Speaker 1: Actually no, no, no, no no, not that music, not that music.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this one instead.
Speaker 2: That is the boss music for starting three bigs in
Speaker 2: a game against a team that launches threes.
Speaker 3: I had a dream last night and a guy named
Speaker 3: Alan assassinated.
Speaker 1: He did in a certain sense, it's not great.
Speaker 2: I had a dream that an angel came to me
Speaker 2: and told me where the four tablets of college basketball are?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 3: None of them all came None of them are?
Speaker 1: No, no, And then just like that, but sure, we'll
Speaker 1: throw it back for just a little bit longer.
Speaker 2: That's specifically for you.
Speaker 1: Now, why would you ever say that landa.
Speaker 3: Well, you know why. It's related to reasons and.
Speaker 2: Also reasons like Oregon's a great matchup for Kansas, but god.
Speaker 1: There's history here. I did pick them to win, and
Speaker 1: they lost by well one scream for every point they
Speaker 1: lost by. We're gonna be here a while. Now that
Speaker 1: that was just five. I won't push it that many
Speaker 1: times because I'd.
Speaker 3: Have to push animals for long enough to spee to
Speaker 3: show up in your mirror at like ten thirty night.
Speaker 3: Is that how that works?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: It's actually Bill self who was attempting to take out
Speaker 1: a bunch of white cougars with three bigs, including a
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and he's now oh s b yu.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 1: I'll open with a question here on inside the paint.
Speaker 1: Here's something I was gonna say for later, but I'm
Speaker 1: curious if you guys know the answer to this. What
Speaker 1: do Trent Johnson, Craig Smith, Mark Pope, Steve prom Kevin Young,
Speaker 1: Josh Eilert, Mike Boyton, Darien Debry, Grant mccastley, and Jerome
Speaker 1: Tang all have in common?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: All? All three were primary subject suspects in the assassination
Speaker 3: of Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 1: That's a very noble guest, Cam, But we have not
Speaker 1: seen the current administration officially unveil that report, so I
Speaker 1: can no longer confirm or deny that. But I will
Speaker 1: take I will take a second guest, Landon.
Speaker 2: Do you have one those guys that are all undefeated
Speaker 2: at home against Bill self?
Speaker 1: If they're all guys that beat Bill self in their
Speaker 1: first ever matchup? Yeah, yep, first matchup in the league?
Speaker 3: Zodiac killer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Sell?
Speaker 3: Well Bill, Yeah, Yeah, that's Scott Drew.
Speaker 1: Bill's self is true horrible against coaches in the first
Speaker 1: matchup between him and uh and said coach in a
Speaker 1: Big twelve game. It's unbelievable that the guy wins like
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of his league games and he's barely
Speaker 1: a bat in five hundreds against coaches in his first
Speaker 1: it's dying. It's it's dwindling faster than Landon's attendance percentage
Speaker 1: over the years did earlier in the first half of
Speaker 1: this season. But it is uh. Landon's pulled his average
Speaker 1: back up here in the last few weeks. Let's see
Speaker 1: if Bill can do the same. So Kansas loses the
Speaker 1: BYU and not end by beat, I mean get absolutely
Speaker 1: run out of the widest gym they will ever play in.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the year, we said that we
Speaker 1: were the post widest. Well, yes, at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, we said that we were going to post
Speaker 1: one sad land and in the notes for every lost
Speaker 1: Kansas took this year. And I thought that would maybe
Speaker 1: be like, you know, three or four sad landings. There
Speaker 1: are nine sad Landings in the notes and we are
Speaker 1: not even into the last week of February yet. Sources
Speaker 1: say that that is bad and definitely is a also
Speaker 1: circumstances warranted of some very angry drops at Bill Self's expense,
Speaker 1: which do not want to play. But you know what,
Speaker 1: there we go, little delayed, damn it one for ever
Speaker 1: every loss, I would have to push it nine times.
Speaker 1: This is ip on Rock Chuck blog.
Speaker 2: I am Ryan Landrith, I'm Lennon Fields.
Speaker 3: If a forest fire starts in Los Angeles but kJ
Speaker 3: Adams isn't on the front line starting to fight the fire,
Speaker 3: did the fire actually start? The fire will win? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, if kJ was given one of those
Speaker 1: fire hoses and asked to shoot at it from fifteen
Speaker 1: feet away, he'd probably need to.
Speaker 3: Spray it the wrong direction.
Speaker 2: But boy, when we hustled to the hose, guys, he
Speaker 2: would Yeah. I had pavement slap the fire truck and
Speaker 2: run right over to that hose.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Bill self bell like, look at the injury he's splayed,
Speaker 3: spring down civilians with the fire hose. I can't wait
Speaker 3: to see what he does next.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Elevan, Auburn firefighters have already taken care of
Speaker 2: every ounce of fire they've ever had. Well, and that's
Speaker 2: not so true for Alabama this week.
Speaker 1: But yeah, though, so Alabama became I believe, the second
Speaker 1: basketball team in the last like twenty years to score
Speaker 1: ninety eight points and shoot fifty three percent from the
Speaker 1: floor and lose in regulation by double digits. Like it
Speaker 1: is hard to do what they did on defense.
Speaker 2: They ticking up one hundred points in their last two games.
Speaker 1: And Kansas has barely scored one hundred and like thirty
Speaker 1: in their last two games. What would happen if Kansas
Speaker 1: played Alabama? How many points would Kansas score?
Speaker 2: It would be at least fifteen. It would be similar
Speaker 2: to what we just watched in provo.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas would get into the sixties if they
Speaker 1: played Alabama. The Crimson Tide might get into the hundreds.
Speaker 3: Kansas could only get into the sixties because they'd have
Speaker 3: so many possessions just based off of the pace of
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's talk about it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: If Kansas played Alabama, Hunter Dickinson would just be stuck
Speaker 2: like glitching at mid court, not sure which way to
Speaker 2: run because Alabama would be going so fast up and
Speaker 2: down the court.
Speaker 1: And don't worry, we'll talk about this.
Speaker 3: Townsend be squinting out of paper on the sidelines, going,
Speaker 3: oh we didn't see that. Wait, hey, it's a ports on.
Speaker 1: Twitter BYU ninety one, number twenty three Kansas fifty seven
Speaker 1: points math. And honestly, they kind of got lucky to
Speaker 1: get into that much they were They had like forty
Speaker 1: eight points with two minutes left.
Speaker 2: If BYU wanted to, they would have been him by
Speaker 2: forty yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were up by darn near that at
Speaker 1: that one point. So here's your game story, which there
Speaker 1: really isn't one. It was just a shellacking. And what
Speaker 1: ties that twenty twenty one USC loss, which was an
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament loss as the biggest margin of defeat in
Speaker 1: the Bill Self era. The Jayhawks were curb stomped to
Speaker 1: oblivion from the opening jump. They fell behind eight to nothing,
Speaker 1: and that was that. All three of us and Notes
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, well we go do something else if
Speaker 1: it wasn't minus thirty degrees in snowy outside. But I
Speaker 1: guess I'll keep watching this display of crap. And it
Speaker 1: got lost shout of spite. The moment that you knew
Speaker 1: it was really going to go poorly was when BYU
Speaker 1: built a twenty five to twelve lead and then made
Speaker 1: just two baskets over the next seven minutes, giving Kansas
Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities to scratch right back into it. Somehow,
Speaker 1: Kansas did not cut into the deficit at all. BYU
Speaker 1: made two shots in seven minutes and led by thirteen,
Speaker 1: which is the same number of points they led by
Speaker 1: at the beginning of that drought. The score was forty
Speaker 1: six to twenty six at halftime. It stretched all the
Speaker 1: way to an unbelievable Alabama against North Dakota State November
Speaker 1: exhibition game worthy eighty to forty two at its worst,
Speaker 1: and yes, only a couple of David Koit garbage time
Speaker 1: threes saved them by losing or saved them from losing
Speaker 1: by even more than this. This game deserves to be
Speaker 1: the biggest margin of defeat mis self era that USC game.
Speaker 1: They were down by like twenty five for a while
Speaker 1: and then it got so much worse at the end.
Speaker 1: To get to thirty four this game, Kansas needed to
Speaker 1: make like three threes in the final two minutes to
Speaker 1: get it back to thirty four.
Speaker 3: Chris Paul makes a huge three to cut the lead
Speaker 3: to forty two.
Speaker 2: That was every basket Kansas made in the second half.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, and they opened the second half, Dickinson averages
Speaker 3: what a he averages By the way.
Speaker 1: They're down twenty points to open the second half, and
Speaker 1: Hunter hits a three and obviously at that point you're
Speaker 1: not thinking here they come, but you know, okay, make
Speaker 1: their first shot. They forced a couple turnovers and then
Speaker 1: it just went right back into the litter box after that. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the part where I normally ask for you
Speaker 1: guys's thoughts, but they lost by thirty four? What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts? What can they possibly be?
Speaker 2: H This was genuinely I think this will go down
Speaker 2: as like one of the more memorable Kansas games that
Speaker 2: I've watched in like recent memory, like the last handful
Speaker 2: of seasons, to be honest, like heck of an experience.
Speaker 2: Heck of an experience watching this. Obviously, the starting lineup
Speaker 2: came out, which was of great interest to us in
Speaker 2: that Bill self started decided to start kJ Adams at
Speaker 2: the three with with Zeken, Dwan, Hunter and Flory. We
Speaker 2: all thought that was very funny and we all thought
Speaker 2: that was an omen for Kansas to lose the game.
Speaker 1: Do you think he did that because he thinks that's
Speaker 1: Kansas's best chance, or do you think he did that
Speaker 1: almost a little a little trolley. Do you think he
Speaker 1: kind of did that like, Okay, let's see all they
Speaker 1: like this, because I don't think there's any chance that
Speaker 1: he looked at this matchup and thought kJ at the three,
Speaker 1: that's the answer. I think he was kind of trolling
Speaker 1: a little bit slash sending.
Speaker 2: A little bit of that. I also think depending on
Speaker 2: how much you believe some of the rumors that we
Speaker 2: will probably talk about later with what happened after the
Speaker 2: Utah game and just with the general like tone and
Speaker 2: ten of the vibes in the locker room have been
Speaker 2: both between the players themselves and the players and the coaches.
Speaker 2: I think this was also Bill self saying like there's
Speaker 2: been talk of this team doesn't care, and I think
Speaker 2: we've all agreed that it doesn't matter so much whether
Speaker 2: they We've all said that it's not about that, and
Speaker 2: I think that's been true because I don't think it
Speaker 2: matters so much if you, like are a huge Kansas
Speaker 2: Jayhawk guy. It's cool if you are, but I don't
Speaker 2: think that matters inherently to you being a good basketball
Speaker 2: player at Kansas. But one thing I did not think
Speaker 2: was that players didn't care about the team at all,
Speaker 2: and that might be true, Like based on some of
Speaker 2: these things, like there might be a little more of
Speaker 2: that than I ever would have thought, that that players
Speaker 2: are like bought out on the team as a whole.
Speaker 2: Regardless of the name of the team, there's out. And
Speaker 2: so I think there was that going into the starting lineup.
Speaker 2: Is that I think there was a little bit for
Speaker 2: Bill self, who I still think has grossly mismanaged this team.
Speaker 2: But I think that was a statement from Bill Selth
Speaker 2: and like okay, like I have to start a two guard,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna start a zeke and then I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play the guys that actually want to play for the
Speaker 2: team that actually might put that is a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's definitely subjective, that's definitely anecdotal, But I based on
Speaker 2: everything that we've heard and based on certainly the vibes
Speaker 2: around this squad, I don't think that's far fetched at all.
Speaker 1: Cam, what do you make at this?
Speaker 3: I mean, they just kind of suck, I see.
Speaker 1: I still I still don't know how much of it
Speaker 1: that's true, because these are talented basketball players, like like
Speaker 1: they're bad all right, I'm not here to sit here
Speaker 1: and say why you're wrong, and they're gonna get hot,
Speaker 1: but like, objectively, we're not going to do that. Two
Speaker 1: and a half months ago, we watched them beat Duke
Speaker 1: on a neutral court to get to seven and zero
Speaker 1: and defeat at that moment in the first month of
Speaker 1: the year, to beat the team that is currently leading
Speaker 1: the ten and then the team that is currently leading
Speaker 1: the a SEC on a neutral court. Watch that happen.
Speaker 3: But they've regressed?
Speaker 1: Yes, why is that? Were they not good to get with?
Speaker 1: Is it coaching?
Speaker 3: I think it's both. The roster doesn't fit you you
Speaker 3: can't see it's it's just insane because you're sixty.
Speaker 1: Saying that the roster doesn't fit and that they suck
Speaker 1: is different, like I'm not I'm not telling you I
Speaker 1: have an answer, Okay that that's that's more what I
Speaker 1: agree with. Yeah, because it just doesn't make sense. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make logistical sense when you look at you know
Speaker 1: that the a phrase that you hear a lot in
Speaker 1: baseball is you are what the back of your baseball
Speaker 1: card says you are. But it's a different sport and
Speaker 1: basketball because the team cohesiveness matters, like well, you look
Speaker 1: at the back of these guys as baseball cards, so
Speaker 1: to speak, and you think they should be really good.
Speaker 3: Okay, here, here's the thing. You look at these guys.
