Speaker 1: He listen to Commander Who Goes podcast episode five thirty eight.
I'm brand I'm here Thrie, and we're gonna do the
ark've evolution by talking about Mono Red. Now are.
Speaker 2: I How does he sound if you talk normal?
Speaker 1: Do I sound okay? When I speak readily?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: He gives me the thumbs up and everything. And you
know what gives me the thumbs up? That means it's
time for me to say, Hey, Ryan, we're back for
yet another whirlwind adventure. How you do?
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What good?
Speaker 1: Well? You know why I'm so insulted. If you were
watching on YouTube, which you should.
Speaker 2: Be, I had to swallow really fast. Do not google?
Speaker 1: I shit you might though. So in answer to your question,
a whole bunch is going down. We're gonna continue the
arc of evolution by talking about my very favorite color
and all of magic, Mono Red. We're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's how it's supposed to work.
But that's okay.
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Speaker 1: I don't text it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. Now, everything's fine. Everything's good. We are
on track to talk about Mono Red now. We are
on a bit of a time crunch, so we're going
to oh yeah, for go some of our early things.
We're gonna thank the Patreon supporters over at patreon dot com.
Slash CCEO podcast because they help us out lots. We're
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Speaker 2: You're doing it.
Speaker 1: What else we're gonna say? Oh, if you want to
know the full explanation of what we're doing and why
we're doing it, we explain it very very well.
Speaker 2: In the Mono White episode of and the Mono Blue
and the Mono Black.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we're just gonna absolutely skip over what we're doing.
But here's the very very very very very bare bones.
We're gonna take Magic cards the top ten commanders in
Mono Red from Magic twenty nineteen were to compare them
to now and see what has changed, and also to
just kind of discover amongst ourselves whether or not Universes
Beyond really has powercrept regular magic out of the game.
Speaker 2: Very good. I got one more thing that I gotta say. Okay,
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That's the first thing second thing, you'll if you're watching
on YouTube, which it should be, notice that I'm drinking
a different beer today.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sharing with you, though it is great
to share with your friends. This is Nicomas craft Ales
Long Lake Lager. And you might say, oh, Ryan and Brando,
I thought you thought you guys in the Pilot Bones
boys are all buddies. Yeah we are. We are, well,
pile of bones and Nicomas also buddies. Oh so if
you're wanting to drink Long Lake Lagger and you're like, hey,
I want to do what Ryand and Brando say, well,
rest a shirt.
Speaker 1: It's okay, probably fine, drink it. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: H It's great for sharing with your friends, though, I
wouldn't know about that. Okay, So I'm trading you not
a beer, for doing your favorite color aka Red.
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, what would we be doing if we
weren't doing Red this week? Both drinking beer just together
in front of the camera.
Speaker 2: Well, we've done that before.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would probably be a better episode.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well we could not do Red, good by it?
How about we just do Red?
Speaker 1: Fine?
Speaker 2: First card? No, no, not first card.
Speaker 1: See it's on fire like Red, which is pretty good
that I'm getting better with this.
Speaker 2: You forgot to capitalize the e son of a bitch,
what's our first card? This is from twenty nineteen. As
for our friends at d h REC DAK.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're they're glorious engineers have helped me out and
kind of gone back through what they could find some
of their backlog and sent me the approximate top ten
most popular monorad commander. So this is number ten, and
it's a pretty good one that we may or may
not be very familiar with around here.
Speaker 3: It's not We're in the Wary woo Ah made famous
by your boy, popularized by your boy, the favorite deck
of your boy.
Speaker 2: That's me all three times. Yeah, I suppose. Okay, So uh,
why don't you Why don't you give him a read
without actually reading them? What like, tell us what he
does without reading them verbatim?
Speaker 1: Well, for I don't know if I could do it verbatim.
He's a two to one human warrior for Red. Whenever
a player casts a spell or attacks with a creature,
nor in the Exile, nor in the Wary, remove nor
in the Worry from the game. Because he's an old card,
return him to play at the beginning of the end
step pretty close.
Speaker 2: Return it to the battlefield under its owner's control at
end of turn. Very important. I have a bad feeling
about this. It is a flavor text. So okay, that's
one man of Commander's surprisingly always powerful. Yes, because you
can get on like you can set your trajectory fucking
now and you just go. You know what you're doing,
because it's play your commander turn one or or use
your commander as a value engine for one manna when
you ought to. Yes, which is two things I've seen
you do. Correct. Sometimes it's nourin probably eighty to ninety
percent of the time it's nooran, unless it's like sol
ring into Signet or some other one man of thing
like another stupid like a mass hysteria or some shit
right like oh man, oh mass hysteria won me so
many votes at the first ever come Ander Championship in
Vegas twenty eighteen. Oh man, that card focks. Wonder if
we're gonna see that in this list. No, it's not
legendary nor a creature.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, yes, but nor in the wary uh
if you actually have a video of it on the
Brando does stuff YouTube. Yeah, if you want to watch
that cause and believe it or not, that deck that
video was like six years old and it still holds up.
The core of this deck has not changed, only been
added to nor in the wary as a deck has
only become better than. What I like so much about
him is he can do all sorts of stuff. What
I've read goblins, coin, flip, dice, roll stacks burn.
Speaker 2: What iteration goblins? You said that already? Okay, so he
did it twice then? Yeah, what iteration is it currently in?
What would you say the de facto No, I'm gonna
I'm gonna adjust question my leads. Okay, what is the
de facto best or uh actual list that people should run?
What is that list?
Speaker 1: The chaos control list, the one that I'm running now.
I don't not have to say that mine is the best,
even though it is. It's a control deck that plays
all of the things that just blow the game apart,
possibility storm and blood moon and confusion in the ranks
and all these things that just fuck the whole game
up for everybody. It knocks everybody off of their game
plan except you. Is your deck is built to play
around all of that because you got all.
Speaker 2: Of the ETB deal damage things. So whenever anybody does anything,
Norm will come in and out and when he goes,
when he comes back in, he'll do two from perferos,
two from impact tremors, two from this, two from this,
two for this. So it's like normal et BE at
the end of every single person's turn, everybody take four,
everybody takes six, everybody takes six.
Speaker 1: Everybody looks like people look at it and they think, okay, well, what.
Speaker 2: Are to one damage to turn?
Speaker 1: What's that going to do? It adds up very very quickly,
and as of now, there's also ones. Whenever legendary creature
comes into you like draw card, there, make a treasure,
there's due damage. So, like I have had setups with Norm,
recomes into play at the end of each and every
turn where anybody does anything, deals four damage to the table,
draws me a card and makes me a treasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And that's just for me sitting there like this is
a there's it's deceptively powerful.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, here's the thing. I don't think that
we haven't done. I don't think that we've done yet.
And I don't want to get into it too much.
I want it to be a yes or no type
thing because we're on a time crunch. And maybe maybe
producer Noah can move the light unbral because I can't
actually shoot a clock as if I don't have a
phone in front of it, but maybe I can say, okay,
number ten of the Then theoretically we could make a
point or a case for it being the least powerful
commander out of the twenty we're gonna see. And I
don't think that that's true, but you could make an
argument for that if power level equals how fun they
are or popularity. And this one was popular years ago,
where when when things weren't as powerful as they are now. Sure, right,
let's see if things are more or less powerful than norn.
This is our litmus test. Okay, we haven't done that
for the other colors, but I mean, this isn't science,
This is approximate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can try new things. Yeah, I are afraid
the nation.
Speaker 2: I'll try anything once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try anything ninety nine times. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: What if you hate it the first time?
Speaker 2: Let us shame on, shame on me. I guess it
was shame on.
Speaker 1: Man, it fooled me ninety nine times. I don't know, man,
that might still be your problem because.
Speaker 2: You're let's let's look at number nine. Speaking of nine,
or as the Germans say, nine God go to be
the b Lord. Yes, oh, man, I like this guy.
I've played the hell out of this guy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I've played against God lots of times in Vegas
at like the kind of the upper echelon of power.
And he's I think he's still in CDH. Toby's gonna
jump all over me if he's not. But he was
a c EDH staple that you needed to know that
you could beat for a good long while. Yes, and
I think that's why he's here. And he's the kind
of guy that only ever gets better as more things
that enable his combo come into existence. So he's a
three to three for six, which right up the bat
sounds terrible. But you play all the fast manna with him, yes, yep.
And when he enters the battlefield, search your library for
an equipment card, put onto play and then shuffle and
whenever he attacks for the first time, each turn, untap
him and all other samurai you control, and then you
get an additional combat phase and.
Speaker 1: You find Helm of the Host and you copy him
every combat and you attack forever.
Speaker 2: Yes, the new one gets comes onto the battlefield like
the new Godo from Helm of the Host attacking and
you get an extra combat, extra combat, extra combat.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's a little bit of a comb deck
that has a bunch of fast manna setup and usually
when I've seen it, I'm not going to say it's stacks,
but its disruption is the types of things that you
would see in a stax Light deck like blood Moon,
like you had mentioned with Norin where you're shutting off
basic or non basics because you're Mono Red. You're playing
artifact disruption and destruction because you're trying to put people
off of their game until you can execute your game.
It's a linear and proactive combo strategy, I think. But
for that reason, it lets you be in the driver's seat,
which I think we're going to see lots in Mono Red.
Is you being the driver, which I appreciate. I mean,
I like, I like being the driver power top if
you will sure. I also like being the other end
of the spectrum, like the control yeah in the trunk,
the control player, the draw goal player if you will,
right sure. When we were talking about bruvac in Blue
a couple of weeks ago, god is literally draw goal.
That's your turn, and you do everything on everybody else's turn,
and hope to God you don't run on a manna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yeah, we'll play against my tour brand deck.
We're going to talk about that later.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tour brand on the list. Maybe maybe maybe
we'll have to see this is number nine, what's number eight?
Speaker 1: Now? I think that I think that this guy has
been massively outclassed.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I do like, this is a cool card's six six
for my favorite man.
