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<v Speaker 1>Good Thursday morning, Kentuckyana. It is Kentuckyana's morning news here

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<v Speaker 1>on news Radio eight forty whas Nick Coffee, John ald

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<v Speaker 1>On alongside John Shannon. You just heard him with his

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<v Speaker 1>latest newscast, Got Fitzgerald's Got Sports coming your way in

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes as we continue to ride out this

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<v Speaker 1>heat wave. I mentioned earlier. When I think of just

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<v Speaker 1>these types of conditions and just how brutal it is outside, one,

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<v Speaker 1>I always remind myself, well, one, I'm really weak, but

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<v Speaker 1>also it could be a lot worse, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to work outside, thankfully, and there's many

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<v Speaker 1>that do, and they've done it a long time, so

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to them. On the talkback feature, which if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to news Radio eight forty whas on the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Radio app, you can always just hit that microphone

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<v Speaker 1>button and there you go. It'll it'll prompt you and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I think what it'll do the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>will it'll it'll ask you to allow the app to

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<v Speaker 1>let you use the microphone on your phone, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can say whatever you want at somebody earlier who

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<v Speaker 1>chimed in when we were discussing the heat and just

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<v Speaker 1>how bad I feel for those who have no AC

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<v Speaker 1>at all right now, rather it be in their vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>or their house, which unfortunately there's people like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>our own Scott Fitzgerald's been riding around in a car

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<v Speaker 1>with no AC and I feel for him, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tougher than me. And also we have a listener

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to shout out to her husband on the

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<v Speaker 1>talkback feature, and he's tougher than me too. Doesn't take

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<v Speaker 1>much to be tougher than me, if I'm being real

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<v Speaker 1>with you, But her husband certainly is.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Nick. This is Betty and Firm Creek. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate the heat and humidity, but I feel really bad

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<v Speaker 2>for my husband. He's an electrician, he has to work

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<v Speaker 2>out in this heat. They're in Jeffersonville right now working

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<v Speaker 2>on the Meta Center. No, just shade from the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Air Conditioning is the best invention in the world. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>you doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Betty, and your husband again, much tougher than me.

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<v Speaker 3>Shade can help.

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<v Speaker 1>But but this type of just humidity and stickiness here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm complaining about just the thought of being outside for

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<v Speaker 1>a long stretch of time with no AC, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>being in a vehicle to where I can't turn on

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning. It is a great invention that we should

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<v Speaker 1>never take for granted. And I realize how fortunate I am,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's many that are maybe outside right now working

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<v Speaker 1>and it's already hot, it's already human, and it's already sticky.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, thank you for chiming in and sharing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Betty.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, it is the talkback feature on our iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 1>if you are if you're unfamiliar, all right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal Rodgers' case continue the trial, I should say, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course she's not on trial. She's someone who has

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<v Speaker 1>been missing for ten years now, of course presumed dead.

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<v Speaker 1>And the defense in this case there as you could expect,

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<v Speaker 1>going to highlight that there is nobody, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>physical evidence, and I believe one of the attorneys yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>for Brooks how highlighted that they're just guesses. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>guessing on their end, and that's fair, meaning there's not

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<v Speaker 1>any real direct proof. There's no physical evidence, there's no body,

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<v Speaker 1>and that of course is going to lead to a

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<v Speaker 1>real challenge in proving without a shadow of a doubt

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<v Speaker 1>to a jury that brooks Howk is guilty. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>have been many cases where you do, in fact have

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<v Speaker 1>a guilty verdict from a jury that had similar a

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<v Speaker 1>similar situation, meaning where there wasn't maybe there wasn't a body,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really based off of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>circumstantial evidence, strong but certainly circumstantial. So what stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to me not that I'm a detective by any means,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly wouldn't be able to litigate at all, but

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<v Speaker 1>the phones are always, I think, a smoking gun when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to evidence. Now, again, your phone being in

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<v Speaker 1>an area when something happens doesn't prove that you did anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but it makes it at times just so highly unlikely

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be a coincidence. And of course quincidence

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes even if they just seem well that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way that's a coincidence, it's not proof. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that's going to be enough to convince a jury.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am very fascinated with this case, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, each day I feel like I learn about

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<v Speaker 1>a new documentary or crime TV show, podcast, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, that featured this this story, and it's because

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<v Speaker 1>of just how interesting it is to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>not just here in the area but across the state.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we'll have more as this plays out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm anxious to see where it goes from here and

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<v Speaker 1>the family, as you could expect, very emotionally yesterday, those

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<v Speaker 1>that are able to cover this as far as local

