Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Oh oh oh sorry, I'm a sleeping here.
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Oh? Trust yeah?
Speaker 2: Trust yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, hell ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to trous
told you I am your host, the returning the clown
Prince of podcast, the man who's death and retirement has
been greatly over exaggerated.
Speaker 2: I'm Travis now an old boy.
Speaker 1: It's good to feedback. Yes, ladies, gentlemen, I am here
after a long stint two and a half months, I
think longer. Maybe I can't remember my last whatever my
last cast was, but uh, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm back on Geek first.
Speaker 1: Obviously I had done the Gimmick, you know, a wrestling show,
but that that's something that you know, I own completely myself.
Get away Geek first. But I was on the Gimmick
and then did one episode of Marble Alliance, but that
was about it.
Speaker 2: I did two and a half months. It's been my
longest break.
Speaker 1: I think. Any other time I've had kids been the summer.
There's always been like, oh it's Comic Con coming up,
or our tenure or something like that, and only a
couple weeks break. I think because like, luckily you know.
I think we're half decent parents. Emily fantastic mother. So
it's always been like, let's see how it goes. And
it's like, okay, well we uh we figured out back
to podcasting. Oh but now with the twins, needed a
little bit more time, and thank goodness for a lot
of things. But yes, two a half months, lophill you
and Emily she's like, oh, you're gonna jump on one
these times.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I.
Speaker 1: Was ever close. I was never close as far as
uh like missing out. I'll get to that in a second,
because I did miss podcasting, but didn't in the same way.
And I'll get to why I'm back. Don't get me wrong.
I'm here, love it, excited to be doing it again.
It's not that it's more like a life thing, being
busy and going back to the job, like the other
job later on this week. So there's tons of stuff,
but let me just get this out there. Yeah, so
as usual late night podcasting with myself and start off
right there. Wichras told you, I'm assuming I'm gonna at
least do once a month. My plan right now is
to do at least three casts a week, and then
if there's anything that are, you know, super Bowl, Comic Con,
that type of stuff. Then I will go, okay, maybe
I'll slide another one there, but I want to keep
to three because obviously we are very busy with everything
that goes on with our kids, now with the twins,
now with life, job, the podcasting, filmmaking.
Speaker 2: Everything like that.
Speaker 1: Just want to have a hobby, play a video game,
go to the gym, stuff like that. But you know,
a big thing, thank you to one because I took
pretty much a social media break. I went on every
once in a while, especially when I talked to the
g A and the Gimmick Boy.
Speaker 2: So you see stuff.
Speaker 1: And then near the past couple weeks are been you know,
sneaking back on seeing some takes here and there, and
plus the good tweets on linksy to you. Okay, but
for the most part, try to go cold turkey for
a little bit. And yeah, even Emily, I think she
was like, oh, I don't think you're gonna make it,
and I did.
Speaker 2: So there's two things I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: One, when I announced it that the twins were here,
a big thank you to everyone that sent your well wishes.
Let's get rid of that's starting soon. Bare Yeah, we're back.
I'm taking off the Batman rope. See, people probably think
I'm lazy, like, oh, he's just wearing a robe on air.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Nah, it's just for the bit. Even though it is
fucking right here this there's a window right here, it
is freezing. It's negative seven right now. The warmest it
supposed to be this week is negative nine. It's brutal
out there. But a big thank you to everybody that
sent the well wishes when the twins came here. And
then a bigger thank you to everybody that thought when
I was retiring or gone. Lots of concerned people, you know,
offse that was greatly exaggerated to a point. I was
attacked and there's a whole bit to go on that
because someone from Gievers did it or someone paid someone.
I'm gonna get down to the bottom of it. I
did kick Taylor and the balls this weekend. That's just
for a life of many things. He probably did it
or had pant soolo paid somebody to put this mask
on and do it. That's gonna be like a month investigation.
But I've signed my new contract. I'm back and I'm here.
I ain't going anywhere, and we will get down to
the bottom that I was gonna come back. Then I
got attacked. But for the people that did think I
was going away, I did very much appreciate that because
it's just like, you know, like I guess it's the
same thing as people that listen to Trass told you
where it's great to know that, Okay, there are some
people that care about what I do here and same
thing there. It's one of the things that hey, if
I was gone, you know, would anyone care?
Speaker 2: You know? I think that's a mean you know.
Speaker 1: Things people do in movies and stuff like oh if
I die, well, god, what was There's some cheesy like
it's a crazy anatomy episode or something I can't remember,
Oh yeah it is. When Addison is like, if I
went missing, no one remember, no one looked for me,
and Creb's like I would, I'd look for you, and
they slept together and then it didn't work out. But
either way, the sentiment was there, right, and that's where
the sentiment was for myself where I appreciate everybody that
did reach out that said, hey, good luck on a
separate journey or their bum that is going anywhere, or
even before I announced, where they announced, or whoever announced
that there was a retirement said like, oh hey, you know,
I can't wait to have you back on. I do
appreciate that, and I think that's uh was one of
the nicest things is in my absence that people reached
out and said very nice things, more than I would
have thought, and nicer than I would have thought, because
you never know, you say, I could go away and
geek Versus is great. You know, I got three other
great hosts, been doing a long time. But it's great
to know that. Okay, people would still listen to keep versus.
But going, oh man, it does suck a little bit,
that trashler. So you know the SI field, you like me,
you really like me. That's what happens. You know, some
of you showed your cards. You give me shit, you go,
oh man, get out of here, because you know, sometimes
I've healed up. But no, I appreciate and I have
a new appreciation for all of you, and new appreciation
just for time in general. But so yeah, I am
here as usual. Everything you need to know is down
below all the links. I'm excited to get back to
hosting newscast because Taylor Field. My god, that's why he
deserved the balls. Tail Field, I always say, heart of geek. First,
love the guy. We'll get into newscast, some of the hosting,
some of the notes. When he asks about news, et cetera.
I go, man, he is like Ron Burgundy and I
will get into it. And I was just sitting there like,
oh my god, like pull my hair out. What's this
man doing? You know, dealing great, Kirkling great, you know,
Kirkling constantly getting stuff wrong about Dexter, constantly call me out.
That's the times where I want to jump on love
telling it back was. I haven't listened to ever cast
since have been gone, but some of the shows I'd
be watching and I've been behind on multiple shows. But
when I catch up, I'd listen to review here or there.
Kirkland and maybe he kept tacking me. I don't know,
but Kirkland like poking the bear. Uh.
Speaker 2: He always they were trying trying.
Speaker 1: To get me back on, and I appreciate that, says
the Future.
Speaker 2: Devor's tweet with the black white photo was the best.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. Everyone go watch it's on our YouTube page.
The return of Trauss. Now I had a lot of
fun making that video. I did have a lot of fun.
I did have a lot of people message me being
genuinely messed. It was close to thirty people that were
genuinely messing with me, and some I talked about what
was going on. Some I kept on unleash a little bit,
even had Taylor. Tay was gonna say no, but there
was a day where you know, he thought I was
gone gone, But uh again, I very much appreciate that,
but uh yeah, I'll be back on news this week.
We got the drafts coming up. We got a lot
to catch up on, so I'll be back in the rotation.
Like I said, three to four Traves told you, I'm
gonna right now just promise to do it a monthly.
What I wanted to do before the Twins were coming
is make it kind of like a special cause we
do our newscast. We're gonna bring back weekly geek because
there's just been so much news lately that we just
we get loaded up. So I want to do like
my Actors Tournament or other things. Because before too, it's
like I used to talk about wrestling and you know,
check out the gimmick. Me and David and s Pubs
just did two episodes last month, and the Royal one
was tons of fun. So if you like wrestling and
the wrestling season, go check that out. We'll probably be
doing a few more than once a month. We're gonna
be doing a gaming stream for gmod.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: There's some fun stuff happening with that show. So that's why,
like I said before, Tress told you he's like, well,
if news is covered and wrestling's covered, like what am
I doing now? And that's why, whether it's something very
specific to Travis or a topic, I'm gonna do at
least once a month, but maybe I guess said before,
if I miss something, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And then how's the time off? Again?
Speaker 1: To thank you everybody, I have some topics I'm gonna
talk about. Some i'm gonna leave for newscast reviews, stuff
like that, and then some I'll touch upon today and
some that people had sent in. I thank you to
everybody had said welcome back and asked how life was.
Life is good this past week not so much. Everybody
took turns being sick. I don't know if we had
like a little mini version of COVID, because I don't
even know if I ever got Like anytime there's a test,
I never got it. There was times where I felt
like I could have been coming home, but it just
would go away.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And luckily this is the thing is I work from home, right,
so it's not like a oh shit, I might have COVID.
What do I do. It's like, well, you just sit
at home and you quarantine other people, keep away from people, right,
So I don't know if we have that. And I
had all these plans this week, like I was supposed
to my hair. I was gonna do the Punisher Season
two Daredevil buzz cut. I want to do that, like
the Army cut. Didn't get to do that. I was
supposed to have a bunch of cool lights. But I
do have video listeners. Look at this the Dafoe Goblin
mask on newscast. Try it on air helmets and stuff.
They suck like replicas everything. This is one of the
most comfortable, easy to wear helmets. It like it detaches
and then you open up and it's like and you
put it on, it goes right around your head so
it stay. It stays on your eyes too, so it's
not like moving up and down and there's cushions back there.
It is so comfortable. I think I'm gonna do it
for Halloween something I don't know, because in a couple
of years we're gonna do Me and Emily will do
Jack and Wendy from the Shining and the Twins of
course of course will be the ghost Girls. Right, but
this helmet on news, I'll talk about it. It perfect
And I love this because I always want this for
the cast, and it's like, oh, there's the thumbs up.
It's like the you know, gobble mass over the shoulder talking.
So but this last week that's why if you if
I sound a little stuffy, it was.
Speaker 2: It was brutal.
Speaker 1: They were sick from I think it started like Thursday Friday,
and I started. I went from like a really sore
throat for a day that one way, and then a headache,
bad headache for day and all like variations of stuff
knows and the like really stuffy tons of coughing. And
then since I think like Tuesday, I've been on the
men and feeling better but sucked.
Speaker 2: I had like a few things I wanted to get
done and I just.
Speaker 1: Couldn't I didn't have the energy for it, and we
just couldn't go because we were sick. And then the
girls literally spent the entire home, retire week home from
school because they had temperatures couldn't go. So that kind
of sucked, and the twins got a little bit sick.
But so the immediate sucked. But how am I doing
elsewhis Hell's twin life going?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I will say to that, I will have a new appreciation,
you know, because the first person I messaged when I
found what the twins was my great friend Chris Bago, who, like,
I don't know if he wants me to say this,
but the guy's a fucking principle, Like congratulating the man
he got to he went from vice principal principle Like
what that Like what a huge honor that is for him?
Speaker 2: But that school's very lucky.
Speaker 1: Chris is one of the best guys I know out there,
so that offsee's never taught me. But he's talking a
lot of other things in life. But I message him
and talked a little bit twins stuff and that helped.
But it you are not prepared, it's it's funny. We
talked about this where what would we have rather done
twins first and then the other babies would have felt easy,
or did the three babies get us ready for the twins,
because it is a whole another thing.
Speaker 2: It is I've never.
Speaker 1: Been That's why the profile picture you can look at it.
I've never been more exhausted. And there's a bunch of
other stuff too, because the first week lots of when
I say, hell scared, they're miners, So don't worry anything
that was I'm going to talk about in the future.
It's nothing that you need to say, oh, you know,
Holly doing storry. It's like they're all out of the woods now,
all doing great. But the first week there is and
I don't even want to say complications because that's stuff
that There's even worse stories while I was in the
nicku that I was hearing my God like it. It's brutal,
but it is tiring because it is usually it is
you got a handoff, you take shifts. So I don't
mean this in any offense, but anybody that ever is like, man,
we're having a tough time with one child. The only
people I accept that from is single parents. If you're
a single parent, then it's you alone with the kid,
baby whatever. Right, but if you've got a partner, or
if the partner is out of town. Right, but if
it's if you've got a partner, a good partner, non
nasshole partner, if you have a good partner that can
support you. I can never look in.
Speaker 2: There and I think, oh, yeah, you're tired. Eh oh
it's hard.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like this has been something and a kudos to
anybody like this where I would the same thing they
could do to me if anybody's had triplets in their lives.
Fuck man, Like it's enough with both of us. Because
even right now where there is the first time I'm casting,
and I'm like, it's just spectacular. She's the best. I
love her, loved my life, just multiple facets. She's been
very supported. She even was like even kirkl and Taylor
bugging her a bit, but she was like, you can
go on, you can go on earlier.
Speaker 2: But I was like, no, I want the break.
Speaker 1: I want to take as much time because I haven't
been working my other job as well either. So this
was the first thing where it's like, Okay, we're gonna
sit you up in the room. You get the double bottles. Here,
we go and then the second we sit down there
just losing it. And that's where it's like, oh, well,
and that's what can happen. It's not just one and
you know they can set each other off very twin tuition.
So at least you know we've found it's you know,
two and a half months or two months with them
two months and a couple of weeks of them being
you know, alive and they're you know, growing, and you know,
we got the rhythm down, find like, okay, this is
what you do this one, et cetera. That the thing
is though, like I couldn't imagine at least when I'm
at from majority of time and the good thing I
work at home, we can still be a tag team, right.
