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so much for joining us for another livestream episode of
the show. I really appreciate it. Hopefully everyone's new year
is off to a great start as well. I hope
this year, like I said in the last show, was
much better than last year was, which that wouldn't take
too much doing because last year wasn't all that great
for all lot of us. But anyway, moving forward, Before
I bring on tonight's guest, I just wanted to let
you know that I'm gonna hear a special Saturday night
live stream episode of the show tomorrow night, gonna bring
Cam back on. Cam reached out to me, I guess
what two weeks ago or so, maybe three, to let
me know about all the updates he had for me.
A lot has happened since we spoke last and yeah,
he's gonna come on tomorrow night to bring you all
up to speed on everything that he's been through. And yeah,
he's been through a lot, to say the least. So Yeah,
Mark calllendars, don't forget tomorrow night, nine pm Eastern time.
He'll be back to do that. So, like I said,
thanks as always for listening. But for tonight's show, tonight's
guest Todd Tidwell, he's going to talk about some experiences
he had as a kid. Most of his experiences weren't
with dog men worth a dog man, I should say,
most of them were with a sasquatch or with sasquatch plural.
I should say, maybe it was a good thing that
he had those sasquatch encounters before he had his dog
made an encounter. But instead of putting words into us mouth,
let's bring him in here and find out. Todd, thanks
so much for joining us. Hi, Well, we really appreciate
you coming on and spending the night with us. We
really do. Todd, please give us a brief file on yourself.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I grew up in East Sacramento County, California, about forty
five minutes from the Gold Country. That's the Foothills. I
was in the Lower Basin, growing up in the San
Juaquin Valley. I have a twin brother and two older sisters,
and a mom and dad and we grew up on
about thirteen acres. The property's adjacent to us were larger
fifty acres.
Speaker 3: Or more, and it was it was a good life.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like it was a good life.
Would you say that your crypted encounters tainted your childhood
at least to a certain degree, or would you say
that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had pretty much repressed the events
that had happened until I was in my late twenties,
and then once in a while I remember some of
the instances that happened, and then they would get stored
away back in the back of my brain somewhere. And
it's only now that I'm older, I'm much older, that
they're on my mind always.
Speaker 2: Well, I can understand why they would be. The reason
why I asked you. That is, for most people, when
they're asked what the worst thing they had to go
through and deal with as a kid was, most of
the I will tell you losing a parent, or for
some it was having a bike stolen or something simple
like that. Of course, losing appearance not in that category,
but having a bike stolen that's pretty lightweight compared to
other things that could happen. When you're a kid. But
for you, if someone asked you that question, you could
tell them that you were a chased home in the
middle of the night by a dog man in the
wee hours on a lonely road. I mean, that is
just something that no kid should ever have to deal with.
That's horrible, it really is. So that's why I was
asking if you you think your encounters tainted your childhood
at least to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a certain degree. I didn't that, but you know,
I you know, I got through. I got through it
and pretty much unscathed, except for the terror that I experienced.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can only imagine the tear you experienced. I
mean that is rough, especially at that age. Well, talking
about your childhood. In seventy nine, you had your first
cryptid sighting. But it wasn't a dog man. It was
a sasquatch. Please tell us what happened that day.
Speaker 1: It was a late spring of seventy nine and I
was around ten years old best I can remember, and.
Speaker 3: My brother and I were playing.
Speaker 1: Ball with just a ball in bat out in the
back pasture, and we had one of our friends with us.
Speaker 3: We was a couple of.
Speaker 1: Years older and while we're practicing baseball, we stirred up
a pheasant and my older friend was the one at bat,
and he actually threw the baseball bat in the direction
of the pheasant and downed it. And we were quite excited,
and we're cheering and jeering pretty loudly, and all of
a sudden, on our about ten acres something jumped up
to its feet and started running down the fence line,
and my brother and I were like, what is that?
You know, we couldn't figure well at first we thought,
I don't know what we thought, but we just knew
we thought it was human. When we asked our older friend,
what is that, and he replied casually, Oh, that's a
wild man. And my brother and I were like, wild man,
What the heck's a wild man? And I watched this
thing running down the fence line and it wasn't moving
up and down like you would think a person would run.
It kind of seemed like it was riding a bicycle
the fluid motion it was.
Speaker 3: Having, you know.
Speaker 1: And my dad showed up from work shortly after, and
you could still see this wild man in the distance
about fifty acres away, and we motioned to our dad.
Dad come here, come here. Look, it's a wild man.
And my dad was trying to look off into the distance.
He didn't see much, and then he motioned for a
older friend, uh, and they like were talking to each other, and.
Speaker 3: My dad didn't say anything else.
Speaker 1: About it, And then our attention got back to the
down pheasant that that happened about, and meant before.
Speaker 2: That, Wow, Todd, that's some pretty lethal aim. If he
was able to throw that bat and hit that pheasant,
how close was he to it?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, you know, pheasant, he can get right up
on him before they before they'll scare, you know, and
make a run for it. He'd probably we'd probably been
on top of it during the whole duration of our
baseball game before it came to a really strange conclude ending.
Speaker 2: See Okay, yeah he was that close then that would
definitely explain a lot. Did your dad put in to
effect certain rules after that experience, after he saw that
wild man off in the distance.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if he knew the family that
what exactly it was, but I know that he was
concerned when he heard the word man. You know, he
thought somebody might have been on our property that shouldn't
have been there. There are a whole lot of no
trespassing signs in the area where I grew up, as
far as curfews, we had to be home at dinner time.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm glad you're still able to go out
and do all the things you normally did then. And
it sounds like it didn't traumatize you. It sounds like
you're still interested in going out and joining yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard to keep kids down, especially when
you have all that acred to play on.
Speaker 2: Well, normally that's the case, but when most kids see
a sasquatch, then yeah, that tends to change things. I'm
just glad that it didn't affect you that way. Thank
goodness for that.
Speaker 1: Well, where you know, we were so busy doing other things,
you know, I'm sure we finally soon forgot about the
whole incident. Whether we're playing soccer or baseball or fishing.
