WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:14.599 Well Whiskey from power Line blog dot com and produced 2 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:16.679 by Ricochet dot com. 3 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:21.559 This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders 4 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:26.519 Steve Hayward, John Yu and power Lines International Woman of 5 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:28.879 Mystery Lucretia. 6 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:34.759 Got a given that whiskey where you're being in loud down? 7 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:38.719 Well, Hi, everybody, We've got the three Whiskey Happy Hour 8 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.920 band back together again in person, drinking Glenn Levit and 9 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.560 Maker's mark in John U's office in Berkeley. 10 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:46.640 And hot chocolate and hot chocolate. 11 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.560 You can put whiskey in hot chocolate, you know, I know. 12 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.960 And and we have a mystery guest, a very special 13 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.479 guest who's actually just lurking in the background and hiding. 14 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.159 But I think John we should out her anyway. It's 15 00:00:58.280 --> 00:00:59.679 Judge Janis Rogers Brown. 16 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.799 But hello, Hi, say hi, there goes your confirmation to 17 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.680 be Attorney General in the trunk. 18 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:08.840 A Supreme Court. 19 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.000 Well, all right, and all those things. I actually think 20 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:13.719 though that and you may want to jump in on 21 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:17.680 this Judge. We should tell listeners why they were late. 22 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.280 I put an announcement they were going to be late 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.840 with the podcast, but why we're in person? Yes, what 24 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.319 are you doing? The last three days. You want to 25 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:25.480 start and we'll correct you. 26 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.599 Guys, the audience will sympathize with me so bad. And 27 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.000 locked in a room with Steve and Lucretia for three 28 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:40.239 days arguing about natural law, I have undergone the worst 29 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.560 punishment that the civil society could ever impose on me. 30 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:48.680 Three days. There was no release, no escape. Lucretia would 31 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:49.840 not stop yelling at me. 32 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:54.959 Oh I never even got a chance to yell at you. 33 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.319 It would never allow me to wait a minute. 34 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.959 John. Three days, and how many times did I make 35 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.040 mentioned to Clean Air Act? Not one? 36 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:02.599 Not one. 37 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.159 In fact I mentioned it more than you. Sort of shocking, 38 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:07.400 you know. 39 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.639 So we offered a class for the listeners. Actually we 40 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:12.639 should offer it online, you know, because it was a 41 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.840 great class. We had a class thirty students, which was 42 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.919 triple our enrollment from last year. Right, and we went 43 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:22.479 through the different theories of how to interpret the Constitution. 44 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.039 But I would say because of my co instructors here 45 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.719 a heavy bias towards natural rights. 46 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.039 Even though I am a skeptic, I gave them full 47 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:33.759 full rain to. 48 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.719 Talk about their what could do all theories to their 49 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:37.879 hearts content. 50 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.639 I haven't even had much whiskey. Yet you would you 51 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.879 haven't either way to it yet? Really really well, you know, 52 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.800 first of all, sometime we ought to do a really 53 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:50.199 organized podcast on long economics and what we think are 54 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.319 its defects. But we want to do that an organized 55 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.360 wag otherwise it could be a train wreck like our 56 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.360 show on Prudence a few weeks ago. 57 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.400 Wow, it wasn't a train wreck. You guys were the wreck. 58 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:02.639 We were fine. 59 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.879 We were I will, I will confess. And I told John, 60 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:08.360 who doesn't look at the comments, but he counts on me. 61 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.199 He counts on me to tell him what the comments are, 62 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.199 and the commenters count on me to tell John what 63 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:18.240 their comments are. And in that particular week, they were 64 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:22.439 more pro John than they were pro lucretia. That's happened 65 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:30.000 every week. That's happened once in history, in pre human posthuman, 66 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.479 in history once and that was that week. 67 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.319 But I do I'd like to get your impressions. I mean, 68 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.719 you're around more the students than we are, John and 69 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.719 Judge Brown. If you have a sentiment or thought on this, 70 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:44.879 I thought that as the three And by the way, 71 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:46.560 we were in the classroom six hours a day for 72 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.680 three days right at least Yeah, and then yeah, lots. 73 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.319 Of listeners have felt like twenty four hours a day. 74 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.159 Well, there were lots of side conversations during breaks and 75 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:58.479 lunch and all the rest of that. I mean, it 76 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.240 was a continuous conversation three days. I did get there 77 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:05.520 very bright students, many of them are pretty liberal progressive. 