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<v Speaker 1>A Boundleish Authenticity podcast. Karen Holton is an ety and

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<v Speaker 1>angelic experiencer, author, exopolitical ambassador, and hosts of the Quantum

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<v Speaker 1>Guides Show and Aliens and Angels podcast. Through her work

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<v Speaker 1>as a transdimensional channel and holistic coach, Karen shares insights

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<v Speaker 1>on awakening, ascension, and personal empowerment. Her book, Transdimensional Meet

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<v Speaker 1>the New Neighbors explores her extraordinary experiences and is available

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon. Follow her journey and content across social media

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<v Speaker 1>at Karen Holton Tv. How's it going, It's owen great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me on your show, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the very very nice introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you're welcome. You're also the admin of

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<v Speaker 1>the Boundless Authenticity Podcast group on Facebook for anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to join, and you're on Facebook, you can join

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<v Speaker 1>in and share your posts. We recently had a very

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<v Speaker 1>troubling issue happening there where there was a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing. I do my best on this

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<v Speaker 1>show to bring people who I feel are authentic, But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you get people that they just asked to be

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<v Speaker 1>on and I let them come on, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>benevolent towards them and everything and I try to understand

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<v Speaker 1>their opinions. Sometimes it doesn't really work out because there's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a thing going on where the person is

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<v Speaker 1>a snake in the grass, so to speak, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what happened. I have no problem dropping names.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Thames, you will see her episode Time for Disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>was on here. He had also noticed that I was

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<v Speaker 1>asking certain questions and I wasn't getting good answers to

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<v Speaker 1>those questions because that person didn't know the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>the question that they claim to be an expert on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying that because there's a lot of frauds

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<v Speaker 1>out there and a lot of people that are looking

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<v Speaker 1>to mislead you. And the issue that we had in

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<v Speaker 1>the group was that Nancy took it upon herself to

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<v Speaker 1>block and ban Karen from the group from posting her

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<v Speaker 1>podcast stuff. It wasn't hurting anybody probably it was like

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<v Speaker 1>three formulae even five posts a day maximum, And meanwhile

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy's posting twenty five twenty seven plus times a day

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<v Speaker 1>absolute garbage, which is AI generated stuff that she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pass off to people. That is her own wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>that she's getting from alleged guides or sources or things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and a lot of it seems very violent.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it was accusatory towards a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people like she was saying how Barbara Lamb is a

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<v Speaker 1>false light profit or some other weird shit like that,

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<v Speaker 1>And you kind of have to be careful of people

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<v Speaker 1>like that because there's a lot of them out there

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the woodworks now that claim to have

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<v Speaker 1>the only truth that there is, except that not just

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<v Speaker 1>people who have lived a very long time, but people

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<v Speaker 1>who are very wise eventually come to learn that multiple

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<v Speaker 1>perspectives equal the truth. What is the truth? Nobody knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's looking for it the same way. And until you

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<v Speaker 1>expand your awareness and understand that you're probably wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you know to be true at the time is

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<v Speaker 1>working for you, then that's the truth for now, if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. But anybody that is saying that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else is wrong and they're right, run run from that

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<v Speaker 1>person because that is not how you treat people, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is not how communities thrive. That is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of attitude that destroys communities, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's smacks of cultism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what can confronted her about what she did? She

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<v Speaker 1>basically threw a little shit fit and said that we

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<v Speaker 1>needed to part ways, and I let her know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's your choice. Everybody has a choice here on Boundless authenticity.

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<v Speaker 1>What you want to think, what you want to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>how you want to behave that is your choice. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not here to make anybody wrong for anything, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I do say some things that are harsh. Sometimes that's

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. It is not a fact, and so this

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<v Speaker 1>show is not about making you think that I have

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<v Speaker 1>all of the facts. Just do your own thinking. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say do your own research, do your

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<v Speaker 1>own thinking, because thinking seems to be dead on this

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<v Speaker 1>planet at the moment. And I don't know why. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's my aunt.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a good one, you know. I feel a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit double betrayed because I actually mentioned Nancy in

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<v Speaker 2>both of my books, Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors and

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<v Speaker 2>trans Dimensional Too, Meet the Gray's Picture Book, and because

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that she was a valuable resource. But then

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<v Speaker 2>something changed. I don't know what, but I had her

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<v Speaker 2>on my show I Think on Aliens and Angels and

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about an article that she wrote she claimed

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<v Speaker 2>she wrote, and then she didn't seem to remember any

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<v Speaker 2>of the details from the article, and I thought, that's

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<v Speaker 2>really strange. Being an author myself, I put a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work into my material. Of course, I know what

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<v Speaker 2>it says. I wrote it right, and I used AI

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<v Speaker 2>for some of the images, but I did not use

