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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? Welcome to the Rugby League Coach Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two hundred and fifty. How good a number does

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<v Speaker 1>that sound? A quarter of one thousand? And we're in

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<v Speaker 1>season four of it too. I am Lee Addison. I

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<v Speaker 1>am the owner of Rugby League Coach dot com au.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a coach mentor, I'm a coach educator, a coach

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<v Speaker 1>consultant a few other things. I'm also one author of

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<v Speaker 1>Rugby League Coach thirteen game Changing Conversations to Transform your coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>And I consume a lot of water, and as I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you every week, my water is sponsored by the

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<v Speaker 1>Global League Network that you can find at Global League

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<v Speaker 1>Dot Network. Aard of me. There's a word of one

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<v Speaker 1>to get into every coach's head today. Deliberate, Be deliberate.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean when I watch so many of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches that I'm mentor and many coaches that I

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<v Speaker 1>have mentored and do mentor and no doubt will mentor

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk to them in a seminar or in

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting that we have and I say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the type of coaching I would do, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is best, and then I explain why I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's best the majority sit there and say back, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm doing or Okay, that's what we'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>And anybody who's listened to me for significant enough amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time will know I'm a fan of games based

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<v Speaker 1>training and drills that absolutely relate to the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the biggest disconnector find Number one, it's the perception

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<v Speaker 1>of how specific those things need to be to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But number two, it's the actual level of being deliberate

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<v Speaker 1>as a coach. And I think I'm going to work

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<v Speaker 1>around this phrase a little bit so, particularly when I

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<v Speaker 1>came to Australia, I realized, after coaching in England for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, and obviously born and raised in England, that

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<v Speaker 1>in England your average male or female tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more intense. They'll hit you straight in

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes with whatever it is that needs to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly us from up north. For example, if you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>the session at six pm and some of your players

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<v Speaker 1>are dragging their heels at two minutes past six, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess a Northern english person is more allowed to say

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<v Speaker 1>hurry your ass up and get over here now. As

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<v Speaker 1>a rule, I find and aussy coaches a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>relaxed with that kind of thing, and they're a bit

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<v Speaker 1>less deliberate when they start their training and they say

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<v Speaker 1>things like, right, we're just going to do this, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than starting with a deliberate start to the session

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<v Speaker 1>and a description of what they're going to do in

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<v Speaker 1>this session, a pep talk about the quality of what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see, and then a clear description of

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<v Speaker 1>the first session of the first part of the session

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to do, and clear instructions or as

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<v Speaker 1>clear as you can make them. So if you picture

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<v Speaker 1>the scene I'm trying to create at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>training at six o'clock, the coach has got his team

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<v Speaker 1>or her team hopefully in a circle or a semi

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<v Speaker 1>circle rather than just milling around, and anybody who's late

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<v Speaker 1>to that semi circle or circle a hurrying. The lake

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<v Speaker 1>comes on. So there's a clear definition and a deliberate

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<v Speaker 1>definition between non training time and training time. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I will continue to argue with everybody on social media

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<v Speaker 1>who will say to me, we do a lap to socialize.

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<v Speaker 1>We do a lap of the field at the start

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<v Speaker 1>for the players to socialize. No training starts. When training starts,

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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be a clear difference between pre training

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<v Speaker 1>and genuine training. Otherwise you get the concentration levels that

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<v Speaker 1>you desire. So a lot of it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>how deliberate you are as a coach. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>now the start of the session. I need you to concentrate.

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<v Speaker 1>I constantly bang on on this podcast about doing pulse

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<v Speaker 1>raisers before dynamics. Pulse raisers such as a drill with

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in the hand, a game of some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>All those joggers around the field were saying, well, look's

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<v Speaker 1>where we do. The jogger roam the field. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>told you why why not? You shouldn't bother with that

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand times too. Apart from the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not preparing anyone for a marathon, you're preparing them for

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league and you need to develop the skills. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the next thing I want to talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>is the quality of those stretches that you do. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it comes down to being deliberate. Let's say you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a team doing high knees bum flicks. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Karry oaks three things, three dynamic exercises. Google them if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what they are, and you just get

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<v Speaker 1>them done and you don't correct the poor technique. Particularly

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<v Speaker 1>with younger players, the techniques are going to be quite poor.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to be deliberate about fixing that. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to We are doing dynamics, and we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>them properly. We are going to be more deliberate about

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<v Speaker 1>how we do dynamics. So if you don't do them properly,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do them again, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do them again. I want you to do this now. Players,

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<v Speaker 1>you will do it how I want until we get

