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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fearless Fabulous You. I am your host, Melanie Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like to empower women like you to make

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<v Speaker 1>confident choices about how they choose to live and how

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<v Speaker 1>they choose to take care of themselves and their loved ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk about something that's topical for

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<v Speaker 1>so many reasons and something many of us don't think about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is protecting your valuables. We know how we want

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<v Speaker 1>to protect our health and our loved ones, but what

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<v Speaker 1>about your possessions and your valuables. And why this comes

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<v Speaker 1>to light so much now is that my heart simply

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<v Speaker 1>breaks when I hear the stories about the so many

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<v Speaker 1>people who have lost everything in the California wildf fires,

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<v Speaker 1>including family photos and memento. I was, in fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>most number one thing they talk about is losing photos

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<v Speaker 1>and important family mementos. There are also personal effects and

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<v Speaker 1>of course valuable things like art and jewelry and your silver,

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<v Speaker 1>and things that are often not replaceable or could be replaceable,

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<v Speaker 1>but you may not have the proper documentation in place

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<v Speaker 1>to make that happen. So I live in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a high hurricane zone, and I moved here in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Before that, I lived in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City and had two apartments, both of which were burglarized.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually tell people I became an official New Yorker

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<v Speaker 1>when I was burglarized burglarized, and I learned to have

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<v Speaker 1>like six locks on my door. What I learned from

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<v Speaker 1>the experience when I had Renter's insurance, because I'm big

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<v Speaker 1>on getting everything insured, is that I was not sufficiently

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<v Speaker 1>insured for my grandmother's jewelry, which I inherited, which broke

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<v Speaker 1>my heart because I learned from the experience that I

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<v Speaker 1>had not had a jewelry schedule which would have enabled

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<v Speaker 1>me to claim my insurance properly. And that really stung

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<v Speaker 1>and it stay with me for the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>life and wherever I've lived. Whenever I have acquired a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of jewelry, the first thing I do is I

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<v Speaker 1>would get into a praiser to make sure I had

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<v Speaker 1>all the necessary documentation. The sad thing about the wildfires

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody lost everything, including their documentation. And I read

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<v Speaker 1>and heard that if your items are in a bank

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<v Speaker 1>vault and a safe, it doesn't mean they're covered by

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<v Speaker 1>the FDIC. Cringe because I used to keep all my

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry in a safety deposit box thinking that that was

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<v Speaker 1>okay and I could take it off my insurance. It's complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy, the insurance companies are making even more so.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. If you love and value something,

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<v Speaker 1>protect it, keep documentation in safe place, floodproof, and have

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<v Speaker 1>up to date appraisers. It's so important, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about that sometimes when we worry about the cost.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk about that today so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can decide what makes sense for you to protect

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<v Speaker 1>your beautiful things so you can pass them on to

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<v Speaker 1>the people you love. And so we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking with today on Fearless, Fabulous You. Ed O'Brien he

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<v Speaker 1>is a certified appraiser for more than thirty years. He

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<v Speaker 1>trained with a Gemological Institute of America, the GIA and

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<v Speaker 1>Diamonds and Colored Stones. It's a comprehensive education to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that every appraisal conducted by Ed is performed with the

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<v Speaker 1>highest level of professionals and precision. Now that's important because

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard stories of people that didn't go and

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<v Speaker 1>select the proper people or maybe sold, you know, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to sell jewelry to someone who was rably not authorized

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<v Speaker 1>to deal and they ran into some problems. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to run into problems when it's something precious. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to Ed about what steps you

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<v Speaker 1>should take if you want to protect your valuables. Ed

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Fearless Fabulous You, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Melanie, Thank you for having me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I want to start, I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know for full disclosure, that Ed O'Brien appraised a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my jewelry that I inherited from my mother

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<v Speaker 1>and she did not have up to date appraisals, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about, so I couldn't get anything

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<v Speaker 1>a prey. I couldn't get anything protected by a jew

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry insurance coverage program because she didn't have up to

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<v Speaker 1>date appraisals. So I found Ed through a service, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had very high marks. So full disclosure. I

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<v Speaker 1>have worked with Ed, and I invited him on because

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing with the fires just really shook me.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I do recommend him. He's based in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, I'm based in the New Haven area, but

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<v Speaker 2>he came.

