Speaker 1: Callaroga shark media.
Speaker 2: In there. I warn you they're about to over expose
Speaker 2: in a Berghetzi. There are two big pieces in the
Speaker 2: Washington Post and The New York Times. I'll discuss them
Speaker 2: on the podcast tomorrow for reasons I'll explain later. Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Mack with your Daily Comedy News. But I
Speaker 2: did share them in the Facebook group, which is Daily
Speaker 2: Comedy News podcast group. Ronnie Chang special getting a lot
Speaker 2: of buzz front of the show. Jason Zenimann has it
Speaker 2: as the number one special of the year. My plan
Speaker 2: was to watch it on Tuesday evening and discuss it tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and then I can record my end of the year list.
Speaker 2: Daily Times caught up with Ronnie. I also shared this
Speaker 2: in the Facebook group, and they wrote Che's weapon of
Speaker 2: choice as a wardrobe of tailored vintage threads fit for
Speaker 2: a sixty spy caper. What a great description that is,
Speaker 2: even on a day that finds him off stage in
Speaker 2: his normal street wear, a dark blue sweater and ball
Speaker 2: cap hiding ahead of tossled black hair. Chang's thoughtfulness in
Speaker 2: discussing his recent career uptick is indicative of the international
Speaker 2: mindset of a comic who combines old school style and
Speaker 2: a new school prospect. The only time said aspects of
Speaker 2: the special, oh spoilers, I'm spoiling myself because I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it yet. As I record this are bound to
Speaker 2: resonate with people your age, especially jokes about putting off
Speaker 2: having kids for the sake of your career. Have your
Speaker 2: thoughts on putting off parenthood changed it all since filming
Speaker 2: a special? Ronnie said, Yeah, it's interesting. I did the
Speaker 2: bit and I was just kind of talking about what's
Speaker 2: happening in my life, and I have to say not
Speaker 2: to about myself on the back, but a lot of
Speaker 2: people surprisingly have been relating to it, so it feels
Speaker 2: like everyone in America is doing it. I wrote it
Speaker 2: this year, so it's a very current bit. So I'm
Speaker 2: still in that mindset. I'm a bad person to ask
Speaker 2: about it because I don't have kids, so I don't
Speaker 2: know everyone who does have kids tell me there's never
Speaker 2: a good time, and it's fine. Bill Burr was telling
Speaker 2: me that he wished he had more sooner, So all
Speaker 2: that stuff gives me a kind of respective on it.
Speaker 2: Seinfeld told me that being married and not having kids
Speaker 2: is like going to Disneyland and staying in the car park.
Speaker 2: But everyone who's the comic who I admire seems to
Speaker 2: say that it's not only okay to have kids were
Speaker 2: working on your career, it's great. As for his attire,
Speaker 2: when I did my first special, I wanted it to
Speaker 2: look professional in classic because I didn't want it to
Speaker 2: look amateur. Felt like it was an American to me,
Speaker 2: this is the NBA of comedy and entertainment. Every special idea,
Speaker 2: I try to have a visual aesthetic that matches a
Speaker 2: classic American show business era. This one was Elvis in Hawaii.
Speaker 2: I've been lucky to film a few projects in Hawaii.
Speaker 2: I did at least one movie there. If not too
Speaker 2: it'd sound so hacky to say I love Hawaii, but
Speaker 2: I definitely feel something there reminds me of the best
Speaker 2: parts of Malaysia and the best parts of America in
Speaker 2: one place, and was a shelter from my wife and
Speaker 2: I during the pandemic. All right, Ronnie Chang, are there
Speaker 2: any comedy heroes you model yourself after? Interesting answer here,
Speaker 2: He says, A lot of times, I'd model my decisions
Speaker 2: after A Z's I'm sorry, I asked myself a lot like,
Speaker 2: wou does Ese do that? And how Wouldeszz do a poster?
Speaker 2: Because he's very tasteful, obviously very funny, and he also
Speaker 2: managed to do comedy in a way where he kind
Speaker 2: of went beyond race. Everybody loved him. I don't know
Speaker 2: about people who worked with him. Leave that there, John,
Speaker 2: And it wasn't about his ethnicity. And he was sort
Speaker 2: of a super funny comic and he was always very
Speaker 2: stylish and tasteful, and he also didn't over expose himself
Speaker 2: in terms of social media. Ronnie, he was canceled Google,
Speaker 2: so he's very selective in what he did. Bill Burg
Speaker 2: executive produced my special. I'm glad I can get advice
Speaker 2: from Dave Chappelle and Seinfeld and all the greats of comedy.
