Speaker 1: Oh there. M hm.
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Speaker 3: make you question reality.
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Speaker 3: Not Bill Kobe and Julia the KUSI Peach.
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all joining me for a swapcast operation Conspiracy
Speaker 2: playtime Cosic Peach would triple swap cast.
Speaker 5: It's where the dream team.
Speaker 1: This is a conspiracy three way.
Speaker 3: Oh I like that one.
Speaker 5: There you go, conspiracy three way.
Speaker 2: You know, the innocence project here and the matters of
Speaker 2: the case of Scott Peterson and the death of his
Speaker 2: wife an unborn child. You know, a lot of is
Speaker 2: the is the topic we're talking about here tonight, right,
Speaker 2: Scott Peterson went to got convicted.
Speaker 4: What well?
Speaker 1: I think I think I think the murder went down
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two and then they drug it out.
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and five when the
Speaker 1: verdict was announced. I could be wrong about that. That's
Speaker 1: just memory shit.
Speaker 2: I think you are correct. So it was December twenty four,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Was was the alleged date. And I
Speaker 2: want to sutress alleged date because when they started off
Speaker 2: the trial, the alleged of the murder was the twenty sixth, so,
Speaker 2: which is funny they we see over the prosecute that
Speaker 2: I would again, I would assert Scott Peterson did not
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: The evidence asserts the same.
Speaker 2: There's no evidence against the man, but we see a
Speaker 2: lot of the same parallels between this case and many
Speaker 2: other cover ups and cases.
Speaker 5: So I actually want to start off this episode by saying,
Speaker 5: much like in the OJ episode, you guys are gonna
Speaker 5: have to sell it to me, because I think there's
Speaker 5: three camps that you can be in. Scott Peterson did it,
Speaker 5: He's innocent, but and he was set up to make
Speaker 5: it look like he did it, or Lacy was never
Speaker 5: a real person, and this is all just a theater show.
Speaker 5: There's three keys, all right.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard of that one man, So let's start
Speaker 3: with the theater.
Speaker 4: On your own too. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and I have a couple of pieces of evidence
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 2: I'm not against that at all. I liked these kind
Speaker 2: of ideas. Whatever, whatever works best as for as, but
Speaker 2: what are the known facts we can establish? When the
Speaker 2: known facts we can established, Scott Peterson did not do it.
Speaker 2: The case is fabricated in every regard so, and we
Speaker 2: can establish that much, Well, then what else is fictional?
Speaker 3: Right? Where does the magic end?
Speaker 4: It's really just two camps.
Speaker 1: It's this is a real story and there's a narrative
Speaker 1: going on, and he's either innocent or guilty or yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just fucking bullshit.
Speaker 5: I think he did it if it is common denominator,
Speaker 5: if you if you may.
Speaker 4: I think he didn't do it if it's real.
Speaker 1: We'll start off by letting everybody know that Juju is
Speaker 1: going to be teamed up on here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's two against one. And that's fine because I
Speaker 5: told JJ when we did the OJ show that I
Speaker 5: thought he did it.
Speaker 4: Well, I find it interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what he started the OJ show, and
Speaker 2: I keep getting a requests for more OJE. Not the drink,
Speaker 2: but more analysis on the case.
Speaker 1: I never I never told you this, but years ago
Speaker 1: I heard you talking to about Idaho four with Nick
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the OJ thing, and I told Nick, Hey, dude,
Speaker 1: could you like set me up with that JJ guy,
Speaker 1: I want to do a thing about OJ. And for
Speaker 1: years he just like, oh, I'll talk to him. Oh
Speaker 1: I talked to him. He said he's down. Oh, we'll
Speaker 1: set it up. So anyway, I thought that was really
Speaker 1: cool to see you and her do it, because she
Speaker 1: came at it from the angle of thinking the narrative,
Speaker 1: the official narrative is real.
Speaker 4: But I find it interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to talk shit, but this is the
Speaker 2: first time I've ever hearing of any request to speak.
Speaker 4: I know that now, trust me, I figured that out.
Speaker 4: But it's because I.
Speaker 3: Just want to let you know I was ignoring anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, no, this is not this
Speaker 1: is just it finally happened, and you did it with her,
Speaker 1: and it's a way better show than ours would have been,
Speaker 1: probably because she thought so then she brought her same thing,
Speaker 1: her same conclusion to this. So I just find it
Speaker 1: interesting that as a conspiracy theorist when it comes to
Speaker 1: true crime, ship Julia just watches the the documentaries.
Speaker 5: The because I'm going off the information provided.
Speaker 4: But like with.
Speaker 2: If I made it to be fair, they're very compelling.
Speaker 2: Magic show. Well he financed, well organized, well perpetrated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure, and they do a good job.
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's hard to defend a scumbag, right,
Speaker 2: I mean again, let's be honest with you. Scott Peterson's
Speaker 2: kind of a scum bag, and that.
Speaker 4: Was the defense said ship like that, defending it.
Speaker 2: You got you got to recognize the facts. Though, right,
Speaker 2: I do agree with Garry Goos in that regard. If
Speaker 2: you want to try to he's gotten ship over there.
Speaker 2: He's still that clip I have. He's still defending Scott
Speaker 2: Peterson today. So he's always defended Scott Peterson and some
Speaker 2: people folks have said he did it in the wrong way.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. He was up against a fucking mountain,
Speaker 2: you know. And it's the same thing with Brian Coberger.
Speaker 2: The media convict him nothing in the courtroom, did you know? So?
Speaker 1: I think Gary Goes, actually, in my opinion, was in
Speaker 1: on the Scott Peter set up because he ignored key
Speaker 1: fucking witnesses. He ignored stuff that went on with the
Speaker 1: cadaver dogs. He could have admitted a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: in his defense that would amit Scott look a lot
Speaker 1: more innocent, and he didn't.
Speaker 2: You make a fantastic argument, sir. I'm in the same
Speaker 2: That's where I see all of the things you all
Speaker 2: have said so far about this case.
Speaker 3: I sit on in that same position.
Speaker 2: Without four I can't confirm these people are actually dead,
Speaker 2: there's no record of any of their desks with any
Speaker 2: outside of what law enforcement's provenly lied across the Specialum
Speaker 2: Activities has said. There's no independent, verifiable evidence of their deaths.
Speaker 2: There's no probate court cases for their estates to set
Speaker 2: all their debts. And you know, you know their their moneys,
Speaker 2: which they did have properties that's documented, so like vehicles
Speaker 2: and whatnot, So that's weird. There's no there's no burials,
Speaker 2: there's no funerals. They were all four victims were lugedly cremated.
Speaker 2: There's no photographs or videos of anyone taking bodies out
Speaker 2: of the house. There's no there's all the evidence of
Speaker 2: the crime scene photos now do not comport with the
Speaker 2: video or the written reports that do not comport with
Speaker 2: a nine one one call, the leak nine on one
Speaker 2: call that's not official, that's still never beneficially out. So
Speaker 2: we see all this magic show that goes on in
Speaker 2: a lot of distractions. I said the same way that
Speaker 2: in this case though I did with that one is
Speaker 2: you know, defense Attorney Anne Taylor did not she she
Speaker 2: did a great job in many respects, well, much like
Speaker 2: I say about Garry Gez. But yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of holes there, Man, there's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of holes there.
Speaker 5: I kind of want to walk through the timeline and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you as the timeline unfolds why I
Speaker 5: think he's guilty, and you can just debate me and
Speaker 5: tell me how wrong I am.
Speaker 2: But that's a great way to do it, is I
Speaker 2: like that and worked out well with the OJ stuff too, Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think as the story progresses, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: he just looks more and more and more and more guilty.
Speaker 3: So are you gonna I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: He didn't do himself any favors, and if I want to,
Speaker 2: if I may kick it off on that note, So
Speaker 2: let's imagine the scenario where this dude did not do
Speaker 2: it right, which is again, all the evidence supports that
Speaker 2: none of the evidence of the state provided, even the
Speaker 2: fictional shit, really provides any sort of anything better than
Speaker 2: what would be described as circumstantial evidence. And even that
Speaker 2: doesn't fit the chronology of events that he was We
Speaker 2: know where Scott Peterson was, Like, they just squeezed stuff
Speaker 2: in there and ignored known facts of where his locations
Speaker 2: were on that day. They alleged that the murders occurred
Speaker 2: on the twenty fourth, because after the trial began, they
Speaker 2: argued in the opening state, when the murders occurred on
Speaker 2: the twenty sixth, they moved the ship back during the trial,
Speaker 2: not during the investigation.
Speaker 4: So I know why they did that too.
Speaker 3: What's that, sir?
Speaker 4: I think I know why they did that. Why is
Speaker 4: that because the.
Speaker 1: Timeline with the Medina robbery did not fit the timeframe
Speaker 1: And they even fucking said first, those two guys said,
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't deny doing the robbery, and then
Speaker 1: they said they did it on the twenty seventh, and
Speaker 1: they were like, well, the Medinas were home from their
Speaker 1: Christmas trip like late the twenty sixth or early the
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, so you couldn't have rubbed. And they're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, we did it on the twenty s And
Speaker 1: then the official story became, Yeah, there's fucking camera crews,
Speaker 1: all that shit going on on the twenty six why
Speaker 1: would they be across the house robbing it? So they
Speaker 1: had It's like they hadn't gotten their story straight. And
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that they did that in the
Speaker 1: opening statement.
Speaker 4: So that's exactly that's.
Speaker 3: Exactly what went on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you look at the rest of the
Speaker 2: details and how they even got to that point, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So it is the street, the home across the street
Speaker 2: got robbed, and those guys were apparently suspects at some
Speaker 2: point in time. There's two robbers, and one of them
Speaker 2: made statements about her interacting with her Lacy Peterson well,
Speaker 2: you know, in the course of that robbery on a
Speaker 2: jail phone call.
Speaker 3: And then the yeah, the same thing. I don't have
Speaker 3: that anymore.
Speaker 1: The lieutenant of the correctional facility called the prosecutor and
Speaker 1: the cops and the defense. I don't know did they
Speaker 1: call the defense on that one. I might be mixing
Speaker 1: sh it up, but I think he did. And they
Speaker 1: all he said, yeah, I have these two brothers in here,
Speaker 1: Scott and something tempering to Temperington or some shit.
Speaker 5: The other guy's name is Scott too, I think.
Speaker 3: I think so the two the Burlers.
Speaker 1: No, these two brothers in this correctional facility. There was
Speaker 1: a phone call between two brothers. One of those guys
Speaker 1: was like Scott temp Temperton or Tempington, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Now, but that and he they just destroyed r what's that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But they just they just destroyed.
Speaker 2: They recognized that she was talked about in that conversation,
Speaker 2: but who knows where the tape went.
Speaker 5: But I have a problem with this because his alibi
Speaker 5: for it went down on the twenty fourth, right, officially
Speaker 5: the twenty fourth.
Speaker 3: Well that's that's well, that's their statement.
Speaker 2: But before we get there, they and doing so in
Speaker 2: the state that she even going back to the twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: they ignore the ten eyewitness statements over the standard route
Speaker 2: of her travel of walking your dog after she had
Speaker 2: breakfast on the twenty fourth with Scott, her husband, and
Speaker 2: he's accounted for during that time afterwards. Again, the chronology
Speaker 2: of events, it never fits. There's nothing imports in their
Speaker 2: in their and their uh in their claims. But they
Speaker 2: have ten eye witness statements claiming they all saw the
Speaker 2: Lacy Peterson walking that dog.
Speaker 5: See, so okay, why did he tell everybody? Why did
Speaker 5: he tell everybody that he went golfing and then later
Speaker 5: told everybody that he went fishing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll get to that in a second. That's a
Speaker 2: good question, because again, the guy's a scumbag. Was she
Speaker 2: his eight eight months pregnant?
Speaker 4: Wise, That's my thing is he probably was fucking around.
Speaker 3: Do you think that was the only girl he was begging?
Speaker 4: He admitted later on that it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he if he meant at the
Speaker 1: same time, but he said there there had been others,
Speaker 1: and he didn't really specify as far as I know
Speaker 1: what that meant.
Speaker 3: There was evidence of others again, he admitted. So again
Speaker 3: the state focused on that amber for Iolady because they
Speaker 3: need to focus on his upset, his alleged obsession with her,
Speaker 3: of which there was no evidence.
Speaker 2: Of that sou but to the to the fact that
Speaker 2: if the murder did accurrent on the twenty fourth, you'd
Speaker 2: have to ignore, and the state did. Then eyewitness accounts
Speaker 2: of normally see Lacy Peterson walking her dog on a
Speaker 2: normal route. The dogs later found on its leash.
Speaker 4: Outside by name fucking buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, so, if Scott Peterson kills her, then how
Speaker 2: do you have to count for the dog in these
Speaker 2: eyewitness statements? And then you have to count for her
Speaker 2: going home after that? And the forensic data of her
Speaker 2: their computer showed search results for sunflower dresses or something
Speaker 2: like that, which is something she was a big shit
Speaker 2: everything with sunflowers.
Speaker 3: With Lacy Peterson.
Speaker 2: Somebody was searching sunflower dresses with sunflower patterns on it,
Speaker 2: you know, at like one o'clock in the afternoon on
Speaker 2: the twenty four. So then you have her that one
Speaker 2: during the time of that robbery.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Do you know how they explained that one away?
Speaker 3: I think they just ignored it.
Speaker 5: Because why did he lie about going to the golf court.
Speaker 1: I have a theory on all of it where I
Speaker 1: think it makes perfect sense what Scott was up to
Speaker 1: and why he lied, and why he knew his wife
Speaker 1: was either missing or dead, and.
Speaker 5: Why like that, they said Lacy had a doctor's note
Speaker 5: that she was supposed to be on bedrest, that she
Speaker 5: should not have been walking the dog that day because
Speaker 5: she was having fainting spells.
Speaker 1: Well, regardless of all that, we will talk about that.
Speaker 1: I think Scott Peterson, he was working for this fertilizer
Speaker 1: company that opened up a new thing and they were
Speaker 1: selling androgynists hydroxide, and Scott had some neo Nazi witnesses
Speaker 1: come forward and talk about conversations. It looked like his
Speaker 1: parents were laundering money through the kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's unpack that for a moment, sir. We're
Speaker 2: dealing with this with a case in meth Desto, California,
Speaker 2: the meth capital of America. Methm fatima is one of
Speaker 2: the primary products, is what you just identified, and the
Speaker 2: production and manufacturer meth.
Speaker 3: You need those chemicals in that fertilizer.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.
Speaker 2: His father got him hooked into these things. And his
Speaker 2: father and mother run an interesting import export business out
Speaker 2: of San Diego.
