WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:05.480 You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:08.640 I AM six forty on demand anytime the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.480 Chief Medical Officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center, Long 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.759 Beach joins US Now Medical News with doctor Keeney. So 5 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:16.239 you are avoiding the United States right now, and I 6 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:18.760 think that makes perfect sense, especially because we've decided to 7 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.559 give measles a try. 8 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.280 Yeah. Yeah, so measles outbreak is still going on. I mean, 9 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:27.879 I know we've talked about it before, but I think 10 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.519 it's just this ongoing event at this point and probably 11 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.600 will be for the next year, to be honest, because 12 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:37.039 our vaccination rates, especially in Texas, have dropped so low 13 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.560 that we can expect, you know, outbreaks at this point. 14 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.039 Why why are we all of a sudden vaccine skeptical. 15 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:46.039 I have a little bit of understanding when it comes 16 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:50.320 to COVID because it was new. It's the mRNA vaccine, 17 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:54.000 a different delivery, and I understand that there's some skepticism 18 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.280 to new things, and I know that we'd like to 19 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:58.560 challenge authority all that kind of stuff. But when it 20 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:01.079 comes to the MMR, the measles up for bella vaccine 21 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.280 for Pete's sake, that's been around forever. Why are we 22 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.319 are we hesitant about something that is shown It's fine. 23 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:11.920 Yeah, I mean it's it's a combination of things. There 24 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.439 are people who are vaccine hesitant because overall because of vaccines, 25 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:17.760 You're right, that's I think that might be the minority 26 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.560 at this point. So a lot of people that are 27 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.799 just government hesitant, and they don't want to be told 28 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.480 what to do, and they don't want to obey the government, 29 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.480 and so even if the government's right, they're going to say, 30 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.040 you can't tell me what to do. So, I mean 31 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:35.040 that's there's a big group of people I run into, 32 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.799 at least at this point that are more like I want. 33 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:42.079 I'm for individual rights, individuality, individual choice, and I choose 34 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.400 not to get my kids vaccinated. And when you look 35 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.319 at these cases, the people that are getting measles aren't 36 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.040 the ones making the choice. It's their parents. They're making 37 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:53.239 the choice. And seventy eight percent of the cases or 38 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:54.719 kids who didn't get to choose. 39 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.200 Yeah, doesn't it seem strange to you that that we 40 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:02.840 would choose self arm in order to take a stand 41 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.120 for individual choice. For instance, I believe in individual choice, too. 42 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.639 In many cases, there is at no point do I 43 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:11.599 say I'm going to tear out my fingernails just because 44 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.439 the government doesn't want me to. Why do we say, 45 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.280 let's make sure our kids get these diseases that have 46 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.759 been otherwise eradicated for individual choice? Isn't this? I mean, 47 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:25.000 this feels like it's a real cognitive dissonance going on 48 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.080 within one's own mind. There has to be a psychological 49 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:28.800 component to this. 50 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.280 There is, and I think, you know, overall, just people 51 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:36.280 are trying to deal with it. I know, and honestly, 52 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.759 as you talk to each individual person as you do 53 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.240 when you're a doctor, they you know, they really are 54 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:43.199 trying to do the best. They're trying to make the 55 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.039 best of their understanding of the world, and they're coming 56 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.120 to this conclusion you're wishing there was a way. You know, 57 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.719 how do I not sound like I'm sold out to 58 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.639 pharmaceutical companies because I don't get a dime if you 59 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.360 get vaccinated or not. You know, how do I sound 60 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.199 like you know that I can be a legitimate source 61 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.719 when you know, because I know when I started this 62 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.000 in med school, there was we had Jenny McCarthy, who 63 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.039 you know, went from being a we'll call her a 64 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.400 reality star show to you know, on the view, to 65 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.240 all of a sudden an authority on you know, vaccines 66 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.599 and autism, and I realized, Wow, I don't have that level, 67 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:22.800 you know, sitting at a patient's bedside, I don't have 68 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:26.039 that level