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<v Speaker 1>I grew up really poor. I never knew my father,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother was abusive. I think life turned her

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<v Speaker 1>that way and she took her frustration out on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the way things were, I tried to spend

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<v Speaker 1>as much time as I could away from home. Things

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<v Speaker 1>were clearly different in the seventies for kids like me.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullying and the obvious signs of abuse were often

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<v Speaker 1>overlooked or ignored by teachers and grown ups. My school

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<v Speaker 1>had what they called Eco Week, where they would take

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<v Speaker 1>us up to cabins in the mountains. Well I loved

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<v Speaker 1>Echo Week. Not knowing my father meant that I never

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<v Speaker 1>went on fishing trips or camping trips, and unlike other boys,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no one to show me how to bait

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<v Speaker 1>a hook. I never had the chance to relive the

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<v Speaker 1>hunting stories that fathers passed down to their sons. We

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<v Speaker 1>all piled into the school buses. The popular kids sat

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere they wanted. I scrambled to find a seat. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the camp area the first time was completely overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never been to anything like this. We were

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to a cabin, each with four bunk beds. The

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<v Speaker 1>windows were small, which allowed light to stream into the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>but high enough to keep anyone from spying on you

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside. We each chose a bed and we

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<v Speaker 1>laid out our sleeping bags. My bunk mate was a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy set boy with glasses named Eric. He was quiet

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<v Speaker 1>and he was shy, and he became an immediate target

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<v Speaker 1>for the older bullies in our group. I was big

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<v Speaker 1>for my age, and I had learned a long time

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<v Speaker 1>ago how to put up a front thanks to the

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<v Speaker 1>frequent beatings from my mother. The bullies were fooled by

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<v Speaker 1>my tough demeanor and generally left me alone. After a

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<v Speaker 1>night sitting around the campfire roasting sh'mores, the counselors ordered

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<v Speaker 1>us back to our rooms for the night. I helped

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<v Speaker 1>put the supplies away and douse the fire, and in

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<v Speaker 1>lieu of not having a healthy role model in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>I craved the attention of the adult counselors, who probably

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea how important their encouragement was to a

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<v Speaker 1>lonely kid like me. I was starved for affection and

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<v Speaker 1>severely lacking when it came to my own self esteem.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the last one back to the cabin. The

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<v Speaker 1>lights were off, but I heard whispers and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a glare of flashlights through the windows. I quietly opened

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<v Speaker 1>the door to my disgust. Our roommates had Eric surrounded.

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<v Speaker 1>His pajamas were around his ankles, and he was clutching

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<v Speaker 1>the waistban of his tattered shorts. Whatever they had been

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<v Speaker 1>planning for my poor, humiliated bunk mate, my arrival had

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<v Speaker 1>preempted it. I hit the lights of the cabin and

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<v Speaker 1>stared down Eric's abusers. Alerted by the commotions, several counselors intervened.

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<v Speaker 1>They took note of the situation and promptly moved Eric's

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<v Speaker 1>tormentors to different cabins For the remainder of our stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric and I were the sole occupants of our own cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>We laid in our bunks one night and Eric opened

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<v Speaker 1>up to me about his own horrible childhood. We had

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<v Speaker 1>both been believed and victimized, but what had happened to

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<v Speaker 1>him was unspeakable, and whether out of pity or empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>we became buddies. They'll pay for that, said Eric to

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<v Speaker 1>me one night. My friends will take care of them, who,

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<v Speaker 1>I muttered, You haven't seen my friends. They look into

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<v Speaker 1>the windows each night, they're watching over us. Well. I

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<v Speaker 1>drifted off to sleep. Certain Eric's remarks were the revenge

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<v Speaker 1>fantasies of a picked on kid. Well, during the last

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<v Speaker 1>night of our stay, something drew us all from our cabins.