Speaker 2: He's your guy six.
Speaker 1: Whenever he attacks X on the top card of each
player's library, you can cast them for free. It's just
it's he's been out he's been outdone. Dang it, he
just has been he. I think that directly, if you
were to look at decks, you take this Atale, replace
it with new Atalle, and then just add green into
the deck and make it so you can play him
a bazillion times and away you go.
Speaker 2: Dang right, like new Tally takes something from everybody when
he eats you.
Speaker 1: Bees right, Yes, but that you mill till you actually
get something, so there's no getting land, there's no missing,
and then you play all the red things that put
like a token copy of a creature into play, and
you just keep doing it. It's a it's a CDH thing.
It's very, very powerful, and I think that it tally
just has been outclassed. I even cut him from Norn
when Slash was punted, and I have the cool Cereal
box one and everything.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, this one's the date stamped one. We've been
keeping track of that correct outclassed, but he still is
an elder dinosaur. You can play elder dinosaur highlander.
Speaker 1: Sure can. He still he'll still slap the shit out
of you. Give it a chance.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you could use him as a dinosaur commander
if you want to play Modo Red, which you probably could.
You could play him as an attack tger's commander or
a multi combat uh multiple combat step commander. He's not
the like de facto one.
Speaker 1: But you could.
Speaker 2: You could do it. Yeah, lots of.
Speaker 1: He still finds the he still finds a home in
the ninety nine. He's like Sun Titan. He's red Sun Titan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I think he's been relegated to
the ninety nine. I would be very surprised to see
him in the now top ten. I agree, number seven,
number seven, we're all six six maybe six.
Speaker 1: There's norn and there was.
Speaker 2: Let's figure it out ran ten nine eight seven seven.
You're right feldon of the third path. This guy, man,
I have lost a lot of games to this guy
when when FuG Off is playing, because this guy is
Red's version of the Fiddley artifact deck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots and lots.
Speaker 2: Of value with ETB and ETB and to the battlefield
and to the bin sacrifice spit swapping or like treasure
swapping and goblin welding. Yeah, lots of value. So this
is a human artifice or good creature type there and
human two three for three, Uh no, what color we're doing?
Red two tap put a token onto the battlefield. That's
copy of target creature card in your graveyard, except it's
an artifact. In addition to each other types, it gains
haste sack at the beginning of next end step.
Speaker 1: Works real good with Tolley.
Speaker 2: Or worm coil engine or worm.
Speaker 1: Coil engine or anything that leaves tokens behind when it dies. Yes,
Siege Gang commander Sling not Sling Gang lieutenant, but stiege
gang commander would be another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it spine of ish Zah when it ETBs creature,
Oh damn it. Yeah, put a token on the battlefield
cover of target creature card in your grave.
Speaker 1: Well it's the it's the new one that does that,
that leaves power stones behind it kills a permanent Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Know that Jeff would freaking do something with spine of
Isha where he'd make it into a creature or something
and get it back and scum back. Oh yeah, it
was wild frick I think that, okay, more or less
powerful than Norn. We didn't. We forgot to do that less, less,
more fiddly.
Speaker 1: He's more dirtily and more fiddly and is entirely reliant
on things being in your bin. Red famously not amazingly
good at that sort of thing. I mean, yes, you
can discard stuff to all the draw but like you
have to have it in the first place to discard it.
And you know what, it's not a milliar self in
Mono Red.
Speaker 2: A Talian whole challenge accepted Atalian Godo. I think higher
like higher ceiling, but go Feldon and noorn go a
little bit wider and can generate value over the course
of the game. Right, I'm not looking for value in
my GODO deck. No, I'm looking to drive it through
your head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're looking for God to come into play and
get equipped with a helmet and attack. That's what you're
looking for to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy like like Norin, I'm looking to gain
value over time with entering, sacrificing, copying tokens, et cetera,
copying etb abilities, with other artifacts like panharmonicon, stuff like that. Yes,
do we expect to see this guy in the top
ten of now?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? No, No way. Too slow, too slow, two
three for too slow.
Speaker 2: You think the format sped up?
Speaker 1: You know, I think it did that.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a maybe that's an arc of evolution kind
of bonus episode. Up. I feel like that would be
a lot of subjective evidence, and the guys at d
h REC and Command Zone would be like, you need data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those guys can fuck.
Speaker 2: Off except for when we see them in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get off afraid.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I still call Matt Matt Morgan, but slab good zada.
Speaker 1: Remember, is that the whole subject of the very first
episode of Comerical Podcast Zadahedron Grinder.
Speaker 2: Man Zadahedron Grinder Goblin ally three three for red three.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery that targets only Zada,
copy it for each creature you controlled that that could target. Yeah,
copy it, mind you. That spell is called radiate, that
that you copy for each thing you could target. Not
to be confused with the ability radiate.
Speaker 1: Right, radiance yeah, radio, yeah, radiance much. I mean, it's
kind of the same, but also shittier.
Speaker 2: Zada could be. And I'm willing to put my stamp
on this because I've played the hell out of this deck.
This could be the funnest and most infuriating deck I've
ever played, and my perception for my opponents is that
Zata could be the funnest and most infuriating deck they've
ever played against.
Speaker 1: It's very polarized. It's because I think it's a very
non deterministic way of playing magic, like a lot of combos.
It's like BAA, I've won, whereas this one could fall
so spectacularly on its face. You have to play it
out every.
Speaker 2: Time, and you know what you have to it depends
on the social situation in the game, what turn it is,
who's playing it, who you're playing against, Do they know
that that could happen, and are they waiting to happen?
Are they okay with getting Combo killed? You're okay with
getting Combo killed? When you know I'm doing the Zata
thing and it's a bunch of bros sitting around just
drinking a beer or ten, and and you say, okay, boys,
here comes and you cast like a plus one plus
zero draw card on Zata. You've got ten creatures, so
you all your guys get plus one plus zho and
you draw ten cards. And then you go, ah shit,
play my zero drop, play a cobalt. Now I got
two guys, cast a my guy gains haste draw card,
so all my guys have haste. I'm gonna draw twelve.
So now I've drawn like twenty two cards. Ah fuck,
still don't have it, guys. I'll play my land for turn.
I'll play a mox tap two piratic ritual. I'll get
five man, I'll cast a cantrip. I'll draw twelve again.
So now I've drawn thirty four cards. Oh here's my
wheel of fortune. Discard thirty cards, draw seven right, Oh fuck,
here's memory jar do it again, right, And you're trying
to dig dig dig, dig dig until you can find
something like a past in flames so you can go
past in flames. Everything in my graveyard has flashback. Cast
all my rituals out of my graveyard or my frickin'
underwear breach, and then get all your rituals again, get
all your car draws again until you find your combo piece.
Speaker 1: And you still have twelve and this is true. Two
ones with twelve, two ones with hasty yeah, right after
all of the things you just said, that's what you have, right,
And I think that's why it's like, fuck, the odds
of that happening are very low, but it can happen.
I've seen it happen. I visually watched that very thing
happen to Ryan and my kitchen table, and.
Speaker 2: It's fucking hilarious, Like it's legitimately funny to me when
it happens to me, and because I know it's like guys,
I win, but I probably don't, or I probably don't win,
but I might. Oh, yes, we have to go through
the thing here.
Speaker 1: I've seen you sitting there where you find and you've
got like this fucking mit. Oh yeah, and you finally
have the card that you need and you're looking on,
I don't have enough man I left to play it.
Speaker 2: I've seen that, and it's very Usually somebody will take
a graye dice like a Grade D twenty and a
red D twenty and tick the number up or down
to help me to know how much MANA have in
my manipool. Because when you're copying rituals a bunch of
times using said mana to like ritual mana to pay
for future rituals, you go down one and then up two,
down one and up five, right, so people will tick
and tick and tick and tick, and sometimes you run
out going all in, or you freaking treeson is over,
pay three life, get a red mana down till you're
at one, and it's like fuck, oh, guys, I have
to dig until I hit like a Mox diamond to
get to one red mana, and if I do, it's over.
And then you miss and it's like, ah, fuck god,
I got a discard to hand size. You're at one.
You sacrificed all your guys to make mana. Oh it's
the most hilarious and infuriating deck there ever was, and
I don't expect to see it on the top ten now,
but I hope I've sold you on this deck because
it's wild.
Speaker 1: We both did have it. It's a thing, so it
is good. It's fun for everybody.
Speaker 2: It's fun for all ages. You got twenty guys, do
you hit the Frickin' titan strength plus four plus one
scry one, which is not scry ten it's skry one
ten times.
Speaker 1: Classic tragedy next tragedy. Neb. This is another old school combo.
This is your what does this going for it?
Speaker 2: With the enchantment rate a fire?
Speaker 1: No, it's uh, take an extra combat step for five.
It's an enchantment for red two in red red three
to lentless assault. Yes, that's what neheb. The eternal is
relentless assault.
Speaker 2: The deck one card combo they call that. Yes. So
this is at the beginning of post combat main phase.
Add red to your manna for each one life. Your
opponents have lost this turn and it has a flicked three.
So if it becomes blocked, defending player loses three. If
they don't, could they take four, which post combat you
get four red mana. You can do it again and
again and again and again and again and again, and
you just only net more mana because it just cumulatively
counts how much life your opponents have lost.
Speaker 1: Because you just keep taking combats in some manner, and
I mean, eventually you will have such an overwhelming advantage
that you just win, or you yeah, or you hit
them with a giant comet storm, a huge fireball.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Oh, you don't even need
to just go lightning bolt and then I'll fork it.
You took six and I'm gonna get a free combat
out of this. Then you took six more because I
attacked you with flyers. Now I get this mini man
and I get this mini manna yea. Yeah, So it's
it's kind of wild like that. It's cool deck if
you've ever seen it kind of play out because it
plays some weird cards.