of influence. I really can't combat that. So, 69 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:29.159 I mean, there's just people who choose they're they're easily 70 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.400 kind of taken in by you know, almost call them 71 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.599 medical myths, and they kind of if it aligns with 72 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.039 their with their own thinking already, and we tend to 73 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.280 believe things that align with our own thinking. And I 74 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.280 think that's what's happening. Is you suspect the government, you 75 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.680 find out that there's something about vaccines that they're not 76 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.360 telling you, and then it aligns with your thinking. You say, 77 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:49.560 no way, I'm not doing it. 78 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:55.280 Where is the Where did this go wrong? I love 79 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.719 what you said, Doctor Jim Kinney, the chief medical officer 80 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.599 for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, as 81 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.360 our medical News at, doctor Kinney continues, I love what 82 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.360 you said about as you talk to individuals, you learned 83 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:06.840 that they really are trying to do the best for 84 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.039 themselves at some point. Their parents must not have taught 85 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:12.960 them that the best thing they can do for themselves 86 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.360 is listen to doctors. So is this a condition of 87 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:23.680 Centerfolds having more influence than the doctor that we suddenly 88 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:29.199 the girl who's in the magazine under my mattress, I 89 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.319 believe her more than I believe the guy wearing the 90 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.040 lab coat. And ten years of schooling and twenty years 91 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:37.920 of experience, at some point we decided that the credibility 92 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.240 of those doctors was not in our best interest. So 93 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.800 how do we reconcile. I'm going to do what's best 94 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.199 for myself, but I'm also going to ignore. 95 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.639 The experts right now, You're absolutely right, but the you know, 96 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:52.639 and I'm going to take I'm going to take responsibility 97 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.319 for that. You know, doctors have kind of made their beds. Right. 98 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:58.399 It used to be people that you could sit and 99 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.480 talk to and have a relationship with and you really 100 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:03.959 trusted and understood. And now it's these fifteen minutes appointment 101 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.399 where you maybe get five minutes max of FaceTime, And 102 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.439 how do you build a relationship? How do you build 103 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:11.959 trust in that much time? You know, the American health 104 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:17.319 systems somewhat broken, and doctors are not establishing that relationship 105 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.439 or trust. And now that's that's really unfair to put 106 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.800 across every doctor because I mean, my doctor sits there 107 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:24.240 and talks to me, and I know he does that 108 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.360 not just with me, but with his other patients. So 109 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:30.120 there's people out there that actually do that. But overall, 110 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.639 as a specialty, we are you know, we have not 111 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:37.800 engendered the trust that we really need to. And you know, 112 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.279 and now that we drop so in the past, if 113 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:42.360 if you only had little pockets, right, and you have 114 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.920 what we everybody knows now is herd immunity, right, it's 115 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.879 that if if you don't find it in the herd, 116 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.240 then the people that are that are sensitive to it 117 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.800 won't be impacted. And that's what we've been seeing for years. Well, 118 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.759 now we've dropped below that herd immunity and now those 119 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.439 small pockets are no longer protected. They are going to 120 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.959 be and really this if you have you know, this 121 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.879 is what I'm concerned about, is people are worried about 122 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.079 measles and they're coming to be concerned that they're going 123 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.199 to get it. If you've been vaccinated, if you were 124 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:10.399 born before nineteen fifty seven, you had measles you know 125 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.519 you are You're fine. You know you're not probably not 126 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:14.959 going to get If you really want to know, you 127 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.839 can get a measles tighter that will prove whether you're 128 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:20.279 immune or not. This is really going to be a 129 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.120 disease of the unvaccinated. So if you're unvaccinated, you have 130 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.800 concerns and if you're not. If you are vaccinated, you're 131 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:28.319 going to be fine, all right. 