Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape cast. I'm
Speaker 1: Mike Mahardy. Don't have any rhymes today. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be serious from now on. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a straight lace host. I'm gonna i gotta be go
Speaker 1: back to being the straight man. I feel like I
Speaker 1: gotta be the the audience stand in for these two jokers.
Speaker 1: I always show up with Mary Kish Wizzlezle Wazzle and
Speaker 1: Dan Rikert.
Speaker 2: Serious, Mike, Okay, let's get serious here.
Speaker 3: Today on Blake Club, people will were giving me a
Speaker 3: ship because I didn't know there was a moral to
Speaker 3: the odyssey. So all right, serious Mike, what's the moral
Speaker 3: of the odyssey?
Speaker 1: You never truly come home from war?
Speaker 2: That's wait, that's closer to what I said.
Speaker 3: I said something like, uh oh, there's no place like
Speaker 3: home or something like that, and they were like, no,
Speaker 3: it's about war and how the repeated volleys of war
Speaker 3: will carry us through the ages or something, and everyone
Speaker 3: everyone in the chat was like, I can't believe this
Speaker 3: idiot doesn't know about the follies of war moral and
Speaker 3: oh jeez, I.
Speaker 2: Had no idea.
Speaker 1: I still have not seen the movie. I told you guys.
Speaker 1: I wanted to know.
Speaker 3: The poem, you know. Yeah, it's based on a poem.
Speaker 3: It's based on it's been around for a while. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it was that a Bukowski. I think it's mister Rogers.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, shit, now I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 2: I thought he's an author.
Speaker 1: Now I thought it was I thought it was Ocean Voong.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I still have not seen the movie. New York
Speaker 1: tickets have been very hard to get unless there are
Speaker 1: like ten pm showings.
Speaker 2: We went at ten am. Yeah, we did the early one.
Speaker 1: I normally would not mind at ten to one am. However,
Speaker 1: the only Imax, the Imax we would go to is
Speaker 1: on the Upper west Side, so it's like leaving the
Speaker 1: Upper west Side at one am to come back to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood would be a bit of a pain.
Speaker 3: So I think there is a major fucking marketing issue
Speaker 3: with Imax. I think it is like because it should
Speaker 3: not be this fucking hard to realize, like especially a
Speaker 3: movie like Yeah, I run out of this with Avatar
Speaker 3: in this. Movies that like a big thing like these
Speaker 3: are like the movie theater movies this was shot and
Speaker 3: all Imax avatars, all this three D and everything, and
Speaker 3: like I'm someone who sees a lot of movies and
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, okay, so there's seventy milimeter, there's
Speaker 3: the Imax with laser, there's the Adobe Digital, there's the
Speaker 3: you know, like and I can't figure it out. I
Speaker 3: think for your average person who just wants to see
Speaker 3: the best version, it's like it's so fucking confusing. And
Speaker 3: also Imax is like an aspect ratio thing, and my
Speaker 3: understanding is it's like almost closer to four x three.
Speaker 3: It's a really big, big, tall aspect ratio. But then
Speaker 3: Imax seventy milimeters is like this fucking it's it's like
Speaker 3: six inches tall and like two miles wide, And it's like,
Speaker 3: how is that both Imax?
Speaker 2: This is a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It reminds me of when like Xbox Game Pass
Speaker 1: rejiggered its tier. It's like the tiered subscription. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: just tell me which one is gonna give me the
Speaker 1: most games for as little money as possible. I just
Speaker 1: want to know, Like PlayStation did that when they first.
Speaker 2: Reach that it was not much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah, just tell me how I can play
Speaker 1: this or that game. And like I had to install
Speaker 1: an app or a plug in on Steam to tell
Speaker 1: me stuff that's already on game Pass, Like I just
Speaker 1: I just wish things were not this difficult. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I still have not seen The Odyssey because I I
Speaker 1: don't want to see it not in imax, and that's.
Speaker 2: Which one are you gonna see?
Speaker 1: I think the seventy million meter, But that's the.
Speaker 4: Time, just drop let it to you. I saw it
Speaker 4: in a broke boy theater for regular people.
Speaker 2: And it was, oh, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I prefer those kinds of theaters for most movies,
Speaker 1: like The Angelica on Houston and the New York is awesome,
Speaker 1: like really old school. You can literally hear the subway
Speaker 1: go by like what seems like behind the screen because
Speaker 1: you're around.
Speaker 4: Fine. It was absolutely fine. I felt like I saw
Speaker 4: the film like I saw everything. Sometimes it felt a
Speaker 4: little zoomed in. I think that is the truth, because
Speaker 4: there's a lot of action sequences. I bet if it
Speaker 4: was a little wider, like a little taller, I would
Speaker 4: have seen a little bit more. But it was one
Speaker 4: hundred percent fine. And I don't think you need to
Speaker 4: I don't care what anyone says where they're just like
Speaker 4: this is the ultimate way to see this film. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: it's not. You made a film. People are paying money
Speaker 4: to go see it. If it was a bad film,
Speaker 4: people wouldn't pay to go see it. It's totally fine
Speaker 4: to see it in any theater. It's fine.
Speaker 1: I move my I've I have avoided like spoilers in
Speaker 1: as much as you can avoid spoilers for something that like,
Speaker 1: those events have happened in forty million stories since that
Speaker 1: was first written. But my one friend did text me saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not a spoiling thing, but there's a scene that's
Speaker 1: gonna make your misophonia go crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh I know exactly what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: And I've heard a few more drip feed of like
Speaker 1: the scene, and I was like, okay, so it's that,
Speaker 1: but it's grosser than normal.
Speaker 2: Oh there's some glory, slurpy sounds going on in them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait for that. I like, yeah, noise
Speaker 1: canceling headphones just for that scene.
Speaker 3: Oh it's pretty long one too. They're growing it down
Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, can't wait.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I Mary similar to you, I value the
Speaker 1: venue itself over like the format. I'd say maybe to
Speaker 1: my detriment, But I don't know. I'd rather go to
Speaker 1: like like an old school theater that has a bar
Speaker 1: upstairs or something like that, and then like some cool
Speaker 1: spots nearby for dinner and not have to go to
Speaker 1: ten pm. But I don't know, I'll see it. I'm
Speaker 1: going to see it.
Speaker 4: It's not like you're not going to see it. It's
Speaker 4: basically like the movie of the uh, it's like the
Speaker 4: movie of the summer. You're going to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I just I hate the idea that everyone's like,
Speaker 4: you have to see it, and I'm like I hate
Speaker 4: every time someone's like you have to see this in
Speaker 4: IMAX and it's like, fuck off, you don't have to
Speaker 4: see it in anything. There's forty two theaters in the
Speaker 4: United States that show it the way it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be seen. It's there's like something like whether you like
Speaker 4: intend to or not, it's just like it's very elitist
Speaker 4: that like they're only a way that you can see it.
Speaker 4: Like Dan didn't even know how war works, and he
Speaker 4: fucking is like, oh, I think I saw it the
Speaker 4: best way possible. You don't know what you saw.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm specifically saying I don't know because I think it's
Speaker 3: confusing and bad to do it this way.
Speaker 1: Which one did you see?
Speaker 3: Uh? I think it was IMAX with laser. Okay, So
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Mary, I don't know if I saw the
Speaker 3: best way. I just like I'm saying, I had no
Speaker 3: idea of knowing which.
Speaker 4: Was supposed to We saw an IMAX, and you don't
Speaker 4: understand the movie.
Speaker 2: I want to say, no, I understand the movie.
Speaker 1: I want to say I looked on the actual AMC
Speaker 1: like the theater's site, and they showed they had screenshots
Speaker 1: of the difference. Yeah, seventy milimeter was definitely showing more overall,
Speaker 1: but wider, not taller, right, But I thought it was
Speaker 1: the actual You were still seeing the same resolution top
Speaker 1: to bottom. It was just smaller because they had to
Speaker 1: stretch it. Does that make sense? You're noting, No, I
Speaker 1: think you super are. Okay, That's the thing I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So there's like no ideal way to see the movie.
Speaker 1: Then technically you just.
Speaker 3: I'm sure people have their thoughts and stuff, but like
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, like I'm looking, if you just search for
Speaker 3: IMAX versus IMAX seventy millimeters. You'll see these images and
Speaker 3: it's like you are absolutely missing like a lot based
Speaker 3: on what version you see.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like going to fight. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I want to be like doing
Speaker 1: like a tennis match thing, to see the whole movie
Speaker 1: throughout this runtime. Yeah, I want to like be looking
Speaker 1: straight ahead and I want to, like I want to
Speaker 1: feel where the director wants my eyes to go. I don't.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's like a giant Most say, I get up museum.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a museum. I want
Speaker 1: to see Matt Damon stab people.
Speaker 2: They just need to brand things better.
Speaker 3: This is a it's a big movie, and some people
Speaker 3: want to see it the best way, and it's it's
Speaker 3: hard to do.
Speaker 1: I'll put it on Jeff Keeley and complain.
Speaker 2: Oh I know what he'll say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just posted in the in our discord you
Speaker 3: look at look at how much you'd be fucking missing.
Speaker 1: If you saw seventy millimeters. Yeah, like that's fucking insane
Speaker 1: seventy millimeters.
Speaker 2: So yes, it is the same resolution.
Speaker 3: They look like the size, but you are like missing
Speaker 3: so much of the top and bottom. If you see
Speaker 3: seventy milimeters versus Imax seventy milimeters.
Speaker 2: But then if you see I'm.
Speaker 4: You see thirty five milimeter? Are you watching it on
Speaker 4: an iPhone?
Speaker 2: Watch on your CRT? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh this is uh yeah, I hate all that.
Speaker 4: That's the only way to watch it is on my CRT.
Speaker 1: I miss give me a.
Speaker 4: Four VHS feature and I have to keep putting new
Speaker 4: ones in.
Speaker 1: I just want I want just to like, as a
Speaker 1: middle finger Nolan's next movie, I wanted to shoot it
Speaker 1: all on like physical film, and you can only use
Speaker 1: old school projectors that you got to get the dust off.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's not he wouldn't do that, but.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, after twenty years of I was
Speaker 3: having to buy widescreen TVs and stuff, if they just
Speaker 3: decided to go back to squares, I'm going to fucking
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You have to have all these re releases of every
Speaker 3: game that came out during the HD era, but they
Speaker 3: have to be four by three again.
Speaker 1: That's what I want. Fuck yeah, Halo in four by
Speaker 1: three again?
Speaker 2: Okay, no, sounds all right, that's uns right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now I still have not seen that. You guys.
Speaker 1: Uh you guys saw each other a little media.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, on the equivalent of IMAX and I r L.
Speaker 4: We saw each.
Speaker 1: Other in I three sixty VR. Yeah, Mary, from your
Speaker 1: point of view, because Dan, I think you've already talked
Speaker 1: about stuff on Giant Bomb and like Giant Bomb onniences
Speaker 1: already seen it for fire Escape Crew. Set up what happened,
Speaker 1: and then tell us your side of things.
Speaker 4: These bozos came into town. They wanted to do a
Speaker 4: missed convention, which I didn't even know was a thing,
Speaker 4: but it sounds like Mysterion is an annual creention mysterium.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I had two. I had two embarrassing flubs.
Speaker 4: One is that one where I keep calling it the
Speaker 4: wrong thing. The second is is when I walked in
Speaker 4: Uh no, wait, that wasn't even one of the two.
Speaker 4: The first one was I went to a I went
Speaker 4: to the hotel where they were having the con and
Speaker 4: I paid and I was walking around. I was like,
Speaker 4: it's pretty busy and this is pretty cool, and they
Speaker 4: were like, oh, you're in the wrong con and there's
Speaker 4: two cons happening at that convention. And I bought a
Speaker 4: ticket for a card convention which were trading Pokemon card.
Speaker 3: All the Pokemon guys were given the miss guys wedgies.
Speaker 2: It was a slaughter. They were the Alps. They thought, yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: It was a massacre.
Speaker 2: It was bad.
Speaker 4: I mean everybody was avoiding the Pokemon cards guys. Those
Speaker 4: guys are muscular and they are not messing around. There
Speaker 4: was a lot of Pokemon cards to trade. I did
Speaker 4: end up walking around later and at least so it
Speaker 4: was super embarrassing, but I like walked around for a
Speaker 4: little bit being like, I didn't even know mist had
Speaker 4: a card game. This is so neat that all these
Speaker 4: all these missed enthusiasts are just walking around trading cards.
Speaker 4: I was at the wrong con. It was the same hotel,
Speaker 4: different area of the hotel.
Speaker 1: Were you saying all this to yourself out loud?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we look at all these missed cards card game.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: They're like, who is this stupid idiot? I walk into
Speaker 4: the hotel to meet you guys, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's not the right con. I was like, well, looking
Speaker 4: forward to buying a second convention ticket. We go to
Speaker 4: the second con missed con f Mysteriums Singular, and I
Speaker 4: went and I talked to a guy. Everyone was very nice.
Speaker 4: I s will say that everyone is so kind and
Speaker 4: they're obviously like lovely and I I sincerely was excited
Speaker 4: to walk into this con and meet everybody. And a
Speaker 4: very polite person said, Hi are you uh do you?
Speaker 4: Are you familiar with MYSS? I said, oh, yeah, I've
Speaker 4: played some of the first one I played Rivian and
Speaker 4: he was like, ri Ri Rivian is like an electronic car.
Speaker 1: I just saw the audit cha the other day Matt
Speaker 1: Damn was great.
Speaker 4: I embarrassed myself Multini. I went, yes, of course, Riven,
Speaker 4: I've played some of that. That's great. And then we
Speaker 4: did some puzzles. Some we did I don't know, but
Speaker 4: it was any other language numbers, miss numbers.
Speaker 1: So correct me if I'm wrong. You went to this
Speaker 1: because Mike Minatti is super intimist.
Speaker 3: Well, Mike and Jan and Grubb do a series on
Speaker 3: on Giant Bomb where they play Missed. I have never
Speaker 3: seen or played Missed at all. So, but we also
Speaker 3: we wanted to do a road trip. We was one
Speaker 3: of our incentives from like a big stream we did
Speaker 3: last year. So it's like, all right, this we get
Speaker 3: excuse to get a road trip in So we flew
Speaker 3: into San Francisco and then it's like a fourteen hour
Speaker 3: drive basically up to Portland. So I just kind of
Speaker 3: tagged on for the road trip and then went to
Speaker 3: the misconvention, and again everybody was like superretuper nice. It
Speaker 3: was like really quaint, and the way they put it
Speaker 3: together was really fun with all the like different puzzles
Speaker 3: and stuff, because you know, it seems like myst is
Speaker 3: very puzzle heavy, so it's just fun just like sit
Speaker 3: around table doing a bunch of like weird Sodoku and
Speaker 3: you know, design a mist creature. I designed mine, put
Speaker 3: it up on the wall and stuff, and then grub
Speaker 3: him nodding. Chuck did a trial of a character that
Speaker 3: was in Mystay, and that was fun to watch.
