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Speaker 4: Flynn's toes in the sand, beer in hand seven days
after starting a new job. So must be nice, Must
be nice. I can't hide money, you cannot. And Flynn
does a great job of not being able to voice
you hear Mikey Matsuk joins us here, Gonna sit in
with us for a full hour.
Speaker 5: Man, very very excited for this.
Speaker 4: Can't wait to pick your brain on Omaha and what
it's like to be there for a couple of weeks,
what it's like before you play your first game, not
knowing if you're going to be there for a couple
of days or couple of weeks. So it's completely different
than like anything that I know, because when we played
for a championship, it was like, all right, you go
the SEC championship game. You win that, you find out
where you're at, You practice for three four weeks to
get ready for that one singular game, and then you
drive down the street to New Orleans and you go
play it.
Speaker 5: Omaha. It is completely different. I mean when you're.
Speaker 4: Leaving, when you left Baton Rouge, you didn't know if
you're going to be there for two games or if
you're going to be there for almost three weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we went in there as like it was a
business trip, so we went expecting to be there for
two weeks.
Speaker 3: Now they've shortened it now it's ten days.
Speaker 6: It used to be fourteen days, which I mean as
a player, if you go and you win every game
and you get some off days, it's all.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 6: We went two straight wins three days off, another win
three days off, So it was like, yeah, you know,
we got to experience the gambit of Omaha. We got
to enjoy the baseball side of it and enjoy the
off the field side of it.
Speaker 4: Did y'all like go watch other games or where y'all
just like kind of hanging out with each other.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hanging out with the boys, going out to restaurants
or family's there, You're going out to eat, you have
a lot of family time, you know. Obviously outside of
baseball on Ome, I was really nothing.
Speaker 4: You know, like I didn't want to like call out
Omahawk because I didn't really know, you know, just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the zoo.
Speaker 4: You got the zoo after San Diego. Apparently it's the
second best zoo in the country. I've been to the
San Diego Zoo party of times. I mean great, that
thing is gigantic. Yeah, that's great, But they have the
zoo and that's how many times can you go see
the penguins, you know, right, Like it's just you get
the gorilla and it's great, and that's all you got.
Speaker 3: But we had the zoo.
Speaker 6: I was eighteen, so you couldn't go to the casino.
You know, they have a casino right over there, I
think in Iowa.
Speaker 4: Once you go oh yeah, but yeah, so we got
to experience that part of it and which was awesome.
Speaker 3: Uh but we had a really.
Speaker 4: Like close knit team and so, uh, you know, we
had a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It was it was great. But going in there, you know,
you expect to be there for two weeks.
Speaker 4: But you could go to and Q and be home,
what was what was the the kind of field, the expectation,
and just from a player's view, not like from the outside,
not from coachman area, but like from a player's view, Like,
how did y'all feel going into the tournament?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we I was fortunate I was a freshman, right, So,
like as a freshman usually you're just trying to find
your way at that point in the season. You know,
you're kind of not a freshman anymore, but you're still
a freshman, right, But I was lucky that we had
a bunch of veteran guys on the Yeah. I mean
we had fifth year seniors, four year seniors, juniors, sophomores
that played us freshmen. So like we had a really
good mix of guys. And so you know, going in,
they had already gone to Omaha last year the year before,
they had that twenty three game winning streak, and so
coming in they really made it know like, hey, listen,
we're not going there like have a great time and
you know, yeh get home.
Speaker 3: We can going to the zoo twice, right, We're there.
Speaker 4: We're there to win, We're trying to go We're trying
to have a parade at home.
Speaker 3: And that whole deal.
Speaker 6: So they kind of set the tone pretty early, and uh,
you know, we got there and and everybody embraced it,
and that's kind of how we approached it. And so
we knew we knew how good we were, honestly, I
mean we were. Basically we started the season at one,
we ended at one. There's a couple of times throughout
the course of the year we ended up maybe slipping
the three or four.
Speaker 3: But we knew how good we were and we knew
we were gonna win it.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I have to imagine is
just a great feeling is when you play for LSU,
you go to Omaha, you know, no matter what, nobody
is going to have more fans than you have there.
Speaker 5: I guess it's pretty wild. Like it's not close.
Speaker 4: No, it's not like it's right down the street, but
no matter who you play, and look, Arkansas was gonna
have people there this time. But no matter what, you're
going to have the most fans there in this neutral site, venue.
Speaker 3: One one million.
Speaker 6: Look the businesses in Omaha and the Omaha residents.
Speaker 3: They were, they were more excited than probably the LSU fans.
Speaker 4: L She made it back for sure, because you know
they always show up rockets made budget. As soon as
Chase Shore's struck out the third guy's.
Speaker 6: Are they gonna get the Hunter? I mean, i'd imagine
there's something crazy like that. I hate jellow shots, but
I was part of that twenty twenty three part. You
just kind of have to wear it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they were pumped right Obviously LSU brings a
lot of fans, and it's you know, going in there.
I'll tell you what, my first when we got there,
you have this your first like open practice. So you're
going to and you have a practice and you're kind
of out there and it's open to the crowd, right,
and so you have everybody in there. So you're taking
VP with twenty thousand people in the stands, and so
you're like, now you're trying to.
Speaker 3: Hit the ball over the school.
Speaker 4: But I say, is that like one of those like
when you go to a cheer charity golf tournament and
like there's people like lined up as you drive. It's
a little bit like that feeling you're you're not working
on anything in bagging practice. You're trying to hit the
ball as far as you.
