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Speaker 1: Sort of, I mean marginallysa not that much better, but.
Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty tense though.
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Speaker 1: Before we get into the recap of Welcome to Plath, though,
I do have to ask you, Beatrice, do you have
a takeaway?
Speaker 2: My takeaway this week is that Zach is pissing me off. Yeah,
that's it. I'm just like, dude, mind your business, keep
your nose out of everyone else's.
Speaker 1: Stuff, and that small little doll mouth keep that shut.
Speaker 2: Like, just shut up. Stop asking Ethan Plath questions he
obviously doesn't want to answer them. Just let him be
anti social and possibly drunk alone in the corner away
from you. You don't need to be talking about anything
with him.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what that is about.
Speaker 2: I think he has a brush on him.
Speaker 1: Shut up, shut after, you're gonna get travel. But I
can see it. I mean I can totally see someone else.
Speaker 2: I don't know the audacity, like just shut up, mind
your business. Damn.
Speaker 1: My takeaway is that I think teak In sucks. Yeah, right,
which I'm really surprised about because I thought she was
very demure and very sweet last season, especially when she
was being attacked by that demon Veronica, Like she handled
herself well. Yeah, she seemed to compose like a very
lovely young lady. But I don't know. There's just like
some sort of an aura about her, Yeah, some sort
of a vibe. But it seems like she's being punitive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving.
Speaker 1: She's a bitch, it's giving. I'm here to make your
life miserable and van television.
Speaker 2: For sure and get a paycheck.
Speaker 1: So has anybody checked Ethan Plath's Instagram, like, do they
follow one another? You know, pictures between them to verify
whether they're still together in the Year of Our Lord.
Speaker 2: He has not posted anything since August thirtieth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Is that just pinned?
Speaker 2: No, that's his that's his post. Oh my, really has
not been on Instagram since then.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have no way to know what about Teagan.
Let's see Teagan Nikols. No, she's just posted their straps.
Speaker 2: She posted on March twenty ninth, and it's just pictures
of her life being a preppy white girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, it seems like she's moving on with her life,
and certainly the vibration that I was getting in this
episode is like she does not want anything to do
with Ethan, and I can't blame her.
Speaker 2: No, I can't blame her either, but I'm like, don't
be on the show then, and don't be like stringing
him along because he's obviously hopelessly in love with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is, like, oh that's your Oh sorry,
I've got a prayer to Mary. Oh but I actually
already did, so I've got that prayer taken care of.
Like every day at six o'clock, I see my little
prayer of marriage love. Anyway, So, without further ado, let's
get into our recap of Welcome to Plathfill Season eight,
episode six and.
Speaker 2: Tattooed hick mud kiss mugrits.
Speaker 1: Okay, what what is happening? I just don't understand the reason.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean I guess it's like instance,
I guess it's implying like Ethan and Zach, Like maybe
Ethan said that to Zach and maybe got edited out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Make it makes
sense though.
Speaker 2: But it's the middle of November. I guess we're starting
off with Thanksgiving at the Plath family farm. It's the
first Thanksgiving that they're having back at the farm since
Kim blew up the family with her infidelitous divorce infidelitus? Yeah,
is that the word? And unfaithful cheating ass I don't
fucking know. Okay, you're the word expert over here, damn. Anyway,
So after Kim blew up the family by cheating on
Barry with Ken Palmer, we're having Thanksgiving with Ken Palmer
and Barry. Barry is gonna come to the Thanksgiving with the.
Speaker 1: Farmer home and sit at Ken's table, Ken's table to
eat this meal with his family, which is whack. It's
wild business.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I give them props for Kim and
Barry to be able to be cordial for the sake
of the kids and the sake of the family. I
think that that's great. Not many divorced couples can do that,
even half of that, but it's just fucking weird to me.
But anyway, so we have most of the family there,
except for Micah and Mariah because they're out of state
and they obviously don't want to be at Thanksgiving with
the family. I can't say I blame them.
Speaker 1: But can we just pause here because we just watched
the interview with Michelt and Michelty actually got into the
coins how much money the kids received when they filmed
for Sister Wives, And so if we take that equation
and we apply it to the Plath kids, of course
they're all adults.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were getting a ton of money
from TLC, but they were making some money. So, like,
can Micah or Mariah afford not to film?
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably not. I don't think they're making
a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Well what is Micah doing instead? Because my rac houm
brain goes in so many different lurid directions as to
what he might be doing, because maybe he's building fences
in Florida. Sure, yeah, but maybe he's not only fan
and if he is, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, we should subscribe in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: We should describe it. What's Mariah doing? She's probably working
at a.
Speaker 2: Bar, probably, yeah, she's probably bartending.
Speaker 1: But doesn't she need the show?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like I said, like, I don't
think they're making a lot of money, so they probably
don't need it. Like Mikelty Patrone on her podcast was
saying that she was making some money but not enough
to be like an actual job. So well, and it
was filtered through her parents exactly, so it's not like
TLC gave the kids a check. I just I'm just
wondering why they wouldn't be more optimistic about filming the show,
Like why aren't.
Speaker 1: We seeing Micah? I want to know what's happened in
your life Micah.
Speaker 2: Well, I could see why Micah doesn't want to be
on the show because Veronica ruined it for him last
year and made us such a fucking drama, made us
such a stink for the entire family, not just him,
So I could see why he'd be like, let me
just hang out with my girlfriend's slash boyfriend in Florida
and live my best life, you know what I mean?
