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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Happy Friday, everybody. It's Heidigan All not Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still working his trial, trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Work his magic. He's gonna win. I know it.

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing this afternoon?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>I am great. I hope you're the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I am great. It's been a wild week. Lots going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But so much in the news. I went through.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I was singing drop at Kuti twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>literally at a dead stop, and I'm like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, check out what's going on on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 2>Holy moly, there are so many crazy stories out there.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite one for the day, though, is Jared Polis

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<v Speaker 2>getting called out by vives Ramaswami in a positive way, like, Jared,

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<v Speaker 2>you hacked up all those regulations yesterday. We're so proud

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<v Speaker 2>of you. We're doze, you Colorado's doge. And so many

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<v Speaker 2>people just went after it and said, Vivec, please we

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<v Speaker 2>have a gas like governor, that's what I like to

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<v Speaker 2>call him.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has Vivek, poor Vivec. I love Vivek, but he.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't understand how hardcore Jared Pullus has grown bureaucracy in

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<v Speaker 2>this state. You know, we yesterday, I believe her, the

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<v Speaker 2>day before we were called the sixth most regulated state

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<v Speaker 2>in the country, with forty five percent of its regulations

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<v Speaker 2>deemed excessive or duplicative. That's the Colorado Chamber of Commerce.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 6>Ryan Wow? I mean, it's exactly like you said.

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<v Speaker 7>Polus is doing everything for political gain, purpose, thought, malice, aforethought.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not a libertarian.

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<v Speaker 7>Anybody that would say wear a damn mask your selfish

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<v Speaker 7>bastards during COVID is not a libertarian in any way, shape, matter,

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<v Speaker 7>or form.

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<v Speaker 6>Anybody who would take jobs away.

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<v Speaker 7>From healthcare workers who refuse to get the COVID shots

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<v Speaker 7>is not a libertarian in any way. So he can

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<v Speaker 7>continue this ruise, and he might have enough money to

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<v Speaker 7>buy it for a while, but not for the whole race.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think he's going to run for president

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<v Speaker 2>and end up just like Hicke and Looper and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Bennett in the you know, one percent territory or what

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<v Speaker 2>do you foresee happening precisely.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he will follow that to a t. He's

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<v Speaker 7>going to try to find a lane. I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>like a moderate libertarian lane that's not occupied that he

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<v Speaker 7>thinks he can, you know, spend money and flourish in.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the one thing he has, those two that you mentioned, Bennet,

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<v Speaker 7>Hicck and Loper do not is independent wealth. But I

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<v Speaker 7>don't see his campaign for president going any better than

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<v Speaker 7>say Pat schroeders dead back in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not paying much attention to politics back then.

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<v Speaker 2>I was graduating from s NO. I guess i'd been

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<v Speaker 2>out of Boulder for no. That's the year I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>with a Bolder.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was probably in a bit of a haze

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<v Speaker 3>at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not insinuating, but I was doing anything right right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was studying really hard for my final very Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the next craziest thing that happened this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you play clip four?

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<v Speaker 2>The New York City mayor talking about why he's so

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<v Speaker 2>rapidly supporting dealing with illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, if we have five hundred thousand children who had

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<v Speaker 6>We can't find them.

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<v Speaker 8>We don't know if they're doing child labor, we don't

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<v Speaker 8>know if they're doing sex crimes.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't know if they're being exploited.

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<v Speaker 8>Of five hundred thousand children. There's a level of hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 8>that everyone in that states they want to protect everyone

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<v Speaker 8>but innocent individuals or victims of crimes and children. I

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<v Speaker 8>want to suspect, support and protect children and innocent people

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<v Speaker 8>that are victims of crime, and those who don't understand

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<v Speaker 8>that start up to me to try to convince them.

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<v Speaker 8>I know what my job is, my goal is, and

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<v Speaker 8>I was clear of that while running and when I

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<v Speaker 6>Safety means everything to me.

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<v Speaker 8>Five hundred thousand children, we don't know where they are

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<v Speaker 8>right now in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan, How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how people can turn a blind eye

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<v Speaker 3>This is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>And if any there's any reason to close the border

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<v Speaker 2>and tighten up security down there is.

