WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.240 Hi. 2 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.120 I'm doctor Maria Mayer, anthropologists, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.080 of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. 4 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:09.720 I've spent my entire life. 5 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.679 Exploring the planet's wildest, most remote places in search of 6 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:17.320 the extraordinary, and now I'm inviting you to join me. 7 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.000 Introducing the Explorer Society, a global community of curious minds, 8 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.800 truth seekers, and adventures where we dive into the unknown, 9 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.199 from elusive creatures like Bigfoot, to the frontiers of science, 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.679 nature and unexplained phenomena. 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Ever since 20 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.640 I was a kid, I've heard tales of Bigfoot and 21 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.159 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 22 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.280 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 23 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.519 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 24 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.000 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 25 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:25.519 I've personally become involved with The Untold Radio Network. The 26 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:29.120 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 27 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:33.200 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 28 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:35.959 and more. They have eight different shows on all sorts 29 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.959 of exciting topics such as bigfoot, cryptids, UFOs, aliens, and 30 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.319 much more. 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Something just kid with my dog. 42 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.840 Something to kill your dog? My dog? What're flying through here? 43 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.879 Over the tree? I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, 44 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.479 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 45 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:28.360 over the fence. The name was dead once you hit 46 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.199 the ground. I didn't be seen any cars. All I 47 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:49.000 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Are you 48 00:02:49.039 --> 00:03:02.360 reporting we got some wonder or something prowling around out here? 49 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:04.199 I'm out here. 50 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:06.199 Welcome new to window now, and I don't need anything. 51 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:14.919 I don't want to go outside. Hello, hit the fundy 52 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.879 out here on out there? Thought off a bit about 53 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.000 second nine. I don't know. Easy ann ount there. Yeah, 54 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.080 I'm walking right all right. 55 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:25.000 Folks want to welcome our guest to the show. It is 56 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:29.199 writer and director of the new film Feat of Death, 57 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.400 James Chick. Welcome to the show Man. 58 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:33.599 Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. 59 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.960 Yeah, I'm glad you reached out. I'm glad we're doing this. 60 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.280 I watched your film this morning. We're definitely going to 61 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:39.879 get into that. But I want to start where I 62 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.439 start with everybody that's on the show, What in the 63 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:44.960 world got you interested in the subject of Bigfoot? 64 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.680 To begin with? Great question born and raised Pacific Northwest, 65 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:53.680 so I am in big Boot territory everywhere, from coffee 66 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.879 shops and mechanical shops bumper stickers. Literally, you can't go 67 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.159 five minutes without seeing Bigfoot somewhere. In twenty twenty, when 68 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.120 all the craziness happened, I moved out here to southern Washington, 69 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.879 near Mount Saint Helms actually where the film takes place, 70 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.879 and I got five acres out here in the country, 71 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.159 so I was really just embedded in it. And I 72 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.280 was trying to come up with the concept for a 73 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.759 film that I knew I could do as my first 74 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.519 directorial debut. I'd worked on a ton of indie films 75 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.800 and it had been in the industry for twenty years, 76 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.959 but I had never directed something myself. So when I 77 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:27.759 was trying to think of something that I would want 78 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:29.439 to see and that I knew I could pull off, 79 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:32.560 Bigfoot just came to mind. Because I love monster movies 80 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:36.079 growing up. Obviously, Jaws impacted me more than any because 81 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.600 it was such a crazy monster movie. Tremer's the thing newer. 82 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.680 I like, oh my gosh, now I'm blanking on it. 83 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:44.839 My goodness, A quiet place, sorry, I love a quiet place. 84 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.120 That's some great monster movies. I'm definitely into the monster 85 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.720 genre of films. So when I was trying to think 86 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.600 of something that I wanted to watch that I wanted 87 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.560 to make, Bigfoot just made sense. 