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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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<v Speaker 1>on with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Lyle today. Lyle's an

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<v Speaker 1>individual that reached out to me after hearing one of

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<v Speaker 1>my Malala Area episodes from Oregon, and he said, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got some things to share about the Malala Colton, Estacada area,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I've been waiting to talk to Lyle for

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<v Speaker 1>quite a while. But no no rhyming intended, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>But Lyle, welcome to the show. How's it going man?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Great, How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Having having a good day. We're kind of going through

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<v Speaker 1>some snow, but I think you guys are out there too,

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<v Speaker 1>at least a little further south and the will lam it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, we just recently had a snowstorm where

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<v Speaker 2>it's still on the ground as we speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmm. Same here, Lyle. I think from what you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to talk about today. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go ahead and you know, hand things right

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<v Speaker 1>over to you. You know, feel free to take us

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<v Speaker 1>back as far as we need to go to when

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<v Speaker 1>this experience has started happening for you, and yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to go right ahead, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, thank you. So I'm going to start out with

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<v Speaker 2>back when the first encounter happened and kind of leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to that. I was raised grown up in central Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>Tumblow to be exact, went to Redmond High School. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a handful of buddies that we did nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>hunting fish growing up. That's all I ever did was

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<v Speaker 2>hunting fish, and we always liked to go in these

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<v Speaker 2>spots that was super hard to get to. We discovered

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<v Speaker 2>early on in our little hunting career that the farther

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<v Speaker 2>away you got from people. That's where the bigger animals

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<v Speaker 2>like to hang out, bucks, bulls. When I say buck, deer,

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<v Speaker 2>and elk. This was over. We'd we'd been hunting deer

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<v Speaker 2>for I don't know, probably five years, four or five

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<v Speaker 2>years together, and we discovered an area. This back This

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<v Speaker 2>is back in the i'd say the late eighties. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like sixteen years old, and we discovered an area

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<v Speaker 2>on the maps. We didn't have digital this on X

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and GPS's and all that. Of course we were young.

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<v Speaker 2>We couldn't afford a lot of that fancier stuff. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>we discovered a spot on the map. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>south of Sisters and it was the Three Creeks Wilderness area.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a Three Creeks campground and I think it set

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<v Speaker 2>Three Creeks Reservoir or lake. There was one road that

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<v Speaker 2>back then, there was one road that and it was

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<v Speaker 2>the only road that went out into the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>this wilderness area. It went about two miles out in

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<v Speaker 2>which I say the middle. It was still there was

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<v Speaker 2>still a lot of wilderness out beyond that. So we

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<v Speaker 2>decided we were going to go up and scout it

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<v Speaker 2>just before hunting seasons. So we it was me and

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<v Speaker 2>two other buddies. I did not talk to them before this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to try not to say their names

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know if they want me to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about them on this. But we went up

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<v Speaker 2>and we were we decided we were going to scout

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<v Speaker 2>this area see if it was someplace we'd want to

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<v Speaker 2>want to hunt. Well, this road went out into this

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<v Speaker 2>wilderness area, like I was saying, and at the very

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<v Speaker 2>end of it, it dead ended, and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>more or less like a cul de sac. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably the best way to explain it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just a big round area where the road ended and

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<v Speaker 2>it was cleared out. It was flat, and this place

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<v Speaker 2>was super thick with the jack pines. It was jackpine

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<v Speaker 2>thicket all the way around this area. So we got out,

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<v Speaker 2>and just to make things a little simple, ME just

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<v Speaker 2>say the three of us, we decided we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>split up, and I told one of my buddies, said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>will you go directly north from here and scout. My

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<v Speaker 2>other buddy said, you go south, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go straight east, So west would have been the exit

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<v Speaker 2>out of there. So we all split up, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had walked maybe only one hundred, one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>yards into this jack pine thicket, and I heard the

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<v Speaker 2>distinct sound of a deer bounding, and I was stopped

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute and I was listening, and it sally

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<v Speaker 2>goes getting closer and closer to me. So I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hurried up and got into a spot where I

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<v Speaker 2>could see because it was so thick, and here come

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<v Speaker 2>this dough running right at me. Her tongue was hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell she'd been running, something had been running

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<v Speaker 2>her and basically almost ran me over. She could care

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<v Speaker 2>less that I was even there. I was like thinking

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<v Speaker 2>in my head, I was like, huh, that's crazy. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good sign. We're seeing deer. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>kinda I think I walked maybe another hundred maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty yards, and I started hearing this talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what the heck, how did those

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<v Speaker 2>two thinking My two buddies was out in front of

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<v Speaker 2>me talking, and which made sense to me that it

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<v Speaker 2>was then, because okay, they spooked the deer and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what had that deer coming towards me. Well, as I

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<v Speaker 2>got a little bit closer, I could tell that it

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<v Speaker 2>was they were talking pretty loud, but I couldn't understand

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<v Speaker 2>what they were saying. And I was like, then, ding dongs,

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck are they doing? They're scaring everything away.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out here to scout, dear, not scare them away.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I continued walking closer and closer to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and as I got closer, I could tell. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a normal talk. It's like it sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like Chinese, like a foreign language. And there was two

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<v Speaker 2>distinct smaller sounding like almost sounded like kids talking, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there was occasionally this this deeper voice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying. I was just baffled, Like, what in the

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<v Speaker 2>heck I thought? I thought for sure still it was

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, because I knew that there was only one

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<v Speaker 2>road in there. We were several miles in and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no other way for anybody to get in there

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<v Speaker 2>other than hiking from you know, miles and miles and

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<v Speaker 2>miles away. So as I got closer, I whistled and

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<v Speaker 2>just to get their attention. Well, they whistled back, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it went silent. And I was only at this

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<v Speaker 2>time about only about fifty seventy five yards away, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was so thick I couldn't see, so I decided

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to go over there and see who

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<v Speaker 2>it was. If it was somebody, you know, another hiker

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, then I would ask them how

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<v Speaker 2>the heck they got all the way in there. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>As I proceeded closer to them, I got to where

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they should have been, and there was nobody there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I whistled again, and they whistled back, but this

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<v Speaker 2>time they were like down to basically it be to

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<v Speaker 2>the south of me, and then they started talking again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's weird. I know they were

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<v Speaker 2>standing right here, they had to have been, So I turned,

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<v Speaker 2>I start walking back down towards them. I get to

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<v Speaker 2>where I think they should be and they're not there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I whistle again. No response. So I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>those two yardbirds are messing with me. They're screwing with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I continued on scouting throughout the morning, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we finally got I finally got back to the truck

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<v Speaker 2>and met up with those two and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very funny, you ding dongs. You guys were screwing

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<v Speaker 2>it and they're they were looking at me like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? And I was like, what night

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<v Speaker 2>you guys it was being idiots back in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, no, you don't know nothing about it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of blew that off, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it had to been somebody talking, you know, some other

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<v Speaker 2>hikers or something like that. So we went out this.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so this was that was probably two weeks before

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<v Speaker 2>season opened, so so that would have been in late September.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing. I can't remember what the dates the deer

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<v Speaker 2>season opened back then. So deer season rolls around. We

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<v Speaker 2>decided we're gonna hunt that. So we show up, We

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<v Speaker 2>drive down that same road, only we're the only rig

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<v Speaker 2>down there. We do the same exact plan, except back

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<v Speaker 2>in this wilderness area there's a big i'd say probably

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<v Speaker 2>two three miles back in there, there was a big

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<v Speaker 2>rock bluff and it was noticeable. You could see it

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<v Speaker 2>from oh if you were on your way in, you

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<v Speaker 2>could look way out and see it, but you could

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<v Speaker 2>see it on the map. We decided we're gonna hunt

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, separate, split up, do the same thing we did,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to meet out that rock at that

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<v Speaker 2>rock cliff, you know, late morning, and then we'll figure

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<v Speaker 2>out if we want to go any farther. So I

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<v Speaker 2>take my same path if I did two weeks prior

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<v Speaker 2>to that, and I get probably half a mile in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I jumped a giant buck This thing was huge

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<v Speaker 2>and it stopped perfect for me, and I ended up

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<v Speaker 2>shooting it. It was actually the biggest bucket to this

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<v Speaker 2>date I've ever shot. So I walk up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just pumped as all get out, shooting and hollering,

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<v Speaker 2>making all kinds of noise, and so I start gutting it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it all gutted up, and I think, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well they heard my shot. My two buddies heard my shot.

