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All Right, So Bill Malugin, reporter for Fox News, 10 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:44,479 with the following tweet, CBS News looked into ice Boston claims, 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,520 So this is immigration Customs Enforcement, the Boston field office 12 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:52,759 that had claimed that illegal aliens had been charged with 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,320 child rape in Massachusetts and that they have been repeatedly 14 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:05,439 released from jail with ridiculously low bales. And so c 15 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:09,840 BS News takes a look at this claim. They're gonna 16 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:13,840 go fact check it. And so what did CBS News 17 00:01:13,879 --> 00:01:20,120 find that actually, yes, that is happening. That is exactly 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,400 what is happening in Boston. For example, a Guatemalan man 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,120 charged with three counts of aggravated child rape released on 20 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:31,079 seventy five hundred dollars bail, and they ignored the ICE 21 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:36,840 detainer request. A Guatemalan charged with aggravated child rape victim 22 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:40,200 aged nine or below, released on seventy five hundred dollars bail. 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:50,359 ICE detainer ignored. A Honduran national charged with assault rape 24 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,920 and masked armed robbery released on his own recognizance with 25 00:01:55,359 --> 00:02:00,840 zero dollars bail. ICE detainer ignored. Worcester County had two 26 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,120 illegal inmates. Alien inmates charged with child rape they got 27 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:11,039 five hundred dollars bails. Another charged with fentanyel trafficking released 28 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:15,000 on four thousand dollars bond before ICE could even arrive 29 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:21,879 to get him. Malujin also then quotes Tom Holman, who 30 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,240 announced a massive ICE operation in Boston and the surrounding 31 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,840 areas that yielded three hundred seventy arrests of illegal aliens, 32 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:36,879 a majority of whom were criminals, including murderers, drug traffickers, 33 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,000 and child sexual predators. Holman said, quote Governor Healey and 34 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,479 Mayor Wu of Boston should be ashamed of supporting sanctuary policies. 35 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Releasing public safety threats back into the public rather than 36 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,599 working with ICE at the jails puts the public at 37 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:02,479 greater risk. Again, this is not new for these types 38 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:08,000 of sanctuary Democrat elected officials. They have been doing this 39 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:17,000 for a decade at least. In fact, if I go 40 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,400 back to a story also from twenty nineteen, this appeared 41 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:26,039 at WCNC television. This was on their website with the 42 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:32,000 headline our sheriffs required to hold undocumented immigrants for ICE. 43 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,599 And in this story again from now six years ago, 44 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,479 here's what Gary McFadden, Mecklenburg County Sheriff, Gary not my 45 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,479 fault McFadden. Here's what he said. Quote. This was a 46 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,439 year after he had won election. Okay, so not even 47 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:50,960 a year. Actually, he had won in November of twenty eighteen, 48 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,159 and now this is an article in August of twenty nineteen, 49 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:57,840 so he's only been in the office for like nine months. 50 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,520 And here's what he said in a statement. Quote, I 51 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,599 was elected with a clear mandate to stop honoring voluntary 52 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:15,080 ice detainers and to end the two eighty seven g program. 53 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,480 He has made his position very clear. This is not 54 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:29,319 going to stop unless somebody makes him. The state legislature 55 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:32,279 is trying, and I suspect I have no information about this. 56 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:37,240 I'm just speculating wildly into irresponsibly here. But I suspect 57 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,279 the local Democrats who could actually hold him accountable, are 58 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:50,439 hoping that the legislature does something to make him follow 59 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,079 the law, to make him honor the request to take 60 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,279 this issue off the front page. I think that's the play, 61 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,560 because nobody is talking about this. None of these elected 62 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Democrats are ever asked about this. They never come out 63 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,120 and say this stuff. They never weigh in on whether 64 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:13,199 Gary McFadden is fit for the role. As to their credit, 65 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,040 the Charlotte Observer editorial board has even done. Even the 66 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,040 Observer editorial staff understands what this guy is doing in 67 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,480 so many different facets of the gig. I'm sure they 68 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:29,639 agree with him actually on the immigration non cooperation, I 69 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,800 have no doubt about that. But I think their concerns 70 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,639 are more about the maladministration of the jail and his 71 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,680 terrible leadership, if you can even call it that. Of 72 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,000 the staff. You're seeing lots of turnover, and you know, 73 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,079 lawsuits and stuff, and the way he treats employees and 74 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,519 yelling and screaming at people, using racial slurs against them. 75 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,279 So like they have all of these other as do I, 76 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:01,879 by the way, I share those concerns too. I don't 77 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,040 think the observer if he didn't have any of the 78 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,399 maladministration stuff going on, I think they would be perfectly 79 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:13,879 fine to keep endorsing him if it was just the 80 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:21,000 immigration problem. But there are many different facets of this 81 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:28,560 guy's tenure that warrant a review, if not the bringing 82 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,920 up on the charge of maladministration, because that's the Let 83 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,319 me see here, I have it here, someplace in this stack. 