And Mariah's like, I'm in Montana, so bye. I just
have questions that's all sure, and that's fair and valid.
I'm here to hold space for your questions. But Ethan
is back from Wisconsin. So if you recall last week
he drove in one night to Wisconsin to stock Teegan
in his old man car and to find an apartment
to live next to her. They reunited. It was awkward.
Now he's back. He drove all in one night back
from Wisconsin down to kro He's tired. He's fucking tired.
And if I was him, the last thing I would
want to do is like have my family.
Speaker 1: Ask me, interrogate me, interrogate me.
Speaker 2: Let me just eat my ham and my turkey and
my homemade bread and drink from my thermos. Did you
notice that?
Speaker 1: No, he was.
Speaker 2: Drinking something out of his thermos while everybody else was
drinking that weird green drink that can go.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I did not notice that. So he's a
full blown drinker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, Slash. He's like drinking whiskey
or something in that thermos.
Speaker 1: But was quite a nice spread though. Oh yeah, the
food looked great, the ham looked wonderful. I'm hungry, theigle
smoke turkey. I haven't eaten yet. Today, I should not
have this cocktail. I'm going to fall apart. Just letting
you know.
Speaker 2: One thing we did learn though from the plasts. I
think they may have talked about it in the earlier seasons,
but I was actually surprised to hear it is that
they didn't celebrate any of the holidays, yeah, except for Thanksgiving.
So like they didn't celebrate Christmas, they didn't celebrate Halloween, Easter,
or Valentine's Day for some reason. But Thanksgiving was okay.
And I just if I was a kid in this family,
I would be so bitter about that. I'd be so
fucking bitter.
Speaker 1: It's like they were Jehovah's witnesses.
Speaker 2: I know, it's like weird, where's.
Speaker 1: The joy, where's the fun? But like why Thanksgiving? Though,
probably because it's a nationalistic holiday. It's about Amrouco, right,
so we've got to celebrate. But if it comes to
Christ and Christmas and Easter is Holy Resurrection, that.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't at all.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe because they think that Christmas and Easter are actually
Pegan holidays. Because I know a lot of fundamentalist Christians
won't celebrate because of that.
Speaker 2: I guess that's probably what it is. Yeah, but that's
also lame and like shitty to deprive your kids of that.
Speaker 1: But whatever, it's not fun at.
Speaker 2: All, not fun at all. But Kim talks about when
they did celebrate Thanksgiving as a family, they would actually
rent a beach house and she would make chili for Thanksgiving. Yeah,
which I'm just like, okay, weird. But this year we
have old man one eye, racist Ken Palmer smoking the turkey.
It looked dry to me personally, didn't look like a juicy, delicious.
Speaker 1: Turch just needed some gravy honey.
Speaker 2: And then did you see that they were making canned
cranberry sauce. Yes, I'm just like, you've changed me with
those heathens. Disgusting.
Speaker 1: It doesn't take a lot to just buy the bag
of cranberries.
Speaker 2: And make a delicious cranberry.
Speaker 1: So what in the pot? A little lemon, a little orange,
some sugar. Oh my god, it change a life, It
changes your lies, it does.
Speaker 2: So then we have everybody sitting down having dinner and
talking or whatever, except for Ethan, who is drinking and
eating his ham quietly. We have Kim making comments about
like when are we gonna have little ones at the table,
because you know, we have Isaac and Caitlin who are
back together, Nobody cares. They broke up for literally four days,
another back together, nobody cares. And then we have Lydia
and Zach who are lovebirds, I guess, and Lydia's got
baby fever and Kim senses that, and Kim makes a
comment inappropriately being like, oh, well, you know me and Ken,
we're not out of the race yet. We could have babies.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I took that initially as a joke. Yeah,
because Kim, you are fifty two to fifty three, I
think your fertility is dead and gone. Maybe I know
it's happened before, like there have been medical miracles like
Gordon Ramsay's wife, But I just I don't think that
that's you. So, like I was thinking she was joking, yeah,
But then the further we get into the episode, she
kind of brings it up a couple of games, like
she's serious about it.
Speaker 2: Like what if we could have a baby boy together, Ken,
wouldn't that be great? I would love to give you
a baby boy, Like what.
Speaker 1: Anna's like seventy two or something, he's like literally retired.
I already have grandchildren. I don't want to do any
of that. Are you crazy? Are we looking for storylines?
Is this just a plot? Because I can't believe she's serious.
Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking about it in the context
with you, because you've made jokes like that before too,
like of like, oh, like we could have babies. Ugh,
but like you're obviously joking and not being enterprise obvious though,
why do you want me to explain biology whatever? I'm sorry,
your womb is barren?
Speaker 1: Holy fuck, I don't have a wombre, not anymore.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I could see it from
that context, like maybe Kim was joking, but she did
kept pressing it, and it kind of felt like to me,
she wanted to tell everybody like me and Kenner fucking though,
like nobody needs to know that, nobody needs to visualize that.
I would rather not think about that ever in my life,
and same with your kids.
Speaker 1: I think she does believe she could have a child.
It was definitely giving Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of
New York when she missed her period at fifty four
years of age. She's like, meybe ain't pregnant. No, you
are in menopausa. Honey, how do you not know that?
