WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:10.960 Welcome friends, jacky hyeah about. 2 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.000 Welcome to Movie Film. It's episode three forty three. I'm 3 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:22.559 Zaki Hassan. I'm here with Brian Hall. 4 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:23.839 Heay, how's it going, Zachi? 5 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:28.280 Hey, it's going. Uh. You know, obviously we struggle to 6 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.399 find time to record, but occasionally the schedules line up 7 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:33.399 and you might say, this is. 8 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:38.799 The way, yes, yes, uh yeah about that later, well, 9 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:40.280 I was gonna say, I'm glad that we were able 10 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.920 to see it pretty quickly and get this out pretty quickly, 11 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.280 so people who are excited and catching the movie this 12 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:46.920 weekend will have this right away for them. 13 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.320 We're talking about the Mandalorian and Grogo of course, but 14 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:52.520 but you gotta you gotta hang in if you want 15 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:56.119 to hear that discussion, and if you want to get 16 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.159 to that discussion without hearing any ads, I would recommend 17 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.200 a subscribing to our Patreon feed right. 18 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.079 Right, oh yeah, over patreon dot com. Slash Movie Film 19 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:08.120 Podcast only five dollars a month. Every commentary we've done, 20 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:10.400 every episode. You'll find ad free over there, and you 21 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.519 also find bonus episodes and we just dropped one that 22 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.079 was like about an hour long. Yeah, and I mean 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.920 we covered everything from our Masters of the Universe, the 24 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:25.599 upcoming film It's Tracking, It's Toys, We talked about all 25 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:30.959 the popcorn bucket phenomenon, hemping at movie theaters, and we 26 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.840 even talked about the two thousand and one time capsule 27 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:41.120 that is the movie Swordfish. So it was a packed 28 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.040 episode and a lot of fun and I think a 29 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:44.519 lot of people would enjoy it, and you can find 30 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:46.599 it exclusively over at our Patreon feed. 31 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:50.000 It was packed full of tomfoolery. 32 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:51.760 It really was. 33 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.239 In fact, there was so much buffoonery Tommy Lee Jones 34 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:57.319 would not sanction it. 35 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:02.159 Right, Yes, it was a lot of that. Yeah, as 36 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:02.959 is his way. 37 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:06.079 As is his way. This is good stuff. Speaking of 38 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:07.400 good stuff, what have you seen lately? 39 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.039 You know, I saw a couple of things. 40 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:11.280 I don't want to talk about them, but I had 41 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.639 an observation recently that I thought i'd share that I 42 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.080 thought you might appreciate. So I have a friend from 43 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:22.639 a past job and he is acquaintances with the band 44 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.039 the Afghan Whigs. You know, they were probably most prominent 45 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.439 in the nineties, but you know they can continue to 46 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.599 tour and I've seen them a couple of times because 47 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.520 my friend is able to bring me and we get 48 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:36.479 free tickets and all that sort of thing. And so 49 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:41.159 I saw them this past week. And then I also 50 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:44.599 mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, I saw the 51 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.120 movie Carrie at one of those outdoor screenings. 52 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.520 Yeah right, and something occurred to me. 53 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.560 The last time. Well, at one of those outdoor screenings 54 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.919 a couple of years ago, it was very cool. I 55 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:58.759 saw Natalie Portman walking around and I. 56 00:02:58.719 --> 00:02:59.599 Was like, oh, Natalie Portman. 57 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:00.360 She was like a star. 58 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:01.039 That's kind of cool. 59 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.840 She's like here at this event. And then the last 60 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.120 time I saw the Afghan Whigs, I saw Heather Graham. 61 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:08.560 I was like, Heather Graham. I've had a crush on 62 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.039 her since I was a teenager licensed to drive, Like, wow, 63 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:14.400 that's amazing. So when I saw Carrie a couple of 64 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:18.719 weekends ago, I saw this guy and I told my friends. 65 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:20.960 I was like, hey, that's I follow that guy on Instagram. 66 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.199 He's a comedian. He's really funny. His name's Luke Strickler 67 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.240 and and everyone's like who. And then when I went 68 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.120 to the Afghan Whigs this past week, I saw this 69 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:33.960 guy and I nudged my friend and go, hey, that's 70 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.680 this guy. I fall on Instagram. His name is Jacob Gibbons. 71 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.400 He's like a nineties music officionado. He does good stuff 72 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.639 and he's like huh, And I was like, isn't this fascinating? 73 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.759 A couple of years ago, it was like all these 74 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:51.639 like celebrities that you would like bump into or see 75 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.560 or like, oh, I'm rubbing shoulders with these these celebrities. 76 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.000 And now I'm realizing that recently it's just been like influencers. 77 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:02.560 Like there, I'm recognizing these influencers in the wild. It's 78 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.080 just like I don't know that I've fully figured out 79 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.479 what my thought about that is or my comedic take, 80 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.520 but like, I just found it kind of interesting. 81 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.639 You know, tell me you're very online. That's what it 82 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:14.120 tells me. 83 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.879 I suppose, or at least in my corners. That's the thing. 84 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.160 These people didn't know who like when I was you 85 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:20.399 know at that that's a good point. 86 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:21.120 Natalie Portman. 87 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:22.959 I was like, oh wow, you know, like trying to 88 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:24.879 get a picture of her like from a distance and stuff. 89 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:27.439 And funny enough, she was with Questlove so they were 90 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.839 hanging out together, which is like that's wow, how about that? 91 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:34.000 But this is like that real minutia, you know of 92 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:34.839 your algorithm. 93 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.759 Yeah, Like this real niche comedian who I do think 94 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:40.120 is funny. 95 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:41.120 His name is Luke Strickler. 96 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.839 He has this his video that had like millions of 97 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:45.439 views that I think blew up, was called I Love 98 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:50.000 the Office, which I think our listeners might find funny. 99 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.480 But anyway, I don't know, it's just kind of a funny. 100 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.199 Like how about that, you know, like those are the 101 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.279 people now that I'm seeing at these events, and you know, 102 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.759 it's exciting to me in a way, I guess, but 103 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.000 it's harder to share with people. 104 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.240 Yeah, you know, I don't know. 105 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.600 Didn't see Heather Graham this past week, and. 106 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:13.879 That's the shame. I honestly, I didn't realize until you 107 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.079 said it just now that she was in License to Drive. 108 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:21.959 Yeah, she's the Mercedes the girl that Corey Haim has 109 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:22.480 a crush on. 110 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:24.759 Yeah, I know the name of the character. I saw 111 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:26.920 that movie in the early part of the nineties. That's 112 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:28.040 probably last time I saw it. 113 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.720 So oh man, I don't know how that became sort 114 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.879 of like a Hall Family classic. I think because we 115 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:35.959 didn't have cable, so like we would take movies off 116 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:37.560 of TV when they were on, and so we would 117 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.879 revisit those a lot, even if I don't know they 118 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.839 weren't as big a deal to other people, Like I 119 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.160 always bring up The Hard Way that Michael J. Fox 120 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.720 James Woods movie, which for us was kind of like 121 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:48.639 a Hall Family classic because we had taken on TV 122 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:50.560 and watched it all the time. But yeah, I love 123 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:51.279 License to Drive. 124 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:55.079 To me, Heather Graham will always be a girl who 125 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.639 may be accidentally sleeping with her brother in that one movie. 126 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.759 That's a fairly brother movie, right. 127 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:02.279 I think so, Yeah, I forget say it isn't so 128 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.560 I think that's I'm just joking. I know her, of course, 129 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.759 as Judy Robinson and Lost in Space. 130 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.199 I keep thinking you're gonna say Austin Powers, but you 131 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.600 keep going into other Yeah that too, that. 132 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:20.079 Too, Boogey Knights of course, you know, oh yeah that too. Yeah. 133 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.480 Anyway, Well, speaking of classic films of yesteryear, I'm just 134 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.560 I'm not gonna talk about them too much. But I 135 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:32.120 feel like Regal I should be an influencer for Regal 136 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.600 Cinemas because I talk about them so much. But they're 137 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.959 each month they've been doing their special series where they 138 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.079 program literally every single day there's a movie that is 139 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:45.120 part of a series that they throw that's themed each month, 140 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.439 and this month is musicals. And so I saw a 141 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:52.319 Footloose for the first time. I've never seen it before. 142 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:56.480 The og one yeah, with Kevin Bacon and Singing in 143 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.439 the Rain, which I had seen before. 144 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:00.399 But like, I love that movie. 145 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.480 Oh it's so good, and seeing it on the big screen, 146 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.920 and you know when you got the three of them 147 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.480 dancing side by side in sync and just seeing it 148 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.360 larger than life and it's you just marvel at it. 149 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.279 You know, it's it's really special. So if people can 150 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.519 make it out to those, I highly recommend checking out 151 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.399 their schedule and seeing Yeah, I mean the movies are 152 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.120 all over the place too, I mean Singing in the 153 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.000 Rain and then one night it was like the Hairspray 154 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.519 remake and then I think almost Famous last Night, Blues 155 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.079 Brothers next week, So it's definitely worth checking out. 156 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.160 But uh, okay, I'm. 157 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.079 Gonna talk about three things, one of two of them 158 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:38.319 kind of quick. I caught a movie called deep Water. 159 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.680 Okay, have you heard of this? Is this like fall? No? 160 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:47.199 It's not? Okay, what do you mean? Like? What we 161 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.800 gonna the movie isn't it The Fall? The Fall? You know? 162 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:54.240 Uh, well, no, it's it's it's different. 163 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.399 Basically, it's a shark movie, okay, just is it like 164 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.519 with sharks but like The Fall? Yeah? 165 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.000 I get well, you know, okay, I think I see 166 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:04.800 what you're saying, like sort of in that genre. 167 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And this is it's true. 168 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:08.839 Who shouldn't be somewhere? 169 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:14.360 Yes, but this is basically okay, it's directed by Rennie Harlan, 170 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:21.800 and it's got Aaron Eckert and Ben Kingsley, And basically 171 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:28.199 there's a commercial airliner that has issues over the ocean, 172 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.240 crash lands and the people who survived have to figure 173 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:32.320 out how to get rescued. 174 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.679 But there's sharks swimming in the water, gotcha. 175 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:36.200 Okay. 176 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.639 So I was vaguely aware of this, and my friend 177 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:40.720 was like, Hey, do you want to go see this? 178 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:45.480 And I was like, eh, sure, you know, like you know, 179 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:49.879 why not? And so I had little to no expectations 180 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.600 and I was totally surprised by the end where I 181 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.639 was like, Hey, that was fun. And I say that 182 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:59.679 because this is like not a great movie, like this 183 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:04.159 is a this is a B movie, Okay, Okay, Honestly, 184 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:05.600 I had this thought and I said it to my 185 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:08.120 friend and he was like, yes, exactly. It felt like 186 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.720 a script that was originally in another language, and like 187 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.879 someone someone who lied about being fluent in languages translated 188 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:21.080 it like that's kind of what it feels like. And 189 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:24.639 it even sort of reminded me of like those vertical dramas. 190 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.279 I haven't seen a lot of them, but you get. 191 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.879 The idea where it's like there are these very broad 192 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.240 tropy situations and characters who are super round the nose, 193 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.519 like he's the er villain and she's the h like 194 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:39.120 person who needs. 195 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:43.039 Rescuing and he's the hero. Like that's as deep as 196 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:47.679 this movie is. But at the same time, sometimes stuff 197 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:50.320 that on the nose does tap into the core of 198 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.600 what we respond to, like we do want to see 199 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.080 the bad guy get his come up. It's we do 200 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:01.440 want to see the hero act heroically, and this movie 201 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.480 kind of taps into that, you know, so, and and 202 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.080 there was some Rennie Harland. 203 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:10.200 He's got like a. 204 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.879 A a zest, you know, to the way that he 205 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.200 films things, Like I know he hasn't worked on anything 206 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.360 sort of major in several sorts of years, but when 207 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.799 this started and they were filming, you know, setting up 208 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.600 all the people who were going to watch, you know, 209 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:29.000 all the not stereotypes, but like caricatures of types of 210 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.840 people where it's like the nice family, the guy who's 211 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.159 annoying everyone, you know, the jock who is it nice 212 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:38.000 to the nerdy guy. You know, like when they're setting 213 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.320 all that up. As simple as that stuff is, it's 214 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:41.480 filmed really well. 215 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:43.200 Like it's I was. 216 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.480 Like, oh, what an interesting idea putting the camera there. 217 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.919 I wouldn't have thought of that, but that it's very cinematic, 218 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.399 you know. I was thinking about it like this is 219 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.399 elevating something very simple. 220 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:54.600 That could have been like a TV movie in the 221 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:55.480 eighties or something. 222 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.039 And you know, and then there's the moment where I 223 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.159 talk about this all the time, where someone is really 224 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.360 like annoying you or he's really bad, and I'm like, I. 225 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.480 Just throw him to the sharks, you know. 226 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.480 But then the hero doesn't do that, and you're like, 227 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.080 right right, nope, that's better. 228 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:13.559 That's better. 229 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.919 I wish I was like him, Like it has those 230 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.440 kinds of moments. And of course, I mean, like a spoiler, 231 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.399 like the jock ends up being nice to the nerd 232 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.200 because the NERD's nice to the job, you know, like 233 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:23.039 this stuff is so sick. 234 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.639 I'm not watching it now, so thanks for ruining it. 235 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.879 Well, I'm just saying, like it's so simple. I just 236 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.840 want to be clear. But like streaming this on a 237 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:36.960 Friday night, it was enjoyable. I was surprised that I 238 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.039 found it enjoyable, so I thought it was at least 239 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:39.720 worth mentioning. 240 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:41.360 Scratch that itch for you. 241 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.120 I think someday it is going to be on Netflix. 242 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.559 Probably it won't won't be long, but. 243 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.639 And you could you could do worse. It's and it 244 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.399 is kind of fun, you know, the what would you 245 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:53.480 do of it all? 246 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:54.919 In a way, you know, when you're stuck in the 247 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:59.039 ocean and you have limited resources. So anyway, I thought 248 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.399 i'd uh acknowledge. 249 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.919 It, consider it acknowledged. 250 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.480 Yeah, well, I now I have a movie on a 251 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:11.399 TV show, So I caught The Sheep Detectives have you. 252 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.039 Feels like it came kind of out of nowhere and 253 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.600 everyone was like, hey, this is really good. 254 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:19.039 Yeah, I've been wanting to see it. 255 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:21.840 Yeah, so basically Hugh Jackman plays a shepherd. 256 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.639 I should say I've been wanting to see this and 257 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.000 Mortal Kombat too, very different. I was hoping to make 258 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.039 a make one day of it and just really give 259 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:35.600 myself a a migraine from from the from the the 260 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:37.960 ricocheting tones, you know. 261 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:40.519 Yeah, well you know what though, that's the thing. 262 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.519 Sometimes you're in the mood for either or right, Like 263 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.399 we're kind of like at all but the sheep detectives 264 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.679 basically okay, okay. So Hugh Jackman plays a shepherd who 265 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.519 reads mystery novels to his sheep every night, and then 266 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.519 one morning, the sheep find that their shepherd has been murdered, 267 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:00.440 and so they're like, wait a minute, like, we've learned 268 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.559 a lot from these mystery novels he's read to us. 269 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.759 Maybe we can solve his murder. Which is an insane plot. 270 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.960 Can you imagine being in a room pitching that, like 271 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.519 to Disney or something like the sheep will solve the 272 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:17.360 shepherd's murder. And this comes from I think a couple writers, 273 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.639 but one of them is Craig Mason, which is very 274 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:25.840 interesting because he did Chernobyl. Uh oh did he? I 275 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:30.320 know he did one of those sort of like more 276 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.159 comedic sorts of things. But recently he's been doing the 277 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.240 Last of Us Chernobyl. 278 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:40.039 Yep, he wrote Hangover two and three at least. 279 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.360 Oh wow, Okay, So I mean his so isn't that fascinating? 280 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:47.039 I mean his output is all over quite the filmography 281 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.159 of course he eped Last of Us. 282 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:52.320 Yeah, exactly. And so I was just very curious what 283 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.679 this would even be like. And I would say it 284 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.000 feels similar to me. 285 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:00.000 It's been a while, but to something like Babe, where 286 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:04.559 where you know it's talking animals, but it has a 287 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:09.639 real sincere heart to it. You know, so you get 288 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.480 the pleasure of something that like kids will enjoy, and 289 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:17.159 you know, sheep making kind of funny faces and reacting 290 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.639 strangely to things that we know are usual, like they 291 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.840 have to cross a road and they're like what is 292 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:25.039 that because they've never seen it before. 