84 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Where is it in the stack of stuff? 85 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:39,879 Speaker 2: Here? 86 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:49,399 Speaker 1: It is state law on sixteen. Any sheriff or police 87 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,079 officer shall be removed from office by the judge of 88 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,639 the Superior Court for the following causes. You have to 89 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:02,920 have charges in writing for the following causes. Number one 90 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:07,160 wilful or habitual neglect or refusal to perform the duties 91 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:16,160 of his office. Number two wilful misconduct or maladministration in office. 92 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:19,839 And my opinion is that gary not my fault. McFadden 93 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:25,560 checks that box. Corruption, extortion, conviction of a felony or 94 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,800 intoxication are the other reasons to remove. You can also 95 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:37,040 in one eight seventeen the complaint or petition shall be ent, 96 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:43,279 so you can file a petition a complaint in the 97 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:45,160 name of the state of North Carolina, and may be 98 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:49,920 filed upon the relation of any five qualified electors. Those 99 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,240 are voters of the county in which the person charged 100 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:56,839 as an officer upon the approval of the County Attorney 101 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,000 of such county, or the district attorney of the district, 102 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,560 or by any such officer upon his own motion, so 103 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,920 he could do it to himself. So the county, the 104 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,399 Mecklenberg County Attorney, or the district attorney, or the judge 105 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:17,040 of the Superior court all have the ability to do 106 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,800 something about this, and they won't. That's Democrat privilege, by 107 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,079 the way. I think at this point we are relying 108 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,920 on the state legislature to do something about this out 109 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,200 of control sheriff here. All right, if you're listening to 110 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,759 this show, you know I try to keep up with 111 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:37,919 all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, 112 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,519 And you've probably heard me say get your news from 113 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,759 multiple sources. 114 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: Why. 115 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 116 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:48,679 why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an 117 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,159 app and it's a website, and it combines news from 118 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,399 around the world in one place, so you can compare 119 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,519 coverage and verify information. You could check it out at 120 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:02,000 check dot ground, dot news news slash Pete. I put 121 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,960 the link in the podcast description too. 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Hello, Kirk, 133 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:41,639 welcome to the show. 134 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,799 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Pete. 135 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: How you doing, Hey, I'm well what's going on? 136 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Something that comes to mind was this supposed sheriff because 137 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,879 I'm being pleasant saying that, what about charging him with 138 00:09:58,919 --> 00:09:59,840 aiding and a betting? 139 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:03,159 Speaker 1: I have heard people suggest this. I am you know, 140 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,000 I'm not a I'm not a lawyer. I mean I 141 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,200 have been watching a lot of Lincoln Lawyer and stuff, 142 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,279 but I don't. I'm not. I don't know whether you 143 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:17,600 whether he would have some sort of immunity. You know 144 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,480 that some that exists for some government officials. So I 145 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:23,399 don't know, but I have heard, like I've got a 146 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:27,879 message from Kevin who asks the same thing. Harboring makes 147 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:30,600 it an offense for any person who knowing or in 148 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:33,720 reckless disregard to the fact that an alien has come to, entered, 149 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:35,840 or remains in the US, and violation of the law 150 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,000 conceals harbors or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, 151 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,200 harbor or shield from detection such alien in any place, 152 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,039 including any building or any means of transportation. So it 153 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,279 seems like he could be charged with harboring. 154 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: And it's one of those where until we put our 155 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,159 foot down and actually start holding people accountable, this is 156 00:10:59,200 --> 00:10:59,960 going to continue. 