Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jem Ram.
Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.
Thank you for telling a friend. I apologize for the
late start tonight, Dan, the later start plan.
Speaker 1: You don't have to apologize to me. It's a privilege
to be here. I had to take a this is
the this is the podcast.
Speaker 2: To be on.
Speaker 1: It's every day, it's live.
Speaker 3: Well, although you know you probably get it, you're probably
getting it listeners Thursday morning, but it's.
Speaker 1: You know, it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I put this up against anything, Rogan Parola, your
Mom's podcast about tupperware.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: So I had to go to the bathroom and go
to the bathroom. I had to go and then once
I started going to the bathroom, going to the bathroom,
which would be number two. That's why you say it twice.
I uh, I couldn't stop. It just kept it was
just like and not uncomfortable, just like whooh yeah relief.
Then one of those.
Speaker 1: Kids in school like slip your chocolate xlax.
Speaker 2: I don't know, mister Moran, I'm no favorite teacher.
Speaker 1: Won't try this candy bar.
Speaker 2: They call me mister mister carry on my way and
you know why?
Speaker 4: Yeah, did I tell you why?
Speaker 2: I never said my name one of the first times
I was in there, so I had subbed for them
back in the fall, just one day, one in and out,
and that's part of the reason I'm back there now.
And I'll explain this story later. But at that time,
I never wrote I never. I wouldn't. I don't know
how to do it, like I can relate to the kids,
and I can actually teach the lower levels, right elementary,
I mean I yeah, but uh, I never wrote. So
one of the kids goes mister mister because they couldn't
come up with my last name because I never said
I'm mister Moran, so they didn't.
Speaker 1: Write it on the black Now do they use blackboards anymore?
Speaker 2: No, But there's a whiteboard, there's a marker board there,
or there's a smartboard.
Speaker 1: But I didn't believe that was more cost effective, but
go ahead, so.
Speaker 2: I uh so then I go, oh, you know what?
That was a band in the eighties and it stuck.
So now this one classic is just calls me mister,
mister our friend racing Randy is holding on patiently. I
want to get Randy on there. Hello, Randy, I don't
know that we can see you. Hey, buddy, there's a
black box. Okay. Well that's good.
Speaker 1: Sounds like I was just gonna say.
Speaker 5: No, sir, I'm in the where the computer is, okay,
and I usually don't work this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that shows I got no freaking idea, buddy.
Well do you have a camera on it?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it's a camera on her, but I
don't know where to help whatever.
Speaker 1: Is it a laptop, Randy, Rand Is it a laptop?
Speaker 7: No, No, it's not a laptop.
Speaker 1: Laptops have like a little eye at the top.
Speaker 2: There is there's a chance. There is a chance this
computer does not have a camera.
Speaker 7: That's what this one does, because my granddaughter uses this thing. No,
it does.
Speaker 2: Your your brother, my brother. Yeah, he died three times
at the hospital, boy, three.
Speaker 1: For three for Dale Earnhardt, Dylan. I couldn't come back
from that. This guy died three times.
Speaker 2: I guess Jesus really didn't want him long.
Speaker 6: If you kidd me, Jesus don't want him and Hell's
afraid will take over.
Speaker 1: Did he have any visions?
Speaker 7: He was out four minutes. Was as long as he
was out home. He's been home for since he happened
two weeks ago today and he came home that Sunday.
He's I gotta get home.
Speaker 6: I gotta watch Dayton at five hundred. And I love
Kyle Busch, but and I'm a Joey Lognald fan, but
I'm gonna be wrong with Kyle Busch saying did Joey
Lognal cause the accident?
Speaker 7: He did not? There was a hole. He took it Stenhouse,
that stupid son of a bitch to the fucking block
earlier or.
Speaker 6: Fucking just say it and on his lane and look,
or got in front of Lognald and went through with
him like a dumb ass. Here's the best part, the
best part, like ten laps earlier talking and said, hey,
you know, the guys in the back are to get
to the front pretty sooner.
Speaker 7: A're gonna run out of time with no ship.
Speaker 1: This year year's winning it all, This year your overall
favorite this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you it's gonna be Truthfully, I believe
it's gonna be hard to be anybody at Penske Racing.
It's gonna be Lognald or Blaine. It's gonna happen. We'll
see what happens, you know. I mean there's a lot
of guys like really need to bounce back, you know what,
Larson and uh oh, he's great, Elliott, he needs to
bounce back.
