Speaker 1: Well, hello, how are you.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Podcast on this Thursday. Today is
the nineteenth day of June, a year of all over
twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So we
start the day off today. Let me tell you how
I started my day off today. So I get up
this morning, I take a look around. I go into
my office and start working on prepping for the show.
And I'm looking around and I like to go around
to all the networks and take a look at what
their stories are and what their top stories are. And
I always visit CNBC and one of the things after
having worked for Fox Business, one of the things that
Fox Business loved to do was even if it's a holiday,
Fox Business was live with real new shows, and CNBC
would always go to some taped not financial, some other
kind of weird show. And it was a way in
which Fox Business, which we were trying, we were starting
from scratch, was able to make headway. In fact wind
up actually having bigger audiences than CNBC. But I still
like CNBC. And I'm flipping around to the networks and
I see that Fox is doing their thing, and I
see the folks over at I don't know all the networks,
we're doing whatever the news was of the more. CNN
was doing their show, but CNBC had some weird show
on about opportunities for young people in the future, and
they were having these little vignettes about people that were
young people that were doing things that were very promising.
It was a nice little little story. I kept, well,
they must be in a commercial or something. I'd go
on to something else, come back. Nope, they're on to
some other young person doing well and what a bright, bright,
bright opportunity for the future. And it did not dawn
on me that they are in taped programming. There was
no financial news this morning from CNBC, because that's what
they do when it's a holiday. And I thought, wait
a minute, it's not a holid. It's June nineteenth. Oh,
June teenth. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. June teenth is
a national holiday, and I don't know if you want
to call it a national holiday. It's a limited holiday.
The banks are closed, post office government offices, of course
are closed. But restaurants and retail stores and grocery stores
and all your normal businesses of Walmart is open, Costco
is open, Target is open, Starbucks is open. I mean
it's yeah, yeah, yeah, home depot, lows ace hardware, they're
all open, CBS, Walgreens all open. So everybody's open other
than the banks and the post office and the government.
And I it's such a new holiday. This is something
that Joe Biden signed in in twenty twenty one. And
what it does is provides millions of Americans with the
pay day off. And it is supposed to be a
day that commemorates the end of slavery. Now the holiday
is actually it's not even about the end of slavery,
but it's that story about what happened in Galveston, Texas.
In eighteen sixty five. Major General Gordon Granger arrived in
Galveston with two thousand Union troops and gave them the
news that slaves were no longer enslaved and there were
more than two hundred and fifty thousand enslaved black people
in the state of Texas, and he said, you're all free.
This was two and a half years after President Lincoln
signed the Emancipation Proclamation. So look at this, and maybe
especially for those of you that are African American, you
probably are yelling at me, But I look at this
and I go why it wasn't there any celebration, any
national holiday to commemorate and mark the signing of the
Emancipation Proclamation that was the official document signed by the
president saying we don't do slavery anymore in this country.
What happened in Texas two and a half years later
on June nineteenth was kind of an asterisk to me.
It was an afterthought. It was a mistake. Nobody told them,
and we didn't know. I know, we didn't have the
communications that we have today, but still nobody told them.
Nobody changed a thing. Maybe people did know, but nobody
wanted to do any about it. I don't know the
history well enough, but it just seems to me that
if we're going to celebrate the end of slavery, it
seems more appropriate to have it when the whole country
a president signed a national proclamation saying we are not
doing slavery in this country anymore. So I looked up
about is there anything that commemorates the end of the
Civil War, the end of slavery, anything like that.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 2: I guess this is as close as it comes. It's
an interesting story in history that they did not know,
but I'm looking at it and thinking is this going
to catch on? Because here we are it was two thousand.
What was it Biden signed this thing two thousand? Why
did Biden sign this thing? Yeah, he's it's not this
thing two and a half years ago, twenty twenty one.
So I'm not sure. When you don't have Target or
Starbucks or Costco or Walmart, Ups and FedEx are still working.
The major hardware stores are open, the major pharmacies are open,
restaurants are open, grocery stores are open, retail stores are open.