157 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and this is what Neil Howe talked about 158 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:10,159 in the Fourth Turning when in the Final Turning, the 159 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:14,480 when you have when you're in the crisis phase and 160 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,600 they predicted you know, these four events back in nineteen 161 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:19,720 ninety seven, and all four of them came to pass. 162 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:22,799 And the final one is nullification. And we have seen 163 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,759 this kind of activity on different things, like most recently 164 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:29,919 with the immigration stuff and the Joe Biden regime, right 165 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,559 where he refused to enforce immigration law and states were 166 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,960 demanding that he do so they tried to do enforcement 167 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,679 activities in Texas along the river and then they, you know, 168 00:11:40,759 --> 00:11:43,879 the federal government sued in order to get Texas to 169 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,360 stop enforcing law. Right when you have when you have 170 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,600 this this kind of stuff happening, it is it is 171 00:11:50,639 --> 00:11:54,679 a nullification attempt, and that's what McFadden is doing. And 172 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,799 so what happens is the the Feds versus the local 173 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,159 they batch it up against one another and then they 174 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:06,200 can't back down, and then you end up in this 175 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,480 brinksmanship mode right where they keep you know, the Feds 176 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,279 keep asserting control and dominance and you have to do this, 177 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,080 and then the locals are like no, and whether that's 178 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,120 the local or the state whatever, And that's that's how 179 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,600 these things then rise to the crisis level. And I 180 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:26,000 suspect that's where we're headed. 181 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: True. The other thing I look at is, and you 182 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:34,720 know that I'm real big about hitting people in the wallet. 183 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,440 If you have a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state 184 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 and they start losing funding I promise you, you've got 185 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,759 their attention. 186 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,159 Speaker 1: Right, And so the state lawmakers have been trying to 187 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:51,240 rein in McFadden, but he keeps using these loopholes, and 188 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:55,080 it's all based on the fact that the illegal immigration 189 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,200 stuff is civil, it's administrative, and so he keeps relying 190 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,480 on that. I don't know a way that the state 191 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:06,440 legislature is going to actually be able to make it 192 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:08,720 anything other than what it is at the federal level. 193 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,799 So they're I mean, they're they're trying now to force 194 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:15,679 him to comply with the detainer requests because that's what 195 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,240 he's refusing to do. And if they can pass a 196 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,000 law and they can make him do so, then maybe 197 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:27,720 that solves this issue. But otherwise, I don't know. I 198 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:30,679 don't know how you get him to comply. When he refuses, 199 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,120 you got to vote him out. And I don't know 200 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,960 if the Democrats are interested in doing so, because it's 201 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,480 such a big part of their Democrat base pro illegal immigration, and. 202 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure if there's enough there where 203 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,360 you could just walk in and arrest him. I promise you, 204 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,639 if he going to go somewhere he's at handcuffs, he 205 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:55,639 will be embarrassed to no end from it. I don't think. 206 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he I don't think he knows. I 207 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,320 don't think he is psychologically built to be embarrassed. I 208 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,120 really don't. I don't think he has that chip. 209 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:11,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, the way that you've described him, I don't 210 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:12,679 think he does either. 211 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he'll just be a martyr. He's the victim, right, 212 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,679 I'm the hero and the victim. He's never the villain. 213 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,480 And he will reverse the victim and offender. And so 214 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:25,159 he's the one that's being harmed and he's just trying 215 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:27,000 to look out for the people and all of this, 216 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,120 and so he'll just do that same thing. I have 217 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,120 no doubt about that. I don't think he's capable of 218 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:37,000 being embarrassed. But it will stop him, Like if you, like, 219 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,639 if you charge him with harboring or obstruction or something 220 00:14:40,679 --> 00:14:43,200 like that, you throw, like you go after him criminally, 221 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:46,919 then I mean it will stop him at least temporarily 222 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,840 from engaging in this kind of behavior at least, So, Kirk, 223 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,559 I appreciate the call, buddy, Thank ye sir, you too, 224 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,600 Mark says. Law enforcement agencies small to large used to 225 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,519 follow the law and the constitution not well, I don't 226 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:06,759 know about all cases. They have been known, certain people 227 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:09,919 and agencies have been known to bend the law and constitution. 