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Speaker 2: I bring on tonight's guest, I just wanted to let
Speaker 2: you know that I'm gonna hear a special Saturday night
Speaker 2: live stream episode of the show tomorrow night, gonna bring
Speaker 2: Cam back on. Cam reached out to me, I guess
Speaker 2: what two weeks ago or so, maybe three, to let
Speaker 2: me know about all the updates he had for me.
Speaker 2: A lot has happened since we spoke last and yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna come on tomorrow night to bring you all
Speaker 2: up to speed on everything that he's been through. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been through a lot, to say the least. So Yeah,
Speaker 2: Mark calllendars, don't forget tomorrow night, nine pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2: He'll be back to do that. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: thanks as always for listening. But for tonight's show, tonight's
Speaker 2: guest Todd Tidwell, he's going to talk about some experiences
Speaker 2: he had as a kid. Most of his experiences weren't
Speaker 2: with dog men worth a dog man, I should say,
Speaker 2: most of them were with a sasquatch or with sasquatch plural.
Speaker 2: I should say, maybe it was a good thing that
Speaker 2: he had those sasquatch encounters before he had his dog
Speaker 2: made an encounter. But instead of putting words into us mouth,
Speaker 2: let's bring him in here and find out. Todd, thanks
Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Hi, Well, we really appreciate
Speaker 2: you coming on and spending the night with us. We
Speaker 2: really do. Todd, please give us a brief file on yourself.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I grew up in East Sacramento County, California, about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes from the Gold Country. That's the Foothills. I
Speaker 1: was in the Lower Basin, growing up in the San
Speaker 1: Juaquin Valley. I have a twin brother and two older sisters,
Speaker 1: and a mom and dad and we grew up on
Speaker 1: about thirteen acres. The property's adjacent to us were larger
Speaker 1: fifty acres.
Speaker 3: Or more, and it was it was a good life.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like it was a good life.
Speaker 2: Would you say that your crypted encounters tainted your childhood
Speaker 2: at least to a certain degree, or would you say
Speaker 2: that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had pretty much repressed the events
Speaker 1: that had happened until I was in my late twenties,
Speaker 1: and then once in a while I remember some of
Speaker 1: the instances that happened, and then they would get stored
Speaker 1: away back in the back of my brain somewhere. And
Speaker 1: it's only now that I'm older, I'm much older, that
Speaker 1: they're on my mind always.
Speaker 2: Well, I can understand why they would be. The reason
Speaker 2: why I asked you. That is, for most people, when
Speaker 2: they're asked what the worst thing they had to go
Speaker 2: through and deal with as a kid was, most of
Speaker 2: the I will tell you losing a parent, or for
Speaker 2: some it was having a bike stolen or something simple
Speaker 2: like that. Of course, losing appearance not in that category,
Speaker 2: but having a bike stolen that's pretty lightweight compared to
Speaker 2: other things that could happen. When you're a kid. But
Speaker 2: for you, if someone asked you that question, you could
Speaker 2: tell them that you were a chased home in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night by a dog man in the
Speaker 2: wee hours on a lonely road. I mean, that is
Speaker 2: just something that no kid should ever have to deal with.
Speaker 2: That's horrible, it really is. So that's why I was
Speaker 2: asking if you you think your encounters tainted your childhood
Speaker 2: at least to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a certain degree. I didn't that, but you know,
Speaker 1: I you know, I got through. I got through it
Speaker 1: and pretty much unscathed, except for the terror that I experienced.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can only imagine the tear you experienced. I
Speaker 2: mean that is rough, especially at that age. Well, talking
Speaker 2: about your childhood. In seventy nine, you had your first
Speaker 2: cryptid sighting. But it wasn't a dog man. It was
Speaker 2: a sasquatch. Please tell us what happened that day.
Speaker 1: It was a late spring of seventy nine and I
Speaker 1: was around ten years old best I can remember, and.
Speaker 3: My brother and I were playing.
Speaker 1: Ball with just a ball in bat out in the
Speaker 1: back pasture, and we had one of our friends with us.
Speaker 3: We was a couple of.
Speaker 1: Years older and while we're practicing baseball, we stirred up
Speaker 1: a pheasant and my older friend was the one at bat,
Speaker 1: and he actually threw the baseball bat in the direction
Speaker 1: of the pheasant and downed it. And we were quite excited,
Speaker 1: and we're cheering and jeering pretty loudly, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, on our about ten acres something jumped up
Speaker 1: to its feet and started running down the fence line,
Speaker 1: and my brother and I were like, what is that?
Speaker 1: You know, we couldn't figure well at first we thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we thought, but we just knew
Speaker 1: we thought it was human. When we asked our older friend,
Speaker 1: what is that, and he replied casually, Oh, that's a
Speaker 1: wild man. And my brother and I were like, wild man,
Speaker 1: What the heck's a wild man? And I watched this
Speaker 1: thing running down the fence line and it wasn't moving
Speaker 1: up and down like you would think a person would run.
Speaker 1: It kind of seemed like it was riding a bicycle
Speaker 1: the fluid motion it was.
Speaker 3: Having, you know.
Speaker 1: And my dad showed up from work shortly after, and
Speaker 1: you could still see this wild man in the distance
Speaker 1: about fifty acres away, and we motioned to our dad.
Speaker 1: Dad come here, come here. Look, it's a wild man.
Speaker 1: And my dad was trying to look off into the distance.
Speaker 1: He didn't see much, and then he motioned for a
Speaker 1: older friend, uh, and they like were talking to each other, and.
Speaker 3: My dad didn't say anything else.
Speaker 1: About it, And then our attention got back to the
Speaker 1: down pheasant that that happened about, and meant before.
Speaker 2: That, Wow, Todd, that's some pretty lethal aim. If he
Speaker 2: was able to throw that bat and hit that pheasant,
Speaker 2: how close was he to it?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, you know, pheasant, he can get right up
Speaker 1: on him before they before they'll scare, you know, and
Speaker 1: make a run for it. He'd probably we'd probably been
Speaker 1: on top of it during the whole duration of our
Speaker 1: baseball game before it came to a really strange conclude ending.
Speaker 2: See Okay, yeah he was that close then that would
Speaker 2: definitely explain a lot. Did your dad put in to
Speaker 2: effect certain rules after that experience, after he saw that
Speaker 2: wild man off in the distance.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if he knew the family that
Speaker 1: what exactly it was, but I know that he was
Speaker 1: concerned when he heard the word man. You know, he
Speaker 1: thought somebody might have been on our property that shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been there. There are a whole lot of no
Speaker 1: trespassing signs in the area where I grew up, as
Speaker 1: far as curfews, we had to be home at dinner time.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm glad you're still able to go out
Speaker 2: and do all the things you normally did then. And
Speaker 2: it sounds like it didn't traumatize you. It sounds like
Speaker 2: you're still interested in going out and joining yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard to keep kids down, especially when
Speaker 1: you have all that acred to play on.
Speaker 2: Well, normally that's the case, but when most kids see
Speaker 2: a sasquatch, then yeah, that tends to change things. I'm
Speaker 2: just glad that it didn't affect you that way. Thank
Speaker 2: goodness for that.
Speaker 1: Well, where you know, we were so busy doing other things,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we finally soon forgot about the
Speaker 1: whole incident. Whether we're playing soccer or baseball or fishing.
Speaker 1: We had all kinds of things to do, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure the memory of that soon faded had we got
Speaker 1: active doing other things.
Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the great things about growing up
Speaker 2: in an environment like that, You can go out and
Speaker 2: fish and do things out in the outdoors. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why I think that's about
Speaker 2: the best way to grow up. All right, Todd, please
Speaker 2: tell us about your dog meting encounter. Now give us
Speaker 2: every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, my dog.