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<v Speaker 2>They should be. I would have thought they would have

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<v Speaker 2>already been there by the time I got it gutted

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<v Speaker 2>and I got it all done, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they hadn't showed up. So I was like, well they

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<v Speaker 2>might not I heard me. They might be, or they

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<v Speaker 2>might be chasing deer as well. So I told myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm going to walk to that rock

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll meet him there and then they can help

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<v Speaker 2>me pack it out. So I start walking. I get

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<v Speaker 2>the deer all gutted, cleaned out. I rolled it over

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<v Speaker 2>to where its belly was down. So then the blood

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<v Speaker 2>ran out and I start walking towards that rock, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get probably three four hundred yards away from my

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<v Speaker 2>deer towards that rock, and I hear somebody talking back

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<v Speaker 2>to where my deer was, and I was like, oh, sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my two buddies. They they're talking. They're there, They're

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<v Speaker 2>there at the deer. They found found it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>turn around, I start hauling, but back to my deer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all pumped excited to, you know, share what i'd

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<v Speaker 2>got with those guys. Well, I get back down to

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<v Speaker 2>where my deer was or it was, and my deer

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<v Speaker 2>was gone, and even the guts were gone. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that was left was just the blood that had

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<v Speaker 2>drained out the out of the cavity. At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>I was ticked, and that talking sounded exactly like what

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<v Speaker 2>I'd heard two weeks prior to that. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>starting to look around, like somebody freaking stole my deer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started looking around and I find these footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was only one single footprint. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>the ground over there is kind of like Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's almost like a baby powder. You step

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. It just kind of folds back in on itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just assumed that somebody had taken my deer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start tracking it and I cannot catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with this thing, and I'm not Actually, it is pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 2>The footprints were pretty clear, and it was going deeper

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<v Speaker 2>into the wilderness area, not towards the road. So I

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<v Speaker 2>tracked it for a while, and then I was starting

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<v Speaker 2>might be pretty stupid me doing this by myself, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was the biggest buck in my life

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and I was going to shoot whoever

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<v Speaker 2>it for a while and I finally said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>were like, yeah, we heard you shoot, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly where it was. It was just one shot.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go back down to where it was and

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<v Speaker 2>we start from the beginning. They seeing the blood, they knew,

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<v Speaker 2>and I showed him the track. We start tracking it

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<v Speaker 2>and we tracked this thing for probably a mile mile

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<v Speaker 2>and a half and then all of a sudden there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing. Well, at the time, it didn't dawn on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for society would be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>This buck was huge. I mean this thing there was

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<v Speaker 2>it would have taken all three of us, so we

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<v Speaker 2>would have to cut it up and pack it out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. There was no dragon it, I mean this

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<v Speaker 2>thing was body wise, it was huge. But it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>dawn on me at the time that there was just footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>no drag barks, So we were I was kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>at the world. There was nothing I could do. We

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<v Speaker 2>tracked as far as we could and then we lost

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks. Couldn't figure out what direction it went, but

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<v Speaker 2>it did go farther out into the wilderness area. So

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up giving up on it and we went

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<v Speaker 2>back and we hunted the rest of that season. There

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<v Speaker 2>never did see anything else, never got any shots at anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So deer season ends. This would have been probably late October.

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<v Speaker 2>We decide we're going to go on a grouse hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>So we loaded up our shotguns and this time there

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<v Speaker 2>was four of us for me and three other buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>We decide we're going to go that same area and

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<v Speaker 2>camp there. There was a lot of ground, There was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of grouse down that road, that one road

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<v Speaker 2>that went two miles back into that wilderness area. So

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<v Speaker 2>we decided we were going to camp there and grouse

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<v Speaker 2>hunt in that same area. So we loaded up all

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<v Speaker 2>over camp and gear. We go. We go up there,

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<v Speaker 2>we set camp up, and this was on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. So we set camp up and we get

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<v Speaker 2>everything all set up, and it was it was towards

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<v Speaker 2>the evening went by the time we got there. We

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<v Speaker 2>get a big old bombfire going in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>that cul de sac area at the end of that road,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're sitting there just bs and having a good time,

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<v Speaker 2>just enjoying, enjoy being out there, and it got to

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<v Speaker 2>be dark and around ten o'clock I believe, we all

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<v Speaker 2>decided we were going to go to bed, and we

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<v Speaker 2>set up two tents. Each tent was like a little

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<v Speaker 2>two man, two man tent, and so there was two

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<v Speaker 2>of us in one and two of us in the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go to bed and we're laying there and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about ready to go to sleep, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, we hear this big like log snap right

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<v Speaker 2>behind the tents. And at that point I'm thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an elk or deer. Well, next thing, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger log snap, and it was getting closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the tent, and so I nudged my buddy next to

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<v Speaker 2>me and it's like, you hear that, And he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hear that. I go you think it's an elk

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<v Speaker 2>or something. It sounded big. He's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds pretty being big to me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck that is. And it starts getting close

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<v Speaker 2>certain closer, and these footfalls were, I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell it was giant. This thing was. You could almost

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<v Speaker 2>feel it in the ground. Of course, over there back

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<v Speaker 2>in that volcanic area. It's kind of weird that the

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<v Speaker 2>acoustics are different. You can hear foot footfall from a

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<v Speaker 2>ways away, you know, when the deer run, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear them really, well, well, this thing keeps getting

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<v Speaker 2>closer and closer. And as it's getting closer, we could

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<v Speaker 2>tell that it was bipedal. It wasn't it wasn't a deer,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't an elk, And I yelled. My buddy's in

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<v Speaker 2>the tent next to us, I go, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 2>hear that. They're like, yeah, what is that? And we're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it it is freaking huge, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And it gets to where I'm guessing it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably fifty yards behind the tents, and we start playing

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<v Speaker 2>the card where hey, we got guns, We're gonna shoot

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<v Speaker 2>you if you keep coming, you know, making all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of noise, and it just proceeded to take each step

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<v Speaker 2>it would take it, you know, it would get closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer and closer, and all of our shotguns, all

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<v Speaker 2>of our weapons are in the vehicles. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>anything in the tents as far as weapons go. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're all freaking out because whatever this is is not

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<v Speaker 2>backing away with our human voices yelling at it and

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<v Speaker 2>telling them that we have guns, and all we were

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<v Speaker 2>in is these little two man tents that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anything could easily get through. So we all are sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there talking, trying to figure out what the hell we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to do, and who was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the first one out of the tent to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the rig to get a gun. So it gets to

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<v Speaker 2>be where we're thinking, it's got to be only like

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<v Speaker 2>ten feet behind the tent, and I finally I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take it. I was freaking out. I was scared to

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<v Speaker 2>death because it sounded like a dinosaur coming at us.

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<v Speaker 2>So we ends up the tent and I go run

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<v Speaker 2>and then we As I go running out the tent,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that my other two buddies and the other

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<v Speaker 2>tent they're running to their rigs. And we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the rigs and we open the door, we grab the

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<v Speaker 2>shotguns out, and we're sitting there turning and looking in

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<v Speaker 2>the direction behind the tents and with the fire is

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<v Speaker 2>still going. So I don't know if you've ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>where when you got a fire going in a really

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<v Speaker 2>thick spot, it lights up everything. You can just see

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<v Speaker 2>the surface part of the trees it does. The light

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really penetrate back into the trees hardly at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're sitting there yelling at it, saying we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>shoot you. We're gonna we're gonna shoot you. We got guns,

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<v Speaker 2>we got lots of AMMO, trying to scare whatever this

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<v Speaker 2>thing is. And I don't know if you've ever I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you have watched Jurassic Park where that trannosaurce Rex

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<v Speaker 2>when all the guys are like looking at the trees

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<v Speaker 2>and that thing's like, you know, just crept. Every step

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<v Speaker 2>is louder and louder, and the trees are moving. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it sounded like. It just kept getting closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer. It's like, man, nothing should be like cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is should be coming out of those trees

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<v Speaker 2>at any second. And finally we had had enough, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was the first one, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>started pumping shotgun shells into the I mean shooting, the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the gun and the trees at that noise, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a split second later all three other

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<v Speaker 2>buddies started shooting, and we were just like basically logging

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<v Speaker 2>these jackpines that were all around us in the direction

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<v Speaker 2>that sound was. Well, we stopped and we said we're

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<v Speaker 2>not fooling around. We're going to keep shooting, and it

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<v Speaker 2>still continued to walk and stayed just out of the

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<v Speaker 2>light in those trees, and it was walking all the

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<v Speaker 2>way around this circular pulled the sack area around us.