132 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.959 Doctor Jim Kiney, our chief medical officer, will continue more 133 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.160 medical news with doctor Keeney, including something he said here 134 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.079 just a moment ago about the health system and spending 135 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.360 more time with patients. I want to know whose fault 136 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.319 that is that we're not doing it. I love that 137 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.759 he took accountability, but we'll find out. Is it all 138 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.879 on him? Doctor Jim? I don't think you are the 139 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:52.240 problem that And why is it that working mornings is hazardous? Hazardous? 140 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.560 That is nice? Okay? If I AM six forty were 141 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.240 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. 142 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:01.079 App, you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 143 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.040 Chris Meryl KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk and 144 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:08.199 on demand anytime in the iHeartRadio App. Joining me is 145 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.959 doctor Jim Kenny, chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary 146 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.560 Medical Health Medical Center in Long Beach. It's Medical News 147 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.519 with doctor Keeney and Doctor Keeney. You were talking in 148 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.120 our last segment here about the health system and that 149 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.040 it's really changed. You used to be able to sit 150 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.040 down and have a conversation with doctors, and now doctors 151 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.639 you've got fifteen minutes appointment fifteen minute appointments. You get 152 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:29.839 about five minutes FaceTime with the doctors. Is this because 153 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.920 we have a shortage of providers or is this a 154 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.839 is this a health insurance thing? Is this about quotas 155 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.199 and tracking results? What's what's the cause the root cause 156 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:38.439 of that. 157 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:42.519 Yeah, that's it's a great question. But the problem is 158 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.600 there's no sound bite answer to this one. It is. 159 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.800 It's a it's a breakdown across the board, right that 160 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.959 we do have a significant shortage of physicians. So I 161 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.399 mean you refer to somebody even in my area where 162 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.480 you know we have plenty, we have a lot of physicians, 163 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.000 but we're still a shortage of neurosurgeons and often neurology 164 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.680 where it may take three months to get into CE one. 165 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:06.639 You know, there's there's shortages of all types of specialties. 166 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:10.680 So you know, there's definitely the shortage issue, and so 167 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.720 doctors are trying to get in as many patients as 168 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.360 they can. You're in a generation where doctors sell, you know, 169 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:17.920 it's one of the few areas where balleories have gone 170 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:19.959 down as medicine. That's why you see kind of this 171 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.439 brain drain of you know, it used to be the 172 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.319 smart kids went to medical school. Now it seems like 173 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.560 the smart kids going to finance or computer science or AI. Right, 174 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.080 So the incomes have gone down rather than going up 175 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.600 over the years, and I think Dodgors have tried to 176 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.480 mitigate that by working harder and seeing more patients. It 177 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.639 plays into it in a lot of ways. I can 178 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.159 maybe equalize out my income. I can also serve the 179 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:47.519 population who's saying, look, we don't have enough doctors and 180 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.399 I need to see more people. So, you know, and 181 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:55.320 then we have all the managed care is you know, 182 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.919 in term for an HMO for example, is managed care 183 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.200 and you get a per member, per month fee. Right. 184 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.440 So the geary is if I keep all my patients healthy, 185 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.399 then they get to just keep that money. They don't 186 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.360 have to spend a lot of money in medical fees, 187 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.240 and so you're kind of at risk. But so what 188 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.120 people do is they take on quite a few patients 189 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:16.360 because you know, if you're going to get ten dollars 190 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.639 per member per month and you need to make you know, 191 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.519 you know, twenty thousand dollars a month, then you're going 192 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.840 to take on two thousand patients and at the end 193 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:26.519 of the month, you know, you may have had to 194 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.200 see a good portion of those, maybe ten percent of those, 195 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:30.879 or maybe they don't have to see any of them. 196 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.840 But really people are getting you know, we have more 197 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.159 interventions in healthcare now, there's more things to check, there's 198 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.960 more things we can treat, and so it's really the 199 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.000 visits are going up, and the population is aging. You 200 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.399 know that people over sixty five see the doctor five 201 