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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in

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Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jem Ram.

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.

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Thank you for telling a friend. I apologize for the

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late start tonight, Dan, the later start plan.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to apologize to me. It's a privilege

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to be here. I had to take a this is

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the this is the podcast.

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Speaker 2: To be on.

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Speaker 1: It's every day, it's live.

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Speaker 3: Well, although you know you probably get it, you're probably

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getting it listeners Thursday morning, but it's.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I put this up against anything, Rogan Parola, your

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Mom's podcast about tupperware.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: So I had to go to the bathroom and go

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to the bathroom. I had to go and then once

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I started going to the bathroom, going to the bathroom,

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which would be number two. That's why you say it twice.

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I uh, I couldn't stop. It just kept it was

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just like and not uncomfortable, just like whooh yeah relief.

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Then one of those.

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Speaker 1: Kids in school like slip your chocolate xlax.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, mister Moran, I'm no favorite teacher.

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Speaker 1: Won't try this candy bar.

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Speaker 2: They call me mister mister carry on my way and

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you know why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did I tell you why?

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Speaker 2: I never said my name one of the first times

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I was in there, so I had subbed for them

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back in the fall, just one day, one in and out,

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and that's part of the reason I'm back there now.

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And I'll explain this story later. But at that time,

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I never wrote I never. I wouldn't. I don't know

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how to do it, like I can relate to the kids,

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and I can actually teach the lower levels, right elementary,

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I mean I yeah, but uh, I never wrote. So

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one of the kids goes mister mister because they couldn't

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come up with my last name because I never said

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I'm mister Moran, so they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Write it on the black Now do they use blackboards anymore?

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Speaker 2: No, But there's a whiteboard, there's a marker board there,

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or there's a smartboard.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't believe that was more cost effective, but

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go ahead, so.

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Speaker 2: I uh so then I go, oh, you know what?

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That was a band in the eighties and it stuck.

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So now this one classic is just calls me mister,

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mister our friend racing Randy is holding on patiently. I

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want to get Randy on there. Hello, Randy, I don't

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know that we can see you. Hey, buddy, there's a

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black box. Okay. Well that's good.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 5: No, sir, I'm in the where the computer is, okay,

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and I usually don't work this thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that shows I got no freaking idea, buddy.

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Well do you have a camera on it?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it's a camera on her, but I

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don't know where to help whatever.

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Speaker 1: Is it a laptop, Randy, Rand Is it a laptop?

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Speaker 7: No, No, it's not a laptop.

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Speaker 1: Laptops have like a little eye at the top.

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Speaker 2: There is there's a chance. There is a chance this

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computer does not have a camera.

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Speaker 7: That's what this one does, because my granddaughter uses this thing. No,

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it does.

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Speaker 2: Your your brother, my brother. Yeah, he died three times

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at the hospital, boy, three.

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Speaker 1: For three for Dale Earnhardt, Dylan. I couldn't come back

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from that. This guy died three times.

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Speaker 2: I guess Jesus really didn't want him long.

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Speaker 6: If you kidd me, Jesus don't want him and Hell's

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afraid will take over.

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Speaker 1: Did he have any visions?

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Speaker 7: He was out four minutes. Was as long as he

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was out home. He's been home for since he happened

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two weeks ago today and he came home that Sunday.

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He's I gotta get home.

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Speaker 6: I gotta watch Dayton at five hundred. And I love

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Kyle Busch, but and I'm a Joey Lognald fan, but

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I'm gonna be wrong with Kyle Busch saying did Joey

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Lognal cause the accident?

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Speaker 7: He did not? There was a hole. He took it Stenhouse,

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that stupid son of a bitch to the fucking block

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earlier or.

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Speaker 6: Fucking just say it and on his lane and look,

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or got in front of Lognald and went through with

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him like a dumb ass. Here's the best part, the

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best part, like ten laps earlier talking and said, hey,

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you know, the guys in the back are to get

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to the front pretty sooner.

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Speaker 7: A're gonna run out of time with no ship.

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Speaker 1: This year year's winning it all, This year your overall

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favorite this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you it's gonna be Truthfully, I believe

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it's gonna be hard to be anybody at Penske Racing.