It doesn't seem like anybody's stopping and recognizing how of
an important day this is. And I guess that's true
most I always kind of make fun of holidays that
shortly after a holiday is proclaimed, it just seems like
people have no idea what the purpose of the holiday is.
I mean, you can even put well, actually, there is
something about the end of the Civil War. It actually
Veterans Day originally was a holiday to recognize the massive
death from the Civil War, and it eventually morphed into
Memorial Day, but it was too originally about the death
of the soldiers the North and the South in the
Civil War. But it still did not say anything about
the end of the war, the end of why we
had the war, the end of slavery, none of that.
So I understand how somebody said, let's recognize June nineteenth
as the end of slavery. But slavery stopped two and
a half years before. It was just those people did
not hear. So I'm not sure if anybody is really
digging this US an old term, but it doesn't look
like it. People are not stopping and thinking about the
end of slavery. It was a notification system in Galveston,
Texas by this by the Major General Gordon Granger, and
it was if it wasn't for him coming along, I
don't know how long it would take. You hear stories
like that about some Japanese soldier, you know, on some
island off of the coast of Japan, still dug in,
ready to fight the war. Nobody told them the war
was over, years after the World War two had come
to an end. So these things do happen. But anyway,
so Happy Juneteenth to those of you that are recognizing this.
Most of you, I don't think are. I don't notice
any difference. The streets here are busy, the traffic is busy.
Everybody seems to be going about their business. So I'm
not sure that this is going to hold. And I
would think, again, it's just my own historic opinion. I
would think that they should swap this out for a
celebration to recognize the Emancipation Acclamation the date that it
was signed, which was in January first of eighteen sixty three.
Maybe the problem with that is we already have a
holiday on January first, it's called New Year's Day. So yeah, anyway,
so happy Juneteenth. We'll leave it at that. So what's
that today? We also have We'll get you update on
the war Iran and Israel. The President did come out
today and said, well, actually, Caroline Levitt came out and
said he's decided that he will make a decision about
whether to get involved in the war with Israel and Iran.
He'll make that decision in the next two weeks. He
does that a lot, so we'll see what he does.
But mark your calendar down. Today's the nineteenth, so two
weeks from now what they do. There's also I've got
some military folks that talk about, you want to change regime.
We did that in Afghanistan and have that workout. We
did that in a rock. How did that work out?
In other words, regime change isn't something that is laid down. Yeah,
we go in, we drop a big bomb, we wipe
out an important place that is centrifuges for uranium. But
then what do you do? What comes next? Who's in
charge of Iran after we decapitate the Ayatola? And that's
the other question. Do you want to do that? There's
both sides of the equation talking about that. Harry Entton
has some polls out, a lot of poles out lately,
and we'll throw in little sports if we have time. Today.
Caitlin Clark, who is just an amazing athlete. She is
a star of the WNBA and they're just waiting on
this lady. The other ladies in the WNBA are i
mean viciously attacking her physically and the referees are not
doing anything about it. So the big debate about is
this getting attention, the good attention, or is it getting
to the point where people are saying there was a
sports columnist who wrote a piece saying, you're in the
spotlight because of her. She has elevated the WNBA. Don't
blow it. People don't want to watch her getting pummeled.
And we've got that, But let's start with another kind
of war, the one going on in the Middle East.
One of the things going on there is Tulci Gabbard,
the Director of National Intelligence, looks like she's out of
favor with the President. And that's the buzz coming out
of the White House is that the President is wondering
what happened to Tulsey Gabber. She literally testified that Iran.
We know that Iran is enriching uranium at an a
mount and a level and a speed that is way
above any country that has nuclear weapons, and they're they're
just piling up the enriched uranium, more enriched uranium than
anybody has ever had. And then she comes right out
and says, but there's no proof that they're making a bomb.