Speaker 1: And they're buying their kids, one of them, like his
Speaker 1: one of his half brothers, is basically a retard, and
Speaker 1: they were buying and that's the one whose idea he had,
Speaker 1: I believe, And they were buying these kids homes and
Speaker 1: then switching whose names the mortgages were on in very
Speaker 1: odd ways. And then you got to account for the
Speaker 1: fact that all these people he's running with, he's going
Speaker 1: to Fresno a lot. I think Scott Peterson got he
Speaker 1: pissed the wrong fucking people off, and they fucking gave
Speaker 1: him a choice and he opted out and they killed
Speaker 1: his fucking wife and kid.
Speaker 4: If this is real, that's what I think.
Speaker 3: I think you're honest on the serto. I think that's
Speaker 3: that's certainly.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly in the complete agreement with your assessment,
Speaker 2: but your general assessment. I am if there's something going
Speaker 2: on here, if it did happen for real, he pissed
Speaker 2: somebody off, and drugs were involved in the Mets productions,
Speaker 2: and he's white nationalist you're talking about.
Speaker 3: That's a major episent in factivity. There were all that
Speaker 3: dating back.
Speaker 2: To the manson air when he was running meth with
Speaker 2: the Hell's Angels through that region.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's all the same playbook there.
Speaker 3: And I think it's the same network.
Speaker 4: Julia.
Speaker 1: Yes, Julia talks about how there's this note from the
Speaker 1: doctor and all this stuff, and that's maybe true. But
Speaker 1: speaking of the baby, people have pointed out that that
Speaker 1: she would have been thirty one weeks along when this happened,
Speaker 1: and they find like a pristine looking newborn then they
Speaker 1: find her body. Now they said the baby was like
Speaker 1: thirty six to thirty seven weeks the no eight weeks
Speaker 1: that's what.
Speaker 4: Yes, But how.
Speaker 1: Far along was she when this kidnapping or whatever went down?
Speaker 1: She was thirty one weeks along, that is true.
Speaker 2: Let's put a pin on that, because that's the forensics
Speaker 2: that everyone ignored. So there was some distinct differences in
Speaker 2: decomposition between the alleged torso that's what they found and
Speaker 2: then they would later claim was DNA through blood and
Speaker 2: DNA they proved that that was Lacy Peterson's torsos that
Speaker 2: came up from the water, allegedly anchored down by some
Speaker 2: concrete anchors built by her husband, allegedly again not proven.
Speaker 2: But the baby, yeah, it seemed to be having to
Speaker 2: actually have been given birth at some point and been
Speaker 2: lived longer than its mother.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was trying to talk to her about this
Speaker 1: last night because it just it gives a lot of
Speaker 1: credence to the fact that she was held longer. I mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't find her body till April, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the ocean is unforgiving, and then she's missing extremities and
Speaker 1: most of her organs never found her head. Now, that
Speaker 1: looks to me like that's not something the ocean did.
Speaker 1: She was part of a ritual, part of what they
Speaker 1: wanted us to believe happened to Sharon Tate kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and maybe the child was kept alight and killed a
Speaker 1: later day and thrown in and then she always when
Speaker 1: we were talking about this last night, she brings up, well,
Speaker 1: why why would he have been at that bay, and
Speaker 1: I said, of course, if the people see, that's where
Speaker 1: people are gonna believe that's where they're gonna dump. The
Speaker 1: body is where they where he said he was, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't make him look guilty exactly.
Speaker 2: So everyone needs that against them, and Sandy Coburger, if
Speaker 2: you have no evidence, that's evidence against them. And if
Speaker 2: you don't, if you have evidence of him being somewhere,
Speaker 2: well then we'll pen we'll put the evidence in that area.
Speaker 3: So everyone knew he went, he said he from day no. One.
Speaker 2: He never lied to law enforcement about any of his
Speaker 2: activities outside of this claim of the fishing and the
Speaker 2: golfing thing the Joliys mentioned. I do think that's the
Speaker 2: most interesting portions of his tail, because the rest of
Speaker 2: his chronology of events to law enforcement.
Speaker 3: He's not a good liar. It's proven to not be
Speaker 3: a good liar.
Speaker 2: The only thing because he tried to lie, the only
Speaker 2: thing you know, to try to lie about to law
Speaker 2: enforcement was his affair, and they quickly found that out.
Speaker 1: And then to me, the anchor thing, I think he
Speaker 1: may have been dumping product or something for these fucking people.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Dude, you have well, first of all,
Speaker 2: so you have and the production of mathema vetemanes. You
Speaker 2: have with all these chemicals, I've never made math. I've
Speaker 2: never even seen breaking bad but brought to us by
Speaker 2: one of Charles Manson's friends, Brian Cranston, friends with Charles Manson.
Speaker 3: His word's not mine. They knew each other anyhow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, strangely, why is it always Manson's buddies bringing always
Speaker 2: always processed fuckers bringing us all this degradation to society.
Speaker 3: Weird, right, So there's a lot of byproduct, so they
Speaker 3: have to do something with that.
Speaker 2: You can't just go throat and you know, in a
Speaker 2: ways you gotta have you know, where'd you get all
Speaker 2: these chemicals you're dumping?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I make meth at home, you know. I mean you
Speaker 2: got to do something with it. So what's a great
Speaker 2: way to do it? Build some concrete anchors, go throat
Speaker 2: in the ocean to one of your dudes who's out
Speaker 2: there fishing every week or something like that, because the
Speaker 2: guy is a big fisherman. His first day with Lacy
Speaker 2: Peterson was fishing. Okay, I'm a big fisherman. I'm a
Speaker 2: live in a van down by the river. I live
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking mountain man. I've never taken my first
Speaker 2: day in it. Why, I mean, I was married for
Speaker 2: seventeen years, but never did my first day in into
Speaker 2: to fishing.
Speaker 5: But he didn't have the boat. He bought the boat
Speaker 5: the day he told Amber Fry that his wife was dead.
Speaker 4: So he's a lie.
Speaker 5: But why tell her my wife is dead?
Speaker 1: And then we are not we are not debating whether
Speaker 1: or not Scott Peterson was a scumbag liar.
Speaker 4: We all know that. But what was he trying to
Speaker 4: cover up with his life.
Speaker 5: Before December ninth? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: How do you explain? What was he you saying he
Speaker 5: bought the boat on December ninth because he was dumping drugs.
Speaker 2: He was always fishing, he was renting. So let's let's
Speaker 2: unpack evers saying. Let's also note back to his father.
Speaker 2: His father's went and got him this job again. And
Speaker 2: let's also know that according for whatever reason, I don't know,
Speaker 2: so the state try to pretend like this, this identity
Speaker 2: that Scott Peterson had created for himself with Amber Fry
Speaker 2: on those recordings, that they had her do right, which
Speaker 2: he again was very apologetic to her for lying et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that we said about
Speaker 2: his behavior there that doesn't really yield to appoint to
Speaker 2: him being guilty, but it was framed that way, and
Speaker 2: they were framing as an obsession with this lady, and
Speaker 2: again he by his own emission, was banging the other ladies.
Speaker 2: He has a scumbag, but that is That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: So what other scumbag activities into? So he's he's always fishing,
Speaker 2: so he's renting boats, he's doing these other things. He's
Speaker 2: going to Cairo. He's going to, uh, give me one second.
Speaker 2: My dog's are getting outrageous, Give me one second.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know, when we're trying to parse out with
Speaker 2: Scott Peterson, did or did not do here? I mean
Speaker 2: he's obviously hiding since again what is he hiding?
Speaker 3: Right? What activities was he into? What was he doing
Speaker 3: on on these fishing trips.
Speaker 2: Why is a fertilizer salesman who became the top fertilizer
Speaker 2: salesman for that company, a company that's out of Spain.
Speaker 2: I believe it is, if I'm not mistaken or as
Speaker 2: some weird European connections and Peterson's going to Cairo, He's
Speaker 2: going to Belgium, He's going to there's another far off
Speaker 2: destination that he's going to. Hey, yo, there's an other
Speaker 2: far off destinations going to. What where's he going through
Speaker 2: these times that the state would later claim that he's
Speaker 2: lying to him or fry about being this jet center. Gup, No,
Speaker 2: he's really going to those places. He just wasn't there
Speaker 2: at the time he was telling umber Fray he was
Speaker 2: there Paris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's worth note the androgenous hydroxide is an
Speaker 1: ineffective and more expensive fertilizer than what's on the market
Speaker 1: for farmers in the area.
Speaker 4: Yet he's a top salesman. Who's he selling this shit too?
Speaker 1: I want to see your seats on that shit, because yes,
Speaker 1: this guy, I'll just say, he's got some corn pop
Speaker 1: qualities to him.
Speaker 4: He's a bad dude and he's hanging. He's running with
Speaker 4: some bad boys.
Speaker 1: So those bad boys definitely are behind this in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and the evidence of the fetus and the I think
Speaker 1: they turned him over to the process or whoever else
Speaker 1: is fucking running satanic rituals in that area. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the area and they were also searching fresh
Speaker 1: waterways in the foothills of the Sierras, and made me
Speaker 1: think of all these fucking program to kill people that
Speaker 1: Julie is talking about. That's like, probably why they were
Speaker 1: looking up there is because maybe that is where it
Speaker 1: happened places like that, And why were they searching just
Speaker 1: anywhere where there's water.
Speaker 4: Scott could have been fishing or dumping bodies.
Speaker 3: Okay, but can I mean, that's a good question. What
Speaker 3: it begs the question what else was going on and
Speaker 3: they were looking for? Right?
Speaker 5: But all right, all right, let me back it up
Speaker 5: just a little bit. Okay, just backing up a little bit.
Speaker 5: The day that she supposedly went missing, right, he if
Speaker 5: he didn't do it himself, he knew she was already
Speaker 5: fucking dead, or that she was about to be fucking dead.
Speaker 4: That was part of my argument.
Speaker 5: He comes home, he does a load of laundry for himself,
Speaker 5: he eats a piece of pizza, he takes a shower,
Speaker 5: he's moseying around the house. Then he calls her mom
Speaker 5: and was like, Hey, if Lacy's not over there, I
Speaker 5: guess she's missing.
Speaker 1: Which is when the nonchalant is fucked, which is when
Speaker 1: the reported nine one one call was made by her stepfather. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think all that can track. Scott did not look
Speaker 1: like he was in mourning. He was a poor an addict,
Speaker 1: he was a sex addict, and he kept that ship
Speaker 1: going after all this went down. Yeah, he doesn't do
Speaker 1: himself any favors. And yeah, this is not about what
Speaker 1: he knew.
Speaker 3: Was going on. Right, they all knew something was going
Speaker 3: on the media frame he was trying to go to Mexico.
Speaker 3: He may have been, we don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: But when he dyed his hair and had his brother's
Speaker 2: driver's license, all those things, camping equipment and his mother
Speaker 2: bottom of car, et cetera. Well, here's the deal. The
Speaker 2: whole family knew they were in that he was in
Speaker 2: some ship. Because the whole family's involved in some ship,
Speaker 2: it seems right.
Speaker 3: So we look after the.
Speaker 2: Like a cult, like a processed style cult, ride dealing drugs,
Speaker 2: like just like that same area with with the Hell's
Speaker 2: Angels and Charles Manson with with a mathem Medesto for
Speaker 2: decades earlier. We're to assume that's an extension of a
Speaker 2: similar network or same network. We're going to see the
Speaker 2: same activities and patterns, and we do so the fact
Speaker 2: that we see the family doing all these weird things
Speaker 2: that they're helping him hide something. They've all maintained his innocence,
Speaker 2: so it would indicate they all know something.
Speaker 3: He indicated he knew something. He knew because he knew
Speaker 3: that he was involved with the ship.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's not easy to get, right, fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1: In cash, well, not by your normal means. But also,
Speaker 1: he didn't have money on record. He was fucking up
Speaker 1: to his eyeballs in debt, That's what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: he was wealthy, but it wasn't on paper because it
Speaker 1: couldn't be.
Speaker 5: So that you're saying, that's where the fifteen thousand in
Speaker 5: cash came from.
Speaker 1: This guy's traveling around buying new shit. They were not
Speaker 1: a product of wealth. Her parents had some money, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not a lot of.
Speaker 5: Thousand in cash.
Speaker 1: All right, With that narrative that you're presenting, how do
Speaker 1: you account for the fifteen k.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, if he's got this money and he's not
Speaker 5: the one who did it, he knew from fucking Jump
Speaker 5: Street she was dead.
Speaker 1: That tracks with what I'm trying to You guys are
Speaker 1: read Oh yeah, that's what I agree.
Speaker 4: So have you guys either read or seen Gone Girl? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I think? This guy looks Ben Affleck.
Speaker 5: Yeah he does.
Speaker 1: When I watched Gone Girl, I kept thinking of this
Speaker 1: case me too. I was like, wait a minute, what
Speaker 1: is David Fincher, director of Hollywood. CIA heard saying. Because
Speaker 1: it's always David Fincher. He gave us the social network,
Speaker 1: he gives us these cut and dry fucking He used
Speaker 1: to be a great filmmaker.
Speaker 4: Now he makes propaganda.
Speaker 1: And I think that that Gone Girl was another nod
Speaker 1: to Scott Peterson.
Speaker 2: Zodiac was kind of propaganda.
Speaker 5: I think so too.
Speaker 1: Zodiac's very propaganda. I think it's total great movie too.
Speaker 5: I loved the movie. But it's just a story.
Speaker 4: It's not it's a good story. They told us.
Speaker 2: It's a fanciful tale, right, brought to us by Robert Smith,
Speaker 2: not Robert gray Smith. His name is Roberts gray Smith
Speaker 2: the third. His father was the US Air Force colonel.
Speaker 4: Did he sing in the band The Cure?
Speaker 3: Right? The Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, here, let's look at these details there. So he's
Speaker 2: lying about going on a fishing trip because they doesn't
Speaker 2: want people to know he bought this secret boat. He
Speaker 2: doesn't want Bill knows and got a secret boat because
Speaker 2: he's dumping drug stuff and you know, for other parties
Speaker 2: in the ocean, is what we're saying, right Colby?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and why why the homemade anchors? If you just
Speaker 1: killed your wife, you're gonna make an anchor, you'd go.
Speaker 4: Buy a fuck.
Speaker 5: He lied about the anchors.
Speaker 1: He lied about it because of what he was really doing.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to go down for a good lie.
Speaker 2: About the concrete, he said, he about the concrete for
Speaker 2: his driveway. But you're not gonna tell no. I'm buying
Speaker 2: the concrete to build these anchors to say drug you know,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: The the byproduct of drug drug manufacturer.
Speaker 4: He's such a sitting duck for a setup.
Speaker 5: He also said that when he went fishing that morning,
Speaker 5: that he was using some type of silver lure.
Speaker 1: At first, he didn't know what he was using. If
Speaker 1: you if you listen to the cops, and then he
Speaker 1: lied because apparently they were talking about sturgeon fishing at
Speaker 1: one point. I mean, they focused a way too much
Speaker 1: on that because obviously this guy's a liar.