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It's gonna be Lognald or Blaine. It's gonna happen. We'll

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see what happens, you know. I mean there's a lot

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of guys like really need to bounce back, you know what,

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Larson and uh oh, he's great, Elliott, he needs to

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bounce back.

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Speaker 7: I mean Denny Hamler is Denny Hamlin. I don't like,

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he's not my favorite, okay, but he's the best driver.

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Speaker 5: Like Mark Martin who's never won a championship, you know,

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deserve it.

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Speaker 2: Randy? Are you talking with your hands?

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Speaker 7: Believe it?

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Speaker 2: I am, yeah, because I can't. I can hear your

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hand hitting the table like you're going, God damn making

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a point. God damn it. I'll tell you what that.

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Speaker 7: Okay, you see that? Did you see that? Bullshit? Nascar?

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Dead fucking them June and fucking stupid sons of bitches.

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Speaker 2: Wait, June, did you say.

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Speaker 6: Video buying times? We were to watch four goddamn races.

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The fuck is wrong with them?

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Speaker 7: This is like, yeah, I get pissed off, kissed me off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, it's you know what it sounds like?

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It's misplaced anger that way.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going on with Randy and he's taking

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it out a NASCAR. Why wouldn't you For all the

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money he spends the wakings glad he should have his

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own car named after him.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, we'll talk.

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Speaker 7: I don't worry. You gotta do some talking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool sounds good?

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Speaker 4: Randy? All right, buddy, ye see you and we will.

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Speaker 1: U we should take Randy out, nice old thank you

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for all the years? Is thatbody sounds like it?

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Speaker 2: Solf Butlery talked openly about being a substitute teacher, and I,

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uh I. I was asked by a principal to go

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and cover a sixth grade class because I had done

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it once or twice and the kids like me, and

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apparently apparently this class they're not bad, they're just kids.

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think like young kids or kids, like anybody. They almost

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like an animal. They can sense when you're scared, you know, right,

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you know they know? And so I'm just me and

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they liked me, and we talked, and I was cool

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because my thing was always basically, I'm here for a day.

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I don't need to screw up your world and make

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lots of rules and things. Let's just get through the day.

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You're cool, I'm cool. Maybe i'm you know, easy, but

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we're not gonna I'm not giving out homework and all

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this stuff. You know, your teacher come back here. That's

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and uh. I did that once twice and then they

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called me and said, listen, would you just cover for

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two weeks. So during kind of that awkward time when

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they're packed up and I try to get them to

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do something. So we play this game. They can log

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in on their laptop and they and it's an educational game.

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They have to and find like flags from around the

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country or whatever like that. But they get to pick

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their own code name. So I saw some because some

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kid wrote he used the girl's name, but it was,

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you know, like Danielle. Let's say, uh stinky Danielle. And

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I kicked that name out because I'm like, I know

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Danielle didn't write that, and I'm sure it's one of

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these other little dudes here and I get it. Why

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what in the end of the day, So I have

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to kick some of these out And there's more work here, dan.

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Their game is playing, they're playing the game is playing,

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and whoever scores the most points, there's a leaderboard and

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you'll pop up on the big screen at the front

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of the classroom, big giant screen, think just a huge one,

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and they're the name, but they get to pick their nicknames,

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and huge erection, huge g direction is there, and I

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have to go all right, you know, cause.

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Speaker 1: Like I gotta be the guy. Yeah, I got the

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guy who.

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Speaker 2: Did dick jokes on the radio for thirty years, the

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guy who did every stupid thing, the guy who would

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call bars back in the day when I was afternoons

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and see him in the south and just prove how

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dumb they were, would ask for huge erection, you know, right,

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and yeah, and so I I say, who did All

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of a sudden like that name drops down from the

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leaderboard and never to be heard from again, never seen,

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never anything, so kind of who did it?

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Speaker 4: Who did it?

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Speaker 2: And I don't really think it's that big a deal.

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I just don't, okay, But well I guess I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what the right thing is.

