Speaker 1: It was a wild night in the NHL on Thursday night,
and we're here to break it down as well as
one game in the NHL for Friday. We'll get you
guys set of course for Saturday slate with Carmines six
and sixty. I'll have some player props for you and
all kinds of good stuff here on puck time. I
welcome in guys Wager Talk TV Andrew McGinnis, Carm and Bianca.
Look forward to a fantastic show. And you know, there
was once a time where if there was only one game,
we wouldn't even be here doing a show. But it
was a wild, wild night last night of games, and Karm,
there's gonna be one specific game that you're extremely excited about.
Speaker 2: So good morning to you.
Speaker 1: And hey, your Buffalo Savers are playing as well as
they are and you show up in a different jersey
here this morning.
Speaker 2: What's going on, Carl? It's it.
Speaker 3: I have to man, I have to show respect to
the Red Wings. It's a little I got my hoodie.
So this is just on for the opening. But eighty
eight Andrew eighty eight, Patrick Kin passes Mike Medano as
the number one US born player as far as points go.
We got an assist in that second period. He had
assist in the first period early goal, but it was
offside on that one. But thirteen seventy five for Patrick
Kin and Buffalo Born, so there's the connection. Andrew, a
Buffalo Born player holds the record top us scoring. So
passes of course Medano, who had a fantastic message if
you remember Medano from his days with the Minnesota North
Stars and Dallas Stars. So with that said, man I
got lucky. I will say it. It was a five
percent play on the total. It looked absolutely dead in
the water, Andrew, we're talking. I think in the third
I'm like, this play is dead. I can't believe it.
The chances and stuff. But as good as Patrick Kane was,
as good as Washington was, and as good as the
Detroit Red Wings were, Andrew, do you know who the
VIP of the game was? Does anyone know who the
MVP of the game was? Let me tell you who
it is. It's this man right here. It's this man
right here. If you're wondering who that guy is. The
game tying goal with under a minute left went off
of that little hole there. Sometimes holes are good. That
little hole there, yeah, I said it and into the
net by the goalie. Unbelievable. And then they review it
and I'm like, oh my god, please don't take this
goal away from them, because I think if it had
hit it'd be hard to determine. But if I think
if the camera was through the little hole there and
it hit the camera, they could have called it an
interference or whatever it is, and it would have been
no goal. But they couldn't determine it. They say that
it actually hit the actual window, a little stanchion there
or whatever it's called, Andrew, and and they allowed the goal.
What a way to win a play. I have to say, man,
absolutely crazy Andrew. To win a play like that, I
will take him anyway I can get him. We should
because we've been on the we. When I say we,
I'm talking about even you guys in the chatter, guys
watching later on. We've been on the wrong end of
bad beats. It is good to have one go your way.
Speaker 2: So it's pretty awesome, you know. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was checking the score, I was cheering for you,
and then I was like, it's not looking too good,
and then out of nowhere, I just see a text
come in from you, and I was like, there's no way,
there's no way this just happened. I couldn't believe it.
I love that picture you pulled up, though. The guy
looks so stunned, like the camera guy.
Speaker 3: He looks so stun because they kept showing him. They
kept showing him over and over, and then the people
were tweeting out the picture as well too, so I
thought it was It was a pretty funny, man.
Speaker 1: I had a good one too last night, Carl. I'll
tell you it wasn't a five percenter, but I took
this the hard way.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: I had the Edmonton Oilers team total over three and
a half goals and they were down three nothing against
the San Jose Sharks. They won that game four to
three in overtime, four to three in overtime. Like, you know,
just looking at that team, what they were able to
do in that third period, I was extremely, extremely excited.
And you know, the fact to have an over three
and a half goals, you don't necessarily need them to win,
but you need to get to four goals, and they
needed four goals to win it in overtime. And the
funny thing is yesterday on the show the same game parlay.
If you remember, we had McDavid two points, we had
Bouchard assist, we had dry citle goal and Zach Himan
three shots on goal and we fall short because of
Zach Hyman one least shot.
Speaker 2: But if you guys took all of.
Speaker 1: Those individual plays and they were all pretty good odds
you were able to make some money with that. So
not as good as your last second win. But man,
I was pretty excited about that one, Like you're you're
you got the team total and you're down three nothing
and you get three straight goals in the third period.
That was exciting. But let's let's continue taking a look
back here, Karen. We don't always like to do this,
but I think sometimes it's fun to do and I
want to throw this out there and I'm going to
keep on piling on with this. This is the first
time I'm in a long time, karm that we're really
seeing the East dominate the West.
Speaker 2: Maybe you just can't ignore it.
Speaker 1: Last night we had four to one victory, Lightning over
the Jets, five to four victory, Hurricanes over the Mammoth.
My Canadians get revenge over the Avalanche seven to three
win for them. How about the Devils three two win
over the Nashville Predators. How about your Buffalo Sabers that
just can't stop winning. They win for to one over
the Kings. You know, the list goes on and on
and on. Here, karm, but these East teams are far
superior right now than the Western Conference. And I'll say this,
you Cash the play of the day with the Dallas Stars,
and I just want to go even more in depth
on the fact that this team, the Vegas Golden Knights,
if it wasn't for these overtime loss points, they're the
worst team in overtimer shootout I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: If you look at at.
Speaker 1: The Utah Mammoth Carve they have twenty eight wins. They're
in the first wild card spot. The Anaheim Ducks are
in the second wild card spot. They have twenty eight wins.
San Jose Sharks have twenty seven wins. You know how
many wins. The Vegas Golden Knights have their first place
in the division, They've got twenty five wins. There's teams
that aren't even in the playoffs right now that have
more wins than they do. What's your take on.