We had all kinds of things to do, so I'm
sure the memory of that soon faded had we got
active doing other things.
Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the great things about growing up
in an environment like that, You can go out and
fish and do things out in the outdoors. So yeah,
that's one of the reasons why I think that's about
the best way to grow up. All right, Todd, please
tell us about your dog meting encounter. Now give us
every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, my dog.
Speaker 1: That experience was in spring of nineteen eighty two, and
I was thirteen years old, and some of the kids
in school that day, we're talking about one of their
parents was going to be out of town or both
of their parents were going to be out of town
on a I guess a vacation, and so it gave
us some of us an opportunity to go to the
friend's house where there was going to be no adult supervision.
And you know, I always didn't make the best decisions
when I was young growing. So I told him i'd
be there, and so early that evening, I pulled my
bike out of the barn and aired up the tires
and staged it by my window where I was going
to crawl out of that night, and when my parents
and everybody was asleep in my house, I was going
to sneak out and go to my friends whose parents
were out of town. And uh I did. I did
just that. Around midnight, I creeped out I crawled out
my window rather and headed in the direction where my
friend lived, and there was about four miles up the road,
and about halfway on the way there, I was hearing
some real, real peculiar sounds, like like some screams and
some some uh, just noises that I I didn't normally
hear because it was in the middle of the night,
and in the middle of the night, I'm you know,
in bed usually except for this one night.
Speaker 3: But I didn't let that deter me. So I'm riding
to my friend's house.
Speaker 1: And about halfway there, my bicycle tires went flat. The
air had come out of them, and uh again, that
didn't deter me. And so I'm riding with flat tires
the rest of the way to my friend's house.
Speaker 3: And when I finally got there.
Speaker 1: We just, you know, we're just we're having fun without
any adult supervision. And that was kind of a kick
for me, you know, because it was the first time
that I've ever done anything like that. So as things
started to wind down, it was about maybe three am,
I needed to start heading home. With my bicycle tires
being flat, I was gonna be riding. One of the
terms is called is rim riding, and that's where you're
riding with no air in your tires and then you're
just pretty much basically on.
Speaker 3: Your rims of your bicycle. So I started heading.
Speaker 1: Back to my house around three am, and about three
quarters of the way there, I had to go up
this incline and then down.
Speaker 3: This hill, this pretty steep hill.
Speaker 1: And as I was starting to descend down this hill,
I noticed in the proper in the property to the
left of me, there's a creek in a small bridge.
It's part of the driveway of this estate. And I
saw three objects standing like in a little huddle, it
seemed like. And and I was making a racket too
on these rims on that asphalt road, and I'm sure
the noise got their attention, and they at at the
same time, all three of these objects that were standing
up looked over in my direction, and I thought, Okay,
I wasn't that concerned at first because I wasn't sure
exactly what it was. I thought maybe it could have
been maybe some farmers, because the farmers in our area
wake up pretty early, especially to dairy farmers. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then as I started.
Speaker 1: To send down the hill even more, two of the
objects ran in the direction I was riding my bike,
and then once stayed there, stationed but focused at me, you.
Speaker 3: Know, intent intentively.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: When the two objects ran in my direction, in the direction.
Speaker 1: I was heading, Uh, they cat what I thought was
change is they cast out a two long shadows that
were ahead of them.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a partial moon that night, and but.
Speaker 1: I wasn't too after that, I wasn't too concerned about
those two objects.
Speaker 3: I was made mostly concerned about the one.
Speaker 1: That stayed that was intentively uh, looking in my direction,
and they just start to proceed in my direction. And
I was pedaling and pedaling as fast as I could.
But I knew that this thing was going to head
me off so called at the path. So all I
could say to do was stop my bicycle and wait
for this collisions. You know, almost is what I was thinking.
We were going to come to ends, you know, And
you gotta you gotta think about this. Okay, I'm on
the shoulder of the road and on the other side
of the road there was a ditch and then a fence. Okay,
this creature, now that I'm thinking this is some kind
of creature, came right up to it to approach that fence,
that fence line, and all I could think of to
do was take my two index fingers and make a
cross out of them, okay, and start reciting the Lord's Prayer,
because I thought I was a goner. And as soon
as I did that, this creature, which now was close
enough for me to see what it actually was. It
looked like a huge werewold.
Speaker 3: Okay. It's head was like three feet wide.
Speaker 1: I had a snout, it had a harry chess, you know,
like like a dog would have, and it had these
arms that weren't that big, but they were arms okay.
Speaker 3: And teeth, oh my gosh. The muzzle was just full
of teeth.
Speaker 1: And a few of them were really sharp, a nine
looking okay from the top and bottom bridge.
Speaker 3: And so I'm.
Speaker 1: Standing there making across out of my two index fingers,
saying the Lord's prairie, and it stopped it in its tracks.
It's and it was so upset with me when it
was screaming at me. I was so close that I
was getting spit on my face from this creature's mouth,
and not not worrying about where it was, I just
started peddling, peddling again in the direction of my house,
and you know, you would.
Speaker 3: Think that I would be totally terrified. I was totally terrified,
but when I got.
Speaker 1: Home and thought about what had just happened, I felt
like I defeated.
Speaker 3: Something that was surely going to kill me.
Speaker 1: So I waited till dawn before I went on to
my property because of these two shadow figures that were
going in the direction that I was. And I saw
these two shadow figures go into my backyard.
Speaker 3: That's why I.
Speaker 1: Waited till dawn before I proceeded onto my property. And
once the que started getting bright enough, I went down
my driveway, parked my bike into the bushes along near
our garage, and I crawled back through my window. And
at about six thirty maybe seven am, my brother came into.
Speaker 3: My room and he has to be where have you been,
you know?
Speaker 1: And I told him exactly what had happened the night before,
and I told him about the werewolf, and he kind
of rolled his eyes, and then he told me, you'd
better be going to school today. And I told him
that after what had happened to me last night and
me being up all night.