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<v Speaker 1>Our ex roommates had been discovered sitting in the dirt

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<v Speaker 1>near the camp restrooms. They were babbling incoherently, oblivious to

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<v Speaker 1>the gawkers staring and pointing at them. The counselors led

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<v Speaker 1>them away. Eric and I returned to our room and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get some sleep before the journey home. In

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<v Speaker 1>a few hours, we sat together on the school bus,

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<v Speaker 1>but Eric and I hardly said a word to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was like a sleep. We were halfway home

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<v Speaker 1>before I noticed our former roommates weren't on the bus

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Well. I heard later that their parents had

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<v Speaker 1>been summoned to the camp in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>night to take them home. One day, Eric took a

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<v Speaker 1>walk out into the woods, and he never came back.

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<v Speaker 1>There were rumors he had died, or that he had

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<v Speaker 1>run away from his abusive household. I like to think

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<v Speaker 1>that somewhere out there he simply found a nicer set

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<v Speaker 1>of friends. The account you read of the UFO account

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<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma from rusty is one hundred percent true. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a police officer at the time. I'd rather not

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<v Speaker 1>say what department that night I was on duty, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was planning on using a few hours of comp time.

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<v Speaker 1>As I was headed in, a traffic officer called the

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<v Speaker 1>police department advising that it appeared that a jet was

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble and to please contact the base. We had

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<v Speaker 1>previously served as support after one of the training jets

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<v Speaker 1>had crashed, so this was not an unusual request. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was immediately on full alert waiting for confirmation, and a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes passed and I headed toward another area for

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<v Speaker 1>better observation, and meanwhile, the public had lit up the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines to report the light that they were seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched this ball of light as it descended diagonally

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<v Speaker 1>toward our city, and suddenly he had appeared to stop

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<v Speaker 1>in midfall, and dispatch advised east side officers to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a different radio channel for further instructions. After switching

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<v Speaker 1>to a different channel, we were advised to stand by

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<v Speaker 1>and we watched the light stop and remain stationary before

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<v Speaker 1>dispatch ordered me to the station to help with the

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<v Speaker 1>phone traffic. A few minutes later, when I arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>the police station. I was informed by my sergeant that

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<v Speaker 1>we were on a full alert from the base, and

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<v Speaker 1>a minute later, the infamous red telephone rang. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>phone had never rung before. Everyone always said that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a hotline to Washington, DC, and that night we

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<v Speaker 1>found out that that was true. My sergeant had a

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<v Speaker 1>deer in the headlights look on his face as he

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<v Speaker 1>stared at that phone. The other sergeant answered it and

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<v Speaker 1>immediately jumped out of his chair instead of attention. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird and it's almost comical. But after several yes, sirs,

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<v Speaker 1>he hung up and looked at us and he said

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<v Speaker 1>it's him. He said that until we know the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>the base is in charge. He also said that we

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<v Speaker 1>were not to speak about this incident. It was then

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<v Speaker 1>that the base contacted the police station, advising us that

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<v Speaker 1>they had fully armed jets in the air and we

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<v Speaker 1>were advised that they were in pursuit of this object.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the next hour, that craft was between Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City and Houston airspace and it was going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>No aircraft on Earth could have covered the distance between

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City and Houston in six minutes flat. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a game or something. It would stop until the

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<v Speaker 1>jets got closed, and then it would take off again.

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<v Speaker 1>Radar documented every bit of this. The lights of the

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<v Speaker 1>jets looked like ping pong balls compared to the beach

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<v Speaker 1>ball sized light of this object. After the incident was called,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was told to stand down. The military in some

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<v Speaker 1>odd ball suits showed up for depbriefing. Well. I played

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<v Speaker 1>it off as if I didn't see anything. Being a

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<v Speaker 1>female back then was reason enough for the suits to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore me. I was told later that the military instructions

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<v Speaker 1>were don't acknowledge anything and keep it out of the press.

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<v Speaker 1>From what I saw, it appeared that over half of

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<v Speaker 1>that craft was in shadow. I honestly couldn't begin to

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<v Speaker 1>estimate the size. The last time I saw it, it

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<v Speaker 1>went straight up and it disappeared in the blink of

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<v Speaker 1>an eye. Whatever it was, it wasn't from our world.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Wayne, and this is about an encounter

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<v Speaker 1>with a bigfoot. My father and I were on a

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<v Speaker 1>hunting trip in the foothills of North Carolina. We had

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<v Speaker 1>set out corn debate deer in the area the week before.