Speaker 2: That's crazy?
Speaker 1: Why do we have basic health understanding about her own
body's Kim?
Speaker 2: That's literally crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Come back to reality, Kim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're not Gordon Ramsay's wife who has had
two kids now in her fifties. What, yes, bitch, her
and Gordon are fucking still and they've had two kids.
Speaker 1: Was she trying?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I think they were just well, Kim is very fertile,
so you never know when you're gonna have a magical bundle.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's great, but like maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would advice against it, Kim.
Speaker 2: Maybe personally not a wise decision. And so after the
whole like baby discussion, you know, Lydia is obviously got
baby fever. You know, we hear from Zach saying like, well,
there's like some logistical things that we have to figure
out before we have a baby, Like you know, I
have to get hard. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was thinking I have to get a real job.
Speaker 2: That too, I have to have a real career.
Speaker 1: I have to be able to support myself starting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I have to be able to come in.
Speaker 1: You are so terrible.
Speaker 2: I have to be crazy because this episode was kind
of boring, especially in the beginning. Yeah, and so after dinner,
everybody goes to clean up, and then we have this
really awkward conversation between Zach and Ethan. So Ethan is
sitting by himself like a drunk, and he's angry, he's tired,
he's brooding. Okay, he's obviously wanting to be by himself.
Then we have Zach and Lydia like inserting themselves into
Ethan's alone time, and Zach in particular is like wanting
to interrogate Ethan about his move to Wisconsin, and I'm
just like, dude, it's not your fucking business. So I
don't know what we're doing here. But he's like asking
him all of these like detailed questions like when are
you going to move up there? What are your plans
with Teacan? Are you guys going to get back together,
do you have a job lined up? What are your
plans for the future, what does your future look like
with Teacan?
Speaker 1: Like, dude, yeah, it was a lot. Barry was there
as well, and Barry was like, a, you know, maybe
he doesn't want to hear your questions, maybe now isn't
the right time, but he says that to the camera.
He doesn't in the moment advocate for Ethan and say, hey,
maybe stop asking these questions. Like I wouldn't have minded
that as much if it were just Lydia, or even
if Zach was there and Lydia was asking. Yeah, but
having Zach this newcomer to the family, and I assume
he's younger than Ethan.
Speaker 2: He is younger.
Speaker 1: He certainly has never been married for years like Ethan,
like to have this newcomer presumed to interrogate me about
what my intentions are, like why and.
Speaker 2: Then like ask why like personal questions. He's like, well,
why did you guys break up? What led to the separation?
Like is that really your fucking business?
Speaker 1: Though? So is production putting Zach up to this? This
is the question that I had for myself. Is it
like TLC, is it for a storyline or is this
just who Zach is. I think we're going to learn
more as the episodes go on, like the nature and
the character of Zach. But like it was really icky, yeah,
and it was also very prideful. And I actually texted Beatrice,
I'm like it's giving. He wants to be a pastor totally,
or he wants to be in ministry and he wants
to counsel men. Yes, I wonder why.
Speaker 3: Council men or something like that, But I mean it
was just giving, like he was trying to take this
pious position over Ethan and Ethan like Ethan could handle
one question, yeah, but then you had a second question
and a third question and you could just see Ethan's.
Speaker 1: Face get red. Yeah, his blood pressure is going up,
and Zach's not reading any of these cues, and I'm
just like.
Speaker 2: Stop, back off, obvious, what are you doing well? And
you have like multiple members of the family like talking
to the camera being like, yeah, you know, we don't
press Ethan on these kinds of things, like Barry being like, yeah,
Ethan's obviously in a mood like maybe don't talk to him. Zach, like,
let's maybe hold off on the questions. Like you have
these other people in the family that are typically not
super socially aware, but they're aware and to like deal
with Ethan, and they're looking at Zach being like, dude,
maybe let's hold off. So to me, it felt like
Zach's got some audacity. I think you're right. He does
want to be like a pastor and wants to counsel
men totally on this kind of stuff, and he wants
to like come from this religious authority. And I think, like,
if we're to believe what we saw in the preview
last week about how Lydia and Zach are apparently going
to people in the family and lecturing them on being
godly enough and making correct choices, like I could totally
see Zach inserting himself to the family like I'm this
religious authority, like get out of here.
Speaker 1: And a marriage authority. Yeah, I've been literally married for
six months for real, and you're going to presume to
tell somebody else how to be in a relationship or
you're going to be worried about them like with all
of your worldly experience with vaginas. I'm not buying it, honey,
I'm not trying that.
Speaker 2: Like get out of here. But I will say, to
Ethan's credit, he did try to answer his questions to
the best of his ability without getting super.
Speaker 1: Frustrated in a sort of monosyllabic Neanderthal way.
Speaker 2: Totally, but like he wasn't being outwardly like fuck you
zag like he wasn't being as mean as he probably
could have been. Yes, then we shift gears entirely and
we have Barry Amber and Mercy going bigfoot hunting.
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? So not last season, but
the season before when they went to that street carnival
and they tried to dunk Kim or whatever. This is
the same sort of a vibration. Yeah, like this is
just manufactured content that you think is going to be
entertaining it and it is not.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Having said that, I do believe in Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: I was on a walk today for like an hour
and a half because I'm an athlete.