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<v Speaker 6>This not it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's a lot of people on the left

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<v Speaker 7>that are just they're okay with some collateral damage. And

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<v Speaker 7>I say that as somebody who has covered very closely

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<v Speaker 7>the trendy Aragua gang presence in Aurora, and had a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of a dust up with Comrade Kyle about that,

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<v Speaker 7>along with John Fabricatory against nine News Chris van Derveen.

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<v Speaker 7>They're very sensitive about their parenthetical lack of parenthetical coverage

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<v Speaker 7>of that issue.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think there's a lot of the left to go.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there are so many good immigrants here that

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<v Speaker 7>it's okay, we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to take the bad ones.

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<v Speaker 7>And if some children get trafficked, well that's just part

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<v Speaker 7>of the deal too. We just got to have open borders.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't enforce the border. We've got to let people

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<v Speaker 7>in and that it's a net positive. That's the only

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<v Speaker 7>thing I can really pull from this. That is something

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<v Speaker 7>that makes sense from the last perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, if any of our Democrat friends that are

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now want to call in or text in

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<v Speaker 2>and explain to us how you can vote for someone

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<v Speaker 2>who would support not just blowing that thing up, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>where do we find these children?

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<v Speaker 3>How do we stop this?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we protect this the kids that are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we find them get them into good homes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's heartbreaking. To me, and it's it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>should be the first priority if the president, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it is the incoming president, President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>But also I think we're going to have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Really hard time when the media decides that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to highlight every single person that gets deported that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>families together, they're going to try and play that up.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was an interesting a second clip that I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like you to play number two about what Homan can

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<v Speaker 2>do on this front and how to deal with the

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<v Speaker 2>issue of how we hold people accountable for what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>So you will not only go after the illegal migrants,

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<v Speaker 1>you may go after some mayors who aren't helping.

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<v Speaker 6>If they step over that line.

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<v Speaker 9>They just sit back and watch us, which again I

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<v Speaker 9>find incredible. You don't want to take public safety threat

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<v Speaker 9>to your community to help us. But there are laws

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<v Speaker 9>on the books that we will we will prosecute at

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<v Speaker 9>eighteen USC one to eleven, competing a federal law enforced

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<v Speaker 9>officers a felony Title eight and I says called thirteen

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<v Speaker 9>twenty four trum ply if you knowingly can see or

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<v Speaker 9>harbor and the alien from ice that is a felony.

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<v Speaker 9>When I was an agent a long time ago, I've

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<v Speaker 9>arrested US citizens for harboring and alien their holding or

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<v Speaker 9>place on employment. If I can do it to a citizen,

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<v Speaker 9>why can't I do it to a politician who's going

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<v Speaker 9>to actively getting our way preventives from doing our job.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here we go Mike Johnston, Mayor Mike Johnston

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<v Speaker 2>Denver Polist Governor Jared Poulis, who said they would push

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<v Speaker 2>illegal criminal immigrants. And so I wonder how that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to play. Are they really going to go to jail

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<v Speaker 2>on this issue to stand strong on this? Johnston kind

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<v Speaker 2>of alluded to it and then he backed off.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe he makes a political statement by doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the day to day consequences of this, not

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<v Speaker 2>to mention the five hundred thousand children that they can't

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<v Speaker 2>find in this country are living in Denver, Colorado, or

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<v Speaker 2>in Lone Tree, Colorado now where almost every night we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting crime alerts down there. And I think it has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it's the last light rail stop. I

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<v Speaker 2>think crimes are happening more and more in the suburbs,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see it explode.

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<v Speaker 3>If they don't take care of what's happening in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just wonder when the day, like the citizens

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<v Speaker 2>up and say enough and push back on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>People have to stop being quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to talk to their elected officials and hold

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<v Speaker 2>them accountable. And if that means letting Tom Homan come

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<v Speaker 2>in or John Fabricatory, who I hope is going to

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<v Speaker 2>work with the administration and arrest people for protecting these criminals,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's Mayor Johnston or Governor Jared Poulis, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about that? Ryan, do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly happen.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think it'll get to that point.

