WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:12.000 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape cast. I'm 2 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.359 Mike Mahardy. Don't have any rhymes today. I'm gonna be 3 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:16.399 I'm gonna be serious from now on. I'm gonna be 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:18.399 a straight lace host. I'm gonna i gotta be go 5 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:19.960 back to being the straight man. I feel like I 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.800 gotta be the the audience stand in for these two jokers. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:28.920 I always show up with Mary Kish Wizzlezle Wazzle and 8 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:30.440 Dan Rikert. 9 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:33.439 Serious, Mike, Okay, let's get serious here. 10 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.240 Today on Blake Club, people will were giving me a 11 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:39.280 ship because I didn't know there was a moral to 12 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.200 the odyssey. So all right, serious Mike, what's the moral 13 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:42.840 of the odyssey? 14 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.280 You never truly come home from war? 15 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.159 That's wait, that's closer to what I said. 16 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:52.520 I said something like, uh oh, there's no place like 17 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:54.439 home or something like that, and they were like, no, 18 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:58.560 it's about war and how the repeated volleys of war 19 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.079 will carry us through the ages or something, and everyone 20 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.039 everyone in the chat was like, I can't believe this 21 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.599 idiot doesn't know about the follies of war moral and 22 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:06.879 oh jeez, I. 23 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:07.640 Had no idea. 24 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:09.560 I still have not seen the movie. I told you guys. 25 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:10.560 I wanted to know. 26 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.159 The poem, you know. Yeah, it's based on a poem. 27 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.000 It's based on it's been around for a while. Oh yeah, 28 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:20.719 it was that a Bukowski. I think it's mister Rogers. 29 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.000 Oh okay, shit, now I'm embarrassed. 30 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.239 I thought he's an author. 31 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:26.519 Now I thought it was I thought it was Ocean Voong. 32 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:28.359 Yeah. 33 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:30.239 No, I still have not seen the movie. New York 34 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.000 tickets have been very hard to get unless there are 35 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.519 like ten pm showings. 36 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.200 We went at ten am. Yeah, we did the early one. 37 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.200 I normally would not mind at ten to one am. However, 38 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.920 the only Imax, the Imax we would go to is 39 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.159 on the Upper west Side, so it's like leaving the 40 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.000 Upper west Side at one am to come back to 41 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:47.480 my neighborhood would be a bit of a pain. 42 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.920 So I think there is a major fucking marketing issue 43 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.920 with Imax. I think it is like because it should 44 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.319 not be this fucking hard to realize, like especially a 45 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.200 movie like Yeah, I run out of this with Avatar 46 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.400 in this. Movies that like a big thing like these 47 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.359 are like the movie theater movies this was shot and 48 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.120 all Imax avatars, all this three D and everything, and 49 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.319 like I'm someone who sees a lot of movies and 50 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.840 I don't know, like, okay, so there's seventy milimeter, there's 51 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:14.639 the Imax with laser, there's the Adobe Digital, there's the 52 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.520 you know, like and I can't figure it out. I 53 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:19.240 think for your average person who just wants to see 54 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.280 the best version, it's like it's so fucking confusing. And 55 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.840 also Imax is like an aspect ratio thing, and my 56 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:26.919 understanding is it's like almost closer to four x three. 57 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.439 It's a really big, big, tall aspect ratio. But then 58 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.080 Imax seventy milimeters is like this fucking it's it's like 59 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.680 six inches tall and like two miles wide, And it's like, 60 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:37.879 how is that both Imax? 61 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:38.919 This is a problem. 62 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:43.080 Yeah. It reminds me of when like Xbox Game Pass 63 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.759 rejiggered its tier. It's like the tiered subscription. I was like, okay, 64 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:48.439 just tell me which one is gonna give me the 65 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.599 most games for as little money as possible. I just 66 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.000 want to know, Like PlayStation did that when they first. 67 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.039 Reach that it was not much better. 68 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:57.319 Yeah that's yeah, just tell me how I can play 69 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.599 this or that game. And like I had to install 70 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.439 an app or a plug in on Steam to tell 71 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.719 me stuff that's already on game Pass, Like I just 72 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:06.919 I just wish things were not this difficult. And yeah, 73 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.120 I still have not seen The Odyssey because I I 74 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.960 don't want to see it not in imax, and that's. 75 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.240 Which one are you gonna see? 76 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.599 I think the seventy million meter, But that's the. 77 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:23.000 Time, just drop let it to you. I saw it 78 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:26.199 in a broke boy theater for regular people. 79 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:27.479 And it was, oh, okay, gotcha. 80 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.599 Yeah, Like I prefer those kinds of theaters for most movies, 81 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.159 like The Angelica on Houston and the New York is awesome, 82 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.520 like really old school. You can literally hear the subway 83 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.479 go by like what seems like behind the screen because 84 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:39.120 you're around. 85 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.039 Fine. It was absolutely fine. I felt like I saw 86 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.479 the film like I saw everything. Sometimes it felt a 87 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.840 little zoomed in. I think that is the truth, because 88 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.759 there's a lot of action sequences. I bet if it 89 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.360 was a little wider, like a little taller, I would 90 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.120 have seen a little bit more. But it was one 91 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:59.680 hundred percent fine. And I don't think you need to 92 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.199 I don't care what anyone says where they're just like 93 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.919 this is the ultimate way to see this film. It's like, no, 94 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.039 it's not. You made a film. People are paying money 95 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.639 to go see it. If it was a bad film, 96 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.639 people wouldn't pay to go see it. It's totally fine 97 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.920 to see it in any theater. It's fine. 98 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:22.519 I move my I've I have avoided like spoilers in 99 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.399 as much as you can avoid spoilers for something that like, 100 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:29.600 those events have happened in forty million stories since that 101 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.319 was first written. But my one friend did text me saying, hey, 102 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.399 I'm not a spoiling thing, but there's a scene that's 103 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.120 gonna make your misophonia go crazy. 104 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.759 Oh I know exactly what they're talking about. 105 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.480 And I've heard a few more drip feed of like 106 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:45.560 the scene, and I was like, okay, so it's that, 107 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.000 but it's grosser than normal. 108 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.759 Oh there's some glory, slurpy sounds going on in them. 109 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:53.319 Yeah, I can't wait for that. I like, yeah, noise 110 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:54.959 canceling headphones just for that scene. 111 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.839 Oh it's pretty long one too. They're growing it down 112 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:00.279 for a while. Yeah, can't wait. 113 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:05.600 But yeah, I Mary similar to you, I value the 114 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:10.720 venue itself over like the format. I'd say maybe to 115 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.279 my detriment, But I don't know. I'd rather go to 116 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.240 like like an old school theater that has a bar 117 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.879 upstairs or something like that, and then like some cool 118 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.160 spots nearby for dinner and not have to go to 119 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.240 ten pm. But I don't know, I'll see it. I'm 120 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:23.720 going to see it. 121 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:25.959 It's not like you're not going to see it. It's 122 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:30.079 basically like the movie of the uh, it's like the 123 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:31.560 movie of the summer. You're going to see it. 124 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:32.519 Yeah. 125 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.279 So anyway, I just I hate the idea that everyone's like, 126 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:36.759 you have to see it, and I'm like I hate 127 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.639 every time someone's like you have to see this in 128 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.920 IMAX and it's like, fuck off, you don't have to 129 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.399 see it in anything. There's forty two theaters in the 130 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.839 United States that show it the way it's supposed to 131 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.759 be seen. It's there's like something like whether you like 132 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:53.279 intend to or not, it's just like it's very elitist 133 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.439 that like they're only a way that you can see it. 134 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.639 Like Dan didn't even know how war works, and he 135 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.639 fucking is like, oh, I think I saw it the 136 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.240 best way possible. You don't know what you saw. 137 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.360 I'm saying, I don't know. 138 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.800 I'm specifically saying I don't know because I think it's 139 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.319 confusing and bad to do it this way. 140 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:09.399 Which one did you see? 141 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.800 Uh? I think it was IMAX with laser. Okay, So 142 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.480 I'm saying, Mary, I don't know if I saw the 143 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:17.120 best way. I just like I'm saying, I had no 144 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:18.160 idea of knowing which. 145 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.319 Was supposed to We saw an IMAX, and you don't 146 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:22.199 understand the movie. 147 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:24.439 I want to say, no, I understand the movie. 148 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.480 I want to say I looked on the actual AMC 149 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:32.160 like the theater's site, and they showed they had screenshots 150 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:37.120 of the difference. Yeah, seventy milimeter was definitely showing more overall, 151 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:42.480 but wider, not taller, right, But I thought it was 152 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:47.199 the actual You were still seeing the same resolution top 153 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.040 to bottom. It was just smaller because they had to 154 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.680 stretch it. Does that make sense? You're noting, No, I 155 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.879 think you super are. Okay, That's the thing I'm saying. 156 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:57.879 So there's like no ideal way to see the movie. 157 00:06:57.879 --> 00:06:58.959 Then technically you just. 158 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.399 I'm sure people have their thoughts and stuff, but like 159 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:03.959 Jesus Christ, like I'm looking, if you just search for 160 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:07.120 IMAX versus IMAX seventy millimeters. You'll see these images and 161 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.319 it's like you are absolutely missing like a lot based 162 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:11.600 on what version you see. 163 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.040 It's like it's like going to fight. I don't. 164 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:15.399 I don't know that. I want to be like doing 165 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.639 like a tennis match thing, to see the whole movie 166 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:22.360 throughout this runtime. Yeah, I want to like be looking 167 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.560 straight ahead and I want to, like I want to 168 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:28.160 feel where the director wants my eyes to go. I don't. 169 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:28.360 I know. 170 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.079 It's like a giant Most say, I get up museum. 171 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:32.480 I don't want to go to a museum. I want 172 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:34.480 to see Matt Damon stab people. 173 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:36.240 They just need to brand things better. 174 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.600 This is a it's a big movie, and some people 175 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:41.040 want to see it the best way, and it's it's 176 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:41.680 hard to do. 177 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:43.560 I'll put it on Jeff Keeley and complain. 178 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:45.560 Oh I know what he'll say. 179 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.199 Yeah, I just posted in the in our discord you 180 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:50.240 look at look at how much you'd be fucking missing. 181 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:56.120 If you saw seventy millimeters. Yeah, like that's fucking insane 182 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:57.680 seventy millimeters. 183 00:07:57.920 --> 00:07:59.519 So yes, it is the same resolution. 184 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:01.920 They look like the size, but you are like missing 185 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.000 so much of the top and bottom. If you see 186 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.120 seventy milimeters versus Imax seventy milimeters. 187 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.920 But then if you see I'm. 188 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.360 You see thirty five milimeter? Are you watching it on 189 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:12.319 an iPhone? 190 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.399 Watch on your CRT? Yeah? 191 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:16.839 Oh this is uh yeah, I hate all that. 192 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.360 That's the only way to watch it is on my CRT. 193 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.519 I miss give me a. 194 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:26.120 Four VHS feature and I have to keep putting new 195 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:26.560 ones in. 196 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.240 I just want I want just to like, as a 197 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.839 middle finger Nolan's next movie, I wanted to shoot it 198 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:34.960 all on like physical film, and you can only use 199 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.200 old school projectors that you got to get the dust off. 200 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.200 I don't think he's not he wouldn't do that, but. 201 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:41.399 I swear to God, after twenty years of I was 202 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.279 having to buy widescreen TVs and stuff, if they just 203 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.200 decided to go back to squares, I'm going to fucking 204 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:46.559 damn it. 205 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:47.360 Are you kidding me? Yeah? 206 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:49.320 You have to have all these re releases of every 207 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.279 game that came out during the HD era, but they 208 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.440 have to be four by three again. 209 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.200 That's what I want. Fuck yeah, Halo in four by 210 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:56.799 three again? 211 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.159 Okay, no, sounds all right, that's uns right. 212 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.399 Yeah, but now I still have not seen that. You guys. 213 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.399 Uh you guys saw each other a little media. 214 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.360 Uh yeah, on the equivalent of IMAX and I r L. 215 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:10.519 We saw each. 216 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:17.519 Other in I three sixty VR. Yeah, Mary, from your 217 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.080 point of view, because Dan, I think you've already talked 218 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.039 about stuff on Giant Bomb and like Giant Bomb onniences 219 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.840 already seen it for fire Escape Crew. Set up what happened, 220 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:25.679 and then tell us your side of things. 221 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:30.399 These bozos came into town. They wanted to do a 222 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.159 missed convention, which I didn't even know was a thing, 223 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:38.720 but it sounds like Mysterion is an annual creention mysterium. 224 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:42.240 Oh god, I had two. I had two embarrassing flubs. 225 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.000 One is that one where I keep calling it the 226 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.600 wrong thing. The second is is when I walked in 227 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:52.440 Uh no, wait, that wasn't even one of the two. 228 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:54.919 The first one was I went to a I went 229 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.120 to the hotel where they were having the con and 230 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.159 I paid and I was walking around. I was like, 231 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.360 it's pretty busy and this is pretty cool, and they 232 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.080 were like, oh, you're in the wrong con and there's 233 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:07.120 two cons happening at that convention. And I bought a 234 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:13.360 ticket for a card convention which were trading Pokemon card. 235 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.840 All the Pokemon guys were given the miss guys wedgies. 236 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:23.000 It was a slaughter. They were the Alps. They thought, yeah, oh. 237 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:23.720 It was a massacre. 238 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:25.559 It was bad. 239 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:30.120 I mean everybody was avoiding the Pokemon cards guys. Those 240 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.679 guys are muscular and they are not messing around. There 241 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.720 was a lot of Pokemon cards to trade. I did 242 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.360 end up walking around later and at least so it 243 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.919 was super embarrassing, but I like walked around for a 244 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.320 little bit being like, I didn't even know mist had 245 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.879 a card game. This is so neat that all these 246 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:51.879 all these missed enthusiasts are just walking around trading cards. 247 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.559 I was at the wrong con. It was the same hotel, 248 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.440 different area of the hotel. 249 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.720 Were you saying all this to yourself out loud? 250 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:04.519 Yeah, yeah, we look at all these missed cards card game. 251 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:04.919 Wow. 252 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.320 They're like, who is this stupid idiot? I walk into 253 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.720 the hotel to meet you guys, and they're like, oh, 254 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:15.960 that's not the right con. I was like, well, looking 255 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.799 forward to buying a second convention ticket. We go to 256 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:28.399 the second con missed con f Mysteriums Singular, and I 257 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.440 went and I talked to a guy. Everyone was very nice. 258 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:33.879 I s will say that everyone is so kind and 259 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:38.399 they're obviously like lovely and I I sincerely was excited 260 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:42.039 to walk into this con and meet everybody. And a 261 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.519 very polite person said, Hi are you uh do you? 262 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.639 Are you familiar with MYSS? I said, oh, yeah, I've 263 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.159 played some of the first one I played Rivian and 264 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:58.759 he was like, ri Ri Rivian is like an electronic car. 265 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.240 I just saw the audit cha the other day Matt 266 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.120 Damn was great. 267 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.320 I embarrassed myself Multini. I went, yes, of course, Riven, 268 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:15.080 I've played some of that. That's great. And then we 269 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:22.399 did some puzzles. Some we did I don't know, but 270 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:28.159 it was any other language numbers, miss numbers. 271 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.120 So correct me if I'm wrong. You went to this 272 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.120 because Mike Minatti is super intimist. 273 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:36.360 Well, Mike and Jan and Grubb do a series on 274 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:39.120 on Giant Bomb where they play Missed. I have never 275 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.360 seen or played Missed at all. So, but we also 276 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:44.919 we wanted to do a road trip. We was one 277 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.600 of our incentives from like a big stream we did 278 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:47.960 last year. So it's like, all right, this we get 279 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.120 excuse to get a road trip in So we flew 280 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.879 into San Francisco and then it's like a fourteen hour 281 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.840 drive basically up to Portland. So I just kind of 282 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.240 tagged on for the road trip and then went to 283 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.840 the misconvention, and again everybody was like superretuper nice. It 284 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.759 was like really quaint, and the way they put it 285 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:04.679 together was really fun with all the like different puzzles 286 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:06.480 and stuff, because you know, it seems like myst is 287 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.679 very puzzle heavy, so it's just fun just like sit 288 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:10.960 around table doing a bunch of like weird Sodoku and 289 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:15.039 you know, design a mist creature. I designed mine, put 290 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.519 it up on the wall and stuff, and then grub 291 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.799 him nodding. Chuck did a trial of a character that 292 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:22.759 was in Mystay, and that was fun to watch. 293 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.399 The dad and it was like whether or not he 294 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.960 was a good dad. This was actually really informative for 295 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.320 me because as someone who's not super familiar with the 296 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:34.000 Missed Universe, I like read to Wikipedia articles to at 297 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.039 least understand what he has done. And it looks like 298 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:40.039 he like trapped his sons in books, but his sons were. 299 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:41.440 Evil, so illegal. 300 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:44.360 Isn't that Expedition thirty three's plot too. 301 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.120 So that's a painting. That's a painting. 