Speaker 5: He makes himself look like dog shit because he.
Speaker 4: Couldn't have made himself look any guilty or we're on
Speaker 4: the same page.
Speaker 2: Let's agree he's a liar. Let's agree that he made
Speaker 2: a bunch of he did lie a couple times in
Speaker 2: the police. But the overwhelming narrative is chronology events that
Speaker 2: they you know what location he was at. He was
Speaker 2: still doing an activity he didn't golfing because he's dumping
Speaker 2: drug stuff.
Speaker 4: Probably right, he had to have a cover story for
Speaker 4: what he was doing.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So, but in investigating that, they never put
Speaker 2: him in any place to put him in the fundamental
Speaker 2: aspect of an investigation homicides, specifically, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: find your your suspect has to have a nexus point
Speaker 2: with about the victim and the crime scene. They never
Speaker 2: found a crime scene and nexus point or even a weapon.
Speaker 1: Yes, they completely tried him in the court of publicion
Speaker 1: with circumstantial evidence that looks horrible. There's no fucking way
Speaker 1: they could have gotten a fair jury in this trial.
Speaker 1: There is no fucking way. They couldn't have moved it
Speaker 1: to the moon.
Speaker 3: Well, and on top of this, they just made up
Speaker 3: out right.
Speaker 2: Look, look, let's look at this stuff with the boat,
Speaker 2: so he went he did to go fishing he went
Speaker 2: on the water. That was later proven they used a
Speaker 2: sniffer dog, a bloodhound that was not certified, that failed
Speaker 2: at certifications, and they gave it an item of clothing
Speaker 2: that had both Lacey and Scott sent on it, and
Speaker 2: then they claimed that it tracked Lacey down a pier
Speaker 2: where she was then taken into the water, and then
Speaker 2: they should attractor in his warehouse. Yeah, but that dog
Speaker 2: was tracking a scent item that also had Scott sent
Speaker 2: on it, and nonetheless it also had failed its certifications,
Speaker 2: and now that was approof. They brought that argument up
Speaker 2: and try but again the no one's gonna listen to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: It was on record that this dog And I find
Speaker 1: this number funny. I was telling Julia last night he
Speaker 1: was wrong sixty six percent of the time. So knowing
Speaker 1: that and knowing all the witness testimony that's left out
Speaker 1: of this trial, if you look at the circumstantial evidence,
Speaker 1: and you look at the stuff that wasn't admitted, that
Speaker 1: would make him look even like there is a possibility
Speaker 1: of his innocence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was he was railroad.
Speaker 5: So are you saying that him dumping the drugs in
Speaker 5: his boat is the reason why weeks prior to her missing.
Speaker 4: Well, he's not dumping drugs.
Speaker 1: First of all, he is he is he is the guy,
Speaker 1: the chemical guy, and so he had to get rid
Speaker 1: of that ship.
Speaker 4: Like JJ was saying, he.
Speaker 3: Dumped the broad byproduct, right, That's how I look at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I was just gonna say, is that why
Speaker 5: prior to her missing? Uh, he was researching tides?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, he's dumping something. He's not dumping the body though.
Speaker 1: He looks guilty if you know the mainstream, but you
Speaker 1: don't know what this guy was really up to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks guilty.
Speaker 5: If we're going along with the gone girl narrative. Though,
Speaker 5: do you think the body that they found was even.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little nod in a wink.
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what ahead this wasn't find legs arms.
Speaker 5: All they found was like tits in a stomach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ship was fucking sacrifice to Moloch. We'll never
Speaker 1: find the.
Speaker 5: Head, Okay, But I'm saying, like, well, begs the question, Jode,
Speaker 5: answer your question.
Speaker 3: It begs the question.
Speaker 2: When they do present later forendsic Evidence claiming they did
Speaker 2: DNA testing and confirm it was Lacy and Connor, right,
Speaker 2: the baby and the mother there the bodies they located
Speaker 2: the torso and then the baby. Well, we to believe
Speaker 2: them when they've lied so many other times across the case.
Speaker 4: So you're saying that might not have even.
Speaker 2: Been I'm saying I'd like to you know, once again,
Speaker 2: once they lie so many times, Man, it's hard to
Speaker 2: believe them when they make that. When they made that
Speaker 2: conclusion later, you know, when we we can point to
Speaker 2: things that they demonstered me a lot about it, and
Speaker 2: then the state would not you know, uh, obfuscated items
Speaker 2: from the defense. For example, there was much like the
Speaker 2: Coburger defense or the case they the Coburger's defense requested
Speaker 2: twenty four times for discovery. In fact, recently they just
Speaker 2: found out that they they proved in a most more
Speaker 2: recent filing even after the guilty plea here that the
Speaker 2: state demonstrably withheld discovery claiming they didn't have it when
Speaker 2: they did in fact testified under oath that they did
Speaker 2: have it later. So these things are relevant in the
Speaker 2: Peterson situation. So the State of California hands over discovery
Speaker 2: de Mark Errgos after Peterson the day after or the
Speaker 2: day of maybe that Peterson signs that guilty plea. So
Speaker 2: and these matters that are constantly hiding these things, we
Speaker 2: look at the authority's doing this.
Speaker 3: Let me let me look.
Speaker 2: Let me bring you up another case of this. This
Speaker 2: case reminds me of So. This guy just got denied parole.
Speaker 2: He got fifteen years alive for the murder of his
Speaker 2: wife here in Ohio back in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: Ryan Whidber.
Speaker 4: Right, God damn, just looking at him.
Speaker 2: So there was no there was no evidence in this case.
Speaker 2: His wife died in the bath tub. He had a
Speaker 2: very suspect story. He was also cheating on his wife,
Speaker 2: I believe, or at least trying to maybe like a
Speaker 2: dating profile or something maybe who knows.
Speaker 3: I remember that precise of me. He was actually falling
Speaker 3: through that or trying to.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, there was in fidelity and there was no
Speaker 2: evidence saying she she had a medical condition. And the
Speaker 2: claim was that she had that medical condition of the
Speaker 2: seizure and died and drowned in her bathtub while he
Speaker 2: was downstairs watching TV. And again there was no evidence
Speaker 2: that he drowned her. Again, they based it was a
Speaker 2: purely on this guy's scombag and etcetera, etcetera. The lead
Speaker 2: detective in this this guy sits in prison. He just
Speaker 2: got to night parole just a month ago. The judge
Speaker 2: in this case is the same judge that convicted him,
Speaker 2: was the same judge in the appeals court that denied
Speaker 2: all of his appeals. That should be noted because again,
Speaker 2: this is a framework I think when we have these
Speaker 2: these very high profile incidents. There's been so many date
Speaker 2: lines in forty eight hours about this case. This happened
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati again back in two thousand and eight. The detective,
Speaker 2: the lead detective, was not even a credential law enforcement officer,
Speaker 2: let alone a fucking detective. He had fraudulently created a
Speaker 2: resume to get hired by that department was a suburban
Speaker 2: department north of Cincinnati, a township department. He had fraudulently
Speaker 2: applied and filled out in resume saying he was a
Speaker 2: you know, law enforcement officer. Apparently no one checks these things.
Speaker 2: I guess you can just claim your detective and they
Speaker 2: hire you. And then he gets assigned about six months
Speaker 2: into that case, and fucking he gets found out later
Speaker 2: by the defense and and argued a trial. This this
Speaker 2: entire thing is to get thrown out. This guy's not even
Speaker 2: a fucking cop, let alone the detective. He's a fraudster,
Speaker 2: and they convicted the man anyway. So we see a
Speaker 2: lot of times where these details just simply don't matter
Speaker 2: in high profile cases. I think it's important to take
Speaker 2: and look at some of these high profile cases and
Speaker 2: see the comparisons though, and how they ignore evidence and
Speaker 2: how they then present the stuff in the in the media.
Speaker 2: And we see the same kind of deal with Scott Peterson.
Speaker 2: We just sawd Ryan Widber there that he was he
Speaker 2: was he was a cheating husband, so it was an
Speaker 2: easy guy to blame in the media and then twistings around.
Speaker 5: Have you heard of the Chris Watts.
Speaker 4: Case?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, get a lot of messages to look into that.
Speaker 4: Well. I don't whether that guy's guilty or not. What
Speaker 4: I do know.
Speaker 1: Is that they use the same exact script almost to
Speaker 1: a t.
Speaker 4: The only difference is the kids were alive.
Speaker 2: That so uh retire Grateful Police Police Department Ray Falls
Speaker 2: Montanna Police Department detective John Cameron, who wrote the seminal
Speaker 2: study on Edward Wayne Edwards, the serial killer you've probably
Speaker 2: never heard of. He asserts a large spectrum of murders
Speaker 2: that Edward Wayne Edwards is responsible for. I assert he's
Speaker 2: onto something, but adds like the general in a hand
Speaker 2: of Death cult, you know, like his buddy owedis tool
Speaker 2: that he knew right who claims of being part of
Speaker 2: the Hand of Death call. So in that regard, Cameron
Speaker 2: attributes these murders to ed Now he also attributes the
Speaker 2: Chris Wats murders to d So when you're saying the
Speaker 2: same playbow, he's in communicator. He's trying to John Cameron
Speaker 2: has done interviews in recent you know, he hasn't been
Speaker 2: interviewed about six years, because he's seven years now. I've
Speaker 2: been trying to get him on the podcast. We've been
Speaker 2: in communications, but he seems to have been threatened a lot.
Speaker 2: I think are harassed or both. But you know, because
Speaker 2: he's ongoing enterprises in my in my assertion, in my
Speaker 2: analysis and whatnot. And you know, he's he's been in
Speaker 2: contact with Wayne Williams defense, Chris Watts defense. This guy's
Speaker 2: trying to tell folks that these people have been friend
Speaker 2: using the same the same playbook. He's saying, it's the
Speaker 2: ad playbook. I think he's onto something.
Speaker 1: I think Ed was in charge of that playbook, and
Speaker 1: it's an older playbook too somebody else, and it's.
Speaker 2: A very CIA chaos playbook because adds documented to be
Speaker 2: part of the CIA Project Chaos stuff like.
Speaker 4: Ed and Ted.
Speaker 5: So you're thinking that's what happened with Lacey.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it was not something that could just coincidentally
Speaker 1: have happened, and it's not fucking tied to all this
Speaker 1: stuff that we do know went on in that same
Speaker 1: area for decades and it doesn't even matter because what.
Speaker 3: It still goes on today, right, So I don't know
Speaker 3: what was your question.
Speaker 5: You think that this this is like a blueprint.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that if.
Speaker 1: Him, I think if the late great David McGowan hadn't
Speaker 1: met his demise however that may have happened, that he
Speaker 1: would have got onto this stuff and he would have
Speaker 1: continued his program to kill work, and he would have
Speaker 1: pointed out these networks because it's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm trying to think of other stuff that people
Speaker 5: bring up about the case that makes him look guilty.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's there's loads of it.
Speaker 5: I mean sites Amber Fry which they love to point
Speaker 5: out about that he would say stuff like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 5: not I haven't even been in the nursery. I can't
Speaker 5: even stand to look at it. And then when they
Speaker 5: served the second search warrant, they found that he took
Speaker 5: all the baby stuff out yea into then he sold
Speaker 5: her car, he put the house up for sale. This
Speaker 5: does not this is This is not a man. This
Speaker 5: guy in his pregnant wife.
Speaker 1: He probably already grieved before the press even knew any
Speaker 1: of this has happened. And I think that this guy
Speaker 1: was in bug out mode. He's waiting for this ship
Speaker 1: to die down. If it's going to he's gonna fucking
Speaker 1: get out.
Speaker 4: And he tried shit shit is it?
Speaker 3: The fan? Yeah, probably lives. They don't know, they don't
Speaker 3: know where it's going to end, and they.
Speaker 1: Don't know that if Scott goes down that he's not
Speaker 1: gonna fucking talk.
Speaker 4: They probably wake up every morning going.
Speaker 1: Is today the day that Scott really says what happened
Speaker 1: and implicates all of us?
Speaker 3: And that's probably part of it too, man. So let's
Speaker 3: look at something.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna answer both of your all his points there
Speaker 2: if I may, And let's look at some of the
Speaker 2: chronology of events. Here, so you know, uh, he for example,
Speaker 2: he was renting cars and going to the bay when
Speaker 2: they were doing these searches. Well, he didn't want to
Speaker 2: go there in his own car. I mean, obviously it
Speaker 2: looks suspicious. But at the same time, you know, he
Speaker 2: knows they're trying to frame him. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: know you're trying to frame I'm prop up my mind
Speaker 2: in his mind, my brain holding his brain hole, if
Speaker 2: you will. And uh, if they're trying to frame him,
Speaker 2: well he's want to go see what's going on over there.
Speaker 2: He's not just gonna be like, oh, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: let them go do these things. Right, Like again, the
Speaker 2: whole family's an alert, the whole family. So she disappears
Speaker 2: on Well, first of all, we see the same comparison
Speaker 2: with Brian Koberg. Before he's even indicted in January and
Speaker 2: February of twenty twenty three, they're telling the whole mayor
Speaker 2: the media is that he's murdered other people they got
Speaker 2: They're saying he's a suspect of the murders in Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: and Georgia and fucking all sorts of ship. He's a
Speaker 2: new Ted Bundy, right, They're claiming that too. So we
Speaker 2: see the same thing with with with Scott Peterson. They
Speaker 2: blamed before he before the trial even began. Him and
Speaker 2: him and Lacey met at cal Poly University there and
Speaker 2: two years after they met there, this student was murdered there.
Speaker 2: Now everyone's always known it was her boyfriend, and he's
Speaker 2: since been arrested with her father, that Paul Fluores guy.
Speaker 2: But the media at the time, you know, they woun'tar
Speaker 2: rested at the time he went to rested. In recent years,
Speaker 2: I'm saying law enforcement knew who it was, but the
Speaker 2: media is telling everybody that Scott Peterson did this murder.
Speaker 2: So we see again this this this kind of pattern
Speaker 2: of behavior, right, this framework so smart.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of that.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah she was she That was the big media
Speaker 2: headlines is, oh, Scott Peterson murders after April when they
Speaker 2: found her the torso right, Scott Scott Peterson murdered his
Speaker 2: wife April two thousand and two, Scott or two other three,
Speaker 2: I apologize Scott Peterson murder's wife and now he's a
Speaker 2: suspect on the disappearance of another college student from the
Speaker 2: from their university where they were at where they met.
Speaker 4: JJ.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something real quick. Just this
Speaker 1: picture of Lacy that you had just had up there.
Speaker 1: Julia and I last night were wondering, are there any
Speaker 1: pictures of her full term pregnant, because everything is like this,
Speaker 1: it's from the chest up.
