WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.160 You're listening to KFI AM six forty wake Up Call 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.439 with Me Amy King on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:28.120 KFI and KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange County KAFI Radio. 4 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:30.960 This is Mission Control Houston. Please call station for a 5 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:37.079 voice check station. 6 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:39.359 This is Amy King with kfi's wake Up Call. 7 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:40.159 How do you hear me? 8 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:44.880 I can hear you loud and clear. 9 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:48.840 It's time for your morning wake. 10 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:53.039 Up call'd landed and his name is Amy King. 11 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:57.119 Here's Amy King. 12 00:00:59.240 --> 00:00:59.880 This is not. 13 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:03.640 God. 14 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:09.680 It is five o'clock, straight up, good morning. It's Friday, 15 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.079 February twenty eighth, the last day of February. I'm Amy King. 16 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.680 We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and so happy 17 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:20.280 that you're here to start your day and get a 18 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:23.680 kickstart to the weekend. Got so much going on, Let's 19 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.879 get right to it. Here's what's ahead on wake Up Call. Fired. 20 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.719 LA fired Chief Kristin Crowley has notified the city that 21 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.239 she is going to appeal her termination to the La 22 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.920 City Council. La Mayor Bass fired her last week because 23 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.239 of the way that she handled the wildfires in Pasadena, 24 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:43.200 Altadena and Pacific Palisades. Crowley would need the support of 25 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.120 ten of the fifteen city council members to be reinstated. 26 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.560 Ukrainian President Zelenski will meet with President Trump at the 27 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.840 White House today, is expected to sign a deal to 28 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.120 pay back money given to Ukraine to fight it's war 29 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:59.120 with Russia with proceeds from Rare Earth minerals. Reality TV 30 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:03.040 star Court Kardashian has joined her neighbors in Calabasas to 31 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:06.040 protest the dumping of debris from the Palisades Fire in 32 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:09.680 the Calabasas landfill. Kardashian held a sign yesterday that said, 33 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:15.159 fill our hydrants, not our dumps. Circumstances surrounding Gene Hackman's 34 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.240 death are unusual and getting more and more strange. ABC's 35 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.199 Jim Ryan's going to join us to tell us the 36 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:26.120 latest on that. That's coming up in about three minutes. Also, 37 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.960 we're going back to the Moon. Well, NASA is We've 38 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:32.719 got two lunar landings happening in the next week. We're 39 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.520 gonna be talking with Nikki Fox at NASA headquarters to 40 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.560 find out when we'll get there, what we're dropping off, 41 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.319 and why we're doing it. That's coming up at five twenty. 42 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.000 You don't want to miss it. I love all Things Space. 43 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.199 The countdown to the Oscars is on. We're going to 44 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:53.439 dig into Hollywood's biggest night with insights from ABC's Mike Nabuski. 45 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.520 That's coming up before the top of the hour. Here's 46 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:57.840 a fun Oscar fact. Do you know how much the 47 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.280 Oscar Ceremony costs to put it on on? In total? 48 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:08.159 Fifty seven point seven million dollars. Starts at four o'clock 49 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.479 on Sunday. Let's get started with some of the stories 50 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.879 coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. A 51 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.639 new analysis shows the damage caused by the wildfires last 52 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.560 month in southern California is in the tens of billions 53 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.000 of dollars. 54 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.000 Upwards of nearly fifty four billion dollars in property damage 55 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.479 was suffered by the fires and the palisades in Altadena. 56 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.479 Former Governor Gray Davis, co chair of the Southern California 57 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:31.879 Leadership Council, says rebuilding should be fast tracked. 58 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.599 Whether that's a rebuilt home or some of the home 59 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.759 outside of the fire errors. But most people, we believe 60 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.400 will want to gravitate back to the neighborhoods in which 61 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:41.479 they previously lift. 62 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.800 The report by the Leadership Council and the La County 63 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.039 Economic Development Corporation says tens of thousands of jobs have 64 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.599 likely been lost or will be. Michael Monks KFI. 65 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:55.039 News, California's insurance commissioner says he hopes to make a 66 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.199 decision in the next two weeks about State Farms request 67 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:02.240 to hike insurance policy prices by fifteen to thirty eight percent. 