I could not imagine someone having a third time and
be like we literally don't have enough hands like.
Speaker 2: We don't have enough.
Speaker 1: And luckily my kids are fantastic, a little too fantastic
because they always want to touch, hold, you know, not
wake them up, but they don't understand like you're gonna
be quiet. But they're great big sisters and they're always
fighting over who gets the feed what, And yeah, it's great.
If I haven't even said the oldest, the one that's
two minutes older, Sydney Heart Snell, and then the youngest
and the last of the Snell trajectory. Because that water
main is now closed, we're stopping at five. The plans
will stop at four, so five was a bonus. Valerie
wren Snell, Sydney Art Snell comes from Sydney is and
we just like the name. I like Scream, which I
guess I'll talk about a little bit later, which sucks,
but like that original stuff, like name Sidney Prescott is
probably my favorite. Final girl. We'll see what these new
movies do, but I'm just gonna think about the trilogy,
right heart. You guys probably knows Brett Hart. That's where
it came from. We eventually I remember which one had.
We had May as a middle name, but the combo
of May Snell sounded way too much like May smell.
Emily said that, and I was like, oh, we can't,
we can't do this. That's like like we both said that.
This teasing right away, and then Valerie ran stell people.
I think I hinted about this. We'd never like to
reveal names just for luck. I always said, hey, if
I have a boy, we're gonna name it Kylo, and
she was down for that. Never got Kylo, never get
a boy. So that's where Wren came in there. We
just liked it. And then Valerie just another name. We
just like we love the Amy Winehouse song. I know
it's a cover, but still, so those are the semblance
of the names. And yeah, so they came. It was
the first time doing a C section, so that was
a lot like it was a lot of first for us.
It was the first twins for C section, and because
it was twins, there's so many doctors and then so
they get them all out and get them all but
one comes out, second comes out. And so Sidney was fine.
She was like kind of a small, like like a
smaller baby for us, just like regular baby. And then
with Valerie she came and they had talked to us
before because they had said, like, hey, she's smaller, and
that was some of the concern for the last three weeks.
I think I talked about on Originals where I was
stressed up High Heaven because they're like, she's small, and
there's like all these variations of like if she's small
to this point, it can lead to here and that's
not good yet. So luckily, by time we got to labor,
it was like, okay, she's smaller, but things are still
looking good, but we might have to take her to
nick U. That's like a common procedure, right, so go okay,
that happens. Emily's a champ with the C section. She's
been a champ the whole time, like going through the
pain everything. She's just a boss for me. And what
happens is so Sidney gets put somewhere else in values
gonna go to nick you I mean with her at
first though, and it was funny because like Sydney is
like if you're a see her, she's like a regular side,
like just a baby, like a small baby. But next
to Valerie, she's like massive, you know, She's like she
just she's literally three pounds bigger than her now and
like I said, now they're all healthy, but valeriees at
like she's gonna be small. She's not on like the
trajectory of other babies. She's healthy. It's like she's just
gonna be small. Maybe she'll catch up. But so they
bring Valerie out and it's about the breathing, right, So
at first they go okay, it just looks good.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I don't even think she needs to go.
Speaker 1: It's like okay, great, and then they go, okay, well
we're just and then like time goes on because they're
working on Emily, working on the twins everything, and it's
so much of here, take a picture, here, do a wait, here, Dad,
do this, and it's just like all over already. I
was like, man, twins, And that's what happens all the time.
You just look and you're like two babies, Like what
I do? Sometimes you just I luckily don't shut down.
I just okay, back to work. And that's where I
think having the kids beforehand helps. I think if I
didn't have the other kids before, you might just shut
down and go like what do I do? This is
a battle I can't win. But anyway, so VALI like, okay,
we think we're gonna take her down just to check,
and you're like okay, and get down there and you're
like okay, it's gonna be about an hour and you're
like okay, and they're like now it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be about four hours and you're like okay.
Speaker 1: And the problem was it was her breathing was the
issue and then like, well, she's gonna stay overnight.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: A lot of this is because there are some other
things can happen, but that's one thing where it's like
them saying this stuff. You put these conditions of like
okay and or four hours, and then when it's not happening,
you're like you're thinking the worst. And it's one of
these things where like when I'm watching because Emily's was
sinning and I'm in the nick you with her with
a Valerie, and I'm watching and she's like breathing, and
I'm like, oh, that's good, Like she's breathing, because for
a while it was like that's the thing, like we've
got to watch the breathing, right, So I'm trying to
watch and I see her just breathing, like, oh my god,
she's breathing. That's good, and they're like, no, that's not good, Like.
Speaker 2: You don't only breathing like that.
Speaker 1: And just because I we luckily with all the other girls,
never had that like the old natural births, no problems,
no issues, anything like that, so this was all new
for me, right, So we had to do that. And
I don't know if I posted the picture, maybe shit
at some point, but they had uh, she was in
and it was tough. The whole experience this week. The
first week was very tough for me. She was in
like a chamber thing, and she had like all these
wires on her stomach, on her heart, on her lungs,
she had a two in her mouth, she had a
two bitner nose for like feeding stuff. It was it
was tough for me because I know they'd prepare you
for that, but for me, it was tough where it's like, oh,
you know, just a couple hours and then you think
because in my mind it's like, oh, they say a
couple hours, she'll be good. We've reached a couple hours,
she's not good. She's staying and now she's staying overnight.
And that's where it was very brew where she has
to stay there and they got to watch the breathing
and that was probably and luckily it all worked out.
But some of the you know, barring a death's like
some of the worst time in life is like okay,
I can't remember what it was. It was like here's
the number and the breathing can't go above this or
below this. I can't remember it was because it was
just like I got no sleep. It was just me
looking at this monitor and when it hits the wrong thing,
it would just like beep. It's tough because they would
come by and be like, oh, don't worry about the beeping.
But one, it just triggers you. You can't sleep and
you're just worried all the time. And two it's like,
don't worry about the beeping. It does that. But then
there's times like the beeping you do have to worry about,
but it's like the exact same sound. So you don't know.
Because I'm an army, right, so I just remember all
night I'm sitting in the chair and just looking at
this monitor. Might get some sleep every once in a while.
But when I'm like and a shout out to the
doctors and nurses all great people, right, but there's sounds
like the doctor coming. I'd be sleeping and she's like,
how are you doing? I wake up and she oh no, no, no,
you go back to sleep. You you can sleep. But
it's like, then why did you touch my? Shout and
say how are you like, and I'm like dead to.
Speaker 2: The I'm I'm a skeleton.
Speaker 1: I'm laying there, you know, like clearly I'm asleep, so
it's just funny like wake me up, like oh no, no,
go back to sleep. So that was really tough, like
it was a real like I I was there's a
couple of nights. My little Emily I think handles that
stuff better than me, and it was it's just tough
because I wont to rather and it was really it
was weird to be like, hey, we're having twins.
Speaker 2: What's it gonna feel like?
Speaker 1: For the first forty eight hours, it.
Speaker 2: Didn't really feel like we had twins because like Emily was.
Speaker 1: In her room over there, and then I was nicky
and I don't go back and forth, but I didn't want
to leave her there alone.
Speaker 2: So and same thing with Emily. Emil didn't get to
see her for I can't.
Speaker 1: I think she saw her once and twenty four it
was like that, here's Valerie, we take her and then
it was a long time later until she got to
see her again, and she I think handle a lot
better than me. But it was really tough. So it
was like I have another child, you know, in a
ward that I don't I haven't even.
Speaker 2: Seen or help.
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, you have two children, So it's
like a we're and everyone's talking to you and they're
trying to be reassuring and everything. And that that was
the tough thing too, is once eventually Value started to breathe,
while they're like, okay, well we want to do feedings, right,
so Emily somewhere else and then she's you know, Emily
Sydney different ward mean.
Speaker 2: Valory a different ward.
Speaker 1: So we got to either walk her, which they want
her to walk sometimes, or even wheelchair. But it was
tough because like you have to feed Sydney, get all
the way over there, get all her wires and everything,
feed her, and then get back. And the whole time
they're like, make she get rest. Make sure your sleep
sleeps the most important thing. But it's like by the
time we offended everything back and forth, we've been sitting down.
It's like you got forty five minutes till we have
to start again. Especially with Valerie, was like, well they
got to be three hour, Like it has to be
three hours.
Speaker 2: We got to get this going all to help.
Speaker 1: So it was that stuff was brutal, right. So but
luckily and what was brutal too is this is where
i I'll like completely downplay and we luckily, like it
went up, the breathing got better, everything like that. But
they are another group in there, another like parents that
were waiting for like a transplant for their kid, and
there's another I don't know what the situation was, but
there's another baby where it was out of the woods now.
But they're like, oh yeah that like whatever the date
of the they said something, and they're just like, your
your guy's situation is the ones we have nightmares about.
And I'm just sitting here, I'm going, okay, one, I
do have it better, luckily, but it's also just like
I'm in the nikki with these people. It's like you
start to do that of like all these people have
really bad shit going on and I'm here, does that
mean like this could turn to really awful shit? And
luckily it didn't, but it was like it was a
very tough forty eight hours. I've never been so mentally exhausted.
And also no sleep there and like the food's awful,
and thank god for my family and system people that
would bring food and everything, but some days you don't
even want to eat, so it was awful. So everything
it's fine. We eventually get them in the same room,
and then it just gets like all I can just say,
it's very tiring. It's like every like feeding, cluster feeding,
being awake, two of them everything. Luckily you do try
and get them on the same schedule, but it's still
just like no one gets a break. It's not like
now we kind of there's sometimes where I'm like, hey
and we can sleep. I can handle it too, or
Emily we'll do vice versa, right, but at the beginning
it it's very tough. So we get to go home
and and that was a little if you on because
they're like, you're in the nick you you got twins,
You're gonna be staying least to the weekend, right, So
it's like on a Thursday or Wednesday, tell us this,
and then Friday rolls around and they're like, yeah, we
think you're gonna go home, and it's like okay, and
I'm again taking that as I guess Vali's doing really well.
And then I can't remember what it said, but some
nurse it's something where it definitely like me and Emily
picked up on. I was like, Okay, it's being like
it's because it's overcrowded. It's not because like that oh
she's great, great, good to go. It's like no, she like,
we're very busy and we think you guys are good
to go. So that's something where it's like, Okay, if
it works out, that's fine, but what it doesn't work out?
So we have them on the Wednesday, I'm in the
nikki Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday she does come over, and then
Friday we're out of there, and then we're home for
Saturday and Sunday. Then I can't remember if fits, and
then I think, yeah, Monday, okay, so we're home Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
And I only told a few people about this. So Saturday,
you know, fine, we're just at home, living life, same
thing a bit Friday night, trying to figure it out.
The girls were in Vernon, so this is they were
very excited to see them. We were very excited to
have them home. We were missing them. They're gonna be
coming back the Monday. So what happens is the Sunday
is I'm not sure it works in America or Britain,
but like they have home nurses that come in and
check the babies right, make sure everything's going all good.
Speaker 2: They come, they do the weights and everything.
Speaker 1: They like, go, okay, Valley's losing weight, which is not
what you want because she's already a small kid who
had breathing issues, right, so it's like she's losing weight.
Speaker 2: And let's see.
Speaker 1: I actually think it was like she hadn't gain wait,
so it's like, Okay, we're gonna come because usually like weekly,
but this was like we're gonna come back tomorrow and sea,
so come back tomorrow the Monday, and that's when they go, okay,
she's actually losing weight. And we were doing everything, the feeding, everything,
but it was tough with her because she was so little,
and there's some jaunas too where she would fall asleep
and that was tough too. Is just trying to keep
her awake and feed. Now it's warm up a bottle,
boom feed, you know, ten fifty minutes per get it ready,
good to go. I can't remember how long these feeds
were because she would have a little bit and fall
a sleaf hello, And you don't want that because it's
just like, well, if you're not eating, like you're gonna
get sick. You're not like you're not gonna make it
without little You're so the night nurse talk to our doctor,
and then our doctor's literally like, you guys, gotta go
right back to the hospital, like and not to like, oh,
just for a check up. It's like pack a bag
and it's all ready to be And everyone, if you've
had a kid or just be in the hospital, you
know what it's like to be in the hospital and
then just want to get home. And then to get
home is just such a relief, right. It would have
been different if it would have sucked. But if we
would have been there from Wednesday to Wednesday in the hospital,
that would have sucked, but.
Speaker 2: It would have been better that relief of getting home.
Speaker 1: And of course we're going to the hospital because we
want to you know, the best for our children, right,
but to get home and be in your own bed
and try and get a routine, and same thing for
me is like we were finally like a family a
unit because it's like, okay, we're all together finally now
after a couple of days back and forth and stuff.
Speaker 2: So we go back to the hospital.
Speaker 1: We gotta go to emergency and this is where it's
just like I fucking hated every second of everything that
went on.
Speaker 2: There is a funny story in the middle.
Speaker 1: But so we get in there and luckily we get
fast tracked in because the doctors said, like, obviously it's
a you know, three day old baby who's losing weight
that already had some issues. Get them in and here
we go. So they stripped them down everything and they
put them in these warming chains, which they liked. It
was it was it was brutal because they had to
put the two They had to put the twos back
in her, and when the first go round it was
fine because not fine, but like she was small, so
it's just like very easy.
Speaker 2: This is like a couple of days of life. I'm feeding.
