Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's
Speaker 1: and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen. It is the.
Speaker 3: One and only Tony Tone the Magician the world with
Speaker 3: a lot of play, and yes, I am a classic man,
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here again.
Speaker 3: It is a Wednesday evening, and I can tell you
Speaker 3: Creatoria is in good spirits.
Speaker 2: I love the energy. I love what's happening outside.
Speaker 3: People are happy because it has stopped raining and the
Speaker 3: sun is out. Everybody is out to have a good time.
Speaker 3: And I can definitely reassure you that golfers are probably
Speaker 3: out there on the golf courses doing what they love
Speaker 3: the most. Ladies and gentlemen, today, I don't want to
Speaker 3: light you. You definitely need listen to me. You don't
Speaker 3: just need an ice cold class of water. You need
Speaker 3: to put ice cubes inside of it because it's about
Speaker 3: to get so hot.
Speaker 2: We experienced the cloudy season.
Speaker 3: Now this week we are about to experience a lot
Speaker 3: of it. It's like the sun has been pulled closer
Speaker 3: to us because we've got a guest who's on fire.
Speaker 2: This man is making waves on the golf course.
Speaker 3: This man is doing things out there, and you will
Speaker 3: know who it is once we come back from our
Speaker 3: two minute break.
Speaker 2: So, ladies and gentlemen, let's go for the two minute break.
Speaker 3: Make sure that you get that ice cold glass of
Speaker 3: water as well as ice cubes on top. Then when
Speaker 3: we come back, you will see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: In a world where fairways meet the airwaves, where Birdie's
Speaker 1: and banker collide. Welcome to the show that takes you
Speaker 1: beyond the clubhouse and onto the green. This is Balls
Speaker 1: and Teas, your passport to the golfing universe, where every
Speaker 1: swing tells the story and every part has its punchline.
Speaker 1: Get ready to step onto the last screens and dive
Speaker 1: into the world of divids, drives and delightful better.
Speaker 4: The magician.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you for staying tuned as you
Speaker 3: know this is the one because you don't want to
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Speaker 3: you we are international. For those who are tuning in
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Speaker 3: I'm so excited, and I just want to say, be grateful,
Speaker 3: because without you, there's not us. And continue doing what
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Speaker 3: Bowls and Teas carries the legacy. So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: I promised you something. I promised you that the show
Speaker 3: is going to be extremely hot today. I hope you
Speaker 3: have made sure that you've got that ice cold class
Speaker 3: of water with ice cubes inside, because our guest is
Speaker 3: none but the only Master ogmull.
Speaker 2: Mister brother, how are you?
Speaker 4: No me, I'm I'm extremely blessed. I'm good, my brother.
Speaker 4: I can't complain, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: I can't complain on myself. I'm excited that you joined
Speaker 3: us today.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So if you were to ask me how I am,
Speaker 3: you see my face smiled, smile from it to get.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you. I can't in actually hear a three
Speaker 4: of boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So mister I tried to introduce you, but I
Speaker 3: didn't even hear drum rolls. So hopefully if you reintroduce yourself,
Speaker 3: everybody out there will understand who oim? If it is
Speaker 3: how did og get into golf? And what's happening in
Speaker 3: your space at the moment?
Speaker 4: Say sure, yeah, I don't even know where to begin, man.
Speaker 4: But I was thinking about it the other day that
Speaker 4: I've kind of grown up with with golf pretty much
Speaker 4: most of my life because my uncle used to be
Speaker 4: a caddie back in the day, and when we were kids,
Speaker 4: he used to take myself and my cousins to the
Speaker 4: driving range and at the time, I mean we would
Speaker 4: just mess around, just see the golf balls, not really
Speaker 4: with any aim of anything, you know, not even like
Speaker 4: so we were pretty much sort of self taught in
Speaker 4: in how I even sung a club and we were
Speaker 4: obviously singing my uncle's clubs, which were way too heavy
Speaker 4: for us. And but as the years went by, my
Speaker 4: cousins kind of fell away. They love football more than golf.
Speaker 4: I do. Cute still my number one passion, but but
Speaker 4: I kind of kept on playing, you know. So my
Speaker 4: uncle and I would spend quite a lot of time
Speaker 4: playing at Cruise the golf Club, which is where we
Speaker 4: were members. And and yeah, then the bag you know,
Speaker 4: sort of brit and caught when I was when I
Speaker 4: was very young, and and and somewhere along the road,
Speaker 4: I kind of like, especially when the Tertiary I kind
Speaker 4: of stopped playing, but sort of you know, rekin, look
Speaker 4: my love for the game once I once I once
Speaker 4: I started working and could afford to time my own clubs.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And and you know, I like to think that that
Speaker 3: you're mentioning that when you go to Tertiury, you sort
Speaker 3: of took a step back, and I want to It's
Speaker 3: something that's very intriguing to me to say, why is
Speaker 3: it that often enough when we get to that stage
Speaker 3: of our life, So we just decide, you know what,
Speaker 3: sports can read a bit, Let me focus on this
Speaker 3: thing instead of jacking the two.
Speaker 4: You know what I always and I think because I've
Speaker 4: had years to kind of think about it, people who
Speaker 4: went to high school with me will always tell you
Speaker 4: that at some point I thought my career path would
Speaker 4: be to become a professional golfer. But in retrospect, I
Speaker 4: realized that I didn't have the necessary knowledge. Neither did
Speaker 4: my parents or my uncle left the necessary knowledge of
Speaker 4: how to actually get me on that park. So at
Speaker 4: no point that I have a coach, At no point
Speaker 4: that I play amateur events across the country on any circuit.
Speaker 4: All I enjoyed was playing and beating the old people
Speaker 4: and having some money, like on a Sunday competition. You know.
Speaker 4: So somebody if somebody had said hey, madam don and
Speaker 4: I like, oh no, list something, and then had kind
Speaker 4: of put me on the pathway, there's a bit of
Speaker 4: structure and there's a there's a way to get to
Speaker 4: that goal, I think it might have been different, So
Speaker 4: I give it. I'm a tricky even then. I didn't
Speaker 4: know what I was going to do. I ended that up,
Speaker 4: you know, studying information technoledge because at the time somebody
Speaker 4: was like, hey, if you want to make money, that's
Speaker 4: where the mine is going to be. And and I
Speaker 4: did that and and and went to study that. But
Speaker 4: it was never really a passion of mine, you know,
Speaker 4: so I never really stuck around. I finished school, but
Speaker 4: I worked for a little bit and realized, Hora, this
Speaker 4: is not really what I want to do. So I
Speaker 4: think I kind of not even fell look off. It's
Speaker 4: just that now you find other things. You're making new friends.
Speaker 4: You you were obviously school to think about. Now you
Speaker 4: move that a home. So look where my clubs were.
Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't in every every weekend thing. So
Speaker 4: and I think over time you kind of forget about playing.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, no, no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 3: But I like the fact that you taught your elder's
Speaker 3: lessons on Sundays and yeah, but but tell me, og,
Speaker 3: I mean playing for so long and getting to meet
Speaker 3: different people, get into play different courses, like you said,
Speaker 3: Sunday competitions and all of those. I want to ask
Speaker 3: you what happens now when you get on the golf course,
Speaker 3: when you get on the first t what thoughts actually
Speaker 3: go through your mind? Do you still have the same
Speaker 3: kind of feeling that you had when you were s touching?
Speaker 3: Do you still have the same kind of feeling that
Speaker 3: you had when you got back into the.
Speaker 2: Game after Oh? Is it more like? Okay, now it's
Speaker 2: just the occasual thing.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm used to this thing and I'm
Speaker 3: going to hit this ball so so long and so straight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like there's there's there's friends of mine
Speaker 4: that I play regularly with who are actually frustrated by
Speaker 4: my game because they they know and I've seen when
Speaker 4: I put together a low around and they so, how
Speaker 4: are you not shooting in the loose seventies all the time?
Speaker 4: And and I always say, and I reached the point
Speaker 4: where I kind of stopped being hot on myself when
Speaker 4: I play like a bedground or even a bad shot.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a friend of mine, Craig Rodney want
Speaker 4: like he used to play together and jobs. Then he
Speaker 4: moved down to Cape Town and then one day said
Speaker 4: he was playing and he was a really good god
Speaker 4: for down to like a two handicap, and he said
Speaker 4: he played with this guy up into me, a psychologist,
Speaker 4: and and Craig just got so hard on himself because
Speaker 4: he knows he's a really good golfer. And the guy
Speaker 4: was like, ah, man, think about it this way, like
Speaker 4: you play this game socially. You don't get paid to play.
Speaker 4: You're not a professional, So why do you even get
Speaker 4: hort on yourself? Firstly, do you even like spend days
Speaker 4: at the driving range? Like for me, when I think
Speaker 4: about going to the driving range, now I'd rather go play.
Speaker 4: So I now accept that when I hit a bad shot.
Speaker 4: It's because I haven't really prepped to the level of
Speaker 4: where I know I can play, and I think I've
Speaker 4: got I've got such an understanding of my swing to
Speaker 4: the point where I don't get shocked when I shoot
Speaker 4: a low round, and when I shoot a bad one,
Speaker 4: I don't get down on myself. So I enjoy the
Speaker 4: game a lot more so. Even if I were to
Speaker 4: shaenk abo before, I'd be like, that's just now. Now,
Speaker 4: now you're walking to the next shot and thinking about that.
Speaker 4: Now I really let it go. I'm like, I'm blessed
Speaker 4: to play this game. I'm blessed to play some of
Speaker 4: the best golf courses around. Grandma said, be hard on
Speaker 4: myself because I'm not a pro, you know, so even
Speaker 4: and the cool thing also about now working on tour
Speaker 4: is that I see the pros hitting bad shots, and
Speaker 4: these guys spend almost every waking day of their lives
Speaker 4: practicing for this game. So if those guys can have
Speaker 4: a bad shot, NA give man like to even be
Speaker 4: hard on myself when I don't even practice, you know. So,
Speaker 4: now when I step on the t I literally enjoy it, man,
Speaker 4: So I never know and it will turn the rest
Speaker 4: of my around. Like I might strip one down the
Speaker 4: middle and it's like, oh, man, this is going to
Speaker 4: be a good day. And sometimes it doesn't even turn
Speaker 4: out today. Or I might push on hit a little
Speaker 4: snaphook and I'm like, oh, it's going to be a
Speaker 4: long day, and then for all you know, I end
Speaker 4: up turning level or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So, so I've learned to not to be too hard
Speaker 4: on myself to play this game.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: No, now, I mean you mentioned that at the moment,
Speaker 3: it's not about about being high on yourself. But the
Speaker 3: key question here is do you still get nervous when
Speaker 3: you play in competitions or let's say competitive games.
Speaker 2: Do you do you do you get nervous? And how
Speaker 2: do you actually ceher your nets? Do you?
Speaker 3: I mean, every single player has their own routinees to say, Okay,
Speaker 3: before you get into this thing, I'm just gonna focus
Speaker 3: on my party and then push everything out of my mind.
Speaker 3: Some would say, listen, when I address the ball, I
Speaker 3: will just take the club, grip it, do multiple practice strings.
Speaker 3: So how do you actually exercise the thought of getting
Speaker 3: rid of your nets?
Speaker 4: Ah? Man? Like, I think the nerves are always there
Speaker 4: after traveling for a long time, Like I hadn't played
Speaker 4: clap Champs for for quite a long time. So last
Speaker 4: year I got I got an opportunity because I had
Speaker 4: a window that weekends I played clap Champs. And it
Speaker 4: was crazy how nervous are got. But it's because you know,
Speaker 4: what is it they? You know, like like they literally
Speaker 4: every shot counts, you know, and and and it's hard
Speaker 4: to control those nerves when when when you also haven't
Speaker 4: like I said, you haven't practiced, you haven't really you know,
Speaker 4: knuckled down on how to handle them. So for me,
Speaker 4: I often find when I actually don't overthink this game
Speaker 4: is when I actually play my best. So even when
Speaker 4: I feel them, I most often don't even hate a
Speaker 4: practice shot because I think I want to replicate that
Speaker 4: and then I don't quite do it. So especially on
Speaker 4: the first team, I will literally peg it up, loosen
Speaker 4: myself and just smash. Depending what's saying. Hopefully, if I'm
Speaker 4: losing enough, it becomes a good one. You know that.
Speaker 4: But I also I also thrive on on making people
Speaker 4: say wow. So for me, when they people on the
Speaker 4: tea box, yeah, when I'm on the T box, I
Speaker 4: actually get excited more than nervous. I'm like, hey, to
Speaker 4: give up, Like I can actually hit a ball, so
Speaker 4: that kind of settles the nerves. I get a little
Speaker 4: bit cotty. And if I hit a bad run. I
Speaker 4: mean it's not all the time that, but I actually
Speaker 4: feel off that nervous energy and and and I know
Speaker 4: if I don't do too much, don't overthink it, and
Speaker 4: if everything is a line that really plays the ball
Speaker 4: exactly where it should be. My swing is so repetitive,
Speaker 4: like there's nothing that changes in my swing for for
Speaker 4: years now, so I know if I just pick it
Speaker 4: up and then swing the club, if I'm loosing up,
Speaker 4: I know it's going to be good. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I like your confidence.
Speaker 3: I wish I was like you because you see, the
Speaker 3: thing with me is that whenever I'm on the tea box,
Speaker 3: I actually like being lost because I want to see, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's happening, what's this guy going to do? And then
Speaker 3: if they're all good shots that I know I'm in
Speaker 3: the right place because I feel of that energy to say, okay,
Speaker 3: now now the rhythm is back.
Speaker 2: And then but I still do those two things.
Speaker 3: And like you said, if you, if you, if you
Speaker 3: do a practicing, you want to replicate it, and sometimes
Speaker 3: it doesn't work the way that you want.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I start beating myself.