Speaker 3: Aj Store played on a bad Wisconsin team. He had
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands a lot. He was driving
Speaker 3: on his own, he was doing his own thing.
Speaker 1: Johnson was a five seed last year. They weren't bad.
Speaker 1: He was the best player on the second best team
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, How did these score his points? He had the
Speaker 3: ball in his hand, he had space, he could drive
Speaker 3: to the rim. Guess what he doesn't have now with
Speaker 3: kJ Adams playing with Hunter Dickinson, he doesn't have space.
Speaker 3: He can't drive that it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Broke him. And Bill Selthams said that at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the season that he got in his heat.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then you look at a guy Hunter Dickinson,
Speaker 3: good basketball player, really good basketball player. Michigan fans will
Speaker 3: tell you right from the get go when he came
Speaker 3: to Kansas. Guess what he puts up Numbers doesn't translate
Speaker 3: to much else. Same thing we see here he puts
Speaker 3: up number doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're saying this? I will admit that
Speaker 1: I thought Hunter Dickinson was going to wind up being
Speaker 1: the best center that self has ever had. At the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I thought he was a n
Speaker 1: aate Smith candidate. I thought that it was all gonna
Speaker 1: come up roses this year for Hunter. It obviously hasn't happened,
Speaker 1: and his shortcomings are being exposed by the night. Do
Speaker 1: you think that we're saying any of these things about
Speaker 1: Hunter decats and if he has an adequate set of
Speaker 1: teammates around him, because I don't. I think that Hunter
Speaker 1: is still the least of these teams problems. They just
Speaker 1: lost by thirty eight, and he scored a quarter of
Speaker 1: their points. Like I'm not saying they're consequential baskets, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I if you put if you put
Speaker 1: a three and a four next to Hunter, like I
Speaker 1: sent that. There's a screenshot I watched the other day
Speaker 1: of the Kansas Michigan State NCAA tournament game from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: The team that started Josh Jackson, Devon se Graham, Frank
Speaker 1: Mason Spee, and uh and Landon Lucas. And Landon Lucas
Speaker 1: is going up for a hook shot and there are
Speaker 1: four Jayhawks on the perimeter and all four of their
Speaker 1: defenders are right in their face, leaving Land and Lucas
Speaker 1: and his defender the only two people within fifteen feet
Speaker 1: of the basket, so much space to work with. If
Speaker 1: Hunter had those teammates, you don't think he'd be a
Speaker 1: first team All American either. Oh, I think he'd be.
Speaker 3: He'd be quite He still misses tons of those short shots.
Speaker 1: Though we've all said all year, he's not a problem.
Speaker 1: We've set all your The problem with Hunter is he
Speaker 1: does have his shortcomings, and he needs better pieces around
Speaker 1: him than most guys that put up those kind of
Speaker 1: numbers to get the most out of him. I don't
Speaker 1: think Hunter Dickinson is in the top ten problems with
Speaker 1: this team, And yeah, I think that the I mean
Speaker 1: there was a possession where they force fed him a
Speaker 1: pass in this particular game where he immediately had two
Speaker 1: guys right on him and a third within three feet
Speaker 1: of him as kJ just kind of stood there seven
Speaker 1: feet from the basket like they're not doing any favors.
Speaker 1: There really isn't a whole lot to analyze with this
Speaker 1: game itself, just because they got so curb sump like
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be one of those shows where we
Speaker 1: sit here and say, a Zeke had twelve points, what
Speaker 1: did you make of his game? I just kind of
Speaker 1: grouped it all together. But Landon, I think it's more
Speaker 1: consequential to just read some of these stats. Why don't
Speaker 1: you read that paragraph that says stats, Well, I play
Speaker 1: the Curb your Enthusiasm music in the background. That sounds fitting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's do it. This ends with a question
Speaker 2: that I do think it will be actually fun, So
Speaker 2: there will be a little bit of fun here if
Speaker 2: you like pain. Yeah, stats go. Thirty eight points is
Speaker 2: the most they've trailed by in the Bill Self era,
Speaker 2: and the most that Jayhawks have trailed by in at
Speaker 2: least thirty years. Brian's been trying to dig, and he's
Speaker 2: asked around on Twitter to find the last time that
Speaker 2: they trailed by that much. He hasn't found it yet,
Speaker 2: So if you do know, hey, let us know.
Speaker 1: A couple of people seem to think it seriously. Wasn't
Speaker 1: that There's a chance it may have been in the
Speaker 1: late seventies the last time they trailed by this much.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if it was that long ago
Speaker 2: at all. Now, here's some really fun things. Kansas is
Speaker 2: now six and fourteen in road games in the last
Speaker 2: two years. Remember when I said, oh, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: their road troubles are fixed. When they're like three in
Speaker 2: one on the road, Well, that's like five straight ls.
Speaker 1: Not quite that many, but it is like four all
Speaker 1: by double digits. Except you jah, I guess almost.
Speaker 2: They're eighteen and sixteen in conference games, even the conference
Speaker 2: they won fourteen times. Well, they've lost sixteen games in
Speaker 2: that league in the last two seasons. And if their
Speaker 2: tenth lost by at least ten points in the last
Speaker 2: two calendar years, it was just the sixth time in
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty four games of bill self they
Speaker 2: trailed by at least thirty points during a game. Can
Speaker 2: you name the other five?
Speaker 1: I know the answers to this, but go okay.
Speaker 2: Cam. One is obviously the Kentucky drubbing that happened. One
Speaker 2: is got Texas game at Allen Fieldhouse where they lost
Speaker 2: like eighty four to fifty three. I believe did they
Speaker 2: drill by thirteen?
Speaker 1: Not true, not quite didn't quite.
Speaker 3: Get okay, okay, I can't remember.
Speaker 2: There was a Temple game they lost by a lot
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia in it was a while ago, did they That.
Speaker 1: Was also the Kentucky team They did not quite make
Speaker 1: it there, but that was that was terrible.
Speaker 3: What did they lose? Okay, so we're just talking. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think of massive blowouts for Kansas. I remember
Speaker 3: Texas Tech last year, I remember Houston.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one that you probably don't remember. Yes, correct,
Speaker 1: you're at two. The Houston one last year is one,
Speaker 1: and the Kentucky game in fourteen is one. I'll give
Speaker 1: you one that you guys probably won't remember, land in
Speaker 1: Biggas that the Texas game got at Allen Field House
Speaker 1: was twenty seven, by the way, a game that they
Speaker 1: only trailed by four points with seventeen minutes left and
Speaker 1: then wound up just getting run out of the gym.
Speaker 1: One that you won't remember is there was a game
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five when they were ranked second
Speaker 1: that they went to who else but Villa Nova and
Speaker 1: lost by a billion points and trailed by thirty at
Speaker 1: one point. The other years that you are missing, you
Speaker 1: are missing one from twenty nineteen, and you're missing one
Speaker 1: that we have already talked about on this.
Speaker 2: Show, already on this show twenty nineteen had some really
Speaker 2: bad l's losing by thirty so much. I don't remember
Speaker 2: specifically what were they.
Speaker 1: The twenty nineteen game feat the podcast recap was a
Speaker 1: Nick solo show because I was dying with the flu
Speaker 1: and I don't know what you were doing. It was
Speaker 1: in Lubbock. They lost ninety one to sixty or something
Speaker 1: like that to Texas Tech. And then the one we
Speaker 1: already talked about is USC Oh right, well stupid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's been if you're doing the math on that,
Speaker 1: in the first seventeen years of Bill self, they only
Speaker 1: trailed by thirty points twice at any point in those games,
Speaker 1: and now that's four times in the last six seasons
Speaker 1: that they've managed to have a game where they've fallen
Speaker 1: behind by And there's been plenty of others that were
Speaker 1: damn close, like that Texas game you mentioned. I think
Speaker 1: they lost by twenty nine at Texas Tech last year,
Speaker 1: Like there are several that are The Temple game was
Speaker 1: really close. There have been a handful of games. Is
Speaker 1: there that push this? Is it close?
Speaker 3: Is there something to be said about the fact that
Speaker 3: we've seen more blowouts in recent years under Bill soelth
Speaker 3: than previous.
Speaker 1: I think it's more that other teams are shooting threes
Speaker 1: at a higher clip across the board and college basketball
Speaker 1: and the blowouts are potentially more lopsided. But also, yes,
Speaker 1: the average quality of Kansas teams hasn't been as good.
Speaker 1: You look at the last since the streak ended, since
Speaker 1: the streak ended twenty nineteen, I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that that was too much that went wrong.
Speaker 1: They had a really good team. They were preseason one.
Speaker 1: They started ten to zero, and then dok hurt his
Speaker 1: wrists and was out for the year. Vic left the team.
Speaker 1: That was probably the if you want to put bad
Speaker 1: luck on anything, that was a pretty bad luck year.
Speaker 1: That team probably wins the Big twelve. I Udoka doesn't
Speaker 1: get hurt so and then the next year they came
Speaker 1: back and were the best team in college basketball, So
Speaker 1: we'll say nineteen's a one off. Twenty twenty one was
Speaker 1: a disappointing season for Kansas standards, but they were still
Speaker 1: a three seed, and that Corps wound up winning a
Speaker 1: national championship the next year, and then in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three they were a top three team in the country
Speaker 1: until Bill selves heart gave out at the start of
Speaker 1: the postseason. So like, I don't really think you can
Speaker 1: look at any sort of drop off until you get
Speaker 1: to the start of the twenty twenty three to twenty
Speaker 1: four season. And even last year they were seventeen and
Speaker 1: three on the day Kevin McCuller hurt his knee, Like
Speaker 1: that team wasn't going to wind up being great, but
Speaker 1: that team was doing really well until McCuller got hurt.
Speaker 1: This has been the first year and any of them
Speaker 1: where everything just the floor just dropped out about two
Speaker 1: thirds of the way through the year.
Speaker 3: I will say this, like there is some like perspective
Speaker 3: angle that you can take here. I have tons of
Speaker 3: friends there who are you know, big Michigan State fans
Speaker 3: and Tom Izzo had a run of seasons like the
Speaker 3: season Kansas is having right now that spanned like three
Speaker 3: consecutive years. This is probably hopefully a one off for Kansas.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right, everything has fallen out. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's the end of the world, but it is
Speaker 3: kind of interesting that we've seen this happen now second
Speaker 3: year with the same core three players, combined with Bilsov's
Speaker 3: hard issues. I don't know, it just sucks.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find that stretch people are talking about
Speaker 1: with Izzo. I'm wondering if it was sixteen to eighteen,
Speaker 1: uh wherever they had he lost in the first weekend
Speaker 1: three years including a loss as a two seed to
Speaker 1: a fifteen and then a loss as a.
Speaker 3: Three seedge to Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, then that was then. I'm trying to find
Speaker 1: when that was. That was just because then they made
Speaker 1: the final four of nineteen, then the tournament gets canceled.
Speaker 1: They were a playing team in twenty one and then
Speaker 1: round of thirty two loss, Sweet sixteen loss, round to
Speaker 1: thirty two loss. So tom Izzo has made the second
Speaker 1: weekend one since before COVID and yeah, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: still acts like he's this master of the tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just just really disappointing. Land And I mean, this is
Speaker 1: not a team that two weeks ago even we were
Speaker 1: saying is go into the final four. But two weeks
Speaker 1: ago I said that they would go eight and ten
Speaker 1: in their last ten games, and the reaction was, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's maybe a bit of a stretch, but seven and three,
Speaker 1: eight and two, they have some winnimal games. They're gonna
Speaker 1: rack up some wins. Two weeks ago, I said, I
Speaker 1: compare them to the twenty one team, and that team
Speaker 1: wound up being a three seed because they won enough
Speaker 1: games in February to get the record up. We thought
Speaker 1: that the flaws were there and that the deep tournament
Speaker 1: run maybe was trending towards not super low. But we
Speaker 1: didn't think that this team getting a twenty games wouldever
Speaker 1: be in question, or twenty wins, and boy, now there's
Speaker 1: people that are wondering if they'll if they'll have a
Speaker 1: winning record in their last five games.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm I'm probably I lean towards yes, but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the camp of if I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's that that they're. The thing that really
Speaker 1: starts to move that dial is if they really have
Speaker 1: quit basketball ability alone, they should get three, if not
Speaker 1: for their last five, Like if they if they all
Speaker 1: regroup and said all right, we're in it and and
Speaker 1: you new effort and heart wasn't gonna be a question.
Speaker 1: They're probably favored in four of their last five games.
Speaker 1: But if they've really quit that, there's no floor on
Speaker 1: what could happen. They could lose to Oklahoma State, if
Speaker 1: they'd given.
Speaker 2: Up yeah, and that, and that's the thing. And even
Speaker 2: outside of that, we we had been talking about some
Speaker 2: or it had come up a couple of times that
Speaker 2: Cam and I were on the train of Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can really, uh quite analyze this
Speaker 2: team in light of the history of Kansas basketball, because
Speaker 2: in the last two years they've just been so different
Speaker 2: that they have not like trends have not applied in
Speaker 2: the same way that many other years have. Though you
Speaker 2: are right, Ryan, from a pure ability standpoint, they should
Speaker 2: not have a losing record in their last few games
Speaker 2: if there is buy in, If there is real buy in,
Speaker 2: they should win three of the games, and those are
Speaker 2: the home games. But that's sort of the wild card here.