Speaker 4: The dad and it was like whether or not he
Speaker 4: was a good dad. This was actually really informative for
Speaker 4: me because as someone who's not super familiar with the
Speaker 4: Missed Universe, I like read to Wikipedia articles to at
Speaker 4: least understand what he has done. And it looks like
Speaker 4: he like trapped his sons in books, but his sons were.
Speaker 2: Evil, so illegal.
Speaker 1: Isn't that Expedition thirty three's plot too.
Speaker 2: So that's a painting. That's a painting.
Speaker 1: They it is not illegal to.
Speaker 3: Put your kids inside a book. That's what I would
Speaker 3: have said if I was on the phone. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the same lot as Jumanji.
Speaker 2: But they're in a board game.
Speaker 3: That's a board game. Yeah, and the Tron is a
Speaker 3: video game. Is miss the odyssey of.
Speaker 1: Just modern storytelling, tweaking misst miss Rivian. I'd be curious
Speaker 1: to play oud it.
Speaker 3: It is just like point and click puzzles and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. I could see that aging fairly well, Like
Speaker 3: I am kind of curious there was isn't a lot
Speaker 3: of passion for it.
Speaker 1: The Witness is considered a spiritual successor to it in
Speaker 1: some ways.
Speaker 3: Right, Like I love the Witness, I love Blueprints. You
Speaker 3: know games that, like people say, are like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is totally like a mislike experience. So I could see
Speaker 3: myself like it, and it's just it was like a PC
Speaker 3: thing back then that you know, I didn't play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see it some aspects of not having aged.
Speaker 4: Well, it's still good. I think that what's really fun
Speaker 4: about the universe as well, or at least the con
Speaker 4: is that a lot of the people there was like
Speaker 4: another game that I wasn't familiar with. But there's almost
Speaker 4: like an open world game where you could play with
Speaker 4: your buds. And that's really what makes the con active
Speaker 4: is all these people made friends in the open world
Speaker 4: version of in the Missed universe, and that I think
Speaker 4: that's a huge community build for them, is that they
Speaker 4: all played in this server together for a long time.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was like an online Missed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not. I don't think it's there anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, apparently that was like very popular. Now. When
Speaker 4: we were doing the sudoku, Dan said, I challenge all
Speaker 4: of you to that I'm going to beat your times
Speaker 4: in sudoku, and got really into it. We all were
Speaker 4: like heads down and then it looked up and you
Speaker 4: were gone.
Speaker 3: Because I won you and I didn't want to rub
Speaker 3: it in. It was a nice quiet convention. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to be the big aha I beat you, so
Speaker 3: like I just I won. I got the victory in
Speaker 3: my mind, which is enough. I don't need to, you know,
Speaker 3: brag or anything like that. So I just set it down.
Speaker 3: I threw it away. Actually I didn't want to make
Speaker 3: anyone feel bad. And then I walked out of the convention.
Speaker 3: It would be out of characters for him to gloat,
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, I was being polite. So what else
Speaker 3: did you in Portland?
Speaker 4: After? In between the con I took them to some
Speaker 4: good dinners. It's always fun challenging myself to what the
Speaker 4: the boys will eat because Dan likes I'm gonna speak
Speaker 4: for you, Dan. I think Dan likes to eat well
Speaker 4: and to eat like nice foods, not super fancy or anything.
Speaker 4: But I think you like a good restaurant, and I
Speaker 4: think you have dives. I like dives to you like
Speaker 4: dives too, But I think you appreciate a good restaurant.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, whereas I'm not sure some of them do.
Speaker 4: I think it's very particular of eating like pretty much
Speaker 4: meat and cheese.
Speaker 2: Yes you do? Yeah, wow much?
Speaker 4: I say that was that Dan soundboard? That's crazy, Yeah, weird, weird,
Speaker 4: that's Minati.
Speaker 1: I've heard he's picky, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's way worse than I am. Definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say you've gotten better over the years, Dan, like.
Speaker 2: I've gotten much.
Speaker 3: I think even at my worst, which was probably like
Speaker 3: my twenties and obviously younger, I don't think I'm as
Speaker 3: bad as like Manati is now, I don't think I've
Speaker 3: ever been to that level. What about grubbing jan They're
Speaker 3: normal human beings, Okay, cool, Yeah, I mean relatively to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've got like slight tangent.
Speaker 1: Like when I travel for work, We've got some coworkers
Speaker 1: who they'll travel to major food cities and then just
Speaker 1: go to like the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 3: That's what drove me fucking insane. When we went to
Speaker 3: New Orleans, I, me and my dad did for his
Speaker 3: fiftieth birthday. And it's like I was so excited because
Speaker 3: I've been there a few times.
Speaker 2: At this point. I was like, I got all these places.
Speaker 3: You're gonna love this fried chicken place, places that aren't
Speaker 3: like fancy restaurants because he would hate that. And then
Speaker 3: it's just we were comped at Hera's because he gambles
Speaker 3: a lot and so he had free buffets there, and
Speaker 3: it was just like I'd be like, all right, Dad,
Speaker 3: so for dinner night, we're gonna go to this place.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get po boys over here. He's like what, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: We're just eating at the casino. And I was like, Dad,
Speaker 3: that's your birthday I'll cover it. I got some plans.
Speaker 3: You're gonna fuck. It's just a burgern Fries place, nothing fancy,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna love it. But it's it's free. We
Speaker 3: we got the buffet here and so it's just free
Speaker 3: fucking meal.
Speaker 2: He wanted to have it. The Haras Casino is dead.
Speaker 1: The kind of person who like, if there's an open bar,
Speaker 1: he's obligated to get hammered.
Speaker 3: If there's something free, it is like he's just gonna
Speaker 3: go no sound yes.
Speaker 1: The joke, it's like, well it's open bar, Like mathematically
Speaker 1: I have to get drunk.
Speaker 3: You'd be losing money. Not too Yeah, I I subscribe
Speaker 3: to that part.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but yeah, like it's it's people tell me
Speaker 1: they will go to like cheesecake factory when they're traveling.
Speaker 3: Or that's I'm sorry, right wait, no, that's the wrong button.
Speaker 4: But my voice don't use any of the buttons. They're
Speaker 4: all the wrong button. I don't want any of them.
Speaker 2: That is one hundred percent of nay.
Speaker 3: Like we will be in New York City and he
Speaker 3: will if he sees like we have like trying to
Speaker 3: horse blinder him, like down street so he doesn't see
Speaker 3: a Margaritaville, an olive garden, or a cheesecake factory, because
Speaker 3: he will one need to go to that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil a surprise, but I just it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was super into like tiki bars,
Speaker 1: and I have a few spots I would like to
Speaker 1: surprise him with next time he's in town.
Speaker 4: He showed me his teaky collection because he keeps he
Speaker 4: buys mugs from the different ones that he goes to,
Speaker 4: and it's funny because they're like kind of just on
Speaker 4: this nonchalant shelf, like they're not in a beautiful case
Speaker 4: or anything. They're just kind of like hanging out on
Speaker 4: a shelf. And I said that you can drink them,
Speaker 4: and yeah, that's what I said, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 4: these are display only you drink at.
Speaker 3: They're not a nice yea, I agree, go of mine.
Speaker 3: Like he took me to the t bar at Disney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He took me to the Trader Sam's at Disney, and
Speaker 3: I wound up buying a couple of the souvenir ones there.
Speaker 3: But like Mary, I think deeply concerned him because he's
Speaker 3: going to the super special Disney bar or whatever the
Speaker 3: expedition thirty three bar or whatever, that it's hard to
Speaker 3: get in. It's like this whole secret thing. And Mary
Speaker 3: explained thirty three. I think, yeah, yeah, and it's like
Speaker 3: with the one thing at like Disneyland he's never done.
Speaker 3: And uh so she explained to him that they have
Speaker 3: all these like seasonal and like you know.
Speaker 2: Teeky mugs and stuff. Yeah, she's been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one of them.
Speaker 4: I couldn't give a shit about it, but the fact
Speaker 4: that like he's so into it, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been there, no problem.
Speaker 1: It was like, you pen, there are people in the
Speaker 1: world that are like aching to get into a bar
Speaker 1: in Disney World.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh you know, yes, no, no, this is like
Speaker 2: a life goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one's really difficult because I think someone has
Speaker 4: to sponsor you to get in. So it's like really
Speaker 4: really hard to get in.
Speaker 2: And he's gonna spend like three thousand dollars on tik mugs.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I had.
Speaker 1: Good for it, good for them, good for all the
Speaker 1: people are sponsoring others to get into this bar. That
Speaker 1: those are the same people who I think those are
Speaker 1: the people who went to clubs in the meatpacking district
Speaker 1: and then had kids and now go there in Disney World,
Speaker 1: who because you need sponsors to get into a lot
Speaker 1: of the clubs there, like so.
Speaker 3: Mary said, it wasn't Mary, you said, it wasn't even
Speaker 3: like that special, right, It's just I.
Speaker 4: Think it's a nice dinner, and I think that for
Speaker 4: Disney enthusiasts, it's probably incredible. It's really well decorated. But
Speaker 4: I I didn't appreciate it because I didn't really understand
Speaker 4: it at the time that it was like the most
Speaker 4: exclusive thing to get into. It was just a girl
Speaker 4: friends of mine's birthday and I was just, you know,
Speaker 4: I was I was there to support her and her
Speaker 4: birthday wishes and that's what she wanted. And I was like, cool,
Speaker 4: we'll go to this bar. And then when I was there,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this is a big deal, but
Speaker 4: I didn't really process it at the time. I think
Speaker 4: he'll actually like it more because he'll actually, you know, he'll.
Speaker 3: Oh, he will definitely like it more. Yes, every horse,
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, every time you sees a hidden
Speaker 3: Mickey mickeys, oh that's a big thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a brief They hide the Mickey's.
Speaker 2: He taught me a lot about it.
Speaker 3: I've not been to Disneyland with him twice and I've
Speaker 3: learned a lot, and honestly, it's I it. If you
Speaker 3: were into the Disney thing, it's like it's clever stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like oh, in the hat in a mansion, you
Speaker 3: look down and there's like, oh if you noticed, like
Speaker 3: these plates are arranged to look like, you know, one
Speaker 3: plate and then two smaller ones for the ears and
Speaker 3: so like being imagine being a kid or a forty
Speaker 3: year old Mike Manati. It probably feels like magic walking
Speaker 3: through and it's just, oh, I've got a head Mickey
Speaker 3: ear and like, I get it. That would be fun.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a hidden Mickey and my Lacroix right now,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Did you guys go
Speaker 1: to any dive bars in Portland while you're there?
Speaker 2: Dive bars? Mary? You went with the guys to a
Speaker 2: clown bar.
Speaker 4: I took the boys to Creepies, which why were you
Speaker 4: not there?
Speaker 1: Did you leave? By?
Speaker 3: That was the I got up at five am to
Speaker 3: run fourteen miles, so I did not drink the night before.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We always anytime we want Dan to leave, we just
Speaker 4: do a sudoku competition and he just disappeared because he's.
Speaker 1: A coward in Victory.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: We did a creepies bar and I don't know if
Speaker 4: you guys talked about this, but there's just Portland's very weird.
Speaker 4: It's known for that. And as we were going by,
Speaker 4: there was just a bunch of people wearing gnome hats,
Speaker 4: all gnoming it up, and Manati went right up to
Speaker 4: them and was like, can I have a gnomat? And
Speaker 4: they went yes, and they put a nome hat on
Speaker 4: his head and he hung out with them for a
Speaker 4: little bit and then went into Creepies with his little
Speaker 4: gnome hat, and there's some good footage of him rocking
Speaker 4: a gnome hat and Creepies.
Speaker 3: I'm add thing the travelog right now and I'm not
Speaker 3: quite to that part yet, but I've like moved the
Speaker 3: files in. I'm like, oh, okay, it seems like some
Speaker 3: stuff was going on that night, and that seems fun.
Speaker 4: Blends right in Creepies is what it sounds like. It's
Speaker 4: a basically like a clown focused themed bar, so there's
Speaker 4: a shit ton of clowns all on the walls, on
Speaker 4: the bar. It has a painting where the eyes, look
Speaker 4: around and like move you know, weird shit like.
Speaker 1: That choose my mind. I don't want to hang out
Speaker 1: with Mike Noddy if like everything he wants to do
Speaker 1: is like my nightmare.
Speaker 4: I urged him.
Speaker 3: Hanging out with Mike Manatty's a good time, Mike, like I, God,
Speaker 3: I would like to see it.
Speaker 2: I would like to watch it, like mar It it's
Speaker 2: a good time, right.
Speaker 4: I think very likes to get a He's.
Speaker 1: I just like I feel like I don't want to
Speaker 1: go to know a clown bar though.
Speaker 4: Or he was nice when you guys were all gone,
Speaker 4: he stood around. He stuck around for the day, which
Speaker 4: he said was because he didn't want to wake up early.
Speaker 4: So Manati apparently like stays up really late and doesn't
Speaker 4: like to wake up early. You guys had to flight
Speaker 4: and you had to leave at like nine in the morning.
Speaker 4: But Manati was there literally all day. So he finished
Speaker 4: the con, which I think is adorable. Like he went
Speaker 4: back to the con without making content. He just went
Speaker 4: to hang out with his people, just so sweet. I
Speaker 4: picked him up from the hotel. I took him to
Speaker 4: all the things that I thought he would want to
Speaker 4: see on a final day, I took him to Lardo's,
Speaker 4: which is a sandwich shop. We had a little laugh
Speaker 4: at the fact that I could take him anywhere, and
Speaker 4: I took him to Lardo's. He got a sandwich. I
Speaker 4: took him to Voodoo Donuts and he got a donut.
Speaker 4: That was he he wanted to go there. I took
Speaker 4: him to Flanders Street has he wanted to see some
Speaker 4: Simpson stuff, and I took him to a tiki bar
Speaker 4: and he got his little tiki drinks. He loved it.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a very nice tiki bar
Speaker 4: in Portland, and I was surprised he knew a lot
Speaker 4: about it. I guess he knew there. The owner is
Speaker 4: also made tiki bars that he's been to.
Speaker 2: It's Smuggler's Cove. I think. I think I went there
Speaker 2: with him, and it's the world.
Speaker 4: I don't understand. So I was like, great, you guys
Speaker 4: know each other. But they had a nice little talk
Speaker 4: about about tiki bars for tiki enthusiasts and yeah, and
Speaker 4: we had a good time.
Speaker 1: If he comes to New York anytime soon, we should
Speaker 1: go to Sunken Harbor Club. It is my favorite tiki
Speaker 1: bar bar in the world.
Speaker 2: I think I'd love to go with both you guys.
Speaker 2: That'd be funny.
Speaker 1: It's a third floor like speakeasy tiki club above like
Speaker 1: a Martinian steak restaurant, but once you get up there,
Speaker 1: it's the kitchiest thing. And they have like noise makers
Speaker 1: doing wave sounds, so it's designed like you're in the
Speaker 1: hold of a ship. And the drinks are awesome. I
Speaker 1: have Garrett Henry's cock til book. He it's my favorite
Speaker 1: cocktail of all time. I think I made you guys
Speaker 1: at the winter in La at some point the question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: Like that orange one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, but sounds like a fun trip.
