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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV the podcast. I am

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one of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my

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real tight homegirl and my daughter in law, the quintussentually lovely.

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Speaker 2: That's me.

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Speaker 1: So we are here to have our continuing conversation about

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Welcome to platform.

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Speaker 2: And thank god this episode was better than last week.

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Speaker 1: Sort of, I mean marginallysa not that much better, but.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty tense though.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like the minutes of my

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life are worth something and I'm throwing them away watching

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the show when i't watch them and drive one.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to call for bigot, You don't want

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to go in a forest?

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Speaker 1: What makes you think I haven't already done that. We'll

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talk about it when we get there. You know how

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many singing balls? I know I've got all of the

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chakras booch. Anyway, before we get into our recap, we

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do have to warn you, honey, plates had your wife

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and hide your kids because Nana No has got a

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switch and she's coming for them. Because we're in a

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reverent podcast, obviously we say stupid things. We are often vulgar,

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We have dumb opinions. We make fun of ourselves and others.

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I do have to say, we can't do that a lot. Yeah,

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and so we have here.

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Speaker 2: This is not for you, honey, boo boom.

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Speaker 1: You might want to find yourself another dumpster, but if

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you're ready to pack a bag and go to Montana,

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then welcome to this dumpster.

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Speaker 1: Uh interview interview on cult subconsciousness. Yeah, the podcast, thanks

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for clarifying. That was actually really fun.

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Speaker 2: It was actually good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good interview and we're gonna be putting it

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up this week on Fridays, so definitely get over there

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and check it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you were watching on YouTube, please not forget

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Speaker 2: Please hype us up.

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Speaker 1: We need the hype if you can spare it because

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everything you do helps us in the algorithm, So.

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Speaker 2: Thank you in advance. Also, did we we're at six thousand?

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we're at six thousand, bitch.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Fin it took us like four years.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Let me have a little drink keeper

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and celebration of this huge, this monumental six thousand on YouTube?

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Speaker 2: Bit do we get a plaque?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a star? How exciting? Thanks everybody. I truly

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appreciate all of your support.

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Speaker 2: About damn time. Now.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the recap of Welcome to Plath, though,

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I do have to ask you, Beatrice, do you have

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a takeaway?

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Speaker 2: My takeaway this week is that Zach is pissing me off. Yeah,

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that's it. I'm just like, dude, mind your business, keep

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your nose out of everyone else's.

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Speaker 1: Stuff, and that small little doll mouth keep that shut.

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Speaker 2: Like, just shut up. Stop asking Ethan Plath questions he

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obviously doesn't want to answer them. Just let him be

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anti social and possibly drunk alone in the corner away

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from you. You don't need to be talking about anything

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with him.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what that is about.

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Speaker 2: I think he has a brush on him.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, shut after, you're gonna get travel. But I

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can see it. I mean I can totally see someone else.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the audacity, like just shut up, mind

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your business. Damn.

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Speaker 1: My takeaway is that I think teak In sucks. Yeah, right,

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which I'm really surprised about because I thought she was

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very demure and very sweet last season, especially when she

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was being attacked by that demon Veronica, Like she handled

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herself well. Yeah, she seemed to compose like a very

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lovely young lady. But I don't know. There's just like

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some sort of an aura about her, Yeah, some sort

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of a vibe. But it seems like she's being punitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving.

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Speaker 1: She's a bitch, it's giving. I'm here to make your

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life miserable and van television.

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Speaker 2: For sure and get a paycheck.

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Speaker 1: So has anybody checked Ethan Plath's Instagram, like, do they

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follow one another? You know, pictures between them to verify

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whether they're still together in the Year of Our Lord.

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Speaker 2: He has not posted anything since August thirtieth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Is that just pinned?

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Speaker 2: No, that's his that's his post. Oh my, really has

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we have no way to know what about Teagan.

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Let's see Teagan Nikols. No, she's just posted their straps.

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Speaker 2: She posted on March twenty ninth, and it's just pictures

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of her life being a preppy white girl.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, it seems like she's moving on with her life,

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and certainly the vibration that I was getting in this

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episode is like she does not want anything to do

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with Ethan, and I can't blame her.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't blame her either, but I'm like, don't

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be on the show then, and don't be like stringing

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him along because he's obviously hopelessly in love with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is, like, oh that's your Oh sorry,

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I've got a prayer to Mary. Oh but I actually

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already did, so I've got that prayer taken care of.

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Like every day at six o'clock, I see my little

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prayer of marriage love. Anyway, So, without further ado, let's

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get into our recap of Welcome to Plathfill Season eight,

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episode six and.

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Speaker 2: Tattooed hick mud kiss mugrits.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what what is happening? I just don't understand the reason.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean I guess it's like instance,

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I guess it's implying like Ethan and Zach, Like maybe

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Ethan said that to Zach and maybe got edited out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Make it makes

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sense though.

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Speaker 2: But it's the middle of November. I guess we're starting

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off with Thanksgiving at the Plath family farm. It's the

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first Thanksgiving that they're having back at the farm since

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Kim blew up the family with her infidelitous divorce infidelitus? Yeah,

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is that the word? And unfaithful cheating ass I don't

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fucking know. Okay, you're the word expert over here, damn. Anyway,

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So after Kim blew up the family by cheating on

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Barry with Ken Palmer, we're having Thanksgiving with Ken Palmer

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and Barry. Barry is gonna come to the Thanksgiving with the.

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Speaker 1: Farmer home and sit at Ken's table, Ken's table to

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eat this meal with his family, which is whack. It's

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wild business.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. I give them props for Kim and

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Barry to be able to be cordial for the sake

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of the kids and the sake of the family. I

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think that that's great. Not many divorced couples can do that,

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even half of that, but it's just fucking weird to me.

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But anyway, so we have most of the family there,

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except for Micah and Mariah because they're out of state

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and they obviously don't want to be at Thanksgiving with

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the family. I can't say I blame them.

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Speaker 1: But can we just pause here because we just watched

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the interview with Michelt and Michelty actually got into the

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coins how much money the kids received when they filmed

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for Sister Wives, And so if we take that equation

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and we apply it to the Plath kids, of course

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they're all adults.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were getting a ton of money

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from TLC, but they were making some money. So, like,

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can Micah or Mariah afford not to film?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, probably not. I don't think they're making

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Speaker 1: Well what is Micah doing instead? Because my rac houm

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brain goes in so many different lurid directions as to

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what he might be doing, because maybe he's building fences

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in Florida. Sure, yeah, but maybe he's not only fan

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and if he is, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, we should subscribe in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: We should describe it. What's Mariah doing? She's probably working

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at a.