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<v Speaker 1>it right. So if again, if you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>picture the scene, your typical coach I see at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is probably because they haven't had this level

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<v Speaker 1>of training. Quite frankly, it's not a criticism. Players will

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<v Speaker 1>just drift into into the session whenever they like it.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll invariably do dynamics first. The dynamics will be of

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<v Speaker 1>poor quality, poor repetitions of each. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are doing these dynamic stretches don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many they should do, how many sets of each And

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<v Speaker 1>also they move up and down in a or they're

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<v Speaker 1>meant to move up and down in a line. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect time to develop your line discipline even

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<v Speaker 1>while they're doing dynamics. So if you imagine now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking again about the word deliberate, what you are

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<v Speaker 1>now perceiving as the start of your session that you

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<v Speaker 1>just need to get through. We start the session and

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<v Speaker 1>then we get to the nice stuff for the drills. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what it is now is you have a clear start

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<v Speaker 1>time and anybody whose late knows about it. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, just hurry your backside here and get in

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<v Speaker 1>the session. I'm not saying necessarily punish them for being late.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably their parents, if the kids or somebody might

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<v Speaker 1>have let you know. If they're older. You just get

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<v Speaker 1>them quickly into the session though, because every second they're

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<v Speaker 1>missing they're not developing. And then you do something game

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<v Speaker 1>related to raise the pulse a drill or again. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after that, sorry, I've missed something out myself. Before

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<v Speaker 1>you get to that pulse raiser, you've had them in

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<v Speaker 1>a circle or a semicircle, and you've clearly outlined what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the session today, and you've clearly outlined your expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've clearly described what's coming. First, you then get

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<v Speaker 1>the players to shake hands or high five each other

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<v Speaker 1>before they start, and then you do that pulse raiser.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry I missed that out. I trust me, if

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the training field, I wouldn't miss that out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you've done your pulse rader, and depending if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a drill, you might do two minutes each side.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a game of some kind, you might play

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<v Speaker 1>for four to five minutes. Then you put them in

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic stretches. And in those dynamic stretches you have focused

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<v Speaker 1>heavily on how many repetitions they need to do to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they are stretched properly, and you also focus

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<v Speaker 1>on how to deliver the dynamics. I e. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing high knees, the technique needs to be perfect. If

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing bum flicks, the techniques need to be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>If we are doing karaoke, whatever the exercise may be,

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be done well and as close to

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<v Speaker 1>perfection as possible. And also when your players are moving

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<v Speaker 1>up and down doing their dynamics, they can work in

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<v Speaker 1>a line, which helps them practice line discipline, which helps

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<v Speaker 1>them in defense. That session, that start to the session

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<v Speaker 1>I've just described, it's very deliberate and it makes you

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<v Speaker 1>players realize that it's alike Donkey Kong today, coach isn't

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<v Speaker 1>messing about, and it sets your tongue for the session.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember how you start your session. If you don't start

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<v Speaker 1>it being deliberate in your coaching, your rest of your

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<v Speaker 1>session will suffer. If you're starting a session at six,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an affront that people don't turn up well in

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<v Speaker 1>advance of six to start the session. You should be

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<v Speaker 1>ready as a coach. Everything should be prepared. You should

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting for your players to arrive. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Rugby League Coach podcast with Lee Addison. In a

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<v Speaker 1>recent coach mentoring session, myself and the coach reviewed a

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<v Speaker 1>close loss and the coach immediately pointed to the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of fresh substitutes that he had. He's limited bench options,

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<v Speaker 1>he had players backing up from reserve grade. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an A grade coach. He still is an A grade coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not been zacked. And he also talked about injuries

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<v Speaker 1>in his team, so all legitimate issues. My first question

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<v Speaker 1>to him was can you control any of those? His

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<v Speaker 1>answer is basically no. Now, of course, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>how you prepare, etc. And everything else, Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>control if you're at a certain level, but at a grade,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably can't control those things, and you certainly can't

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<v Speaker 1>control them on game day. And if you can't control them,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't dominate your coaching detention. Too many coaches, as

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<v Speaker 1>this coach did until he had a chat with him,

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<v Speaker 1>worry about circumstances instead of behaviors. The focus should always

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<v Speaker 1>come back to what can we improve between now and

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<v Speaker 1>next weekend. In the same meeting, one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>chats I had with the coach was about interchange management,

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<v Speaker 1>and my philosophy is simple on that the only players

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<v Speaker 1>who should really get tired are your middles. Your props

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<v Speaker 1>may be a lock depending on how you want them

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<v Speaker 1>to play loose forward if you're in England or New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>But your spine players, you strike players, your decision makers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones you want on the field all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they? So your interchange should have cover for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to front rowers, coaches make the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake of pulling them off the field and hopes they

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<v Speaker 1>pulling them off, pulling them off the field the moment

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<v Speaker 1>they look tired for a millisecond. But I played prop

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<v Speaker 1>and most props know this. We often get a second win.

