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And again, thank you so much for your support. If

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you did not listen to the last two hours, that hurts,

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but you can get the podcast. And I would advise

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the anonymous Democrat on the text line to go back

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and listen to the two hours that I just spent

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using source material from the New York Times and axios

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talking to democrats and about democrats about the massive problems

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they are having in their popularity, and it is reflected

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in the absolute plummeting of their voter registrations. They are

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hemorrhaging voters. And I don't know how you can hear

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all of that reporting here, all of the data, the

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science right, the strategists and all of these consultants like

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these democrats who do this for a living, and they

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are sounding the alarm and saying this is a huge problem.

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We're losing voter registration. We're not registering Democrats in the

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numbers that we used to, and in fact, Republicans are

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outpacing us and they're overtaking us and this Democrat on

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our text line. Here's maybe they didn't hear the whole

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two hours, which is why I said go back and

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listen to the podcast. Maybe you didn't hear all that,

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because otherwise I don't know how you hear all of

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that data and text me the following Democrats can win.

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We just need Republicans to stop cheating racial jerrymandering.

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Speaker 1: Got it.

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Speaker 2: With all due respect, Democrat Texter, stop being a dumbass. Okay,

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you don't have to live like this.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to listen to any of the I

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think pretty awesome suggestions that I offered. You don't have

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to take my advice on any of that stuff. In fact,

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I prefer you don't. I would like nothing better than

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to see the Democrat Party tossed into the dust bin

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of history. You've got a terrible reputation. Awful people in

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American history were part of your party. They did terrible things.

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You offer no good solutions, and you are populated by

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communists and people that hate our country and what it

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stands for. I would be fine with you guys going away,

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but if you but if you want to try to

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save the party, you probably should open your eyes and

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ears to the data that is being presented to you.

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Racial jerrymandering, partisan jerrymandering, redistricting, none of that, absolutely, none

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of it has any impact on your voter registration numbers.

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They are completely different things. The data I gave you

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was about voter registration. That's why they're sounding the alarms

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inside your own party. They're saying the registration numbers North

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Carolina is about to flip from a Democrat Republican majority

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to a Republican Democrat majority by registration. Now the number

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one actually is unaffiliated because we have open primaries. But

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the Democrats have been above the Republicans since the Civil War.

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Why do you think that's changing. It's nothing you're doing,

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It's the Republican's fault. Like this is why I say

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they can't fix themselves. They just can't because they don't

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believe that the things they say and the policies they

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support are not popular. They refuse to believe it. I know,

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like Republicans come up with ideas and I can tell like, oh,

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that's not going to be a popular idea. Oh that's

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I don't know if. I don't know if the public

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are going to get behind them on that right. But

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Democrats believe that every one of their policies is where

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most Americans are, if not all Americans, and the only

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people that oppose them are racist. Voter registration is not

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a product of redistricting.

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Speaker 1: Number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two, the most gerrymandered states are Democrat controlled, which

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is why with the redistricting war that is now erupting,

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Democrats are not going to come out of that ahead

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because they've already jerrymandered the states they control to the

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point where they can't squeeze out any more seats. And

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there are way more Republican states that if they proceed

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down this path as well, they can squeeze out way

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more because the Democrat maps are way more unfair. And

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by the way, the Texas legislature that just approved their

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new maps, those aren't racial jerrymanners in fact, in fact,

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it's going to yield more Hispanic districts. Now they may

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vote Republican but that's not a racial jerrymander. By the way,

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this same thing happened in North Carolina when Republicans drew maps.

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I believe this would have been twenty twenty, but it

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could have been twenty ten. I've lost track of all

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the different lawsuits and all the different times the Republicans

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had to redraw lines based on constantly changing standards from

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the courts. But the Democrats, I believe this was actually

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twenty ten when the Republicans drew their lines and Democrats

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sued claiming racial jerrymanders. The Republican maps actually yielded more

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black representatives and senators. Now, it came at the expense

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of white Democrats, and that's why they sued. Yeah, that's

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why they sued because it gave black Democrats more seats

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versus white Democrats, and the white Democrats didn't want to

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lose their seat, so they got the maps tossed, which

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yielded less black representation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go Oliver youa. Let's talk to Chris real quick. Hey, Chris,

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what's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's up, Skinny Pete?