Speaker 1: That experience was in spring of nineteen eighty two, and
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old, and some of the kids
Speaker 1: in school that day, we're talking about one of their
Speaker 1: parents was going to be out of town or both
Speaker 1: of their parents were going to be out of town
Speaker 1: on a I guess a vacation, and so it gave
Speaker 1: us some of us an opportunity to go to the
Speaker 1: friend's house where there was going to be no adult supervision.
Speaker 1: And you know, I always didn't make the best decisions
Speaker 1: when I was young growing. So I told him i'd
Speaker 1: be there, and so early that evening, I pulled my
Speaker 1: bike out of the barn and aired up the tires
Speaker 1: and staged it by my window where I was going
Speaker 1: to crawl out of that night, and when my parents
Speaker 1: and everybody was asleep in my house, I was going
Speaker 1: to sneak out and go to my friends whose parents
Speaker 1: were out of town. And uh I did. I did
Speaker 1: just that. Around midnight, I creeped out I crawled out
Speaker 1: my window rather and headed in the direction where my
Speaker 1: friend lived, and there was about four miles up the road,
Speaker 1: and about halfway on the way there, I was hearing
Speaker 1: some real, real peculiar sounds, like like some screams and
Speaker 1: some some uh, just noises that I I didn't normally
Speaker 1: hear because it was in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and in the middle of the night, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: in bed usually except for this one night.
Speaker 3: But I didn't let that deter me. So I'm riding
Speaker 3: to my friend's house.
Speaker 1: And about halfway there, my bicycle tires went flat. The
Speaker 1: air had come out of them, and uh again, that
Speaker 1: didn't deter me. And so I'm riding with flat tires
Speaker 1: the rest of the way to my friend's house.
Speaker 3: And when I finally got there.
Speaker 1: We just, you know, we're just we're having fun without
Speaker 1: any adult supervision. And that was kind of a kick
Speaker 1: for me, you know, because it was the first time
Speaker 1: that I've ever done anything like that. So as things
Speaker 1: started to wind down, it was about maybe three am,
Speaker 1: I needed to start heading home. With my bicycle tires
Speaker 1: being flat, I was gonna be riding. One of the
Speaker 1: terms is called is rim riding, and that's where you're
Speaker 1: riding with no air in your tires and then you're
Speaker 1: just pretty much basically on.
Speaker 3: Your rims of your bicycle. So I started heading.
Speaker 1: Back to my house around three am, and about three
Speaker 1: quarters of the way there, I had to go up
Speaker 1: this incline and then down.
Speaker 3: This hill, this pretty steep hill.
Speaker 1: And as I was starting to descend down this hill,
Speaker 1: I noticed in the proper in the property to the
Speaker 1: left of me, there's a creek in a small bridge.
Speaker 1: It's part of the driveway of this estate. And I
Speaker 1: saw three objects standing like in a little huddle, it
Speaker 1: seemed like. And and I was making a racket too
Speaker 1: on these rims on that asphalt road, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: the noise got their attention, and they at at the
Speaker 1: same time, all three of these objects that were standing
Speaker 1: up looked over in my direction, and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I wasn't that concerned at first because I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. I thought maybe it could have
Speaker 1: been maybe some farmers, because the farmers in our area
Speaker 1: wake up pretty early, especially to dairy farmers. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then as I started.
Speaker 1: To send down the hill even more, two of the
Speaker 1: objects ran in the direction I was riding my bike,
Speaker 1: and then once stayed there, stationed but focused at me, you.
Speaker 3: Know, intent intentively.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: When the two objects ran in my direction, in the direction.
Speaker 1: I was heading, Uh, they cat what I thought was
Speaker 1: change is they cast out a two long shadows that
Speaker 1: were ahead of them.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a partial moon that night, and but.
Speaker 1: I wasn't too after that, I wasn't too concerned about
Speaker 1: those two objects.
Speaker 3: I was made mostly concerned about the one.
Speaker 1: That stayed that was intentively uh, looking in my direction,
Speaker 1: and they just start to proceed in my direction. And
Speaker 1: I was pedaling and pedaling as fast as I could.
Speaker 1: But I knew that this thing was going to head
Speaker 1: me off so called at the path. So all I
Speaker 1: could say to do was stop my bicycle and wait
Speaker 1: for this collisions. You know, almost is what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: We were going to come to ends, you know, And
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta think about this. Okay, I'm on
Speaker 1: the shoulder of the road and on the other side
Speaker 1: of the road there was a ditch and then a fence. Okay,
Speaker 1: this creature, now that I'm thinking this is some kind
Speaker 1: of creature, came right up to it to approach that fence,
Speaker 1: that fence line, and all I could think of to
Speaker 1: do was take my two index fingers and make a
Speaker 1: cross out of them, okay, and start reciting the Lord's Prayer,
Speaker 1: because I thought I was a goner. And as soon
Speaker 1: as I did that, this creature, which now was close
Speaker 1: enough for me to see what it actually was. It
Speaker 1: looked like a huge werewold.
Speaker 3: Okay. It's head was like three feet wide.
Speaker 1: I had a snout, it had a harry chess, you know,
Speaker 1: like like a dog would have, and it had these
Speaker 1: arms that weren't that big, but they were arms okay.
Speaker 3: And teeth, oh my gosh. The muzzle was just full
Speaker 3: of teeth.
Speaker 1: And a few of them were really sharp, a nine
Speaker 1: looking okay from the top and bottom bridge.
Speaker 3: And so I'm.
Speaker 1: Standing there making across out of my two index fingers,
Speaker 1: saying the Lord's prairie, and it stopped it in its tracks.
Speaker 1: It's and it was so upset with me when it
Speaker 1: was screaming at me. I was so close that I
Speaker 1: was getting spit on my face from this creature's mouth,
Speaker 1: and not not worrying about where it was, I just
Speaker 1: started peddling, peddling again in the direction of my house,
Speaker 1: and you know, you would.
Speaker 3: Think that I would be totally terrified. I was totally terrified,
Speaker 3: but when I got.
Speaker 1: Home and thought about what had just happened, I felt
Speaker 1: like I defeated.
Speaker 3: Something that was surely going to kill me.
Speaker 1: So I waited till dawn before I went on to
Speaker 1: my property because of these two shadow figures that were
Speaker 1: going in the direction that I was. And I saw
Speaker 1: these two shadow figures go into my backyard.
Speaker 3: That's why I.
Speaker 1: Waited till dawn before I proceeded onto my property. And
Speaker 1: once the que started getting bright enough, I went down
Speaker 1: my driveway, parked my bike into the bushes along near
Speaker 1: our garage, and I crawled back through my window. And
Speaker 1: at about six thirty maybe seven am, my brother came into.
Speaker 3: My room and he has to be where have you been,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: And I told him exactly what had happened the night before,
Speaker 1: and I told him about the werewolf, and he kind
Speaker 1: of rolled his eyes, and then he told me, you'd
Speaker 1: better be going to school today. And I told him
Speaker 1: that after what had happened to me last night and
Speaker 1: me being up all night.
Speaker 3: There's no way I'm going to school today.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't call it a luxury, But my parents
Speaker 1: would leave for work before I would go and catch
Speaker 1: the bus, so I knew that, and that's how I
Speaker 1: decided how I wasn't going to go to school that day.
Speaker 1: And that was my dog experience. But you know, I
Speaker 1: did feel like I had somehow defeated this thing, you know,
Speaker 1: with my religious police at the time, and that's my
Speaker 1: dog man experience.