68 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.759 Consumer watchdogs William Fletcher says the hikes would increase homeowners' 69 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:09.560 policy prices by an average of six hundred dollars. 70 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.599 This is just a potential huge impact. 71 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.759 We're concerned that we're not seeing the information, the financial 72 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:15.360 information that. 73 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.319 We need to see to fully evaluate the request. 74 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.519 State Farm is the largest insurer in California, covering about 75 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.879 twenty percent of homes. State regulators have given two other 76 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.000 insurance companies permission to raise their rates for thousands of 77 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:32.959 customers beginning in late March. Homeowners, condo owners, and rental 78 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.879 building policyholders. With Mercury General, we'll see their rates go 79 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.399 up by twelve percent. On average, customers who have home 80 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.279 insurance with Safeco, which is part of Liberty Mutual, we'll 81 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.600 see rates go up by an average of seven point 82 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.000 two percent. In May. A jury in la is due 83 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.040 back for deliberations in the trial of an Orange County 84 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.079 judge charged with killing his wife. Jurors could convict Jeffrey 85 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:59.120 Ferguson of second degree murder or involuntary manslaughter, or acquit 86 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.480 him testified the fatal shooting in twenty twenty three was 87 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.160 an accident. Pasadena School District board members have voted six 88 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.600 to one in favor of removing over one hundred and 89 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.480 fifty teacher and staff positions. The proposed layoffs are one 90 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:16.160 part of a proposed district budget cut. The president of 91 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.839 the United Teachers of Pasadena says about a dozen staff 92 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.800 and the proposed layoff lost their homes in the Eton fire. 93 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.199 The district says the budget decisions were made before the 94 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.120 fires started. Right now, let's say good morning to ABC's 95 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:33.040 Jim Ryan. So, Jim, we're learning more about Gene Hackman's 96 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.160 death and it's all getting very strange. 97 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.920 It is getting strange, yes, mainly because we don't have 98 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:40.839 any answers as to how this happened. No obvious sign 99 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.439 of trauma on the body of either Jeene Hackman or 100 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.279 his wife, Betsy Arakawa. The door had been left a 101 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.560 jar apparently to the house. That doesn't jot with what 102 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:53.120 the security guard or the maintenance man who made the 103 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.199 nine to one one call said. He said that there 104 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.079 was no way to get into the house. Now, you know, 105 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.639 he was upset. Clearly he was in a panic a bit, 106 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.439 so he might have missed that there was a door 107 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.920 that was open, but the door opened. Thing also kind 108 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.519 of might discount the theory that they died of carbon 109 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.839 monoxide poisoning, because it would have been out of the house, right, 110 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.639 But the door might have blown open or pushed open 111 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.480 after they had died. Who knows. But we're still waiting 112 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.240 and it could be weeks amy before we have firm answers. 113 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.120 And then there's also the issue of the dog. So 114 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.720 there were two dogs that were alive and then one 115 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:30.279 was found dead. 116 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.879 Right and the dog they were all German shepherds. There 117 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.959 Hackman apparently been a fan of shepherds, German shepherds for 118 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.959 a long time. The dog that died was in a 119 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:44.360 kennel in a crate in the in the closet now 120 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.040 and the other two were roaming around were in fairly 121 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.800 good shape, but they were hungry, and this apparently it 122 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.639 happened some time ago, a couple of weeks ago. Those 123 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.800 same two maintenance men had not been in touch with 124 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:58.920 the couple for a couple of for a few weeks, 125 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:02.720 two weeks at least, but that wasn't unusual. They didn't 126 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:05.600 see them very often. They would just contact Betsy Arkawa 127 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.399 by text message to set up maintenance, So that wasn't 128 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.040 too unusual that they wouldn't have been seen in some time, 129 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.519 and they weren't fairly reclusive. Out there a lot of 130 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:15.720 mysteries left to be solved. 131 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.519 Hearing me, yeah, and when you mentioned a couple of weeks, 132 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:23.279 they're also saying that the bodies had they were decomposing 133 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.360 a bit and had become mummified. 