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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Siderday. Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday edition of our show Nasty Day. In

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the weather, we knew it was coming. Fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>it was sunny, very very windy earlier today, but really

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant otherwise, which meant a great It was a break

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<v Speaker 1>for us the media, because we were invited by Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Stoops to attend practice today and you've probably already seen

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<v Speaker 1>some video, heard some comments, read some stuff from today's practice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And what happens generally is we wait outside

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<v Speaker 1>the gate or in the lobby, then they come out

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<v Speaker 1>and speak to us after. But he let us come

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<v Speaker 1>and observe today, and we'll get a chance to do

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<v Speaker 1>it again before the end of spring, just as you will,

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<v Speaker 1>I think on the last day of spring. More to

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<v Speaker 1>come on that when we find out. But yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>got the eyeball things. You couldn't shoot what they call

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<v Speaker 1>team practice team periods, So you're not gonna see any

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<v Speaker 1>video right now of eleven on eleven stuff. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>coaches get a little paranoid. Maybe other teams can scout

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<v Speaker 1>that way, Maybe other teams can poach players through the portal. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at this guy. Let's go after him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's deep on their depth chart, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just enjoyed being out there and watching it and

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<v Speaker 1>then hearing comments from Stoops and some of the players afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I have said him many times for many many years now,

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped trying to evaluate what I see because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not an expert. You know, what I can tell is,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, somebody getting yelled at a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell if kick return guys are dropping the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell if punters are shanking the ball, so

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<v Speaker 1>can you. I can tell the quarterbacks are connecting with receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they're not, I can't tell whose fault it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the route run improperly or was the ball thrown improperly?

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<v Speaker 1>If it looks good, I can certainly recognize that, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of that today with all the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks Zac Calzada, Cutter, Bully and bo Allen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but what does that mean? I don't know. You know, now,

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the team drills, the d backs got

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<v Speaker 1>the better of the receivers, and sometimes the receivers beat

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<v Speaker 1>the d backs.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun to watch, But who was right? Who

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now you know what the coaches are looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Marks Troops always talks about, you know, he's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit torn after practices in the spring or the Blue

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<v Speaker 1>White game or whatever, and then they're not gonna there's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be one this year, but they'll have something.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach, how do you evaluate did this guy do well

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<v Speaker 1>or did this guy screw up? Every coach in America

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<v Speaker 1>deals with that. But I'm not a football professional, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I covered professionally, but you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about footwork and technique and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you who looked good. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes back to how mummy's last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Not picking on mummy, but I can tell you Mummy

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<v Speaker 1>let us come to practice all the time. Because he

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<v Speaker 1>was so overconfident, I should say, kind of smug. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He would say, you guys don't know what you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at anyway, and he wasn't wrong. You know what are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to do? Run back and talk about formations

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that. Plus Mommy used to say, we

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<v Speaker 1>all steal from each other. Everybody steals from everybody. It's inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>So he didn't care if we were practiced, unless he

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<v Speaker 1>get mad at us threw us out a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>But going into the two thousand season, they looked great.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky looked great in the spring, in the summer and

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<v Speaker 1>the pre fall workouts because all they did was work

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<v Speaker 1>on pass Kelly and they never dropped the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they in Bamadeli Li said.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was him, said we're gonna win nine

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<v Speaker 1>games or ten games or something. No, Marlon McCree said that,

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<v Speaker 1>Marlon McCree, we're gonna win ten games something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They won two.

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<v Speaker 1>Mommy got fired. You know, I felt like an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>because like, yeah, they're going to be really good. No

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<v Speaker 1>they're not, or they weren't. So I quit trying to

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<v Speaker 1>predict stuff based on what I saw in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell, like I said, what QB's look like,

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<v Speaker 1>and they all look good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Win the job, but Mark Steuops in general like what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw today.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was good to get outside. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>you all were here today and got to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the practice and got some footage. You could tell

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<v Speaker 3>there's quite a few new guys out here. As I

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<v Speaker 3>told the team, you know, there's plenty of work to

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<v Speaker 3>be done, but I believe the last time I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to you was last Saturday, and I felt good about

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<v Speaker 3>their attitude, their work ethic and and just the process

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<v Speaker 3>of getting better and putting in the work. And I

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<v Speaker 3>feel the same way. You know, hopefully you guys saw

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<v Speaker 3>that today. You know, I like this team. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work to be done, but everybody's putting their

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<v Speaker 3>head down, working and getting better, and that I can appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>So worked out well and again, glad you guys are here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he meant that. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>glad that we got a chance to look. Although it

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<v Speaker 1>tells you he's in a pretty good mood. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in a good mood at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Yeah, we asked about quarterbacks, no doubt, and

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about the group, you know, as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>not one or two people in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that as the group. You know, the group

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<v Speaker 3>is growing. Zach brings in a guy that's played six years.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's played you know, this is six year

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<v Speaker 3>college football. So anytime you get that type of experience,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we've seen snaps, we've seen him playing, and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's a matter of getting comfortable in our system,

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<v Speaker 3>putting it all together. You know, through spring there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>some things that look sloppy, that look ugly at times,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we got to just pull it all together.

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<v Speaker 3>And so both guys have made a lot of growth

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<v Speaker 3>cutters getting better as well. You could see both guys

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<v Speaker 3>have very live arms and you know, so you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good thing. There's a lot to build on.

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<v Speaker 1>The QBS kind of take turns talking to us, and

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<v Speaker 1>today it was Zach Calzada. As you know, he spent

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years at Incarnate Word in the one

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<v Speaker 1>double A level FCS started all fourteen games, led the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals to the playoffs, passed for nearly thirty eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards and thirty five touchdowns, had a big time in

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<v Speaker 1>his two seasons there. As a junior, was at Auburn,

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<v Speaker 1>but did not play in twenty twenty two, had an

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<v Speaker 1>injured shoulder, and then spent three seasons prior to that

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<v Speaker 1>at Texas A and M played in three games as

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman, didn't play appear at all as a sophomore.

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<v Speaker 1>Red shirt sophomore played in twelve games started ten of them.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point was the sec offensive player of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he moved on. So now he's at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked today about how much he liked you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had to adjust what three times now to a

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<v Speaker 1>new place, but he talked about why it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little different for him arriving in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 4>Every you know, new place is going to be different.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think coming here it was a pleasant surprise,

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<v Speaker 4>just to see the morale and the mentality of the team.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, everybody comes in and goes to work every

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<v Speaker 4>single day and it's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that a surprise?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, It's just every place is different, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you never know what to expect.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you go places and some guys work one way

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<v Speaker 4>and some guys work another. But here I just feel

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<v Speaker 4>really good about, you know, the whole group as the

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<v Speaker 4>group as a whole, just coming to work every day,

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<v Speaker 4>the willingness to get better and take the steps that

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<v Speaker 4>we need to take.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach's cal Zada will hear more from him, and we

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<v Speaker 1>hear more about him as the spring goes on, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's only got a couple more weeks. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>other comments I wanted to share was what Stoops had

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<v Speaker 1>to say about the D line, which of course is

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<v Speaker 1>now with doubt Dion Walker's got some new faces in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Stoops didn't again speak about anybody specifically, but said,

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<v Speaker 1>as a group, they're really going at it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we all know that we needed to improve

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<v Speaker 3>on the edge as well and get some pass rushers

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<v Speaker 3>in here, and so you know, across the board, I

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<v Speaker 3>just again as a group, I like them, I like

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<v Speaker 3>the depth. We need to stay healthy, as you know

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<v Speaker 3>this time last year, heck, I lost two d linemen

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<v Speaker 3>for the entire year, and so we could go he

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<v Speaker 3>him bang heads all day. And you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>get better when you lose two starters, you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>the D line. So we're staying healthy, but we're still

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<v Speaker 3>able to practice as physical as you saw today.

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<v Speaker 1>Or from Stoops and the Wildcats tomorrow. Up next though,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to hear more about Malachi Moreno. The Future

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcat played the McDonald's All American Game last night, six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue and sider

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel with you coming up in just a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach, the voice of the Wildcats, will join us

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<v Speaker 1>and we will break down, of course, this Kentucky basketball season,

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<v Speaker 1>look ahead a little bit to the Kentucky Derby. Our

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<v Speaker 1>number two as always on Wednesday, unforgettable guard Shawn Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the Wildcats and the Sweet Sixteen. Sean

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<v Speaker 1>was there this week or this past week, i should say,

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<v Speaker 1>and saw a lot of the Sweet Sixteen, and he

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<v Speaker 1>worked high school basketball all year long for glycod dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>the streaming TV service, so he had a really good

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<v Speaker 1>handle on the eleventh region and some of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>from outside the eleventh region that the local teams did play.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk to Sean about that. Our Western Bureau chief,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Moores got the next couple of weeks off. He's

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<v Speaker 1>out on the West Coast taking care of some business.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a very important guy, as you might expect.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna have from Brian Milom, who covered the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats on the road throughout the tournament, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>also back, unfortunately in time to cover the Sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>championship game. That is a real passion of his high

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<v Speaker 1>school sport. So that's what's coming up in our number

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<v Speaker 1>two and a reminder. Tomorrow night, weather permitting UK Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats scheduled to take on Mississippi in a Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>through Saturday series. Ordinarily, back through the years, teams would

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<v Speaker 1>play Thursday through Saturday, last week of the year to

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<v Speaker 1>give everybody an extra day to get ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC tournament. But once the SEC network came along and

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<v Speaker 1>they've tried to spread out the schedule a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit more to give more teams.