228 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,679 Right now, they just follow political ideologies. When does law 229 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 become the primary decider and motivator for all of law 230 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,279 enforcement again or will it? Well, so, Mark, I agree 231 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,600 with the sentiment that's the goal, right, that's what we 232 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:29,320 should be striving for. But you never get there. You'll 233 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,919 never get because that's that would be perfection. And these 234 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:36,480 are all man made constructs, and these are all human 235 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,799 beings that are you know, working inside of these systems, 236 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,399 and so you're always going to have corruption, You're always 237 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:46,919 going to have people bending the rules, you know, to 238 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,559 get what they want. So perfection is never one of 239 00:15:49,639 --> 00:15:52,440 your utopia, is not one of the options available to us. 240 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:57,159 Now that being said, it should be the goal, right, 241 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,200 that should be the thing that we strive for, the 242 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:07,000 thing that we seek to attain. And McFadden dresses up 243 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:10,919 his non cooperation and his opposition to these laws, he 244 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:18,840 dresses them up as some sort of constitutionally supported philosophical position. 245 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,240 But as I went over earlier, the constitutional experts say 246 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:30,399 he's not correct, and he's not a constitutional expert. This 247 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,159 was a political position he adopted in order to run 248 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,200 and win in the race for sheriff. 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Okay, it's a pete 279 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,759 tweet from old guy get off my lawn, who says, 280 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,559 while it is frustrating, nicely done. While it is frustrating 281 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,440 to hear about Gary, not my fault, McFadden's nonsense. If 282 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,039 we look on the bright side, it is refreshing. An 283 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:41,680 elected leader is living up to their campaign promises. That's 284 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:45,039 it's a very rare thing. His constituents are getting exactly 285 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:48,240 what they voted for. Right, he promised not to cooperate 286 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:53,720 with ICE, and so he's not, so he is doing 287 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,759 exactly what he campaigned on. But he's also mad that 288 00:18:56,839 --> 00:18:59,440 people are saying he's not cooperating with ICE, as if 289 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,920 he is. He's I'm totally cooperating with ICE, even though 290 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,039 you're not, and you said you wouldn't and you immediately 291 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:13,440 stopped cooperating when you got elected. Anyway, Bain, Welcome to 292 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:13,839 the program. 293 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: Hello Bane, Hey, Pete, Hey, I saw the podcast on 294 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,119 the fourth turning nullification phase. This is it? 295 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:24,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it. 296 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: Listen, can a private individual or a company create a 297 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:32,160 jail that ICE could use or does that have to 298 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,359 go through the sheriff's department? 299 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you are, you talking about detaining 300 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:44,720 illegal aliens, right, So you're right. So the the issue 301 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:47,920 is that they are arrested for you know, an illegal 302 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,759 alien breaks a law and gets themselves arrested. That's how 303 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:55,440 they ended up at the jail. And that would not 304 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:58,440 be you couldn't do like, you couldn't do a private 305 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,519 jail unless you then create like a structure for private 306 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,960 jails and that sort of thing. 307 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So Ice did not arrest these people. 308 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Correct, Charlotte Mecklenberg police did, or one of the towns did, 309 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,359 or something like they got popped for duy, domestic violence 310 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:22,319 or something. They did something and got arrested, and when 311 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,480 brought to the jail, they were then identified as somebody 312 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,559 who may not be in the country legally. Once that happened, 313 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,519 that the sheriff now is required to inform Ice because 314 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:35,839 Gary wasn't doing that originally either. They wouldn't even tell 315 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,920 Ice about who was in the jail and that sort 316 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,960 of thing, and so now they have to tell Ice 317 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,319 that we got these guys. And so then ICE says, hey, 318 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,240 you got this guy in your jail. They're a criminal, 319 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,319 but they're also an illegal alien. They got these you know, 320 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,079 criminal charges against them, but they can bail out under 321 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:56,920 the normal criminal process. So we're asking you to hold them, 322 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,200 give us forty eight hours, and we will come at 323 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,440 them before you let them go, and give us a 324 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,400 call when when they've bailed out. Let us know when 325 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,079 they've bailed out. And McFadden doesn't do that. He does 326 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,279 