Speaker 3: That, No, it's nuts, Andrew. And this is the thing
is like you know, I mean, there's some movers and
there's just some teams moving in the West. It's just
making for some interesting hockey. It's kind of like what
I said about this final week before the you know,
before the Olympic break. Next weekend, I think is the
last set of games. I think on Saturday. But I
know the press joked around about the coasting mode, but
it's hard to argue like some of these teams and
I'm not calling it coasting, they're not coasting, but the
intensity level isn't there. If you want to, maybe coasting
means the intensity level isn't there. The you know, the
Colorado Avalanche losing a game like they like they did
to Ottawa. Maybe Ottawa's turning around. Ottawa's had two monster
wins against the Vegas Golden Knights in Colorado. Or are
they just wins in which they caught teams in bad spots.
Who knows, But the fact remains they've scored I think
thirteen goals across those games. There are some teams that
are winning, you know. Look the Columbus Blue Jackets with
that coaching bounce and they're playing tonight. We're going to
discuss that game shortly, and then we're also going to
discuss a couple of games on the Saturday card Montreal
and Buffalo and Toronto and Vancouver. But Andrew is just
it was one of those ones where I talked about
like sort of the Freaky Friday moving to Thursday because
all the games were on Thursday. Of all teams to
shut out the Anaheim Ducks, it was the Vancouver Canuck
that have been a siff of late. When I first
saw that score, I'm like, it's two. Nothing was the
final there, And I'll be honest with you, I called
it a night after I won my first couple of
plays and Dallas was up four to one against Vegas.
I'm like, all right, if I lose this one, it's
going to be a bad beat. And then I see
that they want it in ot or shootout, and I'm like,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: They came back. It's that first game back to the
Vegas Golden Knights or any team first came back off
a coast to coast trip. They're normally a little bit flat.
You looked at them to play much better the second
time out, and we'll discuss that during the six and
sixty segment. But man, Andrew, it is nuts. Your Canadians
keep on winning, the Sabers keep on winning. It is like,
if you're a Seinfeld fan, it is like the bizarro
world where Elaine has a set of friends that are
different than that are mimics of basically of George, Jerry
and Kramer.
Speaker 2: It is the world losing. You love to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Leaves keep on losing five to two
to the to the Seattle Cracking. So release the cracking.
Things are about to explode in Toronto. Andrew don't know
when it's coming, but I will say this is something's
gonna change, and it's not gonna be them adding players
for a playoff push, because I think at this point,
I think they need to be uh, they need to
come to terms with the fact that they could very
well miss the playoffs. MLS is a huge corporation that
owns the Raptors as well to owns TFC. Uh, they're
just going to have to do without the playoff revenue,
and what playoff revenue would they get anyways, first round
they're normally gone anyway, So they a couple of games.
Speaker 2: I got a question for you, Carl. I'm gonna put
you on the spot.
Speaker 1: You like to put me on the spot sometimes, and
I love to bring up they will a team make
the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Yes or no question? Right now?
Speaker 1: Some teams are running out of runway, even though it's
only you know, closing in on that All Star break
or the Olympic break. And unfortunately, Carmen's even earlier than
you mentioned. It's next Thursday. So last week, last week
kicked off the final week of games here for some
of these teams. And I stand by what I said.
PRESI didn't agree with me. I stand by what I said.
There's some teams that are on cruise control. You don't
think McKinnon knows that he's ready to go try and
win a gold medal next week? You know, I don't
think he'd like to hear this, but I think he does.
But here's my question to you. The Florida Panthers minus
one twenty five to make the playoffs. Looks like Barkov
isn't coming back anytime too soon. I'm looking at the
NHL standings right now. This team has fifty nine points,
but the second wild card spot has sixty seven points.
Would you take that right now? Do you see it
as a by low spot on the Florida Panthers to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't touch it. I just wouldn't touch it because
even with Matthew Deshak coming back, they haven't looked any
different than they did before Andrew. I just don't know.
Maybe after a couple of years they've had or three
straight runs to the finals, and I'm not going to
use that phrase after going to the Stanley Cup finals
three straight years and winning the last two, that they're tired.
These are athletes, They're not tired, but the grind just
isn't there. They're gonna have to put together a run
similar to what they did the year three years ago
where they were toiling in and around where they are
right now and had to make that run to get
into the playoffs. And they played the Boston Bruins, who
won the President Trophy that year, and they knocked off
the Bruins, upset the Bruins on their way to playing
the Vegas Golden Knights and eventually losing in that final
where a ton of their players were injured and they
got blown out in that last game. I think Vegas
scored seven on them or something like that in that
final game. Andrew, I just I just don't see if
they're not even playing well defensively, if nothing else, if
you don't have the scoring. Florida's a team that's been
known for playing defensively. They have allowed one hundred and
seventy four goals in fifty three games. That's north of
three point one to three point two goals per game.
You're not gonna win a lot there. And if Brabrovsky's
going to be your guy that has is going to
have to cover the workload the whole way. I wouldn't
lay that price. I wish I got a bigger plus
price on the know because at this point here all
respect to the defending Stanley Cup champions, but as you mentioned,
they're like eight points back. Is so tough to put
together a run in which even with nineteen games left,
nineteen or twenty nine, twenty nine games left that they're
going to have, they're they're going to have to win
a big portion of those games. I think I'll do
that on the weekend of what the teams below the line,
what clip they're going to have to go at in
order to make it because I believe last season, without
having the standings in front of me Andrew, last season,
I have to believe. I think it was like ninety
something like ninety three or ninety four points got you
into the playoffs. So if it's like, let's hypothetically say
it was ninety three points, they are thirty four points
away from that. That is seventeen wins in twenty nine games.
They only have twenty eight wins right now in fifty three.
Speaker 1: So well, I think in the East this year, Karmen,
it might be closer to ninety eight, but in the
West it's going to be closer to ninety two or
ninety three. And that's why I keep on talking about
the big difference. But you hit it right on the head.
