1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: It's an emergency broadcast, yes, and we're delighted by the way. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,639 If you're new here, welcome to the Chicks on the 3 00:00:06,679 --> 00:00:10,119 Right podcast. We have with us Jennifer Say, who is 4 00:00:10,199 --> 00:00:14,560 the CEO and founder of xx x Y Athletics, who's 5 00:00:14,599 --> 00:00:17,960 obviously very very excited about the Supreme Court ruling that 6 00:00:18,199 --> 00:00:21,039 just came down about an hour ago, and so we're 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,679 going to be talking about that with her live, and 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,239 she has released a couple of videos. If you don't 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,239 follow her on Twitter, make sure that you are. Jennifer 10 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:32,439 Say is her handle on Twitter, and she put this 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,679 video out right when the ruling came. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: In words that changed everything. No person in the United 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,640 States show on the basis of sex be excluded from 14 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:46,479 participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,880 to discrimination under any education program. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Or activity receiving federal financial assistance. 17 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Title nine is Mine. Title nine, Title nine is mine 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,479 is mine. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,439 Speaker 3: Grateful love, Welcome Jen. 20 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:03,159 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here with you guys as 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,799 the first discussion of the day and give you my 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,560 non loyally interpretation. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: Of what just happened. We love it. That's great, we 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,239 love it. 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: We love non lawyers. 26 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: We love that. 27 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,599 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, there's some aults. 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: And it's apropos It happened on the last day of 29 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:19,920 Pride month, I mean a little. 30 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:21,439 Speaker 3: Bit right, so true. 31 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm sort of hoping for June twenty third, which was 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,920 the anniversary of Title nine. I was like waiting, but 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,920 we didn't get it that day. But we did get 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,200 it today. Yes, ma'am. For those who don't, should I 35 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:35,599 sort of describe it from the children, Yeah, go for it. Okay. 36 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:38,640 So there were two cases that were bundled together, which 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,359 are basically the same case. Okay. There were two males 38 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,840 in due states who challenged laws in those states, Idaho 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,239 and West Virginia. Those states have laws protecting women's sports. 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,719 One of the challengers is a miner who'd been on 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,560 puberty blockers. The other was an adult male the Idaho guide. 42 00:01:57,239 --> 00:01:59,879 So they challenged these states as violations of Title nine 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Equal Protection clause. We got the decision today. They were 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,159 bundled together. Basically, the net net is the laws are constitutional, 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,319 so the twenty seven states that have laws in the 46 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:15,039 books protecting women's sports can keep those laws, but the 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 twenty three states that don't have them don't have to 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,639 do anything. They can just keep doing what they're doing. 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,879 So I view this as we held the line and 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,120 we still have work to do right we want, but 51 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:29,560 we are not done because twenty three states, California, Colorado, 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 where I lie, May, all these places, you're still going 53 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,159 to see boys on the podium, stealing roster spots, et cetera, 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,960 and so onward. 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: And then question, because I know you're not a lawyer, 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,000 None of us are lawyers, but if you are any 57 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:49,319 parent in one of those states and you have a kid, 58 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,680 a daughter who's in sports and you're pissed off because 59 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:56,560 that state is letting boys in, can't every single one 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,000 of those cases go to the Supreme Court? And then 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,479 I mean, if if they did, don't they know there's 62 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:02,360 an automatic win. 63 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: There's moren't got it not necessarily because it determined that 64 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:11,159 the laws were constitutional. So I don't know what the 65 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:12,520 next steps will be. You guys are going to have 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 to have a lawyer on But I would say so 67 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:17,680 for instance, I live in Colorado. We let boys compete 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,520 in girls sports here. But I was just the chairperson 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,439 for a ballot initiative to get legislation on the books 70 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:26,479 in Colorado. So we had to get enough signatures to 71 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:29,199 get on the ballot in November. We got enough signatures. 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,080 We beat it by more than twenty five percent in 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,319 deep blue Colorado. What this means now is if the voters, 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,240 if and when the voters decide in November, the state 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,919 can't overturn that legislation is unconstitutional. It's already been upheld 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,680 as constitutional. So now we just need to win the vote. So, 77 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:46,479 if you live in one of the other twenty and 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,479 one of the twenty three states, it doesn't have a law. 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,039 You need to get a ballot initiative. 