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<v Speaker 1>To New Orleans. He travels, and he came and it was great,

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<v Speaker 1>So Ed, welcome. I just wanted to get that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>full disclosure out. So Ed, let's talk about what you

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<v Speaker 1>should look for in an appraiser and are there different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of appraisers that you must consider?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, uh yes, I think that you have to find

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<v Speaker 3>an appraiser that is qualified, somebody who is knowledgeable of

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<v Speaker 3>market trends, somebody who has a credentials such as g

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<v Speaker 3>i A or National Association of Jewelry Appraisers. You really

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<v Speaker 3>need somebody who can look at a piece, knows how

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<v Speaker 3>it's manufactured, knows the manufacturing process, knows the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>replacement value in the retail value of it, and knows

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<v Speaker 3>what the actual costs would be should you have a loss,

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<v Speaker 3>you're able to have enough insurance to replace it. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there are many things that do go into an appraisal,

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<v Speaker 3>such as market fluctuations, that things change all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>What it's worth, you know, five years ago, might not

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<v Speaker 3>be what is what that item is worth today. So

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<v Speaker 3>you really need to make sure you find somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>knows the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important and to under also in the

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<v Speaker 1>score is I learned like a lot of the appraisal.

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<v Speaker 1>Appraisals I had were over ten, fifteen, even twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old. That didn't fly with the jewelry company.

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<v Speaker 1>With the I used Jewelers Mutual because it was recommended

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<v Speaker 1>by my renter's insurance. Because renters insurance will only cover

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Homeowners is a different ballgame. Okay, with homeowners

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<v Speaker 1>you can ask about jewelry coverage and art and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>but renters you're a little limited. So I actually ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going to Jewelers Mutual, which was recommended by people

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<v Speaker 1>to do a whole separate insurance policy. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring that out because they would not talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me until I had appraisals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you should really update appraisals at least every three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Might recommend two years, because again, things do change. Currently

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<v Speaker 3>right now in the market, we're going through a phase

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<v Speaker 3>where lab created diamonds are very popular, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dropping the value of natural diamonds. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>have an appraisal for say one carrot time and that

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<v Speaker 3>you got ten years ago, it would not be current

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<v Speaker 3>market value now, and you also might be paying higher

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<v Speaker 3>insurance rates for that because the prices have come down

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<v Speaker 3>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>You really should update your appraisal at least every two years.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the appraisal process, what do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table, and what should you expect the

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<v Speaker 1>appraiser to do and provide you in terms of documentation.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all you really need to bring is the item

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<v Speaker 3>and the jeweler and the appraiser should inspect the diamond

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<v Speaker 3>or any of the stones or even the carrot of

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<v Speaker 3>the metal into a full inspection and then they will

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<v Speaker 3>determine a value that's current to today's prices in the market.

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<v Speaker 3>And you should get a detailed report itemizing all the stones,

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<v Speaker 3>all their clarities, their collar, the grade of each and

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<v Speaker 3>every individual stone in the item, whether it be a

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<v Speaker 3>bracelet and necklace spring, the metal, whether it's ten car

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen care platinum. And then you should get a detailed

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<v Speaker 3>description of the item, something that say you should have

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<v Speaker 3>a loss and lose that piece. You should be able

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<v Speaker 3>to read that narrative and replace that item and know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what that item is just by reading that narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really has to be a detailed description of

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<v Speaker 2>each item.

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<v Speaker 3>Pictures also should be included if whenever possible. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, It's not always necessary, but a picture on

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<v Speaker 3>the appraisal is always something to look back should you

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<v Speaker 3>have a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think pictures are essential and I have had. I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with many appraisers. I worked with the praisers when

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in New York. I had appraisers in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>When my mother would buy me jewelry. You gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a very detailed appraisal with photos and detailed commentary. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you spent like five hours in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great because you actually came, you were in

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans and ended up you know, coming, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really comforting because I didn't want have to take

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff anywhere. It was great. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that even if listeners, if you choose not to

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<v Speaker 1>get anything appraised or not, I do recommend it. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's valuable, you should be taking a photo of everything

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<v Speaker 1>in your house where it is, whether it's on the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, on a shelf, and a jore that

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<v Speaker 1>you do not want to lose, and you should create

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<v Speaker 1>a spreadsheet or a list because when disaster strikes, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to have documentation. I have done that with every

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<v Speaker 1>room in my house. So the photos are really important,

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<v Speaker 1>and I keep them in the cloud because obviously and

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<v Speaker 1>if you are evacuating, you should be able you should

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<v Speaker 1>have that any printouts with you. But you should keep

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<v Speaker 1>everything also in a cloud because if your house does

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<v Speaker 1>burned down, everything is gone correct and.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so important too to keep the appraisal documents

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere where they're safe, where they're fireproof, they're waterproof. But

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<v Speaker 3>also keep them if you can, and ever possible, off

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<v Speaker 3>site of your location, because say your house.

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<v Speaker 2>Burns or there is a flood or a fire, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to get to that.

