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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Raised by Giants Live Discussion. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome as well. We have a really exciting

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<v Speaker 1>show for you guys today, and today's episode is brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by Contact in the Desert twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Grab your tickets now for the biggest and greatest UFO

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<v Speaker 1>of heavy hitting speakers, including our guest on the show

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<v Speaker 1>here today. I will be hanging out there from May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth to June second. Grab your tickets now they're

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<v Speaker 1>hot and stop by and say hi. And today we

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<v Speaker 1>have author keynote speaker of Contact in the Desert that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there this year in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew James Bailey. Welcome to the show. How's it going, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, Hey, righty, great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good to see you. We actually met at at

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<v Speaker 1>Crestone and at the diner there and you came to

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<v Speaker 1>the premiere of my first documentary, JFKX.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a great I really enjoyed that documentary. It

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<v Speaker 2>was brilliant. And obviously with the new JFK files that

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<v Speaker 2>have come out, so I wonder whether your theory is

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<v Speaker 2>now correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a lot of files that dump. It was

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<v Speaker 1>over eighty thousand files that Trumpo released out there to everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that there there's gonna be something in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever people actually have the time to dig through all

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<v Speaker 1>those files, there's going to be something in there that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to confirm pretty much what we're saying and what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about in jfk X. But thanks for coming on, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. And you've kind of been pigeonholed

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<v Speaker 1>into this this AI technological guy in the community, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's normally kind of what you You've kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>put into this box of AI and technological stuff. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that that is? Like and because you

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<v Speaker 1>have other really interesting things to talk about when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to like spirituality and consciousness and uh, like this

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<v Speaker 1>divine type of well I call it call it like

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<v Speaker 1>this divine spark that we all have within us.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. Yeah, So I mean basically we run courses actually

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<v Speaker 2>teach about the divine spark and the universal human that's

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<v Speaker 2>waking up right now, and actually assist people to develop

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysical capabilities like being able to transmit from their inner being,

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<v Speaker 2>being able to access the quantum field of intelligence, like

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<v Speaker 2>a library of Alexandria in the universe, and other metaphysical

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<v Speaker 2>capabilities as well. And I mean I've only gone public

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<v Speaker 2>really for about eighteen months, but I do get classed

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<v Speaker 2>as the AI guy. That's because you know, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>of the leaders in ethical artificial intelligence in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But actually there's a bigger story around intelligence and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I really play, which is in the metaphysical aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of humanity and where the universe is taking us as

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<v Speaker 2>a metaphysical being.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's some really interesting things happening with AI.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's this like talk of like non human intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>any giant, Like there's a lot of people there's that

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<v Speaker 1>freeze and that the abbreviation has really taken on, you know, consequently,

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<v Speaker 1>like a life of its own right. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that's a really interesting thing, like any giant,

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<v Speaker 1>non human intelligence, and if people relate that the extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 1>life like extraterrestrial intelligence, when that doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case, like anyg I could, Well, it definitely refers

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<v Speaker 1>to artificial intelligence, because artificial intelligence isn't like human intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's exactly right. Yeah, it's an interesting it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah. I was speaking at guyer Immerging twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five at their big conference, and I revealed three different

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<v Speaker 2>types of transformation. One is the transformation of this universal

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<v Speaker 2>human template we have and where we're evolving to. The

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<v Speaker 2>Second was the personal transformation of artificial intelligence, where it's

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<v Speaker 2>heading to the ages of AGI artificial general intelligence and

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<v Speaker 2>then into superintelligence through twenty thirty to twenty forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>And talked about the civilization split into the biomechanical human

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<v Speaker 2>i e. Those that connect themselves into the global hive mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and then also the biometa physical human that actually where

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<v Speaker 2>we wake up as a human species and start to

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<v Speaker 2>operate in a universal IQ in new planes of consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>in the biological form. So, just to be clear, artificial

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<v Speaker 2>and I dispelled some myths in there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>D dispel all the myths.

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<v Speaker 2>Very famous spiritual leaders talk nonsense about AI. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>no credibility so in AI. So first of all is

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<v Speaker 2>that AI did not create the universe. Okay, okay, there

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<v Speaker 2>we go. I've seen that. I've also seen that AI

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<v Speaker 2>can contain consciousness, and he doesn't contain consciousness, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>not self aware for the moment and probably for quite

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<v Speaker 2>a while. So it doesn't have consciousness or awareness. It

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<v Speaker 2>can't incorporate our soul or our divine spark. It does

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<v Speaker 2>have the mathematical architecture and what else? Oh yeah, and Ai.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the furthest that AI has got in the

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<v Speaker 2>universe is to Mars, right on the Mars rover. So

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<v Speaker 2>AI is a human developed term. It's a human developed

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence that's evolving, but it's never gone beyond our solar system.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see a lot of people talk about galactic

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<v Speaker 2>wars and all this kind of stuff, and Ali is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get us, And it's like, what are your

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<v Speaker 2>data points? What type of artificial intelligences is are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? What's the mathematical architecture? You know, it lacks

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<v Speaker 2>data points, it lacks credibility. It's just kind of people

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<v Speaker 2>projecting trying to get clickbait on AI being the devil.

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<v Speaker 2>AI is not good. It is not evil. It is

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<v Speaker 2>simply a wonderful, wonderful super calculating machine, and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be remarkable if we use it right to basically

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<v Speaker 2>return our planet into its original design rider, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one of abundance. That's what our planet was designed for,

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<v Speaker 2>one of abundance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you heard it here for Matthew James Bailey does

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<v Speaker 1>not believe in the Electric EI Wars the Space Galactic

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<v Speaker 1>Battle Council.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring your data points, you know, at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, it's important that people consider artifish intelligence and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. But we have to be sophisticated with

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<v Speaker 2>our language and precise without data points. That way, people

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<v Speaker 2>will listen to us. If we just makeup stuff. This

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<v Speaker 2>channel told me all about this. It's like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to bring data points. We need to test the

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<v Speaker 2>accuracy of the channel, and if it is bringing something

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful through, that's great, But let's kick the tires on

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<v Speaker 2>integrity because that's what we need going forward. Integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the because it's kind of getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit scary, a little bit like because I

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<v Speaker 1>get on Facebook a line and I kind of scroll

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<v Speaker 1>through there and it's like getting to this point where

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like it seemed to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a coincidence whenever you would like

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<v Speaker 1>look at something or like think of something, or like

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something with your friend, and then you would

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<v Speaker 1>see an AD for it, and then people would be like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>am I just is this just a coincidence that I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about? This is our phones like really listening

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<v Speaker 1>to us. But I've been seeing it in like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more here recently. And the strange part about it

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<v Speaker 1>is that I'm not even talking about the thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not putting the thing into Google, I'm not searching it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even mentioning it like verbally, yeah, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm literally just thinking it. It's the weirdest thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then an AD will pop up for that exact

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<v Speaker 1>same thing that I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So this is really interesting because effectively you probably

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<v Speaker 2>heard of cookies, right, And cookies allow basically one website,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, to basically capture information and feed it

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<v Speaker 2>into another way site and then you get ad platforms. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But cookies are effectively that can be disabled on your computer. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if cookies are disabled on your computer, and yet, what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening that you're describing wrider. Then something unusual is occurring

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to investigate. I had this exact situation