88 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.000 Let's talk a little bit about the genesis for the 89 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.399 film and your ideas going into it. I know that 90 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.959 creative process is different for everybody. I've written two books 91 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.399 on the subject. The first book was a very scientific 92 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.120 approach to the research and the history of the subject 93 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.439 of Bigfoot in general. But I wanted to do something else. Honestly, 94 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.079 I'm not a big fiction fan. I'm a horror fan. 95 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.680 I love horror films, but when it comes to Bigfoot, 96 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.959 I'm more of a documentary style guy. I like that 97 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:25.360 kind of look into the Bigfoot world. I wanted to 98 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.600 write a story. I had this story rattling around in 99 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:31.399 my brain forever, having a baby Sasquatch born into the 100 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:35.560 world that the readers could follow throughout its life and 101 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.519 have a series of books. So I just did that 102 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.360 first book, and it was dipping my toe into something 103 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.800 frankly I'm not really into, which is weird. When I 104 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.319 went into the book, I had never written any fiction before, 105 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.600 so I just went into it headlong, and I literally 106 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.040 wrote the book in about a month and a half 107 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.160 or two months. It just poured out of me because 108 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.759 the story had been rattling around forever. Was it similar 109 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.399 for you When you got into this, you had an 110 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:58.439 idea of what you wanted the movie to look like. 111 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.959 Talk a little bit about that process and getting into 112 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.040 that and doing your directoral debut into Bigfoot. 113 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:06.600 First of all, that's amazing that you wrote a book 114 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:09.399 in a couple months. That's phenomenal. But as far as 115 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.199 my process goes, I was trying to It was obviously 116 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.800 going to be low budget because it was a crowdfunded, 117 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:17.480 self funded kind of project. So I was trying to 118 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.000 think of what we had access to. So I knew 119 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.600 I obviously had the woods. I live out here, I 120 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:25.959 have five acres. I knew I had access to some 121 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.240 cool cabins and to some amazing nature with waterfalls and 122 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.519 the exteriors of Mount Saint Helens. So I was really 123 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.040 writing into what I had and that was a big 124 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:37.759 inspiration of it. And so really it was first just 125 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.800 brainstorming ideas. I had done a lot of youtubing in 126 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:44.920 the past. I did some travel channels, where I traveled 127 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.160 across the country, So social media influencer popped into my mind, 128 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.160 which is why the beginning of the film's a split 129 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.079 perspective where we're cutting back and forth between law enforcement 130 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.240 and the social media influencer. I was trying to tap 131 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.639 into things that I had experienced with and things that 132 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.079 I knew you and, like you said, that really helps 133 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.240 it flow out of you. You're not trying to research 134 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.199 every little thing because you have experience with it. You 135 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.279 know what you're doing, You're writing what you know. So 136 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.639 that really helped with coming out with, Okay, what would 137 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.360 this guy do. He's obviously researching these things, but he's 138 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.120 there for the views. He's trying to get out there. 139 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.000 But I didn't want it to be a found footage movie. 140 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.079 I didn't want it to be there are so many 141 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.040 found footage movies Bigfoot, so I wanted to do something 142 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.680 more cinematic. So then I came up with the idea 143 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.120 of kind of cross cutting and then by the second 144 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.000 actor takeover with the cinematic mode and follow the law 145 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.800 enforcement kind of researching these murders and these deaths. So 146 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:37.759 that was really the inspiration of it, and how I 147 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:40.079 came up with it is just writing something that I 148 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.680 wanted to watch and something that I had access to, 149 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.399 but something different, because even though found footage is easy 150 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.560 to do, that's why there's so many of them. I 151 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:52.079 just didn't want to be another Blair Witch slash Bigfoot movie. 152 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:53.720 It was interesting to me. It was a cop so 153 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.439 it was cool to see that aspect of it. To 154 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:01.800 see the US four Service involved in it working alongside 155 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.720 law enforcement was a cool part of the movie for 156 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.279 me to see. Let's talk a little bit about some 157 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:08.839 of the things that are in the movie, and I 158 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.480 don't want to give away anything. I don't want to 159 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:12.879 have any spoilers here, but there is a hint of 160 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:17.160 missing persons and these cases of strange attacks and things 161 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.439 that are going on in that area. That is something 162 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.680 that runs true throughout the Bigfoot community, if you will. 163 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.480 David Polaidis has made a business out of writing these 164 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:27.920 missing four to one one books and talking about these 165 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:31.759 strange missing person cases. How did you get into that 166 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:34.039 part of it. Did you do a lot of research 167 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.360 on your own? Was that something that you just had 168 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.039 in your brain, or did you talk to some researchers 169 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.399 in the area that were into Bigfoot. How did you 170 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.879 get to that point and ultimately decide to take the 171 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:45.879 movie in that direction. 