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<v Speaker 2>AI at all for any of the content. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was presented to me because I struggled

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<v Speaker 2>with the writing of my book, getting it, getting it

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<v Speaker 2>put into language that people would enjoy. So instead of

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<v Speaker 2>it just being boring at a bunch of facts, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring the reader with me into the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So I really worked hard on every paragraph, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it to be from my heart. And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that if I'm getting AI to do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere along the line, Nancy started getting AI to write

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<v Speaker 2>all her material. And the other thing is, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is another little bit of a warning about AI. AI

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<v Speaker 2>has given her false information about many of them of

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<v Speaker 2>our friends, about me, saying that we're part of the

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<v Speaker 2>false distortion matrix and all this other weird stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>AI's being a little bitch, pardon my language, causing contentions

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<v Speaker 2>between people. So yeah, I don't really believe in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't believe everything it says as being

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<v Speaker 2>a fact. That's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we're all just chilling. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>may highlight certain people on our show and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't represent who we are or what we believe necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Even some of the things that we post about that

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<v Speaker 1>we may appear to be sure about, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>for certain. I mean, we talk all this stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>spirituality and we have no clue what we're really talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just throwing shit at the wall to see if

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<v Speaker 1>it sticks, because we only have our individual experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else. You know, there's a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are so convinced that the Earth is going

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<v Speaker 1>to blow up, or that there's going to be this

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<v Speaker 1>massive event that's going to lead to a new Earth

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And people have been saying that for god

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<v Speaker 1>knows how long and it hasn't happened yet. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that hang their heads on ideas

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But that is not practical. When you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people and they are swearing that there's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>number of entities and they're all benevolent and they want

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<v Speaker 1>humanity to ascend don't hang your hat on that either, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>go with your own experience, because if you aren't connecting

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<v Speaker 1>with these sources yourself, the information coming from someone else

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<v Speaker 1>can't really do anything to help you fully understand. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to immerse yourself into the spiritual world and make

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<v Speaker 1>sense of who you are at the core, and stop

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<v Speaker 1>looking for other people to lead you and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's true for you. That's not gonna work. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy way to do it. And I suspect that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the problem is is that we are all

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<v Speaker 1>like children that have never left high school. And you

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<v Speaker 1>see these people who call themselves spiritual and they thrust

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in front of you and they're like, look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have all this information, but they really don't. They

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know jack shit. They wouldn't know a fart

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<v Speaker 1>from their own elbow making a weird syn They honestly wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the problem with the Internet, because the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>is a programming mechanism. It's a device for undercover cult

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<v Speaker 1>leaders and military experts and CIA and other three letter

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<v Speaker 1>agencies to completely control what you think. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that they themselves are doing it. They just have

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<v Speaker 1>to put the seeds of information out there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have idiots like the aforementioned who jump on board

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<v Speaker 1>have a sense of significance, and they're not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>with their heart. After some time, it reaches a point

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<v Speaker 1>where they're not doing it for any good reason other

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<v Speaker 1>than to get attention or to seem like an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>And anybody that's reached any level of wisdom knows that

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<v Speaker 1>community is about common unity. It's about the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we can agree on and the ways that we can

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<v Speaker 1>make our differences stronger for the group to bring us

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<v Speaker 1>together in a more whole and complete way. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>certain people don't know that, and that's really sad. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I see that in every area.

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<v Speaker 2>Is really sad. Yes, I agree. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say is I feel like people need to

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<v Speaker 2>be an example of what they believe in. And so,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, I believe that everybody has their own right

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<v Speaker 2>to their own perceptions and reality. I don't expect people

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<v Speaker 2>to think like me have my experiences, and I'm aware

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of this new stuff we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>even the content of my book, it's hard to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>because we're not given a conceptual frame work to hang

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<v Speaker 2>it on. We're not given the vocabulary or the words

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<v Speaker 2>to express our experiences, and so we're all running it

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<v Speaker 2>through our own perceptual arena. And I think, really, if

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<v Speaker 2>we took a room full of people and each one

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<v Speaker 2>had its had his or her own perception and expressed it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that only by taking the whole group into

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, we're grasping its straws. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's yeah, it's important. Least for me, it's important

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<v Speaker 2>not to set myself as any kind of a leader.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to get involved in cultism. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many cults out there, it's easy to fall into them,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not my purpose. My purpose is to give

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<v Speaker 2>people an alternative perception that they can then go, ah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in that, or maybe elements of it

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<v Speaker 2>ring true for people, But the whole thing is to

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<v Speaker 2>get people thinking and to have them expand their awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, which is what unbounded authenticity is all about,

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<v Speaker 2>is raising consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So with that, let's hear your experiences in your perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did the idea transdimensional come about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Trans dimensional? Actually I started, but it took me

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<v Speaker 2>about three and a half years to actually write my book.