Speaker 2: That is the factor that I've never seen that is
Speaker 2: genuinely on the table, it seems with this team, is
Speaker 2: if Bill self has actually lost the locker room in
Speaker 2: these last five games and six or seven, because they
Speaker 2: still will make me, they will make the tournament. People
Speaker 2: saying they're gonna miss the tournament, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Their non conference resume is gonna pull them through. And
Speaker 1: also their name, they're big name Kansas.
Speaker 2: There's no way, they miss sore at least seven games left.
Speaker 2: But if they really have just like if they're out
Speaker 2: out they like Ryan is right, there is no floor
Speaker 2: as to what what could happen in the last games here.
Speaker 3: I mean when you have Bill self going on by
Speaker 3: the way, guys, not to break from the action. Here,
Speaker 3: I'm watching the hockey. I have a dude that's dressed
Speaker 3: up like Thomas Jefferson on my television screen with a
Speaker 3: bald eagle. Next to this is Ben Franklin. I saw
Speaker 3: bends there. Oh my goodness, screaming America. Get him an
Speaker 3: AR fifteen and some freedom. But uh, speaking of Bill
Speaker 3: self AR fifteen shooting his team in the forehead, I mean,
Speaker 3: the team might have quit, but it is crazy for
Speaker 3: him to go out there and say, yeah, we the
Speaker 3: team needs to get away from each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that isn't bunkers almost march.
Speaker 2: That if nothing else shows you where this team is.
Speaker 3: Got to get him some freedom.
Speaker 1: Well, here are the bigs. Uh, the individual stats, the universe,
Speaker 1: the universally bad stats really shouldn't be analyzed here, So
Speaker 1: I just group in him by persis. Hunter Dickinson had
Speaker 1: no freedom. He had three guys on his back the
Speaker 1: whole night. He had twelve and fourteen right of the team,
Speaker 1: five for thirteen shooting. So here's some Dickinson analysis for you.
Speaker 1: Uh and yes, I've been a staunch hunter Dickinson defender.
Speaker 1: I still don't view him as a usual player. He's he,
Speaker 1: He is not being helped by his teammates, and he
Speaker 1: is the face of this team. So it's gonna ride
Speaker 1: or die with him, and it's dying hard right now.
Speaker 1: So Dickinson in his three seasons at Michigan shot sixty,
Speaker 1: fifty six, and fifty six percent, and that is quite
Speaker 1: good and what you'd expect from a seven footer. Last
Speaker 1: year at Kansas and conference play it went down to
Speaker 1: fifty one percent, and this year he is barely by.
Speaker 1: Like if he misses his first two shots against Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: it will go under fifty percent from the floor in
Speaker 1: conference play. Next to him, kJ Adams predictably did nothing
Speaker 1: besides throw down two lob dunks in twenty five minutes,
Speaker 1: finishing with four points and two rebound in twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Floria Madunga also started all part of Bill Self's Master
Speaker 1: three big lineup plan, and Flori had just two and
Speaker 1: three and twenty one minutes. Credit Bill self for not
Speaker 1: just nuking aj Store and Ryland Griffin season. He also
Speaker 1: nuked Floria Madunga's season when he yanked him out of
Speaker 1: the starting lineup in the midst of the best stretch
Speaker 1: of his freshman's career. Okay, that Dickinson analysts or analysis
Speaker 1: is everything here for me. You can say all the
Speaker 1: problems with Hunter exists. His effort isn't great all the time.
Speaker 1: He's not a very good defender, he's lazy, he takes
Speaker 1: plays off. All those things I will hear, But him
Speaker 1: going from sixty to fifty six to fifty one to
Speaker 1: fifty percent from the floor, He's getting a lot of
Speaker 1: double teams. It's not helping. Should he be better finishing
Speaker 1: around the rim? Yes, his touch is not the best
Speaker 1: despite his seven to two side, But you cannot tell
Speaker 1: me that his teammates are doing him any help right now,
Speaker 1: not on the offensive end, and he probably hurts them
Speaker 1: on the defense end. So it's a perfect marriage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was once again truly apocalyptic on defense like
Speaker 2: I've never notes.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. Cam Is is doing some damage
Speaker 1: control by saying no guys. Hunter really is a good player.
Speaker 2: Hunter certainly is not being helped by the lineup and
Speaker 2: everything on offense. I've never never seen a player that
Speaker 2: is otherwise of his quality be so completely lost on
Speaker 2: a consistent basis on defense, though, it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: stunning to watch.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the white guys. I guess we do
Speaker 1: have a drop for them, and we knew it would
Speaker 1: be a problem. Much more interesting than the white guys
Speaker 1: is what Cam and I are typing in these notes,
Speaker 1: and I really can't read them. I so all instead
Speaker 1: just read Richie Saunders made four threes?
Speaker 3: Boy was he good?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it wild? Watching Richie Saunders, who is was playing three?
Speaker 1: And I know that may surprise you because you may
Speaker 1: think that the three man is only allowed to be
Speaker 1: good at hustling. But Richie Saunders making four threes as
Speaker 1: the three man, And then they had like I wonder
Speaker 1: what it what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What's your mindset? And the BYU huddle when the three
Speaker 1: man catches the ball on the perimeter and you just
Speaker 1: can be like, okay, well I'm not guarding him, Like
Speaker 1: how weird must that be? On defense? To see the
Speaker 1: opposing team essential small forward, catch the ball on the
Speaker 1: perimeter and know that you don't even have to put
Speaker 1: a hand up.
Speaker 2: Can I Can I listen to other players that have
Speaker 2: traditionally been listed at small forward in their career? Sure,
Speaker 2: go for it, Paul, George Kawhi, Leonard Paul Pierce, James Hevan,
Speaker 2: all men that at one time or another have been
Speaker 2: traditionally listed at the position of small forward, otherwise known
Speaker 2: as the three. I will present the for their context.
Speaker 1: Continue, I'll give the context, and none of them dive
Speaker 1: on the floor like kJ none of that.
Speaker 2: That's actually so facts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys ever think that Richie Saunders has
Speaker 3: used a hard r in his life?
Speaker 1: In that university? They can't even say. They can't even
Speaker 1: say anything more than gosh darn can they They can't
Speaker 1: have doctor Pepper's out there?
Speaker 3: Probably what do you think that they can have?
Speaker 1: And they can't have coffee. They can't have coffee, right,
Speaker 1: it's doctor Peppers caffeine, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's caffeine. You can have seventy five wives, but if
Speaker 3: you have a Doctor Pepper, you're going to Dante's seventh
Speaker 3: ring of Inferno.
Speaker 1: And speaking of b yu Man, that student section was awesome.
Speaker 1: Like from the jump they showed. They showed the student
Speaker 1: section rocking to Snoop Dogg and right then there's this
Speaker 1: is Gonna Go Real, Kansas, This is Gonna go real.
Speaker 1: That also to be known here, Trevin Nell made for
Speaker 1: Edgar Demon made one, Dallan Hall made a couple more,
Speaker 1: even the Black Guy made three. It was an all
Speaker 1: you can eat night at the Marya Center. As a team,
Speaker 1: BYU was fourteen for thirty six, shooting threes at thirty
Speaker 1: nine percent is really just a little bit above their
Speaker 1: season average. This is what happens when you build a
Speaker 1: team that shoots threes. An abstract concept to one Billy
Speaker 1: Eugene self yyep, all right, Cam, tell me about de
Speaker 1: one because he's kind of the one guard that I've
Speaker 1: officially as of this day and on this show, I've
Speaker 1: had I've had enough of Dewan Harris.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, welcome to the one show.
Speaker 2: Later, welcome to the club, Ryan, Yeah, we are all.
Speaker 3: In the club. We're We're we are an elite club
Speaker 3: of degenerates. Dewan Harris didn't score until the final TV timeout,
Speaker 3: and he missed three shots in the first four minutes
Speaker 3: and was part of the reason Kansas got off to
Speaker 3: a terrible start. He still played thirty one minutes, though,
Speaker 3: because the rules of basketball state that he must play
Speaker 3: as much as possible, combined with kJ Adams in route
Speaker 3: to a blowout loss. He scored two points and thirty
Speaker 3: one minutes on one for seven shooting, including zero for
Speaker 3: five from three. He did have seven assists, though, which
Speaker 3: really didn't mean much of the great's totality of things.
Speaker 1: My only take on this land and I'm sure you agree.
Speaker 1: If you're a fifth year point guard at Kansas, get
Speaker 1: the hell off this team. If you can't score till
Speaker 1: the final TV timeout, Like enough, this is a joke.
Speaker 1: Your team's getting blown out. You imagine Sharon Collins, he
Speaker 1: would rip the paint off the wall in the locker
Speaker 1: room before he would go thirty five minutes and his
Speaker 1: team getting baptized by Mormons without scoring. That that what
Speaker 1: a joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank Mason would not let this happen. If Frank
Speaker 2: Mason got blown out a couple times, but he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have two points on one for seven. Deavontae Gram wouldn't
Speaker 2: let this happen again. Davante Graham also got blasted a
Speaker 2: couple times. These guys are not above getting getting dunked on.
Speaker 2: Everyone gets dunked on sometimes. But like Dwan Harris is
Speaker 2: not a good enough point guard. Like some people were saying,
Speaker 2: this is near one. Maybe maybe you were absolute elite
Speaker 2: level genius. Maybe maybe maybe you were Albert Einstein of
Speaker 2: basketball Takes. I don't know, but Harris is not good
Speaker 2: enough to play on a on a team like this.
Speaker 2: Dewan Harris, this is this is the real problem. We
Speaker 2: said it in a lot of ways, and I'm fully
Speaker 2: I'm seeing, I'm seeing through the matrix. Finally, is that
Speaker 2: all of these players, every single one of them, needs
Speaker 2: the perfect cast to be good. Dewan Harris needs great
Speaker 2: players around him to be good, needs a perfect supporting
Speaker 2: cast to be good. Hunter Dickinson needs a perfect supporting
Speaker 2: cast to be great. None of them can be good
Speaker 2: on their own. None of them can be good in
Speaker 2: a vacuum. I suppose that's true of all basketball players.
Speaker 2: But check back on my small forwards list. Those guys
Speaker 2: could be good.
Speaker 3: I like how Franfacillo, whenever he commentates the Kansas game
Speaker 3: at this point, is like, guys, listen, Dewan Harris, fantastic
Speaker 3: basketball player. He just needs prime Paul Pierce, Prime Davante Gram,
Speaker 3: Prime Wilt Chamberlain, Prime Cole Aldrich, and prime Jesus himself
Speaker 3: to be able to lead this team to a national title.
Speaker 3: But he's fine, it's just not a stylistic fit. And
Speaker 3: then he's like kJ Adams, also a fine player. He
Speaker 3: just needs four all Americans around him to make it work.
Speaker 3: Come on, friend, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Dickson really great player, needs for Steph Curry clones to
Speaker 2: mean anything, but he's great.
Speaker 3: He needs Moses to come out and part the red
Speaker 3: seat with his.
Speaker 1: Staffer Nad Layup and Dewan Harris has value. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he should never, ever, ever ever be on a
Speaker 1: college team. He's a backup. He should come off the
Speaker 1: bench and play twelve minutes a game and the defensive role.
Speaker 1: And everyone on Twitter, and I know Christian Brown tweets
Speaker 1: about how he should play because they're buddies, but everyone
Speaker 1: on Twitter that says, oh, but de one cares about
Speaker 1: Kansas that can only go, So that's awesome. And we're
Speaker 1: also like sweet, we can be real critical of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff because they've screwed a lot up this year,
Speaker 1: but I think that with the one Harris, they deserve
Speaker 1: a lot of credit because they've developed Harris into as
Speaker 1: good as they possibly have could could get him. He
Speaker 1: is every bit as good right now as he was
Speaker 1: two years ago. He might actually be a little bit
Speaker 1: worse because he's a worst shooter now than he was
Speaker 1: two years ago.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they they developed him as much as possible,
Speaker 1: and the dudes played by a time. All said and down,
Speaker 1: the guy will have played over one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: games at Kansas, and I'll have scored twenty points once.
Speaker 1: Like enough. Oh he's not good enough, he's not good.
Speaker 2: He could score twenty in their eventual Big twelve tournament
Speaker 2: loss to whatever seed, like nine seed? Who would be
Speaker 2: the nine seed? Let me scroll down Joint Utah again
Speaker 2: or potentially Baylor Landon.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we said that last year when
Speaker 1: we said up, Hunter's out and Kevin's out. D one's
Speaker 1: gonna need to shoot a lot and he took like
Speaker 1: eight shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do rather it was good.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, somebody tell me about the rest of the players,
Speaker 1: like I grouped everybody else here together.
Speaker 2: All right, let's roll here. Zeke Mayo had six points
Speaker 2: on two for nine in twenty three minutes. He sucked.
Speaker 2: There's a rumor that he was involved in a confrontation
Speaker 2: with the coaching staff after the Utah game. Apparently there
Speaker 2: was also other players that we were siding with Zeke,
Speaker 2: so it seems.
Speaker 1: Also he also liked the Instagram post today that said
Speaker 1: that ranked the most disappointing teams in college basketball, with
Speaker 1: Kansas at the top of it.
Speaker 2: Good sign if that is true, that would be more
Speaker 2: defensive than he's been on the court in weeks. Credits
Speaker 2: Ryan Landers for that one AJ Store atrocious again, he
Speaker 2: made one of his five shots. He turned the ball
Speaker 2: over four times in eighteen minutes. David Cooit not the problem.