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<v Speaker 7>And what I'm very confused by is I think Mike

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<v Speaker 7>Johnston has higher aspirations for the governor's office, which I

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<v Speaker 7>get because we're a left leaning state. But for somebody

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<v Speaker 7>like Jared Polis that I think is trying to thread

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<v Speaker 7>a needle here, like with the cost cutting venture that

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<v Speaker 7>drew attention from a vague that he would take the

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<v Speaker 7>wrong side of this, the absolute losing side of this issue.

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<v Speaker 7>It perplexes me because usually, if anything, Polis is a

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<v Speaker 7>very calculated, smart political animal, and that's not a smart move.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree, I agree. So what's driving this?

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<v Speaker 2>Why aren't more politics standing up and speaking out like

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor of New York City. I'm very proud of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He did a great job and he just was relentless.

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<v Speaker 2>He even called out the media and said, you've already

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<v Speaker 2>written your narrative. I know you have, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to take much time up here talking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really wild. All right, well, Ryan, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. We've got so much more to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have Brad Beck and Marla Reichert on later.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad's going to talk to us about messaging and Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>He runs Liberty Toastmasters and Marla used to be the

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<v Speaker 2>chair of the Pueblo County GOP and is doing great

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<v Speaker 2>work down there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Pueblo had a great election.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Heidi Ganaal. I'm filling in for Dan Caples.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to seeing you after the break.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Friday Afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Kaplis, who's at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of his mighty trial. He's been on this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Ryan, you have some news about that.

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<v Speaker 6>He do have some breaking news.

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<v Speaker 7>This shared to me just moments ago by one Dan

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<v Speaker 7>Caples and I try to keep warning people out there.

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<v Speaker 7>If you see Dan Caplis and Campalis law is the

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<v Speaker 7>other name on the docket, then find a way to settle,

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<v Speaker 7>not go to court.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, he says. The good news.

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<v Speaker 7>Is a very wise and hard working jury just returned

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<v Speaker 7>a seven figure verdict in our trial. Very proud to

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<v Speaker 7>say it's my seventh seventh figure verdict in a row.

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<v Speaker 7>God is good that from Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Winning, winning, and more winning.

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<v Speaker 6>You gonna gets tired of winning?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, seven times, seven brides for seven brothers and seven

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, that is not a clip. That's actually right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, okay, number you're good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, I want to talk more about winning. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about winning in Colorado. Okay, how do we win

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you gave it a game effort.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you, yead.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, think about the deck that was stacked against

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<v Speaker 6>How do you encounter that? I don't even know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>and we think there's a couple more, probably to the

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<v Speaker 3>Literally walk out of the office.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Oh, it's fine, it's fine, everything's going to

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<v Speaker 2>at the TV boom. The first ad hits. I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's going to take that though.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what the gun's part, but careful, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>There has to be a belief, Heidi, that we can

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<v Speaker 7>For example, with your race, the national money that might

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<v Speaker 7>It turns out it was very important in the balance

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<v Speaker 7>three seat majority, and there were a couple other races

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<v Speaker 7>that were very very close like his. And what it does,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it provides some kind of boost in the

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<v Speaker 7>perception of Colorado that we can win here, that there

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<v Speaker 7>is a path to victory, and that you get that

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<v Speaker 7>congressional money, those dollars spent here so that Gabe Evans

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<v Speaker 7>or another candidate can compete on a level playing field

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Ryan, and I think in Gabe's case, the

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<v Speaker 2>money did come and it was super helpful, and people

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<v Speaker 2>but to get them to fix it, and our team did.

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<v Speaker 3>A great job of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We also saw an incredible boost and Hispanic voter turnout

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<v Speaker 2>and voting our way, and I think Trump had a

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<v Speaker 2>the working man. I think that was incredibly helpful to

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<v Speaker 2>the CD eight race. Also, we also prevented a super

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<v Speaker 3>That's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in a little while later in the next hour,

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<v Speaker 2>in Pueblo. We had some incredible wins in Pueblo.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, that was the one county. And I've been kind

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<v Speaker 7>of charting this for a while now. Heidi Publo used

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<v Speaker 7>time with the Hispanic population you talk about. But Trump

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<v Speaker 7>won Puebelo County. Now we got to work on the

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<v Speaker 7>and it's a sheer numbers game. You know, where do

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<v Speaker 7>was provided with our good friend Valdemar Archa Letta A

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<v Speaker 7>He had those conversations in Heidi, I think it starts there.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, Ryan, and I have a new

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Colorado's Road Back to Red and we've got

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<v Speaker 2>about fifteen hundred people in the Twitter community and people

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<v Speaker 2>are just yearning for what do I do today, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so we started this thing called fight back in five

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<v Speaker 3>Minutes a day?