Speaker 7: I mean Denny Hamler is Denny Hamlin. I don't like,
he's not my favorite, okay, but he's the best driver.
Speaker 5: Like Mark Martin who's never won a championship, you know,
deserve it.
Speaker 2: Randy? Are you talking with your hands?
Speaker 7: Believe it?
Speaker 2: I am, yeah, because I can't. I can hear your
hand hitting the table like you're going, God damn making
a point. God damn it. I'll tell you what that.
Speaker 7: Okay, you see that? Did you see that? Bullshit? Nascar?
Dead fucking them June and fucking stupid sons of bitches.
Speaker 2: Wait, June, did you say.
Speaker 6: Video buying times? We were to watch four goddamn races.
The fuck is wrong with them?
Speaker 7: This is like, yeah, I get pissed off, kissed me off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, it's you know what it sounds like?
It's misplaced anger that way.
Speaker 3: I think they're going on with Randy and he's taking
it out a NASCAR. Why wouldn't you For all the
money he spends the wakings glad he should have his
own car named after him.
Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, we'll talk.
Speaker 7: I don't worry. You gotta do some talking.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool sounds good?
Speaker 4: Randy? All right, buddy, ye see you and we will.
Speaker 1: U we should take Randy out, nice old thank you
for all the years? Is thatbody sounds like it?
Speaker 2: Solf Butlery talked openly about being a substitute teacher, and I,
uh I. I was asked by a principal to go
and cover a sixth grade class because I had done
it once or twice and the kids like me, and
apparently apparently this class they're not bad, they're just kids.
But I guess they really. I mean, I'm starting to
think like young kids or kids, like anybody. They almost
like an animal. They can sense when you're scared, you know, right,
you know they know? And so I'm just me and
they liked me, and we talked, and I was cool
because my thing was always basically, I'm here for a day.
I don't need to screw up your world and make
lots of rules and things. Let's just get through the day.
You're cool, I'm cool. Maybe i'm you know, easy, but
we're not gonna I'm not giving out homework and all
this stuff. You know, your teacher come back here. That's
and uh. I did that once twice and then they
called me and said, listen, would you just cover for
two weeks. So during kind of that awkward time when
they're packed up and I try to get them to
do something. So we play this game. They can log
in on their laptop and they and it's an educational game.
They have to and find like flags from around the
country or whatever like that. But they get to pick
their own code name. So I saw some because some
kid wrote he used the girl's name, but it was,
you know, like Danielle. Let's say, uh stinky Danielle. And
I kicked that name out because I'm like, I know
Danielle didn't write that, and I'm sure it's one of
these other little dudes here and I get it. Why
what in the end of the day, So I have
to kick some of these out And there's more work here, dan.
Their game is playing, they're playing the game is playing,
and whoever scores the most points, there's a leaderboard and
you'll pop up on the big screen at the front
of the classroom, big giant screen, think just a huge one,
and they're the name, but they get to pick their nicknames,
and huge erection, huge g direction is there, and I
have to go all right, you know, cause.
Speaker 1: Like I gotta be the guy. Yeah, I got the
guy who.
Speaker 2: Did dick jokes on the radio for thirty years, the
guy who did every stupid thing, the guy who would
call bars back in the day when I was afternoons
and see him in the south and just prove how
dumb they were, would ask for huge erection, you know, right,
and yeah, and so I I say, who did All
of a sudden like that name drops down from the
leaderboard and never to be heard from again, never seen,
never anything, so kind of who did it?
Speaker 4: Who did it?
Speaker 2: And I don't really think it's that big a deal.
I just don't, okay, But well I guess I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what the right thing is.
Speaker 3: So to me, it's because you're at the age now
where you realized, Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, is this really that when I get deal. Yeah,
when I said that, I'm I'm at an age, I
was the huge erection guy. Yeah. I. We would go
to the payphone, punish went. We went to the payphone
give of my high school. That's hold I phone. We
would scrounge up a corner. We'd drop it in there
and it would be at school, but there was the
sports stuff, and sometimes our practice may and a little earlier,
especially if the weather was a little question, and you'd
have twenty thirty minutes before the bus came, so you
would go down. I don't even know why we went
down there, because the bus wouldn't even come to that entrance,
but we would go walk all the way down. We'd
get to the phone. All the main office, okay, and
poor missus bay, oh boy, this is babysitting there, and
we'd say uh, because sometimes if you had a deeper voice,
you would be the one to do it. And sometimes
you even try to make it deeper and go, hey, uh,
this is mister hunt. Uh can you page my son Mike.
