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<v Speaker 2>Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks again

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<v Speaker 2>so much for joining us for another livestream episode of

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<v Speaker 2>the show. I really appreciate it. Hopefully everyone's new year

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<v Speaker 2>is off to a great start as well. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>this year, like I said in the last show, was

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<v Speaker 2>much better than last year was, which that wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 2>too much doing because last year wasn't all that great

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<v Speaker 2>for all lot of us. But anyway, moving forward, Before

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<v Speaker 2>I bring on tonight's guest, I just wanted to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know that I'm gonna hear a special Saturday night

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<v Speaker 2>live stream episode of the show tomorrow night, gonna bring

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<v Speaker 2>Cam back on. Cam reached out to me, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>what two weeks ago or so, maybe three, to let

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<v Speaker 2>me know about all the updates he had for me.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot has happened since we spoke last and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna come on tomorrow night to bring you all

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<v Speaker 2>up to speed on everything that he's been through. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been through a lot, to say the least. So Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark calllendars, don't forget tomorrow night, nine pm Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be back to do that. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks as always for listening. But for tonight's show, tonight's

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<v Speaker 2>guest Todd Tidwell, he's going to talk about some experiences

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<v Speaker 2>he had as a kid. Most of his experiences weren't

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<v Speaker 2>with dog men worth a dog man, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>most of them were with a sasquatch or with sasquatch plural.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, maybe it was a good thing that

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<v Speaker 2>he had those sasquatch encounters before he had his dog

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<v Speaker 2>made an encounter. But instead of putting words into us mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>let's bring him in here and find out. Todd, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for joining us. Hi, Well, we really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you coming on and spending the night with us. We

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<v Speaker 2>really do. Todd, please give us a brief file on yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in East Sacramento County, California, about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes from the Gold Country. That's the Foothills. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Lower Basin, growing up in the San

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<v Speaker 1>Juaquin Valley. I have a twin brother and two older sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>and a mom and dad and we grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>about thirteen acres. The property's adjacent to us were larger

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<v Speaker 1>fifty acres.

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<v Speaker 3>Or more, and it was it was a good life.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds to me like it was a good life.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say that your crypted encounters tainted your childhood

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<v Speaker 2>at least to a certain degree, or would you say

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I had pretty much repressed the events

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<v Speaker 1>that had happened until I was in my late twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once in a while I remember some of

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<v Speaker 1>the instances that happened, and then they would get stored

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<v Speaker 1>away back in the back of my brain somewhere. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's only now that I'm older, I'm much older, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're on my mind always.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can understand why they would be. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I asked you. That is, for most people, when

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<v Speaker 2>they're asked what the worst thing they had to go

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<v Speaker 2>through and deal with as a kid was, most of

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<v Speaker 2>the I will tell you losing a parent, or for

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<v Speaker 2>some it was having a bike stolen or something simple

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Of course, losing appearance not in that category,

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<v Speaker 2>but having a bike stolen that's pretty lightweight compared to

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<v Speaker 2>other things that could happen. When you're a kid. But

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<v Speaker 2>for you, if someone asked you that question, you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell them that you were a chased home in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night by a dog man in the

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<v Speaker 2>wee hours on a lonely road. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 2>just something that no kid should ever have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>That's horrible, it really is. So that's why I was

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<v Speaker 2>asking if you you think your encounters tainted your childhood

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<v Speaker 2>at least to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to a certain degree. I didn't that, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I got through. I got through it

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty much unscathed, except for the terror that I experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can only imagine the tear you experienced. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that is rough, especially at that age. Well, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your childhood. In seventy nine, you had your first

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<v Speaker 2>cryptid sighting. But it wasn't a dog man. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch. Please tell us what happened that day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a late spring of seventy nine and I

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<v Speaker 1>was around ten years old best I can remember, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother and I were playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ball with just a ball in bat out in the

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<v Speaker 3>We was a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Years older and while we're practicing baseball, we stirred up

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<v Speaker 1>a pheasant and my older friend was the one at bat,

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<v Speaker 1>and he actually threw the baseball bat in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the pheasant and downed it. And we were quite excited,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're cheering and jeering pretty loudly, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, on our about ten acres something jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>and my brother and I were like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we couldn't figure well at first we thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we thought, but we just knew

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<v Speaker 1>we thought it was human. When we asked our older friend,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that, and he replied casually, Oh, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>wild man. And my brother and I were like, wild man,

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck's a wild man? And I watched this

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<v Speaker 1>thing running down the fence line and it wasn't moving

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<v Speaker 1>up and down like you would think a person would run.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of seemed like it was riding a bicycle

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<v Speaker 1>the fluid motion it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Having, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad showed up from work shortly after, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could still see this wild man in the distance

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty acres away, and we motioned to our dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad come here, come here. Look, it's a wild man.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad was trying to look off into the distance.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't see much, and then he motioned for a

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<v Speaker 1>older friend, uh, and they like were talking to each other, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad didn't say anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, And then our attention got back to the

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<v Speaker 1>down pheasant that that happened about, and meant before.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Wow, Todd, that's some pretty lethal aim. If he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to throw that bat and hit that pheasant,

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<v Speaker 2>how close was he to it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, you know, pheasant, he can get right up

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<v Speaker 1>on him before they before they'll scare, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>make a run for it. He'd probably we'd probably been

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<v Speaker 1>on top of it during the whole duration of our

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<v Speaker 1>baseball game before it came to a really strange conclude ending.

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<v Speaker 2>See Okay, yeah he was that close then that would

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<v Speaker 2>definitely explain a lot. Did your dad put in to

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<v Speaker 2>effect certain rules after that experience, after he saw that

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<v Speaker 2>wild man off in the distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if he knew the family that

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly it was, but I know that he was

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<v Speaker 1>concerned when he heard the word man. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>thought somebody might have been on our property that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been there. There are a whole lot of no

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<v Speaker 1>trespassing signs in the area where I grew up, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as curfews, we had to be home at dinner time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'm glad you're still able to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and do all the things you normally did then. And

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like it didn't traumatize you. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>you're still interested in going out and joining yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's hard to keep kids down, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you have all that acred to play on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, normally that's the case, but when most kids see

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<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch, then yeah, that tends to change things. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just glad that it didn't affect you that way. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>goodness for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, where you know, we were so busy doing other things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure we finally soon forgot about the

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<v Speaker 1>whole incident. Whether we're playing soccer or baseball or fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had all kinds of things to do, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the memory of that soon faded had we got

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<v Speaker 1>active doing other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one of the great things about growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in an environment like that, You can go out and

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<v Speaker 2>fish and do things out in the outdoors. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons why I think that's about

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to grow up. All right, Todd, please

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about your dog meting encounter. Now give us

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<v Speaker 2>every last detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>That experience was in spring of nineteen eighty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thirteen years old, and some of the kids

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<v Speaker 1>in school that day, we're talking about one of their

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<v Speaker 1>parents was going to be out of town or both

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<v Speaker 1>of their parents were going to be out of town

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<v Speaker 1>on a I guess a vacation, and so it gave

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<v Speaker 1>us some of us an opportunity to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>friend's house where there was going to be no adult supervision.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I always didn't make the best decisions

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<v Speaker 1>when I was young growing. So I told him i'd

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<v Speaker 1>be there, and so early that evening, I pulled my

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<v Speaker 1>and staged it by my window where I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to crawl out of that night, and when my parents

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody was asleep in my house, I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak out and go to my friends whose parents

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<v Speaker 1>were out of town. And uh I did. I did

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<v Speaker 1>just that. Around midnight, I creeped out I crawled out

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<v Speaker 1>my window rather and headed in the direction where my

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<v Speaker 1>and about halfway on the way there, I was hearing

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<v Speaker 1>some real, real peculiar sounds, like like some screams and

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<v Speaker 1>some some uh, just noises that I I didn't normally

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<v Speaker 1>hear because it was in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the middle of the night, I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't let that deter me. So I'm riding

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<v Speaker 3>to my friend's house.