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<v Speaker 1>More exposure on the Mothership. Everybody's on SEC Plus on

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<v Speaker 1>the streaming channel. That's where you find Doug Flynn and

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<v Speaker 1>yours truly. This week the Wildcats play on the main

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<v Speaker 1>channel on the Mothership as we call it, tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>Now last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Malachai moreno in action in the McDonald's All American Game,

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<v Speaker 1>So Malachi, if you saw the game, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>and it came. It was a really nice play, and

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is not the kind of game where if

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<v Speaker 1>you've never seen him play and you're watching this game,

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<v Speaker 1>with his skill set. And I know I sound very biased,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got to see him play last year. I

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he needs to be more selfish to go out

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<v Speaker 1>of your teammates and nobody for most of the first

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when his team, which.

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<v Speaker 1>great Sweet sixteen. The entire team did for Great Crossing.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, if you were listening last night, or you

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round. But of course the games get

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<v Speaker 1>was hard watching it and then watching him limp off

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. And in fact, Cameron Mills and I bumped

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<v Speaker 1>and we were walking out of Rup bumped into him

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, but no way, there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>Great Crossing into adjust and rolled a couple different players

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<v Speaker 1>through the point guard spot. But it worked out. And

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<v Speaker 1>their coach told us, told me in the pregame that

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<v Speaker 1>during practice, these two other guys, Gage Richardson and Vince

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<v Speaker 1>Dawson is going to Moriad State. They take reps as

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't super smooth, and a lot of that had to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Bowling Green. Well, Bowling Green played, but when

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<v Speaker 1>Moreno and everybody played well. Frankly, Bowling Green played well.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was Great Crossing once Saint X was knocked out,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if X was better than Great Crossing.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint X beat Great Crossing earlier in the year, much earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to have seen that matchup, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they got knocked out in the first round by Jeffersontown.

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<v Speaker 1>So Great Crossing wins the state title. So how about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like Travis Perry, Malachai, Moreno's final game as a

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<v Speaker 1>Warhawk or Great Crossing High School was in Rapperina. His

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<v Speaker 1>next game as a collegian will be as a Wildcat,

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<v Speaker 1>his next home game in Rapperina in the UK Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked him about that after the game.

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<v Speaker 6>It's definitely a real moment because you know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>time in a great Crossing uniform. So it's honestly surreal.

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<v Speaker 6>And coach canna have a tough time taking this jersey

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<v Speaker 6>away from you until you know right now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it was definitely a surreal moment and it's a great

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<v Speaker 1>So Malecia Moreno, before you know it, he'll be playing

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<v Speaker 1>in a Kentucky uniform. So it was kind of fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch him win a state titled, just as it

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<v Speaker 1>now that the SEC is.

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<v Speaker 2>Down a coach right now.

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<v Speaker 1>A and M is well that as we speak, by

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<v Speaker 1>the time you hear this to me, I hired somebody

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<v Speaker 1>buzz Williams leaving Texas. A and M from Maryland clearly

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get back to the East Coast and he's

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<v Speaker 1>know if he just wasn't comfortable with A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't have been money, because I will promise you Texas

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<v Speaker 1>A and M is as much or more money to

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a good coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen years as a head coach, eleven NCA tournaments, five

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<v Speaker 1>straight at Marquette, three straight at Virginia Tech, and each

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<v Speaker 1>He is a good coach. Up next to the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cats, Tom Leach, you're on a big moon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirty wlap Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is the voice of the Wildcats. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear him, eat you and every day on this very

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<v Speaker 1>radio station on the Leech Report at eight am. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach, you just wrapped up yet another UK basketball season.

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<v Speaker 1>But no slowing down now, you're already You've been hard

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, head to get out there early in the week

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<v Speaker 7>because of the onslaught of rain that is coming, so

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<v Speaker 7>and the Today at Keenland show that airs every race day.

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<v Speaker 1>But a labor of love for mister leach as is

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<v Speaker 1>being the voice of the Wildcats. Now that you've had

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<v Speaker 1>would how did this season unfold based on what you expected?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think I would have said at the

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<v Speaker 7>they could could do that, and but that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>then when you get to that point and you you know,

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<v Speaker 7>see what the matchup is and how well you're playing

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<v Speaker 7>and how healthy you are, and unfortunately, you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>injuries were an.

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<v Speaker 5>Issue as far as their overall health.

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<v Speaker 7>But the thing I don't I'm sure I didn't see

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<v Speaker 7>coming was how good they would be at their best.

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<v Speaker 7>I think at their best, I mean the team that

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<v Speaker 7>after Crisa had they had to go out in that

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<v Speaker 5>Team that won that shootout with Florida.

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<v Speaker 7>Another team that made it to the Final Four and

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<v Speaker 7>the first day of conference play that team was better

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<v Speaker 7>than a Sweet sixteen team. So it's just a shame

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<v Speaker 7>that we didn't get to see them full strength at

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, and I'm with you on that. Prior

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<v Speaker 1>of the first weekend? But then they shouted racking up

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<v Speaker 1>those quad one wins. We were counting quad one wins

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<v Speaker 1>early in the season with an eye on that the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty amazing, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the Duke, I mean, this is a

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<v Speaker 7>was I guess somewhere probably south of the number twenty position,

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<v Speaker 7>and about it one of them, And I think that

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<v Speaker 7>anybody believing that they were, you know, maybe a serious

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<v Speaker 5>And then what was it? Let me look here. Three

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<v Speaker 7>Season they go down to the Champions Classic and beat Duke,

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<v Speaker 7>and at that point it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, oh wow, what do we have here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And at one point Kentucky made it into the

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<v Speaker 7>with the injury issues and a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 7>you know, that win over Duke opened a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>eyes about you know what Mark Pope was maybe going

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to do, not just this season, but

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<v Speaker 7>long term in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now, of course he's got to rebuild, but

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to totally restock the roster, so obviously that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge plus. But it's good to be a

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<v Speaker 1>different feel to a team next season, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>It is, But it's gonna be nice to have a

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<v Speaker 7>Brandon Garrison will be back, and I think he'll probably

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<v Speaker 7>I saw a stat I can't remember exact numbers, but

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<v Speaker 7>it was the returning minutes percentage of minutes from the

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<v Speaker 7>previous season for the teams that are in the final four,

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<v Speaker 7>and Duke obviously had a low number. I think this

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<v Speaker 7>pick level of freshmen. But the other three teams were

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<v Speaker 7>in the sixties and seventies, maybe maybe Houston was even

424
00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:44.759
<v Speaker 7>were in the low eighties in terms of percent of

425
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<v Speaker 7>returning minutes. So I think that's you know, we know

426
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<v Speaker 7>Kentucky made it to a Sweet sixteen as the only

427
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<v Speaker 7>team without any returning points from the year before that,

428
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<v Speaker 7>and in the other teams that did that, you go

429
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<v Speaker 7>ahead and zero points back either went out early or

430
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<v Speaker 7>weren't even in the tournament. So that was, you know,

431
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<v Speaker 7>significant in its own right, but just serves to underscore

432
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<v Speaker 7>you know, how difficult it is to do that from scratch.

433
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<v Speaker 7>So now they don't have to do that next.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now they've got something they can put in

435
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<v Speaker 1>for or they have spent the season putting in front

436
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<v Speaker 1>of recruits. This is what it's going to be like

437
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<v Speaker 1>if you hadn't paid attention to bring him younger Utah

438
00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Valley State, you know, people more people pay attention to Kentucky.

439
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<v Speaker 1>Look at what they accomplished in that one year, less

440
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<v Speaker 1>than one year in weeks putting a team together. How'd

441
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<v Speaker 1>you like to be a part of that? Now, so

442
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<v Speaker 1>much of that's going to come down to nil. I

443
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<v Speaker 1>understand that, But that's the case for everybody, right, I mean,

444
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<v Speaker 1>at least Mark Pope has a body of work at

445
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<v Speaker 1>UK to show to potential future Wildcats.

446
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<v Speaker 7>Right right, and he can show them not only that

447
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<v Speaker 7>it is a fund style, an NBA friendly style, and it.

448
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<v Speaker 5>Is a style that can compete at the highest level.

449
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<v Speaker 7>Again, going back to that Duke game, the Gonzaga game,

450
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<v Speaker 7>beat a really good Louisville team, beat Florida's. I mean,

451
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<v Speaker 7>they'd be two of the teams that are in the

452
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<v Speaker 7>final four. And that's significant because coming into the year

453
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<v Speaker 7>there was the stat that Mark Pope had never won

454
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<v Speaker 7>an NCAA tournament game either, by the way, had Todd

455
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<v Speaker 7>Golden at a Florida. And turns out that there's there's

456
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<v Speaker 7>a lot of guys that have never won a Derby

457
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<v Speaker 7>or a Derby prep race. But if you give them

458
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<v Speaker 7>horses that are fast enough to do that, you'll find

459
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<v Speaker 7>out that they can win Derby prep races in Derby.

460
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<v Speaker 7>So that's what he has now, that what Todd Golden

461
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<v Speaker 7>acquired at Florida. And so but it's still in saying that,

462
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's nice to validate it. And they won

463
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<v Speaker 7>two tournament games this year, and but you know, the

464
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<v Speaker 7>wins they had in the regular season. That validates not

465
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<v Speaker 7>only is the system you know, fun and NBA friendly,

466
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<v Speaker 7>but can win at a high level.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what did you think of the comments the players

468
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<v Speaker 1>made after the game about it? And I heard you

469
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<v Speaker 1>were talking about it on your show yesterday, and I

470
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<v Speaker 1>heard you talk about it with Mark Pope on his show.

471
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<v Speaker 1>The fact that they hung out till six am, it

472
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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that great.