Speaker 1: So it was brute because it's just like and it's
just valor because city was fine. They're checking up on her.
They said, oh, just bring her in so we can
take a look too, but like it's just like squealing.
At one point she pulled out, so I had to
put it back in and tape and it was really
tough for me because you're just hearing like this baby just.
Speaker 2: An immense pants, same thing.
Speaker 1: It was like that was the thing too, of like
getting all these wires offering everything's like, okay, she can
finally be like a little baby.
Speaker 2: Kid, you know, like normal, and then it's like back this.
Speaker 1: So it's all this stuff where I'm just and I'm
mad because, like I said, now in retrospect, I'm playing
it back in my head of like knowing it's overcrowding
while we got sent home, not because it's like oh,
like I'm sure she was. I guess good enough, but
it's like that's making me more mad because I'm jumping
some beats in the story. But then, so what happens
is they go, Okay, well, you know, because Emily's had
CEA section, she's not supposed to you know, drive, she's
not supposed to lift things other than the babies even then,
not supposed to do all this stuff. So their solution
as well, you know, how about Valerie stays here, Dad
stays here, Mom goes home, And it's just like the
beginning when they're like, make sure you get as much
rest as possible, but we need you to do this,
this and this. It's like, well, there's only so much
we can do. So it's the same thing of like, okay,
you want her to go home alone?
Speaker 2: With like day.
Speaker 1: Three said, you know, four or five with the post
c section, huge traumatic surgery to the body and me
to be here.
Speaker 2: Luckily my mom, I feel don't know.
Speaker 1: We live in a big house and my mom has
moved in downstairs helped with twins. Has been a godsend
and that helped out a lot because she drove and everything,
and it's been great for just like payments wise, everything
has been great. It's been the kids love Hanna. Here
has been a great situation. So we do this and
so it's like, you're gonna sleep her, and then the
kicker is, oh, but we don't have any rooms. So
what I gotta do me because obviously the Emily's not
gonna do this. We're gonna sleep in this room. That's
like I I'm terrible with U measurements. But the size
of it was it was like this background here. It
was looking like just a square version of this. And
I got a stretcher to sleep on, brutal And it's
also like, I'm dead tired mentally, I'm dead tired physically.
I'm gonna have this terrible sleep on the stretcher. And
then the same thing, she has all these tubes in
her I got a feeder of and of course I'm
gonna do it, but she has all these tubes in her.
She's in like the jahn is. I can't remember what
it is, but it's like this new chamber where they
put her in on all these lights are on her
to get the jaunie out of her because that could
make her fall asleep or you know, lose weight, all
this stuff. So that's where it's like, oh man, this
is brutal and being in the er. It's just because
they shift change so much and they're going back round.
They will be like, Okay, Emily and Travis tell us
why here beginning to end go and then literally fifteen
minutes later, new doctor K tell us why we're here? Go?
And I talked Dellian. She made a good point where
it's like they do that so they don't think you're
lying or making something up or whatever.
Speaker 2: It may be right, but I'm not lying.
Speaker 1: When we at least had I think it was seven
maybe at least six different doctors within an hour and
a half, and it's just we would tell the same story,
and luckily Emily took over because I I had enough
of it. And it's just like we have a file.
All these doctors would write the same thing. They'd leave
and then it starts over again, and you just feel
like you're not getting help. And I'm definitely the person
that responds again. Another grays Name reference the Christina Yang character,
where it's not like the person has no heart and
just wants to get to the medical stuff. I actually
do better with that. I don't like, especially in this moment.
I'm stressed. I'm sitting there crying because I don't know
what it's gonna hap with my daughter. She's getting she's
like getting this tube and she's in a bunch of pain,
Like a bunch of stuff's going on for me mentally right,
And they're trying to be like, oh, five kids, Like
I know some people might like that. I don't. I
don't want the small talk. I don't want to do that.
So at one point I was really rude to one
nurse and like because they're like I'm there, I'm a
hole in Valariees and I'm crying. She's very distressed, and like, oh,
and how's dad doing tonight? And I didn't say a
f I just looked at her and didn't say if
I were And I'm like, oh, like, you know, it's
been a tough go Emily, you know again, my rocket
is I was just over like and it's also just
like you gotta the room. You see him upset. Maybe
I have a different approach. I'm not there to small talk.
Just help my fucking kid and let's move on. And
that's where I'm completely fine. You don't need the bedside
man or you don't need my friend. Just tell them
what's going on. So again, in this emergency room and
the emergency room, same thing. It's like we're in the emergency,
we're in the r So it's it's you have a
sly door, buz it's loud. It's things are going on
just like before we got admitted beside us. Oh my god.
So that's the only saving grace where this is all happening.
This is, you know, traumatic stuff for me and next
to us, me and him, I can hear, you know,
because it's like a curb. It's occurring in like a
couple of feet right of a door. So like there's
also another room and this is this guy talking about
he's at a restaurant. He got some steak stuck in
his throat and he can't it's lodging and he can't
get it out. And they're doing all these things and
then so what they're gonna do. They're gonna vacuum it out.
So while we're just sitting there dishovel right like all
we're getting re emitted. We're getting split up again. We'd
finally got back together and were getting to split up again
for a few days. They have the tube and they
put the two. We're not seeing this, we're just hearing
this and like, okay, it's gonna hurt a lot. Let's know,
the most horrid sounds. You've made her sound like a
saw trap. She just okay, listen to that. Oh I'm
like near.
Speaker 2: The steak coming.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, I'm still gonna recall that. You can
just hear the steak getting sucked this man's lungs and
he is an immense physical pain. I mean he's sitting
there trying not let but it was horrid of just
we're watching our kids.
Speaker 2: It was awful.
Speaker 1: They got it out luckily, and his mom did come thick,
come up, but it was it was brutal, so a
little shine light. But then eventually we did get there,
and of course the er when we get the pediatrics,
Oh you guys, said twins and were NICKI why are
you home? Why are you home? And like they're not
saying that in accusatory thing, They're like, why are we
sent home? It's one of these things where likely if
someone else would been there or someone made a call,
it would have been great. Soone would be like, maybe
you know, we're overcrowded, but we maybe can't send these
people home. So I was mad, and I you know,
that went to my family. My dad, who was worked
in this field before, he's like threatening to come down
because he knows people k and this is that love
my dad.
Speaker 2: Luckily I didn't enact that I did.
Speaker 1: There was a day at m I'm like, hey, if
I get bullshit around one more time, because it just
felt like I knew something was It's like, oh, we're
going home, so yeah, you're good to go, but it's
like I knew, like I don't know about this, and
you know, I'm trusting nurse doctor majority, I'd say like
ninety percent of them all great, very helpful, right, but
that's where I am. My dad was Okay, I have
a point, and luckily I was like I'm gonna come
in and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go do this, this and this. But I'm like no, no,
hold off.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did because eventually we so we're in
I was in same thing too. It's like, I'm in
this emergency room, terrible sleep. Get there in the morning,
like yeah, eight am, you're gonna get a room, and
that's like, we don't get a room till two. And
that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I wish they would just not give me any update.
Speaker 1: It's like eight am and then I'm waving there and
am packed my stuff, ragal with my baby. I don't
see anyone till like ten and I get it right,
it's the emergency. As of right now, Valari's vitals are fine,
they're doing well and everything like that. But still, just
like I've heard from nobody where that that's not the
case when you have a room the doctors, because you're
on the war and you have like the round stuff emergency,
you're just going going going, So that gun annoying. And
then we got up there, and then eventually Emily came
to visit, and then they just said, yeah, you're gonna
be here a few more days. But then she did
stay in the room and then we got a room together.
They're like, oh, you might have to share it, which
is always a bad situation. Luckily we didn't have to
because we had no curtain. And then eventually all this
stuff happened and she is a okay, she's very tiny,
she's on the smaller side, but all worked out. But
for that week, it was the Wednesday to Wednesday where
we home for you know, two days, and it was
all hospital time and all like bad hospital time, and
it was very It was definitely the toughest thing I've
had to go through yet. I know there's tougher things
I'll have to go through eventually with obviously you know,
certain people passing their life things like that, but as
right now that that was a lot for you to
handle all at once. And again kudos to parents that
had definitely had Like I said, I couldn't make like
the people in there waiting for their kid to get
a transplant, their kids there there every day until like
the babies there every dayun til it happens. It's like, fuck,
that's that's so much worse of what I'm going through.
So again, I that's why perspective, right I say worst
thing I've ever been through. There's so many other people
there that's like probably that what I went through is
walk in the park. But like I said, I'm a baby.
I never went through any of that stuff for the
other kids, right, So but luckily everyone's good now we've
gone to the doctor checks and when these good babies
were good. So it's all on the up and up now.
But that was that was my first week where it
was just it was tough and the same thing that
like and we really want to see the girls. That
was very tough on amally not seeing the girls, and
it was the same thing of like not today, not today,
not today, and they want to see us if we
want to get back and rode a routine and uh yeah,
it was uh, it was something.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a tough time.
Speaker 1: You know, tried to have as much less as possible
a steak guy and it was great to have the base,
but you just you couldn't. It just felt like the
whole time you could not and I couldn't enjoy at
least I tried to, but it was just not I
couldn't enjoy it till we were.
Speaker 2: Like officially out of the woods. Woods and there was.
Speaker 1: Many people like same thing in my life that I had.
And funny enough, like when I had posted publicly like oh,
you know, twins everything like that. It was literally that
day when we got the visit, like, yeah, you guys
are probably going back, and I wouldn't have said anything
at that point, right and luckily everything worked out. But yeah,
that was the first week. First week was fucking brutal.
And I don't wish it upon my worst enemy. I
have worst enemy. I know it's a saying, but it's
like I don't know, like Taylor, no, you know, I mean,
like like a real worst enemy, like I don't know. Luckily,
that's nothing that is in my life, so I hope not.
I guess Travis Smells. He came back in the gimmick chat,
which I know some people might think is me, but
it's not. Like I know, I have a lot of
fun and run some multiple accounts sometimes to have some
magic tricks, but I've never like done the trash Smells thing.
That's a somebody which I think it is hair to me.
I think it is has been trolled me since twenty
sixteen and they always come back like every few years,
and they came back in the gimmick. But yeah, so
that that's what happened the first week, and it was crazy,
and you know, we're adjustin, we're figuring out. Like I said,
we're getting at summer routine. Now this week will be
a new routine of k podcasting and then job here
we go, you know, and that that's a tough thing.
And that's the other thing too. When it's the two babies,
the same thing, I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna edit
the second movie a lot. I barely got to Oh,
I mean I have all this writing down because that
happened a lot with the other babies, right like, because
you'd be back and forth with the Beutimer's sleep, You're like,
good now it's like, oh I's sleeping.
Speaker 2: Oh ones awake literally.
Speaker 1: Before when in there, like I got Valerie down and
I looked at him like, oh, Sydney's sleep too perfect,
went downstairs, talked to the girls and come up. Sidney's
losing her mind. It's like, oh, okay, you're up, and
you just kind of have to go all right, Like
you can't be mad, you can't be like almost tired,
because like you're a baby as well, like like like
for you, this is all you know, right, So, and
they've been great, they're so cute, Sydney's very sensitive. She
was someone that if a door closed or the toilet flash,
hospital lose her mind. Her own farts scare her. So
it's that sort of way. But she's also very silly.
She's always you can get a smile out of her.
She's a big smile. Yeah, she she's a very funny kid.
And then Valerie, who's luckily now smiling. She's like, I
feel like she's always gonna be a little step behind
because she's smaller, but she's very spicy, very strong. That's
one thing I remember, even when they were the first
day in the nicke you they're like changing her chords
and she like like threw her arms up and like
pushed hands away, and she was like stronger than Zid
who has like three pounds are She's a strong kid.
And yeah, when she's mad, she's fucking mad.
Speaker 2: She's gonna let you know.
Speaker 1: But she's very like it sounds weird to say it's
about like a two month old, but like the look
she give me very inquisitive, like like studying you or not.
But it's like it's hard to get a smile out
of her, you know, it's hard to like it's not easy,
like city and then she's just like giddy her. You
gotta work for it, but when you get it, it's
like oh, and she's like she looks like a little
monkey too, like a little rang tang. And then sid
looks like we've called it like the groundchy turtle. She
looks like a little turtle tourists. But uh, it's great.
I'll definitely post more pictures that I'm back on social
media and everything, and yeah, it's been great to see
their personalities. But it's been great to see like it
is weird stuff like they sleep better together, you know,
like they'll be alone and then you put them together,
all they can sense each other's there easier. They cut
up like it is funny that whole like twin tuition
that Bonnie. They're not like this time I learned you
don't get to find out if they're identical, Like the
hospital don't tell you that, at least in Canada. You
have to test that yourself. And it's tough because when
they're firstborn, like, oh, we think they're identical, and then
as weeks were going on, like oh, we don't think so,
and then even this week we're like, damn, they look
a little like cause it's like even though they came
out at the same time, like Galleries like kind of
like it's almost like like in a week's probably sounds bad,
like over zealous, but like days like there is a
difference because she's so tiny, she's behind the curve of Sydney, right,
So it's like we.
Speaker 2: Really won't know until they get older.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need to test because like I
don't care if they're identical or not, but if people
want to ask, that's why. So it's like we don't know.