Speaker 2: Were you searching for Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: I was searching, but it was kind of like out
in the forested areas and I'm just like listening for
like the rustling of the league, the tree knocks, stuff,
for the tree knocks, for the language that Barry was
talking about. But I got nothing. But I can understand.
I can understand being interested in Bigfoot or whatever, but like,
why are we putting this in the show.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cringey. I was laughing at the Bigfoot Tour
guide because he's got this big old.
Speaker 1: DC Stacy, the bigfoot guy.
Speaker 2: God Beard, he's got the singing bowl. I laughed audibly,
like I was laughing hard when he did the Bigfoot call,
because I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: In all seriousness, like this, this is his purpose on the
planet is to do the bigfoot call.
Speaker 2: And he wanted the Blass to do it, and they're like, no, sorry,
not gonna do that. But I thought, I mean, it
was just boring content, like it's just manufactured. The only
thing that was interesting about this is when they're going
bigfoot hunting, we pivot on over to the Plath family
farm where Kim Ken and Cassia are baking cookies, and
then we have this like ridiculous comment from Kim saying like,
oh yeah, you know, like Berry's into a lot of
weird shit, just like Bigfoot, and like he's gonna have
a hard time. I need a woman who's also into
that weird shit. But like, good luck, you know, God bless,
you'll probably find somebody eventually. I'm like, girl, just taking.
Speaker 1: Swipes, Like why are you gonna be like that? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's because she's jealous because you got jacked, you think so? Yeah,
I think so. And like he's living his best life
and he's working on himself. And she's bitter because now
she's stuck with a one eyed racist.
Speaker 1: And all of her children prefer Barry. It's not like
they're not coming along and having a better relationship with her,
but they definitely prefer Barry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think she's bitter. But I'm just like,
you don't need to be like that, because I'm sure
there's gonna be somebody who's gonna be into Berry and
all of his weird cookiness. I know that we can't relate.
I know a lot of people can't relate, but there
is somebody for everybody. And you don't got to be critical,
miss thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, over for you over there being critical of Barry.
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna talk, and then you're gonna have
a conversation while you're baking cookies with your one of
your younger daughters right there talking about having a baby
with this one eyed racist like please.
Speaker 1: Who says very directly, you know, if she had child,
that'd be great, but I really hope that she doesn't
because I don't want a child. Yeah, why are you
talking about children? I am an I'm a literal old actually, Yeah, aarp.
I'm probably getting some social security already. Like I'm old,
I'm old as fuck, I'm a thuselog. Why are we
talking about siring a child? But like Kim, I think
is actually attached to this idea of this her being
like a fertile queen, being like a mom in her femininity. Yeah,
I canna give you babies, honey. He's like, I don't
want babies with you. I just want you to subsidize
my entire life. I want to live on your farm.
I want to eat the food that you buy. I
want you to take care of me. I don't want
to take care of a child.
Speaker 2: Fuck. No. Well, and he does make a comment too
that he thinks that Kim thinks that having a baby
with him would bring them closer, but it actually wouldn't.
Speaker 1: That was interesting.
Speaker 2: That was an interesting comment from him. I'm like, oh,
so you guys aren't close, And I'm I'm sure we'll
find out why in the later season.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because, as we saw in the preview, he's
not approving of her body. Yeah, which is all I'm
gonna say.
Speaker 2: That's all we'll say.
Speaker 1: This is all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 2: And I will say for Kim, I could understand like
why she's attached to this whole like baby making thing
because that was her whole life, right, Like she had
ten children over the course of thirty years or whatever,
like that was literally all she had and like her
whole purpose. I don't want to say that that was
her purpose as a woman, but like in this arrangement
that she had with Barry, like she was the homemaker,
she was the mom's like I guess I could see it.
But also like read the room, you're old, you don't
need to be having a baby. It's fine, you can
live your life with your juicer and you're one eyed racist.
Speaker 1: But it's also uncomfy to hear the conversation when you're
a Cassie and you're just trying to make chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Can we just make cookies?
Speaker 2: Mom, Like, we don't need to talk about your sex life. Mom. Yeah,
I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: Yes it is gross, Yes it is gross. It is gross.
Speaker 2: And so after that stupid segment, then we go go
over to Isaac and Ethan. Isaac is waiting for Ethan
to have lunch, and Ethan is forty fucking minutes late.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to punch that guy.
Speaker 2: I was like so mad. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 2: And Ethan watts on over and there he's like, oh, sorry,
I'm late or whatever. I had a phone call with
my attorney, Like dude. M Isaac even said like, I'm
pissed off at you, dude, like I've been waiting here
like all this time.
Speaker 1: You kind of told me late people. Well, it is
so disrespectful. It feels like you don't think my time
is as valuable as your time. It also feels like
you need to be the main character sweeping into the
room that everybody looks up and season. It is very
conceited and also rude.
Speaker 2: It's so rude.
Speaker 1: If you're somebody who's late in my life, I am
facing you the fuck out. I'm too old to be
waiting around in a diner for your dumb ass.
Speaker 2: No for real. It's like so inconsiderate and like the
fact that he couldn't even like message Isaac and be
like sorry, I'm gonna be late, Like no, he just
waltz in and he expects Isaac to be understanding of
the fact that he was on a forty minute phone call,
I guess with his lawyer to talk about his divorce
with Olivia.
Speaker 1: And I want that for you. I want you to
have the conversations about the divorce. But like you knew,
you were supposed to not just show up for Isaac.
