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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, DJ Leaves. Well,

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we do get ready for a very intriguing heavyweight showdown

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at this for the IBF version of the heavyweight titleist.

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Daniel Dubois is the IBF champ. We gotta keep reminding

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ourselves of that. Anthony Joshua, the former two time unified champ,

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battles him in an English main event. We're ready to

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preview that. That entire card. Plus we got Friday Night

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action involving contender himI Mongia in a super middleweight showdown

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in Glendale, Arizona, the top rank ESPN card. We're ready

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to talk about all of that in the preview mode.

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I am the somewhat competent host TJ Reeves. Hello to

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our insider fight Freakshew Night is his substack and newsletter,

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a Big Fight Weekend insider as well. Hello Dan Raphael.

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Good to be back with you off the Canello Weekend.

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Speaker 2: You got back.

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Speaker 1: We had you on the recap podcast. You got back safely.

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You're getting ready to go again and we're right back

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at it with a heavyweight showdown that Rich did in previewing.

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We got some news, we got some nostalgia. We got

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a bunch here. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. We got a good weekend. We got a

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nice card on Friday night with the top rank Mongee card.

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We'll discuss. We got a very good card with the Brits,

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the red card at Wembley. They getting weight fights, So

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what's there not to love?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot to cover here on the

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program news including wait a minute, the Giron and his

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It may actually be in the United States. Stay tuned

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don't have to wait long as we released this Thursday

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night into Friday. The ESPN Top Rank Show is actually

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on Friday night in Glendale, Arizona. Haimi Mungia off the

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loss to Canelo Alvarez, is back. I have to confess again,

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I always do this. I rely on you. Eric Bazigian

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is the opponent. I don't know a lot about him,

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but clue me. Is he a big threat or not

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to Mungia. We're about to find out here from Dan,

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all right, what are your thoughts as he headlines this card, Mongia.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a pretty reasonable fight. This is

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a pretty solid fight when you think about the fact

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that Monkey is coming off the loss to Canelo Alvarez,

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or even though he lost a decision and he got

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knocked down in the fourth round. He acquitted himself pretty well.

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I don't think you can talk too negatively about what

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Mungia did against Canelo. It was an entertaining fight, and

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you know, he, I'm sure learned a lot in that experience.

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he's become bigger because that pay per view was successful

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and it was a good fight. And again, even though

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someone's gonna win, someone's gonna lose. But he certainly didn't

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disgrace himself. He put up a heck of a fight,

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and I think he's gonna get better. He's only twenty

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seven years old, even though he's got a lot of

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fights under his belt, but they're mostly and Hayes had

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some very hard fights, but not too many, is the

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way I look at it. So he's got a lot

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of good years up that I think. And in terms

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of Bainian, here's a fighter that's taking a step up

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in competition. He's been a professional for this is his

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eleventh year as a pro. He's thirty two to oh

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to one, and he's faced them. Okay, guys, it's not

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like he's never faced like you know, He's faced thirty

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three stifts or anything like that. He has faced some

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decent guys. We've you've heard me mentioned in Marcelo Cosarras,

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who gave Billy Joe Sunners a very solid fight in

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a close loss before he was stopped in that world

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title fight. He also was the one that scored the

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first ever knockdown against Edgar Berlanga. Anyway, he won a

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ten round decision against him in twenty twenty two. He's

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fought the slick Alantes Fox. He wanted a close decision

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against him. That was another solid win. Ronald Ellis is

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a good call, you know, I would say like between

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contender and journeyman type of opponent. He has a win

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over him, so it's not like he's never faced anybody.

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which is just a couple of days prior to win

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a Mongea Fockingo, so they're on essentially the same schedule,

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he scored a split draw against a fighter named Shaquille

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Finn in Montreal, so you know, you gotta kind of

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be concerned about that a little bit. But he's undefeated.