Speaker 4: I know very well. So not for another The opposite
Speaker 4: is I hope I said like a good president so
Speaker 4: that they see. But more than anything, I hope it
Speaker 4: puts them under pressure to say, yeah, you said one.
Speaker 4: You know. But obviously if I if I push the
Speaker 4: drive like but I like to be the first one up,
Speaker 4: it just gets.
Speaker 2: Out all right.
Speaker 3: Now, Now let's talk about the rest of the game,
Speaker 3: like the entire cost management.
Speaker 2: Right, Uh what what?
Speaker 3: What is your ideal approach or what do you think
Speaker 3: is an ideal approach overall? When getting into into the
Speaker 3: game itself to say, okay, this is a round of golf,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play an eighteen. Do you go aggressive from
Speaker 3: the get go? Or would it depends on, like you said,
Speaker 3: what's at stake? Or do you just play the same
Speaker 3: type of game over and over again with the mindset
Speaker 3: of saying, this is the way I play, and I'm
Speaker 3: not going to put a lot of pressure on myself
Speaker 3: just to try to achieve something better than what I'm
Speaker 3: used to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it also depends on the game like
Speaker 4: if it's a social round, and I probably don't. I
Speaker 4: think I play a lot on my golf because I'm
Speaker 4: a member. Johannes Burger played there, So like there's there's
Speaker 4: holes where I know, for instance, that you can get
Speaker 4: around without hitting a driver, Like the first hole is
Speaker 4: a is a short is part five, So if you
Speaker 4: hit a good driver, you can get then too. But
Speaker 4: if you actually off with a foe im and you
Speaker 4: hit a layup of the eight, You're going to have
Speaker 4: like a sandwich in and the number of times and
Speaker 4: I'm like, when I get to the course today, that's
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. Just hit a four I and
Speaker 4: then I'll think like River, like I actually now forget
Speaker 4: the let me pull out the driver. So even my
Speaker 4: own player for the Boe part God, and there's a
Speaker 4: lot of holes there where I know, like you do
Speaker 4: not necessarily have to hit driver. But also what what
Speaker 4: what then? I think about sometimes when I get in
Speaker 4: the box, I'm like, okay, I did think about how
Speaker 4: I'm gonna actually play this whole, but let me actually
Speaker 4: see what is my shape for today with the driver?
Speaker 4: Now if I push a driver, I don't mind because
Speaker 4: I can play for that and just aim a little
Speaker 4: bit left. But if I start to hit the snap hook,
Speaker 4: then I know I'm gonna leave the driver and I'm
Speaker 4: hit through it all day. So even though sometimes I
Speaker 4: think I'm not gonna start off with the driver, it
Speaker 4: kind of tells me what sort of shots tape I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be playing for the day. And if I do
Speaker 4: that for two drives in a row and it's not
Speaker 4: what I want, I often just put it back because
Speaker 4: if you just force it the entire time, by the
Speaker 4: time you wake up, it's hard if you can't find
Speaker 4: the failways because now you're literally bringing the bogies and
Speaker 4: the double into play. So the one thing I've learned,
Speaker 4: like like following and playing with a lot of pros,
Speaker 4: is that try to limit the damage as much as possible.
Speaker 4: So if you think and there really isn't a gap,
Speaker 4: sometimes there's nothing wrong with punching the ball out sideways.
Speaker 4: You might hit a brilliant third shot, get yourself closed
Speaker 4: and walk from the park. At worst you come up
Speaker 4: with a bull no clary. The ball comes back now
Speaker 4: staring unnecessarily, you know. So sometimes I think as amateurs
Speaker 4: we need to learn and to to kind of take
Speaker 4: the medicine a lot more than we do.
Speaker 2: But tell me, since you mentioned.
Speaker 3: Arter, do you regularly have this what if moments to say,
Speaker 3: if I had if I had done this, if I
Speaker 3: hit this club.
Speaker 2: Do you regularly have those or is it just in
Speaker 2: a long while that it happens.
Speaker 4: Nah, I think every golfer does. I think, like, especially
Speaker 4: if you play Coastal Gold of because for us, like
Speaker 4: it's completely different like playing up here things. So there
Speaker 4: you kind of question yourself a lot because you might
Speaker 4: under club, you might overclub, and then you think about
Speaker 4: it actually just hit this iron or that other iron.
Speaker 4: But generally like and it's also like, because I'm friends
Speaker 4: with a lot of professional caddies, you start to think
Speaker 4: about just safety on a golf course. So you don't
Speaker 4: necessarily necessarily have to go for every pin. You don't
Speaker 4: necessarily have to be like to attack everything. If you
Speaker 4: can tell who this pain has been tagged front right,
Speaker 4: and there's definitely like a penalty area on the right.
Speaker 4: Hold on, let me see there's a banker that if
Speaker 4: you go in you're gonna shortside yourself. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with going for the middle of the green. You might
Speaker 4: think a long one or you took part for a
Speaker 4: past So that's if there's one thing that's changed over
Speaker 4: the last few years for me, it's there to say
Speaker 4: like miss on the right out side, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So even if if if the pen is
Speaker 4: at the back, or even if it's front right like,
Speaker 4: I will now think what is the number I need
Speaker 4: to cover all the problems? So if there's water, if
Speaker 4: I have to go over water, what is the club
Speaker 4: that will make it safely over there? And then I'm
Speaker 4: as that will be there, that will be the base.
Speaker 4: But if now the pin is way at the back,
Speaker 4: that means I must just take an extra you know.
Speaker 4: So having safety first is kind of what I've kind
Speaker 4: of tried to do over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: So try to just take all the danger out of play.
Speaker 4: Then then it makes the game. I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: an easy game, but it just helps you out to
Speaker 4: put bit more.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's that's one hundred.
Speaker 3: You know, I hate you saying something about a path
Speaker 3: five and no, you know, I didn't want to ask
Speaker 3: this question, but it seems like you don't just hit
Speaker 3: that ball, you you destroy it. So you you mentioned
Speaker 3: a four time and an eight times to lay up yeah.
Speaker 2: On a part five? So how long do you your
Speaker 2: four eye?
Speaker 4: No? No? And and this is the thing right, So
Speaker 4: so I'm not a long driver by any stretch of
Speaker 4: the imagination. I think I play with some corlas like
Speaker 4: some of my friends hit a stupid ball. But I
Speaker 4: know if if if I if I hit my full
Speaker 4: iron properly, I can hit it two hundred meters, you know.
Speaker 4: And if I hit it properly, I go dads too.
Speaker 4: So I find the target and I hate that point.
Speaker 4: If I catch it properly, it will go two hundred.