not want to make the phone call to tell Ice 327 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,160 that these guys are getting out, I. 328 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:19,519 Speaker 3: Didn't understand the sequence. So that was good that you 329 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:23,319 explained that. That's real good. Would it be of any 330 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,880 value to have an ICE agent really close by the jail? 331 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this has been a problem for ICE for 332 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,279 decades that they haven't had, like they didn't have an 333 00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:38,440 immigration court in Charlotte. I think we do now. But 334 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:40,839 this has always been a problem because as in this 335 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,799 when you open up the borders, right and you allow 336 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,039 the in migration of millions of people through asylum processes 337 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:53,279 and all that, you overwhelm the system. And so they're 338 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:57,880 trying now to do enforcement actions on millions of people. 339 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,039 That's why they're choosing the criminals first. They're targeting the 340 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,279 worst people first, right, And that's so it's a lack 341 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:09,880 of resources that they've got to staff somebody at the 342 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,559 jail all the time. And that was the whole point 343 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,160 of the two eighty seven G program. It was to 344 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:21,400 essentially deputize the deputies as immigration enforcement and so they 345 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,759 could get access to the databases, they could run people's 346 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,359 names through this stuff, and then they could act on 347 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,559 behalf of ICE. That was the whole point of creating 348 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:33,839 the two eity seven G program At the federal level, 349 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:37,119 which we then implemented under Sheriff Jim Pendograph. We kept 350 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,920 it through Chip Bailey, through Irwin Carmichael, and it was 351 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,279 only McFadden who came in and scrapped the two eity 352 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:48,319 seven G program. So and so, yeah, you're they're blinding 353 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,400 themselves to who's in the jail. They don't want to know, 354 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,279 and they don't want to participate in any kind of 355 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,400 immigration enforcement effort in the local jail. 356 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: It's sad, but it makes you one who's going to 357 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,440 have to die or whose child's going to have to 358 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,079 be abducted for something to change. 359 00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, and as I understand, I'm trying to remember which 360 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,319 bill it was because there's been a bunch of them, 361 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,079 but I think it's the House Bill three sixteen that 362 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:21,640 would allow for lawsuits against these public officials and jurisdictions 363 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,720 if illegal alien criminals are released and then go and 364 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:29,519 victimize people. I think they are allowed you, victims, families 365 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:33,920 and victims are allowed to sue these officials under this legislation. 366 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,599 Speaker 3: Wow, wow, Well, thank you for laying them. 367 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the call. Bane. Yeah, I think it was. 368 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,799 I'd have to go back and read it. It's been 369 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,599 a couple of weeks since I've read through it, but 370 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,960 I think that's that was part of one of the bills, 371 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,240 because there's a Senate bill in Raleigh. There's a House 372 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:57,960 bill in Raleigh. Yeah, like until until people start paying 373 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,839 a personal price for their policies, for their politics like this, 374 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:09,400 I don't know how it changes. McFadden put out a 375 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,160 statement I mentioned this last hour. The top one third 376 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:17,039 of this press release is like a glamour shot of him. 377 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,119 I've never seen anything like it, local law enforcement, you know, 378 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,279 putting his big picture up on this press release. This 379 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:32,559 statement where he attacks the ICE Atlanta chief of staff, 380 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,640 the Atlanta office chief of staff, who did an interview 381 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,720 apparently with the local news outlet. He says, listen to this. 382 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,079 Despite my repeated attempts to foster cooperation, see he's the victim. 383 00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:51,200 ICE has yet to engage in any meaningful dialogue with 384 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,920 me or other local sheriffs who are facing similar circumstances. 385 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,920 I have emailed and called the ICE ro Atlanta office. 386 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,400 No Atlantic office, it's Atlanta, which might be the problem. Actually, 387 00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:07,920 now I think about it, maybe you're calling the wrong office. 388 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,880 There's an Atlanta office anyway. He says he has called 389 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,880 multiple times asking the agency to provide the names of 390 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,519 their most recent arrests in Charlotte and to clarify their 391 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:31,720 intentions regarding undocumented individuals in our custody. They don't have 392 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,079 to tell you that, dude, what are you talking about? 