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Speaker 3: So to me, it's because you're at the age now

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where you realized, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, is this really that when I get deal. Yeah,

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when I said that, I'm I'm at an age, I

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was the huge erection guy. Yeah. I. We would go

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to the payphone, punish went. We went to the payphone

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give of my high school. That's hold I phone. We

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would scrounge up a corner. We'd drop it in there

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and it would be at school, but there was the

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sports stuff, and sometimes our practice may and a little earlier,

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especially if the weather was a little question, and you'd

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have twenty thirty minutes before the bus came, so you

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would go down. I don't even know why we went

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down there, because the bus wouldn't even come to that entrance,

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but we would go walk all the way down. We'd

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get to the phone. All the main office, okay, and

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poor missus bay, oh boy, this is babysitting there, and

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we'd say uh, because sometimes if you had a deeper voice,

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you would be the one to do it. And sometimes

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you even try to make it deeper and go, hey, uh,

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this is mister hunt. Uh can you page my son Mike.

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Speaker 4: I need to.

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Speaker 2: I need to get him. And then we'd sit there

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and we count. Then I I need hear rumbling on

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the phone because there was a phone and I was here.

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You have a phone call count you would be fucking

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howling howling. This is that huge erection got in there

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and I go, I was kickings out. I didn't see it.

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I go, you got one, buy me good job?

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Speaker 1: Is what I want to think in my dominic hashik.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought I was good.

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Speaker 1: Thought I was huge.

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Speaker 2: Erection got in slid.

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Speaker 1: Right in there, and so you bet you and that called.

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Speaker 2: Huge wretch our playing student. So this lovely woman who

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teaches on the other side of the wall, she comes

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over and she says to me, I heard this kid,

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and I you know, during that time she was I

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was right there.

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Speaker 4: She goes, who was sitting back here? And I go, well,

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the usual suspects.

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Speaker 2: You know who they are, But I know who they

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are because I knew them. I here's here's why I

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like where I was in life. I walk in a

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classroom and I can spot exactly who I can almost

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profile every kid. I don't know what that is, but

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know exactly who each kid in this room is. I

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know you're an a student. I know you you should

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be an a student, but you're me, and you know,

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I mean I I can see it. I see all that.

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could see who is what right? And she said, uh,

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you know, I just wanted you to know I did

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I have to write them up. And I just said

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to her, I don't. I don't. I said, what do

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they do? No, might might be a lunch attention whatever.

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to her, I go, I don't want the kids to

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hate having to come here because all I am is

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in trouble. And she said, yes, but we also have

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to kind of curb things in because they do go

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on to high school. And she's right, and you need

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to have some societal norms and you got to know

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how to behave in certain situations. It's like, you know,

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they're going to push the envelope and this is this

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is what they do. And I was hoping that it

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wasn't necessarily an indictment on me. I didn't hear the

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kids say it. He may have said it, and it

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might I might have gone, yeah, you're not kidding. I

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don't even know. I may have said it, like it

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never ever ever hit me that he said, Hell, I

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just never hit me.

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Speaker 1: So but well, yeah, because think of all the dirty words.

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Speaker 3: There was one time where when we were working with

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Rich he was a producer, George Carlin had died and

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Tim Russer had died the same time. So Tim Russer

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is lying in state in DC, which Tommy thought was

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what was ridiculous, And he goes, so what we ought

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to do is a week later, George Carlin does, we

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ought to honor George Carlin the Wave Washington, and then

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he honored Tim Russer. We're gonna play some of Carlin's

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old bits.

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Speaker 1: So he hands me the CD.

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Speaker 3: I go in, Yes, CD, folks, I go in to

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edit out all the swear words, and two or three would.

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Speaker 1: Get by me. And Tommy goes, yeah, you cout desensitize

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to it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: The word hell, it's something we were desensitized to like

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thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, like the S word, the F word. Those

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are words that.

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Speaker 2: Are like, oh, you're rasist what I should say with

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like a kid, right, But I I just it just

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never I swear I didn't hear it. I may have.

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I'm wondering if I even react I may have turned

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around and going, goddamn right, let me crack a window.

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I don't know. I didn't. I mean, I haven't. I

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don't speak that way in front of the kids like

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the other day. But we were doing the size of cells,

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the size of atoms, and you can look on this tool,

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and one kid goes, wow, uranus is so big, right,

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And so I go, you mean urinus? And what And

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I go, it's uranus and you know it's uranus. But

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then later on I go, what do you think is well,

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what do you think the sides of the molecules are

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on uranus? And they fucking fell out of their chairs.

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But here's the problem with that. You blur the lines, right,

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you know, you blur the lines. I say, right, exactly, lass,

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So I always love this.

