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<v Speaker 1>From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza.

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<v Speaker 2>Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he'd liked to be walked on a leash and

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<v Speaker 1>play really dirty kinky sex games. Is uh the guy

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<v Speaker 1>put the cock in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>aj Ben's youre here with fame, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>This is your daily Unfiltered podcast for October twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. One oh two two.

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<v Speaker 2>Two I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh two five nice one O two to two oh

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<v Speaker 1>two five, A lot of the well shit, almost the falloffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Darn it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need one more oh one more zero one more one. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't kill it. You know. I just did.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight minutes of his show that's probably gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight minutes, and I moved my hand and I

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<v Speaker 1>hit the microphone and that stopped the recording. Don't ask

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<v Speaker 1>me why, and I couldn't save it. So here I

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<v Speaker 1>am back, and you know I just did my before

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<v Speaker 1>I start.

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<v Speaker 2>I always do testing, testing, got to see if the

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<v Speaker 2>microphone's working right, texting testing, testing.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me think of I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to all of you with this reference, but

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me think of the cigarette ad for Durrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Darraul cigarettes, Taste me, taste me, I kept saying, testing, testing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, I'm singing the Duraul cigarette song.

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<v Speaker 1>That was such a crazy commercial, a cigarette brand telling

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<v Speaker 1>you to taste it, tase me, taste me, take a

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<v Speaker 1>puff and let me do my stuff. Oh it was

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. And these two guys are in a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the commercial. Some commercials just stick out, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a spicy meat all the alcal Celtic commercial. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you ate it, Ralph all the great, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>smorgash boarg.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many great commercials over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>But these two guys are in a bar and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a floating pack of dural cigarettes and they're both trying

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<v Speaker 1>to grab it, and the pack is going taste me,

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<v Speaker 1>teast me, and the one idiot goes he grabs the pack.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, well, your zuberant self confidence is amply justified

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<v Speaker 1>by your superb good taste real cherkle. Then two ladies

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<v Speaker 1>are in the supermarket. Both are smoking. Hey what he

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<v Speaker 1>got there? Oh? I smoked Durell Darrell and she also

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<v Speaker 1>up a pack of Raleigh. No, it's all about Durrell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing, well, it's less tar. Oh, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>great things. You have to know what's less tar? And

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<v Speaker 1>I bought that. I bought a lawn sprink a little

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<v Speaker 1>with the good ponds I get on the cigarette pack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so bad and here we are thinking all those years.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get an old.

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<v Speaker 2>Magazine from the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some old playboys, the cigarette ads, the liquor ads,

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<v Speaker 1>the men's cologne ads where the women, the women just

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<v Speaker 1>look like all they could do was just hunger for

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<v Speaker 1>the man.

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<v Speaker 2>And old spice.

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<v Speaker 1>My father always knowed them old spice and canoe.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know, canoe do you canoe? Where do you canoe? Rosalie?

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<v Speaker 1>But my father is his colognes, old spiced and canoe

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<v Speaker 1>British sterling. When I went to may SE's and began

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<v Speaker 1>to work during college, that's when I fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with men's colognes. I gribbed chaps first. Then it was

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<v Speaker 1>Paco Rabon and oh I've graduated to Calvin Klein, to Couros,

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<v Speaker 1>to uh so many great, so many Halston C fourteen Holston.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still wear E fourteen. They only stewed it right

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<v Speaker 1>AIDS and CBS is if you're lucky, should go on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have twenty twenty five bottles of cologne.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have won.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an old it's a little bottle. My wonderful friend

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<v Speaker 1>Nari well she pronounced it naughty. It's Amanda, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like her Korean name Natty. She gave me a little

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<v Speaker 1>young Gotier ba tiny Jean Paul Gotier bottle. It just

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the nineties because he was so big then,

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<v Speaker 1>and I touched my neck with it once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, love her, I love it, Love Jean

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<v Speaker 1>Paul JPG. Hey, a lot of j Lo in the

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<v Speaker 1>news lately, and I'm looking on box Office Mojo, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what I used to always go to when I

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<v Speaker 1>was producing so be It. By the way, so be

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<v Speaker 1>It has gone up in Rotten Tomatoes. He used to

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<v Speaker 1>have like a not touch a good score. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like six point eight, I think out of ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Tomato meter is higher than it was six seven

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, so more people are seeing it. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet family movie, it really is. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back then, when it landed, it was all superhero movies

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<v Speaker 1>and all that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>But now you well, it's never gonna be seen anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem with producing a small movie. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>rarely seen, even one awards for film festivals. We were

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<v Speaker 1>proud about that and really proud of the work that

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<v Speaker 1>the actors. But Chlorus Leech, Finn, John Hurd alfre worded,

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<v Speaker 1>and a wonderful Talitha Bateman, She's amazing. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys from Ray Donovan who I love, can't think

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<v Speaker 1>his name, you know, they got with the weird name.