80 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: This is the thing I think. If that says nationally right, well. 81 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:58,879 Speaker 2: The other thing that's crazy. So I was an internationally 82 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:03,000 competitive gymnast. Here's the thing. This doesn't work piecemealed state 83 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:06,759 by state. If you are a high level, very competitive athlete, 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,639 you're competing across state. 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,479 Speaker 3: Line, yes, ma'am. 86 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:12,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I compete to get across state lines 87 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:15,560 the first time when I was eight, yeah, eight years old. Yeah, 88 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:18,439 So how does that even work? Yeah? Well it's a 89 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:21,079 wait to we curse on this show? Right, it's a 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,600 good ship show again, Yeah, it's a shit show. Because 91 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,240 if you're good, let's just say you're a really good 92 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,319 soccer player and you're nine, and you go to a 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,519 semi national competition and you compete for Tennessee, but you 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,040 go up against California. California could have a boy on 95 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:37,040 the team exactly. So what do you do then, So 96 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:40,480 this doesn't work as pushing it to the states. We 97 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,480 need national legislation. But my view is, and what I'm 98 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:45,600 trying to do, is we have to change the cultural 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,720 conversation so that it is utterly unacceptable for any team 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,560 to field a boy. 101 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: Right. 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,639 Speaker 4: And so you talk about the cultural conversation, there are 103 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:55,160 going to be feminists out there. 104 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: Today who are like, oh, this is such a blow. 105 00:04:57,399 --> 00:05:00,439 Speaker 4: I can't believe you're supposed to be a feminist. Like, 106 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,399 what do you say to those women who think that, 107 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:07,319 you know, the ruling today is awful, it's awful. 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: It's terrible to you. 109 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:12,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're brainwashed. I don't know what is wrong with you, 110 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,759 but you're brainwashed. Yeah. 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean it is amazing that women actually are like, 112 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:20,839 of course we should have boys in sports, And just blows. 113 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: My mind that the street it's nuts. 114 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot blowing my mind. At the moment. 115 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:32,199 You could we could we could. I'm going to refrain 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,720 from going beyond this subject, but I could. Yeah. I mean, 117 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:41,199 the mainstream feminist position is trans women are women. That's 118 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:45,839 that's the position of the Democrat Party. That's the mainstream position. 119 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:48,360 I will say, I have to give credit to my 120 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:53,279 you know, radical feminist partners and comrades and arms. They've 121 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:56,519 been fighting this for a long time. So super far 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,600 left feminists, the ones who still understand that men are different. 123 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:03,319 If you let men into women's sports and spaces, you 124 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:06,360 no longer have sex base rights. They've been here and 125 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:10,000 I want to give them credit, people like Kardanski, But 126 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:17,199 the mainstream feminist position is hogwash and removes women's rights entirely. 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,439 The thing is, though, you guys, eighty percent of Americans 128 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,079 agree with us, Yeah, totally, and we're they're being bullied 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,639 into saying these ridiculous things. And so that's why even 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 in deep blue Colorado, we got twenty five percent more 131 00:06:31,079 --> 00:06:33,079 signatures than we needed to get this on the ballot, 132 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:36,480 because when people are anonymous, they do the right thing, 133 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,319 but they're afraid of the backlash. I mean, these activists 134 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:45,839 in this area are cruel and violent and brutal and 135 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,680 people are afraid. They're still afraid to do the right thing. 136 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,000 I mean, you're here. I'll cite one example. Not a 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:07:00,439 single star female athlete like Olympic pro has vociferously stood 138 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:04,000 in defense of women's sports. Not one. That's madness to me. 139 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: And it's so weak minded, and it's to be so 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,839 afraid of being called phobic or whatever it is that 141 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:11,560 they're afraid of that. 142 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: It's just so weak. 143 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: Sauce, you know it is. 144 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: And that's not to say I mean, Martina Navrachilova has 145 00:07:16,959 --> 00:07:20,319 been outstanding, but I'm talking about competing right now, full 146 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:23,519 road to defense of you know, our sports are for us, 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 not one because they're afraid of being called names. They're 148 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,199 also afraid of losing endorsements. 149 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,279 Speaker 4: I was just going to say, they're probably afraid of 151 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:31,879 losing endorsements and money. 