134 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.079 Well, that's what happens when somebody dies, you know, they 135 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.600 and the bodies left there. The hands and the feet 136 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:36.680 start to mummify first, or they the rigamotis then becomes mummification, 137 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:39.639 and that's what had happened with Betsy Arkawa's hands and feet. 138 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.000 I don't know if that was the case with Hackman. 139 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:45.199 The affidavit did not mention that very you know, it. 140 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.560 Could be very strange, or it could be just that 141 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.360 they that he died, and then you know, it could 142 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:57.680 be very not strange, I mean, but it does seem 143 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.240 very weird that they were in different rooms and it 144 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.199 appears that he fell, right. 145 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.040 Yeah, that he fell, you know it was that what 146 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.839 killed him? Or is that or did fall because he died? 147 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.040 We don't know. I think the key will be the 148 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.920 dog if they can, if they determine that the dog 149 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:15.800 died of carbon and ring, and I suspect they'll do 150 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.680 a post mortem on the dog as well. If the 151 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.399 dog died of carbon monoxide poisoning, that means they probably 152 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.600 all did. If the dog starved to death, then that 153 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.680 still leaves open the question of how Hackman and Arakawa died. 154 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.560 Okay, so many answers, and then they're going to be 155 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:30.519 doing autopsies. 156 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.840 But autopsies are done, but the toxicology will take several weeks. 157 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.639 Okay, so we're not going to have answers for a while. Okay. 158 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:38.879 On a more happy note, do you have a favorite 159 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.000 Gene Hackman movie? 160 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.399 Young Frankenstein's one of my favorite movies of all time anyway, 161 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:44.799 and he happens to be in it. 162 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.360 Love it? Okay. Here's a couple that we were kind 163 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.399 of rattling off some of the movies that he was 164 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.799 in yesterday, but then there's just so much more. He 165 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.960 was in Bird Cage, you remember that. Yeah, such a 166 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.039 fun show. And one of my favorite roles that he 167 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:00.159 did was get Shorty. 168 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:02.120 That was that movie. 169 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.519 It was I used to watch that movie all the time. 170 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:09.440 And then of course serious stuff Mississippi Burnie Spectacular. Got 171 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:11.279 an Academy Award nomination for that. 172 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.279 And the French Connection. 173 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.840 Of course, French Connection, of course. Editor Carlo said, Enemy 174 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:17.240 of the State's one of her favorites. 175 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.519 Yeah, Bene in some movies this weekend for sure. 176 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.440 Absolutely a good way to remember a fantastic actor. 177 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:24.240 Yeah. 178 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.720 Oh and I have one other thing. It was Low's 179 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.000 not Home Depot he was. He did voiceovers and it 180 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.240 wasn't Home Depot. It was Low's that he did for years. 181 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:33.759 Gotch's plan to. 182 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.600 Correct the record there. Thank you so much, Jim, have 183 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:38.600 a great weekend. Thanks for the information. All right, let's 184 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.240 get back to some of the stories coming out of 185 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.440 the KFI twenty four our newsroom. British Prime Minister Kiir 186 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:48.240 Starmer has urged President Trump not to abandon Ukraine as 187 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.679 he looks to end the war with Russia. Thank you 188 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.559 for changing the conversation to bring about the possibility that 189 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:56.840 now we can have a peace deal, and we want 190 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:58.679 to work with you to make sure that peace deal 191 00:09:59.320 --> 00:09:59.840 is enduring. 192 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:00.879 The Lost. 193 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.879 Starmer arrived at the White House yesterday to meet with Trump, 194 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.679 who says the presence of American workers in Ukraine will 195 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.519 act as a deterrence against Russia when you. 196 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:12.919 Talk about economic development. 197 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:14.639 We're going to have a lot of people over there, 198 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:16.879 so we'll be working in the country. 199 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.799 The British Premier started his visit by delivering an invitation 200 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.440 to Trump from King Charles the Third to go to 201 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:31.000 Scotland for what Starmer called an historic state visit. Canadian 202 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.600 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says if the United States imposes tariffs, 203 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.960 billions of dollars worth of US products will also be 204 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:42.879 subject to taxes. Twenty five percent tariffs on Canada and 205 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:47.919 Mexico are set to begin Tuesday. Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum 206 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.759 says she hopes that she and Trump can reach an agreement. 207 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.279 China has threatened to retaliate for ten percent tariffs being 208 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.759 imposed by President Trump. They're also scheduled to begin next 209 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.360 week China's mini Ministry of Commerce says it firmly opposes 210 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:05.879 Trump's threat and vowed that China will take all necessary 211 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:10.519 countermeasures to defend its legitimate rights and interests. A spokesman 212 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.320 says we urge the US not to repeat its own 213 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.440 mistakes and to return as soon as possible to the 214 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.919 right track of properly resolving conflicts through dialogue on equal footing. 215 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.480 A federal judge in San Francisco has ruled the mass 216 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.919 firings of probationary employees by the Trump administration were likely unlawful. 217 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.639 The decision grants temporary relief to a coalition of labor 218 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.600 unions and organizations that sued to stop Trump from dismantling 219 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:40.120 the federal workforce. Lawyers for the Office of Personnel Management 220 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:43.919 say individual agencies made the decision to fire employees and 221 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:47.840 that it had no role in ordering the firings. Before 222 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.399 we find out which movies are the best of the 223 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.679 best at the Oscars, the Razzies will be awarded the. 224 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.879 Golden Raspberry Awards, highlight the worst films and performances of 225 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.600 the year, and leading the putrid pack this time is 226 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.360 joke Fully Ado, with seven nominations its stars Lady Gaga 227 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.320 and Joaquin Phoenix were nominated. Phoenix won the Oscar for 228 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:09.039 playing the same role in the original film. Other films 229 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.679 up for the honor include Borderlands, Madame Webb, Megalopolis, and Reagan, 230 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.679 with six nominations each. The winners, so to speak, will 231 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.399 be unveiled Saturday. Mark RONNERD KFI News. 232 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:21.720 Okay, don't hate me, but I actually kind of liked 233 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:27.759 Joker Faliad. It was weird, but I I knew what 234 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:29.759 it was going in, Like, I didn't go to the theaters, 235 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:31.919 and I wasn't surprised because it was a musical because 236 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:36.759 I kind of knew already. So will you haven't seen it? 237 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:38.120 I did not know that. 238 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.799 Oh okay, well when you see it, you'll be prepared. Okay, 239 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:42.399 I still, I mean, I kind of hated it, but 240 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.279 I kind of really was sitting there going, oh, I 241 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:48.159 really do like this. State Farm has asked California's insurance 242 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.519 Commissioner to hike insurance rates in California by an average 243 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.639 of twenty two percent. It says paying out claims for 244 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.399 the LA wildfires it's hurting its business and needs the 245 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.639 influx of cash to cover costs. The insurance comissioner says 246 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.559 he hopes to make a decision on State Farm's proposed 247 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:06.200 rate hike in two weeks. A man's been arrested for 248 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.360 allegedly attacking firefighters in Buena Park. The Orange County Fire 249 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.200 Authority says as the firefighters got back to their station 250 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.799 last night, a shirtless man on a bike stopped in 251 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.440 front of a fire engine, pulled the door open, jumped inside, 252 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.159 and started attacking the crew inside. He then locked himself 253 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.679 inside the engine. Three firefighters were taken to the hospital 254 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.399 with minor injuries. A woman who lost everything in the 255 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:32.240 wildfire and Altadena is not happy with the CHP. Lisa 256 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:37.039 Braunstein Gaffney says her charred car was moved to clear 257 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:40.519 the road for emergency crews and utility workers after the fire. 258 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.480 Well then CHP center a bill for towing the vehicle. 259 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.480 She says she got charged almost six hundred dollars at 260 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.320 six O five's handle on the news. Files on Jeffrey 261 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:52.919 Epstein have been declassified and released, and at first glance, 262 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.240 they're kind of a big nothing burger. Let's say good 263 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:00.919 morning now to Associate Administrator for the NASAs Science Mission 264 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:04.480 Directorate at NASA Headquarters, Niki Fox, Good morning. 265 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.039 Niki, Good morning. 