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<v Speaker 1>Props spend the first ten or fifteen minutes of any

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<v Speaker 1>game trying to physically dominate their opponent. Whatever your game

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<v Speaker 1>plan is. Even if your game plan is kick on

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<v Speaker 1>the first tackle and chase, your props will be thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about dominating their opposite numbers, dominating the opposite middle, and

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<v Speaker 1>so many coaches, just as they're starting to win that battle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a massive battle to win in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the prop's head, coaches take them off. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's a general rule of thumb to work to. If

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<v Speaker 1>your prop looks tired but he's still getting back into

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<v Speaker 1>the line and competing on everything, give him or her

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<v Speaker 1>another set, maybe even too. Don't rush the interchange. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference between being tired and being beaten. The worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing you can do to a proper who's gone really well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's had a great run, is take them off straight

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<v Speaker 1>after that, because a lot of the game in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle is about confidence and it's about getting one up

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<v Speaker 1>over your opponent. And remember, if you can see a

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<v Speaker 1>try or score a try, you also get a four

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<v Speaker 1>minute break on average, lots of time to get energy back.

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<v Speaker 1>A very big mistake coaches make is studying losses significantly

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<v Speaker 1>and wins just going oh yeah, we won and moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this tip when I read a book about

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<v Speaker 1>Clive Woodward, the old England rugby coach in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and four, so I was then a

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<v Speaker 1>water thank you Globally network, he argued that when you win,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to analyze that as much as you can,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you lose, you need to take what you

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a blip in the system. If you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose games as a coach, and this goes to

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<v Speaker 1>every coach out there who's winning right now. Your signs

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<v Speaker 1>usually appear that you're going to lose in your wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Most coaches obsess over losses. They watch them repeatedly, analyze

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<v Speaker 1>every mistake, tear them apart. But often the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>tell them the warning signs are there. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>fix this, you need to fix that, And the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason it's not coming up on the scoreboard in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous weeks is the opposition wasn't good enough to punish it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good teams that you play against exposed problems, but poor

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<v Speaker 1>why the focus on your wins is often just as valuable,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact more valuable, I'll be honest, than reviewing losses

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes because your errors will be in that winning game too. If,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, in a loss, you had a right edge

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<v Speaker 1>defender inside inside the wing, so a center who kept

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<v Speaker 1>jumping out the line and getting his or her read wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I can promise you that in those wins, he would

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<v Speaker 1>have started looking or she would have started looking to

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<v Speaker 1>do that anyway, and you'd tell by their hips even

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<v Speaker 1>though the ball never got there, if your completion rate

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<v Speaker 1>was low, even though you won some easier games, I

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<v Speaker 1>can promise you if you're dropping the ball against those teams,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very likely to drop the ball against better teams,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if it's collision related. And one of the dangers

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<v Speaker 1>about winning games of football and not analyzing them is

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<v Speaker 1>win a game is go forward. And in a tough game,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's no go forward or the goal, the go

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<v Speaker 1>forward and the and the contact line is equal, i e.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense and the and the attack is still really

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<v Speaker 1>competing for it. The whole dynamics of the game. For

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<v Speaker 1>the attack change, the space isn't as easy to see,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas if you're going forward, the space is obvious to

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<v Speaker 1>see because the defense is going backwards. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to really drill down into your into your

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<v Speaker 1>wins before the loss has come. And I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little model now for reviewing your games. How many

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<v Speaker 1>players do you think, sorry, how many players. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think can remember everything that's in your head right now

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<v Speaker 1>about your team? Bear in mind they've got the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>game to think about too. So I say to coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is how I work in my own coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can only change three things, what would there be?

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<v Speaker 1>And quite often, more often than not, it comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to holding the ball, It comes down to giving away

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<v Speaker 1>penalties and rock discipline. If you can get those three

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<v Speaker 1>things right, you go a very long way to winning

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<v Speaker 1>most games of football. And that's it, three things, not

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<v Speaker 1>twenty forty three. That's because winning games of football is

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<v Speaker 1>about subtraction, not addition. Quite frankly, you need to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the things that are going wrong before you

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<v Speaker 1>add another play or another shape, or another call or

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<v Speaker 1>another tactic. Great coaching is about identifying a few things

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<v Speaker 1>that matter most and relentlessly reinforcing them. And when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your penalties, they're often a symptom of the

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<v Speaker 1>way you're tackling. They're often a symptom of the way

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<v Speaker 1>you defense retreats and gets up again, and they're often

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<v Speaker 1>a symptom of how you're trying to control the resultant rook.