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.679 times as much as someone under sixty five, so suddenly 202 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.320 we need more visits as well. Just so many factors 203 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.159 that we've pent a lost control. Doctors are now kind 204 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.720 of hourly employees for the most part, and it's hard 205 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:03.960 to really, you know, control your workflow in a lot 206 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.519 of settings. Some settings you can, and they're choosing to 207 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:08.960 work the extra hours of other settings. It's just hard 208 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:09.600 to control it. 209 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.679 I could I literally talk to this topic for two 210 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.440 or three hours, but nobody would want to listen to it. So, uh, 211 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.240 doctor Kinnie, let me move on real quick. I want 212 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:20.399 to get to this. Working mornings sucks. I've done it before. 213 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.320 They asked what I do it for, Bill, I said no. 214 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.840 They said we will give you doctor pay for it. 215 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.919 I said, that's great, I'll do it. Then they told 216 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:29.279 me doctor pay was ten dollars, which I thought was crap. Right, 217 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:31.799 I didn't realize until talking to you that I am 218 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.519 getting doctor pay. So what's the I've got a sleep 219 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.720 tracker on my on my Apple Watch, and it tells 220 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.240 me I'm not getting enough sleep, especially this week, right 221 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.679 right is there? I mean I thought I find that 222 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.080 very useful because I'm somebody that subscribes to the whole 223 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:48.440 I got to get eight hours and I try to 224 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.559 go to bed with the with the the sun down 225 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.039 and get up when the sun comes up and not 226 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:53.799 set an alarm clock. Am I doing stuff wrong? 227 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.200 Yeah? I mean so a lot packed in there. Right. 228 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:01.360 Sleep trackers, they are asked to me sleep based on 229 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.320 things like your pulse and your pulse oxygen level and movement. 230 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.799 That's not what sleep labs do, and they never have. 231 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:12.639 Sleep labs are approximating sleep by catching electrodes to your 232 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.799 head and looking at actual brain waves. So your sleep 233 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:17.919 tracker is telling you you're in rem sleep, but it 234 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:21.080 actually has no idea because it's not packing your brain waves. 235 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.000 And even when we talk about rem sleep and deep sleep, 236 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.679 what estimating with the brain waves is the neurochemical process 237 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.759 in the brain that we can't measure. So your three 238 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.879 spaces moved from measuring the correct thing when you're just 239 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:38.759 using a tracker. So there is ah, there's a condition 240 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.080 now where people get so anxious over the fact that 241 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:43.720 their sleep tracker is telling them they're not getting enough 242 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.600 sleep that they actually have anxiety over it. They go 243 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:48.960 to a sleep study and they realize, no, you're actually 244 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.639 getting all the sleep you need, and they're just they 245 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.759 don't accept it because they really are bought into these trackers. 246 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.679 So they're interesting. They're good because what you can do 247 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.600 is modify certain things, right like you know, eat a 248 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:02.159 late meal and go to bed and see what that 249 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.960 does to your sleep tracker. That that kind of change, 250 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.320 you can tell you, well, I am getting better sleep 251 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.799 or less, you know, not as good sleep. You can try, 252 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.360 you know, drink having a nightcap before you go to bed. 253 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.480 People think it helps them sleep, it actually hurts their 254 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:17.879 sleep for the most part. Same thing with like marijuana gummies. 255 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.440 People swear by those to sleep, but they disrupt your 256 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.639 rem sleep and your deep sleep cycles. So you know, 257 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.039 that's kind of what's going on with those sleep trackers. 258 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:30.639 They're they're fun, but they also they have their downside 259 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.200 as well, and there's even people then going to the 260 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.159 doctor and getting mends that they don't need to help 261 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.799 them with a sleep problem that they don't have. So 262 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.879 you know, I think there is some danger there. But 263 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:42.200 if you have a sleep problem and you want to 264 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.559 see a sleep specialist, they can do a sleep study 265 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:47.960 and a sleep lab connected to the electra and then 266 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.320 you'll really know the right answer. 