But they look very similar at least, and they look
very similar to their sisters, and I think they're gonna
be variations of Ginger, So.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's just been getting used to that and it's
been it's been a fun time. I'm very not looking
forward to going back to work, and that's what we're saying
the podcast is never that I didn't want to come
back to this. There was definitely done for Taylor. I
think he asked me like a month and like, oh,
you're ready come back. I'm like no, just because it
was on this thing of like uh no, and I
love doing it, but there was taking a break from
for this long. You know, I could watch three episodes
of Skeleton Crew not have to watch it at this time.
Speaker 2: You get back to.
Speaker 1: The you know, get off work, make dinner, watch the show,
got to get the kids ready, podcasts, sleep, and it's
like I didn't do anything other than and like, luckily
the podcast is like fun work. Right, that's the second job.
I don't want to stop that. Hopefully we grow and
same thing with the filmmaking rate. But it's like it's
when the job comes in and that's where the job
was kind of like taking care of the twins, right,
So that's where it's not like I didn't miss it,
but I was like, I'm very I'm very content not
to come back right now. Where now it's like okay,
more one rate because a kid, but add more of
an itch. But it's also like Okay, I got a
game plan and I'm just excited to get back. But
that's why I will be on less stuff too, Like
I won't be on like, uh for Leander. There's an
example where I'm gonna pick and choose my episodes. It's
not based on best I'm just gonna say like, hey,
this week, i'mna be on with this week I can
where before it's like I gotta be in everyone offs.
We cover each other, which is great because we got
the four of us, but you will probably see me
a lot less on those Saber.
Speaker 2: Reviews called take some skipping.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing when we have the what we've
been watching segment on Geek first right where it's like
if I've seen it and I want to talk about it,
here we go. Same thing like Dexter. I mean, be
in the last episode, so Mike, I will answer one
of your questions about Dexter, but I'll give most of
my thoughts on the next episode. So that's where I
might miss a couple reviews and then be like, Okay,
I'm back. I think the bigger you know, reviews, those
are ones will make sure sending a newscast that's we're doing.
Speaker 2: Weekly Geek where we're gonna have days or weeks.
Speaker 1: Where it's like Dylan and Taylor, Taylor and Kirkland, Dylan, myself,
myself and Taylor. We're still gonna try to there'll always
be a Geek first episode a month with all four
of us. If there's lack of shows or reviews, then
you'll get more of them. But we're finding a way
that Okay, you know, lots of life changes going right now.
How we how can we try to make it that
we're still putting out a good amount of content. We
still want to do our coverage, but it's on an
over workload for everybody, and that's what we're gonna make
some change. But I think you guys will like them,
will always be together and stuff. Sam US's girl dad
final boss. Hope it's all going well it is now,
Thank you, Sam. I saw I think I saw you,
whether it's on the YouTube video or the gimmick you
saw you said something. I didn't get technology because there
was too much going on. I literally was a trend
to end the episode, and these text me like, heyre
almost done because twins are freaking out. So that's where
you'll sometimes see me like, okay, I gotta sneak away,
hopefully not in trust, but that's why those are gonna
be pre recorded. But yeah, I'm back and I'm trying
to think there's anything else talk about pants will and
attack bastards. Scar somewhere around there. Pan in the head sick.
I guess it's a baking sheep, but still sick and
tired of that. But yeah, things are going well with
the girls. Things are going with the other girls. They're
other than they were sick. They're all doing great. They're
all big sisters, great big sisters, and it's been fun.
I got some good fun stuff to talk about them
on side Quest because I've been getting into some video games.
So tune out to the next time on side Quest
just me and Dylan. That'll be good episode. And then yeah,
so it's like what if I what if I missed?
What if I I don't know? A lots happen, you know,
Batman delayed, Superman trail or stuff like that. But I'm
gonna go to the questions first because i love my people.
Speaker 2: Actually I do. But I'm gonna say these two.
Speaker 1: Things they don't want to forget, uh, the scream stuff
that's been going on, because that's something I will forget.
No one asked about it, but I just want to
talk about because we didn't talk about news because like,
those guys don't want to scream. It's like May and
it feels just like Marvel in a sense where we
all worry, like, is what's it?
Speaker 2: What's the pickle? Oh god, doomsday?
Speaker 1: See I'm so out of the game Doomsday, Like, is
that give me the Rise of Skywalker for Marvel? That's
what Scream feels like. They're bringing back all these killers.
I'm super disappointed. I disappoint everything that's happened, right with
Melissa and stuff, but now even with Patrick Dempsey, the
fact that they in Canton. Oh, she's married to Mark.
But now they just got a new character named Mark
and gave it to him and or gave it to
what's his name. Oh god, I'm not gonna remember his name.
I see his face. I know he's Inspired Bent two.
He's in the Banker Joel McHale. They gave it to
him and Dempsey wouldn't come back, which fine, up, he's
in Dexter, but that was a big letdown, especially now
they're making it like it feeling like an endgame Scream.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on this franchise.
Speaker 1: I know all these killers are back. I think it's
just hallucinations or flashbacks. I think flashbacks is risky. They
know you can DH but I don't know about that.
It's probably someone's son or stepbrother or twin brother, whatever
it may be. I think they just really got to
hit the nail on the head with this one, because
I think a lot of people are tuning out, are
gonna tune out if it is bad, and I think
there's already a lot of people that are down.
Speaker 2: I'm even down now.
Speaker 1: I was really excited for Patrick Dempsey because I thought
there's more stuff to do with him and the Sidney
Prescott character. Now I just worry he's gonna be like
the law of diminishing returns. And I've always said that
I do not want Sidney. Know I have a dog
gam Sidney. I do not want Sidney Prescott to be killed.
I don't want her to get the Nancy Trutman nightmare
on Elm Street. She's a character that's been targeted, so
she was sixteen years old or whatever. She should get
like a happy ending, and I don't want to be
like her husband's that killers that like. I think there's
lots of room for error. And even then Kevin Williamson,
he's not directed that much, right, So I think there's
tons of room for error, and that just keeps coming
and Patrick Dempson not being it. I know it sounds weird,
but it was like the first step so that and
then I will transition to talk about Dexter a little bit,
and I'll get into Mike's question because so Dexter, that
news of James coming back or James Ramar. I'm not
on a first name basis with the actor place Harry,
the kid that plays Harrison and then Angel. It's funny
because I listened to the newscast and the boys felt
like not too excited about it.
Speaker 2: What gets me excited about this?
Speaker 1: And like mynor spoils for the show, big spoils for
show Dexter, So skip ahead like five minutes if you
don't want to watch it. But like, honestly, he's not
dead because they're making a show, right, they'd done the
fake death thing they did new Blood and they killed
them off and now he's back. It's called resurrection, right
what I did, because this is something I won't maybe
talk I'll talk about a little bit on the Dexter review.
I did my first ever Matchetti order where I decided, Okay,
I think I said this when we're doing new Blood,
like it'd be fascinating to watch Dexter one to four
and skip all the like mid like there's some good
seasons in there or some badsunes, but lots of middling
stuff right, and then go right to new Blood. Surprisly,
it worked very well because multiple times in the season
four finale, even Harry is telling him just to run away,
start over, and then a new Blood it's him is like,
you know, as a hidden lumberjack. Stuff like that. It
worked very well and it was very fun to go
from that aspect and what I've said before and now
people will sorry, will hear me have to repeat this
in the future. But with Dexter, he's supposed to be killing,
you know, people that hurt the innocent, and eventually you know,
he did kill some people that were innocent, and then
even new Blood he kills his call that's super nice
to his son, super nice guy, no reason to die
other than he selfish, doesn't want.
Speaker 2: To get caught.
Speaker 1: So with the idea of the show being resurrection and
Harry being back, the reason I was excited is because
to me, Harry is his moral compass and that's the
only thing I think we'll see what have to happen.
But Dexter, to me, should be on like a redemption
tour of like, hey, I killed this man, I didn't
die for some reason the world wants me here. I
got to just go back to killing all the bad guys, right,
And I think that's where Harry beaving back is great
and watching the show again.
Speaker 2: I know he's in originals, but watching the show again.
Speaker 1: Having Angel back like that is a big core emotional
element of the show, and especially to Dexter. One of
my favorite lines of the show is if I could
be like a human, a real human, I'd choose to
be like you. And Batista's like, thanks, I have no
fucking idea what you're talking about, but thanks him catching
him him on the hunt because he's got to catch him.
That to me is sitting a really fun show potentially, right.
I think there's lots of other issues of a guy
trying and hide the dending and go to New York
that doesn't make sense with them in the show. That's great,
But I think there's tons of stuff and there's tons
of things they might do that. You know, I'm not
saying they has to do what I say, but I
don't think there's many routes like the screen thing like,
there's lots of room for error going on, but these
castings like that is a big thing in New Blood.
We were like, oh we didn't get enough of Angel,
we want him more. While he's a serious regular, so
it's like, oh, that's fantastic, that's great. So I'm very
excited to see where that all goes. Excited to see
the first few episodes of it. And yeah, he's got
to get caught. He's that thing where he would have
rather died than get caught. So this guy was killed
as the people should get the treatment of the worst
thing possible. Thing he's scared the most about it is
going to prison, going to prison, original sin. I'll say
my thoughts. I'll give a little taste that I I'm
with everybody other than a Kirkland and Tea because they
are enjoying it a lot. Right, And even before I
rewatched the shows like one to four and then new Blood,
I've seen Dexter many many times. That's a top three favorite.
At one point was my favorite show. Now it's climbed
back up. I had to have the top ten, but
new Blood made it get back in there. Don't know
where it is now, but that's the thing where it's
I know it not like the back of my hand,
but pretty close. So the inconsistencies of that show. A
lot happens in there. That is an issue whish I
will talk about and for me what the problem is.
It just makes it feel lazy. I hate that one
is Clyde Philps who was there for the originals, and
two like all the stuff's there and I hate I
know there's some writers response that was like, oh, you know,
you know sometimes the show we viewed the narrative as
from Dexter's point of view, but it wasn't real, no bullshit.
At no point in the show did they ever set
up him being an unreliable narrator. That never happened. You
can't go back on that because you lazily want to
be like, we want to do the story, but it
doesn't fit. Ah, fuck it, let's do it. So I
have some issues there. I think the show is like
the episodes are always good to fine. I don't think
there's a great episode. I think there's some great things
about it. I'll like I said, I'll do a deeper
dive when we do a four review because I want
Tarn Kirkland to bounce off them. But I think there's
stuff that bugs them a lot more or bugs me
a lot more than them. And that's why I've bug
Kirklm the whole time. But it's the same way go
back when we did our Lord of the Rings review.
There's tons of stuff that would bug in that and
be like oh whatever. And for me, why I thought
it was fine is because they're adapting the books. Like
this is something. It is a books, but it's a
little bit different. This is not adapting decks or this
is not rebooting. This is a prequel, a you know,
pre continuation of the show. You can't just start doing
different things, different error changes or gear changes just because like,
well we're gonna pickle we don't know how to write it. No,
that's how you become better writers, says Okay, how do
we do this? Well, let's sit down figure it out
and not just go well, uh that doesn't matter because
it's just hair, or it's just the time of the year,
or it's just this or this actor didn't do this.
And and for cast wise, I think it's a mixed bag.
I think there's some people that are great. I think
even Patrick Gibson I think is a mixed bag. I
think there's some things he does very well. I think
there's some things he does very poorly. And again I'll
get more in those specifics when we get to the
action episode. But I think he has gone better as
episodes have gone on. But I think the show is
like if you look at all seasons, it's like bottom
three decks. You know, there's a lot of stuff that
it goes a lot into an older dextra two where
things just happened and he gets away with things very easily,
and that's really annoying. Where seasons one to four were
a bit more tight, they always had some suspension of disbelief,
but then seasons like five to seven were way more
of like remember when De actually killed the guy at
the airport, It's like, what that's again? And that happens
in this show. So it's definitely a mixed bag for me.
I'm hoping that Resurrection is not that because overall he
likes new Blood more on a second watch, especially after
watching everything so super Mike says, so basically, Clyde philps
order since he left Shore Run after season.
Speaker 2: Four, came back for a new Blood and moving forward, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: What happened, because what happened was his hopefully I'm not
speaking not at a turn. I thought it was public
knowledge or if I'm wrong, but I believe the story
was he was there from one to four and I
think his wife became ill.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I think she survived that, I don't know, but he
step away for family matters, and then it was Scott
Buck who Scott Buck, he show ran Iron Fist the
first season. He show ran the fucking Inhumans.
Speaker 2: And he's not doing much. Scott Buck not great.
Speaker 1: He was a writer on the show but did not
need to be the showrunner. So I think that's what's
interesting with New Blood is there's some references to Hannah
and other things that happened post four. Absolutely, but even
the Hannah thing, he never even says like that he
loved her or they're dating, and he like, it's just
like it could have been a person watching Harrison, Like,
I literally think ninety five percent that show. Okay, I'll
say ninety ninety percent that show works. After one to four,
there's a few things where oh, that doesn't make sense,
but same thing of just like, oh they talk about him,
you know, leading to.
Speaker 2: Where his death.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, you could put together that he
snapped or even dead. It's like you'd wonder, oh, why
is she dead? But most of them it worked really well.
So I do think Clyde is really doing his dexter stuff.
But that's what's annoying is he is a part of
the original Sin team and they're like making little errors
with his stuff.