Speaker 2: Consider how it responded when you revoked it, rebuked it,
Speaker 2: I should say, do you think that means that it
Speaker 2: was definitely a demonic entity or something else?
Speaker 3: It had to have been.
Speaker 1: It had to have been, because it's when I did
Speaker 1: that it stopped it in its tracks, and the anger
Speaker 1: and theory that it had that it seemed like that
Speaker 1: it couldn't approach any closer, you know, And I chalked
Speaker 1: it up to doing.
Speaker 3: You know, and believing in my beliefs and religion that
Speaker 3: got me through it.
Speaker 2: Were there any other points in that experience where it
Speaker 2: was close enough to grab you but didn't before you.
Speaker 1: Because I was about maybe fifteen feet from where it was,
Speaker 1: It couldn't, really, it wasn't. The arms weren't long enough
Speaker 1: to reach out and grab me. And you know, I
Speaker 1: I guess the term rebuked it, you know, and I
Speaker 1: just knew at that time that I had stopped it
Speaker 1: in its tracks and it wasn't going to proceed any further.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you did that. I'm wondering though most kids,
Speaker 2: after having experience like that that was so traumatic, they
Speaker 2: wouldn't even give a second thought ever going outside again
Speaker 2: to play. But you did. You were still able to
Speaker 2: go out and play in do normal things that kids
Speaker 2: would do. What do you think it is about your
Speaker 2: makeup that enabled you to do that, to handle that
Speaker 2: experience so well?
Speaker 3: I think that I had repressed the memory.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go through any kind of trauma
Speaker 1: like that a lot of times and even in my
Speaker 1: case that you you just repress the memory. And also too,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of things going on, even at
Speaker 1: that early age.
Speaker 3: You know, baseball.
Speaker 1: Practice, you know, school exams, you know, a girlfriend or two.
Speaker 3: You know, there was other things on my mind after that,
Speaker 3: you know, encounter that I thought, probably.
Speaker 1: At the time, were more important than recalling that that experience.
Speaker 2: Well, I can appreciate the fact you had all that
Speaker 2: going on, But even though you did have all those
Speaker 2: things going on, the fact that you're still able to
Speaker 2: go out and be business as usual as a kid.
Speaker 2: I mean that shows you have a lot of sand.
Speaker 2: Most kids, even if they had all those things going on,
Speaker 2: would just be mortified. They just wouldn't even give a
Speaker 2: second thought ever going back outside to play. But you did,
Speaker 2: and thank goodness, you dealt with it so well. You
Speaker 2: deserve a lot of credit for that. You really do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have dealt with it that
Speaker 4: well or you know, because if in fact I had
Speaker 4: repressed the experience, then I wouldn't have even thought about
Speaker 4: it at all.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can appreciate that, but I mean, most
Speaker 2: people wouldn't have been able to repress it and still
Speaker 2: be able to live their lives the way they wanted to.
Speaker 2: But whatever you needed to do to be able to
Speaker 2: move forward, you did so. Yeah, thank goodness for that. Now,
Speaker 2: when you said it was about fifteen feet from you
Speaker 2: when you rebuked it, it was so close that you
Speaker 2: said blue spit on you. What was it doing with
Speaker 2: its arms?
Speaker 1: They were just they were docile, you know, there wasn't
Speaker 1: much of any movement at all. You know, I was
Speaker 1: more concerned about its mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why you were more concerned about
Speaker 2: its mouth. How good of a look did you get
Speaker 2: at its teeth?
Speaker 3: I got a real good look at its teeth. There
Speaker 3: was almost like it was in three D.
Speaker 1: You know, the big snout, the big nose, and then
Speaker 1: huge canine and the back teeth.
Speaker 3: You know, they were all there.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they were. Were you able to see
Speaker 2: if it had one row of teeth or two?
Speaker 3: It had definitely had two rows of teeth and a
Speaker 3: big tongue.
Speaker 2: Wow. That must have really freaked you out and understand.
Speaker 2: So was there anything unusual about the spacing of its teeth?
Speaker 1: No, I mean, all I can remember was that they
Speaker 1: were large, really large. The top row you could see
Speaker 1: like the uh, the inside, the insiders, and then these
Speaker 1: huge like cane I.
Speaker 3: T I see.
Speaker 2: The reason why I asked that is some of my
Speaker 2: witnesses report seeing teeth that look fairly similar to just
Speaker 2: normal canine teeth, while others say that the teeth looked
Speaker 2: like what you'd see in the shark's mouth.
Speaker 3: So yeah, or an alligator yeah.
Speaker 2: Or an alligator yeah. So that's why I asked that.
Speaker 2: I was just wondering about that before we move on.
Speaker 2: I just want to thank Gabriel Hawkins for your donation.
Speaker 2: I really appreciated Gabriel. Thank you so much. Moving forward,
Speaker 2: their Todd, can you think of anything that you might
Speaker 2: have done that night on that ride home that might
Speaker 2: have triggered the dog men to come after you?
Speaker 1: Just that I might have interrupted what was going on
Speaker 1: along that creek with a small bridge that went across it,
Speaker 1: that I had interrupted them, all right, the dog man
Speaker 1: which I was referring it to, were wolf and the
Speaker 1: two other of the two other I don't know what
Speaker 1: they were today.
Speaker 3: I just know that they were casting really long shadows.
Speaker 1: But I definitely interrupted them with the sounds of my
Speaker 1: bike riding on the flat tires.
Speaker 3: You know, I was making a racket.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they were doing in the woods there
Speaker 2: when you came by. I don't think that anything you
Speaker 2: did triggered them, but then again I wasn't there to know,
Speaker 2: so yeah, maybe there was something that you did to
Speaker 2: set them off. But thank goodness, you rebuked that dog
Speaker 2: me in and the experience ended the way it did.
Speaker 2: I just hate the fact, like I said, you had
Speaker 2: to go all this. I mean, no kids should have
Speaker 2: to deal with that. No adult should. So that's horrible,
Speaker 2: it really is. You said your friend lived about four
Speaker 2: miles from you. Was it remote the whole way there
Speaker 2: or did you have to go through developed areas?
Speaker 3: Now, it was pretty whiral, and there was a property like.
Speaker 1: Every ten sometimes twenty acres, so that's roughly an eighth
Speaker 1: of a mile to a quarter mile in between.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was pretty remote. Then when
Speaker 2: all this was going on, I know you had a
Speaker 2: lot on your mind, but can you remember, by chance
Speaker 2: if all the ambient noises stopped or not.
Speaker 1: Oh when this where Woll screamed at me, I had
Speaker 1: lost my hearing. It was so loud. So after it
Speaker 1: had screamed at me, all I could hear was ringing
Speaker 1: in my ear, and you know, I was all I
Speaker 1: could think.
Speaker 3: I was great. Now I'm going to have.
Speaker 1: To tell my dad where I was last night and
Speaker 1: why my hearing's gone.
Speaker 2: Did it take long for that hearing to come back?
Speaker 1: No, it came back. As soon as I got to
Speaker 1: my property and was waiting for the dawn. I slowly
Speaker 1: started to get my hearing back.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank goodness, which was.
Speaker 3: A relief for me, because no harm, no foul, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness, that would have caused problems if it didn't.
Speaker 2: Did you ever get a good enough look at its
Speaker 2: back to see if it had a tail or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see a tail. I could see a tail.
Speaker 1: Even though I had a front of you. I could
Speaker 1: see its tail. It would have been able to hit
Speaker 1: on my right.
Speaker 3: And it was a really big tail, really.
Speaker 1: Big like a husky would have a husky dog, but
Speaker 1: way bigger, but fluffy like that.