Speaker 1: I think that it plays a lot like God in
terms of actually sitting down and playing it, because both
of them rely kind of heavily on that one card
that makes the debt go. And then like once you've
done it, you've kind of done it. Yeah, Like I've
eerycrafted this deck a whole bunch of times. I have
a really cool one that's got a fingerprint texture on it,
and I keep sitting down and I pull the cards
out and I put them together.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this deck, you and I a bunch
of times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in my head it's like, yeah, I'm gonna
sleave it up. And by the time I get to
actually sleaving the deck, IP was like, I don't want it.
I just put it away.
Speaker 2: You know what card I think should always go in
this deck, Price of Progress, because it's a real fuck
You like, take two for each non basic land everybody,
Like everybody takes two for each non basic, and it's like, oh, hey,
you want to be like that, take ten, you have
five non basics, everybody, I'm gonna make thirty. Manna, I'm
gonna have six combat steps this turn. Yeah, everybody's gonna
die or again, common storm, fireball, earthquake, all yes, all
usable very They just roll into each other. You want
to talk about past in flames? Yeah, you freaking get
all that, man after your fucking earthquake, everybody. Yeah, it's
pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this got too bad.
Speaker 2: Pretty good, this will kind of be cool. And Zana
just makes it more challenging to play because you have
to do everything pre combat and then go through combat
and then you get your manna. As if that deck
wasn't hard enough to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, anyways, anyhow, let's go to the next one
PERF Big PERF. So this card, this card Fox, So
this is Norn's main win strategy. But the you can
play different stuff. So you can put in goblins, you
can put in like little weenie guys. You can put
in anything that just makes more do yeah, only gets
better over time. Pros go out of the forge six'
five four.
Speaker 2: Four i'm actually surprised to see this as a commander
as opposed to being in the ninety. Nine my, well
my limited experience is with having Perf ros in the
ninety nine because he's got that pseudo fire breathing for
your whole, team and he is kind of an, engine
like a like the the value adder for your ET b. Deck,
yeah if you've got infinite, blink he's the damage. Dealer
LIKE i use him as an infinite outlet for an
anamar infinitely bouncing ancestral statute And perferos freaking.
Speaker 1: Ki yeah, yeah that's freaking. Good but imagine having your
value engine in his own.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i suppose that's. It that's that's uh.
Speaker 1: Absolute best card In perferos got of the forge of the,
deck nor in The Werry.
Speaker 2: Red.
Speaker 1: Blink as long as you're just making, dudes perf is
gonna do.
Speaker 2: Damage here we, go then.
Speaker 1: It's it's a. THING i, Think, uh our old buddy
f you Little ben? Played did he have A perfe?
DECK i think he.
Speaker 2: Did, yeah, DANG i don't even know that guy was.
Speaker 1: Alive, still he might not. BE i haven't seen it
in a long.
Speaker 2: Time, yeah maybe he's not little. ANYMORE i probably, is probably,
is unless is a fat. Guy, now, well that would
insinuate That ben isn't big anymore because we still have
a big Bo.
Speaker 1: Yeah cause it's compared TO i guess we did call
Them Little ben And Big ben in comparison to one.
Another AND i don't think he's bigger than Big.
Speaker 2: Ben, no Big.
Speaker 1: Ben very large.
Speaker 2: Man, yes very large, man very large. Man shout out
to if you've been, yeah, yeah, yeah tour man and
ANOTHER i haven't been, mentioning but another date stamp. Card
look at.
Speaker 1: That this was from the year that we're looking, At
september twenty. Nineteen he's a two four for red red red.
Speaker 2: One that means he shot up the frickin' list.
Speaker 1: Fast. Yeah, oh, well wait TILL i read the. Card
if a red source you, control wuld you damage to
an opponent or a permanent opponent? Controls does that much
damage plus two instead plus?
Speaker 2: Two i'm gonna deal plus two damage To noah if
he doesn't move the mouse pointer off the SET. Tv
oh there's a look behind the behind the curtain you.
See was he was he? Listening, no he's thinking about.
IT i don't think he's.
Speaker 1: LISTENING i don't think he's.
Speaker 2: Listening he even did a little circle just to for.
Speaker 1: Me what a good, Guy what a good. Dude for
those who, know they KNOW i actually have this deck,
TOGETHER i actually have this. DECK i sure. DO i
won a game with it. YESTERDAY i play a Tour
brand thign of. Pain it's a quit hitting yourself deck
or anytime you do anything it hurts, you and because
of Tor, brand it hurts you more than.
Speaker 2: Me you know, WHAT i just thought of? Something tell
ME i just thought of some gold dang old. Thing,
okay usually in the chaos, deck like the chaos deck
that you think of. That you hate to play against.
That everybody, you the audience AND ccio nation hate to
play against. You they have the quit hitting yourself cards,
yep alongside the chaos, cards, Right AND i THINK i appreciate.
Now you, KNOW i haven't told you all your Monorec
red decks do the same damn.
Speaker 1: Thing hey they. Don't well that's what you always.
Speaker 2: Say, yeah BUT i think for the first, time after
all these, years MAYBE i realize that they. Don't because
usually the hitting yourself bullshit and the chaos bullshit all
go in the same. Deck but you have them. Split that's,
Right you've split those two. Things you've done a full
spready in those two different. Abilities. YEAH i leaned in on.
Good you leaned in on the spready.
Speaker 1: YEP Whoa CAN i tell you a story real? Fast.
Yeah so we're playing a. Game it's a two headed giant.
Game in this particular, Instance, oh Tour brand than Of
red felt very good Into oh, yes each Opponent, yes,
yes So toby Playing Mono. Blue of, Course rando has scytheclau.
Raptors so when he plays something on not his, turn
he gets. Foured. Yes with Tor brand he gets. Sixth.
Speaker 2: YES i like that and also has roiling.
Speaker 1: Vortex so whenever they play a, spell he plays a
spell that costs no mana like a force of. Will
he uh takes, five but it's actually. Seven, Okay so
playing Alex is my, partner he goes card that's really. Good,
Yes so he looks at me and says how Much
WHEN i look down at my at my my chart
death the, chart AND i say thirteen because he's going
to force the.
Speaker 2: Will and you know what he.
Speaker 1: Did he pitched the card and force the thirteen to
himself plus the loser life on forced.
Speaker 2: Them, yes.
Speaker 1: Five called the moto At angelis's partner and he looks,
like what are you?
Speaker 2: Doing i've got mono white Angel Aer AND's LIKE i
can't gain, Enoughing like what DO i?
Speaker 1: Want how to roiling? VORTEX i pay a red and
they can't gain all, right and so, good and then
at the beginning of their turn they're taking six.
Speaker 2: More, oh Tor brown is a Beating and.
Speaker 1: That's just What i'm doing with, It like you know
WHAT i, Mean i'm playing like a bunch of junk
that does one when you do something play stuff like
manna barbs with Tor.
Speaker 2: Bran, yeah instances of deal. Damage not all the deal
damage at, once but instances of deal. Damage this Is
Gyerson starn as. Well, right whenever something does, one it does. Three,
yes if you do, two it doesn't do. Three so
you want instances of one to maximize what you do
correct and.
Speaker 1: One and this is really easy to do in red.
Speaker 2: Like, normally normally you would like maybe take a five
to five over five one, ones but Tor brand wants
five one. Ones, yes so they can all do.
Speaker 1: Three, yes that's much more. Damage, yes it's fifteen damage over,
seven three times as many. Damages, yes three hundred percent more.
DAMAGE i gus is two hundred percent more? Damage isn't?
Speaker 2: THAT i don't.
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know how the maths for.
Speaker 2: Blockers. Fo, yeah we're.
Speaker 1: Playing to take block of. Shit let's the next, one?
Speaker 2: Man what number one on this is? Three coming?
Speaker 1: Up probably we're probably gonna find out right after we
click this. Button there is Now, diready Now doready in
the TIME i think IT'S c fourteen is when he
came out and he actually is or was The stacks
commander like this was Winter Roarb static or Ye Ensnaring
bridge all that, shit.
Speaker 2: And i'll also add because he's got sacrifice an. Artifacts
if you do return to artifact from a graver to the,
battlefield that's like, uh scrap goblin, welders goblin, wilders scrap for,
treasure trush for trash for.
Speaker 1: Charger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh it's kind of the artifact peddley DECK
etb AND etb and battlefield and it's. Bin we've got
to make. That we've got to start making fetch happen
WITH etb and eat to be doubling and tokens and
worm coil. Engine, again everything we said about felt also.
This but this guy's harder to.
Speaker 1: Kill, yes he's harder to. Kill and again like he
because he's a planes. Walker he plays through all of
the traditional stacks. Stuff he didn't give a about any of.
Speaker 2: It he didn't give a crap about fricking earthquake.
Speaker 1: Either, yeah he didn't give a shit about any of that.
Speaker 2: Stuff. Yeah so this this is maybe our first red
kind of control. Deck this deck is not in the driver's.
Seat it's wanting to do things on its, turn but
it wants to.
Speaker 1: Control, yeah it wants to make sure that your turn.
Speaker 2: Sucks we keep forgetting to do the do the thing
more or less powerful Than. NOURIN i think this guy
might be more.
Speaker 1: POWERFUL i think he might be more powerful THAN i
Think torbrand might be more powerful Than norn.
Speaker 2: As well in terms of, SPEED i think Survival. Billy
you know, WHAT i don't think people are Expecting. Nourin,
no they're expecting Tor brand to hurt. You, YES i
don't think they're Expecting.
Speaker 1: Norn and the amount of work you have to do
to Kill norn is pretty, intense AND i don't think
that in a lot of, games even people who have
played against that deck for years will. Not they don't
start worrying about him until it's too. LATE i did
so much work to kill.
Speaker 2: Him i've got some. Tips if you're playing ever Against
brando's Uncle Brando's norn, deck.
Speaker 1: Just go with the.
Speaker 2: Flow just go with the. Flow everybody's life totals are
going to be going, down.
Speaker 1: Yeah so let me do.
