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your support. So the other day, the Mecklinberg County Commissioners

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invited a bunch of the officials from the local judicial

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system to come talk about the impact of Arena's law

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law signed into a bill that was signed into law

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by the Democrat governor Josh Stein. I mean, he waited

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the full ten days to do so, but he signed it.

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And I'm going to get now into the impacts on

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the jail because Mecklinberg County Sheriff Gary not my fault.

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McFadden was lamenting to the commissioners how this is going

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to impact the jail. And it is going to impact

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the jail, no doubt about it. Okay, no doubt about it.

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It's going to impact the court system because they've been

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allowing a lot of people to leave and that has

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kept the jail population lower. And they admit this. They

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have been using a strategy for twenty years. They called

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it a risk based system, which has been another failure.

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They've been using this rather than a charge based system,

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as I mentioned in the last hour. And so their

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model in Mecklimber County is not working. And this is

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the state saying to the local jurisdictions, your model has failed.

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You need to prioritize public safety in a different way,

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and here's how you're going to do it. And the

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local officials are upset because we have all of these

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things that we want to spend the money on and

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now we're not going to be able to because the

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state is telling us to do this stuff and it's

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going to cost us money. And that means we have

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to cut stuff that we value at a higher level.

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And to which I say, that is correct. Yes, this

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is the state forcing you to put a higher prioritization

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on criminal justice. So here is Gary not my fault, McFadden,

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our illustrious but often frustrated sheriff. Ever, the hero or

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the victim right, never his fault or anything. And he

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complained of how he was not even consulted by the

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state legislature when it drafted the law.

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Speaker 2: So most of the people who have spoken, and we

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will also speak, most of these going to be from paper.

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And what I mean they're speaking from an aspect of

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paper and function of the criminal justice system. We're going

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to be functioning twenty four hours a day. It's not

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nine to five to us, and it's not paper, and

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it's not numbers to us. These are going to be

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people lives that we are going to be entrusted with

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even more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, first off, are you telling me that the court

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system doesn't deal with people? The absolute arrogance and hubris

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of this man, like, Oh, it's much harder for us

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we're having to deal with people. Yeah, because because what

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the the cops aren't dealing with people when they're making

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the arrests. No, they don't deal with people, right are

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the judges and the district attorneys and the public defenders?

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They aren't dealing with the very same people they of

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course are. But you know, it's always worse for McFadden.

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He's always got bigger obstacles that he has to overcome,

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always the victim. This victimhood mindset that he's got.

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Speaker 2: The main part is that we're going to be the

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main corporate of all of this in three oh seven.

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And of course it was created because of a stabbing

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on a bus light I mean on a light rail,

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and the law we had no put, no impact, I

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mean no input. We're never invited to a meeting to

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even think about how could this work through our system.

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So we're just coming on the tail end of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably because they don't trust you and they don't

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think you have the same priorities as they do. Right

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the lawmakers and Raleigh, they know what your approach is,

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they know what your priorities are, and they don't agree

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with you. So there's there isn't any reason to include

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you in any of this. That's just a guess. I

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don't know that to be true, but that if I

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had to guess, that would be why.

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Speaker 2: So the current state of the detention center is those

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numbers are going to change. Each time you see fifteen sixty,

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now it is fifteen eighty. We fluctuate every night between

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seventy seventy five people coming in and fifty going out.

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And that's the fluctuation of our detention center. On the

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average of every day, we cannot tell Pineview, Matthew's Midhill

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and anybody else how to not to arrest somebody, so

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they're going to be in and out of the facilit

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a lot of times. We don't understand when we talk

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about logistics, everybody now with detention center does not can

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be housed together. It is by classification, and classification sometimes

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is a very big burden. Also, we're going to talk

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about the jail capacity. When you heard missus Harper say

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functional capacity, we're at eighty five percent functional capacity today,

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but we are ninety nine percent operational capacity. So this

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is why you may see the issue about the word

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stack of bunks. Stack of bunks is where we have

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to put people on these bunk beds and their families

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will call in and say they are sleeping on the floor,

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but they are not actually sleeping on the floor. They're

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actually on what they call a.