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<v Speaker 1>We decided to camp out in the area and go hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>The following morning. At four o'clock in the morning, I

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<v Speaker 1>was awoken by the sound of some rustling around of

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<v Speaker 1>some leaves and the snapping of twigs on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and as if the tent just enough to look outside

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<v Speaker 1>to see what it was. Fifty feet away I saw

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<v Speaker 1>something that at first looked like a bear eating a deer.

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<v Speaker 1>The deer was still moving or twitching, as if it

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<v Speaker 1>had just been killed. Within a second, a horrible odor

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<v Speaker 1>hit me, smelling like something in decay or rotting. It

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible. It must have heard me move because it

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<v Speaker 1>quickly stood up on two feet. It wasn't a bear,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized what I was seeing. I fell back

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<v Speaker 1>into the tent lifted my rifle in the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>the beast. Then I heard heavy footfalls of this thing

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<v Speaker 1>charging the tent, and within a second we were both

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<v Speaker 1>lifted into the air like we were in a sack.

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<v Speaker 1>The big foot I had picked the tent up and

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<v Speaker 1>was dragging us along the ground. I worked the rifle

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<v Speaker 1>around and got off a few shots. This made the

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<v Speaker 1>creature release its grip on the tent and we fell

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground through the holes. I shot through the

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<v Speaker 1>tent fabric. I saw a blinding white light for just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, and then everything went deathly quiet. My father

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<v Speaker 1>breathing was all I could hear. My father asked in

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<v Speaker 1>a panic state, what was going on, but it took

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<v Speaker 1>me a while to compose myself to telling what had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We both got out of the tent with our firearms,

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<v Speaker 1>but the creature was gone. The only thing that remained

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<v Speaker 1>was the mutilated deer. We packed our gear and we

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<v Speaker 1>left it daylight, and on our way out, thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>event was over, we saw a line of black SUVs

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<v Speaker 1>parked along the road. A couple of men stepped out

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<v Speaker 1>and waved us down and we stopped. They came to

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<v Speaker 1>the window and asked several questions about why we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they asked if we had seen anything unusual

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<v Speaker 1>while camping. Well, I've heard and read about these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept my mouth shut. I told the man

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't seen anything. Apparently he believed my life and

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<v Speaker 1>we drove home. I've never shared this story with the public,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's now as the right time, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>more and more people are coming forward and deciding to

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<v Speaker 1>share their experiences. Well, that's a short compact, scary, terrifying, story.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap. I mean, he sees a bigfoot. It comes over,

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<v Speaker 1>picks the tent up, dragon, where's it taking you? Where

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<v Speaker 1>was it dragging you to in the tent? And then

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<v Speaker 1>you got off a couple of shots. Thank god you

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<v Speaker 1>had a firearm. It lets you go. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>this white light which brings in what I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means, but it leads me

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<v Speaker 1>to believe like this thing was I don't know, interdimensional. Whoop,

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<v Speaker 1>this bright light happened and it disappears. Man, what a

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<v Speaker 1>scary story. I really appreciate you sending it. Wayne. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. That's a real good one. Thank you. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born in nineteen sixty seven, the year that

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Patterson shot the famous Bigfoot film. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>suburban ten year old living in a medium sized Midwestern

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<v Speaker 1>town with no knowledge of the film when my family

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<v Speaker 1>moved to the country. The years spent on our land

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<v Speaker 1>in the adjacent two thousand acre wildlife refuge gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a great appreciation for nature. I know that if you

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<v Speaker 1>sit quiet enough for long enough and listen closely to

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<v Speaker 1>the natural world, it will always amaze you. The years

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<v Speaker 1>following my childhood were spent outdoors as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hiked and swam, and climbed and kayaked bikes, be

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<v Speaker 1>lunked and backcountry camped on five continents. The world's deserts

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<v Speaker 1>and rainforests and too many out and range is to

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<v Speaker 1>Movies and books and articles and web sites and the

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about that. My girlfriend Carrie didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>I opened those doors for her and discovered that she

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<v Speaker 1>that I did. She only giggled at the prospect of Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are. The irony of that statement would

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<v Speaker 1>come back to haunt her. The Pacific Northwest may not

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<v Speaker 1>not fail to impress. It's been a favorite place of

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<v Speaker 1>mind for a long time. The Redwoods are unparalleled, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was inevitable that Carrie and I would eventually hike there.