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Speaker 2: How you doing good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm hanging the top, doing better than I deserve. I

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just wanted to kind of give a quick run down

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to my personal experience as a party switcher. I registered

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as a Republican as a kid when I was able

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to first start voting, and was pretty disenfranchised by the

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time I was in my late twenties early thirties and

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switched to independent, and fair enough for everybody out there

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that's like, I can't be associated with either party, like

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this is just neither one of them. They're both full

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of snakes and vipers and things. But it quickly, well quickly.

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It took me about a decade to realize I was

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just kind of wandering in the desert as an independent

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and I wasn't moving either party in the direction that

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I desired. So as a guy who wants to keep

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boys out of girls locker rooms and believes in the

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right to life and things like this, I decided I

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would go back to the Republican Party and start trying

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to do my part to make it the party that

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I think it should be. And I would just love

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to encourage others that are out there and have just

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gotten to the point where they don't want to associate

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the Republican Party or the Democrat Party to consider it

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and to consider joining the local executive committee or get

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involved and start trying to change it from the inside,

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because there is no independent meetings, there is no independent structure.

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There's nobody. You're in the desert wandering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's true.

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Speaker 2: People who want to actually affect change and make a

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difference have the opportunities to do so. But it means

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you have to actually get involved and turn up. You

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got to show up at play rounds. Yeah, that's it.

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It's like people who complain all the time about voting,

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you know and election integrity stuff, and I asked them, okay,

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well have you have you signed up to you know,

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volunteer or go work the polls, because you could do

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that and then you would be able to see the

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system play out and you'd be eyes and ears if

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there is any kind of chicanery, like you would be

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helping to correct these.

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Speaker 1: Problems you have identified.

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Speaker 2: So if people did that they got more involved, I

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think it would you know, scratch the itch for them,

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but yeah, it would also I think lead to some

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positive change.

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Speaker 3: And one last point, it's not just the number. You

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can't just go by the letter like oh, it's a

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numb Republican I'm cool, No, man, that Republican may be

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worse than the Democrat. You got to look into their

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track record, their history, and the only way to do

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that is kind of to be part of that party.

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To get in and to get to the grassroots and

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to get involved and find these local stories and these

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local you know people that know these you know, know

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the folks as who they are and what they stand for.

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So yeah, Cobara's County Citizens. If anyone's listening, join our

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris, I appreciate the call, buddy, Thanks so.

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Speaker 3: Much, Thank you man.

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ruling that election day is one day and ballots arriving

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Still not tired of the winning, Just for the record,

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Still not tired, all right, So let's talk redistricting. The

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Democrat on the text line claims that this is the

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reason why Democrats aren't winning it's all because of redistricting.

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And I you know, I do agree that the composition

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of the House of Representatives has been impacted by redistricting,

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jerrymandering and such. It's because that's also tied to the census.

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And we've gone over this before. But the Sense overcounted

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six states, I believe it was, and they undercounted six

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other states. And the states that they overcounted were Democrat states,

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giving them additional seats, and they undercounted red states which

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cost them seats. So in fact, the Republicans should have

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a larger majority than they have right now. So Texas

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lawmakers yesterday passed a new congressional district map with the

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intent to flip five Democrat held US House seats to

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Republican control in next year's midterm elections. Texas Republicans were

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able to proceed after dozens of Democrat lawmakers on Monday

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ended a two week walkout from the state House in

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Austin that deprived the House of the quorum needed to

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hold a vote. And for people who might be asking,

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a quorum is the minimum amount of people needed for

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a body to pass legitimate votes, right, that's the minimum

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number of people in attendance. The bill to redraw the

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map passed along party lines eighty eight to fifty two.