Speaker 2: He had eleven points in garbage time, did make a
Speaker 2: couple of threes. He made the final score look better
Speaker 2: than it actually was. Ryland Griffin had nine points, including
Speaker 2: two early threes, after not getting the ok to check
Speaker 2: in until Kansas was down twenty two to seven.
Speaker 1: I love the hesitation in your voice there, like you
Speaker 1: were having to read ahead to make sure it didn't
Speaker 1: say something brutal, lee offensive.
Speaker 2: That is correct, That is absolutely correct. I was checking
Speaker 2: very reminiscent of Kansas not attempting at three UNTI they're
Speaker 2: around twenty two to four.
Speaker 1: Againah, that's the malite Newman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking that. And the last couple guys
Speaker 2: here shack More six points fourteen minutes were keys pass
Speaker 2: More made a bucket in eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: So Bill Stell started three bigs, decided to give Dewan
Speaker 1: the most minutes, who again did not score in a
Speaker 1: game Kansas lost by thirty whatever points until the final
Speaker 1: TV time out. He gave Hunter the second most and
Speaker 1: kJ the third most minutes. His buddies won two three.
Speaker 1: He played Dewan Harris more minutes than any combination of
Speaker 1: Griffin quite More and Store combined. Combine those players minutes,
Speaker 1: any combination you want, they won't get more than Dewan
Speaker 1: Harris's thirty one and Store. Oh my god, he's awful.
Speaker 1: Like he is awful. I have I have no idea. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he just like he every time he touches the ball,
Speaker 1: he shoots a brick or turns it over. There is
Speaker 1: he There's never a possession where it goes through him.
Speaker 1: And he throws an ice pass and it ends in
Speaker 1: two points. It's turnover a brick.
Speaker 2: And like to Bill selfs moderate defense here. Not all
Speaker 2: of this is his fault because like aj Storre is terrible,
Speaker 2: like there there have been like Zeke Mayo is an
Speaker 2: absolute like atrocious defender. Ryland Griffin has been fine, but
Speaker 2: has been like pretty underwhelming in comparison to what he
Speaker 2: was anticipated to be coming into the season. So there
Speaker 2: are little things like that. I guess see, I think
Speaker 2: a j storer really bad.
Speaker 1: Really really, I think I think Griffin is the most
Speaker 1: damning thing for this staff. Because Griffin was elite at
Speaker 1: a high major program on a big time stage, and
Speaker 1: he gets to Kansas and doesn't play consistent minutes, the
Speaker 1: shot quality goes down. There is a possession early in
Speaker 1: the second half where he is wide open on the
Speaker 1: perimeter and Kansas is trying to throw the ball back
Speaker 1: to the very top of the three point line to
Speaker 1: set up the offense. All right, guys, let's take twenty
Speaker 1: four seconds to get kJ a touch here like it is.
Speaker 1: It has to just be a Jeckyll and Hide sort
Speaker 1: of switch for him, going from Nate Oates to this,
Speaker 1: And look, Natos hasn't won anything like they got baptized
Speaker 1: by Missouri the other night because they can't stop a
Speaker 1: nosebleed on defense. I'm not saying Natos is a better
Speaker 1: coach than Bill self. What I am saying is, boy,
Speaker 1: I don't know how great Ryland Griffin likes this after
Speaker 1: playing in that sort of offense last year. Like he's
Speaker 1: the piece this year, and and he shouldn't be, because
Speaker 1: he would be a really important piece if he's used correctly.
Speaker 1: But he's the guy, like you can look at store
Speaker 1: and guys and say, okay, but there were there were
Speaker 1: some holes in there game. But Griffin was an elite
Speaker 1: shooter on an elite shooting team, and he gets the
Speaker 1: Kansas and they don't use him right at all.
Speaker 2: No, they play completely away from his strain for the
Speaker 2: most part, which is athleticism and shooting. He's pretty good
Speaker 2: in the open floor and he can shoot the basketball,
Speaker 2: and Kansas doesn't really like to do either of those things.
Speaker 3: We don't really have to flow dribbled around, we.
Speaker 1: Don't really have and oh my gosh, maybe it's just
Speaker 1: because I've watched more teams that don't do this, but
Speaker 1: so maybe it's not true, but it feels like that
Speaker 1: this team has taken more long range floaters and elbow
Speaker 1: jumpers than any team I've ever watched recently, Like, they
Speaker 1: will get blitzed and b why you will make back
Speaker 1: to back threes and the counter is uh de wand
Speaker 1: dribbles for fifteen seconds? Here you go, Hunter shoot it
Speaker 1: from fourteen feet out, brick like, like, why how is
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and then selfs over there getting all
Speaker 1: mad about it? It's like, but but you're clearly not
Speaker 1: calling sets to do other things than that. A Are
Speaker 1: they just moving on their coach.
Speaker 2: The players that he trusts the most. Those are the
Speaker 2: best shots they have.
Speaker 3: That's all I can do.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like this game, like, there's nothing we
Speaker 1: can really say predict their predict their record in the
Speaker 1: next five games.
Speaker 2: Two and three.
Speaker 3: I think they win Oklahoma State at home spoiler alert,
Speaker 3: they lose Senior Night to Arizona. They lose by eight
Speaker 3: hundred points at Houston, and then they maybe lose the
Speaker 3: Texas Tech at home. And what's the other I think
Speaker 3: at Colorado the.
Speaker 1: I think attack is a better as a as a
Speaker 1: harder matchup for him than Arizona.
Speaker 2: I agree, I think, and again this is dependent on
Speaker 2: they want to play basketball at all at this point.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they do. I can't believe I'm
Speaker 3: saying that. I don't know if they really care. If
Speaker 3: you tell me right now, basketball players on Twitter saying
Speaker 3: because they care.
Speaker 2: I do want to. I want to emphasize the point
Speaker 2: though that again I don't This is not like raw
Speaker 2: raw for Kansas or like anti the University of Kansas
Speaker 2: stuff that I think was talking about. Maybe I just
Speaker 2: misunderstood what people men like. They they've quit on the
Speaker 2: coaching staff, and I don't think they there's not a
Speaker 2: very good dynamic that is obvious to see on the
Speaker 2: basketball court too. These guys personally. This is what happens
Speaker 2: when you hire mercenaries.
Speaker 1: You also can't HI favorites. And clearly, based on all
Speaker 1: the reports that are coming out, led by Zeke Mayo's
Speaker 1: liking of these Facebook posts and whatever, clearly the transfers
Speaker 1: feel like they're being treated differently than the course. I mean,
Speaker 1: play Flory More, who is the only person that you
Speaker 1: can play less? If you want to play Flory More,
Speaker 1: it's kJ like, it's obvious what that's directed at. You're
Speaker 1: not liking a play Flory More tweet if you're a
Speaker 1: kJ defender that's not happening.
Speaker 3: And these guys are really good basketball players. They're also
Speaker 3: really smart basketball players. They know, like, you can't sit
Speaker 3: there being a guy that's playing for Kansas going yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense to play kJ more
Speaker 3: than Flory.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they especially if you come from
Speaker 1: systems like South Dakota State in Alabama that played very
Speaker 1: high paced, high score basketball and you were clearly under
Speaker 1: the impression or you wouldn't have transferred here unless you
Speaker 1: just were in pursuit of the biggest bag. Ryland Griffin
Speaker 1: doesn't come to Kansas if he thinks that they're going
Speaker 1: to be slow and ground and pound inside all the time.
Speaker 2: No, because Ryland Griffin expected to start, or at least expect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you want a man on this team.
Speaker 1: And he should have. He should be starting. Most people,
Speaker 1: I think, feel that way, even with his underwhelming season
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't think that the majority of
Speaker 1: fans would tell you he should come off the bench.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, though, at this point
Speaker 2: in season, how much does any of that matter?
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Now they're too deep, they're too deep in
Speaker 1: the weeds. They're cooked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fully agree.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think if you told me right now that
Speaker 1: this team had a you know, if somehow you could
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna try, somehow you could know they're
Speaker 1: gonna that they've they're gonna rally. I think i'd pick
Speaker 1: him to win four of their last five. I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna pick him to lose at home unless that they're
Speaker 1: playing just a juggernaut and they're playing good seat tames.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that i'd pick them to lose
Speaker 1: at home, and I think they should be favored to
Speaker 1: win at Colorado. They probably will be Vegas favorites unless
Speaker 1: the floor falls out before we get to the Tech
Speaker 1: home game. They're probably going to be favored in four
Speaker 1: of the last five games. But like, you can't trust
Speaker 1: them at all. You can't trust them. And if they
Speaker 1: go four and five, which feels like an absolute best
Speaker 1: case right now, that just gets you to twelve and eight,
Speaker 1: Like how disappointing that is in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: If they come out against Oklahoma State and they get
Speaker 1: off to a bad start, like they fall behind nine
Speaker 1: to four, ten to four, and it's a time out,
Speaker 1: are they gonna get booed? What is it gonna take
Speaker 1: for Allen field House.
Speaker 3: I hope they do the list of.
Speaker 1: Camping groups this week. They were like six groups that
Speaker 1: camp for this game like that. I wonder what would
Speaker 1: happen if they are down like forty to twenty eight
Speaker 1: at halftime against Oklahoma State, if they get boot off
Speaker 1: the floor at halftime.
Speaker 2: If they go down like let's just say Oklahoma State
Speaker 2: comes out hot, which Kansas usually starts better at home
Speaker 2: than on the road. But let's say they have a
Speaker 2: road esque start to this game and they're down like
Speaker 2: fourteen to five or something early in this game. Do
Speaker 2: they just is it? Is it a rap?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Do they just stop?
Speaker 1: It'd be I hope that that does happen, because I
Speaker 1: want to see what happens, and like the rest of
Speaker 1: this year is still being written to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: If they have a rally the win one for the
Speaker 1: Gipper sort of performance, it could it could propel them
Speaker 1: in a different direction than if they sleep walk through
Speaker 1: this game and win seventy eight to seventy two and
Speaker 1: go to bull like you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: A win one for the Gipper performance necessitates having a gipper.
Speaker 2: You want to win one four.
Speaker 1: That's that is and they don't like their coach, at
Speaker 1: least some of them don't. The stats in this game
Speaker 1: are horrendous. Thirty seven percent from the floor, twenty eight
Speaker 1: percent from three. They did make three of their five
Speaker 1: to three free throws. Yay. They re minus ten on
Speaker 1: the glass and they turned it over fifteen times. Nothing
Speaker 1: was good about kustrip to Utah. Landon had a better
Speaker 1: trip to Utah this year or in the last year
Speaker 1: than Kansas did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I lost zero basketball games in Utah by.
Speaker 1: A combined that's right. Hey, zero and zero is better
Speaker 1: than zero and two. Now let's talk about some Let's
Speaker 1: talk about some other Big twelve games that won unlike ours,
Speaker 1: maybe games everybody's having more fun than Kansas, even the
Speaker 1: losing teams. I'll reach scores and you guys, I'll be
Speaker 1: to one. I will dish out assists and not have
Speaker 1: to worry about scoring because a point guard only needs
Speaker 1: to do one thing in today's college basketball.
Speaker 3: Right, let's talk Abo or neither.
Speaker 1: Number nineteen Arizona seventy four, Baylor sixty seven Wildcats. You know,
Speaker 1: we wondered how worthy their very good record was. Were
Speaker 1: they playing above their means? Wins like this go to
Speaker 1: show no, they deserve to be a top three team
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona led by double digits in the second half
Speaker 2: in Waco and didn't blow it? Did did? Did Kansas
Speaker 2: know that was allowed? That is allowed. You don't have
Speaker 2: to let the other thing back in the game. Toby awake,
Speaker 2: I'm instead of awake. Toby Awake had fourteen to twelve,
Speaker 2: as Arizona is in outright possession of second place in
Speaker 2: the league. They are indeed really really good.
Speaker 1: Baylor is just so mid I didn't expect Baylor to
Speaker 1: be this mid edgecomb scored like twenty five in this game.
Speaker 1: He's great. Baylor is just really thin. They remind me
Speaker 1: of a Kansas team that didn't have the depth because
Speaker 1: the starting five is very talented.
Speaker 3: Which one what like, which Kansas team that didn't have
Speaker 3: the depth? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. I'm very
Speaker 1: very slow. I'm slower than Hunter Dickinson trying to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Utah seventy four, Kansas State sixty nine, cam rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Kansas State's hot stream. It's as over as quickly as
Speaker 1: it started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're hot. Streak CLASSID about fourteen days. Uh, it
Speaker 3: was a really bad week for the Sunflower State in Utah.
Speaker 3: The state of Utah made Kansas it's bitch.
Speaker 1: It did and b yu both went to and oh
Speaker 1: against the two Kansas teams.
Speaker 3: Back to back is like a uh weld on Bell
Speaker 3: and Jerome.
Speaker 1: It was like a in the soccer whenever they have
Speaker 1: a little pot of four and they just like they
Speaker 1: alternate opponents and uh, the two Utah schools just absolutely
Speaker 1: clabbered the two Kansas schools. This of the four games,
Speaker 1: by the way, between a Utah school and a Kansas school,
Speaker 1: this was the only one that was kind of close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually was very close. And I will say
Speaker 3: Case State got a horrible whistle in this game. It
Speaker 3: was a frocious I watched this game. I cannot believe
Speaker 3: some of the calls the wedding against k State and like.