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<v Speaker 2>Who played the brother. Oh God, I love my can't

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I cleared my throat a lot yesterday and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it more today.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize. I listened to the show this morning. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like the way it sounded. So I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do my best, not too anyhow.

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<v Speaker 1>Box Office Mojo says that The Kiss of the Spider Woman,

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<v Speaker 1>the j LO movie, opened up number twelve in the

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<v Speaker 1>box office here in America.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a good time. The second week it went

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<v Speaker 2>down to nineteen. That's curtains.

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<v Speaker 1>The film has been only one point five million one

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<v Speaker 1>point five.

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<v Speaker 2>The budget was thirty mili.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people say the budget might have been fifty sixty

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<v Speaker 1>mili after it Jo got paid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can certainly believe that that's not the only bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>The Leonardo DiCaprio movie, One Battle after Another, which everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>telling you to see, lining up to be another bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people are gonna see it because he was

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<v Speaker 1>directed by the great Paul Thomas Anderson of Boogie Knights

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<v Speaker 1>and Magnolia's.

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<v Speaker 2>Fame in other movies. He's good, he's an auteur.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't look like it's gonna make the money

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to make. It looks like gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>big loser. The Hollywood rags are saying it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever. Variety actually ran a headline saying, one Battle

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<v Speaker 1>after Another the review Paul Thomas Anderson's insanely great action

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<v Speaker 1>movie with Leo Sean pennin Ninia del Toro has it

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<v Speaker 1>all that you would think those three guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd run.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes on one of the streamers, I'll watch it,

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<v Speaker 1>although I better not be NETFLIXU. I canceled Netflix, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about it. But it made twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>million in change ba ba bah. Now it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight but this is one hundred and thirty, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million dollar budget. They think this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a big one hundred million dollar loser.

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<v Speaker 1>Well listen, sorry, but you know, if you know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's about, of course it's gonna lose. Why would they

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<v Speaker 1>think it'd be great? Well, why would they think people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna run out to see? This is what the

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<v Speaker 1>country is so fractured? The movie is about a leftist

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<v Speaker 1>militant group that liberates immigrants from a detention center. Excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me who produced this? AOC and Chuck Schumer. It's about authoritarianism,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's about people being against Christian nationalism and.

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<v Speaker 2>People being oppressed by an unaccountable force.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading now. The film sympathizes with leftist characters and

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<v Speaker 1>their desire to fight against a corrupt system.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to you, it's corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's corrupt at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what's happening, and I love what a what

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<v Speaker 1>Carolyn Levit said to that asshole who works for the freaking,

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<v Speaker 1>the stupidest website, Huffington Post. He thinks he's a real reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>He just texts her left talking points and asked the

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<v Speaker 1>most ridiculous questions, and she let him have it. She

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<v Speaker 1>called him bullsh You're a bullshit artist. You always flood

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<v Speaker 1>my text message with He's left his talking points, she

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<v Speaker 1>killed them. But I'll do that on politics as a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to talk quickly about this came up

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I saw a picture of the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who who was lucky enough, well whatever you want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to make an arrangement with David Geffert, the

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood multi billionaire. Okay, we know David's gay, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to marry his share He said he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gay one hundred years ago, but sucked one cock.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Get done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you taste, if you take it from behind,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You can't go back to the other team.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you do that, you're done. You're on that team.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wearing the jersey of the other team. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought about it. I'm back on the straight side. No

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. We're not gonna accept you, not gonna punish you,

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<v Speaker 2>but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just can't be on this team. We don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>in the dugout sit over there. So this kid something Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Barry Donovan. I think his name. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he goes by the initials DG. Just to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look these two men on a website called Seeking Arrangements

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com dating site. Okay, listen, if you're David Geffer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're worth all these billions. You're too old. You're eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two years old. You're not gonna try to find a mate,

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<v Speaker 1>a man you can marry and settle down with. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to have some fun. You know, you got money

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<v Speaker 1>for days, You've got some passion, you got all the

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<v Speaker 1>big toys. Hey, you want to be with me for

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<v Speaker 1>the next God knows what. I'll make your life easier.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll pleasure me when I needed you know, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you say men do.

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<v Speaker 2>It with women?

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that at the other day when

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to you that Jeremy Piven, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>getting married. I dated a couple of different girls dated

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<v Speaker 1>him and told me who dated me, and told me

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<v Speaker 1>he just talks about himself incessantly. And these two girls

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<v Speaker 1>are beautiful and pivots like that. He just is stuck

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<v Speaker 1>wanting you to hear about him. And you know they said, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew we were getting into but we didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be that much of a narcissist.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the way it is in Hollywood with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're just trying to get an arrangement, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an example, and this might make you

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<v Speaker 1>turned off. Jerry Buss, the old man who used to

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<v Speaker 1>own the Lakers, and now it's owned by his daughter, Jeanie.