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It was a little bit different than the version that

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was passed by the Senate. So they're going to go

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back and they've got to hammer out an agreement on

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a final version, and then that will go to the governor.

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Greg Abbott, a Republican who has said he will sign it.

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House debate in Texas came on the eve of floor

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action expected in California State Senate for a redistricting package

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championed by Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom to redraw his state's

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congressional map to flip five Republican seats into the Democrat column,

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thereby negating the increased count out of Texas. Want to

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play a SoundBite for you. This is Senator Christopher Cabal

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Dawn c A baldn So his name is like CA

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for like California Bald, which he is.

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Speaker 1: And then on so Cabal Dawn.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, listen to what he says and see if you

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can decipher where he gives away the game. And I'll

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give you a hint. He's going to use a different

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term than illegal alien. All right, that's your hint, So

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be listening. See if you can hear where he gives

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away the game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if a year from now or a month from now,

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or if a week from now, if your cousin is

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kidnapped off the street, if UCLA closes down, if we

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announce that there won't be an election, if the census

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that we're relying on for the Commission's next stab at

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redistricting doesn't include one point five million Californians in it,

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if we have no democracy left, and we look back

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and said, if only we could have done something, Well,

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the nice thing about this is that we are in

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a time machine. We can do something. We know what

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is company coming because it's in pribs of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Did you catch it? He said?

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Speaker 2: One point five million Californians that's for some reason, would

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not have been counted in the census in twenty thirty.

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If for some reason, one point five million Californians don't

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get counted, why wouldn't they be counted? That's weird, right,

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are you saying the census isn't able to count? I mean,

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if anything, they over counted California last time around, So

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why would one point five million Californians not be counted. Oh,

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he's talking about illegal aliens, which sort of gives away

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the game as to why Democrats want there to be

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open borders. As I went over in the first two

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hours talking about the Democrat Party voter registration numbers circling

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the drain. They're just bleeding voters. They and it literally

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is happening in every single state, every single state where

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voters register by party, Democrats are losing them and Republicans

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are gaining them.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, if you have open borders and you could bring

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in a whole bunch of people, but they don't get

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to vote, they don't get to register to vote theoretically,

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but they're not registering to vote, but they get counted

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in the census. Democrats get to keep more seats. That's

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the game, and it's been the game. And that's why

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Trump in twenty twenty and now is saying we should

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not be counting illegal aliens. You get this thing changed,

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Democrats lose even more seats. Back to this piece, This

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is from reuters dot Com. Newsom and his Democrat allies

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in the state legislature are aiming to achieve fast track

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passage of their newly drawn map by Friday, and that

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would be in time to put it on the ballot

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for voters in a special election set for November fourth.

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And the California Supreme Court turned down an emergency petition

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that was filed by four Republican state lawmakers that tried

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to block the legislative action for thirty days, and the

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court said no. Other Republican states, including Ohio, Florida, Indiana, Missouri,

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are all moving forward with or considering their own redistricting efforts,

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as are Democrat states such as Maryland and Illinois, which

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they have already jerrymandered the ever loving bejeebas out of

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those states. You don't have any more seats to jerrymander,

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like there's like nothing left to do. Remember remember Adam Kinsinger,

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the Republican guy that would cry all the time and

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his hatred of Trump. This was a guy who threw

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his lot in with the Democrats, was on the j

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six Committee and all of that, and they rewarded him

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by jerrymandering him out of his district in Illinois. We

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talked about this when the Texas Democrats fled to Illinois

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complaining of jerrymandering. Yet going to a state that's one

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of the worst jerrymanders in America. If you guys want

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to embark on this war, I guess we're already in it.

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Let's see how it shakes out. Here's a great idea.

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and make memories that'll last a lifetime. The anonymous Democrat

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on the text line has responded, this is completely off topic.

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I don't know why, but DC does not the highest number.

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I think he meant to say, does not have the

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highest number of homicides.