152 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: That's they're afraid of that. 153 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: But there are some like you know, the Rapinos of 154 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,879 the world, who have done really well in her sport, 155 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:40,560 and then when she's out, she. 156 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Pulls the latter up. 157 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:45,279 Speaker 4: So she's screw these other girls, screw these other women 158 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:47,800 I've done Okay, So that's how I feel about her. 159 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: I feel but I think she's one that's a true believer, 160 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:54,279 though I like, I think with her it's I don't know, 161 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:58,040 it's like just a sense that I have some sure 162 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:00,959 are ten percent that are just true leavers and they 163 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,439 really believe this is the right thing. And then everyone 164 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:06,160 else is either silent or going along because you know, 165 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:08,560 that's what the crowd is doing. But I think her 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,839 connection to because she's a lesbian, I think her connection 167 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:18,519 to that community she feels obligated to, you know, assent 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,639 with their their views or their platform because there's a 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,439 lot of normal gays out there who think totally. 170 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:25,879 Speaker 5: Yes. 171 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Well, And it's interesting because it's it's amazing to actually 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,519 consider that. Like, if you look at Justice Clarence Thomas's 173 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,480 position on this, I read it. There's just this one 174 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:39,519 line that I wanted to share where it said men 175 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,200 and boys with gender dysphoria are not women or girls, 176 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,840 even if they believe they are. And I'm like, how 177 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,799 is it possible that we even have to say that? 178 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: Right? You know what? 179 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,879 Speaker 3: I like, what is what is our world? 180 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:57,279 Speaker 1: But this has to be said at the Supreme Court level? 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: Yep, that's crazy? What is our world? That we're arguing 182 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,360 whether or not. Title nine was meant to protect women, 183 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,679 like in nineteen seventy two they even had this idea 184 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,679 of what gender identity was. I mean, it's so stupid 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,559 on its face. In credit to the justices, it was. 186 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,440 So the decision was confusing because it was nine to three. 187 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,759 So all nine justices said the laws do not violate 188 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:27,039 Title nine. So that's good. That's a when they were 189 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,039 split on equal protection though they were six three on 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,759 equal protection. And that's where the three women sold women out. 191 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:35,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, which they always do. 192 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: And you guys, Mark Brown Jackson, she I'm sorry, but 193 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:43,919 she is a total retard, like completely unqualified. 194 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Said I don't said it, I have no problem saying it. 195 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: But look at part of her what a highlighted part 196 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:56,799 of this descent. A transgender woman penalized for being perceived 197 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,919 as aggressive has experienced discrimination on the basis of sex 198 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,679 just as much as a such gender woman has. No 199 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,039 matter that the transgender woman's behavior matches expectations of her 200 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,799 sex assigned at birth, this woman is a disgrace to 201 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:17,320 justices and to women. 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: Okay, what is the whole idea that there's expectations of 203 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,679 behavior based on your sex? Is so retrograde. Do you 204 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,679 know what I'm saying. I mean, we've been writing as 205 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:30,720 women for years. I can be ambitious, I can be aggressive. 206 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,759 I'm still a woman. I'm breadwinner in my family. Am 207 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:38,159 I a man? Am I'm a dad? No, it's retarded 208 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:41,080 to use your word, and still very much a woman. 209 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,519 And so the Left has fallen into this trap of 210 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,600 touting these very retrograde gender stereotypes. And by the way, 211 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:53,039 the person that Jackson is describing is being called out 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,000 for being a man, not for being aggressive. There's plenty 213 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,519 of women that are aggressive on the field. What right 214 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,399 you have to be an elite athlete you have to 215 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:04,919 be aggressive? Yes, I mean my nine year old daughter 216 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 runs boys over on the soccer field. She's still a girl. 217 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 218 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,759 Speaker 2: No, one's questioning that. We're just saying the boys have 219 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,000 to play in boys. 220 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 221 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,279 Speaker 4: That's it's not complicated, and it's not when you it's 222 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,200 nuts when you see a Supreme Court justice have to 223 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,720 write you know, just because you think you're a boy 224 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:25,320 doesn't mean you're a boy like I. The common sense 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,080 thing is, I it's every day, it's every day. There's 226 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,759 just like just craziness and non common sense. It's just 227 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,240 rampant in this country and abroad. I mean, other people, 228 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:40,000 you know, in the everywhere in the world think that 229 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,360 this is okay for a male to be in a 230 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,279 woman's locker room. 231 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: It's it's getting better, right, Like that's starting to get 232 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:49,279 not as insane as it was. 233 00:11:49,879 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: Basically, all the states that allow boys to compete in 234 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,360 girls' sports, those states, the sort of rule of law 235 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,080 is the gender identity trump sex. So those males and 236 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,120 be in locker rooms, bathrooms, prisons, battered women's shelters. I mean, 237 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:08,799 we're so not done with this, with this fight yet. 238 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:12,279 And I believe in the twenty three states, even though 239 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,960 the vast majority of voters probably do agree with us, 240 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,600 the governors are just so captured and ideological that they're 241 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,480 going to double down. 242 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: I think. 