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<v Speaker 2>So the event happened in twenty fourteen, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell people because I wasn't even one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent sure whether I was crazy or not, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, because I'd never heard about these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of experiences before. And twenty seventeen, my guides, which are

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<v Speaker 2>my invisible beings who inspire me and share in for

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<v Speaker 2>me like having an AI, but you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go to AI. This is a built in spiritual connection.

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<v Speaker 2>And in twenty seventeen I started getting pinged that I

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<v Speaker 2>me to go public, and so I started gathering my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty, I had an assisted remote viewing session,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a being who I call Bob the Gray.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not his real name, but he does not care

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<v Speaker 2>and I write about him in my book too, But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>of your presentation? I said, no problem, sent it to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He shared it with Dolly Saffron, who is fairly well

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<v Speaker 2>I said in my presentation. And Preston said, Karen, I

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<v Speaker 2>because people's knee jerk reaction, as was mine in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought the book would be helpful to help

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<v Speaker 2>and not just be reacting out of fear. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of how the books came about. And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>Asked me, and that was just it really, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, So I started writing a book and I

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<v Speaker 2>locked down, and that's when we had the online conference

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<v Speaker 2>that I with the Forbidden Knowledge Network. So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not have a title. I did not know what

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<v Speaker 2>would be funny but also disarming, was to include meet

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<v Speaker 2>the new neighbors, because this is a new concept of

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<v Speaker 2>being transdimensional. So anyway, this is how it all happens

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<v Speaker 2>for me is at night while I'm sleeping. All of

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<v Speaker 2>this happens for me at night while I'm sleeping. I

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<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning and I go, holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 2>what an adventure, and then I write down you know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. Anyway, I was given the word transdimensional. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know what it meant. So in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, wake up four o'clock in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>with this word transdimensional. It was clearly given to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what it meant, but I knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was important. So I'm going transdimensional, transdimensional, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I got to remember that, and in the morning, I

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<v Speaker 2>looked it up on my phone. I did a Google

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<v Speaker 2>search and found out what it meant. Yes, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening for me, and so I was given the

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<v Speaker 2>title transdimensional. And then I added meet the new Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be a little bit funny but also

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit just arming, so that people can realize

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<v Speaker 2>that there's probably many different races of ets, more than

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<v Speaker 2>I know about, but some of them are very friendly

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<v Speaker 2>or even somewhat annoying, kind of like a new neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, I mean, reasonably within an infinite universe, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>there be billions? The same way there's so many different

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<v Speaker 1>iterations of the human species. I mean, why wouldn't there

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<v Speaker 1>be all these different variations of it? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very simplistic question. I'm sure everybody's thought of this

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<v Speaker 1>or heard of it. Why would human beings be in isolation?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would there just be one planet that has life

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<v Speaker 1>on it and nowhere else, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>where people get lost the go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, the only reason I can think

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<v Speaker 2>of is some kind of social control by a small

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<v Speaker 2>number of people who have the perception of power, the

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<v Speaker 2>illusion of power, and they don't want to give that up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if we think that, you know, the only

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual leader is the Pope, and the only world leader

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<v Speaker 2>is I don't know, could be whatever country you're in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And that's the only reason I could think of.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, we know that isolation is a key step

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<v Speaker 1>in brainwashing, So there you go too. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just say to people, I don't know when this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. We call it disclosure, But the

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<v Speaker 1>word disclosure in a way kind of insists that this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is happening in real time at a particular speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be over soon. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a reasonable assumption to me. We're alive

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<v Speaker 1>right now in this time and we're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the real revealing of things, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, it's not going to be for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not on a life for it.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have to kind of or or we're already

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing it for ourselves, which is the best kind of disclosure, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, right It kind of takes human beings a long

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<v Speaker 1>time just to learn basic stuff. How long is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to take us to learn acceptance. We haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>doing so well at it so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we're not even accepting each other from

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<v Speaker 2>different countries or at different ethnicities, we're not even accepting.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we got a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of my book also delves into that, because

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is well what happened for me. I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>tell you quickly a little bit about it is. It

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<v Speaker 2>started in twenty fourteen, very abruptly. It was not expecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do anything to deserve it. I'm no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a special person, nothing like that. I went to bed

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<v Speaker 2>at night and I was aboard a huge what we

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<v Speaker 2>would consider a mothership, huge massive, and I was surprised

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<v Speaker 2>to find that all the beings I met on board

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<v Speaker 2>were highly evolved beings. There was nothing to be afraid of.