293 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:26.639 They've always been in a field. And you get that 294 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:29.159 kind of fun silliness. But then there's also you know, 295 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:33.639 you learn more about the shepherd and how he treated 296 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.720 all the sheep, and there's you know, different sheep that 297 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:38.480 don't get along, but he loved all of them, and 298 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:40.440 they're like maybe they can learn to get along too. 299 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:45.279 You know, that like really does successfully tug at the heartstrings. 300 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.279 I think and you know, I mean it's light, it is. 301 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.320 It feels like a movie, you know, for like a 302 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:53.000 younger audience. 303 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.480 But I went and saw at the theater and it 304 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.279 was all adults, you know, and I think everybody kind 305 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.159 of walked out with a while on their face. So 306 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.960 I think this is a nice movie, and it's it's 307 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:09.799 I would say for kids, it's I mean, very clean. 308 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:11.360 I would say. 309 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:15.480 The only thing is the sheep literally learn about death. 310 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.840 Like that's kind of their arc is they don't really 311 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.919 understand what death is at the beginning, and over the 312 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:25.240 course of this they have to learn what it is 313 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:29.159 to have someone die and how to deal with that, 314 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:30.759 you know, how to grapple with that. 315 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:32.399 So that is a big part of the story. 316 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.679 So you know, I guess it's up to the parents 317 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:36.679 if that's something they're ready to expose. 318 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.759 It, So be aware if you're taking the little ones. Yeah, 319 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.000 but just a very nice it might traumatize them the 320 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:47.480 way kids were traumatized when Papouli died on Full House. 321 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.679 Oh, I forgot about that. Yes, Ugh, it's a very 322 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:57.200 special episode. I was, Yeah, Michelle shouldn't take it easy. 323 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.679 It was she Yeah, it was, it was. It was 324 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:01.279 a generational trauma. 325 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.879 Yes, but yeah, very much in that Babe vein. 326 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.279 So I was gonna say, like, you half expect from 327 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.879 the commercials to have Hugh Jackman say that'll do sheep. 328 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:14.879 Kind of yeah, yeah, sort of like the James Cromwell, 329 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:17.879 you know, sort of just like a very sweet, kind 330 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.000 hearted guy that the animals look up to and it's 331 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:21.480 very nice. 332 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.320 Crazy by the way, is that like James Cromwell is 333 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:29.440 like pushing eighty now probably, which means he was like 334 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.360 in his forties when he was in Babe. 335 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.240 Okay, So when I watched Footloose, obviously I was like, 336 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.600 all right, what is everybody's age at this? 337 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:40.519 Dude? 338 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.000 John Lithgow he plays, you know, like the Preacher Father 339 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.480 Stern figure. He was eight years younger than me in 340 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.480 that movie. 341 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:54.399 I was like, oh my gosh, it sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. 342 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.480 Anyway, Lastly, I want to talk about a show that 343 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:02.039 I just had no idea what it was and pretty 344 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.559 much no intention of watching it. 345 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:05.839 It is called Widow's Bay. 346 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.720 Okay, so this is on Apple TV Plus and I 347 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.720 would see the splash page when I would turn on 348 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:12.440 my Apple TV. 349 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:14.319 But I was just like. 350 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:16.480 Huh and it just always get past it, Like no, 351 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.400 I don't know why. It just did not grab my eye. 352 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:23.039 And then I heard a recommendation for it, and I 353 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.640 was like uh. And then they're like about each episode 354 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.920 is about thirty minutes. So I was like, all right, 355 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.119 like I don't know what else to watch. I'm kind 356 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.599 of tired. Let's just this will do the trick until 357 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:35.039 I fall asleep. Let's just see what this is. 358 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:39.559 And the premise basically is. 359 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:45.279 It's sort of like Twin Peaks or this is really obscure, 360 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:46.519 but maybe even more accurate. 361 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.359 It's a like the show Erie Indiana. 362 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.720 Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I remember that. 363 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.839 Yeah, told from the point of view of essentially the 364 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:55.680 mayor from Jaws. 365 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:59.880 Okay, so there's this mayor of this. 366 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:07.759 You know, small you know town kind of Northeast, you know, 367 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:09.799 like main esque kind of vibe. 368 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.440 I don't remember specifically what it is. 369 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:14.880 But he's trying to figure out a way to get 370 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:19.440 tourism to return. And so the pilot episode, there's a 371 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.359 New York Times journalist who's going to come out and visit, 372 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.519 and he's just like, we've got to make sure that 373 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.359 he's happy here, and he writes a good piece about 374 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:28.720 our town. You know, this is important for all of us, 375 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.480 but everybody there is very superstitious and like, oh no, 376 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.440 but the FOG's rolling in. You know what happens when 377 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.640 the fog rolls in turns people into zombies, you know, 378 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.440 And he's like, please don't talk to the journalist, you know, 379 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:44.480 like and this is Matthew Reis, I should say, who's 380 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:49.079 really great? And so the first episode is, you know, 381 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.559 the fog rolls in, the journalist is there, weird stuff 382 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.000 starts happening, and the mayor's like, wait. 383 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:54.319 Are they right? 384 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.519 Like is this is you know, so he's trying to 385 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.160 protect the journalists from it and whatever, and so it 386 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.359 was entertaining, but I thought, do I want to watch 387 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.200 like ten episodes of this, like so like a zombie fog. 388 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.440 I don't know if this is going to sustain, but anyway, 389 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:11.920 I did enjoy it. So I started episode two and 390 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.920 episode two is a completely different thing. So there is 391 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:20.839 the thread and minor spoiler. The journalist does write a 392 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:24.000 positive piece, so now tourists are going to be coming 393 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.680 in a week, and so he's like, okay, so we've 394 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.640 got to make sure that the hotel is in good 395 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:34.359 working condition for everybody, and then the locals are like, 396 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:38.440 oh no, like hotels haunted, you know, so it's now 397 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.440 it's a haunted house story. So like, each story is 398 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:47.599 a different sort of supernatural spooky idea explored. 399 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:47.839 In this town. 400 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.039 And I think that is genius because that keeps you. 401 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.480 It feels different each episode, although it still feels tonally, 402 00:19:55.799 --> 00:20:01.960 you know, in this fun spooky, funny place that I'm enjoying, 403 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:04.799 but then it's like, well, what's it going to be 404 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.960 next week? You know, Like and so the Haunted House 405 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:09.599 one is the one that really got me. I was like, 406 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:12.960 that is a great idea. There's a lot of really 407 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.759 funny ideas in it. It's the first one that actually 408 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:16.240 scared me. 409 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:17.359 I was like, whoa. 410 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.039 There's a moment where I was like ugh. But it 411 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:26.559 also has this real subtle stuff that's happening where there's 412 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.839 a moment where the minor mind this doesn't really affect 413 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:31.480 the story at all, but I just really loved it 414 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:36.079 where the guy who owns the hotel, the mayor, is 415 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.720 trying to convince the superstitious people that there's nothing weird 416 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.920 about this hotel. I think there's a room in particular 417 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:43.680 sort of like two thirty seven or whatever it is 418 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:45.480 from the shining like, don't go in there. And the 419 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:47.200 mayor's like, oh, there's nothing wrong with it, and so 420 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.680 he says to the hotel owner, like, just go in 421 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.440 there and we'll shut the door and count to ten 422 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:53.000 show them everything's fine. 423 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:54.599 And the guy's like, uh. 424 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.200 So he puts the hotel owner in there, shuts the door, 425 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.759 and he's like, counts to ten and they open the 426 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.240 door and you can see on the hotel owner's face 427 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.319 that he has just lived like a week and he's like, oh, 428 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:09.319 but he doesn't want to talk about it, and he 429 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.480 just like walks out and they don't explore that. Like 430 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.759 it's just weird stuff and it's funny and it is 431 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:22.079 spooky and like a really funny, fun sort of way, 432 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.359 and so it's really I'm really enjoying it. And the 433 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:28.160 last one that I saw I haven't seen this week's, 434 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.440 but it's basically this girl who feels a little bit 435 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.359 like an outcast and she wants to throw a party. 436 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.400 I don't want to run it, but basically she goes 437 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:39.279 down a rabbit hole of trying to put on this party, 438 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:43.200 and then of course there's something weird happening that you 439 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:47.359 can't quite figure out. And there's this brilliant moment where 440 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:51.720 you know, everything seems sort of normal as she's putting 441 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.359 this party on and the camera's just panning across the room, 442 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:58.079 but there's a catches a mirror for a split second, 443 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.880 and the reflection in the mirror doesn't really what's happening 444 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.599 in the room, and you're like what, and then but 445 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.319 the camera keeps moving and I was like this, this 446 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.759 is what I love. This is the kind of spookiness 447 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:09.480 and horror that I love. 448 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:11.279 So, yeah, check this out. This sounds great. 449 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.759 I think it's a lot of fun. I haven't seen 450 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.079 this week, so I'm looking forward to watching it tonight. 451 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:17.880 So I had no idea. 452 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.799 I don't know if I would have watched this otherwise, 453 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.519 but if that sounds up your alley, I would recommend 454 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.440 Widow's Bay at Apple TV. 455 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:28.640 Plus well very cool. I saw a couple things on 456 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.119 it to mention real quick. Yeah, So first off, we 457 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:35.759 have Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan Ghost War. He's back. He 458 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:39.319 is back. He left three years ago, but he's back 459 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:43.559 for more. So this is a movie sequel to the 460 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:47.240 Prime video streaming series have they done that yet. 461 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.119 Has it just been a series or have they done 462 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:53.400 you know, like one off movies yet of Jack Ryan. Yeah, 463 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.799 we don't before for this particular the John Krasinski. 464 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:01.759 This is the first time. Okay, they're doing a movie. Okay. 465 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.119 And you know me, I'm a big Jack Ryan fan. 466 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.960 I like the movies the books less. So I tried 467 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.920 reading one and that was that was it for me. 468 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.599 Wait, what do you mean, the like Patriot Games, the 469 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.119 old ones? 470 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:19.000 Uh? Yeah, well I tried. I was assigned to read 471 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:23.240 between eighth grade and freshman year, The Cardinal of the Kremlin. 472 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:25.359 I remember that title. 473 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.079 Yeah. I was quite excited to read it because you know, 474 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.319 I by then Patriot Games had come out, and you 475 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.559 know Hunt Freed October of course, and I was like, 476 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.359 oh man, can't wait, and and it was just just impenetrable. 477 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:43.680 I know, people people love Tom Clancy's techno thriller pro pros. Yes, 478 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.880 I will count myself as a not a fan. 479 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:48.759 Yeah. 480 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:51.960 I remember buying the Sum of All Fears because I 481 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.160 excuse me, I liked the Hunt for October. Yeah, but 482 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:56.920 I mean it was like as big as the Bible, 483 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:01.319 and I was like, I just couldn't I couldn't get 484 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:01.680 through it. 485 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.200 But all that is to say, I've I've enjoyed the 486 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.079 moviees quite a bit. I think I've said I I've 487 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.079 I have enjoyed to varying degrees, every Jack Ryan movie, 488 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:17.160 including the Chris Chris Pine one that everyone forgets about see. Yeah, 489 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.359 and I really enjoyed the series, the Prime Video Series, 490 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:23.720 which I highly recommend. I've recommended it to you. So 491 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.319 when they announced that they were doing this movie, I 492 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.200 was very excited. I was like, man, let's do like 493 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.880 I think John Krasinski to me is second only to 494 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.720 Harrison Ford, who is my favorite. Jack Ryan. 495 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.319 Interesting, Well, can you explain what it is about him 496 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:41.720 that body of Jack Ryan's so so? 497 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:42.319 Well? 498 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:47.640 Yeah, Well, I think what he adds is whenever an 499 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:53.759 awkward moment happens, he looks at the camera and looks incredulous, 500 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.759 which I just that makes him more relatable to me totally. 501 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.359 And I like that when Jim Greer said something, he 502 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:05.039 looks over and he kind of shakes his head like no, no. 503 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:09.799 I think you know. It's it's tricky with with Jack 504 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.319 Ryan because he has to be in every man who 505 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:15.920 is you believe he's a man of action, but you 506 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:20.759 also believe he is smart, right, Jack Ryan is always 507 00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.119 the smartest guy in the room, right, you know? And 508 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:28.519 I think I think Alec Baldwin was able to convey that. Certainly, 509 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.839 he conveyed the smart part more than the man of 510 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.559 action part. I think that Harrison Ford was able to 511 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.920 convey both, you know, and then you know, like I said, 512 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.680 I you know, Alec, Ben Affleck, Chris Pine, they were 513 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.640 able to do it to varying degrees. I haven't disliked 514 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.799 any of them, but I just feel like Krasinski works 515 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.559 for me in the same way Harrison Ford did, you know. 516 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.920 And the show was just darn good man four seasons 517 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.440 it was. It was very solid, I think, you know, 518 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:05.880 and this movie is not. Unfortunately, uh I said this 519 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.480 in my review for The Rap. John Krasinski is a 520 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.799 great Jack Ryan. Ghost War is not a great Jack 521 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.160 Ryan movie. Like even the title is such a generic, 522 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:23.119 like like you know, it it's such a it's like 523 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.319 a placeholder title. 524 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:26.000 Ghost War. Is that what it is? 525 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.440 Yeah? 526 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:27.799 You know what it reminds me of. 527 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.799 There was you know, there's all those like arcade shooting games, 528 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.519 and there was one that was very generic that for 529 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.000 some reason Sean and I really liked it. 530 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.119 It was called Ghost Squad and everything about it. 531 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.519 It was fun to play, but everything about it felt 532 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.759 like a knockoff of something that had already been done better. 533 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.720 So yeah, even just even just cause like, yeah, you're 534 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.440 working for the Ghost Squad. Yeah, so yeah, it reminds 535 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:53.200 me of that a little bit. 536 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.640 Ghost War. It's yeah, it's a shame because like it 537 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.000 does pick up, you know, a couple of years after 538 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.359 the show, and so you get, you know, Wendell Pierce's 539 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:07.359 back as admiral career and and uh what what what's 540 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.480 his name? The shoot for the actor's name, the guy 541 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.759 who played Mike November. It's kind of like the John 542 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:23.279 Clark type characters. Michael. Oh, yeah, Michael is the actor's name. Yeah, 543 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:27.039 he's back. Like like it's it's what I would have wanted, like, 544 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.880 if you're going to continue, bring everybody back. But but 545 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:31.960 the story is just very generic and then it doesn't 546 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:38.720 amount to anything, and and the third act it's just 547 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:42.559 like machine gun fire and buildings exploding and stuff, and 548 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.200 I'm like, that's boring, you know. 549 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.000 I thought we were talking about Mandalorian Grogu Later. 550 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.200 Some some similar reactions yeah, I just I went with 551 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.799 my son. I don't really right, I went with my 552 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.519 oldest he's nineteen, and you know, we we've the Ryan 553 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.559 movies together. And when it ended, he turns to me, 554 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.519 he's like, it was an okay, action movie. I didn't 555 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.079 think it was a good Jack Ryan movie. I'm like, 556 00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:15.400 come here, boy, get some milk chicks exactly. So there's 557 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.160 just some you know. What I always point to is 558 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.680 like scene two Jack Ryan scenes that are like top tier, 559 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.799 right number one, Clear in Present Danger. I think you 560 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.319 already know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about it's 561 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.160 the the the ambush, right, the convoy ambush. But also 562 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:35.000 in Clear in Present Danger, there's a scene where Jack 563 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.759 Ryan is trying to print out some files. 564 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:39.960 I remember that too. 565 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.240 Yeah, right while across the hall you have Henry Churney 566 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.319 deleting the files and you're like chewing your fingernails watching 567 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.839 this scene. Yes, you know what I mean? Like that, Like, 568 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.119 to me, that's where the sort of clancy Ouvra excels 569 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:04.039 where it's it. There's like a there's more tension, and 570 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.640 it's more about the politicking, you know, I mean some 571 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.599 of all fears you've seen that one, right, Yeah, I 572 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.720 mean the climax of the movie is like Jack Ryan 573 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:20.119 texting the premiere of Russia basically, yeah right, like that 574 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.599 that's to me the essence of drama, and this one 575 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.519 kind of loses sight of that, which is just a 576 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.519 shame because all the ingredients are there. Yeah yeah, right, 577 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.000 So the movie ends, and I certainly was not like, 578 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:32.720 oh that sucked. I just thought it was kind of 579 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.960 mid and I'm like, I hope we get another one 580 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.519 because I'd like to see them get it right. 