Speaker 4: So if you, if I think about I think that
Speaker 4: it could be like four fifty four sixty. So if
Speaker 4: I've covered that initial two hundred, I've got to sixty
Speaker 4: to go. And then if I play, I want sixty
Speaker 4: shot that hit myself I had so I haven't touched
Speaker 4: the driver, but I've still got myself on the green
Speaker 4: in regulation, you know. And and so sometimes that's what
Speaker 4: we think a shpid drive and I need to hit
Speaker 4: it like to eighty three hundred where if you get
Speaker 4: yourself in play, and the one for me, like my
Speaker 4: my favorite club in my bag is my hybrid three
Speaker 4: and I can. I can literally control the distance anywhere
Speaker 4: from say two hundred to twenty maybe if I really
Speaker 4: squeeze it like to twenty five to THI but I
Speaker 4: know I can constantly hit it too twenty. So if
Speaker 4: I'm in play and then I and it's a shortish
Speaker 4: per five and I can all I need to cover
Speaker 4: is like two hundred or two twins, then I can
Speaker 4: pull out the hybrid. But and I say all these
Speaker 4: things in the heat at the moment, sometimes I just
Speaker 4: pull out driver and then just mess it up anyway.
Speaker 4: But ideally, I know that you can set up for im,
Speaker 4: I can at least get to two hundred metres, which
Speaker 4: is on most holes, you're kind of like halfway there.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't help you that much if it's a
Speaker 4: power four because if it's if it's it's founder two hours,
Speaker 4: so it's for twenty and halve left myself for two
Speaker 4: twenty short coming in the likelihood that our I will
Speaker 4: squeeze that hybrid perfectly, it's probably five out of ten times.
Speaker 4: So if I can leave myself anywhere between my mid
Speaker 4: irons to my wages, that's that's gold. But but yeah,
Speaker 4: and you get in the ideal situation, that's what I
Speaker 4: should do. But for the for the most part, sometimes I.
Speaker 3: Drive.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, so I don't hear it long, but
Speaker 4: I can hit my dreds.
Speaker 2: It's just like that that sound that.
Speaker 4: Goes as sat. No, it's a game, you know when
Speaker 4: the boat drike is so pure. I after all the year.
Speaker 3: Now now I want to ask you something. And you
Speaker 3: excuse me for asking this, because you sound like someone
Speaker 3: who understands exactly what club they hit toward distance and
Speaker 3: how you manage them. Would you mind taking us through
Speaker 3: your golf back to say, okay, these are the clubs
Speaker 3: I regularly have in my golf back and then yes,
Speaker 3: so should be there. These are the ones that not
Speaker 3: I think can ever stop me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So I've got in my bag, and
Speaker 4: so I've got a full titles bag. So I've got
Speaker 4: a GT three driver eleven degree left and like, I'm
Speaker 4: not alone driver, so I can hit it like two
Speaker 4: fifty two sixty, you know, and comfortably so like and
Speaker 4: then like and then a school. Then then I've got
Speaker 4: a threw in the bag as well. Three would and
Speaker 4: at times if I really catch it, I can hit
Speaker 4: the three as long as my drive but generally I
Speaker 4: can hit it like two forty and then I'm comfortable.
Speaker 4: My hybrid, like I said, is my favorite club in
Speaker 4: my bag because I know, like I like, I hardly
Speaker 4: hardly missed, like unless if I hit it badly, it
Speaker 4: means I just didn't commit to the swim. And that's
Speaker 4: that's usually what happens matter. If I commit to it,
Speaker 4: like nine out of ten times, it's going to come
Speaker 4: out pure. So the hybrid three is a ts R.
Speaker 4: I should be probably fitting into a titleist GT hybrid
Speaker 4: sometimes soon when we get some time. And then in
Speaker 4: my irons, I've got from pitching wage to a four iron.
Speaker 4: I've got T one fifty titlest irons. Yeah, so so
Speaker 4: I mean my my wages are vokey wages. So I've
Speaker 4: got a sixty degree I've got a fifty four degree
Speaker 4: and forty eight degree game wage as well. And Scotty
Speaker 4: Cameron seven point five patterns. So my pattern thirty four inches,
Speaker 4: I just carried from thirty five to thirty four. That yeah,
Speaker 4: when it's on soong, I box every day, like I
Speaker 4: just like the light angle on it and it's and
Speaker 4: it's me hey, patters me. It's a shelter about. So
Speaker 4: the one thing, even though practice a lot, the one
Speaker 4: thing when we go on to what I now try
Speaker 4: to do is at least take my wages and my pattern.
Speaker 4: So just from around the green, if you can save
Speaker 4: your shots with your short game, that's where that's where
Speaker 4: I think, that's where the money maker really is. Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to pure my eyes all the time,
Speaker 4: so I might find myself somewhere just around the green.
Speaker 4: So what I'll do, like when we do have a
Speaker 4: gap in between tournaments, maybe for like ten minutes, I'll
Speaker 4: just go chip chip And also now going with like
Speaker 4: the fortunate thing about working with like on tour is
Speaker 4: that you might find a pro operate design and then
Speaker 4: they see you doing something they be like, why don't
Speaker 4: you try this? And then you try it and then
Speaker 4: it works. I played a practice around behindred brainers go
Speaker 4: oh by, and and he literally made me change one
Speaker 4: small thing, and now like my chipping is like so good.
Speaker 4: I'm happy with where it's at because I know now
Speaker 4: my distance control around the greens. I can either log
Speaker 4: it up or I can pitch and run it. And
Speaker 4: that just comes with pure practice. And then I can
Speaker 4: go back to like I can plays like if you
Speaker 4: can practice definitely makes you better. So because I can't
Speaker 4: spend a lot of time doing it. When I find
Speaker 4: the gap, I gotta focus on the short game. So
Speaker 4: so the patting stroke new skill can help me out
Speaker 4: that the padding stroke, like if I do the basics
Speaker 4: that he showed me and I've read it correctly and
Speaker 4: can figure out the pace of the greens, like I
Speaker 4: make the pads and generally that's my entire pay pretty.
Speaker 3: Much, no fantastic h Like you said, uh you you
Speaker 3: you you ran ran into your pro and then he
Speaker 3: just gave you a small tip. But I just want
Speaker 3: to find out for someone who spends a lot of
Speaker 3: time on how imperative eat is it to practice? How
Speaker 3: often do you practice? And is it just the physical
Speaker 3: kind of practice or is there like mental coaching and
Speaker 3: all those things.
Speaker 4: Look, I mean for for us as amateurs, unless I
Speaker 4: don't know you really taking the game seriously, like you'll
Speaker 4: hardly ever see us going to see a mentor coach.
Speaker 4: But let's let's talk from a professional place point of view.
Speaker 4: I think these days you're finding the big guys on
Speaker 4: on say the Love Tour, PGA Tour TP to have
Speaker 4: an entire team around them. So they'll have a guy
Speaker 4: who's the physical trainer, they actually my sues with them,
Speaker 4: and they'll have the golf coach in the team, will
Speaker 4: have a mental coach in the team, they really big boys,
Speaker 4: will have someone who tasts care of nutrition as well.