Speaker 6: Can and it was I mean, I'd never been nervous
hitting BP before and that was the first time.
Speaker 3: And then Chad Jones obviously on that team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Chad was pitching at the point at that point,
it wasn't really playing in.
Speaker 3: The outfield, but he was still hitting VP. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Right, he got a standing ovation from the twenty thousand
fans in there.
Speaker 3: That's how far as it was. It was fun. That's
that's part of it.
Speaker 6: And fans are there and they're supporting it, and that
really makes it. That makes it a lot more special
for us. You to make it, Yeah, I mean everything
surrounding it. And I love the fact and we were
talking about this with Jay yesterday. I do love the
fact that it is like.
Speaker 4: This one singular location of Mikey, Like when when you're
playing in February March, like you're thinking in the back
of your mind, omaha, omaha, omaha, Like that's what you're doing.
And I kind of when I'm in high school, right
and we're playing for state championships, We're breaking it down
on Dome super right, one, two, three, Dome right, and
y'all can do that in baseball. Softball has that in
Oklahoma City and I love that because, like, you have
this goal and then once you get there. And I
saw some videos of LSU walking around, the guys that
have never been there, you could tell like they had
visioned that moment walking into that stadium looking around, because well,
that's what you think about.
Speaker 6: It's it's a very it's unique. That's the only sport
in college that, yeah, softball that you're trying to think.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything else because football, basketball, obviously
those rotate like other championship.
Speaker 6: Gymnastics has uh, I think in Dallas, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I mean Frisco suburbs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just but but baseball it's unique in the
sense that you know that's where you're going to be.
Speaker 3: Like this, there's a destination. This is the destination. You know.
LSU baseball fans are.
Speaker 5: Making stadiums built for that for that.
Speaker 3: Literally, Omaha, the whole city is revolves around that.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know.
Speaker 4: The minor league team doesn't play there. No, I thought,
Omahall Storm Chasers played there, Like no, they play at
the nine thousand seat stadium, the one that's not as nice. Yeah,
I had no idea. Yeah, this is built for the
College Series.
Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6: And so it's it's unique and it's fun, and it's
something that you know when you're going through the fall
and you're doing all your conditioning and you I mean,
we have the Omahall challenge, right Like our last conditioning
test in baseball was always called the Omahall Challenge because
it's you know, hey, you got to push your the
to get to get to the mall. So yeah, it's
it's unique and it's fun. I'm very jealous of these guys.
But I'm very excited these guys because that was one
of the coolest two weeks.
Speaker 3: Of my life.
Speaker 4: So you mentioned in twenty three you added to the
jell O shot total.
Speaker 5: Are you trying to go back this year?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna wait? See that place out.
Speaker 6: So I would know I would love to be there
this weekend. Can't go this weekend. Families coming to my
house for Follows Day weekend. So we're all, oh, yeah,
that's the thing this week. Yes, that's happening.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: So Happy Follows Dad, all those all the followers out there, Uh,
so they're coming to our house.
Speaker 6: I'm obviously not leaving. I have an insurance conference. This
is a wild part of my life now.
Speaker 4: So I have to go an insurance conference on Sunday
till Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Uh, where's okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And then after that, if they make it to the finals,
I'm going all.
Speaker 4: Right, we might need to all kind of get together
because if they go to the finals.
Speaker 5: Flint said he was in, You're in.
Speaker 3: I'm in. Make Fuinn get the PJ for us, if.
Speaker 4: Anybody can get it done. Flynn know what he forgets
is those contracts he signed or public record.
Speaker 3: Uh huh from it. I'll give it. I'll give Flint credit. Though.
Speaker 6: He is great at when somebody randomly on Twitter is
somebody randomly is like gonna bring up, oh he's signed
this big deal. He is awesome at his responses. Yes,
I mean he embraces that. I love that, and look,
you know what he earned.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: It's hard to get it.
Speaker 4: Is it. Yeah, it's very When you get your opportunity
out there, children, you need to make the most up
said opportunity, because that's what my boy did one movie.
He went out there and through for five hundred yards.
Speaker 3: Sometimes only takes one. That's right, that's it.
Speaker 4: Let me borrow something, Yeah, let me hold on, let
me borrow a little bit there. All right, So when
we come back eventually, obviously we're gonna break down l
shot in Arkansas, but I kind of want to get
your thoughts on just the entire field of coastal in Arizona,
Oregon state. You know, bracket one, bracket two, we'll cover
it all. We'll do it right here on OTB. I
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Speaker 1: Shot Locked in on l s U Football twenty four
to seven. You're listening to Off the Bench, one.
Speaker 3: That goes straight to them all into the inside.
Speaker 5: Jordan, No panic, man, we see it. Yeah, you can
let the music breathe a little bit. This is a
radio station, right. I was like, we heard you telling
a great story.
Speaker 3: We're talking about Chris Jackson.
Speaker 4: Jackson former football teammate of mine and you know him playing.
Speaker 5: Both sports in the same day.
Speaker 4: I was actually talking about me and j Mitch was
talking about what he used to have to do as well.
But I used to always laugh because Chris Jackson was
our kicker slash punter. He actually did both and you know,
less like he was he was kind of weird about
punters kickers, like he.
Speaker 5: Like that was his baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why y all made him wear the same numbers.