And you got to go, what do you think they're
doing with the enriched uranium? What do you think they're
going to do? They're getting it right up to the
level where all they got to do is add a
teaspoon of salt, and they've got themselves enough uranium to
make a bomb. And they've got tons of this and
we'll get to one of the generals that I was
talking about the fact that this whole thing about Fidoh,
that's the big enrichment facility. But they take the enriched
uranium and they store it in all kinds of locations
underground around Iran. And so he says, if we're going
to go in to Fidoh and blow that up, okay,
they're not going to be able to use a big
enrichment facility there, But what about all the enriched uranium
they have stored all over the country and will they
in fact, are they turning that into a bomb right now?
But for Tulsi Gabber to go, oh, yeah, they're making
more enriched uranium than anybody's ever seen, but we have
no proof that they're making a bomb. What do you
think they're doing with it, Tulsi? So let's start with
Seth Jones, former special forces guy, on the fact that Fidoh,
if we don't agree to drop the big bunker buster
bomb on fid Oh, he thinks that the IDF Israeli
defense forces, they're commandos, can take care of that place
on their own. Here's Seth Jones.
Speaker 4: Florida is in the center of the war, particularly the
nuclear side, partly because Isfahan, for example, has taken such
a beating so far. I think that the challenge for
the Israelis is if the United States does not use
its B two s GBU fifty sevens for strikes against
the facility, then I think the Israelis are going to
have to use commando forces. Now, it's worth noting in
September of twenty twenty four they did use commando forces
in Syria. They also used helicopters that came in, drones
and fixed wing aircraft against Assyrian missile and probably chemical
weapons facility, so they have done something along these lines.
Speaker 5: This is a This is a.
Speaker 4: Lot more difficult because I've heard estimates of FIDO going
down to half a mile, so that there's a lot
of potential territory down there. But I think I do
think Israel then would use commandos.
Speaker 6: It's that important.
Speaker 2: So Seth Jones thinks that the commandos could go in
and neutralize that Floridah facility. General Mark Kimmitt talks about
the enriched uranium that they have already made and where
is it and what are they doing with that.
Speaker 7: I think the most important thing to focus on is
there are two different worries. Number one is Ford All
which is primarily an enrichment facility with a significant number
of centrifuges. But then there's a stockpile of enhanced uranium already,
and we don't not sure if we fully know where
that two hundred to three hundred kilograms of this enhanced
uranium is right now. So I think it's one thing
to be able to take out their future capacity, but
there's some question about where is their current inventory and
has anybody taken that out yet, Because they're not going
to be making a bomb coming out of Florida anytime soon,
they would be using the material that they've already stockpiled.
Speaker 4: There are also defensive measures. A carrier strike group, including
its destroyers, certainly has the capability to conduct defensive measures.
For example, if the hoo This conduct missile or drone
strikes against Israel from Yemen, the US can shoot some
of those down, as they've been doing in the Red
Sea the last year or so. It is worth noting though, that,
as you noted, the US is taking defensive measures. It
has forces deployed in Syria and Iraq and Bahrain and
other countries. So if the US does get involved, it
has to be prepared for what either Iran or Iran
partner forces do in response. In the region, there's.
Speaker 2: Clarently people that are afraid of doing this. They're afraid
that it will expand the war. There's an old adage
about once you get all your war plans put together,
the first bullet that's fired, everything else, you might as
well throw your war plans away because you never know
what's going to happen. But there are people that are
very concerned about regime change. I look at it this way.
I mean, could you imagine US World War two conquering
Germany and saying, yes, Adolf Hitler, you can stay in power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can stay there and just be good from here
on out. I couldn't imagine that. So I can't imagine
that they're going to leave the Ayatola in power either.
He is an evil man in my opinion. But Dana Strial,
she is a Farmer Depends Department executive in the Obama administration,
seems pretty concerned about doing any sort of regime change.
Speaker 8: Well, first of all, the United States has been here before.
We've attempted this in Iraq and in Afghanistan and whatever
the military UH said before, how it articulated its military objectives,
and then what the political leadership of the United States
thought they were doing. What we found over and over
is that we don't actually understand the internal dynamics, the
different centers of power within these countries that are so
far away from America's borders and rarely do things as planned.