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<v Speaker 2>We were standing by the fire by our trucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you I don't to this day, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many shotgun shells we went through, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there was like we had empty boxes of

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<v Speaker 2>shotgun shells all over the place out there. We were

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<v Speaker 2>just unloading and this thing just continued to harass us.

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<v Speaker 2>It stayed just inside the trees all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're like, this is not human. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>an animal. If it was an animal, it would have ran.

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<v Speaker 2>If it would have been a human, it would have

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<v Speaker 2>came out and said, whoa, whoa, boa, it's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>We're playing a prank on you. And so we we

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<v Speaker 2>decided we're gonna let's get out of here. So we

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<v Speaker 2>turned on the rigs and I told one of my

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<v Speaker 2>buddies that was driving, I said, swing your truck around

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<v Speaker 2>and shine your headlights, see if we can like look

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<v Speaker 2>out into the trees a little bit and see if

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<v Speaker 2>we can see what this is. And so he was

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of slowly going in reverse in a circle,

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<v Speaker 2>shining his headlights around this this round the circular area.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't see anything at all. Well, just as we

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<v Speaker 2>were coming around in full circle and started to head

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<v Speaker 2>out the direction the way we had to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. It was both of us at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>both rigs. We swung around and the headlights were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pointing down the road heading out of there, and

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<v Speaker 2>there there it was, standing there to the left side,

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<v Speaker 2>next to a tree. And all I remember was at

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<v Speaker 2>that point it was just like panic mode because whatever

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<v Speaker 2>what we were looking at was not real. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not supposed to be real. We had I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just insane just to sit there and be

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<v Speaker 2>staring at it directly in the face. And it's only

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<v Speaker 2>it was only like twenty five thirty yards from us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had to drive by it to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of there, and we both both of my buddies gassed

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<v Speaker 2>it and we were we went flying out of that

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<v Speaker 2>road and as we were going by, I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it in the eyes as we went by, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still can't get that out of my head, just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it. And anyways, we go out of that

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<v Speaker 2>road and we hit the pavement and we decide we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stopped and we're like, do you think we're

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<v Speaker 2>far enough away from this thing? Do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>followed us? What do we do? And we'd left everything.

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<v Speaker 2>We left our tents, our coolers full of food, our chairs,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everything, our sleeping bags, and so that Three

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<v Speaker 2>Creeks Campground was not too far up the road, up

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<v Speaker 2>the pavement from there. So we decide, let's get to

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<v Speaker 2>the campground. Hopefully there's somebody camping there, a camp post

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<v Speaker 2>or something. So we go flying up to the campground

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<v Speaker 2>and we get to the gate. Well there's a gate

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<v Speaker 2>and it was closed through the season, so we decide

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<v Speaker 2>we're just going to sleep right there in the rigs

416
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>and we'll figure out what to do in the morning. Well,

417
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>needless to say, we did not sleep at all. None

418
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>of us slept. We sat there and talked about which

419
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>is kind of weird because when you listen to these podcasts,

420
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you hear about all these people that have this happen

421
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and they say they never talk about it, you know,

422
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:28.160
<v Speaker 2>or anything. We talked about it non stop. So we

423
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>sat there all night. Finally daylight comes and we decide

424
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go in there fully loaded and get all

425
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>of our stuff and get the heck out of there.

426
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>So we drive in there, we get back back to

427
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>where the camp was and one of the tents, our

428
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>tent was collapsed like it was, it was down. The

429
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>other tent was kind of partially collapsed. It was really loose,

430
00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 2>and we got to looking and there was a bunch

431
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of sticks and stuff laying around the tent at both

432
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 2>of them, and so we're like jumping out, We're grabbing

433
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>all of our we're trying to break everything down. We're

434
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 2>just we're not even really rolling anything up. We're just

435
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of throwing stuff in the back. And we get

436
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>everything loaded up, and it was at that point we

437
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>started kind of feeling a little more at ease because

438
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>it was daylight and we could see what was going on,

439
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>and so I told the guys like it was like,

440
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's look right where that thing was standing

441
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and see what we see. And so we walked over

442
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>there to the tree and there was clearly a perfect

443
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>footprint right next to this tree. And we started looking

444
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>around and you could see its footprints all the way

445
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 2>around camp and it basically we kind of tracked it

446
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and it had been it looked like it just worked

447
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>trail down around this area, just inside the trees. But

448
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I distinctly remember when we were driving by it, there

449
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was a little jackpine that was next to it and

450
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>it came up to its chest and you know, so

451
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>obviously the shoulders and head was above this jackpine. Well,

452
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>when we were standing there, that jackpine was the top

453
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 2>of my head. And at that time, I was probably

454
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 2>like five ten, I'm guessing something like that. So we're talking.

455
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>We're just like, do we tell somebody about this? What?

456
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, what should we do? And at that point

457
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I decided I was going to be the one. I

458
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 2>was going to go tell somebody. So we got all

459
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 2>of our stuff loaded and we had it out of there.

460
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>We drove all the way into Sisters and we went

461
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to the forest the Forest Service. There's a force ranger

462
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>station there, and we sat out in the parking lot

463
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>debating on if we should tell anybody and who was

464
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>actually going to tell. And I was like, I'll do it.

465
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't care this, you know, something's got to be

466
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>done about this. So I walk in there and I

467
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>looked at the guy that was there at the counter

468
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I know, I'm just a teenager.

469
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>You're probably not gonna blame or anything. But and I

470
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.799
<v Speaker 2>told him the story and he looked at me with

471
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the straight face and he's like, oh, yeah, he goes.

472
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 2>We get reports like this all the time.

473
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

474
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>And I was like really, and he's like, oh yeah,

475
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 2>he goes. It happens all the time around here. And

476
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, there's a clear footprint up there

477
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do whatever, if you want to

478
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>take pictures or and he was like, oh no, he goes.

479
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>We got plenty of these, We've got plenty of castings

480
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>from other people. We don't we don't need it. And

481
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, in my head, I was thinking, what

482
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the heck, these things aren't real, But yet here's somebody

483
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>telling me that they are real. And I was just

484
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>baffled by it. By that. I couldn't I couldn't quite

485
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>fathom what was going on and what had just happened

486
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>to us. So we go to school the next the

487
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 2>next week, and we start telling everybody, and I mean,

488
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>we got ridiculed, we got laughed at, we got we're

489
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of idiots, and you guys can get you know,

490
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>the story, you know, and so we just quit talking

491
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 2>about it. We still to this day talk about it

492
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>whenever we see each other. Actually, only one of the

493
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 2>friends that was with me I actually keep in contact

494
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>with and he remembers it like it was yesterday as well.

495
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>But that was my first encounter.

496
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Any questions, that is absolutely intense. Have you ever heard

497
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.799
<v Speaker 1>anything else that sounds like that talking that you heard

498
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that day?

499
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, the crazy thing is is throughout all my years

500
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>of hunting up until that point and beyond, I have

501
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>heard heard it like a couple other times. But like

502
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, back then, there was no internet.

503
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I hardly ever even watched TV. The only thing I

504
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 2>ever seen about Bigfoot was some guy debunked the Patty

505
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Gimlin film and it was on the news and it

506
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>was a hoax. And that was what I knew of

507
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot at the time. And I didn't know about any

508
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>of this other stuff that supposedly bigfoots do. And it

509
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>wasn't until Finding Bigfoot came on is when I started

510
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 2>like tree knocks hear I was like, well, I hear

511
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>those all the time, you know, all these whoops and whistles,

512
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>And I mean I had always hear that stuff out

513
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in the woods, you know, somebody like whistling at me,

514
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>thinking of trying to get my attention, and I look

515
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and I never could see anybody. But what really freaked

516
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.799
<v Speaker 2>me out was when that came on and then that

517
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>uh oh, what's the name of the the chat and

518
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>talk Sierra Sounds. Yeah, yeah, when they first did that

519
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>about crap my drawers, because that was basically it wasn't exact,

520
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 2>but it was close enough to where it freaked me out.