Speaker 2: I've only ever seen one, sir, Yes, I know your
Speaker 2: theory is this is this is not a real person.
Speaker 3: I know. I like addressing all these theories as we're
Speaker 3: going through that.
Speaker 1: They could easily fake a pregnant photo. That's the other thing, like, hey.
Speaker 5: Well we just talked about how with JJ actually how
Speaker 5: they have fake bumps and fake fucking all kinds of
Speaker 5: stuff with pregnant women.
Speaker 1: Watch a movie where someone's watch Megan Markle walking around, Well.
Speaker 2: Just don't watch that movie with Charlie stair On because
Speaker 2: she gained a sixty pound beer belly and she's not
Speaker 2: wear a fake fake baby bump. Totally totally isn't Maybe
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've only ever seen one other photo than
Speaker 2: this one where she's laying and appears to be full term,
Speaker 2: and she's laying down on a couch and you can
Speaker 2: kind of see the belly hanging out of a T shirt.
Speaker 1: That could even be angle. Think of a woman not pregnant.
Speaker 1: She's got her feet up on an ottoman right now.
Speaker 1: Picture this if you will. All I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: don't see like a picture out there where she's eight
Speaker 1: months pregnant. You say you have seen one, though.
Speaker 3: I'll find it. I'll find it on I'm referring to
Speaker 3: I like because no, I'm just asking you to think
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety six, Pamela Anderson starred in the film
Speaker 2: Barbed Wire, and she they superimposed some of her face
Speaker 2: on some other lady's body, even though allegedly even though
Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson imposed naked or playboy that she didn't want
Speaker 2: to pose, you know, be nude in this new film
Speaker 2: for Hollywood. So we know that technology allegedly exists to
Speaker 2: do these things. We saw the same thing with Brandon
Speaker 2: Lee and Crow right allegedly at least right where they're
Speaker 2: super imposing these things at real time on and can't
Speaker 2: well why can't they do that in two thousand and
Speaker 2: two on pictures right? They could be any lady's body, right,
Speaker 2: John Bay, I know you're a big man of the
Speaker 2: John Benay case there, Julia well Uh in the book
Speaker 2: by Gary Singular. He writes about the at the time
Speaker 2: they had hired a hacker the Prosecutor's office there, I
Speaker 2: think was the PD My apology, No, the news. Did
Speaker 2: the news hire the local news hired a hacker to
Speaker 2: show them what was going on with this child pornography
Speaker 2: stuff around these beauty pageants. And they were taking actual
Speaker 2: photographs of the young girls and then superimposing their faces
Speaker 2: on new girl young girl's body.
Speaker 3: So they had found evidence of such with John Benay,
Speaker 3: I believe of taking evidence of her picture being distributed
Speaker 3: like that with you know, super imposts allegedly, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred, one hundred well pictures.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is what reporting. Gary Singler's pre
Speaker 2: trustworthy source and in regards as reporting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I was just gonna say, if we go
Speaker 5: on the theory, Lacey, this whole thing is staged and
Speaker 5: it never happened. I haven't seen one ultrasound picture. I
Speaker 5: never saw one iota of a baby anything in this
Speaker 5: entire case. Like if I died tomorrow and I was
Speaker 5: murdered and they found my fucking carcass somewhere, I have
Speaker 5: so many pictures that they could show my belly they could,
Speaker 5: they would show my ultrasound. They would show like just
Speaker 5: to you know how they like to traumatize people and
Speaker 5: make it so personal, like this is the baby that
Speaker 5: he killed, Look look at the ultrasound or like any
Speaker 5: baby anything. Nothing. There was none of that with Lacey.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Julia brought up an interesting point that
Speaker 1: I didn't know about last night while we were talking
Speaker 1: about this, because since around the baby stuff, she told
Speaker 1: me that the fucking nursery theme was boats and a
Speaker 1: life raft like a life saver rig.
Speaker 3: That, oh yeah, you want your pa.
Speaker 5: And a life rap.
Speaker 3: I got a picture of her.
Speaker 4: What poetic irony right there.
Speaker 5: If it's staged, that's part of it exactly.
Speaker 4: Maybe that room wind never had ship in it and
Speaker 4: it was storaged for a while, who knows.
Speaker 3: So that this is the.
Speaker 2: Family of Peterson runs this website Scott Peterson Appeal dot org,
Speaker 2: and they have they have they have the case summaries
Speaker 2: and facts appeal information, et cetera. And they have all
Speaker 2: this information timelines, et cetera. So we can look at
Speaker 2: some of this stuff in that boat and the Lacey sidings.
Speaker 2: Right again, some of the evidence that was ignored, not
Speaker 2: in inentered into evidence.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: So what we're saying here also in regards to if
Speaker 2: this was all, you know, a kind of a fictional event,
Speaker 2: right to distract from some month that something else in
Speaker 2: this maybe drug network. You know, let's let's just say,
Speaker 2: let's me impose this for example, what this is. My
Speaker 2: brain holds that as you're just saying these things, like,
Speaker 2: you know, something goes on this drug network and they
Speaker 2: got to do something to distract things from it, right,
Speaker 2: So they run a you know, fake operation of sorts
Speaker 2: for whatever reason that we don't the unknown reason they
Speaker 2: have to do it, the motivation is behind it. But
Speaker 2: I can make that same argument for the IAO four
Speaker 2: cases because again there's no evidence there are they running
Speaker 2: that operation deflect from something else within this Iran contra
Speaker 2: kind of drugged smuggling, processed churchy and efforts, because there's
Speaker 2: connection to all of that with Idaho contra as I
Speaker 2: call it. So I think that's interesting to note because
Speaker 2: if we're gonna look at that and take that into consideration, well,
Speaker 2: then the family's still part of it by running this
Speaker 2: shit right, by even running this website and shit right.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I just was a little tangent I was
Speaker 1: going to bring it up a little while but ago
Speaker 1: when Amber came up, she was exonerated as soon as
Speaker 1: the cops found out about her.
Speaker 4: They heard her story out. This is what they say.
Speaker 1: They heard her story out. They publicly announce Amber Fry
Speaker 1: has come forward. She's done honest with us. We're exonerating her.
Speaker 1: She's not a suspect.
Speaker 4: But she lawyers up and gets this high profile celebrity lawyer.
Speaker 1: Why did she lawyer up up? They say, we are
Speaker 1: not looking into her whatsoever. She's cooperating with us. There's
Speaker 1: the prego pic.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting point, man, it's an
Speaker 3: interesting point.
Speaker 1: Well, in your opinion, why would in these circumstances that
Speaker 1: they set for set out for us, why does she
Speaker 1: need to.
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree, it's not a strong there's not
Speaker 3: a strong case for to get an attorney that respect,
Speaker 3: and this.
Speaker 4: High profile celebrity attorney.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And by the way, this this high profile celebrity attorney
Speaker 5: approached her and said I will represent you for free.
Speaker 4: And it does scream you know.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to take that and consider in the
Speaker 2: context of circumstances. Also, I may because you have to
Speaker 2: understand that what they used her for in the prosecution,
Speaker 2: so they had her do all these secret phone calls, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's California's two party consent state.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, there you go the mel Gibsondom.
Speaker 3: Right or that or the Clippers owner, remember that one?
Speaker 4: Oh do I that racist son of a bitch right
Speaker 4: the attorney.
Speaker 5: You'll you'll like this JJ, the attorney that represented Amber.
Speaker 5: He's an all Red Mormon. Fucking Gloria. Oh it was Gloria.
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, it's either her daughter. I couldn't remember
Speaker 3: which one it was. They're always involved in these That's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So she started unpacking the anatomy of
Speaker 3: these high profile events. You start seeing these patterns of
Speaker 3: the same people in activities.
Speaker 4: Dude, when you told me it was a high profile celebrity,
Speaker 4: like I said, she told me this last night. I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was Gloria. That just adds credence to
Speaker 4: the sensationalization of the trial.
Speaker 5: All Red.
Speaker 4: They also I've seen Nancy Grace go off about this
Speaker 4: case and all she does is say he's guilty, he
Speaker 4: was a he was a philanderin cheater, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: but where's the evidence of him killing her? You're just
Speaker 4: taught you're doing character defamation here. You're not laying out
Speaker 4: a compelling case that he's guilty. It's just like we
Speaker 4: told you he's guilty, he did this, this.
Speaker 5: This, and this.
Speaker 4: We don't need to talk about real evidence.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's I think that's where Nancy Grace
Speaker 3: came on the stage was in this case.
Speaker 4: Right mm hmm. I think it's one of the things
Speaker 4: that brought her to.
Speaker 3: National public public mindset. Huh h.
Speaker 5: Is there a picture of the crib by itself?
Speaker 3: JJ Let me let me look at here, because that's where.
Speaker 5: She had like all the little boat stuff and like
Speaker 5: the life preserver raft. Yes, ma'am, that is not that
Speaker 5: is not traditional baby stuff.
Speaker 6: Look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I understand we're saying that. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not just crediting it. I do, like, I like
Speaker 2: your brain holes out on this theory. But they again,
Speaker 2: their first day was fishing, was a big fisherman.
Speaker 4: It tracks, but it just adds a little twist to them.
Speaker 5: I feel like it adds to the twist of this
Speaker 5: is staged as fucked, just like how they brought up
Speaker 5: Martha Stewart and how the episode of Martha Stewart that
Speaker 5: she was supposedly watching that morning about making merangue pie
Speaker 5: or whatever, and they had to play that episode for
Speaker 5: everybody in the court.
Speaker 4: I believe it was Krimberlet.
Speaker 5: It was merangue pie.
Speaker 1: Well, I heard another story where he was going to
Speaker 1: be making she was going to be making French toast.
Speaker 5: I mean it depends on another story that she was
Speaker 5: supposed to be making a gingerbread fucking.
Speaker 4: House and he calls her about getting a fruit basket.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, they really build up this big Christmas dinner
Speaker 1: that tragically.
Speaker 5: Is going on.
Speaker 3: There is a lot of that.
Speaker 2: There is a lot of narrative building that goes on
Speaker 2: around both sides of this case. You don't make us
Speaker 2: some good points, So if we we're just we can
Speaker 2: go past the lies and just want to point out
Speaker 2: that his family does make a good argument for all
Speaker 2: these lies and points out the only that he lies
Speaker 2: the police about is that golf fishing instead of golf
Speaker 2: and an amber fry and is an accurate statement. And
Speaker 2: they didn't have even well, I have a clip from
Speaker 2: garat Goos and Gang. They even point out there is
Speaker 2: no gaps in his chronology of events that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also I think the thing with Annember getting
Speaker 1: an attorney, I think Amber is a liar too. I
Speaker 1: think Amber knew he was married, and then when this
Speaker 1: missing person thing came to attention, she was like, oh, fuck.
Speaker 2: Well, now now you're gonna bring Now you're dancing to
Speaker 2: my territory of theory, sir, so, I think Scott Peterson,
Speaker 2: like much like many people involved in these high profile
Speaker 2: events that are being framed as Patsy's and situations, are
Speaker 2: part of a sex coal. I'm not gonna say it's
Speaker 2: specifically Thley Maker process. But let's take for example, this
Speaker 2: is the theory of John Cameron and the overarching theory
Speaker 2: of how ed Edwards operates is he infiltrates folks lives
Speaker 2: through faking to be a doctor of psychiatry, which the
Speaker 2: CIA gave him credentials for back in nineteen fifty five
Speaker 2: and was reissued numerous times after prison stents. By the way, uh,
Speaker 2: doctor James Garfield Langley was his name, that was his credentials.
Speaker 2: He even got married under the name on the same
Speaker 2: day he got married with the name d Edwards. That's
Speaker 2: weird because they're both those wives are filed in Idaho
Speaker 2: at the same time, same judges and magistrates and same
Speaker 2: stamps too weird.
Speaker 4: Do they just think of these nicknames on a whim
Speaker 4: or these su they're creative?
Speaker 2: Right, doctor James James Garfield president and then Langley the
Speaker 2: headquarters of the CIA.
Speaker 4: Right, We'll never know what it really meant. Oh, I
Speaker 4: never got together really and Cameron.
Speaker 2: In Camera's book on Edwards, he does point out a
Speaker 2: number of cases where Edwards is caught framing people and
Speaker 2: testifying or providing uh information to police as informants against
Speaker 2: the murders he commits. So in these theories, if he
Speaker 2: was set up and he set up, Camera makes a
Speaker 2: very strong case for this one because it's the Ed's
Speaker 2: psychosis or psychopathy was diagnosed the age of thirteen, when
Speaker 2: he was also diagnosed and given an IQ test of
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty two. Psychopathy was rooted in this
Speaker 2: the fact that he was creating a lover's lane situation
Speaker 2: in the back of a car and a one night
Speaker 2: stand and he and he attacked folks of infidelity and
Speaker 2: set up cheating spouses, and he'd been caught doing this
Speaker 2: in the other cases by camera. So Camra, you know,
Speaker 2: draw some comparisons to this one and says this has
Speaker 2: got a lot of ED stuff on it. But again
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is it saying it adds network
Speaker 2: at least, right.
Speaker 4: So he's talking about Peterson when he says.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, the key there is he would have inserted
Speaker 2: himself into Scott Peterson's life. Noticed Let's say, for example,
Speaker 2: he's Peterson's part of this cult network that AD's part of.
Speaker 2: So that's how he initially gets even brought in to
Speaker 2: even find a patsy to set up, find finds a
Speaker 2: patsy that fits his omo, that's a cheating his spouse,
Speaker 2: because it's easy then to blame that person first and
Speaker 2: foremost it fits Eds, you know, is you know, mental
Speaker 2: fucking health issues by framing somebody of something he hates. Right,
Speaker 2: So you know there's a lot to be said about
Speaker 2: in those things. But let's say he isn't a cult Well,
Speaker 2: that's how Ed got ed or whoever set up Scott
Speaker 2: Peterson got involved in it. Scott's Peterson's involved in this
Speaker 2: drug distribution aspect of manufacturing.
Speaker 3: Well, then it's not that big of a jump.
Speaker 2: Don't think to assume he's in a sex cult when
Speaker 2: he's got all these you know, female partners. We're processing
Speaker 2: cell situation, right.
Speaker 1: So what's your opinion on Amber then, because you said
Speaker 1: as dancing in your brain hole on that.
Speaker 2: I think she's a whore. I think she's a she's
Speaker 2: a dirty whore. And I think she was used for
Speaker 2: by the state for the state's ends. And I think
Speaker 2: most of what she said later was to fit their narrative.
Speaker 2: And she did all these recordings with him after between
Speaker 2: December and April that she did all these recordings, and
Speaker 2: you know, none of the ship even he says, seems
Speaker 2: indicat he was guilty of anything other than being a
Speaker 2: you know, cheating spouse and a bitch Peterson.