581 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:38.240 Yeah. 582 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.799 Yeah, you know, interesting because I love those movies and 583 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:46.240 I think I think Krasinski is terrific as Ryan. But 584 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.400 that movie is streaming on Prime Video and also on 585 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.079 Prime Video starting next week as we record. This is 586 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:54.960 Spider Noir. 587 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.480 Now this I'm very very curious about. 588 00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.440 Yeah. So this is an eight episode series that is 589 00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:06.000 part of Sony, you know, and its efforts to to 590 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.480 you know, allah Marge Simpson in the Chanelle dress, like, 591 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.079 how many, how many ensembles can we get out of this? 592 00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:13.960 Yeah? 593 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:19.519 Right, that's Sony with their packet of Spider Man rights. Yeah, 594 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:21.640 so they tried the thing like, hey, let's make movies 595 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.200 out of Spider Man villains. And after like the fourth one, 596 00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.400 people like stop for the love of God, stop right 597 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:33.400 right after Craving the Hunter. It's like God Man just 598 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:43.640 like no, no, right, And so this is instead, it's 599 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.599 it's produced by Lord and Miller. Well, and it is 600 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:54.720 ostensibly based on the Nicholas Cage Spider Man Noir character 601 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.279 from the Spider Verse movies. There's the connection, yeah, but 602 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:04.519 this is not tifically that this is another variant. Oh really? Yes? 603 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.519 Oh wow? And this is I mean that doesn't matter. 604 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.480 I mean not really, I guess, but like I think 605 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:13.839 there's some kind it's weird, right because the Spider Man 606 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.839 rights are just sliced up like Deli meat between Sony 607 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.160 and Disney. Right, So I think the way it works 608 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:29.960 is like Sony has the live action feature rights okay, 609 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.920 and the feature animation rights okay, and live action TV rights. 610 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.240 I think that's right, okay, and then and then Disney 611 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.920 has TV animation okay. So that's why on Disney Plus 612 00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:48.039 you've got like friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. That's a Disney joint, right, 613 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:57.079 But Sony is not allowed to use Peter Parker in 614 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:05.119 any movie that isn't the MCU Spider Man can. 615 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.519 You imagine being in the meetings where they hashed all 616 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:07.920 this out. 617 00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:09.519 It's it's it's a lot. 618 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.240 I bet it was tedious, but also kind of fascinating, 619 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:13.319 I think. 620 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.920 So yeah, so this this is me trying to navigate 621 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.279 through this mass, right. 622 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:19.720 Yeah. 623 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.279 So in in the Spider Verse movies, Spider Man Noir 624 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:29.680 is Peter Parker, but in this series is Ben Riley. Okay, 625 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.160 right now, Ben Riley for those of you don't know, 626 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.759 which I would assume is you Brian, correct? Ben Riley 627 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.559 is the Spider Man clone character from the nineties. That's 628 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.359 the that was the name that he gave. 629 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:47.559 Okay, so wait, so he isn't Peter Parker, but he 630 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.200 well well hold on, no, no, okay, okay, okay. 631 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.240 At some point and this isn't a spoiler, but it 632 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:56.160 alludes to the fact that so the show this is 633 00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.799 there's like a lot of legworking. So the show is 634 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:03.440 set in like the thirties, right post war, and it's 635 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.640 like a noir you know, I mean, it's smart. It's 636 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.279 in the title. It's like a trying to be like 637 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.640 a pre code Warner Brothers gangster picture, you know, sure 638 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.200 doing that, And it alludes to the fact that Ben 639 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:24.079 Riley he changed his name. M hm, so therefore he 640 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:29.279 is Peter Parker. Okay, but but see this is this 641 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.480 I actually mentioned this in my review. I'm like, it's 642 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.839 kind of brilliant calling him Ben Riley, right, because like, 643 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.559 if you say Peter Parker, that carries a certain set 644 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.240 of expectations totally, and to some extent it takes you 645 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.200 out of it because you're like, oh, Peter Parker spider Man, 646 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.799 and this is like a noir story that has some 647 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.440 Spider Man elements in it, but like you just take 648 00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:56.039 it for what it is totally right, And so you know, 649 00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:59.480 it's just Nicholas Cage, really, just Nicholas caging it up, right, 650 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:06.759 So right, right, I'm a spider, I'm a detective. You know, 651 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:07.799 it's just him doing that. 652 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.599 So he is, he is caging it up, oh big time. 653 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.760 He's having fun. That sounds great. I mean, I mean 654 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.840 there's literally points in the thing where he's like yeah, 655 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.559 she yeah, yeah, He's literally and I'm like, I love this. 656 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.480 I love I love that Nicholas Cage is in his 657 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.039 happy place. He's sixty plus, right, and he's like, I'm 658 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.400 just gonna play black and white Spider Man going yeah, yeah, 659 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.679 wait the whole time or the whole time occasionally, and 660 00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.119 it's clearly he's like channeling Edward g Robinson. It's it's 661 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:42.639 it's textual, you know. Yeah. Yeah. But but I went 662 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:47.480 in expecting not much, and I was I was quite surprised. 663 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.559 I enjoyed it quite a bit. I found it very fun. 664 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.480 You know. In addition to Nicolas Cage, you've got Brendan Gleeson, okay, 665 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:05.000 who's got this great uh you know, Chief O'Hara Irish accent. 666 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.679 He plays a mob boss called silver Main, okay, and 667 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.559 he's hamming it up. You get Lamar and Morris is 668 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.559 in there, Jack Houston, and they're all playing like Spider 669 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.719 Man characters. But it's you know, this is again, this 670 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.079 is Marge and the Chanel dress. We're pretty far down 671 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.039 the road at this point from what that dress started out, 672 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.280 as you know, but there's some traces. There's traces, there's 673 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.719 traces exactly, and I'm kind of like, look, if Sony's 674 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.440 gonna do stuff like this, then I'll at least applaud 675 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.159 the effort because they're they're they're trying to mix it 676 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.719 up a little, you know. Yeah, yeah, so I would 677 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:43.320 be totally down with seeing another season of this. Great. 678 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:44.400 I can't wait to watch this. 679 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:48.800 And and it's available in two flavors, so you have 680 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:54.599 authentic black and white and then true hue color hmmm. 681 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.639 And so you watch it in black and white and 682 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.639 it gives you something, you know, you feel like you're 683 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:03.760 gonna se Jimmy Cagney walk down the street, you know. 684 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.719 And then the true Hugh kind of it has this 685 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.880 like almost it I mean, it looks colorized. So to 686 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:19.760 me it evokes like Dick Tracy the warrant Baty to crazy. 687 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:25.039 Yeah yeah, but it's fun. I enjoyed it great. That's 688 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.840 two things on prime video, but two very different reactions. 689 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.880 I'm really looking forward to the Spider Man one. 690 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:35.360 Yeah, yeah, so that is that. Hey, we we we 691 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:44.360 got a couple listener letters here, Brian, you have eighteen 692 00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.400 thousand all addressed. 693 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.920 You've got, you know, just right off the bad I 694 00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:56.599 want to mention this. 695 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.360 Our friend Bushra saw the movie Michael, the Michael Jackson 696 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.639 Pick and she had the funniest take on it. I 697 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.519 had to share where she was like, you know, for me, 698 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.960 it sort of played like a Burns for all seasons. 699 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.840 You know, when mister Burns had that propaganda movie made 700 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:14.800 for him where it like. 701 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.559 Completely made him like. 702 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:23.079 Like the greatest hero whoever, was directed by senior spell 703 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.639 Ergo and I was like, that's totally that's pretty good, 704 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:27.639 that's pretty apt. 705 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.280 We just needed Chuck Caston being like, you truly are 706 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:32.239 king of. 707 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.239 Kings, uli are the king of pop? 708 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:36.679 Yeah, exactly. 709 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.840 Anyway, I thought that was pretty good. 710 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:40.719 Well, you know they're they're hard at work on that 711 00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:41.840 sequel that's a coming. 712 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.440 Have you heard about this? By the way, Like. 713 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.880 Obviously the question is whatever is left in his life 714 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.840 to cover is really dicey. 715 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.679 Yeah, it's it's gonna take us down some some depressing corridors. 716 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.320 Right, Well, so the first movie contorted itself, however, it 717 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:08.400 could as awkwardly as it was at times, to avoid 718 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:14.400 making him seem even slightly even like offbeat, you know 719 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.559 what I mean. He's just Saint Michael for the whole movie. 720 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.239 And so how do you possibly cover these later years 721 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.039 in a sequel? And what I read yesterday, I don't 722 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.480 have it in front of me, but someone at Line'sgate 723 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.639 was like, well, we don't necessarily have to go forward. 724 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.159 There's a lot of things we didn't cover in the 725 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.440 first movie. We can it can jump around in time, 726 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:33.679 and I was. 727 00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:39.239 Like, you guys really just stepped in it, Like. 728 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.800 You can tell this guy was just like riffing off 729 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:47.800 the top of his head. Well I think this is 730 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.920 I think it was like, yeah, see, definitely that definitely that. 731 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.519 But also this clearly wasn't the plan, right, I mean, 732 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.000 they did make a movie that went into the Neverland 733 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.280 ranch and the police coming in, and like they did 734 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:03.800 do that. Then they had to go back and change everything, 735 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.679 and they put out something that everybody really liked that 736 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:12.199 just didn't get into any sort of controversy or questioning anything. 737 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:12.800 Yeah. 738 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.079 Well, well here's the here's the quote. This is from 739 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.639 from Adam foegel Send, he's the head of Lions Gaty says, 740 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:19.760 all the conversations that we've been having with all of 741 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.960 the appropriate parties continue to go exceptionally well. And I 742 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.719 would say that there's a ton of incredibly entertaining Michael 743 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.960 Jackson's story and much of the biggest and most popular 744 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.639 parts of his music catalog that were not touched upon 745 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.400 in the first film. I actually don't think that's true 746 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.639 because because even in terms of. 747 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.519 His music to think that anything I mean, dangerous of 748 00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.599 course was a big hit in its own right. But yeah, yeah, 749 00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.079 but but I mean to say that that was you know, 750 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.000 thriller is thriller, right. 751 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.559 But but but what I mean is this is this. 752 00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.599 Is the big Yeah. Please we can go forwards and 753 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.440 backwards and telling the story. There's so many he wants 754 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.840 to do, like Godfather Part two basically. 755 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.360 Oh dude, they're gonna oh you a big check, Like 756 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.960 I think you just cracked it for them. 757 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:06.639 There's so many other events that happened even in the 758 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.760 timeframe of the original movie that weren't touched upon. No, 759 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.000 so you may still get your Joe Jackson abusing Michael 760 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.480 moments that you wanted more of. 761 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:22.960 Obviously that's not true. Well no, but you no, but 762 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.320 but but he is. He is referring to me saying 763 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.199 that I think they sanitized Joe Jackson a little bit 764 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.920 as awful as he still came across. 765 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.320 But also, I mean, yeah, I just remember you saying 766 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.679 I wanted more of the child being beaten, and you 767 00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:41.320 were very like exercised about it. I was actually like 768 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.559 I had to take off my headphones. You were that 769 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.960 there was there's so much distortion in my in my headset. 770 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:48.760 I kept being like, if I could return to my 771 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.079 earlier point, Zachi before you cut me off, before he 772 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.559 changed the subjects No, but I. 773 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.360 Mean, obviously you make a good point. Obviously. 774 00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.440 I mean I was saying, you know, we didn't even 775 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.239 touch on him dating Brooks Shields, which is kind of 776 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.519 interesting for a myriad of reasons. The weird rumors that 777 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.239 started going out on around him about him being sleeping 778 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.639 in a hyperbaric chamber. And I'm not saying I want 779 00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.639 them to point at him and say, isn't this guy weird? 780 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.599 But like these were, this was a big part of 781 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:22.239 who he was in the public's consciousness. Why not address it? 782 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.239 How did he feel about that? I do think that 783 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.480 would make for a more textured and interesting look at him. 784 00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.760 But what I think is interesting is they realized if 785 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.760 we take all of that stuff out and just make 786 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.039 him Saint Michael, that's a winning formula, you know what 787 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:36.400 I mean. 788 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.760 That worked. Nobody cared that we didn't address any of 789 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.360 the other stuff or even go very deep. 790 00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.079 So I think that gets a lot harder to do 791 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:46.960 with the second half of his life. 792 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:48.880 But that's why I find it so fascinating. They're like, 793 00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.079 why go forward, Let's go back again, Let's go back again. 794 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:55.280 I just think that's like amazing. 795 00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:56.880 Captain EO. 796 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.800 They didn't even cover, you know. 797 00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:03.400 I smooth, Yeah, exactly. There's so much they didn't touch 798 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.800 on in that era. So I mean they must be 799 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.360 thinking multiple movies, not just one. So maybe this one 800 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.280 will fill in the gaps. Like you said, it might 801 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.239 be sort of a Godfather too situation, like jumping back 802 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.800 and forth, and then I'm sure they'll leave room for 803 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:19.639 a third one. 804 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:20.639 Good lord. 805 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.079 Yeah, anyway, I thought that was pretty fascinating anyway. 806 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.000 So that was our listener letter section. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, no, 807 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.559 we got a ton of letters regarding our commentary track 808 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.440 for all the presidents. Been an hour to share some 809 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.199 of those. Yeah. Here, So this is a note we 810 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:43.840 got from Adam O and he says, damn, I listened 811 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.639 to your commentary of all the President's men during the 812 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.719 weirdest week possible for nostalgia for traditional media. During my 813 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.559 senior year in high school, I was fortunate to work 814 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.320 as a part time sports reporter from my local paper, 815 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.639 the Douglas County News Review in Roseberg, Oregon. Last year 816 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.719 the paper went to a weekly print edition rather than daily, 817 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.400 and this last Friday, April twenty fourth, they published their 818 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.679 last print edition after one hundred and fifty eight years. 819 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.280 My working life started at another newspaper, as a paper 820 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.280 boy for the Juno Empire, which is now a shell 821 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.119 of itself. I'm also a fan of movies set or 822 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.920 partially set in a newsroom. The chaos always makes me 823 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.280 remember those Friday and Saturday nights when all of us 824 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.039 sports reporters were calling coaches and trying to fill in 825 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.760 stats for the local prep games, especially on a Saturday 826 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.079 night with the midnight deadline approaching, so Craig the sports 827 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.440 editor could get everything laid out and sent to the 828 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.960 printing plant. A movie I would suggest is the Ron 829 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:41.000 Howard directed film The Paper. It captures that manic energy 830 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.679 and has an amazing ensemble cast Michael Keaton, Mursa Tome, 831 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.199 Robert Duval, Glenn Close, Randy Quaid, Katherine O'Hara, and more. 832 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.079 It's one of my comfort food movies that I'll throw 833 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.519 on when I can't sleep and just need something familiar 834 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.320 to drift off to. But then we'll pull it up 835 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.239 a day or two later. Because I want to watch it. 836 00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.280 I also want to put in a plug for the 837 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.840 listeners to support your local journalism. Maybe buy a digital 838 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.079 subscription to your local paper or pick up a print 839 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:05.280 edition once in a while. I know not everyone can 840 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.000 afford to do that, but if you're able, please consider it. Well. 841 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.039 Traditional media may have its flaws, it's also a fundamental 842 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:14.960 backbone of ensuring we maintain and inform public. Thanks again 843 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:16.239 for another great commentary. 844 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.199 I love every part of that, Adam, Thank you. 845 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.679 I love the paper. You've seen that, right, Yes, yeah, Ron, 846 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:24.599 that is a good flick. 847 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:26.239 Yeah, I kind of forgotten. 