So we're not really talking about regime change anyway. What
Rellis are talking about is regime collapse, and nobody actually
knows exactly what would happen on the other side of that,
Nor do we have any confidence that the current thug
mafia government in Tehran wouldn't be replaced by just another
set of goons committed to the nuclear program, to exporting terrorism,
to all the ways in which Iran is a real
destabilizing force. So without any articulation of exactly what the
United States seeks and whether or not it could deliver
or affect any sort of change that would keep the
Middle East more peaceful and stable, better for Israel, better
for the United States, we should really be thinking twice
about joining a mission if the objective is regime collapse.
Speaker 2: But what do the American people think about this whole
process of maybe getting involved, maybe not getting involved. Harry Enton,
the Statistician, has the very latest on how the Republican
Party is acting with all of this. One of them
you've got I told you the last couple of days
about there's a split within the MAGA crowd. You've got
Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon on one side of the
aisle saying no, no, no, no no. You said Donald
Trump that no foreign wars. We're not going to work.
We're going to put an end to all that foreign
ward stuff, and we don't want to get involved in
any way, shape or form in any war with anybody else.
They're isolationists. Let's call them what they are. They're isolationists.
And Tucker, I know a number of you like Tucker.
I know Tucker. He kind of runs from one big
idea to another and it doesn't He's not consistent, is
my observation about how he feels. So this is great
for him because it gets a lot of attention because
he's bucking the system. He's going against what a lot
of Republicans are thinking in the hopes of getting more attention.
In my humble opinion, so Here's Harry with exactly what
I mean about whose Republican Party is this Donald Trump's
or Tucker Carlson's.
Speaker 9: This is what we should point out. This is Donald
Trump's GOP, not Tucker Carlsons. Now you mentioned what happens
when you go against Donald Trump. I mean this sort
of says at all.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 9: We've had these fights in the past. We had it
between Mike Pence and of course Donald Trump over the
twenty twenty election. We had it most recently Elon Musk
against Donald Trump GOP favoral bulls pre and post Trump fight.
Look at this pre fight Mike Pence very well beloved
by Republicans in eighty four percent favoral rating. Look where
he is now thirty six percent. When you go against
Donald Trump and you're Republican, you go down. How about
Elon Musk, Remember he was beloved by Republicans. He had
a seventy eight percent favrile rating with Republicans, but then
he fought Donald Trump, and what happened? He went down?
The bottom line is this Donald Trump's favoral rating state
steady or actually even went up when he won these
battles against Mike Pence, or Elon Musk. Well, if you
go up against Donald Trump and your Republican Republican affiliated,
your favoral ratings with Republicans, they go down. Traditionally speaking, Yeah,
this is Donald Trump's Republican party. The fabrial rating among Republicans.
You could see it here. Donald Trump beloved eighty eight
percent federal rating among Republicans near his apex. Tucker Carlson
is well liked among Republicans, but not anywhere in the
same universe as Donald Trump at sixty four percent, Tulsi
Gabbard fifty five percent. The bottom line is this, as
I said at the beginning, this is Donald Trump's Republican party,
not Tucker Carlson's, not Tulci Gabbert's. Republicans traditionally speaking, go
along with Donald Trump. And as we saw in that
last night, when you go against Donald Trump, you go down,
while Donald Trump stays.
Speaker 6: Quite quite high.
Speaker 9: And we yeah, I mean, look what we saw. What
we see in the data, you know, and I've looked
at a number of different polls, They've asked it different ways,
but the clear majority of Republicans in any poll that
you look gop on US air strikes against Iran if
Iron's pursuing nuclear arms. You see it here. The Republican
Party again is with Donald Trump sixty nine percent in
this particular poll from the Chicago Council that was taken
a few months ago, compared to twenty seven percent who
were opposed. But again, even if you look at the
other polling got it at all points in the same direction.
Republicans are with Donald Trump on this particular issue, and
they're with Donald Trump at large. And when you go
against Donald Trump, you go down.
Speaker 2: And Senator John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, the Democrat, was asked
again today he is very much pro Israel, very much
supportive of them. This is comments from one of the
hallways in Congress.
Speaker 11: I think it's right. Effectively, eighty percent of Americas thinks
that we should Iran should never acquire a nuclear weapon.