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Speaker 1: Stack of bunk. Okay, So I've seen a picture of

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these things. It's basically a plastic cot Okay. It sits

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about six inches off the ground, it's got a mattress

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in it, and then when you're done sleeping, you pick

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it up and you can see. It's not like these

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are bunk beds. Okay, that's so, that's what people complain about.

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My oh, you know, my baby is sleeping on the

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floor in the jail. And they're not sleeping on the floor.

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They're on one of these cots, these plastic formed cots

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with a mattress in it. That's what they're actually sleeping on.

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Because there are capacity issues. Again, there were twenty two

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thousand bookings at the jail last year and that number

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is expected to increase.

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Speaker 2: But we also have to remind you that we are

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still fighting a House Bill three eighteen, which is the

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immigration bill. And so what happens with the immigration bill

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after a judicial official a magistrate has deemed that a

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person has fulfilled all of their obligation to be released

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from the Meccnburg County Detention Center, House Build three eighteen

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now mandates us to hold them an additional forty eight hours.

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So after a signed the release, they will be held

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inside the detention center for an forty eight hours, and

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that is going to cause some cumbersome more problems. We're

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dealing with all these other people that we have to

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have inside and outside, and when we're talking about IBC artists.

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We will be responsible for the transportation as it stands now.

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And additionally, most people do not recognize this, but my

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deputies take care of people back and forth to the

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hospital each and every day because of their medical conditions

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that they have to have treated. So all of that

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is on top of the law and also the immigration

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immigration bill.

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Speaker 1: Right, so what is the forty eight hour hold? Well,

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that's what the state law or the bill because it

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hasn't been hasn't been overridden. The veto that Josh Stein

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did has not been overridden. It would require them to

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hold the illegal aliens for an additional forty eight hours.

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And so he's saying, this is going to be an

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even bigger problem. Correct, Why you guys are artificially deflating

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the capacity numbers by releasing people. Right, if you had

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the space, you would house them, but you don't want

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to house them, You don't have the space, you don't

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want to build more space, so you're keeping the numbers

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low by releasing a lot of people. Right, That's what

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this That's what it sounds like to me. He says,

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they're going to need more personnel, and they're going to

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need more funding and that's not coming from the state,

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so that's going to have to come from Mecklenburg County.

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Correct commissioners then got to ask like one or two

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questions a piece. Mostly they complained about the unfunded mandate

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from the state. What is that additional cost? Well, they

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don't know yet.

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Speaker 2: We cannot tell people not to arrest anyone, but the

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community has to have an input that people don't continuously

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come to jail to be incarcerated. We haven't looked at

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how can we decrease that, and that will decrease my workload,

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that will decrease their workload, and that's definitely to increase

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the courthouse workload. We have to tap into the community.

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How can we be a better community and provide the

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services so people will not continuously come to jail to

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be incarcerated.

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Speaker 1: There you go, that's the philosophy. We don't want them

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to be taken to the jail in the first place.

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That's the philosophy. We have to tap into the community

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with more violence interrupters than such. When you understand the philosophy,

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the outcome makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want there to be people in the jail

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at all. And I'm not saying we should lock up

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innocent people. But I am saying, though, is that if

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people have proven that they cannot behave in a civilized society,

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they cannot follow the general norse forms of a society,

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then they need to be removed from the society. That's

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my philosophy. If you engage in anti social behavior and

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you're hurting other people and taking their stuff, then you

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me jump over and chat with Craig. Hello, Craig, Welcome

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to the show. May be Hey, what's up.

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Speaker 3: I've noticed. I've noticed three things that artificially created problems

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in this country that the Democrats are the ones behind it.

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One is the expansion of fission based nuclear power fuel

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refineries and building new prisons. They seem to always behave

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that prisons are fixed, that there's a fixed number of cells,

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and if we need more, we can't build more. We

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could alleviate all this overcrowding problem if we were to

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just build more prisons, and if we it's a supply demand.

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If we have more criminals, we need more prisons.

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Speaker 1: Right, one would think yeah, one would think that's obvious.