Speaker 2: You know that. That's that's what's frustrating me.
Speaker 1: And it's not like George Lucas the prequels where he
adds something where you go, oh, that's different, where here's
some way I don't have a problem with a They'll
peaked in my review Harry having a son before in Lusium,
I have no problem adding that to the can And
it's like, hey, that doesn't unpact the show. It makes
me look differently at Harry and it's something that's completely different,
which Christian Slater. That's the stuff that that bugs me.
When I listened to the next with Kirkling and he's like, yeah,
it feels just like Harry, I'm like, man, you need
to watch the show again because this is not Harry.
And I know even Kirklely at the point like, well,
I wouldn't want that exact Harry because it wouldn't be interesting.
Speaker 2: It's like for me.
Speaker 1: It's like I watch all those episodes of Harry and
Dexter and it's interesting, and I would love to see
a real life Harry reacting to this stuff, like the
one we knew in love. That would be very interesting.
Christian Slater is just Chrystler. It's such a That's why
it's so weird, and that's why there are times it
feels very like fan film ish, which is not good.
So that's what it's like. Adding new stuff that's fine me,
like Medichlorian's right, or I don't know, just anything they
did with Vader off see some of the Vader stuff
was awful, but I'm just saying adding things sure, taking
little detours or you.
Speaker 2: Know, one beer one a.
Speaker 1: It's like, like, even how Harry's gonna die? They screwed up.
And I know, you know kirkl and tel Bug and
be like, oh, it's just the wig. It's like, it's
not just about the wig. It's just the timing of
it when it takes place certain things. It's it's tough
when you do a prequel, and that's why I hate prequels.
I would liked if this was just a new series,
But I digress. I will be on the penultimate episode
and the finale, so we'll get more into it. Excited
to talk about with those guys. This last episode was
tons of fun, lots of good Easter eggs.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Let's say, Mike, also, is it welcome back, Hope your
times good with the family, new babies?
Speaker 2: Not too exhausting, it was, but we figured out to
thank you.
Speaker 1: Love your thoughts on Skeleton Crew and Dexter okay, so perfect.
Speaker 2: Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 1: I think it was something where we got that first
trailer and I liked it, and then there was like
a second trip. I think I said like, oh, I'm
out not really looking forward to this Skeleton Crew. Now.
I know only thing it's gonna get season two because
the ratings are low. But that is to me, it's
always tough with Force Wakens because I love Force Wakens
by itself, but then what it leads to it hurts
a little bit. So that's why I'll put Force Wakens.
It's still my favorite. I'll just say this, it's a
mixing order. Skeleton Crew to me is in my top
three for Disney Star Wars, and I also think it
is the best version of what Star Wars could be
with Disney. I think and Or is the best thing
that Disney Star Wars is created. Right, But you can't
have as much as I love and Or. No, the
movies couldn't be like that, Like that's not for everybody,
especially there is still supposed to be like a childlike
or family fun aspect to these movies. Right, that's not
and Or. I put on and Or from my kids, like,
let's watch this. They're gonna be out quicker than you
can say the word best Spin Skelton Crew they absolutely love.
That was like event television. And another thing that was
huge was when the show started coming, we're watching all
them together, right, Emily was watching cause she's a fan story.
It's not like a mathn but she was watching them.
Speaker 2: After everyone she was out.
Speaker 1: I don't like she hate O one, but it's just
like it was not appointment TV for her. It was
like she watched and maybe asked me or I'd tell
her about it but didn't really care. And she'd see
a mantle but I had no more connection to be like, Okay,
I want to continue stuff. Skeleton Crew she really liked,
and I hit the nail on the head of like
it is that Ambulin meets Goody like amblin goonies et
sort of vibe, and for me it was perfect. Now,
of course that's where it's kid oriented because the kids
are the main characters, right, but even take out that
aspect of the ambling part, just the vibe and the
look and the feel that to me is like do
what they did? Like the Jude Law character. Sure, there's
kid leads, but the Jude Law character, what a piece
of shit?
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh, he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be in the fun Jack Sparrow type right, absolutely,
not like like there was moments of that, but really
like a very tragic, charming, dangerous character that is you
could redeem of course, but did a lot of irredeemable, unredeemable,
irne over redeeable one of those things in that show.
And to me it was a perfect blend of like
the practical and the uh like visual effects cig everything
like that. I thought it was great where they had
East eggs where they talk about the Old Republic or
other things, but it didn't feel like an A'll show.
I knew Luke Skywalker. Luke. I'm not saying that's wrong,
like completely wrong, right, but I do think if you're
looking at Okay, who knows what the fo's happening with
these movies. Everyone knows how I feel about like popular
leads with Star Wars.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Love Ryan Gossling.
Speaker 1: I think there is a time, if he puts his
mind to it, he could give a performance to be
like he's the best actor in the world. I think
we've seen that he has such a variety, and that's
where people when they're like, oh, this guy, like they
are treating him like Ryan reynlds. We even Ryan Reynald
I think gets treated pretty harsh, like he has some range.
But yes, Ryan has a little less range than a
lot of other people, right, Ryan Gossling has so much range.
So for people to be like, oh, we know what
it's gonna be, it's like, no, we don't. Now. It's
very like it'ld be a fall guy to roll, sure,
but it could be anything. Is this guy bag of tricks?
Is like he has more he has even shown us, right,
So for me, that's great, but I hope it is
a very great performance because for me, I don't like
the leads of I do just see Ryan Gossling. I
like to get lost in world.
Speaker 2: Marvel and DC.
Speaker 1: I'm fine at that, maybe because we've had so many variations,
But when it's the the world of Star Wars, I
like that magic. The same thing with Rings the Power.
I like that it's actors, even if I've seen the
one thing right like the I can't remember the name
of the woman that plays Gllateral. I saw her in
one thing, but she's not a mass star, so I went, oh,
I really like her in Saint Maud, but this is
a right fit here. I don't feel like I'm seeing
the Saint mad character. We're gossling. There is a lot
of baggage that comes with that, and I don't love that.
But I think Stars is just so desperate of like, hey,
Sean Levy did a billion dollars, everyone loves Ryan Goslin
put them together and maybe I'm wrong, right, but for me,
the vibe that I want them to capture is Skelton Crew,
even if it is a bit more kiddy gus. Guess
what Star Wars is for families and kids. I don't
think that doesn't mean it can't be dark, because stuff
happens all the time in Disney movies back in the
day were fucking dark, right, Like just because it's kids
or even like Spider Verse right where like kids, can
you know, get into that? Look at me because we
bah with the kids all being sick this week.
Speaker 2: We watched a bunch of uh.
Speaker 1: You know movies this week, and we watched the Spider
Verse movies and like, think about the first fifteen minutes
with Gwen and her dad for across the kids.
Speaker 2: Don't get bored.
Speaker 1: They said, there that's dark stuff, that's her dad and
a rest like you could do those things and still
have like the family kind of alment around it. So
for me, John Watson Company, they captured exactly what I
want of sure fully can do.
Speaker 2: Is so good bringing open one and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But the future of Star Wars if you're not making
episode oh what is it where we're at now ten? Right,
let's say they do now as we're doing episode ten,
ray thin pot if you're not doing that and you go, hey,
we do want to get away from them Skywalkers. What
John Watson was perfect because again they do tell you
where it is in the timeline, but you don't it's
not beholden to like, oh this would fuck up this,
this would mess with this, that story you change a
few things. You could have put them in the prequels,
all Republic, High Republic where it is now after the news,
could have put it anywhere and.
Speaker 2: Fit, and that's what's so good.
Speaker 1: I think you want a variation of Star Wars. And
probably because it's low ratings, they're gonna go, oh no,
people don't like that, and all it's kids, and that's
I think a big thing why. I think it's two
things right. The low ratings is because Star Wars just
on a downtrain. Because to this example, guy in the
chair ot here might give it go host s, pubs.
I haven't watched any Star Wars since Man of season three.
Good here scouting is good. I need to watch it
at some point, absolutely. And the good thing is I
don't think it's tying and anything, but it's like the
episodes aren't super long, but they're not super short either,
which is good.
Speaker 2: There's a couple, but it's worth a watch. It's tons
of fun.
Speaker 1: I agree with some people that it is like the
most cinematic thing John Watson has done, and he did
three Spider Man movies.
Speaker 2: But that's the two things right.
Speaker 1: Is one it was led by kids and a lot
of people go At kids show, same with the Animation
kids show, and they push it off. Sure there's elements
of that, but like I can watch things with children
and root for them and get invested. Like also, I
watched Goonies when I was a kid, but there was
probably not probably there were millions of billions of people
around the world that saw Goonies as adults and were like,
this thing is fucking awesome. So being just kids, that's
like very close minded. And the second thing is just
like Star Wars is the lowest when you talk about
the Big three that especially around our podcast with the
Marvel Stars of DC, star Wars is still really at
the bottom. And even though Chase's Gun hasn't even put
out a movie yet, Star Wars is easily at the
bottom by far list any problems they got right. And
that's why for me, skeletal career, like that's the identity
it should be. And android and or I think is
too adult, but you should still have that acolyte. Super
might just give an acolte be in the show before
it did not help either, absolutely not, and to me
actlyte that was the thing of Hey, something new, but
very poorly written in my opinion, and I know people
misread all those reports of even Katie, who's in and
I'm not gonna speak for her if she's misreadom or not,
but she hosts our Star Wars Alliance show, and she's like,
I don't know how you could cancel show. That's number two,
even though it's down, because the report was okay, number
one showing Disney Plus and Percy Jackson.
Speaker 2: Number two was act Lite right.
Speaker 1: In her case and many other people's case were hey,
also that report said yeah, it's number two, but Agatha
and I just said Marvel and Star Wars was down greatly.
Dolphin says, miss you man, thank you very much. I
missed you too, missed everybody.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 1: Thankfully again, thank dyl Musk for the discord. It was
great because that's the only place I was really social media.
It's great to keep up with people. So again it's
in the link below. If it doesn't work, let us know.
But the discord my favorite place favor app ever, uh
so it was great to talk with everybody, but with Acolyte,
like I'm on the other side of oh well, even
though everything was huge percentages down, it was still number two.
The cost that was crazy the fact that, like they
showed the top ten of the streaming shows last year, right,
the fact that Sylvester Staloan's what is that thing? It's
something King, Tulip King or Tulsa King, it's him. It's
Frank Ralla costs like just a perfect like budget's nothing
right compared to like the two fifty plus Acolyte. That's
where it's like, again, sure it's number two, but it
doesn't matter if that number two is so lower than
what you used to have, Like that's where you go,
this is not worth it. So that that to me
is like a not just taking case of the loser
or what I'm saying, like, that's to me a losing
attitude of well it's number two, so but it's like
down seventy percent, Well let's keep going. It'd be different.
Speaker 2: It was well received, but it was not.
Speaker 1: And that's where act Like to me, it was going
forward but or like going in a different direction, but
I think just was not well thought out. Tulsa King
is that Yeah, Tulsa King is in that Yellowstone spirit
of Dad Shows. It's funny s bumps. I'm not sure
you might know this, but like for me, the Dad
Shows back in our day were like Law and Order CSI,
but the biggest one, I'm not sure if it's still on,
but NCIS when me and Emily that because my grandma
used to watch that, you know, RPA, Doreen, all all
those spinoffs, right, and for me, me and them were
like other than her, it's like I don't know a
single fucking person in the planet, Like personally, I know
there's people but that watches NCIS, but everyone, like cable
ratings were big in like two thousand and whenever Friends
ended to like two ten, NCIS was like always the
top one to three show, and it's just like a
cop show, just like them catching bad guys.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's a top three show.
Speaker 1: It's like eighteen twenty million viewers a week, and you're like,
who is watching NCIS And that's the same thing where
like I like to bug Chris and Taylor about it,
but like that's where like I've met nobody other than Taylor,
like that watched Yellowstone, you know, And that's why I'd
always show like that's a show for sixty and up.
Taylor's not sixty, Chris not sixty. I liked to bust
their balls but it's like, I don't know anybody my
age watching this show, you know, uh yeah, and it
has like five spinoffs. Yeah, n cis Yeah, it's still on.
I'll say, I don't think it's pull those numbers. But
same thing Tulsa King all that stuff. But when you
looked at the top ten streaming shows like these things
and they're getting it was something where it's like two
point I think Actlite was like two point three billion
hours watch for minutes watch from release to the when
the report was made right, and Tulsa King was like
seven point eight acolte. I saw preview anywhere or everywhere.
Of course I got an algorithm, and of course it's
probably targeting me, but still I saw it a bunch
of places. Tulsa King, I'm like, you know, it's param
plus somewhere. I've seen a couple of times, but and
I don't know anybody that watches it, But still that's crazy.
And something like squid Game, where from like Christmas to
the report it was like one point three billion not
or one point three billion hours, not minutes hours, And
that shows the power of like squid Game has been
out for like a month and a couple of weeks
and it's and obviously Squid Game was a phenomenon, right,
But it's crazy how the power of Netflix and a
hit show. But even like Tulsa King. Let's see if
I can find that report there of streaming Shows twenty
twenty four, because it was all these things. Oh, it's
just gonna bring up weird stuff like have you seen
Wise Guy. Let's see Acolyte deadline. Let's see if I
can find it on the spot. If I can't, let's
see number two season for that. Let's see if I
can find Tulsa King. So I think I found the
original report, but the shows that were Tulsa no, I
can't find it, but I will have to find at
some point or talk about me with the boys. But
it was all those type of shows. It was like
Tulsa King esque shows that were like, oh, really that's
beating them, that's been that. Where for me, I get
why it's canceled, like let's get out of here, let's
go away. So for me, the hub because that's why
I was getting back on social media when I saw
the hubble of oh Acolyte was number two and they
got rid of It's like no, no, like me like
if you were in a race and you were second
in the race, but the person that was first finished
like twelve hours before you.