So like this isn't shocking, you know, it's like, this
is not war mongering, this is peace mongering. It's like,
you know, like Iran can't ever allow a nuclear facility
and a bomb, and so this is where we're at.
I mean, that's not controversial. It definitely should be controversial for.
Speaker 2: Democrats in Israel today. One of the rockets from Iran
hit a hospital, and you know the shades of the
fact that the Iranians are focusing on and targeting civilians.
Israel says that they're targeting military bases. What you can
make out about this hospital strike today was it may
have just been one of Iran's missiles that they don't
operate all that well, because it was a very short
distance from the hospital to a technology they call a
technology farm. But basically that may have been the target.
But regardless, they hit a hospital and people were heard,
and Benjamin Nett Yahoo showed up at the hospital to
see the damage. Outside the hospital, he gave a short
news conference and one of the reporters asked him about
Donald Trump getting involved or not, and he's and was asked,
what would you say to President Trump.
Speaker 10: President Trump will do what's best for America. I trust
his judgment. He's a tremendous friend, a tremendous world leader,
a tremendous friend of Israel and Jewish people, and we
will do what we have to do, and we are
doing it. We are committed to destroying the nuclear threat,
the threat of a nuclear and eye against Israel. We're
able to do it and we, of course will make
our own determination. But I have to say that the
partnership with the United States, the partnership with President Trump,
with whom I speak to almost every day, is incredible.
I think his resolve, his determination, in his clarity when
he says Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and for
that to take place, Iran cannot enrich uranium. It's as
simple as that he gave them the chance to do
it through negotiations. They strung him along, and you don't
string along Donald Trump. He knows the game, and I
think that we're both committed to making sure that Iran
will not have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: Obviously pretty clear coming from the Israeli Prime Minister. Larry Kudlow,
who was the economic advisor to President Trump and Trump
one point zero. Larry was asked today about all of this,
and he brought up the impact of this war and
the outcome of this war, whether the President strikes with
the Bunkerbuster or not, that the impact on the markets,
the polls, about who's supporting the president on this, and
about regime change. Here's Larry Kudlow. Trey Gowdy's right, it could.
Speaker 3: Happen anytime, right, I mean, these are not these artificial deadlines.
They're waiting to see Israel is doing what it's doing
to clear out as much military operations and including the
nuclear operations as they can, and then we'll see what
the president has in mind. The president has tremendous support
right now. That's very important. He has tremendous support. Pall
out this morning in the New York Post was sixty
five percent of MAGA Republicans back him, fifty eight to
twenty five. All Republicans, the people who voted for Trump,
ninety five percent are backing him though it was his leadership.
There is no appeasement anymore. This is bullish. I mean,
whatever the day is, whatever the timing is, this is
a very bullish, optimistic thing. We're going to clear out.
We're going to clear out one of the worst parts
of the world. We're going to get They will be
de nuclearized when this is all done. How, when, where
and why is not my area of expertise. But they
will be That is what the President wants. He has
said the same thing for twenty years. He is going
to do it. There is no Biden appeasement here. And
you have the possibility that a new Iran comes from this.
You have the Persian diaspora, wealthy bankers and investors and
business people. You have the son of the Shah. They'd
love to go in and finance the reconstruction of Iran
and get rid of the molocracy, which I think will happen.
Regime change has to come from within. I believe will happen.
This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Uncertainty.
It has no impact on us directly. It's not going
to impact our markets. It hasn't even really had an
impact on the oil price. Okay, we have the United
States as overwhelming military power as you know. So no,
just a good thing, and it's going to have a
good ending.
Speaker 2: He made a reference to Trey Goudie, So let's tune
in to find out what Trey's all about today.
Speaker 1: Because I want it. I did a little quick math,
which is actually hard for me, and I added up
all the electoral votes that the folks who are criticizing
President Trump got and I came up with zero. So
not a single one of the folks who wants Israel
to go it alone. God forbid, they were in charge
in World War Two. God forbid. I mean, America does
not sit on the sidelines when our friends and allies
are under attack. So we're in this isolationist wing. And
the party came from I know this. They weren't on
the ballot and they didn't win the presidency. And if
they have advice for President Trump, why don't you give
it to him in private instead of using social media.