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<v Speaker 3>So a safety deposit box the cloud is very uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a very good idea. I recommend that highly

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<v Speaker 3>also be able to you have to think ahead, like I,

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<v Speaker 3>should you have a loss, you have to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get to that documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we learned when that when unfortunately, when the Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades burned down, so did the banks. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a mess. So because the everybody lost everything

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<v Speaker 1>in the safety deposit box and I learned it was

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<v Speaker 1>not covered by the bank. So are there do you

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<v Speaker 1>know of any apps or anything that deals specifically with

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<v Speaker 1>keeping your documents secure. I'm sure there are some I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if of them myself, But do you know

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<v Speaker 1>of any that you would recommend?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know of any specific, but there there are

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<v Speaker 3>many wallets where you can keep that. Also, your insurance

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<v Speaker 3>company should should have a copy of it on file,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, should you ever need to get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what I do is I have I have a

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<v Speaker 1>print out, I have a print out I have in

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud in my in my in my cloud, the

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft cloud, and I'm probably going to find a wallet also,

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, you're ensure should have detail as well, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can't have any shared unless it's in praise,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of a catch twenty two. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to have it appraised here, you know, so in case

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<v Speaker 3>you have a loss, your insurance company will have a

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<v Speaker 3>copy of that.

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<v Speaker 1>What kinds of things do you feel? Obviously it's really

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<v Speaker 1>up to the person, But do you feel really important

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<v Speaker 1>to have a praise right now? You actually caught me

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<v Speaker 1>with a lab diamond comment because I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>to have ensured. What do you what are things that

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I think anything of value, anything at least in

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<v Speaker 3>the jewelry, I say anything over say a thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen hundred dollars value anything as you acquire new gifts

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<v Speaker 3>or new pieces. But you should also have your art

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<v Speaker 3>a praise. Any important and valuable art should be a praise. Collectibles,

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<v Speaker 3>there's many collectibles out there that have very high value.

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<v Speaker 3>They should be a praise. Should you ever have a loss,

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<v Speaker 1>Been replacement right, Because there's loss and there's replacement. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to just say it's a big difference because

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be a replacement value insurance policy schedule correct.

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<v Speaker 1>And I learned that when I was robbed, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it's so important to have your appraisal was

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<v Speaker 3>updated every few years. You know you couldn't inherit a

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<v Speaker 3>value in replacement right now where you have it under appraise,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you'll never be able to replace it for

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<v Speaker 1>And you said every three years, maybe three to five.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's five years. I don't know every insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>need to ask how do you handle fine art, jewelry

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<v Speaker 1>collectibles because every insurance is different.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, And like I said, I recommend two to three

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<v Speaker 1>So you do know, and you're you specialize in jewelry appraisals,

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<v Speaker 2>I do silverware, silver silver sets, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>like serving sets, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I le've talked discussed it because I inherited silver,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the appraisals are like from when my

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<v Speaker 1>and silver has fluctuated. I'm in the process of getting

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<v Speaker 1>all that addressed as well. And also it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>down or whatever, but also if you choose to sell something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have been in what I call the

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't price anything properly. Or when I would take it

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<v Speaker 1>to an auction house and they would give me an estimate,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know somebody's joshing with you or not, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have the appraisal, they may say, well, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's an appraisal for replacement. But we all know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in wholesale it's differ. You'll get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pushback, but at least you have that appraisal. Particularly

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<v Speaker 1>if you're selling something, whether you're selling it yourself invaluable

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<v Speaker 1>or eBay or first DIBs, you can say I have

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<v Speaker 1>I just did this. You could say I have an

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<v Speaker 1>appraisal or an authentic letter of authentication, and that protects

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, especially if you're selling to an auction house

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to know the value so they don't take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of you. You know, and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>So at least you're not going to get the full

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<v Speaker 3>retail replacement value, but you know the cost of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're right, a letter of authenticity that's a tough

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<v Speaker 3>word to get out right now. That's helping the value

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<v Speaker 3>of selling it privately also, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's important, particularly if you don't know. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give some scenarios. I had a squash blossom that

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't find any markings on it, but I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get a letter of authenticity so I could sell it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you I learned when you came into praise of my

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<v Speaker 1>joy A piece two pieces I just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>snubbed at and didn't think they were worth much actually

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that quite often happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was very surprised by that, and yet not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Not funny the quote diamond earrings that my mother gave

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<v Speaker 1>me with great fanfare for my birthday, ended up to

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<v Speaker 1>be cubic circonias, which you know, my mother has passed.

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<v Speaker 1>But a did my mother tried to pass them off

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<v Speaker 1>to me as diamonds that knew they were czs or

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<v Speaker 1>did the store sell her czs instead of diamonds. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>never know, but I kind of cringed thinking about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would hate to know that my mother thought

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<v Speaker 1>she was giving me diamonds and they were CZ's. That

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean you could take comforted it was

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<v Speaker 1>But but if I had gone to a do A

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean a jeweler's mutual where I use and

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<v Speaker 1>said I have you know, or somebody that said, oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>just appraises for whatever, or tried to sell them, it

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<v Speaker 1>could have been really messy. So you know, again the

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<v Speaker 1>value of getting appraisals is one to protect things that

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<v Speaker 1>you cherish and don't want to lose, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that if something happens, whether it's lost, stolen, damaged, displaced, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you have documentation and appraisal. But also if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to sell something, you know that you can you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Right in for internity.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, whether you're looking for the monetary value of

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<v Speaker 3>it or you want to replace it, it's it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have it at a level that

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<v Speaker 3>you can replace something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really really important. Are there other scenarios that

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners should weigh in when they're working with an appraiser.