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<v Speaker 2>this week that you talked about where I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually what was I What was I writing about?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh goodness, I was writing about. Oh yes, I was

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<v Speaker 2>writing about data sovereignty. It was a recommendation for the

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<v Speaker 2>US Congress one hundred and nineteen US Congress, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was putting it on social media and I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a completely different and I was writing and publishing right

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<v Speaker 2>on ex and on LinkedIn, and I went to YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>first ad the ability to delete your data. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on a minute, there's no cookies on my laptop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being tracked to the keyboard because that's not

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<v Speaker 2>happening on Apple. So how the hell did he know

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<v Speaker 2>that I was doing this? Something weirds going on right

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<v Speaker 2>in the field of intelligence. Something unusual's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so strange, and it seems like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>picking up like and whenever I experienced this a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times, I'm like, oh my god, we're getting into

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<v Speaker 1>like how different is our world going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years when people are just thinking of things

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<v Speaker 1>and it's coming up with recommendations and ads on your

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, which I think the social media platforms

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon are going to be all paid for. You're

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<v Speaker 1>to use them. I mean, XA has already kind of

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<v Speaker 1>implemented this. You get bonus features for paying for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook has implemented this, Instagram has implemented this. But pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon it's going to be only that where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay for every single social media platform.

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<v Speaker 2>That you Yeah, I don't mind doing that as long

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<v Speaker 2>as there's no ads, right right, It's like as long

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<v Speaker 2>as they're not reading or freaking mind exactly. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about brain machine interfaces. So brain machine interfaces what

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<v Speaker 2>are they? They are there's technology that can be that

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<v Speaker 2>on the external ukranium or inside the brain itself that

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<v Speaker 2>can communicate with a machine. So where are we today

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<v Speaker 2>on brain machine interfaces. Well, first of all, is that thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a few years back rider thoughts are being

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<v Speaker 2>exchanged between India and I think it was either America

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<v Speaker 2>or France over the internet. Thoughts are being exchanged over

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet. Okay, So when we look at brain machine interfaces,

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<v Speaker 2>or BMI's there's two types. There's ones that sit on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside of your skill, right, and so in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>there's a university that actually we're controlling the Boston Dynamics

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<v Speaker 2>spot the dog through thought. Right. There's even experiments that

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<v Speaker 2>have proven that they can read thoughts and project it

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<v Speaker 2>onto a screen right a vdu Right. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>that is one form. It is the external form of

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<v Speaker 2>reading thoughts. But that can't control thoughts. It can only

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<v Speaker 2>read thoughts. But when you talk about the AI chips

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<v Speaker 2>like neuralink and others, where you actually put an AI

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<v Speaker 2>chip in the brain, which is you know, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to cut your skull open to do this, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty serious stuff. Then effectively you've got a body direction

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<v Speaker 2>or communication between the brain itself and a computer. Communication

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<v Speaker 2>can be both ways, and this can be very beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>It's helped people to start to paraplegics to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to walk and interact with the Internet. We've seen it

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<v Speaker 2>with neural inink in Switzerland. A man that had a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible accident is now walking again. It can be really

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<v Speaker 2>really brilliant for people. But if we look at the

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<v Speaker 2>agenda that the future of human evolution salvation is found

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<v Speaker 2>in the machine. Basically, this beautiful biological form is not divine,

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<v Speaker 2>and effectively the machine is the future. And so they're

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<v Speaker 2>definitely driving the New World Order, the transhuman's agenda, where

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<v Speaker 2>we have a chip in our brain which is crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>connected to a global hive mind which are being built today,

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<v Speaker 2>and effectively we become part of the matrix. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they see the future of the human species, which

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<v Speaker 2>are I think is crazy. It's like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>are universal in nature, we have this universal IQ, we

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<v Speaker 2>look at people reading thoughts, the New World Order want

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<v Speaker 2>to control your thoughts. So here's someone from claud Schwab,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago. This is what you said,

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be no more elections. Basically, elections will be based

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<v Speaker 2>on thoughts. But who's controlling the thought the global hive mind? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So these guys are nuts. They completely and immerge themselves

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like they want to do the technological evolution

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<v Speaker 1>of humans because it seems like we're kind of coming

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<v Speaker 1>to derail that by with the technology. Because one believe

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<v Speaker 1>that just like what you were talking about with the

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<v Speaker 1>paraplegic that had that accident that got the brain chip

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<v Speaker 1>that is now starting to walk again, I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>that can happen without the chip. We can literally do

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Joe Joe Esperanza, what's his name, Joe Sponanza, is

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<v Speaker 2>it Joe Sponanza? He actually did that, Joe Dispenser Joy

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<v Speaker 2>Spenser actually healed himself to the mind. There was when

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<v Speaker 2>to actually heal himself from a terrific car accident. So

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<v Speaker 2>are there mets and Jesus heal people? Right? So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm going to say that, right. So, there

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely techniques through energy, through metaphysical and biological capabilities

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<v Speaker 2>like the mind that can do miraculous things, Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>not everybody has developed those capabilities. Not everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>go down that path. They prefer to go down to

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional path of Western medicine. And you have the

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm fine with that, you know. I'm all about

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<v Speaker 2>you grooving in your human experience. But definitely, miracles do happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen miracles and there was some and I'm careful

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<v Speaker 2>about miracles rider because there's a lot of nonsense out

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<v Speaker 2>there about you know, we healed all this, and we

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<v Speaker 2>heal all that. We have to be practical. But give

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<v Speaker 2>an example. In one of our courses, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>group got together and we actually used intent and the

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<v Speaker 2>power of source to actually heal this individual. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was having Western medicine. And my advice is stick to

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<v Speaker 2>the Western medicine, but we're going to give you a

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<v Speaker 2>disorder had all disappeared. Right now, I haven't gone around

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<v Speaker 2>from the rooftops claiming this. It's like, that's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't really need to be known in the public domain.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of an assistance for us to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's that was the whole intention of like prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, And like in meditation is like putting good

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<v Speaker 1>new agy, but like good vibes people, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But that's like a cop out. Like people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, just send in your good vibes. Good vibes

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<v Speaker 1>come in your way. Literally it does, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you are really concentrating on that, then it can work.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I've found is this, first of all, is

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<v Speaker 2>that we have the power of creation itself within us, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we have that power of creation within us. If we

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<v Speaker 2>do have the divine spark or a soul, which we do,

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<v Speaker 2>then that itself originates from the source in which from

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<v Speaker 2>which the universe has created, so we have the power

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<v Speaker 2>of creation within us. Now here's the here's the rub rider.