172 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.919 I did my research, I by no means how the 173 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.639 depth of knowledge of you or probably a lot of 174 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.080 your viewers as far as Big Book goes. But I 175 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.679 did do my research of looking into things, joined a 176 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.279 bunch of Facebook groups to try and figure out what 177 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:00.679 the people in the Big Book can knew you were doing, 178 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:04.039 because I, by no means was a fanatic or I 179 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.000 had been following since I was a kid, So I 180 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.080 really did try and get in there and figure out 181 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.240 what the community was all about. Then the missing persons 182 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.440 in general, there are so many missing persons from national 183 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:17.360 forest lands and things like that that it would just 184 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.320 seem once I got that backed, it seems like a 185 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.039 great tie in. And then obviously things are exaggerated for 186 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.399 the story in such a small area as far as 187 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:27.440 the disappearances go and whatnot. It was really pulling from 188 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.879 reality as far as how many people go missing in 189 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:31.320 the world. 190 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:31.679 That is. 191 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.080 Heck, what was it just a few months ago some 192 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.440 people from Portland, which is just south of me, We're 193 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:40.039 out searching for Bigfoot and they unfortunately passed away because 194 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.360 they weren't prepared. Stuff like that happens all the time, 195 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:46.200 only they're not found. So it really was led by 196 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:47.679 reality is where I came up with that. 197 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.440 And there's a big thing in the community as far 198 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.879 as the people who believe that there's some sort of 199 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.559 a government cover up. They believe the US four Surface 200 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.120 is involved in this cover up, and I've talked about 201 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:02.759 it so many times on this show and some of 202 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.159 the other shows that I host. My co host and 203 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.559 I Wayne over on that Bigfoot podcast have talked about 204 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.240 it in the past. I've never been one who subscribes 205 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.480 to this massive government cover up because I've told people 206 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.480 I was a government employee for a lot of years, 207 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.279 and you would be surprised what we didn't know. Or 208 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.799 for a huge metropolitan police department with the city of 209 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.759 Atlanta and everybody looks at them as in they are 210 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.960 one of the premier police departments across the country. In 211 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.399 my opinion, sometimes you'd just be surprised what they don't know. 212 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:35.120 You expect everybody the government, expects the government to be 213 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.720 involved in everything, and I just don't think that is 214 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.799 the case. And I certainly didn't get that in the movie. 215 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.200 But there was a couple of points. I thought, Man, 216 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.519 this cop and this US fours service guy are going 217 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:48.440 to get together and there's going to be this cover up. 218 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.360 Did you ever think about possibly going down that route 219 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.039 and making it more. 220 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:54.519 About the cover up? 221 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:57.360 Was there ever any of that rattled around in your 222 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.519 brain to maybe become a part of the movie. 223 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.279 As far as conspiracy coverups, know, that never really went 224 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.840 into my head because, like you said, I don't feel 225 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:09.919 like that. I know a large portion population don't believe 226 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:11.759 in Bigfoot, and then you have your big Foot fantics 227 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.679 that do. I was trying to base it as much 228 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.840 in reality as possible, which may sound laughable to people 229 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.080 that don't believe in Bigfoot, but the people that do, 230 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.320 it's like they have their hardcore beliefs of what they 231 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.480 believe to be true, and so I was trying to 232 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:28.240 they grounded. So I didn't feel like that was feasible 233 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.559 in our universe, and so I really wanted to go 234 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.320 with I don't know if you got this, but like 235 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.559 one of the people is more into believing of the 236 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.879 possibility that Bigfoot exists versus the other, so it's not 237 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:40.879 a secret. In the movie, the Sheriff and the Force 238 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.159 ranger are butting heads a force rangers almost laughing at 239 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.480 the sheriff because he's open to the idea that heck, 240 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.759 maybe Bigfoot is responsible for these string of murders and 241 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.440 he's open to researching that. And so that was the 242 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.840 direction I went of. That's where the tension the drama 243 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.480 comes from, is one that believes and one that doesn't, 244 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:00.440 because again, in reality, there's a lot of tension gim 245 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.399 believers and non believers, not so much conspiracy, but more 246 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.960 of just belief in the possibility of Bigfoot. 247 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.600 Yeah, and I definitely don't want to give anything away. 248 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.519 I'll just refer to I enjoyed the Henry twist. 