Speaker 2: It if you can squeak a killing like kind of low,
consequence like get, one because everybody's gonna be at fifteen or,
twenty and that's that makes killing a lot. Easier, yeah
and killing is. Good, Also tip, two If brando's nuts
to the wind and you can get. Him absolutely get.
Speaker 1: Him because if, Not i'm going to get.
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, like if he's at thirty and you can
maybe get two guys or Get, brando you probably Get.
Brando yeah, yeah and then you just remind the other
two guys that are still. Alive you, say, HEY i
made sure that you guys don't die, next.
Speaker 1: And then you kill them next her and.
Speaker 2: Too. YEAH i just kind of go with. IT i hate.
Life everybody knows that life is live's for the. Week
i'll freaking pay. Life i'll give it away until you're at.
One hell, yeah, brother you ever heard of the card
treeson Is? Ogre?
Speaker 1: Yeah hell you talked about him.
Speaker 2: Earlier, MAN i treason This ogre freaking down to. One
so many Times i'd gain life just to treeson This
ogre down to. One WHEN i was at? Four was that?
Three one time gain to life went to? One fucking.
Good you should do an episode just on trees and It's.
Speaker 1: Ogre it's, sober very, good all the fucking crazy ship
that it can.
Speaker 2: Do, yeah do you have a pair of trees and
it's over with, white gain a bunch of, Life no
coward to. YOU i got a trees in this ogre
and THEN i test. Protect oh, no because that phases.
Out damn. IT i can't can't do, both can't do
both life total can't. Change you.
Speaker 1: Can't you have to put him on the.
Speaker 2: Stack, NO i guess you can't pay. That you're. Paying
it's a cost that. Sucks, yeah ship trees and is
over cut? It, yeah cut, it forget everything we, said cut.
Speaker 1: It and post.
Speaker 2: Crank.
Speaker 1: Over we're on Number who saw this call? Man number
one time crankin danks all day. Long he's a three
three goblin warrior For Red red and two tap put
ex goblins into, play where x is the number of
goblins you control for the.
Speaker 2: RECORD i, WONDER i wonder why this guy's number one and.
Speaker 1: Rude not only is he the Top red commander by
a margin that is, insane he's also the one and
only mono colored commander in the top ten of edhreck dot.
Com he's like number five in all of all of
edh wreck of all. Time Cranco boss is in the
top five. Commanders, ever it's Like attraxa and all that
shit we talk About.
Speaker 2: Cranco, yeah Like attraxa Er dragon uh uh Uncleger.
Speaker 1: Yeah like he stands amongst, giants and IT'S i, mean
it's obvious to see why he does all the things
that we've talked, about with the exception of What duretti
And felden are. Doing he does all the ship that
all of the other commanders driver's seat go.
Speaker 2: Wide. Goblins we haven't really talked about goblins because generally
the goblin that we Saw zata doesn't isn't It goblin. Deck,
no it's just a coincidence that there's instance in sorceries
that make. Goblins, yeah but this is The goblin Commander Goblin.
Warrior tap put x red goblin creatures into, play where
x is the amount of goblins you, control so it
doubles your goblins correct all the time every. Time and
you know WHAT i feel, LIKE I Occo nation Of
Public service announcement BECAUSE i haven't made this public service
ANNOUNCEMENT i think in. Years oh, WOW i don't even think.
Speaker 1: No one was born. Yet oh.
Speaker 2: Dang, okay if you're playing A cranco, deck just HAVE d.
Twenties you don't need to lay out all of your
goblin tokens on your entire. Table you don't need fifty
goblin tokens on your. Table just use some. Dice just
use some. Dice that's what everybody else. Does And i'm
not saying do what everybody else does because Playing cranco you,
WELL i guess you do what everybody else.
Speaker 1: Does you are exponentially making more, goblins and you will
run out of dice. Cards if you're carrying around, goblin
you'll run out of.
Speaker 2: Cards you won't run out of. Dice you just you
just make this number act as. Ten this one act.
Speaker 1: Is you, know you could have a goblin that's that's
untapped and a goblin that is, tapped or a goblin
that has summoning. Sickments oh, YEAH i.
Speaker 2: DO i do use two separate, tokens even if everything's,
untapped for ones that are summoning sick and ones that are.
NOT i JUST i do do.
Speaker 1: THAT i have one with three dice on. It one
of the dice is up. Well usually by the time
the goblins are tapped or all. Dead that's that's How cranko.
Speaker 2: Works goblin's, ATTACK i thought they just got sacrificed to
Kirk skirt, prospective.
Speaker 1: And they do that. Too they certainly do do that.
Too the ass so it's an agro. Deck it's a combo.
Deck it can do. EVERYTHING i think that there's one
creature that's in minor in deck still that's in there
just because it's a goblin and It's. Crnco because you
know What cranco can do by, himself make an army of,
goblin double your goblins every single, turn to do insane
amounts of damage to.
Speaker 2: Everybody it's. Crazy cranco is a Fantastic and you know, What,
CRANCO i don't think anybody's ever said. This i'm just
gonna cast this Value cranco right, Right like what if
you're Like, cranco SO i can block your two two
end of, Turn i'll make a, goblin right, yeah on my,
Turn i'll make two goblins Untapped, Cranco i'll make four.
Goblins and now you have like a whole team of.
Speaker 1: Blockers, yeah they're like and all of a sudden you're,
like oh, shit this this, Value cranco is much.
Speaker 2: Value, Yeah i'll Just i'll block to your guys Or
i'll chump or oh how many blockers do you? Got? Ten,
OKAY i want to attack, You, okay end to, Turn
i'll make twenty. Guys like, wait a. Second, wait what.
Speaker 1: What tremendous tremendous. Spoiler he's also he's still.
Speaker 2: The number one he was then he is.
Speaker 1: NOW i think he is unassailable at this, point more
or less powerful than nour.
Speaker 2: More, more damnit more. Powerful crank my dank crankle bob
ross damn.
Speaker 1: It he does. Everything he's very.
Speaker 2: Good put a happy little goblin over, there just.
Speaker 1: Kidding he has a, knife, Exactly he has a, knife
and the one that he brought with him as a.
Chainsaw and then their two buddies both.
Speaker 2: Have guns and they're hiding them in their butt cracks.
Exactly and then the.
Speaker 1: Next four each have a cake with a little saw
hidden in, It.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah those angel food, cakes and my grandma used
to make where she put coins in.
Speaker 1: Them, yeah but the dirty coins they found out of the.
Speaker 2: Sewer. Yeah did you ever have angel food kick that
your grandma?
Speaker 1: Maiden, yeah and then you chew the, diamond it cuts your.
Speaker 2: Face do you ever have one with a toothpick in?
It what in the ass were they thinking in the fricking. Fifties,
no she put a toothpick in there to show that
you're gonna have like healthy teeth or.
Speaker 1: Something, no that's, Dementia, ryan that's, dementia is what that.
Is that's not that's not an. Ingredient she's still.
Speaker 2: Around my grandma freaking. Old my grandma's as old as.
Crankle My grammar taps to W your goblins.
Speaker 1: Go up To grammar, like tilted her to the side
a little. BIT a bunch of, Goblins, poppa you.
Speaker 2: Can goblins come. Out they try to sell You mary, kay,
yeah well, done well. Done but then you tap her
the other. WAY a bunch of goblins come out and
start trash talking your uncle and your. Grandpa, fuck they
start talking to you about the fucking passion at. Easter oh,
NO i don't want. It, yeah well that's me playing
against crankle at you don't want.
Speaker 1: It that's. Right so let's check out now and now
the now is in a pool of, blood because blood is,
red and that's what that. Is if you're watching on,
YouTube you should be which you should, be, yes. Correct
so let's let's see who's number ten, Now?
Speaker 2: Slicer do you Remember?
Speaker 1: Slicer? No, no so he's he's a slip. Over Try
i'll just read. IT i think that he's been outclassed,
already and we're gonna talk about that. Later so he's
a three to four for, five one of which is.
Red he's got more than meets the, eye which is red,
too so you can play him on his other. Side
he's a double strike. Hayster at the beginning of each opponent's,
upkeep you may have that player gain control Of slicer
and to let him. Turn if you do, Untapped slicer
got it and it can't be sacrificed this. Turn if you,
don't you flip it over to its other.
Speaker 2: Side you got the other, SIDE i Do.
Speaker 1: Slicer high speed. Antagonist he's a three to. Two he's
a living metal fucking. Whenever he's a first strike with,
haste whenever he does combat damage to a player and
flip it. Over what the?
Speaker 2: Fuck why why is this number?
Speaker 1: Ten he was A cdh. Guy he's ANOTHER cdch. Commander
you just YOU playff And slicer and you beef them
up and you pass them. Around and BECAUSE cdh at
the time was so kind of slow and nobody really played,
guys you had a three four or three four to
attack for six on everybody's. Turn because he's. Goaded they
would just beat the shit out of the whole table
because he was the biggest creature, forever, Right.
Speaker 2: YEAH i, KNOW i. Know how DID i not know
that that was a?
Speaker 1: DECK i don't.
Speaker 2: Know that seems like the kind of thing THAT i
love magic, theory. CRAFTING i love bullshit like. That that's
like What, yeah that's like that's like The marylyn The
Morn song deck where it's eighty seven, swamps but it's
just nobody, plays. Guys So slicer's gonna attack for?
Speaker 1: Six, yeah huh, yeah what are you gonna? Do block
with your? Value?
Speaker 2: Dude what are you gonna? Do block with your auristic?
Speaker 1: Study? Exactly what are you gonna?
Speaker 2: Do not take two from your fucking? Manivault, yeah now
everybody's taken eight.
Speaker 1: Return, yeah that's, precisely and it's commander. Damage so people
get maybe you can equip him up a little, bit
you can make it bigger. Man now he's swinging for Fucking.
Speaker 2: Tien that's who Outclassed. Norn wait for, him come, on come, On,
okay what's number? Nine how DID i not know about
this piece of? TRASH i knew that he was a,
transformer AND i remember talking transformers when he came.