Speaker 2: Picked well, I was second.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but the guy finished half a day
before you. As I said, for me, relate those more
to mom shows, because that's all my mom watches. She's
on that suv at least once a week. Okay, and
that's fair enough. And that same thing Grandma would watch
the NCAIS I had to watch all the time, and
I did not like that show at all, but we
had to watch it when I was there. So But anyways,
my point was and or to adult it's too like heavy,
I would say to do that right. Actlite was just
to be poorly conceived where it's all over the place.
Then the Foloney stuff at times is too much inside baseball.
There's been so many people in retrospect that I've talked about,
so being like I couldn't get into because X, Y
and Z, because it is like a sequel to Rebels,
and I didn't fucking watch Rebels and they didn't do
a good enough job, you know, recapping me.
Speaker 2: So and Foloney is not the answer.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I'm get littles of water. Oh my god,
high quality h two. Oh. It's the same thing where
I agree with people that it's not like, oh, Kathleen,
Kenny has to go. It's like a lot of people
gotta go or make some changes, like and Filoni has
to And I had said this to and don't get
me wrong, he's done some maybe not go, but go
from the role he's in. I had said this to
Taylor years ago because he was always pitching Felony, and
I said, Folony's not the guy. And that's where the
funny thing is, right where it's like me and Katie
could completely disagree on the act Lite stuff, but completely
agree like Folony is not the guy to be doing X,
Y and Z. And when you look at those type
of shows and everything happening with like the fact the
Mando movie is just if people. Because I don't think
they've talked about this too much in the newscast. I
think in the discord we have, but pretty much it's
confirmed that what happened with Mulana I going to theaters,
it's what happening with the Mando movie. Now they didn't
film it and put together, but it sounds like it's
gonna be like a filler episode put into a movie.
It's they gotta go save Jaba the huts sun and
the filla in is voiced by Dave Foloni and it's
just like a and literally they've done this in Clone Wars,
so it's just kind of like a rehash of something.
I guess. I'm like, I'll take any Star Wars movie,
but I know it sounds picky, but I'm more in
the sense of, like, I'll think any Stars movie that's
not fullony, And yeah, I suppose it's false gone on
the statue flowing like BBS scene, absolutely, and I think.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are coming around to that.
Speaker 1: And that's where like Taylor will be like, oh what
about this and this, And I'm like, well, you know
that's a flony call.
Speaker 2: That's this call, right, and same thing if Folony.
Speaker 1: And that's where it's tough, because Folony, Kathleen Kennedy, if
they are heavily involved and they are still green lining
this stuff as far as Skeleton Crew, that's what's tough
because every once in a while something comes down and go, man,
this was fucking great, Like more of this, and then
you get like three to four more projects that are
middling or suck. You're like, what happened, and the same
thing will happen with the and or right. It's like
when it's the MCU meme of Marvel's back, Marble's dead,
Marvel's back, but Star Wars is like, oh, Star Wars,
this is the direction that should go. And then it's
just like six feet under for a while, and then
you gotta fucking dig up like your evil dead. So
I don't think flowing is a full answer, but it's
it's tough.
Speaker 2: They just gotta get their ducks in a row. Not
the main Gold movie.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the idea as far as
going back that far, it's not a concept that's ever
interested me. Because James Mangold, I'm like, yes, please get
that going. I'm more definitely more excited for the Sean
Leevy movie more than the faberl movie because it just
feels like it's gonna be a Disney plus episode that's
on the big screen to.
Speaker 2: Me, which sucks.
Speaker 1: And I get it because fucking Bob Biger, that's where
he's retiring two years. Whatever you want to say about him,
becau obviously he's said some bad shit during the strike
and everything like that smart fucking decision.
Speaker 2: With Mamana Ma wanna billion dollar movie?
Speaker 1: That thing. I just watched it for the first time
this week and it was enjoyable. It was a good time,
not like the first, but that like he went from
just making a streaming show that you know could have
spikes the numbers to a billion dollar property. So I
don't think he's necessarily wrong in doing that. And that's
a tough thing, right. I think I talked about this
with Tato before I left, is if Mandalorian Grogu comes
out and it's it's very safe, just turn your brain.
Speaker 2: Off type of movie, which I don't know I wanted
to turn your brain.
Speaker 1: Off, but I think it's very safe. If it's like
that makes a billion dollars, then it's like fuck, Like
we're stuck with that. The same way as now we're
gonna get a bunch of sequels for Disney, right, We're
getting Moana three, We're getting live action Wana. That's a
tough thing where Manuin and Grogu. I it sounds bad,
but I kind of want it not to do well
because I don't want that to be a direction. But
I also don't want them to put up this movie
and not do well and they go, well, we're gonna
take another seven years off like Star Wars. I think
you just in general needs a lot of changes over there,
and it's very tough and I'm very curious how this
all goes. Every report since I've been gone about the
Mandelarian movie, I have zero, zero excitement other than I
will go enjoy it with my kids. It's the same
way of like thor Love and Thunder, which I've never
watched again. I don't think I enjoyed that a lot more.
I remember when I was on the Voker stream, I
said like, oh yeah, I had a great time. I
loved a lot of this stuff in there. Now there's
a lot of points people brought up and things in
retrospect where I go, yeah, it's not great everything. But
the reason was it was a fine middling movie to me,
had some big cons as well. But because I'm seeing
with my kids, that was tons of fun and that's
the same thing here. But with this I'll definitely have
a lot more of a I don't know guard up
because a lot of the stuff in the Floony verse
I've not been a fan of and I think Boa
Fete was awful, Mandalorian three was awful. Maybe that's a stretch.
There were awful things about it. Boba Fet was awful,
but it's it's very tough. So with Skeleton Crew to
round us back to what Mike ass originally, I absolutely
loved it. That's something that I will probably go return
back to many times in my life. I'm fingers crossing
begging and they do a season two but if not
to me and ended in a perfect way, We're okay,
there could be more adventures.
Speaker 2: But if they were stopped there, great, And that's to me,
if you were to pitch me.
Speaker 1: Say hey, what should Star Wars be that you know
overall that new characters with feeling exactly like the world,
to me, it felt like a perfect It felt like
Force Awakens.
Speaker 2: We're Force Wakens.
Speaker 1: To me, did feel like a perfect combo of like
the prequels and the Originals. This was everything you would want.
Speaker 2: Everything.
Speaker 1: When they're like, we won't get away from Skywalkers because
look at Mandalorian starts out as we're not go on
to the Skywalkers. Luke Skywalkers in season two right like
Skeleton through, Skeleton Crew felt like the first genuine not
tied to anything Star Wars, but fresh Star Wars that
you could invest in that actually felt like they were
doing what they said and not some kind of wink
nod like oh, you know that guy's related Darth Mal
isn't that great?
Speaker 2: Like none of that, you know it.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't say perfect show. There's definitely some
cons and you know, some acting moments whatnot. But it was,
like I said, I don't know where it would overall stars,
but Disney Top three really loved that.
Speaker 2: I was bummed.
Speaker 1: I was on those reviews because Taylor and Kirkland I
think both get like a se point five bastards, bastards,
no taste. It's because kirkl has no kids and Taylor
has a kid. But you know what, I don't know,
it's good something that can glore happen to him, and
you know it's I can't, I can't, I can't support this.
I don't know who knows, but uh yeah, I would
have gave that like a nine nine point five. I
really love Skeleton Crew. Super Mike says, I feel like
filony is just to attach to his animated character, to
be the guy who moves stars for it, and I agree,
I think it'd be better if it's like there was
a guy moving it forward and it's like, hey, Dave,
you know every two years you get to do one
show and if you want to tie to that stuff, great,
and he could make that call, like what do you
want to do with your show? But to make it
all about that, I don't know the next all the brands,
That's what I love about. What's gonna be happening on
the podcast, Marvel, Star Wars and DC. The next three
years is going to be very telling for all of
them because these's has his new universe. Star Wars is
trying to I think, kind of re established themselves, and
then Marvel's trying to win people back, right, and a
bunch of things could go wrong. Superman could come out
and flow up and there we go, Batman. Let's hope
that fucking comes out. You know. Like I'm I'm not
gonna talk too much about it yet because with the
there's more I from what I've heard, I completely buy into.
There was stuff going on with Matt Reeves and that's
where it's like, hey, I don't want to comment on that.
That's where it's tough to speculate, I could corn sweat
being Batman or vice versa. All I'll say is on
that delay because I never spoke about it, it sucks,
but of course, give the Man as time. Let's hope
it comes out. You know, The Dark Knight Rises had
four years in between. This would be five years. But whatever,
it's an extra year. It is gonna be a little
hot that pass AND's gonna be playing like the movie's
supposed to take place like months after The Batman, and he.
Speaker 2: Will noticely be older. Like there's no ifs about it.
Speaker 1: He's a great looking young dude, but he's noticeably gonna
be older, So.
Speaker 2: It's that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they're gonna reshuffle some things there
plot wise, but as long as it comes out great.
That's been the same thing I've said the James Gun.
You can do whatever you want, cast orever you want great,
but as long and it might sound selfish, but as
long as I get the Batman trilogy, you do whatever,
I'll support you. And that trilogy goes away or there's
issues or they're doing things that they don't want to do,
That's where I'm less hyped about the DCU overall right,
because I did like what James Gunn said a couple
of weeks ago on Threads where he said, eventually they
want to get a Elseworld or a black label whatever,
like at Logo, where it's like this is the DCU
stuff and this is the else World stuff, and that's
what I would love Marvel to do. I would love it,
and that's what we kind of we're hoping. What if
it would be in a sense then it wasn't right
Spider Man friendly Neighborhood is maybe that. I'll give my
thoughts on that when I get to one of those
reviews that might be a couple of weeks. I think
it's fine. I think the hype around it same thing.
I'm can't wait. I've not talked to Taylor Curtty much.
I can't wait to talk to them because to me
that show, they were eleven and I was like, I
know what you watch? Like, I thought it was very
above mid That's what I would say, like overall animation,
writing everything. There's some really cool moments in there, and
one moment in episode one particular, like oh that's really
well done. But overall I'm like, this is you know,
we should got that Spider Man ninety eight revival, you know,
but that's the thing where ah shit, where was I
rambled on Taylor and Kirkland? But oh, I would love
if Marvel just came out and said, hey, here's a slate.
You see the Iron Man movie. It's not downy, it's
not connected. We just want to tell an iron Man
one off story. You know. Great, we want to fully
adapt Demon in the Bottle, but that would have never
worked in the MQU but we want to do it
here and tell gripping, dark, deep story about what addiction
and alcoholism could do to someone great and as smart
as Tony Stark the demon in the Battle aspect. Right,
you can't do that in the MCU. Look at what
they did Iron Man two, right, like that was the
aspect of Okay, it kind of got a little more jokey.
I've been begging Marvel to do that, and I know
why they don't. So James Gunn saying hey, we want
to do that. Great, and even the interview he gave
like I thought about it, but I want to invest
in else worlds. So if he puts his money where
his mouth is also poor them than anything else. To me,
it's like if there's ever a backtrack, and it's yeah,
he said to Matt Reeves, like do this, this, this,
But I said, my only statement is I hope it
comes out very excited for it, and I still have
no interest in pass and being in the DCU. If
there was ever a pitch for it, I would at
least like it to be. Kay, let Matt Reeves finish
his trilogy and then bring them in, because I'm with
some people where give the other heroes a chance. We
just got a Batman movie. I love Batman, but we're
not starving for Batman. We got prep Cake Crusades last
year Penguin, like Batman's had so much stuff in the
past decade, two decades of content, right, So it's where
like I'm fine for Wait, it's also tough because like
I got The Dark Knight and The Batman. I go
back and forth, but like if they never made another
Batman movie after that, I'd be fine because like that
those are near perfect movies for me and what I
like with Batman. Right, So I'm good whatever we want
to do. But it's the sense of I don't want
it to if you're asking me if we're going forward
with Robert Passon, don't want DCU and do Supergirl do
clay Face, which is an odd pick, but it's Mike
fucking Flan again. Awesome, do that, do Lowbo do swamp thing?
You can get to Batman whenever I would, I would
even be fine. I know people might think it's sacrilege.
Do a Justice League without Batman and see what happens now,
watch it fails, and they'd fire me. Right of course,
business wise, I'd say put Batman in there, but try
it out.
Speaker 2: Marvel and the MCU did not have.
Speaker 1: Their A tier players when they started the MCU, and
it worked out pretty okay. The same way as like,
I'm not gonna talk about the X Men cast rumors
because we've got newscast this week and we will talk
about that, and I'm very excited about the rosters forming,
and at least I'll say that apparently with the rumors,
it's looking like Wolverine is not gonna be in this
movie from the new casting that's happening right now to
reports the past, and to me, great, do without it,
because then what's gonna you know, much bigger it's gonna
be when we get the X Men two or three
and Wolverine.