Speaker 4: He had a good I think everybody had a good time. Oh,
Speaker 4: we did the meet up. The meet up was so lovely.
Speaker 4: We met a lot of really wonderful people and I
Speaker 4: was I was glad.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a blast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mary, having you there was was such a great bonus,
Speaker 3: and like it was gonna be fun to do the
Speaker 3: road trip and stuff anyway, but like we have to
Speaker 3: spend like a lot of time with you, which was
Speaker 3: a blast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was great. You think when you
Speaker 4: do that much traveling and you spend that much time
Speaker 4: with people, you'd be like, this is a lot of
Speaker 4: time with these people. But I was like, this is great.
Speaker 4: Even the last day when I was hungover and I
Speaker 4: was at a teaki bar and I would not choose
Speaker 4: to do that with my Sunday, and I was like,
Speaker 4: this is great, Like we're having a good time. This
Speaker 4: guy's really into teaky shit. I think it's because you
Speaker 4: guys are so into your hobbies, Like it's just kind
Speaker 4: of fun listening to you guys talk, you know, like
Speaker 4: jabber on about whatever crap you're interested in.
Speaker 3: Okay, give a sign one a passion to each of
Speaker 3: the owners of Giant Bomb a passion. Yes, if you
Speaker 3: have to assign one, he said, we're so passionate about
Speaker 3: the things in our hobbies. What's the number one defining
Speaker 3: one for each of us?
Speaker 4: Gaming? For all of you? Okay, you're really into running
Speaker 4: right now, and you like you're so into it that
Speaker 4: you were like, I have to go to bed early
Speaker 4: and I can't drink because I'm running. I'm running fifteen
Speaker 4: miles so it's a long way. Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Like you're very into it right now and you're really
Speaker 4: into like all the different things that you need to
Speaker 4: do in order to be a very good runner. You're
Speaker 4: not half assed running, You're like fully committed to running.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. What else? Uh, He's always talking about his
Speaker 4: key kids, and we did we bought, we bought a
Speaker 4: little uh, we bought a little gift for each of
Speaker 4: his kids so they wouldn't fight over them, not that
Speaker 4: they would fight, and they and it was really cute
Speaker 4: to watch how passionate he was about making sure that
Speaker 4: his kids get something a little extra from each con
Speaker 4: that he goes to. And so we made little phone
Speaker 4: designed chochkes for his kids and that was so cute.
Speaker 4: He's very into it. It's also comes up a lot
Speaker 4: when he's like, these are the reasons that I have
Speaker 4: to like, uh, you know, be on on target and
Speaker 4: like get all my shit done. I got kids. I
Speaker 4: got to make sure I'm taking care of them. I
Speaker 4: love that for him. Manati was again the Tiki thing
Speaker 4: was shocking to me.
Speaker 2: He's number one.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, look, we're saying number one for each
Speaker 3: one Disney number one. There we go, there, we're outside
Speaker 3: of gaming Disney.
Speaker 4: He's a freak, yes, and Chuck's fairly.
Speaker 3: Normal Chuck's got a lot of passions. He knows a
Speaker 3: lot about a lot of things.
Speaker 4: Give me the freakiest thing about Chuck.
Speaker 2: Oh, dear god.
Speaker 3: He knows like all the like programming stuff, and he's
Speaker 3: like a hacker website kind of guy.
Speaker 2: He loves it.
Speaker 3: He like travels with a fancy like little it looks
Speaker 3: like a pencil sharpener, but it like grinds up coffee
Speaker 3: nuggets or whatever. What else he he knows tiki bars
Speaker 3: and stuff. He'll like drive across the country to pick
Speaker 3: up a juke box. He uh, He's just one of
Speaker 3: those guys that dives super deep in everything.
Speaker 2: He dives into.
Speaker 3: You know, Dave Clap, I could see that, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: somewhere in front of ours. Okay, and then Bonus Jan
Speaker 3: and Backlar they weren't on the.
Speaker 4: Trip, but they weren't on the trip, you know them.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could do Backlars.
Speaker 4: Backlar has a boat, and he's a big boat man,
Speaker 4: and he likes to drive his boat, uh and and
Speaker 4: do speedy boat stuff. I think boats are a huge hobby.
Speaker 4: I know that about him.
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he had a boat either, I just
Speaker 2: own pinball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say pinball.
Speaker 2: He strikes me as a boat guy. I could see
Speaker 2: backlar being a boat guy.
Speaker 4: I feel like I know them better than you do.
Speaker 2: I want to try to hide it from us because
Speaker 2: he thought we would make fun of him.
Speaker 1: This is awesome.
Speaker 4: What if he what if what if he rented it
Speaker 4: one time?
Speaker 2: He told you he had a boat.
Speaker 4: I just know that he boated once.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait being on a boat.
Speaker 2: We've all been on boats. This is a key being
Speaker 2: a boat guy.
Speaker 1: We've all been on I almost just texted him do
Speaker 1: you have a boat? And if he said no, why
Speaker 1: I would have been like, oh, Mary told me you
Speaker 1: own a boat, And he's like, no, I just went
Speaker 1: on a boat one.
Speaker 2: Well, let's just start a thing.
Speaker 3: Now, let's just start a thing where we all just actually,
Speaker 3: he has a yacht and he's very particular about it,
Speaker 3: and everyone could just repeat that like it's fact.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a boat guy, right, Mike, Mike, you texted
Speaker 2: him do you have a boat? Right? Uh? Yeah? Should
Speaker 2: it be verbad him? Should we do the same thing?
Speaker 1: No, I just said do you have a boat. You
Speaker 1: should say like we.
Speaker 2: Say how's your boat?
Speaker 1: No, be like like tight sails and smooth and easterly
Speaker 1: winds and tight sails.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, Bud.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm just gonna say how's your boat?
Speaker 2: How's your boat? And Mary?
Speaker 1: You texted him?
Speaker 2: You text them and be like.
Speaker 4: Already he's already messaging me.
Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, now I'm message. Really that was quick
Speaker 2: as ship.
Speaker 4: He sent me your text? What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Wait? You Mike's text?
Speaker 1: Why did he send it to you and not Dan?
Speaker 4: He says we're best friends these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get Vinnie to text and be like,
Speaker 1: oh sorry, So well there's there's what's the saying? There's
Speaker 1: the two best days of your life or the day
Speaker 1: you buy a boat and the day you sell it?
Speaker 2: No, sure sure, backl knows yeah he'll never sell that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's the name is Mike?
Speaker 1: The the Super Mario time?
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah back super Mario time, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like maritime Yeah, it's super Yeah, it's a triple meeting.
Speaker 2: It's it's how he pronounces it.
Speaker 1: Those Long Island boys, Jersey boys from I know where
Speaker 1: he lives.
Speaker 2: He does say Mario instead of Mario. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I knew that but I he didn't respond. He just
Speaker 1: he's message Mary trying I guess fight his battles for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get anything either. He only texted Mary.
Speaker 3: And is she the one that didn't text him about
Speaker 3: the boat.
Speaker 4: We're just laughing me and Jeff about this thing that
Speaker 4: happened on his boat the other day.
Speaker 1: Oh huh, barnacles and turpentine.
Speaker 4: He's a real This is a real boat tripped.
Speaker 2: Over his yacht scarf.
Speaker 1: Little little d got stuck in the bilge pump again.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 1: That I can't imagine him on a boat, But if
Speaker 1: he has one, I'm gonna be pissed that he didn't
Speaker 1: invite me on it.
Speaker 4: You guys aren't close as we are.
Speaker 1: It's entirely possible.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Backlart's easier to name the things he doesn't like than
Speaker 3: things he's passionate about. I got pinball, certainly hockey. Pinball
Speaker 3: and hockey are one two for him, I think. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, then there's a keyboards, keyboards. He's got passions.
Speaker 3: He's got some some out there ones.
Speaker 1: We've all got passions, varying degrees, Tiki, Mike not. He
Speaker 1: mightn't like my pen holder. I scored in a well
Speaker 1: Fleet Massachusetts, a diving helmet with a little penholder. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's got tiki vibes. Yeah, we we we
Speaker 1: design our beach house with Tiki. Now I don't have
Speaker 1: a beach house and just trying to channel my back
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 4: All my boats are decorated with Tiki's Yeah is uh.
Speaker 1: He takes his boat to his lake house every single weekend,
Speaker 1: and then the lake house has a helipad from which
Speaker 1: he flies to his ocean shorehouse.
Speaker 2: Right, he's frowning the whole time he's on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, anyway, you want to talk about video games? Sure, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, before we dive into games we've been playing,
Speaker 1: we've got to back on our updates since the break.
Speaker 3: We do and I don't know what to make of
Speaker 3: the okay, So I said, how's your boat? And Backler
Speaker 3: says doct I'm assuming and Mike you texted him and what.
Speaker 2: Do you get?
Speaker 1: I said, do you have a boat? And then he said, uh, yes,
Speaker 1: I have two, And then I said I only have
Speaker 1: the one. Let's race them. And then he says, you
Speaker 1: don't want any of my boat? And it's a boat
Speaker 1: with three outboard motors.
Speaker 3: Mean okay? And then Mary, did you have an exchange? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he texted you.
Speaker 4: Hi, best friend, and I said, hey, bestie, the boys
Speaker 4: don't believe me about your boats. And he was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I have so many, so so, so,
Speaker 4: so so many, and we are laughing about you guys
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of any of this.
Speaker 3: Didn't one of you say during the break that he
Speaker 3: said the name of his boat, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? Mary?
Speaker 4: The name of his boat that I know very well
Speaker 4: is the s Shade Chaser.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, either you're bullshitting and Backlar's playing along, or
Speaker 3: Backlar told you about his boat to the level that
Speaker 3: you now think he's a boat enthusiast and he's hiding
Speaker 3: it from the rest of us because he thinks we'll
Speaker 3: give him shit, I.
Speaker 1: Know, into his house. And he didn't have a boat
Speaker 1: like there on a trailer. Okay, Hey, you absolutely keep
Speaker 1: boats on a trailer. If it's a pontoon boat or something,
Speaker 1: you can bring my like three of my fucking.
Speaker 4: It has three engines, Mike, you don't know boats.
Speaker 2: He told me.
Speaker 3: He assumes it's docked, so it might be docked. If
Speaker 3: he has a secret boat, he might have a secret
Speaker 3: boat house.
Speaker 4: He has so many boats he has to keep them
Speaker 4: in some kind of boat dock situation.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to think about this. That was
Speaker 3: your first answer about Backler. Everyone else you give the straight,
Speaker 3: real answer, and you said Backlar is a huge boat guy.
Speaker 2: And I can see it. I can see it. I
Speaker 2: also see it himating it from us.
Speaker 1: You subscribe to Giant Bomb. It's all going to the
Speaker 1: boat fuel.
Speaker 4: Into boat fuel.
Speaker 2: And wax and pumps. Uh, the.
Speaker 4: Ones that look like a banana and.
Speaker 1: Parrots aren't cheap parrots for his shoulder and and a
Speaker 1: plank and uh. And he drinks and and treasure chests
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. And and rapeeers and and sabers and cutlasses
Speaker 1: and birds mess.
Speaker 3: Okay, now this is getting further from something I can
Speaker 3: picture Backal are doing. He's not really swashbuckling.
Speaker 2: I don't think he is.
Speaker 4: He a pirate.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a pirate.
Speaker 1: Who would fit in on a pirate ship. The most
Speaker 1: grub would yes, visually yes, yeah, and also just the
Speaker 1: whole deal. I think he would do fine on a.
Speaker 3: Pirate Chip, what the whole what about him? I think
Speaker 3: you can just adjust the situations. I mean he helped
Speaker 3: me when we were confronted with a lady on a
Speaker 3: lot of drugs.
Speaker 2: He thought I stole her stuff.
Speaker 3: And I think he grub handles himself well in a
Speaker 3: lot of situations.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, Yeah, I think it'd be a good he'd
Speaker 2: be a good pirate. I think, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Pirates are known to be really level headed and to
Speaker 4: never get upset.
Speaker 3: They're cool characters, aren't They always drunk and happy and
Speaker 3: singing shanties.
Speaker 1: They're also like pillaging and raping and really, I.
Speaker 3: I really, I don't think I've understood pirates this whole time.
Speaker 2: They've been romanticized.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I just haven't taken in a lot of
Speaker 3: pirate media.
Speaker 4: Love the vision of pirates. They seem like they have
Speaker 4: such a good time, speaking.
Speaker 1: Of taking something old and making it new. Mary, you
Speaker 1: and I played Halo campaign. They've all, uh, did you? So?
Speaker 1: Where are you? Did you play the whole thing or
Speaker 1: did you just try it out and jump out?
Speaker 4: I I don't think I could have played the whole
Speaker 4: thing yet. I just started. I would like to. I
Speaker 4: would like to complain and that I would like to
Speaker 4: tell you that I like it.
Speaker 1: Can I hear that you need to have one opinion?
Speaker 4: I am upset?
Speaker 2: Are you a referee? Now let it pass you.
Speaker 4: Most people when they play Halo would like to play
Speaker 4: it with another person co op split screen, and it
Speaker 4: is available for consoles in PC. I got a steam code,
Speaker 4: I set it up on the computer. I got excited,
Speaker 4: I got snacks, I got drinks. I set it up,
Speaker 4: I turned it on. The PC version does not have
Speaker 4: split screen.
Speaker 2: That's so stupid, but console does?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Does that have four that that's so dumb that PC
Speaker 3: wouldn't have us so dumb.
Speaker 4: You can play co op, but you need to do
Speaker 4: it online from like another PC, So we had to
Speaker 4: buy another cop be, which like really pissed me off
Speaker 4: because I would have I would have gotten it on
Speaker 4: console to save that experience, but I didn't know. And
Speaker 4: then we had already you know, like I had already
Speaker 4: set it up, like I had already like gone through
Speaker 4: all the motions, so we just played it.
Speaker 1: There's a this is sort of like kissing it, but no.
Speaker 1: As a PC gamer published a story seven hours ago,
Speaker 1: Apparently a mod was published that makes split screen on
Speaker 1: Steam Super eas it's not it seven hours ago.
Speaker 4: I want to sure, I played it over the weekend.
Speaker 4: It's not what they intended, and it is like a
Speaker 4: bootleg version of it.
Speaker 1: YEA, sure, it's annoying Halo Studios didn't include it. For sure.
Speaker 4: It's fucking annoying that a game that is notorious for
Speaker 4: playing split screen has a PC version that doesn't allow
Speaker 4: split screen, but the other two versions do. I find
Speaker 4: that so confusing as a consumer. That bothered me deeply.
Speaker 4: And I also think it's dumb, Like I think it's
Speaker 4: a there's no reason, there's no just le reason that
Speaker 4: if you're gonna have a split screen on all the
Speaker 4: other versions, that PC is the one where they're like, well,
Speaker 4: we need it to connect it to a Microsoft account
Speaker 4: and only one stream username per Microsoft account, so we
Speaker 4: can't do it. It obviously is like some fan dangled rule
Speaker 4: that forced their hand, And I think it's dumb and
Speaker 4: that makes me really mad. That being said, it's really
Speaker 4: fun to play Halo again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Halo Imax got its claws in the Halo system.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a stupid rule.