266 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.240 So Nikki, it's not only door Dash and grub hub 267 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:13.120 that does deliveries. NASA does deliveries too, except they just did. 268 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.480 Yeah, that's right, that's right actually, to be to be fair, 269 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:21.120 it's our it's our industry partners that are doing the deliveries. 270 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.600 We are we are being delivered by them. So we're 271 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:25.279 very excited. 272 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.720 Okay, So tell us you're saying, so you've got somebody 273 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.720 else is actually uh flying there, but it's got NASA 274 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.799 gear on the on the payload. 275 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:41.639 Basically absolutely, Yeah. Through our Commercial Payload Delivery service basically 276 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:46.320 or clips commercial Lunar Payloads, we we actually are working 277 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.600 very closely with our industry partners enabling them to build 278 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.399 the actual landers. They are you know, they're responsible for 279 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.360 getting the launch and everything arranged, and we provide the 280 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.720 payloads and also kind of you know, the delivery location 281 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.399 that we want to go to, and then they are 282 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.399 taking us there and taking us right now with the 283 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.679 two that are going there to very different locations on 284 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.039 the moon. So it's a very exciting time. Okay. 285 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:16.799 So Nikki, tell us, first of all, tell us, we've 286 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.600 got two deliveries going and one of them gets there 287 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.200 tomorrow right or no, Sunday, Sunday. 288 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.159 Yep, that's correct. One of them gets there on Sunday, 289 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.759 and that is Firefly, our blue ghost one lander, so 290 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.639 really excited that is that is heading there on track 291 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.799 to do their landing attempt on Sunday morning. And that 292 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.960 is that is actually going to an interesting region. That is, 293 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:45.559 it's the site of an asteroid impact and so when 294 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.840 the you know, an ancient asteroid impact kind of flooded 295 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.919 that area with lava and so it's a very different 296 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.240 kind of of of solar sorry you can tell I'm 297 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:59.399 a herely physicist, a different kind of lunar sort of 298 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:03.080 surface there. And then the other one, the intuitive machines, 299 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.279 is going about five degrees off the south pole of 300 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.919 the Moon, so very different area, and it's landing on 301 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.600 a sort of our high high ridge there. It's about 302 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.440 the size of Delaware, about the height of Mount McKinley, 303 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:20.240 and so a very different area. And that one is 304 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.039 going to be looking for water and other volatiles on 305 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:23.399 the moon. 306 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.080 Okay. And so though it sounds like they're going to 307 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:28.799 have two very different missions because the one that's going 308 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:30.559 to be near the south pole is looking for water. 309 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:35.240 And what's the one the Firefly Blue Ghost mission one? 310 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:36.799 What is the goal of that? 311 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.279 Uh, there's several goals, but you know, largely speaking, it's 312 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.639 really characterizing what the reguless or what what the lunar 313 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.919 surface does during you know, when when you actually land 314 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.399 on it, like does it does it kick up? How 315 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.080 is the dust kicked up? What does that look like 316 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:57.279 as you're landing. It's also got instruments that look are 317 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:01.080 kind of how sticky the regulation is or the you know, 318 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.119 the lunar surface, the lunar dust is. We know from 319 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.720 the Apollo missions that you know it's stuck to the spacesuits, 320 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.079 et cetera. And you know, we're just going to figure 321 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.599 out like how sticky, how tacky it is. And then 322 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.240 it also has some technology that's looking at whether or 323 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.359 not you can actually clean the dust off the surface. 