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<v Speaker 2>I was never afraid during any of it. Funny thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is there's a time dilation. So I would wake

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<v Speaker 2>up and it would be the next morning, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like when I was there, I wasn't here,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I was here, I wasn't there. So I'd

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<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning. But I had maybe two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks or three weeks worth of experiences, eating, sleeping, everything

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<v Speaker 2>aboard this big ship and wake up in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>and go wow. At first, I would wake up and

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<v Speaker 2>go wow. I was quite new experiences and dreaming what

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<v Speaker 2>the heck was that? And I'd think about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I remembered. I go to bed at night,

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<v Speaker 2>and boom, I pick up exactly where I left off.

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<v Speaker 2>So for Earth time, it happened every night, but from

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<v Speaker 2>the time I fell asleep till the time I awoke

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<v Speaker 2>for a three month period of time, but I had

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<v Speaker 2>experiences with the ets, more like three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>years worth of experiences, training, experiences, off world experiences with

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<v Speaker 2>different kinds of beings. Was incredible. Now this kept happening

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<v Speaker 2>night after night, and I'm going, wait a minute, this

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<v Speaker 2>can't be dreaming because it's too cohesive. When I dream,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make much sense. It's all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>I might not remember, it's just it doesn't follow a

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<v Speaker 2>distinct and definite storyline. But this was a definite remembering.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even like dream at all. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>very real. And so then my second thought was that

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<v Speaker 2>I must be crazy because I don't know anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>it's having these kind of experiences. Now, since then, I

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<v Speaker 2>have met other people who do have these experiences, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to add they're fairly common within the autistic community,

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<v Speaker 2>very common. And if any of you have watched the

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<v Speaker 2>pod or listened to the podcast called the Telepathy Tapes,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll understand this is now being widely known and accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if it's because I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>spectrum or what that allowed me to do to have

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<v Speaker 2>these adventures. The other thing I want to say is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wondered for a long time because there's

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<v Speaker 2>gaps in the information. I wondered for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, where is this big ship? Like is it

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<v Speaker 2>in our solar system? Is it in another galaxy? Well

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<v Speaker 2>star quadrant? Where is it? You know? And then I realized,

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<v Speaker 2>which is often how I get information, because I have

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<v Speaker 2>a telepathic link with the beings. Nobody speaks English trust

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<v Speaker 2>me on the big ship. And then I realized it's

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<v Speaker 2>in interdimensional space. So I just want to take a

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<v Speaker 2>second and then I'll stop and then let you ask

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<v Speaker 2>me questions because it's a lot a lot of information. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite quite the adventure. So if you imagine a

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<v Speaker 2>Venn diagram, a ven diagram is where you take a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of somewhat unrelated subjects or ways of being

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<v Speaker 2>or doing. There's always a little overlap where they all

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<v Speaker 2>overlap and share space. So if you can imagine a

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<v Speaker 2>ven diagram that looks very much like a daisy with

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<v Speaker 2>probably thousands of pedals, but in your imagination, just imagine

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<v Speaker 2>it with one hundred pedals and they all overlap at

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<v Speaker 2>the center. Well, those pedals represent transdimensional spaces, different realities,

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<v Speaker 2>different timesmelines, different positions within the multiverse, like all the

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<v Speaker 2>possibilities and more that we don't even know about. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ship sits in what I would call an

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<v Speaker 2>interdimensional envelope, and it sits there so that beings from many,

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<v Speaker 2>many different realities can come aboard, do training, learn things, leave.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a perfect vantage point. And it's so the

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<v Speaker 2>big Ship is actually nowhere and everywhere, and it's nearby

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<v Speaker 2>because it doesn't evolve time and space, which would also

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<v Speaker 2>explain the time dilation. So, yeah, I met many different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of beings. I've got an image here. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to have very long white hair, when this happens. So

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<v Speaker 2>these are AI generated They are not selfies. Just to

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<v Speaker 2>be upfront, but the woman in the center represents me,

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<v Speaker 2>but the women on either side are just different family

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<v Speaker 2>lines or races within this. We're all the same species,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're just different family lines. And so there's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of diversity in appearance and even within one

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<v Speaker 2>particular family line, like, for instance, me, I'm human. You

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at the humans on Earth, huge diversity

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<v Speaker 2>and skin tones and eye color, and even people within

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<v Speaker 2>the same family, one might have big ears, another one

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<v Speaker 2>might have a big nose. Like we're all different. Same

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<v Speaker 2>is true for extraterrestrials. There's a lot of diversity. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to get that out of the way

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<v Speaker 2>and just say that that's the basic information about the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ship. The Big Ship is also fully conscious. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually alive, as we would consider it. It's a conscious being.

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<v Speaker 2>And so everything on the Big Ship, all the parts

419
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<v Speaker 2>and components are all biological. And so there's no metal,

420
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>there's no wood, there's no seems. Everything's tribular or ovoid

421
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>in shape. And yeah, and there's a lot more, but

422
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll just sit it there and let you ask me questions.