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Speaker 2: Bar, probably, yeah, she's probably bartending.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't she need the show?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I like I said, like, I don't

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think they're making a lot of money, so they probably

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don't need it. Like Mikelty Patrone on her podcast was

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saying that she was making some money but not enough

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to be like an actual job. So well, and it

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was filtered through her parents exactly, so it's not like

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TLC gave the kids a check. I just I'm just

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wondering why they wouldn't be more optimistic about filming the show,

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Speaker 1: We seeing Micah? I want to know what's happened in

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your life Micah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I could see why Micah doesn't want to be

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on the show because Veronica ruined it for him last

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year and made us such a fucking drama, made us

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such a stink for the entire family, not just him,

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So I could see why he'd be like, let me

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just hang out with my girlfriend's slash boyfriend in Florida

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and live my best life, you know what I mean?

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And Mariah's like, I'm in Montana, so bye. I just

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have questions that's all sure, and that's fair and valid.

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I'm here to hold space for your questions. But Ethan

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is back from Wisconsin. So if you recall last week

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he drove in one night to Wisconsin to stock Teegan

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in his old man car and to find an apartment

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to live next to her. They reunited. It was awkward.

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Now he's back. He drove all in one night back

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from Wisconsin down to kro He's tired. He's fucking tired.

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want to do is like have my family.

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Speaker 1: Ask me, interrogate me, interrogate me.

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Speaker 2: Let me just eat my ham and my turkey and

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my homemade bread and drink from my thermos. Did you

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Speaker 1: No, he was.

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Speaker 2: Drinking something out of his thermos while everybody else was

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drinking that weird green drink that can go.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I did not notice that. So he's a

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full blown drinker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, Slash. He's like drinking whiskey

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or something in that thermos.

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Speaker 1: But was quite a nice spread though. Oh yeah, the

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food looked great, the ham looked wonderful. I'm hungry, theigle

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smoke turkey. I haven't eaten yet. Today, I should not

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have this cocktail. I'm going to fall apart. Just letting

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Speaker 2: One thing we did learn though from the plasts. I

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think they may have talked about it in the earlier seasons,

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but I was actually surprised to hear it is that

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they didn't celebrate any of the holidays, yeah, except for Thanksgiving.

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So like they didn't celebrate Christmas, they didn't celebrate Halloween, Easter,

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or Valentine's Day for some reason. But Thanksgiving was okay.

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And I just if I was a kid in this family,

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I would be so bitter about that. I'd be so

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fucking bitter.

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Speaker 1: It's like they were Jehovah's witnesses.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's like weird, where's.

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Speaker 1: The joy, where's the fun? But like why Thanksgiving? Though,

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probably because it's a nationalistic holiday. It's about Amrouco, right,

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so we've got to celebrate. But if it comes to

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Christ and Christmas and Easter is Holy Resurrection, that.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't at all.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Maybe because they think that Christmas and Easter are actually

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Pegan holidays. Because I know a lot of fundamentalist Christians

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won't celebrate because of that.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's probably what it is. Yeah, but that's

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also lame and like shitty to deprive your kids of that.

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Speaker 1: But whatever, it's not fun at.

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Speaker 2: All, not fun at all. But Kim talks about when

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they did celebrate Thanksgiving as a family, they would actually

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rent a beach house and she would make chili for Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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which I'm just like, okay, weird. But this year we

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have old man one eye, racist Ken Palmer smoking the turkey.

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It looked dry to me personally, didn't look like a juicy, delicious.

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Speaker 1: Turch just needed some gravy honey.

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Speaker 2: And then did you see that they were making canned

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cranberry sauce. Yes, I'm just like, you've changed me with

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those heathens. Disgusting.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't take a lot to just buy the bag

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of cranberries.

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Speaker 2: And make a delicious cranberry.

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Speaker 1: So what in the pot? A little lemon, a little orange,

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some sugar. Oh my god, it change a life, It

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changes your lies, it does.

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Speaker 2: So then we have everybody sitting down having dinner and

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talking or whatever, except for Ethan, who is drinking and

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eating his ham quietly. We have Kim making comments about

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like when are we gonna have little ones at the table,

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because you know, we have Isaac and Caitlin who are

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back together, Nobody cares. They broke up for literally four days,

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another back together, nobody cares. And then we have Lydia

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and Zach who are lovebirds, I guess, and Lydia's got

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baby fever and Kim senses that, and Kim makes a

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comment inappropriately being like, oh, well, you know me and Ken,

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we're not out of the race yet. We could have babies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I took that initially as a joke. Yeah,

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because Kim, you are fifty two to fifty three, I

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think your fertility is dead and gone. Maybe I know

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it's happened before, like there have been medical miracles like

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Gordon Ramsay's wife, But I just I don't think that

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that's you. So, like I was thinking she was joking, yeah,

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kind of brings it up a couple of games, like

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she's serious about it.

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Speaker 2: Like what if we could have a baby boy together, Ken,

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wouldn't that be great? I would love to give you

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a baby boy, Like what.

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Speaker 1: Anna's like seventy two or something, he's like literally retired.

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I already have grandchildren. I don't want to do any

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of that. Are you crazy? Are we looking for storylines?

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Is this just a plot? Because I can't believe she's serious.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking about it in the context

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with you, because you've made jokes like that before too,

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like of like, oh, like we could have babies. Ugh,

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but like you're obviously joking and not being enterprise obvious though,

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why do you want me to explain biology whatever? I'm sorry,

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your womb is barren?

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Speaker 1: Holy fuck, I don't have a wombre, not anymore.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I could see it from

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that context, like maybe Kim was joking, but she did

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kept pressing it, and it kind of felt like to me,

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she wanted to tell everybody like me and Kenner fucking though,

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like nobody needs to know that, nobody needs to visualize that.

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I would rather not think about that ever in my life,

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and same with your kids.

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Speaker 1: I think she does believe she could have a child.

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It was definitely giving Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of

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New York when she missed her period at fifty four

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years of age. She's like, meybe ain't pregnant. No, you

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are in menopausa. Honey, how do you not know that?

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Speaker 2: That's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Why do we have basic health understanding about her own

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body's Kim?

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Speaker 2: That's literally crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: Come back to reality, Kim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're not Gordon Ramsay's wife who has had

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two kids now in her fifties. What, yes, bitch, her

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and Gordon are fucking still and they've had two kids.

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Speaker 1: Was she trying?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I think they were just well, Kim is very fertile,

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so you never know when you're gonna have a magical bundle.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's great, but like maybe you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I would advice against it, Kim.

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Speaker 2: Maybe personally not a wise decision. And so after the

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whole like baby discussion, you know, Lydia is obviously got

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baby fever. You know, we hear from Zach saying like, well,

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there's like some logistical things that we have to figure

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out before we have a baby, Like you know, I

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have to get hard. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking I have to get a real job.

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Speaker 2: That too, I have to have a real career.

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Speaker 1: I have to be able to support myself starting there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I have to be able to come in.