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<v Speaker 1>media reporters and it's not just local, it's national, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's no technology allowed, so it's just that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>see the courtroom paintings and whatnot. But they are giving

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<v Speaker 1>updates as far as what is seen whenever there are

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<v Speaker 1>breaks during the trial and when it concludes for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>And as you could expect, the Rogers family, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that they're the emotional roller coaster that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with this. I mean, first of all, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even begin to imagine just what they've gone through. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they're here to where they've got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully get justice in their mind for someone, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>multiple people who they believe played a role in the

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<v Speaker 1>disappearance and likely death of their family member, their daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the mother. Again, I see reports from those

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<v Speaker 1>that were there covering it that it was an emotional

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<v Speaker 1>day and that's certainly to be expected.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Trafficking weather updates coming your way, and it's summertime, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>vacations are happening as we speak. Vacation's coming up here

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<v Speaker 1>in the next couple of weeks, but there's a later

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<v Speaker 1>there's a survey that tells us the best and worst

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<v Speaker 1>parts of vacation and makes me realize I'm vacationing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a little bit different than most. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that and more. It's Kentucky and it's morning news

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<v Speaker 1>right here on news Radio eight forty whas seven point

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen here Kentucky, and is Morning News with Nick Coffee

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<v Speaker 1>on News Radio eight forty whas. I know a couple

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<v Speaker 1>people on bigation right now. My vacation are annual summer

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<v Speaker 1>vacations coming up at the very beginning of August. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certainly looking forward to it. Vacations are very much

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<v Speaker 1>needed and they're awesome. And even if you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to take a vacation, vacations can just be vacating

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<v Speaker 1>from the workplace, and man, that can go a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure there are some that aren't traveling like

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<v Speaker 1>they used to because of the economy and whatnot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. But if you have a job,

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<v Speaker 1>and most do give you some type of time off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean make sure you use it. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation a few years back where I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>rolling over some days because I just it got to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year and I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>take them because it was at a time when there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot going on in sports that i'd want.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good for me to be on the air

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss big things going on, but I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could get those back. So anyways, vacation season is upon us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have an updated survey here and this is

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<v Speaker 1>from let's see Talker Research for cheap This is the

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<v Speaker 1>Talker Research is where they came from. But they surveyed

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand American travelers. And let's talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best parts of vacation and the worst parts of vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>According to two thousand Americans who were asked, the best

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<v Speaker 1>parts of vacation, people claim is trying new foods. That

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty eight percent. Americans crave culinary adventures, with nearly

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<v Speaker 1>four and ten ranking tasting local or novel dishes as

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<v Speaker 1>a vacation highlight. I would agree, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>go to our trip, on our trip, every year. We

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<v Speaker 1>now they're not new to us anymore, but local restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>that are in a place that you go for vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless if it's a big tourist attraction, meaning the vacation destination,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's just a place that you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like is your own, because not as many people

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<v Speaker 1>see it as a tourist spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly makes the trip a lot more expensive if you

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<v Speaker 1>eat out a lot while going on vacation, But there's

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<v Speaker 1>certain restaurants that when we think about our vacation coming

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's just a few weeks away, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first things I think about is getting

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<v Speaker 1>one of those getting to one of those restaurants that

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<v Speaker 1>I only go to once a year whenever I end

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<v Speaker 1>up in DestinE. So the other top option at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent was visiting new places, exploring unfamiliar destinations totally

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. And then right at number three, which these

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<v Speaker 1>are all relatively close. These are just your top three,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all pretty competitive as far as what people

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<v Speaker 1>like the most about vacation is relaxation. Of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's like the most important thing. But vacationing

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<v Speaker 1>with young children, it's hard to find that relaxation. At

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<v Speaker 1>times you need a vacation from the vacation. My kids

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<v Speaker 1>are getting little bit older where that's not as much

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<v Speaker 1>of an issue. But John, you will be there at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. Brother, I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>You've always put the fear in me. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>you've done it on purpose, but you've always I've told

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<v Speaker 4>you about my trips with me and my wife the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple of years by ourselves, and how I like

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<v Speaker 4>driving in the car, and you're like, oh, we'll see

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<v Speaker 4>how that goes along whenever you have your own kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, man, I'll tell you what you were right, because

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<v Speaker 1>you got to see the anxiety build when you and

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<v Speaker 1>I were working. For those who know, John was the

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<v Speaker 1>producer of my sports show, and he and I were

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<v Speaker 1>partners on the air doing sports in the afternoon for

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<v Speaker 1>a good stretch and had a lot of fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're reunited and it's and it's great. But he

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<v Speaker 1>just reminded me that when I had a vacation coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>he could see the anxiety building throughout the week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it all rooted from the travel, it all rooted from

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<v Speaker 1>getting there and just fingers crossed that my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>well behaved and really to be. Just to be blunt,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my daughter. She's with her autism and her intellectual disability.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, with travel, there's just there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of unknown as far as what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a smooth situation for her or maybe what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that we gotta we got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with and we will and you know, it's life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have it any other way.