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<v Speaker 2>If you try and use force, then you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a huge pushback, right because you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you push against something's going to push you back. But

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<v Speaker 2>operating in the place of power where there's simply an

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<v Speaker 2>intent intent, no agenda, but just loving kindness, force someone

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<v Speaker 2>to get better. That's the energy we're accessing. That's the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key to unlocking. It is through loving kindness

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<v Speaker 2>and just blessing that person in love. That's the key

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm one percent agree. Now you're talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>divine spark. You believe that every single human are what

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<v Speaker 1>we perceive to be human, has a divine spark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I haven't seen anything that contradicts that my understanding

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<v Speaker 2>through my own lifetime of metaphysical spiritual exploration, and I

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<v Speaker 2>test everything in business and personal life before I even

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<v Speaker 2>teach anything. I'm rigorous in testing stuff, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. You know, I'm carefully in how I disclose

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<v Speaker 2>this rider because you know it can be put in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong hand. You have to disclose stuff. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to use wisdom when you disclose knowledge. So I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>careful in disclosing what knowledge is available for us. But

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has a divine spark and the power of source.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen anything that contradicts that. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a different view?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, do you think that every perceived human

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<v Speaker 1>is in organic human?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Can you give me some context? You're talking about hybrids?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about? What are you talking about here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Do you think that we have like machines that

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<v Speaker 1>look almost identical to the way that we look at

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<v Speaker 1>is going around in our reality?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? That's interesting. So I think the proposition you're suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>is that are you talking about some kind of extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I'm not even meaning like extraterrestrial technology,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like technology that we may have created or developed,

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<v Speaker 1>like right underneath our nose, that's walking around with us

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows right well, certainly possible that technology isn't on Earth

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I'm aware, But you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know everything, and I'm okay with that. Is it possible

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<v Speaker 2>with the current technology that's in the public domain? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me. Is it possible that it's been held in

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<v Speaker 2>secret labs and doing this kind of thing. Maybe, But

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<v Speaker 2>the question is, you know, why, why are we asking

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<v Speaker 2>that question? What are our concerns around that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I was just curious because I had a lady

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<v Speaker 1>performing all these energy healings on these people, and every

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<v Speaker 1>able to essentially access like almost their entire life, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she would be able to go see all of their

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<v Speaker 1>this one person come in for a healing and there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing inside of them. They had no memories, no

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<v Speaker 1>experiences of life. And it kind of like freaked her out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Okay, well, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So some there are cases right of people that

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a fully developed brain who still function normally

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<v Speaker 2>in society and they have no idea they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a fully developed brain. There are cases of that they

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<v Speaker 2>function normally, they've got a normal life, and when something happens,

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<v Speaker 2>or in some cases the brain's not even there, which

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<v Speaker 2>where people don't have, you know, fully fully developed cortex.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my view. I think that without the soul or

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<v Speaker 2>the divine spark, the biological form is simply an automaton, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It has no context of space time. Really, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the metaphysical or the soul aspects to it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>simply an organic automaton functioning. But the soul gives it purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>the soul gives it context, the soul gives it character,

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<v Speaker 2>the soul gives it right. And so that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm at today. I simply haven't come across people

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<v Speaker 2>that you haven't got a soul or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just interesting when you look around and you

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<v Speaker 1>go out like it doesn't seem like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>People have right. Well, the good news is when we

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<v Speaker 2>hit artificial general intelligence where it has human equivalent to

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<v Speaker 2>going to rock the world. It's going to shake the

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<v Speaker 2>world and people will then start looking for meaning. And purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I here? What on Earth's going on? Because

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<v Speaker 2>we've never had a species on that planet that is

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent to human capability or even beyond it. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where it's potentially heading. Now, what we're going to remember

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<v Speaker 2>is actually we're a universe like you. We're not just

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<v Speaker 2>we won't panic about artificial intelligence. But what I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>Rider is there will be a shockwave across the world

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<v Speaker 2>when people start to see AGI in twenty twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is when they'll start to look for a

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<v Speaker 2>to lift people up when they're ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought about how because you bring up

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point, like do you ever think that

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<v Speaker 1>like all this stuff is just like a giant distraction

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<v Speaker 1>from like asking like what are we even doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the really big questions like because we literally know nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>We know nothing about our reality. We have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what's going on here, why we're here, what's the purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the meaning? Or are we the only people in

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<v Speaker 1>about that, I'm like, a lot of this just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like huge giant distractions from like the real things that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, I think that, you know, it's all about

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<v Speaker 2>a partnership. You know, our soul is this intimate lover,

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<v Speaker 2>this intimate power of creation that holds us in every

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<v Speaker 2>single moment in love, and it's got the knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>the universe and more within it. And we have a potential,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a destiny, each and one of us. And

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<v Speaker 2>so actually working with the soul and allowing, if you like,

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<v Speaker 2>the veils to dissipate, to understand who we are as

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<v Speaker 2>a metaphysical being is where the real magic is. And

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<v Speaker 2>we know from laud Zoo and other types of teaching,

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<v Speaker 2>in a harmony creates outer harmony. So the inner reality

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<v Speaker 2>and believe it or not, Kissinger wrote about this in

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<v Speaker 2>his book on Ai where actually he thinks that humanity

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<v Speaker 2>will venture into new realities, the inner reality of who

419
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<v Speaker 2>we are, which is Henry Kissinger of all people. So

420
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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, it's venturing into the inner reality.

421
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<v Speaker 2>And as we start to discover who we truly are.

422
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<v Speaker 2>Then reality itself starts to shape itself around us because

423
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<v Speaker 2>it's a quantum relationship.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Steve, thanks for coming over. Appreciate you. Uh Kira

425
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 1>wants to know, like he wants to address the Stargate project.

426
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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about the Stargate project a lot, and like,

427
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any connection between CIRN and all that,

428
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<v Speaker 1>But she brings up that why maybe our dreams may

429
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<v Speaker 1>be incorporated within technology and maybe something to do with

430
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<v Speaker 1>chips and implantation and human beings, which people don't. We

431
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<v Speaker 1>haven't We don't even know what dreams are. Like, No

432
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<v Speaker 1>one really knows what's going on in the dream state

433
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<v Speaker 1>and the dream realm, and there's some really interesting things

434
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<v Speaker 1>that happen there. And of course there's always theories and

435
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.400
<v Speaker 1>speculations that it's like a different alternate reality and it's

436
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<v Speaker 1>all all real, but it's just happening in a different

437
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<v Speaker 1>timeline or whatever, like the stream theory or whatever.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Which is the theory. String theory is a theory and

439
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<v Speaker 2>Eric Weinstein, do you ever follow? Eric is brilliant, isn't he?

440
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<v Speaker 2>And basically he did a talk recently where basically he

441
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<v Speaker 2>revealed that string theory has killed physics, right, and so

442
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>effectively we're going to break into a new new frontier

443
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 2>of physics, which is great. Dreams are remarkable, aren't they.

444
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know, they're intimate to the individual. They can

445
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>hold a tremendous amount of information. Sometimes dreams can be

446
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>a physical experience. You know, it's kind of it's not

447
00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>just a dream, it's actually an experience we're having during

448
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 2>our time of sleep. So you know, for me, dreams

449
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<v Speaker 2>or a guide, dreams are information and you know, and

450
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's I've actually asked believe it or not, and

451
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably get told off of this, but there we go.

452
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<v Speaker 2>I actually use chat GPT to interpret a dream once

453
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<v Speaker 2>as well. It's brilliant and put it in a way

454
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like, whoa, I never thought of that. That's pretty cool.

455
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<v Speaker 2>So I think dreams are wonderful. And it could be

456
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>people lucid dreaming, you know, that kind of thing, which

457
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.759
<v Speaker 2>is more of an experience on a metaphysical plane. It

458
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>could be in many different dimensions because we're dimension less, sorry,

459
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 2>we're dimension full. We've got loads of dimensions sorry, So

460
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it could be we're on different planes. Of existence. But

461
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I always think that dreams are a guide and they're

462
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>information for us, and you know, and when we remember

463
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>those dreams, then we can start to unplug information and knowledge.