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<v Speaker 2>And so a few of the things that I'm recommending

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<v Speaker 2>Beck on after the break to talk about a message

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<v Speaker 2>around this is number one. You've got to find out

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<v Speaker 2>who the Republican precinc leader is. That's the person that

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<v Speaker 3>To kind of get things organized.

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<v Speaker 2>They will have lists of all the voters in your

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<v Speaker 2>So also get to know your county GOP. You may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not agree with them, you may or may

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<v Speaker 2>not want to get involved with them, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>of all of your neighbors that you know are pretty

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<v Speaker 2>like minded, that might be willing to get engaged and

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<v Speaker 2>have a barbecue, have a party, have them over, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Start talking now, don't wait. The other thing

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<v Speaker 3>Just go and sit in the audience. Learn who the

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<v Speaker 2>Go up afterwards and introduce yourself to them so that

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time at the school board meeting last

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<v Speaker 2>week in Douglas County, and it was awesome. She was

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<v Speaker 2>to candidates next year, because I'm calling next year. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a name for next year. School board year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be all about picking some school board races

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<v Speaker 2>and going hardcore after flipping those races. What is that

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<v Speaker 2>going to do. It's going to show us that we

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<v Speaker 2>people how to campaign, how to get engaged, how to activate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to teach candidates what kind of messaging is

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<v Speaker 2>can test some certain things and Ryan in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>This is what up to this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard the Colorado Democrat chair saying that the party

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<v Speaker 2>across the country. So if you can play that clip,

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 5>Bring out celebrities to our rallies. What type of message

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<v Speaker 5>are we sending to the everyday voter about who we

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<v Speaker 5>we have to show up at the places where voters

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<v Speaker 5>not just go on Joe Rogan once every two years,

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<v Speaker 5>but we have to start building a climate where Democrats

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<v Speaker 5>husperus them. Even in places where we might have disagreement,

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<v Speaker 5>I think we have to be able to find common

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<v Speaker 3>So they got the message.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the message about what went wrong in this

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<v Speaker 2>last election, and they are not going to just sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and let Colorado slide even more. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>come roaring back, and we've got to be ready. We've

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<v Speaker 2>in your own neighborhood. There's nobody coming to save the day,

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<v Speaker 2>no new leader, no new chair of the GOP, no

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<v Speaker 2>That's the message for twenty twenty five. All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna come after break with Brad beck a dear friend,

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<v Speaker 2>head of Liberty toastmasters across Colorado where they teach you

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<v Speaker 3>This is Hidi Ganall filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'll

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Tgif everyone, it's gonna be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun weekend ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Heidiganal filling in for Dan Kaplis Ryan. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a crazy week, so much news, lots going on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I want to cover in a

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw that Trump finally addressed it and said,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't identify what they are, shoot them down.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went on to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kind of check out if Elon Musk could wait

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Malougan says, Elon any thoughts on the mass drone

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<v Speaker 2>sidings off the East coast. He says, alien spaceships controlled

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<v Speaker 2>by Iran. Obviously, I was like, oh, he's not serious, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just.

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<v Speaker 6>Kidding, maybe half serious, and they run I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what does that even mean? Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>they know what these things are and they're just not

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<v Speaker 3>telling us.

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<v Speaker 7>I went over that clip that you sent and we

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<v Speaker 7>can play this a little bit later John Kirby with

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<v Speaker 7>Martha McCallum, who was giving him no quarter, by the way,

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<v Speaker 7>and it seems like they genuinely don't know, which I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know which is worse if they knew it, weren't

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<v Speaker 7>telling us, or they're just buffoons who are unaware of

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<v Speaker 7>anything that going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, oh boy, all right, we'll table that for now.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have mister Beck online?

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<v Speaker 2>Oo?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I need to press something? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>Brad?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 4>I am? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great, Brad? Happy Friday. So good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 6>I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to hear what you have to say

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<v Speaker 3>about how to.