Speaker 3: The Microsoft account thing is a pain in the ass
Speaker 3: because it's like I got it on PlayStation because that's
Speaker 3: what Kayla gets everything on. I'm gonna play a co
Speaker 3: op with her, and like you.
Speaker 4: Didn't get on Steam because you fucking kept you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, because you can't fucking play it.
Speaker 3: I had my own frustration where I didn't get to
Speaker 3: play it yesterday because I got it, and uh, Kayla's
Speaker 3: gonna wait till she can buy it physically, and so
Speaker 3: I was like, we were going to stream it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna stream it last night, and she said, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold off. It's not I she would have
Speaker 3: had to buy the premium digital edition or whatever. So
Speaker 3: we delayed it basically, and so I already had it installed.
Speaker 3: I did my stupid Microsoft account thing and I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, I guess I'll just jump into multiplayer.
Speaker 2: Halo multiplayer it's classic. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get into some blood Guld and capsure
Speaker 3: the Flag. It's going to be great. I go to
Speaker 3: the main menu and I'm like, Campaign Evolved. I see, okay,
Speaker 3: so there's no multiplayer. It turns out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, I do have a question for you, Mary.
Speaker 1: Is the split screen not in the game Pass version
Speaker 1: on Xbox or did you do you not know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You can just crossplay it. Yeah, do you have game passay?
Speaker 3: You don't have game Pass?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: No kisching, no kissing, detect, didn't can't cash.
Speaker 4: It, no kishing. I've lapsed on my game pass, so
Speaker 4: there wasn't There's not like really a strong reason to
Speaker 4: have it for me right now. So no. Also, I
Speaker 4: believe so when Steam you have to connect it to
Speaker 4: a Microsoft account, right, I think that would be the
Speaker 4: same account.
Speaker 2: Oh did detect that you're already using or like ones?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've don't know in the past if you I was saying,
Speaker 1: if you had game Pass, why didn't you just play
Speaker 1: split screen on your Xbox? But if you don't have, right,
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, because I'm I'm playing
Speaker 1: it on I have not re upped game passed. Mine
Speaker 1: just hasn't run out for another few months, so I'm
Speaker 1: just playing it on Xbox through game Pass. But I
Speaker 1: wasn't playing split screen, so I was curious if it
Speaker 1: somehow wasn't in that version.
Speaker 3: But it seems like a pain in the ass. But
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it is still super fucking fun to play.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very excited fun.
Speaker 4: It's still a joy, uh you you know, playing it
Speaker 4: relives a lot of the feelings of yesteryear. It's nice
Speaker 4: to like get back into the wart Hog and it
Speaker 4: still kind of controls the way you'd like it to.
Speaker 4: It looks great, looks fucking great. They must have redid
Speaker 4: all the art, I guess because it's crazy it's.
Speaker 1: The Unreal five or whatever engine.
Speaker 4: You did not give the face of some one who
Speaker 4: feels like it looks great.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, I think it looks good. There
Speaker 1: is a weird thing and I'm trying to remember what
Speaker 1: what other game I noticed this in where there's just
Speaker 1: this weird like blurring effect where I feel like they're
Speaker 1: trying to replicate the way your eyes work, like with
Speaker 1: motion blurring.
Speaker 2: Let me, I want I'm curious, is that Boca?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always see that, like the game
Speaker 1: looks good, but for there's something that seems I don't
Speaker 1: think uncanny is the word, but there's just a little
Speaker 1: bit of like a weird sheen over things that kind
Speaker 1: of like sterilizes it too much.
Speaker 2: But but I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not like I hate looking at the game by
Speaker 1: any means, and I'm having a blast. Like. It's also
Speaker 1: the they added like a couple hours worth of prolog
Speaker 1: missions before the Pillar of Autumn.
Speaker 3: I wonder, like, would you recommend like playing those, like
Speaker 3: if Kayla's never played a Halo game, like, because that's
Speaker 3: the thing is like Pillar Bottom is like one of
Speaker 3: those all timer first levels, so like, would it be
Speaker 3: better for her to have that be her first experience
Speaker 3: or should we do so? Maybe just beat the game
Speaker 3: and they have a bonus at the.
Speaker 1: The prolog missions are especially cool if you've played Reach
Speaker 1: and want to see stuff that happens between that and
Speaker 1: interesting Common Evolved. But Pillar of Autumn is still like
Speaker 1: the intro, It's like, wake up Chief, you do the analog,
Speaker 1: here's how you look, and then the Covenant assaults the ship.
Speaker 1: That second mission is still one of my favorite treeter
Speaker 1: missions of any game ever just called Halo.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, they've also retroactively added some stuff. You
Speaker 1: can sprint now, which I like in general, but you
Speaker 1: can also I think I was reading Michael Hyam's review
Speaker 1: on IGN and he was saying something that I was
Speaker 1: kind of grappling with in that there are a few
Speaker 1: spots where I think I just didn't want to keep
Speaker 1: doing that litany of room after room in assault on
Speaker 1: the control room and then the library with the flood.
Speaker 1: That mission is still not great. The three four three
Speaker 1: Guilty Spark mission where you're you're you drop into the
Speaker 1: jungle and it's basically alien and your aliens.
Speaker 2: No, not what movie am I thinking? An alien?
Speaker 1: You find the footage of what's like happened and the aliens?
Speaker 4: The the main plot is that there's aliens there, There's
Speaker 4: something there. What's the name of that film?
Speaker 2: It could be anything, really, it'll come to me Bill.
Speaker 2: Bill Paxton was in it. Twister, Oh, No, Independence Day,
Speaker 2: that was damn it.
Speaker 1: There are parts you could just kind of sprint right
Speaker 1: through and no one's making no one's saying you have to.
Speaker 1: But there are missions in that game that have not
Speaker 1: aged particularly well, but they stayed faithful to it. They
Speaker 1: also added some weapons. They added the Needler rifle, They
Speaker 1: added the you can now use the fuel rod cannon.
Speaker 1: I forgot you couldn't use that in the first game.
Speaker 2: To the campaign, they've added weapons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that they added later in the series that you
Speaker 1: could not use the Energy Sword. You fought at least
Speaker 1: with Energy swords who were using Energy swords, but they didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: introduced the sword to Halo two. So that's cool. Like
Speaker 1: I appreciate having those toys back in the first campaign,
Speaker 1: but it still feels great, Like it's still a very
Speaker 1: well paced campaign overall, like that story is. It's ultimately
Speaker 1: a simple story, but it's effective. It's like the air
Speaker 1: of mystery around that first game as opposed to, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're attacking Earth, it's all out defense, and like Survival
Speaker 1: in two and three is like you get into the
Speaker 1: supernatural elements with the flood and Grave Mind and then
Speaker 1: four or five Infinite they kind of go all their
Speaker 1: own directions, but one was still such a like it
Speaker 1: reminds me of Alien in the sense that looking back
Speaker 1: at the first the thing that started it all, it's
Speaker 1: so much more focused and like localized and mysterious before
Speaker 1: it got all out warfare. Like there's nothing wrong with Aliens.
Speaker 1: That's an incredible movie in its own right. But it's
Speaker 1: nice to go back and replay this because I love
Speaker 1: replaying these games. Yeah, I'm having a blast.
Speaker 3: I've really been looking forward to this ever since Kayla
Speaker 3: and I went through all the Gears games, because since
Speaker 3: she was such a like hardcore PlayStation fan and we
Speaker 3: never had PC, so she was just like all Nintendo
Speaker 3: in PlayStation. Basically, this is a huge blind spot for her,
Speaker 3: and Gears was such a blast to go through, so
Speaker 3: I almost wonderful I'll go through too, and Beyond master
Speaker 3: Chief Collection is not on PS five, is it.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see if she'll turn on an Xbox for that,
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It seems like every headline you see about Xbox is
Speaker 3: just like it sounds like a company on fire all
Speaker 3: the time, and so it's like this year it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: well there's a Halo that'll be fun. I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to the new Gears and then that I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe just all goes to shit and maybe this is
Speaker 3: the last hurrah with like the two like most iconic
Speaker 3: franchises of the brand, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I don't know, like even going back
Speaker 1: to Halo Infinite. They want to your point Mary about
Speaker 1: this the split screen on the Steam version being annoying.
Speaker 1: They launched Halo Infinite without co op, right, and then
Speaker 1: they never ever got around to adding it didn't. If
Speaker 1: memory serves, I need this insane. We should confirm that,
Speaker 1: but to not launch with that, and to Mary's point,
Speaker 1: a franchise that was basically like built on co op
Speaker 1: even before Halo two came around and online the Sparks
Speaker 1: Xbox Live. Sorry they did it.
Speaker 3: It does have online co op, it does not have
Speaker 3: local split screen. I think I remember this because I
Speaker 3: love the idea of the open world, and like Bonk
Speaker 3: and I both got it when it came out, and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh shit, we would like we want to
Speaker 3: plan a good amount of multiplayer together, but.
Speaker 2: It's like it's so stupid.
Speaker 3: We can't, Like, it'd be so fun to explore this
Speaker 3: open world together in a Halo game.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think they launched with the online co
Speaker 1: op though, but they added.
Speaker 2: No, no, no online multi We did online multiplayer right.
Speaker 1: Right right, saying but they now have online co op, yes,
Speaker 1: but no split screen. I thought they launched even without
Speaker 1: online co op, which was baffling to me.
Speaker 2: They did launch with that on That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They had online death match multiple.
Speaker 1: Correct, right, right right, okay, yea, I was okay, I
Speaker 1: was correct in that regard, which is just crazy to me,
Speaker 1: Like it's.
Speaker 4: The game, yeah, and they launched it without it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so annoying to me that they like they
Speaker 1: could just go back to basics with whatever the next
Speaker 1: Halo game would be and kill it and just like
Speaker 1: local split screen. We were talking about joking about going
Speaker 1: back to four to three ratio, like go back to
Speaker 1: what people loved about these shooters in two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: That yeah, I mean, Splitzkerm was such a huge part
Speaker 3: of it. I remember when Halo one came out. I
Speaker 3: distinctly remember, like because I didn't have an Xbox and
Speaker 3: so whenever I couldn't afford the other console, like oh
Speaker 3: I got the PlayStation, now I might. You know, there
Speaker 3: was a time where it's like I understand to an
Speaker 3: extent console fanboyism, to the extent of like, ooh, I
Speaker 3: want my horse to win because this is the one
Speaker 3: I invested my money into. I was never the like,
Speaker 3: yeah that said, I was never the one riding into
Speaker 3: magazines and being like fuck, you know, like it wasn't that,
Speaker 3: but I just wanted, you know, you picked your horse basically.
Speaker 3: And so when Halo came out and everyone was talking
Speaker 3: about it and I was working at funk Land, I
Speaker 3: was like, fuck Halo. I was so anti Halo for
Speaker 3: so long. Whenever my friends in high school we talking about, like,
Speaker 3: Halo fucking sucks. And then I'd play at funkal Land,
Speaker 3: like we'd have a down day or whatever. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: me and my buddy Quot would over and play split
Speaker 3: screen on the CRT, and I would like begrudgingly be
Speaker 3: having fun. I'd be like, god, damn it, this is fun.
Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate that this is fun. Now
Speaker 2: I want this time. I want to buy this.
Speaker 4: Goddamn it, it's fun.
Speaker 2: It turns out it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: Still really well fun. Do you know what order you're
Speaker 2: playing them in with Kayla?
Speaker 1: I mean one like this one rather I guess more specific. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're doing Campaign Evolved.
Speaker 3: If we moved on, which we would have to figure
Speaker 3: something out because she's got an Xbox, but I doubt
Speaker 3: she's turned it on in two years. Yeah, I just
Speaker 3: in order two three uh two three Reach, I wonder.
Speaker 3: I mean, we did like Judgment and stuff. We did
Speaker 3: the lesser Gears is when we were doing that. So
Speaker 3: if we're having a lot of fun with it, and
Speaker 3: I could see us moving on, but we're just planning
Speaker 3: on doing this for now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know if there's like a quote unquote
Speaker 1: machete cut of Halo games equal like Star Wars.
Speaker 3: We'll see too, though, because she doesn't like spacey games.
Speaker 3: So that's why it's like she loves dragon Age but
Speaker 3: doesn't like Mass Effect. You know, she likes, you know, fantasy.
Speaker 3: She doesn't like any kind of like set and space stuff.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Gears was like, I guess Gears isn't space because it's
Speaker 3: like Guns and it's not like in the Stars.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't really understand how she decides what spacing and
Speaker 3: what's not because Gears wasn't on Earth. That was like
Speaker 3: a solar system way far away.
Speaker 1: It was Sora or something, right, Sarah, it was like
Speaker 1: a stand in for Earth.
Speaker 2: Looking, wasn't this be real?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it the twists of Gears War two that the
Speaker 1: locusts were escaping something underground, not attacking humans.
Speaker 3: No, the Statue of Liberty is buried in the sand
Speaker 3: and then Mark Marcus drops to his knees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you killed.
Speaker 1: Speaking of other shooters with a campaign, as I understand
Speaker 1: it is that Splatoon Raiders basically it's single player adventure.
Speaker 2: Now, man, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know because I didn't really follow any
Speaker 3: of the pre release stuff, and so I was like,
Speaker 3: I didn't know if this was like a Destiny like thing.
Speaker 3: I think I thought it was a rogue light. It's
Speaker 3: kind of none of that. It's pretty straightforward. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is like you can play co op. I did
Speaker 3: a little with Manani for the quick look on Giant
Speaker 3: Bomb you can check out on YouTube. But yeah, solo,
Speaker 3: it's just like you got like a home base. You
Speaker 3: kind of build that out you can tinker with, you know,
Speaker 3: you get your different relics and things like that, like
Speaker 3: passive benefits and stuff. You can tinker with your different
Speaker 3: splat guns and things that you've seen in the standard
Speaker 3: just split do in games, so you know, the brushes,
Speaker 3: the more kind of shotgun types, the dual wheel type things.
Speaker 3: You can do a lot of customization with that stuff
Speaker 3: back at your home base and then you look at
Speaker 3: a map and you move on to like a treasure
Speaker 3: chest on the map and it drops you into an
Speaker 3: area where you might have to go through two or
Speaker 3: three levels of just enemies that spawn in and sometimes
Speaker 3: there's a mini box you have to beat in a
Speaker 3: certain amount of time.
Speaker 2: It's very straightforward.
Speaker 3: I mean there's different like packs and stuffing put on
Speaker 3: works like this one is more of a defensive minded,
Speaker 3: turret based build. This one is more of a like
Speaker 3: getting in close, like it's not a shotgun, but the
Speaker 3: splat equivalent of a shot, like that type of damage.