Speaker 3: There's no way I'm going to school today.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't call it a luxury, But my parents
would leave for work before I would go and catch
the bus, so I knew that, and that's how I
decided how I wasn't going to go to school that day.
And that was my dog experience. But you know, I
did feel like I had somehow defeated this thing, you know,
with my religious police at the time, and that's my
dog man experience.
Speaker 2: Consider how it responded when you revoked it, rebuked it,
I should say, do you think that means that it
was definitely a demonic entity or something else?
Speaker 3: It had to have been.
Speaker 1: It had to have been, because it's when I did
that it stopped it in its tracks, and the anger
and theory that it had that it seemed like that
it couldn't approach any closer, you know, And I chalked
it up to doing.
Speaker 3: You know, and believing in my beliefs and religion that
got me through it.
Speaker 2: Were there any other points in that experience where it
was close enough to grab you but didn't before you.
Speaker 1: Because I was about maybe fifteen feet from where it was,
It couldn't, really, it wasn't. The arms weren't long enough
to reach out and grab me. And you know, I
I guess the term rebuked it, you know, and I
just knew at that time that I had stopped it
in its tracks and it wasn't going to proceed any further.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you did that. I'm wondering though most kids,
after having experience like that that was so traumatic, they
wouldn't even give a second thought ever going outside again
to play. But you did. You were still able to
go out and play in do normal things that kids
would do. What do you think it is about your
makeup that enabled you to do that, to handle that
experience so well?
Speaker 3: I think that I had repressed the memory.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go through any kind of trauma
like that a lot of times and even in my
case that you you just repress the memory. And also too,
I had a lot of things going on, even at
that early age.
Speaker 3: You know, baseball.
Speaker 1: Practice, you know, school exams, you know, a girlfriend or two.
Speaker 3: You know, there was other things on my mind after that,
you know, encounter that I thought, probably.
Speaker 1: At the time, were more important than recalling that that experience.
Speaker 2: Well, I can appreciate the fact you had all that
going on, But even though you did have all those
things going on, the fact that you're still able to
go out and be business as usual as a kid.
I mean that shows you have a lot of sand.
Most kids, even if they had all those things going on,
would just be mortified. They just wouldn't even give a
second thought ever going back outside to play. But you did,
and thank goodness, you dealt with it so well. You
deserve a lot of credit for that. You really do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have dealt with it that
well or you know, because if in fact I had
repressed the experience, then I wouldn't have even thought about
it at all.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can appreciate that, but I mean, most
people wouldn't have been able to repress it and still
be able to live their lives the way they wanted to.
But whatever you needed to do to be able to
move forward, you did so. Yeah, thank goodness for that. Now,
when you said it was about fifteen feet from you
when you rebuked it, it was so close that you
said blue spit on you. What was it doing with
its arms?
Speaker 1: They were just they were docile, you know, there wasn't
much of any movement at all. You know, I was
more concerned about its mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why you were more concerned about
its mouth. How good of a look did you get
at its teeth?
Speaker 3: I got a real good look at its teeth. There
was almost like it was in three D.
Speaker 1: You know, the big snout, the big nose, and then
huge canine and the back teeth.
Speaker 3: You know, they were all there.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they were. Were you able to see
if it had one row of teeth or two?
Speaker 3: It had definitely had two rows of teeth and a
big tongue.
Speaker 2: Wow. That must have really freaked you out and understand.
So was there anything unusual about the spacing of its teeth?
Speaker 1: No, I mean, all I can remember was that they
were large, really large. The top row you could see
like the uh, the inside, the insiders, and then these
huge like cane I.
Speaker 3: T I see.
Speaker 2: The reason why I asked that is some of my
witnesses report seeing teeth that look fairly similar to just
normal canine teeth, while others say that the teeth looked
like what you'd see in the shark's mouth.
Speaker 3: So yeah, or an alligator yeah.
Speaker 2: Or an alligator yeah. So that's why I asked that.
I was just wondering about that before we move on.
I just want to thank Gabriel Hawkins for your donation.
I really appreciated Gabriel. Thank you so much. Moving forward,
their Todd, can you think of anything that you might
have done that night on that ride home that might
have triggered the dog men to come after you?
Speaker 1: Just that I might have interrupted what was going on
along that creek with a small bridge that went across it,
that I had interrupted them, all right, the dog man
which I was referring it to, were wolf and the
two other of the two other I don't know what
they were today.
Speaker 3: I just know that they were casting really long shadows.
Speaker 1: But I definitely interrupted them with the sounds of my
bike riding on the flat tires.
Speaker 3: You know, I was making a racket.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they were doing in the woods there
when you came by. I don't think that anything you
did triggered them, but then again I wasn't there to know,
so yeah, maybe there was something that you did to
set them off. But thank goodness, you rebuked that dog
me in and the experience ended the way it did.
I just hate the fact, like I said, you had
to go all this. I mean, no kids should have
to deal with that. No adult should. So that's horrible,
it really is. You said your friend lived about four
miles from you. Was it remote the whole way there
or did you have to go through developed areas?
Speaker 3: Now, it was pretty whiral, and there was a property like.
Speaker 1: Every ten sometimes twenty acres, so that's roughly an eighth
of a mile to a quarter mile in between.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was pretty remote. Then when
all this was going on, I know you had a
lot on your mind, but can you remember, by chance
if all the ambient noises stopped or not.
Speaker 1: Oh when this where Woll screamed at me, I had
lost my hearing. It was so loud. So after it
had screamed at me, all I could hear was ringing
in my ear, and you know, I was all I
could think.
Speaker 3: I was great. Now I'm going to have.
Speaker 1: To tell my dad where I was last night and
why my hearing's gone.
Speaker 2: Did it take long for that hearing to come back?
Speaker 1: No, it came back. As soon as I got to
my property and was waiting for the dawn. I slowly
started to get my hearing back.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank goodness, which was.
Speaker 3: A relief for me, because no harm, no foul, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness, that would have caused problems if it didn't.
Did you ever get a good enough look at its
back to see if it had a tail or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see a tail. I could see a tail.