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<v Speaker 2>Currently?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I think a lot of people are going towards electronically.

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<v Speaker 3>Electronic is okay as long as you have the proper information.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of times you don't have to travel, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to have you Julia appraise. You know, the process does

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<v Speaker 3>not take that long it should take electronically should take

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<v Speaker 3>a day or two if you send it somewhere or

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<v Speaker 3>you're on site, typically about one to two weeks. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not really a hard process. Again, I'm doing electronically all

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<v Speaker 3>over the country and a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people are these days. That also is accepted by many

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<v Speaker 3>insurance companies, So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would uh, so you would be contented by your website,

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<v Speaker 1>which is objewelers dot com. Ob as a boy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I would upload photos that I take with my

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<v Speaker 1>phone onto your website and you would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do the evaluation that way. I are you have to

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<v Speaker 1>send specific photos. I would think you'd have to send

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<v Speaker 1>anything as market as close up, side, yes, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>As many photos as you can, with as much detail

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<v Speaker 3>as you can. If you when you're updating, it's even easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Just getsend a copy of the old appraisal with the

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<v Speaker 3>photo and then that has the information we should have

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<v Speaker 3>the information needed and then really just detailed like you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>markings front, backside.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the old appraisal is important. I still have

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<v Speaker 1>the old appraisals. Even though I got everything, I still

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<v Speaker 1>keep the old appraisals and builds a cell because that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tells a history of the item.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Anything will make you right and it's important to

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<v Speaker 2>the appraiser.

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<v Speaker 3>Also all that information should you have it, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>not necessary. If you don't have it, pictures are fine,

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<v Speaker 3>you can go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>My advice would be if you buy something or your

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<v Speaker 1>gifted ask I mean every time my mother give me a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of jewel, I'm say, did you get praise? Because

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<v Speaker 1>with the piece of joey should come in appraisal. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and data sale because it does make a

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<v Speaker 1>difference when you were if that person is no longer

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I had to go through a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things in my mother's estate, my grandmother's joy. We just

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<v Speaker 1>did it with my mother in law, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she's still alive, but we're right now doing it with

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<v Speaker 1>some of her boxes of jewelry. And it made keeping

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<v Speaker 1>that documentation is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Important, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>And anything you know a receipt you can just go

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<v Speaker 3>from from that, that can be the documentation documentation you

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<v Speaker 3>send with the photos.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's important to clarify you were an appraiser,

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<v Speaker 1>so the services you provide are appraisal services. You don't well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, so what about people who have like

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<v Speaker 1>I had. We had a big box of jewelry mishmash,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just wanted to know what what we could

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<v Speaker 1>just sell just get rid of. Do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I do a thumb brokering for certain pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of dealers and we can broke a jewelry,

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<v Speaker 3>we can buy scrap gold.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share an experience, so we have done

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<v Speaker 1>that a few times. I've done it through a jeweler.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say who. I don't know if I've got

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<v Speaker 1>the best, but you know, I have to trust them.

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<v Speaker 1>But we recently did it down in New Orleans with

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<v Speaker 1>I had to giggle. It's giggle, not giggle, right, funny,

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<v Speaker 1>not funny. My husband went with a big thing of coins.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I dragged him in because I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get rid of these boxes. And we had

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<v Speaker 1>I've sorted and went through the box of his mom's

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<v Speaker 1>just box of jewelry and a suitcase of jewelry and

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<v Speaker 1>a box of coins. And we learned the coins were

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<v Speaker 1>all fake, which is kind of depressing. We learned that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the bits and pieces of jewelry, bits

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<v Speaker 1>and pieces and some that we wouldn't have, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any visible markings. There was gold in them on

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<v Speaker 1>silver sure. And you know, so we left with a

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<v Speaker 1>nice wat of cash. So don't throw it away. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>just start giving it to donate here, there and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it to someone who can look through the bits

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<v Speaker 1>and pieces, and I mean bits and pieces, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of its bits and pieces or full pieces, and you

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<v Speaker 1>may end up whether it's through ed or someone local,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's important also to trust the person.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found you you had I think it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those job sites. I was just looking because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know who to go to New Orleans. Everybody quotes

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<v Speaker 1>you all sorts of prices, which is a whole another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The prices can vary very much, and it can also

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<v Speaker 1>very based on volume. But you had a lot of

425
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<v Speaker 1>recommendations and that made me feel good. And then you

426
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<v Speaker 1>also were willing to be in New Orleans. You swung through,

427
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.039
<v Speaker 1>so it worked out great and I had a great experience.