423
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 2>So I'm answering what you would like to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would like for you to share with us

425
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>some more of your experiences, just to give us an

426
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<v Speaker 1>idea of what kinds of beings are trying to make

427
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>contact with you, what kind of information they're giving you,

428
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<v Speaker 1>What is the quality of the information. How you know

429
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>for yourself that what they're telling you is useful. I

430
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 1>can't use the word truthful. I would say useful things

431
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>like that, that's that's where the real meat is, and

432
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>that's the stuff that you kind of don't really hear

433
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>on an other podcast.

434
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I get into that a lot in my book, and

435
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>so and way more details. So basically what I want

436
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to say is from the moment I got there, I

437
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 2>never felt afraid. And it became very apparent right away

438
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 2>that these beings vibe on what I call the love harmonic.

439
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 2>We on earth don't even really know what love is.

440
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>We think it's some kind of a romantic fascination. But

441
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>love includes all kinds of things. So think of love

442
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>as a basket. And in that basket, you've got patience,

443
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>You've got mildness, you've got kindness, you've got self control,

444
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 2>you've got a whole bunch of virtues that go in

445
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>that basket, and when you're practicing all of them at once,

446
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 2>then you're actually exercising love. And love has to be

447
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>a practice towards self really before we can practice it

448
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 2>towards others. And so these beings were so peaceful and

449
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>so loving. They do not use voice communication. They are

450
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>capable of making sounds, but they basically completely rely on telepathy.

451
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>So one of the first things I had to do

452
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>was to learn how to communicate with telepathy. And telepathy

453
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>isn't just about broadcasting what you're thinking. Telepathy is also

454
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>about not broadcasting what you're thinking. So boundaries are really

455
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>important aboard the big ship. So these beings are what

456
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I would classify as at our next stage of development,

457
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>once we put away our worrying ways, once we learn

458
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to get along and what love is, and we learn

459
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to love ourselves. Now I'll give you another example. It's

460
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>a silly one, but it's true. You know, if we

461
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>have a child or a pet, we're not going to

462
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>let it eat all the junk food at once because

463
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>that's not its best interest. And so the same is

464
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 2>true for our selves. So if we have self control,

465
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>we're conscious or mindful about what we put in our body,

466
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>how much sunshine and fresh air, we get, how we

467
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>feel when we're around certain people and different around others.

468
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 2>It involves a whole bunch of things that are really

469
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>important and they require mastery, and it takes time to

470
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>master these skills. They're absolutely skills. And I'll give you

471
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 2>an example. I work on patients every single dayay, and

472
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 2>especially with myself, and it's not easy. It's not easy

473
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to be patient with other people on social media or

474
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that I might run into or in traffic. Even it

475
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>takes from we all practice, we will get good at it.

476
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just like any other skill. If you're learning to

477
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>play the piano, you start one key at a time

478
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and it sounds terrible, but guess what. Years later, you're

479
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a concert pianist and you produce the most beautiful frequencies.

480
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Same things and learning to vibe in the love harmonic.

481
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>So these beings vibe in the love harmonic, but they're

482
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 2>born into that as a culture, and they've had probably

483
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years to evolve into it. They used to

484
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 2>be like us, but they're not anymore. And so that's

485
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 2>another thing people always ask me what does ET think

486
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of us? And I say they don't, And they'll tell

487
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you why they don't, just because they're busy doing what

488
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>ET does. They got lives, and they got careers, and

489
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>they got things they're doing and projects they're involved in.

490
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And quite frankly, if they were exposed to our present

491
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>state of consciousness here on Earth, well there's a few exceptions,

492
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>but the majority of people, they would be really upset.

493
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 2>They would be traumatized because they don't do that in

494
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>their world or the world worlds they come from. Many

495
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>of them were born aboard the Big Ship. They choose

496
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 2>to live on these big mother what we would call

497
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>mother ships. I call it the Big Ship. Not everybody

498
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>lives on planets. People live in all kinds of different environments,

499
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 2>and so the Big Ship is what you would call

500
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 2>very very multicultural, and cross inter racial relationships are very common,

501
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and so the children they might have a mother from

502
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>one place and a father from another. There's just a

503
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of diversity. And they don't have constructs the way

504
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>we do. They don't have concepts of conscious sorry, they

505
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have concepts of gender, they don't have concept septs

506
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>of race, they don't have concepts of political affiliated don't

507
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>have any of that messing up their field. They just

508
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 2>are extremely loving, patient, kind beings. And within that culture,

509
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't need a lot of rule, So you don't

510
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>have to tell people not to steal, because as they

511
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 2>would steal, they would treat other beings very pure and

512
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 2>very highly evolved and very beautiful. And we're stepping into that.

513
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 2>We're just going through a lot of bumps right now.