I don't even think it's as much of the offense
right now as this team being a little bit sloppier defensively.
The last thing I'll say about this is that the
Metropolitan Division got better this year. Like Car, I don't
want to speak for you, but I'm just gonna say this.
You know, I'm a big Sydney Crosby fan. I don't
think any of us saw this Pittsburgh team playing the
way they're playing. You know that, I've got any Malcolm
line the year that he's having. Like the difference this
year is that when you look at and first of all,
the Capitols were the number one team in the metro
last year. Let's not forget that. And now they're not
even in the playoffs right now. So you've got Panthers
fifty nine, Capitals fifty nine, Devil's fifty eight, Blue Jackets
fifty seven, Senators fifty seven. I mean, besides the New
York Rangers, everybody's kind of bunched up, but there's currently.
Speaker 2: A pretty big gap.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the Boston Bruins as much as I'm
gonna talk about the Buffalo Sabers and we'll give them
credit and the Pittsburgh Penguins. I gotta tip my cap
to the Boston Bruins because there's been kind of some
unsung heroes on that team that people might not give
credit to. And I know me and you were guilty
of kind of bashing the Leafs a lot, but one
trade that they might have really whiffed on, man, was
that Fraser Minton trade. Fraser Minton was the first line
centerman yesterday for the Boston Bruins, and you know, you
give up a guy like Brandon Carlow, and you know
it looks a little bit different. So anyway, guys, looking
forward to a big weekend. I hope you guys all
had a great Thursday. And for me, it was one
in one day in the NHL carm But it was
a pretty good day overall for us. On puck time,
I think we made some We made some good bets
on punk time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so as well too. Ninety one points
last season got the eighth the eighth and final wild
card team in and that was the Montreal Canadians. So
Florida's off that pace. If it's ninety one points this season,
off that pace, Florida needs thirty two points in their
remaining twenty nine games. That's more than a point per
game that they need in order to get into the playoffs.
I don't know, man, We'll revisit this during the during
the Olympic break or at the start of on February
twenty fifth, at the start of the Dash for the
Cash in the NHL. So, but with that said, Andrew
Columbus and Chicago plus one fifteen in Chicago at home
minus one thirty nine for Columbus on the road, six
naps to total. Here, those are the opening numbers in
this game. They've moved in Lumbus's favor a little bit.
Second of a back to back for the Blackhawks after
getting bounced pretty heavily with Arvid Solder Bloom in goal
last night. So it is going to be Spencer Night
in goal for the Hawks tonight. Where are you going
with this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a good thing that we're going
to see Spencer Night there.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: With this Columbus Blue Jackets team, just the way that
they've looked under coach Rick Bonus, it's been unbelievable. I mean,
you won't to talk about following streaks right now, whether
it be betting Columbus, whether it be taking Buffalo, whether
it be going against Vancouver. There's just certain teams that
you can follow right now that are playing a certain way.
Looking right now at the form, though Columbus controls play
a lot, they generate a lot of chances compared to
Chicago's lack of high danger chances, and just looking at
this right now, I just expect Chicago to give up
a ton of opportunities, and so yesterday it was it
was by just one save, Karen, that I was able
to cash this prop by just one save. But I
think we go back to the save market here and
I'm going to take Spencer Night over twenty five and
a half saves. That's one of the props I'll mention
later on in my prop segment. But this is a
Columbus team that is starting to shoot the puck a
lot more. They surprisingly have more depth than we've seen,
multiple guys contributing, and I feel like that Rick Bonus
has actually activated that out of this roster, like, hey, guys,
we need to see everybody all hands on deck, fire
shots on goal.
Speaker 2: No shot is a bad shot, and we're getting.
Speaker 1: Actually the same number I gave you yesterday on Dobish
who landed on twenty six saves, we're getting that same
number with Spencer Knight today. So karm, Hey, look, it's
not a side, not a total, but this is one
that sticks out to me here. Most people probably should
be able to bet this one over twenty five and
a half saves. For Spencer Chicago's bleeding chances second half
of back to back, they're probably gonna force Spencer night
to have to stand on his head, So I like that,
save prop Man, and hey, they all count the same, right,
so hopefully we can make some money with that one.
And before I go back to you, shout out to
our guys, Ski profit what's up?
Speaker 2: Ski?
Speaker 1: Good morning, see you my friend, and keep crushing it
in the NBA. Man, Always good to have you here.
Speaker 3: I love Ski man. Ski's the best, whether it is
getting together with Ski at the west Gate to play
some horses because the man knows what he's doing, or
at the craps table. I think it's the craps table man.
The guy is absolutely insane. It is a game that
I do not know how to to bet, and this
guy makes money every single time he takes me to
a table. So yeah, shout out to him. And then
he kills it in NBA as well too, So I'll
see him in August when we head to August for
contest this weekend and sign up for some of those
Circa and Westgate contests. Andrew, I'm going with Columbus here.
You know, I got in early on them and now
they're at like one fifty. The coaches bounced seven and
one I believe is their record since Rick Bonus came
a game aboard, I believe, I think if I'm correct,
and that one loss Andrew was to the Ottawa Senators
in Columbus, and we could sort of blow that off
and say, Okay, well, wow, they lost to autow is
not playing well. But if you look at Ottawa's last
five six games, the Sins are playing well. They're starting
to come around goaltending issues obviously for them, but I
think they righted the ship and so maybe that that
is one of those ones where sometimes to use a
horse phrase, horse phrase, Andrew ASKI will know this one
a horse coming out of a key race, which is
like a horse that does not win but competed with
some horses that came out and won their next race.