I don't know him, like terribly well, but I knowing
well enough to know he doesn't appreciate public criticism. He
is Naga. He is America first. So when you are that,
you get to define what that means. And again, I
keep coming back to the point that there are several
critics too. One used to be on television, I think,
the other used to be in prison. I think those
are the two main critics together. They have received zero
electoral votes for president. Neither one of them has the
guts to Ron. So either run for president to be
the commander in chief, or critique in private, or better yet,
shut up.
Speaker 2: And finally, about Israel and Ron, an Israeli scholar by
the name of Elon Levy was asked about, all right,
you want to make sure that Ron doesn't have the bomb,
but what about this question of should Israel eliminate the Ayatola.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Israel intends to eliminate the evil
leader of Iran Attulahamenehi, but what I do know is
the region would be a better place without him. He
is someone who has impoverished his own people, enslaved the
whole Middle East in pursuit of his vision of destroying
the state of Israel. And now that Israel controls the
skies over Tehran, now that Israel has destroyed about two
thirds of Iran's launchers, now that Israel has killed the
head of the Iranian military and his successor only four
days later, I think he should be very careful before
he continues more indiscriminate attacks against Israeli civilians. It's a
stunning turnaround what Israel has been able to do. I mean,
imagine if the Allies controlled the skies of Berlin in
September nineteen thirty nine. Israel is systematically destroying the Iranian
regime's ability to continue waging war. It's knocked out its
proxy armies, knocking out its ballistic missile launchers, knocking out
its nuclear facilities, and Israel has made incredible progress against
that regime. That is an existential threat to Israel and
is also threatening the entire region. And I expect what
Israel is going to do. First, you disarm the Iranian
regime so it cannot continue shooting ballistic missiles at Israeli civilians,
and then go for the massive blow against the Iranian
nuclear program. President Trump is so right that nuclear weapons
are the biggest threat to world peace right now. They
cannot be allowed to fall in the hands of a
regime that continually vows death to America, death to Israel.
The most dangerous weapons in the world cannot fall in
the hands of the world's most dangerous regime.
Speaker 2: Switching topics, So, yesterday on the View, former Governor Arnold
Schwarzenegger was on the View and they were asking him
all kinds of questions. I don't think they liked his answer,
but the audience did. They were talking about immigration, and
since Arnold is an immigrant from Austria, he brought that
whole experience that he had up with the ladies on
the View. Listen to what he.
Speaker 5: Said, because I'm such a proud American, and the proud
immigrant became the America I was asked to do on
July fourth, a big speech the keynote speech at Mount
Vernon that George Washington was with the rest where he
lived and all that to celebrate the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of America, the existence of America. That we'll
be doing the speech that they asked me because I'm
an immigrant, and the people will be there will be
seven thousand some people there and we will be there
will be people that will be sworn in and will
become citizens that day. So it's really a great, great celebration.
This is what this is all about, is to celebrate
people becoming Americans, in coming to America and order. And
so I just think the world of the great kind
of a history that we have with immigrants in America.
But the key thing also is at the same time
that you got to do things legal. That is the
important thing, you know, So you got to do things legal.
And those people that are doing illegal things in America
and that are foreigners, they are not smart. Because when
you come to America, your guest, and you have to
behave like a guest. Like when I go to someone's
house and I'm a guest, then that will do everything
I can keep things clean and to make my pad
and to do everything that is the right thing to do,
rather than committing a crime or being abusive or something
like that. So that doesn't really work in this country.
So I think the important thing is when you become
an immigrant to think about, Okay, I go to America
because I'm going to use America for the great opportunities
that America has in education, in jobs, creating a family,
all of those kind of things. Then you have to
think about, Okay, if I get all of those things
from America, then I have to give something back. You
have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to
America and to pay back to America and to go
and do something for your community for no money. What's
to have a give something back to after school program,
special Olympics or whatever it is. Make this copy leaves Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the ladies of the view are rather quiet,
but they the audience loved what he said. In other words,
don't come here and commit crimes. He's obviously pro immigrant,
but he does not think that immigrants should be allowed
to come to this country and commit crimes. So that's
Arnold Schwarzenegger. And then finally, we don't do sports a lot.