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And I'm reminded of an axiom that I heard recently,

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where we you know how much time could be saved

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if we didn't have to deal with every single argument,

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beginning with Democrats pretending not to understand the issue. It's

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like it is, yeah, like, oh, we don't have enough

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jail space. Okay, why don't we build a jail. I

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don't understand why would we need to build a jail, Like, well,

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because you just said we don't have jail space. But again,

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it's like the fundamental assumption there, as you heard from

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McFadden in that last clip, they don't want more people

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coming to jail. They want a jail population of zero.

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And some of the more radical elements of their base

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they will come out and say that this is the

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decarceration movement right. They don't believe there should be any

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jails at all, which.

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Speaker 3: Is bizarre, Yes, very bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Craig, I appreciate the call, buddy, thank you. Email

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from Bill he said I was attending Oh wait, this

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is sorry a subject line to add to caller Jeff's

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prior comments about prioritization and where's all the money going.

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I attended the Panthers game yesterday. Great game, by the way,

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Carolina Panthers. I was awe struck at the amount of

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advertising that Blue Cross Blue Shield was spending, including warm

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beanie hats for all of those in attendance. Yet we

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wonder why insurance rates costs so much, insurance healthcare the

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pharmaceutical company should be outlawed to advertise. Yeah, it does

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make you wonder when you see that kind of because

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I mean, what's a beanie cost? What even if it's

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two bucks? How many people were in the stands there?

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It's capacity seventy thousand? Like that adds up, you know,

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not that I think there were seventy thousand people there.

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They may have been. Was it sold out? I don't

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even know. Yeah, all right, I got time for this clip.

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Let me do this. This is not my fault. McFadden,

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our sheriff, lamenting that there is no additional funding provided

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in the law.

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Speaker 2: If you go back, if you go back to the

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forty eight hour whole rule for the House Bill three

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eighteen for ice to hold and undocument a presumably undocumented

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immigrant for an additional forty eight hours at the cost

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to the Mecklenburg taxpayers at three hundred and ninety eight

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dollars per hole. That cost is on you now. So

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we're not looking to get a cost when you're talking

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about numbers. When this law was mentioned, only mentioned, our

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population went up one hundred and eighteen at just the

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mention of it went up one hundred and eighteen, and

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it was the highest that it has ever been as

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me being sheriff at sixteen oh nine. That's one six

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hundred and nine people in housing side of detention center.

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So that's just the mention of it that caused that increase.

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Speaker 1: I belive it.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what he's trying to get at there.

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Just make whatever assertion you're trying to make. I don't understand.

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Why was that from the hold? Was that from the

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immigration bill? Was that from Marina's law?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Wow, miss lawyer? Oh my god, Laura.

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Speaker 4: Mike, thank you, thank you very much. That was my

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big question was being an unfunded mandate. I just really

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want the public to understand and I just want this

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to be honed in on that we're being forced to

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do all this without money from the state.

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Speaker 1: Correct correct, Yes, okay.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm assuming that in our as the budget

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cycle starts, this is going to be something that we're

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going to be seeing. We're going to be seeing your

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request rise a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Correct, correct, Okay, I just want to make I want

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to mind you. Of course, today we're discussing this house

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build legislation and the fiscal impact. You're kind of shifting

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to the fiscal discussion, but be mindful that you're going

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to have other competing needs as well, Yes, to support

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your priorities also, So I just want to manage your

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expectations and be mindful of that as you provide feedback

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and direction and guidance that this is just one piece

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of the larger pie as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, again, this is the state legislatu. You're telling you

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you have not adequately prioritized this element of your responsibility

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public safety, right, you have put other things above this

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on a prioritization scale. And that means yes, I means

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you're going to have to make some cuts to these

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other priorities. Or here's my prediction. They're going to blame

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the state and they're going to raise everyone's taxes and

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they're going to say, not our fault. Vote out the

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Republicans in Raleigh. And I say this because that's what

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every single local government body that's controlled by Democrats have

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done over the last fourteen years when they fail to

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prioritize the number one priority that they're supposed to be funding,

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and they fail to prioritize it, they then blame the

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Republicans in Raleigh for why they have to raise your

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I would like to welcome back to the program now

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Don Brown. He is running for US Senate here in

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North Carolina in the Republican primary. He's a former Navy

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jag officer, special assistant US Attorney also, when he's not

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doing all of the lawyer stuff, a national best selling author.