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<v Speaker 1>And about halfway there, my bicycle tires went flat. The

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<v Speaker 1>air had come out of them, and uh again, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't deter me. And so I'm riding with flat tires

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the way to my friend's house.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I finally got there.

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<v Speaker 1>We just, you know, we're just we're having fun without

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<v Speaker 1>any adult supervision. And that was kind of a kick

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<v Speaker 1>for me, you know, because it was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever done anything like that. So as things

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<v Speaker 1>started to wind down, it was about maybe three am,

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to start heading home. With my bicycle tires

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<v Speaker 1>being flat, I was gonna be riding. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>riding with no air in your tires and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>just pretty much basically on.

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<v Speaker 3>Your rims of your bicycle. So I started heading.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to my house around three am, and about three

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<v Speaker 3>This hill, this pretty steep hill.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was starting to descend down this hill,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed in the proper in the property to the

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of the driveway of this estate. And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw three objects standing like in a little huddle, it

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<v Speaker 1>the noise got their attention, and they at at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, all three of these objects that were standing

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<v Speaker 1>wake up pretty early, especially to dairy farmers. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as I started.

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<v Speaker 1>To send down the hill even more, two of the

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<v Speaker 1>and then once stayed there, stationed but focused at me, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, intent intentively.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>When the two objects ran in my direction, in the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I was heading, Uh, they cat what I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a partial moon that night, and but.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't too after that, I wasn't too concerned about

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<v Speaker 3>I was made mostly concerned about the one.

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<v Speaker 1>That stayed that was intentively uh, looking in my direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just start to proceed in my direction. And

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew that this thing was going to head

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<v Speaker 1>me off so called at the path. So all I

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<v Speaker 1>for this collisions. You know, almost is what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder of the road and on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road there was a ditch and then a fence. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this creature, now that I'm thinking this is some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creature, came right up to it to approach that fence,

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<v Speaker 1>that fence line, and all I could think of to

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<v Speaker 1>do was take my two index fingers and make a

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<v Speaker 1>cross out of them, okay, and start reciting the Lord's Prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought I was a goner. And as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I did that, this creature, which now was close

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a huge werewold.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. It's head was like three feet wide.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a snout, it had a harry chess, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like a dog would have, and it had these

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<v Speaker 1>arms that weren't that big, but they were arms okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And teeth, oh my gosh. The muzzle was just full

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<v Speaker 3>of teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>And a few of them were really sharp, a nine

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<v Speaker 1>looking okay from the top and bottom bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing there making across out of my two index fingers,

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<v Speaker 1>saying the Lord's prairie, and it stopped it in its tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and it was so upset with me when it

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<v Speaker 1>was screaming at me. I was so close that I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting spit on my face from this creature's mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>and not not worrying about where it was, I just

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<v Speaker 1>started peddling, peddling again in the direction of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that I would be totally terrified. I was totally terrified,

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<v Speaker 3>but when I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Home and thought about what had just happened, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that was surely going to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I waited till dawn before I went on to

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<v Speaker 1>my property because of these two shadow figures that were

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<v Speaker 1>going in the direction that I was. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>these two shadow figures go into my backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I.

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<v Speaker 1>Waited till dawn before I proceeded onto my property. And

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<v Speaker 1>once the que started getting bright enough, I went down

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<v Speaker 1>my driveway, parked my bike into the bushes along near

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<v Speaker 1>our garage, and I crawled back through my window. And

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<v Speaker 1>at about six thirty maybe seven am, my brother came into.

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<v Speaker 3>My room and he has to be where have you been,

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<v Speaker 3>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I told him exactly what had happened the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him about the werewolf, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rolled his eyes, and then he told me, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>better be going to school today. And I told him

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<v Speaker 1>that after what had happened to me last night and

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<v Speaker 1>me being up all night.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way I'm going to school today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wouldn't call it a luxury, But my parents

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<v Speaker 1>would leave for work before I would go and catch

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, so I knew that, and that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>decided how I wasn't going to go to school that day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my dog experience. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>did feel like I had somehow defeated this thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with my religious police at the time, and that's my

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<v Speaker 1>dog man experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Consider how it responded when you revoked it, rebuked it,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, do you think that means that it

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely a demonic entity or something else?

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<v Speaker 3>It had to have been.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to have been, because it's when I did

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<v Speaker 1>that it stopped it in its tracks, and the anger

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<v Speaker 1>and theory that it had that it seemed like that

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't approach any closer, you know, And I chalked

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<v Speaker 1>it up to doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and believing in my beliefs and religion that

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<v Speaker 3>got me through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Were there any other points in that experience where it

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<v Speaker 2>was close enough to grab you but didn't before you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was about maybe fifteen feet from where it was,

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<v Speaker 1>It couldn't, really, it wasn't. The arms weren't long enough

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out and grab me. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the term rebuked it, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew at that time that I had stopped it

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<v Speaker 1>in its tracks and it wasn't going to proceed any further.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank goodness you did that. I'm wondering though most kids,

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<v Speaker 2>after having experience like that that was so traumatic, they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even give a second thought ever going outside again

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<v Speaker 2>to play. But you did. You were still able to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and play in do normal things that kids

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<v Speaker 2>would do. What do you think it is about your

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<v Speaker 2>makeup that enabled you to do that, to handle that

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<v Speaker 2>experience so well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that I had repressed the memory.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you go through any kind of trauma

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<v Speaker 1>like that a lot of times and even in my

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<v Speaker 1>case that you you just repress the memory. And also too,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of things going on, even at

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<v Speaker 1>that early age.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice, you know, school exams, you know, a girlfriend or two.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there was other things on my mind after that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, encounter that I thought, probably.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, were more important than recalling that that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can appreciate the fact you had all that

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<v Speaker 2>going on, But even though you did have all those

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<v Speaker 2>things going on, the fact that you're still able to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and be business as usual as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that shows you have a lot of sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Most kids, even if they had all those things going on,

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<v Speaker 2>would just be mortified. They just wouldn't even give a

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<v Speaker 2>second thought ever going back outside to play. But you did,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank goodness, you dealt with it so well. You

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<v Speaker 2>deserve a lot of credit for that. You really do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I have dealt with it that

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<v Speaker 4>well or you know, because if in fact I had

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<v Speaker 4>repressed the experience, then I wouldn't have even thought about

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<v Speaker 4>it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I can appreciate that, but I mean, most

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<v Speaker 2>people wouldn't have been able to repress it and still

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<v Speaker 2>be able to live their lives the way they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever you needed to do to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>move forward, you did so. Yeah, thank goodness for that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when you said it was about fifteen feet from you

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<v Speaker 2>when you rebuked it, it was so close that you

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<v Speaker 2>said blue spit on you. What was it doing with

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<v Speaker 2>its arms?

