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<v Speaker 1>This is Sham and I with the Mets and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Baplick's End Nerds.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, an, welcome to you Baplots on the Seed Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast with the British Twist, I am your host russ

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<v Speaker 2>A Lisam, and tonight I am joined by Ben Carter

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss some of the ongoings in British baseball, in

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<v Speaker 2>World Baseball and the MLB, and then to play a

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<v Speaker 2>fun game of can we work out who's having a

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad season? But before all that, Ben, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very good? Thanks for us. Yeah, pleased to be

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<v Speaker 1>joining you. I fear it's not going to be quite

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<v Speaker 1>as illuminating and informative as last week's two hando with

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<v Speaker 1>you and Darius, but I'll try my best to do

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<v Speaker 1>a Darius impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if people had listen to that podcast, what you

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<v Speaker 2>get is that, well, may like you can't really actually

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<v Speaker 2>analyze a lot of these things very well. It's still

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<v Speaker 2>becomes the conclusion is I don't know, Yeah, the conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>is we probably both would devalue defense and devalue Shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I thought you were spart on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. First things first, we're just gonna cover a few

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<v Speaker 2>things that are happening in British baseball have been happening

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<v Speaker 2>right now. The British under twenty threes are taking part

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<v Speaker 2>in the Under twenty three World Baseball Cup, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that the team has managed to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>They have lost all of their games so far, but

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<v Speaker 2>they've had three very close games that have come down

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<v Speaker 2>to the wire. Game against Australia where they had the

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<v Speaker 2>base I think bases loaded with one run down and

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<v Speaker 2>hit into a double play, or I had runners onto

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<v Speaker 2>first and second and hit into a double play, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a crushing one, an extra innings loss to and

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<v Speaker 2>a game against Columbia where they were up but conceded

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<v Speaker 2>five and inning. They've been put a really solid end

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<v Speaker 2>up for themselves, which I think is pretty amazing to

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<v Speaker 2>see from a britisherspective.

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<v Speaker 1>For fear, but yeah, I mean just seeing them out

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<v Speaker 1>on this stage, like you say, for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>is really cool. I mean they're up against some serious

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<v Speaker 1>powerhouses in the world of baseball and they're competing. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a shame they haven't actually get the win

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<v Speaker 1>in those games that you mentioned, three really tight games.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had the lead at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, maybe not the austral Again, that was

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<v Speaker 1>crazy back and forth, but still they were right in

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<v Speaker 1>that one, like you say, fine Linning look like they

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to take the lead. It ended up

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<v Speaker 1>not happening. But yeah, they're competing and playing really, really well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's super promising for the future of the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really exciting for yeah, for the team that will

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<v Speaker 1>be someday competing in the Olympics hopefully and in other

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<v Speaker 1>events too. So yeah, not the results maybe they would

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<v Speaker 1>have hoped for, but I think the fact they've been

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<v Speaker 1>so competitive against some really good teams is a promising sign.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know there are a few more games to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the next few days where hopefully they can

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<v Speaker 1>get that elusive victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they find themselves now in the placement group of

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom six teams, so they have some games against

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa, the Netherlands and Chinese Taipei as they are

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<v Speaker 2>in these tournament Taiwan. But we won't go into the

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<v Speaker 2>politics of why Olympic Sports have to call it Chinese Taipei.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for other far more politically inclined podcasts than it

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<v Speaker 2>is for us. But yeah, it's pretty awesome to see

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<v Speaker 2>them available to go to to China to go play

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<v Speaker 2>in a tournament like this, and all this will do

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<v Speaker 2>will improve GB's baseball ranking because they've never been in

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<v Speaker 2>this tournament before, so it's just extra points to slowly

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<v Speaker 2>work their way up that ranking system. So it's great

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<v Speaker 2>to see. It's been a pretty good year for British

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<v Speaker 2>baseball from the under eighteen, under fifteen and under twelve perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>so it'll be hopefully a good finish over the next

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<v Speaker 2>few games. Other things to talk about British baseball, we

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<v Speaker 2>are well into post season for British baseball itself. This

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<v Speaker 2>coming weekend we will have the NBL, the National Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>League and the Triple A Final, both down at Farnham Park.

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<v Speaker 2>There are both three game series, with one game on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday and two potential games on Sunday. I will be

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<v Speaker 2>working with my friends again with the Journey Sports Media

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<v Speaker 2>to commentate on these games, so if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear more of my Dulcet tones, we will share some

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<v Speaker 2>links out where you can watch. We'll show be showing

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<v Speaker 2>the first game of the Triple A Game a Triple

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<v Speaker 2>A Final on the first game of the NBL Finals

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday and then the NBL games on Sunday. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it only goes one game and the Triple A

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<v Speaker 2>goes two games, will show the second Triple A game

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so potentially four games of baseball voiced by

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<v Speaker 2>yours truly, which is just what everybody wants, right Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, super exciting. I know that you did this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was last year, wasn't it for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was really cool and I'm glad they bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back again this year. I think it should be a

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<v Speaker 1>really fun weekend a baseball down at Farnham Park. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the idea of three game series for each of

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<v Speaker 1>these I think that just gives an extra level of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like professionalism I suppose to these games,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes them feel a little bit more serious

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<v Speaker 1>then sometimes baseball can field, So I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. Obviously, the weekend after, I think, is then

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<v Speaker 1>doublin Single A Finals, which will also be yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>good battle between some really good teams. My Richmond Roebucks

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<v Speaker 1>did not make it to the Triple A Final this year, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>but the coin Pirates are in it and we played

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<v Speaker 1>them this year, so I can give you, know, a

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<v Speaker 1>good scouting report on them, the basics of which is

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good. So yeah, I'll be interest to see

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<v Speaker 1>who comes out on top of that contest. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>I can encourage everyone to tune in, not just to

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<v Speaker 1>watch in great baseball, if you say us, but to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your dulcet tones commentate and the pleasure that provides

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<v Speaker 1>all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>A yeah, and just to say, the Triple A Final

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<v Speaker 2>is the crowded Pirates against the Bristol Badgers and the

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<v Speaker 2>NBL Final is the London Mets versus the Essex Arrows,

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<v Speaker 2>so should be both fascinating games to watch. I also

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<v Speaker 2>concluded my baseball season the other weekend Ben with a

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<v Speaker 2>grueling fifteen to fourteen loss in the playoffs, heart break

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<v Speaker 2>eyeing runner being out at third picked off, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is a very British, faithful way to end

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<v Speaker 1>it and a heartbreaking one too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it was. It was a really fun day and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was a good one to go through. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's British baseball when it comes to MLB. Then is

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<v Speaker 2>there anything else to talk to apart from it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about the Mets. Baby?