Speaker 4: And a fucking processing and drug runner.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a perfect He's a perfect Patsy. So you
Speaker 2: know he's a dumb and depraved. We know those things, right,
Speaker 2: He's not I mean, he's not intelligent and we know
Speaker 2: he's depraved. So's if it's the mold of somebody would
Speaker 2: be involved in that. He's got a number of cheating
Speaker 2: with a number of women, that that's another characteristic, then
Speaker 2: we could throw in that bucket.
Speaker 3: Seems to be involved in the meth production.
Speaker 2: That again, Charles Manson and the Hell's Angels were doing
Speaker 2: meth in Modesto fifty sixty years ago, right seven years
Speaker 2: ago now, so times haven't changed much. I think it
Speaker 2: may still be the same network. And speaking of the
Speaker 2: Idaho for the victim's family, Kaylee Gunzalvez, her father who
Speaker 2: wears Hell's they do family photos with Hell's Angel stuff on,
Speaker 2: and their family photos up there in Quardolen, Idaho, you know,
Speaker 2: a few miles away from that Arian nation's compound. Tho'se Nazis,
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal. Uh, They're from Methdesto and
Speaker 2: his brother is a confirmed Nazi in prison for murder.
Speaker 2: So I don't know that all of these things are
Speaker 2: all that disconnected.
Speaker 5: Well, if I can just be honest with you, Amber
Speaker 5: looks like I mean, Lacey was beautiful if she was
Speaker 5: a real person. But they pull out these pictures of
Speaker 5: Amber and then you see her and it's like, where
Speaker 5: the fuck did you get this one from? She looked
Speaker 5: like she she had like bleached blonde hair, big blue eyes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: She they may have found her in the valley doing
Speaker 3: porn with that twin raised lady.
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what I'm saying is she looked like a
Speaker 5: porn star, didn't.
Speaker 1: She like the girl next door? Now search know then
Speaker 1: your porn searches the girl do in the trailer park?
Speaker 4: What's that said?
Speaker 3: The trailer park next door?
Speaker 4: The girl in the next trailer Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Double, the double? Why down the street? Say even in
Speaker 3: the idea that this is a fictional event, I mean,
Speaker 3: how where else would you find a compromise individual to
Speaker 3: play the part the porn industry? Great spot? You loving
Speaker 3: to recruit somebody for that role. It's a great spot.
Speaker 5: She really does look like that though. And then her
Speaker 5: attorney like I said, I'll represent.
Speaker 4: You for free glow Jello. Why I didn't know that
Speaker 4: was her? That's blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to look at a couple of clips
Speaker 2: from Garry Gos, you know, the guy who represented Peterson,
Speaker 2: who maintains innocence today and has made some comments recently
Speaker 2: since Peterson's case has been picked up, uh by the
Speaker 2: La Innocence Project, which is different than the original Innocence Project.
Speaker 3: Get to this whole network. What's that, sir?
Speaker 4: I said? In the Innocence Project will be the very
Speaker 4: first to tell you that's not us.
Speaker 3: I know they do, right.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing to differentiate. So we
Speaker 2: see the Innocence Projects born out of the Orenthal James
Speaker 2: Simpson case and is not his dream team, his nightmare team.
Speaker 2: And we see a lot of bullshit around that connecting
Speaker 2: to the Idaho four case too, just saying, but we
Speaker 2: see this, this organization by his attorney, Barry Shrek, was
Speaker 2: was created to suddenly use all this new fangled technologies
Speaker 2: and forensic evidence in dnaight dexignery, folks. And when they've
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety two or when they created themselves there
Speaker 2: I think of exonerated less than two hundred people.
Speaker 5: This is from the OJ trial.
Speaker 3: That's where I was born out of. Really, so Barry
Speaker 3: Shrek started the project right before.
Speaker 2: The Ornthal James Simpson case and then joined that team
Speaker 2: and this was really propelled into the international fame of
Speaker 2: this project.
Speaker 5: But the one that represents Scott indifferent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the La Innocence Projects, that's.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, yep.
Speaker 2: So this the original Innocence Project, took in twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars in twenty twenty, and that's a lot of money
Speaker 2: and the way they spent it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 1: No, you go ahead after we're done talking about the
Speaker 1: Innocence Project and get back to the LA I'll make money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to get it.
Speaker 2: I just want to get a quick I want to
Speaker 2: make sure my numbers is correct because I haven't looked
Speaker 2: at h in a few years, but I feel like
Speaker 2: a number of years ago they had like two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty eight total exoneration. So it's it's important to
Speaker 2: consider that because no one wants liability. The states don't
Speaker 2: want liability.
Speaker 3: Uh the I heard we go.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I was off by a factor of ten.
Speaker 2: It's twenty nine and thirty nine convicted defendants who were
Speaker 2: exonerated through DNA. So you know that's important to note though,
Speaker 2: because what are they doing with all that money and
Speaker 2: no state?
Speaker 3: No state?
Speaker 2: So let's just say Scott Peterson did not do it.
Speaker 2: Is again, as I started off this conversation, that's my position, Well,
Speaker 2: he would sue the State of California when main's dollars,
Speaker 2: just like Steven Avery did right when he when he
Speaker 2: did that in Wisconsin. So these ideas of the innocence
Speaker 2: projects are a fucking are part of the sy op
Speaker 2: of mine opinion. There's no one trying to exonerate anybody.
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing John Cameron argues about Ed
Speaker 2: Edwards is that he was informed it was in an
Speaker 2: FBI informant from nineteen fifty one, a CIA operator from
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five, and a domestic terror campaign operations of
Speaker 2: Project Chaos like his friend Charles Manson, And so no
Speaker 2: one's gonna say anything about the No one wants say
Speaker 2: anthing about Ed first and foremost, and secondly, no one
Speaker 2: wants to attribute any murders to him because he's put
Speaker 2: people in prison in those terror operations. People got executed
Speaker 2: for murders they did not commit, just like Scott Peterson
Speaker 2: could is in case the fact that he fits that
Speaker 2: same mold as I was saying before with Ed and
Speaker 2: his network. So I'm just saying there there's no motivations
Speaker 2: to exonerate anybody or do any of these innosis projects.
Speaker 2: I was kind of shocked that anyone took up Peterson's case.
Speaker 1: Well, and you had to get into that he actually
Speaker 1: reached out to them, and the story goes, and I
Speaker 1: do believe the evidence that they're talking about right now
Speaker 1: because I mentioned earlier JJ said there was ten witnesses
Speaker 1: that saw the dog walk and one that stuck out
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 4: I know about three of them. In particular.
Speaker 1: One guy was gassing up his car, saw Lacey walking by,
Speaker 1: described similar clothes to another guy that saw on the
Speaker 1: same street. Remembers looking at the dog side note dog
Speaker 1: star dogs come up way too fucking often in this
Speaker 1: try no, but anyway, so they see her and then
Speaker 1: a woman I think this is the most damning evidence
Speaker 1: of all sees an orange van sees at the Medina
Speaker 1: household on the twenty fourth. This is her testimony. She
Speaker 1: drives by real slow, she's old. She said she wouldn't
Speaker 1: have looked twice, but there is two nefarious guys who
Speaker 1: seemed to fit the description of these two that did
Speaker 1: admit they robbed the home. So she says, as she
Speaker 1: passes by, she looks and in her mirror she sees
Speaker 1: a woman squatting down and urinating next to the van,
Speaker 1: and then an arm reaches out and grabs her and
Speaker 1: pulls her in.
Speaker 2: Have you heard that's corrector if I may, that's a
Speaker 2: brown van though, right, because that's part of the confusion
Speaker 2: that's been going on.
Speaker 4: I've noticed in it was orange when I heard it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think, well, I.
Speaker 2: Think the orange van is the new piece of evidence
Speaker 2: they've introduced to this and it's this project stuff that
Speaker 2: the law enforcement never tested. And I got a clip
Speaker 2: on that. The van I think that was the connected
Speaker 2: to the robbers was a tan or brown van. I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, but that's I believe that's the one from
Speaker 2: You may be right, It may be in the orange
Speaker 2: van this lady's seen today, but there was The police
Speaker 2: initially claimed they had cleared the robbers, the burglars and
Speaker 2: their van, but and there was a lot of confusion
Speaker 2: that was then later made about that orange van.
Speaker 3: No, you're right. So the state tried to conflate these
Speaker 3: vans and they did a good job of it.
Speaker 4: So the states, the state said brown or tan.
Speaker 2: No, there was two different vans, and they try to
Speaker 2: make everyone believe that. Pay no attention to the orange
Speaker 2: van with the blood in it.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, a bloody mattress.
Speaker 2: And I got a claim on that from the guy
Speaker 2: who found it, from the firefighter who found it, So
Speaker 2: I was wrong. There was actually twenty four sidings within
Speaker 2: her normal one mile alreadies of her home, of her
Speaker 2: dog walk.
Speaker 4: There in court. Geregus, you fucking probably did not.
Speaker 5: This is the first time I'm hearing about twenty four sightings.
Speaker 4: Me too, But the tree that I know about, Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2: They reported the proper, proper clothing she was last seeing
Speaker 2: eating breakfast with that morning with Scott, and they reported
Speaker 2: the dog and they'd seen her before this was her
Speaker 2: normal route. So that's very interesting, right, we got all
Speaker 2: these you know, you know again the state, I mean,
Speaker 2: the state's timeline again has so many problems because they
Speaker 2: started arguing with timeline that they later changed throughout the
Speaker 2: course of their even fucking trial.
Speaker 3: Man, it's just so weird.
Speaker 5: Well, uh, I just wanted to say something really quick
Speaker 5: on Colby's point. Let's just say that this is all
Speaker 5: fake and staged. Yeah, engaged, okay, but let's just say that, right,
Speaker 5: and like the weirdness around, like where's the ultrasound pictures?
Speaker 5: Why was why is there conflicting information about the tour
Speaker 5: soo versus the all of it, Let's just say it's
Speaker 5: all fake and that's why it doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 5: you mentioned how often the dog comes up in this case.
Speaker 5: Guess what the name Connor means?
Speaker 4: What Irish dog?
Speaker 5: Lover of hounds?
Speaker 3: Come on, lover of hounds?
Speaker 4: All right, Julia, can I ask you at this point,
Speaker 4: I'm dying to know. Are you still? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: This is all theater, okay, but let's pretend. Let's pretend
Speaker 1: it's real.
Speaker 7: Though.
Speaker 4: Is he the killer?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: I did it? JJ, We're not even done yet.
Speaker 3: Nice. Well, I'm I'm trying to think this is not
Speaker 3: This may not be real because we were talking about
Speaker 3: high profile celebrity attorneys. I mean, look at look, so
Speaker 3: we got all right on one side, we got Gary
Speaker 3: gos on the other. You know, he's he was already
Speaker 3: defending Michael Jackson before this trial, right, the Jackson attorney. Later,
Speaker 3: I might I might have gotten those mistakes.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it was before. And Robert Downey Junior as well.
Speaker 1: I mean this guy was right, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when Robert Downey Junior woke up in his
Speaker 2: neighbor's son's bed, Oh yeah, that's normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the Now he's a vegan, fucking Tello
Speaker 1: and also all how to live?
Speaker 4: Fuck that guy?
Speaker 2: Down Junior wakes up down down Malibu beach, and not
Speaker 2: even his next door neighbor just down the beach neighbor's
Speaker 2: bed of the like their twelve year old son, and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I thought this was my bed And
Speaker 2: then go fuck yourself from.
Speaker 5: When you said that thing about the dog Star.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the Connor thing. I didn't even know about.
Speaker 5: Lover of Hounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a wild dude. Well, I mean everyone, No,
Speaker 3: that's a great All these all these ancient alien cargo
Speaker 3: colt fuckers, they all love serious. So the dog Star.
Speaker 3: So that's a it's an interesting point.
Speaker 5: Fuck.
Speaker 2: So here Garrett Goes is gonna tell us about this
Speaker 2: new La Innocence project here and then he's gonna he's
Speaker 2: gonna go over some of the salient characteristics of why
Speaker 2: the state uh, their their bullshit case and the evidence
Speaker 2: that they didn't have against Peterson and the evidence and
Speaker 2: is you know, the exculpatory evidence if you will, it's.
Speaker 6: Important murder trial. Mark, thanks so much for being with us.
Speaker 3: I'm way too fast. My apologies. I could probably play
Speaker 3: as in almost speed. I think on News Nation.
Speaker 8: Probably Yeah, I think we're allowed to show the narrative
Speaker 8: to point out that I hope, so America that picked
Speaker 8: up this case is a completely separate entity from the
Speaker 8: storied reputable Innocence Project that we are, the storied reputable
Speaker 8: innocence project in your mind and the strength of this fight.
Speaker 7: No, not really. The Innocence Project that picked up this
Speaker 7: case was formed a couple of years ago in Los
Speaker 7: Angeles and has a somebody who used to be at
Speaker 7: a project the Loyal Law School where I went deposit
Speaker 7: pears that they've been doing.
Speaker 3: I was, I was just I got lost in the swite.
Speaker 4: I interrupted you.
Speaker 1: I interrupted you because this is allays right, just like
Speaker 1: his fucking bookshelf.
Speaker 4: What the fuck kind of bookshelf is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe, like you, No, I
Speaker 2: mean again, dude, I don't have a lot of faith
Speaker 2: in this dude's being a good attorney. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you know the statement you make about he left a
Speaker 2: lot of shit out by putting on a good show,
Speaker 2: I would say that saying about Annan Sailor's.
Speaker 1: All right if this is fake, I just want to say,
Speaker 1: I said, he looked so much like Ben Affleck with
Speaker 1: the gone girl thing. That could fucking be Ben Affleck
Speaker 1: playing this role with the fucking little double Chin added
Speaker 1: with some prosthetics.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I'd like to do an ear compared.
Speaker 4: I like you, dude, because this could be Ted Bundy
Speaker 4: Jack Nicholson style.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 2: What you're saying is in this Gone Girl theory, sir,
Speaker 2: you're saying that the Gone Girl movie was depicting in
Speaker 2: real life events and they're just kind of bragging about it,
Speaker 2: not in.
Speaker 4: A wink to it.
Speaker 1: I think that circumstantially it's very similar the story. Like
Speaker 1: you remember the scene where you're wondering if he what's
Speaker 1: going on in his head and he's standing out in
Speaker 1: his driveway at night. Then his fucking side bitch comes
Speaker 1: up and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You're supposed to think that fucker's guilty through the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and then you find out the bitch isn't even dead
Speaker 1: spoiler the movie.
Speaker 3: My only question is where does Neil Patrick Harris playing
Speaker 3: to this?
Speaker 4: Okay? Was was he in that movie?
Speaker 3: In that movie, sir, he was the one that got marked.
Speaker 4: I forgot all about his role of that.