428
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<v Speaker 1>If you live anywhere that you may not have appraisers,

429
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<v Speaker 1>you can say, go to someone who lives elsewhere and

430
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<v Speaker 1>do an online appraisal. And I would urge you not

431
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<v Speaker 1>to settle. And I'm going to say that because in

432
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<v Speaker 1>I won't say my formers where I used to live.

433
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<v Speaker 1>But somebody was just one of the well known, high

434
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<v Speaker 1>visibility people in the business of buying and selling gold

435
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>has just been arrested.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Right, You do hear a lot of that. You have

437
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<v Speaker 2>to check.

438
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you need to find people that have gold reputations.

439
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>They have to be solid gold reputations. So get referrals,

440
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:37.079
<v Speaker 1>ask to see examples of appraisers appraisers. It don't necessarily want.

441
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, your jeweler may not be the best person

442
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<v Speaker 1>depending on who your jeweler is asked to see how

443
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>they appraise. Because I've had jewelers, some give me good appraisers,

444
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>some not in terms of appraisals, right.

445
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<v Speaker 3>You have to keep in mind also, you know the

446
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<v Speaker 3>price for appraisal. A lot of people do percentages of

447
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.759
<v Speaker 3>the value. You should really try and stay away from

448
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<v Speaker 3>that because I think that leads to the poss ability

449
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.359
<v Speaker 3>of overinflated appraisals, you know, just.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Shack up the price, but then you're also paying higher insurance.

451
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<v Speaker 1>So that can be very Yes, per peace, I mean,

452
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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about the diamond I mean I had the

453
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<v Speaker 1>appraisal for the diamond ring. I'm now thinking I should

454
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<v Speaker 1>have had it reappraised by you because I'm concerned I'm

455
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<v Speaker 1>paying way too much. And you just brought up that

456
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<v Speaker 1>point that lab diamonds are cutting into natural diamonds, which

457
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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a shocking thing for me to hear

458
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<v Speaker 1>from you. So that's important too, because many people are

459
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<v Speaker 1>giving diamond engagement rings who're buying diamond tennis bracelets, and

460
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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of diamonds circulating on the resale market

461
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>or invaluable or live auctioneers. There's a lot. In your opinion,

462
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<v Speaker 1>do you have an opinion on lab versus natural?

463
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think natural is probably always a better way

464
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<v Speaker 3>to go, but the price point is, you know, much higher.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Lab created diamonds are big the other the exact same

466
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<v Speaker 3>composition of a diamond just created in a lab. But

467
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, the natural is probably always the better way

468
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<v Speaker 3>to go because it is the real thing. But again

469
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 3>we're we're talking probably you know, five times the price.

470
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<v Speaker 1>So what about other stones? Are there other stones of

471
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<v Speaker 1>that are increasing in value that we should be aware of.

472
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Tanzanite is always, uh something that increases in value. They do.

473
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 3>There are lab created gemstones also, sapphires, rubies, emeralds. They're

474
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<v Speaker 3>doing those lab created these days. They have to be

475
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 3>careful of that. But as far as natural stones.

476
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I think right now, tanzanite is something that's increasing.

477
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<v Speaker 1>Interesting cyber tanzanite. That was my engagement ring. My engager

478
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<v Speaker 1>is tanzanite. What about gold virtine? Carrot versus eighteen carrot

479
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 1>versus I think you get you price the ten carret.

480
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>You said that was actually what's the difference.

481
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 3>The difference is the amount of gold, the percentage of

482
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<v Speaker 3>gold versus alloys in the piece. If you're wearing a

483
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 3>piece every day, I would recommend fourteen care because it's

484
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 3>a little harder and more durable. Ten carrots even more

485
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 3>durable than fourteen carre the higher you go. The eighteen

486
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>carrot twenty twenty two carre is much softer, doesn't wear

487
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 3>as well, but there's a higher percentage.

488
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Of gold within the metal. So that's what you know.

489
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Carrot is the percentage of gold in the actual metal.

490
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<v Speaker 1>So what it says gold filled, is there a value

491
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>because there is gold in it if you just want

492
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 1>to like get rid of it.

493
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Goldfield is it's very low value, so you need a

494
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.359
<v Speaker 3>lot of it to see any any kind of you know,

495
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>substainful money.

496
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's there's gold and gold field.

497
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<v Speaker 1>And I learned that when I went to go get

498
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 1>rid of stuff. I was like, wow, it's gold filled.