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<v Speaker 1>You knew I was going to make an appearance for

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. Come on now, the Mets out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>showing up and putting themselves firmly in contention for a

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<v Speaker 1>wild card spot. We kind of thought that the playoff

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<v Speaker 1>races were all a bit dead, apart from, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some some contests for divisions and seeding, But the Mets

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<v Speaker 1>have come out of nowhere at exactly the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>The Braves have sort of skidded at the wrong time,

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<v Speaker 1>and as of recording, I think they're tied right now

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<v Speaker 1>on seventy nine wins. The Mets were briefly a game ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think last night results apported them back level.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, super exciting finish of the season in the

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<v Speaker 1>National League East, as it turns out, at some point

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<v Speaker 1>looked like the Cubs might even sneak into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've left it a little bit too little

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<v Speaker 1>too late to get into it, but that Braves Mets

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<v Speaker 1>race should be really good fun. And look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a soft spot for the Mets, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do a very good job hiding it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that they deserve to at least be in

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<v Speaker 1>contention going into the end of September, because they have

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<v Speaker 1>been one of the stories of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Start to finish, Yeah, and I think it's we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of did slightly push it to one side a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks back, saying that there's not much to go for there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at that time I've said there's about seventy

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance that one team of those who that weren't

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<v Speaker 2>in it might make it, and it pretty much looks

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<v Speaker 2>like the Mets are the only ones that has any

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<v Speaker 2>solid chance. Now, I think if you look at it,

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<v Speaker 2>the Tigers maybe have a ten percent chance, and a

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<v Speaker 2>few of us maybe have like a five percent chance,

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<v Speaker 2>being Boston and the Mariners. So effectively, if we want

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<v Speaker 2>something to happen, it is entirely in that Atlanta Versus

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<v Speaker 2>Mets territory. Although the d Backs are only a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of wins ahead, so they could get the Dbacks plummet.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it could be another division that has all three

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<v Speaker 2>teams making it.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually got so excited about the Mets comeback, Russ,

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<v Speaker 1>that I've written a poem about their season. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it, Oh, of course, but they're my

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<v Speaker 1>best absolute bunts impression here. But here we go, old

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<v Speaker 1>Mets fans, if only you knew what was in store

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<v Speaker 1>in this glorious year we call twenty twenty four. Some

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<v Speaker 1>disastrous performances in the month of May led a reliever

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<v Speaker 1>named Porge Lopez to confidently say, this is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>team in the whole fucking MLB, after getting ejected and

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<v Speaker 1>giving his glove a yeat a mistranslation it transpired, though,

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<v Speaker 1>he was swiftly sent down ahead of their visit to

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<v Speaker 1>our very own London town, a rare but welcome trip

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<v Speaker 1>to landsmore foreign that we won't soon forget, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Torrens, who inspired TNT's Darren Fletcher to say, what

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable double play? And if that was the spark

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<v Speaker 1>that lit the fire, gasoline was about to be dumped.

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<v Speaker 1>It would transpire a young purple hero who we know

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<v Speaker 1>as Grimace, would capture the hearts of a nation we

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<v Speaker 1>all bore witness a winning streak. The Mets hit their

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<v Speaker 1>stride thanks to a purple blob, and the month of Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Still the winds eat away, the team back in the

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<v Speaker 1>sewer of the National League East no thanks to Hawk Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>But as September arrived, so too did a charge some hits,

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<v Speaker 1>then some more was truly a barrage Lindor MVP. He's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly their lightning rod a Met season that causes us

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<v Speaker 1>all to say, oh my God, just rather rather, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping deb to add a couple more verses to that,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how the rest of September goes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't believe how many weird things have happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets this year, so I wanted to chronicle them

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<v Speaker 1>all in poem.

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<v Speaker 2>For If that wasn't such a specific thing, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe accused you of using chat GBT to write

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<v Speaker 2>a poem for you. But such specific moments that have

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<v Speaker 2>we've discussed.

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<v Speaker 1>To be complimented or offended, but being compared to chat GBT.

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<v Speaker 1>But that, yeah, that was ten minutes that I should

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<v Speaker 1>have spent preparing for this pod properly, instead spent writing

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<v Speaker 1>out a love letter to my New York Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, and I hope it is as memorable as

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<v Speaker 2>some of those absolute bunts moments. I still when I

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<v Speaker 2>hear certain songs, hear things like Bernie Brew.