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in the United States before. This will be his third

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time fighting in the US, so that's not a huge,

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you know, adjustment, let's say, even though most of his

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fights have taken place in Canada. So I think this

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is like a pretty reasonable fight. It's gonna be Mongy's

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first fight with top rank. I think they have looking

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in the future. If he wins, It's not like a guarantee,

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but they have designs and maybe a mobility fight, which

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Speaker 1: Sign me up absolutely if that's in the offing, and

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Mangia wins here signed me up for that. One.

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Speaker 2: Another thing is it relates to monkey is he's back

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now after two fights with Freddie Roach as his trainer.

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looked good in scored a knockout in that. He did

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the Canelo Alvarez fight in with Freddie, which again even

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though he lost. I didn't think he per formed badly

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in that fight whatsoever. But for his own reasons that

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are not quite clear to me, to be honest, he

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has returned to Eric Morales as his trainer, who had

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that short stint with Freddie Roach. Eric has not yet

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distinguished himself as a trainer, but we all know he

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was an all time great fighter. They obviously get along

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well with each other for them to get back together.

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was running for a public office in Mexico and was

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tied up for a while dealing with all that. But

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they're back together, and you know, you got to be

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if you're you know, if you're the if you're the fighter,

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you got to be comfortable with the trainer. I don't

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think it was anything against Freddy. I think you just

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liked Eric's the work situation better. They trained in Big Bear,

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they didn't train in Mexico for this fight. I expect

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an explosive performance from Mongia. I think that I think

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he's going to be better off that Canelo fight. I

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think that Bazinian's got to be highly motivated. He knows

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that he's going in the ring with a tough, good

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quality guy, a former champ in the lower way class,

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and it's his chance to shine now. If you pay

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attention TJ to the various events that are on ESPN Plus.

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Bizinian has been featured on a lot of those cards

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that that top rank picks up from UH from Canada,

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so he shouldn't be unfamiliar if you're a junkie and

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you even watching those shows.

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Speaker 1: So I rely on you, That's what I said. I

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don't know a lot about him, but I know you would.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what he brings to the table. But he

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you know, he's uh, he's got pretty good he's got

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pretty good size. He's six foot one, so he's gonna

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be just a little bit taller than Mongia and Uh,

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like I said, I expect a good fight now. Monkey

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is gonna be the huge crowd, crowd favorite. They're fighting

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in Glen Dellarzona's gonna be a big Mexican crowd obviously,

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and there's a lot online for both these guys because

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it's hard to get title fights now at the super

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middleweight division because Canelo has got three belts and the

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fourth belt is gonna be fought for the vacant title

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coming up next month with Dan your boy William Skull

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uh you know over there in Germany, and so uh,

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the winner, though, you're gonna move into a good position,

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whether it's gonna be a rematch with Canel, which seems

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toult about. At some point those belts will become available,

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and you want to make sure you're standing there in

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Speaker 1: And as I've often said to you, kind of half

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jokingly but half the truth, Mongee always makes great fights

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because he gets people and he's easy to hit. So

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so let's see if that changes or if that's not

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the case. Uh here in this top rank main event

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and when need to stress again that is a Friday night,

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Friday night, as we release the podcast main event, Richard Torres,

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the heavyweight, the up and coming former silver medalist from

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the United States on the undercard, and one of the

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Fernando Vargas sons, Emiliano Vargas, also on this under card.

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Speaker 2: Well, Richard Torres is the co feature, but that's because

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the original co feature was supposed to have the one

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hundred and thirty pound up and comer Andre Andres Quortees,

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but he suffered an injury, so the Torres fight got

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elevated from the opening fight on the car to the

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co feature on the car. But even still, look, Richard

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Torres has been a fun fighter to watch his development.

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He's ten and oho ten knockouts. We all know he

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was the silver medal winner for the United States in

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the twenty twenty delayed Tokyo Olympics that actually took place

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in twenty twenty one. He's been knocking everybody out, that's

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the bottom line. He hasn't really been pushed too far.

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He went five rounds in his last fight in is

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of a step up against the undefeated Brandon Moriy look

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good in that fight. Now he's taking even a bigger

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step and a bigger step up. He's fighting Joey Duaco.