848 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah, I mean, gosh, when it 849 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.760 comes to news, I do try to put my money 850 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.880 where my mouth is that, you know. I buy digital subscriptions, 851 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:41.400 actually more more outlets than I read. I subscribe to 852 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.800 m because exactly that. You know, it's if you don't 853 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:51.199 pay for it, then we'll all pay for it. Very good. Yeah. Yeah, 854 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.360 here's I know. We got from Charles Ogan, who says, 855 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.119 I enjoyed your recent commentary on all the President's Men. 856 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:59.320 It's always nice to hear you speak fondly of the College, 857 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.400 College of Page and Wheaton. Well, gosh, that's our origin 858 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:07.559 story right. When you mentioned missing Bernstein at College of 859 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.559 Due Page, it triggered a memory for me. After graduating 860 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.679 from DePaul Law School, but before I received my bar results, 861 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.480 my mom set me up for lunch with a lawyer 862 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.199 friend of hers. The idea was that this respected attorney 863 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.599 could offer some sage advice on how to succeed as 864 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.079 a new lawyer in du Page County and hopefully point 865 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.760 me toward a few job leads. The day came and 866 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.400 I put on my nicest and only suit and met 867 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.159 this older lawyer for lunch in Wheaton. When I arrived, 868 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.239 I was surprised to see another man sitting with him. 869 00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.760 Both stood up and greeted me, and my contact said, 870 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.559 I hope you don't mind. I invited al Woodward, one 871 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.480 of my partners. Yes, that Alfred Woodward, the respected retired 872 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.320 judge and father of Bob Woodward. 873 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:45.039 Wow. 874 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.360 The three of us made small talk and I received 875 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:49.000 my share of advice on how to build a legal 876 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.559 career into Page County. Midway through the conversation, I finally 877 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.679 worked up the courage to bring up all the presidents 878 00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.599 men and his son. I remember asking Judge Woodward what 879 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.199 it felt like to have someone like Robert Redford portrays on. 880 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.679 He smiled and said it didn't feel bad. Redford is 881 00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.239 a good man. That brief interaction has lingered in my 882 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.559 mind far more than most of the advice I received 883 00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:12.639 that day. Thank you again for the commentary. It not 884 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.159 only brought back this memory but also prompted me to 885 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.880 rewatch all the presidents men last night. It was just 886 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:19.239 as enjoyable as I remembered. 887 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.280 Amazing, and we bring that up in the commentary. I 888 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.920 went to Wheaton Warnville South High School and Bob Woodward 889 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.079 graduated from there, so that was kind of a point 890 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:30.239 of pride for the school. 891 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.800 Yeah, and I missed out on my chance to see 892 00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.159 Carl Bernstein had called. 893 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.719 You to pay That's. 894 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:41.119 A point of pride for me. Here's a comment we 895 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.039 got from Luke Smail on YouTube, and this is also 896 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:45.920 with regards to all the presidents man. He says, another 897 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.960 superb commentary by you guys, very informative and Zachie, well 898 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.599 done for keeping the comparisons between then politically and now 899 00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:56.559 to a minimum. As I would have been like, that 900 00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.079 is just like what's happening every three minutes right a 901 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.039 few years ago I actually sat down and watched the 902 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:07.119 Richard Nixon trilogy, The Post All, The President's Men, and 903 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:11.239 Frost Nixon. Right, that's like the Richard Nixon Journalism trilogy. 904 00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:11.679 Go on. 905 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.440 Yeah, just like Palpatine in the original trilogy, the lead 906 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:22.880 villain doesn't appear until the third film. If you really 907 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.199 want to go, Banana's Point Break can be the spinoff 908 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.400 film in the side. I am not a crook like 909 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.400 you guys. I have a love of investigative journalism films. 910 00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.360 And another one I would add is The Killing Fields. 911 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:36.079 Oh that's a good one. 912 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.280 Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen in school. 913 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.519 Yeah, which I saw just recently. Redford was really on 914 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.079 fire during the seventies and one of his most underrated 915 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.039 films is The Candidate, which I only saw after he 916 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.719 passed away and loved the hell out of amazing film 917 00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:50.400 if you've never seen him. If you want to see 918 00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.960 some great DVD extra features, the DVD for the twenty 919 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.239 fifth anniversary of All the Presidents Men has interviews with 920 00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.519 Ben Bradley and Woodstain, both of them they discussed journalism 921 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.559 then versus in the early two thousands, and it's well 922 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.280 worth a look. And that too, that's like twenty years ago. 923 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:06.000 Now that's wild. 924 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.119 Yeah, nineteen seventy six had some amazing films, so I 925 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.480 look forward to more commentaries from this year. 926 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:12.599 Nice. 927 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.760 There we go, And then here's a note we got 928 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:18.360 from Melissa Nicholson and this is in regards to you 929 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:20.440 and I. We were talking about the trailer for the 930 00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.960 Harry Potter series that's coming up on Oh, yes, that's right, 931 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:26.480 and we were both like, well, we're not the audience 932 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.400 for this, yes, yes, yes, so please help us. Yeah. 933 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.679 So Melissa Julie answered, she said, hey, Zachie and Brian 934 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.079 love the recent episode of the podcast probably laughed a 935 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.039 little too hard at Melatonin Man and baby Yoda. 936 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.159 You know, it's funny. When I saw it last night. 937 00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:43.079 I called my mom afterwards when I was driving home, 938 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.400 just to chit chat, and she jokingly was like, so, 939 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.119 how's melatonin man. 940 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:51.599 That's so I thank you for fringing that up, Melissa. 941 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.440 And we'll be talking about that later in the episode. 942 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.280 When you were talking about the latest Harry Potter series 943 00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.039 that will be coming out soon, I wanted to share 944 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.360 my thoughts. I've been Harry Potter fans since the beginning, 945 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.159 which makes it twenty nine years ouch. It was a 946 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.079 book I immediately loved, enjoyed. It felt down to earth, relatable, 947 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.039 and then you get into the magical world and follow 948 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.199 Harry on his journey through life and as he becomes 949 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.719 a wizard. There are so many wonderful characters that you 950 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:20.559 begin to know and love. I went through my read 951 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.480 of the book, watch the movie, my mom and I 952 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.400 went to everyone and enjoyed it all. There were honestly 953 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.039 no nitpicks. That's the movies. That's nice. Now comes along 954 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.119 a TV series of a movie and book series. I'm 955 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.519 not entirely sure how I feel about something essentially being 956 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.480 rebooted into something new. I know I do not like 957 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.280 the look of it. It feels bland and sterile. Somehow, 958 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.039 the original movies felt so warm and cozy, and it 959 00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.320 became dark when it needed to, which was further into 960 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.119 the film series. Yet it still had those warm moments, 961 00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.280 especially in the first film. Chris Columbus brought that whole 962 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.039 world to life and then some It's absolutely incredible. It 963 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.320 still blows my mind to this day that those candles 964 00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.239 in the main hall of Hogwarts were done practically. Those 965 00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.239 are all real candles. Yeah, I feel like they're doing 966 00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.119 this to bring a new generation into the world of 967 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.440 Harry Potter, but make it more fresh and new looking. 968 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:10.840 It could also be an attempt to bring fans back 969 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.800 into it, because I felt the fandom did take a 970 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.840 hit from all the JK. Rowling thoughts and opinions. For me, 971 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.559 I don't agree on any level with Rowling, but I 972 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:23.239 separate the two. Rowling is in their own little bubble 973 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.880 of nonsense and thoughts in the Magical Worlds in its own, 974 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.159 remaining untainted. I choose to do it that way because 975 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.159 I love Harry Potter so much and I wouldn't want 976 00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.599 the author's opinions to ruin it for me. When I 977 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.679 saw the trailer for the new series, the vibe was off, 978 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.480 and like I said before, the look of it was 979 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:41.239 very different and felt so bland. Seeing new people in 980 00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:43.920 roles that became very familiar to me was weird. The 981 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.079 actors who played the roles in the movies became those 982 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.639 characters and you couldn't se anyone else playing it. Here 983 00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:50.400 we have a whole new group of people coming along 984 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.039 to play these beloved characters. I feel it's too different 985 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.679 and just doesn't feel right. This is only a trailer 986 00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:58.840 after also, maybe it's not so bad, but my immediate 987 00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.000 thought is this isn't for me, and that's okay. The 988 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.000 original became a millennial generation Star Wars where it just 989 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.639 blew up and became a phenomenon for many. I was 990 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:09.679 a part of that, which is pretty neat to think. 991 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.679 I hope that this new series captures an audience and 992 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.480 maybe this is the stepping stone for them to explore 993 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.679 the older films and the books, because there will be 994 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.039 those who haven't yet heard of them yet. This new 995 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.840 series will be something for someone, and I hope it's enjoyed. 996 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.159 That's a that's a nice perspective. 997 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:26.960 I was just thinking that. 998 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.400 Yep. Yeah, and then Melissa says, PS, glad you finally 999 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.719 got your teeth delt with Brian. Thank you. Sounds sounds 1000 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:40.760 like the whole process was like pulling teeth. Yes, I'm 1001 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.320 glad your tooth situation is done to thank you. Yeah. 1002 00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:48.039 I mean, I have no no steak in any of 1003 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.000 the Harry Potter stuff, but I mean I guess ultimately 1004 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:53.199 that's what it is, right, Like, the the new thing 1005 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.519 is going to be somebody's entree into all of it, 1006 00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:58.840 and you know, just. 1007 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:00.199 Hope it's good. Hope it's good for them. 1008 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.679 Right now, my nieces, my brother's daughters, they're watching the 1009 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.840 modern Planet of the Apes films for the first time, okay, 1010 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.920 and so Rise of the Planet Apes is they're entree 1011 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.840 into that, and I'm like, well, I hope you know 1012 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:18.840 they'll go back and watch the sixty eight one at 1013 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:20.559 some point. I'd love to hear their thoughts on that. 1014 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.239 Yeah, I'd be very curious. 1015 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.840 But that's the thing, right, It's like, Creed is somebody's 1016 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.360 first Rocky movie, totally, totally, and this isn't exactly that, 1017 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:33.199 And I understand people being very precious about it. And 1018 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.960 it does get messy because JK. Rowling is pretty obnoxious. 1019 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:40.400 There are a lot of factors here. 1020 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.039 I was going to say, I really appreciate Melissa's take 1021 00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:47.440 because you know, when I was a little bit younger, 1022 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.079 I did have the feeling where you can't do that 1023 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.119 this is this is the thing. How can you assume 1024 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.400 that anyone else could accept anything else as the thing. 1025 00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:58.880 But as I get older and time march is on, 1026 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:03.159 you realize there's just cycles of things, you know, and 1027 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.000 this is a new cycle, you know. I'm like, finally, 1028 00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.480 old enough to now see that, and it's like, Okay, 1029 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.280 well I had my cycle and it's pretty good and 1030 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.440 people seem to like it still. So at some point, 1031 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.079 you know, it makes sense to recycle something maybe possibly 1032 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:21.239 and hopefully it speaks. 1033 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.719 To you know, the generation coming up now. 1034 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.960 Well, as is sort of the unofficial mantra of the 1035 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.280 movie film show, it's not a better friend than Froggy, 1036 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:32.800 just different, just different. 1037 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:40.239 Yeah, and we can feel that the older is more successful, 1038 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:40.920 you know what I mean. 1039 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:41.840 That doesn't mean that. 1040 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.519 This is the only version that's going to be good 1041 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.880 for them, but if it gets them interested in something 1042 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.079 that's great and something that was always good is always 1043 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.039 going to be good. So, like you were saying about 1044 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.800 the plan of the Apes, hopefully it brings people back 1045 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:56.320 to the older thing that they might not have checked 1046 00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:58.960 out otherwise. Right, you know that's what I'm trying to say. 1047 00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:00.920 I don't mean to dismit, dismissed the past. 1048 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:05.639 Well, it's sort of like I remember being a little 1049 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:10.480 kid and growing up with obviously growing up with Christopher 1050 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:13.519 Reeve as Superman, and then I saw a picture of 1051 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:18.079 George Reeves as you know, the TV Superman and being 1052 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:22.920 like the hell is that? Yeah? Right, yeah, and no, 1053 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.199 there's only one Superman, you know, and then obviously you 1054 00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.519 you know, you're like, no, well, that's part of the history. 1055 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.920 And guess what, Christopher is part of the history is 1056 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.400 not the end of the history. And on it goes, 1057 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:40.559 and and I think there there is that sense of, 1058 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.760 you know, I would imagine that for a lot of 1059 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.280 fans of Harry Potter films, there was that sense of like, well, 1060 00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:54.760 these movies are going to be the testament to this franchise. 1061 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.519 Like the Wizard of Oz, like they'll be here in 1062 00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:57.199 a hundred years. 1063 00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:01.239 Yeah, exactly right. And and when you think about it, 1064 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.480 I mean, the list of movies like that keeps getting shorter, right, yeah, yeah, 1065 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.679 I mean the fact that we have not gotten just 1066 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.480 a straight remake of Wizard of Oz is kind of astounding. 1067 00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.440 Yeah, yeah, right. 1068 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.239 You know, one would have assumed that Lord of the 1069 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.519 Rings is somewhere in that boat, right, like, well, you're 1070 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:25.360 not going to touch these but who the hell knows? 1071 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.800 Right, yeah, give it time. 1072 00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.360 Give it time. And that's kind of my my thought 1073 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:33.920 on all of this stuff, like well, you know, how 1074 00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:37.800 precious do you want to be about this? But again, 1075 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.360 there is just that there is the general ick factor 1076 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:43.400 of Rowling, and I would imagine that that Potter fans 1077 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.239 just have to sort of come to their own, you know, 1078 00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.880 the place of being comfortable with they're not comfortable with it, 1079 00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.639 with putting putting money in her pocket, you know what 1080 00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:55.920 I mean. 1081 00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:59.639 That's that's challenging, I know, And we talk about this often. 1082 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.400 There's so many figures like that where we have to 1083 00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:08.519 figure out ourselves who we can separate art from artists? Well, 1084 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.599 but you know, some we can, so we can't. It's 1085 00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:12.840 always it's it's personal for everyone. 1086 00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.199 It really is. I mean, one thing I think about 1087 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:21.000 a lot is the fact that James Bond is now 1088 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:26.480 fully owned by a Bond villain at Jeff Bezos. And 1089 00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.920 I'm like, I don't. I don't want to support that guy, 1090 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.800 you know, right, But you know, yeah, that's just where 1091 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.480 we are. Welcome to the welcome to the twenty first century, 1092 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:36.760 I know. 1093 00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.800 And I mean, if I'm being honest, I don't know 1094 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.440 why I'm dragging myself into this, but like, yeah, I mean, 1095 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:44.400 you hear a lot of things about the way Amazon 1096 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.679 is run that don't sound so great, and yet I 1097 00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.559 order from them all the time. It's just the weird 1098 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.760 sort of you know, split personality. It's sort of thing 1099 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.440 we have to deal with with that kind of stuff 1100 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:56.880 living in the twenty first century. 1101 00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:57.400 I guess. 1102 00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.159 Yeah, it's it's tough, you know, mm hmm, it's it's 1103 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.440 it is a challenge. Yeah. And and there there is 1104 00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:08.400 no there's no there is no easy answer. Yeah. Hey, 1105 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:18.679 we got some headlines though, extra all right. So, uh, 1106 00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:21.320 you know, you know the Odyssey Is is coming up 1107 00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.800 in a few months. You excited for that? I am. 1108 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.599 You know, there's a new trailer, newish trailer out now, 1109 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.159 and uh, I like the first one, but I really 1110 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.800 like the second one. I feel like it digs into 1111 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.760 the story even more, you know, shows sort of uh 1112 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.960 what everyone's up against and the villainy and you know, 1113 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:41.679 the people being oppressed. And I was like, oh, this 1114 00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:43.519 is meaty, this is this is what I needed to 1115 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:44.800 get even more excited about this. 1116 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.960 What's funny is there has been like a barrage of 1117 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.119 critiques being lobbed at this movie, some of which are 1118 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.639 are comical and some of which are well, I would 1119 00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.599 say the majority of them are comical. Mm hm. One 1120 00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:02.280 I've seen a lot of is the fact that everyone 1121 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.119 in the film is speaking in like a traditional American accent. 1122 00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:08.360 Sure, which, by the way, I forgot to mention this, 1123 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:13.360 but I rewatched Amadaeus recently and I hadn't seen that 1124 00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:18.679 since maybe school, right, And I was initially struck that 1125 00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:22.639 everyone is speaking like a modern sort of sounding English, 1126 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.760 you know, not even trying to do like a British. 1127 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.840 Or italianate Atlantic. 1128 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:29.880 Yeah, any sort of accents. I was like, oh, that's 1129 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:33.000 a choice. But you know what, if that's what's going 1130 00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:37.880 to allow the actors to give their best performance, you 1131 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.599 know what I mean, not fighting through mimicking some sort 1132 00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:43.480 of accent, then like, I don't know, I can I 1133 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:44.400 can adapt to that. 1134 00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.840 Well, this is the thing, right because because in the 1135 00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:53.719 trailer you have you know, Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson, 1136 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:59.480 you know, trading barbs, and both of them are not American. 