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Speaker 1: It's number eight.

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Speaker 2: The top three are Saint Louis, Memphis, and Baltimore than

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New Orleans. Why not go there? I assume you're not

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talking about me going there personally. I assume you're saying,

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why not send the troops to these other cities? Well,

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those cities can actually call in National Guard and make

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a request of their own governors. They can do that themselves.

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Here's the difference. Washington d C. Is a federal district.

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The president has the authority to do what he is doing.

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There's your difference, glad, I could clear that up for you.

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Feel free to put your name on these texts so

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I can identify your just buy your first name.

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Speaker 1: You can give a fake name too, but.

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Speaker 2: Unless you want to just be known as anonymous Democrat, John,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hello John, Hey, how you doing, Petey? Quick? Just a

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quick comment. I used to live in California. I still

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have a lot of friends out there, and this reapportionment

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of the congressional districts could really backfire on the Democrats

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because they have diced and sliced those districts so much.

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And I can tell you, you know a lot of my

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friends out there. I still keep in touch with quite

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a few people. They're all upset about what's going on

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out there. And some of them were like raving liberals before,

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but now they're telling me that, you know, they won't

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tell anybody this because California is the king of the

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cancel culture. But a lot of them voted for Trump

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in the last election. And if you look at the

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last election turnouts and that if they're basing all this

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reapportionment on old numbers in that they may be in

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for real surprise because rather than picking up seats, they

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may lose more seats.

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Speaker 1: You are, yeah, you are exactly right.

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Speaker 2: The problem that California's got is, like you said, sliced

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and diced already. And when you create a district that

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you think, maybe you know, more likely to be won

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by a Democrat. Like let's say you're taking a district

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that's a D plus seven, that's a safe seat for

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a Democrat. Then you turn that into a D plus

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three or plus two. Now get you get a red

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wave election and you're screwed and you've lost.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I don't think they've thought this, Sue.

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I think they just Gavin new some. I mean, what

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people out there tell me is this whole thing is

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about Gavin Newsom running for president. Right as far as

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the people on the Palisades are concerns and everything else,

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you talk to them, they they're afraid to go to

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these public meetings and speak out about lack of help

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and the blaze and getting building permits, and all of

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us say, because if you go there, the first thing

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you have to do is, you know, you have to

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identify yourself. You have to say, hey, I'm Pete Calendar.

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I love at such and such an address. You say

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anything against that council or anything, you'll get docts the

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next day and they'll come after your employer, right, those

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people there writing down those numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah. This is again. It's the

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I talked about it last hour.

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Speaker 2: The permission structure, and then and then that leads to

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a preference cascade. When people feel safe to speak their

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mind and realize they're not the only ones that are

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thinking these things. That creates the permission to say those things,

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and more people then kind of flood through and say

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me to me too. They stand on their desks and say,

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you know, oh, captain, my captain, there's another dead.

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Speaker 1: Poet society reference.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and that's why, like people think, and this

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the North Carolina Democrats, uh, sort of the poster child

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for this. They drew the maps for a century in

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North Carolina, and you know, Republicans beat them on their

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own maps in twenty ten because right, because Democrats had

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done this for so long and they they made too

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many districts where they had diluted their own advantages that.

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Speaker 1: The seats then flipped on them. So you know, better be.

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Speaker 5: Careful Anyways, that's my that's my combat. Enjoy the soul.

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Thanks you good one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you too. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a very good Uh, it's a

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very good point. And there is a there is a

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real risk for Democrat controlled states and Republican controlled states

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if they've done this sort of thing too, Like, there's

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not a whole lot that you can do if you've

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already been you know, cutting these districts smaller and smaller

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and smaller because you're trying to capture you know, more

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safe seats, but you don't have enough voters. And that's

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a problem for the Democrats. That ties into the voter

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registration issue. If you've got the declining voters, you got

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the declining support. Now you don't have as big a

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whol to slice and dice from Travis.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, Travis, and.