Speaker 2: I see. Well, it sounds like you did a really
Speaker 2: good job noticing details on this dog man. Most people
Speaker 2: would have shut down and they would have been doing
Speaker 2: good to know their own name. But you took in
Speaker 2: a lot, which is admirable. That's impressive. How about its claws?
Speaker 2: What kind of claws did it have?
Speaker 1: They had huge dog hair like dog hands with big
Speaker 1: nails by claw, but the arms weren't very long at all.
Speaker 2: From the way you describe it. Oh, I'm sorry, please continue.
Speaker 3: Didn't extend it forward much.
Speaker 2: From the way you describe the claws. Do they have
Speaker 2: any hooks to them, kind of like a black bear's
Speaker 2: claws where it looked like they were made for climbing
Speaker 2: trees or were they street or.
Speaker 3: They were curved.
Speaker 1: They had some curve to them, and it even had
Speaker 1: like the dew claw, which would be like if I
Speaker 1: were to take my hands and put them out, they
Speaker 1: would be the clause would be like where my thumbs are.
Speaker 2: So not only on the back legs, but on its
Speaker 2: arms as well, on its hands, it had d claws. Yes,
Speaker 2: I see, Okay, that makes sense for everyone listening in
Speaker 2: the live chat. If you'd like to start typing out
Speaker 2: your questions for Todd, please be sure to type them
Speaker 2: in all caps so I don't miss them before I
Speaker 2: get to those. Though, we've got a little bit further
Speaker 2: to go with the questions. Moving on, Todd, in our
Speaker 2: conversations behind the scenes, you basically the first time we spoke,
Speaker 2: you gave me the impression that the sasquatch experience I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask you to tell us about next just
Speaker 2: might have been more traumatizing to you than what the
Speaker 2: dogman the encounter was. Is that accurate? Which one was
Speaker 2: was more frightening for you?
Speaker 3: The Satashquot Society is the big Foot?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can understand why. When you talked about
Speaker 2: how it actually affected you and what you did right
Speaker 2: after you had it, Well, let's get to that one now.
Speaker 2: Please tell us all the details about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, This would be.
Speaker 1: In the summer of nineteen eighty three and I was
Speaker 1: fourteen years old and I had go I had gone
Speaker 1: to the river that day.
Speaker 3: Actually I had.
Speaker 1: Gone to the river, which is a mile from my house,
Speaker 1: the day before that. But when I got to the river,
Speaker 1: there was my older my neighbor who was like four
Speaker 1: years five years older than I was at the time,
Speaker 1: and he had his girlfriend with him. So once I
Speaker 1: recognized that, I elected to go back home. So it
Speaker 1: was the very next day I went back to the
Speaker 1: river and it was just me. I thought, you know, well,
Speaker 1: I was hoping that there wasn't going to be anybody
Speaker 1: else there. As I approached the river, there was this
Speaker 1: mobile home about fifty yards from where I entered the river,
Speaker 1: and it was used as like the caretaker of the
Speaker 1: property was living there and they were an older couple.
Speaker 3: But this this time I was down there.
Speaker 1: It was a newer trailer and the old couple that
Speaker 1: lived in the trailer before that were gone, and there
Speaker 1: was a little kid playing with like his little Tonka
Speaker 1: trucks out out in front, and he saw that I
Speaker 1: had my towel, and I was in my swim trunck and.
Speaker 3: He said to me, you can't go down there.
Speaker 1: There's monsters down there, and I kind of chuckled, I know,
Speaker 1: I did chuckle it monsters huh. And then that's when
Speaker 1: his mother opened the door to the trailer and motioned
Speaker 1: him inside, and I looked over at his mom. I said,
Speaker 1: monsters huh. And I was just being jokingly about it.
Speaker 1: So I proceeded down the fifty yards down to the
Speaker 1: entrance where I get into the river, and I started
Speaker 1: walking upstream. Well, I got about maybe twenty yards upstream
Speaker 1: and on the opposite side of the river where the
Speaker 1: levee is, some rocks started getting thrown at me and
Speaker 1: they were being arcd over the levee in my direction,
Speaker 1: and I actually got hit by one of one of
Speaker 1: the rocks that I got hit with with about the
Speaker 1: size of the silver dollar. It hit me in the back.
Speaker 1: So I automatically fought that day. There were some of
Speaker 1: my friends that had beat me to the river that
Speaker 1: day and were trying to push me out. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how sometimes kids are cruel, and so not
Speaker 1: wanting to get hit by another rock, I just turned
Speaker 1: to my right and went up the river bank all
Speaker 1: into the levee road, which was a two track road.
Speaker 1: And I was pretty upset at the time, thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I had better friends than that,
Speaker 1: and so I started walking in the direction of that
Speaker 1: mobile home. And then I turned around and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to let these guys do
Speaker 1: this to me. So I turned around and started heading
Speaker 1: right where I got out of the river. And as
Speaker 1: I did that, something came up from the river bank
Speaker 1: that terrified me. It it had a large head and
Speaker 1: big black marble eyes. I don't remember seeing the ears,
Speaker 1: but the head was kind of square, it wasn't conical,
Speaker 1: and it had some hair on it, Okay, kind of
Speaker 1: like a head of cabbage that was flattened down.
Speaker 3: You know. That's the only way I could explain it.
Speaker 1: And what terrified me the most was the skin color,
Speaker 1: because at that time I had watched the movie The
Speaker 1: Extrasist and the actress the name in that movie, her
Speaker 1: name was Raven, and when she was possessionally had this
Speaker 1: color the skin that resembled what I.
Speaker 3: Was looking at.
Speaker 1: And every line on this creature's face, whether it be
Speaker 1: the two laugh lines on either side of its mouth,
Speaker 1: and all the lines that were on its forehead were
Speaker 1: a bright red okay.
Speaker 3: Its nose was pug pugged, kind of like.
Speaker 1: A pig snout, but not as big, okay, not like
Speaker 1: the size of a pig snout, but it was pugged okay.
Speaker 1: And its mouth with it went almost from from it
Speaker 1: just went from one side of the face to the other,
Speaker 1: like it was like.
Speaker 3: A trap, a trap jaw.
Speaker 1: Really big teeth and there were some uh K nine
Speaker 1: type type teeth that were that were sharp, but like sharp,
Speaker 1: both on the upper and lower bridge.
Speaker 3: And the chest was really big. And I only saw
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 1: From uh the upper torso up and and the the
Speaker 1: winketh of.
Speaker 3: The shoulders were really wide, way wider than mine. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I couldn't determine if this thing was that old or
Speaker 1: that young, Okay. All I knew is that I thought
Speaker 1: it was some kind of demon okay.
Speaker 3: And I was so.
Speaker 1: Taken back by this thing that I started back pedaling
Speaker 1: backwards and I fell, and because I was still wet
Speaker 1: from getting down of the river, I fell into the
Speaker 1: two track road which was mostly still There was some
Speaker 1: sand but mostly silt, and I had this all over
Speaker 1: my wet body. When I got up and turned to run,
Speaker 1: my legs felt like they were about two hundred pounds each.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't move, and so taking my right and left
Speaker 1: hand on my right leg, I was picking my leg up,
Speaker 1: get it to move, you know, move forward.
Speaker 3: And finally I got movement in my leg and I.
Speaker 1: Started running to that mobile home that wasn't very far away.
Speaker 1: And I was banging on this trailer as hard as
Speaker 1: I could, and my mouth was so dry I could
Speaker 1: barely get any words out, and I was yelling, please
Speaker 1: help me, let me in, Please help me. And you
Speaker 1: know what, I wasn't going to get any help because
Speaker 1: that lady wasn't going to open her door for me.