249 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:14.759 Let's just put it that way. 250 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.000 I enjoyed the Henry twist that you guys will see 251 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.919 when you watch the movie. The other thing that stuck 252 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.720 out to me that I thought was very interesting, and 253 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.159 I wanted to have this conversation with you about maybe 254 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.279 the research that you've done into this, because this is 255 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.840 something we've done entire roundtables on this show and had 256 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.759 tons of people in the bigfoot community talking about even 257 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.360 to the point of there's a Bigfoot mapping project. This 258 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.879 guy's created an app and he looks at all of 259 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.600 the fresh reports that come in. He has looked into 260 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:46.320 the possibility of Bigfoot using caves, and I thought that 261 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:49.600 was really cool that you incorporated a cave element to 262 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.840 this movie. I think most of the people in the 263 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:56.320 community will probably appreciate that. Obviously, caves are really creepy. 264 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.159 They're creepy as hell, so they make the good creep 265 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.279 factor in any movie where you're trying to have a 266 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.840 little bit of a creep factor. That's awesome. But it 267 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:08.200 does tie into the possibility that these creatures use caves. 268 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.600 Some of us believe that obviously there's some really harsh 269 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.159 environments that these creatures are alleged to live in. You 270 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.320 get up North Pacific Northwest, you get up into Minnesota 271 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.039 and Canada and Alaska and these really cold temperatures. It 272 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:25.799 would be almost impossible for a large primate to live 273 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.559 in those environments without having some sort of shelter. So 274 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.759 the cave element was cool. How did that come about 275 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.240 for you putting this movie together, writing it and directing it. 276 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.200 Was the cave just something that you wanted to use 277 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.720 for the creep factor, or was it somehow loosely tied 278 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:43.919 into some of the beliefs that these creatures might actually 279 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:44.600 use caves. 280 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.320 It was definitely the creep factor is a big thing, 281 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:52.440 but also just in my research in thinking about personally 282 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.840 where could these creatures exist, especially in our area in 283 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:59.679 the Pacific Northwest near the Helen's area where it was 284 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.399 or Slash is an active volcano. So it was a 285 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:08.480 combination of researching into beliefs and things of where these 286 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.919 creatures could be, also what was in our area and 287 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.879 we had access to, and the creep factor. So there 288 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.879 literally are these massive lava tubes here in the sip Northwest. 289 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.919 Eight Caves is this massive national park that you can 290 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.559 go through of miles of underground tunnel. We actually did 291 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.840 film part of the film there and it's just this 292 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.440 really cool environment. So when I started writing it, I 293 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:34.360 remembered hiking that years ago, and so I was definitely 294 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.279 writing that into it. But then we found this other 295 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.639 cave which is where the final scene takes place, which 296 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.360 is closer towards Mount Adams, a little further east, and 297 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.840 it's this amazing cave that's not that wide shot of 298 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:46.679 the cave is not a VFX shot, that's a real 299 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.159 cave that we were in that we got all these 300 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:51.320 torches and stuff in it, and that was one of 301 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:53.559 my favorite scenes because it was such a cool location. 302 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.879 All the breadth on the people's mouths is all razing 303 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.000 down there. So that was a really crazy and tough day, 304 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.039 but it made for such a cool cinematic environment and 305 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:05.440 it fit to the story. So that was the part 306 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.720 of that. It wasn't just cool looking, but it helped 307 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:09.200 the story a lot. I didn't want to just do 308 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.039 anything that was fun or cool or pretty. It had 309 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.399 to make sense and fit into the story, and I 310 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:15.480 think it tied in perfectly. 311 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.320 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be 312 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:26.799 right back after these messages. Here's the thing for me, 313 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.240 and I wanted to get this directly from you. Did 314 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:32.399 you have any concerns going into the movie? Because people 315 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:35.080 love their bigfoot, right. I consider myself a somewhat of 316 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.679 a purist. Like I said, I liked the documentary style films. 317 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:40.000 I like people doing boots on the ground research and 318 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.559 actually looking into these creatures because I've had experiences of 319 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.600 my own and I have seen them, so I know 320 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.360 they're real. I know they exist. It took me a 321 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:49.919 long time to get to that point. And there are 322 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.039 a lot of people that may see this film. I 323 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:53.519 don't know what the word, I don't know the way 324 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.279 I'm trying to word this, they might see it as 325 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.000 a demonization of Bigfoot. Let's talk a little bit of 326 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:02.720 that for you, as the filmmaker, you wrote this, you 327 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:07.039 directed it. How did you want ultimately the audience to 328 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.360 come away what perception? I guess is the better way 329 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.399 to put it. I'll edit this so I don't sound 330 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:14.799 like a fucking idiot when I hit this out. Don't worry. 