Speaker 4: I need to.
Speaker 2: I need to get him. And then we'd sit there
and we count. Then I I need hear rumbling on
the phone because there was a phone and I was here.
You have a phone call count you would be fucking
howling howling. This is that huge erection got in there
and I go, I was kickings out. I didn't see it.
I go, you got one, buy me good job?
Speaker 1: Is what I want to think in my dominic hashik.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought I was good.
Speaker 1: Thought I was huge.
Speaker 2: Erection got in slid.
Speaker 1: Right in there, and so you bet you and that called.
Speaker 2: Huge wretch our playing student. So this lovely woman who
teaches on the other side of the wall, she comes
over and she says to me, I heard this kid,
and I you know, during that time she was I
was right there.
Speaker 4: She goes, who was sitting back here? And I go, well,
the usual suspects.
Speaker 2: You know who they are, But I know who they
are because I knew them. I here's here's why I
like where I was in life. I walk in a
classroom and I can spot exactly who I can almost
profile every kid. I don't know what that is, but
I can. I can look down and I go, I
know exactly who each kid in this room is. I
know you're an a student. I know you you should
be an a student, but you're me, and you know,
I mean I I can see it. I see all that.
So I could see these kids, even this age. I
could see who is what right? And she said, uh,
you know, I just wanted you to know I did
I have to write them up. And I just said
to her, I don't. I don't. I said, what do
they do? No, might might be a lunch attention whatever.
And my point with it was like, and I said
to her, I go, I don't want the kids to
hate having to come here because all I am is
in trouble. And she said, yes, but we also have
to kind of curb things in because they do go
on to high school. And she's right, and you need
to have some societal norms and you got to know
how to behave in certain situations. It's like, you know,
they're going to push the envelope and this is this
is what they do. And I was hoping that it
wasn't necessarily an indictment on me. I didn't hear the
kids say it. He may have said it, and it
might I might have gone, yeah, you're not kidding. I
don't even know. I may have said it, like it
never ever ever hit me that he said, Hell, I
just never hit me.
Speaker 1: So but well, yeah, because think of all the dirty words.
We had a dumping radio dude.
Speaker 3: There was one time where when we were working with
Rich he was a producer, George Carlin had died and
Tim Russer had died the same time. So Tim Russer
is lying in state in DC, which Tommy thought was
what was ridiculous, And he goes, so what we ought
to do is a week later, George Carlin does, we
ought to honor George Carlin the Wave Washington, and then
he honored Tim Russer. We're gonna play some of Carlin's
old bits.
Speaker 1: So he hands me the CD.
Speaker 3: I go in, Yes, CD, folks, I go in to
edit out all the swear words, and two or three would.
Speaker 1: Get by me. And Tommy goes, yeah, you cout desensitize
to it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: The word hell, it's something we were desensitized to like
thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, like the S word, the F word. Those
are words that.
Speaker 2: Are like, oh, you're rasist what I should say with
like a kid, right, But I I just it just
never I swear I didn't hear it. I may have.
I'm wondering if I even react I may have turned
around and going, goddamn right, let me crack a window.
I don't know. I didn't. I mean, I haven't. I
don't speak that way in front of the kids like
the other day. But we were doing the size of cells,
the size of atoms, and you can look on this tool,
and one kid goes, wow, uranus is so big, right,
And so I go, you mean urinus? And what And
I go, it's uranus and you know it's uranus. But
then later on I go, what do you think is well,
what do you think the sides of the molecules are
on uranus? And they fucking fell out of their chairs.
But here's the problem with that. You blur the lines, right,
you know, you blur the lines. I say, right, exactly, lass,
So I always love this.
Speaker 1: I know you won't swear. You need to swear.
Speaker 2: So we now huge directions up there, so I see it.
I asked, who's huge direction? And I kind of figured
out I could if you line guys up and you
had me on the other side of the glass, I
think I got a seventy five.
Speaker 4: Percent chance a better hitting the right person.
Speaker 2: But I can give you the four suspects that were
there so I'm talking to this teacher and I mentioned
I go, yeah, I want.