Speaker 2: Joe Coy gives me advice. I'm trying to imagine what
Speaker 2: that advice would be. I would guess Joe Cooy's advice
Speaker 2: would be like, if you're at the Golden Globes, don't
Speaker 2: make a joke about Taylor Swift. No, I won't play it.
Speaker 2: I got a lot to do today. Uh, I film
Speaker 2: my last special and Joe Coy had filmed a special
Speaker 2: at the same place ten years before me. So I
Speaker 2: called him and asked him, Hey, anything I should know
Speaker 2: about this venue, and he gave me specific tips. He
Speaker 2: told me to make up the balcony stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Ali Wang's always giving me advice. I'm very lucky to
Speaker 2: be able to get advice from everybody. Also learned a
Speaker 2: lot from John mulaney. John let me open for him
Speaker 2: this year, and I got to see how he works
Speaker 2: and how he runs his shows, and I got a
Speaker 2: lot out of it, just logistically, how to organize the
Speaker 2: show at that level. The look I picked was classic
Speaker 2: American show business because quite honestly, it was easier for
Speaker 2: me to look classic than to look fashionable. You just
Speaker 2: have to put on a suit to make sure it fits.
Speaker 2: When you try to look fashionable, you're trying to look
Speaker 2: forward into what would be stylish or what will stay stylish.
Speaker 2: So it's easier for me to look backwards for style
Speaker 2: and be more classic and be more professional. He points out,
Speaker 2: you can't dress that way doing spots in New York City.
Speaker 2: I feel like if he did three piece suits every
Speaker 2: single time, it almost looks like a gimmick, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of lose it's its impact. Interesting question here from
Speaker 2: The La Times. Ronnie, do you think selling merch is
Speaker 2: a comic is more trouble than it's worth? He said.
Speaker 2: I never want to sell something I wouldn't buy myself.
Speaker 2: So if I wouldn't wear it every day proudly, why
Speaker 2: would I try to sell it. And when you bring
Speaker 2: merch on the road, everybody takes so much of a cut.
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense anymore unless you make it
Speaker 2: into an entire operation and you outsource it. I'm happy
Speaker 2: they bought a ticket. I don't need to extract more
Speaker 2: money from them. But that's just me. I asked Bill
Speaker 2: Burr about this, because he doesn't really do much either.
Speaker 2: I asked if he ever figured out and he's like, nah,
Speaker 2: they take such a big cut and it's not worth it.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, if Bill Burr can't figure it out,
Speaker 2: then I don't think I can figure it out. I
Speaker 2: do sell socks and vinyl on my website, so people
Speaker 2: can buy socks and vinyl if they want to buy something,
Speaker 2: but it's also an environmental thing. I just don't want
Speaker 2: to sell something that would end up in a river
Speaker 2: choking out a sea turtle. Nikki Glazer was on CBS
Speaker 2: this morning. Now I'm gonna pull some clips here and
Speaker 2: not comment on them. Why. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: picking me up. But I'm a little hyper so this
Speaker 2: time year, everyone's home, and to publish the podcast, I
Speaker 2: have to edit the podcast. To edit the podcast, I
Speaker 2: have to voice the podcast. To voice the podcast, after
Speaker 2: write the podcast, and I'm doing all that before some
Speaker 2: members of the family wake up, and before another member
Speaker 2: of the family comes home, and it's like, hey, I
Speaker 2: want to use the workout equipment that's two feet from
Speaker 2: the studio, and I want to do laundry. So I'm
Speaker 2: really trying to rush to get today's show done, and
Speaker 2: I have to do some other stuff. I have to
Speaker 2: do some voice work for the show I host on
Speaker 2: Live one, The Weekly Comedy Thing. It's free the Aposphere.
Speaker 2: The show is free, The Weekly Comedy Thing on Live one.
Speaker 2: So I'm a little hyper here. So I've pulled the
Speaker 2: Nikki audio, but I haven't at this point, as I'm
Speaker 2: voicing this, I haven't said, oh, I'll put this clip here,
Speaker 2: that clip there. So here's some random Nicki Glazer audio.