302 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:48.440 They it is not illegal to. 303 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.720 Put your kids inside a book. That's what I would 304 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.279 have said if I was on the phone. Yeah, that's 305 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:54.720 the same lot as Jumanji. 306 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:55.720 But they're in a board game. 307 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.480 That's a board game. Yeah, and the Tron is a 308 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.799 video game. Is miss the odyssey of. 309 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:10.360 Just modern storytelling, tweaking misst miss Rivian. I'd be curious 310 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.080 to play oud it. 311 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:13.720 It is just like point and click puzzles and stuff 312 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:15.480 like that. I could see that aging fairly well, Like 313 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.440 I am kind of curious there was isn't a lot 314 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:18.279 of passion for it. 315 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.879 The Witness is considered a spiritual successor to it in 316 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:21.679 some ways. 317 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:25.080 Right, Like I love the Witness, I love Blueprints. You 318 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:26.759 know games that, like people say, are like, oh, this 319 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.919 is totally like a mislike experience. So I could see 320 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.639 myself like it, and it's just it was like a PC 321 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.600 thing back then that you know, I didn't play. 322 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.840 Yeah, I could see it some aspects of not having aged. 323 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:42.080 Well, it's still good. I think that what's really fun 324 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:44.639 about the universe as well, or at least the con 325 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.159 is that a lot of the people there was like 326 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.519 another game that I wasn't familiar with. But there's almost 327 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:51.559 like an open world game where you could play with 328 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.480 your buds. And that's really what makes the con active 329 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.600 is all these people made friends in the open world 330 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.120 version of in the Missed universe, and that I think 331 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.399 that's a huge community build for them, is that they 332 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.639 all played in this server together for a long time. 333 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:08.960 Oh, it was like an online Missed. 334 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.799 Yeah, but it's not. I don't think it's there anymore. 335 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.399 Yeah, oh okay, interesting. 336 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.600 Yeah, anyway, apparently that was like very popular. Now. When 337 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.399 we were doing the sudoku, Dan said, I challenge all 338 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.039 of you to that I'm going to beat your times 339 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.440 in sudoku, and got really into it. We all were 340 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:26.960 like heads down and then it looked up and you 341 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:28.039 were gone. 342 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.720 Because I won you and I didn't want to rub 343 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.440 it in. It was a nice quiet convention. I didn't 344 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:36.519 want to be the big aha I beat you, so 345 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.679 like I just I won. I got the victory in 346 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:42.200 my mind, which is enough. I don't need to, you know, 347 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.080 brag or anything like that. So I just set it down. 348 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:46.759 I threw it away. Actually I didn't want to make 349 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:48.799 anyone feel bad. And then I walked out of the convention. 350 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:50.799 It would be out of characters for him to gloat, 351 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.720 right right, Yeah, I was being polite. So what else 352 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:54.480 did you in Portland? 353 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:59.080 After? In between the con I took them to some 354 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:04.440 good dinners. It's always fun challenging myself to what the 355 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.679 the boys will eat because Dan likes I'm gonna speak 356 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.519 for you, Dan. I think Dan likes to eat well 357 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.879 and to eat like nice foods, not super fancy or anything. 358 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.120 But I think you like a good restaurant, and I 359 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.440 think you have dives. I like dives to you like 360 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:21.919 dives too, But I think you appreciate a good restaurant. 361 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.879 Oh yeah, definitely, whereas I'm not sure some of them do. 362 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:31.679 I think it's very particular of eating like pretty much 363 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:33.480 meat and cheese. 364 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:38.759 Yes you do? Yeah, wow much? 365 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:43.480 I say that was that Dan soundboard? That's crazy, Yeah, weird, weird, 366 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:44.440 that's Minati. 367 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.159 I've heard he's picky, right. 368 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.960 Oh, he's way worse than I am. Definitely. Yeah. 369 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.080 I would say you've gotten better over the years, Dan, like. 370 00:16:55.159 --> 00:16:55.840 I've gotten much. 371 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.360 I think even at my worst, which was probably like 372 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.559 my twenties and obviously younger, I don't think I'm as 373 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.559 bad as like Manati is now, I don't think I've 374 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.839 ever been to that level. What about grubbing jan They're 375 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.960 normal human beings, Okay, cool, Yeah, I mean relatively to us. 376 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.799 Yeah. Yeah, we've got like slight tangent. 377 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.279 Like when I travel for work, We've got some coworkers 378 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.799 who they'll travel to major food cities and then just 379 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.400 go to like the cheesecake factory. 380 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.559 That's what drove me fucking insane. When we went to 381 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.160 New Orleans, I, me and my dad did for his 382 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.640 fiftieth birthday. And it's like I was so excited because 383 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:30.359 I've been there a few times. 384 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:31.759 At this point. I was like, I got all these places. 385 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:33.599 You're gonna love this fried chicken place, places that aren't 386 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:35.720 like fancy restaurants because he would hate that. And then 387 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.519 it's just we were comped at Hera's because he gambles 388 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:41.720 a lot and so he had free buffets there, and 389 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:43.319 it was just like I'd be like, all right, Dad, 390 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:44.519 so for dinner night, we're gonna go to this place. 391 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.759 We're gonna get po boys over here. He's like what, no, no, no, no, 392 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.599 We're just eating at the casino. And I was like, Dad, 393 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.119 that's your birthday I'll cover it. I got some plans. 394 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.480 You're gonna fuck. It's just a burgern Fries place, nothing fancy, 395 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:58.079 but you're gonna love it. But it's it's free. We 396 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.319 we got the buffet here and so it's just free 397 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:01.039 fucking meal. 398 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:04.640 He wanted to have it. The Haras Casino is dead. 399 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:06.680 The kind of person who like, if there's an open bar, 400 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.839 he's obligated to get hammered. 401 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.960 If there's something free, it is like he's just gonna 402 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:12.759 go no sound yes. 403 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.079 The joke, it's like, well it's open bar, Like mathematically 404 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:17.000 I have to get drunk. 405 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.720 You'd be losing money. Not too Yeah, I I subscribe 406 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:20.119 to that part. 407 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.599 Yeah okay, but yeah, like it's it's people tell me 408 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.240 they will go to like cheesecake factory when they're traveling. 409 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:32.920 Or that's I'm sorry, right wait, no, that's the wrong button. 410 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.480 But my voice don't use any of the buttons. They're 411 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:41.160 all the wrong button. I don't want any of them. 412 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:43.319 That is one hundred percent of nay. 413 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:45.359 Like we will be in New York City and he 414 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.880 will if he sees like we have like trying to 415 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:50.279 horse blinder him, like down street so he doesn't see 416 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.400 a Margaritaville, an olive garden, or a cheesecake factory, because 417 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.359 he will one need to go to that. 418 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.279 I don't want to spoil a surprise, but I just it. 419 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.519 I didn't know he was super into like tiki bars, 420 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:04.680 and I have a few spots I would like to 421 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:06.519 surprise him with next time he's in town. 422 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.079 He showed me his teaky collection because he keeps he 423 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.400 buys mugs from the different ones that he goes to, 424 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:17.640 and it's funny because they're like kind of just on 425 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.000 this nonchalant shelf, like they're not in a beautiful case 426 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.759 or anything. They're just kind of like hanging out on 427 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.559 a shelf. And I said that you can drink them, 428 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:27.920 and yeah, that's what I said, and he goes, oh, 429 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:32.319 these are display only you drink at. 430 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:36.559 They're not a nice yea, I agree, go of mine. 431 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:38.359 Like he took me to the t bar at Disney. 432 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:39.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 433 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.759 He took me to the Trader Sam's at Disney, and 434 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:43.559 I wound up buying a couple of the souvenir ones there. 435 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:46.720 But like Mary, I think deeply concerned him because he's 436 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.319 going to the super special Disney bar or whatever the 437 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:54.039 expedition thirty three bar or whatever, that it's hard to 438 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.680 get in. It's like this whole secret thing. And Mary 439 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.680 explained thirty three. I think, yeah, yeah, and it's like 440 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.160 with the one thing at like Disneyland he's never done. 441 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.839 And uh so she explained to him that they have 442 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:06.799 all these like seasonal and like you know. 443 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.000 Teeky mugs and stuff. Yeah, she's been there. 444 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:12.599 Yeah, you're one of them. 445 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:15.119 I couldn't give a shit about it, but the fact 446 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.480 that like he's so into it, I was like, yeah, 447 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:18.680 I've been there, no problem. 448 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.559 It was like, you pen, there are people in the 449 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.720 world that are like aching to get into a bar 450 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:26.720 in Disney World. 451 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.920 Yes, oh you know, yes, no, no, this is like 452 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:30.559 a life goal. 453 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.599 Yeah, this one's really difficult because I think someone has 454 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:35.720 to sponsor you to get in. So it's like really 455 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:36.640 really hard to get in. 456 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:39.319 And he's gonna spend like three thousand dollars on tik mugs. 457 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:41.400 I'm sure I had. 458 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.720 Good for it, good for them, good for all the 459 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:46.240 people are sponsoring others to get into this bar. That 460 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:48.359 those are the same people who I think those are 461 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:50.599 the people who went to clubs in the meatpacking district 462 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.759 and then had kids and now go there in Disney World, 463 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.559 who because you need sponsors to get into a lot 464 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:58.960 of the clubs there, like so. 465 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.279 Mary said, it wasn't Mary, you said, it wasn't even 466 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:02.920 like that special, right, It's just I. 467 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.880 Think it's a nice dinner, and I think that for 468 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:10.359 Disney enthusiasts, it's probably incredible. It's really well decorated. But 469 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:13.680 I I didn't appreciate it because I didn't really understand 470 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.119 it at the time that it was like the most 471 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.440 exclusive thing to get into. It was just a girl 472 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.440 friends of mine's birthday and I was just, you know, 473 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.359 I was I was there to support her and her 474 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:28.240 birthday wishes and that's what she wanted. And I was like, cool, 475 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.519 we'll go to this bar. And then when I was there, 476 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.559 I was like, oh, this is a big deal, but 477 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.759 I didn't really process it at the time. I think 478 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.359 he'll actually like it more because he'll actually, you know, he'll. 479 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:44.759 Oh, he will definitely like it more. Yes, every horse, 480 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:47.279 I think so. Yeah, every time you sees a hidden 481 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.839 Mickey mickeys, oh that's a big thing. 482 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:53.920 Yeah, it sounds like a brief They hide the Mickey's. 483 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:55.720 He taught me a lot about it. 484 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.119 I've not been to Disneyland with him twice and I've 485 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.480 learned a lot, and honestly, it's I it. If you 486 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.519 were into the Disney thing, it's like it's clever stuff. 487 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.119 It's like oh, in the hat in a mansion, you 488 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:05.759 look down and there's like, oh if you noticed, like 489 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:07.880 these plates are arranged to look like, you know, one 490 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:09.720 plate and then two smaller ones for the ears and 491 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.359 so like being imagine being a kid or a forty 492 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.200 year old Mike Manati. It probably feels like magic walking 493 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:17.960 through and it's just, oh, I've got a head Mickey 494 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.720 ear and like, I get it. That would be fun. 495 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.200 You know, there's a hidden Mickey and my Lacroix right now, 496 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.000 if you know what I mean. Did you guys go 497 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:25.799 to any dive bars in Portland while you're there? 498 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.359 Dive bars? Mary? You went with the guys to a 499 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:31.200 clown bar. 500 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.839 I took the boys to Creepies, which why were you 501 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:34.359 not there? 502 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:35.200 Did you leave? By? 503 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:37.440 That was the I got up at five am to 504 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:40.680 run fourteen miles, so I did not drink the night before. 505 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:41.160 Yeah. 506 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:43.400 We always anytime we want Dan to leave, we just 507 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:47.640 do a sudoku competition and he just disappeared because he's. 508 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:48.759 A coward in Victory. 509 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:49.680 Yes, that's right. 510 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.519 We did a creepies bar and I don't know if 511 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.319 you guys talked about this, but there's just Portland's very weird. 512 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:58.279 It's known for that. And as we were going by, 513 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.799 there was just a bunch of people wearing gnome hats, 514 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.359 all gnoming it up, and Manati went right up to 515 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.200 them and was like, can I have a gnomat? And 516 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.440 they went yes, and they put a nome hat on 517 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:09.839 his head and he hung out with them for a 518 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:11.559 little bit and then went into Creepies with his little 519 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.519 gnome hat, and there's some good footage of him rocking 520 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:15.799 a gnome hat and Creepies. 521 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:17.839 I'm add thing the travelog right now and I'm not 522 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:19.519 quite to that part yet, but I've like moved the 523 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:21.240 files in. I'm like, oh, okay, it seems like some 524 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.160 stuff was going on that night, and that seems fun. 525 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:28.480 Blends right in Creepies is what it sounds like. It's 526 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:31.640 a basically like a clown focused themed bar, so there's 527 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:35.039 a shit ton of clowns all on the walls, on 528 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.640 the bar. It has a painting where the eyes, look 529 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:43.319 around and like move you know, weird shit like. 530 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.160 That choose my mind. I don't want to hang out 531 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.119 with Mike Noddy if like everything he wants to do 532 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.079 is like my nightmare. 533 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:49.559 I urged him. 534 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.680 Hanging out with Mike Manatty's a good time, Mike, like I, God, 535 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:54.480 I would like to see it. 536 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.559 I would like to watch it, like mar It it's 537 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:57.279 a good time, right. 538 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.799 I think very likes to get a He's. 539 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.559 I just like I feel like I don't want to 540 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:05.680 go to know a clown bar though. 541 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:11.279 Or he was nice when you guys were all gone, 542 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.599 he stood around. He stuck around for the day, which 543 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:16.480 he said was because he didn't want to wake up early. 544 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.680 So Manati apparently like stays up really late and doesn't 545 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:21.799 like to wake up early. You guys had to flight 546 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.720 and you had to leave at like nine in the morning. 547 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:28.200 But Manati was there literally all day. So he finished 548 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.319 the con, which I think is adorable. Like he went 549 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.079 back to the con without making content. He just went 550 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.559 to hang out with his people, just so sweet. I 551 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.440 picked him up from the hotel. I took him to 552 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:40.640 all the things that I thought he would want to 553 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.759 see on a final day, I took him to Lardo's, 554 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:47.279 which is a sandwich shop. We had a little laugh 555 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:48.559 at the fact that I could take him anywhere, and 556 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.079 I took him to Lardo's. He got a sandwich. I 557 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:55.039 took him to Voodoo Donuts and he got a donut. 558 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.720 That was he he wanted to go there. I took 559 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:01.359 him to Flanders Street has he wanted to see some 560 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.039 Simpson stuff, and I took him to a tiki bar 561 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.359 and he got his little tiki drinks. He loved it. 562 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.160 I mean, it's a it's a very nice tiki bar 563 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.759 in Portland, and I was surprised he knew a lot 564 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.319 about it. I guess he knew there. The owner is 565 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.079 also made tiki bars that he's been to. 566 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.799 It's Smuggler's Cove. I think. I think I went there 567 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:21.119 with him, and it's the world. 568 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.880 I don't understand. So I was like, great, you guys 569 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.000 know each other. But they had a nice little talk 570 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:31.960 about about tiki bars for tiki enthusiasts and yeah, and 571 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:32.720 we had a good time. 572 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.759 If he comes to New York anytime soon, we should 573 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.480 go to Sunken Harbor Club. It is my favorite tiki 574 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:38.880 bar bar in the world. 575 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:40.599 I think I'd love to go with both you guys. 576 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:41.119 That'd be funny. 577 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.000 It's a third floor like speakeasy tiki club above like 578 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:49.640 a Martinian steak restaurant, but once you get up there, 579 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.240 it's the kitchiest thing. And they have like noise makers 580 00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:56.480 doing wave sounds, so it's designed like you're in the 581 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.759 hold of a ship. And the drinks are awesome. I 582 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.200 have Garrett Henry's cock til book. He it's my favorite 583 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.200 cocktail of all time. I think I made you guys 584 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.599 at the winter in La at some point the question, Yeah, 585 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:08.079 I do. 586 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.240 Like that orange one. 587 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.960 Yeah, it's good, but sounds like a fun trip. 588 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:14.720 He had a good I think everybody had a good time. Oh, 589 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.480 we did the meet up. The meet up was so lovely. 590 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.920 We met a lot of really wonderful people and I 591 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.119 was I was glad. 592 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:22.599 To do it. 593 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:24.400 Yeah, it was. It was a blast. 594 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.759 Yeah, Mary, having you there was was such a great bonus, 595 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:28.200 and like it was gonna be fun to do the 596 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:29.640 road trip and stuff anyway, but like we have to 597 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:30.920 spend like a lot of time with you, which was 598 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:31.319 a blast. 599 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.240 Yeah, I mean it was great. You think when you 600 00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:36.880 do that much traveling and you spend that much time 601 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:38.440 with people, you'd be like, this is a lot of 602 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.279 time with these people. But I was like, this is great. 