Speaker 4: And so when they really say these days, for I
Speaker 4: travel with my team, that it's generally those people that
Speaker 4: are with them. And it makes sense because you think
Speaker 4: about it from a physical standpoint. I think you know,
Speaker 4: ever since guys like VJ. Seing and and Tager would
Speaker 4: showed people like you can actually train and become strong
Speaker 4: to play the game. The generation they are now compared
Speaker 4: to the older guys, you find them a lot in
Speaker 4: the gym, and there's golf specific training, which is why
Speaker 4: these days you're finding a lot of guys, even personal
Speaker 4: trainers who are just specifically golf trainers, so they will
Speaker 4: help you work the necessary muscles for your sings. So
Speaker 4: fellow look up an Alemo took a Blendet Fitness said
Speaker 4: the cheap you one way, and it's messing up what
Speaker 4: you're saying. You know, don't just go there somebody bench
Speaker 4: present thing. I'm going to hear it, treat it, and
Speaker 4: and so those guys literally have their entire team sort
Speaker 4: of looking after. As an amateur, I think if you
Speaker 4: really want to get good, you have to practice, like
Speaker 4: if you want to take yourself from a double digit
Speaker 4: handicap to a single handicap, and the years playing rounds
Speaker 4: of golf is going to I mean, I've been in
Speaker 4: schools well for the last five years. He's been an
Speaker 4: eighteen and a nineteen handicap over five years. Joe, you
Speaker 4: play golf every single week, Like, at what point to
Speaker 4: a personally, whay when do you personally want to get better?
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's not bad to actually go and invest
Speaker 4: in seeing a PGA professional who can help you out.
Speaker 4: And the pg of South has got some great coaches
Speaker 4: like across across a lot of golf courses. You know,
Speaker 4: if we are going and maybe get a package, get
Speaker 4: just six lessons because also the other problem with us
Speaker 4: is that when you're playing and you're you're you're actually
Speaker 4: practicing bad habits all the time. That's why you're not
Speaker 4: going to get better because whatever you're doing is obviously
Speaker 4: not the right thing for you to lower your score.
Speaker 4: So if you can get a second pair of eyes
Speaker 4: that the person can be like no man, and especially
Speaker 4: if you can find someone who's not completely going to
Speaker 4: overhaul your sting madam, going is at the top of
Speaker 4: your sing, your hands maybe are out of position or
Speaker 4: when you striking the ball, you you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: one time at least work on this one thing that
Speaker 4: will help you out so that if you can go
Speaker 4: see a PGA pro can help you out with that.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, spend time. I mean, it depends also
Speaker 4: on on your flexibility. But if you can't spend at
Speaker 4: least an hour in a week you practicing and don't
Speaker 4: just hit balls, go bagging range because you can shopping
Speaker 4: Packett to Shanka Fader. But if you have found if
Speaker 4: somebody and can like work on this, so when I
Speaker 4: do have time to go to a range, I can
Speaker 4: say bag I might be like, I've actually been struggling
Speaker 4: with my driver, so I'll just take maybe a wedge,
Speaker 4: a seven nine and my drive. So I'm gonna take
Speaker 4: the wedge and a seven nine to warm up and
Speaker 4: then the rest of the day I'll just hit the
Speaker 4: drive until I find what I'm looking for. So instead
Speaker 4: of just running through the entire bag with like aimlessly
Speaker 4: hitting balls, that's not really gonna help you, but as amateurs,
Speaker 4: for us to get better, you absolutely have to practice. Also,
Speaker 4: Like I've got a friend who's he's really improved, like
Speaker 4: literally gone maybe from like a twenty five twenty four
Speaker 4: handicaper to like a twelve you know, back to this
Speaker 4: day he struggles to get out of a bank. Put
Speaker 4: him in a greenside bank, and I se all it
Speaker 4: will take for you is literally go see someone get
Speaker 4: the technique, and then literally spend spend, spend your time
Speaker 4: at the range, just take your your love wage and
Speaker 4: just go hit banker shots for an hour. You know,
Speaker 4: true matter if you don't practice it and the problem
Speaker 4: gets to a point and he will approach a greenated
Speaker 4: in the banker. Now what's you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because now you're not even thinking get to the pain.
Speaker 4: You're thinking, don't go in the banker. Now you're already
Speaker 4: negatively thinking before you even hit the ball. But if
Speaker 4: you actually spend the time to go and and practice
Speaker 4: those banker shots, so even if you don't quite strike
Speaker 4: the ball as well as you would have hoped to
Speaker 4: end up in a banker, you're not fearing because you know,
Speaker 4: you've practiced it and so you can go and execute.
Speaker 4: So I think for amateurs it's important for us to
Speaker 4: find someone that can look at you, try to fix you.
Speaker 4: I mean they're never going to overhould your entire game,
Speaker 4: but try to actually help you for you to get better.
Speaker 4: And then the better you play, the more you actually
Speaker 4: enjoy the game.
Speaker 3: To be one, because I mean, who wants to have
Speaker 3: constant bedds on the gold course?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Hmm, now one hundred percent og.
Speaker 3: Can we go for a two minute break, Let's get
Speaker 3: let's get some refreshments, and then we come back. We
Speaker 3: still got to drill into a lot of things, submitting
Speaker 3: to God because golf is your life and golf is
Speaker 3: both pous andees. So let's go for the two b
Speaker 3: break and then we come back. Let's go deep.
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Speaker 3: so long, but hey, things are not happening. I got
Speaker 3: tips today to say, do something about it. Because it's
Speaker 3: not just about hitting the ball or playing around the
Speaker 3: patting green.
Speaker 2: There's I've got strong points, guys. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: There's places where I know I execute, especially on the green.
Speaker 2: But cetain things. I got got that comment mister, if
Speaker 2: I used.
Speaker 4: To need it, no, And and that's the thing like
Speaker 4: and you must maximize on the strong points matter. You
Speaker 4: also know if I if I know, I'm a good partner,
Speaker 4: but let me give myself the best opportunity to them
Speaker 4: make those parts in the tally p not that, so
Speaker 4: then fix the rest of the other stuff and then
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Speaker 3: Mmhmm, no hundred per Now you you you you You've
Speaker 3: given us a few tips. You've let us know how
Speaker 3: how your golf back looks like. But I want to
Speaker 3: ask more in depth questions. Right, So, obviously when one
Speaker 3: plays golf, it's either you're playing with your friends or
Speaker 3: you're playing in a competitive setting where there's a price. Now,
Speaker 3: your approach to golf overall, if we look at the
Speaker 3: risk and what which one do you usually go for?
Speaker 3: Do you go for taking those risks? Like you said,
Speaker 3: you don't want to hit a three instead of punching
Speaker 3: the ball out, and sometimes you are actually putting a
Speaker 3: position where you just want to pull out your driver
Speaker 3: although you plan for a four. Im So I'm kind
Speaker 3: of complicted to say which side are you falling for?
Speaker 3: Are you going for the risk or are you just
Speaker 3: going for the what? I'm playing it safe all the time.