473
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I remember, you know, the COVID year when Cal

474
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<v Speaker 7>Perry told the story about the guys that you know

475
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 7>came back and just wanted to scrimmage one last time

476
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 7>when they weren't going to get to play anymore. So

477
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<v Speaker 7>I think if you're a fan of a team, you

478
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<v Speaker 7>you like to hear and feel that those guys are

479
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<v Speaker 7>as invested in it as you are, and it's not

480
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<v Speaker 7>just a means to an end for them, that it's

481
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<v Speaker 7>really meaningful on a level beyond you know, any compensation

482
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<v Speaker 7>or anything like that. And so that was that story.

483
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<v Speaker 7>I think it's just a good example of that. I

484
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<v Speaker 7>think we, you know, had certainly heard that in comments

485
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<v Speaker 7>from the players, you know, podium after the game or

486
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<v Speaker 7>in the locker room and really even leaning up to

487
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 7>the postseason, like almon Or talking about you know what

488
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<v Speaker 7>it meant to him to get a chance to play

489
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<v Speaker 7>at a place like Kentucky that he never thought would

490
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<v Speaker 7>come his way.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, I know fans, I'm sure were

492
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<v Speaker 1>probab least some fans had to be thinking why couldn't

493
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<v Speaker 1>these players through the years have had similar emotions. Well,

494
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<v Speaker 1>that's really not fair because a kid coming in out

495
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<v Speaker 1>of high school, you know, he's not.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Going to be.

497
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:39.799
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to embrace that kind of emotion. I think, Tom,

498
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:43.559
<v Speaker 1>because these guys you were talking about bounced around.

499
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>A little bit from school to school.

500
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<v Speaker 1>In some cases like Andrew carr or they played at Drexel,

501
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 1>they played at Fairley Dickinson wishing that, you know, or

502
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<v Speaker 1>a Kobe Bread who believed he was good enough to

503
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>play at Kentucky but was told no, you're not, and

504
00:25:58.160 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 1>was playing a Dayton and then they.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Get the out. It's like a new life, a second chance,

506
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<v Speaker 2>a second.

507
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Go around, and there's there's no way anybody can appreciate

508
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it as much as they did. Does that make sense?

509
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

510
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<v Speaker 7>No, I get that. And and and it's an example

511
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 7>of the two sides of the transfer portal. On one side,

512
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 7>there's a you know at school like Morehead that had

513
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<v Speaker 7>Jenni Broom on its roster for two seasons and now

514
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<v Speaker 7>you know, may end up being the National Player of

515
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<v Speaker 7>the year Cooper fly and those the you know, the

516
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<v Speaker 7>Direxels that had Amar Williams or the Dayton that had

517
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 7>Kobe Braa, you know, on and on that those teams

518
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:42.960
<v Speaker 7>get their rosters rated UH these days, and it's I

519
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 7>know it's awful for their fans and UH and their teams,

520
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.599
<v Speaker 7>but I also think about the other side of it

521
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 7>and the the individual and just think, you know, if

522
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<v Speaker 7>I had been blessed us to have that kind of

523
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<v Speaker 7>ability as a player to play major college basketball. I

524
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 7>grew up a Kentucky fan. And you know, let's say

525
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 7>you Kentucky didn't think you're good enough to play there,

526
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 7>and you go somewhere else and show them that maybe

527
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 7>you are, And then why shouldn't you get the chance

528
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 7>if you've earned it with the way that you've played.

529
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:14.240
<v Speaker 7>Yet you know it hurts the but you know it

530
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 7>hurts the team that you played for. But you gave

531
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 7>them everything you had while you played for them, and

532
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 7>now you get this chance to you know, Kobe Bray,

533
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 7>Ansley Almon or Maury Williams to go experience what it

534
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 7>was like, what it is like to be on the

535
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 7>Kentucky basketball Nate Festina, it's a good example. Gave his

536
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 7>heart and sold a Bucknell and had great memories there

537
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 7>and they got great, you know, return on their investment

538
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 7>of a scholarship in him, and then he got a

539
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 7>chance to come and be a Wildcat for a season.

540
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately that got short by COVID, But you know, I

541
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 7>just have seen how those guys just throughly enjoyed that,

542
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.319
<v Speaker 7>and that's that's a good thing to me, even though

543
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 7>I know it hurts the mid majors.

544
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Cali Perry tried to get older with his team, and

545
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>I think just because of injuries and had some tough breaks,

546
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work out for him. But uh, that's got

547
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 1>to be the way things are now, you know the trend.

548
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And of course famously Patino has said he's not even

549
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna look at high school kids. I think that's a

550
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>bit hyperbolic, but he will depend more on the transfers.

551
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's where we are now? College basketball?

552
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

553
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 7>I think so, unless you just can you know, do

554
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 7>get access to some really special freshman that can maybe

555
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 7>compete at the you know, the championship level, which they

556
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 7>clearly have, but you know that's not something that's probably

557
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 7>going to happen on an annual basis. So yeah, I

558
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 7>think it is the older players that you know, you

559
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 7>look at a Walter Clayton junior that wasn't highly recruited

560
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>and played at IONA and now is an All America

561
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 7>type guard, a legitimate big time player and I'm not

562
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 7>sure how much of an NBA prospect I'm trial yet

563
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 7>some level of the shot, but he's not you know,

564
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 7>a lottery pick guy, but one heck of a college

565
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 7>basketball player. And I think that's you know, I thought

566
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 7>when Cal tried to get older, it didn't feel like

567
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 7>it was a maybe fully thought out planned It was

568
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 7>just collecting as the piece as you could collect, right,

569
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Whereas I thought the way Pope approached it in his

570
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 7>first season it was very strategic and you know, in

571
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 7>terms of the team that he built, and I think

572
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 7>that intensified the impact of the injuries because it was

573
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 7>so uh, you know, so much a situation where the

574
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:46.880
<v Speaker 7>whole was greater than the parts, and when they lost

575
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 7>some of those parts. It it really hurt their overall profile.

576
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 7>Whereas you know, in years to come, maybe he'll have

577
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 7>guys that have a little more of that ability to

578
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, get their own shot when the some breaks down,

579
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 7>or you know, just to have that great individual talent.

580
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 4>But.

581
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 7>Lacking that that group together fit together so well that

582
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 7>they at their best, when they were at full strength,

583
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 7>were able to compete with you know, the Duke team

584
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 7>that had all the lottery picks and the Florida team

585
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 7>that's in the Model four.

586
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<v Speaker 1>He is Tom Lee's the voice of the Cats. We'll

587
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<v Speaker 1>come back with more in just a minute on the

588
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<v Speaker 1>Big bullon sider six. Well, we'll come back. We're talking

589
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>with Tom Leach's the radio voice of the football and

590
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 1>basketball Cats. He's also been studying the horses at Keenland.

591
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>We've got the Kentucky Derby coming up. Before I get

592
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 1>to that, though, Tom Mark Stoops has kind of played

593
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 1>things pretty close to the best. Let everybody in practice

594
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 1>today but or at least the media, but didn't want

595
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk specifically about anybody, and you know, it really

596
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 1>did for quarterbacks. But it's an interesting approach he's taken.

597
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a back to the basics for stoops,

598
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>which I think is a really good signed you.

599
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 7>I agree, it feels right. I think he uh, you know,

600
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 7>maybe struggled is too strong a word to get comfortable

601
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 7>with the changes, and maybe overdid it in terms of, yeah,

602
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 7>letting guys have maybe more rope than he normally would

603
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 7>avoid having them pilfered by somebody else and that kind

604
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 7>of thing. And now I think he's it feels like

605
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 7>he's back to the approach of look, this is this

606
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 7>is our culture, this is how we do it, this

607
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 7>is what the money is.

608
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 5>None of that fits for you.

609
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 7>Wish you good luck, yeah, and this, you know, this

610
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 7>is we're you know, going to go to go to

611
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 7>battle with the guys who are all in on what

612
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 7>our plan is and that you know, if you're a

613
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 7>fan that's frustrated, then you don't want to hear words.

614
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 7>You just want to see results. And I get that,

615
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 7>and that's why I'm sure he's you know, not spending

616
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 7>a lot of time trying to you know, hype up

617
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 7>his team. Some coaches would probably still try to do that,

618
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 7>and it's just kind of whatever your nature is. But

619
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 7>I think my guess is he feels like there's nothing

620
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.440
<v Speaker 7>I can say that's going to sway anybody that already

621
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 7>has said in their opinion. But we can do things

622
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 7>on the field that can change opinion, and so let's

623
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 7>just focus all the attention on doing that. So I

624
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 7>like the it feels like he's getting back to, you know,

625
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 7>truly who he is as a coach, right and being

626
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 7>physical and big, strong offensive line and you know, defensive

627
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 7>line that can hold its own in the SEC. And

628
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 7>if you can start there, and you know, that's the

629
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 7>thing I think a lot of us didn't know if

630
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 7>you could you know, if you could do that at Kentucky,

631
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 7>maybe you'd have to be a little bit gimmicky to

632
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 7>compete in the SEC. But he has shown that you

633
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 7>can get the kind of guys in the trenches to

634
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 7>compete at this level.

635
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

636
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 7>And so I think they're definitely, you know, recommitted to

637
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 7>doing having that kind of team.

638
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's just gonna be tough for Kentucky fans.

639
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, first of all, you know how it is.

640
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 1>They want to see it. They've been spoiled. Seven wins

641
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>aren't good enough anymore. And you and I came up

642
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>either as fans or as journalists covering teams where seven

643
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>wins would be cast for a parade. But Stoops raised

644
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 1>the floor, didn't he not just the ceiling.