You're showing up to film something. This is your literal job. Yeah,
you're supposed to be there to do your job, but
you feel like you're in power to just mosey on
in forty five minutes late, Honey, I would have been
reading him the Riot Act.
Speaker 2: That is so rude. But once he finally arrives and
they get their food, then we have a discussion about
Ethan and Teagan. And Isaac is coming from a protective
brother standpoint, like he's worried about Ethan. He doesn't want
to see Ethan get hurt again. And I think the
writing is on the wall for literally everybody, like Teagan
is going to break Ethan's heart again. He is hopelessly,
so hopelessly in love with Teagan and thinks that by
making this big move he's gonna win her back.
Speaker 1: I don't he says, a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there really isn't a chance. It doesn't see
does seem like it at all, and everyone is sensing it,
and I think they're all worried for Ethan, but you know,
Isaac is being supportive and he's just like, well, you know,
like I love you or whatever. And then they talk
about the Montana trip that we'll see at the end
of the episode and probably into next week that I
guess Teagan is going to go to Montana with the
rest of the family. Why I don't understand. And then
we go back to the Plath family farm where we
have Lydia and Zach and like this little segment, I
guess they've been staying with Kim during the Thanksgiving celebrations
or whatever. They talk about how Kim is a good host,
but that their relationship with her and every interaction that
they have with her is very sur level because I
guess she talks shit behind their backs.
Speaker 1: Well, he comes out and says that it's Zach, it's
not Lydia, Like I just feel like if I heard
that from Lydia, that it was an actual concern of
hers that while she's there, her mother's going to be
gossiping about her, Like I would respect that and I'd
be concerned for her, but like hearing it from Zach,
it's just not his place to talk about his wife's
mother yet. Like maybe in ten years, right, fifteen years,
you've seen some shit or whatever about Kim Plath, then
you can speak on it. But you've literally only been
in this family for six months and you're talking about
her mom. Yeah, camera on camera, that's the thing which
she's going to see.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I was just like the audacity of that kid.
Speaker 2: The audacity of it all. And like, so you're going
to talk about how Kim talks behind everybody's backs, and
then in the next breath, you're going to talk about
Ethan behind his back and about how he is making
decisions when he's in a bad place and you guys
are worried about him and you're worried about his future
and you feel the need to talk to him. But
we're gonna have Zach talk to him, because you know,
bro to bro, We're going to talk to him, Like, no, dude,
I have no doubt that Lydia and Zach are also
talking about the rest of the family behind their backs,
of course.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, and that's fine within the confines
of the marriage, but Yeah, you're going to actually approach
Ethan and you're going to try and have a conversation
with him.
Speaker 2: He's going to try and counsel him on his decisions.
Speaker 1: Well, I just have questions, is what he says, Like,
I just want to know, like why you think that
this is the right thing for you to do. And
I just want to know, Beatrice and Delia just want
to know, like why you give a shit No for real,
pay attention to your wife and her pussy and stuff,
Get a fucking job and take care of your own life.
Be a good steward of your own life before you
come checking for Ethan. And I'm not an Ethan fan, no,
and obviously Ethan is crazy, Yeah, but like I don't
need you, Zach with your little doll mouth, you little
fucking fish mouth, coming in to ask Ethan about his
love life. It's weird. It's weirdo behavior.
Speaker 2: It's really odd to me. And so then we transition
to the next segment where Ethan is fixing up one
of his old man cars because I guess he's gonna
go back up to Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: It's the New Yorker, it's the same New Yorker, and.
Speaker 2: So he's gonna fix it up, change the oil or whatever,
and Zach is allegedly going to help out with the
car stuff, okay, and Zach frames it as I'm gonna
help him out fix the car, and then he goes
and shows up there in a white shirt, a white
sweatshirt and with his little doll hands, and he like
doesn't know anything about cars, and then he admits to
that on camera and he's like, I actually don't know
how to be a man. I don't know how to
do it.
Speaker 1: You don't say what a shock.
Speaker 2: And then Ethan is just like, Okay, I guess we
will do this on camera and I'll fix my cars.
And I think Ethan is thinking, like, I'll film this
scene with this weirdo, and as long as I can
fix my cars and not really have to interact with anybody,
I'll be fine and I'll tolerate it. Mm hmmm. And
Ethan even says to the camera, I'm actually very irritated.
I'm super mad, I'm frustrated, but I'm trying not to
let it come to the surface. I'm trying to just
be cordial and nice and answer all of his dumb
fucking questions. But Zach comes in hot, like he's like
asking him about the relationship with Teagan again, asking him
about how he spent all of this money on Teagan
and you didn't get anything in return, So are you
worried about that when you go to Wisconsin? Like the
audacity of you.
Speaker 1: And with like such an inability to read social cues
or feedback from somebody, like you can't tell when Ethan's
entire face is tomato red and you know his muscles
are bulging because he wants to hit you so bad
because you're overstepping, Like you can't read that in the room.
It's kind of speaking to how sheltered Zach actually is.
First of all, that you would ask these kind of
questions in a social context of somebody that you really
don't know. And Ethan says that a couple of time times,
like I don't even talk about this shit with my brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He speaks to how little you know about life that
you would think that that was okay to ask the
questions and then to expect some kind of an answer,
Like you aren't owed an answer, dude, not at all.