Even though I had a front of you. I could
see its tail. It would have been able to hit
on my right.
Speaker 3: And it was a really big tail, really.
Speaker 1: Big like a husky would have a husky dog, but
way bigger, but fluffy like that.
Speaker 2: I see. Well, it sounds like you did a really
good job noticing details on this dog man. Most people
would have shut down and they would have been doing
good to know their own name. But you took in
a lot, which is admirable. That's impressive. How about its claws?
What kind of claws did it have?
Speaker 1: They had huge dog hair like dog hands with big
nails by claw, but the arms weren't very long at all.
Speaker 2: From the way you describe it. Oh, I'm sorry, please continue.
Speaker 3: Didn't extend it forward much.
Speaker 2: From the way you describe the claws. Do they have
any hooks to them, kind of like a black bear's
claws where it looked like they were made for climbing
trees or were they street or.
Speaker 3: They were curved.
Speaker 1: They had some curve to them, and it even had
like the dew claw, which would be like if I
were to take my hands and put them out, they
would be the clause would be like where my thumbs are.
Speaker 2: So not only on the back legs, but on its
arms as well, on its hands, it had d claws. Yes,
I see, Okay, that makes sense for everyone listening in
the live chat. If you'd like to start typing out
your questions for Todd, please be sure to type them
in all caps so I don't miss them before I
get to those. Though, we've got a little bit further
to go with the questions. Moving on, Todd, in our
conversations behind the scenes, you basically the first time we spoke,
you gave me the impression that the sasquatch experience I'm
going to ask you to tell us about next just
might have been more traumatizing to you than what the
dogman the encounter was. Is that accurate? Which one was
was more frightening for you?
Speaker 3: The Satashquot Society is the big Foot?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I can understand why. When you talked about
how it actually affected you and what you did right
after you had it, Well, let's get to that one now.
Please tell us all the details about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, This would be.
Speaker 1: In the summer of nineteen eighty three and I was
fourteen years old and I had go I had gone
to the river that day.
Speaker 3: Actually I had.
Speaker 1: Gone to the river, which is a mile from my house,
the day before that. But when I got to the river,
there was my older my neighbor who was like four
years five years older than I was at the time,
and he had his girlfriend with him. So once I
recognized that, I elected to go back home. So it
was the very next day I went back to the
river and it was just me. I thought, you know, well,
I was hoping that there wasn't going to be anybody
else there. As I approached the river, there was this
mobile home about fifty yards from where I entered the river,
and it was used as like the caretaker of the
property was living there and they were an older couple.
Speaker 3: But this this time I was down there.
Speaker 1: It was a newer trailer and the old couple that
lived in the trailer before that were gone, and there
was a little kid playing with like his little Tonka
trucks out out in front, and he saw that I
had my towel, and I was in my swim trunck and.
Speaker 3: He said to me, you can't go down there.
Speaker 1: There's monsters down there, and I kind of chuckled, I know,
I did chuckle it monsters huh. And then that's when
his mother opened the door to the trailer and motioned
him inside, and I looked over at his mom. I said,
monsters huh. And I was just being jokingly about it.
So I proceeded down the fifty yards down to the
entrance where I get into the river, and I started
walking upstream. Well, I got about maybe twenty yards upstream
and on the opposite side of the river where the
levee is, some rocks started getting thrown at me and
they were being arcd over the levee in my direction,
and I actually got hit by one of one of
the rocks that I got hit with with about the
size of the silver dollar. It hit me in the back.
So I automatically fought that day. There were some of
my friends that had beat me to the river that
day and were trying to push me out. You know,
you know how sometimes kids are cruel, and so not
wanting to get hit by another rock, I just turned
to my right and went up the river bank all
into the levee road, which was a two track road.
And I was pretty upset at the time, thinking, wow,
you know, I thought I had better friends than that,
and so I started walking in the direction of that
mobile home. And then I turned around and said, you
know what, I'm not going to let these guys do
this to me. So I turned around and started heading
right where I got out of the river. And as
I did that, something came up from the river bank
that terrified me. It it had a large head and
big black marble eyes. I don't remember seeing the ears,
but the head was kind of square, it wasn't conical,
and it had some hair on it, Okay, kind of
like a head of cabbage that was flattened down.
Speaker 3: You know. That's the only way I could explain it.
Speaker 1: And what terrified me the most was the skin color,
because at that time I had watched the movie The
Extrasist and the actress the name in that movie, her
name was Raven, and when she was possessionally had this
color the skin that resembled what I.
Speaker 3: Was looking at.
Speaker 1: And every line on this creature's face, whether it be
the two laugh lines on either side of its mouth,
and all the lines that were on its forehead were
a bright red okay.
Speaker 3: Its nose was pug pugged, kind of like.
Speaker 1: A pig snout, but not as big, okay, not like
the size of a pig snout, but it was pugged okay.
And its mouth with it went almost from from it
just went from one side of the face to the other,
like it was like.
Speaker 3: A trap, a trap jaw.
Speaker 1: Really big teeth and there were some uh K nine
type type teeth that were that were sharp, but like sharp,
both on the upper and lower bridge.
Speaker 3: And the chest was really big. And I only saw
this thing.
Speaker 1: From uh the upper torso up and and the the
winketh of.
Speaker 3: The shoulders were really wide, way wider than mine. I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I couldn't determine if this thing was that old or
that young, Okay. All I knew is that I thought
it was some kind of demon okay.
Speaker 3: And I was so.
Speaker 1: Taken back by this thing that I started back pedaling
backwards and I fell, and because I was still wet
from getting down of the river, I fell into the
two track road which was mostly still There was some
sand but mostly silt, and I had this all over
my wet body. When I got up and turned to run,
my legs felt like they were about two hundred pounds each.
They wouldn't move, and so taking my right and left
hand on my right leg, I was picking my leg up,
get it to move, you know, move forward.
Speaker 3: And finally I got movement in my leg and I.
Speaker 1: Started running to that mobile home that wasn't very far away.