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<v Speaker 2>Leverage this moment in time in Colorado with the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>messing so many things up and us having an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>with an incoming president that's just basically got.

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<v Speaker 3>A mandate to do some really cool things.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us every day folks, how to message what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on right now with our neighbors that are still kind

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<v Speaker 2>of grumpy about the election.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would say, the first of all, when you

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<v Speaker 4>talk to the aliens or playing those drones over New

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<v Speaker 4>Jersey and all over the country, when you say take

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<v Speaker 4>us to the take us to your leader, they have

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<v Speaker 4>to go down to mar A Lago.

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<v Speaker 3>Good answer.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have a great show today, ID, And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just like you, I'm an average person who started to

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<v Speaker 4>practice public speaking because my business required it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>started going to toast Masters, and I went through the

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<v Speaker 4>leadership program of the Rockies. In two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 4>graduated and started the Liberty toast Masters, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>little different. We take the traditional structure of a Toastmaster's club,

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<v Speaker 4>but we blend it with the timeless principles of being

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<v Speaker 4>leaders in actions. So we talk about things like personal

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<v Speaker 4>responsibility and individual rights and free markets and limited government,

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<v Speaker 4>all based on our founding documents. One of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that I have found over the years we're fifteen years

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<v Speaker 4>old in Denver and about twelve years in Longmont. Two

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<v Speaker 4>clubs that I go to is that we have fun.

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<v Speaker 4>We practice, we polish, and we try to perfect as

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<v Speaker 4>best as we can, really try to get better at

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<v Speaker 4>excellence rather than perfection. But we always are having the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to try something and fail. And there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 4>with failing in public speaking when you're in a group

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<v Speaker 4>of people who you give you critical feedback. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the keys with Postmasters is that we're always

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<v Speaker 4>giving positive feedback so people perform better.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Brad, you're an incredible sales professional, I mean you're

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<v Speaker 2>in management, etc. But I'm just always so impressed with

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<v Speaker 2>how you're able to talk to the other side and

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<v Speaker 2>get them to see the error of their ways in

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<v Speaker 2>a gentle kind way. So can you give us an

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<v Speaker 2>example of an issue right now that we're facing in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado that you might talk to with your neighbor who's

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<v Speaker 2>leans liberal over the fence one day, and how to

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<v Speaker 2>tackle that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things Heidie I would suggest the

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<v Speaker 4>folks is know your subject. I mean, if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to be a expert or somebody who's informed

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<v Speaker 4>enough to have a topic. But I always start off

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<v Speaker 4>by asking questions when somebody's mentioning something, as you were

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the immigration issue and what President elect Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is talking about doing, you know, I would ask the question, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what are your thoughts about it? Why is that important

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<v Speaker 4>to you? You know, what are you reading? And get

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<v Speaker 4>a sense of where they're at. Because people don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear what you have to say as much as

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<v Speaker 4>they want to be heard, and so often we're too

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<v Speaker 4>busy talking or thinking about talking rather than listening. And

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things we do in Toastmasters is do

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of listening. So you got to know your material,

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<v Speaker 4>You got to practice you got to know your audience,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to realize that people want you to succeed,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in public speaking, because they don't want to go

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<v Speaker 4>and hear somebody grown on. They want to be enlightened,

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<v Speaker 4>informed and really get an opportunity to learn something new.

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<v Speaker 6>And no note of the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Are listening to each other these days. We're talking past

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<v Speaker 4>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you, and you know, social media

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<v Speaker 2>certainly doesn't help with that. But even on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>asking questions and probing and trying to understand people, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is a great approach versus just making statements, fighting back,

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<v Speaker 2>pushing back. I think people are opening up to the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that may they may want to have conversations. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you heard the clip from the Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat chair, but he said we need they need to

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<v Speaker 2>meet voters where they are. They learned some lessons in

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<v Speaker 2>this last election. And I will never give Shad Murop

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<v Speaker 2>any credit for anything, but I mean he's right, and

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<v Speaker 2>if they fix that problem, we're in trouble, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get as many games as we want.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Republicans have done a better job of

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<v Speaker 2>that in the last election and really meeting people where

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<v Speaker 2>they are, whether it's Joe Rogan or a podcast in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, going to different neighborhoods or different popularlytions

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<v Speaker 2>that think differently than us.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when I was at.