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Speaker 1: I know you won't swear. You need to swear.

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Speaker 2: So we now huge directions up there, so I see it.

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I asked, who's huge direction? And I kind of figured

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out I could if you line guys up and you

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had me on the other side of the glass, I

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think I got a seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Percent chance a better hitting the right person.

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Speaker 2: But I can give you the four suspects that were

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there so I'm talking to this teacher and I mentioned

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I go, yeah, I want.

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Speaker 4: She goes, ooh, She's like, who did it? And I

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said I don't. I don't really know. She said, well,

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who do you think did it? And then I go, oh,

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here's one or two. She goes, not this. I go,

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absolutely not. He was not part of the game. He

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was walking around at the Indiana Life sudden and I go,

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I go, I don't.

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, you don't understand. She's like, that is

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like over the line. And I go yeah, And I

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tell her the story about calling the main office and

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getting Mike Hunt paged, and she goes, yeah, but that

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was one to one. I go, no, it wasn't. I go.

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She goes, this is like for the entirely. I go, like,

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this was for everybody in the building.

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Speaker 4: My country have a phone call.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what right? And missus Bay who you thought

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knew every kid in the school or old kids went there?

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So she said no. She's like, there will be parent

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complaints if some kid goes home and says they were uncomfortable.

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And she goes, you've got kids in here, and and

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I go, yeah, but so this is what I said.

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She says said, there will be parent complaints, right, And

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I said, I go really, She's like, oh yeah, and

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she said that that's the thing, the parent emails and

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things I mean, and I went, yeah, that's stuff. I

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don't even think about it. I go, I come from

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a career and I have not said to anybody that

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I was on the radio for. I just don't talk

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about it. I came from a career of She goes,

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I know, like, okay, we yeah, yes, yes. So then

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she said no, you don't understand, and I go, well, yeah,

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but I don't want that kid to hate school because

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now he says all I did was one thing that

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she goes, they know better, and she goes, and what

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about the kid that really is uncomfortable with that? What

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about the kid who never feels like they can really

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say anything. They're soft spoken and they and I'm like,

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she goes, they need to be comfortable to school. To

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valid argument, I can't. I mean, it's a valid argument.

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Speaker 1: I just is that language really making you uncomfort I

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don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the case, you should be homeschooled.

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Speaker 2: Well here's the thing I can't. I'm with. I hear

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what you're saying, but I can't Christian Dan talk. I

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can't dictate to that. And the thing is it would

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be probably filed under sexual harassment at most businesses too.

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I saw a story today, Danny and I don't know,

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and that's will take us into another topic too. But

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thirty one year old Indiana math teacher, Indiana math teacher

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just similar on the one name is Britney Very starts

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with sex conduct after the abutance, having sex.

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Speaker 1: With the come up with my fort and Berry's fifteen

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year old.

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Speaker 2: According to court documents, the teacher sent explicit photos via Snapchat,

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including images of sex toys and a stripper pull in

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her home before initiating physical encounters the fifteen year old victims.

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Suggested there could have been as many as ten other victims.

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Ten other victims, Is this weird to me that you

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would do that. When initially confronted about sending inappropriate images

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to students, Forton blamed her behavior on her recent one

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hundred and fifty pound weight loss. She started getting attention

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she never had in her entire life. She mentally, I

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will use the word because it is be retarded at

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like sixteen or seventeen. Just stopped, maybe even emotionally developing

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or whatever happened. That here's the only thing that I

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could go armchair psychologists growth that we would probably because

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usually if you lost one hundred and fifty pounds and

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in your thought, it's a good chance you were fat

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in high school, don't you think even if you were

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twenty five pounds overweight or fifty pounds overweight high school, Yeah,

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you were high school husky. And you know what I mean,

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high school husky. And she probably never got the attention.

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And so now all the boys are like dam you know,

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behind them, and.

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Speaker 1: You're amazing how her mind always goes back to high school. Yes,

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doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: It doesially scarring. We say, like give me the seven

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and you got kind of the base characteristics. But you know,

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there were a thing that could really be uh I

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think there you determines trauma traumata.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like I was told, like I was my

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class president our twentieth anniversary. I was told by a

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couple of people, so it's not coming.

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Speaker 6: Are they.