Like he was hands on with those guys. So he
wouldn't let Chris go like truly get ready for a
baseball game, right, and he like he had to do
his football stuff. And I kind of get it because
he was on football scholarship, and so he's like, look, no,
you gotta do what you gotta do here, then we'll
let So Chris would literally be like throwing his helmet
and shoulder pads and pants off, and he'd leave a
trail behind him as he ran across the street to
the old box, Yeah, to get ready for our first pitch.
And like half the time, Mikey, he wouldn't even get
like warm ups in, Like he would go straight to
the uniform, straight to third base or straight to the
batter's box.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that look he knowing him, that is like,
you know, he's the one guy that I could do that, Like, hey,
I don't need to get one of them good, let
me just go and get loose a little bit. And
then who's this guy always the number one picking the draft?
Luke coach Ever, I know problem three hits off of him.
It's just you know, it was just funny stories. I
never got to play with him. We've become friends after.
But you know, my brother in law, Mike Hollander was
on the team with him, and so they tell stories
all the time.
Speaker 4: Oh Man, that was a core memory minds watching him
run across and like undress as he goes over there.
And then of course a teammate of ours, j Mitch
as we mentioned he did at Chad Jones did it
as well. Man, that was that was a It was
a great time, but it was like a weird time
in LSU like baseball, like when I was playing football
still because we were talking about LSU like was making
it to the World Series some of those years. But
it was like people were still mad because the standard
was to go win the national championship.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 5: It wasn't enough.
Speaker 3: That's coming after the nineties, like that's where you have.
Speaker 6: And then really two thousand, so like they won one
in two thousand and then like two thousand and one,
I believe they got.
Speaker 3: To those supers. I think they lost to tu Lane
maybe in the supers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, was that Michael Aubrey and j like that whole career.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so they make it they don't make it there,
and then they go in two thousand and three until
two and three thousand, four thousand and five when Smoke's
there and it's like they don't win.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know, we're used to getting there
and one, but you know, it's part of it. I
think in O three they were SEC champs. Yeah, they're
good No. Three.
Speaker 5: So they just didn't do it in Omahall.
Speaker 4: But seriously, like I remember being in school and growing
up an LGU baseball fan and like knowing what the
standard was, but still like they would get to Omahall
and they wouldn't make noise there and people were like,
baseball programs down. Yeah, you got to burn it all down.
It's it's just bad. Can't do anything right now. Like
so like that's one thing during my time at LSU
that I wish would have been a little bit different,
was just the feeling around the baseball program.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's when it's like when you're like when you're
rolling like this, it's uh, I mean that's I mean,
it goes.
Speaker 4: It's a shame, but it's football and baseball. You know,
hopefully basketball can get back, get back, right, But yeah,
when it's when it's when it's right, it's right. Yep, uh,
no question about that. All right, let's look at the
field in Omahall right, now, we talked about it a
little bit earlier, Mikey. So leading us off today, you've
got Coastal Carolina and Arizona. Coastal Carolina hasn't lost a
baseball game in almost two months, so they have like
the ultimate confidence. And we were talking about once you
win one like they did in sixteen. These players obviously
weren't there, but there's something that they can take from that. Yeah,
because they're a mid major. Some belt's really good baseball conference,
but they're a mid major. But they can say, hey,
we've done this before, even though they weren't even closely
related to who did it.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 6: And look the staff, I mean Schnall, their head coach
was there in sixteen. He was the associated head coach.
He's a Coastal Carolina lifer, right, you know. He was
an All American there as a Conference Player of the
Year ninety nine. He was an assistant coach for a
while once at UCF for a few years and then
came back associated head coach.
Speaker 3: I mean, history is awesome.
Speaker 6: About his son and all that kind of stuff, and
then whenever they're legendary coach retired. He took over this
his first year and he's back in Omaha, right, so he.
Speaker 3: Understands what their standard is.
Speaker 6: He understands and look, I personally think they're gonna be
in the championship game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're they're pitching staff.
Speaker 6: If you haven't looked at it, if if people listening
haven't looked at it, I think they have eleven guys
with a four y r A or lower.
Speaker 3: And I want to say they got eight guys with
a three or lower.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, they are, and that in that ballpark is
not easy to pitch.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 6: It's a it's a hitter's park out there in Myrtle Beach.
And so I really like their pitching staff.
Speaker 3: You know, they have enough guys.
Speaker 6: They're gonna be scrappy offensively, but pitching, I mean, pitching
in defense is really what's gonna win you those games,
especially in in Omaha with how big the stadium is
and the ball is not gonna car it's not really
an offensive stadium.
Speaker 4: So wind blowing in always because they wanted to view
exactly exactly exactly right.
Speaker 3: It it's they flipped it.
Speaker 4: So it's always it's just it's it's beneficial.
Speaker 3: To the pitchers, and so I really do like them.
Speaker 5: I can't wait for it.
Speaker 4: Like if it is Coastal in Oregon State, that's gonna
be a heavyweight title belt, Like, I can't wait for
that one. But going back to Coastal, they just went
to a place and swept Auburn where LSU got swept up,
Alburnon doesn't lose it. Auburn was as hot as anybody
in the country, yep, and Coastal punched them right in
the mouth, no doubt. Like there was nothing Sam Dunton
could have done in that first game. He was trying
every pitch imaginable. He was taking as much time as
he possibly could between pitches to try to figure it out.