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<v Speaker 1>They were just they were docile, you know, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much of any movement at all. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned about its mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can understand why you were more concerned about

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<v Speaker 2>its mouth. How good of a look did you get

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<v Speaker 2>at its teeth?

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<v Speaker 3>I got a real good look at its teeth. There

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<v Speaker 3>was almost like it was in three D.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the big snout, the big nose, and then

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<v Speaker 1>huge canine and the back teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they were all there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure they were. Were you able to see

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<v Speaker 2>if it had one row of teeth or two?

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<v Speaker 3>It had definitely had two rows of teeth and a

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<v Speaker 3>big tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That must have really freaked you out and understand.

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<v Speaker 2>So was there anything unusual about the spacing of its teeth?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, all I can remember was that they

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<v Speaker 1>were large, really large. The top row you could see

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<v Speaker 1>like the uh, the inside, the insiders, and then these

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<v Speaker 1>huge like cane I.

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<v Speaker 3>T I see.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I asked that is some of my

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<v Speaker 2>witnesses report seeing teeth that look fairly similar to just

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<v Speaker 2>normal canine teeth, while others say that the teeth looked

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<v Speaker 2>like what you'd see in the shark's mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, or an alligator yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or an alligator yeah. So that's why I asked that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just wondering about that before we move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to thank Gabriel Hawkins for your donation.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciated Gabriel. Thank you so much. Moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>their Todd, can you think of anything that you might

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<v Speaker 2>have done that night on that ride home that might

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<v Speaker 2>have triggered the dog men to come after you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just that I might have interrupted what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>along that creek with a small bridge that went across it,

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<v Speaker 1>that I had interrupted them, all right, the dog man

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<v Speaker 1>which I was referring it to, were wolf and the

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<v Speaker 1>two other of the two other I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they were today.

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<v Speaker 3>I just know that they were casting really long shadows.

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<v Speaker 1>But I definitely interrupted them with the sounds of my

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<v Speaker 1>bike riding on the flat tires.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was making a racket.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what they were doing in the woods there

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<v Speaker 2>when you came by. I don't think that anything you

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<v Speaker 2>did triggered them, but then again I wasn't there to know,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, maybe there was something that you did to

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<v Speaker 2>set them off. But thank goodness, you rebuked that dog

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<v Speaker 2>me in and the experience ended the way it did.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hate the fact, like I said, you had

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<v Speaker 2>to go all this. I mean, no kids should have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with that. No adult should. So that's horrible,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is. You said your friend lived about four

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<v Speaker 2>miles from you. Was it remote the whole way there

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<v Speaker 2>or did you have to go through developed areas?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, it was pretty whiral, and there was a property like.

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<v Speaker 1>Every ten sometimes twenty acres, so that's roughly an eighth

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<v Speaker 1>of a mile to a quarter mile in between.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like it was pretty remote. Then when

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<v Speaker 2>all this was going on, I know you had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on your mind, but can you remember, by chance

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<v Speaker 2>if all the ambient noises stopped or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh when this where Woll screamed at me, I had

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<v Speaker 1>lost my hearing. It was so loud. So after it

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<v Speaker 1>had screamed at me, all I could hear was ringing

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<v Speaker 1>in my ear, and you know, I was all I

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<v Speaker 1>could think.

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<v Speaker 3>I was great. Now I'm going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>To tell my dad where I was last night and

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<v Speaker 1>why my hearing's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it take long for that hearing to come back?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it came back. As soon as I got to

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<v Speaker 1>my property and was waiting for the dawn. I slowly

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<v Speaker 1>started to get my hearing back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank goodness, which was.

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<v Speaker 3>A relief for me, because no harm, no foul, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank goodness, that would have caused problems if it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever get a good enough look at its

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<v Speaker 2>back to see if it had a tail or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see a tail. I could see a tail.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I had a front of you. I could

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<v Speaker 1>see its tail. It would have been able to hit

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<v Speaker 1>on my right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a really big tail, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Big like a husky would have a husky dog, but

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<v Speaker 1>way bigger, but fluffy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I see. Well, it sounds like you did a really

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<v Speaker 2>good job noticing details on this dog man. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>would have shut down and they would have been doing

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<v Speaker 2>good to know their own name. But you took in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, which is admirable. That's impressive. How about its claws?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of claws did it have?

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<v Speaker 1>They had huge dog hair like dog hands with big

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<v Speaker 1>nails by claw, but the arms weren't very long at all.

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<v Speaker 2>From the way you describe it. Oh, I'm sorry, please continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't extend it forward much.

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<v Speaker 2>From the way you describe the claws. Do they have

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<v Speaker 2>any hooks to them, kind of like a black bear's

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<v Speaker 2>claws where it looked like they were made for climbing

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<v Speaker 2>trees or were they street or.

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<v Speaker 3>They were curved.

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<v Speaker 1>They had some curve to them, and it even had

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<v Speaker 1>like the dew claw, which would be like if I

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<v Speaker 1>were to take my hands and put them out, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be the clause would be like where my thumbs are.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only on the back legs, but on its

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<v Speaker 2>arms as well, on its hands, it had d claws. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I see, Okay, that makes sense for everyone listening in

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<v Speaker 2>the live chat. If you'd like to start typing out

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<v Speaker 2>your questions for Todd, please be sure to type them

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<v Speaker 2>in all caps so I don't miss them before I

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<v Speaker 2>get to those. Though, we've got a little bit further

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<v Speaker 2>to go with the questions. Moving on, Todd, in our

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00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 2>conversations behind the scenes, you basically the first time we spoke,

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<v Speaker 2>you gave me the impression that the sasquatch experience I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you to tell us about next just

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<v Speaker 2>might have been more traumatizing to you than what the

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<v Speaker 2>dogman the encounter was. Is that accurate? Which one was

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<v Speaker 2>was more frightening for you?

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<v Speaker 3>The Satashquot Society is the big Foot?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I can understand why. When you talked about

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<v Speaker 2>how it actually affected you and what you did right

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00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.039
<v Speaker 2>after you had it, Well, let's get to that one now.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell us all the details about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, This would be.