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<v Speaker 1>We took six days off from our responsibilit put backpacks

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<v Speaker 1>allowed on airplanes. I learned a long time ago to

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<v Speaker 1>After a good night's sleep, we ventured out for the

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<v Speaker 1>first day. The unseasonably warm weather carried hints of smoke

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't overbearing. The sky was a surreal shade

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<v Speaker 1>of orange draped over intermittent fogs and a constant smoky

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<v Speaker 1>haze that left us feeling like we had stepped onto

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<v Speaker 1>a movie set. It was unlike anything we had ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>We hiked in northern California for four days, a total

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<v Speaker 1>Most visitors to our national parks and wild places rarely

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<v Speaker 1>go beyond half a mile into the woods. Safer for

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<v Speaker 1>them and better for me, was my opinion. On our

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<v Speaker 1>fifth and final day out, we decided to take the

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<v Speaker 1>trail that I had been on twice before. It's eight

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<v Speaker 1>miles of not too difficult trail that ends in a

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<v Speaker 1>nice mile stretch along the Pacific coast. We started early

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<v Speaker 1>in conditions that hadn't changed in days. It was smoky

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<v Speaker 1>and warm, and it was orange. Having done well with

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<v Speaker 1>our rations, we nibbled periodically on whatever was left, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that our next meal would likely be in an airport restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Several miles in, at what was roughly the half way point,

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<v Speaker 1>we came across two bull elk. That's not uncommon to

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<v Speaker 1>long as you stay aware and give them adequate space,

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<v Speaker 1>it usually works out. These elk had decided to bed

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<v Speaker 1>down twenty yards from each other, directly in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the footpath. We held up behind a ten foot

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<v Speaker 1>Milling around for a bit, we talked, and we made

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't pay us any attention, though, they were more

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<v Speaker 1>the hazy canopy above. Because there didn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>any immediate danger we waited and watched them a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and we contemplated an alternate route around them. Four years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>I had come across some females and yearlings while on

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<v Speaker 1>this trail, and that ended with me and my hiking

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<v Speaker 1>partner sitting ten feet up in a tree and holding

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<v Speaker 1>on for dear life while a bull smacked the trunk

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<v Speaker 1>below us for an hour. He was definitely making a

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<v Speaker 1>statement that I didn't care to have these two bulls repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Changing course in the redwoods isn't as easy as one

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<v Speaker 1>might think. Often if you leave the trail is to

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<v Speaker 1>go straight up or straight down, and you simply don't

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<v Speaker 1>step over down redwoods unless you're Paul Bunyon. And worse,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's fifteen feet up and then fifteen feet back

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<v Speaker 1>down through a heavy voliage that includes ferns as big

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<v Speaker 1>as cars. And I've walked to within ten feet avelt

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<v Speaker 1>more than on one occasion. Before they reveal themselves. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is that big out there. I decided to try and

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<v Speaker 1>make the bulls uncomfortable by getting down on one knee

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<v Speaker 1>and moving closer. I had moved in several yards and

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<v Speaker 1>they were now looking right at me. But discomfort wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the expression on their faces. It wasn't working, so I

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<v Speaker 1>began to shuffle back a few feet. When they simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>turned ninety degrees and abruptly stood up. I no longer

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<v Speaker 1>had their attention. Carrie stepped forward and put her hand

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<v Speaker 1>on my shoulder, and as the elk leaped off the

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<v Speaker 1>path and disappeared into the forest, crashing and breaking branches

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<v Speaker 1>as they ran, I turned and looked at her, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment, a strong smell wafted it in and

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<v Speaker 1>overpowered the smell of smoke. It was curiously familiar, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything was happening so quickly that I didn't process it.