521
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I was like, holy crap, I was I was actually

522
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>chasing this thing because I was I thought it was

523
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>people you know, and or my buddies. At the time,

524
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I was just like.

525
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, So you have heard the Sierra Sounds and you're

526
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>saying what you heard that day was very similar to

527
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the Sierra Sounds.

528
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes. So, like I said, there was two of them

529
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that sounded like almost like kids, like younger like younger people,

530
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and then there was one that was they would only

531
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>talk ever so often, but it was super but it

532
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 2>was close enough to those Sierra Sounds where I could

533
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>tell you that that's exactly what it was, just that

534
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>language that I was hearing.

535
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.760
<v Speaker 1>When you saw the one in the headlights and you

536
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 1>had to drive by it to get out who in

537
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle was the closest to the Bigfoot. When you

538
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>guys drove by.

539
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>The driver, it was on the left side as we

540
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 2>were like leaving.

541
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, did were you able to see any details of

542
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>the face at all or what did it look like

543
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 1>specifically when you had the headlights on it?

544
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, no, I can't get it out of

545
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 2>my head. I know exactly what it looked like. I

546
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 2>know this is gonna sound stupid, just because after watching

547
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>all these podcasts and these documentaries and things like that,

548
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 2>the closest one I could tell you what it looked

549
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 2>like was I don't know if you that Todd standing

550
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that nobody seems to believe, or like that one that's

551
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like peeking through this little window that I can't remember.

552
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>He calls it by some name. It's black, but it

553
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>looks it looked just like a like an ancient human

554
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.159
<v Speaker 2>is what it looked like. It looked like a human.

555
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So this is really interesting because this now makes the

556
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>second time on the show that someone uses that specific reference,

557
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the first time being an individual who is looking for

558
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>gold south of Oakridge, so not too far away in

559
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the grand scheme of things. It's a very very interesting

560
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 1>detail for you to bring up.

561
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Yeah, this I just when I when I

562
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 2>watch that Todd Standing documentary and I seen that. I mean,

563
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 2>it just it's almost it's it's almost like an identical

564
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 2>twin that I that I'm looking at. And my second

565
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 2>encounter actually looks just like the other one that he shows,

566
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>not the not the not the brown one that's like

567
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 2>super clear. But it's like, uh, you know, I hate

568
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to say this, and I'm not not being mean, but

569
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:38.159
<v Speaker 2>it's got that it's the color of like an orangutang,

570
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 2>but it has the face like a down syndrome person has.

571
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not being mean about that or anything. I'm

572
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>just that's what it looked like. I think he calls

573
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>that one. I think he calls that one Jane or

574
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 2>something like a female.

575
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's also really interesting because you're not the only

576
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>one that has you that description in in in the field.

577
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>It's come up a few times and it's very interesting. Yeah,

578
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a detail that keeps coming up, so I think

579
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>there's there could be something there.

580
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, both of my encounters the like that one, they

581
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:26.719
<v Speaker 2>they they look different like I said, this one took

582
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 2>on more of a like an ancient human like it's

583
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>hard to explain. If you've seen that documentary, you'd know

584
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 2>what I was talking about. But then the other one

585
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>had a different look in the face. But you know,

586
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>just like we all do as humans.

587
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, Yeah, we have similar characteristics but then very

588
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>very different features as well. Yeah, that's that's a great

589
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>way to put it. I mean, you hear all these

590
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 1>big foot encounters and they're similar, yet they are very

591
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 1>very unique. Those are the questions I have so far. Lyle,

592
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 1>feel free to continue if you'd like.

593
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Just one more thing I'd add so so that, like

594
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, its head and shoulders were above that tree,

595
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it's it sounds so stereotypical, but I'm

596
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>guessing it was between the eight and nine foot tall range,

597
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and there was nothing nothing around that tree that he

598
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 2>could have been standing on. I say, he I don't

599
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>know if it was he or not, but there's nothing

600
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>on that was around there that he could have been

601
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 2>standing on or you know, elevated himself. So I just

602
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to add that. As far as like hype and.

603
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Stuff, you know, I did it come. I did think

604
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 1>of another question. During that time when you actually had

605
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the bigfoot in the headlights, did anyone in any of

606
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the cars start to have any weird out of the

607
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>ordinary physical reaction to seeing what they saw?

608
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>You know? Think it just I don't think they did.

609
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 1>No.

610
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.320
<v Speaker 2>If they did, it wasn't told to me about it. Sure,

611
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and out of all the times all this has happened

612
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 2>to me, I personally have never like felt any different.

613
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those ones that I seem to be

614
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 2>opposite of what everybody else is like. You know, people

615
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>don't talk about it, which I we did. We talked.

616
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>We still to this day talk about it like we

617
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>couldn't shut up about it. And you hear all these

618
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 2>other people that were with friends or something like that,

619
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and they never say a word about it. I do

620
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 2>believe that a lot of the stuff that people are

621
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling is the amount of fear and adrenaline is going

622
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>through your body. I think a lot of that feeling

623
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 2>that people think is in for sound or whatever is

624
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 2>just coming down off of that that that adrenaline that

625
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>that they're producing. At the time. It's such a such

626
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 2>a shock to your system because you're witnessing something that

627
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you've been told all your life that doesn't even exist,

628
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's facing you, and you're facing it.

629
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's right there. And just imagine if

630
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 1>you had had that sighting, not being in a vehicle,

631
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 1>not having that that almost false sense of security. I mean,

632
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't take much for it to take a vehicle apart.

633
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean, that's not going to really

634
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>save you, I think.

635
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, no, And that's the way I look

636
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>at it nowadays. Is I back when that happened, it

637
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>took me forever to get to where I would really

638
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>felt comfortable even going out by myself. But I've gotten

639
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to the point now where if this thing was out

640
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to kill you or hurtya, it would have done that

641
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to me a long time ago. The amount of time

642
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I spent out in the woods and all the experiences

643
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I've had, I'd been gone a long time ago. And

644
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I hear, you know, people talking about, well, if you

645
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 2>shoot at one, you're in big trouble. Well, we shot

646
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 2>at one numerous times, but I'm guessing thirty plus rounds

647
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and we're still here. It never it never did anything

648
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 2>as far as like it didn't wasn't aggressive. It was

649
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 2>almost like it was just curious and it was just

650
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to watch us.

651
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a very lucky situation. I've taken a report from

652
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>an individual where one of his friends opened fire in

653
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the Packwood, Washington area and then shot it in the face,

654
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and then later on this individual was thrown in the

655
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 1>woods about ten feet by something they couldn't see. And

656
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't you can you can guess what

657
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>that would have been. You're one of the lucky, unique

658
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 1>situations to be able to do something like that and

659
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>not have something happened to you.

660
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah to hear, Okay, Well, I'll go on to my

661
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>second encounter. Sure, this one, this one I don't talk

662
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 2>about too much because I was by myself. The only

663
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 2>reason I like my wife and kids. They all have

664
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>heard that story a gazillion times because they all all

665
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>have me tell their friends and they're you know, oh,

666
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Dad telling them your bigfoot story. Well, this one I

667
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 2>keep quiet about, and I don't think I've ever told

668
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 2>anybody this one, just because I was by myself, and

669
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of It's one of those things that I

670
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty much just kept myself because I had the experience

671
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of the first one telling people about it, and I

672
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>had three other buddies with me with that one, this

673
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>one being by myself. I can only imagine the kind

674
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of crap I would I would get from telling this story,

675
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna tell anyways. So, like everybody already knows,

676
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I live out here in Malala, and there is a

677
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>spot up a road big.

678
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.639
<v Speaker 1>For society will be right back after these messages.