645
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 7>No, that's true, and and that's you know, as it

646
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 7>should be. That's that's how you get better. I remember

647
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 7>Kaywood saying one time that the Kentucky football didn't expect

648
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 7>it us and I think that really changed under rich Brooks,

649
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 7>where you know, the the expectation bar was elevated. But

650
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 7>I remember when I did the book with Richie said

651
00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.759
<v Speaker 7>that getting from the bottom to competitive was more challenging

652
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 7>at Oregon than it was at Kentucky. But getting from

653
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 7>competitive to the top was going to be much more

654
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 7>challenging at Kentucky than it was at Orgon because of

655
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 7>the SEC and so that's, uh, just what you have

656
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 7>to deal with. But you know he Stoops has had,

657
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, teams that were able to compete with the best,

658
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 7>and you know it, uh you know nowadays with the

659
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 7>with the playoffs, you know, he had a couple of

660
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 7>teams that would have been right there in the in

661
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 7>the hunt for it. So that's the thing now is

662
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 7>can you you know break there. I think for the

663
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 7>longest time it was getting to the SEC Championship game

664
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 7>was kind of the white whale for Kentucky to pursue.

665
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 7>And I think that teams were you know, Rich had

666
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 7>a couple of teams that were I think good enough

667
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 7>to do that, and and Mark had and uh they

668
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 7>you know, that's still out there, but I think now

669
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 7>it's you know, can you get good enough to get

670
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 7>in that playoff? And I think, you know, he we

671
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 7>had a couple of teams that would have been, you know,

672
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 7>right there with a shot. You know, they probably would

673
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 7>have needed each year to win one more game, but

674
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 7>that was certainly doable. And so if it was doable,

675
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 7>then it can be doable down I fully agree.

676
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, do you have a Derby

677
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>horse yet?

678
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

679
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 7>I think there's a chance we may. I may find

680
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 7>him on this weekend in the Bluegrass Steaks or the

681
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 7>Santa Anita Derby.

682
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

683
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.199
<v Speaker 7>I think it's it's kind of odd that you look

684
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 7>at the races last weekend, the prep races, the Florida

685
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 7>Derby and the Arkansas Derby both had incredibly fast early

686
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 7>paces where had you know, young horses like there was

687
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 7>a Bafford horse that had only started as a maiden

688
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 7>that you know, got into a locked into a speed duel.

689
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.320
<v Speaker 7>The same thing happened in Florida and had perfect setups

690
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 7>for closers. But that's not especially these days, doesn't seem

691
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 7>to happen in the Derby. There's a time when it

692
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 7>did when they had for the implemented the system they had.

693
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 7>Now they got the horses based on earnings. You'd get

694
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 7>some horses that had no chance of getting the distance,

695
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 7>but would just set a freaky fast pace and you'd

696
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 7>end up with some unexpected results. And that doesn't happen

697
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 7>anymore in the Derby in many years anyway.

698
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 5>And so you had.

699
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:30.280
<v Speaker 7>Some results that I don't know, maybe there you know

700
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 7>you can fully trust them, I don't know if you can,

701
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 7>just because that was an outlier of a pace scenario

702
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 7>in those two races, So that need you to kind

703
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 7>of elevate the winters with maybe just an extra grain

704
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 7>of salt.

705
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 5>And so.

706
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 7>Just because of things like that, I don't have a

707
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 7>real strong opinion on any horse yet. So that's why

708
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 7>I'm kind of thinking there's two of the major perhaps

709
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 7>historically that are coming up this weekend, that there are

710
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 7>horses in there that you know, looked like they of

711
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 7>the makings of being a Derby winner. So maybe I'll

712
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:05.920
<v Speaker 7>find my Derby horse in there. If not, it'll be

713
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 7>one of those years where I'm intentionally intently following the

714
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 7>people who whose opinions are respect about the training, trying

715
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 7>to find the now horse.

716
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was going to say the same thing.

717
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, the horse doesn't present himself or herself,

718
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, the works are even more vital, perhaps because,

719
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>like you say, the horses that really didn't belong their

720
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 1>year after year, that my brother referred to as bums

721
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, screwing things up for everybody else.

722
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you get a truer look. That's why I

723
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>think the chalk has been holding up obviously through the years.

724
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>But we've had some longer shots at the board and

725
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 1>that's always fun. As you know, Tom Leach is the

726
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>voice of the Wildcats, but you hear him on the

727
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Leach for Board each and every day on this very

728
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>radio station at eight am.

729
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir. Hope to see at the racetrack.

730
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 7>Yes, and hopefully we can get a fast track for

731
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 7>the racing at Kieland more often than not the spring,

732
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 7>but it's unlikely to happen this weekend.

733
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, that's right, Thank you, brother sounds good. Up next

734
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 1>hour number two with our unforgettable guard Sean Woods and

735
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Bryan Mylin wk YT given our Western Bureau chief Gary

736
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Moore the next couple of weeks off, but more to

737
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>come at six thirty w.

738
00:38:18.960 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 9>L at the.

739
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 10>Show doing anything anything, Anta don't have to think tat

740
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 10>don't do.

741
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. It is Wednesday.

742
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>That's when we talked to the unforgettable guard Sean Woods

743
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>as Jersey hangs in the rafters of Rupp and he

744
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>has talked with us all season long about both college

745
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.079
<v Speaker 1>and high school basketball because he was incredibly active when

746
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it came to covering high school ball for glack Cott TV.

747
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>But let us talk first coach about the end of

748
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the season. Kentucky losing to Tennessee. It was a Tennessee

749
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>team I just think was better, certainly played better, but

750
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>just given a turnaround to this Kentucky team made defensively

751
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and got to the sweet sixteen. I mean, you got

752
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 1>to give him credit for how far they got this year.

753
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 11>I know you feel that way, Oh, no doubt about it.

754
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 11>You know, dealing with the injuries, the ups and downs.

755
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:56.079
<v Speaker 11>You know, they didn't get to me until they did

756
00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 11>make a major emphasis on defense. I think Mark really

757
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 11>learned in his first year at being in the SEC

758
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 11>how how how grueling it is. And you know, even

759
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 11>though you know there was you know, some of the

760
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.280
<v Speaker 11>highest scoring teams in the country came from the ACC.

761
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 11>But those high scoring teams defended and which enabled them

762
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 11>to be high scoring teams because they were shutting people

763
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.039
<v Speaker 11>down to get in transition. Can you if you high

764
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 11>scoring team, that means that you're getting a lot of

765
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 11>transition situations, right and Tennessee and those teams like that Florida,

766
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 11>even though you're looking at you know, the points that

767
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 11>they score, they defend. And you know, Mark, I thought,

768
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.639
<v Speaker 11>you know, didn't know how tough and physical this league was.

769
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 11>So defense really wasn't a mainstay in their m of things.

770
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 11>That's just me just look from a coach looking at it,

771
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 11>because of how disoriented and thought they were on that

772
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 11>side of the ball. I think he got frustrated the

773
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 11>game when he was supposedly threw the furniture or whatever.

774
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 11>But I think it was a wake up call for

775
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 11>him too. Oh, because when you don't emphasize defense your

776
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 11>team shows, and they showed that defense really wasn't a

777
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 11>major emphasis. And then when he made it, him and

778
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 11>his staff made it an emphasis. Okay, and all they

779
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 11>need to do is just defend a little bit, and

780
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 11>they started defending real well. And and then now that

781
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 11>got them back in the groove of being able to compete,

782
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 11>you know, like I said, for instance, like I told

783
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 11>you before, I thought that Brea could defend, but he wasn't.

784
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 11>You know, you can't tell me as athletic as he is,

785
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 11>and Jackson all these guys, is that they can't defend.

786
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 11>They didn't have to. They weren't demanded to. So when

787
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 11>you think a guy's going to defend, no, they're gonna

788
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 11>want the easy way out. And then when they started

789
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 11>losing games and things like that, knowing that it was

790
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 11>because of their defense, it wasn't because of their offense,

791
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.920
<v Speaker 11>somebody had to change and it had to begin with

792
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 11>Coe Pope, and then everybody else bought in because they

793
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 11>were embarrassed. One thing I can say that the best

794
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.800
<v Speaker 11>job he did not only from a wins and lost standpoint.

795
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 11>I think the best job Mark Pope did was to

796
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 11>and and to put in these young men's souls in

797
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 11>a short amount of time what it is to be

798
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 11>a Kentucky basketball player, what it is to have that

799
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 11>name on your chest. And that was the best part

800
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 11>of his coaching deal this year, I think, which allow

801
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 11>him to do the things that they would do and

802
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.920
<v Speaker 11>have success that they had. Because if you look at

803
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 11>all these guys, they've only been here six months, eight months.

804
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 8>They don't have the same.

805
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 11>Aura and feeling about this place to say the other

806
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 11>guys did, who were really just one and done. You

807
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 11>know what I'm saying. You know, these guys were older,

808
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 11>and he instilled in their heart and in their soul

809
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 11>every single day, how it important, how important it is

810
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 11>to make a significant impact, how important it is to

811
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 11>fight with that with that name on your jersey and

812
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 11>the pride that you have. Guys, that's the reason why

813
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 11>he did that.

814
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Guys were you guys were so happy for him when

815
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>he got the job.

816
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 5>Is that?

817
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that coming?

818
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Sean?

819
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 11>I didn't know how he can do it. I've never

820
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 11>been around him as a coach, and I didn't know what.

821
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.960
<v Speaker 11>You know, I knew that he loved this place. You

822
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 11>know what I'm saying, I think to us practice and

823
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 11>no matter if he did the right wrong, whatever they

824
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 11>were doing in practice, the one thing he emphasized every

825
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 11>single day was how important it is and what the

826
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 11>mission is at this place. If you don't like it,

827
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 11>you know it's not gonna be the place for you.