And I was banging on this trailer as hard as
I could, and my mouth was so dry I could
barely get any words out, and I was yelling, please
help me, let me in, Please help me. And you
know what, I wasn't going to get any help because
that lady wasn't going to open her door for me.
Now that kid that said you can't go down there,
there's monitors down there, well he wasn't lying. They must
have known something that I didn't obviously, so I knew
that I wasn't going to get any.
Speaker 3: Help from them.
Speaker 1: So I started down the dirt road that I came
up on from my street from the asphalt, and when
I almost got to the asphalt, I noticed that the
irrigation ditches were full, and they're like three foot irrigation ditches.
So the only thing that was in between me and
the irrigation ditch was a barbed bar fence. So I
went in between the barbed wires and got into the
irrigation ditch because by now the silt had started drying
on me like stucco, so I was just trying to
get silt.
Speaker 3: This dried silt off me as fast as I could.
And then I don't know what got my.
Speaker 1: Attention, but I looked towards the levee of the river
again and I saw this huge.
Speaker 3: Silhouette. I didn't see much detail about.
Speaker 1: All I could see was this big youthe head, the
huge rake, the shoulder that were like about four feet wide,
big arms, big muscles, a big barrel chest, and from
the upper torso where the chested went down to the
waist like a tapered and then these two huge legs
that looked like they were tree trunks. And in my mind,
this is what I heard. I heard, you better get
out of here right now before you can't, okay, And
it wasn't my voice I was saying this. This was
something that wasn't my voice that I was hearing, and
so not being able to get all this dry silt
off me. I got up and went in between the
barbed wires again and back onto the dirt road, which
about fifteen yards from the asphalt. And I had put
my arms out and my hands up, and it said okay.
I said, okay, okay, I'm leaving and terrified, right terrified.
There was nothing I could say to rebuke this thing.
I heard what I heard, and I believed, I believed
it to be true.
Speaker 3: So I left there. I got onto the asphalt road
and started heading home. Now, remember I have a mile.
Speaker 1: To walk still, and I got about an eighth of
a mile in the direction of my house, and then
I heard something approaching on the other side of the road,
on the other side of the fence. And I couldn't
see it though, but I could. I could hear it approaching,
and I.
Speaker 3: Could see it.
Speaker 1: It's football because the weeds that were growing they were
moving with the steps of this thing that I can't see.
And I jumped out of my out of my skin again.
I mean I literally jumped up in the air, scared.
And about the same time a farmer came right and
by it old farm truck, and I swear if pot
farmer had taken a look at me.
Speaker 3: He could tell something was wrong.
Speaker 1: So I kept I kept walking and I and this
time I had lost my flip flops.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's summertime.
Speaker 1: And uh, a hot asphalt road is nothing, nothing fun, okay.
So I had to walk on the very the very
edge of the street where the where the weeds.
Speaker 3: Were growing to keep my feet from burning.
Speaker 1: Finally I made it home, okay, And I must have
looked like, uh, looked like hell Okay.
Speaker 3: I was in shock, and uh.
Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was get onto my property,
to the back of the house where the spit there
was a spickett and a hose and start rinsing off.
And not only was I rinsing off this dried silk
that was on my body, but I was also were
washing off this stink. The stench that I had, and
how I described the smell was like the rotting meat,
kind of like a skunk, but it wasn't a skunk,
but it was pung up like a skunk and the
bottom of a garbage can in summertime. And so I
rinsed off. And then now I'm left with my swim trunks,
which stunk. I'm sure they stunk too, because I went
into the barn and I had stripped down and I
had shoved my clothes and between a couple of bills
of hey that we had left.
Speaker 3: Over from the season before.
Speaker 1: And then I because I didn't want my dad to
know that I was at the river, so I hid
my swim trunks, and then I went and rinsed off
one more time with the spickett, and then I went
to the house and then I took and I washed
up in the shower, and I like rinsed a louder
rints and repeated like twice. Okay, because I didn't on
any signs of anything that I had to explain to
my dad when he got home from work. I went
into my bedroom and I just waited, okay, and still
in shock, I'm sure when he came home, he came
into my bedroom and to ask me how my day was,
and I broke down, and so he sat at the
edge of my bed with me, and then I proceeded
to explain to him that I was at the river
and that I knew I wasn't supposed to be down there,
and the reason why I wasn't supposed to be down
there is because he had he had given us instructions
before because I had gotten cut down there on some
barbed wire and I had to get stitched up. So
if that was the reason why he told us never
to go back down to the river, maybe he did
know about something that was.
Speaker 3: Going on, not only on our our property.
Speaker 1: But I just have a feeling my dad knew about
these things, especially since we told him about the wild man,
and if he believed, if he believed that to be true,
maybe that's one of the reasons why he didn't want.
Speaker 3: Us going back down to the river again.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he could still tell that I was
in shock, and you know what, he didn't scold me.
Speaker 3: I didn't get in any kind of trouble.
Speaker 1: He just told me to rest, you know, rest up, okay,
because he can tell that I've been through it. Okay,
I've been through it, and you know, I never heard
anything else about that.
Speaker 3: But very next day.
Speaker 1: Around it was a couple hours before lunchtime, so I'd say,
around ten o'clock in the morning, I'm in the garage
and our garage door faces our street. I saw two
two what looked like government vehicles go down our street.
One of them got to the vehicles, and I don't
know if they were Bureau of Land Management, but they
were newer trucks and they were step side and they
looked like Forestreet trucks, but they were painted like forestry trucks.
Speaker 3: And I say they looked like Forestreet trucks because.
Speaker 1: They were well, we'll drive, and they had the skinny tires,
you know, and they had these camper shells that had
a door in the back where the tailgate would be,
and they were painted this bluish gray color.
Speaker 3: And there was two of them, one parked over there.
Speaker 1: Next to my property and the other one kept going
straight down the road down towards the river. And I
just thought that that looks real peculiar. Those must be
government trucks.
Speaker 3: And you know my dad's employment.