So they came out and won their next race. That's
what it feels like here. Columbus is gonna Despite the
seven and one run by Columbus, they're still on the
outside looking in in this playoff push. So they're not
taking any days off where we talk about coasting, Uh,
they are not coasting right now. They're they are in
full fledged playoff mode right now. And while it is
Spencer night in goal, if you look at his numbers
over the last four or five starts. Uh, he's got
he's got quite a few. Uh, he's got some losses
in there and some five goal uh some five, some
five goal outings where he's allowed five five goals andrews.
So for me, it's Columbus. As you mentioned, they are
shooting the puck. It's one of those ones where maybe
the player props with some Columbus shot on goal props here,
But it's the Columbus Blue Jackets for me until they
lose a couple in a row. I'm not jumping jumping
off of this coaches bump minus one thirty nine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know how sometimes like you see a team
on a streak, but you start to think, like, maybe
they don't actually deserve some of these wins. This team
really deserves a lot of the wins that they're getting.
That's been the most impressive part of all of this
is you know they're they're playing good hockey on this streak.
And I know it might sound like, well, yeah, obviously
they're winning, but you know as well as I do Carbs,
sometimes teams will get rolling a bit, but you know
they're getting a balancer too. Or their power plays, or
they're playing some shitty teams. Columbus is getting the job done.
I think that they mean it. They're doing pretty well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the thing is, Andrew and I just
wanted to loick this up because I was mentioning it,
but I didn't have the exact numbers to it or
what have you. You know, coming into the season, you
would have to have figured a Columbus was gonna have
a better season than the Chicago Blackhawks. But Blackhawks have
hung tight all season long, even with the Bagard injury.
But I think, I think, I think they're fa team
sort of moving forward in a lot of spots, even
though they tend to play well at home. If you
look at Spencer Knight's starts, and I'm just bringing his
numbers up here, three goals, three goals, four goals, three goals,
he's other than a shutout against the Winnipeg Jets and
what they in which they beat him to nothing, He's
he hasn't been the Spencer Night he was early in
the season. He's like one one in one his last
three games. He's allowed ten goals on seventy eight shots.
So he's starting to a little bit of regression from
him after the great start he's had, But that's also
because he picks up a lot of the volume in
games for this team, for for Chicago, at some point
it wears on you, and I think it's gonna wear
on them more in the second half of the season,
which were smackbab in the middle of and you're gonna
see his numbers come down a bit. His his goals
against average was was very good, but it's now starting
to elevate a bit. It's at two fifty nine ten
save percentage. That's probably going to go with a tick
hire as Chicago continues to lose some games. So I
think Colymbus is the right spot here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know there's sometimes where you look towards
back to backs and you think maybe this team can
have a good effort and things, but it is freaky Friday.
We won't we won't forget to shout that out and
underdogs can be barking here. But I think the I
think the freaky part about today is that we could
see Spencer night and make a ton of great saves.
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm on that save prop.
Speaker 1: But they just give up so many chances that this
is probably a team that they're not going to overlook totals, wisecarm.
You know, obviously some some you know, point props and
shot pops we can look at, but.
Speaker 2: Do you have an ultimate decision? Are you mostly like
that side? You know?
Speaker 3: Andrew? And I was looking at like some different pod plays,
uh for today, and I do have a pod play
for tonight, and I'll mention I'll just mention it later.
I was looking at some various things and even like
in the prop markets, and you know, my lean to
Columbus is it's a leaning. It's likely going to be
just be a client play. I'm not gonna have a
package up because it's only one game tonight. So and
I'm mentioning that I like him here, but I you know,
I also thought, you know, with it's Jet Greaves and
goal for Columbus tonight, you can look at his numbers,
but overall, Jets having a fantastic season, and this is
the type of game in which they catch a team
on the second of a back to back that the
leagues might not be there. And I was looking at
the Chicago team total under, and the under two and
a half is plus one oh five because this kind
of feels like one of those four to two games
to me, that kid turn into a five to two
game for the overbtterers with an empty netter. So you know,
with that through, you know what that said, That's sort
of the way I was leaning. But I will mention
in the pot after these next couple of games that
we're going to talk about, because how can we not
talk about Saturday's action and not talk about because these
lines are just freshly popping in on our odds board
right now. The Buffalo Sabers and the Montreal Canadians. Andrew
Ultimate listen, I get it. Montreal normally has Buffalo's number, Andrew,
I get it. I absolutely understand it. They have their number.
But the Sabers win two games against Montreal in the
past a week and a half or two weeks, and
their minus one twenty two the opening line out of
DK is one to twenty two, and I don't get it.
I honestly don't get at Montreal's plus one oh two
the totals at six and a half. This is one
of those ones where make me understand it. But I'm
going to say this, since since December one, the Buffalo
Sabers have the number one record in the NHL for
the most points earned since December first, number one also
since firing their GM, which happened back on December the ninth.
I believe the Sabers in twenty four games are twenty
three and one, phenomenal record minus won twenty two at
home with a day off or not in the second
of a back to back, or anything for neither of
these teams. Andrew, it's the Sabers for me. But make
me understand why this line is where it.
Speaker 1: Is, hey, I mean, if you use that, you know,
make me understand the fishy line quite a bit. Over
the last couple of days, you've been able to make
some money, so I wouldn't blame you for that one.
The funny thing is here for the Canadians is that
you beat two Western Conference opponents. You beat the Golden Knights,
you beat the Avalanche. But we all know this is
the four point game. You know, you are happy to
pile up the wins against the other teams to get
yourself two points. But these are the wins that you
really like because you need these four point wins. Buffalo Sabers,
You're right, carm They own the Canadians right now. Whether
it's early goals or late goals, they've gotten the better
of the Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 2: The only thing different and we'll.
Speaker 1: See because I have talked about how this player was
always a better goalie when he had a bunch of rest,
and now he's not going to have that same rest anymore.