828
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 11>And he struck lightning in a bottle with character kids,

829
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 11>and that's what I hope he gets strikes lighting the

830
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 11>battle again with the next group of transfers that can

831
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 11>buy in so quick because Lamont Butler bought in, Yeah,

832
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 11>always bought in. All those guys bought in. I just

833
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 11>think that Breah was the last one of the last ones,

834
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 11>that Jackson were the last ones because they didn't want

835
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 11>to buy in on the defensive bend and really dig in.

836
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 11>If Brad became a big time defensive player the last

837
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 11>six seven games.

838
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, you know, and I think so much of

839
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that too was and you can, you know, flag me

840
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.519
<v Speaker 1>off if you think I'm wrong. But these guys obviously

841
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>began their careers elsewhere you know it places and weren't

842
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>nearly as high profile. Even San Diego State was not

843
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 1>a high profile program, as you know, until Butler and

844
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>his teammates took him to the final four. Otherwise everybody,

845
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, you might have known that school because of

846
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Tony Gwynn, but otherwise you know, or Kawhi Leonard. But

847
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.079
<v Speaker 1>having played at Fairley, Dickinson, A, Drexel, at all these

848
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>other places, now they're Kentucky Wildcats.

849
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And they loved it, didn't.

850
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 11>They They loved it, and it was a place that

851
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 11>they had all dreamed of playing. Yes, coming out of

852
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 11>high school, just didn't wasn't good enough or thought of

853
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 11>as that caliber player to play at this level. And

854
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 11>when they got their opportunity, they took it and they

855
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 11>ran with it. And I've never seen I mean, I've

856
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 11>lived it, so I know how quick and how you

857
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 11>know these people can get into your soul being a player,

858
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 11>and how they love you. But these guys ain't never

859
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 11>came for that. You ain't getting that type of love

860
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 11>at Drexel. You're not getting that type of love. Fie Dickinson,

861
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 11>You're not getting this type of love. And even San

862
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 11>Diego say, you know what I'm saying, so either Wake

863
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 11>Force for that matter, Arizona, you know what I'm saying.

864
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, So you know it.

865
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.960
<v Speaker 11>Was like man, it was like that girl who just

866
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 11>kisses different. It's like that kool aid that just tastes different.

867
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

868
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 11>This is one of a kind, and once you get

869
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 11>a taste of it, you want to be a part

870
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 11>of it. And then the person who's cooking and seeding you,

871
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 11>he's full of it. There was no way and that's

872
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 11>the reason why they fought through the adversity, you know

873
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 11>what I'm saying. They did all they could do. And

874
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 11>I can commend him. Even though we lost in the

875
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 11>Sweet sixteen, he squeezed all the juice out of that tournament.

876
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 11>And guess what, it was refreshing every game, even though

877
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 11>we were hurt. Maybe that maybe two games or so

878
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 11>that we just we fought and we were a dangerous

879
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 11>team to play every single night. Every single night. We

880
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 11>were a dangerous team to play. And that's all you

881
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 11>can ask for, especially in your first year, putting a

882
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 11>team like this together. You know, And now I hope

883
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 11>you know. I'm sure they're in the office right now

884
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 11>on their phones, you know, looking at the trying and

885
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.239
<v Speaker 11>I'm sure, I mean I know about ten of them.

886
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 11>They're trying to go get or they better be trying

887
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 11>to go get because I'm watching them too. But on

888
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 11>another hand, other hand, Dick, I'm I'm more impressed and

889
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 11>looking forward to next year with Malachi Marino watching him.

890
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 11>I watched him in the state tournament, but.

891
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 5>Not only that.

892
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 11>I got a chance to watch the scrimmage at the

893
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 11>McDonald's game, and people's like been asking me, you know,

894
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.800
<v Speaker 11>what do you think about Maleochai. You know, I'm saying,

895
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 11>he doesn't.

896
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 5>Have a motor.

897
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 11>He's so quiet, he's this, he's that. You know, you

898
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 11>always want to knock the guy, especially at seven foot

899
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 11>of playing against bidgets in high school. And I told them,

900
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 11>I said, you don't become a MacDonald All American as

901
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 11>a big unless you dominated at that level other bigs

902
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 11>when you're out on that circumplane in the NBA, right,

903
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 11>you know, the nybdo Lil's and all that. And watching

904
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 11>him in that scrimmage the other day, he was the

905
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 11>best five men in the game the other day in

906
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 11>that scrimmage.

907
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that sounds good.

908
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 11>Okay, So what I'm saying is in his class, this

909
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 11>twenty twenty five class, he's one of the top twenty

910
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 11>five players in this class.

911
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 8>He's got skills not in the state in.

912
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 11>This class, and I saw it with my own eyes

913
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 11>against the top twenty five best the other day yesterday

914
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 11>as a matter of fact. Then shoot, he's catching out

915
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 11>of you dunks, he's blocking shots, he's making jump shots.

916
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 11>He's doing his thing. See when you were playing in

917
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 11>high school at the seventh foot of you're limited because

918
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 11>of you know, the style of play here. You know

919
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 11>what I'm saying. But I think that he's got more

920
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 11>in his in his bag, and it's going to be

921
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 11>even more because I know he's a good passer. I

922
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 11>know he's super skilled. The question everybody has is kN

923
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 11>he's stick it to go out there and stick it.

924
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 11>I think he's gonna be skilled enough to be able

925
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 11>to go out there and stick it because that's what

926
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 11>Mark Pope does. I mean, they shoot all day every day.

927
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 11>You know, they brush their teeth and working on they

928
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 11>follow through all at the same time. So I think

929
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 11>that's going to improve his game. That does he have

930
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 11>to get stronger? Yeah? Is he gonna have to go

931
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 11>to that gump with in the sec Yeah, but he's

932
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 11>athletic and he's seven foot in his skill, will he

933
00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 11>get beat up some Yeah? But if he a starter

934
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 11>and can lead us to an SEC championship in national championship,

935
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 11>not as a freshman being a starter. But he's gonna

936
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 11>be good enough, no doubt, a doubt.

937
00:49:58.639 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 2>He is Sean Woods.

938
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>And forget guard. We will come back and talk more

939
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>high school and college basketball in just a minute here

940
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Moon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back

941
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 1>for Tucky with Sean Woods, who has covered a lot

942
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 1>of high school basketball this year and of course has

943
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>followed the Wildcats as well. And uh, you know we

944
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 1>talked about Kentucky and Tennessee. Tennessee absolutely flopped.

945
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>The next game.

946
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it just took everything out of

947
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 1>them to be Kentucky because they weren't even competitive in

948
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the regional final?

949
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 11>No, Tennessee was that much better than Kentucky that game?

950
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 7>Okay, right, all right?

951
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 5>And then.

952
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 8>Houston, Yeah, Houston is that much.

953
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 11>Better than Tennessee. Okay, if that makes sense, it does

954
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.320
<v Speaker 11>you'd that day in Kentucky just like that, just because

955
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 11>Houston is Saint john that can shoot.

956
00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that Saint John's man.

957
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Saint John's could not could not, They.

958
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 11>Could do everything right. He had the toughest players they

959
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 11>played the toughest style, but they can you know, Billy Doavin.

960
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 11>I would always say, good offense, these good defense. Any

961
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 11>dead week, could the game be zero zero?

962
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I you know, you still got a guard. But

963
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.199
<v Speaker 1>when when the For instance, I picked Michigan State to

964
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>beat Auburn, But had I known, I really should have

965
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>done a little more research that Michigan Sate was the

966
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 1>worst three point shooting team in a Big ten.

967
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I would never have picked.

968
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Them because once they got behind, they were just they

969
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>were working their tails off on defense, and they were

970
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 1>working so hard to get good shots on offense and

971
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 1>they weren't falling. Then Auburn would come down and bang

972
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 1>knocked down a three.

973
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, you do.

974
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're exactly right.

975
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right that that surprised me as well.

976
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh, let me ask you one old question about Tennessee.

977
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 1>What do you know anything about the way Barnes teaches defense.

978
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Why was Tennessee so sound fundamentally defense and to a

979
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 1>point defensively and to a point it cost them on offense.

980
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 11>No, you got to have personnel, okay, And his style

981
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 11>of play has always been great defense. You know what

982
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm saying, up the line defense, keeping the ball, kick

983
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 11>penetration out of paint, making you take tough threes, being

984
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 11>physical with you, knocking you off your cut. That's always

985
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 11>been Rick Barnes, you know. Uh, his teams have always

986
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 11>been physical, but his teams have never been able to

987
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 11>have never been really good jump shooters. He's got, He's

988
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 11>always had great slashers and undersize physical for me and

989
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:43.360
<v Speaker 11>and things like that, and strong guards that can come downhill,

990
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 11>but not too many guys that can you know, spread

991
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 11>that spread that you know, spread you out as far

992
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 11>as shooting the basketball. So I am I'm thinking that

993
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 11>he's going to try to do something different, you know

994
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 11>what I mean. Like, for instance, Mark needs to get

995
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.880
<v Speaker 11>tougher you know, he's got to get tougher guys, more guys. Well,

996
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 11>Coach Barnes gotta get more shooters, you know. And I'm

997
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 11>sure Costatino's gonna do the same thing. He's got to

998
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:07.920
<v Speaker 11>get more shooters, I mean, because the game is so

999
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 11>predicated on scoring. And know, and you can see that

1000
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 11>the only reason why Houston is where they are because

1001
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 11>they can score. Florida can score, you know what I'm saying.

1002
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 11>All these teams are in the final flourd they can score.

1003
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta be able to go get a bucket.

1004
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 11>When you be able to get a bucket, And that's

1005
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 11>the reason why Duke is plowing people out because surprisingly

1006
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 11>Duke is super defensively. But there's not a gun to Florida.