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<v Speaker 1>In the summer of nineteen eighty three and I was

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old and I had go I had gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the river that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone to the river, which is a mile from my house,

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<v Speaker 1>the day before that. But when I got to the river,

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<v Speaker 1>there was my older my neighbor who was like four

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<v Speaker 1>years five years older than I was at the time,

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00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and he had his girlfriend with him. So once I

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<v Speaker 1>recognized that, I elected to go back home. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the very next day I went back to the

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00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>river and it was just me. I thought, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that there wasn't going to be anybody

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00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>else there. As I approached the river, there was this

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<v Speaker 1>mobile home about fifty yards from where I entered the river,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was used as like the caretaker of the

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00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>property was living there and they were an older couple.

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<v Speaker 3>But this this time I was down there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a newer trailer and the old couple that

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the trailer before that were gone, and there

513
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was a little kid playing with like his little Tonka

514
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>trucks out out in front, and he saw that I

515
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 1>had my towel, and I was in my swim trunck and.

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<v Speaker 3>He said to me, you can't go down there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's monsters down there, and I kind of chuckled, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did chuckle it monsters huh. And then that's when

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00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 1>his mother opened the door to the trailer and motioned

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00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>him inside, and I looked over at his mom. I said,

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00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.759
<v Speaker 1>monsters huh. And I was just being jokingly about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I proceeded down the fifty yards down to the

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<v Speaker 1>entrance where I get into the river, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>walking upstream. Well, I got about maybe twenty yards upstream

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<v Speaker 1>and on the opposite side of the river where the

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<v Speaker 1>levee is, some rocks started getting thrown at me and

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<v Speaker 1>they were being arcd over the levee in my direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually got hit by one of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the rocks that I got hit with with about the

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<v Speaker 1>size of the silver dollar. It hit me in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I automatically fought that day. There were some of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends that had beat me to the river that

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00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 1>day and were trying to push me out. You know,

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00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>you know how sometimes kids are cruel, and so not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to get hit by another rock, I just turned

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<v Speaker 1>to my right and went up the river bank all

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<v Speaker 1>into the levee road, which was a two track road.

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00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was pretty upset at the time, thinking, wow,

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00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought I had better friends than that,

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00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and so I started walking in the direction of that

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<v Speaker 1>mobile home. And then I turned around and said, you

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00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm not going to let these guys do

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00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>this to me. So I turned around and started heading

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<v Speaker 1>right where I got out of the river. And as

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00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 1>I did that, something came up from the river bank

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<v Speaker 1>that terrified me. It it had a large head and

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00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 1>big black marble eyes. I don't remember seeing the ears,

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00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 1>but the head was kind of square, it wasn't conical,

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00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 1>and it had some hair on it, Okay, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a head of cabbage that was flattened down.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. That's the only way I could explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what terrified me the most was the skin color,

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<v Speaker 1>because at that time I had watched the movie The

554
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<v Speaker 1>Extrasist and the actress the name in that movie, her

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00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>name was Raven, and when she was possessionally had this

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<v Speaker 1>color the skin that resembled what I.

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00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Was looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>And every line on this creature's face, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>the two laugh lines on either side of its mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the lines that were on its forehead were

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00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a bright red okay.

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00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Its nose was pug pugged, kind of like.

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<v Speaker 1>A pig snout, but not as big, okay, not like

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00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the size of a pig snout, but it was pugged okay.

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00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And its mouth with it went almost from from it

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00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just went from one side of the face to the other,

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00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like it was like.

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00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>A trap, a trap jaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Really big teeth and there were some uh K nine

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00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 1>type type teeth that were that were sharp, but like sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>both on the upper and lower bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>And the chest was really big. And I only saw

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<v Speaker 3>this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>From uh the upper torso up and and the the

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00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:29.519
<v Speaker 1>winketh of.

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00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 3>The shoulders were really wide, way wider than mine. I

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00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't determine if this thing was that old or

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<v Speaker 1>that young, Okay. All I knew is that I thought

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00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>it was some kind of demon okay.

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00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 3>And I was so.

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00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Taken back by this thing that I started back pedaling

583
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 1>backwards and I fell, and because I was still wet

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00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 1>from getting down of the river, I fell into the

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00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 1>two track road which was mostly still There was some

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00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 1>sand but mostly silt, and I had this all over

587
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my wet body. When I got up and turned to run,

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00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>my legs felt like they were about two hundred pounds each.

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00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't move, and so taking my right and left

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00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>hand on my right leg, I was picking my leg up,

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00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 1>get it to move, you know, move forward.

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00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 3>And finally I got movement in my leg and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Started running to that mobile home that wasn't very far away.

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00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was banging on this trailer as hard as

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00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I could, and my mouth was so dry I could

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00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>barely get any words out, and I was yelling, please

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00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>help me, let me in, Please help me. And you

598
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 1>know what, I wasn't going to get any help because

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00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that lady wasn't going to open her door for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that kid that said you can't go down there,

601
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 1>there's monitors down there, well he wasn't lying. They must

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<v Speaker 1>have known something that I didn't obviously, so I knew

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00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't going to get any.

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00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Help from them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started down the dirt road that I came

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00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 1>up on from my street from the asphalt, and when

607
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I almost got to the asphalt, I noticed that the

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<v Speaker 1>irrigation ditches were full, and they're like three foot irrigation ditches.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only thing that was in between me and

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<v Speaker 1>the irrigation ditch was a barbed bar fence. So I

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00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 1>went in between the barbed wires and got into the

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00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>irrigation ditch because by now the silt had started drying

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<v Speaker 1>on me like stucco, so I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get silt.

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00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 3>This dried silt off me as fast as I could.

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00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 3>And then I don't know what got my.

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00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Attention, but I looked towards the levee of the river

618
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>again and I saw this huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Silhouette. I didn't see much detail about.

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00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 1>All I could see was this big youthe head, the

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00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>huge rake, the shoulder that were like about four feet wide,

622
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>big arms, big muscles, a big barrel chest, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the upper torso where the chested went down to the

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00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 1>waist like a tapered and then these two huge legs

625
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 1>that looked like they were tree trunks. And in my mind,

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00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>this is what I heard. I heard, you better get

627
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 1>out of here right now before you can't, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't my voice I was saying this. This was

629
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 1>something that wasn't my voice that I was hearing, and

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<v Speaker 1>so not being able to get all this dry silt

631
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<v Speaker 1>off me. I got up and went in between the

632
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>barbed wires again and back onto the dirt road, which

633
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen yards from the asphalt. And I had put

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00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 1>my arms out and my hands up, and it said okay.

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00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, okay, I'm leaving and terrified, right terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing I could say to rebuke this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard what I heard, and I believed, I believed

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<v Speaker 1>it to be true.

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<v Speaker 3>So I left there. I got onto the asphalt road

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<v Speaker 3>and started heading home. Now, remember I have a mile.

641
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 1>To walk still, and I got about an eighth of

642
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a mile in the direction of my house, and then

643
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I heard something approaching on the other side of the road,

644
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the fence. And I couldn't

645
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>see it though, but I could. I could hear it approaching,

646
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 1>and I.

647
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Could see it.