Speaker 1: Out, yeah and he's like the only transformer that made
an impact anywhere, really.
Speaker 2: And that marks our first universes beyond in the now.
Speaker 1: Smart and it was one of the ones THAT i think,
nobody nobody gave a shit.
Speaker 2: About it's Not Optimus, prime it's Not.
Speaker 1: Megatron even the ub was just like here's some cards
that are in and everyone's like a fun. Whatever even
we were, like, yeah he's not very.
Speaker 2: Good, yeah they they aren't and this isn't this is
not a very good. Card And commander no just in
that just just that one time point in CD ah
where it was like.
Speaker 1: Right, up, okay wrecking about bad number.
Speaker 2: Nine oh, Slicer, okay that's the other side number actual.
Nine it wouldain the pyromancer Pyro. Hammer, yeah this card
IS i think. Wild, first It's mono, red but it
does have the night creature, type which isn't irrelevant, sure
also a human which lots of things are, humans so
it becomes better strictly because Of kaverno. Souls, yes, yeah
even in my advisor, DECK i named human because literally
all of them are. Humans, okay so uh four to
four Human knight For Red red. Two whenever an instant
or sorcery spell you control that target's only a single,
creature deals damage to that, creature And modaine deals that
much damage to each. Opponent, yes that sounds Like zada
but for, them but For Bernie Burn, yeah, yeah it
sounds Like, zada but for their.
Speaker 1: Guys it was not for their, guys it's for.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah BUT i have to deal damage to that
creature and then it deals damage to that. Opponent, yeah
so it's, yeah it's kind of Like zada AS i
Played Lightning bolt and then you take three to. Two,
yeah is the like the.
Speaker 1: Gist Of, yah and the gag Is i'm gonna Play
Shiven meteor and it's gonna take thirteen and then you're
gonna take.
Speaker 2: THIRTEEN i don't Hate Shiven.
Speaker 1: Meteor, yeah AND i think That i'm. NOT i was
surprised That immodane is on. Here and again here's a
spoiler To ralph is Not tralph Is all excess damage
is dealt to something, else AND i feel like he
just does What Immo dane does but.
Speaker 2: Better, ah maybe we're missing, something like.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's An immodane thing That i'm not seeing, here
but LIKE i don't, Know like, yeah there's a bunch
of big red stupid stuff that does four and, five
and over the course of time you can play a
pretty decent burn deck.
Speaker 2: On this is this the card that makes burn? Good
like you, know you, know, okay fast fast, back that's. Rewind, okay.
Rewind kids know rewinding isn't these?
Speaker 1: Days, yeah they do.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah but he's he works in like a v
and shit he knows he they know. That, okay, okay,
Okay so rewind back into the day where people are,
like burns no good in aviation you only can do
like six four three whatever. Damage, sure burn no. Good
you need commander to do like double damage or make
your red mana so you can go tall with your. Burn,
right this is in that family or under that. Umbrella, yes,
Right i'd kill your guy and you consequently take the
same amount of damage that your dead guy. Took, yes
it's kind of a damage doubler in the command zone
in that. Capacity it's all, RIGHT i don't hate. That
is it the best burn commander in the zone.
Speaker 1: Because trelp, exists because tref, exists not turelf, exists and
so Does torbra and Tor.
Speaker 2: Brand you meant to yea Tor bran. Exists torbrand is
Whenever creature takes excess non combat.
Speaker 1: Damage tralph is whenever they take extra non combat. Damage
oh that's What, okay you can pass it. To, okay
Tour brand is a better burn commander and tralf is
a better like instance in, sorceries fuck you up commander
to brow like by Tor brand deck is they quit
hitting yourself with hit. Yourself it's a burn, deck is
what it. Is, yeah it just doesn't rely on lightning, bolt,
right whereas this one would use lightning, bolt but you're
getting smaller, numbers four smaller, numbers and then something Like
toralph just waits for your opponents to this is true
play magic and then kills all of them with one.
Speaker 2: Speck and trelf is excess non combat damage opponent. Takes
so if they've got like three one ones and you
earthquake for, ten they're gonna Take they're gonna take nine
and nine and nine because nine excess combat damage per
one one that they. Had that's, Right so they're gonna
take like twenty.
Speaker 1: Seven, yeah and this deck would play a lot of
the same. Stuff or you're giving your opponents a goblin
or you're giving your opponents a, spin, right and then
you pound it with something, like, hey here's a shitty
one one spirit off my.
Speaker 2: Land loll.
Speaker 1: Oh by the, way the RED i, Got i'm gonna
use it to shivin media. Mediorite, yeah, thirteen get.
Speaker 2: Quaranteened.
Speaker 1: Right SO i think it's a fun. DECK i just think, That,
okay that's. FUN i just think there's better choices to
do what she's, doing just, TANGENTIALLY i.
Speaker 2: Guess BUT i, wonder and this is the kind of
thing that you or anybody would listen to edh rec
for maybe is is is this the burn commander that
you can build to do the fun burn thing that
is maybe, cheaper more budget budget? Friendly? Right is the
is this the one that you would play in your
like fifty dollars? Deck? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Right does it include can you still make it insanely
powerful without fast manna or things like wheel Of fortune
all these expensive. Staples, Sure i'll bet you.
Speaker 1: Could i'll bet you.
Speaker 2: Could, SO i mean we're not really looking at all
that because we're not stats. Guys we don't have all
the advanced stats That dhreck. Does we don't we're not finance.
Guys but this, one if it represents the burn kind
of sub genre In red where you're just casting instance and,
SORCERIES i can see anything like tour Brand orterurelf Or
imodaine being on the list absolutely. Yeah, Yeah and LIKE
i was saying About Guyerson starn, too the instances Of deal,
One yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i could see this deck even being fun to.
Play i'll BET i. Could and full, DISCLOSURE i was
actually Thinking i'm gonna WHEN i saw it, Spoiled i'm
gonna build this in wilds of L. Drain but THEN i, realized,
WAIT i already have To, ralph AND i really like To.
RALPH i still have To. Ralph i'm not gonna switch it.
OUT i don't want to have two decks that literally
do the same, thing which is WHAT i get accused
of doing sometimes even THOUGH i don't.
Speaker 2: Buy me correct all the. Time, yes when sometimes becomes
all the, time that's When brando's Play Red And.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna literally do What i'm being accused.
Speaker 2: Of that's no, fun right unless you go all in on,
that which would be very monoid of.
Speaker 1: You that's. True it just built four decks that literally
were the same deck with the commanders were.
Speaker 2: Different can you imagine going down to one life with
trees and this ogre just a fucking? Earthquake?
Speaker 1: Yes hell, yeah? Brother If i've never done.
Speaker 2: Next Card.
Speaker 1: Krato's god Of war that was printed this, year he
can eat my whole.
Speaker 2: ASS i, KNOW i.
Speaker 1: Know here's our second universe Is beyond card again printed this.
Speaker 2: Year that ties a world record for most universes beyond
in The arc of evolution thus. Far that's? Rights or
did one color have a? THREE i think?
Speaker 1: Blue MIGHT i head? Three as shit he might, have but,
whatever maybe we'll get. There Cradle's god Of war is
a two to three For. Red Red red has double.
Strike all creatures have. Haste at the beginning of Each
blayer's end, Step cradle steals damage to That blair equal
to the number of creatures That blair controls that didn't
attack this. Turn there's already a creature that does, this
or an enchantment that does.
Speaker 2: This you know WHAT i like about all of whatever
the bullshit that card does tell me all creatures have?
Haste do you know how much that fus up? Games
guys forget guys Forgetting they're, like OH i can get.
In oh, wait how many tap. Guys, Oh i'm gonna
attack you for. One lana War elf turn one after
a freaking while Mass hysteria or Or kratos get you for, one,
right like.
Speaker 1: Where you tap it immediately for the.
Speaker 2: Man, yeah oh my. God all creatures have haste is
like my funnest. Thing there's a plane that does that, too, Right,
yep it's a So. Kensen, no it's it's it's somewhere
from from Chemic.
Speaker 1: And then when you roll the, thing you guys get.
Bigger it's the whole it's a whole bunch Of.
Speaker 2: YEAH i like all of the things that this card.
DOES i like that it's a two three double strike
for red red. Red that that's a very red kind of.
Card H it has haste because all creatures have. Haste,
remember because because all creatures have, haste that's fucked. Up
and at the beginning of each, playing if it didn't,
attack better attacks Son angel.
Speaker 1: Trumpet No angel trumpet does something. Else but there's other
cards that kind of do that last.
Speaker 2: Ability, yeah we play them, both maybe a different.
Speaker 1: Way you just play it on the.
Speaker 2: Deck, YEAH i like this. Card is there a non
universes beyond? VERSION i can play with. It, nope that's some.
Bullshit just this, one that's some. Bullshit.
Speaker 1: YEAH i was actually surprised to see this one go up.
Quickly it's a what number six of the modern, cards
and it's, like what what.
Speaker 2: Is that a function? Of is it a function of
the words printed on the? Card is it a function
of a? Universe is beyond secret? Layer?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah i'm honestly what is?
Speaker 2: It? Why why?
Speaker 1: Is if you have any, ideas let us know in the,
comments Because i'm astounded by. THIS i have no idea
why he's.
Speaker 2: There that's a good.
Speaker 1: ONE i didn't Think god Of war was still that.
Popular aren't they making a MOVIE tv? Series oh, yeah yeah,
yeah And i'll watch, that probably. Won't it's The norse
crados at, least this is how. Man, well There's greek
cradles when he wouldn't be, Crazy, no and there's only.
One he's, like but in he was an idiot who
killed everybody in The greek. One, Right, yeah he's killing
gods and ripping people's heads off and, shit and then
he get tricked into not having his powers so that
the other games could. Happen and then he was, like,
YEAH i GUESS i suck now and he became an
old man with a, beard and he moved To norse,
mythology and nobody cares at LEAST i don't. Care AND
i don't want to watch a show about him with his.