514
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's another thing people will get from reading my book.

515
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 2>They'll not only be right with me in the adventure,

516
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>but they will soon see that there's a way that

517
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 2>we could live here on Earth that would make things

518
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>more peaceful, more loving, more positive. There's a way that

519
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>we can do this, and it's not actually even that hard,

520
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 2>but it takes practice, and it's like a daily well,

521
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>a daily practice. It's just like meditation is a practice,

522
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, all kinds of things. It just takes work.

523
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Are we willing to do the work. And so the

524
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>other thing I want to add is there is an

525
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional and intergalactic resettlement program, but they're not going to

526
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>just come in here and evacuate everybody onto another world.

527
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.559
<v Speaker 2>That wouldn't make sense because until we're evolved to the

528
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>point where we can be peaceful and loving. There's no

529
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>point in importing the what I call the infection or

530
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>the infection of the erroneous way of thinking and being

531
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>that many Earth people are stuck in. They would not

532
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>move that onto the big ship, or onto other ships,

533
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or move that onto other worlds. No way. They're going

534
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 2>to wait till we all of ourselves to a certain

535
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>point that we would have value to intergalactic resettlement. So

536
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>that means that those of us, and I'm not even

537
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>saying for sure I would be chosen. To be honest,

538
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a human being, just like everybody else. I'm not.

539
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Just because I've been given the privilege of this experience

540
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and the privilege of being able to write about it

541
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean for sure that I'm some kind of highly

542
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>evolved human. You know, I take two steps forward one

543
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>back all the time. But until we do that, we're

544
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>not going to get a lot of the positive contact

545
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that's possible. We're going to get some mimicry and some tricksters.

546
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>And you know, because unfortunately, I guess on some frequency levels,

547
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>there are beings that don't have our best interest at heart,

548
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 2>which includes humans. And that's the other thing. For those

549
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>that are afraid of ET, I've never heard.

550
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Of.

551
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 2>ET is doing the kind of things that humans do

552
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to each other, war after war, inquisitions, hierarchies and monarchies.

553
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, colonialism. This is a scary This is

554
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the scary place to be. Oh, I love your chicken.

555
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's a really weird place to be. This

556
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 1>chicken is obsessed with me. This is patty.

557
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah aw, it's a special relationship. Yeah.

558
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 1>The thing that I wanted to ask you, that I

559
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 1>feel is most important for today is what are the

560
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 1>most important things that you have learned from your experiences

561
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.519
<v Speaker 1>that have changed you dramatically.

562
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, even though that experience aboard the Big Ship lasted

563
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>only for about three months of Earth time, even though

564
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.800
<v Speaker 2>it only happened at night, even though it happened while

565
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I was asleep, I was so deeply touched by the

566
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>way these beings are, what they have done with community,

567
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>what they have done with themselves. There's no religion either.

568
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>They are just recognize universal consciousness and they just have

569
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 2>developed themselves to being the best beings they can be.

570
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I came away from that well not to mention the

571
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 2>fact that they're extremely healthy and they live for a

572
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>very long time. So I came away from that. Then

573
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd go do my grocery shopping and I'd see how

574
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 2>we are here on earth, our health, what we eat,

575
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 2>how we treat each other. And it was a bit shocking.

576
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 2>In fact. What a lot of people who have ET

577
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>contact don't seem to talk much about. Is am I

578
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>allowed to swear on your show? Or you want me

579
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 2>not to swear? Okay, So it leads you really fucked up? Okay,

580
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 2>it leads you completely fucked up. You don't know what's

581
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>real what's not. You need a lot of private space

582
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to sort yourself out. This is not like people.

583
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Talk about, Oh yeah, I got picked up in the

584
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 4>spaceship and we did this and that and I went

585
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 4>to work the next day. I could not function for

586
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 4>like two years after this happened, even though it was

587
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 4>a very positive, positive experience, because the contrast was so

588
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 4>huge between what I experienced there and what I experience here.

589
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So what it was like being aboard the big ship,

590
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it was like going home after being away for a

591
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>very long time. It resonated so strongly with me that

592
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>when I came back, I said, no, I'm going to

593
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 2>do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to

594
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>keep working on patients. I'm going to keep working on kindness.