Speaker 1: Somebody who may or may not have had a few
Speaker 1: dollars riding on a Kansas State money line, Am I right?
Speaker 3: Cam, I think, I think, I think I put a
Speaker 3: five dollars on that. I'm not gonna lie, but it did.
Speaker 3: It didn't affect my night that much.
Speaker 1: Folks, if you are betting on Jerome tang at the
Speaker 1: record of thirteen and thirteen to win late in the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a number.
Speaker 3: For se.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Utes once dominated it again on the glass, winning
Speaker 3: fifty one to twenty eight. In the rebounding edge, they
Speaker 3: got twenty one points from Ezra Asar. Kansas State made
Speaker 3: eight more threes in Utah and they somehow lost. That's
Speaker 3: just impossible.
Speaker 1: So did you know that Kansas is exactly add them
Speaker 1: up one game ahead of Utah and the standings.
Speaker 2: Oh good that I didn't quite realize that. Oh my gosh, Yep,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Oh checks out.
Speaker 1: There, way way, way, way, way more than one game
Speaker 1: separated from this team. Number five Houston eighty Arizona State
Speaker 1: sixty five.
Speaker 2: We made fun of Ryan for picking KU to beat
Speaker 2: Baylor or b b Yu, excuse me, so I do
Speaker 2: deserve to be made fun of some here for picking
Speaker 2: Arizona State to beat Houston. That was really really bad. Hey,
Speaker 2: the Cougars have won more Big twelve road games than
Speaker 2: Kansas has in the last two seasons. Cougars are seven
Speaker 2: to zero and Big twelve road games in this year.
Speaker 2: Eighteen points from LJ. Cryer, who also celebrated his forty
Speaker 2: fifth birthday this week. In case we were wondering, that's
Speaker 2: twenty years in college, folks.
Speaker 1: That man's hairline just looks like, well, it's David Points hairline.
Speaker 1: At this point. It basically just says I have three
Speaker 1: kids and I'm a divorced dad. It happens, but he's
Speaker 1: also there to win basketball his hairline.
Speaker 3: Did you know reads Sunday Comics.
Speaker 1: Did you know that LJ. Cryer in the offseason said
Speaker 1: Kansas was his dream school and he was surprised that
Speaker 1: they didn't recruit him.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Bill good Town has made this team and
Speaker 2: this coaching staff assess his talent like no other.
Speaker 1: They do, especially with three point shooters. Jesus, Bill are
Speaker 1: not innkeeper. Bill was like, sorry, LJ, there's no room
Speaker 1: at this end, and uh yeah, the LJA all.
Speaker 3: LJA sleep at the stable. That's Houston.
Speaker 1: L J. Crier may have more wins over Bill self
Speaker 1: than any college player ever. Right, He's beaten him like
Speaker 1: five times.
Speaker 2: That's actually what that would be a very interesting status,
Speaker 2: which which player has the most wins over Bill self?
Speaker 1: I mean it's Lj's beaten Kansas three times at Baylor
Speaker 1: and twice at at Kansas or at Houston, and so
Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of against Kansas. Yep uh
Speaker 1: to you see you sixty nine, number nine, Texas Tech
Speaker 1: sixty six. I think I just skipped over a game.
Speaker 1: That's fine, Cam, go ahead and read about the horn Frogs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who cares. Jamie Dixon is over five hundred play music.
Speaker 3: TCU might just sneak into the field. I have no
Speaker 3: idea how they won this game, considering they made fewer baskets,
Speaker 3: fewer threes, and did not force many turnovers. Desmond Baine
Speaker 3: got his jersey retired. He is a three man.
Speaker 1: There there's another three man.
Speaker 2: I'll put them on the list.
Speaker 3: He does prefer kJ Adams, would start kJ Adams over
Speaker 3: Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1: Somebody on Twitter said that they're glad that they didn't
Speaker 1: recruit Cooper Flagg because he would come off the bench
Speaker 1: on billion.
Speaker 2: I'm not totally convinced that's a joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nope, not.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I haven't Cooper flag get a floor burn yet landing,
Speaker 1: So I know that says not good enough. That's that
Speaker 1: says that's why kJ beat him. Energy number eight Iowa
Speaker 1: State seventy nine Colorado sixty five. Rest in Peace. Colorado's
Speaker 1: hot streak last weekend to very early in this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right back in the little box goes Colorado. After
Speaker 2: finally winning a game, they got absolutely smacked by a
Speaker 2: much much better Cycle Ones team.
Speaker 1: What's the line on the how many points would I?
Speaker 1: How how close to Kansas would I have to make
Speaker 1: the line to make it enticing for you to bet
Speaker 1: on Kansas at Colorado? If I gave you a straight
Speaker 1: hick them, would you pick Kansas with confidence?
Speaker 2: Not with confidence?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I wouldn't either. I don't know if i'd
Speaker 1: pick him straight up now, depending on what they do
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. Matt Tait was on the on eight
Speaker 1: ten this week. He knows Kansas dolls anyone. He predicted
Speaker 1: they lose in Colorado. He said Colorado walked out of
Speaker 1: the game at Allen saying Okay, we'll see you in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And Kansas isn't showing a lick
Speaker 1: a fight right now. He said, that's a horrible combination.
Speaker 1: They might lose in Boulder at midnight.
Speaker 2: They really might, like they genuinely could.
Speaker 1: YEP, wouldn't put it past them. West Virginia sixty two
Speaker 1: Cincinnati fifty nine. We've got two teams that Kansas has
Speaker 1: racking up l's against in the last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Bill West. Virginia was a three and a
Speaker 3: half point favorite that led by nine with thirty seconds
Speaker 3: left and they did not cover. For those of you listening,
Speaker 3: that's why you should not sports bet. I did bet
Speaker 3: on this, but I got it at two and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh hey then just barely because yeah that allegedly Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is right there with Kansas in terms of disappointing Big
Speaker 1: twelve teams. I thought they'd be a lot better and
Speaker 1: they're in twelfth place.
Speaker 3: When Kansas won it, Yeah, Kansas won in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We were like, guys, the world wolves are over. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they won fifty four to forty game back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were no red flags at all about winning
Speaker 1: fifty four to forty. No, sirree, Bob Oklahomas Kate one
Speaker 1: hundred and four U s F ninety five Landon. Don't
Speaker 1: look now, but a fun Big twelve game has a second,
Speaker 1: fun Big twelve game has hit the World Trade Center.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I love jokes about tragedy, by the way,
Speaker 2: keep them coming. Cameron Brice, Bryce Thompson at my point exactly.
Speaker 2: Bryce Thompson had a career high twenty five points, and
Speaker 2: it came in, is this actually this cannot actually his
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty second college basketball game, right, Oh.
Speaker 3: It's not, but it feels like it.
Speaker 1: It is since nine eleven.
Speaker 2: Goodness, I'm when we retirement job. Congrats to Brice. He's
Speaker 2: getting hot, just in time to walk into Allenfield House
Speaker 2: and smack his old team UCF. Turns out Kansas is high.
Speaker 2: Scoring outings against UCF were indicative of nothing because UCF
Speaker 2: is atrocious on defense. May have one hundred and nine
Speaker 2: to LSU, ninety nine and ninety one to Kansas, eighty
Speaker 2: nine to Arizona State, who is bad, one hundred and
Speaker 2: eight to Iowa State, ninety three to Cincinnati, who has
Speaker 2: struggled offensively all year, and now one hundred and four
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State, who also is not very good at all.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so ed Bryce Thompson's very first collegiate basketball
Speaker 1: game as a freshman. He took the court, got ready
Speaker 1: to run out there, and they said, well, now we'll
Speaker 1: take a moment of silence. For two months ago, his
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks in New York City and he was only
Speaker 1: eighteen years old when that happened, and still here making
Speaker 1: three's at Kansas. I couldn't believe he hadn't scored twenty
Speaker 1: five yet, considering how many times he's played at Allen
Speaker 1: Field House.
Speaker 2: And he's had some pretty good games at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 2: like he's been alright there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been their leading score like three years in
Speaker 1: a row. And this is his first twenty five point game. Fun.
Speaker 1: In fact, his old high school coach it's yelled at
Speaker 1: Rockshok blog on Twitter when I said he couldn't shoot. Well, yeah, buddy,
Speaker 1: it took him two thousand games to score twenty five points.
Speaker 1: Wind up beat right on that one, more right than
Speaker 1: I was about the Kansas BYU pick Big twelve standings.
Speaker 1: We're really starting to get further apart here. Houston's gonna
Speaker 1: win the league. They're fourteen and one, Arizona is twelve
Speaker 1: and three, Iowa State in Texas Tech at eleven and four,
Speaker 1: and BYU not Kansas BYU. They're the team that's in
Speaker 1: outright fifth getting to nine and six.
Speaker 2: Tide Tide for six is Kansas Baylor and TCU at
Speaker 2: eight and seven. Truly the middle of the league, West Virginia,
Speaker 2: Utah and k State. Now what do all those three
Speaker 2: teams have in common? Folks? They beat Kansas, they are
Speaker 2: tied for now I remember.
Speaker 1: Making the tournament. Oh, I like mine better Land and
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: And they are seven and eight, and then Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State tied for twelve. They are five and ten.
Speaker 3: And just like my quality on the show, I bring
Speaker 3: up the rear here, number fourteen, UCS four and eleven,
Speaker 3: Number fifteen Arizona State three, twelve player in the conference
Speaker 3: though with but sheher g hod and number sixteen Colorado
Speaker 3: one in fourteen still do.
Speaker 1: They're not going to be due after next Monday. So
Speaker 1: what if you take out those bottom five teams who
Speaker 1: Kansas is a combined five and zero against, they are
Speaker 1: what three and seven against the top ten teams in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 2: They haven't played over on the state yet, so let's
Speaker 2: not counter eggs.
Speaker 1: But they have two wins over UCF. They beat UCF
Speaker 1: twice Senior Leadership three and seven against the top ten
Speaker 1: teams in the Big twelve. That's that's I'm the same
Speaker 1: as their road wreck.
Speaker 3: Great job.
Speaker 1: Haven't beaten a team that finished in the top five
Speaker 1: of Big twelve play on the road since two thy
Speaker 1: and twenty, the day that they wanted Baylor, right before COVID.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time Trump was the president. Back then,
Speaker 1: it was so long ago.
Speaker 3: Others started with a gorilla dying in a Cincinnati zoo.
Speaker 1: That is true. Atlanta thinks was justified, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: As soon as it's put in front of me.
Speaker 1: There was chaos everywhere in the SEC. But one thing
Speaker 1: that we have come to expect and know as a
Speaker 1: passage of life is porter mosers. Awful Oklahoma team getting
Speaker 1: let's rull that up so every they get absolutely demolished
Speaker 1: by every quality squad they play. They were crapped on
Speaker 1: what I read. I read all that I should have
Speaker 1: liket Cam read this from the start. Yeah, you probably
Speaker 1: would have. In an eighty five to sixty three loss
Speaker 1: at number two Florida that allegedly made one of the
Speaker 1: three of us some money. After starting thirteen to zero
Speaker 1: on the season, the Sooners have lost ten of thirteen
Speaker 1: conference games, which is kind of like what Kansas has
Speaker 1: done since November.
Speaker 2: Number one Auburn struggled, but they did defeat Arkansas by
Speaker 2: seven or twenty one Missisipi State upset seven Texas A
Speaker 2: and M at home, and seventeen Kentucky blew out. But
Speaker 2: the winner in the conference was number fifteen Missouri. They
Speaker 2: hung one hundred and ten on Alabama and sent the
Speaker 2: Crimson Tide for their second straight loss. The final score
Speaker 2: of one hundred and ten to ninety eight. Mark Mitchell,
Speaker 2: who's from Kansas City by the way, went off for
Speaker 2: thirty one points. Cale Grill added twenty five. That's Bryce
Speaker 2: Thompson's career high. For those keeping track fun facts, Missouri
Speaker 2: scored just fourteen four points in this game than Kansas
Speaker 2: did in their entire two game stint in Utah. So
Speaker 2: that's how That's how the season's going, folks.
Speaker 1: Missouri is nasty. They are the second best team in
Speaker 1: the SEC right now by record, by the way, they're
Speaker 1: in second place in the SEC. They are so slept
Speaker 1: on they're gonna do something stupid in the tournament because
Speaker 1: it's Missouri. We know how it goes. But they are
Speaker 1: like a three seed right now, and that may be
Speaker 1: too low. Just a nasty basketball team.
Speaker 2: The SA in one year so ridiculously stacked though, like
Speaker 2: Auburn Florida, Alabama, Texas A and m Missouri Mississippi.
Speaker 1: But Missouri's be a lot of those teams. Missouri won
Speaker 1: at Florida, Missouri, there be Alabama. Missouri has wins over
Speaker 1: They have went over Mississippi State on the road by
Speaker 1: like thirty.
Speaker 2: Like this is a good basketball.
Speaker 1: Team in Colombia. And Alabama just absolutely historic stuff. Nate
Speaker 1: oates through his clipboard and got a technical in this game.
Speaker 1: It is really hard to score ninety eight and lose
Speaker 1: in regulation, like by double digits.
Speaker 3: That is hard to do.
Speaker 1: And Missouri, by the way, they missed sixteen free throws
Speaker 1: in regulation and still scored one hundred and ten.
