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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine looking up at the night sky, I mean really

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<v Speaker 2>looking and asking that huge question, what's the ultimate fate

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<v Speaker 2>of well.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything, It's the biggest question really.

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<v Speaker 2>For decades, the answer seemed pretty set, if a bit

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<v Speaker 2>uh chilling. The universe is expanding faster and faster.

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<v Speaker 3>Right heading towards this sort of cold, dark, lonely end,

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<v Speaker 3>driven by this mysterious anti gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff dark energy. Yeah, but what if what if the

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<v Speaker 2>very measurements that led us there had a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hidden flaw, a systematic bias. What if everything we thought

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<v Speaker 2>we knew about the future of the cosmos is suddenly well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what we're digging into today.

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<v Speaker 2>We are diving into a challenge to a cosmological idea

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<v Speaker 2>that's been around for what thirty years?

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<v Speaker 3>About that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's a challenge so deep it basically pulls

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<v Speaker 2>the rugout from under the discovery that won the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven Nobel Prize in physics.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does question that foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this new, really meticulously researched study suggesting the universe

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<v Speaker 2>isn't speeding up anymore. Might have actually switched gears and

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<v Speaker 2>started slowing down right now today.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is a huge turnaround.

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<v Speaker 2>So our mission today is to unpack these frankly remarkable findings.

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<v Speaker 2>It all seems to hinge on correcting a subtle, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>but absolutely critical, systematic bias in one of astronomy's most

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<v Speaker 2>trusted tools.

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<v Speaker 3>The type IA supernova, the standard candle exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And this isn't just tweaking a number here or there.

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<v Speaker 2>This could fundamentally you write the cosmic timeline and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>change our whole understanding of the dominant force in the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating because of the sheer scale of what might

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<v Speaker 3>need reorienting. We're talking about dark energy, yeah, Mysteryes, this

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<v Speaker 3>unseen influence that makes up what roughly seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 3>everything in the universe. Our standard picture, the Lambda cold

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<v Speaker 3>dark matter model or SCDM for short. It's built on

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<v Speaker 3>one massive assumption that dark energy is a cosmological constant.

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<v Speaker 3>Its strength never changes, it's just there, uniformly dense through

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<v Speaker 3>space and.

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<v Speaker 2>Time like a background hum kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>But now we've got evidence, pretty robust evidence, actually suggesting

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<v Speaker 3>that this foundational pillar might be seriously flawed. Well, the

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<v Speaker 3>analysis shows that what we interpreted purely as a cosmological effect,

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<v Speaker 3>this accelerated expansion, might actually be tangled up with stellar astrophysics,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically how stars age.

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<v Speaker 2>So not just space stretching, but the stars themselves exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It means our note isn't just evolving, it's being fundamentally reoriented.

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<v Speaker 3>By looking really carefully at the data we already have,

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<v Speaker 3>you really can't overstate the implications if you start questioning

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<v Speaker 3>the gold standard of cosmic measurement like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's definitely unpack that ranting cosmology first, because to

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<v Speaker 2>grasp how big this challenge is, we need to understand

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<v Speaker 2>the foundation it's questioning. Let's go back to the mid

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and that incredible discovery announced in ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Right before then, the expectation was pretty straightforward. You have

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Bang, this initial huge expansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen pointy eight billion years ago roughly right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then gravity, you know, the poll of all the matter,

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<v Speaker 3>should have been putting the brakes on, slowing the expansion down.

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<v Speaker 2>And for billions of years that seemed to be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>It was gravity was in charge. The universe was sort

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<v Speaker 2>But then something changed exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Two independent teams of astronomers, the Supernova Cosmology Project and

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<v Speaker 3>the Heisy Supernova Search Team. They were using distance measurements

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing the universe as it was long.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, precisely, and their results were shocking. Around nine billion

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<v Speaker 3>years after the Big Bang, something flipped. The slowdown stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa Okay, yeah, whoa.