Speaker 3: And they were just teeing off on him and that,
and that's different than what they did really all year. Yeah,
because they.
Speaker 6: Won on the pitch with the with the with the
guys in the mountain. Now they won with guys in
the play. So yeah, they they're hot, they're not losing games.
They're in Omaha coaches not shy. He's been there before.
So I really like them Arizona. Obviously they've been good.
Speaker 4: I mean they got beat by sixteen in Chapel Hill
and came back.
Speaker 3: I thought they were Oh my god, if.
Speaker 4: I lose by two touchdowns in baseball, I don't think
I'm winning the next two games, No.
Speaker 3: Doubt they are. I thought they were smoked.
Speaker 6: They came back and they won that which in Chapel
Hill obviously against a really good team. I mean that's
a team that had the third best odds to win
it all right, right, you know, and so I like them,
but I just they're gonna face Coastal.
Speaker 3: I like Coast than that.
Speaker 6: Oregon State is kind of a weird one for me.
You know, they're an independent team in baseball.
Speaker 5: Like played mostly on the road all season long, which
is why.
Speaker 3: They got a national seat in my opinion, because they
got the r P.
Speaker 4: I RPI is fourth, I think, yeah right now in
the country, and I think you get benefits from being
on the road and so there. I don't know much
about them as far as like I know, there's their
middle and fielders. Short stop I believe is yeah, he's
up there being like a top five pick in the
conversation to maybe be the overall all next year, right, Yeah, yeah,
though I think it's going to be. Yeah, it's tough
position player like that to go.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's number one overall. Yeah. Look, speaking of
Anderson has been I know Max, I have him at
one overall right now, and that's how about that? Though? Yeah,
I mean I love them.
Speaker 5: Draft eligible sophomore so unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little younger, he told me. He told me
early in the year.
Speaker 4: He's like, man, I love he loves l G from
Saint Paul's from Covington.
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I want to come back.
Speaker 4: I said, brother, I know, I want you to come
back too, But if you get drafted in the top
fifteen picksah much less top ten, you cannot come back.
That's so funny you say that because it's such a
hard conversation, because look, you and I both love LSU,
right right, and we want the best thing for LSU.
But we're also former players, correct. I remember having that conversation.
I got a phone call one day in twenty eighteen
and it was Devin White, and Devin's like, man, like,
I really want to come back. I really do. Like
I think we're going to be really good next year.
I think Joe's going to be great, and you know
they did. They were great, maybe the best ever. Right,
he was right about that. I was like, Devin, like
I get that, man, But like you do, have to
take a look at you're projected to be a top
five pick at linebacker, right, it just doesn't ever happen, right, Right,
as much as you want to come as much as
I want you to come back, it's very tough to
say no to top five pick at your position and right
now the year you just had, Yeah, you got to
be smart about it.
Speaker 6: I mean, and look, football is different is like I
mean one hit, yeah, you know, and baseball obviously on
the mound you can blow out whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's when you get opportunity to have that money, can't.
Speaker 6: I love that you love LSU and I love that's
when I come back, all right, But you got you
gotta go. And look, he's a guy that you're gonna
look up in two years and he'll probably be in
the big leagues.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's ready now.
Speaker 4: I think he's a starter too, oh, no doubt, because
like Liam Doua, I think from Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I think he's a reliever I believe he's a closer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna come in.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be back into the bullpen guy. But I
think Kate's like, I think that the value there is
he's gonna be able to start games for you, yep.
Speaker 6: And I made this comparison to me and Jay Mitch
are talking about it on Miked Up, and now I
was like, look, not only does he have four pitches
that he can throw for strikes, and he's a strike thrower, right,
He's not a guy that needs to throw the ball
out of the zone to get chases for strikeouts. He
gets swings and misses in the zone yep, which is
pretty special. Like you don't have a lot of ton
of guys that can blow you away with fastballs and
then throw breaking balls over the plate and get swings
and misses.
Speaker 3: And so he's got that.
Speaker 6: And I think he he's got more vlo in the
tank as he as he matures and gets bigger.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're gonna a little bit of
take up this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think he's touched seven maybe once or twice. But
I think that you're gonna look up in a couple
of years and he's gonna be sitting in ninety five, ninety.
Speaker 3: Six, yeah, and touching ninety eight. Right.
Speaker 6: I mean he's got clean release. I mean he's he's special.
He's special.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And l she's got two of those, two of them.
They got two of those guys that they can roll
out there.
Speaker 4: It's what we talked about right before you hopped on,
Like you don't ever want to lose Novahall Like that's
the obvious statement. But if something does happen, nobody else
can feel as confident.
Speaker 5: As you do on the mound in the loser's bracket, correct.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, Ianstin's draft stock has done this. Yeah,
I mean it's sword.
Speaker 4: I can't So I've been to UC San Diego where
he played. It looks like, you know, it's like the
size of barbs, right, you know what I mean, which
is high schoolreat that and so to go from that
to go to pitching in the SEC every single weekend
and do what he's doing is incredible.
Speaker 3: No, he's and he I've gotten to talk to him,
and he is.
Speaker 6: He's a football player. Yeah, I mean he that was
his favorite sport grown up. I mean he he loved
you know.
Speaker 3: Knocking heads and doing everything, and you could tell by
this physical better.