Speaker 2: Is on the team.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Justice, Like I imagine the DCU is
set It's kind of like when Spiderman came in, right,
like the MCU got set up and then Spierman king
Civil Wars.
Speaker 2: Like, fuck, this is awesome. We got this character.
Speaker 1: A to your character. We love playing with this universe.
Let's go and it for the most partly think worked
out pretty well. Led in no way home with Batman.
Same thing. I would love it if James Gunn went,
you know what, let's shelve braving the bold for now,
Like maybe we're gonna get to it, but let's shove
for now. Let's keep and let's say Superman's a hit, right,
Let's do all this stuff and then we'll get to Batman.
People are never gonna not be tired Batman. Batman's had
hit films since so the eighties, So what we in
now like forty years and even sixty six, like that's
like sixty years now, sixty plus years somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: Of He's a character people will always will care about.
Speaker 1: Some DC fans might hate that because they want, you know,
a Superman, Warner Woman, et cetera to be the top dog.
It's not because as usual, Batman's a man and everyone
could relate to a kid losing their parents and getting
fucked up about it. Right, That's why Dexter is such
a hit. Like that's we're literally in the interviews for
all these shows. They I can't remember this, I'm paraphrasing,
but they literally were like, yeah, we end the show.
But Showtime called and said it's the biggest thing and
we want more. And that's how Original Sin and Resurrection happened.
They had no plans to bring Dexter back. Dexter was dead.
But guess what Showtime concept? Fuck the huge hit, you
want to do more, here's a bag of money. Great,
same thing with pat Men. It's just like, and I
think because Dexter, Dexter has such a good hook, right,
a serial killer who kills bad people, the classic narrative
of is he a good guy doing bad things or
a bad guy doing good things? And it's that struggle
and we've all been there, right, I'm somebody I've always
said I support the death penalty.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm gonna we need to get in
the wall streets stuff and everything.
Speaker 1: But there's criminals where it's like, yeah, you don't deserve
to live anymore. And that's a morality tail right, same
thing Batman, multiple story points have morally tales. That's a
character that's always gonna play. So if you're telling me
if the dcu's successful, right and it's working, if someone,
if James Gum were just sit me down say you
know what, actually we're not gonna use Batman till like
twenty thirty, I'd be like, oh, I'm who in the
right mind where it's my stuff gonna be like, oh,
that's a mistake, Batman. Like you're waining too long. People
are gonna you know, people might have vanish to get impatient, sure,
but it's like they were excited when Spiderman eventually got
them what the MCU started two thousand and eight and
Spiderman didn't get there for another eight years, and people
were excited. It led to two billion dollar movies with
Spider Man for multitude reasons, right, But still I don't
think they, oh, you're missing the boat, Like if the
DCU is working, like, no, we missing the boat, it's
gonna fail.
Speaker 2: No, people will show up for the Batman. People will
be there obviously for that Batman.
Speaker 1: But I mean like Batman and the DCU people will
be genuinely excited about that, so uh to Anyways, what
I'm gonna transition to Dalton's question here, but what I
will say is about these the next few years Superman,
if that fails, that's crazy to see what's gonna happen.
That was why many I led to the Batman. That's
when we got there Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Same thing. These films are big to see what's gonna
happen with all this stuff?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Who takes over a CEO with Marvel?
Speaker 1: This all these big plays are doing with these characters
like that Captain America tracking we're talking about newscasts.
Speaker 2: That ain't good. I saw a lot of people being, oh,
not too bad for Captain America.
Speaker 1: But it's like the problem is with these movies unless
it's great, which maybe it is, but I don't think
it's gonna be. The amps movies, especially now, are so
front loaded. When it's frontloaded, is ninety five million on
the four day weekend, That to me is like not
even one hundred million. That's it's not looking good. And
I think it's gonna be like a fine movie. We'll
talk about it. I think there's many reasons why there's
issues with it, but I think it's gonna be a
fine movie and it's gonna go away. Thunderbolt's could be
the same thing Fantastic four. That's not a guaranteed hit.
People talk about the First Family all the time, like,
oh yeah, big thing come to Marvel. I believe X
Men's a big thing coming to Marvel. I only F
four is like F four, Like, let's look at the numbers.
Thank you Brent as always for that website. I don't
know if he's listening, but shout to Brent, and shout
to Marvel one. Shout out to David, my co host
on the Giving hosting that show, doing a great job
pulling it down while Brent's on his own sabbatical. But
let's take a look here. Fantastic four, Oh Boy, twenty fifteen,
one hundred and sixty seven These are the totals twenty fifteen.
The worst one one hundred and sixty seven million, rises
over Surfer two hundred and eighty nine million. Fantastic four
three hundred and thirty three million.
Speaker 2: A shout out.
Speaker 1: We are doing the Fantastic four retro right now.
Speaker 2: Check it out.
Speaker 1: On Patron that and Superman. We review all the Superman
movies from Reeve to returns, and then Fantastic Four we
did the unreleased one and then all three of these
all on Patreon. They're coming out like every month you
get one, but they're exclusive there, those retros, so they're
not coming to the main feed. We might drop a
little preview, but the whole series that's on Patreon, so
if you could support us there also get other episodes
at free and stuff. We'd very appreciate that, especially the
X Men. Like when it was not released that one,
we had tons of laugh on that, so that that's
worth the price emission right there, it's five bucks a
cup of coffee. Do that if you have the ability
to the lowest gross and even like, let's see the
numbers MSU, because I think the Marvels is there at
two hundred million or something like that. Right, I'm I'm
giving some of my material for the Predictions cast coming
up soon because I think I heard Dylan Creme think,
oh I think it's gonna do like like pretty good.
Like I heard an after nine. I'm like, is bottom
five good? So the bottom five for the MCU is
two hun I'll round up two hundred million for Marbles,
two sixty two sixty five for a Hulk, Caps three seventy,
Black Widows three seventy nine, and then our turns at
four oh one. So the bottom five MSU, there's only
two films lower than the top Fantastic four. It's not
like Spider Man were even Amazing Spider Man. It's so
funny to look at that as a failure, right, It
like dipped from amazing spamers, Like, oh man, they're in
trouble and they even went to go make a fucking
deal with MCU.
Speaker 2: And all this stuff.
Speaker 1: The Amazing spier Man. Here's my last search for the numbers.
I'm pretty sure it's like seven hundred million or something
like that, right, Amazing Spider Man two. Let's take a
look at the numbers. Oh shit, it's just superring upout
comic books. Here we go. I found that website. Let's
see seven hundred and nine million. If you were tell
Sony any of those films Craven, Madam, Webb Morban's worth
seven hundred nine, they'd be fucking doing shooting star presses
off their desks. They'd be so happy.
Speaker 2: In twenty I was a.
Speaker 1: Twelve I think it was, or thirteen. Win's manyah twenty
fourteenth sorry, seven oh nine million was looked at as
a failure, disappointing. Things are going down. We need to
pull the shoot and go talk to figging company down
to make a deal. That's fucking crazy. That's spider Man.
So that's where inspiermen. You look at it, go, oh,
we get better our numbers than this. It's already hit
by itself. Fantastic Four's biggest thing is three thirty three.
They got the MC hype behind him. They got Pedro,
they got Kirby, they got Quinn. People that are the
guy from the Bear, bigger stars than the other ones,
maybe other than jesscalbel Right. They're probably gonna have down
in the marketing. They're gonna use that doom stuff. They
have tools in their tool bag to use to propel
the fantastic word to be a hit. I'm not saying
it's impossible. The Guardians of Galaxy was a massive hit.
I'm just saying it's not a sure thing. And that's
where all these brands and even then, I am again
more and more worried about doomsane and secret wars as
the closer we get some of the quotes will say
some of the things we hear to me. I do
think it has a very good shot of being the
rise of Skywalker of Marvel, where now luckily with Marvel
they can kind of do a soft reboot. Me. That's
what cigaart Wars are gonna do, right, get a reset
stuff and you go, Okay, people didn't like that, but
we can say this is the new Marvel. And you
can even say if it's lower box office, like, well,
this is the new uh, you know, a new not
even phase like a new universe. So it's kind of
from scratch, and you know you can do it, but
it's gonna be so not exciting. It's gonna be interesting if,
like when you do New Universe and like Captain America fails,
like they're gonna replace Mack you they gonna keep them.
I don't know, but that's where I think like Marvel,
other than a few things like a dead Pull Woverine
two or something like don't get wrong, the Avengers can
be billion dollar movies, both of them, but it's about
what happens after the fact. Sky rids Skywalker many a
billion dollars, but you could argue that last day back
to back like hurt and divide the fantom a lot, right,
So same thing like sure, do you cash in and
make a bunch of money but damage everything going forward?
Speaker 2: Maybe I hope not. I hope doomstay. Like I'm still
not a fan of all news.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about rumors of Danny's gonna stay past Secret
Wars and be like the Doom. It's like, oh, like,
there's a lot of things that I hear. I go,
this is not great to me. There's probably gonna be
some great stuff. But I hope I'm wrong. I hope
they proved me wrong because I don't want the msue
to go away because I love talking about with friends
and you guys and the geek first people and everything
like that.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting next three years. Super Mike says,
what I'm loving about James Gunn is that his announcements
so far put the craze in the spalllight. Absolutely, even
with the directors haven't, but they talk about the com books.
They will have them there with the issues. That is
a huge thing that Marvel's missed on. So I absolutely
agree there that's been great super Mike also continues with Marvel.
It's a characters first, and crads are kind of an afterthought. Oh, absolutely,
they're They're almost I can't even say an afterthought, like
a non thought, a non secuitar of like they don't
even care about them per se, which is mean, but
that's true. Uh, sort of transition into last two coments.
So there's other things we'll talk about in the future,
like Superman.
Speaker 2: What are my thoughts on that. I'm gonna hold them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna holme. We're gonna may come in the future
because this has already gone longer than I thought, because
you know classic me Hemp podcasts in two months really ranting.
But uh, Dalton said, did you watch or and enjoy
Creature Commandos? I did and I didn't. In both ways
where I watched it, I've not finished it. I did
not feel the poll to finish it. I I think
it's a good show and maybe those last few episodes
are really great. There was some stuff I was spoiled
on because like there's just friends of mine that get
screeners and they can't keep their mouth shut. So I
knew the Batman thing was going. Have now muted those
friends and be like, hey, don't do that. It's great,
you gotta screener, but you're gonna be like, oh gosh,
what's coming. And then like ambitious gift where it's like, okay,
so Batman, you're gonna see Batman and it's not it's
gonna be ambiguous and great, thanks, good for you. You
got a screener.
Speaker 2: Good job.
Speaker 1: So for me, I liked the show. I think this
is my biggest thing with James Gunn, or I guess
I liked why I saw the show.
Speaker 2: I prefer James.
Speaker 1: Gunn when he has guidelines, Like, out of all his
comic book stuff, Suicide Squad was the lowest. Now, Peacemaker
was really good. I don't know where i'd rank that all,
but I think I still rank the Guardian stuff higher
than the Peacemaker. There was some great moments, but stuff
on that show where it's like, all right, this is
too much for me, or over the top of the
sense I don't like, or its just not driving with me.
When he doesn't have, you know, limitations, I think he
can just go kind a banana sandwich. And that's why
I am excited for Superman. And there's some things that
I thought we're looking pretty great and some things that
were looking a little iffy.
Speaker 2: But I think that.
Speaker 1: He works better when it's here's the circle.
Speaker 2: You can get to the edge, but you got to
stay in the circle.
Speaker 1: I think when it's like here's a axe and you
can go through, gonna do whatever, I think it gets
a little lost. That troumocide comes out a bit too much.
That is hit or missed though, right, some of that
stuff really work, some of it doesn't. Super Mike says
that Jered Robot was peak Creature Commandos. That's interesting. I
think it was a great and this thing. I didn't
think any episode was bad. I really enjoyed that Jered
Robot episode. My fair episode was the Weezel episode from
what I've seen so far, absolutely heartbreaking love that I
know Taylor Kirkland, we're not digging and.
Speaker 2: Some other people.
Speaker 1: I absolutely fucking loved the weird, weird romantic like Franken
Sein Frankenstein's Monster, the Bride of like frank and the
Monster seeing Frankenstein and the bride getting it on the
tailor that was created like this love sort like I
actually loved all that. That felt very like Robert Eggert's like, oh,
this is weird and messed up, Like there are some
stuff I really loved about the show, but there's it
didn't feel like the actual I liked a lot of
the characters, so I just didn't I didn't really care
about what was going on with like Sir in the
Island and the princess, like I thought there's gonna be
some twists, and the fact that she's just very always
sectionally like oh, I've never fucked a man has been
and strong as you've been full and it's just like alright,
and it's not even like like usually you might do
that and you may have the character not attracted to them,
And that's why it's funny because he's like, leave me alone,
like I'm not setually tracking you. But the whole time
root Flag Senior is like trying to hold a boner.
He's like, oh my god, like should I sleep with
this lady?
Speaker 2: Like a lot of that stuff just didn't work for me,
and I just didn't feel to me.
Speaker 1: I was watched week to week and I missed an episode,
like I'll get to it and I will finish it
for sure at some point, for sure before Superman, I guess,
But I didn't feel the need. So Creature Commandos for
me is like the least like the lowest James Gun thing.