I have a feeling that the Montreal Canadians are kind
of abandoning Sam Montamba and its time has finally come.
They've given the net to yak Abdobish. His record on
the year, karm he is seventeen five and three, seventeen
five and three, and you think about the fact that
they haven't even played him that many games. They called
up Fowler and they were playing him more than they
were even playing Dobish and seventeen five and three on
the season, which means, you know, there's only been five
games where he played in where he didn't get his
team a point. So that to me is the only
difference here. As far as this matchup is, we're probably
gonna get to see Dobish, It's not confirmed, but either
gonna ride the hot hend. He helps you beat the Avalanche,
he helps you beat the Golden Knights total wise, here,
carm I gotta tell you I have a real tough
time taking any type of unders when it comes to
Buffalo Sabers games. The Hobs are off a seven goal performance.
Do you think there's a world that we could see
a low scoring start to this game just based on
the implications on how big this game is. These teams
know each other, they're familiar with each other. The only
thing that kind of worries me about taking any unders here.
I have a feeling that's gonna be a rough game.
I have a feeling we're gonna see a lot of
power plays, and both these teams can score on the
power play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, I can totally see it. By the way,
the Sabers line is now up to like minus one
thirty from the one to twenty two, So somebody, somebody
must have it's probably a Hal Hal or Karm's number
one fan or og whatever. It's probably him just smashing
on the Sabers. But I could see it. As far
as like projected goalies, it looks like it's going to
be Alex lining goal and he's won his last nine starts,
but he did not play either one of those games
against the Montreal Canadians in which the Sabers won. So
it's a new look for them, so you know, we'll
we'll see how that goes. Speaking of og hater Alex Tuck, Yes,
he hit the twenty goal mark. Another twenty goal season
for Alex Tuck. He's not going anywhere. They're not moving him.
They're not moving players at the trade deadline, Andrew, if anything,
the Sabers could pick up a guy or two. You know,
the problem is, Andrew, when you're when you're doing well
and overperforming, and a twenty three and one for a
Sabers team is over no disrespect, but it's overperforming. Are
you do you make a trade or are you worried
about the chemistry that you currently have?
Speaker 1: Well, they're playing so well right now, you don't really
want to mess with greatness at this point. But it's
it's just crazy, karm. Look at where that team was
in November. Look at where they are now. What a
difference This team has looked so much different. And and
they ask Rasmus Dolleen, of course, the captain of the team.
You know, hey, how does this feel like you know
you're being chased? You're not necessarily chasing on somebody else
and he goes. It's a weird feeling, but I like it.
You know, like he's got teams behind him now trying
to chase them, which is which is great. But yeah,
it's a Buffalo Sabers number. Karm, it's a Buffalo Sabers number.
The I think the books are tired of people beating
them with the Buffalo Sabers, So we'll see.
Speaker 2: I do know that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's I'm worried about as a Canadians fan
because this Buffalo team is Keith's finding ways to win.
And one thing I'll say about them, even though the
Habs have done better against physical teams, the Buffalo Sabers
are kind of built for playoff hockey.
Speaker 2: Man Like, if they get in.
Speaker 1: They're not going to be an easy out, which is
crazy to say, but they're kind of a physical team.
They're a pain in the ass to play against.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Andrew I'm always going to sort of revert
back to they're playing well defensively. Uh, if they get
into trouble in the defensive zone, Uh, they move the
puck around, find a guy to clear it. I like
the way they're playing that they're getting it out of
their out of the just limiting ozone time for for
the opposition. The one you know, the one thing that
you know when we talk about the Buffalo Sabers and
we're gonna move on to Toronto and Vancouver in a
second is my final thought is is the goaltending Lucan
in injured? Uh don't know what the extent of that
injury is. I'm seeing as far as like expect the
goalies for their next three games for the Sabers and
their last three games. I think before prior to the
to the Olympic pause that it's a lion projected for
all three games. So who knows what the injury is
for Uko Peklukanin, but we will see Coleton. Ellis a rookie.
Do you want to have him if the Sabers make
the playoffs? Do you want to have him starting a game?
So it's like Alex Lyon is suddenly becoming the number
one goalie and he did fill in admirably for Brebrovski
and Florida during their Cup run when Boski was injured
for a short little while. But for a cup run, Andrew,
I'm not saying they have it in them, but I
think their goaltending is the one issue that likely scares
me on this team. Just get into the playoffs and
then take it from there. Speaking of getting into the playoffs,
neither one of these teams, Andrew is going to get
into the playoffs. I'm saying it right now. No, I'm
not a leaf hater, but can you have any confidence
in this team, Andrew? The true Leafs minus one forty
eight in Vancouver, Vancouver plus one twenty four total sits
here at six and a half. How are you playing
this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Look, I mean yesterday Seattle were favorites against the Toronto
Maple Leafs. That's a Seattle number here. Now we're seeing
Toronto minus one fifty four, one fifty five, one sixty.
Maybe this is a Toronto number because if the Leafs,
if the books had more respect towards Vancouver, even in
the slightest, this could be maybe a one thirty one
forty towards the Toronto Maple Leafs here given this spot,
given the fact that they've had no easy games against
the Vancouver Canucks. If you look at the Mayple Leafs
are four and six their last ten games versus the
the Canucks. It has not been easy whatsoever for them.
But given that price tag, I know some people can say, well, hey,
it's an even better price for the Canucks here. This
is going to be a game that I think, for once,
the Maple Leafs are going to be able to take
advantage of a.
Speaker 2: Very, very poor defensive team.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget there's been some games recently where they
got good goaltending and the scoring didn't come. But there's
been some games recently where they scored four goals but
their goalie allowed seven. And the difference here is that
I feel like if they can score against the Vancouver Canucks,
they're going to be just fine. I don't think the
Canucks have the scoring power to go toe for toe.