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Speaker 3: All legitimate reasons? And one that was ridiculous. The ridiculous

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reason was, well, I lost my virginity to this guy

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who I mentioned earlier. In the podcast, and it was

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supposed to be to somebody else, and so I always

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felt bad about that.

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Speaker 1: I just knew him.

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Speaker 3: I go, well, they graduated with us, and this guy

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ended up like stealing a lot of money somewhere, so

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from another classmate's mom. So I don't think you have

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to worry. He hasn't been invited. Oh good, oh good.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, maybe you should talk to a psychologist

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about this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I don't even think he's thinking about that.

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Speaker 2: So this teacher losing that way now, all of a sudden,

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and a group of boys from the age i'll say

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twelve to eighteen, maybe twenty five, but a group of

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boys walking and walking around and they see a hot take,

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one of them will do some kind of cat call

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or something like damn right. But that way you can't

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really identify who it is because they're in a group. Yeah,

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they're not gonna do it one on one, but group mentality,

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I'm safe, So I'll be and I'll make my boys laugh.

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Speaker 1: A little boystern into wolves.

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Speaker 2: So she was immediately suspended when allegations surfaced, and resigned

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the next day. This all happened August twenty second, and

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twenty third of last year. She now faces multiple charges,

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including sexual misconduct, the psychological impact act of this it

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can be bad. And this kid is saying like he

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was molested.

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Speaker 4: That's what he says.

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Speaker 2: So his great it sounds like he lives with his grandmother.

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Speaker 4: His grandmother is like losing her mind over this.

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Speaker 2: Uh. But this woman, she lost one hundred and fifty

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pounds soson, Wow, she wore. She lost more than Jamison Yeat. Yeah,

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lost one hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 1: She left the junior she lost, She lost the freshman

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in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she lost a freshman in high school and and

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gained multiple.

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Speaker 1: Fight mister Rogers, that's right. She lost like mister Rogers.

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Speaker 3: Like, the thing was he he weighed one hundred and

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forty three pounds his entire adult life, one four to three.

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Speaker 1: That was a big thing. I love you. That's his

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whole thing.

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Speaker 3: I love you, And it was like in his mood

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in his documentary, the big thing was he he maintained

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one hundred and forty three pounds.

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Speaker 1: This woman lost a mister Rogers plus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did a supersize, mister Rogers is what she

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lost sweater at all.

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Speaker 1: But sulking wet.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's strange. As you go, you wonder

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like you would take somebody like this and feature them

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in a weight loss commercial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right before and way before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't you like that?

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Speaker 1: Why did you?

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Speaker 2: How did you lose all this weight? High school boys?

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Speaker 3: That's saw I get think we had a boss who

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like who like half his own cars, Like, oh my gosh,

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we thought you're big.

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Speaker 2: Now yeah, so you know, you go have unprecedented and

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everybody does. But educators too have an unprecedented uh digital

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access to communicate with kids right off school grounds and

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out of the sight of school anything, right. I mean,

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I will say the private school my kid went to

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monitored social media as well as I think you can

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write anything that eminated from their school and went out.

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Speaker 4: They knew about it.

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Speaker 2: And anything that they got wind of that happened on

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the weekend, something done, it a wind of it, and

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they were looking not to get kids in trouble. But

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there was a standard. You know, you got to meet

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the standard. And I don't know, you get these unfettered access,

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what responsibility does everybody kind of share in it in

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recognizing and addressing these kind of issues that's the part

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that you know, you start seeing warning signs of predatory stuff.

474
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You like to think that, you know, Rachel is just

475
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,960
a good and by the way, married woman, thirty one

476
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,079
year old married woman lost one hundred and fifty pounds

477
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,240
because you were her fat boyfriend, right, you know what

478
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:34,880
I mean? That's the fat hurt.

479
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Speaker 3: I know more women she's lost weight and man and

480
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now he just shed the pounds, but shed the hound.

481
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they shed the pound, the hound, the whole thing.

482
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You got it, Danny Good.

483
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Speaker 1: Their waitresses work for my uncle, I real coming back

484
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from college. Wait is that Soto? Oh yeah, Oh you

485
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,519
didn't hear about this? Yeah, like what No, she she

486
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680
lost one hundred pounds, she dyed her hair, and she

487
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got rid of her husband.