393 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,599 What are you talking about? First off, the people that 394 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,519 they have arrested, that they picked back up after you 395 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,759 let out, you already have their names. They don't report 396 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:51,519 to you, Gary, ICE does not report to you. Oh, 397 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,000 give me those names. And then what are your intentions 398 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,599 with them? Their intention is to deport them, Gary, They're 399 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,440 looking to get them out of the country. That's the 400 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,839 intention of going out and picking these people up with 401 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,599 criminal records that are in the country illegally. They're going 402 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,359 to deport them. That's the intention. I don't know why 403 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,400 you need a list of names for any of this. Also, 404 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:19,960 far be it for me to assume the level of 405 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,119 trust that ICE might have with you. But I'm going 406 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,519 to go out on a limb and say it sucks. 407 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:29,119 They don't trust you at all. Why would they give 408 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,599 you names of people? Why would they give you names 409 00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,759 of people when then you could turn around and put 410 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,799 out another glamour shot press release with those names, to 411 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480 let everybody know, to let these people know that Ice 412 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,319 is looking for them, which they probably already do know. 413 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,480 But they don't trust you, Gary. 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I sent an email to 456 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:23,480 ICE's Atlanta field office regarding the financial burden the detainer's 457 00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:27,720 place on taxpayers and the importance of informing the sheriff's 458 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,880 office of their true intentions on whether they are going 459 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,400 to pick up these undocumented immigrants or seek federal criminal charges. 460 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,799 For every person that we are holding is three hundred 461 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,839 and ninety eight dollars to the taxpayers of Mecklenburg County 462 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,480 estimate as of December first, sixty eight thousand dollars in 463 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:50,920 taxpayer money. He said. Oh, and then there's a quote 464 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,720 in the same article from Hector Vaka, Immigrant Justice director 465 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,519 at Action and Seed it's a leftist organization, who said, quote, 466 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,119 being in this country is non act a criminal offense. 467 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:05,279 Being undocumented in the country is an administrative offense. Right, 468 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,480 That's the philosophy that McFadden is operating under. And so 469 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,279 now he's citing the cost. So I don't want to 470 00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,839 honor these detainers because you say, hey, hold them for 471 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,720 forty eight hours. Now I have to incur the cost 472 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:27,000 of keeping this resident, don't call them inmates, this resident 473 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:31,119 at the jail, and now that's costing the taxpayers money. 474 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,079 So he just wants to So he's it's budgetary, don't 475 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,039 you see. It's a budgetary thing. And so when he's 476 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,480 talking about reaching out to the Atlanta Field office to 477 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:46,920 try to have a dialogue about improving cooperation, what he's 478 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,480 talking about is pay me money. Give me money. That's 479 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,599 what he's demanding. Give me money, because he's saying that 480 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,839 ICE is asking him to hold the these people, but 481 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,880 they're not paying for the bed space. And by the way, 482 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240 I have heard this about the two eighty seven G program, 483 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,160 which was why some sheriff's offices got rid of it, 484 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,519 not for ideological purposes, but because they were incurring the 485 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,839 cost when it initially started two eighty seven G. If 486 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,400 you signed up, you got paid, the jails got paid 487 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:27,640 for housing the illegal aliens until ICE could deport them. 488 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,240 And then somewhere along the line that part went away. 489 00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:36,400 But McFadden has been opposed to twoity seven G because 490 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,759 he doesn't want people being deported because he doesn't think 491 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,880 that's how you addressed the illegal immigration problem. He has 492 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,759 said this in multiple interviews and newscasts or news articles 493 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,400 and in press statements. So I don't believe him. I 494 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,359 don't believe that he's operating in good faith on these arguments. 495 00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:02,480 He's not actually trying to solve the problem. He's trying 496 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:08,039 to not enforce immigration law in our state, in our county. 497 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:14,680 Paul says, Pete can ICE not utilize AI technology to 498 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,839 scan every town's arrest records to proactively pick up the 499 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,440 criminals to circumvent sheriffs refusing to pick up the phone. 500 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,920 So ICE has to know. ICE is a federal agency. 