Speaker 3: Kansas won't even shoot sixteen free.
Speaker 1: Throws in a game, so no, they shot five in provo.
Speaker 3: Heck yeah, in the Big Ten, of course, I forget
Speaker 3: this one. Number fourteen Michigan State gather first win over
Speaker 3: Number thirteen pduing four seasons by taking them down at
Speaker 3: home seventy five to sixty six. They're within a half
Speaker 3: game of first place Michigan, who hosts the Spartans in
Speaker 3: an arbor this weekend. On a scale of sticking the
Speaker 3: important part of your body into a blender and ten.
Speaker 3: How happy am I to see Tom Mizzo having success. Well,
Speaker 3: lucky for you guys, I purchased a ninja blender last
Speaker 3: and I'm waiting to break it in.
Speaker 1: Well, if they win in Michigan, it might be time, buddy,
Speaker 1: because the winner of that game is gonna win the league.
Speaker 3: And it's icy. There's no winner there.
Speaker 1: Michigan State is Michigan State. They're gonna get like a
Speaker 1: five seed and they're gonna lose to a team that
Speaker 1: they should in the NCAA tournament, and people are still
Speaker 1: gonna be like, but Tom Mizzo usually wins in March
Speaker 1: like it's they're the same team every year, and Kansas
Speaker 1: beat them, so they might be disqualified just on merit.
Speaker 1: At this point number eleven, Wisconsin scored ninety five and
Speaker 1: blew out Illinois on the road, which is hard to believe.
Speaker 1: It was at it was in Madison, I guess whatever.
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe because that a team can lose
Speaker 1: aj Store and get better on offense. I don't know
Speaker 1: how that's a possibility, but it is. Wisconsin has never
Speaker 1: been an offensive firepower and they are immediately after losing
Speaker 1: aj Store.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over on that happening two years
Speaker 2: in a row. Number three, Duke, they took a giant
Speaker 2: jukie on Virginia, as God intended every team do for
Speaker 2: the next thousand years hopefully so Man Virginia deserves truly
Speaker 2: nothing on a basketball perspective. They won eighty to sixty two.
Speaker 2: They get to fifteen in one in acc play. Behind
Speaker 2: them is a two way time between number eighteen Clemson
Speaker 2: and twenty five Louisville, Who's back from the dead, folks.
Speaker 2: They're both thirteen to two in a conference that is
Speaker 2: going to struggle to get five NCUBA births.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Someone said North Carolina as a bubble team, and I
Speaker 1: assume they mean by bubble team they will be blowing
Speaker 1: bubbles as a three seed in the NIT because there
Speaker 1: is absolutely no way that we need an NCAA tournament
Speaker 1: with Texas, Oklahoma or North Carolina anywhere by it. So,
Speaker 1: Mark Purgon was in the stands for some reason wearing
Speaker 1: a UNC pullover. I think he works in the athletic department.
Speaker 1: Getting a nice glimpse at Hubert Davis. You know the
Speaker 1: meme of the astronaut getting ready to shoot the other astronaut.
Speaker 1: It may as well have been that, because he's absolutely
Speaker 1: taking that man's job very soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a matter of a month and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it for Hubert, it has to be.
Speaker 1: He's awful.
Speaker 3: Future Mall Easter Bunny. Speaking of future Mall Easter Bunny,
Speaker 3: all of the guys that played for DePaul did to
Speaker 3: Paul win. No, they got crop dusted by twenty four
Speaker 3: points at home to Rick Pattino, who also cosplays as
Speaker 3: a vampire.
Speaker 1: Did you go watch the game Camerick Patino was in
Speaker 1: your city?
Speaker 3: I no, I had to protect all the women around me.
Speaker 3: Did he have Hopefully?
Speaker 1: You know. The good news is all the apple Bee's
Speaker 1: is have closed since, so I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: Wayzer says that woke up needing Plan B after Rick
Speaker 1: Patino was in town this time. No, that did happen, Land,
Speaker 1: And that's not even that's not Ryan making a bad joke.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely what happened. He had to pay for it.
Speaker 3: No, I believe you allegedly, Well, I don't think that's alleged.
Speaker 1: I think she sued him in court and there were
Speaker 1: did do it. Yeah, I think that that's what the
Speaker 1: rare times where allegedly doesn't want ranked teams to lose.
Speaker 1: Since the last show, Number four Alabama back to back
Speaker 1: weeks in the middle of a stretch where they played
Speaker 1: their last six games against ranked teams. They're zero and
Speaker 1: two so far. They lost at missour Arena.
Speaker 2: Number seven Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: They lost Mississippi State, number nine Texas Tech lost TCU.
Speaker 1: Number thirteen, Perdue lost in Isoville, and number twenty three.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh buddy, uh oh our buddy bill.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Buckle up, here come nine of them.
Speaker 2: Damn damnit, damn it, damn it, damn it, damn.
Speaker 3: It, damn.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, we got an hour and four minutes. You
Speaker 1: think that's the moment when they turn it off in
Speaker 1: not the nine to eleven Bryce Thompson joke or the
Speaker 1: Applebee's joke or the crop dusted left reference? What What
Speaker 1: do you think it was? What do you think is
Speaker 1: the line? What do you think there has been a moment.
Speaker 3: We want to give them the line? Right here? Can
Speaker 3: I can I just give them a line? I can
Speaker 3: I draw a line in the sand? Can I just
Speaker 3: stop the podcasting this tracks? Did you guy?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Here's your random fact of the week. I'm bringing it back,
Speaker 3: two of them right in a row. Do you guys
Speaker 3: know the chuck e Cheese? The real name is Charles
Speaker 3: Earl's Cheese, Charles Earl Cheese.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Charles Entertainment Cheese.
Speaker 3: I think the east for Earl is that.
Speaker 1: The Are you talking about the actual Chucky cheese or
Speaker 1: the animatromic that you've allegedly done dirty things.
Speaker 3: With or I didn't allegedly go with it. I just
Speaker 3: said I would rather have a Chucky cheese animatronic penetrate
Speaker 3: me than watch Patrick Mahomes play for Kansas in the
Speaker 3: Elite eight. And that's a fair statement.
Speaker 1: Genmly couldn't the other facts.
Speaker 3: The other facts of the night is, are you guys
Speaker 3: aware that hippos can live up to forty to fifty
Speaker 3: years and they can run thirty miles per hour on land,
Speaker 3: which is thirty miles per hour faster than Bill Sooff
Speaker 3: can move.
Speaker 1: Right now, I was gonna say it's twenty seven miles
Speaker 1: an hour faster than Hunter Dickinson can to sprint, but
Speaker 1: that they both work.
Speaker 2: I didn't know the second part. I did not know
Speaker 2: the first. That's a long time to be running that fast.
Speaker 1: So if you thirty miles an hour, that is insane.
Speaker 3: And they want to they will care and beasts think
Speaker 3: about a Chevy and Pala that's alive. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: I might need to sit down here, Cam, I'm don't
Speaker 1: make me, don't make me go there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because yeah, Ryan watches Escape from Madagascar and gets
Speaker 3: a raging hard on for the hippo. It's about Gloria
Speaker 3: that way. I couldn't remember her name. I thought it
Speaker 3: was Oprah Winfrey.
Speaker 2: Oh he does, he remembers, He remembers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a reason that Cam knows Charles
Speaker 1: Entertainment cheeses.
Speaker 2: You know what, screw it.
Speaker 3: You guys are getting three facts as we don't care anymore.
Speaker 3: This this podcast sucks. We're burning into the ground. Did
Speaker 3: you guys know the Captain Crunch? Captain Crunch, the real
Speaker 3: name is Captain uh oh man, I'm gonna butcher this.
Speaker 3: I believe it is a Magellan Horatio Crunch. Wow, how
Speaker 3: do you know that?
Speaker 1: How does anybody know that?
Speaker 3: I have a lot of problems and a lot of
Speaker 3: free time.
Speaker 2: That's a quick game, Captain.
Speaker 3: You sound like Magellan Horatio Horatio Crunch. Yes, h O
Speaker 3: R A C I L Crunch Magellan, Horatio time.
Speaker 2: You can hang out with it's Horatio Magellan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Horatio Magellan.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's beautiful style. Do you know the boat
Speaker 2: that Horatio Magellan is the captain of.
Speaker 3: The Titanic, which Bill Soft just sunk with an iceberg
Speaker 3: named kJ Adams.
Speaker 2: That's better than the real answer.
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that one.
Speaker 1: I posted the ascarcbs late in the day on purpose.
Speaker 1: I did it like four hours before we started the show,
Speaker 1: and there's still twenty nine responses. Good lord, here we go.
Speaker 1: Most of them are not questions that we have any
Speaker 1: reason to answer, like, you know, should we kill ourselves
Speaker 1: caliber question?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: At at Marscene coat underscore FC. If Kansas does not
Speaker 1: win another game this season, hypothetically they go zero and five,
Speaker 1: do they miss the NCAAs? No?
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's close. Close.
Speaker 1: You think there's seventeen and fifteen and they get in.
Speaker 1: I think they'd be out in that case.
Speaker 3: Uh, I kind of want to see that happen.
Speaker 2: It would be fifteen. Yeah, you're right, you're right, they do.
Speaker 1: Look at what have you done for me? Lately a
Speaker 1: little I don't know that.
Speaker 3: Would be I'd love to see what would happen there.
Speaker 1: It would be bad. This is a Creighton account that
Speaker 1: has gone back and forth with me a little bit
Speaker 1: since they played in December. At kra takes is Aj
Speaker 1: Stort the most disappointing transfer in school history.
Speaker 3: It's problem pop, Isaac says, because he's a rapist.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Cam's just going I'm out here try I
Speaker 1: don't make care anymore, and Cam's out here like what
Speaker 1: if I mess it? Is?
Speaker 2: I think Nick Timberlake is still is still one a.
Speaker 2: But uh Aj was given a million dollars. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: actually super fair and was supposed to be better than Timberlake.
Speaker 2: Timberlake was supposed to be a role player a store
Speaker 2: theoretically was like the second leading scorer on the team.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't even imagine what our prop
Speaker 1: bets looked like. We'll find out, Oh we will.
Speaker 3: Dickinson's winning the Nasmith, Yeah yeah I did.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, Hunter Dickinson is averaging sixteen and ten.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's total what job there?
Speaker 3: But he may be the.
Speaker 1: Furthest the sixteen and ten guy has ever been from
Speaker 1: the naysmith. But you can't win them all, folks at
Speaker 1: Show Me Hawk says Kansas Basketball isn't the only disappointment
Speaker 1: within the Cow Valley this year, because you and KC
Speaker 1: basketball was picked to win the Summit League in the
Speaker 1: preseason and they are sitting at eleven and seventeen and
Speaker 1: three and ten in conference play. Oh wow, Marvin Menzies
Speaker 1: is pulling a poor moser. That's pretty disappointing. You and
Speaker 1: k C hasn't been good in my life. No.
Speaker 2: I think they had like the one fine year where
Speaker 2: they were like the two seed in that league and
Speaker 2: didn't make the turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought they would have a chance to win
Speaker 1: the seventh League tourney and get in and they did it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 3: When your mascot is kangaro Jack, do you really have
Speaker 3: that much hope?
Speaker 1: I like the ruse and their colors.
Speaker 3: Are I like kangaro Jack? By the way, great movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the they have a lot of their
Speaker 1: apparel at local rally houses down here, and they're awesome
Speaker 1: in the yellow. Yes, it just says Kansas City on it.
Speaker 1: I like you and k C better than Kansas City. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I think the gear looks good. Cool Jim too. No,
Speaker 1: I guess that's it's me, isn't it?
Speaker 2: At?
Speaker 1: Hilarious? Uh at Chris Siroco Two, If you gave Houston
Speaker 1: a forty point head start, would they still beat Kansas?
Speaker 1: That's a fun question. If the game in Houston was
Speaker 1: played tomorrow, and how many points would you have to
Speaker 1: spot Houston at the start before you'd still pick Kansas
Speaker 1: to win?
Speaker 2: Straight up?
Speaker 1: I think it's like twenty.
Speaker 2: I think it's thirty.
Speaker 1: No, Kansas gets twenty four points. God at aj Stevenson.
Speaker 1: When Bill talked about the team needing a break from
Speaker 1: each other, was he talking about him needing a break
Speaker 1: from the players?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Yes, there's a lot of rumblings going around Twitter where
Speaker 1: it sounds like there may have been a confrontation allegedly
Speaker 1: to quote Cam between the players and the coaching staff
Speaker 1: on a recent Utah trip, where it included Bill self
Speaker 1: storming off. I don't know if that was Bill self
Speaker 1: saying I'm not dealing with this, taking his ball and
Speaker 1: going home, or if it was Bill self saying all right,
Speaker 1: you guys figure this out and I'll give you some space.
Speaker 1: We don't know just whatever. It is not usually the
Speaker 1: sort of thing that happens when the team's really good.
Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, not a deal.
Speaker 1: Let's see here at Show me Hawk says, I do
Speaker 1: agree that Self has not done a good coaching job
Speaker 1: this year, but I do not want him to go out.