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<v Speaker 2>The RNC convention and they had the union leader there,

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<v Speaker 2>that was wild. I mean, it just shook people up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But I think it ended up helping

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<v Speaker 2>in the election to see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. Too many people, I think on our site for

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<v Speaker 4>too long, have been pushing facts and figures. One of

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<v Speaker 4>my mentors, Jeffrey Gittemer, who wrote The Sales Bible and

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<v Speaker 4>the Little Golden Book of Yes attitude, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's a lot of this as attitude. But if it,

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<v Speaker 4>facts and figures are forgotten. But stories are we told,

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<v Speaker 4>and stories that make a point connect at a heart level,

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<v Speaker 4>and they get people emotionally. And you know, there's six

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<v Speaker 4>universal emotions that most cultures have happiness and sadness, anger, surprise, disgust,

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<v Speaker 4>and fear. And if you can tap into one of

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<v Speaker 4>those emotions through a personal experience a story that makes

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<v Speaker 4>a point, you're more likely to connect and have agreement

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<v Speaker 4>with people than argue with them. So I always suggest

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<v Speaker 4>to people what story do you have that can help

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<v Speaker 4>people understand your point of view, and then try to

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<v Speaker 4>connect where they're at as they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point, Brad, and I think that's really

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<v Speaker 2>good advice for all of us is to pick a

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<v Speaker 2>topic that we're really comfortable with, maybe avoid the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not so we don't get tangled up in

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation that isn't effective, and then really think about

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<v Speaker 2>a story about why you're passionate about that issue and

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<v Speaker 2>how to talk about it in a way that relates

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<v Speaker 2>to how you feel to the other person. Listen a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and ask a lot of probing questions. Am I missing something?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Those are all great. And you mentioned earlier Heidi

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<v Speaker 4>about going to town hall meetings, school board meetings. Most

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<v Speaker 4>of the time they give you two to three minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's important to know because if you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>speak in front of an audience and only want to

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<v Speaker 4>make an impact that really gets people to think, you

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<v Speaker 4>have to know your rate of speaking. And one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things I was taught by getting David Brooks, who's

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<v Speaker 4>a world champion of public speaking. He said, read something

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<v Speaker 4>out loud per a minute, and then count the words.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that three times, add up the total and divide

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<v Speaker 4>by three. You'll get your rate of speaking. So on average,

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<v Speaker 4>most men are about one hundred and twenty five words

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<v Speaker 4>per minute. Most women are about one hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>I won't comment on why, but at three minutes, one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty words per minute, you have four hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty words that you can say. And so what

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<v Speaker 4>I would suggest is write out a presentation of speech

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<v Speaker 4>and then edit it down. If you can reveal some

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<v Speaker 4>humor or something insightful, great, but then practice it, and

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<v Speaker 4>then keep practicing. Record yourself on a phone, and the

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<v Speaker 4>next thing you want to do is when you go

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<v Speaker 4>up to the lectern and give your presentation and you're

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<v Speaker 4>within the time, because once you go to three minutes

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<v Speaker 4>and one second, they'll shut you down. You've got to

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<v Speaker 4>know your rate of speaking, and then if your practicing it,

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<v Speaker 4>you're understanding who your audience is. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of times people say, well, you only have two to

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<v Speaker 4>three minutes, it can't be that impactful. And I often

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<v Speaker 4>remind people that the Gettysburg address by Abraham Lincoln was

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<v Speaker 4>about two minutes and maybe fifteen to thirty seconds. How

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<v Speaker 4>packfl was that speech.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild, Brett, you can make a difference. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>a break.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to thank you for coming on and

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<v Speaker 2>giving some great advice on how to get, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get the nerve up to speak at a school board meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>county commissioner meeting, city council meeting. Everybody should try that once.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate all the work you do in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And how can people join Toastmasters Liberty toast Masters.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we have two clubs, one in Denver one and Longmont.

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<v Speaker 4>Longmot meets tomorrow at the Boulder County Republican Office at

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<v Speaker 4>four twenty five South Bowen Street, Sweep one and Longmont.