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<v Speaker 3>Was about right. That accelerating push needed an explanation, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>To overcome gravity's constant pull, you needed something pushing back,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what God called dark energy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. It acts like this anti gravity, pushing distant

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<v Speaker 3>galaxies away faster and faster. And this discovery, based on

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<v Speaker 3>using these distant supernovae as cosmic mile markers, was so revolutionary. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it deservedly won the twenty eleven Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 2>And really cement to the idea that the universe was

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<v Speaker 2>accelerating and would just keep doing so forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Key measuring tool for all of this was the Type

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<v Speaker 2>EA supernova. Why were they considered so reliable? Why the

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<v Speaker 3>They were thought to be Anyway, there, your idea is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty neat. Type A supernovae happen in binary star systems.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a white dwarf, which is a dense remnant

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<v Speaker 3>It's called about one point four times the mass of

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes unstable and just boom, catastrophically detonates.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Okay, So the trigger is always the same mass.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the crucial assumption. Because the explosion mechanism was

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<v Speaker 3>thought to be identical every time hitting that specific critical mass,

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<v Speaker 3>astronomers assume these explosions would have a highly uniform intrinsic brightness,

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<v Speaker 3>their absolute magnitude would always be the same, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, you have a perfect one hundred white light.

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<v Speaker 3>Bulb exactly if you know it's true wattage, it's intrinsic brightness.

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<v Speaker 2>The dimmer it appears the farther away. It must be

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<v Speaker 2>simple physics, That was the prince.

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<v Speaker 3>So when astronomers looked at these really distant type Ia supernovae,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones with high redshift that exploded billions of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>they found they were significantly dimmer than you'd expect if

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<v Speaker 3>the universe was just decelerating or even.

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<v Speaker 2>Coasting, dimmer than they should have been, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And the interpretation of that unexpected dimness was purely cosmological,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning The thinking went like this, They looked dimmer mostly

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<v Speaker 3>because space itself is expanding faster, carrying these distant galaxies

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<v Speaker 3>away from us more quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>So the light gets stretched out more diluted by the

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<v Speaker 2>accelerating expansion between us and them.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, more distance, more acceleration meant more dimness, and that

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<v Speaker 3>required some kind of constant, pervasive repulsive force pushing everything apart.

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<v Speaker 2>Dark energy the cosmological.

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<v Speaker 3>Constant exactly, and that's how we landed on the consensus

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<v Speaker 3>view the MLCDM model. The universe is still accelerating today

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<v Speaker 3>and dark energy is constant. Its strength doesn't change.

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<v Speaker 3>dark energy, often written as W is a seam to

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<v Speaker 3>be exactly minus one.

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<v Speaker 2>W eagles minus one, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And W reals one means the dark energy density is constant.

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<v Speaker 3>It behaves exactly like Einstein's cosmological constant Lambda. And that

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<v Speaker 3>constancy that W egles one is the core pillar that's

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that brings us right to the new evidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where the science seems to be finding cracks

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<v Speaker 2>in that seemingly perfect standard candle. This work comes from

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<v Speaker 2>Professor Young Wook Lee and his team at yonse University, published.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently yes in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Their core idea is well, it sounds simple, but the

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<v Speaker 2>implications are huge. Type IA supernovae are not perfect standard candles.

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<v Speaker 2>Their brightness is strongly systematically affected by the age and crucially,

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<v Speaker 2>the chemical makeup the metallicity of the stars that blew up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that has nothing to do with how far away

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<v Speaker 3>This is the subtle point that potential changes the whole

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic calculation. See Astronomers already knew supernova weren't perfectly identical.