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<v Speaker 1>They just sold ten billion dollars of it. She married

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Jay Moore, who christ that he's stepping it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm happy for the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Buss would be at the mansion all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>really great friends with Hugh Hefter, and these girls would

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<v Speaker 1>need their their car note pay they don't. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are there. They have so many millions and

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're paying some chicks it's twelve hundred dollars month apartment

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>But the side deals were i'll pay for your apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay your car. Note in fact, you want a

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<v Speaker 1>bought my as girlfriend a jeep before I was with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say no because a girl in this town

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<v Speaker 1>There's way before uber you're in trouble. So the deal was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay for your apartment. You know what, once a month,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to go out with me. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>go to a private poker game. I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>rub my back while in there. I need you to

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<v Speaker 2>Know that I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're with me, and you know, maybe once a week

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<v Speaker 1>you let me watch you take a shower. So everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>got a price in this town. Those are real stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But seeking arrangements dot com David Geffen, same guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but gay wants an arrangement and they fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote, and they get married. There's no prenup though.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why Geffen would do that. He's eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>he's worth nine billion dollars and this asshole kid you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up and forced to care, had issues as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a physical trainer at a gym. That's where randomly

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<v Speaker 1>met David Geffen to begin with, you know, and his

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<v Speaker 1>be rich and famous. So clearly got what he want

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of, well, she's not rich or famous, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has no problem getting what he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's over, and he got.

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<v Speaker 1>Some money, maybe a few million, butch sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot when you're younger, but really it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get you too far. And if he was really a

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<v Speaker 1>smooth criminal, I'm thinking you're just wait seven more years

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<v Speaker 1>if you can. He's not going to hold on to

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<v Speaker 1>least eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he might, but then you get half because it's

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<v Speaker 1>common law.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, think he made a bad movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of old coots and their lovers, Mick Jagger and

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<v Speaker 1>his fiance Melanie Hamrick. They were on the Red Carpet recently.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really go out much. They went to the

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<v Speaker 1>British Museum Bowl Polls for pictures mixed eighty two, same

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<v Speaker 1>age as Geffen. He wore the typical old man kind

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<v Speaker 1>of outfit when you go out. Blue jean blazer, nice

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<v Speaker 1>button up shirt and sneakers. That's what the old men wear.

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<v Speaker 1>And the woman goes out with the off the shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>gown looking like cat shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Ba ba bah. She was a farmer ballet dancer, so

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<v Speaker 2>she looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>They're holding hands, Okay, forty four year age gap, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of fine with it. I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>she has gotten whatever she's wanted for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a son, they named it Devereaux. It's mixed,

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<v Speaker 1>eighth kid. They're not engaged. They're not well. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not engaged, but they got engaged a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>very quietly.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna get married. No rush.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure why the word rush is even in

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<v Speaker 1>the sentence. He needs to rush to everything at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two years old, it's rush into the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't he rush to get married? Maybe one day,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, maybe not. It doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of girl a man his age wants,

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<v Speaker 1>like not shooting him to do anything. But this ship

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<v Speaker 1>was a ballet dancer for many, many years, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's uh something Mick likes a lot this, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, I kind of want to blame Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>and his girlfriend Jordan Jordan Hudson, Who's Who's Who's's a

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<v Speaker 1>little set spot. You could tell she's a bit and

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<v Speaker 1>she's too controlling what she's doing to Bill. If you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that video the other day or her the audio

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<v Speaker 1>of them two sitting down in NFL Films and Bill

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna have a show of his first year coaching

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina at the at the college.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't go well.

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<v Speaker 1>They scrapped the show because of her, always on the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>always in his ear. And then she's in this meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>a production meeting. She didn't like the way the graphics looked,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she took Bill to the side and they

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<v Speaker 1>started talking and whispered tones about how bad this group

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<v Speaker 1>of people are. They don't know shit, they can't and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill's agreeing with her, and it was all caught on

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<v Speaker 1>a hot mic and it's not good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I blame all.

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<v Speaker 1>This May December shit, I shouldn't blame him, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill's out there with a fishing pole on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>and his girlfriend's dressed as a mermaid, I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone a little too far. But that's one things,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, got kind of crazy, you know. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough. I understand if you Bill Belichick and you

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<v Speaker 1>see this girl coming at you, you meet on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane and she's all over you. Yeah, it's hard not

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<v Speaker 1>to take her for a spin, you know. But the

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<v Speaker 1>dancers is that I dated at I did it, not

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<v Speaker 1>a stripper. I did a ballet dancer. I dated strippers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm perfectly fine with that. Love a good stripper.