Speaker 2: It felt very entitled to me, like he felt entitled
to not only ask these questions of Ethan, but he
felt entitled for Ethan to answer them honestly and to
give him these detailed answers about his life. It's like,
these are very personal questions that you're asking about not
only his life, but his relationship that has ended and
ended in a pretty terrible way. Ethan is obviously depressed
about it. Maybe you shouldn't ask him about it.
Speaker 1: Chill out a little bit, maybe like say, hey, you
want to go get a beer. Yeah, let's talk about cars,
teach me about cars. Yeah, let's watch a game or whatever. Right,
meet him on the playing field of his life, spend
time with him. Don't try to like immediately go right
for the jugular and figure out, like what are you doing, dude? Yeah,
why are you so in love with this girl? Why
are you giving her all your money? And do it
on camera? No, Yeah, Ethan is so uncomfy.
Speaker 2: He's so uncomfy. And I just felt like it was
super weird, this whole interaction. I felt very tense like
watching it because it just felt like Ethan was put
in a hard spot and like, obviously we know from
last season, Ethan made a complete ass out of himself
at the night before Zach and Lydia's wedding where he
was asking Zach questions about being gay.
Speaker 1: And then the day of the wedding when he's doing
furious push ups exactly and throwing tables around like he
was very frustrated.
Speaker 2: So he's taking an ass out of himself. And I
think that Ethan is self aware enough to know that
that was bad last year, that he was a jerk,
and so now he's like really trying to be calm enough.
I mean, it's Ethan. He's tomato red, so he's obviously
fuming underneath everything, but like he's trying to be calm
and not tell him to fuck off.
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty gracious, he was he was like
laughing a little bit. He was being for Ethan somewhat
kind and accommodating. But still you could be Stevie Wonder
and see that Ethan was not happy with this conversation.
That's not how you connect with somebody and former relationship.
But Zach doesn't know that because either Zach is being
put up to this by production so he feels like
he has to do it because it's his job, or
Zach just hasn't had enough life experience to realize when
like you are definitely doing too much and people aren't
happy with you.
Speaker 2: My vibe with it was that Zach felt like he
was entitled to ask these questions. I think Zach from
his perspective, is like, well, I'm married Lydia now, so
now I'm part of the family, so therefore I am
entitled to call you guys out on your bullshit. I'm
going to tell you when you're not godly enough because
I'm a very godly man and I'm straight, and I'm
married to a woman who's also very godly, and I'm
going to ask you personal questions about your life because
you know I'm concerned and you know I'm coming from
a godly perspective.
Speaker 1: That's what Jesus would do exactly, ask about your relationship,
ordicating relationship with your a friends.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's I just I didn't appreciate it at all.
I will say it was refreshing to hear Ethan kind
of talk about his relationship with Teagan in the sense
of like things go both ways, like because Zach had
said a comment about how Ethan was giving so much
to Teagan and not getting a lot back in return,
and this upset Ethan because he's like, you know, I'm
a man, I'm gonna give her whatever she needs. I'm
gonna provide things for her. I'm gonna pay for things
for her and her daughter because I want to, because
I'm in a relationship with her. I'm not doing it
because I feel like she wants me to. So relationships
go both ways. So I did appreciate that he was
kind of defending that aspect, and I also appreciated that
he kind of sort of took a little bit of
ownership for the fact that, like he was telling Teagan
a million times he's gonna move up there and then
never did anything about it, and so this kind of
contributed to the demise of his relationship.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that again, the impulse that Zach
is demonstrating, like, hey man, I'm concerned about you. You
seem to be giving this girl a lot of money.
You seem to be like doing a lot for this
girl or whatever. Like I I think that's a good impulse.
It just should have been coming from Lydia. Yeah, because
last season we had Ethan confronting Lydia and asking her
like isn't this pretty soon? Like are you sure you
want to be doing this, so that's appropriate for their relationship.
It is completely inappropriate for the relationship that Ethan has
with Zach. But yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think you're right about that. Like, I think this would
have been more of an appropriate conversation to have with
Ethan and one of his siblings, yeah, or even Ethan
and one of his parents. But to have it come
from a new spouse, like a spouse that hasn't even
been established in the family for many.
Speaker 1: Years, your entire aura is judgmental.
Speaker 2: Totally judgmental. Like, it's so inappropriate for him to even
try and talk to Ethan about all of this, Like,
I don't understand why he thinks this was okay in
any regard either. It's bizarre.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I am very excited to see the journey.
I'm wondering if at some point we have Ethan saying,
shut the fuck up, dude. I hope, so the fuck
do you think you are?
Speaker 2: I hope so, because that's what he deserves, because I
was wanted to say that during this episode. I'm like Zach,
and don't get.
Speaker 1: Me wrong, like somebody needs to call Ethan out. For sure,
that has to happen. But I don't think this is
the messenger.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: No, no way at all. And then the last segment
that we have of the episode is Ethan and Teagan
arriving in Montana. So a bunch of the siblings. I
don't think him and Barrier there, it's just the older siblings,
nor Lydia and Zach. Yeah, Lydia and Zach are not
going to be there. A bunch of the older siblings
are taking a trip to Montana, mainly to visit Mariah,
but also to like just spend time together. And Teagan
was invited. She up until this point wasn't sure if
she was going to come, because you know, Teagan and
Ethan are broken up and she hates him, she's disgusted
by him. But she decided to come, and we see
them in Montana. They're at the lodge. They have had
a hellish day of travel, a bunch of missed flights,
delays and whatever, and then an hour drive to the lodge.