Speaker 1: I don't want him to go out on back to
Speaker 1: back seasons of mediocre basketball. I think the shows we
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate the consistency of the streak enough. Probably so
Speaker 1: Kansas fans acted like it was a birthright to win
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. But I certainly thought whenever they stopped
Speaker 1: winning it, I thought they just have a few years
Speaker 1: of like second and fourth and stuff. Not this. I
Speaker 1: believe this will be the first time in Selfs tenure
Speaker 1: that they'll go back to back years without winning the
Speaker 1: league at least once.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Shoe Me Hawk also says, trying to picture in my
Speaker 1: head Darren Peterson being good enough to go out and
Speaker 1: lead us to road wins in cities like Ames, Tucson, Waco, Houston, Lubbock,
Speaker 1: or Manhattan. They're gonna win in one of those six
Speaker 1: places next year. If Darren Peterson keeps his commitment, I'll predict.
Speaker 2: That hopefully he does would think.
Speaker 1: At Elliot rus in h one with a good question.
Speaker 1: It's a challenging one though, at this point in the year,
Speaker 1: say one thing about this team that isn't negative.
Speaker 3: They haven't died, well metaphorically, sir.
Speaker 1: They've been dead since the start of the Utah.
Speaker 2: Trip ohe Mayo makes three. Sometimes they are.
Speaker 1: Pretty They are having a pretty good season with uniforms.
Speaker 3: Are they, though?
Speaker 2: The Fear did you guys see the Fear of God uniforms?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about to blow up that that sentences.
Speaker 2: Those are not close to as good as they should be,
Speaker 2: because Fear of God's pretty good in general, and those
Speaker 2: uniforms are not.
Speaker 1: Those are bottom three uniforms they've worn. The worst three
Speaker 1: uniforms they've worn. Are those The Camo unis that they
Speaker 1: did for one game, that one big twelve tournament and
Speaker 1: the the white and black ones that they wore for
Speaker 1: a West Virginia.
Speaker 2: Home game a couple of years ago were disgusting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, running that back. Uh, they were supposed to
Speaker 1: wear really awful Black History Month uniforms and instead they're
Speaker 1: wearing really awful Fear of God ones.
Speaker 2: Those just had the Jayhawk on them a game or
Speaker 2: two ago. I don't remember who that was against, but
Speaker 2: those were frocious. Yeah, yep, the sides were cool.
Speaker 3: But what is going on?
Speaker 1: Man? Adidas? James Bedford says, I really haven't followed Kansas
Speaker 1: in about a month. Is everything still going good?
Speaker 3: By?
Speaker 1: That's like the meme of the guy waking up from
Speaker 1: his coma being like, sir, you've been in a coma
Speaker 1: since Thanksgiving? Oh boy, I can't wait to hear all
Speaker 1: my Jayhawks have done.
Speaker 2: They've done walking into the room on fire from community yep.
Speaker 1: At Dick Underscore Taser says, are you regretting having this
Speaker 1: podcast at this point and having to cover game? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Boys, I'm glad to know you.
Speaker 3: Your response, I.
Speaker 1: Think that looking back on it, the Kansas is terrible.
Speaker 1: Shows are usually the most fun podcasts.
Speaker 2: But if they go one and four in their next
Speaker 2: five games, oh man, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is the tenor of the show gonna be? If
Speaker 2: they have lost like three in a row in the
Speaker 2: Houston show going into the senior day against Arizona.
Speaker 3: Arizona eighty four un ran Kansas twelve, guys really felt
Speaker 3: good about this one. A lot to look forward to to.
Speaker 3: The first round NIT matchup with UMKC matches up well
Speaker 3: for Hunter Dickinson. He's gonna drop twenty four and ten
Speaker 3: Zeke Mayo will have a strong game because this is
Speaker 3: a type of caliber player he played against. Bill self
Speaker 3: might actually come out of his shell, see his shadow
Speaker 3: and relegate himself to the SEC. Oh wait, he'd lose
Speaker 3: their two h Curtis Townsend invited a porn star to
Speaker 3: the sidelines for the game on Twitter by accident. Things
Speaker 3: seem to be going well there.
Speaker 1: That would be the thing to watch right there. We
Speaker 1: run out of things to watch, but that we'd watch
Speaker 1: for Curtis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Curts is staring intensely at a screen on his phone.
Speaker 3: It's just born hub. It's one of those things game
Speaker 3: guys really confusing.
Speaker 1: The guy sitting two rows behind him gets a glimpse
Speaker 1: of Curtis's shirt besize sixty font it's just an adult website. Hey,
Speaker 1: at least they'd be doing something entertaining.
Speaker 3: Boobs and it's just eight character size is too big.
Speaker 2: Who would be having a better time us watching Ku
Speaker 2: lose at home to Arizona on CA or Curtis Towns
Speaker 2: and watching cam girls on his phone publicly.
Speaker 3: Type of guy that he goes to like a twin
Speaker 3: peaks and ask women about their feelings.
Speaker 1: At Rock Chalk eighty four, should Bill have done what
Speaker 1: Roy used to do and pull his stars and putting
Speaker 1: the walk on? Okay? I have two things with this.
Speaker 1: First of all, I've seen so many people say that.
Speaker 1: And no, he shouldn't have walk walk Ons aren't the
Speaker 1: same guys like Walkons used to be, like Evan Manning
Speaker 1: and and Connor t Hann or whatever. Now they I
Speaker 1: don't even know. These walk Ons are like, no, it
Speaker 1: would go very bad. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And I can't even think of another one.
Speaker 3: Who's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Who is the second tallest player on the team. I
Speaker 1: think after a hunter? That's true? At hbt FD eighty nine,
Speaker 1: just says Firebell self, I no, don't at this point,
Speaker 1: sure switch it up. We'll see what happens at the
Speaker 1: Old Booth sixty nine. Out of the one and kJ,
Speaker 1: who would Bill choose to bail out of jail if
Speaker 1: he only could save one? He would sacrifice himself. He
Speaker 1: would sacrifice hisself. He would like in the Beast Games
Speaker 1: episode where one of the three people have to choose
Speaker 1: who's like keeping themselves locked to the inside of the
Speaker 1: cell so the other two can leave. That would be Bill,
Speaker 1: He would, he would, he would, he would opt to
Speaker 1: let them walk free, and Zeke Mayo would walk in
Speaker 1: and be like, boy, Bill could, I could just spare
Speaker 1: twenty five cents and he'd tell him to kick rocks.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Zeke at Kyle Chris two to two, is
Speaker 1: there still talk about the NCAA athletes getting a fifth
Speaker 1: year of eligibility? Is there hope that we could get
Speaker 1: another year of Zeke Mayo. I'm not sure Zeke Mayo
Speaker 1: would come back if Bill asked him to, if he could.
Speaker 2: How much money would it take Zeke to come back?
Speaker 1: There's a there's a number. And he is a Kansas guy,
Speaker 1: right like he likes Kansas.
Speaker 3: He's a kid from the poor guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel bad for him. He finally got to
Speaker 1: play for Kansas, his hometown team, and and this is
Speaker 1: the year he gets uh when he has not been
Speaker 1: the problem. I don't know if that will ever happen,
Speaker 1: nor should it. We got enough old guys running around
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Someone on Twitter said I would like Auburn's average age
Speaker 1: is like twenty three and their starting lineup or something
Speaker 1: like that, and someone said, well, I would hope Auburn
Speaker 1: could be good looking at the average age of their players,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, buddy, you know I don't want to
Speaker 1: take you want to come to a game at Allen
Speaker 1: Field Alls and see that that's not an insta guarantee
Speaker 1: for success just because your players are old, because Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson is older, Like, Hunter Dickenson's like three years younger
Speaker 1: than than freaking Devin Booker at this point, and it.
Speaker 2: Is, yeah, no success.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Oh, man, Hunter Dickinson's older than Landon?
Speaker 3: How close is he twenty six? He's four twenty four.
Speaker 2: Let's see when was Hunter Dickinson's birthday.
Speaker 1: It's late in the year, like the season or that,
Speaker 1: like he he turned twenty four in like November or
Speaker 1: December of last year. So you haven't beat by half
Speaker 1: a year Landon, Okay, I haven't beat by like a
Speaker 1: couple months at b Helz three. Would Cooper Flag be
Speaker 1: sixth Man of the year at KU? I think he
Speaker 1: might be unstoppable behind kJ but I'm not an expert.
Speaker 3: Well done, man, I appreciate your contribution to society. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's our and the show.
Speaker 1: And then there's a lot of questions. It's kind of
Speaker 1: to even this out here, a lot of questions. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to know. How do they fix the team? Why
Speaker 1: is the talent evaluation wrong? Why do they get crappy
Speaker 1: players when other teams get good players? Who we keeping,
Speaker 1: who we leave in odds are just about everybody who
Speaker 1: can leave will because that's how the portal works. I
Speaker 1: would be stunned if guys like Store and Griffin didn't
Speaker 1: already have their hat in the portal, uh, and they've
Speaker 1: just gotten wrong a couple of years, Like you could
Speaker 1: probably blame the core flush it. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: next year. Like, there really isn't a ton to analyze
Speaker 1: until we start knowing, uh, who they're going to, what
Speaker 1: their plan to get better is, because you know, the
Speaker 1: donors aren't going to put up with this for much longer.
Speaker 2: You know, uh, men in Black, you guys know Men
Speaker 2: in Black? Yeah, you know memory erase flash thing. I
Speaker 2: think if if we do that and also fast forward
Speaker 2: the calendar to about, uh, let's say late October of
Speaker 2: this year, I think that will fix this year's team, probably.
Speaker 1: And and at the Old Booth sixty nine said, or
Speaker 1: excuse me at ku Underscore, Nagy says, what is the
Speaker 1: best hypothetical starting five of Bill self era players? But
Speaker 1: Dewan and kJ are required to be in the lineup,
Speaker 1: So Bill selves, you're already forty percent of the way
Speaker 1: there to Bill seals best starting.
Speaker 3: Five and his want to throw something.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were actually doing this, I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean, having a center like Hunter is workless in
Speaker 1: this scenario. I think I'd have kjb my five. If
Speaker 1: you're telling me I had to build this roster, kJ
Speaker 1: is the five, and I would surround to one with
Speaker 1: like Sve Wiggins and and like Brandon Rush. I'd have
Speaker 1: three guards that can all shoot and drive.
Speaker 3: To the cup, right, I guess, Yeah, I still don't
Speaker 3: think they'd be that good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be pretty good, those three NBA players there,
Speaker 1: they'd be pretty good. But yeah, it wouldn't be maximum obviously.
Speaker 1: It'd be really funny how Andrew Wiggins would slam into
Speaker 1: kJ and the post whenever he's driving to score, like,
Speaker 1: because that's just and and kJ is just standing there,
Speaker 1: not moving And all right, guys, if they don't win
Speaker 1: this one, well, you thought the floor fell out last week?
Speaker 1: Who boy? Oklahoma State at number twenty three, get a
Speaker 1: take a picture. Whenever the graphic comes up and shows
Speaker 1: the number in front of Kansas's name, it's the last
Speaker 1: time you're going to see it this year. Kansas, Saturday,
Speaker 1: February twenty second, at three pm afternoon CBS game Fear
Speaker 1: of God uniforms. Huh, feel self they might get booed.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. They're gonna do their best to not let
Speaker 2: Kansas get booed because they're not very good. The coach
Speaker 2: by Steve Lutz at thirteen and thirteen on the year,
Speaker 2: they are five and ten in conference play. For those
Speaker 2: keeping track, that's only three games worse than Kansas. They
Speaker 2: are zero to seven in conference road games.
Speaker 1: Also just three games worse than Kansas.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: Somehow still here and set to play at his one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty ninth career game. Real Actually yeah is
Speaker 3: that actually?
Speaker 1: Yep? One hundred and twenty nine.
Speaker 3: That's wild. Uh. He averages twelve points. He shoots thirty
Speaker 3: five percent from three. The point guard is r turo Dean,
Speaker 3: who had seven points and three assists. Brandon Newman, Khalil Brantley,
Speaker 3: and Jamiron Keller distant relative of held Keller. I'll get
Speaker 3: perimeter minutes, and none of them are good three point shooters.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and read about the Bigs landing, because I
Speaker 1: got a couple of things I want to add to
Speaker 1: their to the to the scouting report.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. The Biggs feature four man six
Speaker 2: to eight Markllis Avery leads a team with twelve points
Speaker 2: and does pop out on the perimeter, make thirty seven
Speaker 2: percent of his threes. Pretty good center is six '
Speaker 2: ten Abou Oosman, who's the team's best rebounder with twelve
Speaker 2: points and six rebounds. So there's some dudes. They have
Speaker 2: a couple guys down there that can play for sure.
Speaker 1: So Oklahoma State is the highest tempoed team in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. I don't know how much you remember about
Speaker 1: Steve Lutz. He came from Western Kentucky. This is the
Speaker 1: guy that coached the Hilltoppers whenever they had that lead
Speaker 1: over two seed Marquette in the fifteen versus two game
Speaker 1: last year for a while, and they just put it
Speaker 1: on Marquette for a while and ran out of gas.
Speaker 1: They in his opening press conference at Oklahoma State. He
Speaker 1: said his philosophy is he wants at least one shot
Speaker 1: before the shot clock reads thirteen seconds. They shoot a ton.