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<v Speaker 1>After you've done all those things, So if penalties are

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<v Speaker 1>a key issue, that's fair enough. But when you dig deeper,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the penalties or is it the way you're tackling,

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<v Speaker 1>the way you're losing the rock? Are the penalty is

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<v Speaker 1>the consequence? So when you're looking at your tapes and

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<v Speaker 1>when you're analyzing your team, don't just look at the symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very easy for us to go, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we've conceded that try on the right. Our defense read

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong. Let's sack the center and the wing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the symptom, that's the outcome. But if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>your rock, if you look at your tackle technique, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at your defensive split, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the way the players were retreating in the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at your line speed. Only if all

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<v Speaker 1>those things are right, including the fact that you might

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<v Speaker 1>be on your eighteenth tackle because you're giving away six

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<v Speaker 1>agains or penalties, if all those things are where you

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be, then yes, your right edge is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. And that's the difference. In good coaching, look

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<v Speaker 1>for the causes of your problems. Quite often a try

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<v Speaker 1>can become seeded because of what's happened in the previous

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<v Speaker 1>three or full sets, or earlier in that same set,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on that play. Drop Balls may be caused

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<v Speaker 1>by poor fatigue management. Penalties might be caused because you're

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<v Speaker 1>losing the rook or you're tackling poor in Mistackles might

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<v Speaker 1>be caused by poor spacing, or penalties could be because

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<v Speaker 1>of poor technique, tackling too high, poor footwork, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor attack could be caused by your poor set structure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I talked about earlier about not adding plays and shapes, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you should only add plays and shapes when you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the way you're constructing your set gives the players

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<v Speaker 1>the optimum position to exploit any space that they've got.

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<v Speaker 1>If the way you structured your set hasn't created the

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<v Speaker 1>space in the defensive line or outside the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>I suggest you need to structure your sets better. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I help coaches do because the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of times I watch footage with coaches and there's moments

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<v Speaker 1>where players are looking to do any tunnel ball or

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<v Speaker 1>a special shape and clever solutions, and quite frankly, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they just need to shift the ball on a play

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<v Speaker 1>earlier or two plays earlier. And what's happening is players

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<v Speaker 1>are creating spaces without even knowing they are, but not

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<v Speaker 1>looking for them, not recognizing them. They'll be overlaps, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be numbers, they'll be space, but players aren't scanning looking

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And if players simply looked up and identified

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<v Speaker 1>where the defense was vulnerable and had the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball there quickly, then the game would be

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a lot easier. Most teams rely entirely

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<v Speaker 1>on halves, don't they to identify space? But why? Centers

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<v Speaker 1>can see back, rollers can see space, Wingers can see space.

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<v Speaker 1>You fall back and see space. Everybody watching the game

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<v Speaker 1>can see space. Everybody should be scanning and looking for

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<v Speaker 1>that space. One of the best ways to coach it

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<v Speaker 1>in any oppose that you're doing any thirteen versus thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>even a small sided game, even a drill that's a

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<v Speaker 1>decision making drill, freeze it, stop it, and ask every

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<v Speaker 1>player wears the space. Every player, not just the halfback,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody the war. Players look up and only recognize opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>the better their communication about those opportunities becomes, and the

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<v Speaker 1>less they will rely on structure. Players love playing football.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard it called eyes up football. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>particular fan of that, but players love looking up and playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's enjoyable, it's creative, and it's the actual game. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was coaching your team, I can promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was coaching your team for the next three

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks, my entire message would fit on one whiteboard

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<v Speaker 1>and it would be something like hold the ball, look up,

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<v Speaker 1>kill the roock, reduce your penalties. And I'd mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>in every session, every review, every team talk every text

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<v Speaker 1>message if they were old enough for me to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>because players don't need more information, they need better habits.

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<v Speaker 1>And games are rarely won by the team with the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest playbook. They're usually won by the team that executes

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<v Speaker 1>the basics under pressure. And quite frankly, soon I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about origin and I'll be mentioning those things. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite section on this podcast is looking outside

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league to see what sports can teach us, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably too much. I talk about soccer football, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about a guy called Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Hughes because I think his story relates to everything in sport,

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, any sport. So therefore, rugby league coaches selectors

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<v Speaker 1>administrators should understand this. So this was back in the well.