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Speaker 6: Mister beat I had two points or observations are questions.

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The first one is, I think one of the problems with.

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Speaker 7: Jerry managering their drawing districts is the idea that you're

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just voting for the r or the deeds.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's already kind.

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Speaker 7: Of happening in the primaries, because you're basically just voting

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for the guy with the most money or the best

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connections who can present themselves as right because there's so

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many people in the district. He has there millions of dollars.

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So either you've got to have the back end of

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the groups that can give you a name as a

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conservative or as was a conservative.

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Speaker 6: And who are they, what are they.

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Speaker 7: Based, what are their interests, you.

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Speaker 6: Know where they're basing that on. So I think we're

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going to have to at.

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Speaker 7: Some point in that future expand the number of seats

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in the.

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Speaker 6: House representatives because we just I don't think this is

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ever meant to function with one representative representing two hundred

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thousand people who never get.

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Speaker 7: To interact with them.

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Speaker 6: You're so removed from the face of.

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Speaker 1: So what what size district would you prefer?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's seventy thouars.

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Speaker 2: I mean those are state House seats and uh and

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state Senate seats.

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Speaker 7: That's what it originally was. I believe.

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Speaker 6: There was much much the the person per representative.

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Speaker 2: They have expanded you're you're right, You're yeah, they have

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expanded the House. I believe they've expanded it before.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be any I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 1: I seem to recall that well, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you right now, the population of a

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district is over eight hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 6: That's huge and I just don't anyway. So that's well.

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Speaker 1: But but you have states.

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Speaker 2: But you have states also that have more than a

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million people in them that have you know, two senators

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that represent you know, two senates represent California, and they've

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got millions of people.

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Speaker 1: So again, like Y.

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Speaker 6: It's supposed to be different. I mean, I know it was.

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Speaker 2: Supposed to be represented by legislative appointments. Yeah, Travis, I

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got a run. I appreciate. I know you had another comment,

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but I'm up against the break. I do appreciate the call.

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Let me jump back to the phones here and get

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John on. Hello John, Welcome to the shoe.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, be thank you for taking my car.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 8: I believe North Carolina Democrats with in the news today

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the headline, they'd be better served to watch the even

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news and the weathermend report about the riptides on the

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coast and figure out that they're in that same situation

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and they keep swimming against that riptide they're getting further

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and further from shore and wearing themselves out.

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Speaker 2: I see what you did there, topical tied it into

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the news and a double meaning as well. John Well

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played sir.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir, you have a great afternoon.

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Speaker 2: All right, you too. I appreciate it. Yeah, they are, Yeah,

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they're getting and you try to tell them this, they're like, again,

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I spent two hours going over New York Times axios

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with all of the quotes from all of these Democrat

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data people and strategists and stuff, and they're all sounding

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the alarm. And then you get the Texters that are

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like and you get some Democrats that are quoted in

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those pieces too, and they're like, oh, it's just the message,

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or in the Texter's case, it's the jerrymandering. That's why

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we're losing. Yeah, you don't lose seven swing states in

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a presidential race. You don't lose seven swing states because

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of jerrymandering. That's not how that happens. And anyway, the

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data on all of this is based on voter registration.

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So California now in order to try to combat what

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Texas is doing, which by the way, not for nothing,

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but Texas is actually allowed to do a mid decade redistricting.

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They're allowed to do it. They're following the law. You

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may not like that, but they are following the law.

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There's nothing illegal about what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: California, on the other hand, that's a bit different. See

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California actually has a constitutional provision that says lawmakers are

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not allowed to draw maps, which, by the way, they did.

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The California Democrats drew themselves a map in secret, and

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now they're going to put this on the referen on

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a ballot for a referendum because they need voter approval

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to not go through their quote independent Redistricting Commission. Okay,

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that's what's constitutionally proscribed, independent redistricting commission. But they want

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to throw those maps out, so they need to go

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to the voters to ask for it. California has already

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has an overwhelmingly Democratic delegation in Congress, reports Colmatters dot org.