Speaker 1: They are early remember Samford last year, think that, but
Speaker 1: less reliance on threes. They want to take a ton
Speaker 1: of shots and a ton of possessions per game. They
Speaker 1: are the fastest team in the twelve, so that will
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how that works here because
Speaker 1: Kansas isn't super high tempo. They're not particularly slow, but
Speaker 1: they don't play that fast. They are top fifteen nationally
Speaker 1: and drawing fouls because there are so many possessions in
Speaker 1: all their games. They average almost twenty five free throw
Speaker 1: attempts per game as a team, but everything else metrically
Speaker 1: is terrible. They shoot forty three percent from the floor,
Speaker 1: they're under thirty three percent from three. They're outside the
Speaker 1: top two hundred rebounds. They turn it over almost fourteen
Speaker 1: times a game, but they score a decent amount of
Speaker 1: points because again, so many possessions. They are a very
Speaker 1: very very very poor man's Alabama according to Ken Palm,
Speaker 1: even though they won a few more games than Colorado,
Speaker 1: they are the Big twelve's worst graded team with a
Speaker 1: ranking of one hundred and six, only Big twelve team
Speaker 1: to be outside the top one hundred per ken Pom
Speaker 1: so much. Now, I don't know if that's fall he's used,
Speaker 1: he's used to you being after me. I don't know
Speaker 1: that that kind of feels like that kind of feels
Speaker 1: like you. That feels like win to one throws a
Speaker 1: lot BYKJ and it's a bad pass, but kJ could
Speaker 1: have caught it, and we're not quite sure who to blame,
Speaker 1: so we'll just give you each a turnover on that one.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I was eating wheat thins out of the box
Speaker 3: and was staring at my ceilings. Anyway, you want to.
Speaker 1: Know what Landon has introduced me to, sir? Have you
Speaker 1: had the tomato basil wheat thins?
Speaker 3: Very good?
Speaker 2: In a minute?
Speaker 3: Are they good?
Speaker 2: They are?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Landon introduced those to me and I have gotten them
Speaker 1: ever since. Get them like every two weeks at the
Speaker 1: grocery store.
Speaker 3: I'll try. The Jayhawks may be terrible against just about
Speaker 3: everybody right now, but they have been money against Oklahoma
Speaker 3: State as of wait, they're twelve and one in their
Speaker 3: last thirteen matchups with the Cowboys. Struggling to read this
Speaker 3: doesn't meaning to wheat thin. Dating back in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: Wolso Me and the Cowboys would become the first team
Speaker 3: ever to beat Bill self three times at Allen Field House.
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, there's three different ways this is
Speaker 1: gonna go. Kansas is either gonna win comfortably, Kansas is
Speaker 1: gonna win in a game that looked just like the
Speaker 1: Colorado game where they're up by seven to ten the
Speaker 1: whole game and don't look that interested and don't leave
Speaker 1: you inspired. Or Kansas is gonna lose. What say you?
Speaker 2: I am going to say Kansas to win. I think
Speaker 2: they win, and I think they win a game of
Speaker 2: a much more sleepy variety. I'll say the Jayhawks win
Speaker 2: seventy two to sixty four in a game that's like
Speaker 2: pretty tight. But Kansas is just better. But that's honestly
Speaker 2: saying that they want to play at all, because if
Speaker 2: they really don't, then this is a losible game. I
Speaker 2: think they are better than Oklahoma State. I think they
Speaker 2: will show up enough for Oklahoma State, and I do
Speaker 2: think they will get.
Speaker 3: A very bad win. I mean, yeah, I think Kansas
Speaker 3: wins about like ten. Give me, I don't know. Kansas
Speaker 3: seventy five Oklahoma State sixty five in a game that
Speaker 3: we just look at and go, eh, yeah, checks out,
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think they're gonna score a
Speaker 1: lot of points because I think that Oklahoma States tempo,
Speaker 1: they turn it over quite a bit. I think Kansas
Speaker 1: will get some runouts. This feels like a good Florian
Speaker 1: kJ sort of game, almost to the point where I
Speaker 1: wonder if they'll sit Hunter for extended stretches to play
Speaker 1: Flory and caj together, because they're gonna want to have
Speaker 1: speed and athleticism on the court. It feels like a
Speaker 1: game where Flory goes off for like seventeen and ten
Speaker 1: and we're sitting there going, well, I'm glad he hadn't
Speaker 1: been playing very much recently. I think Kansas scores a
Speaker 1: lot of points and wins like eighty four to sixty six,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that says a lot about them.
Speaker 1: I just think that they are so much better than
Speaker 1: a very very bad Oklahoma State team, and I think
Speaker 1: that the home crowd gets them going a little bit,
Speaker 1: and maybe for at least a few minutes out of time,
Speaker 1: you forget about how bad the season is and you
Speaker 1: see him play pretty well, and they need it. They
Speaker 1: if they don't come out and play well, when was
Speaker 1: the last time they played well? When is last time
Speaker 1: they played a good game all the way around? Was
Speaker 1: it freaking UCF in the second game? Maybe Cincinnati? I guess,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't play a good game against UCF
Speaker 2: and Allen.
Speaker 1: I guess it was the Iowa State game. They played well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, game that's on.
Speaker 1: But they need to play well. And you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they are college kids, not robots.
Speaker 1: So for their own sanity, after a really crappy week
Speaker 1: and hearing it up on socials and all that, I
Speaker 1: hope they go out and they just play really well.
Speaker 1: Other Big Twelve games TCU at Cincinnati. As law the
Speaker 1: universe sets, TCU must always be five hundred. A loss
Speaker 1: here would get them there. I'll take the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: Same Yeah, TCU. Couple dramatic wins in a row and
Speaker 2: the luck runs out Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Since West Virginia at number nine, Texas Tech feels like
Speaker 1: a pod Red Raiders team at home wins by a
Speaker 1: lot correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not close game of the day in the Big.
Speaker 1: Twelve maybe the year number eight. Iowa State at number
Speaker 1: five Houston. I really would like to pick the Cyclones,
Speaker 1: but I just don't think they have nearly as much talent.
Speaker 1: They play well together, they are a very cohesive team,
Speaker 1: They're well coached. But I just think Houston is simply
Speaker 1: a lot better. So I think that they win. The
Speaker 1: Cougars do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston is a terminator.
Speaker 3: Houston by four.
Speaker 1: Baylor at Colorado. Do the Buffaloes get caught? Look gonna
Speaker 1: add to the jay Birds.
Speaker 2: They get caught being not very good at basketball?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Baylor, But I still think Colorado's.
Speaker 1: Do by Oh, just wait till Monday. BYU at number
Speaker 1: nineteen Arizona. I see this feels like a game that
Speaker 1: BYU wins to balance out Arizona's record a little bit.
Speaker 1: But considering what BYU is coming off of, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna pick it.
Speaker 3: Give me the Wildcats same, Yeah, definitely Wildcats.
Speaker 1: Utah at UCF. Give me the Knights. But these are
Speaker 1: teams going in different directions.
Speaker 3: Uh sure, yeah, Chalk, we've all been chok.
Speaker 1: Yep, and I think we'll probably stay with it here.
Speaker 1: Arizona State at k State. Give me the Cats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sadly.
Speaker 1: Other games the Battle for cam What is Michigan?
Speaker 3: What are they are? They?
Speaker 1: Are they the Great Lake State? What's the nickname?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's well, it's a mitten, but like
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is the Great.
Speaker 1: It is Battle for the Great Lake State and and
Speaker 1: Arbor number fourteen, Sparty at number twelve Michigan. I will
Speaker 1: take the Wolverines at home. I think they are the
Speaker 1: better team of these two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gi me, I don't know. I've been thinking Michigan State.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with my gut. Give me Sparty on
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 3: Okay, I do think it's Michigan here. They're way better offensively,
Speaker 3: and I think, yeah they get it none at home.
Speaker 1: Number six. Tennessee at number seven Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: Good game. I think the Vowls are very overrated. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're a top five SEC team. I will
Speaker 1: take the Aggies at home comfortably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 1: Another chance for porter number twenty one, Mississippi State goes
Speaker 1: into Norman. Do they do they do the Do the
Speaker 1: Sooners get a dub? No?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No? I will never ever pick Oklahoma to win one
Speaker 1: of these games. Number seventeen Kentucky at number four Alabama.
Speaker 1: This feels like where Alabama gets Landon. We thought that
Speaker 1: Bama would bounce back and win by twenty. At Missouri,
Speaker 1: this feels like the spot where it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: to one hundred and twenty kind of game Alabama wins.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, take the over folks.
Speaker 1: Number three Duke against Illinois in a random non conference
Speaker 1: game at Madison Square Garden. It feels like a decent
Speaker 1: spot to pick against the Blue Devils. Either one of
Speaker 1: you gonna do it?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, sure give me Illinois.
Speaker 3: I actually will. I'll take Illinois.
Speaker 1: See I don't I think Illinois trending straight into the toilet.
Speaker 1: I just think Duke overwhelms them.
Speaker 3: But it is it.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the random uptick in competition gets him. Number
Speaker 1: fifteen Missouri at Arkansas. It is hard to pick against
Speaker 1: the Tigers right now, but eventually I think this league
Speaker 1: is too good. I will take John Caliperi's razorback squad
Speaker 1: on their last legs to cling to NCAA tournament hope
Speaker 1: and get this win.
Speaker 2: Uh No, Missouri will score points.
Speaker 3: Give me Arkansas. I went on.
Speaker 1: So in the last game in which Arkansas lost to
Speaker 1: Auburn sixty seven to sixty, they had a player by
Speaker 1: the name of Zvonimir Visik, who is a John CALIPERI recruited.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you see this.
Speaker 1: He's seven to from Croatia. And this man really went
Speaker 1: out there and he had ten shots.
Speaker 2: In this game.
Speaker 1: And then my man missed all ten of them. He
Speaker 1: was zerover nine from three for the most insane thirty
Speaker 1: minute goose egg I've ever seen a bit. I've never
Speaker 1: seen a player score thirty minutes and shoot ten times
Speaker 1: and not score.
Speaker 2: It's called the dwe Harris.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Now, Dewan would have made two, so he could have
Speaker 1: scored his six points. Gets to a thousand career points
Speaker 1: after a half a million games. And then uh final
Speaker 1: number thirteen per Due at Indiana. I love picking games
Speaker 1: at Assembly Hall because you just never your gut tells
Speaker 1: you to pick Indiana at home, and they never win
Speaker 1: these games. I'm gonna say Perdue bounces back.
Speaker 2: I have to because I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: Now, you know what, screw it, play the music. I
Speaker 3: don't care, mister Potato had Mike Woodson. He finally gets
Speaker 3: signature win at home.
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of signature wins at home, Kansas is the
Speaker 1: next game? I know? Is Kansas in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: a signature win? I don't know if it is. It's
Speaker 1: Eyu is just gonna lie utah albeat him and were, okay,
Speaker 1: what's next?
Speaker 3: Like Bill has stunned to Kansas this year? What Mount
Speaker 3: Vesuvius did to Pompeii in eighty seventy nine, Rick fact Bay,
Speaker 3: that was eighty seventy nine. Look at me, go, look
Speaker 3: at me. Guys who would have thought?
Speaker 1: I thought it was eighty seventy three. But you're correct.
Speaker 1: There are slot machines that are themed like Pompeii and
Speaker 1: Mount Vesuvius, And so whenever Landon talks about how the
Speaker 1: nine to eleven jokes are in portaste, at some point
Speaker 1: it will be okay to make them, just like it
Speaker 1: is very acceptable to make jokes about the eruption of
Speaker 1: Mount Vesuvius in seventy ninety, which killed how many people,
Speaker 1: like sixteen thousand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nearly ten thousand years ago. So in
Speaker 2: thirty nine forty, yeah, we can make nine to eleven
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 3: Plenty of the Elder also died in the eruption amount
Speaker 3: of Vesuvius, and he was called the Elder because he
Speaker 3: made it to fifty six years old, which speaks to
Speaker 3: how terrible life was back then.
Speaker 2: I was gonna imagine lose by thirty four on the road.
Speaker 1: Yep, you should have been forty. Uh it's a mean
Speaker 1: can you even imagine how horrible it was? Very few
Speaker 1: things sound worse than dying in a volcanic eruption, but
Speaker 1: I think something that sounds worse than that is dying
Speaker 1: in a volcanic eruption in the year seventy nine A
Speaker 1: d because like those people had no idea. They just
Speaker 1: went outside like I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: Put the gads warning and kaboom.
Speaker 1: Like it's not even like they had sirens back then.
Speaker 3: It was just a very very was like, guys, grab
Speaker 3: every single chicken you have, sacrificet to the sun God
Speaker 3: and then hope.
Speaker 1: And it did not work.
Speaker 2: Seventy political signs in Pumplic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure so life, I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was the same. All right, Well we'll record on Sunday
Speaker 1: because there's a forty eight hour turnaround a boulder.
Speaker 2: Guys, will you who they might lose to Colorado on
Speaker 2: the road that wants a joke? And now it might
Speaker 2: be true, very well might be true.
Speaker 3: This is I t.
Speaker 2: I'm landing Fields, and I do not commit to doing
Speaker 2: a sing song bit at the end of the show
Speaker 2: every show, but you.
Speaker 3: Never know, and I'm plenty of the elder god. Hey,
Speaker 3: but you know what, screw guys, if if, if everything burn,
Speaker 3: crashes and burns, at least you're not gonna be one
Speaker 3: of those people in U Pompeii.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, there's yep, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wendy Ashes formed them by Pompeii yep. Later