Speaker 6: Now, this guy's legs are the size of my I
don't even know, like two of my legs, Like they're
they're enormous, right, And like he's he's in great shape,
and he's a dog on the mountd And like you
can tell when nothing really phases him and he goes
out in the attacks and he shows emotion, and you
he has better numbers. He's been snubbed all year, all year,
as far as all the he should have been a
first team All American.
Speaker 3: He should have been. Yeah, Like he has better numbers.
He has better numbers than outside of strikeouts, better numbers
than Kate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's right on the heels of Kate.
Speaker 4: Shakeout total right, top three in the name, three in
the nation in strikeouts. The e r A he had
in league play, Yeah, three better than it was overall.
And he's not a first team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't I don't understand that. But like you
got him going game two in Omaha. That's that's huge.
I know we kind of got off of that. I
know we're talking about Omaha and all the on the brackets, but.
Speaker 4: Hey, look we see a lot of squirrels here on
this show. As soon as we see one run by,
we talk about the squirrel that ran. We're all athletes,
we're all add athletes, you know it just dump around
out when you got him man and as the number
two guy, and you have him being able to go
out there and say, you know, hey, no matter what
happens on game one, I got another ace in game two.
Speaker 3: That's a huge thing.
Speaker 6: You know, the best one two punch in the country.
And then you know what, if Chase Shorts can keep
doing what he did. I mean, that was the best
I've seen him look since maybe ever. And uh, I
actually would agree with that. Yeah, I mean he looked
good as freshman year early on, but like that was
a different level.
Speaker 4: And I do want to get to Chase Shorts because
I think he's going to be highly important, Like like
that might be the guy that ends up being the
guy if you go ahead and win a national championship
or play for one. But look, and I know off
Day's rest and I know like how they for man
super regionals, But like Anthony Iinton actually had the better
outing against Arkansas. Kate had a great outing, shrunk out ten,
but he gave up three runs, Anthony Ironson goes six,
gives up five hits, goose egg on the scoreboard, only
walks one.
Speaker 5: It strikes out eleven yep.
Speaker 4: And like Jay has started Anthony Ironson into game one
in the postseason before, So I don't think anything's going
to go into that. I think it's going to be
Kate Anderson almost certain it is.
Speaker 5: But the fact that you even have options for incredible.
Speaker 6: The fact that there's a conversation There's definitely been a conversation.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes with Jay and the staff like, Hey,
what do you want to do?
Speaker 6: And I ultimately do think it's going to be cade
first route, which is gonna be awesome. You can't go
wrong if you decide to go Now, the funny thing
is is, you know LSU fans and I love they're
the best.
Speaker 3: You know, they get a little.
Speaker 6: Emotional and you know sometimes sometimes and so there's been
a lot of conversation, Oh, you win game one, do
you save ainstin.
Speaker 3: I'm like, she's zero negative percent.
Speaker 6: Actually, Like if there's if there's one thing that you
don't do is that you win the first two games
and then you set yourself up for having potentially most
often set them up for the next weekend if you
continue to win. But yeah, they're in a good spot
with those two guys, and then offensively they finally start
to click again.
Speaker 4: I guess the thing like if if we're talking about
your winning and you get to game three, the thing
that is unique about LSU is the guy who might
start game three if he doesn't have to pitch, might
have to pitch in game one or game two, right,
because it might be Case and Evans Zach Cowen started
obviously in postseason play. I think we assume it would
be Evans, but it could be either one of those guys.
But LSU and Jay they're going after victories. They're not
saving anybody. So it's like, we'll figure out game three
whenever we get there. Most people have kind of who
their Game three guy would be. But LSU might throw
those guys in game one or two if they need
to go throw and close out a game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, and I I'm on board with that, Like
that's what they need to do. You win the first
you win game that you're playing now, yeah, and you
figure out the next game in the next game, and
you know, if they have to use Case and Evans
in those first two games to win it.
Speaker 3: So be it.
Speaker 6: You have other guys that you can piggyback and figure out,
you know, if you don't use that count. I still
have a lot of faith in him. I think he's
he's still good. I think he's you know, he's going
through a couple of bumps here and there. But you know,
if you go and you throw strikes, in my opinion,
in this stadium, I think that's the most important thing.
If you don't get guys on base, walk them, hit them,
do thet and make them earn it, I think that
you're gonna you're gonna come out on top more times
than not because of the stadium and the way it
plays and those types of things.
Speaker 3: And so I like that. I like root going in
a few innings.
Speaker 6: You know, I think you have enough guys to get
through that that game three.
Speaker 4: All right, when we come back, I do want to
talk about lineup, uh huh, all right, because you're facing
the lefty. Last time you face the lefty, it looked
a little bit different.
Speaker 3: A lot of talk about it, did.
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly, I think all of us were surprised
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: No Matt Flynn here all right, I'm talking in baseball.
Mikey Matus here with us. So we're trying to debate
if Flynn's gonna pull the old T Bob move. Where
T Bob if he went on vacation on Sunday night
about eight thirty or nine, he'd be like, oh my god, guys,
I can't believe this happened. I booked flights for the
wrong day and I'm not giving you back till Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Taylor, how many times did that happen?
Speaker 4: For?
Speaker 7: How many times on vacation? I was telling you, I'm surprised,
but it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: Oh but you know what's funny though, like he always
pretended like y'all didn't know what was going on. Yeah,
what's funny is I think like he truly thinks he
got one over on us every time. Really, like, damn,
these guys are idiots. The falling for this ship, I'm sorry,
are good I think he really thought that though. Yeah,
I mean it seems like it if he keeps going
back to the well, I think that's obviously God.