Speaker 1: At one time, my dad held credentials with local law enforcement.
He went to the FBI academy, he was in the OSI,
and he spent some time with the CIA. So when
he was in the o SI and for those listeners
who don't know what OSI is, its Office of Special Investigations. Now,
I don't know if a bigfoot sign constitute constitutes a
office a special investigations team to come out. But I
for some reason, I believe that my dad might have
contacted some of his colleagues and they went to go
investigate what had happened to me the day before.
Speaker 2: He just might have been connected. From what I understand,
he did something after that day that maybe, so you
hopefully wouldn't have any more experiences like that. Please expand
on that. For us.
Speaker 1: The followings early summer, or it might have been the
early fall of that same year, we had built in
swimming pool put in so there would be no more,
no reason at all that I would have to go
back to the river to cool off. We had our
own pool.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Knew what he was doing. Yeah, that worked with me too.
I'd spend the whole summer there right by the pool, so.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say I blame you there. That was
a good move. And what in the world's going on
with that dead looking sasquatch. I mean, I can understand
a lot of adaptations they might have, but having greenish
looking skin, bluish greenish looking skin like you'd see on
a corpse, that's really hard to understand and wrap your
mind around. I just I can't see the advantage to
having skin that looks like I just like that. I
just wonder why it looked that way. That's so weird.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I've ever heard of any counter
with that colored skin. Usually i've heard that they're like black,
they look black or mostly black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, normally that's how it is. But now with that
one that you saw, maybe something was wrong with it.
It's just hard to know. All we can do is
guess on that. Well, let's get to some of the
questions from the live chat here. The first one is
a general question from Christi Anne. She wants to know
if dog men have rabies. Well, that's something we can
only guess at. Mammals can get rabies, but our dog
men just run to the mill mammals. I mean, there
are a lot of things that point soundly towards them
not being just typical flesh and blood creatures that are
out there trying to scratch out a living. There is
a lot of evidence that points towards them possibly having
demonic ties. We don't know that for sure, but if
that's a case, I don't think that rabies is even
a consideration for them. This next question is from Gabriel
Hawkins and Gabe wants to know, Vic, whatever happened to
the guest who was in a coma?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: That really is a sad situation there. That's the eyewitness
I was telling you guys about maybe four or five
months ago. I think it was where what that guy
went through as a kid, he had a dog men
come up and do something horrible to him. I don't
want to go into the details in case he does
pull out of his condition, his illness. I'm not sure
if he's even alive now. The last time I checked
in on him, his mother responded to my text and
let me know that he was still in the coma,
a medically induced coma, I believe it was. I thought
about reaching out again, but I was kind of afraid
to because what if she lost him, lost her son,
and then here's this stranger asking questions. I was hoping
he would have recovered from it, but I really don't know.
For that reason, I can't tell you. The next question
is from Michigan meat eater, and his question is how
close do you live to this area now? And have
you had any other strange experiences or noises as an adult.
Speaker 1: Since then? I moved to southern California. My parents sold
a ranch and I hadn't heard any strange noises like that,
and I live in the city limits of San Diego.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness you haven't had any other experiences. Hope
it stays that way. Carlito's Way ninety three CC wants
to know what color eyes did it have?
Speaker 3: They had big black, marble looking eyes.
Speaker 2: Were they kind of like the sharks? Or did you
see some whites around.
Speaker 3: Them like a shark? That's a good way to explain.
Speaker 2: It, okay, I see. The next one on deck is
from Anne Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, are
you an identical twin or for eternal?
Speaker 1: I'm a paternal We're called mirror twins. I'm right handed
and my twin is left handed. It's like looking into
a mirror.
Speaker 2: Wow, I never heard of that before. Well that's interesting.
And speaking of your twin, I need to see if
I can get a hold of him. That'd be a
great way to get some dirt on you, to get
some good stories, wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that to
you for all you know. Let's see the next question
is from Andre's Carasales, and Andres wants to know did
anything seem off before or after the encounter?
Speaker 3: This morning?
Speaker 1: Well before the dog man encountered, I was, uh, while
I was pedaling to my friend's house, I was hearing
sounds along the river bank, because we're where the encounter
took place. The river was about it was about, uh,
maybe a half a mile from the street that I
was on, and I was hearing some really strange sounds.
But I was just I was had a one track
mine to get to my friend's house where there was
no adult supervision. You know, I wasn't gonna let the
really strange noises sidefacked me.
Speaker 2: Wow, you were a tough kid, that's for sure. Yeah,
that would have derailed a lot of kids, no doubt
about that. This next question is from d Truth and
D wants to know. Hello, Vic and Todd. Any idea
on the height and weight of the dog man? Also,
did you smell anything?
Speaker 3: I didn't smell anything, but I went. I would think
it was it was about.
Speaker 1: The height probably could have been like close to seven
feet and the way I would guess that, I don't know,
close to two hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: Wow, I fill seven feet tall and only two hundred pounds.
It must have been a stick figure. Almost.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. It wasn't that
that thin. Now you know, it had a like a
fur hair.
Speaker 1: Reminded me of a huge German shepherd, but more wolf like, more.
Speaker 3: Uh were wolf like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it sounds like a good description. Bang
Bang wants to know if it had five fingers like
a human hand, and you addressed that. You said that
it had dew claws, So if it had new claus,
did it have any kind of a protruding thumb on
the side of its wrist or hand or was it
just a claw?
Speaker 3: It looked like huge paws and.
Speaker 1: I was explaining that do claw as if we had
our hands out and thumbs. That's what I was uscribing
the claw as I see.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like that's I'm pretty funky looking paws or hands.
The next one up is from Project Skyfalls, and they
want to know what color was the dog man.
Speaker 1: Since it was night, all I could see was a
dark colored coat.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, yeah, so much in your mind.
You're doing good to know what your name was. You
handled it a lot better than most people would have,
but it's natural that you'd still be affected by it.
Who wouldn't be, so it's understandable there. The next question
is from Fred Caserta, and Fred wants to know what
color worthy eyes. You told us they were black, but
he also wants to know what did the pupils of
the dog man look like.