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<v Speaker 1>They've ruined taken me out to the ball game for

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<v Speaker 2>Say oh yeah, or the Joe Worse Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Those things stick in my head and I do occasionally

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<v Speaker 2>the songs. Not a shame to say that whatsoever. Apart

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<v Speaker 2>from the Mets ben is there anything else that we

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<v Speaker 1>There's still some fun divisional races out there, aren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your Cleveland Guardians have rallied a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>line up with who? But there will be some some

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<v Speaker 1>edge of our seat, and a few other guys kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hunting down individual awards. But yeah, I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>risked not having much to watch a tour in these

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks from a playoffs perspective, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have something that we can check the scores

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<v Speaker 1>for every morning and see how it's developing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we don't even have to probably even guess whether

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<v Speaker 2>baseball because to kind of avoid that now they need

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<v Speaker 2>to do better than five hundred in their last few games.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that is all but guaranteed that they

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<v Speaker 2>will now have like the best record since the Cleveland Spiders,

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<v Speaker 2>the worst, the best, but the best worst record.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that is yeah, I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>would have done that, but in this era of baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>to be that bad is genuinely impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the scary thing was the quotes that the

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<v Speaker 2>if you told me this to be one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bit harsh. But if we've been a one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and five lost team to one hundred GUS team,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have said, yeah, okay, so well you're just

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<v Speaker 2>admitting that you just didn't bother trying and you were

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to lose a hundred wins, which is just lose

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred games. It's just that's an unbelievable position to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the quote to you where he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>those are just the cards we've been dealt. You're the

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<v Speaker 1>dealer man, as someone I'm not want to give them

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<v Speaker 1>credit for. Twitter confidently said, there's not in the cards

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<v Speaker 1>you've been dealt. That's what you've done yourself. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a mess of your very own making. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no excuse. I don't know quite how you put

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<v Speaker 1>a product so pitiful on the field all season, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, made the A's good, which is impressive

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So in going from that to the little fun

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<v Speaker 2>task that Ben and I have decided to put forward

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<v Speaker 2>to each other today, we're going to give a stat

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<v Speaker 2>line on a surprisingly good or surprisingly bad season, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have to try and work out cool that is

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<v Speaker 2>whom has provided us that stat line. So Ben, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to start us off? You probably don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to say whether it's bad or good given what the

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know exactly how you want it. Do you want? So?

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<v Speaker 1>What I've got that written down for eature of mine

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<v Speaker 1>is like three separate stats. The first one is like

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<v Speaker 1>the triple slash or you know, different for pictures to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair for me to do like that first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can have a guess if you think you

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<v Speaker 1>know it. And then I've got like home runs and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got like WRC plus yeah, and then if you

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<v Speaker 1>still can't get it, I can give you some more hints.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can work and have like a piering

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<v Speaker 2>of stats to kind of get a guess each time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm a little bit scared that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be quite good at this. I'm going to really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's see how this plays out. But my first

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<v Speaker 1>player is a hitter, and he this year has put

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<v Speaker 1>up a triple slash of two point fifty one batting average,

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<v Speaker 1>a three seventy two on base percentage, and a four

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six slugging percentage. Does that screen out any names

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Is anyone that comes to mind?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's so four ninety six slugging and what was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Four nine six slugging three seven two on base two

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<v Speaker 1>five to one batting average.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a lot of walks that's good. Like that

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody who is like in the eight fifty like

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<v Speaker 2>ops range, which will probably put you now trying to

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<v Speaker 2>work things out off the top of my head, like

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<v Speaker 2>a solid kind of like one twenty one thirty probably

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<v Speaker 2>WRC plus.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll tell you now it's a one forty WRC plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because it's down to seven hundred, isn't it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that strucked me a lot this season. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like keep on having to re assess what I think

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<v Speaker 2>average should be, Like the batting has got like so

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<v Speaker 2>much worse that you're kind of sat at this position

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<v Speaker 2>to be like doing this. So we're talking about somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's got like a one forty w RC, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you didn't think they were going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>one forty w RC, so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say this isn't a bad player by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really put them in here becuse they're a

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say it's it's come out of nowhere. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a year above their averages.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's jumped out to me? He's had a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good But I don't think it's tell Marte. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's done a little bit better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not tell Marte, no good.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess who's You're not throwing a Spencer Horowitz on me

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<v Speaker 2>here from Toronto or I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not giving you Spencer Horowitz. No ive got thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>home runs? So one of well, actually I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of Dingers, lots of dingers. Who's had that

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<v Speaker 2>many jerks of profile?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not profile, profile had that many things as Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he's having a good year. Scould have been him.

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<v Speaker 2>In yeah, profile, if he wasn't one of not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>he was one of my potentials. I create quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few lists. But now that I guess I can't really

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you, I guess give you another hint. His

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<v Speaker 1>winds above replacement is not as high as his other

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<v Speaker 1>numbers would lead you to believe. How man, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I can get the exact number.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he plays a poor defensive position or is

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<v Speaker 2>it DH yep, while narrowed down Schwarber Schwarber is correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that feel? Is that slightly below what you anticipated?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's above what I anticipated? Well and soly

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<v Speaker 1>in the batting average area, Hordeoble hit under two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>last year. He's now at two fifty this year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>always been good at walk, he's always been good at power,

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<v Speaker 1>So those two things aren't you but the average is

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<v Speaker 1>better than usual. The reason I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring this up is it's I think he's having a

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<v Speaker 1>high up on the the war lists. He's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up with a career that looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame or anything like that. This year

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<v Speaker 1>he's got three and a half wins above replacement, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Fangrass, which is the best year of his career

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<v Speaker 1>in that area by some distance. To be fair, if

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<v Speaker 1>WRC plus is one of the highest of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>Babbit obviously is high, which is what's driving that high

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<v Speaker 1>batting average. Yeah, if you told me back when the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Cubs team in the World Series that one of

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<v Speaker 1>these players were going to age very well when the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them basically were going to be absolutely duds

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<v Speaker 1>by the time twenty twenty four odd around, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Schwalba would have been my last guess at the player

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<v Speaker 1>who would be elite still, given he was a pudgy

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<v Speaker 1>bat only player back when he was twenty three years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is now still pretty pudgy and bat only,

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<v Speaker 1>but still an elite hitter. So I just think his

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<v Speaker 1>that he continues to basically get better with age is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>But you seem like you're underwhelmed than that he's too

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<v Speaker 1>good a player to go in here.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think you're right that it is a I

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<v Speaker 2>think as a own wish warbur a Klind you think

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<v Speaker 2>purely about like home runs like that is like what

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<v Speaker 2>when I think about him, that's what I go. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that he's hit forty forty plus in the