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<v Speaker 1>The sexual they're just sexual women.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. But the ballet dancer is different.

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<v Speaker 1>Way back when, must be nineteen ninety two, ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>me and Jen had broken up and this young girl,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful girl was working at the publishing job I had, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to some executive assistant for the boss that

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<v Speaker 1>typically met hands off. But she was really young, probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. I'm thirty three. We have thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>And she'd walk down the hallway and she'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>pass my well, we had cubicles back then.

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<v Speaker 2>They just became a thing in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Cubicles gray gray, wood, wood painted gray. Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so bad and plexiglass above, so you couldn't like lean

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<v Speaker 1>over and talk to your buddy, you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>over the.

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<v Speaker 2>Gla It was like little prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I woke up and heard the Captain of

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<v Speaker 1>your heart and knew if I cannot go to an

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<v Speaker 1>office every day, shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Me in the fucking eye, I can't do it anyhow.

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<v Speaker 1>Here she comes down, Oh jill aritis and rhyme with Adidas.

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<v Speaker 1>She had an R instead of a dinner name. She

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<v Speaker 1>looked like Connie Selica went out for a drinks pepapah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's telling me what she does. Well, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>at a ballet. I was dancing for years. I compete

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<v Speaker 1>what you did and you look at her body? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell now I could tell, and jail. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a ballet student. My mother teaches ballet to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a studio twenty minutes. So what can I

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<v Speaker 1>show you? Well, dinner's almost all that. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of Margarine say yeah, you could show me your ballet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nighttime. It's ten to eleven o'clock at late, no

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<v Speaker 1>one's there. She's got the key we go in off of.

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<v Speaker 1>I love these old addresses. It was off Nesconstant Highway,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you're a Low Islander, can get very confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's known as the Route three forty seven, not to

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<v Speaker 1>be confused at Route four fifty four, which is veterans hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>They both there's a split in the road when you

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<v Speaker 1>go toward the north out of Long Island, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>on that highway that's highway, and uh, she's doing ballet

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<v Speaker 1>moves in the room. The lights were kind of low,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's mirrors on every wall and the bar that

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<v Speaker 1>goes around the room, so the girls can hold that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing the arabest, the adagio, the plais the purouettes.

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<v Speaker 1>Still has the talent, very sexy, very good doing this barefoot.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>thank god I was young and slim back then because

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<v Speaker 1>we began to have sex in the studio and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't look at myself in the mirror now.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine if.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in shape back then and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>look at every wall was a mirror, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of there screaming like I was in a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Hitchcock movie. Can't see every angle of myself naked

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<v Speaker 1>back then, I guess I could. I looked, Okay, Now, No,

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror is a crack. If she called now and

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<v Speaker 1>said I think I want to see you again at

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<v Speaker 1>my mother's studio, I'd say, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking up jail. I can't coming.

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<v Speaker 1>No one needs to see me in a whole mirrord room.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna happen anyhow. I'm just saying, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>what good look. Guys do this. We you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>of you might go age.

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<v Speaker 1>You always have to talk about his old gong cluss,

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<v Speaker 1>his old girlfriend. You know what. As you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it just discussion falls into that and you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about your reminisce. It brings up old

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<v Speaker 1>stories in your head, like because I know maybe your

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<v Speaker 1>husband doesn't You don't see your husband doing this or

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend doing it. But we all have gone back

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<v Speaker 1>in our past since the advent of social media and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to find the girls who were cut in high

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<v Speaker 1>school or college blah blah blah. Honestly, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one two girls name in college Debbie Massinelli, who

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<v Speaker 1>I had a crush on, and VV Hicks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I don't know girls first and last names. In college,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a commuter. I didn't sleep there and live there.

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<v Speaker 1>But high school I knew them all. That's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of times you go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't hold up, not to say I did, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a fucking casanova. No, but you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a girl and go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? And it could be anything in our age.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be an illness.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know. It's not fair, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty year reunion, there was plenty of girls who

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<v Speaker 1>still look great, and the guys too. Now I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>no more riigious than me. Actually, nineteen eighty. So the

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<v Speaker 1>next reunion we would be twenty well, twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>would be here. It's forty five years. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go to the fifty Oh my god, the fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>five years away.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't. God, I can't go. Hopefully they'll be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found one girl, Debbie Elipa, with the only

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish girl like well, I did it a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish girls, but this one was a real Jewish girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Like both parents Jewish, you know, the kind of parents.

421
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<v Speaker 1>My father would say, their face looks like the map

422
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.319
<v Speaker 1>of Israel. Nice people, and they made a really pretty

423
00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:41.759
<v Speaker 1>sexy daughter. They really did.

424
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Debbie was like five to eleven, great body.