267 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:53.000 Which is why I offset my nightcap with the gummy 268 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.279 because I figured that I just mix them and everything 269 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.039 works out. Doctor Jim Keiney, chief medical Officer for Dignity 270 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.440 Saint Mary Medical Center, Long Beach. It's Meta News with 271 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.080 doctor Kenney. Thank you so much for Carbon Daniel for us. 272 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.039 Thanks bell appreciate it. Take a check on News KFI 273 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.200 AM six forty. Chris Merril Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 274 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:14.440 You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand Chris 275 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.399 Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk and on 276 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.320 demand anytime in the iHeartRadio app. If you are on 277 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.799 the socials, there's a chance, while you may not navigate 278 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:28.600 the socials as well as your your teenager or young adult, 279 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:35.279 you are better at not falling for shenanigans, which is 280 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.320 what we're seeing. We're seeing a bunch of the kids 281 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:43.639 these days that somehow are more savvy online than any 282 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:49.440 prior generation and also equally dumber than any prior generation. 283 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.360 This I pulled audio here, this from NBC in Washington 284 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:59.600 that was talking about the phishing scams that the kids 285 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:00.840 these days are falling for. 286 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.519 The numbers are alarming, more than one hundred and one 287 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:08.440 million dollars lost in online scams in twenty twenty one 288 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.080 by people under twenty years old. The study was done 289 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:17.279 by Social Catfish, a company dedicated to preventing online scams 290 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.200 through reverse search technology. 291 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:20.799 Essially are a people's search company. 292 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:23.759 We help people verify people online and so you know, 293 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.279 our focus is online safety. 294 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.399 The uptick might be because fifty four percent of the 295 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.039 households called don't monitor their kids' activities online. 296 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.399 Oh yeah, nobody likes spying on their kids. It is 297 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.320 harder to be a parent now than it ever has 298 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.039 in the past. It's harder to be a kid than 299 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.480 it's ever been in the past. It's harder to be 300 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:47.360 a parent. You hear stories from us fogies that we'll 301 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.440 talk about how our parents would say, go outside and 302 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.600 don't come back until it's dark, or don't come back 303 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:54.559 until the street lights come on. And there were times 304 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:59.360 that we would I recall playing basketball with friends, and 305 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:01.919 I'm not talking about street games with anybody that was 306 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.000 good at basketball, but it was just a group of 307 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:08.159 guys somewhere between the ages of twelve and sixteen, and 308 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.399 we'd be out there playing basketball until we literally couldn't 309 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.240 see the basket any longer, and then everybody walked home 310 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.000 and we'll see again tomorrow. That's what we did, right. 311 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.919 Parents didn't have to spy on us now. Occasionally to 312 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.840 have one of the kids, parents would drive by and 313 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.799 just wave and go, hey, I'm just headed home. Just 314 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.320 wanted to say hi. And you know, now, looking back 315 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:29.840 at it as a parent, I can look back and go, Okay, 316 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:31.120 they were just checking to make sure the kid was 317 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.120 there and then everything's safe. Cool, it's great. But now 318 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.240 you have to put keyloggers on your kid's computer. You 319 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:40.519 have to put spywear on your own kid's computer to 320 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:44.480 make sure that they're not falling victim. And the kids 321 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:46.919 don't like it because they say, you're watching everything I'm doing. 322 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.080 Of course, teenagers do that because they want their independence. Yeah, 323 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.879 I'm watching what you're doing, because there's always some pervo 324 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.879 out there asking for you to send nude pictures. Truth 325 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.120 old days, there were still perbos, but you could identify 326 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.679 them because they had really noisy vans with no windows. Nowadays, 327 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:08.080 you can't see them. 328 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.039 When they're randomly contacted by somebody, whether it be through 329 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.159 social media, through email, or their phones. They don't have 330 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.480 their spider sense up like you or I where we 331 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.360 grew up in like that, don't talk to strangers. 332 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:24.080 Generation leaving over confident tech savvy teens to be exposed 333 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.320 to four common scams. 