595
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to keep you know, make myself a better person,

596
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 2>proof that some of us are able to do this,

597
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 2>that some of us are are ready for this kind

598
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of contact. But the other thing is it's because it's

599
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the only system that works. So what happens is when

600
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you truly love and learn what love is, and you

601
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>love each other, you know, murder people. You don't hurt people,

602
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't lie to them, you don't steal their stuff,

603
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like all the shenanigans going on here on Earth never

604
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. Aboard the Big Ship. It was really

605
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to leave. But at the same time, I know

606
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>why I had to leave. It was because I had

607
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 2>to process what I had been through so I could

608
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>tell other humans about it. So, even though I'm not

609
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 2>saying all ets are benevolent and wonderful, the ets and

610
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 2>my experience definitely were made me want to be a

611
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>better person. So I started working. Well, I already was

612
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>working on a lot of these things, but it was

613
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>really important for me to, like, for instance, respect the

614
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>choices and decisions and thoughts of my grown children, and

615
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.280
<v Speaker 2>not be trying to tell them how they should be

616
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 2>doing things, or how they should be cooking a meal,

617
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>or how they should be raising their children, letting them

618
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 2>make their own decisions, knowing that they would fail sometimes,

619
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and then I would be there as a kinsind hand

620
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 2>to offer the support that they choose to help them

621
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:45.840
<v Speaker 2>move gove on, you know what I mean. And that's

622
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>a trend. They just want to be all in there

623
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 2>controlling their life. No, that doesn't work, you know what

624
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean. So you know, there's many examples being a

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<v Speaker 2>good friend being even a lot of my podcast guests

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<v Speaker 2>I become friends with, and being kind to them and

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<v Speaker 2>being good to them and being patient with them. So

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<v Speaker 2>all of that requires fair amount of work, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy to say I'm getting pretty good at him. Not perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what this also does is it removes my

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<v Speaker 2>fear of death because when it's my turn to pass

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<v Speaker 2>on to the next realm, I don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>afraid because I know I've done the work, I've done

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<v Speaker 2>the shadow work. I continually do the kind of work

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do to be more like these beings.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to emulate them. And the book is

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<v Speaker 2>not just oh, look at me, I had this experience.

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<v Speaker 2>The book is to show everyone the wisdom of becoming

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<v Speaker 2>refined human beings, becoming good at our craft, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is being human and seeing the beautiful results that we

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<v Speaker 2>could be seeing right here. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>throw one sort of political statement out there. The powers

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<v Speaker 2>that be here on earth can only exist when we

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<v Speaker 2>give them that power. As soon as we recognize our

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<v Speaker 2>own sovereignty and our own power and take it back,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't feed off that anymore, and our world will

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<v Speaker 2>change as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and I've kind of asked myself

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<v Speaker 1>this question my entire life, and it is this, why

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<v Speaker 1>are we constantly at the whim of a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people who are very rich, who is hide in the

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<v Speaker 1>shadows and they love provoking reactions from us by starting

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<v Speaker 1>another war. I mean, it's the same people funding both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing it for sport.

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<v Speaker 5>It's always been that way, so you know, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>all related and inbread. Just to add that, and so

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<v Speaker 5>even back in the seventeenth, eighteenth century, fifteenth century, one

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<v Speaker 5>thousand century, one family member from what because the countries

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<v Speaker 5>they just program that into the system. But really they

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<v Speaker 5>all kind of own everything, and so one of them

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<v Speaker 5>will have a fight. Maybe one of them is decided

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<v Speaker 5>she wants to be Catholic, and she's in Scotland, but

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<v Speaker 5>in England they want to be Protestant, and there's a

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<v Speaker 5>king there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just I'm not good at history.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing that out there, right, And so they

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<v Speaker 2>go that I'm mad at you. Well, that's it. We're

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<v Speaker 2>having a war. So you go and pick the poor

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<v Speaker 2>farmers out of the field that got wives and children

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else, and you put them in your forces

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<v Speaker 2>and you march them out to kill each other. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>the king and the queen they're never even put at risk.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just using human beings basically as slave labor to

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever they want amuse them through their war processes,

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<v Speaker 2>harvest all their food, you know, and then all their food.

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<v Speaker 2>A certain amount of that is you have to turn

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<v Speaker 2>the best of it, everything over to the king and

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<v Speaker 2>the queen, and then you eat the crap that's left over.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just it's always been this way. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't know what to say about in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but in some ways. We have more power now and

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<v Speaker 2>more education and more opportunities to form community. And again

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<v Speaker 2>it's about I think, starting within to be sovereign and

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<v Speaker 2>to take our power back. And then we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to We're grounded. We got critical thinking skills. When they

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<v Speaker 2>start to serve us the BS with certain health scares

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<v Speaker 2>and wars and stuff, we can just laugh at it,

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<v Speaker 2>because laughing at it probably is the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>take the power out of it. We're going no, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's still a lot of people really caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in it, and they'll just use one trick after another.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not falling for it anymore. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a mouthy old lady till the day I die.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good way to put in. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to any other insights that you want to share.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh again, I want to reiterate that there are some

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<v Speaker 2>images in my book and they are just meant to

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<v Speaker 2>stimulate the reader's imaginations so that they can sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit relate to my experiences. These are not

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<v Speaker 2>selfies though, these are AI generated images. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be really honest about that. But all the content of