243 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:24,399 Speaker 2: More boys than gas for right. 244 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,919 Speaker 4: And you notice how it's always on our side, Like 245 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,679 you don't see a lot of women going I am 246 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,960 fighting to be in this man's sport, like I really 247 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,679 want to play Major League baseball, you know, like you 248 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:35,679 just don't see it. 249 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: You don't. 250 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: So there's such an imbalance there that anybody who has 251 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,399 a shred of common sense or just a working brain 252 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,200 cell understands that this is a one It's such a 253 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,720 one sided issue. 254 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,799 Speaker 2: It really is. I mean, to your point, they're actually 255 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,600 in the Olympics this last time, there was a woman 256 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,519 claiming to be a man who competed in women's boxing. 257 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:03,120 There was a women competing claiming to be non binary 258 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:05,840 competing in women's some track event. 259 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: But was it a dude or was that a one? 260 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: The women always choose, no matter what they declare themselves 261 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:15,480 to be, they compete in women so and yet the 262 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:19,440 press hails it as this like triumph of transgender blah. 263 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:25,159 It's just women competing in women's. Basically, everyone can compete 264 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:27,720 in women's, right, The men think they're women, the women 265 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:29,919 who think they're women, the women, the women who are women, 266 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,200 the women who think they're non binary, the women who 267 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,960 think they're men. Everybody wants to compete in women's. Women's 268 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,240 is like this free for all, right now, right, it 269 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,240 totally is just but just going men. But the women 270 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,840 don't believe their men don't want to compete in men's 271 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,919 because they won't qualify exactly. 272 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing, Like I would love I think 273 00:13:49,879 --> 00:13:51,679 all of this would be salt listen, we don't care 274 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:54,039 what you do in your personal life. We've always said that, 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,879 I don't care what these people do. I don't care 276 00:13:55,879 --> 00:14:00,440 if you're transgender, but you're junk is, you're junk. And 277 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,559 if you got the junk and you're supposed to be 278 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,720 on the men's team, go dress up, put makeup on. 279 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: We don't care. 280 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: Just we don't compete with your gender. Compete with the 281 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:13,960 one that you were assigned to at birth. Compete with them, 282 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:16,360 and then this wouldn't be an issue. And I think 283 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:17,240 all of those they. 284 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:19,679 Speaker 2: Want to cheat. They just want to cheat. None of 285 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:23,240 them would make it in mens none exactly like Aby Hernandez. 286 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:26,320 You know, the boy who won state and two events 287 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,879 and I think placed in a third all the jumping events. 288 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:33,559 His leaps, his heights and distances, they don't qualify him 289 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:36,639 for state in men's. He doesn't make it right. 290 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,519 Speaker 3: It's cheating. 291 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:41,159 Speaker 1: So it's so obvious what they're doing, and it's it's 292 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:43,559 I'm so glad for the small win. It's not a 293 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:45,159 full win, and there's lots of work to do. Like 294 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,879 you said, what's this other video that you posted. We've 295 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:49,559 got it, but we haven't watched it. Yet so give 296 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,159 us a preview. 297 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,159 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's AI. It says it's AI, but we're 298 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,519 having fun with AI lately. I don't know where you 299 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:57,720 guys stand on that. I kind of do. But for 300 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:01,360 a small business and brand like us, it's been a 301 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:04,679 great way for us to respond in real time to issues. 302 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,840 So we made this one. It's basically featuring governors in 303 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:11,159 some of the twenty three states that are going to 304 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,799 just keep letting boys compete in girls sports. It's sort 305 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,039 of imagining what their response might be. You'll think, it's 306 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:18,200 okay here it. 307 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 6: Is Supreme Court rule. Congrats you won, but not in 308 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,960 my state, because we're still not going to. 309 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:27,559 Speaker 2: Protect women's sports. 