78 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.639 I'd say what you'd expect here. I did think that 79 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.319 by the last day today, that the sort of tone 80 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.039 and direction of some questions, while still many very skeptical, 81 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:19.160 had changed. I thought they were sort of getting some 82 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.480 of the things we were trying to get across, and 83 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:24.240 I won't say being converted, but I thought there's a 84 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:25.120 noticeable change. 85 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.600 And the questions I got after the fact, Yes, definitely so, 86 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.759 But that may have been just because they were trying 87 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.639 to be nice. They probably felt sorry for me because 88 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:36.639 John was being so mean to me the whole time. 89 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:37.639 I was. 90 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.680 All right, well, one way, sure, I think that many 91 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:45.639 of the students had never heard any of this before. 92 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:46.000 Yeah. 93 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.839 I was particularly like natural rights, which right and is 94 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:53.519 treated as like this archaic thing that was banished with the. 95 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:54.720 Horse drawn carriages. 96 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.839 Yeah, and so actually talking about the means of thinking 97 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.240 about law and more for two thousand years was actually 98 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:07.439 rather interesting and I didn't feel guys disagree. I didn't 99 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:11.040 feel like liberal students were Rawlsians like they used to be. 100 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.439 I think they're a little bit at c they're liberal, 101 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.560 but they don't really have a guiding. 102 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:17.480 System of thought anymore. 103 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.199 They can thank the new Progressives for that, because the 104 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:24.040 new Progressives have torn down Rawlsianism, but they haven't replaced 105 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.160 it with anything just a. 106 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:31.439 Crude kind of human rights, you know, yeah, in the 107 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.399 very basic kind of crude sense of human rights. Give 108 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:37.920 you an example of a conversation I had with a student. 109 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:41.759 How can you say that there's a social contract that 110 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:48.800 should be legitimate and recognized today because who's consenting to it? 111 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.160 And how do you show consent? And I said, well, 112 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.160 one of the ways you do it is is through 113 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.399 is the right to emigrate. The fact that you can 114 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.199 leave the country if you no longer want to be 115 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:04.959 bound by the social contract and the constitution created pursuant 116 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:07.120 to it, you can leave the country. Well that's you 117 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.560 know that that that that doesn't make any sense because 118 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.000 you might be too poor to leave. 119 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.439 By the way, listeners, there were many volunteers who wanted 120 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.079 to help Lucretia emigrant voluntarily. 121 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.160 But my point is this that that rather than think 122 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:25.480 about theoretically, from the point of view, how important the 123 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:30.079 right to emigrate really is. And I said, professor you, 124 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.720 isn't it true you cannot emigrate from North Korea, you 125 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:38.040 could not emigrate from East Germany and so on. It was, well, 126 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.120 if you don't have if you're not rich, if you know, 127 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.279 if you're poor, then you can't. You don't have the 128 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.600 means to immigrate. So I said, interesting that there are 129 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:52.199 literally thousands of supposedly impoverished people who are emigrating to 130 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:57.639 the United States. I can't go the other way. Why 131 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.720 couldn't they go the other way? Sorry, please go ahead, Jim. 132 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.639 But then, but you don't believe in secession, So why 133 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:05.199 can't people emigrate out of the country and mass? 134 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.720 But I do believe in the right to revolution. Yeah, 135 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:16.079 but you don't think either, No, because Cecil emigration, it's 136 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.560 not the same as immigration. It's it's share and Amy 137 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:29.199 Schumer and let me see who else. But they say 138 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:33.639 they here's the point, they say, if this new dictator 139 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:38.959 gets into office, this horrible, autocratic, absolutist dictator gets in office, 140 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.839 I'm going to leave the country. What does that really mean. 141 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.360 It's obviously not that much of a dictator, because if 142 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.040 you can leave the country, this is not an absolute dictator. 