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<v Speaker 1>It started in the sixties actually, but the seventies and

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<v Speaker 1>eighties Charles Hughes was in England's coaching director and became

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<v Speaker 1>very influential. He became the director of coaching for the

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<v Speaker 1>Football Association and wrote a book called The Winning Formula.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite significant title Magie Mind called thirteen Game Changing

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<v Speaker 1>Conversations to Transform Your Coaching. So I suppose they're both

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<v Speaker 1>quite bold. And the problem wasn't that Hughes didn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the evidence that he compiled in this book. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the problem that he believed in the wrong interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The data changed the way English football moved

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<v Speaker 1>forward in the seventies and the eighties, and for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, England haven't won a World Cup since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, despite having one of the biggest player

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<v Speaker 1>pools in the world. Hughes analyzed more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>football matches and noticed that a large percentage of goals

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<v Speaker 1>were scored following moves involving three passes or fewer. So

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<v Speaker 1>from that three passes or fewer he reached a conclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd looked at the symptom, not the cause. He decided

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<v Speaker 1>that if most goals come from a short number of passes,

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<v Speaker 1>teams should get the ball forward as quickly as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and that ended up with the English game focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>long balls, direct play focusing on territory and getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball into dangerous areas on repeat. And he also developed

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of POMO, which is positions of maximum opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>areas where goals were most commonly scored. And he kept

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if you keep delivering the ball into those areas,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually goals will come. And on the surface, it sounds logical,

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<v Speaker 1>it's evidence based, it's backed by stats, and it's measurable,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why so many brought into it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem was Hughes had confused correlation with causation. He confused

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome the symptom with the cause. Just because many

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<v Speaker 1>goals were scored after three passes didn't mean that three

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<v Speaker 1>passes was the best way to attack, which is how

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<v Speaker 1>he interpreted it. He was actually measuring the final phase

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<v Speaker 1>of a move or a period of play. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to do a long ball in football

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<v Speaker 1>in soccer, there needs to be spaced the defense needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be stretched because you've brought them up the field.

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<v Speaker 1>If you keep doing long balls, a defense will just

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and defend those long balls, so when you

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<v Speaker 1>knock them down they can clear them away. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about the three passes, it's about what happened before

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<v Speaker 1>the three passes. Perhaps has been thirty before the defense

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<v Speaker 1>was finally stretched, patient possession, building pressure. There's a big

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<v Speaker 1>difference with just focusing on three passes and then what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in England. For decades, English football embraced the philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>of three passes. Youth players were encouraged to play direct

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches valued territory. Possession was often viewed with suspicion. Creative

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<v Speaker 1>players weren't always prioritized time. The Dutch developed total football,

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<v Speaker 1>which was past past, past, past, past, move movement, movement,

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<v Speaker 1>move move moved. You may have heard of Pep Guardiola,

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<v Speaker 1>whose mentor came out of that system. The Germans evolved,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually England found itself lagging behind that it

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<v Speaker 1>once considered equals and to this day, as I record,

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<v Speaker 1>even after a great win in the first game, England

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<v Speaker 1>still haven't won a major tournament. What's the rugby league lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>In all this, how often do we hear statistics thrown

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<v Speaker 1>around as absolute truths. Most tries are scored on tackled

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<v Speaker 1>for most tries come from kicks. Most tries scored in

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone, the emphasis on the red zone. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you noticed how many teams can't score in the so

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<v Speaker 1>called red zone, which is good ball. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why for that. The defense are ready for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland the other day kept shifting on tackle four out

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<v Speaker 1>of their own area. If lorry Dale's new South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>team had any semblance of an idea, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>covered that easily because they kept shifting there on play four.

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<v Speaker 1>All the stats that you can power may be true,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't necessarily tell us what caused the outcome

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<v Speaker 1>that you're looking for. Imagine we discovered that seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of tries are scored within twenty meters of the opposition line.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be easy for you to think, get down there

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can do something. What the stats don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you is if all those tries came because somebody

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<v Speaker 1>made a break with an early shift and got tackled

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty meter zone, and then they scored on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of that doesn't The stats don't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>anything about field position, kick pressure, ruck dominance, possession control,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive fatigue, ball movement, doesn't say anything about the previous

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<v Speaker 1>ten sets, twenty sets, one hundred sets. So the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>challenge is always understanding the causes, not the symptoms, how

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<v Speaker 1>things are created. We've just had origin too, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this conversation about selections and styles of players really

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<v Speaker 1>relevant when you look at Queensland and New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to develop that thought with the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of this podcast. We often hear selectors talking about