Speaker 1: It really is fun to be me. It's it's been
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work leading up to this point
Speaker 1: of like a twenty two year career where some people
Speaker 1: are suddenly starting to take notice on this kind of
Speaker 1: like bigger scale. And I'm at a point in my
Speaker 1: life where, you know, I'm old enough to kind of
Speaker 1: handle this kind of attention and not let it go
Speaker 1: to my head, know that it can go away at
Speaker 1: any point, and feeling like I have you know, good family,
Speaker 1: good friends around me, and and knowing like how to
Speaker 1: do a gig like this. If I would have gotten
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes five years ago, I would have not
Speaker 1: really known how to handle it. I would have worked
Speaker 1: myself too hard. I would have been crying, yea naked
Speaker 1: getting a spray tann the night before, like what am
Speaker 1: I doing tomorrow? Like I've that was a moment. I
Speaker 1: had a lot of times in my life of like
Speaker 1: like I have to be on TV tomorrow. And now
Speaker 1: it's just like I know how to plan things, I
Speaker 1: know how to train for them, and I just feel ready.
Speaker 2: Normally I would comment on that audio there, but I
Speaker 2: explained to you I'm a little hyper today and I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to get this done. New York Times reported
Speaker 2: on Monday night, more than a dozen comedians walked into
Speaker 2: a Broadway theater to talk about love among other people there.
Speaker 2: David Letterman, by the way, I'm the guest on the
Speaker 2: Letterman Podcast on Friday, and I dropped a hint in
Speaker 2: the Facebook group Daily Comedy News Podcast Group about that
Speaker 2: interview and the numbers one one, and now I think
Speaker 2: like we've over hyped it. Mike Chishom, the host of
Speaker 2: Letterman Podcast Night, I think we've overhyped it. I'm using
Speaker 2: the interview if you don't want to listen to it
Speaker 2: on the Letterman Podcast, but you should. I'm using it
Speaker 2: here as the January first episode, so it's one less
Speaker 2: thing for me to pretape over the holidays. That's all.
Speaker 2: No major announcement. Sorry if we override that. That was
Speaker 2: not the intention. I was just trying to be fun anyway.
Speaker 2: At the theater, Letterman, Tom Hank, Steve Martin, Pete Davidson,
Speaker 2: Olivia Munn, John Stewart, and some others. They were there
Speaker 2: to see all in Comedy About Love by Simon Rich.
Speaker 2: It opens December twenty second at the Hudson Theater. Olivia
Speaker 2: Munn and John m'laney greeted each other with a kiss
Speaker 2: and explain they hadn't seen each other much. Olivia said
Speaker 2: the hardest thing right now is having a toddler and
Speaker 2: a newborn. They try to schedule date nights, but then
Speaker 2: they'll look at each other and say, should we just
Speaker 2: stay home instead. M'laney said, that's the best type of
Speaker 2: date night when we both want to bail. John Stewart
Speaker 2: was wearing jeans and a New York Ranger as a
Speaker 2: camp with a tan jacket. His answer about love is
Speaker 2: it has to do with gummies. Fred Armison said the
Speaker 2: thing I've told my wife. We've been married almost twenty
Speaker 2: five years, and I tell her the same thing every day.
Speaker 2: I wake up, look at her the eye and say,
Speaker 2: lower your expectations, and then I live up to them.
Speaker 2: Pete Davidson said, I don't really have advice except I
Speaker 2: guess be patient, be yourself, and hopefully you'll meet the
Speaker 2: right person. The more you try and look, the more
Speaker 2: you freak yourself out. I think it should happen organically.
Speaker 2: Johnny Mack added, record your podcast when she's not at home.
Speaker 2: Then you don't have to fight over why you're doing
Speaker 2: the laundry when I'm trying to record. That's a big
Speaker 2: tip there. Andrew Schultz on his podcast, he continued to
Speaker 2: discuss the issues between himself and Kendrick Lamar. Schultz things
Speaker 2: Kendrick is taking a page from Taylor Swift's victim playbook.
Speaker 2: Uh oh. Schultz said, Kendrick really is the Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: of hip hop in that no matter what he does,
Speaker 2: he's still the victim, no matter what. Like you know
Speaker 2: how Taylor's always the victim. Like she's the biggest in
Speaker 2: music history. She's a victim to the label, She's a
Speaker 2: victim to Scooter Braun, she's a victim to her boyfriend's
Speaker 2: and yet she's the biggest in the world. Somehow, Kendrick
Speaker 2: is the victim here. I'll let she's also a victim
Speaker 2: of Joe Coy's vicious I mean, his joke was so vicious.