488
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Speaker 5: Actually, there were some interest moments, like when Barbara Walters

489
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:06,160
asked Monica did you ever think about Hillary?

490
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Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I don't do women, so

491
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,319
I don't know. Even the crowd was like.

492
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Speaker 2: No, you think this is the last role here of Monica?

493
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,119
You think this is it? Now? Can we stop with this?

494
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: How you think her fifteen minutes of staying are finally over?

495
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:26,559
Speaker 2: Thank you very much? Well over on CBS shaniah Twain had.

496
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Her big musical special. I felt sorry for Shani.

497
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,279
Speaker 2: See that brings up the age old question of guys,

498
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,839
who do you watch the nice girl, the pretty girl

499
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,960
you can take home to mom, or the chief slender

500
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,759
girl you know puts out everybody goes to Monica. Oh

501
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,400
see see like And was Monica really like that? I

502
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,640
don't know. That's the stuff that looking back over so

503
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:52,920
many years, knowing that you're twenty three and all this stuff,

504
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:53,519
you know.

505
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Speaker 1: I think most twenty three year old women would have

506
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gotten caught up.

507
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Speaker 4: In the scene.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too. But I can't say

509
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:04,079
you can't. You can't say there's no culpability there, No, can't.

510
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 4: She's not an idiot. She's not an idiot.

511
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,839
Speaker 1: She's responsible. She's got a white house in dirt chips

512
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,079
can't be stupid. Actually, if you.

513
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,519
Speaker 2: Look at Washington, I don't know, but I'm just I'm

514
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:13,720
just saying, uh.

515
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker almost got to got to the sentence.

516
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,519
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody's got an IQ of like eighty the New

517
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,519
York Jets, herson wants chicken Wings.

518
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,039
Speaker 2: I had had a very disappointing season.

519
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,519
Speaker 1: Didn't they diagnose it? With schizophreddie at one point.

520
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, did they?

521
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: I think so Hersel's hungry? Do you know what Herssel

522
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,799
likes to eat? He would ask his wife.

523
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Speaker 2: Uh, the New York Jets had a disappointing season more

524
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:44,799
than that, and now that disappointing season has quantifiable evidence

525
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200
behind it, would that be fair to say, Dan, this

526
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:51,240
is fantastic. I love it. As the owner, Woody Johnson

527
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:54,160
has officially earned the worst owner grade in the NFL,

528
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,160
according to the nfl PA, which is the NFL's Players

529
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,200
Association's annual report card. The players are Association surveyed its

530
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,599
members to create a quote unquote free agency guide, so

531
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teams who know or players whould know what teams are

532
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,279
really like. Now, don't forget last year at the bottom

533
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,799
of the lifts, the chiefs in facilities, Yes, right, in facilities.

534
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

535
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson, I think had a bus plummeted to an

536
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:28,079
f Players specifically criticized Johnson for his perceived unwillingness to

537
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,119
invest in facilities. They looked nice on all the stuff

538
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,160
I saw, but I don't.

539
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 4: Know, didn't they harden not?

540
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: Actually his negative impact on team culture and his questionable

541
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,880
commitment to building a competitive team. The Jet season was

542
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119
marked by controversies, including the midseason firing of Robert Salam.

543
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,279
Reports that Johnson veto to trade because a player's Madden

544
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,279
rating was too low.

545
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. Diana Rossini from The Athletic documented all this.

546
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,039
Speaker 2: Letting your son run your team based on Madden or

547
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,799
social media is kind of like letting your favorite bartender

548
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359
do your surgery because they watched grays of atomy. You

549
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,759
know what I mean. It's like the same thing.

550
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:12,279
Speaker 1: In my head.

551
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,799
Speaker 2: I go, you just you wouldn't do that, right.

552
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,559
Speaker 1: So let's put it this way. Who's the biggest Bills fan.

553
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: We know the biggest Bill's biggest Bills fan?

554
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,799
Speaker 3: You and I both know Greg Greg Connors, Right, Greg

555
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,640
Connors I think could own an NFL team.

556
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,599
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but I think Greg Connors would know all right.

557
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: If I'm going to own the team, I need to

558
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
hire the right people to show me my blind spots

559
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,920
and what I don't know?