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<v Speaker 1>picking players because of certain measurable outputs. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>run meters, line breaks, tackle, tackle busts, offloads, try assists. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers matter, but context matters a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. A player might have huge numbers because which

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<v Speaker 1>is playing in a dominant system. Look at the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between Nathan Cleary in the club game and in representative football.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a different player. I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a lone voice and if I want to get abused

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, I'll say something bad about Nathan Cleary.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Kent showed a little bit last week. He said

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<v Speaker 1>something similar, but he didn't go into deep detail. But

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<v Speaker 1>all the other media outlets are looking for somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>go with Nathan Cleary. Yeah, another player might have modest

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<v Speaker 1>numbers but makes everyone around them better. Statistics tells you

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, It doesn't always tell you why. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to look at when we're a coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lesson from the Charles Hughes thing isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>statistics are bad. Far from it. Coach, you should love

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Good organization. Good coaches should use evidence. The

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<v Speaker 1>lesson is that that evidence should start conversations, not end them.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you see a trend in your starts or in

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's happened, ask why, what's causing it? What are

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<v Speaker 1>we missing? What's the context? When you get it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be knocking your head against a brick wall

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your season. If there's anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>lives within decent distance of Yanko and Leton, so Mirandra, Griffith, etc. However,

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<v Speaker 1>however far you're willing to travel around there, So no,

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith isn't far away west? While along to more what

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<v Speaker 1>woggo woga. I could keep going on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 1>I am very aware that in the second week of

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<v Speaker 1>the coming school holidays in New South Wales there is

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<v Speaker 1>a coach session that I'm delivering at that club, Yanko

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<v Speaker 1>Wamun and the day after there will be a kid's

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<v Speaker 1>clinic that the lead coach will be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches I've mentored for the last four years and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be there to oversee you. If you are interested in that,

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<v Speaker 1>and also if you're interested in sending questions to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you can get me at Rugby League Coach on all

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<v Speaker 1>socials platforms apart from x which is at RL Coach

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<v Speaker 1>on the net. Message me on Instagram or Facebook please,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can email me admin at Rugby League Coach

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<v Speaker 1>dot com to take you. But if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>a seminar with me and or a clinic for kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you now, it will either be free

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<v Speaker 1>or you have to pay thirty dollars depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>you come from. The dates are Tuesday the fourteenth of

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<v Speaker 1>July and Wednesday the fifteenth of July. Okay, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested in that, please get in touch Rugby League

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<v Speaker 1>Coach on Socials admin at Rugby League Coach dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>To tell you is the email. Get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'll tell you all about it. What should

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<v Speaker 1>we go through? Next? State of origin? The Blues? Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I sit here, one win away from a state

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<v Speaker 1>of origin series, one win away from whining state of origin.

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<v Speaker 1>But somehow the mood around New South Wales and everything

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<v Speaker 1>associated with it is probably lower than I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>it apart from when he had lost eight on the bounce. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been around sport long enough to know that that

513
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<v Speaker 1>could do everything to galvanize the New South Wales team

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<v Speaker 1>bought after Queensland flogging New South Wales forty four twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four in Melbourne. Huge questions are being asked about Lourie Daily,

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<v Speaker 1>his coaching, the selections, the tactics and general leadership. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>from me, I'm asking those questions. The question I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask is to New South Wales under Laurie Daily,

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<v Speaker 1>but indeed under anybody know what they are? I think

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<v Speaker 1>they knew what they were under Michael Maguire for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for a couple of years under Brad Fitler

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<v Speaker 1>they were very convinced of who they were. Queensland throughout

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<v Speaker 1>all this time seemed to know clearly who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland are playing with freedom, instinct and confidence. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing about New South Wales, can you?

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<v Speaker 1>They're definitely caught between structure and instinct. Mitchell Moses selected

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<v Speaker 1>for Game two despite not playing for six weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's remember New South Wales won Game one and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thought Ethan Strange was excellent. Why was Moses pick? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Moses shouldn't have been picked, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying why was he? Genuinely the best option? Is Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>Cleary genuinely the best option? Or are we listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the news cycles? Are we going on? Reputation? Is New

534
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<v Speaker 1>South Wales trying to fit names into positions? I have

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh, by the way, all the social media trolls

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<v Speaker 1>who think I m Queenslander and then some accused me

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<v Speaker 1>of being a New South waleshman. Obviously it's hilarious. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never ever ever said a support as a team does

539
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<v Speaker 1>continuity of position not matter? In origin? And what message

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<v Speaker 1>did all this send to Eat and Strange. Queensland regularly