1137 00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:01.960 Oh that's true, that's true, I sayd. 1138 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:03.760 Both of them are like, well, my dad's coming back 1139 00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:08.360 and your dad's not coming back. That's true. That's basic, right, 1140 00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:10.480 It's like dad, you know, there's a lot of that 1141 00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:11.840 on the internet. 1142 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.480 I don't even remember that, he says, Dad. That's funny though, 1143 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.679 versus father or something a little more right. 1144 00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.039 And I was thinking about this, and I'm like, well, 1145 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.119 if I were to guess, yeah, this is a sop 1146 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:29.480 to the fact that Matt Damon is Matt Damon, and 1147 00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:37.039 I don't know how how much skill he has with accents, right. 1148 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.599 So it starts at the top and works its way down. 1149 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.360 It's like, oh, I think, Matt, it's not going to 1150 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:43.920 be doing an accent, right. 1151 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:45.599 But I was thinking about this, I was like, this 1152 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:53.079 is this is CA nineteen syndrome? Yes, right, Like what's 1153 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:54.960 more distracting? So for those of you who don't know 1154 00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:58.400 CAN nineteen. The Widow Maker is a submarine thriller directed 1155 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:01.760 by Catherine Bigelow. It stars Harrison Ford as a Russian 1156 01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.800 submarine captain. And Harrison Ford was bound and determined to 1157 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:12.480 do a Russian accent. And I would imagine the folks 1158 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.920 at various points in the food chain were like, please, 1159 01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:18.280 for the love of God, don't do a Russian accent right, right, right? 1160 01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.840 And he was like, I'm going to do a Russian accent, 1161 01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:25.960 God damn it, right, And he tried and he said 1162 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:31.599 he will not fail. But he failed because all you 1163 01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:35.239 hear is is this boris bad. Enough accent coming out 1164 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:40.440 of Harrison Ford's face and it breaks your immersion, which. 1165 01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:41.239 Makes you realize. 1166 01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.360 I mean, he's one of the biggest stars, one of 1167 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.119 the most beloved movie stars in the world, but he 1168 01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:50.559 has his lane right, right. He doesn't often veer out 1169 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.320 of being a Harrison Ford type. 1170 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:52.639 Right. 1171 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.239 Even it makes me think of the movie forty two, 1172 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:57.199 that Jackie Robinson movie, and I remember he's trying to 1173 01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.960 play like a krusty nineteen thirties, forties whatever, yeah, type 1174 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.199 of guy, and you're like, you know, like maybe should 1175 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.519 have just been more himself or something. It's putting on 1176 01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:10.119 some sort of you know, these like characteristics that don't 1177 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.360 feel like they come naturally out of him. 1178 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:19.039 Yeah. Well, like like Sean Connery, whether he played an 1179 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.639 Irish beat cup or a Russian submarine captain or James 1180 01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:28.119 effing Bond, he always shounded a shame because that's Sean 1181 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:29.000 effing Connery. 1182 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.519 Yep, that's why you hired Sean Connery. 1183 01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.679 That's right. So I think with The Odyssey, this is 1184 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.280 just my guess. I don't I don't know. I think 1185 01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.480 it's like Matt Damon speaking in an accent will be 1186 01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:42.679 more distracting than just him speaking like Matt Damon, and 1187 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.320 so they that's what they you know, It's kind of 1188 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.840 like in Wonder Woman, everybody speaks in an Israeli accent. 1189 01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.920 Because yeah, I'm not making a joke. I mean, no, no, 1190 01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:57.719 I know, I know, I know. 1191 01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:01.960 Well, actually I was sort of I was trying to remember, 1192 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.360 but I'd forgotten about it. 1193 01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.599 It's true, like Connie Neilson and Robin Right and all 1194 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:08.920 of them, they're doing like a version of her accent. 1195 01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:12.239 Yeah, it's just been a minute since I've seen I'm 1196 01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:14.840 trying to hear it again in my head. But anyway, yes, yes, yes, exactly, 1197 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:15.559 exactly right. 1198 01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:20.119 So anyway, it's just funny because I feel like we're 1199 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:25.679 at that point now where Christopher Nolan has achieved enough 1200 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:28.039 success where now you've got the folks who are lying 1201 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:33.000 in wait for him to fail. Mmmm yeah, and Nolan's like, 1202 01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:38.199 we will not fail. See what happens in my cover 1203 01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.719 like Harrison Ford's Russian accent. I don't know. And then 1204 01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:49.599 the other controversy, which is either more concerning or stupid, 1205 01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:55.119 or maybe both, is the fact that Nolan cast Lupita 1206 01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:00.320 Neango as Helen of Troy. People very upset about this, Brian, 1207 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:04.880 I don't know. You may not believe this, Brian. Folks 1208 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.480 on the internet are upset about this. 1209 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.440 I'm having our time imagining it. Now. 1210 01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.639 Now here's the thing. Okay, you have people who are 1211 01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:20.280 like they're changing history, they're changing It's not real. None 1212 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:25.320 of it is real, all right Now. The only requirement 1213 01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:29.480 for Helen of Troy is she was so beautiful that 1214 01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:35.079 a war started for her. Now here's the thing. If 1215 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:39.280 you can look at Lupita Nango and say she is 1216 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:42.920 not suited to play Helen of Troy, I think we 1217 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:46.719 know the reason why you think that, right right, Like 1218 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:48.239 you're telling on yourself. 1219 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.360 It almost makes me want to be like, explain right exactly, 1220 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.280 go ahead, tell me, yeah, I'll give you all the 1221 01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:55.920 rope you need. 1222 01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:00.280 Go ahead, Yes, I won't even interrupt. Go ahead, you know, because. 1223 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.480 Because she's objectively gorgeous. Yes, so it's you know, so 1224 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.599 Elon Musk of course is out there just on Front 1225 01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:13.119 Street showing his whole entire ass being like Christopher Nolan 1226 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.039 is just giving into DEI and all this stuff. I'm like, 1227 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.199 and I was just like does this stuff even work anymore? 1228 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:23.960 You know, like like like you know what I mean, 1229 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.119 because here's that that movie is gonna come out in 1230 01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.519 July and it's going to be a massive hit and 1231 01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:30.800 all you all people are gonna look like dumb asses. 1232 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.400 Right right right right, So it's like, what what are 1233 01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:37.920 we even doing? He makes me think of that Tucker 1234 01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:38.920 Carlson impersonation. 1235 01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:44.559 What are you going on? That's the goal? 1236 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:50.039 Now, I really love that. That's like the first impersonation 1237 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.360 that's like stuck with me in a while. 1238 01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:54.679 Yeah, you know, it's yeah. 1239 01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:58.000 I got a little tripped up as you were talking 1240 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.599 because I was just like, wow, So just anybody's thoughts 1241 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.119 at like two a m. No matter who they are, 1242 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:07.559 on any topic, Like we're just getting it all the time, 1243 01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:08.760 you know what I mean? 1244 01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:14.159 Elon Musk, like what like, well, why why do I 1245 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:14.559 know this? 1246 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:19.159 Like this is the problem when these gazillionaires own everything, 1247 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:22.639 That's what you realize, right, Like we are forced to 1248 01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:24.320 be subjected to this, you know. 1249 01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:28.480 Oh oh absolutely, yeah, yeah yeah right, It's just. 1250 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.880 It's it's hilarious to me because I'm like, this is 1251 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.239 it is a fantasy story. It is the equivalent of 1252 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:40.000 pointing at Star Wars and being like, why y'all changing history? 1253 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.599 It was set, you know, a long time ago, and 1254 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.639 and I don't remember it being like that. You know, 1255 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.639 it's it's or it's like the Mummy, you know what 1256 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.159 I mean. It's fiction. It is not it's not based 1257 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:54.199 on any history, right, right, it's really weird. You know. 1258 01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:57.239 I'm tired, Brian, That's all I'm saying. 1259 01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:58.559 I know, I know, I'm tired. 1260 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:05.000 Uh. Speaking of tired, Hey, the the final Stephen Colbert 1261 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:07.559 Late Show aired last night, and I'm tired because I 1262 01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:09.239 was up late watching it. Oh how was I? 1263 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.079 I haven't seen it. I saw the headline. 1264 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.880 I saw that Paul McCartney was there, which I was like, 1265 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.280 of course that's perfect. 1266 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:16.280 Right, that's sold in theater. 1267 01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:19.719 Exactly right, Yeah, because they're they're they're shutting down the 1268 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.920 Ed Sullivan basically. 1269 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:23.000 Yeah. 1270 01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:28.400 Yeah. So you know, this past month I would say 1271 01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.440 has been sort of a you know, an honor guard 1272 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.400 for for Colbert, as all these people have been coming 1273 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.400 on and talking about how much they love, how important 1274 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.599 he is and and and I don't know how you 1275 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.159 couldn't get a big head after all that. 1276 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:43.360 Sure, I would. 1277 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:46.920 Imagine it's a bit like attending your own funeral, right, yeah, yeah, right, 1278 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.400 you know or your own wake. The only thought. I mean, 1279 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.239 it's like, there is the politics of it, and we 1280 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.159 already know what likely led to the cancelation whatever. I'm 1281 01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:57.400 not going to get at all that we talked about 1282 01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.960 that before. But but the thought I had was, let's 1283 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:06.119 be honest, this is just the first of these, right, 1284 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:10.800 Like I can't remember who said this, but somebody was like, 1285 01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.800 this current batch of late night hosts are probably the 1286 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:15.559 final batch. 1287 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.800 Oh yeah, right, and this is the beginning of the 1288 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.719 end of that. 1289 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.840 Right, Like there's something when you put it that way, 1290 01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:27.840 like there will probably not be a late night show 1291 01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.599 after Seth Myers. There will probably not be, you know, 1292 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:34.000 a Tonight Show after Jimmy Kimmel, although if anyone is 1293 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:35.440 going to hang in there, it would probably be the 1294 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.159 Tonight Show because it is such a storied franchise. But 1295 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:41.119 then again, you would think that CBS would have wanted 1296 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.800 to keep the lights on at the late show. There's 1297 01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.079 just something to that, you know, And you can tell 1298 01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.199 there is this sort of like, oh, Letterman was never political. 1299 01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:52.199 I'm like, really right, right, you know, Oh, Johnny Carson, 1300 01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.360 It's like, yeah, Carson played to the middle of the country, 1301 01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.320 but Johnny Carson made fun of every president. That's what 1302 01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.440 that means. Right, there's the sense of like, no, if 1303 01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.480 my guy is in office, you don't make fun of him. 1304 01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:04.880 That's sort of you know, And it's like, well, no, 1305 01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.039 that it used to be. We could all agree that 1306 01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:10.360 you laugh at the president's that's what it used to be, right, right, 1307 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.440 And I wish that hadn't changed, you know, I don't know, 1308 01:08:14.199 --> 01:08:16.479 I know, I know, I think it's still mark of 1309 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.560 a healthy democracy when you poke fun at the person 1310 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:20.560 in charge, whibard, it's because it's the boss, and yeah, 1311 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:24.079 keeping them in check exactly, you know. So that was 1312 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:25.960 you know, there was just something that made me a 1313 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:29.880 little sad about that about sort of like I mean, 1314 01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.399 these late night shows you and I talk about often, like, well, 1315 01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.960 they mean something to us and our generation. That is 1316 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.399 not the case for the one after us. So it's 1317 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:44.119 not surprising that they're all there. They're social relevance, their 1318 01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.840 cultural relevance has start to fritter away, you know. Yeah. 1319 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:50.760 And it's interesting too, because I mean it's not unique 1320 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:53.079 to our generation. I mean, this is something that's gone on, 1321 01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:56.079 you know, years and years before us, right, I Mean, 1322 01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:59.760 these are generations of having late night talk show hosts. 1323 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.119 It's it's not like we're just losing something that's like 1324 01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:07.000 a thirty year old true, that's rail type of thing 1325 01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:09.439 like this is goes way way back, I mean all 1326 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:11.199 the way even really to the days of radio. So 1327 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.279 it's just kind of sad seeing the beginning of the 1328 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:15.560 end of something that's been around for a very long time. 1329 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.560 I mean, it happens, it happens, but it's still sad 1330 01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:18.960 to see it. 1331 01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:25.760 Yeah, you know, I think there's just there is something 1332 01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:30.560 that is plain to see in how fractured everyone has become, 1333 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.880 not just in their politics, in every kind of Siloh 1334 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.600 and that's not good. That's how you get that's how 1335 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.239 you get your elons being like yeah, Helen of Troy 1336 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:46.439 and his you know Amen corner, all the people who 1337 01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:48.920 hit like being like yeah, tell them Steve Dave, you 1338 01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:53.920 know Steve Dave Right, Like, I think all of this 1339 01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:56.680 is bad because it used to be some I don't 1340 01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:58.199 care if you're the richest man in the world, if 1341 01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.319 you're like yeah, Helen of Troy, peopleould be like that's 1342 01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:03.880 freaking stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And there would be like 1343 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:12.079 like like society would sort of have a a balancing effect. 1344 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.279 You know what I mean, yeah, for sure. 1345 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:18.760 And and I don't know it. I think these these benchmarks, 1346 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:22.800 these touchstones, the more they fade away, Like you remember 1347 01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:26.439 when Carson went off the air, Oh yeah, right, even 1348 01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:28.720 if even people who didn't watch it but were around 1349 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.000 that back then, remember what that was. I mean it 1350 01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:32.239 was that was a moment. 1351 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.800 I was young, and I knew it was a moment exactly. 1352 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.840 Yeah, you know, And and I don't think there's anything 1353 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.800 comparable to that, you know, yeah, yeah, which is a shame. 1354 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:45.640 You know, maybe when mister Beast stops doing his YouTube, that'll. 1355 01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:48.359 Be another generation, you know, Like I don't know what 1356 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:51.800 the version of Bette Midler singing to him on a 1357 01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.439 desk is, but he'll he'll have. 1358 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:59.560 That, you know, like that's is so funny. Yep, But 1359 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:00.479 that's what it is, right. 1360 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:04.479 I Mean, if people are watching or talking about a 1361 01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:07.680 moment from the Tonight Show or Late Night or whatever, 1362 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:10.199 more than likely they're talking about a clip they saw 1363 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.520 on YouTube. That's right, then something they actually saw in 1364 01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.600 the moment the previous night on TV. 1365 01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:16.439 Right. 1366 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.239 So and that's just a big part of this. Yeah, 1367 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:20.800 why this is going away. 1368 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:25.640 Now, one thing I would recommend, not in his last show, 1369 01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:28.239 but his next to last show. You know, I don't 1370 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:29.399 know if you ever watched the Late Show, but he 1371 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.520 would do the Colbert Questionnaire. 1372 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.680 Again, maybe clips from times. 1373 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.760 It's just you know, basically he had like this, this 1374 01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:39.119 all started with this is a clip you and I 1375 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.439 talked about where he had Keanu Reeves on oh yes, 1376 01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:45.279 and and they were talking about the up the then 1377 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:48.640 upcoming bill and Ted three and and Keanu is just 1378 01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:49.800 kind of like, yeah, and they got to do all 1379 01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:51.359 this and if they don't, you know, all of all 1380 01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.319 of everything's going to end and everybody's die, and and 1381 01:11:54.520 --> 01:11:59.640 just making conversation, Colbert is like, well, what happens when 1382 01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.560 we die? Keanu Reeves? And Keanu Reeves thinks about it 1383 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.680 for a second and he says, I know the people 1384 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:09.640 who love us will miss us, and right, and that 1385 01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:13.279 was how the audience reacted. Yeah, completely unexpected. And then 1386 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:15.680 you know Colbert has taken aback a little bit and 1387 01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:17.079 he just kind of shakes his hand and it's a 1388 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.479 beautiful sentiment, it is. And Colbert has said that moment 1389 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:24.520 led him to say, I want an opportunity for these 1390 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:27.000 types of just off the cuff interactions with people and say, 1391 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.199 he came up with this, this series of questions that 1392 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.439 he asks his guests, and so they've been doing it 1393 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:34.039 for a long time. So for his last, next last show, 1394 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.800 he himself took the questionnaire. 1395 01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:38.239 Oh interesting, but. 1396 01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:42.960 Each question was asked by a different celebrity guest. And 1397 01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:45.399 so if you go online, you'll see they have the 1398 01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.359 extended version of this, which is about forty five minutes long. 1399 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:52.079 Oh wow, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, so 1400 01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:54.039 worth a look. I think you might enjoy it. 1401 01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:55.560 Yeah, I have to check that out. I would like 1402 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:56.000 to see that. 1403 01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.800 You know. So God speed Stephen Colbert. He will be 1404 01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.520 miss but he will be fine, of course. Yeah. 1405 01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.520 He's writing a Lord of the Rings movie right now. 1406 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.119 Right in the Lord of the Rings movie. And the 1407 01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:09.199 great thing is is he is doing what many of 1408 01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.479 us would like, which is if he wants, not a 1409 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.000 damn thing. Yeah, and that sound good, it. 1410 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.920 Really does, I mean, you know, and he's been he's 1411 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.159 had so many chapters and excelled in each of them. 1412 01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:25.520 And yeah, not many people can say that, and you know, 1413 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.479 especially in his industry. And now it's cool that he's 1414 01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.760 got another chapter set up. That is something he's very 1415 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.600 passionate about the world of Lord of the Rings. 