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<v Speaker 2>last two years, so maybe he's still on to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like do that again. I think what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>here is just that, yeah, that batting average has come up,

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<v Speaker 2>which is meant that his overall kind of like run

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<v Speaker 2>value has come up with significantly. It's just lost a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in that the Philadelphia team that has got

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<v Speaker 2>so many more stars around him and so many of

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<v Speaker 2>the more just talking points. Is Trade Turner going to

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<v Speaker 2>be good or bad? His castiano is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad? What's hardpacking with you today? That's like

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take home all of the immediate attention that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of you.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes someon so important, right is that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of players in that line up that breathe a

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<v Speaker 1>bit hot and cold, and he's just been remarkably consistent

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<v Speaker 1>and actually since they move him to the leadoff spot,

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<v Speaker 1>which he seems to have taken to like a ductor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's at the record last night for most

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<v Speaker 1>leadoff home runs in one season fourteen, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, I just think an underrated component

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<v Speaker 1>of that Phillies team and a Phillies team has last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Is actually that that free agency deal they gave him

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<v Speaker 1>looks pretty good right now. I think he's got one

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<v Speaker 1>more year left on it, but I didn't think that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to age well and it has.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Okay, okay, I'm going to give you a start line, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>Then here we go. So batting two ninety eight good

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<v Speaker 2>with a three seventy one OBP.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>A five seventy nine slow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's very good. Okay, that five seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine seconds. They've got a lot pop too. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that feels like it's on Bobby wear junior levels.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it is Bobbyweair junior because he's

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<v Speaker 1>already been very good for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it is. It's better than uh, it's actually,

424
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you right now. The WRC plus is one

425
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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty eight, which is exactly the same as

426
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<v Speaker 2>as Bobby Whitt junior. Oh really slightly different composition, but yeah.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Someone I think a Bobby wit junior season and I

428
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<v Speaker 1>can't think of her as uh okay, give me another hint.

429
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<v Speaker 2>This is a very online baseball hint, but foolish. Base

430
00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.240
<v Speaker 2>looks very foolish given this person's banning average this year.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I think I did see a reference to this.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Is it someone on the a's.

433
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<v Speaker 2>It is someone on the a's.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Who is it on the a's. It's not Brent Rooker.

435
00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:16.160
<v Speaker 2>It is Brent Rookers.

436
00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Brent Ruoker. Oh my god, he's having a good season.

437
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<v Speaker 1>That I would You could have given me a thousand guesses.

438
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<v Speaker 1>I would not have got Brent Rooker without the online

439
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<v Speaker 1>baseball hint.

440
00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, it's just what you say. It's a

441
00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.599
<v Speaker 2>a three sixty eight babit. I think it's going to

442
00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.880
<v Speaker 2>significantly help any of that. But he's hit thirty five

443
00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.759
<v Speaker 2>home run. He strikes out nearly thirty percent at the time,

444
00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he walks ten percent at the time. But he's showing

445
00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.680
<v Speaker 2>power and he's showing that. Like, yes, defensively he probably

446
00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.240
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be isn't very good, but at that one hundred

447
00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and sixty eight WRC plus is act that is in

448
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<v Speaker 2>line with Jordan Alvarez, Kyle Tucker, Shoio, Tani, Bobby Witch junor.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, one of the five best hit in baseball

450
00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:00.759
<v Speaker 1>this year.

451
00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, only see people that are significantly better, or Juan

452
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Soto and Aaron Judge.

453
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<v Speaker 1>My god, good for you. Brent Rickert, Wow, give us

454
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>then we'll give us.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Go go the other way this time.

456
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<v Speaker 1>You want a player who's been worse than usual? Yeah,

457
00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, okay, fine, another hitter. Then their slash line

458
00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:25.559
<v Speaker 1>this year is a two thirty seven batting average, a

459
00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:30.960
<v Speaker 1>three seventeen on base percentage, and a four forty slugging percentage.

460
00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Those are all yeah, way below what this person hit

461
00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.079
<v Speaker 1>last year. And and actually their averages for the last

462
00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>few years. Their WRC plus is at one oh seven,

463
00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:43.920
<v Speaker 1>so they're still a buvely gaverage.

464
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<v Speaker 2>But so they're still abovely gaverage. But we would be

465
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<v Speaker 2>expecting like a lot more of them. Okay, So immediately

466
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<v Speaker 2>I jumped to someone like Corbyn Carroll sod a pretty

467
00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>poor season, It would be guest.

468
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.039
<v Speaker 1>He it's not Calledyn Carroll. I think Carrol has brought

469
00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.319
<v Speaker 1>it back a bit in recent mons. Let me see

470
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<v Speaker 1>where he's up to, because he was really bad first half.

471
00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't he?

472
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think my internet will play ball here.

473
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<v Speaker 2>There are plenty people I want to say, but I

474
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<v Speaker 2>know I've had worse seasons, like I know Simeon's had

475
00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:16.160
<v Speaker 2>a worse season than that.

476
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Carolsne's pretty close. Actually that was a good guess. He's

477
00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.759
<v Speaker 1>two two nine average, three fifteen ADP four twenty slugging

478
00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 1>for a one three WRC plus. So you were on

479
00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the right lines.

480
00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Who's going to be down there with that low average

481
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.799
<v Speaker 2>but still playing like. It's not Alonso because he's got

482
00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.640
<v Speaker 2>too much power. Jeff McNeil, It is not.

483
00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeff McNeil, the flying squirrel. Now, this player's got twenty

484
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.880
<v Speaker 1>five home runs, so not altogether lacking in.

485
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Power, any five home runs, still.

486
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Probably below where we would have guessed this person would

487
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<v Speaker 1>be home runs at this time.

488
00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>If you're saying that, I think there's probably only one

489
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.359
<v Speaker 2>other players I can go, and that's Matt Olson.

490
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:57.119
<v Speaker 1>It is Matt Olson, Alanta Braves slugger who last year

491
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:01.519
<v Speaker 1>hit two eighty three three eighty nine six four for

492
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a one six ' one wrc plus with fifty four dingers.