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Speaker 1: You are so terrible.

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Speaker 2: I have to be crazy because this episode was kind

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of boring, especially in the beginning. Yeah, and so after dinner,

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everybody goes to clean up, and then we have this

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really awkward conversation between Zach and Ethan. So Ethan is

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sitting by himself like a drunk, and he's angry, he's tired,

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he's brooding. Okay, he's obviously wanting to be by himself.

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Ethan's alone time, and Zach in particular is like wanting

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to interrogate Ethan about his move to Wisconsin, and I'm

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just like, dude, it's not your fucking business. So I

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don't know what we're doing here. But he's like asking

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him all of these like detailed questions like when are

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you going to move up there? What are your plans

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with Teacan? Are you guys going to get back together,

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do you have a job lined up? What are your

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plans for the future, what does your future look like

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with Teacan?

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Speaker 1: Like, dude, yeah, it was a lot. Barry was there

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as well, and Barry was like, a, you know, maybe

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he doesn't want to hear your questions, maybe now isn't

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the right time, but he says that to the camera.

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He doesn't in the moment advocate for Ethan and say, hey,

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maybe stop asking these questions. Like I wouldn't have minded

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that as much if it were just Lydia, or even

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if Zach was there and Lydia was asking. Yeah, but

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having Zach this newcomer to the family, and I assume

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he's younger than Ethan.

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Speaker 2: He is younger.

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Speaker 1: He certainly has never been married for years like Ethan,

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like to have this newcomer presumed to interrogate me about

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what my intentions are, like why and.

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Speaker 2: Then like ask why like personal questions. He's like, well,

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why did you guys break up? What led to the separation?

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Like is that really your fucking business?

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Speaker 1: Though? So is production putting Zach up to this? This

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is the question that I had for myself. Is it

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like TLC, is it for a storyline or is this

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just who Zach is. I think we're going to learn

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more as the episodes go on, like the nature and

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the character of Zach. But like it was really icky, yeah,

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and it was also very prideful. And I actually texted Beatrice,

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I'm like it's giving. He wants to be a pastor totally,

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or he wants to be in ministry and he wants

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to counsel men. Yes, I wonder why.

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Speaker 3: Council men or something like that, But I mean it

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was just giving, like he was trying to take this

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pious position over Ethan and Ethan like Ethan could handle

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one question, yeah, but then you had a second question

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and a third question and you could just see Ethan's.

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Speaker 1: Face get red. Yeah, his blood pressure is going up,

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and Zach's not reading any of these cues, and I'm

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just like.

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Speaker 2: Stop, back off, obvious, what are you doing well? And

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you have like multiple members of the family like talking

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to the camera being like, yeah, you know, we don't

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press Ethan on these kinds of things, like Barry being like, yeah,

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Ethan's obviously in a mood like maybe don't talk to him. Zach, like,

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let's maybe hold off on the questions. Like you have

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these other people in the family that are typically not

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super socially aware, but they're aware and to like deal

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with Ethan, and they're looking at Zach being like, dude,

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maybe let's hold off. So to me, it felt like

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Zach's got some audacity. I think you're right. He does

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want to be like a pastor and wants to counsel

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men totally on this kind of stuff, and he wants

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to like come from this religious authority. And I think, like,

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if we're to believe what we saw in the preview

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last week about how Lydia and Zach are apparently going

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to people in the family and lecturing them on being

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godly enough and making correct choices, like I could totally

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see Zach inserting himself to the family like I'm this

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religious authority, like get out of here.

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Speaker 1: And a marriage authority. Yeah, I've been literally married for

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six months for real, and you're going to presume to

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tell somebody else how to be in a relationship or

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you're going to be worried about them like with all

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of your worldly experience with vaginas. I'm not buying it, honey,

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I'm not trying that.

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Speaker 2: Like get out of here. But I will say, to

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Ethan's credit, he did try to answer his questions to

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the best of his ability without getting super.

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Speaker 1: Frustrated in a sort of monosyllabic Neanderthal way.

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Speaker 2: Totally, but like he wasn't being outwardly like fuck you

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zag like he wasn't being as mean as he probably

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could have been. Yes, then we shift gears entirely and

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we have Barry Amber and Mercy going bigfoot hunting.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? So not last season, but

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the season before when they went to that street carnival

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and they tried to dunk Kim or whatever. This is

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the same sort of a vibration. Yeah, like this is

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just manufactured content that you think is going to be

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entertaining it and it is not.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, I do believe in Bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: I was on a walk today for like an hour

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and a half because I'm an athlete.

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Speaker 2: Were you searching for Bigfoot?

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Speaker 1: I was searching, but it was kind of like out

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in the forested areas and I'm just like listening for

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like the rustling of the league, the tree knocks, stuff,

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for the tree knocks, for the language that Barry was

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talking about. But I got nothing. But I can understand.

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I can understand being interested in Bigfoot or whatever, but like,

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why are we putting this in the show.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cringey. I was laughing at the Bigfoot Tour

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guide because he's got this big old.

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Speaker 1: DC Stacy, the bigfoot guy.

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Speaker 2: God Beard, he's got the singing bowl. I laughed audibly,

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like I was laughing hard when he did the Bigfoot call,

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because I thought that was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: In all seriousness, like this, this is his purpose on the

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planet is to do the bigfoot call.

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Speaker 2: And he wanted the Blass to do it, and they're like, no, sorry,

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not gonna do that. But I thought, I mean, it

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was just boring content, like it's just manufactured. The only

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thing that was interesting about this is when they're going

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bigfoot hunting, we pivot on over to the Plath family

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farm where Kim Ken and Cassia are baking cookies, and

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then we have this like ridiculous comment from Kim saying like,

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oh yeah, you know, like Berry's into a lot of

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weird shit, just like Bigfoot, and like he's gonna have

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a hard time. I need a woman who's also into

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that weird shit. But like, good luck, you know, God bless,

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you'll probably find somebody eventually. I'm like, girl, just taking.

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Speaker 1: Swipes, Like why are you gonna be like that? Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: It's because she's jealous because you got jacked, you think so? Yeah,

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I think so. And like he's living his best life

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and he's working on himself. And she's bitter because now

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she's stuck with a one eyed racist.

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Speaker 1: And all of her children prefer Barry. It's not like

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they're not coming along and having a better relationship with her,

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but they definitely prefer Barry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think she's bitter. But I'm just like,

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you don't need to be like that, because I'm sure

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there's gonna be somebody who's gonna be into Berry and

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all of his weird cookiness. I know that we can't relate.

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I know a lot of people can't relate, but there

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is somebody for everybody. And you don't got to be critical,

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miss thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, over for you over there being critical of Barry.

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Speaker 2: And then you're gonna talk, and then you're gonna have

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a conversation while you're baking cookies with your one of

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your younger daughters right there talking about having a baby

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with this one eyed racist like please.