Speaker 2: I know earlier I didn't play it, but I think
Speaker 2: Andrew brings up a thing here. Listen to how mean
Speaker 2: Joe Cooy was about Taylor Swift. A big difference between
Speaker 2: the Golden Gloves and the NFL. On the Golden Gloves,
Speaker 2: we have fewer camera shots of Taylor Swift, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's vicious. And then she justifiably made a face and
Speaker 2: turned the room against Joe Coy and made everybody say
Speaker 2: Joe Coy did a terrible job hosting. I mean, really,
Speaker 2: to suggest that an NFL game has more shots of
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift than the Golden Globes, I mean, absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2: Schultz then broke down the timeline of the beef with Kendrick.
Speaker 2: According to Schultz, Kendrick dropped whacked out morals and mentioned
Speaker 2: Schultz's friends on the song. Then, according to this recap,
Speaker 2: death threats start after Kendrick fans threatened Schultz and his
Speaker 2: family on social media. Schultz said he was quiet for
Speaker 2: two weeks and finally said, all of kendricks fans go,
Speaker 2: how could you say that? And then Schultz shot back
Speaker 2: something vulgar. Schultz's quote is saying, all of Kendrick's fans go,
Speaker 2: how could you say that? Oh my god, you can't
Speaker 2: go there. You can't take it there. But I thought
Speaker 2: y'all get there when you said you're gonna kill my
Speaker 2: family member. So wait, you can kill my family member,
Speaker 2: But I can't vulgar thing. I'm really cleaning up here,
Speaker 2: and I'm avoiding something I don't want to voice. You
Speaker 2: can listen to Andrew Schultz podcast, Margaret Show in a
Speaker 2: light hot of water, So there's no such thing as
Speaker 2: light hot lukewarm water. Margaret Show and lukewarm water really
Speaker 2: rushing today. I under a lot of pressure to get
Speaker 2: this one done. Let's see. Margaret was on the Out
Speaker 2: one hundred Red Carpet, an event hosted by Out magazine
Speaker 2: that honors the most significant LGBTQ plus individuals for the year.
Speaker 2: In a video interview, she was asked, who are you
Speaker 2: holding space for right now? She replied, the United Healthcare
Speaker 2: CEO Shooter. I'm holding space for as most people I
Speaker 2: know are. We're holding space for those eyebrows, that body
Speaker 2: the abs. Here's Morgan jumped in and said, sickening. What
Speaker 2: is wrong with these people? Apparently what we do in
Speaker 2: the Shadows had its series finale. This is the thing
Speaker 2: that happened. I missed it. They sure didn't promote it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew about the Yellowstone finale, but apparently
Speaker 2: the series is over, very very very very light spoilers
Speaker 2: from the AV Club. I didn't even read the entire
Speaker 2: article because I didn't want to spoil myself. I like
Speaker 2: that show. I don't even know if I knew it
Speaker 2: was on. I'm sure I told you was on, but
Speaker 2: like I forgot about it because it's on regular TV
Speaker 2: and I don't come across it. But apparently Finale was
Speaker 2: a funny half hour of what the aft do you
Speaker 2: actually want from us? Utterly ruthless in the face of
Speaker 2: any back of bringing impulse to go for in Everybody
Speaker 2: Hugs Moment Shadows, Finale instead plays tribute to its history
Speaker 2: while thumbing its nose at the idea of deeper meanings.
Speaker 2: All right, that sounds pretty good. I'll have to catch
Speaker 2: up on that. On Gossip Corner, Chevy Chase went out
Speaker 2: for steak in Peoria. He was at Jim's Steakhouse over
Speaker 2: the weekend. Waitress Gala said Chase and his family arrived
Speaker 2: around six point thirty on Saturday, and said, I was
Speaker 2: just super excited to meet him, you know, and I
Speaker 2: was really obviously honored to be able to wait on
Speaker 2: him and his family. Kristin, the manager, described Chase as
Speaker 2: a normal, regular family type of guy. Kayla, the waitress,
Speaker 2: said I did hear him say something about he was
Speaker 2: just glad they could all be there for dinner. I
Speaker 2: just try to give him that time. The space to
Speaker 2: eat and you know, enjoy time with his family. Kristin,
Speaker 2: the manager, said, we put a picture on the table
Speaker 2: for him to sign for us to put up on
Speaker 2: the wall, and I hear that he cracked a joke
Speaker 2: to make sure that we hang it in the ladies room.