679
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 2>It's called will Hoite Road. And there was a spot

680
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 2>that I used to love to hunt up there. It

681
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>always kind of gave me the creepy feeling. It's super big, tall,

682
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>old growth uh fir trees. I don't know why why

683
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it does, but every time I go in there, I

684
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 2>just kind of felt creepy. But I love to hunt

685
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>it because there was lots of alkam, lots of deer

686
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>in there all the time. Well, I went up there

687
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 2>one day by myself. It was a deer season and

688
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I was sneaking up through the old growth fur. And

689
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 2>in the underneath this old growth fur, there's it's just

690
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.079
<v Speaker 2>a sea of ferns and the ferns are probably three

691
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>foot tall. And I was walking uphill and as I

692
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 2>was walking uphill, I was looking at the ground and

693
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>looking for, you know, sign seeing if the if the

694
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:36.880
<v Speaker 2>deer had been moving through there, if they elk had

695
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:42.960
<v Speaker 2>been moving through there, and this little bowl shaped area,

696
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>it's probably i'd say a hundred by a hundred yards,

697
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and I could see the whole face of the hillside

698
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>all the way around me. Well, as I'm walking through

699
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>the ferns, I'm looking down to the ground and I

700
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>just start to pick my head up, and in the

701
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.599
<v Speaker 2>corner of my eye, I catch movement and as I

702
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 2>start to turn my head, look what I saw was.

703
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought what I saw was a bear, and it

704
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was by this big fir tree. And if you ever

705
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>seen a bear coming down out of a tree, when

706
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.519
<v Speaker 2>it just right when it touches the ground, its rear

707
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>legs are on the ground and its front legs are

708
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 2>up above its head still hanging under the tree. Well,

709
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>that's the position it was in when I first seen it.

710
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And right when I my eyes looked at it, that

711
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was my first thought was bear. And I whip my

712
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>rifle off, and I had a bear tag. I've always

713
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>had a bear I always have a bear tag, and

714
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that the season runs during deer season, and so I

715
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 2>ripped my rifle off and as I'm ripping my rifle

716
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:11.199
<v Speaker 2>off and swinging to shoot shoot this bear, it comes

717
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 2>down off of the tree. And as it's coming off

718
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the tree is when it looks at me, and I

719
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>could see that it had hands and it had a face,

720
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.559
<v Speaker 2>and it went from bear to holy you know what.

721
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 2>It's bigfoot And this thing is only fifty yards from me,

722
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and it went down to onto all fours and it

723
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>went behind this tall ferns and I had my gun

724
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 2>up and in my mind, I'm going to do I

725
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>shoot it? Do I shoot it? What do I do?

726
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, Okay, this thing's going to come out

727
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 2>somewhere I'll be able to see it. Because I could

728
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 2>see the whole hillside and there was there was no

729
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 2>place for to go other than on the hill side.

730
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 2>It it had to leave. Well, the ferns moved just

731
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>for a split second when it went behind the ferns.

732
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there, you know, my eyes are just

733
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.559
<v Speaker 2>like scanning, like where is this thing? And I'm looking

734
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 2>for it and I never see anything come out. And

735
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.760
<v Speaker 2>so I start slowly creeping up to my left and

736
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to get above it where I

737
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>can look down onto it. And as I'm sneaking around,

738
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I got I mean, my eyes are like all over

739
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 2>the place, just seeing if this thing's going to escape anywhere,

740
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and I don't see anything. And I make it all

741
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the way around three hundred and sixty degrees, all the

742
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 2>way around where this thing went behind these ferns, and

743
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I never saw anything. And so I finally got the

744
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 2>courage up and I started sneaking up to where it

745
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.599
<v Speaker 2>actually was, and there was nothing there. It just like

746
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 2>it just like vanished. But it was so crystal clear

747
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 2>when I seen it. And when it came down, it

748
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 2>went to all fours and it went behind that those ferns.

749
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could still to this day see it

750
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 2>in my in my head, and I don't know what

751
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 2>the heck would happen. Where'd it get? You know, I

752
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know where it went to this day I could,

753
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell you. And as big as it was,

754
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 2>you would have seen the ferns move, you would have

755
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 2>seen it come out on the hillside. I had a

756
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>wide open hillside that it had. The only other way

757
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been right past me. And it never came

758
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:56.719
<v Speaker 2>past me. And that's why I don't ever talk about

759
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 2>it because it sounds so far fetched that I think

760
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>everybody's like got that mindset like, oh yeah, what were

761
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you smoking, what were you drinking? You know, it's just

762
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>so I just never talk about it. But that was

763
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 2>my second sighting, and that's the one that it was

764
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a reddish color. It looked kind of like a rain

765
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a tang color the hair, but the face looked like

766
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 2>that Todd Standing's Jane that he calls her. I think

767
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 2>it had that kind of down syndrome. Me look to

768
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>its face. That's my second sighting.

769
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>What was this sound like in the woods that day.

770
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was it was super like misty, kind of

771
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 2>like a fog misty. You could just hear like rain drops.

772
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Just it's just like doe, this we get this do

773
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 2>over here that we'll sit on the leaves and then

774
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 2>it'll build up and then it drips. And that was

775
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.599
<v Speaker 2>the only it was dead quiet other than.

776
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 1>That from what you saw the point when you had

777
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>seen you know, it comes off the tree, it has hands,

778
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>has a face. Do you remember any details that stick

779
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 1>out in your mind that made you think, Okay, this

780
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is not a bear. What I'm seeing in the face

781
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>right now is totally different.

782
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I was able to lock my eyes on it. Just

783
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.199
<v Speaker 2>for the other thing I forgot to mention was as

784
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 2>my eyes were coming up and actually visually seeing this

785
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 2>thing it, there was like a tree knock and it

786
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 2>sounded like it came from that that that thing, that bigfoot,

787
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 2>But there was nothing in its hand as far as

788
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 2>like a stick or anything. So which kind of leads

789
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 2>me to think that there are these tree knocks that

790
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 2>people talk about. I think they're doing it with their

791
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 2>mouth or something. Because it was so loud that knock

792
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 2>when it happened, it had to have been that one

793
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>right there, you know. It had to been that that

794
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 2>animal there that made the noise. Is it was so loud.

795
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 2>It was just like right there when it happened. And

796
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>but as as I heard that is when I was

797
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 2>seeing it, but nothing fell out of its hands, like

798
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it was like it would have hit something with a stick,

799
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, if it would have a stick, I would

800
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.800
<v Speaker 2>have thought that I would see like a stick, you know,

801
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 2>flying out of its hands or falling out of its hands. Yeah,

802
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. I think I had a

803
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 2>buddy back in high school that could do this thing

804
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>with this tongue he had sucked his tongue up against

805
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the roof of his mouth, and he had just and

806
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it would just I mean, he would actually almost make

807
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>it deaf. It just blow your ear drums out. And

808
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.400
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of what I'm leaning towards on this knocking

809
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:23.920
<v Speaker 2>thing after seeing that.

810
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, I agree with you. There's more than a

811
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 1>few people in the community that are throwing around theories

812
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, what you just said, or sometimes having

813
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 1>its hands in front of its face so it can

814
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 1>make like some kind of you know, clap his hands,

815
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.599
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even I think there's some individuals out there

816
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that think there might be like some kind of air

817
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>sack that it can you know, inflate in its throat.

818
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard that one a lot, but what you said,

819
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that more than a few times. It's very interesting.

820
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it was so loud and clear when it happened,

821
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was obvious that that bigfoot made

822
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that sound. But I did not see anything in its

823
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 2>hand was so which leads me to believe that it

824
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>was doing it somehow through its mouth or or or whatever.

825
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know how, you know, I wouldn't

826
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 2>even that's all speculation. I'm just guessing, but it was.

827
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it enough to know that it wasn't hitting

828
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the tree with a stick, but it made that sound

829
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 2>like it hit the tree with a stick.

830
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. What approximate year was this again?

831
00:55:54.440 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm gonna say the early two thousand's, Okay. I

832
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.960
<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell you what it was before I had hounds,

833
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to say like two thousand and four,

834
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:10.639
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five.

835
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to point out real quick for

836
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 1>listeners that Lyle is not a bigfoot researcher. He is

837
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:26.679
<v Speaker 1>a lifelong hunter in these you know, he does listen

838
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 1>to some bigfoot media, but he's not a researcher. He

839
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>is primarily a hunter.

840
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, I've never until that finding bigfoot came out,

841
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I I didn't even know that there was even a

842
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>possibility that bigfoot made tree knocks or whoops or whistles

843
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 2>or any of that stuff I had through rocks, I mean,

844
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.639
<v Speaker 2>even the chatter, the talking. I knew nothing about it,

845
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 2>nor did I care to even learn. But until that happened,

846
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 2>and I started putting all these pieces together of stuff

847
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>that had happened to me over the years. I was

848
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 2>just like, holy crap, I cannot believe all this stuff

849
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>has been happening, and I had no clue.