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Speaker 1: Who says very directly, you know, if she had child,

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that'd be great, but I really hope that she doesn't

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00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,160
because I don't want a child. Yeah, why are you

470
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:12,079
talking about children? I am an I'm a literal old actually, Yeah, aarp.

471
00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:17,759
I'm probably getting some social security already. Like I'm old,

472
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,599
I'm old as fuck, I'm a thuselog. Why are we

473
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,160
talking about siring a child? But like Kim, I think

474
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:28,599
is actually attached to this idea of this her being

475
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,000
like a fertile queen, being like a mom in her femininity. Yeah,

476
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,920
I canna give you babies, honey. He's like, I don't

477
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:39,559
want babies with you. I just want you to subsidize

478
00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:41,400
my entire life. I want to live on your farm.

479
00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:43,240
I want to eat the food that you buy. I

480
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,680
want you to take care of me. I don't want

481
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,720
to take care of a child.

482
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: Fuck. No. Well, and he does make a comment too

483
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,519
that he thinks that Kim thinks that having a baby

484
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:54,160
with him would bring them closer, but it actually wouldn't.

485
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: That was interesting.

486
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,759
Speaker 2: That was an interesting comment from him. I'm like, oh,

487
00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,519
so you guys aren't close, And I'm I'm sure we'll

488
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,200
find out why in the later season.

489
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's because, as we saw in the preview, he's

490
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:11,720
not approving of her body. Yeah, which is all I'm

491
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,119
gonna say.

492
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,799
Speaker 2: That's all we'll say.

493
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,319
Speaker 1: This is all I'm gonna say about that.

494
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: And I will say for Kim, I could understand like

495
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,039
why she's attached to this whole like baby making thing

496
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,160
because that was her whole life, right, Like she had

497
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,640
ten children over the course of thirty years or whatever,

498
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:29,160
like that was literally all she had and like her

499
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,880
whole purpose. I don't want to say that that was

500
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000
her purpose as a woman, but like in this arrangement

501
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,319
that she had with Barry, like she was the homemaker,

502
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,880
she was the mom's like I guess I could see it.

503
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,480
But also like read the room, you're old, you don't

504
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,920
need to be having a baby. It's fine, you can

505
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,279
live your life with your juicer and you're one eyed racist.

506
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,599
Speaker 1: But it's also uncomfy to hear the conversation when you're

507
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,359
a Cassie and you're just trying to make chocolate chip cookies.

508
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing.

509
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: Can we just make cookies?

510
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,559
Speaker 2: Mom, Like, we don't need to talk about your sex life. Mom. Yeah,

511
00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:00,039
I don't want to hear about it.

512
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: Yes it is gross, Yes it is gross. It is gross.

513
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: And so after that stupid segment, then we go go

514
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:10,799
over to Isaac and Ethan. Isaac is waiting for Ethan

515
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,759
to have lunch, and Ethan is forty fucking minutes late.

516
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,599
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to punch that guy.

517
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: I was like so mad. I'm like, are you kidding me?

518
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: Dude?

519
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,279
Speaker 2: And Ethan watts on over and there he's like, oh, sorry,

520
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,319
I'm late or whatever. I had a phone call with

521
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,039
my attorney, Like dude. M Isaac even said like, I'm

522
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,319
pissed off at you, dude, like I've been waiting here

523
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:33,400
like all this time.

524
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: You kind of told me late people. Well, it is

525
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,799
so disrespectful. It feels like you don't think my time

526
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,000
is as valuable as your time. It also feels like

527
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,960
you need to be the main character sweeping into the

528
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:50,559
room that everybody looks up and season. It is very

529
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,519
conceited and also rude.

530
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: It's so rude.

531
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,279
Speaker 1: If you're somebody who's late in my life, I am

532
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,440
facing you the fuck out. I'm too old to be

533
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,279
waiting around in a diner for your dumb ass.

534
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,799
Speaker 2: No for real. It's like so inconsiderate and like the

535
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,119
fact that he couldn't even like message Isaac and be

536
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,519
like sorry, I'm gonna be late, Like no, he just

537
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:11,599
waltz in and he expects Isaac to be understanding of

538
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960
the fact that he was on a forty minute phone call,

539
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,000
I guess with his lawyer to talk about his divorce

540
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:17,759
with Olivia.

541
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,839
Speaker 1: And I want that for you. I want you to

542
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,000
have the conversations about the divorce. But like you knew,

543
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,079
you were supposed to not just show up for Isaac.

544
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200
You're showing up to film something. This is your literal job. Yeah,

545
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,960
you're supposed to be there to do your job, but

546
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,480
you feel like you're in power to just mosey on

547
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,079
in forty five minutes late, Honey, I would have been

548
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,119
reading him the Riot Act.

549
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: That is so rude. But once he finally arrives and

550
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,839
they get their food, then we have a discussion about

551
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,119
Ethan and Teagan. And Isaac is coming from a protective

552
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,720
brother standpoint, like he's worried about Ethan. He doesn't want

553
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,200
to see Ethan get hurt again. And I think the

554
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,680
writing is on the wall for literally everybody, like Teagan

555
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,680
is going to break Ethan's heart again. He is hopelessly,

556
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,640
so hopelessly in love with Teagan and thinks that by

557
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119
making this big move he's gonna win her back.

558
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't he says, a chance.

559
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there really isn't a chance. It doesn't see

560
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,319
does seem like it at all, and everyone is sensing it,

561
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960
and I think they're all worried for Ethan, but you know,

562
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,480
Isaac is being supportive and he's just like, well, you know,

563
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,359
like I love you or whatever. And then they talk

564
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,559
about the Montana trip that we'll see at the end

565
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,759
of the episode and probably into next week that I

566
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:35,079
guess Teagan is going to go to Montana with the

567
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:39,559
rest of the family. Why I don't understand. And then

568
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,200
we go back to the Plath family farm where we

569
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,799
have Lydia and Zach and like this little segment, I

570
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:50,440
guess they've been staying with Kim during the Thanksgiving celebrations

571
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:54,640
or whatever. They talk about how Kim is a good host,

572
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,759
but that their relationship with her and every interaction that

573
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,400
they have with her is very sur level because I

574
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,119
guess she talks shit behind their backs.

575
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,599
Speaker 1: Well, he comes out and says that it's Zach, it's

576
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,880
not Lydia, Like I just feel like if I heard

577
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,680
that from Lydia, that it was an actual concern of

578
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,880
hers that while she's there, her mother's going to be

579
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,839
gossiping about her, Like I would respect that and I'd

580
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,559
be concerned for her, but like hearing it from Zach,

581
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,039
it's just not his place to talk about his wife's

582
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:27,480
mother yet. Like maybe in ten years, right, fifteen years,

583
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,680
you've seen some shit or whatever about Kim Plath, then

584
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,759
you can speak on it. But you've literally only been

585
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,079
in this family for six months and you're talking about

586
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720
her mom. Yeah, camera on camera, that's the thing which

587
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,640
she's going to see.