501 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,920 They have to know when somebody is getting bailed out. 502 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,240 And that is a state issue, right because these people 503 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,759 are arrested on state criminal charges. They're not picked up 504 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:41,640 by the Feds. They're picked up by Charlie Maclurg police 505 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:47,359 or something. And that's why the ICE needs the cooperation 506 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:52,440 from the state level law enforcement because the courts they're 507 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,319 running through their normal criminal process and so if somebody 508 00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,079 comes up with the bail money, they can bail out 509 00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:01,599 and then they walk out the and that's why ICE 510 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,480 is saying, Hey, first, let us know if you encounter 511 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:08,799 somebody who is illegal in your jail, and then we 512 00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,279 can run their names through find out if there is 513 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:14,480 a reason to deport them for you know, violent offenses 514 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,160 and such, and then we're going to put a detainer 515 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,079 request on them and we're asking you to hold on 516 00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:23,599 to them. And then if they bail out, please let 517 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,599 us know that they're bailing out so we can come 518 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,480 get them. And at that point it's out of the 519 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,799 sheriff's hands. It should be right. If ICE doesn't come 520 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,160 and get them, then ICE let them go. But the 521 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,440 sheriff isn't even calling, so why would you not call? See, 522 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720 this is the thing, like you can have this separate 523 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:46,279 issue of the funding component. That's fine, but are you 524 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,359 trying are you leveraging the phone call the lack of 525 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,720 phone call in order to extract the money, because all 526 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,839 you're doing is putting members of the community at risk. Again, 527 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200 these are criminals. These are people who have been charged 528 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,119 with violent face and in some cases have rap sheets 529 00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:12,320 to let me see how, says Pete, I am one 530 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:20,000 hundred percent with you, But here is why he can 531 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,519 keep from a lawsuit. 532 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:22,679 Speaker 2: Right. 533 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,079 Speaker 1: Qualified immunity is a legal rule that protects government workers 534 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,920 like police from being sued personally for violating constitutional rights. 535 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,199 This rule is in place to ensure officials can do 536 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,639 their jobs without fear of lawsuits. It balances right, So 537 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,400 the qualified immunity. And this is a debate that usually 538 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,960 focuses around like police shootings and stuff. This usually comes 539 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,400 up the qualified immunity, which also I would argue then 540 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,599 that protects them, That protects Sheriff McFadden from any kind 541 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:02,000 of litigation if he's cooperating with Ice. Like just the 542 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,239 arguments he has been making do not hold water. They 543 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,719 are not being made in good faith. He's just it's 544 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,320 it's sort of like a it's a it's a spaghetti test, right, 545 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,400 You're just throwing it all up on the wall and 546 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,719 see how much of it sticks. That's it. He's just 547 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,400 throwing every argument boom boom boom, all these different arguments 548 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,480 up there, and hopefully one of them will convince you. 549 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:33,320 Seth says Pete. How long until not my fault McFadden 550 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,840 is responsible for a murder like Lake and Riley from 551 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,719 letting out one of these rapists or murderers. Will it 552 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,880 be his fault, then no, seth, it will never be 553 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:52,119 his fault because it's never his fault. He's not my fault. McFadden. 554 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,719 Remember this is the guy who when he retired out 555 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,400 of the Charlotte Meckelburg Police Department to go be sheriff, 556 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,639 they found a whole bunch of stuff from his homicide 557 00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,039 cases at his desk, Like he had like mementos and 558 00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,360 stuff from these homicide cases. That wasn't his fault. Either 559 00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:14,199 he had permission to hold onto them from the family 560 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:20,320 members or something like. So. I don't know if Ice 561 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960 can arrest him. I don't know if the federal government 562 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,280 can try and drop the hammer on him. But if 563 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,199 the state can't do it and the Feds can't do it, 564 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,639 and nobody locally will do it, then we're just going 565 00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:38,000 to keep getting more of the same here, all right. 566 00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:40,400 That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 567 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,480 for listening. I could not do the show without your 568 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,280 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 569 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,119 the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too 570 00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:49,840 and tell them you heard it here. 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