1007
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 11>There's not a threat either you throw it in the

1008
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 11>post of the big fella or penetrate in. He's getting

1009
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 11>dunks over the top, he's blocking shots, you know. I mean,

1010
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 11>they they're so long. You know, Houston gets in you physical,

1011
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:57.639
<v Speaker 11>you know, Florida long physical. I mean in Auburn, come on,

1012
00:53:58.920 --> 00:53:59.639
<v Speaker 11>they're so long.

1013
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really are.

1014
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 11>They got the bionic Man. I mean, there's no way

1015
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 11>I thought he was coming back.

1016
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Nasty injury.

1017
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>So who do you.

1018
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 11>Think right now? I guarantee you he's sore. Taking all

1019
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 11>the time telling.

1020
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You who do you think wins this thing?

1021
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:16.119
<v Speaker 5>Now?

1022
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 11>I still think this is just me. I think it's

1023
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 11>gonna be Florida Duke.

1024
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1025
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 11>I just think that Duke can score more than than

1026
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 11>than Houston. I think it's gonna be I think it's

1027
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 11>gonna be a slug fest. But you know, when you're

1028
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 11>five men or your four men can step out and

1029
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 11>be a two guard or maybe a point guard. And

1030
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 11>these guys are shooting the lights out. I mean there's

1031
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 11>not one guy, not one league on the offensive bend

1032
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.800
<v Speaker 11>from Duke right now. I mean, everybody's gonna have I say,

1033
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 11>under So they're the most I hate to say, but

1034
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 11>they're the most impressive team going in here. Florida is

1035
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 11>a fight back team. You know, when you got that guard,

1036
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 11>they just refuse to let them lose. Oh yeah, you know,

1037
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.760
<v Speaker 11>can they get down on Duke and then come back

1038
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 11>and win a game like that? You know, can they

1039
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 11>get down against Auburn maybe because they've gone against each

1040
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 11>other the four that makes sense. Yeah, But you know,

1041
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 11>Houston's got to play almost perfect on the offensive end,

1042
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 11>and they got to score eighty points or so to

1043
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 11>beat some of these teams, which you know at least

1044
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 11>seventy five, because you know, score seventy sixty five seventy

1045
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 11>that's not gonna be.

1046
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.880
<v Speaker 1>We got minutes left with Sean Woods, who, as I said,

1047
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.760
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of high school basketball games for a

1048
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Gleckcott dot com this year. And you saw great crossing.

1049
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 1>You saw Frederick Douglass, you saw the Powerhoffs teams. Great crossing,

1050
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.559
<v Speaker 1>of course, goes on to winning. We talked earlier about

1051
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Malachi Marino. I thought it was really interesting, Sean, that

1052
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>great crossing could have dumped it into the big guy

1053
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 1>in the low post on every possession, but didn't. Yes,

1054
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, now they've got Vince Dawson, who's terrific. I

1055
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>think he'll be fine at More if he stays at

1056
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Morehead State. Uh, but.

1057
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>What did you think of of the rest of the field.

1058
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were there were some great games. You

1059
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 1>came for a lot of those, and I mean teams

1060
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 1>were jacking up threes like crazy, uh, and and running up.

1061
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, I mean, goodness gracious, I mean, everybody would

1062
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 11>make it shot to the sweet sixteen. I mean, and

1063
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 11>who would have thought that same next get upset like that? Yes,

1064
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 11>you know what I mean. And and and that's how

1065
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 11>they got upset, because they got beat on a team

1066
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 11>just was just super hot, yep, and they took it

1067
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 11>for granted, you know what I mean. So I just

1068
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 11>think and then that that just paved the way for

1069
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 11>for for our thought, a great cross And I didn't

1070
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 11>think anybody was in their class after that.

1071
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 1>You told me about saying next you in the middle

1072
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 1>of the year.

1073
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 5>I told you how dom that they were.

1074
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 11>And they were beating I mean they you know, when

1075
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 11>I get go back and think about it, though, Dick,

1076
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 11>when they beat when they beat Great Crossing pretty good,

1077
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 11>it was at saying that it was at say so,

1078
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 11>you know, who's the sale on a place like this,

1079
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.079
<v Speaker 11>and it was meant to be, you know what I mean.

1080
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 11>I'm happy for a former future cat to win the

1081
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 11>state championship on his way into wearing the Big Blue

1082
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.320
<v Speaker 11>for the second year in a row.

1083
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I love how after the game and

1084
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you you were watching on TV, but so you couldn't

1085
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>have seen this, But after he was you know, after

1086
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the the wron court celebrations and hugs and things like that,

1087
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 1>and he took off on a dead sprint for the

1088
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 1>end zone and he kept right on running and went

1089
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>up the steps into the end zone seats and was

1090
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 1>jumping up and down with his classmates. I have never

1091
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 1>seen anything. I've seen kids just climb the wall to

1092
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 1>go find mom and dad and that kind of thing.

1093
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>But I love the fact that Matho Chai.

1094
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Breno jumped up and wanted to celebrate with his classmates.

1095
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that says a lot about.

1096
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 11>That kid, Well, you know, he's a fixture in that community,

1097
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 11>you know what I mean. And you know, when you're

1098
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.440
<v Speaker 11>the tallest guy in the community and the most helded guy,

1099
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 11>the most popular guy, You're only gonna be two types

1100
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 11>of people. One that is like a butttholder, don't want

1101
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 11>to be talked, don't want to talk to nobody. You

1102
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 11>know what I'm saying. You're social introvert or you have

1103
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 11>you know, personality and indulge in your community and and

1104
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:43.239
<v Speaker 11>really like the effect of putting smiles on people's faces

1105
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.760
<v Speaker 11>and establishing friends, you know what I'm saying. And should

1106
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 11>He's had a heck of a college I mean high

1107
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 11>school career, and in a small community like Georgetown, I mean,

1108
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.119
<v Speaker 11>what better way to have to make a living and be,

1109
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 11>you know, the town hero. Right about now?

1110
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys do any postgame interviews with him?

1111
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.519
<v Speaker 11>I did want with him, I sure did so.

1112
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't get to see it, But I guarantee

1113
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>all he wanted to do was talk about his teammates, right, was.

1114
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:10.599
<v Speaker 11>No doubt about it, you know what I'm saying. You

1115
00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:13.159
<v Speaker 11>know it was never about him, right, you know? And

1116
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 11>so and and the night I interviewed him. Vince had

1117
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 11>a really good game. It was again Timya Clayton. Vint

1118
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 11>had thirty that night, so it was both of them

1119
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 11>up there, and you know, it was just he was

1120
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 11>just saying, you know, this is why it was such

1121
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:32.880
<v Speaker 11>a dangerous team, because it's not about me. You know,

1122
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:35.760
<v Speaker 11>we got other guys. And I think LJ. Holman played

1123
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 11>good that night also, so you know, it was it

1124
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 11>was they They were the best team in the state

1125
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 11>and they showed it.

1126
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Well. I'm glad you brought up LJ two because he

1127
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>sprained his ankle early in the second game in a

1128
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterfinal game and they had to play without him, so

1129
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they had to make adjustment before I let you go

1130
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>real quick, uh, I said, As I mentioned, Vince is

1131
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>going to Moried State. I hope he stays there. Maybe

1132
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>he does, maybe he doesn't. But what kind of future

1133
00:59:58.679 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 1>does he have?

1134
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:02.320
<v Speaker 11>Tell you what, he's gonna sit in and go with

1135
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 11>Johnathan Maddicks because he can stretch you out with the three,

1136
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.199
<v Speaker 11>he can get to his mid range. He's got a

1137
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 11>nice body. Johnny's gonna make him play a little more defense,

1138
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.559
<v Speaker 11>but you know, I think he's capable of doing that.

1139
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:16.719
<v Speaker 11>But I think he's gonna be a great addition for

1140
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 11>Johnson Maddocks down there more.

1141
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:19.440
<v Speaker 1>His state sounds good to me.

1142
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Sean Woods is the unforgettable guard.

1143
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>We talk to him each and every week, and next

1144
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 1>week we'll talk about the new national champion coach.

1145
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

1146
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 5>Have a good one, you two, Dick.

1147
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Brian Milin from WKYT is up next on the Big

1148
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Boon Insider six thirty w.

1149
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider.

1150
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Joining us now on our celebrity highline is a guy

1151
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:41.400
<v Speaker 1>who is a big fan of the Cats and the

1152
01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>NCAA tournament and a combination of both. Because Brian Mylin

1153
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 1>is the sports director of the CBS affiliate WKYT, my

1154
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>employer for many many years. Uh, Brian, I know it's

1155
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work when Kentucky's in the tournament, but man,

1156
01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>we we like it when when the ratings are good,

1157
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 1>don't we. I mean, yeah, that's important, yeah, but I

1158
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 1>mean it's just a happy time when the Wildcats are winning.

1159
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 8>It is and it's good obviously for the morale of

1160
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.719
<v Speaker 8>the state. Sure individually, if you're a Wildcat fan and

1161
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.800
<v Speaker 8>if you are in the business of UK athletics. It's

1162
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 8>good for all involved and obviously the further they go

1163
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 8>in a tournament, the better it is all the way around.

1164
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 8>And unfortunately it ended much sooner than people had hope.

1165
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 8>But I think in retrospect they can'ts probably win as

1166
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 8>far as they could considering everything that they had going

1167
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.199
<v Speaker 8>against them and for them. And you know, hey, when

1168
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 8>you assemble a team in six weeks or less, whatever

1169
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 8>it was Mark popend to do, I think a sweet

1170
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 8>sixteen berth and getting out of that first weekend was

1171
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 8>just huge.