143 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.680 Also, they never do it, so that's that's all. 144 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:53.600 I mean, that's that goes without being saying. 145 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:59.439 But I'm willing to charter the heavy Michael Moore. By 146 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.759 the way, John, this glen live at fifteen is drinking. 147 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.959 I'm yeah, yeah, because people are mad at us for 148 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.120 forgetting that. We're actually a three whiskey happy. 149 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.759 Right, So we have these so people should know if 150 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.639 they visit my office, I won't talk to you and 151 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.879 the uns you bring me a gift because I'm Asian 152 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.240 and so people have learned to bring me alcohol. 153 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.000 So I have a huge box of alcohol sitting in 154 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:23.519 my office, which is just the gifts. 155 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.839 And I have a Costco size Maker's mark and a 156 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.360 brand new bottle of glen Livett which Steve opened without 157 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:30.839 asking for. 158 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:35.679 Permission, not prior appropriation, acquisition. 159 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:43.600 Lost benefit analysis. Okay, that's very sexist of you. 160 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:45.559 I don't even know what this is. 161 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:47.879 Well, we're not going to do a whole inventory right now. 162 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.360 That's a Maderra oh from. 163 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:53.559 Yeah is that Jefferson's favorite. 164 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.759 I think so yeah, and that wine maker is actually 165 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.360 a good you know, without a video, this doesn't work, John. 166 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.159 Well, okay, but I've got really Steve Well. I'm going 167 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.360 to ask John onemore question. This will divert him. One 168 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:07.200 last question about the whole lot of econ thing. 169 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:07.879 Uh. 170 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.600 Isn't it correct to say that Ronald Coast was one 171 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.559 of the really seminal figures who started off the whole thing? 172 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:14.320 Did you ever meet him? 173 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:17.039 By the way, No, I think he Uh did he 174 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:18.480 die in like ninety one or. 175 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:21.279 Just fell asleep. 176 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:22.679 I'm not going to go on. 177 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:27.000 I met Coast might be one of the most influential 178 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.120 you know axioms in law that's been applied. 179 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.320 To love Well. I did get to medium two three times. 180 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.559 He was a member of the Philadelphia Society. He was 181 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.919 a little short guy, British and very friendly. 182 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:38.720 Uh. 183 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:41.080 And the Coast. I was going to say, we we 184 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.840 spare the students reading the problem with social cost, which 185 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:47.039 is this very dense essay. But I'll just pass along 186 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.879 that this is in some of the histories of it. 187 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.480 But I actually heard Milton Friedman tell the story that 188 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.279 you know, he presented his thesis on this is the 189 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.600 cornerstone of an economics which I'll want get into. But 190 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.720 of course, but it was he presented to, you know, 191 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.600 a workshop that included Friedman and George Stigler and the 192 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.240 Nobel Prize winner and Aaron Director and all these famous 193 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.840 Chicago economists. They start out very skeptical at the beginning, 194 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.600 and Friedman said, we were absolutely convinced he was right 195 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:15.320 by the end. It is that's an amazing I. 196 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:19.919 Can explained very quickly, but we have absolutely no context 197 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:20.879 for this discussion. 198 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.440 I don't even know what you want to go ahead. 199 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:27.080 So the basic idea of the coast theorem is UH 200 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:32.000 basically says this, no matter what the legal rule is, UH, 201 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:38.120 the arrangement of property rights will reach its most efficient outcome. 