Speaker 3: It's it's still uses the same mobility stuff of like
Speaker 3: you're you're swimming through the ink as a squid, and
Speaker 3: there's some stuff going from island to island where you're
Speaker 3: kind of like surfing and some light platforming. I would say,
Speaker 3: but it's yeah, it's just kind of a single player
Speaker 3: that can be played co op. It doesn't change the
Speaker 3: game when you play co op, but just going from
Speaker 3: combat like skirmish to skirmish, it's fun.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 3: I played a few hours of it and really have
Speaker 3: not felt the drive to go back. And it's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, if I was really into it, I would
Speaker 3: have taken my switch on the trip and I didn't.
Speaker 3: I took the Steam deck. It's just it's something I
Speaker 3: have to like action third person shooter action co op.
Speaker 3: You can co op, yes, okay, co op. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: co op is just like, okay, now you're just playing
Speaker 3: with someone else, which is fun. It's fun to play
Speaker 3: games with your friends. But it's not like it's a, oh,
Speaker 3: you have to play this co op type thing. It's
Speaker 3: a yeah, I'm not going to. It's not as deep
Speaker 3: as something like a Destiny or anything like that. It's
Speaker 3: way more simple. You are leveling up, you are powering
Speaker 3: up your guns, and you're getting like, oh, I found
Speaker 3: a level seven this type of gun. I got this
Speaker 3: new relic that'll give me, you know, ten percent ink
Speaker 3: regeneration or damage reduction.
Speaker 2: It's it's a weird one.
Speaker 3: I'm enjoyed when I'm playing it, but it's something that
Speaker 3: I have to keep remembering that like, oh, right, I
Speaker 3: should go back to that.
Speaker 1: Oh I saw like, yeah clips of it. It looked fun,
Speaker 1: especially as someone who at a distance, I was kind
Speaker 1: of into this Platoon universe or like rather art direction
Speaker 1: in the vibes of it all. But I never played
Speaker 1: any of them because I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily like purely competitive shooters anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, aside from.
Speaker 1: Like Battlefield, but that's not like in Call of Duty,
Speaker 1: but those are fairly I just didn't want to go
Speaker 1: out of my way to play a platoon, so I
Speaker 1: was kind of interested in it. But it sounds straightforward
Speaker 1: to the point of almost feeling bare bones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 3: It is nice to like the ease of being able
Speaker 3: to like, oh, if I just want to pick it
Speaker 3: up and play like two levels or whatever, I'm in
Speaker 3: and out in like, you know, fifteen twenty minutes. It's
Speaker 3: kind of it's very bite sized, you know, these combat encounters.
Speaker 2: It's just the depth. If you're looking for something with
Speaker 2: a little more depth, I don't think this is it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mary, you what? Okay?
Speaker 2: Did you both? No?
Speaker 1: Never mind, we actually held this episode because the big
Speaker 1: Walk embargo.
Speaker 2: It's just just a few hours, so yeah, might be
Speaker 2: hearing this.
Speaker 1: Mary, did you also play this?
Speaker 4: I played this early as a demo, but I did
Speaker 4: play the final version of the game. They just probably
Speaker 4: added more to it since you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like you're playing I wonder if my Okay, I think
Speaker 4: we played the same thing, but you can keep going
Speaker 4: and I they made me stop. So I'm very curious
Speaker 4: what your experience was with you played it with I
Speaker 4: played it with three other people.
Speaker 3: I've played with four others. Yeah, we recorded the video
Speaker 3: today couple hours and it's an it's great, Mary, I
Speaker 3: assume you probably did. Like when you start, it's almost
Speaker 3: like a great plateau from Breath the Wild, where it's
Speaker 3: like you kind of need to do these four things
Speaker 3: to kind of move on into the bigger open world.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're just these like little duck dudes like Mike.
Speaker 3: I was about to make a Simpsons reference, but Marry,
Speaker 3: you know, is the thing when Homer was big Dance.
Speaker 2: Okay, they look like an.
Speaker 3: Ant sive with like a big weird round beaks and stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's a prox chat game. The prox chat is
Speaker 3: way more important than other like friends, like I actually
Speaker 3: even don't like calling this game a friends lib game
Speaker 3: because it just seems like there's more going on here.
Speaker 3: It's less gimmick, more real game. But it does have
Speaker 3: some of those hallmarks of like you're these goofy looking characters.
Speaker 3: You know, your a little horn, your little beecorns move
Speaker 3: when you talk. There definitely is a lot of humor here,
Speaker 3: but like it is a puzzle game. It is a
Speaker 3: co op puzzle game for sure. Like it's cool, like
Speaker 3: you'll just there's no real direction, You're just on this
Speaker 3: island and you'll find like these things where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: clearly I need to put this like almost like egg
Speaker 3: shaped thing into this to move forward or to accomplish something.
Speaker 3: So okay, I see one, but it's locked up in
Speaker 3: this box here in this kind of like building thing
Speaker 3: out in the middle of a field, and there's a
Speaker 3: room I can go into, and if I press this
Speaker 3: button it steals me off, and it's soundproof, and so
Speaker 3: it's like I'm going to soundproof room with a window
Speaker 3: and all my friends are on the outside, and there's
Speaker 3: switches out there, and I can only I can see
Speaker 3: these lights light up that indicate what order you need
Speaker 3: to press them in, and since I can't talk, the
Speaker 3: prox chat is basically cut off. All I can do
Speaker 3: is like you can raise either arm up or down,
Speaker 3: or you can point with either hand. So it's like
Speaker 3: I started, you know, like kind of coming up with
Speaker 3: the language of like okay, but to one of the
Speaker 3: lower switches, I'm gonna sit on the ground and point.
Speaker 3: If it's one of the higher ones, I'm gonna raise
Speaker 3: one arm and point with the other. And then if
Speaker 3: it's like two at the same time, I can like
Speaker 3: you know, point point and just seeing the guys out
Speaker 3: there have to talk it out, be like okay, I.
Speaker 2: Think he's saying this one and this one's lower.
Speaker 3: Like just really really clever stuff that is utilizing like
Speaker 3: the prox chat and the co op nature of this game. Like,
Speaker 3: I do not think you can play this game single player.
Speaker 3: There's no way, right, I've heard that all the puzzles
Speaker 3: kind of max out at like four players, so maybe
Speaker 3: it's the thing. I don't quote me, but it wouldn't
Speaker 3: surprise me if like or two, three or four. They
Speaker 3: will kind of modify the puzzles so you can finish
Speaker 3: them with X number of people, and then above that
Speaker 3: you can play with up to eight, but the puzzles
Speaker 3: don't continue getting more complicated after that.
Speaker 4: Is exactly right. The way they were like visioning it
Speaker 4: was like this is a wholesome game. There's not anything
Speaker 4: you could have your friends, or your children, or your
Speaker 4: nieces and nephews, in it, so you could have like
Speaker 4: little kids join you and they can just probably like
Speaker 4: dink donk around in the background while you actually solve
Speaker 4: the puzzles. But they still get to play in the
Speaker 4: world with you. How fun is that. So it's like
Speaker 4: you can have eight people. I think you're right that
Speaker 4: it's it might even be six, but it's like it
Speaker 4: it maxes out where like there's no more people needed
Speaker 4: to fill a puzzle. They won't alter the puzzle after
Speaker 4: that amount.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's fun too because you'll find yourself in
Speaker 3: these circumstances where it's like at one point, our whole
Speaker 3: group got to this thing and it was clear that
Speaker 3: like one or two people need to stay while the
Speaker 3: other two went up to this like tall area and
Speaker 3: pointed a laser, and so it turned out that me
Speaker 3: and Backlar had to stay behind. So like me and
Speaker 3: Backlar are just kind of like hanging out by this
Speaker 3: switch basically, and we just had to wait for them
Speaker 3: to run out there, and we can't hear their voice chat.
Speaker 3: So it's me and Backlarre just killing time down here,
Speaker 3: and we like found like a flashlight and we're just
Speaker 3: kind of like playing catch with it. Back and forth
Speaker 3: for a while. Like there's a lot of really emergent,
Speaker 3: fun kind of social stuff going on with this game,
Speaker 3: and you can't get lost like dumb shit where it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, we did this puzzle and we found
Speaker 3: a walkie talkie And this is critical now because like
Speaker 3: we can communicate from across the map because you know,
Speaker 3: if you don't have that, you're just shooting flares or
Speaker 3: trying to yell across the canyon. But the walkie talkie's great.
Speaker 3: But let's say you jump off a thing and you
Speaker 3: fall on your ass and slide down a hill and
Speaker 3: oh shit, my walkie talkie got jostled loose and it's
Speaker 3: nighttime and I don't have a light. It's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Like I found myself having to like go
Speaker 3: through the woods, like where the fuck is my walkie talkie?
Speaker 3: Like a lot of really cool emergent stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 4: It's really worth it. I think it's one of these
Speaker 4: games that people will talk about, especially just because it's
Speaker 4: so universal. It'll work for a variety of different reasons.
Speaker 4: You can have fun with it, but it's truly for everyone.
Speaker 4: Can probably even like parents. You could like throw them
Speaker 4: in there and they could probably like figure it out.
Speaker 4: But this is like a good puzzler for gamers who
Speaker 4: want to just spend time with each other in a world.
Speaker 4: I think it's wholesome and lovely and I really adored
Speaker 4: this this I think I think the demo was like
Speaker 4: an hour and a half and I ate it up.
Speaker 4: I was like, I want more. I was really stoked
Speaker 4: for figuring out. Like you were saying, there was all
Speaker 4: these different things, there was this thing we couldn't reach,
Speaker 4: and so it eventually kind of teaches you can climb
Speaker 4: on each other's shoulders. You know you can. We were
Speaker 4: trying to find keys to get into the world. But
Speaker 4: a lot of this is all there's no dialogue. There's
Speaker 4: no text in this entire game pretty much, so everything
Speaker 4: you're just talking it through with each other and seeing
Speaker 4: if your tests work out. Plus there's little toys in
Speaker 4: the room, like the lights. You see the lights, you're
Speaker 4: turning on the lights because there's day and night cycles
Speaker 4: and you really can get lost. One of my favorite
Speaker 4: stories is we had the exact same thing where two
Speaker 4: of us had to leave, but for whatever reason, we
Speaker 4: only chose one person to leave, so there was three
Speaker 4: of us and one person left and we could see
Speaker 4: them out there and they could see us, and then
Speaker 4: they walked all the way back and said you need
Speaker 4: to turn the laser on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it wasted.
Speaker 4: Twenty minutes because we didn't know what the other person wanted. Like,
Speaker 4: it's just very cute, lovely storytelling without without saying anything.
Speaker 4: I think it's a gem. I think we should play it.
Speaker 4: I think it's very fun.
Speaker 3: I would love to. Yeah, yeah, and I do think
Speaker 3: it is yeah, reductive. A lot of people will say
Speaker 3: friend slop. This is something different. This is somewhere in
Speaker 3: between like friend art.
Speaker 4: This is like actually thoughtful and like well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it feels more like a co op
Speaker 3: like the Witness. I don't know if it is the
Speaker 3: right example. Well you know what I mean, like solving
Speaker 3: puzzles as a group and just using your communication as
Speaker 3: your tools.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: They look like three dimensional mister Gaman watches.
Speaker 2: I could see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there are silly little things the way they look,
Speaker 4: and you can change the color of them, which was
Speaker 4: like another thing that we ran into, like you could
Speaker 4: like paint yourself and stuff like that. Lots of creativity
Speaker 4: in this little space to play around with.
Speaker 1: Mary what is lost in found Co?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I have some little ones. This won't take long.
Speaker 4: But Loston found Co is Where's Waldo? But it's more
Speaker 4: interactive because some of the times I'm just gonna say
Speaker 4: Waldo because that's what I've used. But like, Waldo is
Speaker 4: a donut and he's hidden in a box of donuts,
Speaker 4: and so you need to click on the box of
Speaker 4: donuts in order to find it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: And so like the entire scene, which is like quite
Speaker 4: I mean not massive, but the size of a Where's
Speaker 4: Waldo picture, there's animations happening throughout all of it. Maybe
Speaker 4: someone is like mad that somebody's backing into them through
Speaker 4: a car, and maybe someone's like working at the register
Speaker 4: but they're trying. They're like falling asleep, and maybe there's
Speaker 4: a dishwasher, and maybe there's like two people on a
Speaker 4: date and one's really stressed out. You're seeing all these
Speaker 4: different environments happening, and like little animations. You're looking for
Speaker 4: these secrets in each space. Usually they'll give you like
Speaker 4: six and you can find most of them, but some
Speaker 4: of them they'll be like you need to discover this one,
Speaker 4: and that means clicking on everything and being like, what's
Speaker 4: this do? I like it because Where's Waldo is just
Speaker 4: like such a simple experience of finding him, But in
Speaker 4: this one, you're clicking around and discovering a lot of
Speaker 4: the different things you can do in this space, and
Speaker 4: sometimes it results in like a cheeky, cute little animation.
Speaker 4: Way too much story and dialogue for a game about
Speaker 4: finding shit. Did not love that. But my favorite part
Speaker 4: was that you can auto play dialogue, so there's a
Speaker 4: button to just let it auto run through, and there's
Speaker 4: also a button to be like, I don't want all that,
Speaker 4: let me just find stuff. And I did that a lot.
Speaker 4: I don't know why this game has so much story
Speaker 4: for finding stuff in the world, and I couldn't tell
Speaker 4: you anything about it because I skipped all of it.
Speaker 4: But I did like clicking through. This is just a
Speaker 4: this is a wholesome puzzler, This is a this is
Speaker 4: the zen. I'm watching a movie and I would like
Speaker 4: to I would like to click on a game as well.
Speaker 1: Game nice, yea, I don't need a contextual rapping for that, Like,
Speaker 1: That's why I appreciate something like is the seat taken
Speaker 1: even totally. Yes, like I just Tarotech Legion.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, we're just like I don't know what
Speaker 3: what the old aliens do is to shoot him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, more less talky age, old adage.
Speaker 4: This is a uh, this is a most Talkie of
Speaker 4: the Year contender. It just keeps it keeps, and They're like,
Speaker 4: we've got to figure this out, and I'm like, no
Speaker 4: one needs this. I don't want any of this stuff.
Speaker 4: I think actually some people do like this. I think
Speaker 4: some people do really like story and dialogue. It's just
Speaker 4: not my jam and I didn't want it for this game,
Speaker 4: but I I liked the actual gameplay when I got
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 1: What about Scarlett Deer in oh okay one where I
Speaker 1: was curious about this art style, Like, yep, hand sown
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: This one is for all the people who've been complaining
Speaker 4: about AI. You better buy this game. It's completely handmade.
Speaker 4: Each animated frame is Yeah, it's it's incredible. It's sown.
Speaker 4: You can't ask for a more handmade game than this.
Speaker 4: It's this is the type of game that you'll watch
Speaker 4: the trailer and you'll say, oh, this looks nice. Oh
Speaker 4: this is fun. Oh okay, there's some story going on here.
Speaker 4: And then you'll get to the last thirty seconds of
Speaker 4: the trailer and you'll say, what the fuck did you
Speaker 4: sew every frame of every character? Yes, they did, every
Speaker 4: character is was was hand sewn. It's really it's really gorgeous.