499
00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 1>There's some money, you know, like you know, And I

500
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>underscore this because a lot of people just go and

501
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>do estate sales and or go to them or do

502
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>them or yard sales and declutter and they just say,

503
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I just want to take this stuff and get rid

504
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of it. And they need to understand. I mean, there

505
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of companies out there that will gladly

506
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>buy your jewelry for a low price so they can

507
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 1>resell it elsewhere. See that's why it's really good. I

508
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 1>mean they advertise all the time in New York. And

509
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>some people just are in an emotional state where they

510
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 1>just want to get rid of stuff, or maybe they

511
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 1>just need money. Yeah, but you got to do your homework.

512
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 1>And I know when you need money and you just

513
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of something, I know how hard

514
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that can be. You just want to take whatever, but

515
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you got to do your homework.

516
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>You got to do your homework right. And gold is

517
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>very high right now.

518
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 3>So a scenario that I come across a lot is

519
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>somebody has a broken say class mind of chain.

520
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>They'll get it replaced at a jeweler.

521
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 3>You should always ask for that broken part back because

522
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 3>it could be valuable just that piece. The jeweler will

523
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 3>keep that and I'll tell you about that. You know,

524
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 3>go and sell it and yeah, make money. As you know,

525
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of something you should always even little parts

526
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>are can be valuable.

527
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to just touch on that because it's also

528
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 1>important when you're asking a jeweler to reset something. I've

529
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>heard stories. In fact, my facialists said that when they

530
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>got the mother's diamond ring back, it wasn't a diamond

531
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 1>anymore in there when they gave it to a jeweler.

532
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>So you've got to be very careful about that. What

533
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>should you be doing if you're taking some jewelry into

534
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>get repaired.

535
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>If it's a say it's a diamond ring or something valuable,

536
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 3>that's another reason why you should have an appraisal to

537
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>prove what you get back is what you gave them

538
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 3>when you take it in. If you don't have an appraisal,

539
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 3>you should really try and you know, like not like

540
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>document something on the diamond that you can point out

541
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 3>later or recognize later to make sure it's the same one.

542
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, hear horror stories like that all the

543
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>time in the industry.

544
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it happens as much as everybody says,

545
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>but you know, it's something you have to be careful.

546
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 3>And again, an appraisal would prove what you're brought in

547
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>is what you get back.

548
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, how would you know, you'd have to take it

549
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else to have them check it, because you're not

550
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 1>going to check it at the jeweler, right, So.

551
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>You'd have to have the appraisal done friar.

552
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then when you get the ring back, you

553
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's the same ring. How do you know?

554
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it looks like you're the ring that

555
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 1>was appraised, how would you know that it's not authentic.

556
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>You'd have to go somewhere to have them check it again.

557
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, You have to have somebody check it again, right,

558
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you know.

559
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>If it's that valuable, you should, you know. I think

560
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the point about getting the piece of broken chain back,

561
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. I think that's so important. A lot of

562
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.039
<v Speaker 1>people don't think about that, you know. Or if you're

563
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>getting a new setting for a ring or ear rings,

564
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're going from clip back to pierce or

565
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.319
<v Speaker 1>pierce to clip back, ask for the pieces back, right exactly.

566
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I had to do that once. I think

567
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 1>that that's really a great point. And what about silver,

568
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 1>same thing sterling versus nine two five? What are the

569
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>differences there? That?

570
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Again is the amount the amount of silver also in

571
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the in the metal and you should always get that back.

572
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Also, going back to your point on having your.

573
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Your diamond switched or anything like that, you should always

574
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>look for a jeweler that can do things while you wait,

575
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 3>and there are a lot of them out there. Even

576
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 3>if you have something reset, they order the mounting, then

577
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.519
<v Speaker 3>you come in and they'll set the stones while you

578
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>while you watch. So so if.

579
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>You take something in this broken class, but they'll say, well,

580
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll call you when it's ready.

581
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something as far as that, like soldering a chain

582
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>or fixing a class is, I would think that would

583
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>be fine. They aren't going to take your a little

584
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 3>bit of gold, I would imagine much. They're very unscrupulable.

585
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 3>But a diamond ring, so you have a valuable diamond

586
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 3>ring something you should wait for and if they tell

587
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>you that they're going to send it out or call

588
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 3>you in two weeks, take it somewhere else where you

589
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 3>can do it while they wait.

590
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And there are a lot of jewelers out there that

591
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>do do that. If they're a good jeweler, they'll be

592
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>able to do it while you wait.

593
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's such a great point.

594
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like you said, I've been in the business

595
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty years. I have a shop and we do everything

596
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>while you wait.

597
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 3>We had cameras on the benches at one point with

598
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>big monitors so people can watch.