Speaker 4: And I guess it depends on the setting. So if
Speaker 4: if we're playing in a program and we're kind of challenge,
Speaker 4: I'll probably take less risks because then I can kind
Speaker 4: of knock it around to say spot. But also sometimes
Speaker 4: playing too safe can also be detrimental. You know, if
Speaker 4: it's and it also I guess it depends on the
Speaker 4: type of day you're having. I mean, if if I
Speaker 4: am two under three and after five six holes, the
Speaker 4: conference is up, so I'm probably going to take more
Speaker 4: risks than if I'm three four over after six holes,
Speaker 4: you know, And because now it means like I can
Speaker 4: like I'm thinking, the swing feels groovy, so I know
Speaker 4: all I have to do is get the number point
Speaker 4: where I want the ball to go, and I'm hitting
Speaker 4: it there. So if I know, and and it also depends.
Speaker 4: So for instance, I am a good fade out of
Speaker 4: the ball, but I struggle doing I mean, I'm afraid,
Speaker 4: I'm a good fraid of the ball, but I struggle
Speaker 4: hitting a So if I'm playing a dog leg left
Speaker 4: and I've got a good number that then I know
Speaker 4: if I can execute a draw and I will be
Speaker 4: probably close to the pain to give myself a good
Speaker 4: look at a bertie. I'm not going to take that
Speaker 4: risk because I know I don't confidently pull off a draw.
Speaker 4: But if I'm on the opposite side it's a dog
Speaker 4: leg right and I've got a little branch in front
Speaker 4: of me, and I know, just take an extra club
Speaker 4: open it up, hit the fade. Nine out of ten
Speaker 4: times I know how to execute a faith So there
Speaker 4: I will definitely take the risk as compared to me
Speaker 4: having to draw the ball into maybe a back left pin.
Speaker 4: So it really depends on the situation and and and
Speaker 4: what you're playing for. So if it's as if it's
Speaker 4: if it's a money game and there's something on the line,
Speaker 4: and maybe more likely to take less risks. But if
Speaker 4: even if it's a money game and I'm really you know,
Speaker 4: I can pull off the shot now, then definitely the
Speaker 4: high risk, that is what I'll go for.
Speaker 3: Mhm, No, one hundred. You know, I've been asking so
Speaker 3: many questions about your game. I'm sure your competitors who
Speaker 3: are listening or people that you actually play with now
Speaker 3: they take in those to say, this is how we
Speaker 3: uh get the.
Speaker 2: More this game.
Speaker 3: This is how we actually uh encourage him to play better.
Speaker 3: So let's not share too many secrets. Does yeah, no,
Speaker 3: what no, guys, you know what in the deepp that's
Speaker 3: where everything goes downhill, So let's let's not let's not go.
Speaker 4: Into exactly.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now with that being.
Speaker 3: For those who don't know, there's the ol g Molifa Foundation, Right, yeah,
Speaker 3: So I don't know if if you'd mind sharing with
Speaker 3: our audience what O Glifa Foundation is about and what
Speaker 3: exactly you guys are do there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no problem. So, I mean I've been
Speaker 4: covering sport now for twenty one years as a journalist
Speaker 4: and over the time I've covered a lot of golf
Speaker 4: tournaments and especially the big ones that come here, and
Speaker 4: generally you would find, and you know, just before a
Speaker 4: tournament and a code sentioned one they have like a
Speaker 4: clinic the cities on Carci and and it would then
Speaker 4: be termed as golf development, you know. And then the
Speaker 4: next year comes and then the same thing is done
Speaker 4: and they'll be like our tournament X is helping to
Speaker 4: grow the game with the clinic. And then you ask yourself, okay,
Speaker 4: hab a nababata from the clinic, what happens for the
Speaker 4: next year that is actually aiding the development and some
Speaker 4: for the most part, you find nothing really happens after that,
Speaker 4: you know, and to be maybe the same case or
Speaker 4: different group of kids that come back the following year.
Speaker 4: But you keep asking the questions, Okay, what are we
Speaker 4: really doing, like in terms of developing and growing the game.
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of there's
Speaker 4: a lot of good being done by like Golf psay,
Speaker 4: but there's a Golf Development Board and like and a
Speaker 4: bunch of us in little pockets that are just trying
Speaker 4: to grow the game. But I guess I got tired
Speaker 4: of sort of asking the questions what are these people doing?
Speaker 4: And then I kind of thought, but what am I
Speaker 4: doing to help? You know, my profession has kind of
Speaker 4: put me in places where I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people in the golf industry and and I could use
Speaker 4: sort of my influence to try and help grow the
Speaker 4: game in some way. So there's a friend of mine,
Speaker 4: Aaron Russell, used to work for Tailor Made back in
Speaker 4: the day. So him and I one day were just
Speaker 4: sitting having a conversation and I'm like, Aaron, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm actually I want to help out to grow the game,
Speaker 4: but I don't know how. Then he's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: like a Tailor Made, we've got like a lot of
Speaker 4: stock that we don't sell, and we sometimes I just
Speaker 4: don't know what to do with the stuff. So maybe
Speaker 4: let's why don't you start something and we'll help you
Speaker 4: and we'll give you stuff. And then and literally the
Speaker 4: day after that, I get a call from Nilo Rnello's
Speaker 4: from Mirror Lens, you know, and he said to me, Angia,
Speaker 4: there's a group of guys go Mirror Lanz goes on
Speaker 4: Through's who've asked me to help them out. Couple or
Speaker 4: they've got this field. But when I was there, you know,
Speaker 4: they've got golf as well, but they literally have nothing.
Speaker 4: You know, can you have out? Yeah, so you're going
Speaker 4: and oh what not? You know, like this is so
Speaker 4: God sent because literally just not buying it. I was
Speaker 4: talking to someone about this thing. So for me that
Speaker 4: kind of said, okay, I this thing is real. I
Speaker 4: think starts something. And that's essentially how the old Malifa
Speaker 4: Foundation was birth. Then we started helping Bisa Coma Lenza
Speaker 4: and his kids there, so getting equipment, helping them, you know,
Speaker 4: with a bit of coaching would sometimes take some of
Speaker 4: the sunshine. Told professionals to go give lessons there, and
Speaker 4: but also to run these programs kind of needs money,
Speaker 4: you know, and and and so we started. Then we
Speaker 4: with like any fund raised at the time. It's just
Speaker 4: like in twenty eighteen we did a golf day what
Speaker 4: it would say, we need to raise a bit of
Speaker 4: money and and sort of help them leave their kids,
Speaker 4: because then we could buy them a bit of clothes,
Speaker 4: we could help pay for their green fees, target membership
Speaker 4: for the kids and and stuff like that. Then we
Speaker 4: we I think in twenty nineteen you raised quite a
Speaker 4: bit of money. We were able to build them a
Speaker 4: library because at the time we were also thinking, even
Speaker 4: though we're teaching them golf, but like, like you'd know,
Speaker 4: like the chances of a kid turning pro are like
Speaker 4: so small, so let's not give the kids like false hope,
Speaker 4: but let's also try and aid them, maybe even with
Speaker 4: a better education. So we reached out to the Housing
Speaker 4: Department of Education. They have to start with some treatas.