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<v Speaker 3>They applied corrections luminosity standardizations based on how quickly the

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<v Speaker 3>light curve faded, the stretch and its color.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, trying to iron out the small differences exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Yonce team showed that even after you apply

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<v Speaker 3>those standard corrections, something else still matters a lot, the

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<v Speaker 3>underlying stellar population, the age and the metallicity, the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of heavy elements in the stars that eventually became that

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so explain the systematic bias. How does age or

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<v Speaker 2>metallicity mess with the brightness.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's break it down. Think about the early universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Stars formed back then, and stars in younger star forming

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<v Speaker 3>regions today tend to be metal poor. They have fewer

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<v Speaker 3>elements heavier than hydrogen and helium. Okay, The finding is this,

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<v Speaker 3>When a type EA supernova comes from one of these

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<v Speaker 3>younger metal poor stellar populations, that supernova appears systematically fainter,

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<v Speaker 3>intrinsically dimmer than its cousins from older populations. And conversely, conversely,

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<v Speaker 3>supernovae that come from older, more metal rich populations like

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<v Speaker 3>you'd find in more evolve galaxies appear systematically brighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, why why would the amount of metal or

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<v Speaker 2>the age of the system change the brightness of an

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<v Speaker 2>explosion that's supposed to be triggered at exactly the same

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<v Speaker 2>mass that one point four solar mass limit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the key stellar astrophysics question they seem to have answered.

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<v Speaker 3>The leading theory relates to how metallicity affects the progenitor system.

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<v Speaker 3>In environments with fewer heavy elements, the winds from the

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<v Speaker 3>companion star might be different. Maybe the structure of the

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<v Speaker 3>white dwarf itself just before it explodes is subtly altered.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that change the boom?

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to affect the thermonuclear runaway, the explosion physics itself. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>a lower metallicity environment seems to lead to a lower

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<v Speaker 3>yield of radioactive nickel fifty six during the explosion.

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<v Speaker 2>Nickel fifty six that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Important, critically important. Nickel fifty six decays into cobalt fifty six,

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<v Speaker 3>and that radioactive decay chain is what primarily powers the

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<v Speaker 3>peak brightness of the supernova's visible light. So less nickel

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<v Speaker 3>means less fuel for the light.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, meaning less intrinsic brightness.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, a metal poor younger system produces a less bright explosion,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it started from the same mass trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, So the implication for cosmology is if you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking way back in time at the most distant supernovae.

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<v Speaker 3>The ones used to prove acceleration, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You were inherently looking at younger stellar populations from a

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<v Speaker 2>time when the universe was less chemically.

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<v Speaker 3>Enriched, correct, less metal rich overall.

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<v Speaker 2>So those distant supernovae were already intrinsically functor to begin with,

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<v Speaker 2>just because of when and where they were born.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the core argument. They look dimmer for two reasons. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>go due to this stellar age metallicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Bias, which means the amount of dimness we blamed entirely

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<v Speaker 2>on acceleration might.

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<v Speaker 3>Be significantly overestimated. Part of that dimness is just astrophysics,

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<v Speaker 3>not cosmology. It weakens the case that acceleration alone caused

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<v Speaker 2>That makes a lot of sense. But hang on, if

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<v Speaker 2>this effect is real, how did the original Nobel winning

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<v Speaker 2>studies miss it? Was there data not good.

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<v Speaker 3>To really nail down this bias, you need to accurately

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<v Speaker 3>The Yonse team used a much larger, more modern sample

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<v Speaker 2>So they did detailed demographic studies of three hundred different

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to put it. And this much larger,

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<v Speaker 2>Trend, and the confidence level that's the kicker.

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<v Speaker 3>They confirm this age bias exists at an extremely high

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, ninety nine point nine nine nine percent. That's basically certain.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's where it gets really interesting. Then this finding

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<v Speaker 2>actually arises in a significant way from stellar astrophysics from

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<v Speaker 3>Itself, and that connects the dots directly back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so when you apply this correction, this ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>point nine nine nine percent certain correction, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the drawing board with the data, right,

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<v Speaker 2>see what the universe actually looks like according to these

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you have to revisit the historical data and see

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<v Speaker 2>And what do they tell them. Did the corrected data

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's the crucial point. The researchers took the raw

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<v Speaker 3>supernova data, specifically using large data sets like the Dark

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<v Speaker 2>Model, the one with constant dark energy W equals one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and unsurprisingly, the corrected supernova data no longer matched

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<v Speaker 2>How did they show that visually? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>then the data points on this plot after the standard

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<v Speaker 2>And did they before this new correction?