850
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>It is always interesting in conversations like this, you know

851
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 1>how there's a point when the individual starts to put

852
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 1>everything together. But it's been a fascinating conversation so far, Loud,

853
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any other things happen after that?

854
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Those are the only two actual physical sightings I've had,

855
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But I've had other crazy things happen to me. I

856
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>got into hound hunting several years ago, and up in

857
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:59.840
<v Speaker 2>this same area. Well, this is up the mall core

858
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 2>or used to We used to do a lot of

859
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 2>bobcat hunting and I had I used to hunt with

860
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:11.639
<v Speaker 2>several buddies that had hounds, and these hounds were bear dogs.

861
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>There were cat dogs. These dogs had zero fear of anything.

862
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 2>These dogs would you know, you'd catch a bear on

863
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 2>the ground, they'd catch a bear on the ground and

864
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 2>be right in that bear's face, just baying it up,

865
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>going crazy. Well, one night we were up hound hunting

866
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:39.039
<v Speaker 2>and the dogs struck and they were going crazy, and

867
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>we turned them out and they went running up on

868
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>this up on the hill, up on this bluff and

869
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you hear all this yipping and

870
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 2>yiping and like something was hurting them. And here they

871
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 2>come running back down the hill, tails between their legs

872
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and they bailed back in the truck. It was like,

873
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I we could not get them back out of the truck.

874
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And they actually refused to come back out of that box.

875
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 2>All night long. They would they wouldn't even say a peep,

876
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>which is completely like it just doesn't happen. Well, a

877
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:20.679
<v Speaker 2>buddy of mine. As a little spoof, they went and

878
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:24.599
<v Speaker 2>got I think it was a gorilla costume, and they

879
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>were doing this little video and they had their hounds

880
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:33.320
<v Speaker 2>on their truck and they had this guy that was

881
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 2>dressed up in a grilla suit run out in front

882
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of them and their video in it. And the dogs

883
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.639
<v Speaker 2>struck and I'm assuming they thought it was a bear.

884
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 2>They ran across the road and when they turned those

885
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 2>dogs loose, they tore off after it. And as soon

886
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 2>as they got close enough where he had stepped back

887
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 2>out onto the road and they could see that it

888
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:02.920
<v Speaker 2>was like an upright gorilla, those dogs like hit the brakes,

889
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>started to yipping, wheeled around and did that exact same

890
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 2>thing back to the truck, and they were like whimpering.

891
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 2>It was like they had seen it before and then

892
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 2>like they knew exactly what it was and they did

893
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.320
<v Speaker 2>not want anything to do with it, which is just

894
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:24.440
<v Speaker 2>totally crazy to me, because these dogs they're just insane.

895
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're fearless, which I thought was pretty interesting

896
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 2>seeing that. Another another thing that had happened to us

897
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago, my wife and I we

898
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 2>went up deer She went up deer hunting with me,

899
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and we were driving down the road up by Table

900
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Rock Wilderness area and it was a weekday and we

901
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 2>were the only ones up there when there was a

902
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 2>slight skiff of snow on the road and we're putting

903
01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:00.519
<v Speaker 2>up this little, this old logging road. Nobody had on it.

904
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 2>We're the first truck on it.

905
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Big for Society will be right back after these messages, And.

906
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.800
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, I catched something coming towards my windshield.

907
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a bird, and I'm like, oh, crap,

908
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.519
<v Speaker 2>And before I could say crap, it had hit my

909
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 2>window and it was an actual rock and it hit

910
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 2>my windshield dead centered it and it slid down my

911
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 2>windshield onto the plate where your wipers are. And my

912
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 2>wife looked at me and she goes, is that what

913
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that was? And I was like, I think so,

914
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was a rock and she saw it

915
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 2>coming too, and it was thrown. So it was thrown

916
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>and it came off the hillside, which it's all all trees,

917
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 2>but you could not you could not hit my windshield

918
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>more dead center than that rock did. That was another

919
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 2>crazy one that had happened to us. Another crazy experience

920
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 2>we had was it was archery season, which is September

921
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 2>hotter and heck out. My father in law and I

922
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:30.280
<v Speaker 2>we decided we were going to go. I'd found these

923
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 2>elk in this swamp area up in this timber company

924
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that it used to be walking only you couldn't drive

925
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.239
<v Speaker 2>in there. I had walked up in there and I'd

926
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.360
<v Speaker 2>found a pretty good size heard elk up in this

927
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.119
<v Speaker 2>swamp area. And it was so hot out that that

928
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:52.000
<v Speaker 2>at that time of the year it was getting down

929
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.639
<v Speaker 2>it was still like in the eighties at night. So

930
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 2>we decided, well, let's walk up in there. This was

931
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.679
<v Speaker 2>Friday afternoon. Let's walk up in there. We'll get up

932
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 2>in there just before daylight and we'll just sack out

933
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 2>underneath the tree. We'll wake up and we'll be right

934
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:12.880
<v Speaker 2>there on them first thing in the morning. So my

935
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 2>father in law, he's been in the woods his whole

936
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 2>life as well, his father in law and all that.

937
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 2>He actually was one of the guys ran this same

938
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:31.000
<v Speaker 2>timber company, well not the same company, but the same

939
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 2>land for many many years. He had been all over

940
01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:36.960
<v Speaker 2>up in there. So we walk up in there, and

941
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 2>we get up in there, and we find a perfect

942
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 2>spot just to lay down and crash out for the night.

943
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And it got to be about ten o'clock and we

944
01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:50.760
<v Speaker 2>were getting eaten by the mosquitoes. The mosquitoes were just

945
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 2>absolutely horrible, and all of a sudden, I don't know

946
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the exact time, I'm guessing it was around eleven, maybe twelve,

947
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden we hear this, I want to say, scream,

948
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't a scream. It was more like a roar.

949
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And the only thing I can describe it is like

950
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 2>that Ohio howl. But it was so freaking loud. It

951
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 2>was like insanely loud, and it was coming from that

952
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.719
<v Speaker 2>same swamp that I had found those elkin And my

953
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 2>father in law was like, I had to have been

954
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.639
<v Speaker 2>a bear, right, And I was like, yeah, no, that

955
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a bear. I you know, hound hunted. I heard

956
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:44.360
<v Speaker 2>plenty of bears and cougars and all that stuff. Knew

957
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they sounded like. But this thing was it

958
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:55.559
<v Speaker 2>was insanely loud, like it shook your guts tight loudness.

959
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And it was still a ways off that swamp was

960
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.559
<v Speaker 2>We were still probably a quarter mile away from that swamp,

961
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's where exactly where it sounded like. But it

962
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:09.599
<v Speaker 2>was so loud that it's still reverberated in your chest.

963
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.719
<v Speaker 2>It was so loud.

964
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.280
<v Speaker 1>You may have heard me talk about before. I've I

965
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 1>think I've heard something similar in the Lammette down by Oakridge.

966
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 1>It just the way that affects you as nuts physically,

967
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just oh yeah, oh my goodness.

968
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah. And of course we had to spend

969
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the night. I took the only thing

970
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 2>we had. It was archery season. Also the only thing

971
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.679
<v Speaker 2>we had was bow and arrows, and so I took

972
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I think I took two arrows out and I slept

973
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 2>with one arrow in each hand sticking straight out from me,

974
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and I actually I didn't even sleep I just sat

975
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 2>there all night and I didn't know what else to do.

976
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't about ready to walk out of there, because

977
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we were a couple miles in and we didn't I

978
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.239
<v Speaker 2>don't even think we had a headlight. I don't think

979
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>we even brought a headlight. We want super light. But

980
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 2>we just laid there all night long waiting for it

981
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to get daylight. And actually, after it got daylight, I

982
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>looked at him. I was like, you're ready to go hunt,

983
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, let's get out of here. He

984
01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't want anything to do with going into that after hearing.

985
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:31.400
<v Speaker 1>That, Wow, oh my goodness.