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To boot, Hey, Don, how are you, Pete?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for that. I'm doing well. You're too kind. As

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a matter of fact, I'm standing in the long line

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of the border elections in Raleigh and step down the

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line just to talk to you, because you're doing special.

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Even if I got to go back to the end

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of the line, it's good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Oh my gosh, we could

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have booked this at a different time.

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Speaker 5: Done. You know?

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Speaker 6: We love BT. I've been a BT fan all my

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life when I used to listen to the Tar Heels

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one hundred years ago, what he Durham?

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you two p well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I missed this opportunity, you bet.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that you're running for

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US Senate. But in order to run for that federal office,

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everybody's got to go to Raleigh to file.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you've got the federal officers, in other words,

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congressional candidates. The judicial candidates are here. I see Judge

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mczeenie here and some others and and uh, North Countine

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Legislature believes here too. So we've got quite a quite

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a long line here on the very first day. But

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we just wanted to get it out of the way

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and continue to move on after this, so we just

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came on up and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, alrighty, So, oh, did you see Roy Cooper, or

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as I call him, my good friend Ray.

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Speaker 6: I've not seeing Governor Corn cob yet, but I don't

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know that he's here. But if he's here, I'll call

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I'll call it in, I'll take a picture, I'll let

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you know. P all right, I'll have a scoop on

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them before we out.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, I appreciate that. Okay, So let's talk

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about today. The Arena's law was passed by the North

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Carolina General Assembly and it took him all the ten days,

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but the governor, Josh Stein, Democrats, signed it into law.

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It takes effect today. A couple of days ago, county

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commissioners had this big meeting with judicial officials talking about

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the impact of this law on all of their operations,

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and they're they're decrying the unfunded mandate from the state

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and how it's going to impact all of them at

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the local level. So I guess what's your what is

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your response to this, you know, to this this complaint

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that the state is now making the local jurisdiction bear

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the cost of implementing these tougher on crime policies.

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Speaker 6: Oh look, you have a Democrat Order of Commissions in

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Meckenburg County and a Democrat sheriff wanting because they don't

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have to sufficient facilities when they could have taken ice

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detainers and turned them over to ice and considerably loosen

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the load and have created the problem themselves to a

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large degree by their approach toward you know, soft on crime,

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approach toward immigration. So I don't really have a lot

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of sympathy for what they are saying. We do have

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to Arena's laws a step in the right direction, as

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you know and your your listeners know, is designed to

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stop or at least slow down this revolving door policy

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of letting out you know, violent offenders, designed to end

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cash this bail and ending cash us bail is a

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positive step. How can the Democrats complain about that? And

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it's also designed to force mental evaluations for folks that

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tend to be just just you know, either mentally ill

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to the point they can't function. But it's it's designed

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to to address that issue as well. But we got

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to go farther and we have to pee. We've got

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to understand, we've got to have long term psychiatric facilities

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to hold folks because the criminal justice system principal goal

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must be to protect people on the street. And there

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are some people that you can't try it. You can't

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try them, you can't put them back on the street.

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So both the federal and state governments are eventually going

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to have to come together. We close down Dorothea Dickt's hospital,

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we're going to have to reopen hospitals like that and

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get to work on that roller sleeves up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and that's going to require obviously funding as well.

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That would I would argue that would be a state

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funding issue, and it would be a federal funding issue. Sure,

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but how do you build the consensus to get that

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stuff funded? Even though I think now there is there

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may be a window of opportunity here for Democrats because

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of their rhetoric against like Arena's law, saying that we

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need to focus on mental health. Well, okay, the involuntary

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commitment portion of the law doesn't take effect until next year,

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So why not use this as an opportunity to build

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some bipartisan coalition.