1416 01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.199 So that's you know, What's what's funny is is in 1417 01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:41.960 that questionnaire session, I was mentioning one of the questions 1418 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:46.600 was asked by his wife, who came out and and 1419 01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:48.279 I forgot what the question she asked us, But she 1420 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:53.560 says to him, remember thirty years ago when you and 1421 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:58.000 I were in Chicago and both of us were unemployed, 1422 01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:00.680 and we didn't know we had a little baby. We 1423 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:02.000 didn't know what we were going to do. Could you 1424 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.319 have imagine back then, thirty years later you would be 1425 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:04.920 sitting here. 1426 01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.520 That's funny because I was actually thinking, but I didn't 1427 01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:13.439 say it. I wonder how he felt when he was 1428 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.800 on the Dana Carvey Show, right as a sketch performer, 1429 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.119 thinking like, dude, I'm on a show with one of 1430 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:21.640 the greatest who ever did it on SNL. This is 1431 01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:23.720 a home run, this is going to launch me. And 1432 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.880 then that show was canceled almost immediately. That's right, And 1433 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:27.439 then he. 1434 01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.760 Talks about he talks about it in that documentary about 1435 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:33.439 the Dana Carvey Show. He says it and when you're 1436 01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.760 working you think, oh, that's it. I'm just going to 1437 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.279 work forever. And then when you're not working, you're like, well, 1438 01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.640 that's it, I'm never working again. Uh huh. Yeah, and 1439 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:43.359 just that sense of like you just don't know what's 1440 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:44.640 around the corner exactly. 1441 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:45.039 Yeah. 1442 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:49.560 Right. But there's also something important there as well, which 1443 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.720 is that, you know the Dana Carvey Show, which lasted 1444 01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:56.760 like like a minute and a half, you know, was 1445 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.439 it like canceled during a commercial break or something. I mean, 1446 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.880 all most you know, it lasted about six I've said 1447 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:05.880 this before that that show it aired when I was 1448 01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:08.560 a junior in high school and I was doing entertainment 1449 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.920 reviews for our paper, and I wanted to review the 1450 01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.479 Dana Carvey Show, and it was canceled before I could 1451 01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.800 even because we were monthly, right, so like there was 1452 01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:22.960 like no point, you know. Yeah, but but you know, 1453 01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:26.960 he and Steve Corell came up together, and so they 1454 01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:30.920 were already friends, and then after the Dana Carvey they 1455 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:32.960 were both on the Dana Carvey Show. Dana Carvey Show ends, 1456 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.720 and then Correll or no Colbert gets on The Daily Show, 1457 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:42.880 and then he gets Correl on there, and obviously neither 1458 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:45.720 of them has ever looked back. Yeah, right, but there's 1459 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.520 just something about you know, like you lift people up 1460 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:54.359 along the way, and your relationships that you build are 1461 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:58.079 what you carry with you from one experience to the next, right, like, 1462 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.159 because people will think of you when they don't have to. 1463 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:04.199 And and I can speak to this in terms of 1464 01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:06.239 my own professional life. I know you can speak to 1465 01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.960 this in terms of your professional life. That matters so much. 1466 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:17.800 Just just not even like just be decent, you know, yeah, 1467 01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.600 just be a person and and that stuff. It pays 1468 01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:26.039 dividends you can't even uh contemplate. 1469 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:29.760 Yeah, and not just professionally but personally absolutely, yeah. 1470 01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:36.279 You know. Anyway, that's it. We've so we've solved all 1471 01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:44.880 of humanity's problems. Now it's it's been great. What hard? Sorry, Yes, 1472 01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:55.920 that comes the greatest challenge of all, which we'll talk 1473 01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:03.439 about right after this. And now we're pleased to bring 1474 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:10.319 you our features and we are back. And you know 1475 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:14.079 who else is back, Brian? Why it's. 1476 01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:16.479 Who's that Zachy? 1477 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:24.159 Why it's the spawn of Jaba, the Hut Rata the Hut. Yeah, 1478 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.680 which if you have watched Star Wars, you know that 1479 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.439 we saw him as a baby in the Clone Wars 1480 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:34.560 animated movie that launched the Star Wars Clone Wars series. 1481 01:17:34.720 --> 01:17:35.119 That's right. 1482 01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:36.039 We get a little. 1483 01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:40.520 Visual of that too, a little hollow picture of him 1484 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:41.359 as a little baby. 1485 01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:45.279 That's right. Also back our din Jar and Grogu and oh, 1486 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:47.079 the Star Wars franchise on the big screen. 1487 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:50.680 Yeah, since what seven years ago? 1488 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:54.479 Seven years, six and a half years? Wow, the Mandalorian 1489 01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:59.479 and Grogu is the what are we up to now? 1490 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:06.319 Ten Star Wars movies? No? Eleven, eleven, right, twelve, twelve? Right? 1491 01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:09.279 Yeah, because Solo? Yeah, well, I mean and then. 1492 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:11.319 Quickly if you want to include the Clone War I 1493 01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:15.079 was just gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, thirteen. Okay, Well 1494 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:18.560 that as we record this. This is this is Friday 1495 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:22.479 morning that we're recording this. It has made twelve million 1496 01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:26.800 from its Thursday previews. Not bad, which, yeah, that's I 1497 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:31.119 think that's somewhere around or just below what's Solo opened 1498 01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:36.279 to back in twenty eighteen. I will say the theater 1499 01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:37.880 I watched and I went I went to a two 1500 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:42.159 o'clock Imax screening and it was like two thirds full. 1501 01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:50.079 So that was more than I would have expected, not 1502 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:52.000 because I had any expectations going on about the movie. 1503 01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:53.479 I just you know, at that time of day, it 1504 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:55.640 was a big crowd for that time of day, is 1505 01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:55.920 what I mean. 1506 01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:59.960 Yeah, yeah, okay, well I guess as long as you said, 1507 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.800 I will say. I was in a neighborhood, not my 1508 01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:08.079 normal neighborhood, a different one, and okay, just do to whatever. 1509 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:09.880 I had to see it somewhere else. So I was 1510 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.880 looking at theaters in the area, and I intentionally. 1511 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:14.840 You can admit, you have mob hit men who are 1512 01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:15.840 staking out your name. 1513 01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:18.840 It's been a very tricky month for me. 1514 01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:22.760 No, but I went out of a out of my 1515 01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:24.560 way to catch it in a theater with the most 1516 01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.079 amount of people. I like looked and saw in my 1517 01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:28.800 little regal network. I was like, which one has the 1518 01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.439 biggest crowd, because I wanted to be around the energy 1519 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.199 and also see what the energy was for this movie. 1520 01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:40.319 So that was my experience there. We go, okay, well. 1521 01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:46.560 Yeah, okay, so well you know what, here's what I'm 1522 01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:53.039 going to say. Yes, the problem that I have had 1523 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:59.800 with the Mandalorian serious concept from the beginning almost is 1524 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:06.960 that it is a costume, not a character. And this 1525 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:11.119 movie did nothing to dispel that. It really just underscored 1526 01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:15.199 to me that I really don't find this character interesting 1527 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:21.199 at all. And so it was it was like, so 1528 01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:23.359 I saw somebody online, be like, it felt like four 1529 01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:25.319 episodes of the show, and I don't even think that. 1530 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:27.960 It felt like video game levels. 1531 01:20:29.399 --> 01:20:32.640 I've seen both what you just said, Yes, yeah. 1532 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:36.079 Right, it's like, oh, here's the thing. Now the Mandalorian 1533 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:39.640 comes in. Poo poo poo. Okay, done, now I'm moving. Oh, 1534 01:20:39.800 --> 01:20:42.920 here's the bad. Here's a Mandalorian. Poop poo poo. And 1535 01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:44.079 then we move on to the next level. 1536 01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:47.319 Here, talk to this vendor. He'll give you some information. 1537 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:49.239 Then go to the next place. 1538 01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:50.239 Poo poo poo. 1539 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:54.279 Yeah, it was. It was so much of that, and 1540 01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:58.079 it's just this guy who's face I can't freaking see. 1541 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.960 Yes, except for five minutes way. 1542 01:21:02.720 --> 01:21:05.560 Too late in the movie. Yeah, and here's the thing. Okay, 1543 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:08.800 we'll talk about this more. But here's the thing. Okay, 1544 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.720 it's one thing. This is from the show. It's one thing. 1545 01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:15.920 If the Mandalorians, like every single one of them, are like, no, no, bro, 1546 01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:18.479 you don't take your mask off, right, No, No, it's 1547 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:25.720 this this sect of like real hardcore cultists right right, right, 1548 01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:29.439 Like they're the weird ones yeah, yeah, right, right, right, right, 1549 01:21:29.560 --> 01:21:32.880 right right. So you think the journey of the character 1550 01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:36.239 would be like, oh, I can still be me without 1551 01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:42.159 all this like cultist stuff. But instead the show kind 1552 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:44.000 of moved him a little off of that, and then 1553 01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:47.239 they moved him back. I'm like, no, no, we can't 1554 01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:50.079 change that. I'm like, but that's not interesting. 1555 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:57.279 Yeah, okay, dude, I didn't know what. I had no 1556 01:21:57.319 --> 01:21:58.720 idea what your opinion. 1557 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:01.199 Was this honestly, but I'll tell you something. I didn't 1558 01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:03.199 even hate this movie. I really didn't. I did not 1559 01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:07.800 hate it. I was just really apathetic, and and two 1560 01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:10.439 thirds in I was like, I'm kind of done, you know. 1561 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.680 But I wasn't like sitting there hating it because I 1562 01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:16.880 think just as like, just as like colored shit passing 1563 01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.399 in front of your face. It's fine, fine, whatever. 1564 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:26.439 I feel so much. We're comfortable in my chair right now. 1565 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.199 I don't want to stop you. I don't want to 1566 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:32.000 stop you. I want you to keep there. 1567 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:36.039 There is a scene about two thirds of the way 1568 01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:41.479 in where we where the Mandalorian is hurt. Okay, yes, 1569 01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:45.359 and here's the thing. You're You're like, well, he's not 1570 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:50.119 gonna die, and they spend I'm gonna say, like twenty 1571 01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:57.720 five minutes on him just being unconscious, and I was like, 1572 01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:02.600 we get it, guys. Like to me, it's like because 1573 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.960 right after that there's a scene where he's back again 1574 01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:08.119 and then he gets attacked by more monsters, and I 1575 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.079 was like, I want him to get bitten again and 1576 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:17.640 then have another twenty minutes of him being unconscious. Yeah. 1577 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.239 So honestly, I have so many thoughts, but I'm kind 1578 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:24.960 of like I'm I'm finally at a place where I'm like, 1579 01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:28.399 I don't think Disney knows what they're doing, and it's 1580 01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:32.359 now like they're so freaked out. They're like they're like 1581 01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:33.600 Roger Myers. 1582 01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:36.119 Like, you don't know what you want, right, right, right right. 1583 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:38.239 You don't want this, you don't want that. So they 1584 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:41.199 landed on something that I'm sure they thought, well, this 1585 01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:44.479 is our safest bet because this is the thing that 1586 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:49.720 a plurality of fans have liked. Yeah, and so we 1587 01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:54.600 end up with this thing that is well made. Problem 1588 01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:59.439 uh huh. It's well made, it's well directed. Jon Favreau 1589 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:04.279 knows his way around this type of movie. Yes, I'm 1590 01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.239 not interested in the character at all this that's my 1591 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:09.800 biggest problem. That's my I just can't get into him. 1592 01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:15.159 Just take that effing helmet off. Give me Pedro Pascal. 1593 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:22.079 You know, yeah, right, I think Pedro Pascal gets top 1594 01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.760 billing for I'm going to say five minutes because I 1595 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:26.640 don't believe that's him in any of the rest of. 1596 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:29.640 Oh no, it's I mean, it isn't. It's a bunch 1597 01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:30.199 of stunt men. 1598 01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:32.359 Yeah, So you know, I don't know anyway this. 1599 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:41.680 Yeah, I love this. I okay, I do want to 1600 01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:42.039 say this. 1601 01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.720 Opinions are very very mixed online, and so I do 1602 01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:52.680 want to acknowledge I have seen people enjoy this, and 1603 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:56.000 I am so happy for you, and I don't that's 1604 01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:59.159 not condescension. I really am, like, I'm really happy that 1605 01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:00.920 people are enjoying this. I think it's something you can 1606 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.840 take your kids to and they're probably gonna like it. 1607 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:07.640 It's an easy to follow adventure. I can only give 1608 01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:12.239 you my feelings here. So you know you said you 1609 01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:15.359 didn't feel this way, but I did feel like this 1610 01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:19.239 movie felt like three decent enough episodes stitched together. 1611 01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:21.840 And and what I mean. 1612 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:22.319 By that is. 1613 01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:29.800 It we don't like the framework of that show is 1614 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:31.680 it is just sort of an episode of the week, 1615 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:33.760 you know, And so it's like we have our character 1616 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:35.840 and he wanders into a town and he meets an 1617 01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:40.159 interesting guy or you know person and has to help them, 1618 01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:42.159 and then it ends with our people walking off into 1619 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:43.000 the sunset again. 1620 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:45.840 And that's kind of what this felt like. 1621 01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.560 I mean, Rada is probably the most interesting character in 1622 01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.159 the movie, but he's always kind of in the back 1623 01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:58.119 seat because we're following our you know, detective character, right, 1624 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.800 you know, it's always framed around our detective character like 1625 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:07.239 the show. But this character, to your point, has no personality, 1626 01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:12.359 has no wants, has no needs, doesn't emote, is incapable 1627 01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.920 of emoting, and so. 1628 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:25.279 His voice is this like it's it's just like this monotone. 1629 01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:26.039 Which I don't I think there is a way you 1630 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:28.079 could make that kind of work too, but like this 1631 01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:29.760 movie doesn't make any attempts at that. 1632 01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:33.840 I mean, now my brain's all over the place because 1633 01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:37.000 I have so much to say. But there are there 1634 01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:42.720 are I would say, there low to basically no stakes 1635 01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:46.199 for our hero right throughout this whole thing. 1636 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:48.159 Because he's the baddest badass. 1637 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.840 Yeah, but what does he want? He doesn't need anything. 1638 01:26:52.119 --> 01:26:54.560 He's just helping this guy because he's doing a task, 1639 01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:58.239 and then that Rada kind of disappears for a little bit, 1640 01:26:58.279 --> 01:26:59.720 like in the middle of the movie, and I was 1641 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:01.720 just like, so, so now we're back with this guy. 1642 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.239 Are what are the stakes? Like? What does he what 1643 01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:07.439 does he need? What's the tension? There is none? Right, 1644 01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:10.079 And then the. 1645 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:14.119 Action is well shot and I did enjoy it at first, 1646 01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:16.039 but then it started to feel like a little repetitive 1647 01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:21.119 to me. And and like you said, there's no moment 1648 01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:22.600 where you think he's gonna lose a battle. 1649 01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:24.359 So there's that, but you could say that about a 1650 01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:27.880 lot of movies. But then I think, if I'm not mistaken, 1651 01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:32.039 he fights a creature in a pit three times in 1652 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:42.239 this movie three times the same thing. He fights two 1653 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:46.680 water creatures twice, like in a pit, but they're different. 1654 01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.600 Like so it was like, are you even trying? 1655 01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:52.560 You know what I mean? 1656 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.800 So, but if this had been diced up into three episodes, 1657 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:57.199 I might not have clocked it as much. 1658 01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:01.640 Wow, you know what I mean. So this just feels 1659 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.800 just everything about this felt there's some fun to be 1660 01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:07.439 had on the surface, but the whole thing just felt 1661 01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:11.840 very passive. Yeah to me, you know, the story, the 1662 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.439 character like everything. It just there was no immediacy. There 1663 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:16.920 was no in the first act like well, if we 1664 01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.000 don't do this, all this is at stake, you might 1665 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:23.239 lose Grogu forever, you might die, and what will Grogu have, 1666 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:27.279 Like there's no the rebellion or the New Republic needs 1667 01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:29.520 this or else. There's none of that. 1668 01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:32.439 And one other thought about the Grogu of it all, 1669 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:34.720 it's like, dude, stop taking that kid with you like that. 1670 01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:37.039 I had that feeling too when he was putting him 1671 01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:38.560 in the seatbelt. I was like, maybe don't bring a 1672 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.600 kid into a battle. That's like you're irresponsible, you. 1673 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.039 Know, I know, but I will say, you know if 1674 01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.920 I there were moments that I thought were fun, Like 1675 01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:49.119 the opening I thought was very fun, Like, yeah, we 1676 01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:52.039 begin on washers and stuff, and we get everything that 1677 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:55.960 I enjoy about Mandalorian and grog in that right. We 1678 01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:57.520 get the Star Wars of it, we get the ad 1679 01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:02.399 at walkers, we get stormtroopers, get like detonators, and we 1680 01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:05.880 get the cuteness. We get how awesome and badass uh 1681 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:08.560 you know Mandalorian is. And then we get the cuteness 1682 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:12.039 of Grogu where he notices the little bombs, and it 1683 01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:14.319 seems like Mandalorian isn't like aware of them, so Grog 1684 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:17.039 is like like tapping us tell me, like h Like 1685 01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:20.119 I was like, this is okay, this is fun. But 1686 01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:22.439 then after that, you know, when the story kicks in, 1687 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:29.640 is just just the most you know, stakeless sort of 1688 01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:34.079 just hitting some beats, and it just felt yeah, I 1689 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:38.119 don't know, just like some okay episodes, ideas stitched together, 1690 01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:40.239 and then they were like, let's put in theaters. 1691 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:44.359 Yeah it, you know, I mean they they kaibashed a 1692 01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:48.159 fourth season of The Mandalorian in favor of this movie. 