Speaker 4: She goes, ooh, She's like, who did it? And I
said I don't. I don't really know. She said, well,
who do you think did it? And then I go, oh,
here's one or two. She goes, not this. I go,
absolutely not. He was not part of the game. He
was walking around at the Indiana Life sudden and I go,
I go, I don't.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, you don't understand. She's like, that is
like over the line. And I go yeah, And I
tell her the story about calling the main office and
getting Mike Hunt paged, and she goes, yeah, but that
was one to one. I go, no, it wasn't. I go.
She goes, this is like for the entirely. I go, like,
this was for everybody in the building.
Speaker 4: My country have a phone call.
Speaker 2: I mean, what right? And missus Bay who you thought
knew every kid in the school or old kids went there?
So she said no. She's like, there will be parent
complaints if some kid goes home and says they were uncomfortable.
And she goes, you've got kids in here, and and
I go, yeah, but so this is what I said.
She says said, there will be parent complaints, right, And
I said, I go really, She's like, oh yeah, and
she said that that's the thing, the parent emails and
things I mean, and I went, yeah, that's stuff. I
don't even think about it. I go, I come from
a career and I have not said to anybody that
I was on the radio for. I just don't talk
about it. I came from a career of She goes,
I know, like, okay, we yeah, yes, yes. So then
she said no, you don't understand, and I go, well, yeah,
but I don't want that kid to hate school because
now he says all I did was one thing that
she goes, they know better, and she goes, and what
about the kid that really is uncomfortable with that? What
about the kid who never feels like they can really
say anything. They're soft spoken and they and I'm like,
she goes, they need to be comfortable to school. To
valid argument, I can't. I mean, it's a valid argument.
Speaker 1: I just is that language really making you uncomfort I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the case, you should be homeschooled.
Speaker 2: Well here's the thing I can't. I'm with. I hear
what you're saying, but I can't Christian Dan talk. I
can't dictate to that. And the thing is it would
be probably filed under sexual harassment at most businesses too.
I saw a story today, Danny and I don't know,
and that's will take us into another topic too. But
thirty one year old Indiana math teacher, Indiana math teacher
just similar on the one name is Britney Very starts
with sex conduct after the abutance, having sex.
Speaker 1: With the come up with my fort and Berry's fifteen
year old.
Speaker 2: According to court documents, the teacher sent explicit photos via Snapchat,
including images of sex toys and a stripper pull in
her home before initiating physical encounters the fifteen year old victims.
Suggested there could have been as many as ten other victims.
Ten other victims, Is this weird to me that you
would do that. When initially confronted about sending inappropriate images
to students, Forton blamed her behavior on her recent one
hundred and fifty pound weight loss. She started getting attention
she never had in her entire life. She mentally, I
will use the word because it is be retarded at
like sixteen or seventeen. Just stopped, maybe even emotionally developing
or whatever happened. That here's the only thing that I
could go armchair psychologists growth that we would probably because
usually if you lost one hundred and fifty pounds and
in your thought, it's a good chance you were fat
in high school, don't you think even if you were
twenty five pounds overweight or fifty pounds overweight high school, Yeah,
you were high school husky. And you know what I mean,
high school husky. And she probably never got the attention.
And so now all the boys are like dam you know,
behind them, and.
Speaker 1: You're amazing how her mind always goes back to high school. Yes,
doesn't it?
Speaker 2: It doesially scarring. We say, like give me the seven
and you got kind of the base characteristics. But you know,
there were a thing that could really be uh I
think there you determines trauma traumata.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like I was told, like I was my
class president our twentieth anniversary. I was told by a
couple of people, so it's not coming.
Speaker 6: Are they.
Speaker 3: All legitimate reasons? And one that was ridiculous. The ridiculous
reason was, well, I lost my virginity to this guy
who I mentioned earlier. In the podcast, and it was
supposed to be to somebody else, and so I always
felt bad about that.
Speaker 1: I just knew him.
Speaker 3: I go, well, they graduated with us, and this guy
ended up like stealing a lot of money somewhere, so
from another classmate's mom. So I don't think you have
to worry. He hasn't been invited. Oh good, oh good.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, maybe you should talk to a psychologist
about this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't even think he's thinking about that.