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No one's going to confuse Joey Deweco with world champion.

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He's got eleven losses, four draws, twenty eight wins. But

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one thing about Joey Dewek wh I have seen fight

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countless times on TV and in person. He's a rough,

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tough dude. He takes a pretty good punch, and you

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know he if you're not ready for Joey Duwaco, he'll

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eat you alive, so to speak. You know, I always

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felt like Joey Diweco could have been a serious challenger

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for a title or win a world title if he

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fought at cruiserweight. He elected to continue to fight at heavyweight.

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That's his call. In THEOS eleven loss, He's only been

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stopped three times. He has won seven out of his

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last eight fights. He hasn't been stopped since Stephen Shaw,

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who was undefeated heavyweight on the on the Rise, stopped

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him in the eighth and final round back in twenty

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twenty two. But generally speaking, he's showing a very very

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good shin and listen, when you'll take a look at

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the opposition that Richard Torres has faced so far as

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a professional, there is zero question in my mind that is,

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at least on paper anyway, one hundred percent of his

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toughest fight. And as a matter of fact, the people

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at top rank who make the matches, they want to

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press him. They want they don't want to get a beat, obviously,

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but they want to give him a rugged veteran who

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can handle himself, who knows, uh, you know how to fight,

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and Joey Doweco knows how to fight. And as a

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matter of fact, and Joey Deweco's pre fight comments, his

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his his uh attitude was look I know I'm here

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to try to test this guy. He these fighters are

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not stupid, they're aware why they're there. That doesn't mean

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you're not going to try to win. You know, they're

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going to try to go after it. I mean Richard Torres,

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like I said, he's only been past three rounds two times.

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Joey Deweco has gone deep into fights numerous times, so

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he knows his job is to try to test the

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young man and uh, and obviously to try to get

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a victory in the process. But uh, this is a

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very solid step up for where Richard Torres has been

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so far, and now he's you know, taking a little

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bit of a step up. In terms of Emiliano Vargas,

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the undefeated fighter eleven and zero nine knockouts, just twenty

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years old. DJ he remember and remember that every time

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he watch his young kid fight. He of course is

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one of the three fighting sons of the former two

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times Drew or Middaway tight older Fernando Vargas, who makes

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me feel old because I covered Fernando when he was

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in his crime and his best, and I covered the

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Trinidad fighter, and I covered the Oscar fight on other

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fights as well. But This is a young guy in

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Emiliano who looks the part. He's got the Hollywood movie

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star looks, good looking kid, exciting fighting style, and again

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little bit of a step up. They're matching him up

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with a fighter named Larry Friars, and you're not going

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to know him. He's a journeymanish kind of guy. He's

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got a bunch of loss about relative to the opposition

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that Emiliano has faced so far in his early days

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of his career. This is definitely a step up, and

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that's really at that stage when you're a prospect, as

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long as you're moving along, No one's expecting a twenty

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year old fighter with that limited experience to be fighting

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in a World championship fighter, fighting in an elimination fighter,

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a top ten contender. You want to have increments of

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fighting better opposition. Top rank is the best in the

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business in my opinion, when it comes to having a

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prospect and knowing how to move them, how to match them,

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doing it at the right speed, not doing it too fast.

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they've got a lot of money into them. Vargas is

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a fighter that needs to be babied for a little while,

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but at some point they're going to realize that they

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can move them quicker. And they've taken the step to

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match Moobi Larry Friars, which is a reasonable opponent for

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the stage of his career. So that's the opening fight

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on the main broadcast, a eight rounder, the Richer Tourist

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fight also as an eight rounder, and then the main

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on pay per view or anything like that, but there's

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a reason for all these fights to be happening, and

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that's a Friday Night fight card, and now chronologically we

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get into Saturday and the intrigue that is going to

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be around Daniel Dubois and Anthony Joshua. This will come

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from Wimbley Stadium in excess of ninety thousand, probably in

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excess of ninety five thousand expectations.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be scaled for ninety six thousand.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: They they yes, and it'll be sold out.