986
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then in that same area, oh, it was

987
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 2>several years later they opened it up to a permit

988
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 2>and so you could drive in there. Well, I had

989
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.800
<v Speaker 2>went in there with a couple buddies. We were deer hunting,

990
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and I ran across this herd of bucks. There was

991
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.280
<v Speaker 2>probably ten or twelve bucks in it, and we decided

992
01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 2>we were going to hunt this timbered ridge that kind

993
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 2>of ran and it was actually right behind that swamp

994
01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that I was talking about. And we get to walking

995
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 2>down that ridge and my buddies are off to my left,

996
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 2>and I was right on top of that ridge, and

997
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm walking down and I get to this area and

998
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:22.000
<v Speaker 2>there is crap everywhere, and this stuff was like this

999
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.920
<v Speaker 2>when I say it feces crap, this stuff was like

1000
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the size of a pop can and it was literally

1001
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 2>like in piles everywhere. And as I got to looking around,

1002
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I watched this documentary. I think it's the is it

1003
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:46.679
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot Project or I can't remember. It's up in

1004
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:50.280
<v Speaker 2>the on the peninsula where they find these nests.

1005
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Olympic Project.

1006
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there, yeah, there you go, there you go. And

1007
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I found the nest and it was woven with like

1008
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 2>fur boughs and stuff like that. But there was like

1009
01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:12.079
<v Speaker 2>literally you could see mounds probably a foot and a

1010
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:16.720
<v Speaker 2>half two foot tall of animal crap and it was,

1011
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, spread out all over the place in there,

1012
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and it was super thick. But there was a nest

1013
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in there. Well, I got my buddies over there and

1014
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:26.600
<v Speaker 2>go look at this. What was this? And I still

1015
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 2>at that point didn't know anything about all this stuff,

1016
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, it has to be bear. I mean,

1017
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I thought it was, was a bear.

1018
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 2>But watching that documentary, I'm pretty positive that that was

1019
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.359
<v Speaker 2>a nest and it was right on Like I said,

1020
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 2>it was right on top of a ridge behind that swamp,

1021
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and there was zero roads. It was pretty hard to

1022
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 2>get to. And with all the other experiences that have

1023
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 2>been happening up there, I'm pretty positive that was the

1024
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.119
<v Speaker 2>nest we stumbled on. Of course, you know, I didn't

1025
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 2>know anything about it, so I didn't even think to

1026
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.039
<v Speaker 2>take pictures or anything like that.

1027
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's it's a Hindsight's twenty twenty thing. Did

1028
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:16.119
<v Speaker 1>you say this is also in the table Rock Wilderness

1029
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:18.479
<v Speaker 1>area or something a completely different area?

1030
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, so table Rock Wilderness is on I

1031
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.680
<v Speaker 2>think the south side of the river. I was on

1032
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the north side of the river. Okay, it's a little

1033
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:38.399
<v Speaker 2>creek called Bower Creek. Warehouser's the timber company Bower Creek

1034
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 2>b a U E R e R, I believe, or

1035
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's b a U R e R.

1036
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 1>This also early two thousands, probably.

1037
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, it dumps into Pine Creek. Uh, yeah, I

1038
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.960
<v Speaker 2>believe it. I think I think it into Pine Pinekirk Canyon,

1039
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 2>which is where Pinekirk is, which is where when you

1040
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.640
<v Speaker 2>watch I think it's finding Bigfoot. That was the other

1041
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 2>thing that was kind of if you follow that ridge

1042
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 2>down it comes out there. There's a guy that talks

1043
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.640
<v Speaker 2>about seeing a bigfoot and they're standing at that bridge

1044
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 2>at Pinekirk Bridge. He doesn't say it's Pinekirk Bridge, but

1045
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that's where it's at where he had an encounter while

1046
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:36.319
<v Speaker 2>he was fishing right there, And that was on that

1047
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 2>finding bigfoot. I think he said he's seeing red glowing eyes.

1048
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing, is all this stuff that's happened

1049
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to me, I've never like that, I that I can remember.

1050
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I never had uh smells anything off. You know, never

1051
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you hear people talking about they have the the smell,

1052
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 2>this horrible smell. I never found like other than that

1053
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.800
<v Speaker 2>one the first experience I've had. I've never found like

1054
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 2>a definite footprint. I've definitely ran into stuff that, you know,

1055
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it, but I couldn't tell you one

1056
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:27.399
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent if it was or not. Yeah, that same spot,

1057
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 2>that Pinekreek Canyon where that guy was, just up the

1058
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 2>river from there, I was fishing salmon fishing, and I

1059
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:39.720
<v Speaker 2>parked my rig and walked down. It was probably one

1060
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty yards down to the river, and I

1061
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.520
<v Speaker 2>had rocks thrown into the river while I was fishing,

1062
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.479
<v Speaker 2>and Never I actually was yelling at him like, hey,

1063
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.199
<v Speaker 2>a hole, you know, knock it off. I'm down here fishing.

1064
01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Never I went walking back up thinking I'd see somebody

1065
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.479
<v Speaker 2>park by my rig, and there was nobody that I

1066
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:05.680
<v Speaker 2>could find. So, you know, all that stuff is stuff

1067
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't tell you one hundred percent that it

1068
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 2>was bigfoot or if it was somebody throwing rocks. A

1069
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of this stuff I can't A lot of those,

1070
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:19.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whistles that I've heard over the years.

1071
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:22.560
<v Speaker 2>You know that some of the tree knocks that could

1072
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:26.520
<v Speaker 2>have been I've been in the woods where I've heard

1073
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.439
<v Speaker 2>the trees creaking and it sounded like a wood knock

1074
01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, huh, that must have been what I've

1075
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.079
<v Speaker 2>been here and all this time. But I mean, you

1076
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>never know, it seems like a lot of people are

1077
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.359
<v Speaker 2>are having the same experiences.

1078
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, especially over the years in this area. It's

1079
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 1>just I mean, I've I've talked to multiple individuals that

1080
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:56.000
<v Speaker 1>have had just wild stuff happen in this Molaala area.

1081
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.159
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about this beforehand, and I think it

1082
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.960
<v Speaker 1>might be good to mention it as well, this entire

1083
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Malala River Corridor area has been burned recently. Correct.

1084
01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I don't really mind sharing

1085
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 2>where this stuff is at because it's basically moonscape now

1086
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:21.279
<v Speaker 2>from the fires we had in twenty twenty. You know,

1087
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:28.039
<v Speaker 2>there's really nothing left of it up here. There's it's yeah,

1088
01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:33.520
<v Speaker 2>it's it was bad, it's bad. It's pretty much gone now. Yeah.

1089
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:36.479
<v Speaker 1>So that to say, guys, you're not going to be

1090
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.560
<v Speaker 1>able to drive up there and find the next Olympic

1091
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Project Bigfoot in s site probably, Yeah, it's all been burned,

1092
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So heads up on that. Guys. Did you have any

1093
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 1>other things you were wanting to share as well?

1094
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Lyle, there is one other so I'd send you an

1095
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:57.840
<v Speaker 2>email back. A couple of years or several years ago,

1096
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.319
<v Speaker 2>my kids, we're still young. We it to Colton High School.

1097
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.159
<v Speaker 2>It was for I want to say, it was a

1098
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:07.720
<v Speaker 2>wrestling tournament or something. Well, when I walked in there,

1099
01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the front fourier, the entrance area, there was a big

1100
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it was actually a pretty big bigfoot display there and

1101
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.199
<v Speaker 2>at the time I didn't really think much of it,

1102
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 2>but I went up this I used to hunt up

1103
01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 2>this road. It's called hillock Burn Road. It's up out

1104
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:30.800
<v Speaker 2>of Colton and Elwood, and I was driving up Hillock

1105
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Burn one year it was archery season and I ran

1106
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>into this old guy that was living in a camp

1107
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.399
<v Speaker 2>trailer and he was the night watchman slash security guy

1108
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.239
<v Speaker 2>for the loggers that were up there. He kind of

1109
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:50.520
<v Speaker 2>watched the equipment and the site forum, and I kind

1110
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.039
<v Speaker 2>of befriended him because he obviously lived up there and

1111
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to get information. I was like, hey,

1112
01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:01.119
<v Speaker 2>you see me elk out here? And he always the

1113
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.640
<v Speaker 2>first couple of times I talked to him, I'd asked

1114
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 2>him to say, hey, you see me ol because here

1115
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, no, but I've seen Bigfoot. And he

1116
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:12.880
<v Speaker 2>was one of those old guys that kind of like

1117
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the way he talked and stuff. You were like, Okay,

1118
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.800
<v Speaker 2>is this guy. I think he's kind of out there type.