And for me, it also didn't give me a good
feel of what the DC is gonna be like, because
even he said that it's like, well, it's like a taste,
but not everything will be like this Superman is to
me the real taste of like, kay, what is the
DCU going for? What's the tone? What's the vibe? Because
if this was the tone vibe Creature Commandos, I'd be worried.
I'd be like, oh, the universe is dead arrival. That
can't be the tone for the entire thing. That can
be one thing. But if this was the transsetter, absolutely not,
which I don't think it is. So I liked it,
but I didn't finish it. And that's the things where
I talk about, Like being on the podcast, it was
nice to be like, you know what, I don't need
to finish this, you know, like Evanalian season three, where
it's like, oh, this is Brewer every week. I'm disappointed.
Speaker 2: It's like and I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Even I was liking creat Your Commandos. I was like,
you know what, I'll come back this don't need to
see this, you know, it's I get what it is.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 1: Cool. Uh. And last question I'll take right now because
I was the only planning, like, I set to go
about an hour and we're gonna be hitting the tir mark.
But h clay said, which movie of twenty twenty five
you're most anticipating and you're also more Oh sorry, which
movie of twenty twenty five that you are most anticipating?
Are you also most worried about? And why? For example,
for himself, F one is one I'm most anticipated by.
But I do worry that maybe this director was a
one hit one or a top gun Maverick, and he
may not recapture the same feeling his other movies certainly
have not. And you hit the nail on the head
of why. I think, Yeah, you said F one. I
think there's someone else in the discord that said F
one is their most anticipated. That's why for me, F
one is not I've seen enough of Joseph not Krasinski.
Speaker 2: What is it you even put it there? Kazinski? You know,
top gun director.
Speaker 1: I've seen enough Spiderhead or whatever it was a few
of the things where it's like.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And again, I'm not a car guy, so it's not
a my Ali. Javier Bardem's in there and Brad Pitt,
but Javier I'll watch anything with him in so I
will watch it eventually. So what am I most worried about.
I'm trying to think. I don't think I have and
I made a mistake because I've been trying. My goals
this year is for the ten years to actually do
a bloopers episode or best stuff in the past four
years we go to like twenty eighteen nineteen and it stops.
I want to get the ones that years I haven't
because I have them saved. I just had time. That's
not a promise, by the way. But so I was
listening to maybe Tom Cruise really did Ghost Rek, Top
Gun Mavericks as that's buff and I suppose might not
be wrong. That happens a lot of time with Cruise,
a lot of time with other people. We've heard that
about Reynolds before, Like it is tough to say how
much of who was what right because Cruise has such
a big hand in his movies. But when I was
re listening to the two, which sounds weird, I know,
but I just didn't write anything down. So I was
relistening to our movie anticipation preview, which I was happy
because there's some stuff like, oh, that's a good best
of them, that's really funny. Things I forget because we
record so much. But in my top five, I completely
forgot about Sinners. I was like, oh, I'll put Saw
in there, which I want, man because I love Saw,
but Sinners I'm absolutely super excited for. Right, So I'm
trying to think what my one Sinners know. I trust Coogler.
Speaker 2: I think that's no lower than at least a seven.
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the stuff Coogler does, so I'm
not really worried about. I know some people think, oh
it's too much going on, or they didn't love Wakana forever.
Not me. Wankana forever. I thought I did a great job,
but he had it still is like a nine out
of ten. I'm I'm fine with that. God, And there
is like Mickey seventeen that like same thing. Though anything
a bunge on Ho's done, I've not been disappointed. So
let me pull U two that and twenty five because
I think for sure, I think there's one that I
had thought of and I was like, oh, that's the
one with the bullet but like and even the Monkey,
Like I'm not I'm anticipating it, but I can't. It's
not like one of my most anticipated so I'm just
trying to see which one it could be because I
trust Bong with Mickey seventeen, it's not that so like
and that's the same thing like if you guys didn't
listen to the twenty twenty five predet like most of
the ones like Thunderbolts or capt America, Like I'm not
really Fantastic four, Like I'm not really anticipating them that much,
not that excited by it. Like I'm excited for Superman
to see the Fallout, and I hope that I enjoy
the movie, but I'm not that worried about and.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a fine movie, but I'm
not like dying to see it.
Speaker 1: I also don't like that the.
Speaker 2: Saw movie is not on the schedule anymore, so that's
not good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I sort of disappointed Clay, but I don't
think I have one that I'm too worried about it all. Really,
Like I guess out of the two between Sinners and
Mickey seventeen. I guess I would say sinners because maybe
because Ryan Cooler's never done horror, it's a different bag
where Bong Jungho has already done weird sci fi stuff. Right,
maybe horror is not gonna be Ryan Coogler's bag and
it's just not gonna work out. But I have high doubts.
Speaker 2: But I guess that would be the one.
Speaker 1: But I'm not too worried, Like all the movies that
I'm really worried about are none un anticipating. I guess there.
That's what I could also say is Saw, because Clay,
you're not a Saw fan, but s Pubbs he's seen
a bit of this, and Mike where the rumors is
with this new Saw film, they're having like tons of
creative issues and differences and it's like a set of
producers versus another set of producers. So that to me
gets me very worried. And the director he did Six,
which to me is second best sell of all time.
He did Final Chapter. He didn't let that the whole
bad bag, but there's a whole story behind that. But
then he did Oh God, I guess it was just
Saw X right, and that was great, But he he
posted a gift of the end of that movie and
it's tom Bell and he's walking through the door and
there's the sun set and it looks like him saying goodbye,
and it's like, Okay, why is the director posting this
very ominous Travis Light gift of like where's this guy going?
Speaker 2: So honestly, Clay, that would be it. Like I know
Aubs says, I've accepted that song isn't.
Speaker 1: Having any happening at this point at all. Wow. Yeah,
And it's tough, like I don't want to be like
like more of it, but like it's funny that they
did Saw ten. I think we all greed of, Hey,
keep doing this because Tom Bell's not gonna be around
too much longer, so just keep doing stories about him
as Jigsaw and then when he's gone, reboot it. So
the fact that it was like, hey, we're gonna go
make it another one real fast, and then it's just
been halted to the fact that it was delayed a
year and now in calendars it's not even dated anymore,
which is not a good sign.
Speaker 2: So let's say it does come out Clay in October,
that's the one.
Speaker 1: Because it's not good like it's different when it's like
a director and producer, right, But the fact it's like
infighting between the producers and the rumor was like, it's
just about the direction they wanted to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: I know some soft fans had speculated, which thought, like,
are they gonna do like a Halloween thing where they
they go off in a new like this is the
new connuity because like Spoils Alert, but like to Bell's
character dies in the third one, right, and a lot
of people in retrospect said, like, eh, that was probably
a mistake because we got pigeonholed into all these flashbacks.
Speaker 2: There's some people speculate like what if they saw Elevin,
but it's really.
Speaker 1: Like Saw four, all this weird bullshit, right, So, and
Mike says it kind of like the Eternal War going
on with James Bond movies. Broccoliss Amazon, I agreed to
that to like a point, which that's fucking crazy too,
Like I wasn't here for when that happened.
Speaker 2: But the fact that the Amazon's like, we want to
make it like.
Speaker 1: The MCU that that's you bought, you paid a lot
of money for the wrong franchise especially, which is dumb
because the Broccolis have like final sale over this.
Speaker 2: It's not like the Broccolis had out for sale.
Speaker 1: They bought it. And the Broccolis are like, like George Lucas,
remember when he said this stupid stuff about Disney buying
Star Wars and then he regretted it, but it wasn't
his anymore, so he's just kind of screwed in this deal.
They just bought the rights like work with the Broccolis.
The Broccolis still own bond, so it's like they can
do whatever they want or say what they want, but
if the Broccolis don't say yes, they can't do anything
with it. So it's but at least with that, it's
like that's the big corporation Amazon and then the producers
right where we saw it sounds like it is just
all the producers in a civil war and they can't
decide on what to do. And like I said, I
don't know what this issue is. I don't know how
hard it is to make a saw, Like I know
what heart is, but I mean, like how hard is
to get that going? Especially the last one made them
a lot of money. Lionsgate needs a hit, so it's
odd that this is taking as long. So I'm not
with SPO's where I don't think it's never gonna happen
because they make money. But I don't know what's gonna
happen this year. I suppose says we need a Fox
first excellent level timeline spit for Saw, and I would
be fine that I don't, because like the movies, don't
go away. Hoffmann doesn't go away, like Jamie Lee Curtis
has been killed off how many times in Halloween and
we still got Halloween twenty eighteen, and I really enjoyed
that movie. The follow ups not as much. But still
I'm fine because it's like they're fictional movies. It's not
like it's not sacrilege those other movies Saw four to
Final Chapter, they'd still be there.
Speaker 2: They're not going away. If you want to do some.
Speaker 1: New, great, let's do this. Let's see where we could
take the franchise. Because that's the problem with Saw x's.
I think everyone agrees. When you do all the twists
at the end, you're in a box where you can
only do a twist. With this particular story. Saw was
always known for. It was like an MCU where you're
gonna watch all these and hey it's Saw eight, but
we're time back to Saw too, and you're like, oh
my fucking god.
Speaker 2: Because this is a prequel. Now you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't move past certain situations. It's you're stuck in
this timeline. So I would be fine. I was like, yeah,
fuck it, let's let's change it up and let's have
a new continuity and let's see where it takes us.
And maybe some producers like I worked on those films
and that doesn't work. But it's like or like I
don't like that, but it's like, we've seen how many
franchises do this already. Just go with the flow, try
it out, see what happens. Asus imagine we get Spiral
too instead of this.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I didn't. I would not want that. I
definitely had. I really enjoyed Saw X.
Speaker 1: There's things about that I hate that we can't go
in certain directions, but definitely prefer Saw X over Spinal
big time, as supp says. And now they already did
the ultimate twist and Saw ten where the twist was
there was no twist. Yeah that's off the table, right,
But let me look one more time before in this guys,
because I'm sorry, Clay, I thought I had one that
I was really like, that's the one, and I'm not
sure if it was horror because saw it just came
to me and like I said, the superhero stuff, like
I'm worried about, but it's not anticipated. I guess the
only other one too, might be this wasn't the one,
but like I wonder how twenty years later it is
gonna play like that's one where I could see like
a law of hype, law of excitement. But if it's
just kind of fine, that's gonna be a a gut
punch is maybe over exaggerating, but I think the idea
the Gimmick of twenty is late twenty years later and
Killy Murphy is coming back eventually, and this idea of
a trilogy being filmed at a similar time, like I
think there that could be tons of fun and I'm
hoping for something really good, but that.
Speaker 2: Could also ben Yeah, Prayer bad Lands. There's another one too.
Speaker 1: I'd say I'm not worried about it because I liked
the last one, but that's one that, like I super
Mike just said, Prayer bad Lands. It's tough because like
I have nothing to worry about from the last movie, right,
it's the same crew, just a new story, new take
at my So for my no, I'm good. So I
don't have that same thing like you right now, Clay
with f one where like I'm worried it could go
a certain direction other than with Saw. But uh, yeah
that's it for Tres told you, like I said, or
what February second now, So expect another episode in March,
and I am doing a lot of like different ones
as far, like with the NFL the Football Chat, we're
doing that after nine just about football, and we did
a bunch of bets and the movie watched there In
a couple of weeks, we're gonna do an Oscar predictions cast.
So that's the same thing where that used to be
a Trast told you, but I had much more fun
last year bringing on you know, people like SPO's and
Mic and doing a pool.
Speaker 2: Talking about it and that way.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get little you know, Travis Solos with
some additions. But yeah, and then sometime in March, I'll
do as Trast told you, but yeah, I'll be back
this week. We got we're figuring it all out because
Dylan has moved and he's just waiting to get his
Wi Fi back. But this week we got Brave New
World newscast predictions. They're supposed to be Fantastic four trailer.
We got the movie draft, video game draft, Marvel draft.
All this stuff is recorded this week. It might not
be releasing right away, but that's why I go over
Patron and you can get that right away. But thank
everyone to chat. Think everyone said the questions. Like I said,
there's a bunch of stuff I didn't get to, but
they'll come up with newscast. Same thing. If there's newscast
this week. If there's something that you're like, oh shit,
I want to try to talk about that, send it
my way and I will talk about it.
Speaker 2: So it's fun to be back. I'm very excited see
what the week.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to podcast now at the Boys because I
love doing there's the two sides. I love doing this
just ranting. I love doing this live. I do apologize.
I wanted to do it in the middle of the day,
but the kids were sick so they didn't go skiing
this weekend, and I can't do a podcast in the
middle of day. Most of the time with all five kids.
That's a little difficult. So that that's why there's times
like John was like, oh, do we have to do
the the NFL Patreon cast this day. I'm like, yeah,
that's the only day I got. Brother like, that's where
the kids are gone, so that's all I got.
Speaker 2: But no, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to back. Thank everyone that supported me. Was
gone support the video, had some fun with me. I mixed,
you know, and again the people that sent me well
wishes that thought I was going. I apologize if you
feel like, oh, you motherfuckered me, you know, you know
it was lying in my face or something. But I'm back,
not going anywhere. As I said, if the ship goes down,
I'd be going down, but uh, they ain't going down.
We're just starting. Gonna be a good year. Thank you
very much. And when you hear from you next, I'll
not be Warren