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<v Speaker 3>Big difference. Corrected data points showed a clear significant systematic

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<v Speaker 3>The corrected data traces a curve that deviates significantly from

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<v Speaker 2>A curve meaning that deviation isn't random, It changes with distance.

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<v Speaker 3>Or time exactly, and that deviation immediately tells you that

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<v Speaker 3>the cosmological constant model Lambda is probably wrong. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>So if the standard model is out, what does fit

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<v Speaker 2>the corrected data better?

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<v Speaker 3>The corrected data aligns much much better with models where

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<v Speaker 3>dark energy is not constant. Instead, the data supports models

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<v Speaker 3>energy actually weakens and evolves significantly over cosmic time.

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<v Speaker 2>So WOM isn't stuck at minus one exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It suggests w is dynamic. Maybe it was more negative

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, driving acceleration, but perhaps today it's slightly

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<v Speaker 3>greater than minus one, indicating a force that's decaying, losing

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<v Speaker 2>You know this sounds familiar, haven't There been other hints

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<v Speaker 2>recently that dark energy might not be constant.

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<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right. This fits with growing evidence from other

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<v Speaker 2>Like the DCESI project.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. Just last year, results from the Dark Energy Spectroscopic

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<v Speaker 2>So DCII was seen potential evolution in W two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, their data derived from these large scale structure patterns

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<v Speaker 3>pointed towards a dynamic w So the idea of evolving

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<v Speaker 3>dark energy wasn't completely out of the blue. But this

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<v Speaker 3>corrected supernova data provides really strong independent confirmation. It brings

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<v Speaker 3>the supernova measurements into alignment with those other hints.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so bringing it all together, the correct and supernova

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<v Speaker 2>may be combined with other data. What's the bottom line

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<v Speaker 3>The bottom line, according to this analysis is that the

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<v Speaker 3>combined data rules out the standard CDM model with overwhelming significance.

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<v Speaker 2>Overwhelming significance, not just a maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this isn't a small statistical wabble they're reporting. It's

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<v Speaker 3>presented as a definitive rejection of the current consensus model

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<v Speaker 3>based on this corrected evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you reject the constant dark energy model, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to accept the alternative scenario that does fit the

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<v Speaker 3>It implies something truly profound. It means the universe is

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<v Speaker 3>not accelerating today as we've thought for the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Wait say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>The analysis suggests that universe has already passed peak acceleration.

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<v Speaker 3>It has transitioned into a state of decelerated expansion. It's

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<v Speaker 3>still expanding, but the rate of expansion is now decreasing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are currently living in a slowing universe.

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<v Speaker 3>According to these findings. Yes, Professor Lee stated it very clearly.

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<v Speaker 3>He said the universe has already entered a phase of

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<v Speaker 3>decelerated expansion at the present epic, and that dark energy

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<v Speaker 3>evolves much faster than previously thought.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a spleet reversal of the picture that won

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<v Speaker 3>It's a massive shift in perspective. The expansion is ongoing,

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<v Speaker 3>but gravity seems to be slowly winning the tug of

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible to think about these cosmic transition points. You

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<v Speaker 2>had the first nine billion years or so, gravity slowing

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<v Speaker 2>things down the iteration right then dark energy kicks in,

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<v Speaker 3>Acceleration the arrow we thought we were still in.

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<v Speaker 2>And now if this is right, because dark energy appears

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<v Speaker 2>on the largest scales, causing the expansion rate to slow

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<v Speaker 3>The dominance of forces seems to have flipped once more.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a much more dynamic cosmic history than the standard

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<v Speaker 2>What really gives this study punch, though, isn't just the

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<v Speaker 2>statistics on the age bias, right. It's how it clicks

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<v Speaker 2>with other measurements.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, that's perhaps the most compelling part. It's not just

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<v Speaker 3>the ninety nine point nine nine nine percent confidence the

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<v Speaker 3>correction itself, but the fact that when you apply this correction,

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<v Speaker 3>the supernova data suddenly aligns beautifully with independent ways of

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<v Speaker 3>measuring the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Methods that previously didn't quite line up with the supernova.