560
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

561
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: And Whatody Johnson is I think a fourth generation heir

562
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,839
of the Johnson and Johnson throne or something like that.

563
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,759
And he has never once tried to figure out his

564
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:46,400
blind spots.

565
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,759
Speaker 2: Okay, but hang on a second now, because here, here's

566
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:55,559
here's where my thinking goes. As fans, we constantly blame

567
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,880
coaches and players refts a little bit, but coaches and players.

568
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I blind coaches and players.

569
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: What would it take for fans to successfully pressure an

570
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:10,000
owner like Woody, who's worth billions and ranks dead last

571
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:14,440
among his peers in terms of ownership, to actually sell

572
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,920
a historic franchise. Could the fans get that that he's

573
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,200
running into the ground. Could fans do something because normally

574
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,079
we would say it's the players, and it is, it's

575
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359
the culture, it's the whole mint mess. But he seems

576
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,920
to be the guy stirring the pot.

577
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Speaker 3: I think the pain to change has to be great,

578
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,559
has to be less than the pain to stay the same. Yes, right,

579
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:39,119
I think if you're a Jets fan, you gotta you

580
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,680
can read New Yar's season tickets because you want to

581
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,480
keep them for the next guy.

582
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,079
Speaker 1: Sure, but don't go to games. Just eat the money.

583
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:44,920
Just just eat the.

584
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: Tickets or try or sell or sell them to every

585
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,920
team's opponent that's coming to town, or whatever you cannot

586
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,440
I mean, or because the only way this guy's gonna

587
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,039
get caned is if the owners all oust him. Stan

588
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,519
Snyder pretty much got forced out because as he found

589
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,680
out he was stealing money from the other owners.

590
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,599
Speaker 1: There was other there's a lot of it took, but

591
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,039
it took him mountain of evidence. It like a ten

592
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,440
year investigation to get him out. And he's still they

593
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:11,839
still like almost didn't do it.

594
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,839
Speaker 2: So we're not we're not hearing allegations of sexual harassment. No,

595
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,200
but he's just an ask yes, okay, So it's a

596
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:22,319
bad owner. So here's my question. How much influence does

597
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,359
an owner have on day to day the day to

598
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,359
day operation as much as he wants? Okay, so we

599
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:32,319
I say that, and and of course we all think

600
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,599
of the biggest owner in the NFL, the guy the team. Yeah,

601
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160
they don't go to the coach, he smiles. They start

602
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,599
they I am the owner. I have a general manager.

603
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I did the press conference right right, And he's

604
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,799
the reason why Diane ain't coaching the Cowboys right now? Well,

605
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:51,440
the right, Brian Schottenheimer. Yeah, I mean you may as

606
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,839
well hired Greg Connors to coach team. Okay, I think

607
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:55,839
Greg would do a better job.

608
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Speaker 1: Greig would ever take that if Jerry called Greg Up,

609
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:00,759
you think he'd the Bills for.

610
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Well, we're talking to Jerry Jones as an owner. Yes, right,

611
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480
is very outspoken in the day to day operations. The

612
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,640
media goes There's no other team that the media talks

613
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,839
to the owner before they talk to the coach and players.

614
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,319
Speaker 3: There's only been a handful of teams that do this

615
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720
done this in history. When George Steinberner was available, the

616
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:18,680
media would go to George.

617
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

618
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: When when Al Davis was headed all his marbles, everybody

619
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,440
would go to Al.

620
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: They wouldn't go to the head coach. They would go

621
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,240
to Al.

622
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,359
Speaker 3: Okay, there's not many teams and they're not successful historically

623
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,599
long term. The Raiders he got away with it because

624
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:34,519
they won a few championships. But he had good coaches

625
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:35,240
and good players.

626
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Right. But I mean, look, is I would say Terry Pagoula,

627
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,359
is he as involved in the day to day operation

628
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,440
of the Bills, I would think, I don't think so.

629
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Speaker 3: I think he lets Pete Gwelly and Brandon Bean and

630
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Sean McDermott who I think. I think Sean McDermott and

631
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,359
Peak Welley are the most powerful guys in the organization.

632
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,559
Speaker 1: Okay, they're running the show.

633
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,839
Speaker 3: He's just there to like sign the checks and make

634
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,079
sure like he's dealing with like the building and everything else,

635
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,000
the new stadium.