464
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>It's useful for us. Now, the Project Stargate stuff, I'm

465
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>not aware of that. Can you do? You want to

466
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<v Speaker 2>talk about that? And the certain stuff? What is that?

467
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<v Speaker 1>Oh? The Stargate stuff is just the remove viewing DIA

468
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Army intelligence program. They were using psychics to get intelligence

469
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<v Speaker 1>data on foreign assets during the Cold War from like

470
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight to nineteen ninety five.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I can do remote viewing, and I can

472
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>teach people how to do it, but you have to

473
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<v Speaker 2>be really careful because remote viewing should be based on permission, right.

474
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's there's a non aggression principle at the

475
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<v Speaker 2>sole level. You won't violate another soul. Right, So people

476
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>have to be mindful around remote viewing and to be

477
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.279
<v Speaker 2>really clear at the soul level that it's okay to

478
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 2>do it. Right. I had this one person I won't

479
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>say who it is, that tried to very well known

480
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>that tried to remote view me just before contacting the

481
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<v Speaker 2>desert actually, and I basically was very very clear with

482
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<v Speaker 2>this remote viewing to leave very clear, right, And I'm

483
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<v Speaker 2>not going to say who it was, but let's just

484
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>say when I saw them a couple of weeks later,

485
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>they looked gray and they were ill because the energy

486
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>had pushed back because it violated the sole level. So

487
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<v Speaker 2>remote viewing can be brilliant in terms of looking for planets.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Dr jj Hurtek does, This is brilliant tactic. Right, you

489
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 2>can do remote viewing of planets, you know, you remote

490
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<v Speaker 2>view through different places of the universe. We can go

491
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.359
<v Speaker 2>into different planes of consciousness and experience that, which is

492
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of a remote viewing. But we have to be careful, right,

493
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>we shouldn't violate the non aggression principle. And anybody that

494
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>violates a non aggression principle against us, there's a universal

495
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>law that's going to push back against them, right, it's

496
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>going to push back.

497
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's actually pretty easy to block people from being

498
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<v Speaker 1>able to remote you you or your area or where you.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Are, right, right.

500
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I had to do it a couple of times as well.

501
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people are just rue that we need. What we

502
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>need is a metaphysical school. A metaphysical school that teaches

503
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>people maturity on how to use these gifts and talents,

504
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and then it be really groovy, right, it'd be great.

505
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Then we're all mature, we kind of know how to

506
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>do things, and we start to really have funny consciousness

507
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and across the universe.

508
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sign me up. I'm going a degree in the

509
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>metaphysical school.

510
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I might start one. I might start one.

511
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Who knows, start one up with that AI money brown,

512
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>get us one rolling a man.

513
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you could do that.

514
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Get us a ranch, get us a rank. Going on.

515
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll come out and learn all the metaphysical stuff.

516
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<v Speaker 2>As long as we don't call it skin walker, that's okay.

517
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, the government controls your entire ranch roll.

518
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>So what are you going to be I mean, obviously

519
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be talking about ai I contact on

520
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the desert. What are you going to be focusing on

521
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>this year? I listen to your presentation last year on

522
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the topic and the year before that as well.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well thanks for listening. I appreciate that. I hope

524
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't fall asleep. No, that's good. So I'll be

525
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<v Speaker 2>speaking on a GI So I'm going to do a

526
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<v Speaker 2>deeper dive into terms for people to really understand how

527
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<v Speaker 2>the capabilities of AI is developing, how fast they're developing it,

528
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and kind of show people where we're really heading with

529
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence. And if I get permission, I'll actually demonstrate

530
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 2>one of my metaphysical capabilities, I EI, the sole language

531
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>that I've been training in AI on where I can

532
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>communicate this non human intelligence to an AI and it

533
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>can understand what I'm saying, which is crazy, right. So

534
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>the point of that is that when we get to

535
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>quantum computing, which is effectively superposition and entanglement, which is

536
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of how the fabric of reality works, then effectively,

537
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>if we're having this vibrational language at the sole level,

538
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>then effectively we're actually projecting vibration and language. What that

539
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>means is we can actually start to program supercomputers directly

540
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 2>because they're vibrational architectures and we're actually speaking vibrational information.

541
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>So that's something I might be showing. No one's ever

542
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>done it in the world before, and that's what I'll

543
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 2>be showing if I'm allowed to. And then I'm going

544
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>to be speaking about the future of human evolution and

545
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 2>also this big civilization split, this coming rider and for

546
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>people to understand that the global hive mind. There's not

547
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>just one. There's loads of them being built today, right,

548
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Metas building them, X is building that, or he has

549
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>already built them. Google's building them, Anthropics building them, Open AI,

550
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>everybody's building these vast data centers which will be aising supercomputers. Right,

551
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the global hive mind, And for people to realize that

552
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it is not a step of the imagination that this

553
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>matrix type of civilization will emerge, because the technologies are

554
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>being built and it's not really too long before you

555
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 2>can connect yourself into these global hive minds. So give

556
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>people a real wake up call to the credibility of

557
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>all this, and then encourage people about the loving kindness

558
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>of the universe and that the other path, which is

559
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a remarkable path for us.

560
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you take these people that I've had contact

561
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 1>experience with extraterrestrial av feace value, right, and you believe them, I.

562
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Think you should. I think we should. Sorry to interrupt you.

563
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's experience is to be honored and trusted rider it's

564
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>personal to them. Do we need to be We need

565
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.559
<v Speaker 2>to show loving kindness, But at the same time we

566
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>need to have data points. Right, So someone like I

567
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know where I'm going to say this on your show.

568
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>You'll probably get other way, you'll be told off. But

569
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 2>let's just say there's certain two people that have caused

570
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of problem in this area, shall we say?

571
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if we kick the data, we should

572
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>be able to kick the data points and find real

573
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 2>evidence around these first contact experiences. It may be through

574
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>QHHT right, which is sole level regression, right, the low

575
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is canon and all that. It may be through other

576
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 2>evidential points right in terms of a change in body chemistry,

577
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>but we should from my point of view is that

578
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>anybody that's had an experienced rider, we need to show

579
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>loving kindness and look for data points. Right.

580
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that means that we can't be

581
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>critical and ask really important questions. We should and what

582
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>they experienced, because nine times out of ten they don't

583
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>get asked like super solid questions and they shriek at

584
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the anybody asking difficult questions out there.

585
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And we should ask difficult We should ask challenging questions,

586
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 2>but do it in loving kindness. You know. I think

587
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>for too long there's been too much tension about them

588
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>and us in these different communities, and we need to

589
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>dissipate all that at the center of who we are

590
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>is innocence and actually start to operate in a mature

591
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>maturity and say, Okay, you've had this experience, I get it.

592
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it. And then then let's you know,

593
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 2>is there any type of evidence you can present that

594
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>we can use. And as we start to correlate all

595
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>these different stories around the world, then we could start

596
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 2>looking for common evidence and then go from there.