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<v Speaker 3>Result exactly, measurements that had been kind of quietly problematic

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about those independent data sets. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>models favored by projects like DSi, which used buryonic acoustic

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<v Speaker 2>oscillations BAO and the cosmic microwave background CMB, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Two pillars of modern cosmology completely independent of supernova.

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<v Speaker 2>We hear BAO and CMB mentioned a lot. Maybe, let's

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<v Speaker 2>quickly recap what they actually are, why they're reliable cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>Good idea. So the CMB the cosmic microwave background. That's

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<v Speaker 2>We can see the afterglow of the Big Bang pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the residual heat and light left over from about

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and eighty thousand years after the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 3>That was when the universe cooled down enough for electrons

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<v Speaker 2>Neutral atoms called recombination, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And that event essentially made the universe transparent to light

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time. So the CME gives us this

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<v Speaker 3>incredible snapshot of the universe when it was extremely young

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<v Speaker 3>and incredibly smooth, but with tiny temperature fluctuations. These fluctuations

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's the CNB a picture of the early universe.

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<v Speaker 2>What about BAO baryonic acoustic oscillations. Sounds complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>as this incredibly hot, dense soup a plasma of particles

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<v Speaker 3>in light got it. In the soup, you had gravity

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<v Speaker 3>trying to pull matter together into clumps, but you also

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<v Speaker 3>had intense radiation pressure from the light pushing outwards. These

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<v Speaker 3>two competing forces created ripples, actual sound waves or pressure

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<v Speaker 3>waves sloshing through the plasma, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound waves in air, but in the primordial soup.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly now, when recombination happened and the universe became transparent,

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<v Speaker 3>the light decoupled from the matter, and those sound waves

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<v Speaker 3>basically frozen place. They left behind a subtle imprint, slightly

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<v Speaker 3>denser shells of matter at a very specific, predictable distance

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<v Speaker 2>Ah a characteristic distance scale imprinted on the matter distribution.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, the size of these frozen spheres corresponds to how

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<v Speaker 3>far a sound wave could travel in the plasma before

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<v Speaker 3>recombination happened. We can calculate that distance called the sound

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<v Speaker 3>horizon from fundamental physics. It's a known quantity.

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<v Speaker 2>So it acts like a standard ruler.

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<v Speaker 3>A standard ruler exactly so today, when astronomers map the

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<v Speaker 3>for a slight statistical preference for galaxies to be separated

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<v Speaker 3>by that characteristic BAO distance.

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<v Speaker 2>They look for that bump and the correlation function at

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<v Speaker 2>that specific separation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one. And because we know the actual physical

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<v Speaker 3>size of that ruler sound horizon by observing its apparent

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<v Speaker 3>the expansion history of the universe completely independently of supernovae.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so BAO and CMB are powerful independent tools. How

431
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<v Speaker 2>does the corrected supernova data line up with them?

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's the key convergence. The conclusion from the corrected

433
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<v Speaker 3>supernova data that the universe is decelerating today agrees remarkably

434
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<v Speaker 3>well with what was independently predicted by analyzes using only

435
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<v Speaker 3>BAO data or BAO combined with CMB data.

436
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<v Speaker 2>So those other methods were already hinting at deceleration.

437
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<v Speaker 3>They were hinting at models that preferred deceleration today, or

438
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<v Speaker 3>at least were inconsistent with strong ongoing acceleration. But as

439
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<v Speaker 3>Professor Lee pointed out, this alignment had previously received little attention,

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<v Speaker 3>primarily because the uncorrected supernova data, which everyone trusted as

441
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<v Speaker 3>the gold standard, pointed so strongly in the other direction

442
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<v Speaker 3>towards continued acceleration. The discrepancy was usually blamed on potential

443
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<v Speaker 3>issues with the BAOCMB analysis, not the supernova.