Speaker 2: That is Rosamund Pike, that scandalous bitch, the one that
Speaker 2: faked your death. So you're saying, Lacy Peterson fake your death,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying in this theory.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it's a nod in a wink.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm saying it could just be the the
Speaker 1: dog whistle to say, look again at Scott Peterson, because.
Speaker 2: Let's present a scenario then when they're both in the
Speaker 2: colt and the somehow the cult is gonna frame him
Speaker 2: because he you know, for whatever impetus behind that whatever.
Speaker 2: And let me give you an example of another circumstances
Speaker 2: that may have occurred. So the Fight Club author speaking
Speaker 2: of David Fincher right that he didn't didn't he did
Speaker 2: fight Club right? The author, Chuck Palainook's father was murdered
Speaker 2: on May twenty eighth, nineteen ninety nine in Ley Tall County, Idaho.
Speaker 2: The woman he allegedly met on a classified out a
Speaker 2: few months prior who was murdered with the murder. The
Speaker 2: man in prison today is her ex husband, Dale Shackleford,
Speaker 2: convicted child rapist. Before he even married that lady, she
Speaker 2: was an attorney, met him in prison while he was
Speaker 2: on that rape charge. So hard man to defend, but
Speaker 2: no evidence against Dale in any regards to the murders.
Speaker 3: And furthermore, Dale and his wife seemed to be part
Speaker 3: of this, speaking of meth trafficking.
Speaker 9: He had a.
Speaker 2: Convicted kid Titler opened up a trucking company with his
Speaker 2: lawyer wife transporting chemicals from the ozarks of Missouri Common
Speaker 2: Area Nations Hotspot to Idaho Common Area Nations Hotspot and
Speaker 2: meth trafficking operations. And they all have sex cult stuff
Speaker 2: going on around him. He's got like three or four
Speaker 2: side pieces. When it comes to trial, they all testify
Speaker 2: against him. The woman in the burnout cabin, the wood
Speaker 2: Chuck Palace, Kanok's father, the two deceased in this. In
Speaker 2: this matter, the alleged ex wife of Dale Shackle for
Speaker 2: the kid diddling apparently met trafficker sex coultist Uh. She
Speaker 2: didn't have a uterus or sorry disregard the body in
Speaker 2: the war and the burn up cabin had a uterus,
Speaker 2: the one that was there with Chuck Palinuk's dad Fred,
Speaker 2: the alleged deceased woman had no uterus. So if these
Speaker 2: are matters of a sex cult turning against the party
Speaker 2: and framing stuff and currently have some operations, we see
Speaker 2: more patterns of that across time and space in different
Speaker 2: locations across the mayriorica.
Speaker 4: This wondering uterus keeps coming out.
Speaker 3: Right, the wandering uterus case, that's a good name for it.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, that's a legitimate We did that insanity
Speaker 1: or a mental illness series, and that was a real thing.
Speaker 1: But that they were saying made women crazy. But they
Speaker 1: looked at it as like a little hound dog that
Speaker 1: like to roam around in the woman and it would
Speaker 1: make her crazy.
Speaker 4: But anyway, what was that.
Speaker 1: They back in the day, they would say that the
Speaker 1: woman had a wondering uterus. If it was too high,
Speaker 1: you needed to entice it back down to the bulvar
Speaker 1: aia with some smells, or if it was too.
Speaker 4: Low and there was like a hound dog. They said,
Speaker 4: it's like a hound dog like it was right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So to me, when you look at the tors so
Speaker 1: that they found, they always say, all of our internal
Speaker 1: organs are missing other than the uterus with lacy.
Speaker 4: So the uterus just keeps coming back up in these things.
Speaker 3: That's very interesting. Often. I'm glad you pointed that out, sir.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on a uterus hunt now not in
Speaker 3: real life.
Speaker 4: Well I knew you had to, dude.
Speaker 2: I was utterly stunned when I read that stuff on
Speaker 2: Dale Shackle for his case, his lawyers argued it in
Speaker 2: their trial. And you know what, the state, by all appearances,
Speaker 2: there's no evidence of state ever disp I can find
Speaker 2: no record of let's they just ignored it. They just
Speaker 2: igport it. You know, so you know, maybe we might
Speaker 2: be honest something there may be more importance. If you're
Speaker 2: talking about the serious worship and some sort of connections
Speaker 2: of the uterus. Well, we just identified two weird uterus
Speaker 2: cases here, didn't we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just.
Speaker 5: Say that even if this story is fake, the way
Speaker 5: that they talk about the discovery of the torso very
Speaker 5: significant in the district. Well, we found just the torso
Speaker 5: and just the uterus. And then like Connor was found.
Speaker 1: With the fucking string of twine tight around his neck,
Speaker 1: not something the ocean would do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a piece of tape on his
Speaker 2: ear not accounted for. It reminds me of the John
Speaker 2: Benney case where they have the twine and the and
Speaker 2: the and the the Garrett that they've never really accounted for.
Speaker 2: The stun gun stuff. Again, things that are not that
Speaker 2: were not sourced from inside that home so and again
Speaker 2: back to Ed Edwards. John Cameron claims ed was that
Speaker 2: Santa Claus guy that that John Bane was telling everybody about,
Speaker 2: and then he would have infiltrated the home on the
Speaker 2: Christmas part of the day before all that cut out.
Speaker 4: We did, so you'll probably get that recorded on your end.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was just saying that John that Ed
Speaker 2: Edwards theory of John Cameron. He claims that that camera's
Speaker 2: responsible for John Beaney's as well, and that Edwards was
Speaker 2: the Santa Claus that John Bane was telling everyone about,
Speaker 2: and that Edwards would have been the guy that called
Speaker 2: them and won from the home Christmas party of the
Speaker 2: day prior, just to test the response time.
Speaker 5: Did you know that Hunter s Thompson wrote about the
Speaker 5: Santa Claus?
Speaker 3: I didn't, John Banks, I did not know that. Actually, ma'am,
Speaker 3: here's a process connection right there.
Speaker 4: Right and we know where he was running around at
Speaker 4: that time.
Speaker 5: Hunter s Thompson knew the Santa Claus that John Bennet
Speaker 5: was talking about.
Speaker 4: Or was the Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at this point, and that guy
Speaker 1: was a hero of mine at one point.
Speaker 2: It's certainly, I mean, I like the idea It's certainly possible.
Speaker 2: It did look just like Santa Claus at that time. No,
Speaker 2: I will note that white hair white.
Speaker 4: You're thinking Hunter was maybe running with Ed.
Speaker 3: I think Ad again is the general of their handed
Speaker 3: death team.
Speaker 2: So if hunters up in the pornography It's snuff film department,
Speaker 2: then he's going to know that.
Speaker 3: The guy in the head of the fucking you know,
Speaker 3: I'll look at us the corporation. You know that. You know?
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen the film No Country for Old Men? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, you know how I want to watch that with
Speaker 4: her at some point.
Speaker 2: I'd like to invite you all for a future in
Speaker 2: cult and est hotelic review on that film. I like
Speaker 2: the book, Cormick McCarthy's book, but I like the film
Speaker 2: as well, by the Coen Brothers. And you see in
Speaker 2: that film what I'm describing here in this corporate network.
Speaker 3: So you see.
Speaker 2: Milton from Office Space, who lost the Staplers, operating as
Speaker 2: some sort of managerial position in Midland, Texas where the
Speaker 2: bushes are from strangely right in a you know, and
Speaker 2: when Midlands is a weird are you have nothing but
Speaker 2: west desert of Texas, And then you have like this
Speaker 2: small block of skyscrapers you see off from the distance
Speaker 2: like a mirage.
Speaker 3: That's fucking Midland, you know, are in the Texas there.
Speaker 3: So that's what we see in the film The Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Did you do you think it was weird that Woody
Speaker 1: Harrelson was literally playing his father.
Speaker 4: In that movie?
Speaker 2: Well, that's where I was my point, sir. So we
Speaker 2: see what Harrelson playing a hitman within this network, right,
Speaker 2: which is again what his father did. And these people
Speaker 2: were just telling us their tails, right, And his father
Speaker 2: was in Texas in that era doing those things. He
Speaker 2: actually shot, shoots, gets convicted for the murder of Judge
Speaker 2: Roy Wood. I believe he's the second federal judge ever
Speaker 2: ever sitting judge, federal sitting judge ever murdered, ever murked
Speaker 2: in America. So he does that for the Naxkin drug cartel.
Speaker 2: So we see him working within this same network already
Speaker 2: that we see it depicting in that film. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's my I like what your brain holds that, sir.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's many consequences we see that, But.
Speaker 1: No, I got another one for you too. There's some
Speaker 1: monarch shit going on in that movie. Tommy Lee Jones
Speaker 1: is the fucking.
Speaker 4: Bad guy in that movie. Oh shit, dude, do you
Speaker 4: ever see it like recently?
Speaker 3: Do you remember right now? I remember I've seen that
Speaker 3: film a hundred of times.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when he's sitting in the TV and
Speaker 1: he grabs the milk and then there's the scene at
Speaker 1: the end where an what's his name, Anton or I
Speaker 1: don't remember.
Speaker 3: The Anton Antony? It is anton is you know?
Speaker 4: And yeah, So anyway, he goes up to the wife
Speaker 4: at the end of the movie. She knows who he is.
Speaker 1: She's seen him before, she and she knows she's gonna die.
Speaker 1: She has seen right, dude, that's right, that's right, Dan,
Speaker 1: And I mean watch it again with that Steven says.
Speaker 3: Are you the devil? Or are you dead? Something something
Speaker 3: in that regard.
Speaker 5: I want to watch that clip though that.
Speaker 2: I'll bring it right up. So in regards to them,
Speaker 2: now we're going to get too far off either. So
Speaker 2: we see what Harrelson and retired US Army colonel goes
Speaker 2: to this meeting with Milton from office space in this
Speaker 2: Midland office building in Texas to describe recouping the drug money.
Speaker 2: He's one of their guys and fills a role within
Speaker 2: this network. So he knows Anton, the other hit man guy, right,
Speaker 2: and they know the people that are in the distribution network,
Speaker 2: but they don't know that, you know, it's compartmentalized. They
Speaker 2: just know of these people in certain respects. So I
Speaker 2: assert that's how that operates in the real world. And
Speaker 2: they're just bragging about it by putting Mordy Harrelson in
Speaker 2: there because that's what his dad did. His dad wasn't
Speaker 2: forming an armory colonel, but nonetheless that was the role
Speaker 2: he played in Texas at that time for those people.
Speaker 2: So we see this being operating a corporate capacity. I
Speaker 2: would say again, we see a uh, you have a
Speaker 2: logistics distribution channels. You have your distribution you know, department
Speaker 2: of your logistics kind of supply department when Peterson would
Speaker 2: fall in. You know, you have other departments where folks
Speaker 2: may know of each other, you know, so you may
Speaker 2: have like a your top guy, like a Hunter s.
Speaker 2: Thompson may know an ed in that nowork right because
Speaker 2: of their you know, they're up in the upper echelont
Speaker 2: of this corporation. Yeah, they've been there for a long time.
Speaker 2: They've crossed pass over the decadeses kind of deal, right,
Speaker 2: So that's kind of way I look at it.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So Gary Goes brings up some interesting points here about
Speaker 2: the case against and lack thereof against Peterson. So I
Speaker 2: think the next one is at two minutes here, I'll
Speaker 2: fast forward to Maybe there we go an unpopular belief
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you go through the so called evidence
Speaker 7: in the case, I could debunk virtually every single thing.
Speaker 7: But people have, or a lot of people have a
Speaker 7: visceral reaction to this case that was not correspond to
Speaker 7: the evidence.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this was one of those infamous cases that the
Speaker 6: whole country followed. Speaking of the evidence, you know, I
Speaker 6: had a viewer right to me that it seems a
Speaker 6: lot of this hinges on the Medina burglary that happened,
Speaker 6: as well as the fact that police quote failed to
Speaker 6: investigate exculpatory evidence, but more police did verify the statements
Speaker 6: and alibis of those burglars. If there was police misconduct
Speaker 6: anywhere in this case, in a case of this magnitude,
Speaker 6: why would that not have been discovered the first time around?
Speaker 3: Well, it actually was the first time.
Speaker 7: The officers were trying to say that the burglary took
Speaker 7: place on the twenty six. Well, by the twenty six,
Speaker 7: as you subsequently would know, most of the news media
Speaker 7: was already camped out on that street.
Speaker 3: You pointed that out earlier, sir. That was a very
Speaker 3: salient characteristic of the bullshit that went on in this case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those big things that can't be overlooked.
Speaker 1: They needed to get their story straight and they fucked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you'd think they would do that during
Speaker 2: their investigation before he goes to trial.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, when you're like in the middle
Speaker 1: of a frame up in real time, you're going to
Speaker 1: slip up sometimes, and when you get dates and shit
Speaker 1: wrong like that. The way they tried to reach like
Speaker 1: go back and you know, set it straight, it just
Speaker 1: made it even look more suspicious in my opinion.
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. I got let this guy out.
Speaker 3: I'll give you one second.
Speaker 5: I actually have a question about this right now. So
Speaker 5: when are you guys, When are you guys thinking that
Speaker 5: the burglary happened in the twenty.
Speaker 4: Fourth, whatever day Lacey died or got nabbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened after one o'clock on the twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: when they had them internet searches.
Speaker 1: That Okay, that old woman just claims it was Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve when she saw the nefarious action going around that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was numerous corresponding accounts that seemed to indicate
Speaker 2: that was in fact when it occurred.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're.
Speaker 2: Believe because again there's so much Again, there's so much
Speaker 2: narrative that was spun here and the facts from fiction,
Speaker 2: it's tough to discern.
Speaker 3: Much like the Idaho four case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again the exculpatory evidence they did, they didn't
Speaker 2: test shit and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Same as Idaho four.
Speaker 2: There's blood on that famous knife sheet every one talks
Speaker 2: about with a touch DNA that actually had blood blood
Speaker 2: on it from other males that was never tested, so unidentified.
Speaker 2: Not Coburger's blood, so not the victim's blood. So again
Speaker 2: we see the same malfeasans by authorities. I think, because
Speaker 2: Garry Goes explains, while.
Speaker 7: An entire media scrum was out there in the middle
Speaker 7: of the street, this burglary took place number one. Number two.
Speaker 7: The other thing that has always rked me the day
Speaker 7: the jury convicted Scott. The prosecution handed me discovery on
Speaker 7: that very day that he was convicted.
Speaker 3: Where again i'da heard did the same thing to Brian Coberger.
Speaker 7: A lieutenant at the Chino Prison, had intercepted a call
Speaker 7: from an inmate to one of the burglars who were
Speaker 7: talking about Lacy Peterson and confronting her during the burglary.
Speaker 7: That tape went missing and they never disclosed that until
Speaker 7: the day of his conviction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe respond with your assessment has the very sounding
Speaker 2: characteristics in the innocence of the fact that Scott Peterson
Speaker 2: did not do it, and the malfeasans of law enforcement.