Speaker 4: So over the weekend the extra lesson Indiana and COVID
Speaker 4: hit so one. When COVID hit, like a lot of
Speaker 4: our staff just went p shape. Like the one good
Speaker 4: thing was that at least the kids had a space
Speaker 4: where they could go and still do some sort of
Speaker 4: work and the online classes, you know, so that that
Speaker 4: space sort of help. But the golf kind of went
Speaker 4: down a little bit. But you continue to do the
Speaker 4: of the Indiana and there is manning. Over the years,
Speaker 4: we've had sponsors that have come on board to help
Speaker 4: us out, and now we've also branched out to sort
Speaker 4: of find kids who are who were very talented, especially
Speaker 4: those at the junior level. So say, give or take
Speaker 4: kids between fourteen to like eighteen years old who can
Speaker 4: actually play that we don't necessarily need to first teach
Speaker 4: them out of play, but they just don't have the
Speaker 4: resources to compete in golfer say events across the country,
Speaker 4: because now there's cost the coming to play, so traveling flights,
Speaker 4: a rental car and they get there, or uber to
Speaker 4: pay for caddy, to pay for communt fees to get
Speaker 4: food and all of that. So now we're helping a
Speaker 4: few amateurs with that and we're seeing a bit of
Speaker 4: success because what that does is alleviates the problems of
Speaker 4: them having to worry about those things and all they
Speaker 4: must worry about is sort of just just playing golf.
Speaker 4: And we're just trying to grow the game in that
Speaker 4: way to try and help those kids who are talented
Speaker 4: and get to you a point where they can compete
Speaker 4: and then equal footing with with privileged kids. So now
Speaker 4: what we'll do as well we're working with THEO, who's
Speaker 4: a mental coach. I told you about the pros having teams,
Speaker 4: so we're kind of building a team of our own,
Speaker 4: even though we don't make the kids change. So if
Speaker 4: you come go aim and also again coachure and we'll
Speaker 4: be like, that's fine if you're happy they stay there.
Speaker 4: If you need us to supplement in terms of paying
Speaker 4: him for the services or her for the services, will
Speaker 4: do that. We'll offer you the services that THEO to say.
Speaker 4: THEO works with a lot of deep to a players
Speaker 4: and chant tour player, so from a golf mental perspective,
Speaker 4: he's ready crewed up, so you can work with him
Speaker 4: if you need. We're probably just working now on on
Speaker 4: on a possible deal the Planet Fitness where if they
Speaker 4: do then need access to a gym, once we found
Speaker 4: them a trainer, they can give them a program. We're
Speaker 4: working on a deal with play Fitness where they can
Speaker 4: then get there and train for free type of thing.
Speaker 4: So we're trying to put those things into place just
Speaker 4: to help the kids on their journey to become improved,
Speaker 4: but also not to you know, because it's really tough.
Speaker 4: I mean, I see I see kids who can sort
Speaker 4: of play quickly turn pro and they get to the
Speaker 4: pro level and they realize, hey, it's a different kettle
Speaker 4: of fish. Yeah, and they struggle and just like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's tough. So you want to get them prepared and
Speaker 4: ready for a tour life for it like it can
Speaker 4: be as easy as possible. But if if we get
Speaker 4: those who think, hey, maybe I do need school and
Speaker 4: then may go study a PGA qualification while I still
Speaker 4: play and see where I end up, and we may
Speaker 4: may be able to help them in So the foundation
Speaker 4: has changed a lot over the past seven years. But but essentially,
Speaker 4: like in a nutshell, we just we just want to
Speaker 4: continue to grow the game, and especially for for like
Speaker 4: black kids, you know, the kids g gassiyeh kids even
Speaker 4: not even those that don't necessarily left Gucassi, but they
Speaker 4: just don't have the equal opportunities that the account apout.
Speaker 3: You know, OG, I have to say something as you're speaking,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm feeling, but whatever it is
Speaker 3: i'm feeling, I think it's just to say thank you
Speaker 3: for what you're doing. And I believe our audience has
Speaker 3: shares the same sentiments. But one question I want to
Speaker 3: ask you when do you sleepy?
Speaker 4: But hey, that's a tough one, man, you know, And
Speaker 4: and that's the let's a hard part is that already
Speaker 4: it's a hard one because already, like on tour, we
Speaker 4: I mean for now, let me say for like for now,
Speaker 4: For instance, I've been on a stretch of six straight weeks.
Speaker 4: This week our tournament got canceled because it got drained out.
Speaker 4: So it means I've got a couple of extra days
Speaker 4: at least to see my own kids, you know, take
Speaker 4: them to school for a change, and and just be home,
Speaker 4: which has really been great. But it's hard to find
Speaker 4: time to see because I'll go to work, get span
Speaker 4: and gets spined because I still have to provide for
Speaker 4: my kids. So I've got a job that I need
Speaker 4: to do, you know, And then you get up the
Speaker 4: job and then you find hey, I've got emails now
Speaker 4: to deal with the foundation because now there's kids that
Speaker 4: need to go somewhere, There's that we need to pay for,
Speaker 4: there's there's proposals that we need to submit, and there's
Speaker 4: gold days to plan. And now two years ago we
Speaker 4: started doing one in k Town and it's kind of growing.
Speaker 4: And then people are like, why don't you come to
Speaker 4: one in Devin. So this year we go in to
Speaker 4: Dewin as well. But that just adds to the load
Speaker 4: of the work that then I have to do. So
Speaker 4: I you know, I think there's a point where hey man,
Speaker 4: you know there's a point Last year I think I
Speaker 4: was I was just like depleted. My energy was just down,
Speaker 4: like and I said to someone on my page, Joe,
Speaker 4: you know what, I think, I'm ready to stop like
Speaker 4: this foundation stuff because I just don't have the time.
Speaker 4: I don't have the energy. And I was I was
Speaker 4: ready to throw the like literally throwing the towel. But
Speaker 4: I woke up the next days same thing, Like if
Speaker 4: I don't do it, like, who's going to do it?
Speaker 4: You know, And there's so much work that needs to
Speaker 4: be done. I'm hoping one day or someone got a pleasure.
Speaker 4: Can you gain enough of that I can build a
Speaker 4: team where I don't necessarily have to be too hands
Speaker 4: on for stuff to happen. But until we get to
Speaker 4: that point, yeah, we very slip chain. It's it's not
Speaker 4: existent for the most part.
Speaker 3: But speaking of blessing, I don't know how can people
Speaker 3: actually reach out to the OG Foundation.
Speaker 4: The easiest way is possibly social media as you can
Speaker 4: drop us an email og at foundation dot org. It's
Speaker 4: it's probably the easiest way to reach out to us.