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Speaker 1: And so they're they're gonna hold this thing and again

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for Joshua a chance to reclaim a portion of the title.

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Just go through this again because Dubois has gotten a

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portion of the heavyweight title. Explained to them, how and

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now that you have this matchup, that sets somebody up

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in twenty twenty five for obviously bigger, bigger situations.

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Speaker 2: So back in June, you know, Philip Herkovic had been

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the mandatory for Alexander Usik's title and they had to

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make a deal to to you know, before Tyson Fury. Well,

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they stepped aside to allow Tyson Fury and Usk to

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fight each other for undisputed. That took place in May,

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and then come June, Usik was supposed to have vacated.

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Fury deal. It didn't happen at that moment. They worked

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out a little bit to extend the time period where

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Usik could help could hold on to the IBF belt.

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For whatever reason, the IBF then broke their rules as

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we've discussed in the past, and they sanctioned the Hergovic

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fight against Duwa, which was supposed to be for the

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vacant title at that point, but they let it be

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for the interim title and Philip Hergovich uh and and

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uh Dubi had their fight. It was a good fight

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and Duba was the winner by an eighth round knockout.

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He was the underdog. Duba was the undefeated favorite in

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that fight. Uh And then soon after that fight, finally

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Usik did what he was supposed to have done earlier

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and he vacated the title uh and And at that point,

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Dubai was elevated. So he's got you know, in the

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vernacular of the sport, we call it the he's got

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a paper title whatever. He's the IBF champion, but we

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all know that the real heavyweight champion of the world

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is Alexander Usik. Based on that victory against Tyson Fury

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and by the way, it is not in any way

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TJ a knock on the matchup between Joshua du Wah

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because title or no title, it's a tremendous matchup. However,

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the fight is happening largely because of the belt there,

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so if that is the impetus to make the match,

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I'm I'm okay with it, even though I don't like

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to see a guy like Usik, who's the best heavyweight

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in the world right now, get stripped of a title.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we already saw Dubois fight Usick

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and Usik knock him out and beat him. Whatever you

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think of what this is or isn't, and by the way,

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do it easily yes? And so now Dubois has since

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won a fight where Herkovic had a bad cut, he

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did knock him down, he did beat him, So he's

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earned to whatever extent this opportunity with Joshua. Let me

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couch it like this. I have. I talked about this

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with David Pain. I've had this feeling for a couple

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of weeks. I think this is fairly easy work for

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Anthony Joshua on Saturday night in Wimbley. You want to

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talk me out of that and think that Dubois may

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really test him or have a chance to beat him,

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or what is your thought? I know we have a

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bet US boxing show looming where we're gonna make actual predictions.

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But am I wrong to think that Joshua is the

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much more skilled, much more tested fighter and should not

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have a lot of difficulty here? Am I wrong to

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think that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't disagree with that necessarily, I'm hesitant

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to say it's easy work because Danga Duba. One thing

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about him is he can punch, and in his recent

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fights he has shown some resilience, which was a question

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mark against him. You know, he showed a lot of

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resilience in the fight against Herkovich, no question about that.

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He showed a lot of resilience in the fight against

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Jerald Miller, which was a good victory for him. That

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was the previous fight that took place in December on

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our favorite card, the Day of Reckoning. He did not

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show resilience or balls or heart in the Usik fight.

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So to me, it's about which Danga Dubois shows up.

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I tend to think it's the latter, because I believe

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that the victory over Hurgovic and the way he went

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about it, coming after the way he went about to

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fight against Cheryl Miller, has given this guy some confidence

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that he may not have had before. So while I

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definitely agree with you about Joshua being the better fighter,

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I'm not necessarily willing to use the word easy in

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my description of the fight. But that said, that said,

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this is a good matchup. First of all, let's just

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discuss this for a quick second. Now, we're going to

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get to a little bit about this more and later

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on in the show. It's twenty bucks on pay per view?