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<v Speaker 4>But if they go on our website to the public

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<v Speaker 4>downloads on either Denver or Longmont, there's ten tips for

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<v Speaker 4>public speaking. Okay, it's under the unerals bolder. They can

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<v Speaker 4>download that and have some of the things we've been

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<v Speaker 4>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, Brad, Well, thank you. We've got a head

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<v Speaker 2>to break, but Brad, have a great day. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Hidi Ganall filling in for Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dankapless Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Friday everyone, It's Heidi Ganall filling in for Dan Caplis,

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<v Speaker 2>who had a big win in his trial just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations Dan, you rock.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so honored and blessed to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>fill in every once in a while. This is such

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible show and Ryan and Kelly you make this

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<v Speaker 2>job very easy.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm still a newbie, but uh, what are

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<v Speaker 3>you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You helped me along this morning, Ryan, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Colorado Second District Service Awards ceremony up in Boulder

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<v Speaker 2>at See You Boulder and Congressman Janah Goose.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there and he was hosting it.

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<v Speaker 2>And why would I go to this, people might ask, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to live in that district. I used to

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<v Speaker 2>live in Superior, so I know a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jonah Goose actually used to be SeeU Regent. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, Ryan?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I believe I heard that. Mostly because you were

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<v Speaker 7>a CU region at one time.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, yep, So we know each other a little

641
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<v Speaker 2>bit because of that. But very nice guy, beautiful family,

642
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<v Speaker 2>and seems to be very well liked as a congressman

643
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<v Speaker 2>up there, and he's very high up in Democrat leadership

644
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<v Speaker 2>in DC. And it got me thinking about who's going

645
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<v Speaker 2>to be running for governor on that side to take

646
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<v Speaker 2>Jared Poulis's place in twenty six. So we've got n Goose,

647
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<v Speaker 2>who I think would be a very good candidate if

648
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<v Speaker 2>he ran very hard to beat. Got Mike Johnston, who

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's getting beat up a lot, but he's

650
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<v Speaker 2>got some big, big money behind him, with Reid Hoffman,

651
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the LinkedIn guy, Mike Bloomberg that they could transform his

652
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<v Speaker 2>persona I'm sure, and make him look very nice and effective,

653
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<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff. And then we've got Phil Wiser,

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<v Speaker 2>the Attorney General, and I don't know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about that. I think Jared Poulis is

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<v Speaker 2>backing him. If you know differently let me know, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think Phil Wiser wants to run. And of course

658
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<v Speaker 2>Jenna Griswold, Janet Griswold, wants to run for governor.

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<v Speaker 7>Kyle, go back and watch that interview with Comrade Kyle Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>She just Skyle, you just nicked my chance to run

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<v Speaker 2>for governor?

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<v Speaker 6>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Do?

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<v Speaker 6>This'm sighing. It's just it's classic.

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<v Speaker 3>I So, what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about Jonah Goose? Do you know much about him?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think he I think he's a rock star.

668
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 7>I think he's an up and comer, very solid, very polished,

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<v Speaker 7>very young, very sharp.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he's a breath of fresh air. He's a change.

671
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<v Speaker 7>I think he's malleable within the party in the sense

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<v Speaker 7>that he can attract new voters. There are elements like

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<v Speaker 7>you just named Phil.

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<v Speaker 6>I call him.

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<v Speaker 7>Phil Nonethewiser, okay, and he and Mike Johnson are kind

676
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<v Speaker 7>of part of the same old, same old. May to

677
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<v Speaker 7>appeal to a certain aspect of the party, but if

678
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<v Speaker 7>you've got a wide open prime like you're describing there,

679
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<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to take a certain type of

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<v Speaker 7>personality to cut through that, and I think no Goose

681
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 7>has that in spades. I think he's just polished. I

682
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<v Speaker 7>think he's got a tremendous amount of appeal. And Dan

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<v Speaker 7>and I have talked very highly about him in the past,

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<v Speaker 7>and it doesn't surprise me that you share a high

685
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<v Speaker 7>opinion of him as well, at least in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>his political skills.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously I disagree with him vehemently on a lot

688
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<v Speaker 2>of things.