334 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:27.919 Ooo, what would they be? 335 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:32.600 The first is sex stortion. The FBI published this warning 336 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:37.519 on sextortion plots against teenage boys. Often scammers will pose 337 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.679 as a female, send new photos and asked for the 338 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:41.120 same in. 339 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.320 Return was thank Goodness TV out of the sound effects 340 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:45.120 it's received. 341 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.519 The victim is told if he does not send money, 342 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:49.919 a photo will be sent to all of his friends 343 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.799 and family and posted online. 344 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.080 It's sad because last year there was a story of 345 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:59.840 a Florida teen that actually committed suicidally. Oh and what 346 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:04.960 he realizes with most sex soortion cases, though they're empty threats. 347 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.119 Before chatting with a stranger online, perform a reverse image 348 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.279 search to confirm the person is who they say they are, 349 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:16.359 and if you received a threat, contact local law enforcement 350 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:17.079 to report it. 351 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.279 Now here's where the team is going to be better 352 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:23.799 than you are at doing the reverse image search. Swear 353 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:25.319 to god, it would take me ten minutes to figure 354 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.039 out how to do that. I could figure it out, 355 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.160 but I don't have the reverse image search website handy 356 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:33.319 on my computer. It would take me a hot minute. 357 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.079 Another scam is student loan forgiveness. Most of the time, 358 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.480 the victim will get emails or texts asking for personal 359 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:44.519 information like their social Security number and payment information. To 360 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:49.039 avoid this, the Department of Education's official financial site studenta 361 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:51.880 dot gov should be the only site you give personal 362 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:52.680 information to. 363 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.720 Although that site may go down here very shortly because of. 364 00:17:55.720 --> 00:18:00.319 Cuts, and there is no application fee to apply up. Next, Yeah, 365 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.680 talent scout scam users on Instagram and tics. 366 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:05.720 All right, we got it, talent scouts blah blah blah. 367 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.759 What else to avoid? Just never click on any links, 368 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:10.920 even if the link was sent from a friend. 369 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.400 There you go. Don't click on links. You don't have 370 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.319 any talent. Nobody wants to see you naked. And what 371 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:19.160 was the other one? It was the other one we 372 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.200 just said. So why do people fall for it? Because 373 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.599 when you're a teenager, you're dumb. When you're a young adult, 374 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:28.720 you're dumb. You've got more hormones than brains, and you've 375 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:33.039 got what the kids call fomo. Now for many of you, 376 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.240 you know what fomo means. But every time I say 377 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:38.319 the phrase fomo, my wife has to ask what does 378 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:43.559 that mean? And I just say, you just wouldn't understand. 379 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.440 You're getting up there, and that's when I get to 380 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.640 go sleep on the couch. But fomo is fear of 381 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.279 missing out. So we have so many young people that 382 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:52.960 have a fear of missing out that they're willing to 383 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.319 send nuties of themselves to randos. They're willing to click 384 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.839 on links that say we'll pay off your student loan 385 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:01.880 town because I mean, what if there's a chance that 386 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:05.559 it's real, And they'll click on all kinds of different 387 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:09.359 links because I don't want to miss out on something. Oh, 388 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.559 this talent agent spotted my Instagram and says I'm hot 389 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:15.359 and could be a model. I better click on the 390 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.480 link and give them my photos and send them money 391 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:23.319 to represent me, because I mean, what if they are real? Well, 392 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:27.839 jincidentally is not new. This happened when I was in college. 393 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.799 The Internet was still very young as far as it's ubiquity. 394 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:32.799 And when I was in college, we used to get 395 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:40.160 those chain letter emails. Forward this to six people, you know, 396 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.319 because Bill Gates is giving every one a thousand dollars 397 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.240 that's on this chain. We got those constantly, constantly, and 398 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:51.200 we always forwarded them because I mean, we're ninety nine 399 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.359 point nine percent sure this is garbage, but just in case, 400 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.200 maybe Bill Gates is trying to figure out who he 401 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.039