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<v Speaker 1>picked form and fit players and they're also very loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to certain players too, whereas New South Wales seemed to

543
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<v Speaker 1>pick the players everyone seems to want all along, don't they,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the newspapers. Why didn't you said Wales always want

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<v Speaker 1>to pick players with injuries. As soon as the game finished,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey John said we need Latroll Mitchell fit. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>obsection with that? The bench that wasn't used too that

548
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<v Speaker 1>was battling now spoke earlier about interchange props for Noah

549
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<v Speaker 1>Blake came on with about twelve minutes to go. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it apicorus? I'm not used at all? Even though New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales were offering nothing around the rock Rhyes Robson

552
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<v Speaker 1>played eighty minutes. New South Wales attack was really predictable.

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<v Speaker 1>Why carry happy if you're not going to use him?

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<v Speaker 1>What advantage does that second hooker provide if he never

555
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<v Speaker 1>leaves the bench? Was it poor planning before the game,

556
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<v Speaker 1>poor adaptation during the game, or a lack of smarts

557
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<v Speaker 1>about how to coach football? Again, selection is important, managing

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<v Speaker 1>management during the game is important. New South Wales again

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<v Speaker 1>looked all structured. In game one they were playing too

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<v Speaker 1>north South. In game two they played too much East West.

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales seemed obsessed with running the system, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland quite regularly played what was in front of them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in their own exit, Queensland shifted on tackle four. It

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<v Speaker 1>was easy to read, easy to read than a children's novel,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me. But because New South Wales didn't

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<v Speaker 1>read it, some Queensland player went down the left sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seventy meters. On the back of that play the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland played what was in front of them. The Maroons

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<v Speaker 1>adapted all the time. The Blues kept following scripts. New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales seemed to be coaching and doing too much

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<v Speaker 1>structure and playing too little. Laurie Daily it's uncomfortable discussion

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<v Speaker 1>because he's such a good blow. I have met him once.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very, very nice to talk to, and everybody

574
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<v Speaker 1>says he's one of the nicest blokes on earth. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's also one of the greatest origin players in history.

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<v Speaker 1>But if ever there's a lesson coaching and playing a

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<v Speaker 1>different jobs his overall coaching record in Origin. He's under

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<v Speaker 1>intense scrutiny now and we can't argue that New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales have improved under Lorrie Daily. We can't argue that

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<v Speaker 1>they're maximizing the talent available to them. Here's a question

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<v Speaker 1>if Billy Billi Slater and Lorrie Daly swap dressing rooms

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<v Speaker 1>before Game three, who would be favorites? Something that always

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<v Speaker 1>gets overlooked his culture. Queens and always appear to have

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<v Speaker 1>a very clear understanding of who and what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They know their story, know their purpose. What's New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales's story reminds me a little bit of England football,

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<v Speaker 1>like I keep referring to at the moment Will cups

588
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<v Speaker 1>on Sea and New South Wales too busy trying to

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<v Speaker 1>copy Queensland instead of creating their own identity or accepting

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<v Speaker 1>what their identity is. What does being a Blues player mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it a sustainable culture or are they still

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<v Speaker 1>working it out? But the good news for New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales and I'd be saying this if I was a player,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be saying this as a coach, that the series

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<v Speaker 1>has won all They're still alive. They can still win

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<v Speaker 1>the series, but a lot of it will depend on

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<v Speaker 1>what players are selected and how they are asked to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Ethan Strange return, does Nathan clear his stay at half?

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<v Speaker 1>You know Moses did fantastically when he was half and

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<v Speaker 1>he was injured in a New South Wales shirt. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, he played a game that I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Cleary play, none of us have seen in a

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales shirt. And the game plan definitely needs

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<v Speaker 1>to change, doesn't it. New South Wales don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>talent problem, don't have a depth problem, definitely don't have

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<v Speaker 1>an effort problem, but they definitely have a decision making

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<v Speaker 1>culture problem, and they definitely have a lot of problems

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<v Speaker 1>from leadership and direction. I'm going to play an historical

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<v Speaker 1>clip fear from socials about empowerment of a team. These

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<v Speaker 1>are in the times before he did a podcast, no

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<v Speaker 1>microphone or anything. Have a listened to this. I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>going to take on the question of ownership, empowerment. Spend

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<v Speaker 1>this turn that's come into business and work and sport

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<v Speaker 1>for about the last fifteen to twenty years. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was a young coach of twenty three year old, I

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<v Speaker 1>got an English student's side. I think I was the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest England anything coaching in anything ever and I was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by these players. Some of them went on to