Speaker 5: Blessing, God bless him.
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Speaker 5: So he's gonna crush it.
Speaker 3: He's a WWE character, he is. That's what I like
to like.
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He's gonna have great mic skills, gonna captivate the entire
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t bop stuff at barstool going on right now. All right,
So we were talking about line up because last time
you face a left the Super regional play, the lineup
looked a little bit different. Now when you face Zach
Root in the regular season, it's kind of what you expect.
Uriel's there at the top, and it was Barry Jones
Dickinson was third. I think Ethan Fry I believe, hit
clean up that game, and then Josh Pearson actually hit
fifth that game. And then Josh Pearson leads off against
the left e in the Super Regional. Do you think
they roll out the same lineup this time against the
left e because it certainly worked there in the Super
Regional he scored sixteen runs.
Speaker 6: Looking at work and you know, I want to say, well,
you know, carry All hit the throw run Homer off
the left e, when he's like, yeah, well Pearson also
had the grand slam off the left he So like,
you know, I do believe that they're both gonna like
Pearson's going to be in the lineup right one, you know,
and Jake Brown is going to be is a star.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a star here.
Speaker 6: And I am the biggest Jake Brown fan out there,
and I think Jake understands what.
Speaker 3: The role is right now.
Speaker 4: It's like, so in soccer we call that like a
super sub, a guy that is like a baller. But
like for this matchup, this this game, like bringing that
guy on, you know, in the sixty fifth minute because
he is going to just reak havoc for the final however,
long in the game, having that guy on your bench,
sitting there as soon as they go right handed pitcher,
you're all right, he's in.
Speaker 3: Right and so he's that's why he's got starter at bats.
Speaker 6: He has you know, he hasn't started every game, but
he's been basically he's in every game, and so I
do think Pearson's gonna start. I would not be shocked
if they did the if they had him leading off,
your guy Ben in omahall won a national championship, Like
what better guy to have as your leadoff guy in
the first game and then have carry O kind of like,
you know, do his thing out. I'll carry lead off
the other games on there's right, So I do think
it'll be that way.
Speaker 3: I love Fry.
Speaker 6: And Jared Jones back to back, you know, because it
was like for each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, you know, beginning of the year, you didn't
know who was.
Speaker 6: Gonna protect Jared. Yeah, you know, because you didn't really
have another big bopper. Fry has obviously emerged as that guy.
So you have, you know, those two guys protecting each other,
and then you got you know, playoff.
Speaker 3: Milam Is is the best model.
Speaker 6: You know, like he's hot and so like he's gonna
be right there in the middle. You get to switch
at her component. The one thing Jay and he's been
obviously he's been very vocal about this is he loves
lineup flexibility and versatility, and he likes the left right matchups.
He likes having you know, not having a guy come
in and be able to face three straight lefties in
a row. And so you know he's gonna do whatever
he thinks makes the lineup as deep as it can
be in as versatile as it can be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's not afraid to make a change.
Speaker 4: No, I mean he is not afraid to whatever, you know,
whatever the analytics say and whatever him and the coaching
staff see on film, like he is going, Like when
they ran that out there in super regionals, it's like, man, yeah,
Curio has been the guy.
Speaker 5: He's a freshman All American.
Speaker 4: But he had you know, Piers an instagram something like
you said, and Kia hits a three to one homer there,
so like it obviously worked. But like even like the
small changes that he made in regional play in game
number seven against the Little Rock, if Ethan Fry is
not there in the two hole els she's not playing
right now, correct. I mean every big moment he came
through in that game, and it was because he got
moved up in the lineup and the game before, every
big moment that happened, nobody came to nobody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so was I. I was like, damn, I came
to this game and they didn't go to Monday night game.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I was. I was so worn
out Monday. I was like, and of course I missed out.
Speaker 3: One, but he had. They had opportunities the game before,
and nobody came through.
Speaker 6: They put him too whole. He comes through obviously double.
I think you get the homer two doubles, like its
four six. Yeah, and so you know he won that game.
And you know Jay's not shy. And the one thing
that Jay, you know, I can I can say that
he does is like there's nothing There's a lot of
coaches out there that will like coach on a motion right,
like they see guy have good BP or like have
some stuff and has just gut feeling, I'm gonna throw
him in there based off of just a gut Jay really,
every every decision he makes is well thought out it's
you know, planned, there's a reason behind it. You know,
he's not gonna go to the podium after the game
and you ask him a question, He's like, I just
I had a good feeling about it. You know, there's
an explanation. So you know, I trust him what he's
trying to do. And I think all the guys trusting
that too, And that's a that's a that's a good
thing to have.
Speaker 4: He's the closest thing to a football coach that I've
ever seen in baseball as far as the prep that
he does. And every time I talk with him or
every time I go over for whatever reason, like he
comes out of the film room, Yeah, like we brought
our youth baseball team over there a couple of weeks ago,
and it was before I guess a couple months ago.