202 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.440 The only thing that changes is the distribution of wealth. 203 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.039 So the way to put it is, if you are 204 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.279 in a factory and you want a pollute in the river, 205 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.320 it doesn't matter whether the law says you can't pollute 206 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:56.200 or you can't pollute. The pollution will occur or not 207 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.840 based on whether it's efficient. Yeah, and it's just a 208 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.159 question of who gets more money. 209 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:00.519 At the end. 210 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.039 Is the factory going to keep it by polluting. What 211 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.759 does the factory pay people downstream when they pollute? Yeah, 212 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:12.759 this simple insight has been incredibly influential in the law. 213 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.440 But my problem with it always, as I said to 214 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.879 you in the class, is that it assumes that you're 215 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:23.960 making an economic only argument and you're not at all 216 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.840 considering the moral implications. Who cares about pollution? Who cares 217 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.000 about pollution one way or the other? Why is pollution 218 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.879 even an issue? Why are you? I mean you have 219 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:36.879 you begin with an assumption that pollution is somehow a 220 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.519 bad thing, and then you decide based on supposed cost 221 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.600 benefit analysis. How to you're limited to here? 222 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.600 Now Steve Hayward now the front man for polluting interests. 223 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.799 He thinks pollution is a good Now, kids, if you 224 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:52.519 keep going, I'm going to bring up the Clean Air 225 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.559 Act again. So let's move on to the first subject. 226 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.399 That will I'm sure be of more interest than our 227 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:02.120 drinking habits and our classroom habits. Uh okay, nothing happened 228 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.200 this week on in the election front. In this sense, 229 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.320 Kambella did more word salads from her word salad shooter 230 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.759 the pole. New polls came out, a ton of them. 231 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.240 They all are unchanged. They'll say it's essentially tied. 232 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.440 Was this little thing called a debate or interview by. 233 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.879 I think some desperation the. 234 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.519 Well, that's why I'm coming to the question is every 235 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.240 We've always tried to look at poles and all these 236 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.440 other things, and I talk too much about them. My 237 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.519 proposition is the body language of the election, if I 238 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.559 can use that as a metaphor, it just looks very 239 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:40.919 definite that Trump is pulling ahead. He looks confident, he's 240 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:41.720 having fun. 241 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:42.799 Uh. 242 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:45.639 I thought he killed it at the at the Al 243 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:46.360 Smith dinner. 244 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:47.159 Uh. 245 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:49.159 And he's you know, more of his rallies are happening 246 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.600 with bigger crowds and lots of enthusiasm. He's enjoying himself, 247 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:54.159 which looks to me, and that's always the look of 248 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:57.480 a winner in these presidential campaigns. I think, I don't know, 249 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:01.399 I mean, what else is there to say? I don't know. 250 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.279 I mean, I would think that, like you said last week, Steve, 251 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.120 there's internal poles, which actually costs real money, right, and 252 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:11.440 the campaigns only have and they're not really telling us 253 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:12.000 what they say. 254 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.440 But if you look at the way they're acting, yes, 255 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:15.200 you would think. 256 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:19.320 Harris's internal poles show her losing and Trump's show him winning, right, 257 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.200 so he's he looks happy he's going on. 258 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.320 I mean, I watched the clip of his appearance at 259 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:25.159 the Smith dinner. 260 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:27.919 He was having a great time making fun of people. 261 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.039 You don't do that if you're like ten points behind. Yeah, 262 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:34.000 and you would say, Harris realizes she's got to pick 263 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:36.480 up more votes because she went on Fox. Waltz has 264 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:40.440 been on Fox twice now. I mean the interview was 265 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:45.039 actually quite illuminating and that she still won't answer substantive questions. 