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How do you beat that as a pay per view?

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Because it's a deep card. We're gonna get into some

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of the under cards, and we've just seen a lot

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of high prices for some pay per view events. To

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Canelo Alvarez fight last week, for example, if you bought that,

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that was eighty nine to ninety nine, and most of

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the pay per views that we see the PBC cards

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are generally seventy five to eighty bucks. You know, when

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Top Rank did one of their like say Heini Wilmachenko,

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was like sixty five dollars. A lot of these cards

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are higher priced. Turkey al Chic from Saudi Arabia, who

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dictates these things, I guess, you know, found a moment

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in his mind of clarity or something to that degree

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and realize that, you know, we don't have to if

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we want to get our tension on our events. You know,

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even though we still need to make some revenue back,

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we can be a little easier on the pocketbook of

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the fan at large. And I think that most fans,

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if you tell them it's eighty or ninety dollars, they're

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much more willing to seek out ability to steal it.

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At twenty dollars, most people are like, yeah, it's only

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twenty bucks, that's really not that big of a deal.

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So I do think the price impacts people's level of

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sure desire to that that's the event.

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Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, our sponsor PPV dot com

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here you can purchase it through them. We encourage you

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to do so. And we're gonna talk more with Mark

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Bocardi at PPV dot com in a little while about

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that very same point. You and Iron agreement. Mark is

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in agreement that on some of these you set up

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the bigger pay per view offering by exposing it to

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more people here for the lesser price on this so

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I kind of agree here, Let's get back to the

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fans some because whether it's been the fury Usak pay

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per view, the Saudi pay per views earlier in the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Soaking the fans seventy eighty ninety dollars at a time, Dan, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm gonna be interested to see how they price

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the Usk and Fury rematch. Now, I don't know, are

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they going to go back to that eighty dollars. Well,

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I mean we'll see. But I mean, look, they did

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a less her price when he did that Day of

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Reckoning card. That was an excellent show. This is a

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good show also at only twenty bucks, so I can't

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complain about that. But in terms of the fight itself, look,

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Joshua has found himself in a little bit of a renaissance,

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if you know what I mean. So he had the

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two very tough losses to Usik in twenty twenty one

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in twenty twenty two, although, as I have said numerous times, CG.

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I thought he fought way better in the rematch against Usik.

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It just that he was in with a guy that

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was just, you know, that much more skilled and just

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had a better game plan, however you want to describe it.

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You know, he looked okay when he came back against

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Jermaine Franklin. He still got the clear victory, you know,

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by a wide scorecard. He looked good and stopped Hellenius.

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He totally took a part in dominated and knocked out

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Auto Well and made him, you know, the corner call

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to fight and then you know, I'm not sure how

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much we can take away from it, but he absolutely

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fucking destroyed Francis and guy devastating knockout. So he's got

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the four wins in a row. And as you like

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to talk about often activity, baby, this is a guy

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who has now fought what four times since August of

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twenty twenty two. That's very, very busy by heavy star standards.

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And he's got another fight coming up. I mean it'll

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be it'll be his fourth fight in literally eleven months,

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because he fought Helenius in August of last year, Otto

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and December, Naganu in March, and now in September he's

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gonna fight Danga Duas. So eleven months and four fights.

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You know, there's something to be said for that. You

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stay sharp, you stay in shape, you're mentally there. You know,

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you're in the public spotlight, you're selling tickets, you're selling

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paper to you're making money, you're doing all the things

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you know at a time when you know it's a

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short career, you're you're making basically what I look at

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Anthony Joshua right now at age thirty four, he's making

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the most of it, and he knows damn well that

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whatever happens if he wins the fight on Saturday against Agua,

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he's gonna sit back and he's gonna see what occurs

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on December twenty first, because either he's gonna either Fury's

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going to regain the title, and then you can take

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this to the bank. They're gonna make the Fury and

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Joshuay match. It will be one of the biggest fights