Speaker 4: It's a gorgeous game, and the animations games are really good.
Speaker 1: How Okay, this shows my lack of knowledge about game design.
Speaker 1: How did they get because like they're literally.
Speaker 4: How did it get in the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming they're using like a high speed camera
Speaker 1: or something pointed at these.
Speaker 2: Or is it all hand painted background? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even understand how they did that.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think they embroidered all of the characters,
Speaker 4: and then they probably use the images of the embroidery
Speaker 4: to make the Yeah, that's my assumption is that they
Speaker 4: digitize the embroidery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes the most sense. But that's crazy. They
Speaker 1: actually took the time to hand sew it.
Speaker 4: But you can see the line work in the shots.
Speaker 4: So when you look at the trailer, even when they're
Speaker 4: standing still, right, there's three different three to five versions
Speaker 4: of the embroidery, and you can see the thread moving
Speaker 4: in the characters as their idols. So it's it's really
Speaker 4: fucking cool. This is a testament to handmade games that
Speaker 4: obviously have taken just so much heart and so much
Speaker 4: This is a labor of love and I respect this
Speaker 4: so much. The it's also a husband and wife team.
Speaker 4: I think they like did a lot of this themselves,
Speaker 4: from the design to the music to the coding. So
Speaker 4: it's it's really cool to the game itself. You're God.
Speaker 4: I don't know where you are, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: Old Castle Times, as Dan likes to call. Yeah, you're
Speaker 4: in some kind of Castle Times and you have kids,
Speaker 4: and through some circumstances, you stumble across some nefarious shit
Speaker 4: going on in the town, and then your kids are
Speaker 4: gone and everyone's like the noon Witch Gottom and so
Speaker 4: you are going into the tunnels, the caravans like under
Speaker 4: the town to find your kids. It's darker than I thought,
Speaker 4: I think because of the way this was designed. I
Speaker 4: thought it was going to be wholesome, but it's actually
Speaker 4: quite violent. It didn't have too it doesn't have like
Speaker 4: a lot of gore, but like I died several times,
Speaker 4: other people died several times, I meet a lot of
Speaker 4: children's ghosts, which means they died. There's death in this.
Speaker 4: Nothing brutal, but yeah, I mean it's there's a lot
Speaker 4: of death and subjects about death in this and murder
Speaker 4: and stuff like this. I was surprised and a little disappointed.
Speaker 4: My honest reflection is that it's it's a bit more
Speaker 4: of a platformer than I thought it would be. And
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a great platformer. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's where this game shines. I think this game is cheeky,
Speaker 4: and it has really good dialogue. I think it's got
Speaker 4: a good story, and it's very intriguing, and I don't
Speaker 4: know what happens. There are times where it's a bit
Speaker 4: of a I need you to get three pieces of
Speaker 4: my body back so that I can give you this key,
Speaker 4: and so you're now you're doing fetch quests and you're
Speaker 4: finding these pieces. I don't mind that either. The parts
Speaker 4: where it was a bit challenging for me, when it
Speaker 4: was just like you're in the caves, it's really dark,
Speaker 4: and you got to jump through all of these spikes,
Speaker 4: and if you fall, you're dead and you have to
Speaker 4: do it all over again. That is not super fun,
Speaker 4: and I think you can kind of you can see
Speaker 4: that this is a mom and pop shop game a
Speaker 4: little bit for me in these moments because it's a
Speaker 4: bit rough on the edges. When you die, there's no
Speaker 4: death animation, you just you just died. It fades to
Speaker 4: black and you wake back up. But nevertheless, there was
Speaker 4: a time in the first hour where I was like,
Speaker 4: this game isn't for me because it's too platform me.
Speaker 4: But it got into some good stuff in about three
Speaker 4: hours in that I think was really worth it. And
Speaker 4: so I recommend people who give this a shot, like
Speaker 4: give it seven hours and let the story like marinate
Speaker 4: before you make your final decision.
Speaker 3: And I'm curious because I just looked up the game
Speaker 3: on YouTube and I saw a long play was two
Speaker 3: and a half hours long, and I was like, oh cool,
Speaker 3: nice short little thing. And you're like, it takes about
Speaker 3: three hours to get good quit.
Speaker 1: A minute, scarlet, but probably yeah, they're.
Speaker 4: Probably zooming through it. I don't think it's a long experience.
Speaker 4: I think when you hand so a game, it's not
Speaker 4: going to be a long experience. I think what I
Speaker 4: was just saying is like the very first hour, I
Speaker 4: was like a little nervous that it was going to
Speaker 4: be a full platformer, and it's not a full platformer.
Speaker 1: I assumed based on what I'd seen, it was going
Speaker 1: to be sort of like Pentiment.
Speaker 2: If you guys, it looks like yeah.
Speaker 4: That's what everybody else said to me. They were like,
Speaker 4: this looks like Pentiment. You have the exact reaction that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone loves that's true. It just doesn't have the dialogue options.
Speaker 4: There's no dialogue options in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that requires like a whole team of writers. So
Speaker 1: I get why, Like they're not going for that totally
Speaker 1: of like three era storytelling.
Speaker 4: This is a spooky tale of children disappearing and you
Speaker 4: have to jump to find them.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it's more of a showcase for the art,
Speaker 1: which is fine.
Speaker 2: That's how I would.
Speaker 1: Look at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks it looks It looks incredible. You can
Speaker 4: see the love that they put into it. It really
Speaker 4: is beautiful. And the audio is good too, Like the
Speaker 4: music when they have it, I think is quite well done.
Speaker 4: So when it's good, it's good.
Speaker 1: I want to show that to Amanda. I feel like
Speaker 1: with her stitching and sewing, she'd be super into that.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also curious about fresh tracks because, on
Speaker 1: the one hand, it kind of looks like first person
Speaker 1: guitar hero skiing with swords. Yeah, but I know it's
Speaker 1: also called I know a lot of cool stuff I
Speaker 1: just said, but I know it's also called a rhythm game,
Speaker 1: and I don't like rhythm games. Is it like a
Speaker 1: rhythm game?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I also left out like it looks like beat
Speaker 1: Saber on skis. It's probably the easier way to say it.
Speaker 4: I think that's the right way to describe it. It
Speaker 4: is a It is a rhythm game. You need to
Speaker 4: listen to the music to do the tasks at the
Speaker 4: right time. It's a simplified version though, right, Like I
Speaker 4: think this is a simple game that they know what
Speaker 4: to do, and they're doing this one thing well, which
Speaker 4: is like you're going to go up, down, left, right,
Speaker 4: you lean left and right, you jump in your skis
Speaker 4: and you duck in your skis, and you have a
Speaker 4: sword which you swing left, right, up, down, center, whatever,
Speaker 4: and then you just collect balls. If you've seen the trailer,
Speaker 4: you'll see what I'm talking about. But like you, I
Speaker 4: don't know what they are. But the thing you want
Speaker 4: to collect her these blue balls, and so I'm just
Speaker 4: getting all these blue balls and I'm avoiding all the obstacles.
Speaker 4: It gets pretty fucking hard. I did a couple levels
Speaker 4: on hard and I died almost instantly. You do need
Speaker 4: to actually have some skills, but the first few levels
Speaker 4: were like easy and polite and very nice, and it
Speaker 4: was kind of zen. I was kind of zoning out
Speaker 4: playing this game.
Speaker 2: This is the rhythm of the slopes.
Speaker 1: That song has been stuck in my head. We rewatched
Speaker 1: that episode of Windows Bay.
Speaker 2: Oh, we just watched the finale last night.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, would you think it's great?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Real? Yeah, it was like obviously sets up a
Speaker 2: season two, and I think.
Speaker 4: That is definitely a show you season two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a show you could just do a lot of,
Speaker 3: like because even that first season was just like I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna spoil anything, but it's like, here's just a
Speaker 3: bunch of different spooky stuff that happens here, and like
Speaker 3: you can just kind of buy any of it because
Speaker 3: of the history of the island.
Speaker 2: And yeah, very fun.
Speaker 1: There's some genuinely creepy stuff too, like, yeah, especially in
Speaker 1: the later episodes when you start to see more about
Speaker 1: how things work, like eh, it.
Speaker 3: It rides the line between horror and comedy like nothing
Speaker 3: I think I've seen. I'm laughing out loud in like
Speaker 3: every episode.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly impressive. I love that show. I would be up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not big. We could talk more about
Speaker 1: the show, like for a separate video at some point
Speaker 1: or something like that. I know the show is not
Speaker 1: like as hot as it was three weeks ago, but
Speaker 1: I still like talking about that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what else I like to talking about?
Speaker 2: What is? Emails? No, all right? As usual?
Speaker 1: You can write into Firescape Past at gmail dot com
Speaker 1: for questions you want read on the show. Our coffers
Speaker 1: are thin and out. We got a bunch of good
Speaker 1: ones tonight, but send those in get us prep for
Speaker 1: the next few episodes. You know, doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: about video games. Some of the most fun ones are not.
Speaker 1: That's Firescape Past at gmail dot com. There's one right
Speaker 1: up top from Eddie. I want to read Dan. I
Speaker 1: curious if knew this. It says Dan and Mike speaking
Speaker 1: of the Odyssey. Fun fact that you guys might appreciate.
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan is a huge fan of mcgroober.
Speaker 3: Yes I didn't know, Yeah, yeah, he's talking about it
Speaker 3: for many years. He absolutely loves mcgroober. Somebody sent me
Speaker 3: a clip I think it was from the View or
Speaker 3: something like he was doing the press tour for the
Speaker 3: Odyssey and like he's sitting next to Matt Damon and
Speaker 3: like Anne Hathaways at the desk and he's like asking
Speaker 3: Anne Hathaways have you seen mcgroober? Like so, Nolan is
Speaker 3: one of those people who's like always trying to get
Speaker 3: people to watch mcgroober. Which, now I like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Mary. Do you want to read this one that we'll
Speaker 1: definitely have some discussion about from Blake.
Speaker 4: Yes, Blake from Boston subgamers with a Z thank you.
Speaker 4: Can you name your mount rushmore of multiplayer maps? I'll
Speaker 4: go first, Faculty from GoldenEye Facility. Ope, sorry, I did
Speaker 4: it again. I think I know a little bit about
Speaker 4: Rivian Facility from Derby and Dick.
Speaker 1: I just I love that map. I put some respect
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 4: Facility from Dublow seven, Wake Island from Battlefield nineteen forty two,
Speaker 4: Blood Gulch from Halo, and Island Estate from Rainbow six
Speaker 4: three Raven Shield. Very specific. Okay, now you go, Blake
Speaker 4: from Boston. Thank you, Blake. Sorry about faculty.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we were talking. We were just kind of
Speaker 1: setting up the premise because we each wrote down our
Speaker 1: own I'm curious we have any overlap, but we are
Speaker 1: flexing what multiplayer map means. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: a shooter, so keep that in mind. I guess who
Speaker 1: wants to go first.
Speaker 3: Dan, I'll have mine here, like I do know, Like
Speaker 3: I love facility, but my favorite facility moments are in
Speaker 3: the single player. I think it's a great single player level.
Speaker 3: It's a really good I mean, it's all fun multiplayer.
Speaker 3: But my favorite multiplayer level in gold Night is Bunker.
Speaker 3: That is my favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah. More, I memorize all the spawn points and through
Speaker 2: proximity minds on all of them, so it'd kill someone
Speaker 2: once and they just die over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: That was fine.
Speaker 3: Number two Paris and Twisted Metal two. That is the
Speaker 3: one where you're running around, like you can go into
Speaker 3: the louver and stuff like that. You can go to
Speaker 3: the Eipple Tower and if you blow up the eifplel Tower,
Speaker 3: it falls over and you can get to this whole
Speaker 3: extra rooftop area and there's like this kind of water
Speaker 3: area where you can kind of ramp up and run
Speaker 3: over mimes and all this. It's just a really fun
Speaker 3: like multi state tow as s Middle map Western Land
Speaker 3: in Mario Party two, that was the one where everyone's
Speaker 3: a cowboy and you're going around an old West village
Speaker 3: and you have hoot and nannies. That's maybe my favorite
Speaker 3: Maria Party map ever. And then I got a real
Speaker 3: weird one for my last one, Ukadia from Warhawk on
Speaker 3: PS three.
Speaker 2: Warhawk was that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what kind of game that was.
Speaker 3: It was you could be you could be on foot,
Speaker 3: you could be in like vehicles like tanks and stuff,
Speaker 3: or you could be in a Warhawk, which was like
Speaker 3: a vitall, like you know, like a Salt Plain harrier
Speaker 3: type thing. And so it was just like Capture the
Speaker 3: Flag type stuff where you're flying around, hopping out of
Speaker 3: these planes, you know, physics and stuffn like running around
Speaker 3: shooting sit down with rocket launchers. Oh shit, there's a
Speaker 3: tank here, I'm gonna get get the flag, jumping a tank.
Speaker 3: It was just very very kinetic and fun, and I
Speaker 3: think Warhawk PS three is criminally underrated.
Speaker 1: All right, cool, deep cut, Mary, I can go next
Speaker 1: to you want to go?
Speaker 4: Next you you go?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: I also had a battlefield map Strike on Karkhan. That
Speaker 1: was the first time playing a multiplayer map or multiplayer
Speaker 1: anything shooter where I actually felt like I was in
Speaker 1: like an urban city streets environment, and I kind of
Speaker 1: so many shooter before that where these sci fi environments
Speaker 1: are very like like dioramic kind of small things. This
Speaker 1: actually felt like a full on city urban assault and
Speaker 1: they've remade it plenty of times, so I guess other
Speaker 1: people like the two. This one's weird headlong from Halo two.
Speaker 1: It is, I have to And there's a reason I
Speaker 1: love this because this was before the era where every
Speaker 1: multiplayer shooter map was that three lane structure with variations
Speaker 1: on it, Like there's a reason those three lane structures work,
Speaker 1: and that that's what the pros play Encounter Strike two
Speaker 1: in Call of Duty in Valeriant, like that's those kind
Speaker 1: of maps where it's like they clearly want these three
Speaker 1: lanes to be where the encounters happen. MOBA's also influenced.
Speaker 3: It is that kind of like a domination in Call
Speaker 3: of Duty has the read things and there's clearly just
Speaker 3: like these paths to get there.
Speaker 1: No, that's more like the choke points they're trying to design,
Speaker 1: like in modern Call of Duty. But there's like actually
Speaker 1: lanes down one side of the map. There's a middle lane,
Speaker 1: then there's a left. Headlong in a Halo two and
Speaker 1: many Halo two maps were very much like they didn't
Speaker 1: care about that. I actually there's a Jacob Geller video
Speaker 1: about this where he talks about being able to go
Speaker 1: back to modern Warfare two maps and kind of explore
Speaker 1: these nook and crannies where nothing ever actually happened. You
Speaker 1: never actually encountered anybody else in these houses. Headlong was
Speaker 1: very much like that, where it's like there were parts
Speaker 1: of the map my friends and I never used during
Speaker 1: System Link four v four's but this there's one building
Speaker 1: that was under construction. There was another one that was
Speaker 1: a parking garage. There was another one that was like
Speaker 1: a walkway kind of panorama thing. It was this city scape,
Speaker 1: but like when you came across people in different buildings,
Speaker 1: it felt very it was surprising, but it felt organic.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like Bungeee really wanted that specific in
Speaker 1: count to happen. So there was like an era of unpredictability.