324 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.480 You know, if you think about sending great scientific equipment, 325 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.960 great life support systems, and then as you keep doing 326 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:31.720 landings and you keep kicking up the dust, you want 327 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:35.039 to be able to clean off those surfaces to keep 328 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.599 everything pristine, and so sort of doing that that kind 329 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.839 of early testing of that so as we you know, 330 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.519 land more and more on the Moon, we can actually 331 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:50.880 protect the environment around the landers. Also great science experiments 332 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.640 on there looking at looking at the sun in X 333 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:59.400 rays and doing some very sort of precise location like 334 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.400 the sort of navigation precision locations with with that lander 335 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:03.839 as well. 336 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:06.359 Okay, So, Nikki, you've got me really interested in the 337 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.400 dust because you think about it kicking up and I 338 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.400 remember like when when our troops first went over to 339 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.319 Operation Desert Storm and they were dealing with the sand. 340 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.920 They were literally using nylons to cover some of the 341 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.759 weapons to keep the sand out. So I'm wondering it's 342 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.640 it's sort of like you're finding out what it does, 343 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.480 so when there are future missions, you know how to 344 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:30.200 deal with it. Is that accurate? 345 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:34.160 Yeah, that's actually a really great way of putting it. 346 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.119 You know, you want to understand what the what the 347 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.279 material or you know, the dust is made of, like 348 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.319 you know, is it how and really it is, how 349 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:48.039 sticky is it? How much will it stick to surfaces? 350 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.519 And then you want to know how to protect those 351 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.319 surfaces so that that's exactly right. 352 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.839 Okay, And so then Nikki, let's look look to the future. 353 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.079 We're doing this because what is what's the goal? Is 354 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.160 it to put a station on the Moon. Is it 355 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.480 to make us stop over, to like have people on 356 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.960 the Moon all the time, or just to keep experimenting 357 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:09.279 up there? 358 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.920 Oh, a little bit of everything. I mean set the 359 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.400 the ultimate goal is to set up a sort of 360 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:20.160 a sustainable lunar economy for our US companies, so that 361 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:25.079 you know, they they they have a sustainable your delivery services, 362 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:28.799 as you know, is one thing, but also instruments on 363 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:32.200 the moon, payloads going to the Moon, large cargo delivery, 364 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:35.359 you know, on the intuitive machines. We have a hopper 365 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.079 which is a little bit like a helicopter that you know, 366 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.599 can actually sort of do mapping out of the terrain 367 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.480 for us, so, you know, really interesting things. But to 368 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:49.119 be able to set up that sustained presence on the Moon, 369 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.920 and then to to to be able to look after 370 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.200 our astronauts, and of course not only just on the 371 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.519 surface of the Moon, but as we then turn our 372 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.440 attention to sort of further out in the Solar System, 373 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:05.359 we think of the Moon kind of lighting our way 374 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.480 to Mars. As we you know, we are ready to 375 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.720 support crude missions eventually to Mars. You know, looking at 376 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.960 the technology, looking at the various things that you want 377 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.680 to get ready to be able to support those long term, 378 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.559 long duration trips to Mars, and then of course exploration 379 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:25.680 on the surface of Mars, which I personally could not 380 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.039 be any more excited about. 381 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.680 And do we have any kind of a timeline on 382 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:34.039 when that might come to fruition? 383 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.079 I mean, I think you know, we're certainly ready to 384 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:43.599 support any opportunities that we have to go, either to 385 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:47.039 the Moon or to auto Mars. I think you'd have 386 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:50.200 to talk to the various providers about their timelines for 387 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:53.720 actually getting the equipment there, But NATA Science is ready 388 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:53.920 to go. 389 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:58.759 Okay, and Nikki, one last question for you. The first 390 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.160 landing is supposed to have and on Sunday, and the 391 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:05.319 next one I believe is on March sixth andres. Where 392 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:06.400 can people watch this? 393 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.279 Oh yes, you can, thank you so much for asking. 394 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.599 You can watch it on NASA Plus is our streaming service, 395 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.559 and we will be streaming all of the information live. 396 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.279 So actually that's the landing, but also lots of information 397 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.759 about the two missions, and of course if you want 398 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:26.599 to know more about it ahead, if you can't wait 399 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.839 till Sunday for the landing. You can go to NASA 400 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.279 dot gov, where you'll find information about all things NATA, 401 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:37.559