588
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

589
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,839
Speaker 1: I was just like the audacity of that kid.

590
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,559
Speaker 2: The audacity of it all. And like, so you're going

591
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,240
to talk about how Kim talks behind everybody's backs, and

592
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,880
then in the next breath, you're going to talk about

593
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,559
Ethan behind his back and about how he is making

594
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960
decisions when he's in a bad place and you guys

595
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200
are worried about him and you're worried about his future

596
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,680
and you feel the need to talk to him. But

597
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
we're gonna have Zach talk to him, because you know,

598
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,880
bro to bro, We're going to talk to him, Like, no, dude,

599
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,839
I have no doubt that Lydia and Zach are also

600
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,079
talking about the rest of the family behind their backs,

601
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,640
of course.

602
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, and that's fine within the confines

603
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,319
of the marriage, but Yeah, you're going to actually approach

604
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,599
Ethan and you're going to try and have a conversation

605
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,039
with him.

606
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: He's going to try and counsel him on his decisions.

607
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,079
Speaker 1: Well, I just have questions, is what he says, Like,

608
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,359
I just want to know, like why you think that

609
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,880
this is the right thing for you to do. And

610
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000
I just want to know, Beatrice and Delia just want

611
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,119
to know, like why you give a shit No for real,

612
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,559
pay attention to your wife and her pussy and stuff,

613
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,640
Get a fucking job and take care of your own life.

614
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Be a good steward of your own life before you

615
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:49,079
come checking for Ethan. And I'm not an Ethan fan, no,

616
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,000
and obviously Ethan is crazy, Yeah, but like I don't

617
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,920
need you, Zach with your little doll mouth, you little

618
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,839
fucking fish mouth, coming in to ask Ethan about his

619
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,279
love life. It's weird. It's weirdo behavior.

620
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: It's really odd to me. And so then we transition

621
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:07,400
to the next segment where Ethan is fixing up one

622
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,359
of his old man cars because I guess he's gonna

623
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,359
go back up to Wisconsin.

624
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,119
Speaker 1: It's the New Yorker, it's the same New Yorker, and.

625
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: So he's gonna fix it up, change the oil or whatever,

626
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,880
and Zach is allegedly going to help out with the

627
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,559
car stuff, okay, and Zach frames it as I'm gonna

628
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,200
help him out fix the car, and then he goes

629
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
and shows up there in a white shirt, a white

630
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,720
sweatshirt and with his little doll hands, and he like

631
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,079
doesn't know anything about cars, and then he admits to

632
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,119
that on camera and he's like, I actually don't know

633
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,160
how to be a man. I don't know how to

634
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,319
do it.

635
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: You don't say what a shock.

636
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:42,799
Speaker 2: And then Ethan is just like, Okay, I guess we

637
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,119
will do this on camera and I'll fix my cars.

638
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,400
And I think Ethan is thinking, like, I'll film this

639
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200
scene with this weirdo, and as long as I can

640
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640
fix my cars and not really have to interact with anybody,

641
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,039
I'll be fine and I'll tolerate it. Mm hmmm. And

642
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,839
Ethan even says to the camera, I'm actually very irritated.

643
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,279
I'm super mad, I'm frustrated, but I'm trying not to

644
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:07,799
let it come to the surface. I'm trying to just

645
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,920
be cordial and nice and answer all of his dumb

646
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,799
fucking questions. But Zach comes in hot, like he's like

647
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,559
asking him about the relationship with Teagan again, asking him

648
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,519
about how he spent all of this money on Teagan

649
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,839
and you didn't get anything in return, So are you

650
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880
worried about that when you go to Wisconsin? Like the

651
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,000
audacity of you.

652
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,839
Speaker 1: And with like such an inability to read social cues

653
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,920
or feedback from somebody, like you can't tell when Ethan's

654
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:40,039
entire face is tomato red and you know his muscles

655
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,440
are bulging because he wants to hit you so bad

656
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,480
because you're overstepping, Like you can't read that in the room.

657
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,960
It's kind of speaking to how sheltered Zach actually is.

658
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,400
First of all, that you would ask these kind of

659
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,839
questions in a social context of somebody that you really

660
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:57,240
don't know. And Ethan says that a couple of time times,

661
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,160
like I don't even talk about this shit with my brother.

662
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

663
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,279
Speaker 1: He speaks to how little you know about life that

664
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,359
you would think that that was okay to ask the

665
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400
questions and then to expect some kind of an answer,

666
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,119
Like you aren't owed an answer, dude, not at all.

667
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: It felt very entitled to me, like he felt entitled

668
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,559
to not only ask these questions of Ethan, but he

669
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,119
felt entitled for Ethan to answer them honestly and to

670
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,480
give him these detailed answers about his life. It's like,

671
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,519
these are very personal questions that you're asking about not

672
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:31,240
only his life, but his relationship that has ended and

673
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,440
ended in a pretty terrible way. Ethan is obviously depressed

674
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,960
about it. Maybe you shouldn't ask him about it.

675
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Chill out a little bit, maybe like say, hey, you

676
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,599
want to go get a beer. Yeah, let's talk about cars,

677
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,799
teach me about cars. Yeah, let's watch a game or whatever. Right,

678
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,279
meet him on the playing field of his life, spend

679
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,720
time with him. Don't try to like immediately go right

680
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,759
for the jugular and figure out, like what are you doing, dude? Yeah,

681
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,359
why are you so in love with this girl? Why

682
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:56,799
are you giving her all your money? And do it

683
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,559
on camera? No, Yeah, Ethan is so uncomfy.

684
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,279
Speaker 2: He's so uncomfy. And I just felt like it was

685
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,720
super weird, this whole interaction. I felt very tense like

686
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,359
watching it because it just felt like Ethan was put

687
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
in a hard spot and like, obviously we know from

688
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,480
last season, Ethan made a complete ass out of himself

689
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,000
at the night before Zach and Lydia's wedding where he

690
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,920
was asking Zach questions about being gay.

691
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:25,599
Speaker 1: And then the day of the wedding when he's doing

692
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,559
furious push ups exactly and throwing tables around like he

693
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,400
was very frustrated.

694
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,519
Speaker 2: So he's taking an ass out of himself. And I

695
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,000
think that Ethan is self aware enough to know that

696
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640
that was bad last year, that he was a jerk,

697
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,119
and so now he's like really trying to be calm enough.

698
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,759
I mean, it's Ethan. He's tomato red, so he's obviously

699
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:47,359
fuming underneath everything, but like he's trying to be calm

700
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,200
and not tell him to fuck off.