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in the history of boxing. And if Usak wins, there's

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probably a pretty still good possibility they might make a

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third fight with Usik, which I think would be less

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interesting for the public, but still a pretty big fight

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obviously if Joshua and him are fighting for undisputed yet

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again with all the belts, But we'll see what happens

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with that. But look, Joshua right now, he's living his

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best life.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: He's winning, he's for a knockouts, he's making huge money,

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he's putting on big events. And this is again when

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we did the card back in August when Terrence Crawford

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fought Israel Magmof that was the READ season, first ever

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card in the United States, first ever card outside of

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Saudi Arabia. This is now the second card outside of

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Saudi Arabia. First that's taking place in the UK, and

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I'm glad to see that. So, you know, it's all

472
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well and good for them to do some of their

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big fights in Riad that's their home. Obviously they're doing

474
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better via b Boll they're doing the rematch with Usik

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and Fury, but it's great to see them come to

476
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America and do a big show like they did go

477
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to the UK. Hopefully they'll be back to do another

478
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big show or more in twenty twenty five in the

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United States. So this is a good main event and

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by the way, as far as British boxing, this is

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as big as it gets for them other than the

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Theory fight because he got a belt and it's going

483
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to be a good, exciting fight, I have no doubt

484
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about that.

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Speaker 1: And it is going to captivate the weekend obviously in

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the UK as boxing early.

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Speaker 2: By the way, because in the United States. The card

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starts eleven am Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: That's early for some.

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Speaker 2: Boxing.

491
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Speaker 1: For most that's not that early. Eleven am Eastern, ten

492
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am Central might be a little earlier, certainly, just your time.

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Speaker 2: Z eight o'clock in the morning, if right, right?

494
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Speaker 1: Uh, again, that's Saturday afternoon US time for the meat

495
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of the card as it's going on. All right, So

496
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again we'll handicap that fight on the bet US Boxing Show,

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will handicap a couple of other fights on this card.

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Very intriguing European middleweight title fight because I get to

499
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see Hams of Charaz again against Tyler Denny. Tyler Denny

500
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has the belt, but Hams a Charaz on the rise. Uh,

501
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he's on this. We've got a light heavyweight interim title fight.

502
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We've got Anthony Kasachi fighting Josh Warrington, which was a

503
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title fight but now it's not a title fight.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Sharaz because that's the co feature apparently,

506
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and then and then cascade from there because there's a

507
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bevy of fights for nineteen ninety five US money here

508
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on the on the pay per view.

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Speaker 2: Here nineteen ninety nine. Le's let's two nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nineteen ninety nine, how much would you pay? Would

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you pay? Tween dollars and eighty three cents tax?

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Speaker 2: So look, Tyler Denny, uh, you know, he he's kind

513
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of not got the biggest name, not that the biggest reputation,

514
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has you know, a couple of losses, but you know,

515
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he scored a technical decision in his last fight in

516
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the defense against Felix Cash, who was undefeated. I think

517
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a lot of people thought that Cash would win that fight.

518
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So he's you know, he's going into this fight against

519
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Hiraz defending the European title yet again. But look, we

520
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all know that in a in a otherwise pretty terrible

521
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middleweight division, the Taraz is one of the bright lights.

522
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Charas look good. He's twenty oh sixty ninecouts, big and tall,

523
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long reach, good power. Has looked very impressive. Had an

524
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excellent performance in an eleventh round knockout against Austin M.

525
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L Williams, another undefeated up and comer in that weight

526
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class in America, that was on the five on five

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card back in June. He has a knockout in the

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first round against Liam Williams, who was a good contender

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for a long time. I mean, Sharaz has looked he's

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looked like the real deal, you know, especially when you

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compare it against what else is in the way class

532
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seems to me. And also by the way, uh Turkey

533
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Alshik named him like a Read Season ambassador. Clearly, everybody

534
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that's involved with this event other than Tyler Denny wants

535
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h hams of Sharaz to win the fight. Uh, and

536
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he probably should. I mean, he's the I think he's

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the favorite. He certainly should be. So that's that's the fight.