603 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.519 Even the last day when I was hungover and I 604 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.640 was at a teaki bar and I would not choose 605 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.559 to do that with my Sunday, and I was like, 606 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:49.640 this is great, Like we're having a good time. This 607 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.160 guy's really into teaky shit. I think it's because you 608 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.119 guys are so into your hobbies, Like it's just kind 609 00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:56.359 of fun listening to you guys talk, you know, like 610 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.680 jabber on about whatever crap you're interested in. 611 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.200 Okay, give a sign one a passion to each of 612 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.559 the owners of Giant Bomb a passion. Yes, if you 613 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:09.160 have to assign one, he said, we're so passionate about 614 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.079 the things in our hobbies. What's the number one defining 615 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:12.960 one for each of us? 616 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:19.640 Gaming? For all of you? Okay, you're really into running 617 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.160 right now, and you like you're so into it that 618 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.400 you were like, I have to go to bed early 619 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:25.640 and I can't drink because I'm running. I'm running fifteen 620 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.000 miles so it's a long way. Blah blah blah blah. 621 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.799 Like you're very into it right now and you're really 622 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.440 into like all the different things that you need to 623 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.279 do in order to be a very good runner. You're 624 00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.759 not half assed running, You're like fully committed to running. 625 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:44.079 It's crazy. What else? Uh, He's always talking about his 626 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.559 key kids, and we did we bought, we bought a 627 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.680 little uh, we bought a little gift for each of 628 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.119 his kids so they wouldn't fight over them, not that 629 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.359 they would fight, and they and it was really cute 630 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.440 to watch how passionate he was about making sure that 631 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.640 his kids get something a little extra from each con 632 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.839 that he goes to. And so we made little phone 633 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.400 designed chochkes for his kids and that was so cute. 634 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.640 He's very into it. It's also comes up a lot 635 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.599 when he's like, these are the reasons that I have 636 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:14.440 to like, uh, you know, be on on target and 637 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:15.880 like get all my shit done. I got kids. I 638 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:17.200 got to make sure I'm taking care of them. I 639 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.640 love that for him. Manati was again the Tiki thing 640 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:22.359 was shocking to me. 641 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:23.640 He's number one. 642 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.920 That's I mean, look, we're saying number one for each 643 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.359 one Disney number one. There we go, there, we're outside 644 00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:29.160 of gaming Disney. 645 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.559 He's a freak, yes, and Chuck's fairly. 646 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.680 Normal Chuck's got a lot of passions. He knows a 647 00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:37.000 lot about a lot of things. 648 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:39.720 Give me the freakiest thing about Chuck. 649 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.759 Oh, dear god. 650 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.960 He knows like all the like programming stuff, and he's 651 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.200 like a hacker website kind of guy. 652 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:48.920 He loves it. 653 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.759 He like travels with a fancy like little it looks 654 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:53.960 like a pencil sharpener, but it like grinds up coffee 655 00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:59.480 nuggets or whatever. What else he he knows tiki bars 656 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.559 and stuff. He'll like drive across the country to pick 657 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.920 up a juke box. He uh, He's just one of 658 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:06.640 those guys that dives super deep in everything. 659 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:07.279 He dives into. 660 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.920 You know, Dave Clap, I could see that, yes, yes, yes, 661 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.480 somewhere in front of ours. Okay, and then Bonus Jan 662 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:15.839 and Backlar they weren't on the. 663 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.799 Trip, but they weren't on the trip, you know them. 664 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:21.400 I feel like I could do Backlars. 665 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:28.519 Backlar has a boat, and he's a big boat man, 666 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.519 and he likes to drive his boat, uh and and 667 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.200 do speedy boat stuff. I think boats are a huge hobby. 668 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:36.240 I know that about him. 669 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:37.960 I don't think I knew that. 670 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:38.519 I don't. 671 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.039 I didn't know he had a boat either, I just 672 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:41.640 own pinball. 673 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:43.519 Yeah, I was gonna say pinball. 674 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:45.400 He strikes me as a boat guy. I could see 675 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:46.480 backlar being a boat guy. 676 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:49.079 I feel like I know them better than you do. 677 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.599 I want to try to hide it from us because 678 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:53.680 he thought we would make fun of him. 679 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:55.359 This is awesome. 680 00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.599 What if he what if what if he rented it 681 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:00.000 one time? 682 00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:02.559 He told you he had a boat. 683 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:04.400 I just know that he boated once. 684 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.000 Wait wait wait wait wait wait being on a boat. 685 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.240 We've all been on boats. This is a key being 686 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:12.039 a boat guy. 687 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.640 We've all been on I almost just texted him do 688 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.480 you have a boat? And if he said no, why 689 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.079 I would have been like, oh, Mary told me you 690 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:20.759 own a boat, And he's like, no, I just went 691 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:21.440 on a boat one. 692 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.319 Well, let's just start a thing. 693 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.400 Now, let's just start a thing where we all just actually, 694 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.200 he has a yacht and he's very particular about it, 695 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.160 and everyone could just repeat that like it's fact. 696 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.400 Yeah, you're a boat guy, right, Mike, Mike, you texted 697 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.599 him do you have a boat? Right? Uh? Yeah? Should 698 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.119 it be verbad him? Should we do the same thing? 699 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.000 No, I just said do you have a boat. You 700 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:41.680 should say like we. 701 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:42.559 Say how's your boat? 702 00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:50.240 No, be like like tight sails and smooth and easterly 703 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:51.559 winds and tight sails. 704 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:52.440 Tomorrow, Bud. 705 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.680 He's like, I'm just gonna say how's your boat? 706 00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.359 How's your boat? And Mary? 707 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:00.000 You texted him? 708 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:01.519 You text them and be like. 709 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.640 Already he's already messaging me. 710 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.119 Oh good, okay, now I'm message. Really that was quick 711 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:07.720 as ship. 712 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.799 He sent me your text? What the fuck is going on? 713 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.799 Wait? You Mike's text? 714 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.559 Why did he send it to you and not Dan? 715 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.039 He says we're best friends these guys. 716 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:23.480 Yeah, I want to get Vinnie to text and be like, 717 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.920 oh sorry, So well there's there's what's the saying? There's 718 00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.000 the two best days of your life or the day 719 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:31.279 you buy a boat and the day you sell it? 720 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:35.200 No, sure sure, backl knows yeah he'll never sell that. Yeah. 721 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:36.240 What's the name is Mike? 722 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.720 The the Super Mario time? 723 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:49.359 Like oh yeah back super Mario time, yeah. 724 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:55.880 Like maritime Yeah, it's super Yeah, it's a triple meeting. 725 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.720 It's it's how he pronounces it. 726 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.559 Those Long Island boys, Jersey boys from I know where 727 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:02.000 he lives. 728 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.079 He does say Mario instead of Mario. Yeah. 729 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.400 I knew that but I he didn't respond. He just 730 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.720 he's message Mary trying I guess fight his battles for him. 731 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.920 Yeah, I didn't get anything either. He only texted Mary. 732 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.119 And is she the one that didn't text him about 733 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:18.480 the boat. 734 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.680 We're just laughing me and Jeff about this thing that 735 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.079 happened on his boat the other day. 736 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:26.119 Oh huh, barnacles and turpentine. 737 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.680 He's a real This is a real boat tripped. 738 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:32.519 Over his yacht scarf. 739 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.480 Little little d got stuck in the bilge pump again. 740 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:38.880 I like this. 741 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.319 That I can't imagine him on a boat, But if 742 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.000 he has one, I'm gonna be pissed that he didn't 743 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.720 invite me on it. 744 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.039 You guys aren't close as we are. 745 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.759 It's entirely possible. 746 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:53.359 I feel like. 747 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.400 Backlart's easier to name the things he doesn't like than 748 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.920 things he's passionate about. I got pinball, certainly hockey. Pinball 749 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.440 and hockey are one two for him, I think. And 750 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.079 then yeah, then there's a keyboards, keyboards. He's got passions. 751 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.680 He's got some some out there ones. 752 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.000 We've all got passions, varying degrees, Tiki, Mike not. He 753 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.160 mightn't like my pen holder. I scored in a well 754 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:18.720 Fleet Massachusetts, a diving helmet with a little penholder. I 755 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:23.799 feel like it's got tiki vibes. Yeah, we we we 756 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.759 design our beach house with Tiki. Now I don't have 757 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:27.680 a beach house and just trying to channel my back 758 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:27.960 a lot. 759 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.680 Oh sure, sure, yeah, makes sense. 760 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.960 All my boats are decorated with Tiki's Yeah is uh. 761 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.440 He takes his boat to his lake house every single weekend, 762 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.960 and then the lake house has a helipad from which 763 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.960 he flies to his ocean shorehouse. 764 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:46.960 Right, he's frowning the whole time he's on it. 765 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.519 Yeah, all right, anyway, you want to talk about video games? Sure, yes, 766 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.920 all right, before we dive into games we've been playing, 767 00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:57.960 we've got to back on our updates since the break. 768 00:33:58.359 --> 00:33:59.880 We do and I don't know what to make of 769 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.279 the okay, So I said, how's your boat? And Backler 770 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.640 says doct I'm assuming and Mike you texted him and what. 771 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:08.400 Do you get? 772 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:12.760 I said, do you have a boat? And then he said, uh, yes, 773 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.679 I have two, And then I said I only have 774 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:17.840 the one. Let's race them. And then he says, you 775 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.760 don't want any of my boat? And it's a boat 776 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.360 with three outboard motors. 777 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.119 Mean okay? And then Mary, did you have an exchange? Yeah, 778 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:28.159 he texted you. 779 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.639 Hi, best friend, and I said, hey, bestie, the boys 780 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:33.679 don't believe me about your boats. And he was like, 781 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.840 oh my god, I have so many, so so, so, 782 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.000 so so many, and we are laughing about you guys 783 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:41.480 right now. 784 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:44.519 I don't know what to make of any of this. 785 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.320 Didn't one of you say during the break that he 786 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.840 said the name of his boat, I didn't. 787 00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:50.679 Yeah, what is it? Mary? 788 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:57.320 The name of his boat that I know very well 789 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:00.760 is the s Shade Chaser. 790 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:08.199 Okay, Now, either you're bullshitting and Backlar's playing along, or 791 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.960 Backlar told you about his boat to the level that 792 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.760 you now think he's a boat enthusiast and he's hiding 793 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.719 it from the rest of us because he thinks we'll 794 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.079 give him shit, I. 795 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.079 Know, into his house. And he didn't have a boat 796 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:28.280 like there on a trailer. Okay, Hey, you absolutely keep 797 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.760 boats on a trailer. If it's a pontoon boat or something, 798 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.159 you can bring my like three of my fucking. 799 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000 It has three engines, Mike, you don't know boats. 800 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:36.559 He told me. 801 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.079 He assumes it's docked, so it might be docked. If 802 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:40.719 he has a secret boat, he might have a secret 803 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:41.280 boat house. 804 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.960 He has so many boats he has to keep them 805 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.159 in some kind of boat dock situation. 806 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.440 I don't know what to think about this. That was 807 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.320 your first answer about Backler. Everyone else you give the straight, 808 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.079 real answer, and you said Backlar is a huge boat guy. 809 00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.039 And I can see it. I can see it. I 810 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:00.639 also see it himating it from us. 811 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.840 You subscribe to Giant Bomb. It's all going to the 812 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:03.880 boat fuel. 813 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:06.639 Into boat fuel. 814 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.079 And wax and pumps. Uh, the. 815 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.960 Ones that look like a banana and. 816 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.159 Parrots aren't cheap parrots for his shoulder and and a 817 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:27.599 plank and uh. And he drinks and and treasure chests 818 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:33.840 mm hmmm. And and rapeeers and and sabers and cutlasses 819 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.320 and birds mess. 820 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.760 Okay, now this is getting further from something I can 821 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.719 picture Backal are doing. He's not really swashbuckling. 822 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.800 I don't think he is. 823 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:43.559 He a pirate. 824 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.199 I don't think he's a pirate. 825 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.840 Who would fit in on a pirate ship. The most 826 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:54.719 grub would yes, visually yes, yeah, and also just the 827 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.400 whole deal. I think he would do fine on a. 828 00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.880 Pirate Chip, what the whole what about him? I think 829 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.800 you can just adjust the situations. I mean he helped 830 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.639 me when we were confronted with a lady on a 831 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:07.360 lot of drugs. 832 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.239 He thought I stole her stuff. 833 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.320 And I think he grub handles himself well in a 834 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:14.320 lot of situations. 835 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.639 Oh cool, Yeah, I think it'd be a good he'd 836 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.159 be a good pirate. I think, yeah. Yeah. 837 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.440 Pirates are known to be really level headed and to 838 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.079 never get upset. 839 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.199 They're cool characters, aren't They always drunk and happy and 840 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:26.079 singing shanties. 841 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:31.039 They're also like pillaging and raping and really, I. 842 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.440 I really, I don't think I've understood pirates this whole time. 843 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:36.639 They've been romanticized. 844 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.079 Okay, okay, I just haven't taken in a lot of 845 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.719 pirate media. 846 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.599 Love the vision of pirates. They seem like they have 847 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.440 such a good time, speaking. 848 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.760 Of taking something old and making it new. Mary, you 849 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:57.000 and I played Halo campaign. They've all, uh, did you? So? 850 00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:58.880 Where are you? Did you play the whole thing or 851 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:00.880 did you just try it out and jump out? 852 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.639 I I don't think I could have played the whole 853 00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.599 thing yet. I just started. I would like to. I 854 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.239 would like to complain and that I would like to 855 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:10.119 tell you that I like it. 856 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.360 Can I hear that you need to have one opinion? 857 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.440 I am upset? 858 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.360 Are you a referee? Now let it pass you. 859 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.639 Most people when they play Halo would like to play 860 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:29.760 it with another person co op split screen, and it 861 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.639 is available for consoles in PC. I got a steam code, 862 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.280 I set it up on the computer. I got excited, 863 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.000 I got snacks, I got drinks. I set it up, 864 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.480 I turned it on. The PC version does not have 865 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.079 split screen. 866 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.800 That's so stupid, but console does? 867 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:47.280 Yes? 868 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.679 Does that have four that that's so dumb that PC 869 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.639 wouldn't have us so dumb. 870 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.039 You can play co op, but you need to do 871 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:57.920 it online from like another PC, So we had to 872 00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:02.159 buy another cop be, which like really pissed me off 873 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.079 because I would have I would have gotten it on 874 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.280 console to save that experience, but I didn't know. And 875 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.119 then we had already you know, like I had already 876 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.920 set it up, like I had already like gone through 877 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.360 all the motions, so we just played it. 878 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.280 There's a this is sort of like kissing it, but no. 879 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:24.599 As a PC gamer published a story seven hours ago, 880 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.880 Apparently a mod was published that makes split screen on 881 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:31.079 Steam Super eas it's not it seven hours ago. 882 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.320 I want to sure, I played it over the weekend. 883 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.440 It's not what they intended, and it is like a 884 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:37.679 bootleg version of it. 885 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.880 YEA, sure, it's annoying Halo Studios didn't include it. For sure. 886 00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:45.519 It's fucking annoying that a game that is notorious for 887 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.119 playing split screen has a PC version that doesn't allow 888 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.440 split screen, but the other two versions do. I find 889 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.840 that so confusing as a consumer. That bothered me deeply. 890 00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.280 And I also think it's dumb, Like I think it's 891 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.760 a there's no reason, there's no just le reason that 892 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.119 if you're gonna have a split screen on all the 893 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:04.360 other versions, that PC is the one where they're like, well, 894 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.360 we need it to connect it to a Microsoft account 895 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.800 and only one stream username per Microsoft account, so we 896 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.880 can't do it. It obviously is like some fan dangled rule 897 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.840 that forced their hand, And I think it's dumb and 898 00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.440 that makes me really mad. That being said, it's really 899 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:21.440 fun to play Halo again. 900 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.880 Yeah, Halo Imax got its claws in the Halo system. 901 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.239 Yeah, well it's a stupid rule. 902 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.679 The Microsoft account thing is a pain in the ass 903 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:31.840 because it's like I got it on PlayStation because that's 904 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:33.440 what Kayla gets everything on. I'm gonna play a co 905 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.039 op with her, and like you. 906 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.800 Didn't get on Steam because you fucking kept you know 907 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.920 what I mean, because you can't fucking play it. 908 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.000 I had my own frustration where I didn't get to 909 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.159 play it yesterday because I got it, and uh, Kayla's 910 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.800 gonna wait till she can buy it physically, and so 911 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:48.840 I was like, we were going to stream it. Yeah, 912 00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.119 we're gonna stream it last night, and she said, oh, 913 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.519 I'm gonna hold off. It's not I she would have 914 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.679 had to buy the premium digital edition or whatever. So 915 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.199 we delayed it basically, and so I already had it installed. 