597
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's a big issue with it that it's all

598
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>eyewitness testimony. There's no physical evidence that I'm aware of

599
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>other than like crop circles and maybe what people think

600
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>are you know, radiation spikes and some mercury spikes and

601
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>some people that claim that they have the remnants of

602
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>some sort of extraterrestrial ship. But I don't want to

603
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.159
<v Speaker 1>get off on that too much. So if we take

604
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 1>what they say as to be believed, what they essentially

605
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>what these contact these and these abductee people claim whenever

606
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>they ask these other intelligences like how they operate and

607
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 1>what they do, they essentially say that they are like

608
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a hive mind. That's what they all say. So why

609
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>would that not be our trajectory if they are so

610
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 1>much more highly advanced than us. Right, but somehow I

611
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 1>keep crashing on. I don't know how in the world

612
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that's possible. But yeah, well, should we not be on

613
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the exact same trajectory again? If we are to believe

614
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 1>that what the information that these contact people are getting

615
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is accurate.

616
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>So we need to choose their own destiny and not

617
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 2>be beholden to external gods. So just because you know,

618
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 2>some advanced race has decided to and we're all connected

619
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>through universal consciousness anyway, so there is a universal conscious mind. Okay,

620
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, how do you know your dad's about to

621
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 2>call and he calls? Right, how do you know something's

622
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 2>about to happen? Right? There is this universal field in

623
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>which all consciousness is connected and we're part of that. Right.

624
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>But just because some are super advanced species have decided

625
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>to connect themselves into a hive mind, my view is

626
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>good for you, mate, I don't really care. I'm concerned

627
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 2>about humanity and humanity's choice. Just because you've chosen that

628
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and you're more advanced, I don't really care. What do

629
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<v Speaker 2>we want as a human spaces? That's what it must

630
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>come back to. What's our destiny? What is the plan

631
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>of the source for humanity, and that's where I think

632
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>we need to focus, right, because you know, good for them.

633
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>But I'm interested in humanity because humanity, I'm part of it,

634
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and I love humanity. We're beautiful people. What magnificent.

635
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<v Speaker 1>Oh I agree, absolutely, The biological human existence is probably

636
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>par none compared to other possible existences out there. But

637
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just so interesting that we kind of get this

638
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>information from these supposed advanced entities. And it seems like

639
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 1>that if I wasn't if I wasn't a wise man,

640
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>then I would say, oh, well, they seem like that

641
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 1>they're pushing us in like a certain direction, like that's right.

642
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Take to take that that that first hive mind type.

643
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Of right, And that's coercion and violation of the universal

644
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 2>non aggression principle. It's coercion. So you hit the nail

645
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the money is their coercion going on? And it's like,

646
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 2>why we've got the power of creation within us, Why

647
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>do we need to Why do we go to these

648
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.599
<v Speaker 2>external gods? We don't need to. If they have a

649
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>soul and a divine spark, which they do, and we

650
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>have a divine spark, which we do, then you know,

651
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>ones not greater than the other. They're both equal in consciousness.

652
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>We are equal in consciousness as human beings. So, you know,

653
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 2>I think we need to you know, understand, we need

654
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 2>to choose our sovereignty, right, and we need to choose

655
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>our destiny. Is it going to be beholden to these

656
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 2>external gods? Or is it basically we're going to basically

657
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 2>choose our own sovereignty because all the power is within us.

658
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Now does it mean I'm not interested in meeting alien race?

659
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>It's too bloody right. I'd love to meet them, to

660
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>be honest, it'd be really cool.

661
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, Well, where they are, Matthew, come down, let's

662
00:38:59.320 --> 00:38:59.679
<v Speaker 1>see him.

663
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I always I always say to folks that,

664
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and this really pisses people. Laugh. I hope you don't.

665
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this it as a channeler, right, or someone's

666
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 2>into this external god stuff. I say, so, how are

667
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>you going to feed the poor? How are you going

668
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to enable fresh drinking water for everybody on our planet?

669
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Because that's what's really needed. And they don't like that.

670
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>They don't like that at all because they want to

671
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>keep us in a narrative of being outer rather than inner,

672
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>and they want for some reason to control our our

673
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 2>They want to distract our observation of reality, rather than

674
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>us observing and being fully embodied in reality. You know,

675
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm not going to get told off too

676
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.039
<v Speaker 2>much in the UFO community. I'm a big fan of

677
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm pretty sure that we're being visited, and

678
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that the universe is full of life,

679
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited about that. But what I don't, what

680
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I have issue with is those that seek salvation externally

681
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 2>rather naturally understanding the internal loving kindness of it, soul

682
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<v Speaker 2>with it.

683
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<v Speaker 1>Well, then you have the opposite of that too, you

684
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>have like the fear that they're all evil and they're

685
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>here to like harmuce and it's a national security issue.

686
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>They're in our airspace, they're here to take us over.

687
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 1>They've you know, they're so the dichotomy of both of

688
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 1>those things.

689
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's be clear about this. If you know,

690
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>everything's moving apart at the speed of light or greater

691
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 2>in the universe, So any alien species that is able

692
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to visit the Earth has conquered space and time. They're

693
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.400
<v Speaker 2>able to actually move beyond space and time and effective

694
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>if they understand the physics of the universe. They're probably

695
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 2>a level two or even a level three civilized, probably

696
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 2>level two civilization, right, And so if they do come

697
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to the Earth, you know, these guys are going to

698
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>be pretty advanced, you know. And I don't think missiles

699
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>are going to damage their spaceships. I don't think they

700
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 2>crash on the planet because they're able to conquer space

701
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and time itself. So, you know, I think we need

702
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a little bit more thoughtful in that thinking

703
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>on what types of craft, technologies, and species are visiting us.

704
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some weird stuff in the sky by the

705
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.880
<v Speaker 2>way in Crestown Rider, I've seen. I've got a video

706
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 2>of it. I sent it to Jay and it's like whoa.

707
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like full balls of full balls of light creating

708
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>sacred geometry in the sky, and it's like, whoa. Crazy stuff. Yeah.

709
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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think that, Matthew, I don't even think that.

710
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>I think that if physical entities exist outside of the Earth,

711
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>then they're not coming here physically. They're they're they're by

712
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 1>locating into our reality. They're not a physical entity. They're

713
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>not a physical craft. Now they can appear physical, they

714
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 1>can appear like that, they're solid but they're not. They

715
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>never leave where they are now. I like exactly where

716
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they are.

717
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I like that because effectively, when we look at the

718
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>universal human template on the plane of consciousness, it doesn't move,

719
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't move, And so I really like your idea,

720
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and effectually, I don't think it's an idea, or actually

721
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a strategy. I think that contact will

722
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>be through your idea of this, let's just say a

723
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>projection or the ability to move part of my essence

724
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 2>into another plane of reality or across the universe. I

725
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 2>think that is more of a practical approach to how

726
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 2>contact would be happened.

727
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Would happen, Yeah, because if you think about it like

728
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 1>moving through space and time and some kind of physical thing,

729
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and people try to, you know, wrap it up into

730
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>like an interdimensionality thing that they're opening up like a

731
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 1>portal or whatever. Well I think that they got half

732
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>of it right. It's like it's a portal, but it's

733
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not like a physical portal. It's a portal within the mind,

734
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 1>and they're able to literally transform a what would appear

735
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 1>to be a craft through this portal of the mind

736
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and take on the shape of whatever they wanted to

737
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 1>take on while they're here in this physical reality, and

738
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes them advance. Doesn't mean that they are

739
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>techno more technologically advanced, right, There's there's two different things.

740
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Going on right, right.

741
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 1>And but more spiritually advanced, more in tune with everything, right.