Speaker 2: The how do you get a recording from these burglars
Speaker 2: which they shit coat the timelines and narratives around these
Speaker 2: burglers in the event, you know what I mean, they
Speaker 2: move all these timelines and then you later have a
Speaker 2: tape that gets disclosed to the defense after he signs
Speaker 2: it guilty pleae, but the tape's actually lost.
Speaker 5: I don't understand what the significance is of that woman
Speaker 5: saying Lacey squatted down to pee.
Speaker 4: She's probably eight and a half months pregnant and neats
Speaker 4: to pee and begs the guys to let her pee,
Speaker 4: and they make her do it right on the ground.
Speaker 4: They don't want her to go.
Speaker 1: She's probably trying to buy time, get back in the house,
Speaker 1: try to get away or something, and they make her
Speaker 1: do it right there. She gets spotted by the old
Speaker 1: bitch and then they just yanker in the van, probably midstream.
Speaker 3: It's certainly a plausible scenario.
Speaker 4: And there's a mattress in there.
Speaker 3: You'll see they keep inflating these vans.
Speaker 2: We'll see in the next clip after Garagris the intentional
Speaker 2: conflation of these vans, which makes me, it seems to
Speaker 2: me indicates there's a lot more to both of those vans,
Speaker 2: because let's just say, maybe both fans were involved.
Speaker 3: Maybe they was a you know, they switch vehicles to
Speaker 3: some point. We've seen that in Afflack movie. He's the town.
Speaker 2: They do that in the town with Afflack. We're basing
Speaker 2: these theories off of Afflac films. I'm just saying, there
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you. What we got up next?
Speaker 3: Oh? Shoot, my bad, I didn't say this. I thought
Speaker 3: I was dude. I'm new, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: I hit played dude, I'm stupid, dude. Reason I like
Speaker 3: what Sharry and I hit.
Speaker 2: I was just watching Garret Griss myself. I didn't want
Speaker 2: you guys to join me. That's one of me and
Speaker 2: Gary Griss myself.
Speaker 8: I'm curious.
Speaker 6: I'm curious as an everyday American, who.
Speaker 3: Can y'all see that in here that.
Speaker 7: He was where a lieutenant at the prison had intercepted
Speaker 7: a call from an inmate to one of the burglars
Speaker 7: who were talking about Lacy Peterson and confronting her during
Speaker 7: the burglary. That tape went missing, and they never disclosed
Speaker 7: that until they of this conviction.
Speaker 6: And I'm assuming have you talked to the La Innocence Project.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm curious because I'm curious just as an
Speaker 6: everyday American who followed this case. I mean, in their
Speaker 6: eyes and you who just said I knew the evidence
Speaker 6: better than anybody else, what's the smoking gun here?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What's the smoking I was waiting for guns?
Speaker 6: It was possibly exoneration in the future. I mean, what's
Speaker 6: going to have to come forward for a new trial
Speaker 6: to actually come to fruition for Scott Peterson.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know that I would be in a
Speaker 7: position to characterize what they think. I have always thought
Speaker 7: that the fact the complete collapse of any kind of
Speaker 7: forensic evidence tying Scott to a crime. Remember that house
Speaker 7: and that bay were probably the most searched and forensically
Speaker 7: tested two areas at the time. There was nothing, So
Speaker 7: I think it makes it.
Speaker 2: That's one of my biggest points right there are like
Speaker 2: one of the biggest tagaways I have is when they
Speaker 2: do all this massive searching, you know, the amount of
Speaker 2: evidence they find. They like, we found like this, you know,
Speaker 2: some of Lacey's blood or a hair on a boat
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like one strand of hair, Like
Speaker 2: even if it was they're not planted, Like, it's not
Speaker 2: unreasonable to believe that these married partners would exchange such
Speaker 2: things as transporting a hair onto something, you know, another
Speaker 2: vehicle they go into. Again, it's not evidence of a crime,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, They're not evidence of this
Speaker 2: is we found the murder weapon, he took it, did
Speaker 2: this on this date, and did these things. And then
Speaker 2: when they try to paint those narratives, they have again,
Speaker 2: as we've already pointed out, changed their own their own
Speaker 2: theories mid trial.
Speaker 1: Well what do you what do you think about gergis Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think how can you sit here and say
Speaker 1: this the discovery process, Sure, but once new evidence comes
Speaker 1: to light and he waits until now to like, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's basically admitting that this did come out in time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's imagine this scenario of it's all, even
Speaker 2: if it's a real ven or not, there's still psychological
Speaker 2: operations and a magic show around it to distract folks
Speaker 2: attention from the real reality of the situation. So let's
Speaker 2: assume that unless he's playing a great role, right, he
Speaker 2: does his job well, he goes like this, my work
Speaker 2: here is done.
Speaker 5: So you think that he's in on it. You think
Speaker 5: that he's in on getting Scott falsely convicted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he was part of the real roading
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: And then another thing, as I call a nightmare team
Speaker 3: of Orenthal, James Simpson the only person that cared about
Speaker 3: Orentthel Jamesimpson. There was Pal Kardash and everyone else that
Speaker 3: was part of the railroad, part of the magic show.
Speaker 1: But he was only given a million dollars to do
Speaker 1: this case. That might sound like a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but people that have looked into these murders and like
Speaker 1: how the court stuff works, that's nothing. He should have
Speaker 1: gotten way more for this if this was legit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he you know, he's you know, what's he
Speaker 3: done for him?
Speaker 2: Since again, you know, I'm not don't want to speak
Speaker 2: for John Cameron, but to my understanding from statements i've
Speaker 2: heard him making previous shows years ago, the detective, the
Speaker 2: Edwards Detective. That is, he's reached out to reach out
Speaker 2: to all these guys like Garrick Gers and got no response.
Speaker 3: So that's to say something too.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, he's keeping the show going,
Speaker 4: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Yep, he's got some more. He's got some more statements
Speaker 3: to make them that they have recovered.
Speaker 7: They believe they'll do some testing there and they have
Speaker 7: to in reading the motion some other pieces of evidence
Speaker 7: that there appears.
Speaker 2: Now he says he's reading the motions. He's not involved
Speaker 2: in this case. He's simply read that Innocence project. Finally,
Speaker 2: and I've read the same thing, and again, this is
Speaker 2: the new Van, this is not the old Van, and
Speaker 2: we'll get it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't really, he doesn't really point that out here.
Speaker 7: Twenty years later, to be techniques that can be utilized
Speaker 7: that will potentially point to a complete exoneration. I will
Speaker 7: say it again, and I know I've said it already
Speaker 7: in this brief time I've had it with you. There
Speaker 7: is has never been any evidence as to how he
Speaker 7: did this, where he did this, or when he did this, remember,
Speaker 7: wasn't it?
Speaker 2: And that was the point I was making earlier there was,
Speaker 2: you know, standard investigation, you have to establish next this
Speaker 2: point of your suspect, who committed this crime, the victim
Speaker 2: of the crime, and the scene of that crime. And
Speaker 2: they did none of it. And they also did none
Speaker 2: of that night I who four. In fact, they've they've
Speaker 2: come out since the guilty plea there and said, oh,
Speaker 2: we can't even put him in the house. The cell
Speaker 2: phone tower shit was garbage. We don't know that he
Speaker 2: was stalking him. It's all fucking nonsense. And it's the
Speaker 2: same sort of you know playbook. Yeah, drugs has something
Speaker 2: to do with that. Theek them, Greek students on them
Speaker 2: to universities up There have been long standing drug distribution
Speaker 2: networks and a lot of Mexican cartel activity along with
Speaker 2: Arian Nations style drug trafficking. So when you mentioned those
Speaker 2: white nationalists earlier there, I was like, yeah, that sounds
Speaker 2: about right with these with these patterns behavior.
Speaker 1: Well, are you familiar with the incident I'm talking about
Speaker 1: that came forward where he apparently was, you know, one
Speaker 1: of his trips to Fresno. He was in a titty
Speaker 1: bar and two neo Nazi guys came forward and said
Speaker 1: that he approached them after he saw their tattoos and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and he said.
Speaker 4: How do you guys get rid of bodies? How do
Speaker 4: you transport them?
Speaker 1: So these two neo Nazi guys stepped forward saying that,
Speaker 1: and I think it's part of the railroading. They were
Speaker 1: trying to like add to his fucking case or the
Speaker 1: case against him.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: What better way to use compromise folks within your network
Speaker 2: to then stir this whole shit storm and send in
Speaker 2: a direction, the false direction of framing, framing up Scott Peterson.
Speaker 4: The same guys that knew he was dumping fucking.
Speaker 2: For example, for example, in the Oriental James Simpson case,
Speaker 2: two of the witnesses besides Bill Colby, not you, not
Speaker 2: Bill Coleby. Besides Bill Colby's son Carl Colby with primary witness,
Speaker 2: chief witness for the state against Orenttheal James Simpson, they
Speaker 2: used Denise Brown, who was dating a confirmed mafia made
Speaker 2: man hit Man confirmed Kills had done time before then,
Speaker 2: and he testified as well. So you have compromised parties
Speaker 2: testifying the frame these passies. That's what I would would
Speaker 2: have hurt there. Yeah, so this is the dude that
Speaker 2: finds the other vans. So let's it's interesting news.
Speaker 4: Names, isn't it with News Nation over this ship.
Speaker 3: Four two man fur Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: They're not the ones creating the propaganda, the ones disseminating
Speaker 2: in the propaganda though. It's our Howard Bloom who's working
Speaker 2: for Cocaine. Bob Evans, Buddy Grayton Carter had a Vandy
Speaker 2: Fair who employs Howard Bloom, who then they everyone repeats
Speaker 2: Howard Bloom, but they're the ones who do.
Speaker 3: They're the main mouthpiece.
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Actually, Banfield, who made her name in the Vegas kidnapping
Speaker 3: case of Orenthal James Simpson. Why is always going back
Speaker 3: to the same new work with these fuckers.
Speaker 4: That's when he went in armed to get some memorabilia back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was definitely set up for that too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: right man, that Orangeal James Sims.
Speaker 1: What was the kidnapping thing you're talking about? That's those
Speaker 1: are two different.
Speaker 3: That was it that was it an armed robbery? Kidnapping
Speaker 3: when you when you told me they can't leave, it's
Speaker 3: kidnapping and state Nevada.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did false imprisonment or whatever to get his back.
Speaker 2: That may have been a falseom prison in charge kind
Speaker 2: of memorabilia. So it is interesting though the people who
Speaker 2: perpetrate in controls. There is a news nation, as you
Speaker 2: point out, sir, is uh, certainly at the forefront.
Speaker 4: And that's interesting, Chris Cuomo, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't know who was behind the news Nation.
Speaker 1: I've never really looked into them.
Speaker 3: But that's al it's interesting. I think it's the now
Speaker 3: you mentioned. I think it was the Tribune.
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, the Tribune Media Corporation w used to
Speaker 2: be w g N out of Chicago. They became I
Speaker 2: believe they got rebranded, you know what I mean. But again,
Speaker 2: this is this is so, this is incidental reporting. No
Speaker 2: one cares about this case, I assure you. And again
Speaker 2: John Camer's made those statements on his instancesn't trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, bring justice to some of these matters. Even
Speaker 2: if he is wrong. Clearly he's onto something. Peterson did
Speaker 2: not do it. But you know, it's interesting, even though
Speaker 2: they're doing this incidental reporting, there's this ongoing shit coding
Speaker 2: between these two vans, the robbery van in which was
Speaker 2: a brown or tan one, and then this orange one.
Speaker 3: And we see this orange ones that the centerpiece.
Speaker 2: As Gary go has mentioned in that filing by the
Speaker 2: La Innocence Project, maybe there was.
Speaker 9: A van okay, an orange van there. It is was
Speaker 9: found a mile from Peterson's home. It was found by
Speaker 9: a Modesto fire inspector a day after Lacy Peterson went missing.
Speaker 9: So what Well, inside the van there was a mattress.
Speaker 9: On the mattress was a blood stain. The inspector says
Speaker 9: it was human blood.
Speaker 3: Here's what he told g m A.
Speaker 7: I don't know that I was tying the moment to Lacey.
Speaker 7: I was more tying the moment that it was human blood.
Speaker 7: It made it like this was much more important than.
Speaker 2: Just I'm gonna go ahead and say that was a
Speaker 2: comment that he was told to make, and that he
Speaker 2: was told you. You better not telling you to connect
Speaker 2: to this to Lacey from David Backley. You better tell
Speaker 2: him you didn't connect this from you.
Speaker 1: It would literally for any retard, and let alone a
Speaker 1: guy who's what is he a fire what inspector or something?
Speaker 3: Fire chief?
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a chief.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They hire retards to be the exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes the most.
Speaker 2: He goes the most because a lot of times they
Speaker 2: are the incident commander on scenes, right when they go
Speaker 2: to a mass casualty event or or a homicide that
Speaker 2: they're the ones that are calling the corners. The police
Speaker 2: are oftentimes are not the ones. You can't do anything
Speaker 2: yet it's all medical focus at first. Right, So as
Speaker 2: a result of fire chiefs were the onsecene commanders until
Speaker 2: like a police a police chief shows up for like
Speaker 2: a police captain. So this dude's Gondam, it's Matt Desktoh,
Speaker 2: it's not his first homicide scene, and he's not the
Speaker 2: first time he's seen bloody because he's like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: definitely human blood.
Speaker 3: I can smell it.
Speaker 2: I can tell the very specific tents of zinc in
Speaker 2: that blood, you know what I mean, Like, this dude
Speaker 2: seen blood before.
Speaker 5: Right, So they found it because it was all burnt up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody drove it a mile away from the house,
Speaker 1: set it on fire, presumably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't find until after it had been basically
Speaker 2: been extinguished. But again they didn't get rid of the evidence.
Speaker 2: You know what, Ed didn't get rid of evidence in
Speaker 2: numerous arsens that he committed. That's why he went to
Speaker 2: jail when he when he attempted to burn a Marietta
Speaker 2: Police Department sergeant's uniform from Marietta, Georgia, back in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty two, where it seems that Ed had infiltrated the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Child Killing Task Force faking to be a MARIAD.
Speaker 2: A police sergeant tried to burn up that uniform in
Speaker 2: a Pennsylvania home, didn't work and got arrested by the
Speaker 2: FEDS for arson. They found the uniform in the closet.
Speaker 5: So on December twenty fourth, she goes for a walk
Speaker 5: at some point after one pm, after she's searched sunflower dresses.
Speaker 1: She gets home with the dogs. She sees the guys
Speaker 1: across the street where they see her. They're probably there
Speaker 1: to naber I've heard I've heard people say that she
Speaker 1: approached them to be like, what are you doing in
Speaker 1: the Medina house, But it would be more like they
Speaker 1: were there to grab her, and then the robbery is
Speaker 1: just a red herring.