Speaker 1: Every time we loaded into that map. There's war hogs,
Speaker 1: there's gossward hoogs in it. Like it just felt like
Speaker 1: the emergent possibilities every time we played that map, especially
Speaker 1: in split screen or I'm sorry, system link, were like endless.
Speaker 1: But in terms of a much more authored map, Shelle
Speaker 1: is my favorite Rainbow six siege map. You get four
Speaker 1: separate starting spawned points if you're the attackers outside in
Speaker 1: the snow and the woods basically, and then the defenders
Speaker 1: are in this chlle.
Speaker 2: This cabin in I remember this one, yeah.
Speaker 1: And presumably Quebec. But like, there are so many layers
Speaker 1: to this map. Like if you go in through the
Speaker 1: basement and that's where the defense is, like you can
Speaker 1: like obviously the different operators and their skills play into it.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Thermite can go through the garage wall
Speaker 1: even if they reinforced it and banned it had but
Speaker 1: then banned it can counter him, et cetera. But like
Speaker 1: every floor of the Chalet has a potential is its
Speaker 1: own shooter map almost, but then the way they interact
Speaker 1: and when you have to move from Florida floor, there's
Speaker 1: so many different ways it feels kind of like if
Speaker 1: Siege made a map set in like the Home Alone house.
Speaker 1: When you watch a movie enough you get the layout
Speaker 1: of the house down pat Like I feel like that, Shelle.
Speaker 1: The layout lives in my mind where I sometimes like
Speaker 1: still dream about it. And my last one, my last
Speaker 1: one is South Pacific from Red Alert too.
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: That is a perfect RTS multiplayer map.
Speaker 2: And I don't dan.
Speaker 1: I mean one of the funnest things we did a
Speaker 1: giant bomb and then during COVID was we figured out
Speaker 1: how to play. We got Redler two working for one
Speaker 1: v one. I didn't really play competitive growing up. I
Speaker 1: played Skirmish against the AI, but like, that is a
Speaker 1: perfect multiplayer map. It's if you if you can't google
Speaker 1: it right now. Basically it is just a small, small,
Speaker 1: medium sized map.
Speaker 2: It's an island in the shape of an X.
Speaker 3: It's almost like an H like it is kind of
Speaker 3: like you know it's going to fall up and down
Speaker 3: there and then this very skinny thing in between.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's ocean surrounding it, very thin layer
Speaker 1: of ocean around the map, which allows you to if
Speaker 1: you want to go naval and do the bombardments and
Speaker 1: the the submarines and the dolphins and the aircraft carriers.
Speaker 1: You can go around the edge of the map and
Speaker 1: kind of like control the outside. But what happens is
Speaker 1: you could do four players or you could do two,
Speaker 1: and they could spawn one of these four corners of
Speaker 1: the h and then the middle becomes this crazy choke point.
Speaker 1: But then there are also a ton of resources at
Speaker 1: if you're doing one v one, there are a ton
Speaker 1: of resources at the spawn points you didn't use, so
Speaker 1: those become their own battlegrounds because you're fighting over the ore.
Speaker 1: It's such a simple map, but it's I think it's
Speaker 1: my favorite real time strategy map of all time. Like
Speaker 1: when I go back to play Reddler two every few
Speaker 1: months just for fun, like that's the map I load
Speaker 1: up with with AI nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just looked at the like I didn't
Speaker 3: know by name, but then I saw the image, just like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I picked that one.
Speaker 1: So simple, but I can't. I have a hard time
Speaker 1: not playing that when I load that game up. All right, Mary,
Speaker 1: your turn mount rushmore of multiplayer maps.
Speaker 4: All right, I think this one's weird for me because
Speaker 4: I don't have the experience that you guys have with these,
Speaker 4: but I have classics that are important to me, and
Speaker 4: so that's what I'm going to go with here. One
Speaker 4: Team Fortress Too Upward. This is one of the original
Speaker 4: payload levels from Team Fortress two. This is like essentially
Speaker 4: the original Overwatch where you're getting a payload to the end.
Speaker 4: Upward is the most iconic of all their levels, where
Speaker 4: there's lots of ways that you can hide in different
Speaker 4: tunnels and systems. When I was playing this, this was
Speaker 4: the map that we got really stoked to play when
Speaker 4: I was when I was younger, and like this was
Speaker 4: kind of like one of the original games that got
Speaker 4: me into gaming, so really fond memories. Upward.
Speaker 1: I remember this. It's like the corrugated shacks on the
Speaker 1: cliff and the wooden walkways. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: You could push people off cliffs, which was important and strategic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the map was awesome.
Speaker 4: This is a good one. Whatever. I was like when
Speaker 4: we got this question, I was like, I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to google these because I don't remember these map names.
Speaker 4: This is tough for Mary. A counter Strike Source was
Speaker 4: important to me growing up as well, and my favorite
Speaker 4: map was CS Office. I don't think it is the
Speaker 4: most popular map from CS source, but Office is the
Speaker 4: one that I fundamentally learned counter strike basics and actually
Speaker 4: shooting game basics off of. So I did not understand
Speaker 4: a lot of fundamentals of playing counter Strike until Office.
Speaker 4: I spent a lot of time in these hallways sniping
Speaker 4: people and a dying, and this is where I learned
Speaker 4: how to camp behind doors. So good for her. Nice Third,
Speaker 4: we'll go into the future a little bit. I got obviously,
Speaker 4: like we all did, probably have to put at least
Speaker 4: one gears on here, but I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 4: be Gridlock. I think it's gonna be the Tyro Station.
Speaker 4: The reason I like this one is because it had
Speaker 4: a train that went through everything. Oh yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 4: so you didn't have to kill people, you just had
Speaker 4: to push them into the train.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have very specific memories of what's the using
Speaker 1: the torqubo on that map. Yeah, like getting the torqubow
Speaker 1: perfectly charged. Someone pops up and I have the headshot
Speaker 1: with the laser, and all of a sudden, the train
Speaker 1: blocks my arrow as I shoot it. That's funny.
Speaker 4: Fun I think that the train was Yeah, it could
Speaker 4: be defensive, but it was also just like one of
Speaker 4: the funniest ways to embarrass someone if you could just
Speaker 4: throw them at the right moment. A train kill was
Speaker 4: really beautiful and I have a lot of really good
Speaker 4: memories doing that. And then finally to the more modern present,
Speaker 4: I have a lot of a lot of good memories
Speaker 4: and I really still respect the map King's Row from Overwatch.
Speaker 4: When Overwatch first launched, King's Row was like the main
Speaker 4: one that I think they launched with. And this is
Speaker 4: a really fun payload map and it kind of brought Overwatch.
Speaker 4: I mean, this was such a bomb when Overwatch launched,
Speaker 4: but this was a This is my favorite map of
Speaker 4: that entire game.
Speaker 1: Yes, out side note, I was looking up Halo two
Speaker 1: maps earlier and like some this specifically sticks in my memory.
Speaker 1: Whoever wrote the map descriptions just fucking killed it. They
Speaker 1: were one sentence descriptions and they weren't like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is how this sports like. This relay station is part
Speaker 1: of a network that has kept Delta Halo funk smoothly
Speaker 1: for untold centuries or like water works as While the
Speaker 1: forerunners excelled at mimicking natural beauty, the machinery in this
Speaker 1: cavern exemplifies their true genius. But then a relic was
Speaker 1: this the one? All relic was an awesome map too.
Speaker 1: Covenant scripture dictates that structures of this type are memorials
Speaker 1: to forerunners, like there's like an air of mystery around
Speaker 1: them that I think, sure, define that era of Halo.
Speaker 2: Better grasp on just the vibe they wanted with.
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, yeah, all right, thank you Blake from Boston.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, this is sort of there's a question
Speaker 1: for all of us. But first, he's curious if you
Speaker 1: know what this is about. All right, Hey, fire Escape,
Speaker 1: I was recently diagnosed with Silliac's disease and have a
Speaker 1: few questions. One, does Dan know what that means I
Speaker 1: cannot eat?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess gluten?
Speaker 1: Yes, hey, hey, can you list foods that contain gluten?
Speaker 2: Uh? Bread?
Speaker 3: Uh? Bread, like a lot of Carby like bread, probably noodles,
Speaker 3: like crackers. Yeah, I'm just thinking like Carby grainy type things.
Speaker 1: Sure, yes?
Speaker 2: That beer?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, a lot of beer pretty sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, three out of three.
Speaker 1: And then the last question for all of us, if
Speaker 1: this is if any of you needed to give up
Speaker 1: an entire category ingredient of food, what would you pick.
Speaker 1: Oh that I would just say something I hate if
Speaker 1: Dan tried to say something on your tomatoes. He's also
Speaker 1: giving up anything containing a catch a barbecue sauce, spaghetti sauce.
Speaker 4: Like, imagine that it would give you You are allergic
Speaker 4: to it so severely that you would get like really
Speaker 4: hurt if you had anything with the ingredient in it.
Speaker 2: I could do vegetables.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is easy, Like I feel like because
Speaker 1: we could just name things we don't like and then'll
Speaker 1: we give it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't. I never really have I give you.
Speaker 1: Would you rather give up? No? Now I'm now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking the sentence out loud, and it's really like I
Speaker 1: would give up.
Speaker 2: Dead rats.
Speaker 4: What No, it has to be something with my food
Speaker 4: on the food pyramid, on the food pyramid, and it
Speaker 4: like yes.
Speaker 2: No he didn't say that though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's too easy because.
Speaker 1: That's what that was my we're agreeing.
Speaker 4: Are too picky? You guys are? This game wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 1: I am not picky whatsoever. I eat literally anything.
Speaker 2: I have let us some stuff and it's like never
Speaker 2: brings me joy. No, No, it's right. I think it's fine.
Speaker 4: If you had to be allergic to meat or cheese.
Speaker 4: Which one would you pick? That's the question. I know
Speaker 4: I got them.
Speaker 2: I I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm okay on lettuce the meat. She's the thing is
Speaker 3: I'm happier when I'm eating cheese. But I feel like
Speaker 3: that's just fucked up of like if I can't have meat,
Speaker 3: but I can have all the cheese.
Speaker 2: I went, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 4: You know, like you so much pasta, you could have
Speaker 4: so much grilled cheese you could have.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I like meat without cheese, not so like cheese that meat,
Speaker 3: but like cheese without meat isn't like a meal typically.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna go even harder because ciliac is like,
Speaker 4: not oh you can't have bread, it's you can't have gluten,
Speaker 4: which is like a whole genre of stuff. I'm is
Speaker 4: it meat or dairy? You'd have to give up one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: I don't think I have a lot of dairy.
Speaker 1: What I think that we're just saying cheese and meat
Speaker 1: would be difficult.
Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot cheese was dairy.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was just reminding you cheese, okay, I thought
Speaker 3: it was milk, and I perhaps like I don't have
Speaker 3: that much milk. Oh yeah, I forgot cheese in that umbrella.
Speaker 3: Look my my My family was only farmers and grocery
Speaker 3: store employees.
Speaker 2: Why would I know this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess dairy's good, but it's just cheese. Cheese
Speaker 3: is the only dairy thing I'm I'm partial to that.
Speaker 1: You're that you yourself reading.
Speaker 3: I don't care about milk. I don't need a lot
Speaker 3: of eggs like I don't. I don't like yogurt and
Speaker 3: a lot of yogurt. Yeah, I'll get rid of dairy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So no cheese, do it for me, Mary, make
Speaker 1: one for me?
Speaker 4: Okay? Alcohol, all of it? Yeah, beer, wine, everything, okay?
Speaker 4: Or meat?
Speaker 1: I would give up well, like health for health reasons.
Speaker 1: I would give up if that concludes wine.
Speaker 4: I didn't ask for.
Speaker 2: Can we have the impossible and beyond burgers? Yes? Then okay?
Speaker 3: Then then then I'm giving up me because it's all
Speaker 3: undiscernible to me.
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, wow? The have you ever had day cheese?
Speaker 4: You can?
Speaker 3: I know there's some stuff you can do, but like
Speaker 3: the meat stuff is really come a long way.
Speaker 2: I'll give up meat and just seat the vegan meat stuff. Wow.
Speaker 4: Easy, he's boy over here easy.
Speaker 1: I want to say I would give up alcohol, but
Speaker 1: I do not want to go the rest of my
Speaker 1: life without. Like it's specifically wine. You could have said,
Speaker 1: because that's mainly the only thing I drink.
Speaker 4: I chose meaner so all about no, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying I don't. I don't really drink beer or sometimes
Speaker 1: I have liquor, but it's mainly wine. I had the
Speaker 1: conversation with a mana the other day. I was like,
Speaker 1: she asked me, if I if I had to choose
Speaker 1: between coffee and wine, what I would pick. I still
Speaker 1: I still would go wine, but like I also would
Speaker 1: be very very very sad if I never drank coffee again,
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't get I don't get caffeine
Speaker 1: withdrawal headaches. Like I don't think i'm a I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm addicted to coffee. I'm sure like on some
Speaker 1: level I am, like I do need it to kind
Speaker 1: of kickstart a day, but like I just on days
Speaker 1: I don't have coffee. I'm just I'm really not myself.
Speaker 1: I'm just sad kind of.
Speaker 2: I love coffee. Mountain dude doesn't drink I don't want that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this these guys. Did I tell you? I took
Speaker 4: them all to breakfast, the giant bott guys. And there's
Speaker 4: five of you, you four of you, there's four of them,
Speaker 4: one of me. And they go, uh, we all order breakfast,
Speaker 4: and I say, I'll have a coffee, and they go
Speaker 4: and five diet cokes. And I said, guys, know I'm
Speaker 4: getting a coffee and not. He's like, I know. It's
Speaker 4: because he drinks two diet cokes with breakfast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I got to, Mike got to and then
Speaker 3: we know, I think we added a sixth because we're like, well,
Speaker 3: chuck and grub, you know they gotta get one wait wait, wait.
Speaker 4: Diet cokes and a coffee for our breakfast.
Speaker 1: On a regular basis, you guys drink two die cokes
Speaker 1: with breakfast.
Speaker 3: I definitely most days of my life had a couple
Speaker 3: of sodas.
Speaker 2: Uh when I wake up.
Speaker 3: I used to have a mini fridge next to my bed,
Speaker 3: just so like before I get out of bed, I
Speaker 3: can grab my first mountain dew. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 3: have my first coffee till I was like my thirties,
Speaker 3: you know, so like nowadays, I do have coffee more
Speaker 3: often than I have soda, but I got rules. If
Speaker 3: it's like after like ten am or if I'm kind
Speaker 3: of hungover, I want the soda first thing.
Speaker 1: You don't drink any coffee after ten am.