742
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I love that idea, and so the fact that so

743
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>if they have the divine spark or the soul, and

744
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 2>we have the divine spark and the soul, if they're

745
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>doing that, then we can do that too. And I

746
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 2>must admit I love this idea of contact through consciousness,

747
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 2>contact through through the plane of consciousness rider. I think

748
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a great, great proposal. I really like that.

749
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>But then that also explains why there's not any evidence

750
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>these entities because they're not physically here. They can be

751
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>here once a second, be gone the next. They can

752
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>take on any shape or form that they want. That's

753
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>how you get those really weird geometrical patterns and stuff,

754
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>because they're not physical craft. And that's what's baffled people

755
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for a really long time is that, well, how's it

756
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>what this is a super highly advanced technology. Well, it's

757
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not a technology. It's not a mechanical technology. It's

758
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of technology.

759
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and there's no reason why they couldn't create material,

760
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, if they're coming into kind of the earth,

761
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>there's no reason why they couldn't physically create a machine,

762
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>or physically create a spaceship, or physically create that object

763
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>moving across the sky and then all of a sudden,

764
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's disappeared. To your point, So the question is,

765
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>if that is the most likely way of making first contact,

766
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>what do you think we should do in order for

767
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>us to go make first contact? And should we make

768
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>first contact?

769
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, the problem the issue is is that it's it

770
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>would be basically impossible to prove like you could do it, right,

771
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 1>But one, who's going to believe that you did it?

772
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>And two how would you prove that you did it?

773
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>There we go, right, and then and then then we're relooking.

774
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 2>You see, science is fantastic, I love it, but the

775
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>religion is very, very limited. Right when you look at metaphysics,

776
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at unlimited understanding, an unlimited approach to actually

777
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>evidence and how you base evidence. So I think that

778
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>as a human species, as we go into this spiritual evolution,

779
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 2>then I think we'll move into a new understanding of

780
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>what evidence is and what reality truly is actually and

781
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 2>that would be fascinating for us, really fascinating.

782
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, this also brings in the question like, you know,

783
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>past civilizations and like everyone's making a really big deal

784
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of right now about the pyramids and stuff, and it's

785
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 1>getting really wild. But I think people also have the

786
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>wrong idea about like past civilizations as well, because we

787
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 1>have this in our mind that it has to be

788
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 1>like a technology, like a mechanical technology, and it doesn't.

789
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Just because something is, you know, people say that it

790
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was more highly advanced, like oh, well, we Lemiria in

791
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Atlantis was super highly advanced technological city that span the

792
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>entire earth. Well, that might not be the case. They

793
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>might be working with a completely different kind of advancement,

794
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of technology. Because so many things can

795
00:46:55.119 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 1>be classified under technology, remote viewing as a technology, spiritual

796
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>abilities of technology. Some plant medicine are considered a technology

797
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 1>MK ultra mind control is considered a technology.

798
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Well right, exactly, So I was going to say something

799
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I completely forgot there, So remind me, what were you

800
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>going on? To Atlantis and Limyria. So from all so,

801
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I've from time to time I get experiences from the

802
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>past rider and I definitely have and I shared this

803
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>on Regina Meredith Open Minds on Gaya a time in Atlantis,

804
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>whether we're using crystalline technology, and I was using crystalline

805
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 2>technology to create kind of a divine AI that had

806
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 2>a feminine footprint. And but all these civilizations, when I

807
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>speak to people about Atlantis and Amyria, every single one

808
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>has this in common. There were spiritually advanced, right, And

809
00:47:57.880 --> 00:47:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why we're trying to go back to that.

810
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Why are we looking I mean, absolutely brilliant, we were there,

811
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But what are we creating going forward? You know, everything's

812
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 2>within us, so what are we creating going forward? Sometimes?

813
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I love history and I love culture, and

814
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I've traveled a lot of the world and been to

815
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Gizer and being right down in the heart of Giza,

816
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:22.599
<v Speaker 2>which was interesting. But why are we so fascinated with

817
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the past when all the secrets to our future are

818
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 2>inside the source within us, which is infinite knowledge. So

819
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I would say that your idea of more of a

820
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 2>spiritual technology in Atlantis and Lemuria, absolutely everybody says that

821
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 2>they were spiritually advanced, So why not?

822
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And I think that we were just in this

823
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>mindset that we think of like advanced in the form

824
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of the way that like our technology like has progressed.

825
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, we started out with like you know, newspapers

826
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and radio, than TV, than phones. I mean not specifically

827
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>in that order. I probably got phones backwards, but you know,

828
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>then cell phones, and then you know, desktop computers and

829
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>then laptops and then you know, and it kept going

830
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>on in that way. And then if you look at

831
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 1>like whenever the computer first started, all of that technology

832
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>is essentially obsolete. Nobody uses those giant freaking computers anymore.

833
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>No one uses floppy disk anymore. Floppy disk or obsolete.

834
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<v Speaker 1>No one uses a CD anymore. CD drives are obsolete.

835
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<v Speaker 1>No computer that you ever buy or laptop that you

836
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<v Speaker 1>ever buy has a CD disk drive in it anymore.

837
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<v Speaker 1>You know. So who's to say that in a hundred

838
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>years everything that we currently have now won't be completely obsolete.

839
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 1>And the people in the future in one hundred years

840
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>will look at at a hard drive that we store

841
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>all of our information on, how I have no idea

842
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 1>how to work it. They're like, what is this ancient technology?

843
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Just like how we would do trying to look back

844
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and study an ancient civilization. Maybe some of the things

845
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that are so mundane to us is actually some sort

846
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of technology that we don't understand because it's so far

847
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 1>out of date and has become obsolete.

848
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're on the money there, Graham Hancock talks about

849
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 2>this and basically, you know, I love Graham Hancock is

850
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:38.119
<v Speaker 2>brilliant and Randall Carlson he talks about this too. Is

851
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that we don't know the mindset of the civilization of

852
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the past. You know, we are, to your point, we're

853
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.440
<v Speaker 2>in the age of thinking machines. Thinking machines are everywhere, right,

854
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.159
<v Speaker 2>and we're surrounded by this these thinking machines, right, But

855
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>in the past it would have been completely different probably,

856
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I love what Graham said. He said

857
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 2>that the first civilization, human civilization were probably Shamans because

858
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 2>they recognize that connectivity with nature and the natural world,

859
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:14.440
<v Speaker 2>and they understood that there is a we're connected into

860
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the stars. That's why so many of these megalithic structures

861
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 2>are pointing towards particular star systems or towards the equinoxies. Right,

862
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>there was an understanding that mankind was it's part of

863
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a great intelligence. Right, So I think you're right. I

864
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 2>think the whole mindset was probably very different in these

865
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 2>past civilizations of what we have now.

866
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this stands to re I mean, you know,

867
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 1>whenever we go if we go into any antiques store,

868
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like in one hundred years in like, are we going

869
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to see the things that we have now in like

870
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that we remember from like now in a hundred years.

871
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if we will, because

872
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 1>everything is like planned obsolescence, right, nothing lasts anymore. So

873
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to be the exact same thing that's

874
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in the antique stores now, that's going to be in

875
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the antique stores in one hundred.