493
00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>And this year, I mean hasn't been bad, but has

494
00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:11.319
<v Speaker 1>has fallen to earth quite significantly. And there was training himself.

495
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this gone nder the radar a bit.

496
00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't noticed that he'd been quite that bad. So

497
00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I look up his Baseball Savump page and actually,

498
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>exit vlow, barrel percentage, hard hit percentage are all still

499
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:23.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. A little bit down from where he was

500
00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:26.880
<v Speaker 1>last year obviously when he was so good. But it

501
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't kind of seem obvious where this fall off has

502
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>come from. It kind of just feels like maybe he's

503
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.559
<v Speaker 1>gone into some bad luck or he hasn't quite barreled

504
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>up as many as he did during his his elite

505
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>season last year. But kind of worrying signs for a

506
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>guy who looked like he was turning into an elite bat.

507
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, just looking he's gone from a fourteen point

508
00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>four percent wark crate to a nine and a half

509
00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:49.240
<v Speaker 2>percent war crate. So yeah, it might not. It might

510
00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>be the choosing what to swing on compared to the

511
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.319
<v Speaker 2>contact he's actually like making. It's made a big difference,

512
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 2>and then if he's swinging a bit more, he's getting

513
00:23:58.240 --> 00:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>less good pictures to.

514
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's this league is BRUTALTI because once

515
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, teams kind of find a hole in your

516
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 1>swing or find somewhere that you're weak that they just

517
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.680
<v Speaker 1>attack it merciless. You don't they you know, he does

518
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 1>seem to have chased a lot down and in which

519
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>might be what teams are identifying as the weakness. But yeah,

520
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that that they found, he doesn't seem

521
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to have been able to correct to yet.

522
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Not not not what they anticipated. They'll talk about

523
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>those deals and who maybe won those deals even though

524
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously signed the massive contracts. Afterwards, you're kind of he's

525
00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:33.319
<v Speaker 2>everybody thinking that, well, he's going to be just the

526
00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 2>new best catcher in baseball, and it's just gone, Nope.

527
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Both the controllers, they're probably doing better.

528
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>The Athletics knew they had Mattelson Junior in the in

529
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the wings, in in Brent Recer.

530
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<v Speaker 2>All right, do you want a picture or a hitter?

531
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<v Speaker 1>Ben, give me a picture?

532
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I will tell you that in April to June,

533
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>this player started sixteen games at a five point one

534
00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>one ERA.

535
00:24:59.319 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's not good.

536
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Before they were sent down to Triple A. I'll tell

537
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you since June, this player has been in Triple A

538
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 2>and has a five point one four ERA.

539
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.799
<v Speaker 1>That's also bad. Wow. And it was someone that you

540
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 1>would expect to be pitching.

541
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, someone that I think a lot of people had

542
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 2>thoughts that they were going to be a good picture. Yeah,

543
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>based on they had missed a load of twenty twenty

544
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>three injured. I'll give you that, But they had a

545
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.200
<v Speaker 2>very good twenty twenty two two.

546
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it's not Walker Buler. He wasn't back at

547
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that point, was he? He has been bad since he came.

548
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Back, though, No Buela has been bad. Bueller was another

549
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>one that I nearly nearly chose in this list.

550
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Injured in twenty twenty two, twenty three, good and twenty

551
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>two and then bad. Oh no, it can't be. I

552
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.759
<v Speaker 1>think of the Blue Jay's pitcher who was like Cyn

553
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>candidate and then fell off the face of the earth.

554
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not Alec Minoa, Alec Maner.

555
00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I can you remember his name? God, go and give

556
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>me another hemt um?

557
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>What is it? Good? Can hint to give? Well? I'll

558
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 2>give you his twenty twenty two stats. He pitched on

559
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and ninety one innings with a two point

560
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>nine six ERA, So it's three and a half war season.

561
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>And yeah he played these in. Oh, this might give

562
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it away, but he plays in the Ale central, Well

563
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't quite now play in the Ale central.

564
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>But central picture. Tristan McKenzie yeah is it?

565
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

566
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's sad. I like Tristan McKenzie, I didn't

567
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 1>realized he'd been that bad this year. Oh Fortress. He's

568
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 1>got like a partially torn newcland stuff as well, hasn't

569
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he that he's been playing through.

570
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just don't know, like it just it just

571
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't seem to just work. Just don't like the FIP

572
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>is like six and a half. It's not like he's

573
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>been getting like bad luck with what's been going on.

574
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 2>It's just not had like did not have control, like

575
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 2>was just walking like he had a like five point

576
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>eight walks per nine. It's just when you're averaging like

577
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 2>walking at like almost basically a person burning, and you're like,

578
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>this is just not good.

579
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Because he used his control was his calling card. Right

580
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>at twenty twenty two season, he wasn't walking anyone.

581
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. He had a Yeah it was

582
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 2>two in that season. His walk rate is effectively three

583
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 2>times worse than what it was. His strikeout rate is

584
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>virtually in line, home run rate is basically doubled. So

585
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like you just had to throw meet

586
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>balls to try and get it get ahead in some places,

587
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's just utterly, utterly punished.

588
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>A shame of people like me who want to have

589
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a stick thin idle in baseball. He did always look

590
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 1>like he would be what sixty five kilos dripping wet.

591
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 1>He was so slender.

592
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I was tod he would break, which he

593
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of did when came back.

594
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>But it was just like, yeah, true, there was some

595
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>injuries that you're sort of more of a problem, but

596
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ah well, hopefully he comes back. Por Tristan, I will

597
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>chair chair us up a bit with a good player.

598
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>It's another picture. And to be fair, I'm gonna tell

599
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 1>you know he's a reliever. I don't want you to

600
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.880
<v Speaker 1>getting confused that you know, it might be a start

601
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 1>of our but it's a relief pitcher who has set

602
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 1>career bests in all of the below stats this year.