Son you know why because he kills his son and
his wife and their ashes are on his skin and
that's why he's.
Speaker 2: White spoiler, Alert, yeah OR i want that. Cradle you
could just Watch. Vikings, SURE i want to watch The,
vikings she, said she liked.
Speaker 1: IT i want to see cradles. Fight vikings just cut
him in half with his.
Speaker 2: Flaming knightdregnar loth. Brookolets and he used to call me
at one CAMP i worked at WHEN i had just
working long mohawk with the side shaped, RIGHT i was
Real jack because ALL i did was freaking hate my
life and work. Out, yeah and eat the free protein
meat that they had, there except on taco night and eat,
tacos yes, yeah and butter Chicken knight and Steak net
had caesar salad with your, steak yes, yeah, bro it
had lettuce in it though. Gross, Yeah caesar salad usually has.
Speaker 1: Lettuce it's, heinous but it also has caesar salad dressing and.
CROUTONS i like both of.
Speaker 2: Those, yeah you know, What, caesar here's the one for the.
Comments caesar salad third best, salad next To greek and.
Taco and that's fighting. Words some people say taco salad best.
SALAD i like macaroni. Salad, ooh that's good. Salad it's
got to be the right, one. Though, YEAH i gotta
have it's gotta have little cubes of cheese in.
Speaker 1: It, Actually Mary browns has, that like a fast food
chicken place out of Eastern. Canada they if you have one,
nearby they have a really good.
Speaker 2: Path literally have A Merry browns in the. Mall we
play magic.
Speaker 1: Hat, yeah little cubes of cheese in. It it's got
the it's quite good macaroni.
Speaker 2: Salad though maybe it cracks the top.
Speaker 1: TEN i don't know if it's A i don't even
know if it's actually a. SALAD i don't think it.
Speaker 2: Is when you smash up anything, together that's freaking.
Speaker 1: Salad but it's just it's just macaroni with they get cold.
Macaroni that's what it.
Speaker 2: IS i think that. Counts let us know in the, Comments,
actually let us know in the. Comments i'm top top five. Salads,
sure you know WHAT i. Think me Saying greek salad
number one, Salad i'm gonna get as many hate comments
as saying whom WAS i? Was jeep best fucking equipment and.
Commander but who was that?
Speaker 1: Was jeep is the best, Commander that's WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Said but apparently that's like Eating caesar salad or Or greek. Salad,
yeah what's your?
Speaker 1: What your?
Speaker 2: Idiots smart?
Speaker 1: Enough smart?
Speaker 2: Up it's the next Card crados Eating greek salad looks like.
It he's got jacked. Abs he's jack.
Speaker 1: Nor in the wearing baby there he. Is he's only
gone up in the. World you're welcome to take total
credit for, this my boy going up in the world
being a secret, layer secret card just for.
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah i'm gonna drink a beer to. That that's
pretty fucking.
Speaker 1: Cool i'm gonna drink this beer to. That so that's
something that's The ifcation has done, Anything ceco or me
personally has done anything in the magic, space it's. Elevating
is that your?
Speaker 2: Legacy? Yes what's my what's my fricking? LEGACY i don't
GOT i don't got a guy like. That, no, dang, sorry,
man frick playing Mass. HYSTERIA i do, that damn. It, ah.
Speaker 1: You'll find. SOMETHING i.
Speaker 2: BELIEVE i played mass hysteria one day in my entire,
life BUT i played it in every GAME i played
In nice.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: Games turn, one Mass hysteria kept a, Hand turn One Mass. Hysteria.
Speaker 1: Boom there you.
Speaker 2: Go, yeah got second of that Game nice because of Mass,
hysteria BECAUSE i fucking forty to, guy he got really.
Speaker 1: Mad there's just everything we said to nor in the
where he. Applies over the course of. Time what we've
seen is a bunch of things that, say when a
creature comes into plan under your, control do something.
Speaker 2: There it.
Speaker 1: Is that's why he's, better that's why he's.
Speaker 2: Good so let's do a. Recap we've Got slicer at ten.
Weird we've Got immodane at, Eight crados at nine seven
seven counting the wrong, Way nora in at. Six yeah
baby at five Is.
Speaker 1: Danuk another Nw Guy chanuke danuke'stead fast second is a
three four three Five kavu hilot For Red. Red two
other creatures you control have. Hacee there's, that get it
and artifact cards In. Red creature cards in your hand
have warp, three one of which is, red which means
you can pay red two with them into. Play they have,
haste and then you remove them from the game after
at the end of turn and you.
Speaker 2: Can play them again. Later, yeah you like warp them
in and then they warp back, out but then you
can still cast them. Later, correct they like go to your,
exile but their their warp is. Enabled so you pump
this guy out on turn Two Ulla mauga. Motherfucker on turn,
THREE i don't hate. That and then dark steel coloss
is another guy on turn four. Yep and then no
Blight steale blight steel.
Speaker 1: Them then you give the other guy the finger and
hope you draw something else.
Speaker 2: Big to get him with or just keep playing big. Things,
yeah because warp gives them.
Speaker 1: Haste well, yeah but see in my, head like you're
uh what you calls, It you've already drawn two things
that kill somebody just by attacking, them so you gotta
draw another.
Speaker 2: One you forgot your Boy, kuselek but you got to
draw that many man and his Friend emra cool and
in a tally and his friend other ulamoh right and
his other friend Other.
Speaker 1: Ulamoh, yeah have we gone? Over what the deck does
YET i feel like that's probably or you do the
same thing that we were talking about with uh the
old Man feldon where you play the thing that comes,
in give you some, dudes and then later on you
can play him, again get some more.
Speaker 2: Dudes hate that does warp exile them if they would
leave the battlefield Like unearthed, does or IF i sacrifice
my warp guide as you go to my. GRAVEYARD i
think so i'd have to look for. THAT i actually
don't hate.
Speaker 1: THAT i, Mean i'm gonna look at it while you
tell us more about to nook one, second.
Speaker 2: Because IF i could go, LIKE i don't, know, well
blight still wouldn't work because he shuffles himself back, in
so does first.
Speaker 1: Ulamk.
Speaker 2: Yeah but IF i could sacrifice something and then trash
for treasure it, right that could be like the next turn.
Speaker 1: It exiles an end of, turn that's when it. Exis
so if you sack, it it goes to your.
Speaker 2: Bit there's probably a lot of little, tricks, obay and
there's probably a lot of ways to create. VALUE i
don't think that's what people are doing, Though, NO i
think that they're doing WHAT i. Said you ever played
against this.
Speaker 1: Guy, NO i was gonna build him. THOUGH i was
gonna build this thing.
Speaker 2: Too you're gonna do the thing, though, Right oh, yeah
Bled steel his buddy. Ullamug.
Speaker 1: Yeah but then as soon AS i look down at the,
Deck i'm, LIKE i don't want to do this. AGAIN
i already had one of those.
Speaker 2: Decks this sort of feels Like alex's egg, deck where
you just picked the most top top of top and
powerful cards to do the thing.
Speaker 1: With, ye and then the rest of it is manus
so you can replay To nook if he gets killed
a couple of, times or until.
Speaker 2: Until you get to the elevation where you can just
spend eleven on your.
Speaker 1: Ulamum, yeah and then you can start playing the things
that you've warped into the. Game AND i felt like,
THAT i don't know this Is this is gonna be
hit or. Miss everybody's either gonna hate it or probably hate.
It So i'm just Gonna i'm Not i'm not gonna.
BOTHER i kept the card because it looks.
Speaker 2: Cool that's a cool. Card he's a.
Speaker 1: Cavu he's a, cavu mind you who flies a?
Speaker 2: Spaceship, Yeah i'm less concerned about the. Spaceship i'm more
concerned about fricking Defending yavamayah from the Fricking perrexxians during
The dominari invasion in a.
Speaker 1: Spaceship know your, magic the gathering, history but he was
defending it in a. Spaceship you know, what freaking theres
didn't have.
Speaker 2: Spaceships they literally had. Spaceships that's how they got to Fucking.
Dominari they did not have space.
Speaker 1: Ships Domin area is the same planet as every other.
PLANET i suppose the Blind eternities.
Speaker 2: Is going through because of The ferrexians. Portals that's how
they got, there that flew in. Space they're.
Speaker 1: SUCKING i don't know IF i buy the WHOLE cavu.
THING i like.
Speaker 2: IT i like. IT i want to make A kvou,
Deck but they're all just like limited limited, scumbags limited
scum for Playing, Invasion Plane, Shift, apocalypse.
Speaker 1: Drafts right and.
Speaker 2: Sealed how can you have two different planets that both
have things that evolve into cavu or we just calling
these things that are similar each Cavo.
Speaker 1: AS i, said you don't because every planet In, magic
every plane is just Domin aro with a different. Name
it's the only way it makes, sense or it's, space
and they've said specifically it's no.
Speaker 2: Spruce, therefore.
Speaker 1: The blind eternity sends you into it and you come
back out of it at the same, place but in
like a DIFFERENT.
Speaker 2: I like the whole blind eternities is not space. THING
i like that space is like where you go when
you go up and up and up and up and
up and up out of a planet that's still. Somewhere.
Yeah the blind eternities is like the place in between.
Universes it's not anywhere. REALITY i like the difference between
space and blind. ETERNITIES i like that there's room for
that in magic and like that's where the fucking I'll
rozzie came. From and, shit that's why they're all tentacles and. Tentally,
yeah we still haven't come to a consensus on if
they're slimy or dry. SLIMY i think they're dry. SLIMY
i think they're dry and Muscli like if you took
a dolphin out of the.
Speaker 1: WATER i think they're slimy and, mustley like if you
touched the dolphin while it was in the.
Speaker 2: Water, yeah as long as that's fucking, Muscly.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's musty for, sure but it's also.
Speaker 2: Slimy yeah you don't think it's?