Is that before the Alabama series, And like he's just
in there, he's grinding tape. It was like a Wednesday,
and so he comes out and talks to the team,
which he didn't have to do, but he's like, yeah,
I'm come talk to the team. So he talks to
our little youth baseball team, shout out to the Lugnuts,
and then he and then he like we sit there
and we're talking for like fifteen twenty minutes and he's
just going through like Alabama's lineup and Alabama's staff and
all the things that he had picked up on. And
then like we finished a conversation and it was late,
like it was it was like eight o'clock at night,
and I'm like, oh, he's about to head to the house,
and he goes right back into the film and I
was like, coach. In my mind, I'm like, you just
told me every little nugget about every person on their team?
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 5: What else?
Speaker 3: It like?
Speaker 6: But right back he look, there's there's been I mean
there's been there's been situations while I watch him make
a decision or and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Ah, like I don't know, you know, like why would
you do that or this or that?
Speaker 6: And then I'll get him on the show and I'll
ask him, yeah, and he gives the explanation.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: I can't understand, Like I take back what I said,
like that, that seems like that's the right move.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, everything's well thought out of. He's
just kind of a professor in that situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, like I told this story a thousand times on air,
and our listeners are like, yeah, we know, we know,
but I don't know if you've ever heard this one.
So during the lockout and twenty eleven, I guess that
would have been in the NFL, we couldn't go to
the facility, right, so we had to go work out
at USD University of San Diego, and there was this
baseball coach that was in the weight room grinding these
all the time, like and going over like little bit
different mechanics and going over I'm like, this is summertime,
Like baseball is not even closely, Like what are we doing? Man?
He's just going over everything and like everything was covered,
and I like, I went and introduced myself to him, like, hey, like,
what's your name, Like I don't know who you are,
but I liked it. I like your process. And it
was Jay J. Johnson's an assistant at the University of
San Diego, and so like for me, I was like,
I'm gonna remember that guy's name. And so obviously, like
from that point, I followed his career like Nevada and
then he goes to Arizona or whatever, and I like
that me watching him work when I didn't know who
he was, but I was like, this guy is going
to be special.
Speaker 5: And then he goes to Arizona. I'm like, I'm bragging everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I told you all that.
Speaker 4: And then when our job comes open, and I was like,
you know, he's a West Coast lifer, Like you know
how that works in the SEC, they're not even gonna
call Jay. But I remember, like I was talking with
Scott and I'm like, hey, I don't know, I don't
know what you're talking about, but hey, here's this guy.
Speaker 5: Here's this guy.
Speaker 4: And of course Scott already knew who it was, but
like I was pushing heavy because I was like, man,
I just I've seen this guy work in the shadows.
I've seen his process, and again I didn't think it
would happen because a lot of times like if you're
a West Coast guy, you're staying on the West Coast.
But the fact that they went and got him, man,
I knew that this was going to be possible just
from seeing him as an assistant.
Speaker 3: See, I didn't I didn't know anything about it. I
don't know who he was.
Speaker 6: I never knew the name, and so when they when
they all still playing, when they when they brought him in,
it was my last year, and I was like, who
the hell is this like? And so then I texted
all my buddies that that one that I knew that
once Arizona and they're like, man, this guy's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're gonna love him. I'm like, awesome until
he's been you know, obviously lights out. Uh again, I
know I've said this, but he is. He has got
Nick Saban. Yeah, in a baseball.
Speaker 3: Uniform, the obsession of it.
Speaker 5: He really does.
Speaker 4: And coach Saban always got like a bad rap for
like yelling at players, or if you did things the
right way with coach Saban, if you were on time,
if you you know, were working when you're supposed to
be working, if.
Speaker 5: All your he was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was like you never got one of those mfn's
that you saw and the guy getting it probably deserves it. Yeah,
miss you can miss me with all the Oh he's
too hard, Like no, I I mean I grew up
playing football.
Speaker 3: I like to be coached hard, like don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to add a boy, don't give me
a powder back because I know when I do something
wrong and like get on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like me too. Yeah. And so when people
say that, it's like, y'all, just I don't want to
call you soft but yourself.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know yep.
Speaker 4: So I always said that about Jay and glad he
is leading LSU there in Omaha. All right, we do
have one more segment with Mikey and can't thank him
enough for his time. Let's get some predictions. Let's get
some predictions for Omaha. We'll get those with Mikey Matuk
when we come back here to close out hour number
two of OTB.
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Speaker 5: Coastal Carolina, Arizona.
Speaker 3: I like Coastal.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go Coastal as well. Jordan, Look, you
do Hunt show. You got to have a take here.
Speaker 3: Coastal. Okay, just because he said.
Speaker 7: The Shanta clears.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Oregon State, Louisville.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Beavers.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Beavers, battle tested.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm going I'm going with the
Beavers too. You know, apparently Lousville's got a guy who.
Speaker 3: There's a wedding.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, what he's supposed you're not talking about the
picture they got That might be a first round of
guy I got.
Speaker 6: Too, But they got a guy who's supposed to be
getting married on the off day of the championship, like
the Monday or something.
Speaker 4: So he said, if they make it there. He's gonna
fly home, get married. Oh my guy, Yeah, tough, my.
Speaker 3: Brother, Just what expecting my guy?
Speaker 5: That tells your teammates you had no faith.
Speaker 3: I'm taking Oregon State because of that.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, me to double down on the Oregon State. Now,
you can't have that mindset, Jordan.
Speaker 2: I'm not Look, I don't want to be chalky, but
just because I'm an Ali Rutchman fan, Oregon State.
Speaker 6: There you go. Allan starts swinging a little bit.
Speaker 3: He does, but I like to swing. Like talk about
fall from grace.