648
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 1>It's football because the weeds that were growing they were

649
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>moving with the steps of this thing that I can't see.

650
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And I jumped out of my out of my skin again.

651
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I literally jumped up in the air, scared.

652
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And about the same time a farmer came right and

653
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>by it old farm truck, and I swear if pot

654
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 1>farmer had taken a look at me.

655
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>He could tell something was wrong.

656
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So I kept I kept walking and I and this

657
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>time I had lost my flip flops.

658
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, So it's summertime.

659
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, a hot asphalt road is nothing, nothing fun, okay.

660
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So I had to walk on the very the very

661
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>edge of the street where the where the weeds.

662
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Were growing to keep my feet from burning.

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00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Finally I made it home, okay, And I must have

664
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 1>looked like, uh, looked like hell Okay.

665
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 3>I was in shock, and uh.

666
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.599
<v Speaker 1>All I wanted to do was get onto my property,

667
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>to the back of the house where the spit there

668
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was a spickett and a hose and start rinsing off.

669
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 1>And not only was I rinsing off this dried silk

670
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 1>that was on my body, but I was also were

671
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>washing off this stink. The stench that I had, and

672
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 1>how I described the smell was like the rotting meat,

673
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a skunk, but it wasn't a skunk,

674
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>but it was pung up like a skunk and the

675
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>bottom of a garbage can in summertime. And so I

676
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>rinsed off. And then now I'm left with my swim trunks,

677
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>which stunk. I'm sure they stunk too, because I went

678
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>into the barn and I had stripped down and I

679
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 1>had shoved my clothes and between a couple of bills

680
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 1>of hey that we had left.

681
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Over from the season before.

682
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 1>And then I because I didn't want my dad to

683
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 1>know that I was at the river, so I hid

684
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>my swim trunks, and then I went and rinsed off

685
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 1>one more time with the spickett, and then I went

686
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to the house and then I took and I washed

687
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 1>up in the shower, and I like rinsed a louder

688
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.119
<v Speaker 1>rints and repeated like twice. Okay, because I didn't on

689
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 1>any signs of anything that I had to explain to

690
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 1>my dad when he got home from work. I went

691
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>into my bedroom and I just waited, okay, and still

692
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 1>in shock, I'm sure when he came home, he came

693
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>into my bedroom and to ask me how my day was,

694
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and I broke down, and so he sat at the

695
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>edge of my bed with me, and then I proceeded

696
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to explain to him that I was at the river

697
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and that I knew I wasn't supposed to be down there,

698
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and the reason why I wasn't supposed to be down

699
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.119
<v Speaker 1>there is because he had he had given us instructions

700
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>before because I had gotten cut down there on some

701
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>barbed wire and I had to get stitched up. So

702
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 1>if that was the reason why he told us never

703
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to go back down to the river, maybe he did

704
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 1>know about something that was.

705
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Going on, not only on our our property.

706
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 1>But I just have a feeling my dad knew about

707
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 1>these things, especially since we told him about the wild man,

708
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 1>and if he believed, if he believed that to be true,

709
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's one of the reasons why he didn't want.

710
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Us going back down to the river again.

711
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure he could still tell that I was

712
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>in shock, and you know what, he didn't scold me.

713
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get in any kind of trouble.

714
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 1>He just told me to rest, you know, rest up, okay,

715
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>because he can tell that I've been through it. Okay,

716
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been through it, and you know, I never heard

717
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 1>anything else about that.

718
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 3>But very next day.

719
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Around it was a couple hours before lunchtime, so I'd say,

720
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>around ten o'clock in the morning, I'm in the garage

721
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 1>and our garage door faces our street. I saw two

722
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>two what looked like government vehicles go down our street.

723
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 1>One of them got to the vehicles, and I don't

724
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>know if they were Bureau of Land Management, but they

725
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>were newer trucks and they were step side and they

726
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 1>looked like Forestreet trucks, but they were painted like forestry trucks.

727
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 3>And I say they looked like Forestreet trucks because.

728
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 1>They were well, we'll drive, and they had the skinny tires,

729
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they had these camper shells that had

730
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 1>a door in the back where the tailgate would be,

731
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and they were painted this bluish gray color.

732
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 3>And there was two of them, one parked over there.

733
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Next to my property and the other one kept going

734
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>straight down the road down towards the river. And I

735
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 1>just thought that that looks real peculiar. Those must be

736
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>government trucks.

737
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And you know my dad's employment.

738
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>At one time, my dad held credentials with local law enforcement.

739
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:56.559
<v Speaker 1>He went to the FBI academy, he was in the OSI,

740
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and he spent some time with the CIA. So when

741
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 1>he was in the o SI and for those listeners

742
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.679
<v Speaker 1>who don't know what OSI is, its Office of Special Investigations. Now,

743
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a bigfoot sign constitute constitutes a

744
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>office a special investigations team to come out. But I

745
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, I believe that my dad might have

746
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>contacted some of his colleagues and they went to go

747
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>investigate what had happened to me the day before.

748
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 2>He just might have been connected. From what I understand,

749
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>he did something after that day that maybe, so you

750
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 2>hopefully wouldn't have any more experiences like that. Please expand

751
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.159
<v Speaker 2>on that. For us.

752
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>The followings early summer, or it might have been the

753
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>early fall of that same year, we had built in

754
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>swimming pool put in so there would be no more,

755
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>no reason at all that I would have to go

756
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 1>back to the river to cool off. We had our

757
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 1>own pool.

758
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah, he.

759
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Knew what he was doing. Yeah, that worked with me too.

760
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.599
<v Speaker 2>I'd spend the whole summer there right by the pool, so.

761
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 3>I did.

762
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't say I blame you there. That was

763
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a good move. And what in the world's going on

764
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>with that dead looking sasquatch. I mean, I can understand

765
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of adaptations they might have, but having greenish

766
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 2>looking skin, bluish greenish looking skin like you'd see on

767
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>a corpse, that's really hard to understand and wrap your

768
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>mind around. I just I can't see the advantage to

769
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 2>having skin that looks like I just like that. I

770
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>just wonder why it looked that way. That's so weird.

771
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think I've ever heard of any counter

772
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>with that colored skin. Usually i've heard that they're like black,

773
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>they look black or mostly black.

774
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, normally that's how it is. But now with that

775
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>one that you saw, maybe something was wrong with it.

776
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 2>It's just hard to know. All we can do is

777
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>guess on that. Well, let's get to some of the

778
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>questions from the live chat here. The first one is

779
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 2>a general question from Christi Anne. She wants to know

780
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>if dog men have rabies. Well, that's something we can

781
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>only guess at. Mammals can get rabies, but our dog

782
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 2>men just run to the mill mammals. I mean, there

783
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of things that point soundly towards them

784
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>not being just typical flesh and blood creatures that are

785
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>out there trying to scratch out a living. There is

786
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of evidence that points towards them possibly having

787
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>demonic ties. We don't know that for sure, but if

788
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 2>that's a case, I don't think that rabies is even

789
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>a consideration for them. This next question is from Gabriel

790
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Hawkins and Gabe wants to know, Vic, whatever happened to

791
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 2>the guest who was in a coma?