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<v Speaker 3>But just the unknown is what always it always worries me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Daisy is so young that if you guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you're not planning any big trips this summer,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. But if you do in the next

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know year or so, it'll be at an

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But when it comes to little ones, you really

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. It's true, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't give it a whole lot of thought when

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<v Speaker 1>there's when they're so young, about how they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, with the biggest gripes people have from vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>An update on traffic and weather and another sports update

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<v Speaker 1>eight forty whas Nick Coffee with you, John All on

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<v Speaker 1>parts of vacation, meaning the highlights, and I guess they

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the highlights being trying new foods in the area

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<v Speaker 1>that you're vacationing, visiting new places, just exploring unfamiliar destinations,

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<v Speaker 1>and relaxing. Those were the three most mentioned when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the highlights of vacations, which I think all

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Now the biggest gripes the worst parts. This

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<v Speaker 1>one makes total sense, but because it's completely out of

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If your plane's delayed, you're not at fault. It sucks

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I didn't realize that that part of Florida, if

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<v Speaker 1>least that time of the year. And then big crowds

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<v Speaker 1>and long lines came in at number three. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as vacation gripes, Yeah, that's that's where we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think we'd ever move our family

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<v Speaker 1>vacation to anywhere other than where we go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know many people go to Destin. There may be people

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<v Speaker 1>listening right now on on the out radio app because

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<v Speaker 1>they're vacationing in Destin and has in the morning is

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<v Speaker 1>if they're on vacation or not so so shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to you. But it is exploded over the years as

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<v Speaker 1>far as just the amount of people who go there.

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<v Speaker 1>It still has the everybody from Louisville there at any time,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean anytime we go, and we've stayed to different

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<v Speaker 1>as a family with my wife and our daughter initially

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<v Speaker 1>and then now my son. Now we've probably gone. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be our ninth straight year going as a family.

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<v Speaker 1>So each year we go, it's more crowded and we

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<v Speaker 1>see more people who in fact, you realize, oh, they've

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<v Speaker 1>they're staying in the same place we are. So we

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<v Speaker 1>like it so much that the crowd hasn't bothered us.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you go and try to get dinner or

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and that is a little bit annoying. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gotten to the point where we've decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go somewhere else. But I know there's plenty that once

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<v Speaker 1>their vacation spot becomes a vacation spot for many many others,

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<v Speaker 1>it loses a lot of its luster. And I totally

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<v Speaker 1>totally understand. We used to get lucky because we could

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<v Speaker 1>for Destined. But now once once my daughter started school

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<v Speaker 1>and my son will be in kindergarten starting this upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>have to go when everybody goes, right, we can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, we would go in late August before the

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<v Speaker 1>kids were in school because at that point we had

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<v Speaker 1>just missed the big crowd. Because most people who go

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<v Speaker 1>as a family, they've got to be back in their hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>can't be taking vacations right as school starts. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we go when everybody's trying to go. And it's still

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<v Speaker 1>been fun, but definitely a lot, a lot busier.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the vacation that you guys went on, was

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<v Speaker 1>it last summer? You went up north to the northeast.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to coastal Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's so I don't know anybody else that's made

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<v Speaker 1>a trip and just said, hey, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation and we're going to go to coastal Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much about coastal Delaware. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>something that comes up in mind for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to vacation. But I like

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of trips because there had to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of unknown, like you didn't know what to expect, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, absolutely, I mean it was. It's about as similar

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<v Speaker 4>drive as if you're going to floor or are You're

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<v Speaker 4>just going in a bit of a different direction. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of the same types of things, seafood restaurants,

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of stuff, but it's a different environment than

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<v Speaker 4>the typical, you know, way that you travel to get there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then obviously when you actually get there as well,

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<v Speaker 4>is a lot different than it is down in the South.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes just being in a place that is new to

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. I try to.