444
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<v Speaker 2>But now the tables have turned.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly Now that the supernova data itself has been refined

446
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<v Speaker 3>and corrected for this well motivated stellar age bias, all

447
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<v Speaker 3>three major lines of evidence corrected supernova, BAO, and CMB

448
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<v Speaker 3>seem to converge. They all point towards the same picture,

449
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<v Speaker 3>a universe slowing down today driven by a dark energy

450
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<v Speaker 3>that is weakening over time.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of conversience from independent methods is incredibly powerful

452
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<v Speaker 2>in science, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the strongest validation you can hope for. It suggests

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<v Speaker 3>the age bias correction isn't just some statistical fluke, but

455
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<v Speaker 3>reflects a real physical effect that brings different cosmic probes

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<v Speaker 3>into agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>And this convergence also helps with another big headache and cosmology,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hubble tension.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it potentially offers a significant step towards resolving the

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<v Speaker 3>Hubble tension.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind us what that is again?

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<v Speaker 3>The Hubble tension is this persistent and statistically significant disagreement

463
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<v Speaker 3>about a ten percent difference between measurements of the universe's

464
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<v Speaker 3>current expansion rate. The Hubble constant age air.

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<v Speaker 2>A disagreement between which measurements.

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<v Speaker 3>Between measurements derived from the early universe, primarily the CMB

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<v Speaker 3>data analyzed within the standard CDM model and measurements made

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<v Speaker 3>in the local or late time universe, which heavily rely

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<v Speaker 3>on things like Type IA supernovae to build the cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>distance ladder.

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<v Speaker 2>So early universe measurements give one value for age, late

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<v Speaker 2>universe measurements give a higher value.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, and the discrepancy is statistically significant, meaning it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 3>to be just random error. Now, think about it. If

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<v Speaker 3>the foundation of that late time measurement, the Type EA

476
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<v Speaker 3>supernova distance scale, was systematically flawed.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we thought they were brighter than they actually were,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the distant ones due to the age bias.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly if they were intrinsically fainter, then our distance calculations

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<v Speaker 3>based on their apparent dimness were systematically underestimating their true.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Distances, making them seem closer, which inflates the calculated expansion

482
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<v Speaker 2>rate decily.

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<v Speaker 3>If the distances were wrong, the local h heros derive

484
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<v Speaker 3>using them would appear artificially high. By recalibrating the supernova

485
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<v Speaker 3>distances using this age bias correction, their inferred distances should increase,

486
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<v Speaker 3>bringing the late time AHRO measurement down, potentially closing the

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<v Speaker 3>gap with the early universe value derived from the CMB.

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<v Speaker 2>So, fixing the standard candle doesn't just change the future

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<v Speaker 2>fate of the universe. It helps reconcile its past and

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<v Speaker 2>present expansion rates.

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<v Speaker 3>It has the potential to do both. Yes, it addresses

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<v Speaker 3>a fundamental calibration issue that ripples through cosmology.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, to be absolutely sure about this, the Yonce team

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just resting on this correction, right, They're planning more tests.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. They're already working on what they call an

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<v Speaker 3>evolution free test.

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<v Speaker 2>Evolution free how does that work?

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually a really clever way to directly test their hypothesis.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of trying to mathematically correct for the age bias,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to eliminate it from the sample selection itself. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they are selecting supernovae by only comparing explosions that happen

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<v Speaker 3>in host galaxies of the same relative age coeval galaxies,

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<v Speaker 3>but across the full range of cosmic distances.

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<v Speaker 2>Redshifts ah So comparing apples to apples young stellar populations

505
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<v Speaker 2>only with other young stellar populations old with old exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>By comparing like with like across cosmic time, they aim

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<v Speaker 3>to remove the age menallicity evolution as a confounding variable

508
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<v Speaker 3>in the distance measurement entirely. If their hypothesis is right,

509
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<v Speaker 3>this evolution free sample should still show the deceleration trend

510
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<v Speaker 3>even without applying the correction factor.

511
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<v Speaker 2>And are they getting results from that yet?