425
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I met her at nightclub when I was divorced, and

426
00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:48.519
<v Speaker 1>she was a fun, wild spirit.

427
00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 2>She lived with her parents. Naturally, she was twenty.

428
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty four, thirty five right, They're a nice Jewish

429
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:57.599
<v Speaker 1>couple who are like maybe forty one, so I'm like, right,

430
00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:02.279
<v Speaker 1>almost the same age as then, which is awkward. But

431
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.599
<v Speaker 1>but but Debby ran the house. I mean she would

432
00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:06.799
<v Speaker 1>take me downstairs to the basement TV room, which is

433
00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like six steps belief.

434
00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>The kitchen.

435
00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>It was very close, and we'd have our fun down there,

436
00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just have some fun. Our parents are

437
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:18.200
<v Speaker 1>ram upstairs, and the father once law will come downstairs first.

438
00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>He'd yelled, dab, dab, I'm thinking I'm gonna I'm gonna

439
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:24.920
<v Speaker 1>work out, all right, dad. She'd roll a rods like

440
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.839
<v Speaker 1>he never works out. Obviously the guy had no muscle tone,

441
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but he had a solo flex downstairs, remember the solo

442
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.160
<v Speaker 1>flex machine that handsome do with the great chest and

443
00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>was taking a shirt off of the commercials or the

444
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.920
<v Speaker 1>print dance solo Flex. He'd come down and bank some

445
00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>bench presses out some military you know.

446
00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Solo flex was a rubber.

447
00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Bands kind of not waits, so it was very quiet,

448
00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and it was kind of ahead of its time to

449
00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>use rubber.

450
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:55.880
<v Speaker 2>They weren't bands. They were thicker than bands.

451
00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>But one night he's doing an exercise and the band

452
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>snapped and it smacked him so hard on the side

453
00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of his head and got the corner of his eye.

454
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>His whole pupil turned red. It was bleeding inside his eye.

455
00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Big Mu looked like someone punished him on the cheekbone.

456
00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:14.279
<v Speaker 1>He was fucked up, and he's got.

457
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.759
<v Speaker 2>To go to the emergency room. And he's like, oh my.

458
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>God, and the wife is yelling, and then Debbie's like,

459
00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.119
<v Speaker 1>he'll be fine, and then.

460
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:24.400
<v Speaker 2>He goes upstairs. The wife is going, what did you do?

461
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, Barri? Are you okay?

462
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. We gotta go to the er. And he's like,

463
00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.079
<v Speaker 2>deb do you and Ak want to come with us

464
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:33.400
<v Speaker 2>to the emergency room. She's like, are you kidding me? Dead?

465
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>No, you'll be there for six hours. We'll be fine home,

466
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. They left, and that was to

467
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:43.119
<v Speaker 1>me God saying, now you can have your fun. But

468
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was married for five years before that,

469
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and six years of dating before I was married for her,

470
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm basically locked up for a living years. And

471
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 1>then I meet this debbie who's just a free spirit.

472
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, one day I innocently asked her, what

473
00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do this summer? Because he Sawted

474
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>dating July. What do you want to do this summer?

475
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>She goes, Remember she's twenty. Her answer was, I want

476
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to work on my tan, go to clubs.

477
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 2>And fuck you.

478
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds like a plan to me.

479
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>That happened for a good six seven months.

480
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.839
<v Speaker 1>What have you speaking of older women with younger men,

481
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Actually we're speaking of women with older men, not older women.

482
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But well, let's just say men who might become ill.

483
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you this completely relatable and believable rumor.

484
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:36.079
<v Speaker 1>There's a rumor out there making the rounds that Emma

485
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Hemming is possibly trying to negotiate a payout so she

486
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 1>can divorce Bruce Willis and marry someone else while she's

487
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:49.440
<v Speaker 1>still young and beautiful. Now, it may sound like, ah,

488
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's true, it sounds like a little little crass maybe,

489
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.319
<v Speaker 1>like that's not right. I kind of support her if

490
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what she wants to do. And here's why there

491
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>are people have family members, you know, cousins, this and that,

492
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're married, and they have their whole lives they

493
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 1>do one Let's say they're teachers, you know, they retire

494
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 1>at sixty three years old. Maybe they're athletic. They want

495
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 1>to bite through Europe. Maybe you want to do the

496
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Appalachian Trail like people do. I don't know, whatever you

497
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And one of you, all of a

498
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.759
<v Speaker 1>sudden is diagnosed with dementia at sixty three. Like my

499
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>sister retired the rain and then her husband, Frankie, retires

500
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>so they can spend their lives together, not working, not

501
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.279
<v Speaker 1>even a year entire retirement. She has a seizure as

502
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.559
<v Speaker 1>she's driving, never had a seizure, crashes the car. Not

503
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>too bad, She's gonna drive like fifteen miles an hour.