So Teagan's already in a bad mood. Ethan looks kind
of like in a bad mood. He looks kind of.
Speaker 1: Sad, although he's like, actually, I really appreciated being able
to drive from the airport to the lodge, we had
an hour in the car, Like it was like old times,
there was distance, but you know, it was nice to
be around her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says that multiple times in the episode,
like he's like, it was great that I got to
spend so much time traveling with you and spend so
much time with you in general. And Tigan's like why,
Like you.
Speaker 1: Just look at her face. She's obviously got the ick. Yeah,
Like she is not feeling Ethan that she's either got
the ick or again she's punishing him, like she really
wants to make him pay. And when we get to
the previews, we see sort of a snapshot of why
that might be, like what he did to cause this,
but like she is just not happy. No, she's not
enamored of Ethan. She does not care that he wants
to be in a relationship with her or share her room. Yeah,
because she insisted upon a separate hotel room.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when they get to the lodge, it had
been set up in a way where Ethan and Tiagan
we're gonna be sharing a room. So they have all
these couplely things. They have little matching robes and slippers
and couples gifts and stuff like that and little notes,
and Ethan is dropping her stuff off in this room
because he's gonna go sleep in a separate room, and
Teagan is very frank to say to the camera like, yeah,
we're not gonna be sharing a room because we're not
a couple. We are just friends. And you can see
how sad this makes Ethan. And Ethan even says like
it's emotional bringing her stuff into this room that we
were going to share, because you know, I wish that
things were different. And Ethan was very careful to say, like,
it's okay that we're not sharing rooms, but obviously I
wish it was different, because you know, I love her
and whatever, and I want to bang her, but circumstances
are not like that right now. And then we have
this like little interview with Ethan and Teagan where production
is asking them, like, you know, are you guys just friends?
Is there a chance for romance in the future, And
Teagan seems like surprised by this, and it's just like, well, like, yeah,
we're friends right now, but like I don't know what
the future holds. What do you think, Ethan?
Speaker 1: Well, and here was where I was trying to determine
whether she was just being punitive because he's just staring
at her. Yeah, Like he doesn't want to answer the
producer and tell the producer what he wants, what he
is hopeful for, but he's just looking at her with
all the yearning and the angst of a top tier
romance not and she sees him. Yeah, like you can't
be a woman and not understand what that look means. Yeah,
that man wants you, top of your head, down of
the tippy toes. That man wants you. You know that
he wants you, and you're still gonna play the game
that you're like what, we're just friends, right, Yeah, what's
the problem? What are you sad about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: She knows what he's sad about well, and.
Speaker 2: Then she's quick to say too, like, I know that
he's sad, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: But in the moment he actually confesses his loved people, like,
what are you so sad about? And he says something
like and I'm paraphrasing because I can't be arsed to remember,
but like I just really want to be with you
and I love you, and I'm here because I really
hope that we can rekindle our shit and she's just like, yeah,
I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't give a fuck. I don't care at all.
Speaker 1: And then to the camera she's like, yeah, I know
he's sad, but like whatever, yikes, So are you playing games? Teagan?
Do you really not care? Because if you didn't care,
why are you here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't show up to some family trip to Montana.
Maybe she's getting paid. Maybe it's for the fame, maybe
it's for the clout. But like if it's not that, like,
why are we here though? Other than to make that
man grovel? I do love a groveling man. I gotta
say I love a I'm in my day hondy. I've
had some groveling man order. And I don't want to
make men feel bad. Well, sometimes they have to. They've
been bad boys for Yeah, you've been a bad boy.
Speaker 2: God, I can't with you.
Speaker 1: You better gravel hood, dude.
Speaker 2: Look, And in certain circumstances I could totally see it,
like if Ethan was a cheater, for example, like yeah,
you should fucking gravel you bitch, you fucking cheating ass
ho sure beg for me to come back. Okay, I
get it, But like I don't know what the context
of their breakup was, Like, I don't know what happened really,
And like, obviously you can tell Ethan is earnest and
I know he's a shithead, and I know he's an asshole,
and I know we don't like him, but you can
tell he is totally smitten for her. He wants her back,
he is moving back to Wisconsin for her, He's doing
all this stuff for her. So for her to be
so dismissive of it and for her to be so mean,
like and just be like, what, we're friends, right, are
you okay with that? Like Ethan obviously not okay with that.
Speaker 1: There's something that's very delicious about that, and we kind
of love a moment where the woman has the power dynamic. Sure,
but there's also something that's that's sad about it. But
I do want to ask a question of you and
everybody else, certainly drop in the comments if you're watching
on YouTube, Like, say, she takes him back, okay, and
she makes a decision that she's going to enter into
a relationship with Ethan once he moves to Wisconsin. Do
we think Ethan can maintain this level of attentiveness and
desiring her and being present in their relationship. Or do
we think that the moment Ethan is back in her life,
has weaseled his way back into life. Do we think
that he's just going to regress into the crow magnan
man who's stuck underneath a hood and who can't communicate
and will be unable to give her what she wants?
What do we think?