331 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:16.919 I guess what I'm trying to say is, did you 332 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.279 have a concern about how Bigfoot would be perceived in 333 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.639 this movie by those who watch it? And what do 334 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:26.799 you want them to take away from it ultimately as 335 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.039 far as the story goes. 336 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.360 One hundred percent? And that was one of the things 337 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.720 that I came across early on when I started joining 338 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:35.480 those Facebook groups and whatnot, when I was in the 339 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.240 writing stages and the researching pages. Is one how divisive 340 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.519 thing it is, But then two, like how people hated 341 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.840 or a large portion of the people hated the fact 342 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.519 that Bigfoot was portrayed as so evil in a lot 343 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.360 of the films, and just like a bloodthirsty maniac that 344 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.639 was going out there without trying to give too much away, 345 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:56.279 which granted there's going to be a certain amount of it, 346 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.519 I tried to handle that in a certain way that 347 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:03.080 it would be something different that you wouldn't expect, while 348 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.200 also still feeding that pore expectation. The people that are 349 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:09.519 go into watching a Bigfoot movie are expecting there to 350 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.480 be deaths and attacks and that kind of thing and gore, 351 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.039 and so I wanted a certain amount of that, but also, 352 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:17.799 like I don't you did watch the time, I believe 353 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.799 there's not a massive amount of gore. It's not a 354 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:24.519 slasher like. It's more of like a mystery thriller, trying 355 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.920 to figure out what's going on and who causes ess 356 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.599 and then it's really not till that third act that 357 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.640 you get more of that monster movie payoff or whatever. 358 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.599 But so yet I was hyper aware of how Bigfoot 359 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:39.000 in general would be accepted by the audience of both 360 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.240 believers and non believers, and so I was trying to 361 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.559 do for those who finish the whole movie and don't 362 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.960 just watch the first part, hopefully they are satisfied with 363 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:53.880 my portrayal of the creature and that he's not just 364 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.799 a total bloodthirsty animal. Is it was my goal? Now? 365 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.519 Is he still an animal? Yes? Is he still a 366 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.279 massive that could rip you apart? Of course he could. 367 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.519 So are bears, So are gorillas. They could destroy you 368 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:09.759 they're so massively muscular. So I wanted to strike that balance. 369 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:10.880 I guess. 370 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.400 The last thing here is a synopsis, if you will, 371 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.559 do you want to give us a rundown of what 372 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.359 people can expect when they check this out. Where is 373 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.519 the best place for them to find and watch the film? 374 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.920 Obviously anything else you want to tell us about the 375 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.039 film or anything else you have coming up before we 376 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.359 get out of here, for sure. 377 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.039 So Beat of Death is a mystery thriller about a 378 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:38.160 paranormal investigator and law enforcement researching this string of unexplained 379 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.839 deaths near the foothills of Mount Saint Helen's and eventually 380 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.319 these paths cross of this paranormal influencer and the forest 381 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.759 ranger and sheriff officer until their pass cross and all 382 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.000 hell breaks loose and you're trying to figure out are 383 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:54.720 these deaths caused by a person, by Bigfoot, by an animal? 384 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:57.319 You're not really sure what is happening here, and like 385 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.000 I said, it's really of a who Done it? And 386 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.119 a thriller for those first you act and then that's 387 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.720 third act is where you get into your monster movie payoff, 388 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.480 where you really are getting that bigfoot movie that people 389 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:08.839 know and love. So I wanted to do something different. 390 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.200 I wanted to do something unique, and I think we 391 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:13.880 pulled that off, especially for being such a low budget film. 392 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.519 So I hope your viewers will go and check it 393 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.119 out and give me honest reviews about what they thought. 394 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.680 You can watch it almost anywhere. It's on Amazon if 395 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:23.880 you want to rent it or buy it and not 396 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.039 watch it with ads. You want to watch it for free, 397 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.400 you can see it on two B on YouTube now 398 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.440 on our distributor's website, just search Feet of Death. You 399 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:35.880 can see it on Google Movies Awesome, so many places. 400 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.920 If you just search Feet of Death you will find 401 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:39.720