Speaker 1: Squishy, no definitely, slimy not, squishy.
Speaker 2: Not, squishy heart. Firm yeah like it like it's. Engorged, yeah, sure, yes,
yes next card Run, yes speaking of, engorged next card
number Four Alexios daimios Of. Cosmos remember HOW i Said
slicer has already been. Outclassed what here we are later
in the? LIST i wanted to make an engorged, joke
BUT i.
Speaker 1: Can't, well you could because this is in Gorged. Slicer
it's a four to four four with trample. Attacks each
combat if able can't be sacrificed and can't attack its.
Owner so even if like a, slicer he can be,
goaded so we can eventually attack. You alexios never. Can
at the beginning of each player's up, keep that player
gains control Of, alexios untaps, it puts a plus one
plus one counter on, it and it gains.
Speaker 2: HASTE i got two, Questions, okay first, Question, kate why
did they just do the same? THING i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, also this is another, universe is beyond Cardism Assassin's
Creeds at, THREE i actually have three.
Speaker 2: Questions, okay why did they just do the same? Thing you,
know why did they just make this guy? Better you,
know all power. Creep, okay that's an. Answer THE cdh
aficionados are gonna, say oh, no they didn't because all
these sub kind of genres of answers that are only
pertinent to SEE.
Speaker 1: Dh if this guy is STILL, CDH i don't. KNOW i.
Know it's a pain in my, ass is what he?
Speaker 2: Is? He? Yeah, Uh corey plays this. One is it? Good?
Yes these don't count on my.
Speaker 1: Questions, yes it's.
Speaker 2: Quite it's quite.
Speaker 1: Stout once he's, resolved like you have to remove him
every single time or no, way or he'll just demolish
a Get oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man i've never played against slicer or this.
Speaker 1: Guy oh, yeah this Was he attacks for, four then
he attacks for, five so he's done. Nine, yeah then
he attacks for.
Speaker 2: Six he was just attacking other people all the.
Speaker 1: Time, Yeah and you're sitting there like and then when
he comes back to your, turn you equip him with,
something bash somebody with, it and then the next guy
gets the thing bashes him with.
Speaker 2: The same thing because he already has. Equipment all, yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a loxit on. Warhammer so whenever he hits,
somebody you gain all that fucking. Life OH i don't hate, that,
Right like.
Speaker 2: Then you pay it to is. Ore third, question how
come we don't call f You Alex? Alexios we just
call Him. ALEXI i call him ax.
Speaker 1: Lax it sounds like x.
Speaker 2: Lax, yes and he's. POOP i THINK i think everybody
in my house calls Him. Alexi, now like my Cousin
jess calls him, that and my kid calls him. THAT
i think everybody calls him that in my. HOUSE i
think that's what they. Think his name. Is alex must
just be short for.
Speaker 1: Something, yeah It's, alexi sort For alexi. Y, YEAH i
might be short For alexander to, you.
Speaker 2: Maybe short For.
Speaker 1: ALEXIOS i don't. KNOW i never asked.
Speaker 2: Him, yes we should ask. HIM i.
Speaker 1: Have let's not ask HIM i.
Speaker 2: Have what is? It? Ah? Fuck it's Just. Alex, yeah that's,
lame that's.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: Okay my cousin's name Is. Alexandria that's a cool.
Speaker 1: Name, yeah an interesting. Place there's a library.
Speaker 2: There, yeah, yeah cuss twenty seven hundred dollars if you
want to buy it in magic for. Him, well just
kidding it cos way more Than, yes everybody calls my Cousin.
Lexi should we called my should we call should we
call Alex? Lexi? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah that's.
Speaker 1: Exotic it does sound, exotic that's true.
Speaker 2: And feminine also. Feminine, yeah he's both of those things also.
Speaker 1: True good for?
Speaker 2: Him, okay, Well alexio is better. Splicer i've never played against,
it but apparently it's.
Speaker 1: Good, yes it's it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good. Cool our equipment decks out of? Fashion like are
is this is? This? Like how what when voltron has
turned Into? Yes, yes, OKAY i don't hate that old
your ax AND l deepest. Mite, yes o' hair oh
hair hair ax and. L, yes that's probably like a
hanil or. Something, yeah, Probably, okay this is this is
a god which uh h doesn't matter when he's in
the command zone and it's mono. Red but he's a
four four for four. Trample if a red source you
control a deal damage to, opponent it deals that much
damage again, no, yeah no if combat. Damage if a
source of.
Speaker 1: Control is not combat, damage oh oh, yeah rather lower
then it's. Power it deals damage equal to the power.
Instead so if you have a. Pyroclasm let's just, Say,
pirohemia pardon my my birth, There. Pirohemia it would do.
Speaker 2: One, instead it will do four because o' hair's power is,
four and if you were to bring power ten.
Speaker 1: Brute four, sims he's a seven to. Seven now it does. Seven,
yes and then if he, dies he turns into a.
LAND i didn't bring the.
Speaker 2: LAND i don't. Care nobody plays it for the land.
Speaker 1: Side you bring it because it's O'Hair, Accident.
Speaker 2: So we care about instances of one, Again, yeah we're
doing damage less than.
Speaker 1: Four his sorcery? Form is this?
Speaker 2: Our is this the de facto Burn? Commander?
Speaker 1: No why? Not because it doesn't like hurt. Everybody it
would suffer the same fate as everybody thinks when they
think burn isn't good in eedyh.
Speaker 2: Because IF i lightning bolt your, head it's only. Pump
it doesn't like scale to all four.
Speaker 1: Players yeah what?
Speaker 2: Okay so why is it so high on the?
Speaker 1: List?
Speaker 2: THEN i don't, know because it's cool because it's. Newer
does it have what they say on edh, RIX i
am recency?
Speaker 1: Bias maybe it's not super.
Speaker 2: NEW i know that this card is, good BUT i
didn't think it was this. GOOD i didn't know it
was like number three all time.
Speaker 1: Good AND i DON'T i don't agree with, this, HONESTLY
i don't like this. One AND i kind of cradles
and emod and Like i'm not, sure like people must
be doing something That i'm unaware, of or they just
don't want to do like the most powerful. Thing this
is a great ninety nine. COMMANDER i play him In
noran because it makes all my instances of one the
instances of. Four, yeah but LIKE i don't, know in
the in the command, zone it just feels like he'd
be a shitty commander for my Nor in deck or
a shitty commander for a perferose deck where you're waiting
for those other things to pop. Up by, himself he
doesn't do, anything didn't do.
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i imagine you would have a bunch Of when
you cast an instant or, sorcery it deals, one now
it deals, four and those instances and sorceries you're casting
deal one or. Two now the deal. Four you gotter
snipe and, friends if you, WILL i can see that
earthquake for one becomes earthquake for four for. Nothing, sure,
RIGHT i, mean besides the cost of the card putting
me in your command's own four man oah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah, yeah LIKE i know all the.
Speaker 2: Costs ah it just are we are we? Missing are we?
Missing how good that value? Is maybe WHEN i say
red red x equels fucking, one but now x equals? Four,
like AM i? MISSING i don't? Think so how good that?
Speaker 1: IS i mean IT'S i.
Speaker 2: THINK I i THINK i might. BE i think we
might be underselling.
Speaker 1: THAT i, mean in that, way it's better than Tor,
brand BUT i like to better because it increases your
creature's damage as. Well oh, right that's WHY i still
think that Tor brand is better than oh, HERE i
would switch. THAT i would switch them in my. DECKS
i WOULD i would switch. Them but To brand says.
Everything so my goblin sharpshooter does three is?
Speaker 2: Okay what about? This he's got. Trample so IF i
like pump, spell pump, spell pump, spell or make them,
big let's make them, ten, okay hit you for, ten
hitch you for eleven, Twice, sure it's got trample or.
Whatever like IF i IF i make them a ten, ten,
sure and THEN i earthquake for one earthquakes for ten
or eleven or. Whatever like it's, good THEN i think
IT'S i think it's better than Tor. Brand how your
Tor brand decks just built.
Speaker 1: Different how spread out does the deck.
Speaker 2: Need to be in that? Case how much spready do
you have?
Speaker 1: To like how thin is every aspect of what you're
trying to, Do like you've got old hair axe aci,
Lodel you've got your burn spells that all do one
that you're gonna turn into something, else which are.
Speaker 2: Good if you don't have your, commander then you've.
Speaker 1: Got to have a bunch of stuff to make your commander. Bigger,
yeah which a game do nothing without your.
Speaker 2: Commanders so then you.
Speaker 1: Have To then you have to draw both sides of your.
Deck then you have to have your ramp in your
draw that makes your deck fucking go, Right like it
just it's A i feel like it's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Work maybe you don't Need And i'm gonna throw this out.
THERE i know this is a growing kind of thought
in THE edh. Community do you need that much? Ramp
if all of your stuff in your deck is just
one and two men of burn, spells you can keep
the table clean early game you play your guy on
turn three or four and then you start pumping them
and then put one man of down and it's actually
like five. Damage LIKE i think IT'S i think it's commander.
Dependent but if you have your commander very, efficient and.
Speaker 1: The commander is hard to get rid of because it
just flips over and turns into a. Land, yeah you
can then flip back. Over BUT i don't, know, MAN
i don't. KNOW i see it's good saying he's a bad.
Card i'm just SAYING i think that there's. Better And
i'm surprised to see him so high on the. LIST
i really.
Speaker 2: AM i, REMEMBER i remember people getting their rocks off
when this guy is.
Speaker 1: Printed he's fucking cool as. HELL i love this card
as the top four all time red. COMMANDER i don't, know,
man is you number? FOUR i don't. Know we should
get know where to like keep a little.
Speaker 2: Tally zada is still here AND.
Speaker 1: I was so happy with. YOU i don't Think i'm
gonna see her. Again but there's she. Is she's still
here down down shifted to uncommon, right you.
Speaker 2: Know What i'll drink to? That there it, is that's
an open flu.