Speaker 4: And and and when you give me that platform, let
Speaker 4: me say sometimes it's great people want to help. I'd
Speaker 4: like to help. Okay, guy, And then like they're like
Speaker 4: anything when you say that, like you're not really how
Speaker 4: you know? But Tony, if you come to me prior,
Speaker 4: I run a marketing agency, can I do your marketing
Speaker 4: for your thing? I can then say, now we've got
Speaker 4: a starting point bubble or hey, Brian Spanning span got CSI,
Speaker 4: we've got a CSI padget so can can I help
Speaker 4: you outgo get that? Thenble? But I can I help?
Speaker 4: Like I don't know where to place you. I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do with you. I appreciate about the TUCA,
Speaker 4: you know, but what is it that you can really
Speaker 4: offer and help us out there? So if you do
Speaker 4: have something at for agroe me not for instance like texts.
Speaker 4: There's a guy now who helps us, you know, Desmond
Speaker 4: and Mary and help us out with our texas and
Speaker 4: our books to make sure we are compliant and and
Speaker 4: and give you look things that he's in. But those
Speaker 4: guys take care of that stuff and it's great. Now
Speaker 4: that's one less headache for me to think about double
Speaker 4: for instance trevel and tourism. And then like a Joe,
Speaker 4: I mean this sector, this is what I can help
Speaker 4: you then will be like oh man, that will be doped.
Speaker 4: Then you can take care of that for us. So
Speaker 4: we're always looking for help and financial help obviously like
Speaker 4: plugging the gaps, especially where we then sometimes that to
Speaker 4: pay for getting shoes, getting a pal, getting balls, Like
Speaker 4: we're fortunately sometimes people that go type listed and help
Speaker 4: us out here. And then but essentially, like I said,
Speaker 4: like we need we need to help matter if it's
Speaker 4: if it's focused, then you know what you want to
Speaker 4: help us out with that would be that would actually
Speaker 4: help us more than just fall out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it's so lovely chating to you. I
Speaker 3: wish we had more time, but we have unfortunately reached
Speaker 3: the end of our session. But I believe in future
Speaker 3: we will be checking more because there's a lot more
Speaker 3: that I believe everyone out there can actually take from
Speaker 3: what you're saying, and there's more people who are belief
Speaker 3: can actually help you improve what you're trying to build,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to the og Molay Foundation to
Speaker 3: help build society. So with that being said, O G,
Speaker 3: I'm setly going to say that we need to wrap
Speaker 3: up and show and leave you. You know, my smile
Speaker 3: just went down when I noticed the time, and I
Speaker 3: don't like it, but I just want.
Speaker 2: To say.
Speaker 3: A huge thank you for sharing everything that you've shared
Speaker 3: today and for actually expressing yourself in a way that
Speaker 3: people can actually understand. When you say this is what
Speaker 3: I do, people don't have to ask questions elsewhere, they
Speaker 3: will and they will put themselves in your shoes to
Speaker 3: say og is not just a golfer. He's a family man.
Speaker 3: He you know, I don't even want to say a
Speaker 3: family man. He's a father to the nation if I could,
Speaker 3: because of what you are actually doing in society as
Speaker 3: a whole. So a big, big thank you to you
Speaker 3: for that. And I hope our audience is listening. I
Speaker 3: hope someone out there has paid attention and someone will
Speaker 3: reach out and say to you, Ogi, this is what
Speaker 3: I do. I would like to help you, and I
Speaker 3: would like us to build your vision and put it into.
Speaker 4: Life to return to you and everyone couples and tease.
Speaker 4: I really want to appreciate the platform and and I
Speaker 4: really love what you guys are doing. I think like
Speaker 4: GoF is so great man. It's offered me like so
Speaker 4: many wonderful opportunities and I always love to see people
Speaker 4: growing in the sports in different in different spheres and
Speaker 4: and and platforms. You know, whether I can podcast day,
Speaker 4: whether it's a guy like songs coaching kids, and whether
Speaker 4: it's it's it's the guys that are actually playing and
Speaker 4: make it on twolve media side. For us to continue
Speaker 4: to cloth this game like needs all of us to
Speaker 4: come together, but I got all unfortunately for now covering
Speaker 4: a lot of time flies when you having funds, so
Speaker 4: it was dope. I'm definitely keen to link up some
Speaker 4: other time because hey, call for that looks like another
Speaker 4: whole day to be honest. So thanks, thanks for the opportunity,
Speaker 4: and I really appreciate it and little and like I
Speaker 4: wish you guys a lot of success. Compos and.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, sir, and you must have yourself
Speaker 3: a blessed evening. Thank you to your loved ones for
Speaker 3: affording us this time to have a chat with you
Speaker 3: and all the best with everything that you do. I
Speaker 3: am looking forward to seeing bigger and greater things from you, sir,
Speaker 3: and I want to be a part of that evolution
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: You received. Thank you, my brother, thank you.
Speaker 2: You must have a great night, sir. Cheers all right,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. So there you have it.
Speaker 3: That was the one and only Og Molly fair and listen, guys,
Speaker 3: I always preach one thing.
Speaker 2: Golfers have beautiful hearts. Golfers are loving.
Speaker 3: If you walk into a golf course and you'll find
Speaker 3: angry faces, then you probably walked into the wrong place.
Speaker 3: But I can reaction show you ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: the time, whenever you walk into a golf course, you
Speaker 3: will see a smile on the people's faces, regardless of
Speaker 3: what kind of around that they had. And you can
Speaker 3: hear it from Og when he speaks so much enthusiasm.
Speaker 3: The man is passionate about the sport. The man wants
Speaker 3: to make sure that our own African brothers and sisters
Speaker 3: exposed to the spot and they learn all the lessons
Speaker 3: that he himself has leant through the spot and over
Speaker 3: and above that, like you said, he wants to make
Speaker 3: sure that they get the right education.
Speaker 2: So, ladies and gentlemen, whoever is listening out.
Speaker 3: There, Please please please reach out to OG Molly Fair
Speaker 3: if you have something that you.
Speaker 2: Can help with.
Speaker 3: If you don't know how to contact him, you can
Speaker 3: always con Bos and Ties will definitely connect you with
Speaker 3: Mestami Effet.
Speaker 2: But for the most I want to say a huge thing.
Speaker 3: I can't even stop saying thank you to Og because
Speaker 3: what he explained about the foundation is phenomenal. It's incredible,
Speaker 3: and uh, we need more and more and more people
Speaker 3: who can actually do what it does. And yep, with
Speaker 3: that being said, ladies and gentlemen, don't quote me on this,
Speaker 3: but the weekend has officially started. Those who are going
Speaker 3: to work tomorrow, please go there wholeheartedly do what you
Speaker 3: have to do. But if you're waking on Friday, then
Speaker 3: you need to make contact with twenty two because Friday
Speaker 3: is part of the weekend and I will never ever
Speaker 3: compromise that one. I will help you restructure everything to
Speaker 3: make sure that on Fridays you are out on the
Speaker 3: golf course doing what you love with your loved ones.
Speaker 3: With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, the Magician is
Speaker 3: signing out. I will see you next week. I love
Speaker 3: you guys, and all the best.
Speaker 4: To me Chi shan
Speaker 3: Mm hmm