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Speaker 1: It's on the left.

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Speaker 2: Governor Newsom's plan could give his party five more seats

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and off set a Texas jerrymander.

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Speaker 1: And it could.

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Speaker 2: It might not because again, they've already jerrymandered it pretty well,

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and states like California, Illinois, New York, Maryland, they've already

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jerrymandered to disproportionately advantage Democrats. And when you look at

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their maps, they are insane. They you know it's there.

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People talk about jerrymandering like, oh, I'll know it when

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I see it, you know, because you look at some maps,

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and you wouldn't be able to tell just looking at

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the map that this is obviously a jerrymander. You could

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look at other maps, like the one in Illinois where

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you got some part of it that starts in the

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southern part of Illinois and then gets really really tiny

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and goes up and then turns left and then goes

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up again, and then turns right and goes up to

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the top right. It's like this tiny little squiggle line.

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Maryland is no better, and they do that in order

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to disenfranchise Republican voters. So you have states where you've got,

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like California, forty percent of California, I believe was had

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voted for Donald Trump, but they don't have forty percent

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of the House seats.

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Speaker 1: And that's the.

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Speaker 2: Proportional argument that Democrats have made in North Carolina for

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twenty years, that we need to look at proportional representation

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so whatever the presidential candidate gets, that's how many seats

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we should get. However many votes go what percentage of

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the votes go for a governor, then that's how many

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seats we should get. Whatever argument they need to make

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at any given time. But you look at their states

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that they control, and they don't reflect those values. They

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don't have a consistent standard. So it's just an argument

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that they make in a particular state. Like Mark Elias,

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the Democrat lawyer who sues North Carolina every other week

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and sues us on our redistricting maps, yet then defends

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the Maryland map which was thrown out, or sorry, the

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New York map, which was thrown out as a gerrymander.

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They had to do another one. Republicans stand to lose

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more than half their seats in the state in California,

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so listen to that. The party, so they want to

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redraw the districts in California, and California's got somewhere around

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I forget sixty House members, right, and Republicans are going

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to lose five seats under the California map, five seats,

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and that means they would lose half their seats, which

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means what they have ten, so they have ten out

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of sixty, but they vote Republican by like it's a

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sixty to forty split. Democrats don't give them forty percent

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of the seats. Supporters, led by Gavin Newsom, can tend

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they are saving democracy by stopping Trump from rigging the

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outcome of the midterms. Ultimately, California voters will likely decide

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in a special election this November. Unlike Texas, where the

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legislature determines congressional lines, California voters in twenty ten gave

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that power to a bipartisan citizen commission. The commission draws

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a new map once each decade after the census. Newsom

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is proposing to temporarily suspend the democracy in order to

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save the democracy. You see, so temporarily override the commission

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and create districts favorable to Democrats until the twenty thirty census,

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and then we'll totally go back to that old way

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of doing things and give Republicans more seats at that point.

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Speaker 1: Tour Okay.

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Speaker 2: Democrat officials drew a map in secret, they shared it

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to the public on Friday.

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Speaker 1: The legislature.

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Speaker 2: Three quarters of the members or Democrats planned to vote

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before the end of the week to put that map

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on the ballot, because they're on a tight time frame here,

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because the lines need to be in place by the

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end of the year, so you know, if you're going

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to run for office, you know what your district looks like.

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Newsom is looking at the November fourth special election to

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consolidate with the municipal elections which are already happening across

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the state. Ballots have to be ready though, by late September,

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so they are on a bit of a time crunch here.

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A Politico poll found that nearly two thirds of California

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voters prefer retaining the state's independent redistricting Commission, So they

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got a bit of a heavy lift here. And there's

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going to be a ton of money that comes in

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from Charles Munger, longtime Republican donor, who poured twelve million

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dollars into the campaign to pass the independent redistricting and

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he is opposed to this reference. All right, that'll do

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it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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