599
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just want to point out on Obi you

600
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 1>have obijewelers dot Shop as well as obijewelers dot com,

601
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and you have jewelry for sale. You also have custom

602
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>made jewelry that you can do, you said, and other

603
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>consulting services. So that's good to know as well for

604
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 1>anyone shopping around. And you gotta be careful. And I'm

605
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 1>going to say, I'm sure in my life I have

606
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 1>made some costly mistakes because we have. As I've talked

607
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to as I listened to you, I'm older and white

608
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>and more careful. Now I'm going to say this everyone

609
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 1>listening when you were in what if you were buying

610
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:11.799
<v Speaker 1>jewelry or selling jewelry, take your time with it, don't

611
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>rush it. And I know that many people, including me,

612
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we'll buy something in a fit of passion or

613
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 1>anger or whatever's emotion and it could be too good

614
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to be true. We all go online and look, we're

615
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 1>all on eBay and Facebook, Marketplace and all the on

616
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>site things. You've got to be really careful. You definitely

617
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 1>have to know what you're looking for and trust where

618
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's coming from because it can be too good to

619
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>be true. And on the flip side, if you're selling something,

620
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 1>you need to make sure you have an authenticity factory.

621
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I just recently went through this, not with jewelry, but

622
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 1>with a designer bag. In a designer bag had the

623
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>designer box and had the designer everything, and I think

624
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I bought it at a charity auction. It was so

625
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 1>long ago, but I never used it, and I sold

626
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 1>it on eBay and the buyer's like, it's fake, and

627
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I was like, huh, and I couldn't you know, because

628
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>then I probably bought it fake. So I just nipped

629
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 1>it in the buds to send it back full reef

630
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. But the lesson I learned with it, and

631
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I am taking it to the designer's store to have

632
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>them authenticate it for sure. But just there was that

633
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<v Speaker 1>one moment where she said, well, I have one just

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<v Speaker 1>like it and it's not the same, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see a photo of yours before you

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<v Speaker 1>send mine back, because you know, immediately I'm like, are

637
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<v Speaker 1>you switching me out? So there's a lot of things,

638
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what it looks like. It came back,

639
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<v Speaker 1>it looks fine, but I am taking it to the store.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I learned from the experience is if you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to go and try to sell some of

642
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<v Speaker 1>your precious things online because you need to make money

643
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<v Speaker 1>in eBay or whatever, get necessary paperwork, take the time

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<v Speaker 1>and do it and factor it in that into the

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<v Speaker 1>price if there's a cost, because you don't want to

646
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<v Speaker 1>get tripped.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, right. Yeah, it's so important to be educated on

648
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<v Speaker 2>what you're selling or buying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do your homework and time, and also go and

650
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<v Speaker 1>look at this. You know a lot of the prices

651
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<v Speaker 1>are inflated. Uh, so go and I'm gonna say because

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<v Speaker 1>I learned this, you know, go to the soul section

653
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<v Speaker 1>to see what things are being sold for. There's several

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<v Speaker 1>There's one for subscription called Worthpoint that I recommend Live

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<v Speaker 1>auctioneers invaluable eBay summer subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Some are not.

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<v Speaker 1>But do your homework to see what things are selling for,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, if it is a value, get an appraiser.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have another question. We talk about fine jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you appraise find vintage jewelry that may be costume,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of costume jewelry. Now that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a value. Is there a way to appraise that or

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<v Speaker 1>is that another process?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's something we are praise all the time. Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>vintage constume jewelry we can do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of that.

667
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<v Speaker 3>The metal is a different metal, different stones, but you

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<v Speaker 3>have to find somebody very knowledgeable on that also.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's definitely something possible and something we can handle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's important as well as I'm thinking about some

671
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<v Speaker 1>of the pieces I have because I ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of vintage jewelry and I've become self educated

673
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<v Speaker 1>in the process. But knowing that you can do vintage

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry as well as fine as I'm already thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>some pieces the next time I utilize your services that

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm seeing their market value. The resale value is

677
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<v Speaker 1>quite high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some of the Turn of the century or our

679
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<v Speaker 2>Deco pieces, or.

680
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<v Speaker 3>During the depression that was very popular, but those pieces

681
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<v Speaker 3>have become very valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope every everybody listening is taking all this in

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<v Speaker 1>because I truly believe that for people out there, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>if you are inheriting or cleaning out a house or

685
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<v Speaker 1>you're going to an estate sale or you're thinking about

686
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<v Speaker 1>a gig business where you're selling online. This is good

687
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<v Speaker 1>information to understand. There is value in many things you

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<v Speaker 1>have that you may not realize and you don't know

689
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<v Speaker 1>until you get someone to work with you to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an honest fare appraisal.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. And if you have a gig business, if something

692
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<v Speaker 2>that can be factored right into.

693
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<v Speaker 1>The price exactly. And I have done that, is I

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<v Speaker 1>factored in appraiser costs. And because I want to show

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<v Speaker 1>that and say I can send you if you purchase this,

696
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 1>you will have a copy of the appraisal. You still

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<v Speaker 1>have to go get a new appraisal because it's under

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<v Speaker 1>your name.