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie's grip on my shoulder got suddenly tighter as her

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<v Speaker 1>hand began to tremble. When I looked at her again,

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw scared me. Her eyes were wide and

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<v Speaker 1>her face had gone nearly white. She could see something

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't. I didn't stand up, but I turned

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<v Speaker 1>back and looked to where the elk once lay. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it happened, with a sort of grunting sound and

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous leap, A huge hair covered things sprang from

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<v Speaker 1>the ferns below the footpath and landed not thirty yards

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us. It was absurdly large, way bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than either of the bull elk that had stood there

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<v Speaker 1>moments before. I knew exactly what I was looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no doubt in my mind I was staring

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<v Speaker 1>at the same thing Patterson filmed all those years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>massive and very dark brown, standing on two legs, attached

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<v Speaker 1>to these giant feet, and it was staring at us. First,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked at Carrie, and then at me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>back at Carrie again, and over and over for what

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like an eternity. I was frozen in fear. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to run, I wanted to scream, or to cry,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least close my eyes, but I couldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>any of those things. Carries grew up, tightened to the

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<v Speaker 1>point that she was causing me pain, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>let go. She didn't step away, she remained directly behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my girlfriend did something I would never have imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt her open the top compartment of my pack

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<v Speaker 1>and remove one of the two apples we save for

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<v Speaker 1>the coast trail portion of our height. The apple sailed

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<v Speaker 1>over my head toward the beast that was staring at us,

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<v Speaker 1>and it fell short and rolled off the trail and

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<v Speaker 1>out of sight. Well this seemed to anger it, because

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<v Speaker 1>it huffed once and then a second time, even harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I whispered again, and Carrie replied, what, throw the other apple,

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<v Speaker 1>and throw it hard, I said. She reached for the apple,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw the beast squint its eyes. The look

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<v Speaker 1>we were getting was far more intimidating than when it

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<v Speaker 1>first landed on the trail. Carrie chucked the second apple hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and time crawled as I watched the apple sail toward

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<v Speaker 1>the creature in slow motion, heading straight for its head.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely going to hit it. For a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered how angry being hit by an apple would

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<v Speaker 1>make it. And then, with little effort and amazing speed,

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<v Speaker 1>it reached up and caught the apple about a foot

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<v Speaker 1>from its neck and pushed it into its mouth, all

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<v Speaker 1>in one fluid motion. I was so taken aback that

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<v Speaker 1>I fell from my knees and was now sitting sideways

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, and Carrie dropped to her knees next

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<v Speaker 1>to me as we watched in amazement while this bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>chewed the apple, huffed again in our direction, turned in

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<v Speaker 1>the same direction that the elk had gone, and with

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<v Speaker 1>two big steps, disappeared silently into the forest. It took

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<v Speaker 1>several minutes before either of us caught our breath and

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<v Speaker 1>snapped out of it, but neither said a word. We

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<v Speaker 1>communicated by watching each other's breathing and nodding, and after

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<v Speaker 1>a bit I gave her a gentle smile and she

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<v Speaker 1>answered with one of her own, and we clasped hands

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly walked the last three and a half miles

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<v Speaker 1>to the trailhead. We didn't speak much on our journey

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<v Speaker 1>home or for the next week. Eventually we discussed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to know what made her think to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the apples. She smiled and said, the Dixie cryptied guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, don't blame anything

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dixie cryptied guy. Okay, all right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>give back. The Dixie cryptied guy told a story about

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<v Speaker 1>a grandpa who gave a bigfoot his grandson's squirrels, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to work for them. We still occasionally talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened that day. We've even shared the story

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<v Speaker 1>with a few friends and family. Neither one of us

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<v Speaker 1>expected for that to happen. We both hope it never does. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so far from our normal reality that it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to process. I never tell anyone exactly where it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people to go out there looking for

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<v Speaker 1>these things. The woods are dangerous enough without running around

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find something four or five times your size.

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<v Speaker 1>And my advice is to enjoy the stories and watch

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<v Speaker 1>the movies, but hope that you never make contact. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>man touches, he destroys. Maybe the Bigfoot have figured that out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they're so elusive.