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Speaker 6: Right? You got to have long term syscast facilities for

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folks who cannot be tried. If this guy that killed

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Areena had been a long term psychiatic facility, she might

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be alive. But look, here's the thing. We're gonna have

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to prioritize short term how we're spending money. I was

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in Durham the other night and spoke with the Democrat

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candidate from mayor there, and they have this thing called

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the Heart program where they put a shriek in the

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car with with with police officers and other words. They're putting,

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you know, counselors in the car with police officers, paying

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them a salary. Cut that salary and use it to

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fund these more urgent criminal justice matters designed to protect people.

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So the Democrats can whine, we're gonna have to cut

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a lot out of the budget is designed for social

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fluff and all that kind of stuff in order to

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make you know, to make the dollars available for it.

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It's going to be a matter of prioritizing to put

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public safety first and not a bunch of this woke

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mumbo jumbo to the governments are funding right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think this is this is the problem

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is that they, you know, Michlmure County has been running

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a model for about two decades now. Yeah, and they

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called it a risk based system and it's now flipped

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to a charge based system. And in my understanding of

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listening to this presentation the other day, that just tells

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me that the Mecklenburg model has failed. And that the

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locals have not been prioritizing, you know, the construction of

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another jail. They do not want to build. Democrats do

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not want to build another jail, despite the fact that

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we've got this massive population growth, and they think that well,

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with all of the people coming here that were not

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going to be like having you know, new criminals move

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into of course we will.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, Pete Aftra Arena was murdered. Our

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campaign was the only US Senate campaign to call for

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President Trump to see the National Guardian. About two weeks

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after that, the Charlotte Police union paternal part of a

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police lodge gone also call for the National Guardian. I

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talked to the president of that of that lodge, and

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he was telling me that Charlotte has fewer police officers

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today than in twenty eighteen with a population of sixty

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thousand more so that there's a strang on law enforcements

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and these fluff programs that have failed. We got to

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cut the money for that and spend that money on

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housing for people that need to be off the street.

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You know, not every person who is who last capacity

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to stand trial is dangerous, Pete, but some are, and

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those folks You can't just bring them in and bring

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them out because they don't have capacity. You got to

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find a place for That's why long term criminal psychiatric

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facilities are what we're gonna have to look at. But

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for the short term, we got to cut this fluff stuff.

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It is that the Democrats want to keep funding, but

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they don't want to send spend any more money on

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housing dangerous people.

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Speaker 1: Would you consider would you consider fluff spending to include

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the recording studio that Sheriff Gary not my fault McFadden

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built at the jail. Is that fluff there?

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Speaker 6: You go, I just throw you a little softball, Pete,

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and you knock it out of the ballpark with a

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basically load of don't you brother?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's an easy one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the type of thing we know. We really

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need a doge at the local level to go into

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this county and city government and just cut the crap spending.

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Just like you you describe. We we can loosen up

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the money to enforce this law, but the Democrats don't

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want to talk about that. The don't want to talk

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about all the junk they're spending money on and all

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the all these fluff programs and all these woke programs

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that do nothing other than sap money from me and

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you and all the other hardworking citizens of the area.

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Speaker 1: Don Brown, he is a candidate for US Senate here

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in North Carolina and the Republican primary. And Don, thanks

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so much for your time. I feel terrible that you

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got out of line, So go get back in line

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and go go file to run, sir.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it.

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Speaker 6: Pete, my best, all my friends at BT talk to

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you soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, see him? That is all right. That's

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Don Brown. By the way, you can get more information

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on Don at his website, Don Brown four NC, and

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that's spelled out fo R Don brownfoenc dot com. All right,

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if you're listening to this show, you know I try

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to keep up with all sorts of current events, and

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I know you do too. And you've probably heard me

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say get your news from multiple sources. Why. Well, because

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature

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the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground, dot news

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only helps my podcast, but it also supports ground News

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. From a

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Twitter message, Russ says, Sheriff Gary, not my fault. Mcfatten

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makes it sound like one hundred and eighteen folks suddenly

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decided to get arrested and they heard about the law,

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rather than framing it as one hundred eighteen people who

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would have been released who probably shouldn't be. Also, I

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am so weary of government neglecting core responsibilities for shiny

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new things and feel good stuff and then squeezing us

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from more taxes to cover the basics. Right, And that's

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how you end up with the pattern of conservatives and

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Republicans moving out of urban areas as it becomes more

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and more urban. Right as the city grows and gets

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built up, people who and they prefer lower taxes and

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focusing government spending on core services. They leave because they

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see that the core services are not being funded and

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their taxes keep going up to pay for stuff that

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they didn't want. And then you have people who move

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in because they want to take advantage of all of

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the government services that are being paid for via tax

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dollars off of the businesses that conservatives built. It's a cycle.