Speaker 2: It's hard for me because I think that everybody has
the capacity to change, Like everybody has the capacity to grow. Yeah,
and he is so young, and he does have a
lot of growing up to do, and like he could
mature into a really respectful man. Sure he could, there's
a potential for that. But with Ethan Plath, it's hard
because he hasn't really had a good track record, and
he hasn't had a good track record in relationships with
women who have been kind to him obviously, like with Olivia,
like their relationship was messy and everything, but like he
had his part to play in that too, Like he
had a part to play in the destruction of the marriage,
and he is aware of that, at least he has
said that on the show. But with Tiegan, I feel
like it's one of those situations where it's like too little,
too late. He probably pushed it too far. He could
have moved with her a couple months ago before the
breakup and they would have been able to salvage their relationship.
But he pushed it and pushed it and pushed it
because he's fucking stubborn.
Speaker 1: And he's selfish, and he's selfish, and he's not interested
in his personal development and growth. Like we don't see
Ethan Plath and therapy. No, I can't even imagine that
he would ever go to therapy, but like that is
what he needs in order to learn how to express yourself. Yeah, that,
and to learn how to show up in relationships in
a productive way.
Speaker 2: And I can again have sympathy for it because he
doesn't really have a healthy model of what a healthy
relationship looks like. His parent's obviously fucking divorced after thirty years,
and so you know, he doesn't have a framework, He
doesn't have a foundation really to lay himself on and
to build his life on. So he is kind of
like in open water right now, and he doesn't really
know how to be a human being, let alone a
human being, and.
Speaker 1: He's trying, and I do like your word earnest ye,
Like I think he's earnestly trying and so for like
a guy like that, if you have a little bit
of hope to be in a relationship with him, like
you should just give him a little bit of a bone.
Speaker 2: And I do think that there is something to the
idea that a woman can change a man. I'm not
saying that women should, but I'm just saying, like a woman, oh, yes,
can you know, change a man to be a better man?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, through yes love and through the punani. I think
like there's a potential for that too, Like Teagan could
be that for Ethan and change him into a better
man because he would want to be a better man
for her. And I think that he is trying to
demonstrate that, like trying to be like, look, I'm trying
to change my life a little bit. I'm going to
move for you. I'm gonna meet you where you're at,
and I'm okay with being friends right now. Obviously I
hope that there will be more, but I don't think
Teagan wants that. I feel like she's been fucking other people.
Speaker 1: I do too, actually do too. I think that she
may want that, though, what what do you mean a
relationship with him. I think that she's I think she's
probably putting him through the ringer so that she can
pay him back for something that he did to her.
And then we get to the preview, yes, and we
learn about something that Ethan did to her which kind
of just shut her down completely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to get more context into that, but
we have the preview. We have very talk about Bigfoot audio.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I do not care.
Speaker 2: He talking about it with like one of his daughter's
friends or something. It looks like, what are we doing? Dad?
Please stop? There's audio of Bigfoot and other dimensions in
a different way.
Speaker 1: I've actually heard that.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know he's talking about the Sierra Sounds. I know
exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: You would be Berry's dream girl.
Speaker 1: Which I really would, I really would.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then we have Teagan in Montana.
She's being very obviously distant from Ethan. It's actually uncomfortable
how distant she is being. We have other siblings.
Speaker 1: Can you hear that he's trying to get up? He's fat,
He's so fat.
Speaker 2: He's an English mast if. He's very sweet though. Anyway,
So we have Tagan being distant from Ethan in Montana.
We have other siblings commenting on this, how uncomfortable it is.
It's very weird. Kaylin in particular, which I love her too,
she call out she's so based. She's like, you know,
why are you even on this trip if you're not
going to make any kind of effort to be in
a relationship with Ethan Because obvious, it's obvious to everybody
that Ethan is doing this to try and get back
together with you. Why are you here if that is
not your interest. And then we have Teagan saying to
the camera that the straw that broke the camel's back
with her relationship with Ethan was that she came to
visit him for his birthday or celebrate his birthday, and
he was acting super weird. And then we hear from
Ethan saying that when he was looking at Teagan, all
he could see was Olivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yikes, So something happened. Teagan came down for his birthday.
He's a Taurus like me, and he ignored her. He
was not nice to her. He was Ethan being Ethan.
And then from his perspective, he kept looking at her
and she was reminding him of Olivia. Just hold on
for one second.
Speaker 2: Gosh, my gosh, boom.
Speaker 1: So that is gotta hurt. I wonder if you said
that to her in the moment.
Speaker 2: He probably did, and he was triggered. And you know
something I've learned through being in therapy, Ethan, go to
fucking therapy therapy, God, is like a lot of the
time people can't identify what their triggers actually are. They
just feel it and they don't know that they're being triggered.
And so obviously Ethan was triggered by something that Teagan
did or said, and you know, cro magnet uga boga,
he can't communicate it, and so he just reacted from it.
And obviously he reacted in a way that hurt Teagan
to the point of breaking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2: Would like more details on that.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get them. I would love that, but I'm
not gonna hold out hope. I know we're not gonna
get kind of a let down of a season, this
episode was a little bit better. It was better than
I liked seeing Teakan. Yeah, she obviously has a bit
of a grudge and I want to learn about it
me too. We want to know more, and Zach is
very I hate him. Zach is so gross. I really
don't like him, so I want to see more of that.
I want somebody to put him in his place. So
I am invested. I'm into it. Yes, let us know
how you guys feel about this season so far. Now,
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