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing any pupils.
Speaker 2: Some eyewitnesses report noticing them. A lot of eyewitnesses don't,
so that doesn't make any different from a lot of
other eyewitnesses. This next question is Nadine Smith and Nadine Hey. Nadine,
she wants to know what color were the eyes of
the dog men. You said that those were black, but
the second part of her question you didn't answer. She
wants to know did they seem intelligent like they were
assessing you?
Speaker 3: Yes, I did believe that because.
Speaker 1: When I was approaching it.
Speaker 3: It was really upset. It seemed like it was really upset.
Speaker 1: Really pissed off, and so it started running towards me
and there was some kind of some kind of intelligence
there that it was out to get me.
Speaker 2: Well, I can only imagine all the things that are
going through your mind at the time. Like I said,
I'm going to be the dead horse here. You deserve
so much credit for holding this together, holding everything together
so well, because most people have just fallen to pieces.
Audisia Samber wants to know, did the dog man or
did the dog men visit you in dreams? Or do
you feel like you had any type of mental or
telepathic connection with it? Thank you.
Speaker 1: I've never had any dreams of this terrifying, terrifying experience, and.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there was a connection.
Speaker 1: I mean, the only connection that I could think of
is that I was at the wrong place at the
wrong time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how most of these encounters are. Some people
think that they did something that called the encounters down
upon them and that's why they had them. But in
most cases, that's what it boils down to, you just
being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and
it's no more complicated than that. The next one is
from Anne Conseil, and Ian wants to know, Todd, did
the dog me and mind speak with you?
Speaker 1: No, it didn't, but I had the impression that it
wanted to brit me, to shreds and kill me.
Speaker 3: I thought I was a dead little teenager.
Speaker 2: Oh I bet you did. But then again, that's for
most doug men they want you to think that that's
what they're out to do, to rip you apart, But surprise, surprise,
most eyewitnesses get away. The overwhelming majority of eyewitnesses walk
away without a scratch, because in most cases, these guys
are just looking to torment you and not actually rip
you to pieces. There's a reason behind everything they do,
and they're so smart they realize that if they do
kill a person, then the whole area is going to
be flooded with authorities and it's going to be a
big mess. So it's no surprise they don't kill eyewitnesses
except for once in a true blue moon. The next
question for you is from Red Edged Savage. He wants
to know did you ever get the feeling that it
knew what you were thinking or projected thoughts to you?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that, because.
Speaker 1: If it did, it probably wouldn't approach any further than
did because, uh, you know, my quick wittedness rebuked him
with holding my two.
Speaker 3: Index fingers up like a cross, you know. And I believe.
Speaker 1: Maybe if and it didn't approach any further than it did.
And uh uh, I believe maybe if it did know that,
it wouldn't have come my way.
Speaker 2: It really makes me wonder if it was just the
words when you rebuked it that had the desired effect,
or if you're holding those index fingers up like you
said you did, if that even played. I'm sure, Well
you might be right. You just might be right. You
were there and none of us were, so you'd have
the best idea on what did work and what didn't.
Let's go for the next question. This one is from
Andras Carazalees, and he wants to know where the two
other beings affected by the prayer or was it just
the dog man?
Speaker 1: No, because they started running in the direction that I
would going before the dog man approached. So the two
other objects, teas or whatever they were, immediately started heading
in the direction that I was going before the dog
man started it approach to me.
Speaker 2: I see, well, it goes with us saying that encounter
could have ended a heck of a lot worse than
it did. I think you had about the best ending
you could have possibly hoped for. Thank goodness for that.
Ian Conzell wants to know did either the dog man
or Bigfoot have a bad odor.
Speaker 1: After the bigfoot encounter, the one at the river where
I thought it could have been some kind of demon.
Before today I realized I believe it was a big
foot did have an odor. It was a really strong
punch it oder punch it like a skunk, But it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't skunky smelling.
Speaker 1: It was like, like I said, like rotten meat and
the bottom of.
Speaker 3: A garbage can in the summertime. Anybody knows what that
smells like.
Speaker 2: You told us about how after you got back you
hit those clothes because of them smelling so bad. They
probably stink to this day when they want to put
that stink out. They're a masterful at it.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But yeah, they smelt for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they did. I don't doubt that at all.
This next question is from Summer ne zero seven and
the Summer wants to know, Todd, is this the first
time you're sharing your dog man slash bigfoot encounter? And
did any of your friends or family ever share any
encounters with you if they've had any? We believe you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Oh, thank you. Now, this isn't the first
time I recanted my or told my experience with the
dog Man featured on Vick's I witnessed bigfoot I've witness
Radio last week, and I mentioned that that encounter.
Speaker 2: And that show is doing really well, by the way,
so that you know. But then again, like I told you, you
did such a masterful job sharing your experiences. It's really
no wonder it's not. The next question is from man
Console and Ian wants to know, Todd, do you think
the government knows about dog men?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I firmly believe that I think the government.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the government knows about a lot of things
that we're talking about today.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they have one
of these things in a cage. Now, as far as
dog men go, I'm not sure that all of them
do have demonic qualities, if any of them actually do,
of course, we don't know that definitively. But I wouldn't
be surprised at all if they have some dog men
in the cage and are able to really study them
so they know premature everything about them, with all their
resources and abilities, wouldn't surprise me in the least. Let's
get another question up here. This one's from summer n
O seven, and she wants to know did you see
any strange lights before your encounters happened.
Speaker 3: No, I did not.
Speaker 2: Some my witnesses due some my witnesses don't. Most don't,
but some do for whatever reason. Bang Bang wants to know, Todd,
please elaborate on the reason the smell got on you.
Speaker 3: I just believe that I was that close, so close to.
Speaker 1: It, that that the smell had permeated around me.
Speaker 3: You know I was that close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. With the way they can stink, you don't have
to be all that close with that smell too on you.
So it's no wonder it did get on him. Gabriel
Hawkins wants to know, Vic, when will you do another
Q and A with us listeners. I'm not really sure.