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<v Speaker 3>But at least you have that backup, right, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking to ensure it. It has to be under

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<v Speaker 3>your name and you're you know, assured in a specific

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<v Speaker 3>address spot. Yeah that's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very very important. And like I said, I have

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<v Speaker 1>used worked with Ed. He gave me a very detailed appraisal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a process. I had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I ensure with jewelers mutual. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>affiliation with them. It's just that when I went to

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<v Speaker 1>and every state is different, Every insurance is different. Louisiana

709
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<v Speaker 1>is tough to get insurance, period. So I bit the

710
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<v Speaker 1>bullet and went with Jeweler's mutual because it was the

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<v Speaker 1>best I could do for what I had with all

712
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<v Speaker 1>this appraised jewelry. And then as I go and decided

713
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<v Speaker 1>to sell some of it, I can more confidently do

714
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<v Speaker 1>it working through an auction house or trying to resell

715
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<v Speaker 1>it myself, whatever you have ed do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you need to know when you go to

717
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<v Speaker 1>resell something, if you're having a third party do it,

718
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<v Speaker 1>You've got to find out what the costs are involved,

719
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<v Speaker 1>because there's specific costs for selling it auction, and there's

720
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<v Speaker 1>specific cost if somebody's reselling for you, and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to work that out in advance, and heaven writing right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And also if it doesn't sell, how are you gonna

723
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<v Speaker 1>pick it up? If it's you know, there's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other topic, but it all starts with knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>the value is exactly. Well, and I really enjoyed talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you. What how can my listeners find and is

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<v Speaker 1>there any parting words you want to say share?

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<v Speaker 2>Just that you can contact me through ob Jewelers.

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<v Speaker 3>We do electronic appraisals, but like we did yours, we

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<v Speaker 3>also do travel throughout the country. I'm always on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, usually specific number of pieces make that worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 3>But any questions, it's Obejewelers dot Com. I'm always available.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, something I want to tell my listeners is

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<v Speaker 1>if you live in a city where you may have

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<v Speaker 1>some friends who have items. You know, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for to travel, but it can make it worth

737
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<v Speaker 1>his while and you help you and your friends if

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<v Speaker 1>you say, look, I have a great appraiser if you

739
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<v Speaker 1>have items to be a praise, let's make a date

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<v Speaker 1>and let's contact him, and then it makes it worth

741
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<v Speaker 1>it for you to come to that market if you're

742
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<v Speaker 1>you know, sweeping through. So that's another way to do it.

743
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<v Speaker 1>And then you are helping your friends out as well

744
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<v Speaker 1>because they can come and hire ed while he's in

745
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<v Speaker 1>town if they want to do it in person. But

746
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<v Speaker 1>like you said, like you said, you can do it

747
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<v Speaker 1>online as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there are many times we'll go to you know,

749
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<v Speaker 3>I'll go to a city where there's you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>all five items here, five items there. I'll spend a

751
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<v Speaker 3>couple of days traveling, you know, going through those clients.

752
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<v Speaker 3>So it's not like doesn't all have been one place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, You've really provided a lot of good information that

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<v Speaker 1>I hope will help my listeners find peace of mind

755
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<v Speaker 1>as they decide how to protect and preserve their fine

756
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 1>valuables as well, because we want to do that. You

757
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<v Speaker 1>want to protect your health, you want to protect your wealth,

758
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to protect your loved ones, you want to

759
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<v Speaker 1>protect what you have and own. Because everything is so

760
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 1>uncertain right now. So the most certain thing you can

761
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<v Speaker 1>do is get appraisals and insurance and know where everything

762
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is in your documentation and you're not desperately trying to

763
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>find all this in moments of chaos exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would like to offer anybody in California and

765
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<v Speaker 3>the fires any help.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm very happy to help, So just reach out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my heart just breaks. I have two friends who've

768
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 1>lost everything. It's just really upsetting. And for all of

769
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you in California who are suffering, my heart, our hearts

770
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>go out to you. We want to help and for everyone,

771
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and whether it's the Carolinas and the floods, I've loved

772
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<v Speaker 1>friends and who were hit by Hurricane Helene as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that if anything, this show can help you

774
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 1>as you rebuild your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and if I can guide anybody through the process,

776
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 3>just reach out and give me, give me a call,

777
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<v Speaker 3>contact me at Obijewelers dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be glad to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Ed O'Brien, I've really enjoyed talking

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Thank you for helping me get through the

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<v Speaker 1>process as well, and I hope for everyone listening this

782
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<v Speaker 1>has been another enlightening show. I'm fearless fabulous you because

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<v Speaker 1>remember you have many choices in life. Please choose being

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<v Speaker 1>fearless and fabulous. Thank you,