504
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>But turns out brain cancer that spread to her lungs.

505
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And now they're both retired and there's nothing to do

506
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 1>because she's now suffering with cancer, have to go through

507
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 1>all the chemo and this and that. They still want

508
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 1>on plenty of three day weekends, little fucking five day trips.

509
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean Frankie was so good to my sister for

510
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the last two three years of a life. He was

511
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>always great, but he was especially an angel. But what

512
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 1>happens when you get to that point, like Frankie still

513
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>working out still, you know, like he wasn't being held

514
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 1>back by his age. He's actually younger than I am.

515
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Now.

516
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>When the ring got sick, I still do. I can

517
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>still play football and basketball and go to the gym.

518
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I want to go out and have a

519
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>nice night, you know. So if one person in the

520
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship comes down with an illness unfortunately, or dementia let's say,

521
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean even a fault the person who's healthy to

522
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>it's hard.

523
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to leave them. But if they're suffering

524
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>from dementia and don't know.

525
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>You, you don't leave of that cancer or you know,

526
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 1>any kind of other debilitating illness. But if they don't

527
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>know who you are anymore and they're just gone, there's

528
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>nobody home, the lights are out. I mean, it's sad

529
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to say, but I understand why you can still visit

530
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>them every couple of days. The kids still come. But

531
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mommy needs something else to do. Mommy needs to be

532
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 1>loved Mommy doesn't need to try up and wither away.

533
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing applies to a man. So it

534
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>might sound crass that this, if this room is true,

535
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 1>that it came up, but I kind of understand it.

536
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Some people go downhill really fast. They don't even recognize

537
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the person they loved anymore. They don't recognize their kids anymore.

538
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 1>You put them in a nursing home, you visit them

539
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 1>every few days, you know me, even every day. But

540
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>as long as you have someone someone else to land

541
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 1>on and lean on and love, well.

542
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. In my book, if I found out.

543
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow, if I was still with Andrew and I found

544
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that I've got a terminal illness and it ain't gonna

545
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 1>get better, It's gonna get worse. And I was letna say, man,

546
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 1>tyd have a happily married I'd say, do not stick around.

547
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could stick around, but you better go

548
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>out and get another man. You're young enough, you're pretty enough,

549
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>you're sexy enough. Go get someone else. Do not make

550
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 1>this the end of your life. I mean, there's no

551
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 1>reason for it. So you know, I kind of think

552
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 1>you got to grab onto joy in this life. Grab

553
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>on to joy. Wherever you can find it, because it

554
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>can be snatched away in an instant. So if Emma

555
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Hemmy wants to find joy and Bruce doesn't know who

556
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 1>she is anymore because I got the film and not

557
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>telling us everything about their dad, then go ahead and

558
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 1>do it. Can't get enough of this Prince Andrew story

559
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and the Virginia jew Fray, the whole thing. The big

560
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>reports have surfaced that Andrew asked for police protection to

561
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>dig up information on Virginia jew Fray. They found that

562
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in some league emails. Obviously this is when she was

563
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>still alive.

564
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not good.

565
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 1>He gave somebody he knew, an officer. He gave your phrase,

566
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>social security number and date of birth to look into

567
00:28:53.599 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>her alleged criminal record. And she's seventeen years old.

568
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>At this point.

569
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Man, when she was with Andrew, she was seventeen, and

570
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get dirt on her. This guy's such

571
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 1>a bastard. The more we hear about Prince Andrew, what

572
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit. Had to give up his title

573
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>or he decided I should give it up because they're

574
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna snatch it away anyhow.

575
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Really bad.

576
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 1>But we all know Virginia Tifrey dies of suicide last spring,

577
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 1>only forty one years old, accused Andrew's sexual assault, whether

578
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he's involvement with the Epstein sex trafficking ring raped her,

579
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. We all know the story.

580
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>She follows.

581
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit case was settled, She got about twelve million dollars.

582
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't enough. The pain wasn't enough. The love of her

583
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 1>children wasn't enough. The love of her husband wasn't enough.

584
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 1>She still went and committed suicide. Is that someone who

585
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>just feels the pain of what they went through with Epstein?

586
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Or is this someone who was fucked up to begin with?

587
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I really I need to know to ditch on your

588
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>kids and husband? I don't know.

589
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

590
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine doing that to people who love you

591
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that much. They weren't gonna abandon you. How much pain

592
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>was she in that her husband and kids and twelve

593
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>million bucks couldn't make her feel a little better. I

594
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be crass here, but none of those

595
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>things were able to make her feel better.

596
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>And listen, I'm just gonna say it. Look, she had sex.

597
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>She had sex.