I'm not really sure what I'm going to do another
Q and A, but maybe I'll do one before too long.
I try to just bring on new eyewitnesses and maybe
to mix things up, do a Q and A or
some other type of show once in a blue moon,
but don't really have one in the plan says of
right now, so I'm not really sure. This next question
for you is from ben youtubing, and they want to
know question for Vic, how did you become such an
expert on the dog Man and other cryptids. Well, number one,
there are no experts on dog men or any other cryptids.
What I know about dogmen is from a ridiculous amount
of exposure to eye witnesses. I mean I've spoken with
thousands upon thousands of them. If you speak with thousands
upon thousands of people who have had direct interactions with
grizzly bears, example, well, if you keep your ears open,
you're going to learn a tremendous amount about them. So
it's basically the same thing. But instead of talking about grizzlies,
here talking about dog men. I hope that answers that question.
And he wants to know, do you have your own
episode if you go to a channel on YouTube called
sawdust Beast. I was interviewed on there and I talked
about my sasquatch encounters or possible sasquatch encounters there, including
one that happened right around forty five years ago where
I think I had one thousand pounder just literally feet
behind me when I was deer hunting. So yeah, I
recommend you go check that out. This next question for
you is from t Bone, and I guess another question
directed towards me. Let's try to keep all the questions
focused on the guest here, on Todd and not on me.
I'll answer this one though. It says vic I recall
you mentioning you've seen footage of dog Man. Yes, I
have rather close up on trail cams. Yeah, definitely have
that as well. But have you seen any pictures or
videos circulating online that you believe to be authentic? Yes,
I most definitely have seen pictures circulating around the Internet
that are definitely authentic. Pictures that have been shared with
me that were really impressive photos, and then maybe a
year or two later, I'd see it pop up online
and then before you believe it, they were taken down.
Sometimes a person who posted it was just gone. I
don't know if they caught any blowback for posting that picture.
But like I've said countless times, if you make the
mistake of going public with any evidence about these things
that's too good, there's definite blowback. The government does not
want that. So I plan on doing what I do
for a long time, helping the eyewitnesses. If I didn't
know better, and if I made the mistake of putting
evidence out there for public consumption that was above a
certain level of even I wouldn't be allowed to help
the eyewitnesses. I disappear as well, and I'm not going
to make that mistake or let that happen. Let's move
on to the next question. This question is from Red
Edged Savage, and he wants to know, Todd, could you
tell if it had legs like a human in basic shape?
Speaker 1: It had legs like a dog, you know, anine. You know,
they were bent and it was walking up right.
Speaker 2: I'm still so impressed by all the details that you
noticed about that thing. Yeah, it's almost like you were
a trained observer. You did a really good job. Like
I told you before several times.
Speaker 3: Well, I call it like I see it. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good way to be and a good
thing to do. That's all you can do. Mary's got
the next one. She wants to know, did your father
have a talk with you about what he knew or
if he ever shared with you what he did It work.
Speaker 1: You know, especially with the OSI, and definitely with the CIA,
and some things that he learned in the when he
went to the FBI Academy. He hasn't divulged too much
of the FBI Academy, but we my brother and I
got to talk to him on Christmas Day and he
says that he told us that he's writing a book
and he's so hopefully he's going to disclose some of
the things he was never able to tell us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably so much that he wasn't allowed to
tell you if he actually was connected. That's just that
goes with the territory. It does. The next question is
from Nausea fourteen, and Nausea wants to know, I'm horrified
that people in the mobile home ignored your plea for help.
Did you ever encounter them again? And I agree, Naja,
that's horrible. Shame on them.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I was screaming on at deaf ears, you know, and
I felt really I felt really upset at you know,
after I got home, and to question why wouldn't they
open the door, you know, and help me? And the
only answer that I can come up with is that
you know, they knew what was down there, and they
want to get pulled into any kind of controversy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still they could have caused a little kid
to be killed out there because of their inaction, the
refusal to let you in. Shame on them. I don't
care what their concerns were you were in dire need
of assistance and they just turned the cold shoulder. So,
you know, like I said, shame on them. Looks like
Fred Caserta has the last question of the night. He
wants to know did the dog man or sasquatch breathe heavily?
Speaker 1: When the dog man screamed on me, screamed at me
so loud and so hard that the hair on my
head was being blown back and I was getting spit
on my face from this creature's mouth.
Speaker 3: What was the question about Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Well, he was wondering if they're breathing heavily, the dog
men or sasquatch, if they're breathing heavily like they're out
of breath, like they'd been running. No, no, yeah, that's
another one of those things where some dog men do
that when they encounter I witnesses, and others don't. Others
you don't hear them breathe for the most part. So yeah,
there's no rhyme nor reason on that. Well, before we
get out, if you're Todd, do you have any closes
in comments you'd like to put out there for us?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
Speaker 1: Thank the host you Vick and the people that were
tuned in tonight with their great questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did do a great job, a lot of
really good questions. Well, having said that, Todd, I can't
thank you enough for coming on sharing the details of
these experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh you know you're welcome. Thanks again so much for
your time, and have a great night. All right, everybody,
before we get out of here, just a couple of things.
Don't forget tomorrow night special live stream episode of the
show where Cam's going to come back on and bring
all of us up to speed and all these crazy
things that have been happening. And the second part is
if you've had a Dogman encounter of your own and
will like to come on the show and share it
with the listeners, or maybe you don't have an interest
in coming on the show, maybe you just need help
dealing with it, coming to terms with it, and neither case,
please go to Dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and
if you do that, then I'll be more than happy
to schedule a phone consultation with you so we can
find out what's ailing you and get you back to
good and by the way too. If you've had a
sasquatch sighting and we'd like to be a guest on
my bigfoot Sighting via my Bigfoot Sighting podcast that I
produce also in addition to Dogman Encounters here, please go
to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com submit a guest request,
and I'll reach out to you to get that set up. So,
having said all that, thanks again so much for listening
to everyone, and have a great night.