Speaker 2: So the last known sighting from the eyewitness reports. I
Speaker 2: believe was just prior to one.
Speaker 4: Pm, unless you count the woman.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, I'm sorry with her dog, with her dog,
Speaker 3: with her dog.
Speaker 1: So the dog runs off and gets grabbed by a neighbor, right,
Speaker 1: a neighbor puts it in the backyard.
Speaker 4: Yep, Okay, So what I mean just that.
Speaker 3: It's it's like, well, yeah, but as you heard from
Speaker 3: Garry Goes, the state never tried to provide an nextus
Speaker 3: point from when Scott allegedly kidnapped his wife and then
Speaker 3: left the dog behind on the leak. They never even
Speaker 3: argued that right.
Speaker 1: And as Julia pointed out, if you were given a
Speaker 1: doctor's note to not take a walk, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that you're not going to.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's concrete proof of everything. Yeah, she had.
Speaker 1: A few different people coroborate that story, a yoga teacher,
Speaker 1: her mother. But I fucking know, I've been around two
Speaker 1: pregnant women. I know how stir crazy they get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if she's like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good to date. It's Christmas Eve, it's holiday cheer.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a fucking walk today.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it easy.
Speaker 1: I'm just walking Mackenzie down to the park and she's
Speaker 1: seen by twenty four fucking people.
Speaker 2: So, in regards to this reporting, real time reporting back
Speaker 2: in the case unfolded of the timeline of events. So
Speaker 2: December thirtieth, less than a week after her Lacey goes missing,
Speaker 2: Modesta detectives raced over to investigate in the trading lead,
Speaker 2: a fresh nay massage therapist named Amber Fry revealed that
Speaker 2: she'd been dating Scott Peterson forever a month.
Speaker 3: So they've always played these games.
Speaker 4: Of how they learned about that massage therapist.
Speaker 1: We're talking about that horror network excuse me, ding network,
Speaker 1: and uh what do we look at? Why was why
Speaker 1: were all these women going to Epstein? They were giving it.
Speaker 1: The high school girls were given two hundred dollars handies.
Speaker 2: I think it's important to note this statement by that detective.
Speaker 2: Former detective Bueller noted her recall was fantastic. It was
Speaker 2: almost like it was a script from a Hallmark TV
Speaker 2: show or something whose dual I recalled every detail of
Speaker 2: their romantic dates.
Speaker 1: Come on, Bueler, whose builder does he come up? More
Speaker 1: than like I know, I don't recognize that naw, he was.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's like actually saying real shit, and
Speaker 1: he didn't really get covered in the true crime presentation.
Speaker 4: There you go, because I've not heard that name come up.
Speaker 2: Then they get hurt of record phone calls and they
Speaker 2: do this massive press conference in the twenty fourth right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot of like if you're going
Speaker 2: to build up of uh, you know, if you're doing
Speaker 2: a fictional narrative, you want you know, you have the storyline,
Speaker 2: you got to build up the suspense, right, And.
Speaker 4: It's a script if you ask Buehler.
Speaker 3: Well, Bueller just told you areas from Hallmark.
Speaker 4: It was a Hallmark script and it basically is that
Speaker 4: quality of production.
Speaker 3: So then April thirteenth and fourteenth is when the bodies
Speaker 3: appear up.
Speaker 2: And again they don't go over the forensic evidence where
Speaker 2: indicates these they decompositions are different.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And that is we're to
Speaker 3: believe the later DNA evidence. They claimed that confirming the
Speaker 3: torso was Lacey's.
Speaker 1: No head though no head, no internal organs other than
Speaker 1: the uterus, no legs, that uterus did not wonder is
Speaker 1: stayed home, even though all the other organs left.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, oh, dude, you remember this. The jurors.
Speaker 3: They even made a show out of the jurors.
Speaker 4: She wrote this motherfucker seventeen letters.
Speaker 1: She was one of the reasons that they want to
Speaker 1: do appeal because she had some domestic violence issues and
Speaker 1: she had she was when she was being knocked around,
Speaker 1: and she left that out of the initial jury deliberate.
Speaker 1: What is it when they sort through him, she would
Speaker 1: have been dismissed in a fucking second. And then she
Speaker 1: writes this guy letters he wrote back eighteen times. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see those.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've been told he's very active as a pen pal in.
Speaker 1: Prison, especially some fucking redheaded little starlet trying to get.
Speaker 3: Fair out of it. I mean, there you go again.
Speaker 2: The guy doesn't seem brilliant, right, He's obviously he's got
Speaker 2: some you know, situations going on. So let's assume this.
Speaker 2: Let's if we can bring this in for a landing here.
Speaker 2: Not Bill Colby and Julia cosmic Peach. I appreciate your
Speaker 2: times in these conversations on our swamp casts. You kind
Speaker 2: of were kind of the some of the sailing characteristics
Speaker 2: of the not case against Scott Peters and some of
Speaker 2: the bigger questions that remained. Let's assume it was a
Speaker 2: real event. Now, let me just throw this one at
Speaker 2: you on my closing statements on these things. Sims real event,
Speaker 2: the scene's actually happened. She actually did die, was a
Speaker 2: real person. There were two other incidents that fit the
Speaker 2: exact mold of her for the story lines we've kind
Speaker 2: of painted. For getting kidnapped and marked by some sort
Speaker 2: of network of situations, right, and maybe even a ritual
Speaker 2: human sacrifice in different times with a baby, even in
Speaker 2: fact that Seene would play in this as well.
Speaker 3: Perhaps.
Speaker 2: So there was two other women and one was named
Speaker 2: lords Avelia. She was reported she's a modesto lady, reported
Speaker 2: to have she was eight eight eight or eight months
Speaker 2: eight and a half months pregnant. She reported to have
Speaker 2: been stalked by two men in a van right around
Speaker 2: that same time.
Speaker 5: So go ahead, no, go ahead. So you think it
Speaker 5: could have been like a serial killer.
Speaker 3: Team, Well, if you're a death cult shopping for babies
Speaker 3: and whatnot, and folksheads a lop off, I mean, there
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 5: Is that your final conclusion on it?
Speaker 2: Well, folks can check out that lady's tale. I did
Speaker 2: see this one thing on this year's ago on this case.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any the new stuff, but that lady's
Speaker 2: tale was depicted here in a previous TV murder of
Speaker 2: Lacy Peterson, so twenty seventeen. So you have that one, right,
Speaker 2: and then you have the case also of Evelyn Hernandez.
Speaker 2: So her body comes up ashore not far from her
Speaker 2: Lacey's and Connor is dead, and I think about.
Speaker 5: Four months later, four months later.
Speaker 2: A pregnant woman had vanished days before giving birth inside
Speaker 2: case of Evelyn Hernandez, the other Lacey Peterson.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I did not know about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well apparently there's a new docu series here, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Murder has Two Faces, began May sixth of this year
Speaker 2: on Hulu. The similarities between the killings of Hernandez and Peterson.
Speaker 2: I don't think they ever found her son. I think
Speaker 2: I do think they recovered her body though, But look,
Speaker 2: that's part of the system, I think, because again one
Speaker 2: of the Cameron points out, I think, even if Ed's
Speaker 2: not the only guy doing it, part of this network
Speaker 2: of this death cult, like AD's friend Otis Tool would describe, right,
Speaker 2: They knew each other. That is, you got You gotta
Speaker 2: bring closure to the event. That way, there's no in
Speaker 2: searching for shit. So you give them the patsy, you
Speaker 2: give them the body, you give them a convenience storyline,
Speaker 2: you give them a great person to hate.
Speaker 3: It is an easy thing for folks to just accept.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm reading a little bit about this Hernandez. This
Speaker 5: is crazy. Yeah. Look on July twenty four, two thousand
Speaker 5: and two, hernandez body was found in San Francisco Bay,
Speaker 5: missing its.
Speaker 4: Head in several.
Speaker 2: Just like John Cameron says, this is also ed and
Speaker 2: again I would agree it's the network and AD's in
Speaker 2: charge of it, but they may not.
Speaker 3: Just be dded directly.
Speaker 4: It's Lackey's.
Speaker 2: So we've established a pattern behavior across decades, both of
Speaker 2: geography and time. Here tonight with appreciate the conversation with all,
Speaker 2: always enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Real barn Burner.
Speaker 2: I didn't decleart at first, but I didn't have any
Speaker 2: doubt's real barn Burner. But you know, what else are
Speaker 2: we describe me? If it's not a network of what that?
Speaker 2: What tool will describe as a hand of death, which
Speaker 2: I claim his pal at Edwards was in charge of.
Speaker 5: As my closing statements, I think this could either be
Speaker 5: all theater or if Scott, If Scott didn't do it,
Speaker 5: he knew from jump.
Speaker 1: That suspending disbelief of this show thing, you really still
Speaker 1: think he may.
Speaker 3: Have done it.
Speaker 5: He was involved in some way.
Speaker 1: He had to have been, not in some way as
Speaker 1: though he was actually involved in her murder, or he
Speaker 1: knew it was going down.
Speaker 5: He knew it was going down, he knew the details.
Speaker 5: You know what happened.
Speaker 3: No, there's evidence of that. I No, it's great point.
Speaker 3: That's a great point.
Speaker 2: There's evidence that again across the spectrum of space and
Speaker 2: time here j Sebring knew he was about to get
Speaker 2: murdered before he got murdered. So and in fact, somebody
Speaker 2: cut the phone lines of his the electrical lines at
Speaker 2: his house that they thought they cut the power of
Speaker 2: his house in the phone lines the night before, like
Speaker 2: they did it to take Polansky house the next night
Speaker 2: when he got murdered.
Speaker 3: But they cut the cable lines. He had cable TV
Speaker 3: at a time when no one else did.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that was a thing in the
Speaker 4: late sixties.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're on top of this network dealing
Speaker 2: with the drugs through his hair salon, his international hair
Speaker 2: salon j Sbri International, which upon his death was in
Speaker 2: fact taken over by the processed church's own member and attorney,
Speaker 2: John Markham the second, his cousin is still today the
Speaker 2: in charge and owns Sebrie International hair hair salon stuff,
Speaker 2: the hair slon of the stars and their products and
Speaker 2: their long standing drug distribution. It seems so that's the
Speaker 2: wholy un Markham family processed situation now. But yeah, he
Speaker 2: Seabring knew was getting the heat was on and he
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 3: What something was up?
Speaker 5: Well, I think if let's let me not say if
Speaker 5: let's just say Scott wasn't the one who actually did it, But.
Speaker 4: You're still thinking that's a possibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, he could have helped. He could have said, hey,
Speaker 5: I think she's gonna walk the dog today.
Speaker 1: I kind of like, I kind of like JJ's take
Speaker 1: that she was maybe in the network as well as him,
Speaker 1: And I think that never has entered my mind.
Speaker 4: But as soon as you said it, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly what you when you started saying gonrel,
Speaker 2: that's immediately came to my brain.
Speaker 4: As some of my closing arguments I just there are
Speaker 4: both pieces.
Speaker 3: Of the ship, right, both her and and her and
Speaker 3: Affleck a piece of ship in that film.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just looked up on the interwebs here.
Speaker 1: The author of that book that was adapted into the
Speaker 1: Fincher film flat out said this is based on the
Speaker 1: Scott Peterson thing.
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom. I like your rat, sir. That's good,
Speaker 3: that's good ship. I didn't consider that. I like it though,
Speaker 3: so I that's how much I liked it.
Speaker 1: Well, I just I always look at these like I
Speaker 1: do think Jack Nicholson did create Ted Bundy it at the.
Speaker 2: Point, yeah, man, and I do what Cult Necessary film
Speaker 2: reviews every Wednesday, sir, and it did't even cross my
Speaker 2: brain hole.
Speaker 3: So I like your style.
Speaker 4: Well i'll show.
Speaker 1: I'll send you this clip that Julia pulled up where
Speaker 1: he's being interviewed in Colorado. I think that's Jack Nicholson
Speaker 1: representing the Ted Bundying character. There was lots of people
Speaker 1: who did, and I think Nicholson was one of them.
Speaker 1: And dude, I'm not convinced that Ben Affleck wasn't in
Speaker 1: fucking prosthetics to play Scott Peterson, even.
Speaker 2: Though I'm gonna need to see that link, sir. I'm
Speaker 2: also gonna need to join you all for another conversation
Speaker 2: on these topics. Is really I enjoyed the conversation. I
Speaker 2: appreciate your all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, thanks it out for doing this. This was,
Speaker 1: you know, better than I expected it to be. I
Speaker 1: expected it to be pread but barn Burner, like you.
Speaker 2: Say, guaranteed, sir, No bombs here, no bombs here? All right, Well,
Speaker 2: any closing states prob we call her in here.
Speaker 4: I think that I've said my piece.
Speaker 2: Conspiracy, playtime, cosmic, peach, anything, anything fantastic coming up besides
Speaker 2: your current fantastic stuff on you to check out about
Speaker 2: your mental health series.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a it's a three part series and the
Speaker 5: last episode is going to be coming out soon. But
Speaker 5: just so you know, I learned one thing from the
Speaker 5: the Scott Peterson case, and the number one cause of
Speaker 5: death for pregnant women is murder. So if something happens
Speaker 5: to me Kolby, did it yike?
Speaker 1: Not for having I do make soa with sodium hydroxide.
Speaker 1: Not it's not androgyen this it has a gender. Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Now that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Again, we'll have to convene on these matters in the
Speaker 2: future in Operation GCD live every Sunday's, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Friday,
Speaker 2: sometimes on Saturdays because I get sick on Thursdays like tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that next. But I i'd look forward
Speaker 2: to our next conversations. And and if baby Hank arrives
Speaker 2: in the future, uh, congratulations, And before I talk to
Speaker 2: your next congratulations. And I'm giving you pre congratulations.
Speaker 4: And uh there's a very good chance that the next
Speaker 4: time you talk to us.
Speaker 3: I assumed as much. Yeah, I assumed as much.
Speaker 2: So and I know I've been through those endeavors of
Speaker 2: having a newborns a good luck best of luck in
Speaker 2: that it's gonna be a lot of sleepless nights, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: So in the future when you're all or back to
Speaker 2: having you know, some time to podcast here. But I
Speaker 2: look forward to our future conversations whenever that does occur.
Speaker 2: Post Thank you congratulations. That's that's awesome stuff. Thank you, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: All right, well is that it. We'll catch you next time?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: Under the blue moon.
Speaker 7: I saw you so serom you'll take me.
Speaker 3: Up in your arms to lead to beg you or
Speaker 3: cancel it, though I know it must be killing.
Speaker 1: Time, unwillingly mind.
Speaker 5: Face up against.
Speaker 3: To wake you
Speaker 4: Through the fig