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<v Speaker 1>play Super League and spent some time in Australia. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them, I'll be totally honest with you, I spent

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<v Speaker 1>all my time trying to justify to them that I

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<v Speaker 1>knew about football, and I flipped it right round and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up asking them more questions and getting them

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with answers, and I sort of suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>massaged it into a game plan without even realizing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I'd read the textbooks. I'd empowered those players by

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<v Speaker 1>getting them on board. And they all have fond memories

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But I did that because I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, I'm only twenty three. Are they're really going

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<v Speaker 1>to accept what I say as a coach? So I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose I was a little bit scared. Probably helped that

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<v Speaker 1>experience when it became more and more confident and I

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<v Speaker 1>became a little bit more I suppose autocratic. It helped, though,

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<v Speaker 1>to go from one Indie extreme to the other solo,

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<v Speaker 1>I could go back and find my level of empowerment. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if I'm coaching Poland as I have in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, or the Ipswich Diggers, the

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<v Speaker 1>men's representative team in the Ipswich town, I'm a very

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<v Speaker 1>different coach. And if I'm coaching at school, and bear

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, at school and the school programs that are

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<v Speaker 1>run you've got year seven who were twelve and seniors

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<v Speaker 1>are eighteen, and there's a different coaching style that applies

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<v Speaker 1>to them along the way. The older we get as people,

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<v Speaker 1>the more ideas we get as to how things should happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've always got to have a vi as a

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<v Speaker 1>coach to hear those opinions. But what you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be is a slave to those opinions. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always think that the best way to empower your players

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<v Speaker 1>is to say, listen, I've got some non negotiables and

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<v Speaker 1>nine non negotiables and things like punctuality, uniform. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't train, you don't play all that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you find a good team and a

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<v Speaker 1>good group of people who would disagree with those. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there's other things such as where you might empower

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<v Speaker 1>your players. So you might say, right, i've got these

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<v Speaker 1>three players in mind, you're comfortable with them, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call them? Might be an example, particply

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a repsite, because they might be a player

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<v Speaker 1>half back and says, oh, at my club they called this,

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<v Speaker 1>can we do this? Or they might be a cluster

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<v Speaker 1>of players from that club and they can call them

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<v Speaker 1>those names. You may have a chat with the senior

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<v Speaker 1>players and say, listen, we've got a meal tonight, grin camp,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you reckon meeting first and then meal or

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<v Speaker 1>meal and then meeting that kind of thing. You may

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<v Speaker 1>get a player or senior players in on your training

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<v Speaker 1>planning with the coaches at times, just so they can

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<v Speaker 1>hear what's going in. And then listen to your players

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<v Speaker 1>because you players, particularly if they're older, it might go coach,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need a little bit of this, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of this, and then what you can do

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<v Speaker 1>then is sort of explain why you're making the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>you're making and how that fits in. If you're an

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<v Speaker 1>inexperienced or not a very good coach. Let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>some people are. If you empower your players too much,

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<v Speaker 1>they will take away control. Do not underestimate players' ability

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<v Speaker 1>to control the team. So I know for a fact

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<v Speaker 1>the players sometimes go exactly against what their coach says

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't agree with the game plan. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they're in their clusters in the changing rooms, they say, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just do this, we'll just do this, We'll just

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and then when it works on the training field,

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<v Speaker 1>the coach owns it, and on the playing field he says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. That's what I want you to do. When

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work, the coach hammers. You know, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that a thousand times. So it's always good to get

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<v Speaker 1>you players involved in the process. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>answering the ownership and the empowerment question, I've seen people

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<v Speaker 1>take it to the end degree and go the other

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<v Speaker 1>way and give it all to the players. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>for me is a complete and utter recipe or disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a saying the tail count like the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>And even in this new society that we're in, players

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<v Speaker 1>still like boundaries. People like boundaries. Put your boundaries in

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<v Speaker 1>and say these are man non negotiables or not willing

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<v Speaker 1>to budge from these. Don't put too many in and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find the players tend to light them anyway, particularly males.

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<v Speaker 1>We love our boundaries. We love being put in a box.

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<v Speaker 1>But have your freedom within that box. Okay, have a

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. If you're any questions, send it through.

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<v Speaker 1>But to answer the ownership question, I'm all for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't go dunk hole and give them loads of control,

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<v Speaker 1>or else you'll have not. Hope you got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>from that. I'm currently got an end of financial year

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<v Speaker 1>So get in touch with me and I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have plenty that I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm looking at my running sheet and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it will sound even better if I leave this what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to say for a week or two, or

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<v Speaker 1>was about to say for a week or two. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know what I'm hinting at there, because a

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