598
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't hot out the window by her feet, she

599
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't beat with clubs. Wasn't punched to a pulp or

600
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>spit on as far as I know. Maybe I should

601
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>read a book and see all the story of details

602
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 1>if she printed them all. But she was subjected to

603
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 1>having sex with some men after years of working, after

604
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>years of working with Epstein and gallad Maxwell, working with

605
00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>them to the point that the two weirdos at some

606
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>point took it to the beach in the Caribbean, a

607
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 1>little smokel expedition, and they're swimming in shallow water. And

608
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 1>that's when Jeffrey told her he really wants her to

609
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>be the vessel that gives birth to he and Gallaane's baby.

610
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And Virginia thought about it because a lot of the

611
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>terms they offered were pretty amazing. Okay, the promises they

612
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 1>made for her were round the clock Danny's, a mansion,

613
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and a monthly allowance of two hundred thousand dollars. But

614
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 1>she'd have to sign all legal rights to the child

615
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 1>over to Epstein.

616
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Ugh, that's that feels wrong. In her book, she wrote, there.

617
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Was no way I wanted to bring a child into

618
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the world for them to raise. What if the baby

619
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 1>were female? Was the plan for Epstein and Actual to

620
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>have me bring that little girl up until she reached puberty,

621
00:31:57.680 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>then hand their own to them to abuse.

622
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Good question.

623
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Now at this point, she's eighteen, and she tells them

624
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>she's placating them.

625
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll think about it.

626
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But as she's saying that she's putting together an escape plan,

627
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

628
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

629
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, at eighteen, you know, I'm not sure

630
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>if she was ready for her own mission. Impossible, but okay,

631
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 1>at least she's trying to get out of there. Summer

632
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and two, she'd been with them for

633
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, had been abused by elite businessmen.

634
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>She even said an unnamed prime minister left her bloodied

635
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<v Speaker 1>and beaten.

636
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 2>After their encounters.

637
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't give a name though, all of a sudden Obviously,

638
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Prince Andrew denies the sexual accusations. But they wanted to

639
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>use your body as this vessel, and that's when.

640
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>She reached a breaking point, she says.

641
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>So they kept asking her questions, kept promising her this

642
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and that, really laying it on thick. And he said,

643
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I really want you to have our baby, and she

644
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>said she'd heard him talk about this hypothetically. And the

645
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>scary thing was She also heard him talk about seeding

646
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the human race with his DNA, so this proposal was

647
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of shocking to her. Glen said, no, no, no, don't

648
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 1>worry around the clock. Nanny's a mansion in Palm Beach

649
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 1>or New York. Take Palm Beach a grand a month.

650
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 1>That's astronomical. Jesus. Now, guy reads those terms. I don't

651
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 1>want to agree. Where do I sign But for a woman,

652
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>particularly a young girl, that's a hard call. But you know,

653
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 1>basically you're talking about a modern day handmaid have to

654
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 1>sign over a kid to those two people. All the

655
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>legal rights of that kid go to them, and she

656
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>would have to travel with the kid wherever and whenever

657
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Epstein wanted. She'd have to say that she and Epstein

658
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 1>were a couple, though we're not a couple. That was

659
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>very important to him. I don't know why, but and

660
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 1>that the baby would remain with him if we ever

661
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>had a falling out. And she says with perfect clarity

662
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>in her book, I simply knew that I couldn't agree

663
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to that proposal. That said, I also knew I couldn't

664
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>just tell Epstein and Maxwell no, that was too dangerous.

665
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>For the first time in more than two years. I

666
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 1>began actively seeking a way to escape while pretending to

667
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 1>be thinking over their offer. So she agrees eventually on

668
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the condition that they make good on their promise to

669
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>put her through professional masseuse training. Could you imagine this

670
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 1>is a girl whose nightmares began because she was rubbing

671
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein's body and other men. Now try to understand this.

672
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>She's complaining about sex tral abuse. It all began with

673
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the massages, and now to earn a living, she wants

674
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>him to send.

675
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Her through massous school.

676
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm not really up to Doesn't the massages

677
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>bring back awful memories for her? Doesn't you have PTSD whatever?

678
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Some low she has put out? And then a guy

679
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>lays down on his back or stomach. I would think

680
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>that would give her the he begbis to say the least,

681
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 1>But no, I want to learn how to be a

682
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 1>professional at.

683
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>This to what end?

684
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Just because you know how to do happy end things

685
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that should be a career path. Unbelievable. So

686
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Epstein sends her to the International Training Massage School otherwise

687
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 1>known as TMS. I'm kidding in Thailand, ha ha. But

688
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>while she's there, he tells a paying for school, you

689
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 1>still got to recruit girls for me from Thailand. So

690
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 1>her job was still her job. But while she's there,

691
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>she meets her future husband, Robert Chuffrey, and he helps

692
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>her escape and they go on to have three kids. Now, look,

693
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the request was inconceivable for a young kid, of course,

694
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>who had suffered sexual abuse. And you know, it's just

695
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>too much to ask. But those things they offered were

696
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing to think about. But she said, you know,

697
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I'd be endangering another person who would be a helpless child,

698
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and that was a bridge too far.