Speaker 1: Now that kid that said you can't go down there,
Speaker 1: there's monitors down there, well he wasn't lying. They must
Speaker 1: have known something that I didn't obviously, so I knew
Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to get any.
Speaker 3: Help from them.
Speaker 1: So I started down the dirt road that I came
Speaker 1: up on from my street from the asphalt, and when
Speaker 1: I almost got to the asphalt, I noticed that the
Speaker 1: irrigation ditches were full, and they're like three foot irrigation ditches.
Speaker 1: So the only thing that was in between me and
Speaker 1: the irrigation ditch was a barbed bar fence. So I
Speaker 1: went in between the barbed wires and got into the
Speaker 1: irrigation ditch because by now the silt had started drying
Speaker 1: on me like stucco, so I was just trying to
Speaker 1: get silt.
Speaker 3: This dried silt off me as fast as I could.
Speaker 3: And then I don't know what got my.
Speaker 1: Attention, but I looked towards the levee of the river
Speaker 1: again and I saw this huge.
Speaker 3: Silhouette. I didn't see much detail about.
Speaker 1: All I could see was this big youthe head, the
Speaker 1: huge rake, the shoulder that were like about four feet wide,
Speaker 1: big arms, big muscles, a big barrel chest, and from
Speaker 1: the upper torso where the chested went down to the
Speaker 1: waist like a tapered and then these two huge legs
Speaker 1: that looked like they were tree trunks. And in my mind,
Speaker 1: this is what I heard. I heard, you better get
Speaker 1: out of here right now before you can't, okay, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't my voice I was saying this. This was
Speaker 1: something that wasn't my voice that I was hearing, and
Speaker 1: so not being able to get all this dry silt
Speaker 1: off me. I got up and went in between the
Speaker 1: barbed wires again and back onto the dirt road, which
Speaker 1: about fifteen yards from the asphalt. And I had put
Speaker 1: my arms out and my hands up, and it said okay.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, okay, I'm leaving and terrified, right terrified.
Speaker 1: There was nothing I could say to rebuke this thing.
Speaker 1: I heard what I heard, and I believed, I believed
Speaker 1: it to be true.
Speaker 3: So I left there. I got onto the asphalt road
Speaker 3: and started heading home. Now, remember I have a mile.
Speaker 1: To walk still, and I got about an eighth of
Speaker 1: a mile in the direction of my house, and then
Speaker 1: I heard something approaching on the other side of the road,
Speaker 1: on the other side of the fence. And I couldn't
Speaker 1: see it though, but I could. I could hear it approaching,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 3: Could see it.
Speaker 1: It's football because the weeds that were growing they were
Speaker 1: moving with the steps of this thing that I can't see.
Speaker 1: And I jumped out of my out of my skin again.
Speaker 1: I mean I literally jumped up in the air, scared.
Speaker 1: And about the same time a farmer came right and
Speaker 1: by it old farm truck, and I swear if pot
Speaker 1: farmer had taken a look at me.
Speaker 3: He could tell something was wrong.
Speaker 1: So I kept I kept walking and I and this
Speaker 1: time I had lost my flip flops.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's summertime.
Speaker 1: And uh, a hot asphalt road is nothing, nothing fun, okay.
Speaker 1: So I had to walk on the very the very
Speaker 1: edge of the street where the where the weeds.
Speaker 3: Were growing to keep my feet from burning.
Speaker 1: Finally I made it home, okay, And I must have
Speaker 1: looked like, uh, looked like hell Okay.
Speaker 3: I was in shock, and uh.
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was get onto my property,
Speaker 1: to the back of the house where the spit there
Speaker 1: was a spickett and a hose and start rinsing off.
Speaker 1: And not only was I rinsing off this dried silk
Speaker 1: that was on my body, but I was also were
Speaker 1: washing off this stink. The stench that I had, and
Speaker 1: how I described the smell was like the rotting meat,
Speaker 1: kind of like a skunk, but it wasn't a skunk,
Speaker 1: but it was pung up like a skunk and the
Speaker 1: bottom of a garbage can in summertime. And so I
Speaker 1: rinsed off. And then now I'm left with my swim trunks,
Speaker 1: which stunk. I'm sure they stunk too, because I went
Speaker 1: into the barn and I had stripped down and I
Speaker 1: had shoved my clothes and between a couple of bills
Speaker 1: of hey that we had left.
Speaker 3: Over from the season before.
Speaker 1: And then I because I didn't want my dad to
Speaker 1: know that I was at the river, so I hid
Speaker 1: my swim trunks, and then I went and rinsed off
Speaker 1: one more time with the spickett, and then I went
Speaker 1: to the house and then I took and I washed
Speaker 1: up in the shower, and I like rinsed a louder
Speaker 1: rints and repeated like twice. Okay, because I didn't on
Speaker 1: any signs of anything that I had to explain to
Speaker 1: my dad when he got home from work. I went
Speaker 1: into my bedroom and I just waited, okay, and still
Speaker 1: in shock, I'm sure when he came home, he came
Speaker 1: into my bedroom and to ask me how my day was,
Speaker 1: and I broke down, and so he sat at the
Speaker 1: edge of my bed with me, and then I proceeded
Speaker 1: to explain to him that I was at the river
Speaker 1: and that I knew I wasn't supposed to be down there,
Speaker 1: and the reason why I wasn't supposed to be down
Speaker 1: there is because he had he had given us instructions
Speaker 1: before because I had gotten cut down there on some
Speaker 1: barbed wire and I had to get stitched up. So
Speaker 1: if that was the reason why he told us never
Speaker 1: to go back down to the river, maybe he did
Speaker 1: know about something that was.
Speaker 3: Going on, not only on our our property.
Speaker 1: But I just have a feeling my dad knew about
Speaker 1: these things, especially since we told him about the wild man,
Speaker 1: and if he believed, if he believed that to be true,
Speaker 1: maybe that's one of the reasons why he didn't want.
Speaker 3: Us going back down to the river again.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he could still tell that I was
Speaker 1: in shock, and you know what, he didn't scold me.
Speaker 3: I didn't get in any kind of trouble.
Speaker 1: He just told me to rest, you know, rest up, okay,
Speaker 1: because he can tell that I've been through it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been through it, and you know, I never heard
Speaker 1: anything else about that.
Speaker 3: But very next day.
Speaker 1: Around it was a couple hours before lunchtime, so I'd say,
Speaker 1: around ten o'clock in the morning, I'm in the garage
Speaker 1: and our garage door faces our street. I saw two
Speaker 1: two what looked like government vehicles go down our street.
Speaker 1: One of them got to the vehicles, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if they were Bureau of Land Management, but they
Speaker 1: were newer trucks and they were step side and they
Speaker 1: looked like Forestreet trucks, but they were painted like forestry trucks.
Speaker 3: And I say they looked like Forestreet trucks because.
Speaker 1: They were well, we'll drive, and they had the skinny tires,
Speaker 1: you know, and they had these camper shells that had
Speaker 1: a door in the back where the tailgate would be,
Speaker 1: and they were painted this bluish gray color.
Speaker 3: And there was two of them, one parked over there.
Speaker 1: Next to my property and the other one kept going
Speaker 1: straight down the road down towards the river. And I
Speaker 1: just thought that that looks real peculiar. Those must be
Speaker 1: government trucks.
Speaker 3: And you know my dad's employment.
Speaker 1: At one time, my dad held credentials with local law enforcement.
Speaker 1: He went to the FBI academy, he was in the OSI,
Speaker 1: and he spent some time with the CIA. So when
Speaker 1: he was in the o SI and for those listeners
Speaker 1: who don't know what OSI is, its Office of Special Investigations. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if a bigfoot sign constitute constitutes a
Speaker 1: office a special investigations team to come out. But I
Speaker 1: for some reason, I believe that my dad might have
Speaker 1: contacted some of his colleagues and they went to go
Speaker 1: investigate what had happened to me the day before.