1119
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think it was like the third or fourth

1120
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:26.760
<v Speaker 2>time i'd stopped and talked to him. He's like, let

1121
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:29.359
<v Speaker 2>me show you. Let me show you. These suckers were

1122
01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 2>in here. And he took me down this little tiny

1123
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 2>trail it used to be a road that's all grown

1124
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.720
<v Speaker 2>up now, and he was showing me all these trees

1125
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that were snapped over at the tops were snapped over

1126
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're all twisted, and I at that, you know,

1127
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:47.000
<v Speaker 2>just like I said, back at that time, I didn't

1128
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:52.439
<v Speaker 2>know that that's what Bigfoot was associated, that that's type

1129
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 2>of stuff was associated with Bigfoot. And when I finding

1130
01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Bidfoot came out, started kind of looking into all these

1131
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 2>documentaries where I found this old documentary and I was

1132
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:07.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to find it so I can tell you, but

1133
01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I wasn't able to find it. It starts

1134
01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 2>out with this kind of this guy playing drugs drums.

1135
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was like, this is the Henry Franzoni one.

1136
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I knew it the whole time you were talking. I

1137
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's the guy from the Henry Franzoni documentary.

1138
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

1139
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that that guy was on there. I was like, dude,

1140
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:29.720
<v Speaker 2>freaking kidding. I knew same guy.

1141
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I just knew it when you were describing him.

1142
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So that whole documentary was off of Hillock Burn, that

1143
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>same road.

1144
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.680
<v Speaker 1>No way, yeah, oh man.

1145
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which was which kind of blew me away. I

1146
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:49.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, what the heck is going on? Why do

1147
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I you know, Like like you said, I'm not a researcher,

1148
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean, me and my family go out

1149
01:16:56.520 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and we do it. We we've had experiences which I'll

1150
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 2>probably have to say for another time, but uh, we

1151
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 2>go out and just kind of do it for fun

1152
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.720
<v Speaker 2>now but when there's nothing else to do. But yeah,

1153
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.560
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff is so crazy.

1154
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm getting a little bit excited, so I'm going

1155
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to try not to interrupt. But so is this hillock

1156
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Burn Spring.

1157
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not. I don't think it's. It's just hillock Burn Road,

1158
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe.

1159
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it's not like off of Forest Road forty six.

1160
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Ah, it very well could be. So if you go

1161
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:48.960
<v Speaker 2>due north out of Colton, Okay, there'll be. I think

1162
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 2>it's I want to say, five miles out of Colton

1163
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:58.399
<v Speaker 2>towards Estacada. Yep, it's hillock Burn Road. And you take

1164
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a ride on that and you stay on that takes

1165
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 2>you back up oh by Goat Mountain. Oh yeah, great

1166
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Green Mountain and that country up and.

1167
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 1>There hotly Mackerel. So, Okay, this is wild because, as

1168
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think this might have been off air.

1169
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm reading the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book again, which

1170
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:28.239
<v Speaker 1>is Forest Road forty six and then it goes to

1171
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty much like the craziest Bigfoot area in

1172
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that part of the Pacific Northwest. And I'm gonna have

1173
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to see I'm gonna have to Okay, here it is

1174
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.239
<v Speaker 1>forty six and then Route two two four, so you

1175
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:51.039
<v Speaker 1>like take forty six through Ripplebrook and then eventually it

1176
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:55.199
<v Speaker 1>dumps you out at Detroit Lake. But that's crazy. So

1177
01:18:55.279 --> 01:19:01.479
<v Speaker 1>to know that that's my favorite Bigfoot documentary. Dude is heady.

1178
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Franzonia got to talk to him a few times. He

1179
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>was a great, a great guy. He's no longer with us,

1180
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 1>But to know that that I always wanted to know

1181
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:13.159
<v Speaker 1>where that area was and for you just to drop that,

1182
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, you are incredible, my friend. I always

1183
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to that dude in the documentary. But

1184
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's long gone. He's got to be long gone.

1185
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, that was years ago. Super

1186
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.680
<v Speaker 2>nice guy, kind of like I said, kind of kind

1187
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.119
<v Speaker 2>of out there. And when I've seen that, I just

1188
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:35.560
<v Speaker 2>felt fell out of my chair.

1189
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, yeah, you know he's seen stuff, like

1190
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the way the guy, the type of guy he is.

1191
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:46.119
<v Speaker 1>He he was having stuff happen all the time.

1192
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean it was so matter of fact

1193
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.000
<v Speaker 2>like he did. He didn't even like, well, I don't

1194
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.640
<v Speaker 2>know type attitude. I mean, it was like, this is

1195
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.279
<v Speaker 2>what's happening, this is what they're doing. It is like

1196
01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:01.520
<v Speaker 2>he he knew exactly what was going on and who

1197
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>they were and what they what they were all about.

1198
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Incredible, my goodness. I will also say the listeners, all

1199
01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:16.319
<v Speaker 1>these areas a lot of these areas that are being

1200
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:20.239
<v Speaker 1>talked about are hard to get to. And it's not

1201
01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 1>just a thing where it's like I'm going to go

1202
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.079
<v Speaker 1>out there and do whatever. You need to be prepared

1203
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:30.079
<v Speaker 1>for survival situations in some of these situations, so just

1204
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>be careful. I would recommend getting the Oregon Big Foo

1205
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Highway talks about it. It's a great book.

1206
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'll definitely look into that.

1207
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you would love it.

1208
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Man. I know we're running out. Yeah, I know, we're

1209
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 2>running out of time, and uh, maybe I'll maybe plan

1210
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:52.239
<v Speaker 2>another one where I can talk about all my family's experiences.

1211
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:56.239
<v Speaker 1>And we got the family stuff too. Yeah. Can I

1212
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>ask you one one more question while I got you,

1213
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just in case, and this is going to be a

1214
01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>left curveball whatever, whatever the analogy is. Do you know

1215
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of any bigfoot activity that's happened over the years down

1216
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.079
<v Speaker 1>by Subtle Lake? Are you familiar with that area?

1217
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've used to hunt that all

1218
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:27.439
<v Speaker 2>the time. I've had a few, not not cutting dried experiences,

1219
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.960
<v Speaker 2>but things like I've been talking about happen there. I

1220
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.039
<v Speaker 2>have several friends that have told me stories about things

1221
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:39.520
<v Speaker 2>that have happened out there. I'd have to get with

1222
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.039
<v Speaker 2>those guys and ask them if it's okay. Yeah, no,

1223
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I talk to them.

1224
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I respect that. Yeah, absolutely, you always want to check that. Yep, yep.

1225
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, all these buddies I talk about it

1226
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was with me. I didn't ask them, and I you know,

1227
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.960
<v Speaker 2>with the amount of crappy git from talking about this stuff,

1228
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I hate to drop start dropping and and everything without

1229
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>anybody's permission.

1230
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to tell you the truth, I would edit. I

1231
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>usually end up editing the names out more recently, just

1232
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.439
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, I mean, if it's if it's secondhand

1233
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff you never know, right, and especially a weird name, Yeah,

1234
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>track those down.

1235
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>So uh yeah, like like my name with my name,

1236
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like everybody's going to know exactly who

1237
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 2>who's talking here. It's not like a like a Brian

1238
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.600
<v Speaker 2>where there's a gazillion Brian's. But yeah, there's not too

1239
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>many Lyles out there.

1240
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Lyle, this has been a we got we got to have.

1241
01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>If you're up for, we got to have another conversation.

1242
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I've got a whole list of Yeah, yeah, we could

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<v Speaker 1>definitely talk again if you're up for. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about your family's experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, there's a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, we got to have you back. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you spending some time on your Saturday talking about some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite areas in this part of Oregon. That's

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<v Speaker 1>been very, very eye opening that I haven't heard much

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<v Speaker 1>from the Three Creeks area, so that's pretty cool. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be in touch, Lyle, And thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, well, I appreciate it. Thank you, Jeremiah, you

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<v Speaker 2>got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

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<v Speaker 1>someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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<v Speaker 1>the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you back next time. Listeners. Sasat Summerfest this year

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<v Speaker 1>July eleventh through the twelfth. It's going to be fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>And listeners, if you're going to go, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>but BFS and I'll get used some off your cost.

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