512
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<v Speaker 3>The paper mentions that early results from this evolution free

513
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<v Speaker 3>test already seem to support their main conclusion, reinforcing the

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<v Speaker 3>deceleration picture. But to really put the nail in the

515
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<v Speaker 3>coffin methodologically speaking, they need much much more data, an

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<v Speaker 3>explosion of new data, you might say, yeah, quite literally

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<v Speaker 3>in this case. And that's where the next generation of

518
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<v Speaker 3>astronomical observatories comes in. Specifically, the Verice Ruben Observator me.

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<v Speaker 2>The new big telescope in Chili exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's locating in the Chile, and Andes just recently began

521
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<v Speaker 3>at scientific operations, and it houses the world's most powerful

522
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<v Speaker 3>digital camera. Its main job, the Legacy Survey of Space

523
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<v Speaker 3>and Time LSST, is to repeatedly map the entire southern

524
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<v Speaker 3>sky over ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to find a lot of supernovae.

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<v Speaker 3>An unprecedented number. Crucially for this topic, the Ruben Observatory

527
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<v Speaker 3>is expected to discover and characterize Type IA supernovae with

528
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<v Speaker 3>incredible speed and precision. We're talking potentially tens of thousands of.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Them, tens of thousands compared to the hundreds used in

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<v Speaker 2>current studies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the estimates are that within the next five years

532
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<v Speaker 3>or so, Ruben could discover and provide detailed host galaxy

533
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<v Speaker 3>information for more than twenty thousand new supernova host galaxies.

534
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>This enormous data set, combined with Ruben's ability to get

536
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<v Speaker 3>really precise measurements of the host galaxy properties, their ages,

537
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<v Speaker 3>their metallicities, will allow for what the Yance researchers themselves

538
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<v Speaker 3>call a far more robust and definitive test of supernova cosmology.

539
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<v Speaker 2>So this is really the moment of truth coming up

540
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<v Speaker 2>in the next few years.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. We will finally have the statistical power

542
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<v Speaker 3>and the detailed data needed to either absolutely confirm this

543
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<v Speaker 3>age bias correction and the resulting deceleration, or perhaps find

544
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<v Speaker 3>nuances or flaws in the theory. The data will decide.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's assume for a moment it is confirmed. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the biggest, broadest implications for how we understand the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. If confirmed, it's arguably the most significant paradigm shift

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<v Speaker 3>in cosmology since dark energy itself was discovered nearly three

549
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<v Speaker 3>decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge statement it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, as we discussed, it potentially resolves the nagging Hubble

552
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<v Speaker 3>tension by fixing the fundamental distant scale calibration.

553
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<v Speaker 2>That's big, okay.

554
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<v Speaker 3>Secondly, and perhaps more profoundly, for the ultimate fate of

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<v Speaker 3>the universe, it gives us crucial clues about the physical

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<v Speaker 3>nature of dark energy itself. How so, because if the

557
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<v Speaker 3>universe is decelerating today, dark energy simply cannot be the

558
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<v Speaker 3>simple unchanging cosmological constant described by ACDM, where W is

559
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<v Speaker 3>forever fixed at mextion one. It must be something dynamic,

560
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<v Speaker 3>something transient, something that weakens over cosmic time.

561
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<v Speaker 2>So it's not a constant property of space, but more

562
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<v Speaker 2>like a field or force that's fading away.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the implication. It shifts our focus dramatically. Instead of

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about a static constant energy density filling space, we

565
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<v Speaker 3>have to consider a dynamic, evolving component of the cosmos,

566
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<v Speaker 3>one whose influence peaked in the past and is now waning.

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<v Speaker 3>Allowing gravity to gradually regain dominance on cosmic scales.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's try and pull this all together. Then recap

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<v Speaker 2>the core argument that's challenging well thirty years of cosmological thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>We started with the assumption the bedrock really that type

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<v Speaker 2>I is supernovae were perfect standard candles, uniform brightness everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>every time, the.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred wah bulbs of the cosmos exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is ssumption. Let us, via observations of their

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<v Speaker 2>unexpected dimness at great distances, to conclude the universe was accelerating,

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<v Speaker 2>driven by a constant dark energy CDM. That was the picture. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>new research, backed by this incredibly high ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 2>nine nine nine percent confidence level, shows those candles are

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<v Speaker 2>actually flawed. There's a systematic bias linked to the age

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<v Speaker 2>and metallicity of the stars that explode.