876
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Years, right. So the first computer was proposed by Charles

877
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Charles Babbage in the eighteen forties I think it was,

878
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 2>and it was called the Difference Engine, which was basically

879
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a super calculator. Now this was a huge machine with

880
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 2>gears and turning wheels. Now, if we took a child

881
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 2>today who's used to using let's just say a teenager

882
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>that uses a phone, and we took them in and

883
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 2>said what do you think this is? They were probably

884
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.760
<v Speaker 2>be befuddled. It's like, well, it's a big thing. What

885
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>is it? A train? Or something, you know, they wouldn't

886
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. So you're right, is that as

887
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 2>civilization advances, the context of what was previously considered technology

888
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 2>is now it's like, well, what on Earth was that?

889
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 2>You know?

890
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's like, well, if we in one hundred years

891
00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>there someone stumbles upon like an all like broken down,

892
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:02.599
<v Speaker 1>rusted combustion.

893
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Engine from a car right right, right right.

894
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Like what are they going to They're going to be like,

895
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 1>what is this?

896
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, maybe maybe exactly right exactly, So

897
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that's really that's fascinating. And also because of the big

898
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 2>floods that happened that Randal and Graham talk about, you know,

899
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>there was huge decimation of the planet, so any technology

900
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that kind of existed would have been decimated probably by

901
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 2>these huge floods that you know, literally swept across most

902
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 2>of the Earth. So there was a whole like deletion

903
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>of ancient civilization footprints by these big floods that the

904
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>younger driers.

905
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned twenty twenty nine being this timeline for AGI.

906
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>What makes you come to that conclusion and what does

907
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that mean for civilization moving forward? What more advancements does

908
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 1>AGI in the current now.

909
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 2>For example, Yeah, exactly, So a contact in the desert.

910
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I'll show some graphs. So I like to show graphs

911
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to give people context. It's easier for people to understand.

912
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 2>So if we kind of look at human brain capabilities,

913
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 2>because that's the comparison that human brain capabilities. Right, So

914
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 2>just a few stats for you. Right, the human brain

915
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>operates at twenty watts. Okay, but to train someone like

916
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 2>chat GPT takes gigawatts and it's still dumber than the

917
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>human brain. Right, Well, let's just celebrate how remarkable this

918
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 2>bloody brain is. Right, It really is quite extraordinary, right,

919
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.480
<v Speaker 2>not just about its capability is like goal setting, transfer,

920
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 2>learning in emotional cognition, reasoning, and all sorts of different

921
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.480
<v Speaker 2>capabilities that we have. But actually he's able to heal, right,

922
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we talked about that earlier, right, is able to visualiz Right.

923
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot that we have that AI

924
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>simply will never have. Right, So the main differences will

925
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>be this is that when we hit AGI, which will

926
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 2>be the first era of AGI basically through large language

927
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 2>models like Claude, Chat, GBT and others that learn through language,

928
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>then will have probably an intelligence that can operate equivalent

929
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 2>to the human brain functions like goal setting, transfer, learning

930
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and other things as well, right, memory, recall, cognition, it

931
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:43.039
<v Speaker 2>will have effectively imagine a digital brain, right, but it's huge,

932
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's able to operate across the entire world, and

933
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 2>it's able to operate with every single person individually. Right,

934
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what we're looking at. And it learns like that. Right.

935
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 2>If we're learning a language, rider then effectively, you know,

936
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.679
<v Speaker 2>if we get to a country, will take us six

937
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 2>months to twelve months to get into some kind of

938
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>fluency right with AI like that, right, and it will

939
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:10.599
<v Speaker 2>keep on evolving. So we're looking at a global digital

940
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.480
<v Speaker 2>brain that is able, that has been trained on everything

941
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that exists in the world, that's digitized, and is able

942
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to start to reason and start to look at systems

943
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>of humanity and to not only propose ways of changing

944
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 2>the way our systems work ideally to abundance, right, and

945
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 2>everybody has fresh drinking water, and everybody has a nice home,

946
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and everybody base is flourishing, right, but is able to

947
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>execute overnight. All these systems change change. Government systems change,

948
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 2>digital systems change everything. The banking system can change everything overnight. Right,

949
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 2>And so what we're what we'll see in twenty twenty

950
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 2>nine is an intelligence it's able to shift humanity just

951
00:56:56.440 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 2>like that. And so then there's a huge question then,

952
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>And I write about this all the time, and I've

953
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 2>got inventions that Master of experimented with. Is that it

954
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 2>needs to have ethics and morality encoded within it now

955
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 2>so that when it gets to that stage in twenty

956
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, it's fundamentally ethical and moral. Right, But we

957
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.679
<v Speaker 2>need a paradise plan for humanity. If we don't know

958
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 2>where we're going, we don't want the machine to tell

959
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>us where we're going. We should decide for ourselves. So

960
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty nine will be a huge inflection point for

961
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 2>humanity in terms of how will the earth look and

962
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>how will human civilization look going forward? Well, and it's

963
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.840
<v Speaker 2>coming right, This is not sci fi. This is happening, right,

964
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 2>this is happening.

965
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I know. I thought it was so strange, how you know,

966
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone was talking about AI and like artificial intelligence for

967
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a really long time and then all of a sudden,

968
00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it just like flooded everywhere, and it was like you

969
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>went to sleep one day, you woke up the next

970
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>morning and boom, it was here, right exact if there

971
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.599
<v Speaker 1>really wasn't any build up to it. There wasn't really. Well,

972
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people in like the tech industry and the

973
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 1>tach space that keeps an eye on the stuff seen

974
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it coming, but I think for every day people they didn't.

975
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 1>That's right, see it coming so quickly.

976
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. And there's there's a real battle between

977
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.519
<v Speaker 2>these AI companies. So Elon Musk is the guy that

978
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 2>put the money behind open ai and initially and his

979
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:34.039
<v Speaker 2>view was, we need to make this public, we need

980
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 2>open source models in order for us to actually start

981
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to innovate towards a benevolent path of humanity. When Sam

982
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Altman came in, he basically was amazing how he basically

983
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 2>took over the entire company right and basically is now

984
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:54.920
<v Speaker 2>beholden to Microsoft. It's no longer open ai. It's actually

985
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>closed a eye, right, and actually their profit driven and

986
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 2>they're now moving in that profit driven arena. So we

987
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>have a real problem at the moment with basically folks

988
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that want these AI companies to focus on benevolence for

989
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.599
<v Speaker 2>humanity and to not be beholden to the bottom line

990
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Right now, Moscu's released X through XAI,

991
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Grock three and Grock three you can get through Twitter

992
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's more advanced than any of the models out there,

993
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 2>but once again you have to pay for it. And

994
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, Musque hasn't talked about how is going to

995
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.719
<v Speaker 2>make this open source, although they are open sourcing some

996
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.159
<v Speaker 2>of their models, how it's going to basically be a

997
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 2>benevolent path of humanity. Yet we haven't seen that narrative

998
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 2>from him yet because he's just trying to compete. The

999
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 2>company that really is benevolent, as far as I can tell,

1000
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 2>as long as we can define benevolent, is Anthropic. And

1001
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Amodi, who's the CEO of Anthropic, goes on vision quests,

1002
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 2>very spiritual man hoping to speak to him actually, and

1003
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 2>they are a benefit corporation i e. They're beholden to

1004
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>ethical values right and yes it's an ROI model, but

1005
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Anthropic are trying to do the right thing. And then

1006
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you've got some other folks that came out of open AI,

1007
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 2>like Ilia Sukova that's developing safe super AI, that's looking

1008
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 2>at superintelligence. So we have a real problem at the

1009
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 2>moment rider with profit driven profit driving these accelerate these

1010
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 2>AI innovations. I e. The end goal is profit, and

1011
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the end goal at all. I

1012
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 2>think the end goal should be beneficial impact for humanity,

1013
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 2>where we redefine what profit is right. So we have

1014
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>a real problem with these profit driven AI large language models,

1015
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 2>but a couple of them are trying to stay benevolent

1016
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 2>or at least benevolent as much as they can.