Speaker 2: So this teacher losing that way now, all of a sudden,
and a group of boys from the age i'll say
twelve to eighteen, maybe twenty five, but a group of
boys walking and walking around and they see a hot take,
one of them will do some kind of cat call
or something like damn right. But that way you can't
really identify who it is because they're in a group. Yeah,
they're not gonna do it one on one, but group mentality,
I'm safe, So I'll be and I'll make my boys laugh.
Speaker 1: A little boystern into wolves.
Speaker 2: So she was immediately suspended when allegations surfaced, and resigned
the next day. This all happened August twenty second, and
twenty third of last year. She now faces multiple charges,
including sexual misconduct, the psychological impact act of this it
can be bad. And this kid is saying like he
was molested.
Speaker 4: That's what he says.
Speaker 2: So his great it sounds like he lives with his grandmother.
Speaker 4: His grandmother is like losing her mind over this.
Speaker 2: Uh. But this woman, she lost one hundred and fifty
pounds soson, Wow, she wore. She lost more than Jamison Yeat. Yeah,
lost one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: She left the junior she lost, She lost the freshman
in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she lost a freshman in high school and and
gained multiple.
Speaker 1: Fight mister Rogers, that's right. She lost like mister Rogers.
Speaker 3: Like, the thing was he he weighed one hundred and
forty three pounds his entire adult life, one four to three.
Speaker 1: That was a big thing. I love you. That's his
whole thing.
Speaker 3: I love you, And it was like in his mood
in his documentary, the big thing was he he maintained
one hundred and forty three pounds.
Speaker 1: This woman lost a mister Rogers plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did a supersize, mister Rogers is what she
lost sweater at all.
Speaker 1: But sulking wet.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's strange. As you go, you wonder
like you would take somebody like this and feature them
in a weight loss commercial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right before and way before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't you like that?
Speaker 1: Why did you?
Speaker 2: How did you lose all this weight? High school boys?
Speaker 3: That's saw I get think we had a boss who
like who like half his own cars, Like, oh my gosh,
we thought you're big.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, so you know, you go have unprecedented and
everybody does. But educators too have an unprecedented uh digital
access to communicate with kids right off school grounds and
out of the sight of school anything, right. I mean,
I will say the private school my kid went to
monitored social media as well as I think you can
write anything that eminated from their school and went out.
Speaker 4: They knew about it.
Speaker 2: And anything that they got wind of that happened on
the weekend, something done, it a wind of it, and
they were looking not to get kids in trouble. But
there was a standard. You know, you got to meet
the standard. And I don't know, you get these unfettered access,
what responsibility does everybody kind of share in it in
recognizing and addressing these kind of issues that's the part
that you know, you start seeing warning signs of predatory stuff.
You like to think that, you know, Rachel is just
a good and by the way, married woman, thirty one
year old married woman lost one hundred and fifty pounds
because you were her fat boyfriend, right, you know what
I mean? That's the fat hurt.
Speaker 3: I know more women she's lost weight and man and
now he just shed the pounds, but shed the hound.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they shed the pound, the hound, the whole thing.
You got it, Danny Good.
Speaker 1: Their waitresses work for my uncle, I real coming back
from college. Wait is that Soto? Oh yeah, Oh you
didn't hear about this? Yeah, like what No, she she
lost one hundred pounds, she dyed her hair, and she
got rid of her husband.
Speaker 5: Actually, there were some interest moments, like when Barbara Walters
asked Monica did you ever think about Hillary?
Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I don't do women, so
I don't know. Even the crowd was like.
Speaker 2: No, you think this is the last role here of Monica?
You think this is it? Now? Can we stop with this?
Speaker 1: How you think her fifteen minutes of staying are finally over?
Speaker 2: Thank you very much? Well over on CBS shaniah Twain had.
Speaker 1: Her big musical special. I felt sorry for Shani.
Speaker 2: See that brings up the age old question of guys,
who do you watch the nice girl, the pretty girl
you can take home to mom, or the chief slender
girl you know puts out everybody goes to Monica. Oh
see see like And was Monica really like that? I
don't know. That's the stuff that looking back over so
many years, knowing that you're twenty three and all this stuff,
you know.
Speaker 1: I think most twenty three year old women would have
gotten caught up.
Speaker 4: In the scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too. But I can't say
you can't. You can't say there's no culpability there, No, can't.
Speaker 4: She's not an idiot. She's not an idiot.
Speaker 1: She's responsible. She's got a white house in dirt chips
can't be stupid. Actually, if you.