310 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 6: Not in New Jersey, not in Maine, definitely not in 311 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,080 New York. The Supreme Court ruling doesn't change Jack Squat 312 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:38,519 for Illinois, girls will continue to have to compete against 313 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:39,120 boys and. 314 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: Be shamed if they say one word about it. 315 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,759 Speaker 6: We'll still be letting boys win girls softball championships. We're 316 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:47,919 going to keep putting males feelings before girls. In New Jersey. 317 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,240 I'll say it's unfair, but keep making girls share their 318 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:55,080 first place podiums. Good thinking, Gavin anything for the boys, 319 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,360 So yeah, you won, We're going twenty three states. 320 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: Our lovely states. 321 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: Girls actually didn't win because the ruling didn't require. 322 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,879 Speaker 4: Every state to protect women's sports, just the ones who want. 323 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: To, and we just don't want to. 324 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,879 Speaker 3: I mean, they would. 325 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely say those things like that barely needed. 326 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:18,879 Speaker 4: To be AI And then at the same time they'll 327 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:20,960 turn around and go, we're the party of women. 328 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Women abortion basically totally, that's the only thing, as if 329 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,279 that's the only thing we care about exactly. 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, there's another stereotype of the things that we 331 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,480 must be concerned with, right, and it's. 332 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,799 Speaker 2: Also them telling us what we have to care about, 333 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:43,759 what we need to think and not start of listening 334 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:46,080 to people and common sense. Anyway, go ahead. 335 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:50,159 Speaker 1: So there were obviously some other rulings that came down 336 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:53,399 today and for our regular listeners will be deep diving 337 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,399 into those on our regular time show tomorrow morning. But 338 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,279 in case people haven't heard, the campaign finance shook out 339 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 such that parties can spend as much as they want 340 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:08,680 to on their candidates, which I they said it was 341 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 a First Amendment thing, which is weird because I don't 342 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:14,640 like people individuals. We can't contribute to candidates as much 343 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,680 as we want, we have limits, and yet the parties don't. 344 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:19,799 And so I've got to dig into that a little 345 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:23,319 bit more before I completely understand it. And then we 346 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,240 did lose on the birthright citizenship, which I think most 347 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,920 people which was still a bummer. 348 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:31,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was expected. It's still totally I. 349 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: Mean I held out a little bit of hope, just 350 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,799 a little bit. 351 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: What was the I didn't look because I was so 352 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,880 busy reading what was the ruling the birth rate was. 353 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they think it was Roberts and and Amy Coney 354 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,839 Barrett that that that voted. 355 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: Along with the liberal justices. 356 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:49,599 Speaker 3: Totally surprising. 357 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think this is what we thought would happen. 358 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 359 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,039 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. 360 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of like yesterday we had a blow. 361 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: Today we had a. 362 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm holding on to this no transgenders 363 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,200 in women's sports. I know there's twenty three states that 364 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,440 are going to be like, we're going to do what 365 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,279 we want. But at this end, you would and you 366 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:10,599 look at the mainstream media and they're at there in 367 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:15,200 full fledged Oh my god, this is a blow. LGBTQ community. 368 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:18,480 That's what they're like, that's what I was going to NBC. 369 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,720 NBC had a headline that said, delivering another major blow 370 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,160 to LGBTQ rights, the Supreme Court upheld state laws that 371 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:29,960 banned transgender athletes from participating in women's sports. And so 372 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,359 they're they're painting it as it's just mean to that community. 373 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: It's just mean, Jen, Well, that's what it. 374 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,759 Speaker 2: Always comes down to. Why are you being so feelings? 375 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,119 I did a debate about a year ago here in 376 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,079 Colorado and the subject at Boulder you see Boulder, Colorado. 377 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,160 And the guy came in and first of all, his 378 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,279 like first attack was you're a Christo fascist, white nationalist, 379 00:18:55,319 --> 00:18:57,640 and I said, well, I'm actually a Jewish atheist, so 380 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:02,880 let's move on from there. Worst the first thing was, 381 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,759 you know, to attack, of course, not nothing wrong with 382 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:09,480 being a Christian. I mean, there's something wrong with being 383 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,480 a fascist, but not a Christian, right. And then when 384 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,799 I forced him to engage on the actual issue, he 385 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,680 sort of ended up agreeing with me on almost everything 386 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:23,839 and resorted to, well, it's just me and that's all 387 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,279 they've got it feeling the fields, And my point is, 388 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,680 what about the girls? Why doesn't it matter that it's 389 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,680 