Speaker 2: He just might have been connected. From what I understand,
Speaker 2: he did something after that day that maybe, so you
Speaker 2: hopefully wouldn't have any more experiences like that. Please expand
Speaker 2: on that. For us.
Speaker 1: The followings early summer, or it might have been the
Speaker 1: early fall of that same year, we had built in
Speaker 1: swimming pool put in so there would be no more,
Speaker 1: no reason at all that I would have to go
Speaker 1: back to the river to cool off. We had our
Speaker 1: own pool.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Knew what he was doing. Yeah, that worked with me too.
Speaker 2: I'd spend the whole summer there right by the pool, so.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say I blame you there. That was
Speaker 2: a good move. And what in the world's going on
Speaker 2: with that dead looking sasquatch. I mean, I can understand
Speaker 2: a lot of adaptations they might have, but having greenish
Speaker 2: looking skin, bluish greenish looking skin like you'd see on
Speaker 2: a corpse, that's really hard to understand and wrap your
Speaker 2: mind around. I just I can't see the advantage to
Speaker 2: having skin that looks like I just like that. I
Speaker 2: just wonder why it looked that way. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I've ever heard of any counter
Speaker 1: with that colored skin. Usually i've heard that they're like black,
Speaker 1: they look black or mostly black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, normally that's how it is. But now with that
Speaker 2: one that you saw, maybe something was wrong with it.
Speaker 2: It's just hard to know. All we can do is
Speaker 2: guess on that. Well, let's get to some of the
Speaker 2: questions from the live chat here. The first one is
Speaker 2: a general question from Christi Anne. She wants to know
Speaker 2: if dog men have rabies. Well, that's something we can
Speaker 2: only guess at. Mammals can get rabies, but our dog
Speaker 2: men just run to the mill mammals. I mean, there
Speaker 2: are a lot of things that point soundly towards them
Speaker 2: not being just typical flesh and blood creatures that are
Speaker 2: out there trying to scratch out a living. There is
Speaker 2: a lot of evidence that points towards them possibly having
Speaker 2: demonic ties. We don't know that for sure, but if
Speaker 2: that's a case, I don't think that rabies is even
Speaker 2: a consideration for them. This next question is from Gabriel
Speaker 2: Hawkins and Gabe wants to know, Vic, whatever happened to
Speaker 2: the guest who was in a coma?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: That really is a sad situation there. That's the eyewitness
Speaker 2: I was telling you guys about maybe four or five
Speaker 2: months ago. I think it was where what that guy
Speaker 2: went through as a kid, he had a dog men
Speaker 2: come up and do something horrible to him. I don't
Speaker 2: want to go into the details in case he does
Speaker 2: pull out of his condition, his illness. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if he's even alive now. The last time I checked
Speaker 2: in on him, his mother responded to my text and
Speaker 2: let me know that he was still in the coma,
Speaker 2: a medically induced coma, I believe it was. I thought
Speaker 2: about reaching out again, but I was kind of afraid
Speaker 2: to because what if she lost him, lost her son,
Speaker 2: and then here's this stranger asking questions. I was hoping
Speaker 2: he would have recovered from it, but I really don't know.
Speaker 2: For that reason, I can't tell you. The next question
Speaker 2: is from Michigan meat eater, and his question is how
Speaker 2: close do you live to this area now? And have
Speaker 2: you had any other strange experiences or noises as an adult.
Speaker 1: Since then? I moved to southern California. My parents sold
Speaker 1: a ranch and I hadn't heard any strange noises like that,
Speaker 1: and I live in the city limits of San Diego.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you haven't had any other experiences. Hope
Speaker 2: it stays that way. Carlito's Way ninety three CC wants
Speaker 2: to know what color eyes did it have?
Speaker 3: They had big black, marble looking eyes.
Speaker 2: Were they kind of like the sharks? Or did you
Speaker 2: see some whites around.
Speaker 3: Them like a shark? That's a good way to explain.
Speaker 2: It, okay, I see. The next one on deck is
Speaker 2: from Anne Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, are
Speaker 2: you an identical twin or for eternal?
Speaker 1: I'm a paternal We're called mirror twins. I'm right handed
Speaker 1: and my twin is left handed. It's like looking into
Speaker 1: a mirror.
Speaker 2: Wow, I never heard of that before. Well that's interesting.
Speaker 2: And speaking of your twin, I need to see if
Speaker 2: I can get a hold of him. That'd be a
Speaker 2: great way to get some dirt on you, to get
Speaker 2: some good stories, wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that to
Speaker 2: you for all you know. Let's see the next question
Speaker 2: is from Andre's Carasales, and Andres wants to know did
Speaker 2: anything seem off before or after the encounter?
Speaker 3: This morning?
Speaker 1: Well before the dog man encountered, I was, uh, while
Speaker 1: I was pedaling to my friend's house, I was hearing
Speaker 1: sounds along the river bank, because we're where the encounter
Speaker 1: took place. The river was about it was about, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe a half a mile from the street that I
Speaker 1: was on, and I was hearing some really strange sounds.
Speaker 1: But I was just I was had a one track
Speaker 1: mine to get to my friend's house where there was
Speaker 1: no adult supervision. You know, I wasn't gonna let the
Speaker 1: really strange noises sidefacked me.
Speaker 2: Wow, you were a tough kid, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would have derailed a lot of kids, no doubt
Speaker 2: about that. This next question is from d Truth and
Speaker 2: D wants to know. Hello, Vic and Todd. Any idea
Speaker 2: on the height and weight of the dog man? Also,
Speaker 2: did you smell anything?
Speaker 3: I didn't smell anything, but I went. I would think
Speaker 3: it was it was about.
Speaker 1: The height probably could have been like close to seven
Speaker 1: feet and the way I would guess that, I don't know,
Speaker 1: close to two hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: Wow, I fill seven feet tall and only two hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: It must have been a stick figure. Almost.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. It wasn't that
Speaker 3: that thin. Now you know, it had a like a
Speaker 3: fur hair.
Speaker 1: Reminded me of a huge German shepherd, but more wolf like, more.
Speaker 3: Uh were wolf like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it sounds like a good description. Bang
Speaker 2: Bang wants to know if it had five fingers like
Speaker 2: a human hand, and you addressed that. You said that
Speaker 2: it had dew claws, So if it had new claus,
Speaker 2: did it have any kind of a protruding thumb on
Speaker 2: the side of its wrist or hand or was it
Speaker 2: just a claw?
Speaker 3: It looked like huge paws and.
Speaker 1: I was explaining that do claw as if we had
Speaker 1: our hands out and thumbs. That's what I was uscribing
Speaker 1: the claw as I see.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like that's I'm pretty funky looking paws or hands.
Speaker 2: The next one up is from Project Skyfalls, and they
Speaker 2: want to know what color was the dog man.
Speaker 1: Since it was night, all I could see was a
Speaker 1: dark colored coat.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, yeah, so much in your mind.
Speaker 2: You're doing good to know what your name was. You
Speaker 2: handled it a lot better than most people would have,
Speaker 2: but it's natural that you'd still be affected by it.
Speaker 2: Who wouldn't be, so it's understandable there. The next question
Speaker 2: is from Fred Caserta, and Fred wants to know what
Speaker 2: color worthy eyes. You told us they were black, but
Speaker 2: he also wants to know what did the pupils of
Speaker 2: the dog man look like.
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing any pupils.