266 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.320 But that's good for the American people to see. But 267 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.799 it also shows she's they're gambling. They're in gamble mode, 268 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.559 which you don't know if you're a head, right, And 269 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.440 it's totally contrary to their you know, play it safe 270 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:55.399 campaign so far. 271 00:13:55.759 --> 00:14:01.000 And somebody sent me what was supposedly in Insider piece 272 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:07.679 of information about Kamala Kamalama ding Dong's campaign manager, whose 273 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.320 name is Julie something or other I forget anyway who 274 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:17.519 The claim is that after the debacle of the Al 275 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.559 Smith dinner and her showing us some stupid video that 276 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:26.120 went over like rocks a Led Zeppelin, Yes, like a 277 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:30.120 Led Zeppelin that Kamala m ding Dong called up her 278 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:34.440 campaign manager and just made her cry, yelled at her, 279 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.840 screamed at her. If I lose, it's because you don't 280 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.080 know how to do your job. And da da da 281 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:42.200 da da. And so that that was yet another piece 282 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.919 of information that the whole thing is kind of imploding 283 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:45.200 a bit. 284 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:47.759 There's a detail led Zeppelin. There's a detail all of 285 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:49.679 that that does connect with one bit of news I 286 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.799 think from the last twenty four hours as we're talking 287 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:56.600 here Saturday afternoon. Part of that account who's who leaked it? 288 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.600 Part of that account is that Harris is blaming her 289 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.320 campaign manager for her decision not to go to the 290 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.799 Al Smith dinner. And the reasoning was, oh, Vice President Harris, 291 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:08.840 you don't want to get too close to Catholics. You'll 292 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.519 upset the LGBTQ two community. And that's why you shouldn't go. 293 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:20.960 The population exactly Catholic overall thirty in Pennsylvania, the must 294 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:21.639 win state. 295 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.960 Now, progressives think who is their favored people to whom 296 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.919 they listen to and bend over to. And so this 297 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.080 is something that happened here. I've been seeing this as 298 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:30.600 all over Twitter. 299 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.200 So this is not. 300 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:33.360 These accounts. We don't know how true they are, but 301 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.000 they have a ring of truth to them. At some 302 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.320 appearance yesterday, I guess it was somebody, you know, Harris 303 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:42.120 has got a crowd and all that, and somebody says 304 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.840 Jesus's Lord, and Harris stop says, oh, honey, I think 305 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.519 you're at the wrong rally. Really, let that sink in 306 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.879 for a minute. Really you want to say something like that. 307 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:53.879 I mean that sort of ratifies the problem they have. 308 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:58.799 With being a nothing else. There there are some constituencies 309 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.440 traditionally aligned at the Democratic Party who actually believe that 310 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:10.679 Jesus's Lord. I mean, go figure, what a concept? Yeah, 311 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.519 what a concept. Yeah. It really is a little bit 312 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:18.679 sad the bubble these people live in, where a vision 313 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:24.679 of America is defined by these supposedly marginalized but really 314 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:30.240 marginal constituencies that seem to drive all of their very 315 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.159 bad policies. And on that note, Steve, I'd like to 316 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:37.000 just add that I think it's been very interesting. John 317 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.159 had commented on this to me earlier too, that, or 318 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.000 maybe it was you, one of you two said the 319 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.960 sleeper issue of this campaign that was you, But John 320 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:46.919 was talking about it too. The sleeper issue of this 321 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:54.240 campaign is tapping into the what would the right word be, 322 00:16:54.799 --> 00:17:00.960 the ickiness, the achiness of the transgender movement, and the 323 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:06.559 fact that probably ninety percent of Americans are opposed to 324 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:12.039 most of the agenda of the radical transgender group. Most 325 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.920 people don't really want to be mean or cruel or 326 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.519 outright discriminatory to somebody who's transgender, but they don't want 327 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.359 to celebrate it. They don't want to see transgender men 328 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.839 in little girl's locker rooms and bathrooms. They don't want 329 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.839 to see transgender men you know that weigh two hundred 330 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.559 and eighty pounds, have been bench lifting all their life, 331 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.240 come in and compete against a woman, you know, on 332 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.920 and on and on, or kill somebody nearly a in 333 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.119 a boxing match, and the idea that somehow that's a 