916 00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.239 I did my stupid Microsoft account thing and I was like, 917 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.199 all right, well, I guess I'll just jump into multiplayer. 918 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.239 Halo multiplayer it's classic. Let's do it. 919 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.119 I'm just gonna get into some blood Guld and capsure 920 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:07.639 the Flag. It's going to be great. I go to 921 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:14.239 the main menu and I'm like, Campaign Evolved. I see, okay, 922 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.760 so there's no multiplayer. It turns out. 923 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.039 Yeah, okay, wait, I do have a question for you, Mary. 924 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.159 Is the split screen not in the game Pass version 925 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.840 on Xbox or did you do you not know? 926 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:30.320 Yeah? 927 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.000 You can just crossplay it. Yeah, do you have game passay? 928 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:36.280 You don't have game Pass? 929 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:36.599 All right? 930 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:36.880 All right? 931 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.840 No kisching, no kissing, detect, didn't can't cash. 932 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.239 It, no kishing. I've lapsed on my game pass, so 933 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.400 there wasn't There's not like really a strong reason to 934 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.599 have it for me right now. So no. Also, I 935 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.599 believe so when Steam you have to connect it to 936 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.960 a Microsoft account, right, I think that would be the 937 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:55.880 same account. 938 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.159 Oh did detect that you're already using or like ones? 939 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:00.719 I'm like, I don't know. 940 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.039 I've don't know in the past if you I was saying, 941 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:05.840 if you had game Pass, why didn't you just play 942 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.239 split screen on your Xbox? But if you don't have, right, 943 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.159 I see what you're saying. Yeah, because I'm I'm playing 944 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.960 it on I have not re upped game passed. Mine 945 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.920 just hasn't run out for another few months, so I'm 946 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.639 just playing it on Xbox through game Pass. But I 947 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.599 wasn't playing split screen, so I was curious if it 948 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.280 somehow wasn't in that version. 949 00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.440 But it seems like a pain in the ass. But 950 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.199 I'm guessing it is still super fucking fun to play. 951 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:32.880 I'm I'm very excited fun. 952 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:38.639 It's still a joy, uh you you know, playing it 953 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.880 relives a lot of the feelings of yesteryear. It's nice 954 00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.280 to like get back into the wart Hog and it 955 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.039 still kind of controls the way you'd like it to. 956 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.719 It looks great, looks fucking great. They must have redid 957 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.400 all the art, I guess because it's crazy it's. 958 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:57.960 The Unreal five or whatever engine. 959 00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.480 You did not give the face of some one who 960 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.719 feels like it looks great. 961 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.880 Uh no, no, no, no, I think it looks good. There 962 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:06.679 is a weird thing and I'm trying to remember what 963 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.320 what other game I noticed this in where there's just 964 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.039 this weird like blurring effect where I feel like they're 965 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.280 trying to replicate the way your eyes work, like with 966 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:16.440 motion blurring. 967 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.280 Let me, I want I'm curious, is that Boca? 968 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.599 I don't know. I always see that, like the game 969 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:27.000 looks good, but for there's something that seems I don't 970 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.639 think uncanny is the word, but there's just a little 971 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.159 bit of like a weird sheen over things that kind 972 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:34.880 of like sterilizes it too much. 973 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:36.039 But but I don't. 974 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.679 It's not like I hate looking at the game by 975 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.920 any means, and I'm having a blast. Like. It's also 976 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:42.599 the they added like a couple hours worth of prolog 977 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:44.480 missions before the Pillar of Autumn. 978 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.039 I wonder, like, would you recommend like playing those, like 979 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.800 if Kayla's never played a Halo game, like, because that's 980 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.199 the thing is like Pillar Bottom is like one of 981 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.159 those all timer first levels, so like, would it be 982 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.519 better for her to have that be her first experience 983 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.760 or should we do so? Maybe just beat the game 984 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.159 and they have a bonus at the. 985 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:03.159 The prolog missions are especially cool if you've played Reach 986 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:05.199 and want to see stuff that happens between that and 987 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.440 interesting Common Evolved. But Pillar of Autumn is still like 988 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.880 the intro, It's like, wake up Chief, you do the analog, 989 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.760 here's how you look, and then the Covenant assaults the ship. 990 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.079 That second mission is still one of my favorite treeter 991 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:19.159 missions of any game ever just called Halo. 992 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:20.320 I think, yeah, that's a great one. 993 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.840 Yeah, but yeah, they've also retroactively added some stuff. You 994 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.920 can sprint now, which I like in general, but you 995 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.159 can also I think I was reading Michael Hyam's review 996 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.840 on IGN and he was saying something that I was 997 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:36.559 kind of grappling with in that there are a few 998 00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.000 spots where I think I just didn't want to keep 999 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:45.239 doing that litany of room after room in assault on 1000 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.360 the control room and then the library with the flood. 1001 00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.559 That mission is still not great. The three four three 1002 00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.559 Guilty Spark mission where you're you're you drop into the 1003 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.079 jungle and it's basically alien and your aliens. 1004 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.519 No, not what movie am I thinking? An alien? 1005 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.360 You find the footage of what's like happened and the aliens? 1006 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:10.480 The the main plot is that there's aliens there, There's 1007 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:12.679 something there. What's the name of that film? 1008 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:16.039 It could be anything, really, it'll come to me Bill. 1009 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:22.679 Bill Paxton was in it. Twister, Oh, No, Independence Day, 1010 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.039 that was damn it. 1011 00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.159 There are parts you could just kind of sprint right 1012 00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.320 through and no one's making no one's saying you have to. 1013 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.639 But there are missions in that game that have not 1014 00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:36.599 aged particularly well, but they stayed faithful to it. They 1015 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:43.199 also added some weapons. They added the Needler rifle, They 1016 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.360 added the you can now use the fuel rod cannon. 1017 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.239 I forgot you couldn't use that in the first game. 1018 00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:50.079 To the campaign, they've added weapons. 1019 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.679 Yeah, that they added later in the series that you 1020 00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.239 could not use the Energy Sword. You fought at least 1021 00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.239 with Energy swords who were using Energy swords, but they didn't, Yeah, 1022 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.920 introduced the sword to Halo two. So that's cool. Like 1023 00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:05.760 I appreciate having those toys back in the first campaign, 1024 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.239 but it still feels great, Like it's still a very 1025 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.239 well paced campaign overall, like that story is. It's ultimately 1026 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.840 a simple story, but it's effective. It's like the air 1027 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.679 of mystery around that first game as opposed to, Oh, 1028 00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:21.519 they're attacking Earth, it's all out defense, and like Survival 1029 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.679 in two and three is like you get into the 1030 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:27.360 supernatural elements with the flood and Grave Mind and then 1031 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.440 four or five Infinite they kind of go all their 1032 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.079 own directions, but one was still such a like it 1033 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.920 reminds me of Alien in the sense that looking back 1034 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.599 at the first the thing that started it all, it's 1035 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:46.559 so much more focused and like localized and mysterious before 1036 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.079 it got all out warfare. Like there's nothing wrong with Aliens. 1037 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.639 That's an incredible movie in its own right. But it's 1038 00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.000 nice to go back and replay this because I love 1039 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.280 replaying these games. Yeah, I'm having a blast. 1040 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.599 I've really been looking forward to this ever since Kayla 1041 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.320 and I went through all the Gears games, because since 1042 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.920 she was such a like hardcore PlayStation fan and we 1043 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.519 never had PC, so she was just like all Nintendo 1044 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.239 in PlayStation. Basically, this is a huge blind spot for her, 1045 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.360 and Gears was such a blast to go through, so 1046 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.360 I almost wonderful I'll go through too, and Beyond master 1047 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.519 Chief Collection is not on PS five, is it. 1048 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:19.599 No? 1049 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:20.280 I don't think so. 1050 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.519 Yeah, I see if she'll turn on an Xbox for that, 1051 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.159 But yeah, it's like, I don't know. 1052 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.199 It seems like every headline you see about Xbox is 1053 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.280 just like it sounds like a company on fire all 1054 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.519 the time, and so it's like this year it's just like, Okay, 1055 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.880 well there's a Halo that'll be fun. I'm looking forward 1056 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.199 to the new Gears and then that I don't know, 1057 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.039 maybe just all goes to shit and maybe this is 1058 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.320 the last hurrah with like the two like most iconic 1059 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:40.719 franchises of the brand, you know. 1060 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.320 But yeah, yeah, I don't know, like even going back 1061 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.840 to Halo Infinite. They want to your point Mary about 1062 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.559 this the split screen on the Steam version being annoying. 1063 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.320 They launched Halo Infinite without co op, right, and then 1064 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.480 they never ever got around to adding it didn't. If 1065 00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.159 memory serves, I need this insane. We should confirm that, 1066 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.199 but to not launch with that, and to Mary's point, 1067 00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:07.239 a franchise that was basically like built on co op 1068 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:11.440 even before Halo two came around and online the Sparks 1069 00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.119 Xbox Live. Sorry they did it. 1070 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.039 It does have online co op, it does not have 1071 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.000 local split screen. I think I remember this because I 1072 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.000 love the idea of the open world, and like Bonk 1073 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.119 and I both got it when it came out, and 1074 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.880 it's like, oh shit, we would like we want to 1075 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.599 plan a good amount of multiplayer together, but. 1076 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.280 It's like it's so stupid. 1077 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:26.880 We can't, Like, it'd be so fun to explore this 1078 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:28.320 open world together in a Halo game. 1079 00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.960 I didn't even think they launched with the online co 1080 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:32.719 op though, but they added. 1081 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.159 No, no, no online multi We did online multiplayer right. 1082 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.440 Right right, saying but they now have online co op, yes, 1083 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.119 but no split screen. I thought they launched even without 1084 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.440 online co op, which was baffling to me. 1085 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.639 They did launch with that on That's what I'm saying. 1086 00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.920 They had online death match multiple. 1087 00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:51.760 Correct, right, right right, okay, yea, I was okay, I 1088 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.599 was correct in that regard, which is just crazy to me, 1089 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.880 Like it's. 1090 00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.119 The game, yeah, and they launched it without it. 1091 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:03.920 Yeah, it's so annoying to me that they like they 1092 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.360 could just go back to basics with whatever the next 1093 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.079 Halo game would be and kill it and just like 1094 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:12.639 local split screen. We were talking about joking about going 1095 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.360 back to four to three ratio, like go back to 1096 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.039 what people loved about these shooters in two thousand and one. 1097 00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.800 That yeah, I mean, Splitzkerm was such a huge part 1098 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.639 of it. I remember when Halo one came out. I 1099 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.000 distinctly remember, like because I didn't have an Xbox and 1100 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.639 so whenever I couldn't afford the other console, like oh 1101 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:29.920 I got the PlayStation, now I might. You know, there 1102 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.440 was a time where it's like I understand to an 1103 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.760 extent console fanboyism, to the extent of like, ooh, I 1104 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.280 want my horse to win because this is the one 1105 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.480 I invested my money into. I was never the like, 1106 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:42.719 yeah that said, I was never the one riding into 1107 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.599 magazines and being like fuck, you know, like it wasn't that, 1108 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:47.760 but I just wanted, you know, you picked your horse basically. 1109 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.719 And so when Halo came out and everyone was talking 1110 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.639 about it and I was working at funk Land, I 1111 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.519 was like, fuck Halo. I was so anti Halo for 1112 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:57.559 so long. Whenever my friends in high school we talking about, like, 1113 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.119 Halo fucking sucks. And then I'd play at funkal Land, 1114 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:03.519 like we'd have a down day or whatever. It's like, Okay, 1115 00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.000 me and my buddy Quot would over and play split 1116 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.199 screen on the CRT, and I would like begrudgingly be 1117 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.599 having fun. I'd be like, god, damn it, this is fun. 1118 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:12.280 I hate that. I hate that this is fun. Now 1119 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:13.480 I want this time. I want to buy this. 1120 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:14.880 Goddamn it, it's fun. 1121 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.199 It turns out it's really fun. 1122 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:17.320 Yeah, yeah, there's. 1123 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.559 Still really well fun. Do you know what order you're 1124 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.480 playing them in with Kayla? 1125 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:26.559 I mean one like this one rather I guess more specific. Okay, 1126 00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.320 so you're doing Campaign Evolved. 1127 00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:29.760 If we moved on, which we would have to figure 1128 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.800 something out because she's got an Xbox, but I doubt 1129 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.480 she's turned it on in two years. Yeah, I just 1130 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:40.519 in order two three uh two three Reach, I wonder. 1131 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.239 I mean, we did like Judgment and stuff. We did 1132 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.519 the lesser Gears is when we were doing that. So 1133 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:47.119 if we're having a lot of fun with it, and 1134 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:48.880 I could see us moving on, but we're just planning 1135 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.639 on doing this for now. 1136 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:50.159 Yeah. 1137 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:51.559 I just didn't know if there's like a quote unquote 1138 00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.079 machete cut of Halo games equal like Star Wars. 1139 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.039 We'll see too, though, because she doesn't like spacey games. 1140 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.679 So that's why it's like she loves dragon Age but 1141 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.480 doesn't like Mass Effect. You know, she likes, you know, fantasy. 1142 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:05.280 She doesn't like any kind of like set and space stuff. 1143 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:06.480 So I don't know. 1144 00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.800 Gears was like, I guess Gears isn't space because it's 1145 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.719 like Guns and it's not like in the Stars. 1146 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:14.039 I don't know. 1147 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.639 I don't really understand how she decides what spacing and 1148 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:18.639 what's not because Gears wasn't on Earth. That was like 1149 00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:20.920 a solar system way far away. 1150 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.440 It was Sora or something, right, Sarah, it was like 1151 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:26.519 a stand in for Earth. 1152 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.239 Looking, wasn't this be real? 1153 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.079 Wasn't it the twists of Gears War two that the 1154 00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:38.320 locusts were escaping something underground, not attacking humans. 1155 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.599 No, the Statue of Liberty is buried in the sand 1156 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.000 and then Mark Marcus drops to his knees. 1157 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:44.559 Yeah, you killed. 1158 00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:52.159 Speaking of other shooters with a campaign, as I understand 1159 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.599 it is that Splatoon Raiders basically it's single player adventure. 1160 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.159 Now, man, it's weird. 1161 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.119 Yeah, I didn't know because I didn't really follow any 1162 00:51:58.119 --> 00:51:59.320 of the pre release stuff, and so I was like, 1163 00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:01.719 I didn't know if this was like a Destiny like thing. 1164 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.559 I think I thought it was a rogue light. It's 1165 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.159 kind of none of that. It's pretty straightforward. I mean, 1166 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:08.920 it is like you can play co op. I did 1167 00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:10.679 a little with Manani for the quick look on Giant 1168 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.840 Bomb you can check out on YouTube. But yeah, solo, 1169 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.320 it's just like you got like a home base. You 1170 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.320 kind of build that out you can tinker with, you know, 1171 00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.039 you get your different relics and things like that, like 1172 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.360 passive benefits and stuff. You can tinker with your different 1173 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.679 splat guns and things that you've seen in the standard 1174 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.320 just split do in games, so you know, the brushes, 1175 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.719 the more kind of shotgun types, the dual wheel type things. 1176 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.880 You can do a lot of customization with that stuff 1177 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:34.239 back at your home base and then you look at 1178 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.760 a map and you move on to like a treasure 1179 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.039 chest on the map and it drops you into an 1180 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:40.960 area where you might have to go through two or 1181 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.760 three levels of just enemies that spawn in and sometimes 1182 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.000 there's a mini box you have to beat in a 1183 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.159 certain amount of time. 1184 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:49.039 It's very straightforward. 1185 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:50.920 I mean there's different like packs and stuffing put on 1186 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.880 works like this one is more of a defensive minded, 1187 00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.239 turret based build. This one is more of a like 1188 00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:58.760 getting in close, like it's not a shotgun, but the 1189 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.920 splat equivalent of a shot, like that type of damage. 1190 00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:05.719 It's it's still uses the same mobility stuff of like 1191 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.639 you're you're swimming through the ink as a squid, and 1192 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.800 there's some stuff going from island to island where you're 1193 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.639 kind of like surfing and some light platforming. I would say, 1194 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.840 but it's yeah, it's just kind of a single player 1195 00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.239 that can be played co op. It doesn't change the 1196 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.519 game when you play co op, but just going from 1197 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.760 combat like skirmish to skirmish, it's fun. 1198 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:26.760 I'm enjoying it. 1199 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.360 I played a few hours of it and really have 1200 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.480 not felt the drive to go back. And it's not like, 1201 00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:33.800 you know, if I was really into it, I would 1202 00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:35.760 have taken my switch on the trip and I didn't. 1203 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.239 I took the Steam deck. It's just it's something I 1204 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:45.039 have to like action third person shooter action co op. 1205 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:52.119 You can co op, yes, okay, co op. Yeah, the 1206 00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.000 co op is just like, okay, now you're just playing 1207 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:55.599 with someone else, which is fun. It's fun to play 1208 00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:57.440 games with your friends. But it's not like it's a, oh, 1209 00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.239 you have to play this co op type thing. It's 1210 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.519 a yeah, I'm not going to. It's not as deep 1211 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.239 as something like a Destiny or anything like that. It's 1212 00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:05.719 way more simple. You are leveling up, you are powering 1213 00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.159 up your guns, and you're getting like, oh, I found 1214 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.079 a level seven this type of gun. I got this 1215 00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:13.760 new relic that'll give me, you know, ten percent ink 1216 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.599 regeneration or damage reduction. 