I think this is going to be a twelve round
fight the Leafs and the Canucks. But if you tell
me it's first to five goals wins, I think I'll
take some player props on the Leafs and I'll take
the Leaves to get the job done. Leafs over three
and a half goals. If you guys are playing this game,
don't play the Leafs money line. This is the perfect
team total spot over three and a half goals for
the Maple Leafs. Carm what do you think here? You
think it's a live dog? And I'll tell you what. Also,
I know Canucks fans hate this. It's a Hockey Night
in Canada game starting at seven oh seven pm. But
the game is in Vancouver. What a slap in the
face to the Vancouver fans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I Andrew. The thing that that
amuses me living north of the border is the media
here in Toronto.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As the Leafs left home off of that embarrassing homestand
I'm listening to a couple of the talk shows and
they're like, okay, So the Leaves have four games left
prior to the Olympic break. They have a couple easy
ones to start off in Columbus and Vancouver. They need
to get wins in those ones before they face the
Edmonton Outers and Calgary Flames. What I don't get it. Well,
it wasn't an easy one last night against the Seattle Kraken,
I can tell you that much. And now they're heading
to Vancouver, who we asd some injuries because a Brock
Boser I think is out with the concussion, so I
don't think he's playing but the Vancouver Canucks. You know,
they were shut out in Toronto I think earlier this season.
But they get up for the Leafs. All teams in
Canada get up to play the Leafs and knock them off,
and leaf fans will say, well, that's because it's that's
their Stanley Cup. I'm not necessarily positive about that. But
Vancouver's beating the Leafs for the last six times they've
played them, so and this is essentially the exact same
Leafs team with the exception of Mitch Marner. So you know,
with that said, is it a given that Toronto's going
to go into Vancouver and win? God no, And I
wouldn't lay a dollar forty eight. They're supposed to go
into Vancouver and win the game. Talent wise, they have
more talent on the team, goaltending wise, they have an
advantage goaltending wise, But they've had that over a lot
of teams and they've lost to those teams. So what's
to say they're going to go in here and when
this game I just I do not see it. So
I think the over is the better bet here. Vancouver
off of a great defensive effort against Anaheim, I don't
think they can replicate that two games in a row,
and the Leafs are the Leafs are just they're leaking
oil right now. As far as the defensively there, their
last ten games, eight have gone over the total. They
have the third best record for overs on the season
in the NHL. This just seems like one where yeah,
it's got the hook on it at six and a half,
but I would take the over in this game.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time, you know, not seeing goals
in this one. I just yeah, I could see some
goals for sure. As I mentioned, there's there's been games
where the Maple Leafs have been able to score goals
car and then their goalies end up giving up goals
as well.
Speaker 2: So it's weird.
Speaker 1: And then we have to give credit to Scattle because
Seattle does play a little bit of a difficult defensive
type of style, which can be dificult for teams like
the Maple Leaves to play against.
Speaker 2: So maybe we'll give them some credit.
Speaker 1: So it is a little bit different going from a
Seattle to a Vancouver, So there should be some open
ice in that one and a lot of pressure on
the big guys. And you know what, it's it sounds
crazy to say this. And I know we talked about
the leaves a lot, but this is at this point,
you're you're fighting for contracts, you're fighting for trades, You're
fighting for positions on the team. Like everybody always has
a job, that's the thing. Like in baseball, they play
one hundred and sixty two games, but during those games.
Speaker 2: You have to.
Speaker 1: Showcase yourself, you know, for the next contract for another
team or whatever it might be. So you know, I
think that at this point that game against Vancouver, we're
going to see who are the players that are going
to get kept, who are the players that are going
to leave? And I hate to say this, carm but
there's probably some players on the team that they wouldn't
mind being traded right now, you know, like eck Man,
Larsen or some of these that McMahon I heard some
people even floating around the idea of Max Domi getting
traded and stuff. So who are the untouchables for you
on this team as far as that's concerned, I mean,
I think three Living's done a poor job. I think
that Fraser Minton deal was horrible. I just think that
he's made some top decisions. But who are the untouchables.
Like I think at this point you probably build a
team around a guy like Matthew Knives and I think
between ta various Kneelander and Matthews, you got to trade
one of those guys too.
Speaker 3: This this is a corporate team. They as much as
they have a fan base here Andrew, the seats are
always sold out. Yeah, it's just the way it's It's
just the way it is with this team. It's always
sold out. It'll be sold out. This team could stink
for years to come and they'll be sold out. And
there is a waiting list of people to get the
tickets because it's all corporations that it and and fans
who have been that the tickets have been willed to
them from their parents and their grandparents and what have you.
Then people don't give up their season tickets, They just
give them to the next generation and transferm as far
as so, the fan base to me is the people
actually that travel and stand outside the stadium watching it
on the big screen in like the Jurassic Park area
where the fans for the Raptors always go. Those are
the true fans, not the ones that or some of
the ones that are sitting inside as far as the untouchables,
Max Domi gone, you look at it. Oel I mentioned
on yesterday's show, you got to trade him because he's
never going to have the trade value that he has
right now, and teams are looking for a player like him,
so you can get a first round pick for him.
McMahon gone, like, at this point, you have to say
to yourselves, I think our season is done. And if
they lose to the two of these remaining three games,
if they lose in Edmonton, let's let's say they lose
to either Vancouver or Calgary, they are so far out
of being into the playoffs that even insane second half
run and I don't see it coming because they just
don't have the scoring. The Mitch Marner effect is there. Well,
fans didn't like Marner because of the fact that in
the playoffs the Leafs failed, so they put it all
on his shoulder, saying, oh, you only had like six
assists in a bunch of games. Well, how about all
the other players on the team that underperformed Andrew this
this is a team that is sinking and sinking fast,
and they're a fade for me in the second half
of the season because the books as continued going to
continue to make them favorites at times, and then the
coaching and the g are gone. Trevellian's gone, Barubay's gone.