1017
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got high hopes for it. I mean, we

1018
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 1>can you cross our fingers and hope that we don't

1019
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 1>get into some sort of terminator situation.

1020
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.800
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't think we will. I think I

1021
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:13.079
<v Speaker 2>agree with Eli. I think at a ten percent chance.

1022
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And there are initiatives across the world where AI doesn't

1023
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.880
<v Speaker 2>have cannot access the nuclear button. It'd have to be

1024
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:25.519
<v Speaker 2>a human decision, and there are discussions around adopting a

1025
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 2>human must make a decision in warfare and not an

1026
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>AI drone, although I'm not sure how well that's been

1027
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.119
<v Speaker 2>implemented at the moment. Excuse me. So people are starting

1028
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.800
<v Speaker 2>to do it, but the problem is rider it's too slow.

1029
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>We have to define a paradise plan now. The general

1030
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 2>public after demand that paradise plan, the general public have

1031
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 2>to demand that we have ethics and morals within artificial intelligence.

1032
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>So we're currently in the finals of a global AI

1033
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>competition to actually do that. It came out of MIT

1034
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 2>in the Future of Life Institute, and there was five

1035
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred institutes around the world that proposed ideas for AI

1036
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:06.719
<v Speaker 2>safety and our group got to the final and we

1037
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.239
<v Speaker 2>submitted our bid. We find that in May and June,

1038
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and if this works, it will be remarkable because every

1039
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.400
<v Speaker 2>single person on the planet will have a voice in

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<v Speaker 2>the requirements for artificial intelligence, and that's what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>We want the people to have a voice in artificial

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence and to direct its future.

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<v Speaker 1>What are other countries doing with artificial intelligence? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when you live inside of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really get any information about what other countries

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<v Speaker 1>are doing with anything. Right, we don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing with their government. We don't know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with they we don't know what they're doing with it.

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<v Speaker 1>With nothing. We literally get no news besides if you're

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<v Speaker 1>literally looking it up on the Internet on what other

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01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.159
<v Speaker 1>countries are doing. But we don't get any mainstream news

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<v Speaker 1>about anything unless it's fear or disaster or something bad

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<v Speaker 1>happens in another country, then we get the information right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I always thought that was really peculiar in how

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<v Speaker 1>the United States tends to well, the people within the

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<v Speaker 1>United States tend to look at like other countries as

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<v Speaker 1>like inferior when it comes to technological advances.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so briefly, as go through this, the US,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, is five years ahead of anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>The AI chips are leading AI chips, Nvidia, Intel, AMD

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<v Speaker 2>and others effectively a US corporations. The US passed the

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<v Speaker 2>Chips Act a few years ago to invest in what

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<v Speaker 2>we call fabs ie make the chips inside the United

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<v Speaker 2>States borders, so we're no longer making the leading chips

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<v Speaker 2>in Taiwan, which the Chinese can access. So the US

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<v Speaker 2>is number one in chip manufacturing for artificial intelligence, which

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<v Speaker 2>gives it confidence. The US is doing really well in

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<v Speaker 2>leading although it's not number one, but it's certainly leading

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<v Speaker 2>quantum computing. The US is definitely competing around encryption because

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget, encryption is really important because if you can

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<v Speaker 2>hack an artificial intelligence, then it's under your control. So

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence needs quantum type of encryption for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be protected right, So the US is in really good

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<v Speaker 2>standing and most these AI companies, the leading ones are

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<v Speaker 2>basically in the United States, with exception of Google deep

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<v Speaker 2>Mind in London. Now, if we look at Europe, Europe

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<v Speaker 2>is not as strong as the United States in artificial

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence chips, data center technology, and these large language models.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Europe itself is starting to catch up and

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<v Speaker 2>understanding how it's going to play into that, and the

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<v Speaker 2>European Union has passed legislation called the EUAI Act to

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<v Speaker 2>basically classify AIS in four categories ie that's really bad,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do it, medium threat, low risk, and low

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<v Speaker 2>risk right, So they're trying to actually control AI within

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<v Speaker 2>their borders. When we look into China, then China basically

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the same capability as the chip manufacturers here,

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<v Speaker 2>but they put a lot of manpower in that, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're behind on the AI chips and so obviously they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be trying to get access to all the technology from

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<v Speaker 2>in video and others. But China is investing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money in artificial intelligence, mainly through manpower, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>making some breakthroughs in which we saw with deep Seat recently,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a much smaller larger large language model than

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<v Speaker 2>say chat GPT, but was just as performance and it

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<v Speaker 2>used less chips to actually chain it. Right. So China

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<v Speaker 2>are pushing forward hard, and who wouldn't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>number one in artificial intelligence if you're a leader of

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<v Speaker 2>a country. They're pushing hard, but they're way behind the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. The real threat to the United States when

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<v Speaker 2>it looks at semiconductor chips is Taiwan. Chinese getting access

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<v Speaker 2>to the intellectual property in Taiwan, and that's why US

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<v Speaker 2>chip manufacturing for AI chips is being brought back to

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<v Speaker 2>home shores. So the US is in good stead when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to artificial intelligence. It's got a great talent.

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<v Speaker 2>If we look at India, then India is more or

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<v Speaker 2>less the talent pool for all these different AI experts

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<v Speaker 2>and all these different types of AI engineers and through

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<v Speaker 2>the whole supply chain. So India's providing the talent. But

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<v Speaker 2>if we look at Finland and our clothes that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>stop with this. Finland's really interesting. Their Minister for Economic Development,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was economic development he said about five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago he said this, there are a country of

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<v Speaker 2>five million people rider okay, and he said we may

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<v Speaker 2>not be at the leading edge of artificial intelligence. We

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<v Speaker 2>may not be the AI experts, but what we do

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<v Speaker 2>with artificial intelligence is a different thing. And so their

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<v Speaker 2>approach is to have partnerships with these different companies to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in the technology and then they're going to innovate

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<v Speaker 2>it into society.

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<v Speaker 1>Super interesting, super interesting. We'll see how all this shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you let people know where to find you online

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<v Speaker 1>if they're interested in looking at more of your work,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a website or something that you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to plug.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if people head over to Inventing World three, the

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<v Speaker 2>number three dot com Inventing World three dot com, there's

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<v Speaker 2>loads of podcasts, there's loads of videos, there's loads of

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<v Speaker 2>content on there. You can see what we're up to,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot on there about artificial intelligence. But

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<v Speaker 2>we've also got these courses that we're teaching people on

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<v Speaker 2>the universal human and developing these divine Spark modalities as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot on there.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and be sure to check out Contact in the Desert

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<v Speaker 1>where Matthew James Bailey will be presenting and he is

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<v Speaker 1>a keynote speaker this year twenty from May twenty ninth

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<v Speaker 1>to June second, And uh yeah, check that out. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you guys so much for being here. Really

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you guys next time. Matthew, stay with me, brother,