792
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

793
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>That really is a sad situation there. That's the eyewitness

794
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I was telling you guys about maybe four or five

795
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 2>months ago. I think it was where what that guy

796
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>went through as a kid, he had a dog men

797
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>come up and do something horrible to him. I don't

798
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>want to go into the details in case he does

799
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>pull out of his condition, his illness. I'm not sure

800
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>if he's even alive now. The last time I checked

801
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>in on him, his mother responded to my text and

802
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 2>let me know that he was still in the coma,

803
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 2>a medically induced coma, I believe it was. I thought

804
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 2>about reaching out again, but I was kind of afraid

805
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 2>to because what if she lost him, lost her son,

806
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and then here's this stranger asking questions. I was hoping

807
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 2>he would have recovered from it, but I really don't know.

808
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>For that reason, I can't tell you. The next question

809
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 2>is from Michigan meat eater, and his question is how

810
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 2>close do you live to this area now? And have

811
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you had any other strange experiences or noises as an adult.

812
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Since then? I moved to southern California. My parents sold

813
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a ranch and I hadn't heard any strange noises like that,

814
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 1>and I live in the city limits of San Diego.

815
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank goodness you haven't had any other experiences. Hope

816
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 2>it stays that way. Carlito's Way ninety three CC wants

817
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to know what color eyes did it have?

818
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 3>They had big black, marble looking eyes.

819
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Were they kind of like the sharks? Or did you

820
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>see some whites around.

821
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Them like a shark? That's a good way to explain.

822
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 2>It, okay, I see. The next one on deck is

823
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.519
<v Speaker 2>from Anne Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, are

824
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 2>you an identical twin or for eternal?

825
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm a paternal We're called mirror twins. I'm right handed

826
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and my twin is left handed. It's like looking into

827
00:49:59.440 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a mirror.

828
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I never heard of that before. Well that's interesting.

829
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And speaking of your twin, I need to see if

830
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I can get a hold of him. That'd be a

831
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 2>great way to get some dirt on you, to get

832
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 2>some good stories, wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that to

833
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you for all you know. Let's see the next question

834
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>is from Andre's Carasales, and Andres wants to know did

835
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 2>anything seem off before or after the encounter?

836
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 3>This morning?

837
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Well before the dog man encountered, I was, uh, while

838
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I was pedaling to my friend's house, I was hearing

839
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 1>sounds along the river bank, because we're where the encounter

840
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>took place. The river was about it was about, uh,

841
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe a half a mile from the street that I

842
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>was on, and I was hearing some really strange sounds.

843
00:50:56.119 --> 00:51:00.119
<v Speaker 1>But I was just I was had a one track

844
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 1>mine to get to my friend's house where there was

845
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 1>no adult supervision. You know, I wasn't gonna let the

846
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>really strange noises sidefacked me.

847
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you were a tough kid, that's for sure. Yeah,

848
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.280
<v Speaker 2>that would have derailed a lot of kids, no doubt

849
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 2>about that. This next question is from d Truth and

850
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 2>D wants to know. Hello, Vic and Todd. Any idea

851
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 2>on the height and weight of the dog man? Also,

852
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 2>did you smell anything?

853
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't smell anything, but I went. I would think

854
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 3>it was it was about.

855
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>The height probably could have been like close to seven

856
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 1>feet and the way I would guess that, I don't know,

857
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 1>close to two hundred pounds.

858
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I fill seven feet tall and only two hundred pounds.

859
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It must have been a stick figure. Almost.

860
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. It wasn't that

861
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that thin. Now you know, it had a like a

862
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 3>fur hair.

863
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Reminded me of a huge German shepherd, but more wolf like, more.

864
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh were wolf like.

865
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds like it sounds like a good description. Bang

866
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Bang wants to know if it had five fingers like

867
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 2>a human hand, and you addressed that. You said that

868
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it had dew claws, So if it had new claus,

869
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 2>did it have any kind of a protruding thumb on

870
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the side of its wrist or hand or was it

871
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 2>just a claw?

872
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.320
<v Speaker 3>It looked like huge paws and.

873
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I was explaining that do claw as if we had

874
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>our hands out and thumbs. That's what I was uscribing

875
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the claw as I see.

876
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds like that's I'm pretty funky looking paws or hands.

877
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.360
<v Speaker 2>The next one up is from Project Skyfalls, and they

878
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.599
<v Speaker 2>want to know what color was the dog man.

879
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Since it was night, all I could see was a

880
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>dark colored coat.

881
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, yeah, so much in your mind.

882
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>You're doing good to know what your name was. You

883
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 2>handled it a lot better than most people would have,

884
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's natural that you'd still be affected by it.

885
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Who wouldn't be, so it's understandable there. The next question

886
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is from Fred Caserta, and Fred wants to know what

887
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>color worthy eyes. You told us they were black, but

888
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>he also wants to know what did the pupils of

889
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 2>the dog man look like.

890
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember seeing any pupils.

891
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Some eyewitnesses report noticing them. A lot of eyewitnesses don't,

892
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 2>so that doesn't make any different from a lot of

893
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 2>other eyewitnesses. This next question is Nadine Smith and Nadine Hey. Nadine,

894
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.639
<v Speaker 2>she wants to know what color were the eyes of

895
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the dog men. You said that those were black, but

896
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the second part of her question you didn't answer. She

897
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:14.320
<v Speaker 2>wants to know did they seem intelligent like they were

898
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 2>assessing you?

899
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did believe that because.

900
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>When I was approaching it.

901
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 3>It was really upset. It seemed like it was really upset.

902
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Really pissed off, and so it started running towards me

903
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and there was some kind of some kind of intelligence

904
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 1>there that it was out to get me.

905
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I can only imagine all the things that are

906
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 2>going through your mind at the time. Like I said,

907
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be the dead horse here. You deserve

908
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 2>so much credit for holding this together, holding everything together

909
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 2>so well, because most people have just fallen to pieces.

910
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Audisia Samber wants to know, did the dog man or

911
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 2>did the dog men visit you in dreams? Or do

912
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.760
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you had any type of mental or

913
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>telepathic connection with it? Thank you.

914
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I've never had any dreams of this terrifying, terrifying experience, and.

915
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there was a connection.

916
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only connection that I could think of

917
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 1>is that I was at the wrong place at the

918
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 1>wrong time.

919
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how most of these encounters are. Some people

920
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 2>think that they did something that called the encounters down

921
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 2>upon them and that's why they had them. But in

922
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.679
<v Speaker 2>most cases, that's what it boils down to, you just

923
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 2>being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and

924
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it's no more complicated than that. The next one is

925
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>from Anne Conseil, and Ian wants to know, Todd, did

926
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the dog me and mind speak with you?

927
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 1>No, it didn't, but I had the impression that it

928
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to brit me, to shreds and kill me.

929
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was a dead little teenager.