I'm telling you they're not going to last another season.
Barbays turned this team from a fast paced team during
the regular season that could score goals and win games
and then get into the playoffs and play brutal hockey
to they've turned this team into a slow, pedestrian team. Uh.
And the fact that they're eight and two, they're over
his last ten games, but they're not scoring goals tells
you a lot that we should know about their defensive play. Andrew,
there is no untouchable on this team. Matthews. Has he
extended his contract a couple of years or he signed
that two year deal when his contract runs out, he's
gone to Andrew. The time to rebuild for this team,
if they're smart enough, is now finishing the bottom five,
you retain your first round draft pick that you gave
away by finishing in the bottom five, and you have
a chance at winning the draft lottery.
Speaker 1: Well, they're closer to a number one overall pick right
now than they are to making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So that's all that we have to know.
Speaker 1: All right, Carl, im just one game today, but you
do have a pod for us today, and you continue
to build the bankroll with that, So hats off to you.
One play a day with the with the bankroll and
you're getting the job done.
Speaker 2: What do you have for us today?
Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's keep the politician stuff out of
the all the politics out of the child. Let's talk hockey.
And here's your pod. Off the wing yesterday with Dallas
Stars plus one twelve against Vegas Gold the nights, I'm
taking Columbus minus one forty. Here we're back over the
seven k range. This is straightforward. The coaches bounce seven
and one playing a team that's on the second of
a back to back, both number one goalies in goal.
But I have more faith in Jack Greeves than I
do in Spencer Knights, and they're catching a tire team
as well. To give me the Columbus Blue Jackets minus
one forty as your pod play, There.
Speaker 2: We go the CEA B J C B J Columbus
Blue jack Jay.
Speaker 3: I look so young in that picture. It's just chat
GPT must like me. It's like sir as long as
you continue to make your monthly payments to use chat GPT,
we will continue to make you look younger. The minute
I cancel my subscription, they're gonna make me look like
some old f you know, but it's what it is. Andrew.
I love the fact that you highlight players before you
do your pod because if people are listening to those, sorry,
before you do your same Game parlay listening to those,
they're caching tickets on single bets, on prop plays, which
you're very good at. We put them together in the
same game party because people ask for it, but you
mentioning them at the start is it's invaluable as well
too for guys who are following along. So with that said, Andrew,
give us a same game parlay and some prop plays.
Speaker 1: Well look yeah, Like I said, Carl, I really encourage
people to play these as singles as well, not just
as the same gamers. There's gonna be times where we
hit the same gamers, but these singles have done very well.
Speaker 2: Two, so let's bring it up here.
Speaker 1: We've got four picks, and I'll tell you what, We've
got some pretty good odds here plus eight hundred for today,
and you can get even better odds if you go
ahead and take zach Warensky to get four plus shots
on goal. But the Chicago Blackhawks are the worst team
in the league in shots on goal giving up against defenseman.
Zach Warensky, He's been unbelievable this year. Will be a
Norris candidate in the NHL. We'll take three plus shots
on goal for Marensky. I already told you, guys, I
like Spencer Knight over twenty five and a half saves.
I feel like the Columbus Blue Beckets are gonna pepper
Chicago with shots on goal.
Speaker 2: But Spencer Knight's a great goalie. He will make some saves.
Speaker 1: And then these two guys are on the second line together,
Sean Mona and Ken Johnson. You're getting a plus price
on both of those players. Monahan point and Johnson point. Guys,
can we go into the weekend with a plus eight
hundred winner with the same game parlay. I will remind you, guys,
I am solo betting that Spencer Night over twenty five
and a half saves, and you can probably do a
little bit of a ladder bet on Wrensky. You know,
three plus shots on goal four or five, and again
the Monahan and Johnson. Both of those player props are
plus money. These can be single bet as well. But
if you want to sprinkle everything all together plus eight
hundred for the same game parlay.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be nice?
Speaker 1: Karm just one game today and we just smack a
little plus eight hundred.
Speaker 2: Not too bad.
Speaker 1: And you know, all three of those have all four
of those have pretty good odds behind them. The Warnsky
ones a little bit juiced, but they all have some
pretty good odds. So let's cast this, guys, eight to
one same game parlay, CBJ and Chico.
Speaker 3: I like it, Andrew, before I get and cash stows tickets,
before I get to the six and sixty, which I'll
get to in a minute, and it's going to take
me more than sixty seconds. I was at fifty four
last week, which wasn't bad, So hopefully I can carry
over those six seconds to today's because I probably have
too much information to read off. But I do want
to mention a deal that the office put together for me, Andrew,
if you can pop up that graphic, because you're much
better at this production stuff than I am. The rest
of the NHL season, guys, you get the rest of
the NHL season, and this is the Cup to Cup.
You'll get all of the World Cup this summer. Once
hockey ends, the World Cup starts and there's nothing on
other than baseball, so it gives you something else to
bet on. The World Cup in North America this year,
US Canada and Mexico, and all the times of the
games are all great times of course throughout the day
and in the evening, so you can watch them like
any other sport. Get both deals. If you pick up
the NHL package, you get the World Cup for free,
for free three twenty nine. Great deal. The World Cup
package itself, when it goes on sale later on this year,
is going to be three twenty nine, sorry, two ninety nine,
So you're getting that. You're getting a great deal for that,
So take advantage of that one. And with that said, Andrew,
let's now get to the six and sixty.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: I am ready? Five zero and one last week a
perfect almost a perfect six and zero. You're six and sixty.