Speaker 4: I thought they were going to be there like five
years is already fired.
Speaker 7: Was battle like when everybody picks the same team. You
know what, forget everything we said earlier in the show, Jake, I'll.
Speaker 3: Go Louis there all right?
Speaker 5: Uh U c l A Murray State.
Speaker 3: This is tough. I like the.
Speaker 2: Bruins in this way, all right, Orton shout out John
Morant Murray State.
Speaker 4: Okay, Matt McMahon, great Christ great, great story.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable for these guys.
Speaker 6: They can swing eight hundred fans in their state stadium whatever,
like great.
Speaker 3: I think it comes to an end. U c l
A wins. UCLA has got.
Speaker 6: A good I mean, they play West Coast baseball, they
pitch it, they play good defense, they got a really
good shortstop.
Speaker 3: They haven't lost the game in the postseason. Yeah, and
I just.
Speaker 4: Think that Murray State can swing it. Their pitching staff's
a little you know, t B D TVD. I like
you L yeah, and so like I keep trying to play,
you know, mind tricks myself. I think I'm like, well,
you know, U c l A like they can be
able to adjust to the eighty eight mile per hour fastball.
Speaker 5: But that really started thinking about it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, you doesn't play in the SEC,
right And there's some bad teams in the Big Ten,
right are There's some teams that don't have frontline starters.
There's guys that they probably on like Friday nights, see
guys that throw eighty eight.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you crazy stat that I heard.
Speaker 4: I believe it's the Big Ten average fastball velocity in
the Big.
Speaker 3: Ten right now. I think it's like ninety miles an hour.
Speaker 4: Wow, the average fastball velocity and the SEC is ninety
four point three miles an hour.
Speaker 3: How crazy is a big mile?
Speaker 4: That's why it feels like every I mean everybody that
comes out of the SEC, like at the bullpen now
is ninety six plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stupid.
Speaker 4: Like if you face anybody throwing ninety two of an
SEC bullpen, it's because you're playing Missouri.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6: Or the guys got like some nasty crazy second pitch sliders.
Speaker 3: The deal where it is, but yeah, it's nuts. I
mean we've got a couple of minutes left.
Speaker 4: Like when you were in the SEC, I mean it was,
it was the best of the best, But how much
has that changed?
Speaker 6: So I used to can people always say, oh, what
would you can compare it to when you were there?
I was like, I compare the SEC competition when I
was there at HYA because you have one or two
really good stars and you have one or two three
guys out of the bullpen.
Speaker 3: The lineup was usually really good.
Speaker 6: And so now I compare it to double A because
of how much more velocity they have coming out of
the bullpen. That was the big difference is you didn't
have the bullpen arms they have them now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about double A competition, Yeah, which is like
a lot of times the best baseball in the minors
right right, right, most talent I don't think LULL.
Speaker 3: They might almost take Arkansas, so be it.
Speaker 4: If you want to take Arkansas, you can woo pig
here it. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be a heavyweight fight.
It's gonna be a championship game. Yeah, it's gonna be.
The crowd is going to be electric because like Arkansas
is gonna travel, no doubt, there's gonna be They're gonna
be calling the pigs, calling the hall. All that's gonna
be happening. El's gonna have more fans. But it is
going to be a championship series environment.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean that those are the two best teams
in the tournament, I believe, and it's unfortunately they play
first game.
Speaker 3: You have to play them at some point whatever, and
you're probably going to play them again. Yep. And look,
why not playing when you're fully arrested with your ace
on the mountain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, there's no half stepping
into this game. Uh.
Speaker 5: I do like l s U in this one. L
s U won this season series.
Speaker 4: Certainly l s U with a lot of confidence after
the way they you know, took down West Virginia in
the Super Region. Arkansas two look, Arkansas, U C L
A Coastal the only three teams that have not lost
a game in the postseason.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have confidence too. It's gonna be a hell
of a game. Let me ask you this, who's your
final match finals matchup?
Speaker 5: I've got Oregon State and L s U.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got, I got Coastal on l s U.
Coastal on L s U.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jordan, I.
Speaker 2: Go Coastal l s U al right, because.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: That's going to be my pig. But I'll go go
Coastal L s U.
Speaker 4: It's fine, I'll be I'll be the one that you
know went something different. You got ten seconds take up
SU alright, three for Coastal L s U. Mike, you're
the man.
Speaker 3: Anytime you need me, I got y'all filling from that
any time. Don't temp me with a good.
Speaker 4: Time more hour three coming up off the bench, cause
Flyinn's probably gonna like a vacation nor two and so
we'd love to have you back in. Go check out
Rouse's Markets. Go to Rouses dot com. When you go
to the website, just put in your zip cod it's
gona pull up the closest store to you, it's gonna
pull up the weekly specials they have in your area,
and you go check out the weekly ad, and you
know they've always got great fantastic deals going on there.
At Rowse's we talked about the different ones going on
this week with the bicolor corn. You've got that eighty
percent lean ground beef on sale right now as well.
So go see your local rouses today when you go in.
No matter what you're looking for, you know they're going
to have it, including look our guy, the my High,
the CEO of Hydration, Matt Flyinn's got his product in there.
Speaker 5: He believes in them. We believe in them.
Speaker 4: You do as well, and if you don't, you certainly
will by the time you leave.
Speaker 5: Go check them out online.
Speaker 4: Check out those weeklyadsouses dot com