Speaker 2: While in Peoria, Chase spoke to the Peoria Journal Star
Speaker 2: and he was asked who should be on the Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore of comedy. Chevy's answer, I'd want to have Danny ackroyd,
Speaker 2: Richard Pryor, Ernie Kovacs, and Charlie Chaplin with me. Well
Speaker 2: that's five. So first of all, there's only four on
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore. And if I weren't trying to get today's
Speaker 2: podcast done as quickly as possible, I would comment on
Speaker 2: that list some other time. Chevy said, those are the ones.
Speaker 2: They really are cracked point out that Richard Pryor would
Speaker 2: not want to be on the mountain with Chevy. Day
Speaker 2: saw were is Paul Mooney's book Becoming Richard Pryor. In
Speaker 2: the book, apparently, Mooney wrote, Chevy Chase was the doll baby,
Speaker 2: the darling of the discotheque with straight teeth, and Richard
Speaker 2: wanted to knock them out There was supposed to be
Speaker 2: a show on Monday Night aimed at bringing together communities
Speaker 2: from both sides of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Debate. Don't
Speaker 2: Hate would have taken place at Stand Up New York.
Speaker 2: Organizers were forced to cancel after pro Palestinian comedians withdrew.
Speaker 2: Palestinian comedian Ahman El Hussini wrote to the organizers, thanks
Speaker 2: for reaching out, but I can't share the stage with
Speaker 2: any Zaionazis while my people in Arabs in the region
Speaker 2: are being decipated and genocided. So Israelis can have beach
Speaker 2: houses in more Land, that's not theirs. Libyan comedian Mohand
Speaker 2: El Shaiki posted on Instagram claiming the now canceled show
Speaker 2: was a little debate about why murdering children is wrong.
Speaker 2: Helen Rosner is a Palestinian activist and wrote, some comedy
Speaker 2: club in New York City is apparently putting on a
Speaker 2: both sides night about Israel's annihilation of Gaza, inviting me
Speaker 2: to build a more inclusive community. Organizer Robin Lemberg told
Speaker 2: The New York Post the intention was not to debate genocide.
Speaker 2: Humor is one of the most powerful tools we have
Speaker 2: to lower defenses. In foster connection. It disarms anger and fear,
Speaker 2: opening the door to conversations that would otherwise feel impossible.
Speaker 2: The facts are that anti Semitism is growing exponentially to
Speaker 2: diminish the rise of Islamophobia as well. That concerns me
Speaker 2: personally and feels awful for all of us. Comedian Elon
Speaker 2: Gold told the Post it's a missed opportunity. The whole
Speaker 2: point of comedy, beside the laughing part, is the unifying
Speaker 2: and the sharing of the human experience, and if comedians
Speaker 2: on both sides of this can't get their literal act together,
Speaker 2: I'm concerned for the rest of humanity. Donnie Zuldan, the
Speaker 2: founder of Stand Up New York and someone I'm friendly with,
Speaker 2: and we work together in the back of the podcast
Speaker 2: company a website called the Algeimer dot com, they say
Speaker 2: last week on Thursday, Donnie released an open letter addressed
Speaker 2: to the Propalstinian Comics. According the report, the letter said,
Speaker 2: by participating, you're not endorsing any narrative or perspective other
Speaker 2: than your own. You're helping to create a space where
Speaker 2: others can see what it looks like to sit in
Speaker 2: the same room, listen and engage without fear or anger
Speaker 2: dictating the conversation. We need your voices, we need your humor,
Speaker 2: and most importantly, we need your courage to engage on
Speaker 2: a happier note if you're me. The National Film Registry
Speaker 2: has put Star Trek two into the National Film Registry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: big fan of that. I wrote about it on my
Speaker 2: substack mcdeepod dot substack dot com link in the show notes.
Speaker 2: But we're running along here, and as much as I
Speaker 2: want to talk about Star Trek to the Wrath of
Speaker 2: KHN for twenty minutes, I'll refer you to the substack
Speaker 2: and bring it back to comedy. Beverly Hills Cop from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four is the first live action Eddie Murphy
Speaker 2: film selected for the Registry, also making it cheech and
Speaker 2: chongs up in smoke. Congratulations to those guys, and that
Speaker 2: is your comedy news for today. Whew, I got it done.
Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.