Here we go, Toronto and Vancouver taking over six and
a half leaves eight and two last ten to the
over third best team in the league at thirty two
to twenty and two. La Kings and Philadelphia King's money
line here third and four nights for Philly, and they're
two and ten their last twelve games. Kings third best
road record in the West. New Jersey and Ottawa sends
money line after seven to one five two wins over
Vegas and Colorado. We could see beat. We could see
a revival to the Ottawa Centers season Rangers and Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh money Line. Two teams going in opposite directions. Enough said,
Pittsburgh money Line, Montreal and Buffalo Buffalo money Line number
one points since December first, twenty three and one the
last twenty four games. And finally, Seattle and Vegas Vegas
money Line. Vegas with tired legs in their first game
back off an East Coast trip. They'll be much better
in their second game at home against Seattle. They've only
lost once at home to Seattle in franchise history. Take
Vegas money Line. That is your six and sixty.
Speaker 1: All right, Some good games on tap, some good games
on tap for the Saturday slate, Car, I cannot wait
for it. You know how the NHL does it. They
do it what they do best. Fifteen games on Thursday,
one game on Friday, and then a handful of games
starting early as well, a handful of games starting early
on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to a really great slate.
Speaker 3: Andrew someone asked about the World Cup preview. I will
be doing a World Cup preview show with Kelly Stewart,
but I will have a downloadable World Cup betting guide.
It's just going to explain to you because it is
the first time the World Cup has as many teams
as has this year. Of course they added more teams.
I'm waiting for the March March European playoffs to see
what the final four nations are that make it into
the World Cup. Let's see if Italy can find it
qualified for one. They've missed the last two World Cups. Man,
but if they make it in. Once that is set,
I'm pretty much done. It's going to be a pretty
big It's about twenty five pages long. It'll be downloadable
and it'll be free to download. I'm putting in a
ton of hours and I have someone helping me with
a lot of the graphics. It is going to be
a very good thing. And it's not just a preview.
It's going to explain to you how to bet match
day ones, match day twos, and match day threes because
there's a different there's a different way and method to
bet every single match day as the tournament progresses, and
then obviously the knockout stages. So with that said, I'm
guessing the beginning of April is when it'll be ready,
just before the NHL Playoffs starts. So with that said,
hopefully i can make you guys some money. No plays
in the NHL, because you know, I got the pod
that is the only client play. I'm going to have
up two plays in afternoon soccer today. I've already got
three loaded for tomorrow that are four percent best bets,
and my NHL card for Saturday is going up shortly,
So pick up that three day all access guys, and
let's try and make some money. Four and one yesterday,
including three to Ozero in the NHL or we picked
up nine units, including that rocking chair winner on the
over in the Detroit Red Wings game. Oh dear God,
Andrew Andrew Man. People got to pick up your Olympic
hockey because I've been talking to you about Olympic hockey
the last few weeks and some of the stuff that
you are I'm not gonna say spewing, but telling me
about is unbelievable. Andrew's gonna have a ton of plays
up during the Olympics and he's got a great deal up.
I think it's fifty nine dollars. Tell us about it
and tell us what you have going on and close
up the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really really excited here, carm Thanks very much
fifty nine bucks here, guys for every single pick, every
single play that I give out during the Olympics, and
especially with how different the time is going to be
for these Olympic games, you really want to be tapped
in with.
Speaker 2: This all access package.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be games going on in the morning, going
to be going on in the midday, afternoon, depending on
where you're living. But for us, you know on the
East Coast, there's morning games, there's lunchtime games. You don't
really know when you're gonna be having to get your
bets in. Make sure you get this package. You're gonna
get every single pick that I make in the Olympics
right in this one package, so looking forward to it.
You should get no fewer than twenty plays across props, sides, totals,
all that good stuff. Futures potentially, So it should be
a really, really good, good tournament. And I'll tell you what,
Guys like I have been researching the France team, the
Italian team, like the Denmark team. It's not just about
the Canada, USA and the Sweden. We're talking about goal
lines of three and a half, four and a half.
Totals are going to be extremely high. I'm locked and loaded.
Some of you guys have already joined me on this package.
And if anybody is interested for about I think it's
you know, twelve thirteen days of picks. Don't forget about
the NHL, but also join me with the Olympics during
this break. It gonna be a really good time. And
k We've got hockey every single day during this Olympics.
So I cannot wait for it. And you know, I'm
gonna miss the NHL, but I cannot wait to watch it.
So guys at my page WT dot buzz slash Am,
you guys can grab that for fifty nine dollars and Karen,
I'll just mention this, I got a five percent play
going tomorrow. I'm waiting for the for the odds to
kind of spread apart each book right now only one
or two books have odds up, but I found a
play I really really do like five percent.
Speaker 2: Big bet.
Speaker 1: We're four and one in January with five percent plays,
we'll try and make it five and one and get
a big win for you guys to close off the month.
Speaker 2: So looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: As we always say, small slate on Friday, big slate
on Saturday. Make sure you guys are grabbing Carmine soccer plays.
But what a deal that is World Cup plus NHL.
Karen puts in the time does his research, make sure
you guys check it out. Kopek says, is gonna be
fifty nine dollars up until the start. Yes, fifty nine
dollars up until a day before the tournament. Kopek, you'll
have that so one day before the tournament, then the
package might be a little bit frozen and go away.
So that will do it for puck time. Guys, thanks
so much for watching. We really appreciate it. I know
it's a long show, but hopefully you guys love hockey
as much as we do as well. Last thing, I'll
mention the pre scout. I'm gonna have a show up
tonight going every single game on the board every single
game for Saturday's NHL Slate special guest Ian Cameron Bobano
Betts joining me.
Speaker 2: Can't wait to have him on the show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go over every single thing in hockey and
every single game on the Saturday Slate. Thanks for watching, guys,
We'll see you next time.