1172
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>You and I talk a lot about how we're both

1173
01:01:56.519 --> 01:02:00.599
<v Speaker 1>old school guys, well I'm older or not, but you know,

1174
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.599
<v Speaker 1>we like it when when retro moments pop up, and

1175
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to me when whenever I spoke to these kids, and

1176
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I know they're young men, but to me, their kids

1177
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 1>they always will be always. And I've talked to several

1178
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:17.760
<v Speaker 1>people about this postseason, the fact that these guys, and

1179
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it was so much more evident when they

1180
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:21.559
<v Speaker 1>had to take.

1181
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Off that uniform for the last time or refused.

1182
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 1>To what it meant to them to play in this program,

1183
01:02:28.639 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 1>for this team, it was really throwback stuff, wasn't it.

1184
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 1>And not because they played it for four years. It's

1185
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.280
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't get to play here for four years,

1186
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden they got this one

1187
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:44.440
<v Speaker 1>shot at it, and they just absolutely became engrossed in it.

1188
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 8>They are an example of the old saying that some

1189
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:52.079
<v Speaker 8>of the parts out equal the whole. That's right, because

1190
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.320
<v Speaker 8>these guys were not recruited by Kentucky, right how many

1191
01:02:56.360 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 8>of them were recruited by major players in Division Basketball

1192
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:06.159
<v Speaker 8>two one and a half, I don't know. But collectively,

1193
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 8>it shows what the team can do when you bring together. Yeah,

1194
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.199
<v Speaker 8>you weren't a five star, you weren't a four star,

1195
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:18.400
<v Speaker 8>you weren't a three star probably in some people's books.

1196
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.000
<v Speaker 8>But if you take two here, you take three there,

1197
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 8>and put this here and that piece fits perfectly. Wow,

1198
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.000
<v Speaker 8>look what you can do. And I think if you

1199
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 8>can remove the word injury from this team, a team

1200
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.440
<v Speaker 8>that won twenty four games with a banged up unit

1201
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:41.000
<v Speaker 8>the last two thirds of the season, I mean you

1202
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:46.360
<v Speaker 8>can conceivably say this team could have been a thirty

1203
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:51.239
<v Speaker 8>win team had they stayed healthy. But hey, twenty four

1204
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 8>wins is a great start to what everyone hopes is

1205
01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:58.960
<v Speaker 8>the beginning of a new championship era.

1206
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.079
<v Speaker 1>In Kentucky's Yeah, and it was they were fun to

1207
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 1>watch style of play, and once the defense came around,

1208
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 1>that made it even more fun. You know. I tipped

1209
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 1>my cap to Caliperi what he got done at Arkansas,

1210
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 1>And for whatever reason, there were times that that the offense,

1211
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.199
<v Speaker 1>the Arkansas offense looked like the offense that would get

1212
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 1>bogged down at Kentucky.

1213
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 2>But there were other.

1214
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Times when I thought, well, I would like to have

1215
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:27.559
<v Speaker 1>seen that in Lexington. But the way Pulp played it,

1216
01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the offense that he designed and and

1217
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 1>borrowed from other coaches was so much fun to watch.

1218
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and it was everything about from April fourteen when

1219
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 8>rupp Arena was packed yeah for his announcement, every just

1220
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.800
<v Speaker 8>about everything from then until now has left you with

1221
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:50.079
<v Speaker 8>a smile on your face, like, Hey, this is the

1222
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 8>style we want to see. We want to see a

1223
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 8>coach who's thoroughly invested in every aspect of the team,

1224
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.679
<v Speaker 8>the program, the community, the state, eight everything. There was

1225
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 8>a time Calipari was that guy. Then when you can't

1226
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 8>live up to your first at what five of the

1227
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:13.280
<v Speaker 8>first six years, it's a pretty dark good season. And

1228
01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 8>then things happened behind closed doors whatever. But with this team,

1229
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 8>what a great way to start a new era. And

1230
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 8>the team was mature. They could talk to you, not

1231
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 8>that the other kids couldn't from years past, but to

1232
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:33.519
<v Speaker 8>have a Nate Cestina from a few years ago and

1233
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 8>read Travis and some of these guys that were so

1234
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.039
<v Speaker 8>nice to talk with. You could hold a conversation and

1235
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:42.800
<v Speaker 8>they would take you where you wanted to go with

1236
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 8>your question or your story. The same way with these guys,

1237
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 8>and they look you in the eye. They were young

1238
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:56.239
<v Speaker 8>adults and and and even acted like older adults, and

1239
01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 8>it was just nice to to be around the mature

1240
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 8>of a team that you could tell was just so

1241
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:05.480
<v Speaker 8>grateful to have this opportunity.

1242
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:06.119
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1243
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I came across a clip from the documentary that we

1244
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 1>did on the ninety eight championship team, and I don't

1245
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 1>know if you remember, but we interviewed the three captains, Cameron,

1246
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Shephard, the seniors, and Alan Edwards.

1247
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Together.

1248
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:26.480
<v Speaker 1>It was over at Cameron's house and we just pat them,

1249
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:29.039
<v Speaker 1>set him on a couch, and one thing they talked

1250
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:34.599
<v Speaker 1>about was playing for each other. And I'm listening to

1251
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 1>these comments and I'm in my mind I'm hearing them

1252
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 1>from you know, however what sixteen years ago, But it

1253
01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.840
<v Speaker 1>sounded for all the world like what these guys did

1254
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 1>this year. You know, these guys who all were thrown together.

1255
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.159
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like a made for TV movie, you know.

1256
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And they came from literally every corner of the country

1257
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 1>north southeastern West, in all walks of styles of basketball,

1258
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and through this scene together. You know, under the guidance

1259
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.519
<v Speaker 1>of Mark Pope and to his great credit, Brian, as

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<v Speaker 1>you just alluded to this, he picked the right guys,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the right players, but the right guys and

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<v Speaker 1>that made such a difference.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it did.

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<v Speaker 8>And I know that there are some people and you

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<v Speaker 8>could see it on social media boards and whatnot, saying, well,

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<v Speaker 8>he can't do this, If he can't do that, speaking

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<v Speaker 8>of recruiting the major player folks, what do you I mean, Dolly,

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<v Speaker 8>look what he did. If cal didn't have a magic

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<v Speaker 8>wand Mark Pope probably borrowed it for a while to

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<v Speaker 8>turn this team into something the entire state could be

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<v Speaker 8>proud of. If Rick Bakino can take a team and

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<v Speaker 8>go fourteen and fourteen in his first year, you would

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<v Speaker 8>have sworn that team won twenty four games that year,

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<v Speaker 8>by the way they played and the way they hustled.

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<v Speaker 8>The same thing can be said to this team to

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01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:06.239
<v Speaker 8>a different degree. And the fact that they nobody saw

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01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:10.119
<v Speaker 8>them winning anything except oh yeah, they're gonna maybe go

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<v Speaker 8>five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 8>Who knows in the SEC with sixteen teams now playing

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<v Speaker 8>Duke and playing all of the Gonzaga, they're not winning

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01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 8>these games. Well, lo and behold look what happens. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know, some of.

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<v Speaker 5>These people who say that Pope.

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<v Speaker 8>Won't be able to do this and won't be able

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<v Speaker 8>to do that, be quiet and sit down. It's one

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<v Speaker 8>thing to be loud and wrong privately. It's another thing

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<v Speaker 8>to be loud and wrong publicly. And anybody that does

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<v Speaker 8>is not on the Mark Pope train right now. They

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<v Speaker 8>need to have their their oatmeal above the eyebrows right now,

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<v Speaker 8>because this guy is putting together something we have not

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<v Speaker 8>seen here before. Yeah, maybe the collective is not five

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01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:02.760
<v Speaker 8>star guys. That's okay. As long as you win at

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<v Speaker 8>the end of the day, that's what matters. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>what he did in this first year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And here's the other thing I kept reminding myself,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a first year coach. People kind of spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about him like he was feeling his way or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He was successful at Utah Valley State. It's successful to

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01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 2>bring him young.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this wasn't the first time he's made decisions

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01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:26.279
<v Speaker 1>under fire in a game, and it wasn't the first

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01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.079
<v Speaker 1>time he went back to the drawing board, which he

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01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 1>did halfway through the year after they were.

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01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Embarrassed by old miss Me.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I gotta or I saw something

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01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on social media after that game. Gotta get rid of him. Now,

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01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 1>get rid of Pope. Now just cut your losses. Get

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01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 1>somebody else in there. Now, I'm like, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's reset. Brian Miley was my guest from WKYT and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more on the other side of the break

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with

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<v Speaker 1>WDKYT sports director Brian milein of course talking about the

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01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:58.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball cats. And meanwhile, Kenny Brooks is having a ball,

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01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and or at least Kentucky fan we're having a ball

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01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 1>watching the UK women and one of the most disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking losses.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you've got everything going for you, you got

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01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:11.800
<v Speaker 1>George Ambore going up for a three footer and it

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01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 1>just rolls off. Talk about a made for TV movie.

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01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You know that one didn't end properly. But it's amazing

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01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.319
<v Speaker 1>that these were kind of like living dual lives, these

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<v Speaker 1>two programs.

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<v Speaker 8>At the same time. Yeah, I mean, it was fascinating

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01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 8>to see two coaches, not brand new but brand new

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01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:41.000
<v Speaker 8>to Kentucky from a coaching perspective, come in and revamp

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01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:45.039
<v Speaker 8>everything from head to toe pretty much and be able

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01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 8>to put together the seasons they did stunning really in

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01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:54.279
<v Speaker 8>a lot of ways. I was in Greensboro when Kentucky

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01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:58.680
<v Speaker 8>lost to Oklahoma. That was a surprise a little bit,

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01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.720
<v Speaker 8>you know, And both in that loss and in the

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01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 8>UK men's loss to Tennessee just didn't fire.