mean to the girls to take their opportunities in privacy away. 390 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,680 What about the girls? And that's you know. At xxx Y, 391 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,640 all we try to do is put the attention back 392 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,519 on the girls because somehow we've forgotten about them. They 393 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:45,319 deserve fairness. And those boys are not being banned from competition, 394 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,640 as some of the headlines will undoubtedly say today, they 395 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,319 are being banned from girls and women's competition. And we 396 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,680 have all sorts of rules constraining competition. There are categories, 397 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,799 there are weight classes and age classes, and yes there 398 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:01,680 are sex classes and competition to make it fair. So 399 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:03,720 go over there and compete with the boys with your 400 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,640 bows and your hair and your lipstick on. 401 00:20:05,759 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: No one nobody gets a ship like go to that. 402 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: I absolutely agree. 403 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: I hope that you will continue the fight and that 404 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:14,559 you know we we will go and try to make 405 00:20:14,599 --> 00:20:17,640 this a federal thing, because I just I cannot understand 406 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,599 why it is not, But I just I and I 407 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,480 know that you guys are going to put the work 408 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,279 in and do what you've been doing for the past 409 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:24,960 several years. 410 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: When you founded XXXY. This is why you did it, and. 411 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: I know you faced a lot of crap man we're 412 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,400 I don't like this sounds, so what's the condescending And 413 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,279 I don't mean it to sound condescending, But I'm just 414 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,880 so proud of what you've done, you know, because. 415 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,759 Speaker 3: I have a girl. 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: I have a girl that's we have athletes that are 417 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,319 in our family that are girls, and it affects them, 418 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,920 and when it affects you and it affects your girl, 419 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,480 and how hard they work, I'm just so glad that 420 00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:52,640 we have people like you that are working to to 421 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:54,680 fight this insanity. 422 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: You know, it is. 423 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Craziness, and unfortunately we lost the culture and all this 424 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,440 shit got smuggled in through the culture. That's why you 425 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:05,559 have to say no on the most basic level to 426 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:08,200 all of it, to pronouns all of it, because you 427 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:10,720 concede the point and people think you're just being mean 428 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:13,599 that a trans woman is a woman and you have 429 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,559 to call her sheet. How can you say that woman 430 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,039 can't come in our private spaces and our sports you 431 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,720 said she's a woman. You've lost the battle and we 432 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:24,039 have to arrest the culture back with the force it 433 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:25,799 was taken from us. I just want to make it 434 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:29,799 cool to be totally normal and say men can't become women. 435 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,519 That's it. 436 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,559 Speaker 3: That's cool. 437 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: It's like, that's my whole like mission with the brand 438 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,680 is to make it cool to be normal. 439 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that you have you said you 440 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,640 had a nine year old girl. I think that that 441 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:46,519 this next generation coming up, I think I hope they're 442 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:47,400 going to be more normal. 443 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: They're going to be like the gen xers. You know. 444 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: This is what my hope is, that they won't buy 445 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:53,799 any a lot of this crap. 446 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: I think the alphas. I'm worried about disease or the Yeah. 447 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:02,400 I mean, I look at it's Democratic Socialists. It's like 448 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,759 a Z movement, you know. But I don't have to 449 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:06,759 talk about that. Now. 450 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: That's a whole other thing. 451 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: See, Yeah, that is a whole other thing. Well, we're 452 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160 so so so excited that you chose us to talk 453 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,160 with about this first, and we were glad to do 454 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,519 it live and to get your initial reaction to something 455 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:21,519 that just happened an hour ago. 456 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: That was super fun. So thank you. It's so nice 457 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,359 with you to have me and thank you guys for 458 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,759 being so relentless on this issue and so many others. 459 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,799 Speaker 4: Always and tell everybody where they can get stuff, where 460 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:34,359 they can learn about sxxy te. 461 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: Go get your flag tax for July for it xx 462 00:22:38,759 --> 00:22:42,119 slash x y athleticx dot com and we just I 463 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,279 don't know if it's up yet, but we're releasing a 464 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:47,119 special edition tea we won, but we're not done. 465 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,519 Speaker 2: I love that. 466 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,559 Speaker 3: Love that is awesome. 467 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, thanks you, welcome back obviously anytime. 468 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,599 Speaker 2: Awesome. Lovely to see you, ladies, Thank you so much. 469 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:58,039 Speaker 3: Good to see you bad