Speaker 1: There she is all the same ship that we've been
saying all show apply does that a hedron grinder, again
only more popular because she's only gotten more, tools just Like,
norn only more things that make her do the day
have been. Printed nothing has been taken from, her only.
Speaker 2: Given shout out TO, uh shout out TO, uh To
lenny for the fucking five color Hidden zata. Deck, yeah,
Frick zada's higher up than she used to. Be what
a fucking? Asshole.
Speaker 1: Dang maybe that's your, legacy, man you talk about her
all the.
Speaker 2: TIME i don't.
Speaker 1: Know how do you feel that your legacy is a
mono red goblin?
Speaker 2: Deck it makes me feel. Bad you're me.
Speaker 1: Now it makes me feel HOW i feel you, Wiener
this is HOW i feel all the, time with a
big yeah yeah yeah that. Part yeah.
Speaker 2: Dang. Man if IF i GOT i got hit by
a comet on the way, home AND i said to,
myself as that comment's coming, Down i'm getting shiven. Meard
WOULD i say, DANG i wish people remembered My zada?
Deck or WOULD i say, DANG i wish people remember
my Brew bac. DECK i don't. Know Actually i'd probably say,
DANG i wish people THOUGHT i had a big. Wiener
i'll be.
Speaker 1: DANG i WISH i was going to hit with a
rock from space right? Now, dude, like that's what you're. Thinking, no, no,
no that's not What i'm.
Speaker 2: THINKING i hate, life that's what you. Know you know
what i'd be? Thinking what? DANG i Like mono? Black? Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1: Ship what's the next?
Speaker 2: One? Right? Well what what number was? This it's gonna
be number? TWO i don't.
Speaker 1: Know that's that's is? THAT?
Speaker 2: Us? Three there we? Go? O, noah thanks got, us thanks, Producer.
Noah i'm getting. Excited i'm freaking.
Speaker 1: Excited what is the last mystery?
Speaker 2: One do? It? Fuck? God damn? It so this is number?
One that Isn't? Cranko?
Speaker 1: Yeah fuck, yeah you're gonna when we get To, CRANKO
i do have something very important to.
Speaker 2: Say AM i gonna know what this? Is? AM i
gonna be, SURPRISED i. Hope so let's just let the
let's just let the nation know who it. IS i
don't remember who it, Was no mag brazen. Outlaw this
is A cedh. Motherfucker, yeah you know WHAT i? Think
what do you? Think this is WHAT i think? About
monocolor tell ME i Think mono color huh is good
in Cedh, YEAH.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: TOO i THINK i think That monocolor gives you actually
a better opportunity than people. Think, yeah Especially red Because
red Has mega has Blood.
Speaker 1: Moon And price Of progress two cards that you don't
give A force.
Speaker 2: Of oil And managrain and those are acts of, negation
and well those are all in. Blue, Yes well if
you Played Mono, blue.
Speaker 1: Well you don't Play Mona. Blue you're we're Playing Mono
Red Ryan no.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, OKAY t one dwarf berserk why?
Speaker 1: Not what the?
Speaker 2: Hell, okay you're playing ch doesn't, Matter okay For red
one other dwarves you control against plus one plus, oh
that's super. Relevant whenever a dwarf you control becomes, tapped
create a. Treasure that would be Like magna. Attacking, maybe, yeah,
okay make a.
Speaker 1: Treasure we're tapping with A paradise mantle or.
Speaker 2: Something if that's a cdch, card but sack five. Treasures
search your library for an artifact or a dragon, card
put that card onto the b then shuff and you
just get like that dragon that makes treasure, tokens or
you get some artifact that wins you the game or
locks your opponents out of something or steals, something or
like you just get whatever you. Need it's a. Tutor
it's a repeatable tutor in the command zone that lets
you find probably your combat pieces that also win an,
attack gives you incremental free. Value this is like a
regavent in the command. Zone whenever he, attacks you get
a treasure and you exile the opponent's top card and
you can cast it instead of the opponent's top. Card
you just pick your best fucking card in your entire deck.
Speaker 1: And you're doing It. Interred we're making. Treasures is like
the easiest thing to possibly. Do, like if you're gonna
make some, treasures you play some red and you make
some it make some. Treasures.
Speaker 2: Yeah this this card won like a big INTERNATIONAL cdh
tournament or at One Eternal weekend In europe last year
or the year. Before didn't no. Ship yeah, yeah like
it was the deck and Then magnet jumped up in
price and everybody made all these. Decks yeah maybe that's
what this.
Speaker 1: Was there Was oh, FUCK i gotta do that SO
i can trash my.
Speaker 2: Friends, yes oh, yes SO i can trash my. Friends
this is the most powerful deck in the. World et.
Cetera but also it's a treasure, deck which people like.
Dragons it's also a dragon, deck and it's also a dwarf.
Speaker 1: Deck you play seven. Dwarfs these are of, them.
Speaker 2: Yes all seven of. Them you can play three different
creature types in this, deck, berserkers if you. Want nobody's doing.
That it's a tutor like. It it checks all of
the boxes that makes casual players players that care about
creature types or kindred DECKS cdh. Players of, course this
is number number, two.
Speaker 1: Number, Two, yes and it's not even. Close, like it's
not even. Close we have to go back to. That
it's not even close To.
Speaker 2: Cranco Mob. Boss Crank, my that's my least favorite art Of.
Speaker 1: Cranko that's the one and only extended art Treatment cranko ever.
Speaker 2: Got and he's a bald dude with like a with
enomos chin. Strapbeard.
Speaker 1: Yeah in my in nor in The, werry all cards
look as little like magic cards as. Possible this is
The Cranco Mob. Boss it's the only one that looks
sort of not like a magic. Card and, Yes i'm
pissed off about. It YES i will continue to complain
about it in my, head not out, loud except for right,
now except for writ this exact. Second, yeah and, YES
i would probably purchase a secret layer that had a
Crazy cranko in. It and, yes that goblin Fucking instagram
one should have Had cranko in. It oh, YEAH i
mean it had all the other fucking cool goblins in.
It why Wasn't cranko in?
Speaker 2: There? Stupid maybe he's found a nice partner who cranks his. Dank,
yeah he doesn't need to go On, instagram is.
Speaker 1: Just shooting even more goblins.
Speaker 2: Out oh, yeah knuckle. Goblins, yeah, yeah, yeah face goblin eyeball.
GOBLINS i don't, know, yeah got to use shampoo. Goblins.
Speaker 1: Yeah the point is crinkle mob back goblins everybody, knew you, know, like.
Speaker 2: And that makes it feel less. Special that's kind of,
sucky like, obviously, yeah he's. Good it's it's the creature.
TYPE i would, argue It's magic's creature. Type like if
you're gonna, say if, like what's the what's The i'm
gonna the word what's the? Tribe? Like what is the?
Speaker 1: TRIBE i would say PROBABLY i would say goblins are
probably like the most supported and Maybe I'm i'm out
to lunch. HERE i think the goblins are the ones
that kind of get the most love over the most.
Sets like every set has a goblin unless they have,
gremlins which should be. Goblins and then like after that
you're looking at what like elves.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Elves, yeah elves is, one murfolks is. One of,
course angels is. One humans is. One, like but those
things and none of the game, exactly none of those
are the. Deck, Yeah like there is A cranco. Deck,
Yeah and when somebody sits down and, says, oh this
is My angel, deck you don't assume this or. That
you just, say, oh who's the? Commander, COOL i haven't
seen that commander as An angel. Commander when somebody sits
down and, says, oh this is my azorious murph folk
or my simic murphok or my mono blue murfolk or
my three color, murfolk those are all different. Decks when
somebody says sits down and, says this is My cranko,
deck this is, goblins that means one. Thing if somebody
sits down and says this is A goblin, deck it
means the same. Thing, yeah because probably the commander.
Speaker 1: Is, cranco and if it's, not it probably should be
AND i hate, Which, yeah it was too fucking. Bad
it's too. Bad, yeah because him being so good and
being so, DEFACTO i think does kind of take away
from what is a really fun deck to. Play, Yeah
goblin decks are so much, fun but you kind of
unless you want to make. IT i want to, SAY
i don't say, worse but let's say it worse on.
Purpose you gotta Play, cranko gotta.
Speaker 2: Play crank my. Dank that is three universes beyond cards
in the top, ten less than a dominating fifty percent or,
more like we, Theorized.
Speaker 1: Yeah look at, us go look at look at, us
go look at universes beyond not actually taking over and
ruining the.
Speaker 2: Game, so Whether Weather blue Or red had two or, three,
yeah the maximum thus far has been, THREE i believe.
Speaker 1: So, Yes and we've only had a universes beyond card
at number one once and it was In black and Sephar.
Off oh, yes and that was more because he's like
a frickin' bunch of.
Speaker 2: Weeds. Yeah, yeah, yeah they like his total lack of
abs compared To Uncle. Brando, yes, yes how many apps
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that's a better. Number ye for a number of.
Speaker 1: Abs, Tons otherwise they'd be too.
Speaker 2: SMALL i supposed a bunch of little weird.
Speaker 1: Abs it looked LIKE i was like growing a bunch
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Speaker 1: Go final thought of the, Day final thought of the.
Day red is, awesome even If cranco makes the top
slot a little bit. Boring you're very much welcome for
Having nora And nora and i'll Say zada as well
in the top. Ten we have had enough uh positive
feedback about the arc that we will do the the
ten dual colors over the next several. Weeks it's gonna turn, out.
Speaker 2: Well what was that bonus?
Speaker 1: Idea that that? That what do we? Say just an
episode of? Treason it's. Over, Ah, no we're not doing.
COLORLESS a couple of people have asked me, that and,
no we're not. Gonna, yeah it's just going to be
naming Off El drawsis and Like mono like so we
all know that list and it didn't probably exist seven years.
Speaker 2: Ago it was three, guys, yeah and one of them.
Speaker 1: Banned so next Week Mono, green we're gonna finish it.
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