1693 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.239 That's what it feels like, that they took maybe their 1694 01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:54.680 favorite ideas from those and smushed them together awkwardly into 1695 01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:55.520 a feature film. 1696 01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:57.960 And it's very odd because it's like, you know, it's 1697 01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:02.079 like his his co pilot, his buddy that's Zeb from Rebels. 1698 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:07.520 Do you know his name from watching the movie? No? 1699 01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:09.760 Like I recognize it, Like I know he's a character 1700 01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:13.560 that I'm sure a certain group of fandom will love, 1701 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.319 but I don't really know who he is. 1702 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.920 See that's a problem, right, Like what what is what 1703 01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:22.239 is his relationship with Mando? What? You know what I mean? 1704 01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:26.720 Like and does he have any sort of characteristics other 1705 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.960 than he just flies sometimes exactly. You know, there's he's 1706 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:33.199 never put in peril or you know, has feelings about 1707 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:35.560 anything like that. 1708 01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:43.119 That's the that stuff. It's this is It's frustrating because 1709 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:50.359 because to me, this movie leans into just people's general 1710 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:55.359 familiarity with either broadly Star Wars or you know, these 1711 01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:59.560 specific things in a way that works to the detriment 1712 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.880 of the story. MM because they're like, oh, we've built 1713 01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:04.720 we made a story that will work even if you 1714 01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.520 haven't seen this series, And I'm like, I don't believe 1715 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:09.920 you that. I don't. I don't. I think the only 1716 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.479 thing that would that would have you emotionally invested in 1717 01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:17.560 in this is if you if you've seen you know, 1718 01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:19.319 at least the first couple of seasons of the show. 1719 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.439 I agree with that, and also feel like it didn't 1720 01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:24.560 have to be that way. Yeah, I mean the fact 1721 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:24.920 that you. 1722 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:29.399 Didn't generate any new stakes or things for them to 1723 01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.560 you know, realize about one another or learned about themselves. Like, 1724 01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:36.720 so this doesn't stand on its own in that way 1725 01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:39.640 unless you don't care about that and you just want 1726 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:42.359 to see stuff happen for like two hours and maybe 1727 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.399 maybe you know, and and sometimes I can enjoy that 1728 01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:46.399 sort of thing, but I just. 1729 01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:51.079 Well, yeah, I said this before on a previous episode, 1730 01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:58.239 but the fact that the second season and with with 1731 01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:02.239 Mandalorian and grow Goop except rated. It's a great emotional moment, 1732 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:08.319 and then they decide to reunite them, not even in 1733 01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:11.039 season three of the show, but in between in the 1734 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:12.000 Boba Fett show. 1735 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:14.000 Yeah, that's right, Yeah, yeah right. 1736 01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.640 I'm like, this is proof you guys don't know what 1737 01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:17.840 you're doing, because there's your story for the movie. 1738 01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.920 Yo, totally, and that would have so much more emotion. 1739 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:27.119 Yeah, yeah, you know, oh you know Grog who's been 1740 01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:29.640 kidnapped from the Jedi school or something, and then Mandalorian 1741 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:30.439 has to rescued whatever. 1742 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:32.680 I don't know, you know, that would have been a 1743 01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:33.159 good movie. 1744 01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:38.520 There's it's very odd, you know. Well Ayead, sorry, Well 1745 01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.840 I was just gonna say so. I took my older 1746 01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:45.760 two so nineteen and seventeen, and my nineteen year old 1747 01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.119 was like nah, and and my seventeen year old didn't 1748 01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:51.920 like it at all. Yeah, and you know these are 1749 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:54.399 my I mean, gosh, I've been watching Star Wars movies 1750 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:58.159 with them since you know, Force awakens, right, Yeah, so 1751 01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:01.520 going on that journey. But my, my, my, you know, 1752 01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:03.079 my twelve year old he's like, oh, I want to 1753 01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:05.119 go see it. So I do want to take him 1754 01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:08.119 mm hmm, because I'd like to see what he thinks 1755 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:11.039 of it, totally, because I think that's important too. It's like, well, 1756 01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:13.359 it's gonna mean different things based on the age that 1757 01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:18.840 you're at, but certainly, yeah, for me, I was admittedly 1758 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:22.479 I did not have my coffee yesterday before going, so 1759 01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:24.720 I did feel my eyes getting heavy. 1760 01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:26.840 Zachy, so did I. 1761 01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:31.119 Actually there was a moment where I closed my eyes 1762 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:34.039 because I was getting so tired, and I actually even 1763 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:38.560 thought I wouldn't I won't miss what's happening. I did 1764 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:41.239 think that, and then I thought, no, if I've got 1765 01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:45.159 to talk about this, like I owe it to people 1766 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:46.720 who are actually giving their time to. 1767 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.800 I should watch Rad of the Hut flexing. 1768 01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:54.399 Which, by the way, what an interesting idea. 1769 01:33:54.039 --> 01:33:56.600 He was most interesting character in the movie in my. 1770 01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.319 Opinion, completely agree like, but he feels like that sort 1771 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:02.920 of middle to backgrounded character in a law and Order 1772 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.520 episode where you're really just sticking in the perspective of 1773 01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:09.680 the cop, you know, what I mean in every single 1774 01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:12.560 episode and he just meets an interesting guy, but it's 1775 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:14.800 really more about the cop, you know, trying to get 1776 01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:15.800 to the bottom of everything. 1777 01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:17.479 But I was like, the whole idea. I mean, I 1778 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.399 feel like you could even take this story that they 1779 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:23.960 had and re you know, redo it a little bit 1780 01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.960 to make it a more rounded out feeling movie. 1781 01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:29.319 Event. 1782 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:33.600 I mean, Jaba the huts Son doesn't want to be seen, 1783 01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:37.800 you know, like or thought of the way that people 1784 01:34:37.800 --> 01:34:39.279 think of his father, So he wants to become his 1785 01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:41.039 own person and he's going to do this thing, but 1786 01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.760 he's mixed up in something that isn't is you know, 1787 01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:48.239 more dangerous than he realizes, and that's interesting, you know, 1788 01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:52.119 but it's all kind of, I don't know, felt slightly 1789 01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:54.920 in the background or something, versus being what it was 1790 01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.239 actually the movie is actually about. I mean, I know 1791 01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.359 that's not exactly true, but somehow the way that it 1792 01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.000 was all framed and following this protagonist, like we were saying, 1793 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:05.960 who has no face and does an emote and doesn't 1794 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.039 seem to have any skin in this game really except 1795 01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:12.880 for making some bucks. Like it's just hard to get 1796 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:13.960 invested in all of this. 1797 01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:18.399 Yeah, well, the movie alludes to a little bit where 1798 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:22.439 he's like, I don't work for gangsters anymore. Yeah, he's 1799 01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:25.880 working with the New Republic. Mm hmm. Okay, well let's 1800 01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:30.399 get into that a little bit totally right, Like again, 1801 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.319 just fundamentally, to me, all of this can be solved 1802 01:35:33.600 --> 01:35:39.159 by not making him, you know, locked under that helmet. 1803 01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:43.840 H I don't think there's any reason that he Again, 1804 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:46.399 to me, this is just like the difference between watching 1805 01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:48.079 a show and a movie, because I didn't even like 1806 01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:49.640 it in the show when he always had the helmet on. 1807 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:51.800 In a movie, they should we should have been way 1808 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:55.680 past that. We should be watching Pedro Pascal. He's got 1809 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:59.920 an interesting face. He's got an emotive face, right, remember 1810 01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.399 and he says goodbye to Grogu in the second season. 1811 01:36:02.479 --> 01:36:05.079 I do, yeah, I can picture that right now, you know, 1812 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:06.840 let us see his. 1813 01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:11.479 Face, yeah, or even you know, I if you do 1814 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.560 want to keep that conceit. And I can understand that 1815 01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:15.159 some people might be yelling back at us, like but 1816 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:17.279 that's the Mandalorian way, and like. 1817 01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:18.159 It's a dumb way. 1818 01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:21.800 Well, I'll actually say, I get it, but you've got 1819 01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:23.920 to find interesting ways to play with it. 1820 01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:27.079 You know, like do like they should do like RDJ 1821 01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:28.439 iron Man right, Like. 1822 01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.000 Oh, that's interesting, I was gonna say, or even it 1823 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.800 makes me think of in season one where they make 1824 01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:37.279 such a big deal and we understand that Mandalorians don't 1825 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.319 take their helmets off, but he is willing to disgrace 1826 01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:44.279 himself right by taking his helmet off because that's what 1827 01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:44.880 he has to do. 1828 01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:45.520 It's like him. 1829 01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:48.560 Denying his religion or something, right, but he's willing to 1830 01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:53.439 do that in order to get Grogu back. And that's 1831 01:36:53.479 --> 01:36:55.720 the moment I remember, out of all the seasons, I 1832 01:36:55.720 --> 01:37:00.560 thought that was so powerful and heartfelt and amazing, And 1833 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.600 after spending all these episodes with his stoic character, seeing 1834 01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:07.880 him willing to do that to himself because he's so 1835 01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:09.960 passionate about this kid where it seemed unlikely that he 1836 01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:11.720 would have this relationship with this little kid. 1837 01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:13.479 It's amazing. 1838 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:18.520 But there's nothing in this movie that even approaches that 1839 01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:21.319 level of emotion. And I was like, well, that's a problem. 1840 01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:22.960 I mean, a movie's got to be something that's worth 1841 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:25.720 leaving your house for. It's like this couldn't be contained 1842 01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:27.399 on a streaming service. You need to leave your house 1843 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:29.760 and pay twenty dollars to go see this. That's how 1844 01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:32.560 big this story is. That's how much bigger this story is. 1845 01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:35.600 And this didn't even come close to being that. And 1846 01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:37.880 it's funny because I know we're being kind of hard 1847 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:39.920 on it, and we're like raising our voices and stuff, 1848 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:44.079 and I think that's because we care so much, you 1849 01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:47.079 know what I mean. And it's really hard to feel 1850 01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:50.560 let down by something that I went in with kind 1851 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:53.960 of low expectations, admittedly, but it made me so disappointed 1852 01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.920 that they didn't even like meet those expectations. Like I 1853 01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.439 just felt so let down by this, and it makes 1854 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:03.800 me sad, you know. And and it's not even I 1855 01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:05.600 think you said at the beginning, it's not even necessarily 1856 01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:09.479 a bad movie. It's just really underwhelming and not at 1857 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.039 all what it should have been if this is gonna 1858 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:14.159 be their big Hey we're back in theaters. 1859 01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.439 I mean, it isn't that just it's it really does 1860 01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:21.000 feel like a placeholder, which if you're not like under 1861 01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:24.640 the gun legally to get something out like this is 1862 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:26.439 you know, it's like we were talking about Lord of 1863 01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:27.800 the Rings, you know, a couple of years ago they 1864 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:31.239 put out that animated movie, Yes War of the will 1865 01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:35.760 hear him and that was freaking rough man. But that 1866 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:38.880 was like what I described that movie as when I 1867 01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:41.399 reviewed it. I was I was like, it's like running 1868 01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:44.319 on a treadmill for two hours, Like you got your 1869 01:38:44.319 --> 01:38:47.000 steps in, but you haven't gotten anywhere. Mm hmm. A 1870 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:48.479 little similar vibe here. 1871 01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:50.640 Right, definitely, yeah, where. 1872 01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:52.119 It's like, well, you know, we've been through all this, 1873 01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:54.199 and it's certainly been loud, and there's certainly been a 1874 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:58.359 lot of explosions and things. But but I, you know, 1875 01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:02.079 I I don't feel like like there's been any progression 1876 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:04.600 in the universe. And by the way, I'm not saying 1877 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:10.399 I'm not saying I need like death star level stakes 1878 01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:12.520 in I would know I would say, I would say 1879 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:18.399 not that, please, right, But I want I want emotional progression. Yes, 1880 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:20.960 I want my guy to be at a different place 1881 01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:22.279 at the end than he is at the beginning. 1882 01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:26.960 And I don't get that sense at all. Completely agree that. 1883 01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.479 I think that is the major problem with this movie. 1884 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:35.479 Just what you said, so pressure is on for a starfighter. 1885 01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:36.800 I guess that's what this all means. 1886 01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:40.039 But you know, I just get the feeling that that's 1887 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.680 going to be a little bit more in the arena 1888 01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:45.399 that we expect. 1889 01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:48.960 You know what, I'm not gonna have any expectations because 1890 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:50.359 that's what gets into trouble. 1891 01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:55.479 Well yeah, I just I'm just wondering why they felt 1892 01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:56.600 the need to do this. 1893 01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:00.560 I think it really comes down to them, well this 1894 01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:01.760 is the safest bet. 1895 01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:04.640 Yeah, but why if they have one coming out next year? Like, 1896 01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.920 why even do this this? This feels like they had 1897 01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:09.439 like a shareholder's call and they had to be like, 1898 01:40:09.520 --> 01:40:11.560 we've got a Star Wars movie coming or something. 1899 01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:14.800 You got you got to like some guys sitting at 1900 01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.439 the head of the table with a stogy. Well everybody, 1901 01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:23.239 I mean like this Mandalorian, Yeah, yeah, this melowtonin man 1902 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.119 right right, right right, just give the give the kids, 1903 01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:28.800 give those rubes some more. 1904 01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:33.279 Of that, you know, right? Well yeah, no, please. 1905 01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:39.920 No, I think that it It frustrates me because because, 1906 01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:42.520 as I said, I think it is a well directed 1907 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.920 film in that all the action sequences and things are 1908 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:49.640 well staged. I mean, Fabro is just very good at this. Yeah, 1909 01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:55.039 And so that's why I'm just like, I'm like picking apart, well, 1910 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:58.359 like where did this go wrong at a conceptual level? 1911 01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:01.199 Did it go wrong at a at an execution level. 1912 01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:03.199 I'm I'm I'm not entirely sure. 1913 01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:08.079 Yeah, I don't. I don't know either, I mean I do. 1914 01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:10.760 I want to note some of the things that I 1915 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:11.640 did enjoy though. 1916 01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:16.520 Well, one thing I'll say before before, uh, the Mandalorian 1917 01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:19.279 theme is a freaking banger. 1918 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:20.079 Man. Oh it's great. 1919 01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:23.399 Yeah. Right, And so we have our little opening action sequence, 1920 01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:25.760 which is cool as we described, and then we hear 1921 01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:29.840 and I was like, okay, here we go. I was excited. 1922 01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:31.439 Yeah, me too, you know. 1923 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:34.399 Uh, And I mean it is just a great piece 1924 01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:35.520 of Star Wars music, that's all. 1925 01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:36.920 No, I agree. 1926 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.600 I think it's iconic, honestly, Like you hear it, it's distinctive. 1927 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.960 You immediately it captures the vibe so well, it's great. 1928 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:48.279 Oh, by the way, I hope, I hope Ridley Scott 1929 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.840 gets a royalty check every time somebody pays homage to 1930 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:52.520 Blade Runner. 1931 01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:56.520 Oh my gosh, yes, dude, I literally, okay, but. 1932 01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:59.199 That is and I liked that sequence just to because 1933 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:00.479 I'm not making fun of it. I think it's very 1934 01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.119 well executed. I'm like, man, it's like so clearly a 1935 01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:04.680 Blade Runner homage. One. 1936 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.479 Well, okay, yes, you just said everything I was feeling, 1937 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:11.479 which is when it happened. I was, you know, a 1938 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:13.880 big complaint we bring up a lot, especially with some 1939 01:42:13.920 --> 01:42:16.760 of these Star Wars shows and other streaming shows, is 1940 01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:21.680 just depending leaning too hard on the volume, so it 1941 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:25.680 never feels like anybody's actually anywhere, you know, And I 1942 01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:29.000 think I was hoping that wouldn't be the case with 1943 01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:30.560 this movie. And I thought this movie did a very 1944 01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:34.199 good job of creating at least what felt in most 1945 01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:36.960 cases like real environments that they were walking through, and 1946 01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:43.279 that sort of Blade Runner city scape in particular, I 1947 01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:48.039 thought felt like a real, big, expansive location. And I 1948 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:50.800 did immediately clock like, oh, this he literally stepped into 1949 01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:51.760 the set of Blade Runner. 1950 01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:54.079 But this is. 1951 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.840 Great, Like this feels like a real place. This feels like, 1952 01:42:59.159 --> 01:43:02.520 you know, his real splashes from puddles on the ground. 1953 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:06.399 And I really loved all that and all the Neon billboards. 1954 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:06.800 And things like that. 1955 01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:09.359 So yeah, anyway, that was one of my my things 1956 01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:10.199 that I did like a lot. 1957 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:16.079 I also like that that Martin Scorsese is it's just 1958 01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:19.239 here and and you know, for all of his like cinema, 1959 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:22.159 it's like he's just he just plays a weird monkey guy. 1960 01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:23.039 On Star Wars. 1961 01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:25.479 I didn't even think about that the cinema thing. 1962 01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:28.279 But he's he's playing the same species that John Favreau 1963 01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:31.800 played in right, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, he's he's funny. 1964 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:33.520 It's this sort of nervous little informant. 1965 01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:35.960 Yeah, it's very very Scorsese. 1966 01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.000 Honestly, I think the thing this movie does best is 1967 01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:42.600 its action sequences, as repetitive unfortunately as they get, it 1968 01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:46.720 is cool like seeing him in that opening sequence when 1969 01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:49.720 the camera goes through the little into the through a 1970 01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:53.039 corridor into the base of an at at and then 1971 01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:55.720 Mando enters, takes out all the guys and then follows 1972 01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:57.640 him back into the piloting area. 1973 01:43:57.680 --> 01:43:59.680 I was like, that was very cool. That's very well done. 1974 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:03.479 And he uses his blaster, he uses his little rope thing, 1975 01:44:03.520 --> 01:44:07.000 he uses his flamethrower. He like, I thought that stuff 1976 01:44:07.039 --> 01:44:09.359 was a lot of fun. And what it also does 1977 01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:15.079 really well is the adorable puppets, right, like I mean 1978 01:44:15.119 --> 01:44:17.159 the Babu Frick characters. 