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But let me talk about the budget real quick. Because

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County Commissioner Lee Altman, she said she mentioned state funding

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of the criminal justice system. I don't know where she

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got this data point from. You're going to hear her

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mention it, but she talks about state funding of criminal

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justice in order to pivot to more mental health funding.

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Speaker 7: Our first duty the state, federal government, local government is

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public safety. That is our first obligation. And yet I

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was just confirming the statistic. My understanding is the state

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of North Carolina has allocated a paltry two point eight

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percent of the state budget to the criminal justice system.

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And you know, Sheriff McFadden said, you know, how do

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we decrease workload? How do we prevent people from continuously

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coming to the jail? And we know that a huge

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part of the jail population have mental health issues, and

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so this is really something that we need to think

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about on a bipartisan basis. We want to be safe

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all of us, and we need to do that by

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having the resources to prevent tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know what she's talking about. Two

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point eight percent for the criminal justice system. The criminal

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justice system actually makes a lot of money. It does.

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It makes a lot of money with fines and court

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costs and all of that stuff. But I'm look, you

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want to increase funding for criminal justice. Sure, but let's

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look at the numbers. North Carolina's budget total two point sorry,

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twenty seven point nine billion dollars almost thirty billion dollars

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okay per year. Education takes up like fifty nine percent

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of that, Health and Human services takes up another twenty

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four percent, and then coming in third at twelve and

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a half percent, Justice and public safety three point five

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billion dollars, okay, twelve point four percent. Let's take a

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look now at the Mecklenburg County budget. Mecklenburg's total budget

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two point five billion dollars. You know what they fund

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more than Justice in public safety? Parks and rec. The

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Justice in public safety budget in Mecklenburg County is two

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hundred and eight million dollars or eight point three percent

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of the total budget. Okay, two oh eight. Parks and

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rec gets two Sorry, parks and rec gets two hundred

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and seventeen million, So almost nine million more goes to

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parks and rec than Justice in public safety. So who's

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actually prioritizing more? Right? Also funded to a higher level

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government facilities at three hundred and sixty million, health and

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human services four hundred nine million, and education at one

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billion dollars. A billion dollars a year. Mecklenberg County funds

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for education to wait for justice in public safety? And

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what did she just say at the beginning of that clip,

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Let me rerack it. We'll take a listen. What is

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it again?

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Speaker 7: Our first duty the state, federal government, local government is

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public safety.

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Speaker 1: Your first duty is public safety, but your number one

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priority is education number two, Health and human services number three,

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government facilities number four, Parks and rec and number five

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public safety, which is weird if that's your number one duty. Now,

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I'm not advocating we spend a billion dollars on justice

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in public safety. That's probably not necessary. But to make

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the argument somehow that the state is the reason why

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you have the public safety system that you have in

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Meclimber County, that's not true. It's just not true. Once again,

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local governments are administrative units of the state, and what

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the state is telling you here is that your priorities

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are not currently and have not been, in line with

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what the state legislature is prioritizing. They want the state

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lawmakers want the locals to increase the prioritization of public

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safety because you have obviously proven that you don't want to.

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That's why you haven't built another jail. You don't want to, right,

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That's it. If you wanted to build another jail, you

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would have built another jail by now. But you don't

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want to build another jail, hence you haven't. In fact,

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you closed one jail north.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You don't want these facilities because your incentives in the

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Democrat primaries and to win the general races in Mecklimber

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County as a Democrat is to appease this not small

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part of your base that does not want any incarceration.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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