1217 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:18.400 It's it's a weird one. 1218 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.920 I'm enjoyed when I'm playing it, but it's something that 1219 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.039 I have to keep remembering that like, oh, right, I 1220 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:24.760 should go back to that. 1221 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.840 Oh I saw like, yeah clips of it. It looked fun, 1222 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:33.599 especially as someone who at a distance, I was kind 1223 00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.119 of into this Platoon universe or like rather art direction 1224 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:37.719 in the vibes of it all. But I never played 1225 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:39.719 any of them because I don't I don't know. I 1226 00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.440 don't necessarily like purely competitive shooters anymore. 1227 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.280 Yeah, same, aside from. 1228 00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.639 Like Battlefield, but that's not like in Call of Duty, 1229 00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.440 but those are fairly I just didn't want to go 1230 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:51.920 out of my way to play a platoon, so I 1231 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.800 was kind of interested in it. But it sounds straightforward 1232 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.079 to the point of almost feeling bare bones. 1233 00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:59.719 Yeah, yeah, I mean it. 1234 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.320 It is nice to like the ease of being able 1235 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.480 to like, oh, if I just want to pick it 1236 00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:05.679 up and play like two levels or whatever, I'm in 1237 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:07.719 and out in like, you know, fifteen twenty minutes. It's 1238 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.880 kind of it's very bite sized, you know, these combat encounters. 1239 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.719 It's just the depth. If you're looking for something with 1240 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.639 a little more depth, I don't think this is it. 1241 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.800 Okay, Mary, you what? Okay? 1242 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.079 Did you both? No? 1243 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:26.119 Never mind, we actually held this episode because the big 1244 00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:27.039 Walk embargo. 1245 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.320 It's just just a few hours, so yeah, might be 1246 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:29.639 hearing this. 1247 00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:31.599 Mary, did you also play this? 1248 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.800 I played this early as a demo, but I did 1249 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.159 play the final version of the game. They just probably 1250 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.480 added more to it since you know what I mean, 1251 00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.800 like you're playing I wonder if my Okay, I think 1252 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.400 we played the same thing, but you can keep going 1253 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.480 and I they made me stop. So I'm very curious 1254 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.599 what your experience was with you played it with I 1255 00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:56.159 played it with three other people. 1256 00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.840 I've played with four others. Yeah, we recorded the video 1257 00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:02.400 today couple hours and it's an it's great, Mary, I 1258 00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:04.800 assume you probably did. Like when you start, it's almost 1259 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:06.840 like a great plateau from Breath the Wild, where it's 1260 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.440 like you kind of need to do these four things 1261 00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:11.519 to kind of move on into the bigger open world. 1262 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:15.760 And yeah, you're just these like little duck dudes like Mike. 1263 00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:17.840 I was about to make a Simpsons reference, but Marry, 1264 00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:19.760 you know, is the thing when Homer was big Dance. 1265 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.000 Okay, they look like an. 1266 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.320 Ant sive with like a big weird round beaks and stuff. 1267 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:25.679 And it's a prox chat game. The prox chat is 1268 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.519 way more important than other like friends, like I actually 1269 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.559 even don't like calling this game a friends lib game 1270 00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:33.199 because it just seems like there's more going on here. 1271 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:36.159 It's less gimmick, more real game. But it does have 1272 00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.840 some of those hallmarks of like you're these goofy looking characters. 1273 00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.119 You know, your a little horn, your little beecorns move 1274 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.599 when you talk. There definitely is a lot of humor here, 1275 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.320 but like it is a puzzle game. It is a 1276 00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.480 co op puzzle game for sure. Like it's cool, like 1277 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.079 you'll just there's no real direction, You're just on this 1278 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.000 island and you'll find like these things where it's like, Okay, 1279 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.119 clearly I need to put this like almost like egg 1280 00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.920 shaped thing into this to move forward or to accomplish something. 1281 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.559 So okay, I see one, but it's locked up in 1282 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:05.199 this box here in this kind of like building thing 1283 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.480 out in the middle of a field, and there's a 1284 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.159 room I can go into, and if I press this 1285 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.440 button it steals me off, and it's soundproof, and so 1286 00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.000 it's like I'm going to soundproof room with a window 1287 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:16.760 and all my friends are on the outside, and there's 1288 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.280 switches out there, and I can only I can see 1289 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.159 these lights light up that indicate what order you need 1290 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.159 to press them in, and since I can't talk, the 1291 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.239 prox chat is basically cut off. All I can do 1292 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.679 is like you can raise either arm up or down, 1293 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.239 or you can point with either hand. So it's like 1294 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:32.320 I started, you know, like kind of coming up with 1295 00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:33.880 the language of like okay, but to one of the 1296 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.239 lower switches, I'm gonna sit on the ground and point. 1297 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.000 If it's one of the higher ones, I'm gonna raise 1298 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.039 one arm and point with the other. And then if 1299 00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:41.400 it's like two at the same time, I can like 1300 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.800 you know, point point and just seeing the guys out 1301 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.400 there have to talk it out, be like okay, I. 1302 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:46.920 Think he's saying this one and this one's lower. 1303 00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:49.519 Like just really really clever stuff that is utilizing like 1304 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:51.840 the prox chat and the co op nature of this game. Like, 1305 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:54.760 I do not think you can play this game single player. 1306 00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.519 There's no way, right, I've heard that all the puzzles 1307 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.519 kind of max out at like four players, so maybe 1308 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:04.400 it's the thing. I don't quote me, but it wouldn't 1309 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.239 surprise me if like or two, three or four. They 1310 00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.519 will kind of modify the puzzles so you can finish 1311 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.079 them with X number of people, and then above that 1312 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.159 you can play with up to eight, but the puzzles 1313 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.159 don't continue getting more complicated after that. 1314 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.599 Is exactly right. The way they were like visioning it 1315 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:23.880 was like this is a wholesome game. There's not anything 1316 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.400 you could have your friends, or your children, or your 1317 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:28.239 nieces and nephews, in it, so you could have like 1318 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.320 little kids join you and they can just probably like 1319 00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.920 dink donk around in the background while you actually solve 1320 00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.599 the puzzles. But they still get to play in the 1321 00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:36.920 world with you. How fun is that. So it's like 1322 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.239 you can have eight people. I think you're right that 1323 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.880 it's it might even be six, but it's like it 1324 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:48.480 it maxes out where like there's no more people needed 1325 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.440 to fill a puzzle. They won't alter the puzzle after 1326 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:50.880 that amount. 1327 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:53.440 Yeah, and it's fun too because you'll find yourself in 1328 00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.119 these circumstances where it's like at one point, our whole 1329 00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:58.519 group got to this thing and it was clear that 1330 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.519 like one or two people need to stay while the 1331 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.960 other two went up to this like tall area and 1332 00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.199 pointed a laser, and so it turned out that me 1333 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.079 and Backlar had to stay behind. So like me and 1334 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:08.880 Backlar are just kind of like hanging out by this 1335 00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:11.480 switch basically, and we just had to wait for them 1336 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.440 to run out there, and we can't hear their voice chat. 1337 00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:15.400 So it's me and Backlarre just killing time down here, 1338 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.400 and we like found like a flashlight and we're just 1339 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:19.320 kind of like playing catch with it. Back and forth 1340 00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:21.360 for a while. Like there's a lot of really emergent, 1341 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.840 fun kind of social stuff going on with this game, 1342 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:26.159 and you can't get lost like dumb shit where it's like, 1343 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:28.199 oh my god, we did this puzzle and we found 1344 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.480 a walkie talkie And this is critical now because like 1345 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.280 we can communicate from across the map because you know, 1346 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:34.960 if you don't have that, you're just shooting flares or 1347 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.000 trying to yell across the canyon. But the walkie talkie's great. 1348 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.119 But let's say you jump off a thing and you 1349 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:41.920 fall on your ass and slide down a hill and 1350 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.920 oh shit, my walkie talkie got jostled loose and it's 1351 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.880 nighttime and I don't have a light. It's like, oh 1352 00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:48.559 my god, Like I found myself having to like go 1353 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:50.960 through the woods, like where the fuck is my walkie talkie? 1354 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.440 Like a lot of really cool emergent stuff like that. 1355 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:55.800 It's awesome. 1356 00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:57.960 It's really worth it. I think it's one of these 1357 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.280 games that people will talk about, especially just because it's 1358 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.639 so universal. It'll work for a variety of different reasons. 1359 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:06.000 You can have fun with it, but it's truly for everyone. 1360 01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.800 Can probably even like parents. You could like throw them 1361 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:10.559 in there and they could probably like figure it out. 1362 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:13.079 But this is like a good puzzler for gamers who 1363 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.840 want to just spend time with each other in a world. 1364 01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.639 I think it's wholesome and lovely and I really adored 1365 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.519 this this I think I think the demo was like 1366 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.159 an hour and a half and I ate it up. 1367 01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.679 I was like, I want more. I was really stoked 1368 01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:33.000 for figuring out. Like you were saying, there was all 1369 01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.480 these different things, there was this thing we couldn't reach, 1370 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.960 and so it eventually kind of teaches you can climb 1371 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.440 on each other's shoulders. You know you can. We were 1372 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:42.440 trying to find keys to get into the world. But 1373 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.119 a lot of this is all there's no dialogue. There's 1374 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.679 no text in this entire game pretty much, so everything 1375 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:51.199 you're just talking it through with each other and seeing 1376 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.719 if your tests work out. Plus there's little toys in 1377 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:57.960 the room, like the lights. You see the lights, you're 1378 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.960 turning on the lights because there's day and night cycles 1379 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.599 and you really can get lost. One of my favorite 1380 01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.480 stories is we had the exact same thing where two 1381 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.639 of us had to leave, but for whatever reason, we 1382 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:09.880 only chose one person to leave, so there was three 1383 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.239 of us and one person left and we could see 1384 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.480 them out there and they could see us, and then 1385 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.679 they walked all the way back and said you need 1386 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:17.840 to turn the laser on. 1387 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.760 Yeah. Yeah, it wasted. 1388 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.280 Twenty minutes because we didn't know what the other person wanted. Like, 1389 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:29.039 it's just very cute, lovely storytelling without without saying anything. 1390 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:31.639 I think it's a gem. I think we should play it. 1391 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:32.320 I think it's very fun. 1392 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.719 I would love to. Yeah, yeah, and I do think 1393 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.639 it is yeah, reductive. A lot of people will say 1394 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.320 friend slop. This is something different. This is somewhere in 1395 01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.199 between like friend art. 1396 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.519 This is like actually thoughtful and like well done. 1397 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:46.719 Yeah, this is it feels more like a co op 1398 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.400 like the Witness. I don't know if it is the 1399 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:49.880 right example. Well you know what I mean, like solving 1400 01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.239 puzzles as a group and just using your communication as 1401 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:53.960 your tools. 1402 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:54.960 It's fantastic. 1403 01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.280 They look like three dimensional mister Gaman watches. 1404 01:01:58.760 --> 01:01:59.320 I could see that. 1405 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:04.519 Yeah, yeah, there are silly little things the way they look, 1406 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:06.760 and you can change the color of them, which was 1407 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.639 like another thing that we ran into, like you could 1408 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.920 like paint yourself and stuff like that. Lots of creativity 1409 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:12.960 in this little space to play around with. 1410 01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.679 Mary what is lost in found Co? 1411 01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:19.960 Okay, so I have some little ones. This won't take long. 1412 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:25.199 But Loston found Co is Where's Waldo? But it's more 1413 01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.679 interactive because some of the times I'm just gonna say 1414 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.280 Waldo because that's what I've used. But like, Waldo is 1415 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.639 a donut and he's hidden in a box of donuts, 1416 01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.039 and so you need to click on the box of 1417 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:38.239 donuts in order to find it. Does that make sense? 1418 01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.679 And so like the entire scene, which is like quite 1419 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:44.599 I mean not massive, but the size of a Where's 1420 01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:48.840 Waldo picture, there's animations happening throughout all of it. Maybe 1421 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.599 someone is like mad that somebody's backing into them through 1422 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.400 a car, and maybe someone's like working at the register 1423 01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:57.800 but they're trying. They're like falling asleep, and maybe there's 1424 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.280 a dishwasher, and maybe there's like two people on a 1425 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.880 date and one's really stressed out. You're seeing all these 1426 01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:08.280 different environments happening, and like little animations. You're looking for 1427 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:11.440 these secrets in each space. Usually they'll give you like 1428 01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:16.280 six and you can find most of them, but some 1429 01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:18.639 of them they'll be like you need to discover this one, 1430 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.039 and that means clicking on everything and being like, what's 1431 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:26.239 this do? I like it because Where's Waldo is just 1432 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:30.119 like such a simple experience of finding him, But in 1433 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.559 this one, you're clicking around and discovering a lot of 1434 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:34.639 the different things you can do in this space, and 1435 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.639 sometimes it results in like a cheeky, cute little animation. 1436 01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:43.039 Way too much story and dialogue for a game about 1437 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:46.639 finding shit. Did not love that. But my favorite part 1438 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.079 was that you can auto play dialogue, so there's a 1439 01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.119 button to just let it auto run through, and there's 1440 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.880 also a button to be like, I don't want all that, 1441 01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.960 let me just find stuff. And I did that a lot. 1442 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.719 I don't know why this game has so much story 1443 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.519 for finding stuff in the world, and I couldn't tell 1444 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:06.599 you anything about it because I skipped all of it. 1445 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:09.519 But I did like clicking through. This is just a 1446 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.320 this is a wholesome puzzler, This is a this is 1447 01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.079 the zen. I'm watching a movie and I would like 1448 01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.199 to I would like to click on a game as well. 1449 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:23.199 Game nice, yea, I don't need a contextual rapping for that, Like, 1450 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:25.800 That's why I appreciate something like is the seat taken 1451 01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:30.360 even totally. Yes, like I just Tarotech Legion. 1452 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.599 Yeah yeah, yeah, we're just like I don't know what 1453 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:34.280 what the old aliens do is to shoot him? 1454 01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.000 Yeah, more less talky age, old adage. 1455 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:43.480 This is a uh, this is a most Talkie of 1456 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:48.159 the Year contender. It just keeps it keeps, and They're like, 1457 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:51.039 we've got to figure this out, and I'm like, no 1458 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:53.800 one needs this. I don't want any of this stuff. 1459 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.559 I think actually some people do like this. I think 1460 01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.719 some people do really like story and dialogue. It's just 1461 01:04:57.719 --> 01:04:59.559 not my jam and I didn't want it for this game, 1462 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.800 but I I liked the actual gameplay when I got 1463 01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:02.119 to it. 1464 01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.679 What about Scarlett Deer in oh okay one where I 1465 01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:10.639 was curious about this art style, Like, yep, hand sown 1466 01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:11.320 kind of thing. 1467 01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.840 This one is for all the people who've been complaining 1468 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:22.360 about AI. You better buy this game. It's completely handmade. 1469 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:31.320 Each animated frame is Yeah, it's it's incredible. It's sown. 1470 01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.280 You can't ask for a more handmade game than this. 1471 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.800 It's this is the type of game that you'll watch 1472 01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.760 the trailer and you'll say, oh, this looks nice. Oh 1473 01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:44.119 this is fun. Oh okay, there's some story going on here. 1474 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:45.960 And then you'll get to the last thirty seconds of 1475 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.000 the trailer and you'll say, what the fuck did you 1476 01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:57.599 sew every frame of every character? Yes, they did, every 1477 01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:06.280 character is was was hand sewn. It's really it's really gorgeous. 1478 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.480 It's a gorgeous game, and the animations games are really good. 1479 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.400 How Okay, this shows my lack of knowledge about game design. 1480 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:18.079 How did they get because like they're literally. 1481 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.239 How did it get in the. 1482 01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:24.559 Yeah, I'm assuming they're using like a high speed camera 1483 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.639 or something pointed at these. 1484 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.719 Or is it all hand painted background? Yeah? 1485 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:32.320 I don't I don't even understand how they did that. 1486 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:32.960 That's crazy. 1487 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.239 I don't know. I think they embroidered all of the characters, 1488 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.079 and then they probably use the images of the embroidery 1489 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.880 to make the Yeah, that's my assumption is that they 1490 01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:44.199 digitize the embroidery. 1491 01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:46.719 Yeah, that makes the most sense. But that's crazy. They 1492 01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:48.119 actually took the time to hand sew it. 1493 01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.320 But you can see the line work in the shots. 