930
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet you did. But then again, that's for

931
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 2>most doug men they want you to think that that's

932
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 2>what they're out to do, to rip you apart, But surprise, surprise,

933
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>most eyewitnesses get away. The overwhelming majority of eyewitnesses walk

934
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 2>away without a scratch, because in most cases, these guys

935
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>are just looking to torment you and not actually rip

936
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 2>you to pieces. There's a reason behind everything they do,

937
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and they're so smart they realize that if they do

938
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>kill a person, then the whole area is going to

939
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.199
<v Speaker 2>be flooded with authorities and it's going to be a

940
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 2>big mess. So it's no surprise they don't kill eyewitnesses

941
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>except for once in a true blue moon. The next

942
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>question for you is from Red Edged Savage. He wants

943
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 2>to know did you ever get the feeling that it

944
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>knew what you were thinking or projected thoughts to you?

945
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think that, because.

946
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>If it did, it probably wouldn't approach any further than

947
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:05.719
<v Speaker 1>did because, uh, you know, my quick wittedness rebuked him

948
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.559
<v Speaker 1>with holding my two.

949
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Index fingers up like a cross, you know. And I believe.

950
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if and it didn't approach any further than it did.

951
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>And uh uh, I believe maybe if it did know that,

952
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have come my way.

953
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.360
<v Speaker 2>It really makes me wonder if it was just the

954
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 2>words when you rebuked it that had the desired effect,

955
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:31.400
<v Speaker 2>or if you're holding those index fingers up like you

956
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 2>said you did, if that even played. I'm sure, Well

957
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 2>you might be right. You just might be right. You

958
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>were there and none of us were, so you'd have

959
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the best idea on what did work and what didn't.

960
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Let's go for the next question. This one is from

961
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Andras Carazalees, and he wants to know where the two

962
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 2>other beings affected by the prayer or was it just

963
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the dog man?

964
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:01.559
<v Speaker 1>No, because they started running in the direction that I

965
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>would going before the dog man approached. So the two

966
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 1>other objects, teas or whatever they were, immediately started heading

967
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 1>in the direction that I was going before the dog

968
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.599
<v Speaker 1>man started it approach to me.

969
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I see, well, it goes with us saying that encounter

970
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>could have ended a heck of a lot worse than

971
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>it did. I think you had about the best ending

972
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you could have possibly hoped for. Thank goodness for that.

973
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Ian Conzell wants to know did either the dog man

974
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>or Bigfoot have a bad odor.

975
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>After the bigfoot encounter, the one at the river where

976
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I thought it could have been some kind of demon.

977
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Before today I realized I believe it was a big

978
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 1>foot did have an odor. It was a really strong

979
00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:00.679
<v Speaker 1>punch it oder punch it like a skunk, But it wasn't.

980
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't skunky smelling.

981
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 1>It was like, like I said, like rotten meat and

982
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of.

983
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>A garbage can in the summertime. Anybody knows what that

984
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 3>smells like.

985
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 2>You told us about how after you got back you

986
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 2>hit those clothes because of them smelling so bad. They

987
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>probably stink to this day when they want to put

988
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 2>that stink out. They're a masterful at it.

989
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. But yeah, they smelt for a while.

990
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they did. I don't doubt that at all.

991
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.079
<v Speaker 2>This next question is from Summer ne zero seven and

992
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the Summer wants to know, Todd, is this the first

993
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.400
<v Speaker 2>time you're sharing your dog man slash bigfoot encounter? And

994
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 2>did any of your friends or family ever share any

995
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.920
<v Speaker 2>encounters with you if they've had any? We believe you.

996
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Oh, thank you. Now, this isn't the first

997
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>time I recanted my or told my experience with the

998
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>dog Man featured on Vick's I witnessed bigfoot I've witness

999
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Radio last week, and I mentioned that that encounter.

1000
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And that show is doing really well, by the way,

1001
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>so that you know. But then again, like I told you, you

1002
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.719
<v Speaker 2>did such a masterful job sharing your experiences. It's really

1003
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:26.840
<v Speaker 2>no wonder it's not. The next question is from man

1004
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, do you think

1005
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the government knows about dog men?

1006
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do. I firmly believe that I think the government.

1007
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the government knows about a lot of things

1008
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about today.

1009
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they have one

1010
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 2>of these things in a cage. Now, as far as

1011
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.679
<v Speaker 2>dog men go, I'm not sure that all of them

1012
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:57.400
<v Speaker 2>do have demonic qualities, if any of them actually do,

1013
01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of course, we don't know that definitively. But I wouldn't

1014
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 2>be surprised at all if they have some dog men

1015
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in the cage and are able to really study them

1016
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.679
<v Speaker 2>so they know premature everything about them, with all their

1017
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 2>resources and abilities, wouldn't surprise me in the least. Let's

1018
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 2>get another question up here. This one's from summer n

1019
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 2>O seven, and she wants to know did you see

1020
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>any strange lights before your encounters happened.

1021
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:23.719
<v Speaker 3>No, I did not.

1022
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Some my witnesses due some my witnesses don't. Most don't,

1023
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 2>but some do for whatever reason. Bang Bang wants to know, Todd,

1024
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 2>please elaborate on the reason the smell got on you.

1025
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 3>I just believe that I was that close, so close to.

1026
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It, that that the smell had permeated around me.

1027
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.440
<v Speaker 3>You know I was that close.

1028
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. With the way they can stink, you don't have

1029
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to be all that close with that smell too on you.

1030
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 2>So it's no wonder it did get on him. Gabriel

1031
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Hawkins wants to know, Vic, when will you do another

1032
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Q and A with us listeners. I'm not really sure.

1033
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure what I'm going to do another

1034
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Q and A, but maybe I'll do one before too long.

1035
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I try to just bring on new eyewitnesses and maybe

1036
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to mix things up, do a Q and A or

1037
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 2>some other type of show once in a blue moon,

1038
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>but don't really have one in the plan says of

1039
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:34.079
<v Speaker 2>right now, so I'm not really sure. This next question

1040
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 2>for you is from ben youtubing, and they want to

1041
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 2>know question for Vic, how did you become such an

1042
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:44.159
<v Speaker 2>expert on the dog Man and other cryptids. Well, number one,

1043
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 2>there are no experts on dog men or any other cryptids.

1044
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.840
<v Speaker 2>What I know about dogmen is from a ridiculous amount

1045
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 2>of exposure to eye witnesses. I mean I've spoken with

1046
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 2>thousands upon thousands of them. If you speak with thousands

1047
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 2>upon thousands of people who have had direct interactions with

1048
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 2>grizzly bears, example, well, if you keep your ears open,

1049
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you're going to learn a tremendous amount about them. So

1050
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it's basically the same thing. But instead of talking about grizzlies,

1051
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>here talking about dog men. I hope that answers that question.