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<v Speaker 3>Younger metal poor systems produce intrinsically fainter supernovae.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and when you correct for that bias, the picture flips.

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<v Speaker 2>The corrected data suggests the universes no longer accelerating, but

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<v Speaker 2>has actually transitioned to a state of deceleration right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, improving or strongly suggesting that dark energy isn't constant.

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<v Speaker 3>It weakens, It evolves over time.

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<v Speaker 2>So this isn't just some academic debate about cosmic speed limits,

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<v Speaker 2>is it. It fundamentally changes the story of our universe's

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate destiny.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, It's about the end game for all matter and energy.

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<v Speaker 3>If dark energy's nature is changing, if it's weakening, then

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<v Speaker 3>the end might not be the endless, cold, accelerating expansion,

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<v Speaker 3>the so called big rip or eternal heat death that

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<v Speaker 3>the standard model predicted.

595
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<v Speaker 2>So the universe doesn't necessarily rip itself apart or fade

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<v Speaker 2>into cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Darkness, that scenario becomes much less certain. Knowing how dark

598
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<v Speaker 3>energy evolves, how quickly its weakening, becomes absolutely essential for

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<v Speaker 3>predicting the future, especially if gravity is indeed starting to

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<v Speaker 3>win the cosmic tug of war.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, If dark energy is weakening and the universe is

602
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<v Speaker 2>already slowing down, where does that road lead? Does expansion

603
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<v Speaker 2>just stop?

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<v Speaker 3>It could the focus shifts completely away from runaway expansion.

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<v Speaker 3>If the density of this evolving dark energy continues to drop,

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<v Speaker 3>Theoretically it could eventually fall below the average density of

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<v Speaker 3>regular matter and dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter, and then gravity really takes over.

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<v Speaker 3>Then gravity would be the undisputed dominant force on cosmic scales.

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<v Speaker 3>Deceleration would continue potentially until the expansion halts entirely and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Reverses reversus meaning contraction.

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning the universe could start collapsing back in on itself,

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<v Speaker 3>heading to towards an eventual recollapse.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go from worrying about big rip to potentially

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<v Speaker 2>facing a big crunch like the old cyclical universe ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the dramatic alternative that re enters the realm of possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>If this evolving dark energy model is correct. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>the source material hinted at related research suggesting the universe

619
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<v Speaker 3>might end in a big crunch around thirty three billion

620
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<v Speaker 3>years from now. Yeah, well, that kind of scenario suddenly

621
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<v Speaker 3>moves from speculative fiction back into the arena of scientifically

622
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<v Speaker 3>plausible futures depending on exactly how dark energy behaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Which leads to a final thought for people to chew on.

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<v Speaker 3>If deceleration continues, if contraction eventually begins, what does that

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<v Speaker 3>mean for our fundamental understanding of gravity and vacuum, energy

626
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<v Speaker 3>and space itself? What allows the universe to put on

627
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<v Speaker 3>the brakes and actually reverse course.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a deep one. What fundamental assumptions have to change exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a profound question toom all over.

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<v Speaker 2>And thankfully it's a question we might get a much

631
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<v Speaker 2>clearer answer to you soon thanks to that flood of

632
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<v Speaker 2>incredibly precise data we're expecting from the Verisa Reuben Observatory

633
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<v Speaker 2>over the next few years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where the next chapter of this story will be written.

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<v Speaker 3>Waiting to see if the light from thousands of new

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<v Speaker 3>supernovae confirms this cosmic shift, potentially from eternal expansion towards

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<v Speaker 3>an ultimate collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>An absolutely fascinating turn in our understanding of the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for walking us.

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<v Speaker 3>Through that, my pleasure. It's a truly exciting time in cosmology.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for joining us on this deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the very fabric of space and time. Most stations

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<v Speaker 2>ch