1494 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.679 So when you look at the trailer, even when they're 1495 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.400 standing still, right, there's three different three to five versions 1496 01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:02.000 of the embroidery, and you can see the thread moving 1497 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:06.039 in the characters as their idols. So it's it's really 1498 01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.519 fucking cool. This is a testament to handmade games that 1499 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.119 obviously have taken just so much heart and so much 1500 01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:15.760 This is a labor of love and I respect this 1501 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:21.840 so much. The it's also a husband and wife team. 1502 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:26.599 I think they like did a lot of this themselves, 1503 01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:30.840 from the design to the music to the coding. So 1504 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:36.199 it's it's really cool to the game itself. You're God. 1505 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.880 I don't know where you are, but I'm gonna say 1506 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:43.159 Old Castle Times, as Dan likes to call. Yeah, you're 1507 01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:46.599 in some kind of Castle Times and you have kids, 1508 01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:52.360 and through some circumstances, you stumble across some nefarious shit 1509 01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:54.400 going on in the town, and then your kids are 1510 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:59.159 gone and everyone's like the noon Witch Gottom and so 1511 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.559 you are going into the tunnels, the caravans like under 1512 01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:08.800 the town to find your kids. It's darker than I thought, 1513 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.400 I think because of the way this was designed. I 1514 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.519 thought it was going to be wholesome, but it's actually 1515 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:18.920 quite violent. It didn't have too it doesn't have like 1516 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.279 a lot of gore, but like I died several times, 1517 01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:26.159 other people died several times, I meet a lot of 1518 01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:30.079 children's ghosts, which means they died. There's death in this. 1519 01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:35.520 Nothing brutal, but yeah, I mean it's there's a lot 1520 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.079 of death and subjects about death in this and murder 1521 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:44.279 and stuff like this. I was surprised and a little disappointed. 1522 01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.840 My honest reflection is that it's it's a bit more 1523 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:49.439 of a platformer than I thought it would be. And 1524 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:51.880 I don't think it's a great platformer. I don't think 1525 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.520 that's where this game shines. I think this game is cheeky, 1526 01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.920 and it has really good dialogue. I think it's got 1527 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.199 a good story, and it's very intriguing, and I don't 1528 01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.199 know what happens. There are times where it's a bit 1529 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.239 of a I need you to get three pieces of 1530 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:08.840 my body back so that I can give you this key, 1531 01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:10.560 and so you're now you're doing fetch quests and you're 1532 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.760 finding these pieces. I don't mind that either. The parts 1533 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:16.039 where it was a bit challenging for me, when it 1534 01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:19.199 was just like you're in the caves, it's really dark, 1535 01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:21.800 and you got to jump through all of these spikes, 1536 01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:23.600 and if you fall, you're dead and you have to 1537 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:27.439 do it all over again. That is not super fun, 1538 01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:31.479 and I think you can kind of you can see 1539 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.439 that this is a mom and pop shop game a 1540 01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:36.840 little bit for me in these moments because it's a 1541 01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.560 bit rough on the edges. When you die, there's no 1542 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.319 death animation, you just you just died. It fades to 1543 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:47.600 black and you wake back up. But nevertheless, there was 1544 01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:49.359 a time in the first hour where I was like, 1545 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:51.439 this game isn't for me because it's too platform me. 1546 01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:54.239 But it got into some good stuff in about three 1547 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.159 hours in that I think was really worth it. And 1548 01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:58.199 so I recommend people who give this a shot, like 1549 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:02.079 give it seven hours and let the story like marinate 1550 01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:03.760 before you make your final decision. 1551 01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:05.960 And I'm curious because I just looked up the game 1552 01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:08.239 on YouTube and I saw a long play was two 1553 01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:10.199 and a half hours long, and I was like, oh cool, 1554 01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:11.960 nice short little thing. And you're like, it takes about 1555 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.560 three hours to get good quit. 1556 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.119 A minute, scarlet, but probably yeah, they're. 1557 01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:20.439 Probably zooming through it. I don't think it's a long experience. 1558 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:22.720 I think when you hand so a game, it's not 1559 01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:24.279 going to be a long experience. I think what I 1560 01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:26.399 was just saying is like the very first hour, I 1561 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:27.760 was like a little nervous that it was going to 1562 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.760 be a full platformer, and it's not a full platformer. 1563 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.399 I assumed based on what I'd seen, it was going 1564 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:34.640 to be sort of like Pentiment. 1565 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.119 If you guys, it looks like yeah. 1566 01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:38.520 That's what everybody else said to me. They were like, 1567 01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:41.800 this looks like Pentiment. You have the exact reaction that. Yeah, 1568 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.359 everyone loves that's true. It just doesn't have the dialogue options. 1569 01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:46.840 There's no dialogue options in this. 1570 01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:50.000 Yeah, that requires like a whole team of writers. So 1571 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:53.119 I get why, Like they're not going for that totally 1572 01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:55.079 of like three era storytelling. 1573 01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.279 This is a spooky tale of children disappearing and you 1574 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:01.479 have to jump to find them. 1575 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:03.920 Sounds like it's more of a showcase for the art, 1576 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:05.359 which is fine. 1577 01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:06.880 That's how I would. 1578 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:07.119 Look at it. 1579 01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:10.319 Yeah, it looks it looks It looks incredible. You can 1580 01:11:10.359 --> 01:11:12.319 see the love that they put into it. It really 1581 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.479 is beautiful. And the audio is good too, Like the 1582 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:18.159 music when they have it, I think is quite well done. 1583 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:19.600 So when it's good, it's good. 1584 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:21.319 I want to show that to Amanda. I feel like 1585 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.359 with her stitching and sewing, she'd be super into that. 1586 01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.920 And then I'm also curious about fresh tracks because, on 1587 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:32.720 the one hand, it kind of looks like first person 1588 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.840 guitar hero skiing with swords. Yeah, but I know it's 1589 01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:39.119 also called I know a lot of cool stuff I 1590 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:42.199 just said, but I know it's also called a rhythm game, 1591 01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.319 and I don't like rhythm games. Is it like a 1592 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:46.039 rhythm game? 1593 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:47.960 Like? 1594 01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.279 Sorry, I also left out like it looks like beat 1595 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:53.960 Saber on skis. It's probably the easier way to say it. 1596 01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:56.359 I think that's the right way to describe it. It 1597 01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:59.039 is a It is a rhythm game. You need to 1598 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:03.279 listen to the music to do the tasks at the 1599 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:07.279 right time. It's a simplified version though, right, Like I 1600 01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:11.800 think this is a simple game that they know what 1601 01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.720 to do, and they're doing this one thing well, which 1602 01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:16.079 is like you're going to go up, down, left, right, 1603 01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:19.079 you lean left and right, you jump in your skis 1604 01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:21.560 and you duck in your skis, and you have a 1605 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:25.439 sword which you swing left, right, up, down, center, whatever, 1606 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.199 and then you just collect balls. If you've seen the trailer, 1607 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.520 you'll see what I'm talking about. But like you, I 1608 01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.479 don't know what they are. But the thing you want 1609 01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:37.680 to collect her these blue balls, and so I'm just 1610 01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.760 getting all these blue balls and I'm avoiding all the obstacles. 1611 01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:44.039 It gets pretty fucking hard. I did a couple levels 1612 01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:46.279 on hard and I died almost instantly. You do need 1613 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:50.039 to actually have some skills, but the first few levels 1614 01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:53.680 were like easy and polite and very nice, and it 1615 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.000 was kind of zen. I was kind of zoning out 1616 01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:56.720 playing this game. 1617 01:12:57.279 --> 01:12:59.359 This is the rhythm of the slopes. 1618 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:03.159 That song has been stuck in my head. We rewatched 1619 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:05.239 that episode of Windows Bay. 1620 01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.079 Oh, we just watched the finale last night. 1621 01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:10.239 Oh yeah, would you think it's great? 1622 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.960 Yeah? Real? Yeah, it was like obviously sets up a 1623 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:14.279 season two, and I think. 1624 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:15.960 That is definitely a show you season two. 1625 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:17.439 Yeah, that's a show you could just do a lot of, 1626 01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:19.159 like because even that first season was just like I'm 1627 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:20.880 not gonna spoil anything, but it's like, here's just a 1628 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.319 bunch of different spooky stuff that happens here, and like 1629 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.039 you can just kind of buy any of it because 1630 01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.119 of the history of the island. 1631 01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:27.119 And yeah, very fun. 1632 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.920 There's some genuinely creepy stuff too, like, yeah, especially in 1633 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.600 the later episodes when you start to see more about 1634 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:36.399 how things work, like eh, it. 1635 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:39.159 It rides the line between horror and comedy like nothing 1636 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:41.279 I think I've seen. I'm laughing out loud in like 1637 01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:42.000 every episode. 1638 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.000 It's incredibly impressive. I love that show. I would be up. 1639 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.920 I mean, I'm not big. We could talk more about 1640 01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:51.399 the show, like for a separate video at some point 1641 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:52.880 or something like that. I know the show is not 1642 01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:55.560 like as hot as it was three weeks ago, but 1643 01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:57.880 I still like talking about that show. 1644 01:13:58.279 --> 01:13:59.119 Yeah. 1645 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:00.560 Uh, you know what else I like to talking about? 1646 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:06.520 What is? Emails? No, all right? As usual? 1647 01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:09.159 You can write into Firescape Past at gmail dot com 1648 01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:12.479 for questions you want read on the show. Our coffers 1649 01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.199 are thin and out. We got a bunch of good 1650 01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.920 ones tonight, but send those in get us prep for 1651 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.279 the next few episodes. You know, doesn't have to be 1652 01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:22.399 about video games. Some of the most fun ones are not. 1653 01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:27.159 That's Firescape Past at gmail dot com. There's one right 1654 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:30.199 up top from Eddie. I want to read Dan. I 1655 01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.239 curious if knew this. It says Dan and Mike speaking 1656 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:34.319 of the Odyssey. Fun fact that you guys might appreciate. 1657 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:36.439 Christopher Nolan is a huge fan of mcgroober. 1658 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:40.840 Yes I didn't know, Yeah, yeah, he's talking about it 1659 01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:44.479 for many years. He absolutely loves mcgroober. Somebody sent me 1660 01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:45.960 a clip I think it was from the View or 1661 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:47.760 something like he was doing the press tour for the 1662 01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.399 Odyssey and like he's sitting next to Matt Damon and 1663 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.680 like Anne Hathaways at the desk and he's like asking 1664 01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:56.920 Anne Hathaways have you seen mcgroober? Like so, Nolan is 1665 01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:58.479 one of those people who's like always trying to get 1666 01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.079 people to watch mcgroober. Which, now I like that. 1667 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:03.880 Okay, I appreciate that. 1668 01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.880 Mary. Do you want to read this one that we'll 1669 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.960 definitely have some discussion about from Blake. 1670 01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:16.439 Yes, Blake from Boston subgamers with a Z thank you. 1671 01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:22.079 Can you name your mount rushmore of multiplayer maps? I'll 1672 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:27.000 go first, Faculty from GoldenEye Facility. Ope, sorry, I did 1673 01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:29.760 it again. I think I know a little bit about 1674 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:33.880 Rivian Facility from Derby and Dick. 1675 01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.520 I just I love that map. I put some respect 1676 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:36.920 on it. 1677 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:43.479 Facility from Dublow seven, Wake Island from Battlefield nineteen forty two, 1678 01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:49.079 Blood Gulch from Halo, and Island Estate from Rainbow six 1679 01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.840 three Raven Shield. Very specific. Okay, now you go, Blake 1680 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:55.920 from Boston. Thank you, Blake. Sorry about faculty. 1681 01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.199 So, yeah, we were talking. We were just kind of 1682 01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:01.680 setting up the premise because we each wrote down our 1683 01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:05.800 own I'm curious we have any overlap, but we are 1684 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.840 flexing what multiplayer map means. It doesn't have to be 1685 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:13.800 a shooter, so keep that in mind. I guess who 1686 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:15.319 wants to go first. 1687 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.800 Dan, I'll have mine here, like I do know, Like 1688 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.479 I love facility, but my favorite facility moments are in 1689 01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:24.520 the single player. I think it's a great single player level. 1690 01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:27.439 It's a really good I mean, it's all fun multiplayer. 1691 01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.079 But my favorite multiplayer level in gold Night is Bunker. 1692 01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:31.199 That is my favorite. 1693 01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:33.520 Yeah. More, I memorize all the spawn points and through 1694 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:35.279 proximity minds on all of them, so it'd kill someone 1695 01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:37.239 once and they just die over and over and over again. 1696 01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:37.720 That was fine. 1697 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:43.039 Number two Paris and Twisted Metal two. That is the 1698 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.800 one where you're running around, like you can go into 1699 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:47.119 the louver and stuff like that. You can go to 1700 01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:49.319 the Eipple Tower and if you blow up the eifplel Tower, 1701 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:51.199 it falls over and you can get to this whole 1702 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.279 extra rooftop area and there's like this kind of water 1703 01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:56.000 area where you can kind of ramp up and run 1704 01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:58.359 over mimes and all this. It's just a really fun 1705 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:03.039 like multi state tow as s Middle map Western Land 1706 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:05.359 in Mario Party two, that was the one where everyone's 1707 01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:07.199 a cowboy and you're going around an old West village 1708 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.640 and you have hoot and nannies. That's maybe my favorite 1709 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:12.039 Maria Party map ever. And then I got a real 1710 01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.960 weird one for my last one, Ukadia from Warhawk on 1711 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:17.640 PS three. 1712 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:20.479 Warhawk was that. 1713 01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:23.560 I'm trying to remember what kind of game that was. 1714 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:26.199 It was you could be you could be on foot, 1715 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.720 you could be in like vehicles like tanks and stuff, 1716 01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.520 or you could be in a Warhawk, which was like 1717 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.960 a vitall, like you know, like a Salt Plain harrier 1718 01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.119 type thing. And so it was just like Capture the 1719 01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:38.680 Flag type stuff where you're flying around, hopping out of 1720 01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:40.720 these planes, you know, physics and stuffn like running around 1721 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.000 shooting sit down with rocket launchers. Oh shit, there's a 1722 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.199 tank here, I'm gonna get get the flag, jumping a tank. 1723 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:50.039 It was just very very kinetic and fun, and I 1724 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:52.680 think Warhawk PS three is criminally underrated. 1725 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.920 All right, cool, deep cut, Mary, I can go next 1726 01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:57.439 to you want to go? 1727 01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:58.680 Next you you go? 1728 01:17:58.800 --> 01:17:59.039 All right? 1729 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:04.279 I also had a battlefield map Strike on Karkhan. That 1730 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.640 was the first time playing a multiplayer map or multiplayer 1731 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.359 anything shooter where I actually felt like I was in 1732 01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:13.239 like an urban city streets environment, and I kind of 1733 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.680 so many shooter before that where these sci fi environments 1734 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.800 are very like like dioramic kind of small things. This 1735 01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:23.079 actually felt like a full on city urban assault and 1736 01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:26.279 they've remade it plenty of times, so I guess other 1737 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.319 people like the two. This one's weird headlong from Halo two. 1738 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:33.960 It is, I have to And there's a reason I 1739 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.920 love this because this was before the era where every 1740 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:42.439 multiplayer shooter map was that three lane structure with variations 1741 01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.680 on it, Like there's a reason those three lane structures work, 1742 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.319 and that that's what the pros play Encounter Strike two 1743 01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:52.079 in Call of Duty in Valeriant, like that's those kind 1744 01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:54.840 of maps where it's like they clearly want these three 1745 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:57.560 lanes to be where the encounters happen. MOBA's also influenced. 1746 01:18:57.600 --> 01:18:59.239 It is that kind of like a domination in Call 1747 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:01.560 of Duty has the read things and there's clearly just 1748 01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:03.000 like these paths to get there. 1749 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.840 No, that's more like the choke points they're trying to design, 1750 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.239 like in modern Call of Duty. But there's like actually 1751 01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:11.560 lanes down one side of the map. There's a middle lane, 1752 01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:14.359 then there's a left. Headlong in a Halo two and 1753 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:17.239 many Halo two maps were very much like they didn't 1754 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.359 care about that. I actually there's a Jacob Geller video 1755 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.399 about this where he talks about being able to go 1756 01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:27.000 back to modern Warfare two maps and kind of explore 1757 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:30.600 these nook and crannies where nothing ever actually happened. You 1758 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.640 never actually encountered anybody else in these houses. Headlong was 1759 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:36.039 very much like that, where it's like there were parts 1760 01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.039 of the map my friends and I never used during 1761 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.560 System Link four v four's but this there's one building 1762 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:43.239 that was under construction. There was another one that was 1763 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:44.760 a parking garage. There was another one that was like 1764 01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:48.720 a walkway kind of panorama thing. It was this city scape, 1765 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:52.840 but like when you came across people in different buildings, 1766 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.920 it felt very it was surprising, but it felt organic. 1767 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.640 It didn't feel like Bungeee really wanted that specific in 1768 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.479 count to happen. So there was like an era of unpredictability. 1769 01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.359 Every time we loaded into that map. There's war hogs, 1770 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:08.680 there's gossward hoogs in it. Like it just felt like 1771 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:12.199 the emergent possibilities every time we played that map, especially 1772 01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:16.600 in split screen or I'm sorry, system link, were like endless. 1773 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:19.840 But in terms of a much more authored map, Shelle 1774 01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:26.000 is my favorite Rainbow six siege map. You get four 1775 01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:29.199 separate starting spawned points if you're the attackers outside in 1776 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:32.119 the snow and the woods basically, and then the defenders 1777 01:20:32.119 --> 01:20:34.039 are in this chlle. 