636
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's tinkering, and in fact, I know

637
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:00,799
he is.

638
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,519
Speaker 2: Because I mean, and at what point does the NFL

639
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:09,319
step in if ownership gets toxic? And yet at the

640
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:12,519
same time a low NFLPA thing? Is this just players

641
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:13,599
airing their grievances.

642
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: That's all it is. So that's all it is, right,

643
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,960
and it doesn't it's.

644
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Just a way to apply pressure on problematic franchises.

645
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

646
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it's something, right. I don't know how the

647
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:26,720
bills graded.

648
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: Oh, the bills were interesting. They went from eleventh last

649
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,200
year overall to twenty third. They dropped twelve points and

650
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200
they got an F minus. And team travel saying that

651
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:42,359
the coaches and the administrators get to sit in first

652
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,319
class on the plane while the rest of the team

653
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,119
has to sit behind them in these cramped little spaces.

654
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Apparently the team plane isn't big enough.

655
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,079
Speaker 3: Okay, And to me, it's like you're on a chartered

656
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,319
shet since you all be in first class, since you

657
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,839
all get the first class tam Well apparently, like you know,

658
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,680
Terry's not spending the money on travel. They got an

659
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,759
F minus in that head coach and ownership got a B.

660
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,960
Last year they both got a's. Okay, so that is

661
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,920
down a letter grade. Head coach ranks twenty seventh in

662
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,039
the NFL. So what that tells me is that after

663
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:11,960
the grades came out the last couple of years, I

664
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,400
think the coaches have become more player friendly, so they're

665
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,319
tied has risen. So I don't think that Sean McDermott's

666
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,319
become a worst coach. I think everybody else has just

667
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,079
gotten better with their players. So that, I mean, a

668
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,559
B is still a hell of a grade for a

669
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
head coach. You know, ownership is still a B. So

670
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:29,480
they still like Terry.

671
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: He's ranked seventeenth in the NFL. But I mean there's

672
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:33,920
some other stuff.

673
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: Where you know there here's a big one. The training

674
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,559
staff got a C, which was twenty seventh in the NFL.

675
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,000
Everything else is a B. Are up their weight rooms

676
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:44,799
in A and you also to remember with the facilities

677
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,359
and everything else, they are building a new stadium, so

678
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,160
that's gonna go up.

679
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:50,799
Speaker 1: Terry Pagol is not going to spend money on new facilities.

680
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,839
Speaker 3: With the current facilities, He's gonna put all that money

681
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,759
into the new stadium, so when they get over there,

682
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,200
those grades will rise automatically in another year. So overall,

683
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,079
I think the Bills did okay. With Woody Johnson and

684
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,720
the Jets, there's.

685
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Nothing I mean. The guy is still he was an

686
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,480
ambassador to Ireland. The guy's got a ton of power.

687
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,119
Speaker 3: If they couldn't get Dan Schneider out of football and

688
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,319
believe he wouldn't sell us, they basically hold the gun

689
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:14,640
in his head. And they got a huge He got

690
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,079
a huge profit on it. He made like one thousand

691
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:19,720
percent of what he paid for that franchise, which, by

692
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:21,440
the way, Washington, until he got his hands on it

693
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,119
was a historic, yeah franchise, they were heritage and if

694
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,799
they were like one of the top eight most popular

695
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
teams in the league until he got his hands on it.

696
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: And I think they're on their way back up. I

697
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:30,839
really do.

698
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: It's Woodie Johnson would basically have to pull a Donald

699
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,119
Sterling to get tossed from the NFL.

700
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 2: All right, Danny, I gotta wrap this up since they're thirty. First,

701
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,480
I have to go to the bathroom so badly.

702
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: The Patriots are thirty first think the worst than the Jets.

703
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,559
Speaker 2: Kevin take that. Yeahs Cat, I don't know he had

704
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,200
hockey stuff.

705
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,599
Speaker 1: Okay, mess him, missus wantong soups.

706
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 2: For Dan, Burrello for Race and Randy for Dan. Who

707
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,880
my god. I tell you what, I just drop a

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little bit of sports stuff. You can elaborate.

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Speaker 1: You know it all are attention.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, but you you're like in depth.

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Speaker 1: That was great. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next time. We're kind

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of like with Tanna see