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<v Speaker 2>my book is my real life experiences. I talk about

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<v Speaker 2>my paranormal experiences as a child. And as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>I was taught one of two things. If I went

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<v Speaker 2>to family, I was told, don't talk about that. People

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<v Speaker 2>are going to think you're crazy. I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 2>even cover that in the book, about how they use

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<v Speaker 2>mental health as an excuse some times to discredit us

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<v Speaker 2>and our actual experiences. And then when I went to

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<v Speaker 2>churches to try to find out why I was having

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<v Speaker 2>these experiences, and then I was told I was dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the devil and that this was evil and I

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<v Speaker 2>should just drop it and read my Bible. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had my choice between being crazy or being evil.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like either one. But I'm glad I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>way I am. I'm very grateful for the experiences I had.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people will love my book. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>hard read. It's full of excitement and adventure and new

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<v Speaker 2>ways of looking at reality, and I think people would

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<v Speaker 2>really really enjoy it. And I really appreciate you having

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<v Speaker 2>me on your show to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no problem. You're an easy person to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>and a real gentle soul. I picked up on that

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, so I'm happy to know you

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<v Speaker 1>and have you on the show. If you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>everybody where they can find you, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, sorry, I get it, she knows. I have two

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts a week. On Wednesday afternoon at one pm Mountain time,

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<v Speaker 2>I have the Quantum Guide show, and I interview people

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<v Speaker 2>who are offering something positive. And there are people from

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world, all different socioeconomic backgrounds and ways

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking and philosophies. I think it's all beautiful. Like

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<v Speaker 2>all the different gemstones, they're all beautiful, they're just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different. I do once a month, the last

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday of the month, I actually do a conspiracy panel

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<v Speaker 2>where we get into breakdown some of the conspiracies. My

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<v Speaker 2>other show is the Aliens and Angels podcast. It's every

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday at noon mountain time, and this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>either talk about my own experiences or invite other people

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<v Speaker 2>who have had ET contact or in jee contact or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, and we just talk about our experiences

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<v Speaker 2>and I do a live chat for both of those

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<v Speaker 2>so that we're building community. I have a website that's

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<v Speaker 2>www dot Karenholton Healthcoach dot com and that's k A

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<v Speaker 2>R E N H O L T O N health

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<v Speaker 2>coach dot com. I'm a different kind of health coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually a social worker by training, and I assist

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<v Speaker 2>people with their journeys and so I offer services. I

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<v Speaker 2>also sell a few items like orgone generators and crystals

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<v Speaker 2>to help me cover my expenses because I am not

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<v Speaker 2>yet making any money doing this. But I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for the money or the likes or the subs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it because I'm compelled to. And I'm part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Forbidden Knowledge Network and you can find my

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<v Speaker 2>audio podcasts on all audio platforms and it's all under

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<v Speaker 2>the Quantum Guide Show with Karen Holton. And yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well find me anywhere. Just put into a Google

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<v Speaker 2>search at Karen Holton TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Ope, sorry it was muted there.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Karen, thanks for being on the Bondless Authenticity Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my pleasure anytime. And maybe you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>come on the Quantum Guide Show when I do my

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<v Speaker 2>scheduling for September, and maybe you'd like to come on

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about what you're doing, the work you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>your wonderful podcast, your Facebook group and I hope everybody

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<v Speaker 2>likes and subscribes to you. Thank you so much again.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure thing, thank you. You're listening to the Boundless Authenticity

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<v Speaker 1>podcast where we discuss everything related to the evolution of

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<v Speaker 1>human consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very least you need.

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<v Speaker 3>To understand that the United States builds bokers, which are

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<v Speaker 3>basically cities of your ground every three months.

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<v Speaker 5>Basically in your dream you tuck into your self conscious it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is your love and your insolution, your creativity.

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<v Speaker 3>And imagination unchanged for conscious reason and locating all.

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<v Speaker 2>Your larr soul by hard are consciousness ecology cultures of

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<v Speaker 2>varium for your hurguy.

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<v Speaker 3>We live in a multi dimensional reality, whether it comes

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<v Speaker 3>through esitary information in the spiritual realms, or the UFO

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<v Speaker 3>people experiences, or mainstream on the physics and through natrem science.

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<v Speaker 3>Now realizing that parallel dimensions probably exist, we're all spiritual means.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all having these human experiences. We've heard that phrase

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>But what does that really need In all of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions of why we have these answers inside of our soul.

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<v Speaker 3>We're ultimately studying the nature of what it is to

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<v Speaker 3>be human, good and evil, our psychology, how we fitting,

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<v Speaker 3>and our health. That's why I love Bruce Lee's great

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<v Speaker 3>quote all knowledge is ultimately self knowledge.