Speaker 2: Look at Washington, I don't know, but I'm just I'm
just saying, uh.
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker almost got to got to the sentence.
Speaker 3: Okay, everybody's got an IQ of like eighty the New
York Jets, herson wants chicken Wings.
Speaker 2: I had had a very disappointing season.
Speaker 1: Didn't they diagnose it? With schizophreddie at one point.
Speaker 4: I don't know, did they?
Speaker 1: I think so Hersel's hungry? Do you know what Herssel
likes to eat? He would ask his wife.
Speaker 2: Uh, the New York Jets had a disappointing season more
than that, and now that disappointing season has quantifiable evidence
behind it, would that be fair to say, Dan, this
is fantastic. I love it. As the owner, Woody Johnson
has officially earned the worst owner grade in the NFL,
according to the nfl PA, which is the NFL's Players
Association's annual report card. The players are Association surveyed its
members to create a quote unquote free agency guide, so
teams who know or players whould know what teams are
really like. Now, don't forget last year at the bottom
of the lifts, the chiefs in facilities, Yes, right, in facilities.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson, I think had a bus plummeted to an
f Players specifically criticized Johnson for his perceived unwillingness to
invest in facilities. They looked nice on all the stuff
I saw, but I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, didn't they harden not?
Speaker 2: Actually his negative impact on team culture and his questionable
commitment to building a competitive team. The Jet season was
marked by controversies, including the midseason firing of Robert Salam.
Reports that Johnson veto to trade because a player's Madden
rating was too low.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. Diana Rossini from The Athletic documented all this.
Speaker 2: Letting your son run your team based on Madden or
social media is kind of like letting your favorite bartender
do your surgery because they watched grays of atomy. You
know what I mean. It's like the same thing.
Speaker 1: In my head.
Speaker 2: I go, you just you wouldn't do that, right.
Speaker 1: So let's put it this way. Who's the biggest Bills fan.
Speaker 2: We know the biggest Bill's biggest Bills fan?
Speaker 3: You and I both know Greg Greg Connors, Right, Greg
Connors I think could own an NFL team.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but I think Greg Connors would know all right.
Speaker 3: If I'm going to own the team, I need to
hire the right people to show me my blind spots
and what I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: And Whatody Johnson is I think a fourth generation heir
of the Johnson and Johnson throne or something like that.
And he has never once tried to figure out his
blind spots.
Speaker 2: Okay, but hang on a second now, because here, here's
here's where my thinking goes. As fans, we constantly blame
coaches and players refts a little bit, but coaches and players.
Speaker 1: I blind coaches and players.
Speaker 2: What would it take for fans to successfully pressure an
owner like Woody, who's worth billions and ranks dead last
among his peers in terms of ownership, to actually sell
a historic franchise. Could the fans get that that he's
running into the ground. Could fans do something because normally
we would say it's the players, and it is, it's
the culture, it's the whole mint mess. But he seems
to be the guy stirring the pot.
Speaker 3: I think the pain to change has to be great,
has to be less than the pain to stay the same. Yes, right,
I think if you're a Jets fan, you gotta you
can read New Yar's season tickets because you want to
keep them for the next guy.
Speaker 1: Sure, but don't go to games. Just eat the money.
Just just eat the.
Speaker 3: Tickets or try or sell or sell them to every
team's opponent that's coming to town, or whatever you cannot
I mean, or because the only way this guy's gonna
get caned is if the owners all oust him. Stan
Snyder pretty much got forced out because as he found
out he was stealing money from the other owners.
Speaker 1: There was other there's a lot of it took, but
it took him mountain of evidence. It like a ten
year investigation to get him out. And he's still they
still like almost didn't do it.
Speaker 2: So we're not we're not hearing allegations of sexual harassment. No,
but he's just an ask yes, okay, So it's a
bad owner. So here's my question. How much influence does
an owner have on day to day the day to
day operation as much as he wants? Okay, so we
I say that, and and of course we all think
of the biggest owner in the NFL, the guy the team. Yeah,
they don't go to the coach, he smiles. They start
they I am the owner. I have a general manager.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did the press conference right right, And he's
the reason why Diane ain't coaching the Cowboys right now? Well,
the right, Brian Schottenheimer. Yeah, I mean you may as
well hired Greg Connors to coach team. Okay, I think
Greg would do a better job.