603
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the RA one point seventy nine. That's

604
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. One point per nine twelve point zero eight, Okay,

605
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not okase BB's per nine, walks per nine two

606
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 1>point twenty four, that's pretty low. Anyone comes to mind,

607
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you. I don't even say I can get

608
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like innings and stuff like that. That might help a

609
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>bit as well. He's pitched all season, so it's not

610
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like he's.

611
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>A okay, yeah, well you're talking like one point seventy nine,

612
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>that's not I'm trying to think of the guys now

613
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that have something below. There's only like I don't know

614
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>if the top of my head, but there's like ten

615
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>guys who are below two. Yeah.

616
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 1>When I was looking this up, I hadn't realized quite

617
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>how many really good relievers there are this year.

618
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>So who are the people that may we maybe don't

619
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>would be questioned or maybe coming back? Kebby eight, like

620
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>he's been pretty kind of like epic for Texas that

621
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 2>you might.

622
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Not, Yeah, but he has been fantastic for Texas.

623
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yet he's much lower than that. He's like one point

624
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>two one point three. Yeah, I think he is.

625
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>As even though, and actually I think his like, so

626
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 1>this guy's that I'm talking about, his fit is two

627
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>point four one, so he's slightly achieving above it. I think,

628
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>heybe Yates fIF is even below to his His season's unreal.

629
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you've played all season, then it's not going

630
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to be puck who played well.

631
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 1>But it's basically sixty and a third innings pitched to

632
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this point it's.

633
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Not Hunting Gaddess. And now, as much as I want

634
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Hunter Gaddys, he has like a one

635
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 2>five your a alex form the first round pick, former

636
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 2>first round pick for the first round pick, who's a

637
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>freaking reliever, who's a former first round pick? Oh that

638
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>is a disgusting.

639
00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a bit of a sneak. I don't

640
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 1>know if you would think of him as a former

641
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>first round pick, but I think former top prospect.

642
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Would be fair to say, Oh, who's the Phillies.

643
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 1>He is on the Phillies. We saw him in London,

644
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we did it's.

645
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>The Oh yeah, it's not the duff Man, it's the

646
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>hoff Man.

647
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>There he is the Rockies legend, Jeff Hoffman. Who I mean,

648
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it breaks my heart a little bit to see him

649
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>be this good, but he has been sensational.

650
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Man comes go leave, leaves what leaves Colorado after what

651
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.039
<v Speaker 2>years of like five eras to go to Cincinnati for

652
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>a bit and then it's now.

653
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Just it's crazy. Since he got to Philly, how good

654
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Like they literally brought him in, flicked a switch and

655
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>he's been an elite shutdown relieve ever since with the Rockies. Yeah,

656
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 1>he never had an ERA better than four point eighty eight,

657
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>which he did over thirty innings in his rookie year.

658
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Then he went to Cincinnati obviously was a converted reliever

659
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 1>and maybe converted before that point to reliever and was like, okay,

660
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>replacement level, And the minute he got to Philly, he

661
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just added three miles an hour to his fastball and

662
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 1>turned into one of the best relievers in the game,

663
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean insane.

664
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, as we say, Dave knows what he's doing for

665
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to bullpens.

666
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess he does. I mean yeah, I think

667
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>he's even closing games now for Philly. So good for you,

668
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Offmany. Yeah, if you didn't know it, you will

669
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in October because Jeff Hoffman is going to be getting

670
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>some high leverage outs at the end of games for

671
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the Phillies. Right.

672
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll ask you Ben again, Ben, to want a good

673
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>or a bad picture. I mean a good sorry, a

674
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 2>good picture or hitter.

675
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>A good picture or a good hitter. I don't think

676
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be worse at the pictures, but I also

677
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>think they're more fun. To give me a picture.

678
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's like, I just can't I did this thing,

679
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and I immediately was like, there's like five relievers that

680
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I just like, all Cleveland based that I can be like, oh, Ben,

681
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>have you heard of Haydes Smith?

682
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>And I thought about being sneaky and giving you a

683
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland leaver bar. I was like, here or sniff list

684
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a mile out? So I can't even try hero.

685
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>And gaddis like, there's two fantasy leagues that I'm doing

686
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>very well in because I just know those guys have

687
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>just been like utterly phenomenal for like the entire season.

688
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 2>It's completely utly mental to go through that. But no,

689
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>let's go for is this going to be? Oh no,

690
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I did have one that I was going to do

691
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>for this. Yes. So has pitched twenty seven games, one

692
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty three point one innings. He has a

693
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>two point nine to nine ERA with averaging ten point

694
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>five seven k's per night.

695
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, that's a lot of case for a starter

696
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty something. Ains. You say it's not

697
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>going super deep into games though, who is nowadays misting

698
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>ERA play three?

699
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's it basically averaging about five and a half

700
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 2>per per start.

701
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Is this American League on National League? National League, National

702
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 1>League who's been It's not it's not Aminaga.

703
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not Amnaga. I'll tell you that this person is

704
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of a recent convert to starting.

705
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this isn't going to make a very good podcasting

706
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 1>with me just going National League.

707
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>They were involved in probably the biggest trade of the

708
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>winter and.

709
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>The biggest trade of the winter. Okay, that should be

710
00:32:58.200 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 1>a big enough hint to get me somewhere.

711
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I know I have to double check this, but I

712
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>assume being traded in December from the New York Yankees.

713
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>From the New York Yankees, I should be able to

714
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>get listed. And the Yankees starter or reliever turned starter

715
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>who's been really good with a new team this year.

716
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've stumped me here, Okay, come on, r

717
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like your brain, Oh, Michael King, you guys, Wow, he

718
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 1>has been really good this year.

719
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I removed one relief appearance that he does. He's

720
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like yeah, which takes his era up to

721
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>three point one. But yeah, it's like he's beens his

722
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>first year starting. He took so basically for the Yankees,

723
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>like he started some games last year, but like had

724
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>he started nine games last year but had forty games

725
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>in relief. In twenty twenty two, he was pure relief.