701
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty gracious, he was he was like

702
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:56,240
laughing a little bit. He was being for Ethan somewhat

703
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,799
kind and accommodating. But still you could be Stevie Wonder

704
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,640
and see that Ethan was not happy with this conversation.

705
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,280
That's not how you connect with somebody and former relationship.

706
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,559
But Zach doesn't know that because either Zach is being

707
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,039
put up to this by production so he feels like

708
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,800
he has to do it because it's his job, or

709
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,800
Zach just hasn't had enough life experience to realize when

710
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,719
like you are definitely doing too much and people aren't

711
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,320
happy with you.

712
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: My vibe with it was that Zach felt like he

713
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,360
was entitled to ask these questions. I think Zach from

714
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,480
his perspective, is like, well, I'm married Lydia now, so

715
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,920
now I'm part of the family, so therefore I am

716
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,320
entitled to call you guys out on your bullshit. I'm

717
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,400
going to tell you when you're not godly enough because

718
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,280
I'm a very godly man and I'm straight, and I'm

719
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,079
married to a woman who's also very godly, and I'm

720
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,719
going to ask you personal questions about your life because

721
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,320
you know I'm concerned and you know I'm coming from

722
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,320
a godly perspective.

723
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,559
Speaker 1: That's what Jesus would do exactly, ask about your relationship,

724
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,559
ordicating relationship with your a friends.

725
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,559
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's I just I didn't appreciate it at all.

726
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,159
I will say it was refreshing to hear Ethan kind

727
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:10,599
of talk about his relationship with Teagan in the sense

728
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:14,159
of like things go both ways, like because Zach had

729
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,559
said a comment about how Ethan was giving so much

730
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,039
to Teagan and not getting a lot back in return,

731
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,119
and this upset Ethan because he's like, you know, I'm

732
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,559
a man, I'm gonna give her whatever she needs. I'm

733
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,840
gonna provide things for her. I'm gonna pay for things

734
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,679
for her and her daughter because I want to, because

735
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,400
I'm in a relationship with her. I'm not doing it

736
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,639
because I feel like she wants me to. So relationships

737
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,880
go both ways. So I did appreciate that he was

738
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,079
kind of defending that aspect, and I also appreciated that

739
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,320
he kind of sort of took a little bit of

740
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,239
ownership for the fact that, like he was telling Teagan

741
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,440
a million times he's gonna move up there and then

742
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,599
never did anything about it, and so this kind of

743
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,519
contributed to the demise of his relationship.

744
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,599
Speaker 1: You know, I think that again, the impulse that Zach

745
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,400
is demonstrating, like, hey man, I'm concerned about you. You

746
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,119
seem to be giving this girl a lot of money.

747
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,599
You seem to be like doing a lot for this

748
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,400
girl or whatever. Like I I think that's a good impulse.

749
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,880
It just should have been coming from Lydia. Yeah, because

750
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,440
last season we had Ethan confronting Lydia and asking her

751
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,519
like isn't this pretty soon? Like are you sure you

752
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,920
want to be doing this, so that's appropriate for their relationship.

753
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:29,239
It is completely inappropriate for the relationship that Ethan has

754
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,119
with Zach. But yeah, I.

755
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,039
Speaker 2: Think you're right about that. Like, I think this would

756
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,840
have been more of an appropriate conversation to have with

757
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,280
Ethan and one of his siblings, yeah, or even Ethan

758
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,800
and one of his parents. But to have it come

759
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,760
from a new spouse, like a spouse that hasn't even

760
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,480
been established in the family for many.

761
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,119
Speaker 1: Years, your entire aura is judgmental.

762
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: Totally judgmental. Like, it's so inappropriate for him to even

763
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,559
try and talk to Ethan about all of this, Like,

764
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:58,719
I don't understand why he thinks this was okay in

765
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,920
any regard either. It's bizarre.

766
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I am very excited to see the journey.

767
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:05,239
I'm wondering if at some point we have Ethan saying,

768
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,360
shut the fuck up, dude. I hope, so the fuck

769
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,079
do you think you are?

770
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: I hope so, because that's what he deserves, because I

771
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,599
was wanted to say that during this episode. I'm like Zach,

772
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,519
and don't get.

773
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,679
Speaker 1: Me wrong, like somebody needs to call Ethan out. For sure,

774
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,800
that has to happen. But I don't think this is

775
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,079
the messenger.

776
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: To do that.

777
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,559
Speaker 2: No, no way at all. And then the last segment

778
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,960
that we have of the episode is Ethan and Teagan

779
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:31,280
arriving in Montana. So a bunch of the siblings. I

780
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,519
don't think him and Barrier there, it's just the older siblings,

781
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,360
nor Lydia and Zach. Yeah, Lydia and Zach are not

782
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,679
going to be there. A bunch of the older siblings

783
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,519
are taking a trip to Montana, mainly to visit Mariah,

784
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,719
but also to like just spend time together. And Teagan

785
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,199
was invited. She up until this point wasn't sure if

786
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,320
she was going to come, because you know, Teagan and

787
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Ethan are broken up and she hates him, she's disgusted

788
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
by him. But she decided to come, and we see

789
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,079
them in Montana. They're at the lodge. They have had

790
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:06,079
a hellish day of travel, a bunch of missed flights,

791
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:09,840
delays and whatever, and then an hour drive to the lodge.

792
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,360
So Teagan's already in a bad mood. Ethan looks kind

793
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,960
of like in a bad mood. He looks kind of.

794
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,599
Speaker 1: Sad, although he's like, actually, I really appreciated being able

795
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,519
to drive from the airport to the lodge, we had

796
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,440
an hour in the car, Like it was like old times,

797
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,559
there was distance, but you know, it was nice to

798
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:30,199
be around her.

799
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says that multiple times in the episode,

800
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,920
like he's like, it was great that I got to

801
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,599
spend so much time traveling with you and spend so

802
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,679
much time with you in general. And Tigan's like why,

803
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,320
Like you.

804
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,639
Speaker 1: Just look at her face. She's obviously got the ick. Yeah,

805
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,840
Like she is not feeling Ethan that she's either got

806
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,360
the ick or again she's punishing him, like she really

807
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,119
wants to make him pay. And when we get to

808
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:57,679
the previews, we see sort of a snapshot of why

809
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,840
that might be, like what he did to cause this,

810
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,280
but like she is just not happy. No, she's not

811
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,079
enamored of Ethan. She does not care that he wants

812
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,639
to be in a relationship with her or share her room. Yeah,

813
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,679
because she insisted upon a separate hotel room.