1778 01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:37.880 This cabin in I remember this one, yeah. 1779 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:42.680 And presumably Quebec. But like, there are so many layers 1780 01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:44.239 to this map. Like if you go in through the 1781 01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:46.600 basement and that's where the defense is, like you can 1782 01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:49.560 like obviously the different operators and their skills play into it. 1783 01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:51.600 It's like, oh, Thermite can go through the garage wall 1784 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:55.159 even if they reinforced it and banned it had but 1785 01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:56.880 then banned it can counter him, et cetera. But like 1786 01:20:57.560 --> 01:21:00.640 every floor of the Chalet has a potential is its 1787 01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:03.640 own shooter map almost, but then the way they interact 1788 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:05.520 and when you have to move from Florida floor, there's 1789 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.720 so many different ways it feels kind of like if 1790 01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:11.920 Siege made a map set in like the Home Alone house. 1791 01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:14.319 When you watch a movie enough you get the layout 1792 01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:16.359 of the house down pat Like I feel like that, Shelle. 1793 01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:18.960 The layout lives in my mind where I sometimes like 1794 01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:24.520 still dream about it. And my last one, my last 1795 01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:28.359 one is South Pacific from Red Alert too. 1796 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:29.800 Oh hell yeah. 1797 01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:33.880 That is a perfect RTS multiplayer map. 1798 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:35.039 And I don't dan. 1799 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:37.760 I mean one of the funnest things we did a 1800 01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:40.239 giant bomb and then during COVID was we figured out 1801 01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:43.560 how to play. We got Redler two working for one 1802 01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.920 v one. I didn't really play competitive growing up. I 1803 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.720 played Skirmish against the AI, but like, that is a 1804 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:53.560 perfect multiplayer map. It's if you if you can't google 1805 01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.399 it right now. Basically it is just a small, small, 1806 01:21:57.560 --> 01:21:58.520 medium sized map. 1807 01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:00.640 It's an island in the shape of an X. 1808 01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:03.119 It's almost like an H like it is kind of 1809 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:04.399 like you know it's going to fall up and down 1810 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.439 there and then this very skinny thing in between. 1811 01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:11.000 Yeah, and then there's ocean surrounding it, very thin layer 1812 01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:13.439 of ocean around the map, which allows you to if 1813 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.359 you want to go naval and do the bombardments and 1814 01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:20.399 the the submarines and the dolphins and the aircraft carriers. 1815 01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:21.600 You can go around the edge of the map and 1816 01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:25.279 kind of like control the outside. But what happens is 1817 01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:27.319 you could do four players or you could do two, 1818 01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:29.279 and they could spawn one of these four corners of 1819 01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:32.159 the h and then the middle becomes this crazy choke point. 1820 01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:35.079 But then there are also a ton of resources at 1821 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:37.560 if you're doing one v one, there are a ton 1822 01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:41.039 of resources at the spawn points you didn't use, so 1823 01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:43.880 those become their own battlegrounds because you're fighting over the ore. 1824 01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:47.800 It's such a simple map, but it's I think it's 1825 01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.119 my favorite real time strategy map of all time. Like 1826 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:52.760 when I go back to play Reddler two every few 1827 01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:54.880 months just for fun, like that's the map I load 1828 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.119 up with with AI nice. 1829 01:22:57.279 --> 01:22:58.920 Yeah, yeah, I just looked at the like I didn't 1830 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:00.840 know by name, but then I saw the image, just like, 1831 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:02.039 oh yeah, I picked that one. 1832 01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:04.800 So simple, but I can't. I have a hard time 1833 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.760 not playing that when I load that game up. All right, Mary, 1834 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.640 your turn mount rushmore of multiplayer maps. 1835 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:12.720 All right, I think this one's weird for me because 1836 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.800 I don't have the experience that you guys have with these, 1837 01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:19.159 but I have classics that are important to me, and 1838 01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:22.119 so that's what I'm going to go with here. One 1839 01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:27.039 Team Fortress Too Upward. This is one of the original 1840 01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:31.760 payload levels from Team Fortress two. This is like essentially 1841 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.640 the original Overwatch where you're getting a payload to the end. 1842 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:38.600 Upward is the most iconic of all their levels, where 1843 01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:41.279 there's lots of ways that you can hide in different 1844 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:46.119 tunnels and systems. When I was playing this, this was 1845 01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:50.000 the map that we got really stoked to play when 1846 01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:51.800 I was when I was younger, and like this was 1847 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.439 kind of like one of the original games that got 1848 01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:57.000 me into gaming, so really fond memories. Upward. 1849 01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.199 I remember this. It's like the corrugated shacks on the 1850 01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:02.439 cliff and the wooden walkways. Yeah, that's right. 1851 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:06.319 You could push people off cliffs, which was important and strategic. 1852 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:08.560 Yeah, the map was awesome. 1853 01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:13.079 This is a good one. Whatever. I was like when 1854 01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:14.600 we got this question, I was like, I'm gonna have 1855 01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.840 to google these because I don't remember these map names. 1856 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:21.640 This is tough for Mary. A counter Strike Source was 1857 01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:24.279 important to me growing up as well, and my favorite 1858 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:27.960 map was CS Office. I don't think it is the 1859 01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:31.119 most popular map from CS source, but Office is the 1860 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:36.000 one that I fundamentally learned counter strike basics and actually 1861 01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:39.560 shooting game basics off of. So I did not understand 1862 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.800 a lot of fundamentals of playing counter Strike until Office. 1863 01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:49.239 I spent a lot of time in these hallways sniping 1864 01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:53.079 people and a dying, and this is where I learned 1865 01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:58.760 how to camp behind doors. So good for her. Nice Third, 1866 01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:04.239 we'll go into the future a little bit. I got obviously, 1867 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.840 like we all did, probably have to put at least 1868 01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:12.600 one gears on here, but I don't think it's gonna 1869 01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:16.359 be Gridlock. I think it's gonna be the Tyro Station. 1870 01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:19.479 The reason I like this one is because it had 1871 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:24.199 a train that went through everything. Oh yeah, yeah, and 1872 01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:26.319 so you didn't have to kill people, you just had 1873 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:27.680 to push them into the train. 1874 01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:34.359 Yeah. I have very specific memories of what's the using 1875 01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.039 the torqubo on that map. Yeah, like getting the torqubow 1876 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:40.520 perfectly charged. Someone pops up and I have the headshot 1877 01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:41.800 with the laser, and all of a sudden, the train 1878 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:44.600 blocks my arrow as I shoot it. That's funny. 1879 01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:47.439 Fun I think that the train was Yeah, it could 1880 01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:49.560 be defensive, but it was also just like one of 1881 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:53.520 the funniest ways to embarrass someone if you could just 1882 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.399 throw them at the right moment. A train kill was 1883 01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:00.439 really beautiful and I have a lot of really good 1884 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:04.520 memories doing that. And then finally to the more modern present, 1885 01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:08.439 I have a lot of a lot of good memories 1886 01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:13.119 and I really still respect the map King's Row from Overwatch. 1887 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:18.039 When Overwatch first launched, King's Row was like the main 1888 01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:21.760 one that I think they launched with. And this is 1889 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:27.159 a really fun payload map and it kind of brought Overwatch. 1890 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:32.000 I mean, this was such a bomb when Overwatch launched, 1891 01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:34.359 but this was a This is my favorite map of 1892 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:35.159 that entire game. 1893 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.760 Yes, out side note, I was looking up Halo two 1894 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:46.159 maps earlier and like some this specifically sticks in my memory. 1895 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.840 Whoever wrote the map descriptions just fucking killed it. They 1896 01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:54.199 were one sentence descriptions and they weren't like, oh, this 1897 01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.159 is how this sports like. This relay station is part 1898 01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.640 of a network that has kept Delta Halo funk smoothly 1899 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:06.039 for untold centuries or like water works as While the 1900 01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:08.960 forerunners excelled at mimicking natural beauty, the machinery in this 1901 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:12.279 cavern exemplifies their true genius. But then a relic was 1902 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:14.439 this the one? All relic was an awesome map too. 1903 01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.640 Covenant scripture dictates that structures of this type are memorials 1904 01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:19.760 to forerunners, like there's like an air of mystery around 1905 01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:22.720 them that I think, sure, define that era of Halo. 1906 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:25.079 Better grasp on just the vibe they wanted with. 1907 01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:29.439 Ye, yeah, yeah, all right, thank you Blake from Boston. 1908 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.199 All right, Dan, this is sort of there's a question 1909 01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:36.239 for all of us. But first, he's curious if you 1910 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.520 know what this is about. All right, Hey, fire Escape, 1911 01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:42.079 I was recently diagnosed with Silliac's disease and have a 1912 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.439 few questions. One, does Dan know what that means I 1913 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:46.119 cannot eat? 1914 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:49.640 I'm gonna guess gluten? 1915 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:55.359 Yes, hey, hey, can you list foods that contain gluten? 1916 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:57.479 Uh? Bread? 1917 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.479 Uh? Bread, like a lot of Carby like bread, probably noodles, 1918 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:08.439 like crackers. Yeah, I'm just thinking like Carby grainy type things. 1919 01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:09.479 Sure, yes? 1920 01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:10.920 That beer? 1921 01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:14.560 Yes, yeah, yeah, a lot of beer pretty sure? 1922 01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:17.039 Okay, okay, three out of three. 1923 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:20.840 And then the last question for all of us, if 1924 01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:23.399 this is if any of you needed to give up 1925 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.000 an entire category ingredient of food, what would you pick. 1926 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:29.520 Oh that I would just say something I hate if 1927 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:31.680 Dan tried to say something on your tomatoes. He's also 1928 01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.479 giving up anything containing a catch a barbecue sauce, spaghetti sauce. 1929 01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:38.560 Like, imagine that it would give you You are allergic 1930 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.920 to it so severely that you would get like really 1931 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:44.399 hurt if you had anything with the ingredient in it. 1932 01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:45.640 I could do vegetables. 1933 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:48.680 Yeah, like this is easy, Like I feel like because 1934 01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:50.399 we could just name things we don't like and then'll 1935 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:50.960 we give it up. 1936 01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:54.439 Yeah, like I don't. I never really have I give you. 1937 01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.359 Would you rather give up? No? Now I'm now I'm 1938 01:29:00.359 --> 01:29:02.720 thinking the sentence out loud, and it's really like I 1939 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:03.640 would give up. 1940 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:05.760 Dead rats. 1941 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:11.840 What No, it has to be something with my food 1942 01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.680 on the food pyramid, on the food pyramid, and it 1943 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:19.039 like yes. 1944 01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:21.640 No he didn't say that though. 1945 01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.880 Yeah, but it's too easy because. 1946 01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:28.359 That's what that was my we're agreeing. 1947 01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.600 Are too picky? You guys are? This game wouldn't be hard. 1948 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.840 I am not picky whatsoever. I eat literally anything. 1949 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:39.640 I have let us some stuff and it's like never 1950 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:42.239 brings me joy. No, No, it's right. I think it's fine. 1951 01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:44.359 If you had to be allergic to meat or cheese. 1952 01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:49.479 Which one would you pick? That's the question. I know 1953 01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:52.199 I got them. 1954 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:57.119 I I mean, I don't. 1955 01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:01.079 I'm okay on lettuce the meat. She's the thing is 1956 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:05.159 I'm happier when I'm eating cheese. But I feel like 1957 01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.720 that's just fucked up of like if I can't have meat, 1958 01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:08.960 but I can have all the cheese. 1959 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.039 I went, that's kind of weird. 1960 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.800 You know, like you so much pasta, you could have 1961 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:16.119 so much grilled cheese you could have. 1962 01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:18.840 But here's the thing. 1963 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:22.840 I like meat without cheese, not so like cheese that meat, 1964 01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:25.760 but like cheese without meat isn't like a meal typically. 1965 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:29.560 You know, I'm gonna go even harder because ciliac is like, 1966 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:33.760 not oh you can't have bread, it's you can't have gluten, 1967 01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:37.239 which is like a whole genre of stuff. I'm is 1968 01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:39.439 it meat or dairy? You'd have to give up one 1969 01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:39.680 of them. 1970 01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:41.000 I don't think I have a lot of dairy. 1971 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.000 What I think that we're just saying cheese and meat 1972 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:46.760 would be difficult. 1973 01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:48.359 Oh, I forgot cheese was dairy. 1974 01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:53.279 Yes, I was just reminding you cheese, okay, I thought 1975 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:54.720 it was milk, and I perhaps like I don't have 1976 01:30:54.800 --> 01:31:00.600 that much milk. Oh yeah, I forgot cheese in that umbrella. 1977 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:04.039 Look my my My family was only farmers and grocery 1978 01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:04.600 store employees. 1979 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:05.279 Why would I know this? 1980 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.880 Yeah, I guess dairy's good, but it's just cheese. Cheese 1981 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.439 is the only dairy thing I'm I'm partial to that. 1982 01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:16.920 You're that you yourself reading. 1983 01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:18.880 I don't care about milk. I don't need a lot 1984 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:22.479 of eggs like I don't. I don't like yogurt and 1985 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:25.079 a lot of yogurt. Yeah, I'll get rid of dairy. 1986 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:31.560 Okay, So no cheese, do it for me, Mary, make 1987 01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:31.920 one for me? 1988 01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:41.319 Okay? Alcohol, all of it? Yeah, beer, wine, everything, okay? 1989 01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.000 Or meat? 1990 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.119 I would give up well, like health for health reasons. 1991 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.119 I would give up if that concludes wine. 1992 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:49.720 I didn't ask for. 1993 01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.079 Can we have the impossible and beyond burgers? Yes? Then okay? 1994 01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:56.279 Then then then I'm giving up me because it's all 1995 01:31:56.319 --> 01:31:57.119 undiscernible to me. 1996 01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.760 Wow, wow, wow? The have you ever had day cheese? 1997 01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:01.239 You can? 1998 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:03.960 I know there's some stuff you can do, but like 1999 01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:05.520 the meat stuff is really come a long way. 2000 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:08.640 I'll give up meat and just seat the vegan meat stuff. Wow. 2001 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:12.600 Easy, he's boy over here easy. 2002 01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:16.119 I want to say I would give up alcohol, but 2003 01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:19.479 I do not want to go the rest of my 2004 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.159 life without. Like it's specifically wine. You could have said, 2005 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:24.199 because that's mainly the only thing I drink. 2006 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:27.079 I chose meaner so all about no, I'm. 2007 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:29.880 Saying I don't. I don't really drink beer or sometimes 2008 01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:32.479 I have liquor, but it's mainly wine. I had the 2009 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:34.199 conversation with a mana the other day. I was like, 2010 01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:36.079 she asked me, if I if I had to choose 2011 01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:39.520 between coffee and wine, what I would pick. I still 2012 01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:43.920 I still would go wine, but like I also would 2013 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.119 be very very very sad if I never drank coffee again, 2014 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:49.880 Like I don't. I don't get I don't get caffeine 2015 01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.000 withdrawal headaches. Like I don't think i'm a I don't 2016 01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.079 think I'm addicted to coffee. I'm sure like on some 2017 01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:55.760 level I am, like I do need it to kind 2018 01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:58.880 of kickstart a day, but like I just on days 2019 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:00.880 I don't have coffee. I'm just I'm really not myself. 2020 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:02.920 I'm just sad kind of. 2021 01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:08.159 I love coffee. Mountain dude doesn't drink I don't want that. 2022 01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:11.039 Yeah, this these guys. Did I tell you? I took 2023 01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:14.720 them all to breakfast, the giant bott guys. And there's 2024 01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.640 five of you, you four of you, there's four of them, 2025 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:23.359 one of me. And they go, uh, we all order breakfast, 2026 01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:25.720 and I say, I'll have a coffee, and they go 2027 01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:29.560 and five diet cokes. And I said, guys, know I'm 2028 01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.359 getting a coffee and not. He's like, I know. It's 2029 01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:34.880 because he drinks two diet cokes with breakfast. 2030 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:37.800 Yeah, So I got to, Mike got to and then 2031 01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:40.159 we know, I think we added a sixth because we're like, well, 2032 01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:44.239 chuck and grub, you know they gotta get one wait wait, wait. 2033 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:46.920 Diet cokes and a coffee for our breakfast. 2034 01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:50.039 On a regular basis, you guys drink two die cokes 2035 01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:50.560 with breakfast. 2036 01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:55.279 I definitely most days of my life had a couple 2037 01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:55.880 of sodas. 2038 01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:57.479 Uh when I wake up. 2039 01:33:57.800 --> 01:33:59.600 I used to have a mini fridge next to my bed, 2040 01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:00.800 just so like before I get out of bed, I 2041 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.239 can grab my first mountain dew. I mean, I didn't 2042 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.000 have my first coffee till I was like my thirties, 2043 01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:09.720 you know, so like nowadays, I do have coffee more 2044 01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:12.119 often than I have soda, but I got rules. If 2045 01:34:12.119 --> 01:34:14.800 it's like after like ten am or if I'm kind 2046 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:16.720 of hungover, I want the soda first thing. 2047 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:19.560 You don't drink any coffee after ten am. 2048 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.079 I mean I do on occasion, but it's like, to me, 2049 01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:25.279 coffee is a like early morning thing, like I'm getting 2050 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:27.359 up early and having a baglin coffee before a run 2051 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:28.520 or something like that, like seven am. 2052 01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:31.640 You know, gotcha for my lunch break. During the day, 2053 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:35.880 I enjoy like grinding beans, getting into the measurement stuff. 2054 01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:37.760 It's just like a fun ritual. But like I do 2055 01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:40.439 the I don't know if it's actually true, but I 2056 01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:43.720 have feel like I have maintained good sleep patterns with 2057 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:48.439 the seven hour rule, like just don't have caffeine seven 2058 01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.840 hours or after before you go to bed, within seven 2059 01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:55.239 hours of going to bed. So like most days after 2060 01:34:55.319 --> 01:34:57.960 two pm or three pm, I really try not to 2061 01:34:57.960 --> 01:34:58.560 have coffee. 2062 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:01.560 Man, when I was at Giant, it was like I 2063 01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:03.000 think I was at like a dozen. So it does 2064 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:07.159 today with caffeine, yeah, like late. 2065 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:07.520 Into the night. 2066 01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.399 Yeah yeah, because if I have a we're free at 2067 01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:11.319 the New York office. 2068 01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:13.119 That's your dad. 2069 01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:16.479 That's your dad coming out of your fucking face, that 2070 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:17.640 is your buffet. 