726
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>In twenty one and twenty he had some scam starts

727
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 2>and some relief, So he's kind of been this when

728
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>required starter but more relief. And then yeah, this year

729
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 2>is he's shown he's pitched like fifty innings more than

730
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>he pitched at any other point in his career and

731
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>has got effectively a similar ra to what he had

732
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 2>last year when he was a mixer of a reliever

733
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and a starter.

734
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>So for you, Michael Kay, well, they I guess they

735
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>can't really afford to shut him down because they're going

736
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to need him in the playoffs.

737
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be part of that rotation if

738
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they if they if they make it to the playoffs,

739
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty likely. But yes, it's it's a pretty pre

740
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>remarkable one, one that I don't think many people probably saw,

741
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>especially when I think in twenty twenty two they've just gone,

742
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>you're a pure reliever. Now he went thirty four games

743
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>with like fifty one innings pitch, which gives you maybe

744
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>like he's this one maybe two inning guy.

745
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I remember Hi being like a multi ning

746
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>guy in the pen who at one point was real

747
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 1>weapon for the Yankees. Yeah, toward the end of games.

748
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I did not see that coming. Well, I

749
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>only prepared three bland resumes because lost to your busy

750
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>writing my poem. But if you have other ones that

751
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 1>you want to throw out there, we could quickly I

752
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>could quick guess guess them.

753
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we could do so we can do a quick

754
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 2>fire Okay, hit a. This is performing worse than anticipated

755
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>hit A two forty six three oh three four point fifteen,

756
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 2>which is effectively as a one oh one WRC.

757
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Plus I'm performing hitters. Hilio Rodriguez or else has been

758
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 1>bad this year.

759
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 2>This one is potentially down to age. But if it is,

760
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 2>they've kind of dropped off a clickliff fast.

761
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not the time. It's non Nada. You're gonna bak

762
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 1>my heart.

763
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>It's not Nolan Aaronado, but you're very close in thinking

764
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that he's been bad. The gold it is Paul gold

765
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>no Goldie, or as a few listeners to effectively wild

766
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>might know that Ben gave him a stray shot the

767
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>other day and called him Paul old Schmidt.

768
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 1>He is having such a good career. As kind of

769
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 1>sad when a player that consistent just loses it.

770
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like one oh one this season, with one

771
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty one this season before and then like twenty twenty

772
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 2>two short season, but it was one seventy five, one

773
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty one forty WRC plus like this will be at

774
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 2>one oh one. This is going to be his worst

775
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 2>season today from WRC plus perspective.

776
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 1>So I did know him a bit of a disservice.

777
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>He's he's been a one hundred WRC plus exactly hitter

778
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 1>this season. And no, actually that's worse than what you

779
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>just said, isn't it. So maybe I haven't done a disservice.

780
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's see who else did I have as some quick

781
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>ones pitcher A four oh seven era maybe more concerningly,

782
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a four point six y six FIP one hundred and

783
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>forty six one and forty eight innings pitched from twenty

784
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 2>eight games.

785
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Umm, who's performed as a pitcher this year? A couple

786
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 1>of guys in the Ashos have Erlander.

787
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Erlander's not played enough? Ben, Come on, has he not

788
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:35.679
<v Speaker 2>played enough?

789
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He has an injured for a while, hasn't he? Oh?

790
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Who's uh?

791
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>No, go on, give another Clay, Let's go cook sip

792
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>easy clue. Yankees oh Yankees picture, uh Stroman like a Stroman.

793
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's sad.

794
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like his era is not too dissimilar to what

795
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 2>it was last year, but it's just like all of

796
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the underlying metrics look worse. Like his xcra, is FIP

797
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and his x FIP are all significantly high than they

798
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>were last year.

799
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 1>So kind of way because you would have think as

800
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a ground ball picture, no disrespect to the Yankees in

801
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>field defense, that his proper was probably better than his

802
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>actual numbers. But maybe the Yankees in field defense is

803
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 1>better than I'm getting it credit for.

804
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just one of those ones where you kind

805
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>of how it flits through giving up the home runs

806
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>at a worse rate than he did the year before,

807
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>but it's strikeout rates have dropped. I had one one more.

808
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>For you, Ben Michael King instead, huh yeah.

809
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>One more one more for you. This is a this

810
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>is a reliever, a reliever.

811
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Great, it's going to really test my knowledge.

812
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 2>They have pitched fifty one innings this year. They have

813
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a point lucascheg four point nine four ERA a point

814
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 2>ninety four okay bad. They have twenty two saves, Okay,

815
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

816
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Twenty says the four point ninety four Rah. I was

817
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, Greg Kimberley's been quite good this year, hasn't

818
00:37:56.280 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 1>he can Canny Jansen new I'll.

819
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Tell you the season before they had a two point

820
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>ninety three e r A thirty nine.

821
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Say it was good and now it's not so good.

822
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not. No, it's not Devin Williams. He was injured

823
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's been good since he came back. Oh, it's

824
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 1>not it's not Josh Hader.

825
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>It is not Josh Hader.

826
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 1>He's not been that bad.

827
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 2>A National league player, National league playing in uh in California.

828
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what does that leave me with? Dodgers or

829
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Padres m or there's another one National League California.

830
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 2>It's maybe a city called San Francisco. That'sh the Giants of.

831
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>God. Just to remove him from my memory.

832
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so it's Dov It is Camillo de var Man.

833
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's like young Teo.

834
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 2>What happened twenty seven? It's one of these ones you

835
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>don't quite know. It's like three years of being a

836
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid or two and a half years of being

837
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a pretty solid reliever, and then he.

838
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Was always kind of wild though wasn't he like he

839
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 1>would walk. Guy. Oh my god, it's walking a lot

840
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of guys this year.