814
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when they get to the lodge, it had

815
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,280
been set up in a way where Ethan and Tiagan

816
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,960
we're gonna be sharing a room. So they have all

817
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,159
these couplely things. They have little matching robes and slippers

818
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,960
and couples gifts and stuff like that and little notes,

819
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,639
and Ethan is dropping her stuff off in this room

820
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,079
because he's gonna go sleep in a separate room, and

821
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,840
Teagan is very frank to say to the camera like, yeah,

822
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,400
we're not gonna be sharing a room because we're not

823
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:42,679
a couple. We are just friends. And you can see

824
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,719
how sad this makes Ethan. And Ethan even says like

825
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,559
it's emotional bringing her stuff into this room that we

826
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,760
were going to share, because you know, I wish that

827
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,679
things were different. And Ethan was very careful to say, like,

828
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,880
it's okay that we're not sharing rooms, but obviously I

829
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,800
wish it was different, because you know, I love her

830
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,800
and whatever, and I want to bang her, but circumstances

831
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,239
are not like that right now. And then we have

832
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,440
this like little interview with Ethan and Teagan where production

833
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:17,280
is asking them, like, you know, are you guys just friends?

834
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,000
Is there a chance for romance in the future, And

835
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:24,159
Teagan seems like surprised by this, and it's just like, well, like, yeah,

836
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:26,280
we're friends right now, but like I don't know what

837
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,400
the future holds. What do you think, Ethan?

838
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,159
Speaker 1: Well, and here was where I was trying to determine

839
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:35,000
whether she was just being punitive because he's just staring

840
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
at her. Yeah, Like he doesn't want to answer the

841
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,800
producer and tell the producer what he wants, what he

842
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,920
is hopeful for, but he's just looking at her with

843
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,639
all the yearning and the angst of a top tier

844
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,000
romance not and she sees him. Yeah, like you can't

845
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,159
be a woman and not understand what that look means. Yeah,

846
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,719
that man wants you, top of your head, down of

847
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,719
the tippy toes. That man wants you. You know that

848
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,440
he wants you, and you're still gonna play the game

849
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,800
that you're like what, we're just friends, right, Yeah, what's

850
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,280
the problem? What are you sad about?

851
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

852
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,119
Speaker 1: She knows what he's sad about well, and.

853
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: Then she's quick to say too, like, I know that

854
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:12,920
he's sad, but I don't care.

855
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: But in the moment he actually confesses his loved people, like,

856
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,079
what are you so sad about? And he says something

857
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,719
like and I'm paraphrasing because I can't be arsed to remember,

858
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,440
but like I just really want to be with you

859
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,039
and I love you, and I'm here because I really

860
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,519
hope that we can rekindle our shit and she's just like, yeah,

861
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:31,199
I don't know about that.

862
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,639
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't give a fuck. I don't care at all.

863
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: And then to the camera she's like, yeah, I know

864
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,800
he's sad, but like whatever, yikes, So are you playing games? Teagan?

865
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:43,840
Do you really not care? Because if you didn't care,

866
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,320
why are you here?

867
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

868
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,639
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't show up to some family trip to Montana.

869
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:50,679
Maybe she's getting paid. Maybe it's for the fame, maybe

870
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,639
it's for the clout. But like if it's not that, like,

871
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,519
why are we here though? Other than to make that

872
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,000
man grovel? I do love a groveling man. I gotta

873
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,719
say I love a I'm in my day hondy. I've

874
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960
had some groveling man order. And I don't want to

875
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:09,800
make men feel bad. Well, sometimes they have to. They've

876
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,079
been bad boys for Yeah, you've been a bad boy.

877
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:14,599
Speaker 2: God, I can't with you.

878
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: You better gravel hood, dude.

879
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Look, And in certain circumstances I could totally see it,

880
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,159
like if Ethan was a cheater, for example, like yeah,

881
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:25,599
you should fucking gravel you bitch, you fucking cheating ass

882
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:29,199
ho sure beg for me to come back. Okay, I

883
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,840
get it, But like I don't know what the context

884
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,639
of their breakup was, Like, I don't know what happened really,

885
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,199
And like, obviously you can tell Ethan is earnest and

886
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,679
I know he's a shithead, and I know he's an asshole,

887
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,519
and I know we don't like him, but you can

888
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:46,199
tell he is totally smitten for her. He wants her back,

889
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,159
he is moving back to Wisconsin for her, He's doing

890
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,719
all this stuff for her. So for her to be

891
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,320
so dismissive of it and for her to be so mean,

892
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,679
like and just be like, what, we're friends, right, are

893
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,360
you okay with that? Like Ethan obviously not okay with that.

894
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: There's something that's very delicious about that, and we kind

895
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,960
of love a moment where the woman has the power dynamic. Sure,

896
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,519
but there's also something that's that's sad about it. But

897
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:13,360
I do want to ask a question of you and

898
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,840
everybody else, certainly drop in the comments if you're watching

899
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,800
on YouTube, Like, say, she takes him back, okay, and

900
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,719
she makes a decision that she's going to enter into

901
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,000
a relationship with Ethan once he moves to Wisconsin. Do

902
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:30,639
we think Ethan can maintain this level of attentiveness and

903
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,880
desiring her and being present in their relationship. Or do

904
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,400
we think that the moment Ethan is back in her life,

905
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,360
has weaseled his way back into life. Do we think

906
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,800
that he's just going to regress into the crow magnan

907
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,840
man who's stuck underneath a hood and who can't communicate

908
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,239
and will be unable to give her what she wants?

909
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,840
What do we think?

910
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: It's hard for me because I think that everybody has

911
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,960
the capacity to change, Like everybody has the capacity to grow. Yeah,

912
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,800
and he is so young, and he does have a

913
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,880
lot of growing up to do, and like he could

914
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,679
mature into a really respectful man. Sure he could, there's

915
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:09,400
a potential for that. But with Ethan Plath, it's hard

916
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,480
because he hasn't really had a good track record, and

917
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,159
he hasn't had a good track record in relationships with

918
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,079
women who have been kind to him obviously, like with Olivia,

919
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,400
like their relationship was messy and everything, but like he

920
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,280
had his part to play in that too, Like he

921
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,800
had a part to play in the destruction of the marriage,

922
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,320
and he is aware of that, at least he has

923
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,480
said that on the show. But with Tiegan, I feel

924
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:36,000
like it's one of those situations where it's like too little,

925
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,880
too late. He probably pushed it too far. He could

926
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,719
have moved with her a couple months ago before the

927
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,400
breakup and they would have been able to salvage their relationship.

928
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,880
But he pushed it and pushed it and pushed it

929
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,639
because he's fucking stubborn.

930
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: And he's selfish, and he's selfish, and he's not interested

931
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,920
in his personal development and growth. Like we don't see

932
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:03,039
Ethan Plath and therapy. No, I can't even imagine that

933
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:04,880
he would ever go to therapy, but like that is

934
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,079
what he needs in order to learn how to express yourself. Yeah, that,

935
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,119
and to learn how to show up in relationships in

936
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:12,480
a productive way.