1979 01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:22.000 Although I gotta say a little goes a long way 1980 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:25.560 with with with the Babu Frick people whatever they're called. 1981 01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:30.000 You know, I'm understand that, but I think for me, 1982 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.920 they were making me light up anytime they appeared, just 1983 01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:36.000 because it was like bringing me out of just sort 1984 01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:36.720 of saminess. 1985 01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:37.960 That's fair. 1986 01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:40.640 And like when they just actually never got a lot of. 1987 01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:42.800 Puppets in general though, yeah, I mean not just them, but. 1988 01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:45.560 And they're they're clumsy looking, and I was like, that's 1989 01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:49.000 kind of fun, Like I agree with that. And when 1990 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.760 they're just there's this static shot I think they're walking 1991 01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:53.279 through a pipe and one of them is. 1992 01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:57.359 Like big pipe. That's probably the hardest I laughed in 1993 01:44:57.359 --> 01:44:59.640 the movie, I think. 1994 01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:03.399 To your point about about like the action scenes or 1995 01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:06.520 like when we see Mandalorian just like beating the living 1996 01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:08.399 shit out of it of people in a room, right, 1997 01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:11.600 and you watch it, you're like, guy is such a badass, right, 1998 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:16.359 But to me, like this is this is the dilemma, right, Like, 1999 01:45:16.520 --> 01:45:18.600 like I'll give you an example. Just last week or 2000 01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:22.399 two weeks ago on Disney Plus, they dropped a Punisher special, 2001 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:30.239 yes with John Brenthal, and there there is something comparable. 2002 01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:33.159 Did you watch that by any chance? No? So there's 2003 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:36.640 a sequence in that special it's like forty five minute things. 2004 01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:40.720 So basically this this this mob wife who the Punisher 2005 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.359 killed her whole family. She basically finds out where the 2006 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:45.479 punisher is. He's in like this apartment complex, and she 2007 01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:48.880 puts up she sends out his location and puts a 2008 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:53.239 bounty on his head. Right, So it's like whatever, fifteen 2009 01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:56.359 minutes of just people coming at him like video game characters, 2010 01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.520 and he's just you know, they got they're advancing on 2011 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.960 him with axes and lead pipes and baseball bats and aks, 2012 01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:06.600 and he's just I mean, it's like the raid, you know, yeah, ok, yeah, right, 2013 01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:10.720 and you're like, man, what a badass? Right? But what 2014 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:15.239 the Special does that I think is necessary is it 2015 01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:21.239 frames this sequence with I mean, it basically bookends it 2016 01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:25.920 with his angst over all the killing he's done and 2017 01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.840 how he misses his family and he's contemplating ending his life, 2018 01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:33.199 and they're sort of an emotional framework, right, And I 2019 01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:35.119 have and I've noted this in my view, I have 2020 01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:38.680 qualms with how well those two elements merge together. But 2021 01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:42.880 I understand the instinct because it's boring if you just 2022 01:46:43.039 --> 01:46:47.680 have an an unbeatable badass just mowing through people, right, 2023 01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:50.159 And so I was thinking about that while I was 2024 01:46:50.199 --> 01:46:53.239 watching The Mandalorian. You know, light people on fire and 2025 01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:54.880 then you know, do this, and I mean, you know 2026 01:46:54.920 --> 01:46:59.159 what I mean, because it's just it's it's like we 2027 01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:00.920 see that and then we see a version of that 2028 01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:03.640 fifteen minutes later, and then another version of that ten 2029 01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:08.000 minutes later, and you know, yeah, yeah, there there is 2030 01:47:08.079 --> 01:47:12.960 there's no pattern interruption, and that's that's a problem. 2031 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:16.720 Yeah, and we don't there's no mistakes. I keep saying it, 2032 01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:17.279 but you know. 2033 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:22.159 And we don't. His goal doesn't feel dire, that's right, 2034 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:26.279 you know. And what's what does he need? You know, 2035 01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:28.479 what does he want? Like, there's none of it. So 2036 01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:30.239 it's just an excer It's like a video game. I think, 2037 01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:32.319 like you said, you know, it's just going through the 2038 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:37.079 levels and mashing buttons and yeah, you know, I will say, 2039 01:47:37.359 --> 01:47:39.039 you know, it's funny. By the way, as you were talking, 2040 01:47:39.119 --> 01:47:39.880 it made me think. 2041 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:41.520 There's a moment. 2042 01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:43.159 I won't spoil exactly what it is because we haven't 2043 01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:44.640 gotten spoilers. I don't know that we need to. I've 2044 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:46.359 seen a lot of people joking online like I don't 2045 01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:47.239 know how to spoil this movie. 2046 01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:48.199 There are no spoilers. 2047 01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:54.079 But the Jeb character, there's a moment where he's in 2048 01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:58.239 a speeder. Yeah, with Mandalorian and. 2049 01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.720 Like and it's zeb goddamn it. But somewhere first letter, well, 2050 01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:02.079 there you. 2051 01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:09.920 Go, apologies, zeb Uh, And something's happening is kind of funny, 2052 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.159 right and uh like right, Grogu's in a vehicle ahead 2053 01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.800 of them and trying to help them, so anyway, but 2054 01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:18.760 but zeb is just kind of commenting on what's happening, 2055 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:22.119 and it made me realize he has as much depth 2056 01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:25.279 as a character and a theme park ride. Who's helping 2057 01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:31.479 you through the rock? What looks like you missed us? Hey, 2058 01:48:31.720 --> 01:48:33.800 I hope we can get We better get on that ship. 2059 01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:37.359 Like that's about as deep as that character is. 2060 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:41.600 Wow, that's hilarious. That's really funny. 2061 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:44.399 You know what else I did kind of appreciate on 2062 01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:48.880 just a you know, my new show of the movie. 2063 01:48:49.399 --> 01:48:52.880 Some of the vehicles, the way that they move. I 2064 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:55.800 don't know if they're actually stop motion, but they are 2065 01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:58.159 at least animated to look like they are stop motion. 2066 01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:01.399 There's a jitteriness to them, like a two nine looking 2067 01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:02.680 kind of thing. 2068 01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:03.800 That's interesting. 2069 01:49:03.840 --> 01:49:07.960 And I was like, that's cool. I gotta imagine that's Favreau. 2070 01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:09.520 You're talking about, Like the intro sequence. 2071 01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:13.000 Yeah, those like little chicken Walker things, and I feel 2072 01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:15.600 like there was a creature somewhere later also not the 2073 01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:17.560 ones in the arena, but some other creature that moved 2074 01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:19.439 a little jittery, like a stop motion thing, and I 2075 01:49:19.439 --> 01:49:19.800 was like. 2076 01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:21.199 I like it. 2077 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.680 It reminds me of the tactility from you know, the 2078 01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:25.199 earlier films. 2079 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:30.600 Yeah, you know, I think this movie sort of hints 2080 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:36.319 at more broadly what's going on in the galaxy post 2081 01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:41.560 return of the Jedi. And I think I would have liked, 2082 01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:45.560 you know, of the Mandalorian being used as an on 2083 01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:49.840 ramp into giving the audience a better sense of sort 2084 01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:52.520 of the lay of things totally. 2085 01:49:52.880 --> 01:49:57.640 That is a really fascinating moment, yeah, in this Star 2086 01:49:57.680 --> 01:50:01.000 Wars history, and I would like exactly to dig into that. 2087 01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:06.119 Yeah, because because I'm kind of like, well, there's this 2088 01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:10.039 thirty year window between Jedi and the Force Awakens, so 2089 01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:13.760 we know things are gonna head down a bad path again. 2090 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.359 And I'm and I'm I'm I'm not maybe this isn't 2091 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:19.680 the vehicle to do that, but I am like, you know, 2092 01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:24.439 we can sort of use this canvas as a way 2093 01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:28.039 to hint at some of the political strife or whatever 2094 01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:30.359 in a in a in a in a in a 2095 01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:32.760 more fleshed out sense, because what we see here isn't 2096 01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:34.560 all that different from what we've gotten in the show. 2097 01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:38.239 And maybe it's because the folks making it, making Star 2098 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:40.279 Wars right now don't really know how to get from 2099 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:41.359 Jedi to Force Awakens. 2100 01:50:41.399 --> 01:50:44.520 There's also that or hasn't been decided yet. Yeah, yeah, 2101 01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:46.000 they want to, they don't know. 2102 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:50.199 Yet, they don't know yet what what that roadmap is yep, yep, 2103 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:53.399 which I would say might have been something to figure 2104 01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:55.920 out eleven years ago or so. But that's just me. Well, 2105 01:50:55.960 --> 01:50:59.399 I'm just talking. That's just crazy talk for me. What 2106 01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:08.239 do I know. I'm just a guy on a microphone. Yeah, anyway, speak. 2107 01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:08.800 To me of Filony. 2108 01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:11.720 We see him in the movie he gets I'm gonna 2109 01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:13.159 say a couple of cameos. 2110 01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.359 I was gonna say. Okay, So first of all, I said, 2111 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.680 I like Dave Filoni. I think his creative instincts are 2112 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:19.760 good overall, and I'm excited to see what he does 2113 01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:23.199 with Star Wars. I would say in this movie, one 2114 01:51:23.239 --> 01:51:27.319 cameo would have been fine, not a deal breaker for 2115 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.560 me at all, right, big picture, but I am like 2116 01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:35.880 once is fine. Two seems indulgent to me, I don't disagree. 2117 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.079 I would say, either you wear the cowboy hat or 2118 01:51:39.079 --> 01:51:41.359 you wear the x Wing helmet. You can't do both. 2119 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:48.439 It's just kind of funny. I mean it obviously stands out. 2120 01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:54.000 A little bit. Yeah. Oh, and I didn't mind this 2121 01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:56.319 according to me, right, I thought she was fine, she. 2122 01:51:56.199 --> 01:51:58.479 Fits right in. I wish she had had more to do. 2123 01:51:58.800 --> 01:52:01.399 Yeah, I agree with that, and I gotta say I was. 2124 01:52:02.119 --> 01:52:05.079 I didn't mind seeing her as like a bureaucrat or 2125 01:52:05.119 --> 01:52:07.520 an x Wing pilot, which that just tells you. That 2126 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.520 tells you, Sigourney Weaver, that's just how she is. 2127 01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:11.800 Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. 2128 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:13.840 And when I saw that Jeremy Allen White was going 2129 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:15.840 to play a Hut, yes, I. 2130 01:52:15.800 --> 01:52:18.439 Was like, what is that like? And I should I 2131 01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:19.680 thought he did a really good job. 2132 01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:20.359 He was good. 2133 01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:22.880 I enjoyed him, kind of like tortured Jock. 2134 01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:27.640 Yeah, he brought surprising pathos to that performance. 2135 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:29.920 I yeah, I agree, I agree. 2136 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.960 So now is he speaking English or whatever you know, 2137 01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:37.439 the interlact whatever the language they speak in Star Wars, 2138 01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:42.199 or is he speaking Hut and we're just hearing English? 2139 01:52:42.359 --> 01:52:44.000 Or like why am I asking? 2140 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:44.520 No? 2141 01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:46.560 No, I mean We just talked about this, didn't we 2142 01:52:46.600 --> 01:52:49.479 about John McTiernan and how it's kind of funny that 2143 01:52:49.520 --> 01:52:52.439 he has multiple movies. Yeah, where they do that transition 2144 01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:56.920 from one language into English for English speaking audience. 2145 01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.680 Yeah. I sent you the clip from Thirteenth Warrior, right. 2146 01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:02.279 Yes, which is pretty cool. It's amazing because it's not 2147 01:53:02.359 --> 01:53:05.760 just like a quick transition. You're watching someone slowly learn 2148 01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:09.039 English over time and seeing the English words start to 2149 01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:11.520 trickle in amongst the language he doesn't understand, and it 2150 01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:12.800 was it's brilliant. 2151 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:13.479 Really well done. 2152 01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:15.680 Yeah, but in this one it does nothing like that, 2153 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.399 just to be no, no, Well, it's funny because you 2154 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:22.600 see the hut twins, yes, and they're speaking Hutties, that's right, 2155 01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:26.079 and then he one of them just starts speaking English, 2156 01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:27.479 and so that's what I thought. I was like, oh, 2157 01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:31.520 are they doing that McTiernan sort of transition, But then 2158 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:37.680 they I don't. I don't know, I don't know, unclear, unclear. 2159 01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:40.840 I mean, I don't care. 2160 01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:42.680 At the end of I saw some people upset about 2161 01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:44.079 it online. I was like, I, at the end of 2162 01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:45.319 the day, I guess I don't really care. 2163 01:53:45.399 --> 01:53:51.920 But well, yola wonga, Oh he says that in the movie, 2164 01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:56.920 I know made me happy, made me know that. Yeah. 2165 01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:58.960 All right, well hey there we go the Mandalorian and 2166 01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:00.279 grogu All right, well you. 2167 01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:02.920 Want to know something bringing a miss, swinging a miss, 2168 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:05.680 swinging a miss, And I'll give like a little Brian 2169 01:54:05.760 --> 01:54:10.720 personal anecdote here. I have to watch this movie three 2170 01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:11.760 times in one weekend. 2171 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:17.560 I asked you, I said before no, And I so 2172 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:19.319 I had already watched this because I spoke to you 2173 01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:22.279 on the phone and you were like, yeah, yeah, I'm 2174 01:54:22.279 --> 01:54:24.039 going in a little bit, and then I'm going tomorrow 2175 01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:25.760 with so and so. And I went on Sunday with 2176 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:28.079 so and so, and I was like, oh, so you 2177 01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:29.680 sure you want to see these three times? 2178 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:33.680 No, I and thank you, thank you. You've always looked 2179 01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:35.119 out for my personal wellbeing. 2180 01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:39.399 I wanted to just you know, our schedule has been 2181 01:54:39.520 --> 01:54:41.760 very difficult in the past couple of months, just with 2182 01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:45.359 work and life and whatever, and we're getting back to 2183 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:49.479 something a little bit more scheduled, and I was happy 2184 01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:49.880 about that. 2185 01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:51.800 And so I thought, oh, there's an opportunity to see 2186 01:54:51.800 --> 01:54:53.359 it this night. We can put this out in a 2187 01:54:53.399 --> 01:54:55.640 timely way so people can watch the movie this weekend 2188 01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:57.399 and listen to us right away, and I was excited 2189 01:54:57.399 --> 01:55:00.760 about that. And now there are two of people who 2190 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:02.680 I very much want to see this movie with, but 2191 01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:03.840 we couldn't all do it together. 2192 01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:05.560 And it has worked out that I'm going to be 2193 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:07.279 seeing this movie three times now. 2194 01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:07.960 And. 2195 01:55:09.920 --> 01:55:12.079 I am a little curious how it's going to play, 2196 01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:12.720 if I will. 2197 01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:15.319 Like modulating expectations going into. 2198 01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:18.159 Viewing two exactly that I'm looking forward to nothing as 2199 01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:19.880 tired tomorrow. 2200 01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:23.039 I think have my coffee beforehand. There's the takeaway. 2201 01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:25.600 Definitely, And I am wondering, yes, if I will get 2202 01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:27.319 on his wavelength a little more. I don't think it's 2203 01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.079 going to change how I feel about it's lack of 2204 01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:33.319 you know, emotions and stakes and all that sort of thing. 2205 01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:34.520 But maybe I can. 2206 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:37.159 Just enjoy it as a you know, two hours super 2207 01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:38.560 cut of a season of TV. 2208 01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:40.399 Yeah, so we'll see. 2209 01:55:40.439 --> 01:55:40.760 I don't know. 2210 01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:43.399 I'll check back, but I just I was like, oh, man, 2211 01:55:43.439 --> 01:55:44.359 I can't believe. 2212 01:55:46.640 --> 01:55:52.399 I got four more hours of this in my future. Well, hey, 2213 01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:55.680 in our next regular show, we'll be talking about a 2214 01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:56.760 master's in the universe. 2215 01:55:56.880 --> 01:55:59.039 So I am so excited and I don't want to 2216 01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:01.560 get my hopes up. It seems like early reactions are 2217 01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:04.079 pretty positive, so that makes me happy. 2218 01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:08.399 Uh yeah, I'm I'm I haven't even looked at what 2219 01:56:08.399 --> 01:56:11.520 people are saying, so at this point you. 2220 01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:13.720 Know, well then I don't want to spoil it. 2221 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:17.720 You don't wanna, you don't wanna tarnish my perceptions. 2222 01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:20.800 Yes, so I'm not. I was gonna say a little. 2223 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.199 I won't say anything. Well, we'll go in and we'll 2224 01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:23.920 have our opinions. 2225 01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:26.760 I'm hoping we have a good discussion if nothing else, definitely. 2226 01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:29.800 But hey, if you've seen the Mandalorian and Grogu, email 2227 01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:31.760 us your thoughts you can. You can send those to 2228 01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:34.239 us at Moviefilm Podcast at gmail dot com. You can 2229 01:56:34.279 --> 01:56:36.479 also hit like on our Facebook page Facebook dot com 2230 01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:39.800 slash movie Film Podcast and message us there. You can 2231 01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:44.279 also post your comments on YouTube and by the way, 2232 01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:46.000 if you're listening to the show on YouTube, please hit 2233 01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:48.279 like and hit subscribe. That stuff does matter and we 2234 01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:49.760 do read the comments on the show. We also have 2235 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:51.039 a Patreon page, Brian. 2236 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:53.279 Yes, if you head over to patreon dot com slash 2237 01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:56.880 Moviefilm podcast and hit subscribe for only five dollars a month, 2238 01:56:57.039 --> 01:57:00.720 you'll find every commentary we've ever done, every episode moving forward, 2239 01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:05.079 absolutely ad free. You also find bonus conversations that we 2240 01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:07.000 drop over there about twice a month, including the one 2241 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:09.079 we mentioned earlier where I mean, yeah, for like an 2242 01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:11.520 hour we were riffing on so many things, Masters of 2243 01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:15.319 the Universe, the movie Swordfish, popcorn buckets at movie theaters. 2244 01:57:15.359 --> 01:57:18.399 It was a really fun time and yeah, we think 2245 01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:21.760 everybody will enjoy those. Our free fee will always be available, 2246 01:57:21.800 --> 01:57:23.680 but this is our way of providing what we believe 2247 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:25.760 is the most satisfying way to enjoy the show, so 2248 01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:29.319 without any ads or interruptions, butting into the conversation. Plus, 2249 01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:31.359 your subscription goes a long way and helping to support 2250 01:57:31.520 --> 01:57:35.159 us and helping to sustain producing this show. So if 2251 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:37.199 you're interested in aabele, please head over to patreon dot 2252 01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:40.159 com slash Movie Film Podcast and subscribe. 2253 01:57:40.199 --> 01:57:42.920 We'd be very grateful. There we go, and if you're 2254 01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:44.479 looking for me on social media, you can find me 2255 01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:47.399 at Zaki's Corner. That's the Akis Corner. You can also 2256 01:57:47.439 --> 01:57:51.039 read my reviews at the San Francisco Chronicle and The Rap. 2257 01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:54.960 This week, Spider Noir is at the Chronicle. Jack Ryan 2258 01:57:55.039 --> 01:57:58.199 Ghost war is at the ramp and got some more 2259 01:57:58.239 --> 01:58:00.000 fun stuff coming up soon. What about you, Brian? 2260 01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:03.000 You can find episodes I've written of Puppy Dog Pals 2261 01:58:03.039 --> 01:58:05.760 and Young Jedi Adventures streaming on Disney Plus. 2262 01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:08.439 There we go, and with that on behalf of my 2263 01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:10.399 partner Brian Hall. My name is Zachie A Son. This 2264 01:58:10.439 --> 01:58:13.159 has been movie film three forty three. We'll catch next time. 2265 01:58:13.159 --> 01:58:16.760 Thanks everybody, welcome friends. 2266 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:24.680 Podcast Podcast Zaki again by Ahead the Bat