But I have been an observer like a lot of
you of the WNBA and Caitlin Clark, who was the
big star in college. She's just an amazing athlete. She
can shoot baskets like nobody, and so she is now
in the WNBA. She plays for the I think it's
the Indiana Fever. Correct me if I'm wrong, But she
has enemies. The ladies that play in the w NBA
are not just physical. They are beating on her, knocking
her down, hitting her in the eye. And the referees
that the w NBA are doing nothing almost zero. And
a number of sports people are watching this. We talk
about women's sports. This is an opportunity. The audiences for
the WNBA games have skyrocketed. The attendance at their games
in the stadiums where they play is dramatically increased because
of this superstar Caitlin Clark. And I'm not suggesting that
they protect her, but it does make you wonder why
they allow this to go on. It's almost as if
everybody in the WNBA is jealous of her. Jim Gray,
the long time sports announcer, has this analysis.
Speaker 12: Sheldon all over Clark and oh, they get into it
a bit here. Lexi Hall now gets in Sheldon's face,
Kaitlin Clark hits the deck hera her.
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I'm here to play
basketball and that's my job.
Speaker 11: That's what I'm gonna do. I was excited, honestly, the
review took too long for me.
Speaker 13: I wanted to get playing basketball again, and that's exactly
what I did. And the officials don't get control of
the ballgame when they allow that stuff to happen. And
it's been happening all season long, all season long. It's
not just this game, it's been happening all season long.
This is what happens. Well, I guess it's good because
it gets a toewful. I mean, why are you trying
to do what you are doing? I mean, they have
handled this very poorly. It's been going on. It's a
very fine line between physical contact. Caitlyn Clark should get
physical contact, and she should be aware of that. It
happened to all of the greats in the NBA WNBA.
But they're jealous of Caitlin Clark. They're upset with Caitlin Clark.
They kept Caitlin Clark off the Olympic team. None of
this makes any sense. It's beyond idiotic.
Speaker 14: It's stupidity play the game of basketball, and when physical
play comes in and it's normal, then it should be
allowed to occur. This is all abnormal and they're going
after her and it's just ridiculous. They're so jealous. I
don't think this should be going on with Caitlin Clark.
I don't understand. You know, it's one thing to try
and throw her off her game. And again, physical play
happens in all sports, and Caitlin Clark is not immune
to that. She should not be treated with kid gloves.
But when you go out of your way to do
what they're doing, and this has gone on and on
and on the Indiana fever. You know, they have to
beat the referees, they have to beat their opponents. They
shouldn't have to beat physical play. They should not have
this constantly going on. If you're so jealous because somebody
else is so much better. Look, we all understand the
WNBA has been around for many decades now, and now
Caitlin Clark has come in and lifted this to another
lefe that should be that should be hugged. You shouldn't
want to give that the heisman and try and repel
against that. You should want to put your arm around that.
That doesn't mean don't make her play hard, but when
you go out of your way and you're flagrantly fouling
her and you're causing fights, Nobody, Hey, nobody wants to
see this. We want to see great basketball. Does Steph
Curry get knocked down repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly? Happen
sometimes and he keeps getting up, But then at some
point you have to understand you have to defend this man,
and you have to defend him within the context and
the confines of the rules. And I don't think that's
going on.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I mean, I would love to
see the WNBA continue to have the success and grow
on the success that Caitlin Clark has brought to that league.
But man, if they keep this up, it's going to
be roller Derby, and roller Derby didn't last very long.
So with that, well, no, I was going to wrap
up the show with the market. But the market there
was no market today. That's because it is It's juneteenth,
and the financial markets and the banks and the government
offices are closed. The rest of the world is seems
to be operating as usual, so thank you for coming
by today. We are going to be back here again tomorrow.
Hope to see you then