937
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,119
Speaker 2: And I can again have sympathy for it because he

938
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,480
doesn't really have a healthy model of what a healthy

939
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relationship looks like. His parent's obviously fucking divorced after thirty years,

940
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and so you know, he doesn't have a framework, He

941
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,119
doesn't have a foundation really to lay himself on and

942
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,119
to build his life on. So he is kind of

943
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,119
like in open water right now, and he doesn't really

944
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,800
know how to be a human being, let alone a

945
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human being, and.

946
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,519
Speaker 1: He's trying, and I do like your word earnest ye,

947
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:45,320
Like I think he's earnestly trying and so for like

948
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,519
a guy like that, if you have a little bit

949
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,639
of hope to be in a relationship with him, like

950
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,280
you should just give him a little bit of a bone.

951
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,679
Speaker 2: And I do think that there is something to the

952
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,920
idea that a woman can change a man. I'm not

953
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,519
saying that women should, but I'm just saying, like a woman, oh, yes,

954
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,480
can you know, change a man to be a better man?

955
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes?

956
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: Yes, through yes love and through the punani. I think

957
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880
like there's a potential for that too, Like Teagan could

958
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,920
be that for Ethan and change him into a better

959
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,079
man because he would want to be a better man

960
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:18,800
for her. And I think that he is trying to

961
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,119
demonstrate that, like trying to be like, look, I'm trying

962
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,000
to change my life a little bit. I'm going to

963
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,960
move for you. I'm gonna meet you where you're at,

964
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:28,360
and I'm okay with being friends right now. Obviously I

965
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,480
hope that there will be more, but I don't think

966
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,360
Teagan wants that. I feel like she's been fucking other people.

967
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 1: I do too, actually do too. I think that she

968
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,840
may want that, though, what what do you mean a

969
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,840
relationship with him. I think that she's I think she's

970
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,280
probably putting him through the ringer so that she can

971
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,880
pay him back for something that he did to her.

972
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,559
And then we get to the preview, yes, and we

973
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:52,039
learn about something that Ethan did to her which kind

974
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,880
of just shut her down completely.

975
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to get more context into that, but

976
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,159
we have the preview. We have very talk about Bigfoot audio.

977
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't care. I do not care.

978
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: He talking about it with like one of his daughter's

979
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,719
friends or something. It looks like, what are we doing? Dad?

980
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,280
Please stop? There's audio of Bigfoot and other dimensions in

981
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,840
a different way.

982
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: I've actually heard that.

983
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: I know.

984
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:18,559
Speaker 1: I know he's talking about the Sierra Sounds. I know

985
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:19,880
exactly what he's talking about.

986
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: You would be Berry's dream girl.

987
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,199
Speaker 1: Which I really would, I really would.

988
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then we have Teagan in Montana.

989
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,840
She's being very obviously distant from Ethan. It's actually uncomfortable

990
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:39,079
how distant she is being. We have other siblings.

991
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: Can you hear that he's trying to get up? He's fat,

992
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:46,519
He's so fat.

993
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:49,119
Speaker 2: He's an English mast if. He's very sweet though. Anyway,

994
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:52,360
So we have Tagan being distant from Ethan in Montana.

995
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,480
We have other siblings commenting on this, how uncomfortable it is.

996
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,000
It's very weird. Kaylin in particular, which I love her too,

997
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,880
she call out she's so based. She's like, you know,

998
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,559
why are you even on this trip if you're not

999
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,400
going to make any kind of effort to be in

1000
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,760
a relationship with Ethan Because obvious, it's obvious to everybody

1001
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,800
that Ethan is doing this to try and get back

1002
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,679
together with you. Why are you here if that is

1003
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,280
not your interest. And then we have Teagan saying to

1004
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,559
the camera that the straw that broke the camel's back

1005
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,960
with her relationship with Ethan was that she came to

1006
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,719
visit him for his birthday or celebrate his birthday, and

1007
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,599
he was acting super weird. And then we hear from

1008
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:37,840
Ethan saying that when he was looking at Teagan, all

1009
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,559
he could see was Olivia.

1010
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yikes, So something happened. Teagan came down for his birthday.

1011
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,280
He's a Taurus like me, and he ignored her. He

1012
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,960
was not nice to her. He was Ethan being Ethan.

1013
00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:55,719
And then from his perspective, he kept looking at her

1014
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,719
and she was reminding him of Olivia. Just hold on

1015
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,440
for one second.

1016
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:01,519
Speaker 2: Gosh, my gosh, boom.

1017
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: So that is gotta hurt. I wonder if you said

1018
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,039
that to her in the moment.

1019
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: He probably did, and he was triggered. And you know

1020
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,800
something I've learned through being in therapy, Ethan, go to

1021
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,920
fucking therapy therapy, God, is like a lot of the

1022
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,159
time people can't identify what their triggers actually are. They

1023
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,119
just feel it and they don't know that they're being triggered.

1024
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:25,519
And so obviously Ethan was triggered by something that Teagan

1025
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,719
did or said, and you know, cro magnet uga boga,

1026
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,280
he can't communicate it, and so he just reacted from it.

1027
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,320
And obviously he reacted in a way that hurt Teagan

1028
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,679
to the point of breaking up.

1029
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I.

1030
00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:41,679
Speaker 2: Would like more details on that.

1031
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get them. I would love that, but I'm

1032
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,039
not gonna hold out hope. I know we're not gonna

1033
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,679
get kind of a let down of a season, this

1034
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,760
episode was a little bit better. It was better than

1035
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:56,719
I liked seeing Teakan. Yeah, she obviously has a bit

1036
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,480
of a grudge and I want to learn about it

1037
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,440
me too. We want to know more, and Zach is

1038
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,239
very I hate him. Zach is so gross. I really

1039
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,920
don't like him, so I want to see more of that.

1040
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:10,280
I want somebody to put him in his place. So

1041
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,920
I am invested. I'm into it. Yes, let us know

1042
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,840
how you guys feel about this season so far. Now,

1043
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,719
be Adrice. Is there anything else that we should say

1044
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,199
to these beautiful records before we get it bought out

1045
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:21,480
of here?

1046
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a favor.

1047
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,320
Go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a

1048
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,679
glowing five star review. Really helps us grow the pod

1049
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,559
so we can get better in the dumpster and we

1050
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:33,400
would really appreciate it, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: We will be back next week to talk. Welcome to Platfill.

1052
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000
We're taking one week off between seasons for Sister Wives

1053
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because we just concluded season eight. Yeah, we're gonna go

1054
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,920
into season nine, but that's not gonna be next week.

1055
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It's gonna be the week following that. I know, it's

1056
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,639
a lot, it's a such day, it's a job.

1057
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is our raccoon job. It is our job.

1058
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Speaker 1: But until then, please do not forget that we have

1059
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nothing but love for you and pease a night's mhm