841
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the big he would walk guys. Yeah, he

842
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 2>did have a three and a half, like four walk

843
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 2>rate per nine compared to like the two that you

844
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 2>get from a lot of star a lot of relievers.

845
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<v Speaker 2>But the k's are there, and the k's are still there.

846
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<v Speaker 2>It's just the walk rate has just gone absolutely like

847
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<v Speaker 2>through the roof. Yes, he's got a three forty babbit,

848
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<v Speaker 2>which it's not is not like wouldn't be sustained over

849
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<v Speaker 2>an extended period of time. But he's given up home

850
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>runs at an unprecedented rate, and he's walking people at

851
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<v Speaker 2>an unprecedented rate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bad recipe, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a bad recipe. Come here, I have I

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<v Speaker 2>had one more stat. I can't see if I've still

855
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<v Speaker 2>got it saved or not. This is just a brilliant

856
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>stat that I wanted to ask you. This is a

857
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<v Speaker 2>player that's been remarkably good and remarkably bad in this season.

858
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<v Speaker 2>Ben So guy, hopefully this brown so effectively. At one

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00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 2>point over at a fifteen game average, this person had

860
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 2>a five thirty woe but which is pretty phenomenal, and

861
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<v Speaker 2>has also had a one sixty nine wOBA over a

862
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>fifteen game average.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, streaky, streaky, don't know, Christian Walker.

864
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<v Speaker 2>No, it's coming off the fact that last year they

865
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<v Speaker 2>also had a fifteen game spell of five hundred and

866
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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight wober and a one eighty four worker Jesus

867
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<v Speaker 2>So who had very very loud low followed by a

868
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<v Speaker 2>very big high lass.

869
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you're gonna have to tell me go on,

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<v Speaker 1>who was.

871
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Given a round of applause. Try yep, oh wow, yep.

872
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<v Speaker 2>Like he started this season below average, got better and

873
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<v Speaker 2>better and better and better, then absolutely shut the bed,

874
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<v Speaker 2>and then has kind of got back to average again.

875
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Either weird weird player nowadays, isn't he seem to join

876
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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies.

877
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. It's just, I don't know, Like,

878
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<v Speaker 2>if you if you look at his stats from like

879
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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two to the normals to the end of

880
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, it's just a wOBA line that just

881
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 2>steadily goes down and you're like, oh my god, and

882
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 2>then it shoots back up and you're like, oh, maybe

883
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>he's okay, and then it drops back off again and

884
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>then this season is like us kind of trending back

885
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>up to a good level, drop back off a cliff again.

886
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh now we're trending back to normal normalacy. But yeah,

887
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<v Speaker 2>boy has up with a.

888
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Good season or at all, well, unless he keeps pummeting.

889
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's still got like WRC plus or whatever,

890
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 2>which is like not really anything to complain about when

891
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>you're a probably defense first flighter.

892
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>But I did enjoy the round of applause to the

893
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>plate last year. That was very fun. I don't know

894
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>in fact Phillies fans doing that again this year, but

895
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<v Speaker 1>maybe they should.

896
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes cool, So I hope listeners you have enjoyed that

897
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<v Speaker 2>as much as Ben and I have. I hope you

898
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<v Speaker 2>were shouting along at us and telling us that we

899
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>are for not knowing the things, and telling me off

900
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>for picking my Homer picks and making Ben try to

901
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 2>work out who her help? What the hell happened to

902
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Tristan McKenzie.

903
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>But this has been good. I feel like maybe next

904
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>time we should do like a We'll tweet it out

905
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the day before and get other people to send in

906
00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 1>some blind resumes, and then we'll try to try and

907
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 1>guess from what they send This.

908
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Just feels like doing the the Tom Briggle what Happened

909
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>in Baseball Last Year? Podcast? Again?

910
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Correct? Yeah, although you know at least we'll learn something

911
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>compared to the John McGee Planned Names and Baseball Players podcast.

912
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, let's remember baseball players from when I didn't

913
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 2>even watch baseball.

914
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I feel like I've learned a lot ros So

915
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

916
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<v Speaker 2>No worries obviously, as always our listeners. You can find

917
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 2>our website at bat flips and nerds dot com. You

918
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<v Speaker 2>can find us at a backlas underscornered on Twitter or

919
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and all of the fine other social places

920
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.880
<v Speaker 2>where no one actually talks and everybody wants to leave

921
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<v Speaker 2>Twitter to but can't. I should call it X, but

922
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>we're still there, Ben. I will ask the obvious question,

923
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>what writing will be seeing from you in the not

924
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to distant future. This poem has to make its way

925
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 2>out there. If you're going to addverse more versus. I

926
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>won't clip this and put this out as an individual thing,

927
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 2>but like I think it deserves stave actual kind of

928
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<v Speaker 2>like posterity.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what if if the Mets do it,

930
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>if they make the playoffs, I will write, I'll put

931
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot more effort in and write a full length,

932
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>multi verse poem that will go on to our website

933
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>just in time for their playoff run. So yeah, Unfortunately

934
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<v Speaker 1>I haven't written anything lately beyond my poem, but I

935
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 1>will put something together if the Mets can can keep

936
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<v Speaker 1>this street going.

937
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want the impassioned kind of reading with you,

938
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like standing in a baseball field like. Obviously we can't

939
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>quite get you to New York to read it in

940
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>city field itself, Ben, but a.

941
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Man can dream. Maybe they'll bring me out there. Look,

942
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 1>they've done it with Brimmers and Hawk Tour, so surely

943
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm next on the list.

944
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Hey, if I had any control of it, Ben, you'd

945
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>be you'd be reading out that poem for game one

946
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of the wild Card Series.

947
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 1>The World Series.

948
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>You meaning all the way if we get a boy

949
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 2>series World Series this year, just be obvious, insane? Okay.

950
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<v Speaker 2>I thoroughly hope you have enjoyed that podcast. Ladies and gentlemen,

951
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<v Speaker 2>we will speak to you soon.

952
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<v Speaker 1>Goodbye,