2071 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:22.920 Yeah, I don't mean to be presumptuous because but maybe 2072 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:27.239 one of you guys know this, But I generally, if 2073 01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:30.039 I have like coffee at four pm, I definitely noticed 2074 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:35.000 I'm having trouble sleeping how that night. However, I've also 2075 01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:39.039 there's been occasions where, like in certain cultures, like Italian food, 2076 01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.079 like even like growing up with my family, we would 2077 01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:45.119 some and like on holidays we'll have coffee after dinner. Yeah, 2078 01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.479 and I know, on one level, the bitterness We've talked 2079 01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:49.439 about this before, apparatives and DJ just thieves are the 2080 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:53.239 same exact there's no difference the bitterness we have. Like 2081 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:55.920 from what I understand, we've evolved. When we taste bitterness, 2082 01:35:55.960 --> 01:35:58.960 it gets your digestive system moving because you think you're poisoned. 2083 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.239 Because like supposedly, when we're like our ancestors, when they 2084 01:36:03.239 --> 01:36:04.880 taste a poison, that was a sign to our body 2085 01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:06.560 that we were or we tasted bitterness, there was a 2086 01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:08.760 sign that something might not be good for us. So 2087 01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:13.760 apritif gets you your digestive system moving, so you're hungry 2088 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:18.039 for dinner. DJ stif after dinner is to do the 2089 01:36:18.079 --> 01:36:21.000 same thing. But to aid digestion, get things moving. So 2090 01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:23.840 maybe coffee does that. But I also don't understand how 2091 01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:26.359 I sleep really well those nights after I have like 2092 01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:28.239 an after dinner coffee with the caffeine. 2093 01:36:28.319 --> 01:36:28.800 I don't get it. 2094 01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:30.920 When I go back to Jersey and you know, with 2095 01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.399 a Bonx family, you know, they're an Italian family in 2096 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:35.800 Jersey and a big thing with them is coffee, and 2097 01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:39.119 which is like after dinner they have coffee and where 2098 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:42.399 it's like they'll get like a dessert and coffee and yeah, gotcha, 2099 01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:45.600 or I don't know, it's coffee and dessert or they yeah, 2100 01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:46.800 like and is that and stuff happens. 2101 01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:50.399 I don't get it. I can't imagine winning a coffee 2102 01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:51.279 after a meal. 2103 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:53.520 But I've done it before and like it doesn't keep 2104 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:57.239 me up, maybe because maybe because like maybe the food 2105 01:36:57.279 --> 01:36:59.800 in my stomach is dampening caffeine. I have no idea. 2106 01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:01.960 I'm actually genuinely curious. I could google it, but I'd 2107 01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:04.279 rather hear what people have to say. Mary, do you 2108 01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:08.399 know do you know what the question was? We're even 2109 01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:09.279 listening her listeners. 2110 01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:12.640 She shook her head vigorously. That's the Seinfeld thing, I 2111 01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:13.880 asked her. She just kept on. 2112 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:19.119 Yeah, I have no Like the DJ's teeth and apper 2113 01:37:19.159 --> 01:37:20.640 teeth is like beyond me. 2114 01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:24.239 What are Yeah, Mike has ex Like when Mike said, 2115 01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:27.359 we've talked about this before. I guess that's technically true, 2116 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:30.399 but Mary, it's wet. It's like when Flanders was explaining 2117 01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:32.520 apple cider to Homer and his brain floated out of 2118 01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:33.680 his head and he just collapsed. 2119 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.000 That's that's kind of what happens there. 2120 01:37:36.159 --> 01:37:37.840 Happens all the time. 2121 01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:40.399 Pre pre dinner drinks and after dinner drinks. They're usually 2122 01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:44.640 bitter because they're in like Italian culture. They're better help 2123 01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:48.159 you poop after dinner, but before dinner's to get you hungry, 2124 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:52.279 Apper a teef like appetizing, and then DJ just eve digested. 2125 01:37:52.479 --> 01:37:53.079 I'm gone. 2126 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:54.319 They're the same thing. 2127 01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:59.000 It's pretty simple. Fucking don't both. 2128 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:01.840 Why don't you go compare boats with Beckler? 2129 01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:04.279 I fucking wish I had a boat. 2130 01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:08.039 I'll lend you one. I would be so insufferable. 2131 01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:11.079 If I had, I would get like the loudest, most 2132 01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:14.479 lime green speed boat with like shark's teeth painted on 2133 01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:14.880 the side. 2134 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.000 That's actually a fun questions like what would your boat 2135 01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:18.520 look like? 2136 01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:21.520 I just described it min sharkth too. 2137 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:25.159 I've always had that's the coolest thing. Oh no, didn't 2138 01:38:25.159 --> 01:38:27.359 that be green? But I need the scary shark face. 2139 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:28.800 Like it's an old World War two plan. 2140 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:31.720 If you if you live in New York or Jersey, 2141 01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:34.560 you know, I'm just describing the Beast. Have you guys 2142 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:35.720 seen this? Do you know what this is? 2143 01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:36.359 No? 2144 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:39.079 Oh, Dan, I feel like you would actually ironically love it. 2145 01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:41.159 So we go out to the pier sometimes and on 2146 01:38:41.199 --> 01:38:43.199 the Hudson River there's a thing called the Beast. It 2147 01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:47.119 is this huge lime green with sharks teeth and like 2148 01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:49.399 black zigzag things. It's one of the It's like a 2149 01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:51.800 boat that is designed to be fast as fuck but 2150 01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:55.039 also seat like sixty people. And what they do is 2151 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:59.560 they like they do drifting in the Hudson to splash. Yeah, 2152 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:02.319 and every time we're at the pure, man is like, 2153 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:04.680 who who who pays to ride that thing? I was like, 2154 01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:06.079 Dan would probably love that. 2155 01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:08.279 Oh that thing is fucking awesome. 2156 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.039 Yet yeah, look up, look up like a video or 2157 01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:13.640 a gift of it, because it drifts and it's it's 2158 01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:16.520 designed to splash the ship out of the people on board. 2159 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.439 Okay, I'm on board of this. I'm a boat guy. 2160 01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:24.039 Now, but like every time, I'm like, I don't want 2161 01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:25.880 to not go on that thing. I don't know that 2162 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.119 I want the Hudson River water all over me. But 2163 01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:29.600 at least it's surface water. 2164 01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:32.840 It's this fucking cool. Yeah, if we're ever in New 2165 01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:34.479 York City again together, we got to do this. 2166 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:37.800 Do it like you could get get the giant bomb 2167 01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:41.319 staff on that thing that'd be yes your podcast for Wait, like, 2168 01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:43.479 see how many people at seats? I assumed it's like fifty. 2169 01:39:43.520 --> 01:39:44.039 Maybe it's more. 2170 01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:45.600 Maybe it's it looks like we. 2171 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:46.520 Do this for your wedding. 2172 01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:49.920 This is so we should have rode that to the venue. 2173 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:51.760 You get to opt which boat you want to take, 2174 01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:54.600 the classy ferry or for the beast. 2175 01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:58.000 You get taken the beast. 2176 01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.359 Our fucking officiate gets there and you just soaked. 2177 01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:01.960 Like crashing. 2178 01:40:02.159 --> 01:40:04.119 You guys are just waiting for me at the altar 2179 01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:05.880 thing and what's up doors? 2180 01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:07.920 Drunk ramp off? 2181 01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:11.920 Just jump out and parachute down. How many up to 2182 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.640 one hundred and thirty eight guests you can. 2183 01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:20.039 Be married on the best thirty minutes you have your nuptials. 2184 01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:22.439 Okay, hang on, you got to see the guy that 2185 01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:25.560 works there and runs the thing. Blow this up nice 2186 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:27.479 and big. Here look at this fucking guy with the 2187 01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:33.159 flame shorts. Oh man, oh wowuck, we're living here. Guy 2188 01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.479 Fer's like yeah, yeah, because, oh my god. Look at 2189 01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:38.600 the woman three to the left in the front. She 2190 01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:39.840 is miserable. 2191 01:40:40.199 --> 01:40:43.279 Images that woman's husband drug her. 2192 01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:43.520 There. 2193 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:45.399 Wait when is this photo from? They all look like 2194 01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:46.319 they're dressed like it's done that. 2195 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:47.720 It looks like two thousand and four to me. 2196 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:51.439 Yeah, this is when the Beast was in its prime. 2197 01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:55.199 Oh yeah, oh difference red and yellow. They change the 2198 01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:55.760 paint job. 2199 01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:57.640 It's cooler now with the green. 2200 01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:00.279 But every like every once in a while, we'll see it. 2201 01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:04.199 You can hear it. It's like it's like riding the waves. 2202 01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:09.920 It's that it's probably backlar driving in around. But yeah, 2203 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:12.199 we got an email. We got another email. People ask 2204 01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:13.760 us what to do in New York City ride the 2205 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:17.880 Beast ride give me, give me ease, point one of 2206 01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:23.119 these a jersey and say what up? But yeah, that's 2207 01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:25.800 I forgot what the original question was. But thanks for 2208 01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:33.279 the question, Steven. I got one more because we got 2209 01:41:33.279 --> 01:41:38.119 we got some time. How's it going in Sorciernan? I 2210 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:40.800 pissed myself out and thought of that. Sometimes while out 2211 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:43.279 and about I smell the right combination of cigarette smoke 2212 01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:45.439 and Aqua de joe, and suddenly it's two thousand and 2213 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:48.319 eight and I'm a drunk sixteen year old wandering around Germany. 2214 01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:51.039 I wore that cologne on that trip. Do you have 2215 01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:53.000 a memory tied to a very specific scent that your 2216 01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:54.960 ol factory likes to dredge up every now and then? 2217 01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.119 Peace out slots Our old. 2218 01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:05.439 Friend wes this pog slammer this. I bought it on eBay. Yeah, 2219 01:42:05.640 --> 01:42:08.720 that's the one. Talk about this because I feel like the. 2220 01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.560 One that I thought it smelled like, I remember it 2221 01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:12.479 smelling in bond because like it smells like it came 2222 01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:14.359 from like a house filled with cigarette smoke. 2223 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:17.880 Oh no, okay, we specifically talked about how cigarettes make 2224 01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:21.640 me nostalgic, but maybe we did talk. I usually remember 2225 01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:23.399 what I've talked about it on a thing before. For sure, 2226 01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:28.239 there's there's a there's a very specific smell in the 2227 01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.000 plastic crates of a specific company that made them tote 2228 01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:36.279 and Decker tote boxes. They're plastic crates that we used 2229 01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:38.439 like there, I remember we had a ton from the nineties. 2230 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:39.640 They were like. 2231 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:44.079 Two feet high and they had the handles. 2232 01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:45.720 That the lid went on. I don't know, it'll come 2233 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.760 to me, but we stored all our Christmas decorations in those, 2234 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:51.159 so over the year they would get a lot like 2235 01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:53.880 this musty smell being in the basement, which sounds gross, 2236 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:55.800 but then we'd open it up and I would just 2237 01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:59.239 be like, oh, Christmas didn't start until I smelled that. 2238 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:02.079 And then there was this one specific like painted porcelain 2239 01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:04.399 bell that used to have a noise maker in it 2240 01:43:04.439 --> 01:43:06.359 that would play like Christmas carols when you press the 2241 01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:09.359 bottom of it, but the noise maker fell out, so 2242 01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:12.279 throughout the year that bell would just trap the musty smells. 2243 01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.239 So I'd be like, I'd put it on my face 2244 01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:16.920 and be like, it's like I was huffing glue out 2245 01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:17.880 of a brown paper bag. 2246 01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:21.720 But Mike, you described this with the exact same passion 2247 01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:26.239 you describe smelling asparagus p Yeah. 2248 01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:27.600 Which is also good. That doesn't make me nostalgic. I 2249 01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:31.079 just get a weird bone piece when I smell asparagus pee, 2250 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.399 which is weird because ironically you can't really. 2251 01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:39.520 Pee with a bone Were you smelling that. Yeah, you've 2252 01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:40.520 done being at that point. 2253 01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:42.079 I showed you what I have to do in the morning. 2254 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:43.960 I like the weird crouch you have to do and 2255 01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:47.239 you have to pee, but you just woke up. Go on, 2256 01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:50.279 how do you how do you pee in the morning 2257 01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:52.680 with morning wood? 2258 01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:55.640 Well, you do the you put one hand against the 2259 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:57.479 wall and you make yourself kind of a forty five 2260 01:43:57.520 --> 01:43:58.640 degree not forty that's. 2261 01:43:58.560 --> 01:43:59.079 A little yeah. 2262 01:43:59.119 --> 01:44:00.239 Yeah, it's like a tripod. 2263 01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:02.520 Yeah yeah, I'm like, I do like the like a 2264 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:04.079 half back in football stance. 2265 01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:07.159 Oh, it's like a three point stance. Then you're like 2266 01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:07.960 getting down. 2267 01:44:09.159 --> 01:44:11.239 I don't know. I'll show you at some point, Okay, 2268 01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:16.079 I'll send you a diagram. Yeah. I also, i'd like 2269 01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:18.880 many people, I think growing up in the suburbs, fresh 2270 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:22.359 cut grass definitely brings me back, as does hose water 2271 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.199 specifically that like corroded metal water smell that like when 2272 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:29.159 people are using their sprinklers in the lawn, you'd get 2273 01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:32.199 that would just drift out of There's a couple lawns 2274 01:44:32.199 --> 01:44:34.159 in my neighborhood, not many, but like there's a couple 2275 01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:36.199 of houses with actual grass lawns, and when they're using 2276 01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:39.079 the sprinkler I like, I have to stop and get 2277 01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.880 after it with my nose for a few minutes. Yeah, married, 2278 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:44.479 do you have any or is it just? Is it 2279 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:45.199 just malibu? 2280 01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:46.840 Uh? 2281 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:48.760 What's the smell of malibu? 2282 01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:50.279 Malibou rem Yeah? 2283 01:44:50.319 --> 01:44:53.720 Oh right, I was gonna say my I have an 2284 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.159 ex boyfriend in middle school who used to always smell 2285 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:58.520 like Hollister cologne, And now when I smell, which is 2286 01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:02.840 very rare, it makes me fucking mad. It makes me 2287 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:06.319 mad because he dumped me and I don't like him, 2288 01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:10.399 and I'm still mad about it. I'm still angry at. 2289 01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:12.960 Him spraying the studio before Game of the Year. 2290 01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:18.039 I'm just gonna you know what you did, Brad, and 2291 01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:23.279 you his name was Brad, We'll dos him, but his 2292 01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:25.600 honest to God, his name was Brad. And he lived 2293 01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:28.199 in another town, which means my mom had to drive 2294 01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.960 me a long way to go see him, and he 2295 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:35.439 dumped me two weeks before prom. You can go to hell, Brad. 2296 01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:38.319 Wait, you actually did date someone who quote unquote goes 2297 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:39.359 to another school. 2298 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:44.359 Yes, and and I was I was a freshman and 2299 01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:46.479 he was a junior, and he dumped me before prom 2300 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:48.479 and then he couldn't get another date and so on, 2301 01:45:48.720 --> 01:45:51.159 Like the day before prom he reinvited me and we 2302 01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:54.760 went wow awkward, and then the next day he dumped 2303 01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:55.199 me for real. 2304 01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:56.399 Jesus, fuck you. 2305 01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:01.680 Rad is psychological minefield. 2306 01:46:02.199 --> 01:46:05.239 I'm I'll be bitter about it forever. 2307 01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:09.279 I'm gonna I can't wait. I probably have some house 2308 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:12.760 or clones stashed away somewhere. AKA. At all times, he 2309 01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:13.119 had a. 2310 01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:17.000 Car that was lowered, and my driveway had an incline, 2311 01:46:17.039 --> 01:46:20.439 and every time he tried to drive it onto my driveway, 2312 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:24.000 you could hear the car like screw against the ground. 2313 01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:28.359 Fuck you, Brad, your stupid car. 2314 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:40.319 Any other smells like anything that doesn't set you off? 2315 01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:42.399 What calms you when you smell it? From back in 2316 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:44.199 the day, from. 2317 01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:44.760 Back in the day. 2318 01:46:45.479 --> 01:46:46.039 Christmas? 2319 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:50.720 He smells make me happy, you know, you know Christmas smells. 2320 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:52.720 I don't like the smell of bug spray, but it 2321 01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:54.239 does bring me back to when I campll out when 2322 01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.640 I was young. Sure, sunscreen lotion too, but I use 2323 01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.279 sunscreen lotions still often enough where it's not like a 2324 01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:01.840 thing I associate with childhood. 2325 01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:05.399 Campfires associate me with childhood, like the smoke of a 2326 01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:08.800 fresh fire and a freshly lit mollow. 2327 01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:12.319 M mmm, first you toast the mallow. 2328 01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:15.000 First, you see. I feel like Paul Record will be like, 2329 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:18.720 it's not called a mallow, but yeah, it's it's a mallow. 2330 01:47:19.800 --> 01:47:20.159 All right. 2331 01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:27.000 Well, thank you Wes and fuck you Brad. 2332 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:29.680 You know what you did. You know what you did? 2333 01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:33.000 All right, that's our show. I wonder we get some 2334 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.800 more questions in fire Escape. Yeah, don't just stop. 2335 01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:39.760 Where you bring up my trauma. 2336 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:41.520 Living in your head still to this day. 2337 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:43.279 God, it was so long ago. 2338 01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:46.960 Fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com. Get more questions in. 2339 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:50.279 Get those next. The coffers full for the next few episodes. 2340 01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:53.319 We will be back in a couple of weeks. But 2341 01:47:53.439 --> 01:47:55.840 in the meantime you can go to firescapecast dot com 2342 01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.239 and if you're not a patron, you can get ad 2343 01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.159 free episodes, or you can get our video versions, which 2344 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:04.479 also knocks all our bonus episodes. We did one recently 2345 01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:07.439 with Mecha Chameleon, all four of us, including Jake, our producer, 2346 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.039 which was ended up being super fun. We try to 2347 01:48:10.079 --> 01:48:12.960 do those when we can find time. You can go 2348 01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.600 to Firescape merch dot com get those banana hammocks. I 2349 01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:20.119 know summer's summers got another about like a month, like 2350 01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:22.039 a month and a half in a some places in 2351 01:48:22.039 --> 01:48:26.760 the northern Hemisphere. So get those banana hammocks, get that 2352 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:30.479 than slang and get to the pool and show off 2353 01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:34.000 our merch. And then outside of that, Dan, what do 2354 01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:34.680 you have going on? 2355 01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:37.960 Giant Bomb doing tons of stuff. Check out our YouTube. 2356 01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.399 We've got the usual weekly stuff as well as some 2357 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:43.439 fun travel stuff. We'll see when I get done with 2358 01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:45.680 the travelog. Got a ton of footage to wade through here, 2359 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:48.479 but hopefully sooner rather than later. Yeah, check out giant 2360 01:48:48.520 --> 01:48:51.319 bomb dot com, giant Bomb Premium if you want to 2361 01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:53.640 add free. But yeah, doing a lot of great stuff 2362 01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:54.039 over there. 2363 01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:57.359 Right, what about you check. 2364 01:48:57.239 --> 01:48:59.079 Out giant bomb dot com because I'm on the rate 2365 01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:02.680 latest travel log through Portland, which is pretty fun. And 2366 01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:06.279 I also stream on my Twitch channel every Monday, and 2367 01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:08.920 I do try and stream the games that I'll talk 2368 01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:10.840 about on here, so you guys got to get to 2369 01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:12.960 check them out with me, which is fun. 2370 01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:18.239 All right, We'll be back in two weeks till then. 2371 01:49:19.159 --> 01:49:22.319 Enjoy your summers or if you're down under somewhere and 2372 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:25.680 hopefully it's not too cold, and uh, we'll see you then. 2373 01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:27.479 Bye bye.