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<v Speaker 1>Balance trips every year to somewhere that I've not been before,

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<v Speaker 1>just to experience new things. But I also like, we

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<v Speaker 1>know what we like. We go to the same place

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<v Speaker 1>every year, and we we literally have almost every day

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<v Speaker 1>I'm oh, this is getting bold, this is getting boring,

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<v Speaker 1>this is getting old. No, it's we like it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that changing anytime. Soon, But I will

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<v Speaker 1>say planning, it's all Life's all about balance. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to have an itinerary when I'm on vacation because

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<v Speaker 1>i feel like I'm at work and I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of let the day play out because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm relaxing. But also it is good to have plans.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife she does all that, and at times

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<v Speaker 1>it seems annoying, but.

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<v Speaker 1>She's she's always, she's she's a great trip planner, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just show up and then she does

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But thank you for doing that always, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>little more about the Crystal Rogers the case. As the

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<v Speaker 1>trial continued yesterday, we heard from both prosecution and the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that and a lot more. It's coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess kind of coffee and company because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Coffee and I've got I've got company with you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got the company man John Alden and of

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<v Speaker 1>course Scott and John Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>So there we go. So news ready to wait forty whas.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven forty seven Here a Kentucky and his morning News

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<v Speaker 1>So we had the first day of testimony yesterday opening

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<v Speaker 1>statements in witness testimony in the Crystal Rogers case and

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<v Speaker 1>the let me make sure I've got it correct, yees.

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<v Speaker 1>So the prosecution they're aware that they you know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're facing what I believe is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not, maybe I'm wrong. Again, what do I know?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not somebody that would would be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you when it comes to a legal aspect, But no

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<v Speaker 1>body homicide and really no evidence that's anything other than circumstantial.

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<v Speaker 1>Just seems to be an uphill battle. But maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>still leads to them having some success. But the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>allegations is that the mother of Brooks Hawk, Rosemary Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>believed that Rogers was beneath the family and that she

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<v Speaker 1>discussed hiring someone to quote unquote get rid of Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>With Danny Singleton, who is a witness, and he reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>told her quote, if you have enough money, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get anything done, end quote. So that's the conspiracy aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And then cover up evidence. So the Lawsons,

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<v Speaker 1>the father and son duo, Joseph Lawson, his cell phone

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<v Speaker 1>pinged cell towers near the Bluegrass Parkway on July fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, which is consistent with the location where her

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<v Speaker 1>car was found. Stephen Lawson in his trial, that's the father.

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<v Speaker 1>He admitted to picking up his son Joseph after moving

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<v Speaker 1>her car which had a flat tire. And obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawk family involvement, it's not just the mother. Obviously Nick Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>who used to be a police officer. The prosecution has

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<v Speaker 1>planned to present a recorded conversation between Brooks and his mother, Rosemary,

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the other brother, Nick Hawk, who's a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>They were discussing his police cruiser which was searched. They

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<v Speaker 1>also allegedly I'm sorry. They also alleged that the Hawk

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<v Speaker 1>family secretly recorded in twenty fifteen their grand jury proceedings

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<v Speaker 1>to basically get their story straight, and those recordings were

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<v Speaker 1>found at Rosemary and Hawke's homes. So that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>threw out there yesterday as far as hey, here here's

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<v Speaker 1>timeline discrepancies, here is the conspiracy aspect of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, you know, they clearly wanted to point out

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<v Speaker 1>mostly just on speculative assumptions, theories, and guesses, and that was,

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<v Speaker 1>as you could expect, a big point of emphasis from

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. But they also challenged with the prosecution said

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<v Speaker 1>about Joseph Lawson's phone pinging near the Bluecrasts Parkway, noting

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<v Speaker 1>that he actually lives there nearby and those pings could

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<v Speaker 1>actually be coincidental. And then they claim on the defense

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<v Speaker 1>that this is all just an attack on the Hawke

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<v Speaker 1>family and they're unfairly targeting them. That's what the defense claimed,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've ignored other suspects along the way and have

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<v Speaker 1>used again, according to the defense, that law enforcement has

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<v Speaker 1>used questionable methods such as promising immunity to the Lossons,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course was later revoked. So where it goes

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<v Speaker 1>from here, it'll depend on the more the other witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>again just seem open and shut. Yeah, the likelihood of

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<v Speaker 1>that just being a coincidence is unbelievably unlikely. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not direct proof. And what it comes down to is

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<v Speaker 1>not what you can throw out there to lead somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to believe, it's what you can prove. Now, again, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean they won't end up being successful in finding

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<v Speaker 1>losson and how guilty here, But I know I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of many countless people across the country, certainly here locally,

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<v Speaker 1>that are anxious to see how this plays out. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get an update on traffic and weather, and then

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<v Speaker 1>another update on sports right here on news radio A

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<v Speaker 1>forty WHS