699
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>All right, good for her, But I gotta tell you,

700
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I wish this shit was going on while I was

701
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 2>a columnist.

702
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I would have made this my main goal. I would

703
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 1>have went to his Caribbean island. I swear I would have. Look, hell,

704
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I've already been to Saint John, Saint Thomas, Virgin Gorda, Trinidad,

705
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and Tobago.

706
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

707
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Caribbean twenty times. I love it

708
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>down there. Love the crystal clear water, the seafood, the

709
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>laid back mentality, the beauty you see as the plane

710
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>is landing.

711
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the gorgeous part of the world as a journalist.

712
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say though, I find it interesting that given

713
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>all the uproar about her mistreatment, it took that to

714
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 1>cause her to leave. It's a lot of holes in

715
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 1>this girl's story I can't figure out. Let me just

716
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>say this before I go deeper and deeper. If she

717
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 1>was so worried about an escape plan, you couldn't you

718
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 1>couldn't request an uber or there was a ober. How

719
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>about a kid. I guess Epstein was wired all over town.

720
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>He would know can't you leave when he's taking a

721
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 1>nap or goes out in the boat as something, walk

722
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>out the door and split. I know it's a small town,

723
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows him. I guess it's hard. Maybe he kept

724
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>her passport.

725
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It a is safe. I don't know. But the problem

726
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>with this book there's nobody asked questions of Epstein.

727
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>He's dead, Maxwell's in prison, and Virginia commits suicide. So

728
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>her timing and her circumstances are unfortunate, to say the least,

729
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 1>because all the information contained in her book is gonna

730
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 1>be hard to corroborate.

731
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Now we hit another fucking dead end with these people.

732
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>He died, Lane's in jail, she ain't talking, and your

733
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 1>face dead.

734
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I hate this the biggest story of our lifetime. Can't

735
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 2>get it any more than we got it. That's it,

736
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 2>it's over.

737
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>But she must have suffered greatly in her life to

738
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>have succumb to the temptations of this prick, and then

739
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to wait so long to write this book.

740
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>But but, but here's what I feel in.

741
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>My heart, as a man with a handful of common

742
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 1>sense that has always served me well.

743
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>How many times did she gladly see Prince Andrew again?

744
00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't in chains.

745
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>She did these things, dare I say, willingly, happily with

746
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a smile on her face.

747
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 2>We've seen her in pictures.

748
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>She's smiling, Ajay, she's forcing a smile. Maybe maybe not.

749
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Her parents didn't discourage her. This girl ran away at fourteen.

750
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 1>She started earlier. She could have run away from Epstein

751
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>or the Prince, but she didn't. So to me, she

752
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>made a choice, and at the end of the day,

753
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>she stuck around as long as she did for money

754
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and travel. So why would I trust that person's word?

755
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And I know a lot of you are gonna say, Aja,

756
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you're faulting a minor and trusting the word of Epstein

757
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 1>in Naxwelle. Why would we trust the judgment of that

758
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of person who does that well, Listen, I am

759
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 1>faulting her.

760
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>She was a bad seat.

761
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Epstein wasn't a criminal, wasn't a piece

762
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>of shit. I'm saying Virginia Giuffrey was willingly complicit in

763
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>that behavior that she knew was wrong, and her being

764
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a miner would mean she shouldn't be penalized as an adult.

765
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't make her an innocent person, you understand,

766
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 1>and at the risk of being brashed, We're not talking

767
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>about a fourteen year old immigrant with a pimp who

768
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>who's threatening her in the street. Virginia Jufley flew. Giuffrey

769
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>flew around the world on private jets, and there were

770
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>those times that her dad dropped her off at an

771
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>airport for a trip to London to see Andrew after

772
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.679
<v Speaker 1>she got that fifteen thousand dollars tip, because she was

773
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>working people. So there are reasons why this woman killed herself.

774
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 1>There were things she did and regretted, and sometimes living

775
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>with regret is more painful than having a ten inch

776
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 1>blade plunged into your ribs. I'm sorry she killed herself.

777
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry she couldn't find peace, but troubled people like

778
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>this are impossible to figure out. And I find it

779
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit crazy to have a two hundred thousand dollars

780
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 1>monthly allowance and yet still want Massu's training. This girl

781
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 1>was a pro before and after. That's all I'll say.

782
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Aja Benson. That was your Daily When Filtered

783
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 1>podcast for October twenty second, twenty twenty five. Now I'm

784
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna make shrimp a reganata.

785
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Woh so easy and delicious. I'll tell you about it tomorrow.

786
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<v Speaker 2>Talk then,