334 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:50.440 winning issue. Even there is even evidence now that kamal 335 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:53.160 Emma ding Dong in her campaign have to walk away 336 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:53.440 from it. 337 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.039 Well, but you can't. This is the whole thing, and 338 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.240 they're hoping that they can scrape by and not have 339 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.519 to confront it. I don't know if you you guys 340 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:01.880 were having an argument at lunch and I was at 341 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.680 the end of the table and the football game was on. 342 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:05.920 But what I figured out was we were It was 343 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.400 Berkeley versus North Carolina Wolfpack in the way we've demented 344 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:10.359 college football and. 345 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.079 Athletics, and just now they lost. 346 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:16.759 They lost Kallas. Oh boy, they'll be bad traffic. There's 347 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:17.480 a lot of. 348 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.160 Angry physicists on campus. 349 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.279 But while we're at lunch and you guys were arguing, 350 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.079 I noticed is the game was on, but we were 351 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.640 getting a North Carolina feed because I kept seeing North 352 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.640 Carolina political ads, which we won't get here in California. 353 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.279 But the newest one from Trump they had up was 354 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:35.839 talking about the trans business and the slug line at 355 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:39.680 the end was Kamala Harris is for they them, Donald 356 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.559 Trump is for you. Wow, that is real. 357 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:44.319 Why are you. 358 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:51.119 For me too? I mean so, having spent a week 359 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:56.559 in Philadelphia two weeks ago, every ad for Republicans, for President, 360 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:00.400 for Senate, for McCormick, for members of the House has 361 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.640 at the end Kamala Harris and the Democrats want to 362 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.640 use taxpayer money to pay for the sex change operations 363 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:09.640 of people in prison and for illegal aliens. 364 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.319 Every single ad has a little thing at the end. 365 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.240 Now, so they must have figured out this is a 366 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.319 real vulnerability for the Democrats because it's like they're all 367 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:18.759 hitting it as a unified issue. 368 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:20.440 Now, yeah, and it is. 369 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:24.680 I think one of those issues that the squishy middle 370 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.480 has sort of refused to pay too much attention. 371 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:29.359 To, and. 372 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.640 What this is doing is bringing it front and center. 373 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:38.400 Of course, it shows up on the publications that we read, 374 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.920 the news stations that we watch, and it's very much 375 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.039 a salient issue there. Judge Brown and I were discussing 376 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:49.920 this last night. But the average voter, even the average 377 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:54.200 kind of liberal left leaning suburban mom who shouldn't have 378 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:58.680 the vote, Sorry the suburban mom, but they're a little 379 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:03.799 bit ignor, I think, either purposely so on their port 380 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:07.359 or kind of cynically so on the part of the 381 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.480 you know, the powerful left about how extreme some of 382 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:17.680 these things really are. Or they are convinced that somehow 383 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.480 this is the trendy, happy thing to believe in, and 384 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:23.960 if they don't believe in it, they won't be accepted 385 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:26.960 at the cocktail parties, or you know, their kids will 386 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:28.640 be shunned at the soccer game. 387 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:31.079 I don't know, No, well, I think it's actually people 388 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.319 can't believe it's true. So one species of these ads 389 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:38.160 was like, it's actually true. She actually said it. Everyone 390 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.720 thinks it's like, you know, Fox or Donald Trump made 391 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.079 it up. So they produce a clip of her seeing 392 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.079 this in great detail because people I remember when I 393 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.319 first heard that in the I guess it was in 394 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:51.799 the debate, right, it was in the Trump Paris debate. 395 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:55.000 I was like, nah, we made that up. That's too 396 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:55.839 good to be true. 397 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.759 They she can't really be in favor of gender change 398 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:01.599 up orations for illegal aliens. 399 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.759 And actually, but it's actually people on death row. 400 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:07.400 And I think the New York Times wrote a story 401 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.920