Speaker 1: Greig would ever take that if Jerry called Greg Up,
you think he'd the Bills for.
Speaker 2: Well, we're talking to Jerry Jones as an owner. Yes, right,
is very outspoken in the day to day operations. The
media goes There's no other team that the media talks
to the owner before they talk to the coach and players.
Speaker 3: There's only been a handful of teams that do this
done this in history. When George Steinberner was available, the
media would go to George.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: When when Al Davis was headed all his marbles, everybody
would go to Al.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't go to the head coach. They would go
to Al.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's not many teams and they're not successful historically
long term. The Raiders he got away with it because
they won a few championships. But he had good coaches
and good players.
Speaker 2: Right. But I mean, look, is I would say Terry Pagoula,
is he as involved in the day to day operation
of the Bills, I would think, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think he lets Pete Gwelly and Brandon Bean and
Sean McDermott who I think. I think Sean McDermott and
Peak Welley are the most powerful guys in the organization.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're running the show.
Speaker 3: He's just there to like sign the checks and make
sure like he's dealing with like the building and everything else,
the new stadium.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's tinkering, and in fact, I know
he is.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, and at what point does the NFL
step in if ownership gets toxic? And yet at the
same time a low NFLPA thing? Is this just players
airing their grievances.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. So that's all it is, right,
and it doesn't it's.
Speaker 2: Just a way to apply pressure on problematic franchises.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's something, right. I don't know how the
bills graded.
Speaker 3: Oh, the bills were interesting. They went from eleventh last
year overall to twenty third. They dropped twelve points and
they got an F minus. And team travel saying that
the coaches and the administrators get to sit in first
class on the plane while the rest of the team
has to sit behind them in these cramped little spaces.
Speaker 1: Apparently the team plane isn't big enough.
Speaker 3: Okay, And to me, it's like you're on a chartered
shet since you all be in first class, since you
all get the first class tam Well apparently, like you know,
Terry's not spending the money on travel. They got an
F minus in that head coach and ownership got a B.
Last year they both got a's. Okay, so that is
down a letter grade. Head coach ranks twenty seventh in
the NFL. So what that tells me is that after
the grades came out the last couple of years, I
think the coaches have become more player friendly, so they're
tied has risen. So I don't think that Sean McDermott's
become a worst coach. I think everybody else has just
gotten better with their players. So that, I mean, a
B is still a hell of a grade for a
head coach. You know, ownership is still a B. So
they still like Terry.
Speaker 1: He's ranked seventeenth in the NFL. But I mean there's
some other stuff.
Speaker 3: Where you know there here's a big one. The training
staff got a C, which was twenty seventh in the NFL.
Everything else is a B. Are up their weight rooms
in A and you also to remember with the facilities
and everything else, they are building a new stadium, so
that's gonna go up.
Speaker 1: Terry Pagol is not going to spend money on new facilities.
Speaker 3: With the current facilities, He's gonna put all that money
into the new stadium, so when they get over there,
those grades will rise automatically in another year. So overall,
I think the Bills did okay. With Woody Johnson and
the Jets, there's.
Speaker 1: Nothing I mean. The guy is still he was an
ambassador to Ireland. The guy's got a ton of power.
Speaker 3: If they couldn't get Dan Schneider out of football and
believe he wouldn't sell us, they basically hold the gun
in his head. And they got a huge He got
a huge profit on it. He made like one thousand
percent of what he paid for that franchise, which, by
the way, Washington, until he got his hands on it
was a historic, yeah franchise, they were heritage and if
they were like one of the top eight most popular
teams in the league until he got his hands on it.
Speaker 1: And I think they're on their way back up. I
really do.
Speaker 3: It's Woodie Johnson would basically have to pull a Donald
Sterling to get tossed from the NFL.
Speaker 2: All right, Danny, I gotta wrap this up since they're thirty. First,
I have to go to the bathroom so badly.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are thirty first think the worst than the Jets.
Speaker 2: Kevin take that. Yeahs Cat, I don't know he had
hockey stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, mess him, missus wantong soups.
Speaker 2: For Dan, Burrello for Race and Randy for Dan. Who
my god. I tell you what, I just drop a
little bit of sports stuff. You can elaborate.
Speaker 1: You know it all are attention.
Speaker 2: No, I know, but you you're like in depth.
Speaker 1: That was great. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next time. We're kind
of like with Tanna see