689
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<v Speaker 3>But Nick Goose versus Jennet Griswold.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not a contest. Yeah, that's a joke.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I would hope even if a Democrat's listening

692
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<v Speaker 7>out there, I mean, go ahead and pick Jenna Griswold,

693
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<v Speaker 7>I guess. But if you want to win, which I

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<v Speaker 7>would think would be the ultimate goal, you're not picking her.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, well, and I was really impressed that he selected

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<v Speaker 2>Britta Horn as the Volunteer of the Year award for

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<v Speaker 2>his district.

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<v Speaker 6>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And Britta does amazing work as the fire chief up there,

702
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 2>volunteer fire chief. She's very involved nationally with fireboards, and

703
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<v Speaker 2>she's just very dedicated to her community. I think she

704
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<v Speaker 2>lives in a town of like she took thirty two

705
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<v Speaker 2>and twenty eight of them are.

706
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<v Speaker 3>Have the same last name. I'm like Britta.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't have any broad like cell service up

708
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<v Speaker 2>there either, so you know, that's difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>To fight fires and deal with the issues that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was really cool that Congressman Degoose selected Britta

711
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<v Speaker 2>Horn chief Britta Horn as the Volunteer of the Year

712
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<v Speaker 2>for Colorado second District. I think that's great. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the governor's race. Do you think John Hickenlooper

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<v Speaker 2>is really gonna run again. He does have a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby at home. Doesn't he have a kid like a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago?

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<v Speaker 6>Old for that? Doesn't he? I mean, no offense, but

718
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<v Speaker 6>I mean that's that's pretty wild.

719
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<v Speaker 3>How old is he?

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<v Speaker 6>He's seventy, isn't he something close to that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's in his seventies y, Yeah, so you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, I mean Donald Trump had a kid late in

723
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 7>life too, with Baron that went well.

724
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<v Speaker 6>He's seventy two. John Hickenlooper.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought for a hot minute that maybe Jared Poulis

726
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<v Speaker 2>would try and kick him out and take that Senate

727
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<v Speaker 2>seat just to be relevant for the next couple of

728
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<v Speaker 2>years while he waits to run for president.

729
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<v Speaker 3>But maybe he's just to go right into running for her.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Kickenlooper would maybe serve one more term or

731
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<v Speaker 7>or try to run one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's six years.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we're looking at what twenty thirty two that

734
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<v Speaker 2>Hickenlooper would be done.

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<v Speaker 7>If he wins this next one. And I mean you

736
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<v Speaker 7>look at just the baseline age. Mitch McConnell taking a

737
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<v Speaker 7>spill the other day, Oh my goodness, and he got him,

738
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<v Speaker 7>You got Nancy Pelosi got Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>She broke her hip today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh come on, yeah, no, she fell she was visiting somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in a hospital in Luxembourg or some I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Back comparison, Hickenlooper is a kid compared to them.

743
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<v Speaker 3>What you have to remember she fell in high heels.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well she fell style. She fell with style. Lordie, lordie.

745
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<v Speaker 3>That is wild. That is just wild. So okay, we've

746
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 3>got Bennett up.

747
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 7>Then in twenty wait, Bennett doesn't like Ted Cruz reading

748
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<v Speaker 7>cat in the hat.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was an interesting candidate, like I just

750
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 2>would was off while he was talking, and I mean,

751
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>god bless Joe Day for going up against him. It

752
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>was rough, like we knew Bennett would have a lot

753
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>of money, but he's just so smooth and he talks

754
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>like this in this monotone was with a little bit

755
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<v Speaker 2>of Eastern accent.

756
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<v Speaker 3>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, I at least I agreed with him.

758
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<v Speaker 7>I interviewed him on election night. He came on KOA

759
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 7>and we were we had an accord about ranked choice voting.

760
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 7>We both opposed it and failed, so joining forces Michael

761
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<v Speaker 7>Ben and I one.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm impressed. I think a little bit differently of

763
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<v Speaker 3>you now right.

764
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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, maybe not in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to take a break and come back.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got lots of good stuff to talk about. We're

767
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<v Speaker 2>going to dig into Pueblo too at the five point

768
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<v Speaker 2>thirty five break and talk to Marla Reichert. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>in a few minutes.