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<v Speaker 11>Things just didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Drop and it was just tough.

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<v Speaker 8>But at the end of the day, looking back, look

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01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 8>how far everything can come forward, just when you sit

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01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 8>down and say, Mitch Barnhart, Okay, who do we get?

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01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.479
<v Speaker 8>We go get this person, We get this person. And

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<v Speaker 8>Mark Pope not a Hall of Fame coach, not yet anyway,

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01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 8>and everybody was if you you know, you were there,

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01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.159
<v Speaker 8>you know everybody's talking about Billy Donovan is going to

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01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:37.560
<v Speaker 8>be here, and and Bryce is coming, and all these guys,

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01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.760
<v Speaker 8>and then you get and then on the women's side,

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01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:44.680
<v Speaker 8>you get the quiet Kimny Brooks, the man who just

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01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 8>stoically goes about his job on the sideline and brings

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01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.279
<v Speaker 8>with him some of the most exciting players this program

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01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 8>has not had in a long time. Collectively. There's been

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01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 8>individual players like a Ryan Howard obviously, but collectively what

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01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.159
<v Speaker 8>he was able to do in such a short amount

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01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:11.439
<v Speaker 8>of time is just mesmerizing. Because this is a program,

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01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 8>the women's program, they have had pockets of success but

1353
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:20.840
<v Speaker 8>have not been able to sustain it over a decade

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01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:25.119
<v Speaker 8>or more in a row. Terry Hall had that great

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01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.279
<v Speaker 8>team in the early eighties and then things got a

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01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.439
<v Speaker 8>little lean for a while for a long time, and

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01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:35.439
<v Speaker 8>then Mickey Dmoss reignites the flame and Matthew Mitchell carries it.

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01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 8>But then even that flame starts to die down a

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01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:42.880
<v Speaker 8>little bit, and then you have Kenny Who's boom coach

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01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 8>Brooks a big explosion. Now the question can he keep

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01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.439
<v Speaker 8>doing it at Kentucky and the SEC when you've got

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01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:54.119
<v Speaker 8>the likes of South Carolina at LSU and Tennessee is

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01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:57.600
<v Speaker 8>probably waiting for a rebirth to come back to what

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01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 8>they used to be if they can. It was just

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<v Speaker 8>a fascinating season.

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<v Speaker 11>And one of the books.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, well before I Let You Go, you covered the

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet sixteen great crossing wins it I love working at

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01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 1>where I was privileged enough to work on the radio

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01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:19.479
<v Speaker 1>network this year. But precious few blowouts and just some

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<v Speaker 1>really exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Games, people just throwing in three pointers.

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01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Left and right, and of course you had the star

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01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 1>power of Malachi Moreno. I thought it was a fascinating year.

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<v Speaker 8>It was, and the best team won, and that's the way.

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<v Speaker 5>It ought to be.

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<v Speaker 8>The best team did win. But when you look back

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01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 8>through the tournament, you saw the teams that were supposed

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01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:46.880
<v Speaker 8>to be there, the majority of the sixteen teams that

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01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.239
<v Speaker 8>were there, the majority were pre season number one in

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01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 8>their region, and that doesn't happen all the time. But

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01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 8>you saw the upset of Saint X in the first round,

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01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 8>which got everybody. You know, Montgomery County making just their

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01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 8>third appearance in school history and the last two times

1385
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 8>they've gone County this when they've gone to the semi final.

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01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 8>Happy Oscar took them in twenty thirteen, and you saw

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01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 8>the embattled coach from Cooper that is no one really,

1388
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:23.479
<v Speaker 8>I don't think unless you're in the mix of it

1389
01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 8>understands just what the heck is going on with that.

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01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 8>And then you see all the three pointers. You see

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01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:32.560
<v Speaker 8>stars that could have had a greater impact on this

1392
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.640
<v Speaker 8>state had they made it to the Sweet sixteen more often,

1393
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:40.119
<v Speaker 8>such as Austin Sperry had Breadthett County who put on

1394
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:44.319
<v Speaker 8>a show. And you see the butting. You see the

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01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:50.520
<v Speaker 8>budding stars like Rhys Davidson at North Laurel. My gosh,

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<v Speaker 8>and can they make it back to do to be

1397
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 8>a repeat and to make a name for themselves again,

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<v Speaker 8>There's so many great storylines, but with great crossing, being

1399
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:03.600
<v Speaker 8>able to win a title with homegrown kids in six

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01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:04.840
<v Speaker 8>years is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because the

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01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 1>coach mentioned that. Steve Page mentioned that in the post

1403
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and postgame interviews. I think one kid had moved in

1404
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:18.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe the point right L. J. Holman h when he

1405
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:21.720
<v Speaker 1>entered high school. But otherwise all those kids played at

1406
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 1>middle school. And there's another great story south Oldham straight

1407
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 1>out of Crestwood. They're warm up shirts. Those kids created

1408
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 1>those or came up with the idea in middle school

1409
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and they got together and said, someday we're going to

1410
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:36.720
<v Speaker 1>wear these in upp arena. I know you love stuff

1411
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:37.119
<v Speaker 1>like that.

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01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:42.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And because there it adds to the stories that

1413
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 8>all of us hear people say, you know what, Dick,

1414
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 8>we've got a great seventh grade group coming up. If

1415
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:53.520
<v Speaker 8>these guys stayed together together, make go run, if you know,

1416
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.600
<v Speaker 8>and usually those teams that we hear that from are

1417
01:15:56.680 --> 01:16:02.119
<v Speaker 8>from rural area. That's because maybe just make like Montgomery County,

1418
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:06.800
<v Speaker 8>they've only been three times. They've been to the championship

1419
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 8>game in the tenth region I think eleven times, but

1420
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 8>they've only made it three. And and then when you

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01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 8>see some of these schools that last name ends in

1422
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.640
<v Speaker 8>county or in Ashland, who has made seven trips in

1423
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 8>a row, you know that's where you hear we've got

1424
01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:25.399
<v Speaker 8>a great young group and if we can keep them together,

1425
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:27.760
<v Speaker 8>we can get to Reparena and make some noise.

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01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.600
<v Speaker 7>And now now the now, the goal is.

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01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.520
<v Speaker 8>Just keeping them together. If we know this world has

1428
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:35.600
<v Speaker 8>turned into a transfer portal all the way around.

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01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>It has even on a high school level. That's a

1430
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 1>that's a topic for another evening. But or prep schools

1431
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.760
<v Speaker 1>or things like that. But uh, but yeah, and you

1432
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:45.920
<v Speaker 1>worked in eastern Kentucky for so long. You know what

1433
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like, what it's like for a community to have

1434
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 1>a team come together like that. And and we saw

1435
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the crowds show up in Reperena, so and some did,

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01:16:57.319 --> 01:16:57.920
<v Speaker 1>some didn't.

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01:16:57.920 --> 01:16:59.199
<v Speaker 2>But then on the other hand.

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01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, when the whole town turns out, it's

1439
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.119
<v Speaker 1>just fantastic. And that's that's been the way it has

1440
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:10.520
<v Speaker 1>been for years. Brian Mylin, sports director WKYT, Thank you

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01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 1>so much, sir, And I guess now we'll just sit

1442
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:16.319
<v Speaker 1>back and wait and see who wins this championship and

1443
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you can see it on WKYT. The final four.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's right. First time in what almost twenty years,

1445
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 8>we've had all four number one seeds. Yeah, let's play

1446
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 8>it out and see how it plays out.

1447
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Was that how your bracket played out? Did you have

1448
01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:30.119
<v Speaker 1>all the child Oh.

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01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:33.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, especially last night when I put in that final team. Yeah,

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01:17:33.640 --> 01:17:35.000
<v Speaker 8>it's it's the way it worked out.

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01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Perfectly, all right, coach, have a good one, all right,

1452
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:42.079
<v Speaker 1>thanks to you. I always talk about some of the

1453
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.960
<v Speaker 1>TV guys who are road warriors. Obviously, the newspaper people

1454
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>as well. But you know, I was a TV guy

1455
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:50.600
<v Speaker 1>for a long time and Brian's one of them.

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01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:50.840
<v Speaker 8>Now.

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01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:51.720
<v Speaker 2>He travels.

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01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:54.159
<v Speaker 1>He went to all the games and as often as

1459
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:57.239
<v Speaker 1>not drives instead of flies. And I look them as

1460
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 1>road warriors because they're hauling that equipment. And trust me,

1461
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it ain't easy. On one trip, we actually flew the

1462
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.199
<v Speaker 1>airline broke our tripod, which isn't easy to do either,

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01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so and there's no accountability, trust me on that. Anyhow,

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01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate Brian for taking the time. Tomorrow night,

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01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.439
<v Speaker 1>it's Kentucky Baseball. The Wildcats take on Ole Miss in

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01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a Thursday through a Saturday series and the SEC network

1467
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:25.279
<v Speaker 1>will have it. Doug Flynn and I will have it

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<v Speaker 1>on SEC Plus on Friday and Saturday. But because it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the mother Ship Tomorrow night, the game begins at seven,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning Darren's pregame is at six forty five, so I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a shorter Big Moon in Cider for you. But

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<v Speaker 2>after that, weather permitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's going to be the Wildcats and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss Rebels is Kentucky goes back to work, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to protect its home turf after a road series win

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<v Speaker 1>down at A and m so we'll be with you

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<v Speaker 1>until six forty five and is Darren with pregame Cats

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<v Speaker 1>and the Ole Miss Rebels.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, that's it. Good night from the garage and Lexington.

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<v Speaker 11>Man, you are one pathetic loser.

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<v Speaker 10>Then anything to do anything then letty that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't then don't, don