Speaker 3: I mean I do on occasion, but it's like, to me,
Speaker 3: coffee is a like early morning thing, like I'm getting
Speaker 3: up early and having a baglin coffee before a run
Speaker 3: or something like that, like seven am.
Speaker 1: You know, gotcha for my lunch break. During the day,
Speaker 1: I enjoy like grinding beans, getting into the measurement stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just like a fun ritual. But like I do
Speaker 1: the I don't know if it's actually true, but I
Speaker 1: have feel like I have maintained good sleep patterns with
Speaker 1: the seven hour rule, like just don't have caffeine seven
Speaker 1: hours or after before you go to bed, within seven
Speaker 1: hours of going to bed. So like most days after
Speaker 1: two pm or three pm, I really try not to
Speaker 1: have coffee.
Speaker 3: Man, when I was at Giant, it was like I
Speaker 3: think I was at like a dozen. So it does
Speaker 3: today with caffeine, yeah, like late.
Speaker 2: Into the night.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because if I have a we're free at
Speaker 3: the New York office.
Speaker 2: That's your dad.
Speaker 4: That's your dad coming out of your fucking face, that
Speaker 4: is your buffet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean to be presumptuous because but maybe
Speaker 1: one of you guys know this, But I generally, if
Speaker 1: I have like coffee at four pm, I definitely noticed
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble sleeping how that night. However, I've also
Speaker 1: there's been occasions where, like in certain cultures, like Italian food,
Speaker 1: like even like growing up with my family, we would
Speaker 1: some and like on holidays we'll have coffee after dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know, on one level, the bitterness We've talked
Speaker 1: about this before, apparatives and DJ just thieves are the
Speaker 1: same exact there's no difference the bitterness we have. Like
Speaker 1: from what I understand, we've evolved. When we taste bitterness,
Speaker 1: it gets your digestive system moving because you think you're poisoned.
Speaker 1: Because like supposedly, when we're like our ancestors, when they
Speaker 1: taste a poison, that was a sign to our body
Speaker 1: that we were or we tasted bitterness, there was a
Speaker 1: sign that something might not be good for us. So
Speaker 1: apritif gets you your digestive system moving, so you're hungry
Speaker 1: for dinner. DJ stif after dinner is to do the
Speaker 1: same thing. But to aid digestion, get things moving. So
Speaker 1: maybe coffee does that. But I also don't understand how
Speaker 1: I sleep really well those nights after I have like
Speaker 1: an after dinner coffee with the caffeine.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: When I go back to Jersey and you know, with
Speaker 3: a Bonx family, you know, they're an Italian family in
Speaker 3: Jersey and a big thing with them is coffee, and
Speaker 3: which is like after dinner they have coffee and where
Speaker 3: it's like they'll get like a dessert and coffee and yeah, gotcha,
Speaker 3: or I don't know, it's coffee and dessert or they yeah,
Speaker 3: like and is that and stuff happens.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I can't imagine winning a coffee
Speaker 2: after a meal.
Speaker 1: But I've done it before and like it doesn't keep
Speaker 1: me up, maybe because maybe because like maybe the food
Speaker 1: in my stomach is dampening caffeine. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm actually genuinely curious. I could google it, but I'd
Speaker 1: rather hear what people have to say. Mary, do you
Speaker 1: know do you know what the question was? We're even
Speaker 1: listening her listeners.
Speaker 2: She shook her head vigorously. That's the Seinfeld thing, I
Speaker 2: asked her. She just kept on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no Like the DJ's teeth and apper
Speaker 4: teeth is like beyond me.
Speaker 3: What are Yeah, Mike has ex Like when Mike said,
Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. I guess that's technically true,
Speaker 3: but Mary, it's wet. It's like when Flanders was explaining
Speaker 3: apple cider to Homer and his brain floated out of
Speaker 3: his head and he just collapsed.
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of what happens there.
Speaker 4: Happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Pre pre dinner drinks and after dinner drinks. They're usually
Speaker 1: bitter because they're in like Italian culture. They're better help
Speaker 1: you poop after dinner, but before dinner's to get you hungry,
Speaker 1: Apper a teef like appetizing, and then DJ just eve digested.
Speaker 4: I'm gone.
Speaker 2: They're the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. Fucking don't both.
Speaker 2: Why don't you go compare boats with Beckler?
Speaker 1: I fucking wish I had a boat.
Speaker 2: I'll lend you one. I would be so insufferable.
Speaker 1: If I had, I would get like the loudest, most
Speaker 1: lime green speed boat with like shark's teeth painted on
Speaker 1: the side.
Speaker 4: That's actually a fun questions like what would your boat
Speaker 4: look like?
Speaker 2: I just described it min sharkth too.
Speaker 3: I've always had that's the coolest thing. Oh no, didn't
Speaker 3: that be green? But I need the scary shark face.
Speaker 3: Like it's an old World War two plan.
Speaker 1: If you if you live in New York or Jersey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just describing the Beast. Have you guys
Speaker 1: seen this? Do you know what this is?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, Dan, I feel like you would actually ironically love it.
Speaker 1: So we go out to the pier sometimes and on
Speaker 1: the Hudson River there's a thing called the Beast. It
Speaker 1: is this huge lime green with sharks teeth and like
Speaker 1: black zigzag things. It's one of the It's like a
Speaker 1: boat that is designed to be fast as fuck but
Speaker 1: also seat like sixty people. And what they do is
Speaker 1: they like they do drifting in the Hudson to splash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and every time we're at the pure, man is like,
Speaker 1: who who who pays to ride that thing? I was like,
Speaker 1: Dan would probably love that.
Speaker 2: Oh that thing is fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Yet yeah, look up, look up like a video or
Speaker 1: a gift of it, because it drifts and it's it's
Speaker 1: designed to splash the ship out of the people on board.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on board of this. I'm a boat guy.
Speaker 1: Now, but like every time, I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to not go on that thing. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I want the Hudson River water all over me. But
Speaker 1: at least it's surface water.
Speaker 3: It's this fucking cool. Yeah, if we're ever in New
Speaker 3: York City again together, we got to do this.
Speaker 1: Do it like you could get get the giant bomb
Speaker 1: staff on that thing that'd be yes your podcast for Wait, like,
Speaker 1: see how many people at seats? I assumed it's like fifty.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's more.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's it looks like we.
Speaker 4: Do this for your wedding.
Speaker 2: This is so we should have rode that to the venue.
Speaker 3: You get to opt which boat you want to take,
Speaker 3: the classy ferry or for the beast.
Speaker 2: You get taken the beast.
Speaker 1: Our fucking officiate gets there and you just soaked.
Speaker 2: Like crashing.
Speaker 3: You guys are just waiting for me at the altar
Speaker 3: thing and what's up doors?
Speaker 2: Drunk ramp off?
Speaker 1: Just jump out and parachute down. How many up to
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight guests you can.
Speaker 4: Be married on the best thirty minutes you have your nuptials.
Speaker 3: Okay, hang on, you got to see the guy that
Speaker 3: works there and runs the thing. Blow this up nice
Speaker 3: and big. Here look at this fucking guy with the
Speaker 3: flame shorts. Oh man, oh wowuck, we're living here. Guy
Speaker 3: Fer's like yeah, yeah, because, oh my god. Look at
Speaker 3: the woman three to the left in the front. She
Speaker 3: is miserable.
Speaker 4: Images that woman's husband drug her.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Wait when is this photo from? They all look like
Speaker 1: they're dressed like it's done that.
Speaker 2: It looks like two thousand and four to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is when the Beast was in its prime.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh difference red and yellow. They change the
Speaker 1: paint job.
Speaker 2: It's cooler now with the green.
Speaker 1: But every like every once in a while, we'll see it.
Speaker 1: You can hear it. It's like it's like riding the waves.
Speaker 1: It's that it's probably backlar driving in around. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we got an email. We got another email. People ask
Speaker 1: us what to do in New York City ride the
Speaker 1: Beast ride give me, give me ease, point one of
Speaker 1: these a jersey and say what up? But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I forgot what the original question was. But thanks for
Speaker 1: the question, Steven. I got one more because we got
Speaker 1: we got some time. How's it going in Sorciernan? I
Speaker 1: pissed myself out and thought of that. Sometimes while out
Speaker 1: and about I smell the right combination of cigarette smoke
Speaker 1: and Aqua de joe, and suddenly it's two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight and I'm a drunk sixteen year old wandering around Germany.
Speaker 1: I wore that cologne on that trip. Do you have
Speaker 1: a memory tied to a very specific scent that your
Speaker 1: ol factory likes to dredge up every now and then?
Speaker 1: Peace out slots Our old.
Speaker 2: Friend wes this pog slammer this. I bought it on eBay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the one. Talk about this because I feel like the.
Speaker 3: One that I thought it smelled like, I remember it
Speaker 3: smelling in bond because like it smells like it came
Speaker 3: from like a house filled with cigarette smoke.
Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, we specifically talked about how cigarettes make
Speaker 1: me nostalgic, but maybe we did talk. I usually remember
Speaker 1: what I've talked about it on a thing before. For sure,
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a very specific smell in the
Speaker 1: plastic crates of a specific company that made them tote
Speaker 1: and Decker tote boxes. They're plastic crates that we used
Speaker 1: like there, I remember we had a ton from the nineties.
Speaker 1: They were like.
Speaker 2: Two feet high and they had the handles.
Speaker 1: That the lid went on. I don't know, it'll come
Speaker 1: to me, but we stored all our Christmas decorations in those,
Speaker 1: so over the year they would get a lot like
Speaker 1: this musty smell being in the basement, which sounds gross,
Speaker 1: but then we'd open it up and I would just
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Christmas didn't start until I smelled that.
Speaker 1: And then there was this one specific like painted porcelain
Speaker 1: bell that used to have a noise maker in it
Speaker 1: that would play like Christmas carols when you press the
Speaker 1: bottom of it, but the noise maker fell out, so
Speaker 1: throughout the year that bell would just trap the musty smells.
Speaker 1: So I'd be like, I'd put it on my face
Speaker 1: and be like, it's like I was huffing glue out
Speaker 1: of a brown paper bag.
Speaker 3: But Mike, you described this with the exact same passion
Speaker 3: you describe smelling asparagus p Yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is also good. That doesn't make me nostalgic. I
Speaker 1: just get a weird bone piece when I smell asparagus pee,
Speaker 1: which is weird because ironically you can't really.
Speaker 2: Pee with a bone Were you smelling that. Yeah, you've
Speaker 2: done being at that point.
Speaker 1: I showed you what I have to do in the morning.
Speaker 1: I like the weird crouch you have to do and
Speaker 1: you have to pee, but you just woke up. Go on,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you pee in the morning
Speaker 1: with morning wood?
Speaker 3: Well, you do the you put one hand against the
Speaker 3: wall and you make yourself kind of a forty five
Speaker 3: degree not forty that's.
Speaker 2: A little yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a tripod.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm like, I do like the like a
Speaker 1: half back in football stance.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like a three point stance. Then you're like
Speaker 2: getting down.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll show you at some point, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll send you a diagram. Yeah. I also, i'd like
Speaker 1: many people, I think growing up in the suburbs, fresh
Speaker 1: cut grass definitely brings me back, as does hose water
Speaker 1: specifically that like corroded metal water smell that like when
Speaker 1: people are using their sprinklers in the lawn, you'd get
Speaker 1: that would just drift out of There's a couple lawns
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, not many, but like there's a couple
Speaker 1: of houses with actual grass lawns, and when they're using
Speaker 1: the sprinkler I like, I have to stop and get
Speaker 1: after it with my nose for a few minutes. Yeah, married,
Speaker 1: do you have any or is it just? Is it
Speaker 1: just malibu?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: What's the smell of malibu?
Speaker 2: Malibou rem Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh right, I was gonna say my I have an
Speaker 4: ex boyfriend in middle school who used to always smell
Speaker 4: like Hollister cologne, And now when I smell, which is
Speaker 4: very rare, it makes me fucking mad. It makes me
Speaker 4: mad because he dumped me and I don't like him,
Speaker 4: and I'm still mad about it. I'm still angry at.
Speaker 2: Him spraying the studio before Game of the Year.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna you know what you did, Brad, and
Speaker 4: you his name was Brad, We'll dos him, but his
Speaker 4: honest to God, his name was Brad. And he lived
Speaker 4: in another town, which means my mom had to drive
Speaker 4: me a long way to go see him, and he
Speaker 4: dumped me two weeks before prom. You can go to hell, Brad.
Speaker 1: Wait, you actually did date someone who quote unquote goes
Speaker 1: to another school.
Speaker 4: Yes, and and I was I was a freshman and
Speaker 4: he was a junior, and he dumped me before prom
Speaker 4: and then he couldn't get another date and so on,
Speaker 4: Like the day before prom he reinvited me and we
Speaker 4: went wow awkward, and then the next day he dumped
Speaker 4: me for real.
Speaker 2: Jesus, fuck you.
Speaker 1: Rad is psychological minefield.
Speaker 4: I'm I'll be bitter about it forever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I can't wait. I probably have some house
Speaker 1: or clones stashed away somewhere. AKA. At all times, he
Speaker 1: had a.
Speaker 4: Car that was lowered, and my driveway had an incline,
Speaker 4: and every time he tried to drive it onto my driveway,
Speaker 4: you could hear the car like screw against the ground.
Speaker 4: Fuck you, Brad, your stupid car.
Speaker 1: Any other smells like anything that doesn't set you off?
Speaker 1: What calms you when you smell it? From back in
Speaker 1: the day, from.
Speaker 4: Back in the day.
Speaker 1: Christmas?
Speaker 4: He smells make me happy, you know, you know Christmas smells.
Speaker 1: I don't like the smell of bug spray, but it
Speaker 1: does bring me back to when I campll out when
Speaker 1: I was young. Sure, sunscreen lotion too, but I use
Speaker 1: sunscreen lotions still often enough where it's not like a
Speaker 1: thing I associate with childhood.
Speaker 4: Campfires associate me with childhood, like the smoke of a
Speaker 4: fresh fire and a freshly lit mollow.
Speaker 1: M mmm, first you toast the mallow.
Speaker 4: First, you see. I feel like Paul Record will be like,
Speaker 4: it's not called a mallow, but yeah, it's it's a mallow.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you Wes and fuck you Brad.
Speaker 4: You know what you did. You know what you did?
Speaker 1: All right, that's our show. I wonder we get some
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Speaker 4: God, it was so long ago.
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Speaker 3: add free. But yeah, doing a lot of great stuff
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 1: Right, what about you check.
Speaker 4: Out giant bomb dot com because I'm on the rate
Speaker 4: latest travel log through Portland, which is pretty fun. And
Speaker 4: I also stream on my Twitch channel every Monday, and
Speaker 4: I do try and stream the games that I'll talk
Speaker 4: about on here, so you guys got to get to
Speaker 4: check them out with me, which is fun.
Speaker 1: All right, We'll be back in two weeks till then.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your summers or if you're down under somewhere and
Speaker 1: hopefully it's not too cold, and uh, we'll see you then.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.