Speaker 2: Some eyewitnesses report noticing them. A lot of eyewitnesses don't,
Speaker 2: so that doesn't make any different from a lot of
Speaker 2: other eyewitnesses. This next question is Nadine Smith and Nadine Hey. Nadine,
Speaker 2: she wants to know what color were the eyes of
Speaker 2: the dog men. You said that those were black, but
Speaker 2: the second part of her question you didn't answer. She
Speaker 2: wants to know did they seem intelligent like they were
Speaker 2: assessing you?
Speaker 3: Yes, I did believe that because.
Speaker 1: When I was approaching it.
Speaker 3: It was really upset. It seemed like it was really upset.
Speaker 1: Really pissed off, and so it started running towards me
Speaker 1: and there was some kind of some kind of intelligence
Speaker 1: there that it was out to get me.
Speaker 2: Well, I can only imagine all the things that are
Speaker 2: going through your mind at the time. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be the dead horse here. You deserve
Speaker 2: so much credit for holding this together, holding everything together
Speaker 2: so well, because most people have just fallen to pieces.
Speaker 2: Audisia Samber wants to know, did the dog man or
Speaker 2: did the dog men visit you in dreams? Or do
Speaker 2: you feel like you had any type of mental or
Speaker 2: telepathic connection with it? Thank you.
Speaker 1: I've never had any dreams of this terrifying, terrifying experience, and.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there was a connection.
Speaker 1: I mean, the only connection that I could think of
Speaker 1: is that I was at the wrong place at the
Speaker 1: wrong time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how most of these encounters are. Some people
Speaker 2: think that they did something that called the encounters down
Speaker 2: upon them and that's why they had them. But in
Speaker 2: most cases, that's what it boils down to, you just
Speaker 2: being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and
Speaker 2: it's no more complicated than that. The next one is
Speaker 2: from Anne Conseil, and Ian wants to know, Todd, did
Speaker 2: the dog me and mind speak with you?
Speaker 1: No, it didn't, but I had the impression that it
Speaker 1: wanted to brit me, to shreds and kill me.
Speaker 3: I thought I was a dead little teenager.
Speaker 2: Oh I bet you did. But then again, that's for
Speaker 2: most doug men they want you to think that that's
Speaker 2: what they're out to do, to rip you apart, But surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: most eyewitnesses get away. The overwhelming majority of eyewitnesses walk
Speaker 2: away without a scratch, because in most cases, these guys
Speaker 2: are just looking to torment you and not actually rip
Speaker 2: you to pieces. There's a reason behind everything they do,
Speaker 2: and they're so smart they realize that if they do
Speaker 2: kill a person, then the whole area is going to
Speaker 2: be flooded with authorities and it's going to be a
Speaker 2: big mess. So it's no surprise they don't kill eyewitnesses
Speaker 2: except for once in a true blue moon. The next
Speaker 2: question for you is from Red Edged Savage. He wants
Speaker 2: to know did you ever get the feeling that it
Speaker 2: knew what you were thinking or projected thoughts to you?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that, because.
Speaker 1: If it did, it probably wouldn't approach any further than
Speaker 1: did because, uh, you know, my quick wittedness rebuked him
Speaker 1: with holding my two.
Speaker 3: Index fingers up like a cross, you know. And I believe.
Speaker 1: Maybe if and it didn't approach any further than it did.
Speaker 1: And uh uh, I believe maybe if it did know that,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have come my way.
Speaker 2: It really makes me wonder if it was just the
Speaker 2: words when you rebuked it that had the desired effect,
Speaker 2: or if you're holding those index fingers up like you
Speaker 2: said you did, if that even played. I'm sure, Well
Speaker 2: you might be right. You just might be right. You
Speaker 2: were there and none of us were, so you'd have
Speaker 2: the best idea on what did work and what didn't.
Speaker 2: Let's go for the next question. This one is from
Speaker 2: Andras Carazalees, and he wants to know where the two
Speaker 2: other beings affected by the prayer or was it just
Speaker 2: the dog man?
Speaker 1: No, because they started running in the direction that I
Speaker 1: would going before the dog man approached. So the two
Speaker 1: other objects, teas or whatever they were, immediately started heading
Speaker 1: in the direction that I was going before the dog
Speaker 1: man started it approach to me.
Speaker 2: I see, well, it goes with us saying that encounter
Speaker 2: could have ended a heck of a lot worse than
Speaker 2: it did. I think you had about the best ending
Speaker 2: you could have possibly hoped for. Thank goodness for that.
Speaker 2: Ian Conzell wants to know did either the dog man
Speaker 2: or Bigfoot have a bad odor.
Speaker 1: After the bigfoot encounter, the one at the river where
Speaker 1: I thought it could have been some kind of demon.
Speaker 1: Before today I realized I believe it was a big
Speaker 1: foot did have an odor. It was a really strong
Speaker 1: punch it oder punch it like a skunk, But it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't skunky smelling.
Speaker 1: It was like, like I said, like rotten meat and
Speaker 1: the bottom of.
Speaker 3: A garbage can in the summertime. Anybody knows what that
Speaker 3: smells like.
Speaker 2: You told us about how after you got back you
Speaker 2: hit those clothes because of them smelling so bad. They
Speaker 2: probably stink to this day when they want to put
Speaker 2: that stink out. They're a masterful at it.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But yeah, they smelt for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they did. I don't doubt that at all.
Speaker 2: This next question is from Summer ne zero seven and
Speaker 2: the Summer wants to know, Todd, is this the first
Speaker 2: time you're sharing your dog man slash bigfoot encounter? And
Speaker 2: did any of your friends or family ever share any
Speaker 2: encounters with you if they've had any? We believe you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh, thank you. Now, this isn't the first
Speaker 1: time I recanted my or told my experience with the
Speaker 1: dog Man featured on Vick's I witnessed bigfoot I've witness
Speaker 1: Radio last week, and I mentioned that that encounter.
Speaker 2: And that show is doing really well, by the way,
Speaker 2: so that you know. But then again, like I told you, you
Speaker 2: did such a masterful job sharing your experiences. It's really
Speaker 2: no wonder it's not. The next question is from man
Speaker 2: Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, do you think
Speaker 2: the government knows about dog men?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I firmly believe that I think the government.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the government knows about a lot of things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about today.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they have one
Speaker 2: of these things in a cage. Now, as far as
Speaker 2: dog men go, I'm not sure that all of them
Speaker 2: do have demonic qualities, if any of them actually do,
Speaker 2: of course, we don't know that definitively. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised at all if they have some dog men
Speaker 2: in the cage and are able to really study them
Speaker 2: so they know premature everything about them, with all their
Speaker 2: resources and abilities, wouldn't surprise me in the least. Let's
Speaker 2: get another question up here. This one's from summer n
Speaker 2: O seven, and she wants to know did you see
Speaker 2: any strange lights before your encounters happened.
Speaker 3: No, I did not.
Speaker 2: Some my witnesses due some my witnesses don't. Most don't,
Speaker 2: but some do for whatever reason. Bang Bang wants to know, Todd,
Speaker 2: please elaborate on the reason the smell got on you.
Speaker 3: I just believe that I was that close, so close to.
Speaker 1: It, that that the smell had permeated around me.
Speaker 3: You know I was that close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. With the way they can stink, you don't have
Speaker 2: to be all that close with that smell too on you.
Speaker 2: So it's no wonder it did get on him. Gabriel
Speaker 2: Hawkins wants to know, Vic, when will you do another
Speaker 2: Q and A with us listeners. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what I'm going to do another
Speaker 2: Q and A, but maybe I'll do one before too long.