1052
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And he wants to know, do you have your own

1053
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.760
<v Speaker 2>episode if you go to a channel on YouTube called

1054
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 2>sawdust Beast. I was interviewed on there and I talked

1055
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:29.000
<v Speaker 2>about my sasquatch encounters or possible sasquatch encounters there, including

1056
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.519
<v Speaker 2>one that happened right around forty five years ago where

1057
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I think I had one thousand pounder just literally feet

1058
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.159
<v Speaker 2>behind me when I was deer hunting. So yeah, I

1059
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.760
<v Speaker 2>recommend you go check that out. This next question for

1060
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you is from t Bone, and I guess another question

1061
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<v Speaker 2>directed towards me. Let's try to keep all the questions

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01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 2>focused on the guest here, on Todd and not on me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll answer this one though. It says vic I recall

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01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you mentioning you've seen footage of dog Man. Yes, I

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01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 2>have rather close up on trail cams. Yeah, definitely have

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01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 2>that as well. But have you seen any pictures or

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01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:11.960
<v Speaker 2>videos circulating online that you believe to be authentic? Yes,

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01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I most definitely have seen pictures circulating around the Internet

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01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:19.440
<v Speaker 2>that are definitely authentic. Pictures that have been shared with

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01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 2>me that were really impressive photos, and then maybe a

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01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.840
<v Speaker 2>year or two later, I'd see it pop up online

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01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and then before you believe it, they were taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes a person who posted it was just gone. I

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01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they caught any blowback for posting that picture.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I've said countless times, if you make the

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01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 2>mistake of going public with any evidence about these things

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01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 2>that's too good, there's definite blowback. The government does not

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01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.239
<v Speaker 2>want that. So I plan on doing what I do

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01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, helping the eyewitnesses. If I didn't

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01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.519
<v Speaker 2>know better, and if I made the mistake of putting

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01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:59.079
<v Speaker 2>evidence out there for public consumption that was above a

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01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 2>certain level of even I wouldn't be allowed to help

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01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:06.559
<v Speaker 2>the eyewitnesses. I disappear as well, and I'm not going

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01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 2>to make that mistake or let that happen. Let's move

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01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 2>on to the next question. This question is from Red

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01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Edged Savage, and he wants to know, Todd, could you

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01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.800
<v Speaker 2>tell if it had legs like a human in basic shape?

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<v Speaker 1>It had legs like a dog, you know, anine. You know,

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01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 1>they were bent and it was walking up right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still so impressed by all the details that you

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01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 2>noticed about that thing. Yeah, it's almost like you were

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01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 2>a trained observer. You did a really good job. Like

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01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I told you before several times.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I call it like I see it. You know.

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01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a good way to be and a good

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01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. That's all you can do. Mary's got

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01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the next one. She wants to know, did your father

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01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 2>have a talk with you about what he knew or

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01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.079
<v Speaker 2>if he ever shared with you what he did It work.

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01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:08.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, especially with the OSI, and definitely with the CIA,

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01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and some things that he learned in the when he

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01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.400
<v Speaker 1>went to the FBI Academy. He hasn't divulged too much

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01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of the FBI Academy, but we my brother and I

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01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 1>got to talk to him on Christmas Day and he

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01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:25.519
<v Speaker 1>says that he told us that he's writing a book

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01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:29.159
<v Speaker 1>and he's so hopefully he's going to disclose some of

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01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the things he was never able to tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's probably so much that he wasn't allowed to

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01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 2>tell you if he actually was connected. That's just that

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01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 2>goes with the territory. It does. The next question is

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01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 2>from Nausea fourteen, and Nausea wants to know, I'm horrified

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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>that people in the mobile home ignored your plea for help.

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01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever encounter them again? And I agree, Naja,

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01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that's horrible. Shame on them.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I was screaming on at deaf ears, you know, and

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01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I felt really I felt really upset at you know,

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01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 1>after I got home, and to question why wouldn't they

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01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:20.599
<v Speaker 1>open the door, you know, and help me? And the

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<v Speaker 1>only answer that I can come up with is that

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01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, they knew what was down there, and they

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01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 1>want to get pulled into any kind of controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but still they could have caused a little kid

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01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:38.559
<v Speaker 2>to be killed out there because of their inaction, the

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01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 2>refusal to let you in. Shame on them. I don't

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01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.280
<v Speaker 2>care what their concerns were you were in dire need

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01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 2>of assistance and they just turned the cold shoulder. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I said, shame on them. Looks like

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01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Fred Caserta has the last question of the night. He

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01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to know did the dog man or sasquatch breathe heavily?

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01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 1>When the dog man screamed on me, screamed at me

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01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 1>so loud and so hard that the hair on my

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01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.559
<v Speaker 1>head was being blown back and I was getting spit

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01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 1>on my face from this creature's mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the question about Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was wondering if they're breathing heavily, the dog

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01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.600
<v Speaker 2>men or sasquatch, if they're breathing heavily like they're out

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01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:29.039
<v Speaker 2>of breath, like they'd been running. No, no, yeah, that's

1139
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 2>another one of those things where some dog men do

1140
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 2>that when they encounter I witnesses, and others don't. Others

1141
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:37.279
<v Speaker 2>you don't hear them breathe for the most part. So yeah,

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01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:40.399
<v Speaker 2>there's no rhyme nor reason on that. Well, before we

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<v Speaker 2>get out, if you're Todd, do you have any closes

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01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.159
<v Speaker 2>in comments you'd like to put out there for us?

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank the host you Vick and the people that were

1147
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:56.479
<v Speaker 1>tuned in tonight with their great questions.

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01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did do a great job, a lot of

1149
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 2>really good questions. Well, having said that, Todd, I can't

1150
01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 2>thank you enough for coming on sharing the details of

1151
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 2>these experiences with us. I really appreciate it.

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01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much for

1154
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:22.000
<v Speaker 2>your time, and have a great night. All right, everybody,

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01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.359
<v Speaker 2>before we get out of here, just a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget tomorrow night special live stream episode of the

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01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:29.720
<v Speaker 2>show where Cam's going to come back on and bring

1158
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.800
<v Speaker 2>all of us up to speed and all these crazy

1159
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 2>things that have been happening. And the second part is

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<v Speaker 2>if you've had a Dogman encounter of your own and

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01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.199
<v Speaker 2>will like to come on the show and share it

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01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:42.760
<v Speaker 2>with the listeners, or maybe you don't have an interest

1163
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:44.680
<v Speaker 2>in coming on the show, maybe you just need help

1164
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 2>dealing with it, coming to terms with it, and neither case,

1165
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 2>please go to Dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and

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01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:54.479
<v Speaker 2>if you do that, then I'll be more than happy

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01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 2>to schedule a phone consultation with you so we can

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01:09:57.039 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 2>find out what's ailing you and get you back to

1169
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.039
<v Speaker 2>good and by the way too. If you've had a

1170
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.399
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch sighting and we'd like to be a guest on

1171
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 2>my bigfoot Sighting via my Bigfoot Sighting podcast that I

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01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 2>produce also in addition to Dogman Encounters here, please go

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:17.439
<v Speaker 2>to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com submit a guest request,

1174
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'll reach out to you to get that set up. So,

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01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.920
<v Speaker 2>having said all that, thanks again so much for listening

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01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 2>to everyone, and have a great night.