Speaker 2: I try to just bring on new eyewitnesses and maybe
Speaker 2: to mix things up, do a Q and A or
Speaker 2: some other type of show once in a blue moon,
Speaker 2: but don't really have one in the plan says of
Speaker 2: right now, so I'm not really sure. This next question
Speaker 2: for you is from ben youtubing, and they want to
Speaker 2: know question for Vic, how did you become such an
Speaker 2: expert on the dog Man and other cryptids. Well, number one,
Speaker 2: there are no experts on dog men or any other cryptids.
Speaker 2: What I know about dogmen is from a ridiculous amount
Speaker 2: of exposure to eye witnesses. I mean I've spoken with
Speaker 2: thousands upon thousands of them. If you speak with thousands
Speaker 2: upon thousands of people who have had direct interactions with
Speaker 2: grizzly bears, example, well, if you keep your ears open,
Speaker 2: you're going to learn a tremendous amount about them. So
Speaker 2: it's basically the same thing. But instead of talking about grizzlies,
Speaker 2: here talking about dog men. I hope that answers that question.
Speaker 2: And he wants to know, do you have your own
Speaker 2: episode if you go to a channel on YouTube called
Speaker 2: sawdust Beast. I was interviewed on there and I talked
Speaker 2: about my sasquatch encounters or possible sasquatch encounters there, including
Speaker 2: one that happened right around forty five years ago where
Speaker 2: I think I had one thousand pounder just literally feet
Speaker 2: behind me when I was deer hunting. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: recommend you go check that out. This next question for
Speaker 2: you is from t Bone, and I guess another question
Speaker 2: directed towards me. Let's try to keep all the questions
Speaker 2: focused on the guest here, on Todd and not on me.
Speaker 2: I'll answer this one though. It says vic I recall
Speaker 2: you mentioning you've seen footage of dog Man. Yes, I
Speaker 2: have rather close up on trail cams. Yeah, definitely have
Speaker 2: that as well. But have you seen any pictures or
Speaker 2: videos circulating online that you believe to be authentic? Yes,
Speaker 2: I most definitely have seen pictures circulating around the Internet
Speaker 2: that are definitely authentic. Pictures that have been shared with
Speaker 2: me that were really impressive photos, and then maybe a
Speaker 2: year or two later, I'd see it pop up online
Speaker 2: and then before you believe it, they were taken down.
Speaker 2: Sometimes a person who posted it was just gone. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they caught any blowback for posting that picture.
Speaker 2: But like I've said countless times, if you make the
Speaker 2: mistake of going public with any evidence about these things
Speaker 2: that's too good, there's definite blowback. The government does not
Speaker 2: want that. So I plan on doing what I do
Speaker 2: for a long time, helping the eyewitnesses. If I didn't
Speaker 2: know better, and if I made the mistake of putting
Speaker 2: evidence out there for public consumption that was above a
Speaker 2: certain level of even I wouldn't be allowed to help
Speaker 2: the eyewitnesses. I disappear as well, and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to make that mistake or let that happen. Let's move
Speaker 2: on to the next question. This question is from Red
Speaker 2: Edged Savage, and he wants to know, Todd, could you
Speaker 2: tell if it had legs like a human in basic shape?
Speaker 1: It had legs like a dog, you know, anine. You know,
Speaker 1: they were bent and it was walking up right.
Speaker 2: I'm still so impressed by all the details that you
Speaker 2: noticed about that thing. Yeah, it's almost like you were
Speaker 2: a trained observer. You did a really good job. Like
Speaker 2: I told you before several times.
Speaker 3: Well, I call it like I see it. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good way to be and a good
Speaker 2: thing to do. That's all you can do. Mary's got
Speaker 2: the next one. She wants to know, did your father
Speaker 2: have a talk with you about what he knew or
Speaker 2: if he ever shared with you what he did It work.
Speaker 1: You know, especially with the OSI, and definitely with the CIA,
Speaker 1: and some things that he learned in the when he
Speaker 1: went to the FBI Academy. He hasn't divulged too much
Speaker 1: of the FBI Academy, but we my brother and I
Speaker 1: got to talk to him on Christmas Day and he
Speaker 1: says that he told us that he's writing a book
Speaker 1: and he's so hopefully he's going to disclose some of
Speaker 1: the things he was never able to tell us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably so much that he wasn't allowed to
Speaker 2: tell you if he actually was connected. That's just that
Speaker 2: goes with the territory. It does. The next question is
Speaker 2: from Nausea fourteen, and Nausea wants to know, I'm horrified
Speaker 2: that people in the mobile home ignored your plea for help.
Speaker 2: Did you ever encounter them again? And I agree, Naja,
Speaker 2: that's horrible. Shame on them.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I was screaming on at deaf ears, you know, and
Speaker 1: I felt really I felt really upset at you know,
Speaker 1: after I got home, and to question why wouldn't they
Speaker 1: open the door, you know, and help me? And the
Speaker 1: only answer that I can come up with is that
Speaker 1: you know, they knew what was down there, and they
Speaker 1: want to get pulled into any kind of controversy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still they could have caused a little kid
Speaker 2: to be killed out there because of their inaction, the
Speaker 2: refusal to let you in. Shame on them. I don't
Speaker 2: care what their concerns were you were in dire need
Speaker 2: of assistance and they just turned the cold shoulder. So,
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, shame on them. Looks like
Speaker 2: Fred Caserta has the last question of the night. He
Speaker 2: wants to know did the dog man or sasquatch breathe heavily?
Speaker 1: When the dog man screamed on me, screamed at me
Speaker 1: so loud and so hard that the hair on my
Speaker 1: head was being blown back and I was getting spit
Speaker 1: on my face from this creature's mouth.
Speaker 3: What was the question about Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Well, he was wondering if they're breathing heavily, the dog
Speaker 2: men or sasquatch, if they're breathing heavily like they're out
Speaker 2: of breath, like they'd been running. No, no, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: another one of those things where some dog men do
Speaker 2: that when they encounter I witnesses, and others don't. Others
Speaker 2: you don't hear them breathe for the most part. So yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no rhyme nor reason on that. Well, before we
Speaker 2: get out, if you're Todd, do you have any closes
Speaker 2: in comments you'd like to put out there for us?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
Speaker 1: Thank the host you Vick and the people that were
Speaker 1: tuned in tonight with their great questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did do a great job, a lot of
Speaker 2: really good questions. Well, having said that, Todd, I can't
Speaker 2: thank you enough for coming on sharing the details of
Speaker 2: these experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much for
Speaker 2: your time, and have a great night. All right, everybody,
Speaker 2: before we get out of here, just a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Don't forget tomorrow night special live stream episode of the
Speaker 2: show where Cam's going to come back on and bring
Speaker 2: all of us up to speed and all these crazy
Speaker 2: things that have been happening. And the second part is
Speaker 2: if you've had a Dogman encounter of your own and
Speaker 2: will like to come on the show and share it
Speaker 2: with the listeners, or maybe you don't have an interest
Speaker 2: in coming on the show, maybe you just need help
Speaker 2: dealing with it, coming to terms with it, and neither case,
Speaker 2: please go to Dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and
Speaker 2: if you do that, then I'll be more than happy
Speaker 2: to schedule a phone consultation with you so we can
Speaker 2: find out what's ailing you and get you back to
Speaker 2: good and by the way too. If you've had a
Speaker 2: sasquatch sighting and we'd like to be a guest on
Speaker 2: my bigfoot Sighting via my Bigfoot Sighting podcast that I
Speaker 2: produce also in addition to Dogman Encounters here, please go
Speaker 2: to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com submit a guest request,
Speaker 2: and I'll reach out to you to get that set up. So,
Speaker 2: having said all that, thanks again so much for listening
Speaker 2: to everyone, and have a great night.