538
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We're gonna see if he can emerge. Uh. And and

539
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just add another significant point to his resume, which is

540
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winning a European title against a pretty solid uh you know,

541
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British opponent, and we'll see what he can do with that.

542
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That's the co feature. Again, keep in mind when you

543
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when we talk about these fights, it was purposely made

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as a highly British centric card.

545
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. With the other fights

546
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that are on here, and uh that includes the Joshua

547
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Boazi fight, which is for an end title And can

548
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you explain to me besides it's just IBF things. I

549
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,039
thought this was a Kosachi title defense, but now it's not,

550
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so what's going on with that as well?

551
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Speaker 2: Well? On the car it's a defense for Kasachi if

552
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you believe in the IBO, because he is also the

553
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IBO title. We don't usually talk about the IBO, but

554
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he does have that belt, that belt for whatever it's worth,

555
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which in my opinion is not much. Nonetheless, that is

556
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at stake in the fight. But in terms of the IBF,

557
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he had a mandatory to do. The Saudis and those

558
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:34,119
involved went ahead and made the Warrington fight with Kasachi

559
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without really consulting with the IBF. Remember, Kasachi scored one

560
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of the biggest upsets of the year back in May

561
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on the Fury and Usk undercard when he had the

562
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knockout win against Joe Cordina to win the IVF title.

563
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So they made the fight, and so the IBF they

564
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could have really been hard asses and they could have

565
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stripped them and you know, basically give them the finger

566
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if they wanted to. What they said was, you know what,

567
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this is a non title fight. It doesn't count as

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an IBF fight. So here's the deal. Kasahi's the IBF

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title holder at one hundred and thirty pounds. If he

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loses the fight, the title becomes vacant Warrington doesn't win it,

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So that's that's sort of the caveat there. So Warrington's

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not fighting for the belt and Kasachi's I guess, kind

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of defending it because if he wins the fight, he

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still keeps the belt.

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Speaker 1: But I just interject, what can I just interject on

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the varying levels of stupidity that the stupidity of the

577
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title is not on the line. It's a non title fight,

578
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but if he loses, we're gonna vacate the title. That

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I don't make stupidity stacked on top of stupidity. It's

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a non title fight.

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Speaker 2: Listen, the Idea's doing their rules, and that's what I said.

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So you know, for Warrington, I mean, he's got to

583
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be a little disappointed. You know, he's a two time

584
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featherweight titleer. He was looking forward to an opportunity. I mean,

585
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he can still win the IBO belt, I guess, but

586
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that's not too much of a considered title and that's

587
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but look, Warrington more important than Delts and all the

588
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,319
bullshit we're talking about with that stuff. He's got to

589
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get his fucking career backing gear. Because the guy's a

590
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lot two losses in a row. He got knocked out

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by Lee Wood in the last fight back in October

592
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:13,759
of twenty twenty three, so he's coming off that eleven

593
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,920
a month playoff, and before that he lost the IBF

594
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belt by majority decision which probably should have been unanimous

595
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,279
when Luis Alberto Lopez went to his hometown of Leeds,

596
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England and beat him Karen Square. So Warrington's been somewhat inactive.

597
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It's only he's only had one fight since the end

598
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of twenty twenty two and he's got the two losses

599
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in a row and he ain't getting any younger, and

600
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he's been some rough, tough fights. But Kasachi has been

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like a revelation, great story. Hard not to be happy

602
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for a guy like that that's given zero chance basically

603
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,079
against Cordina and not only wins the fight but wipes

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him out. So that was a big win for him,

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and he's going to try to capitalize by getting a

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good name like Warrington on his resume, whether it's for

607
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an IBF title or not. You know, as long as

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the winner of the fight title or no title is

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going to get another big money, big opportunity type of

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of a fight in their future.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough? What else here? Biwoltzi and this

612
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,880
fight that's upcoming for the wbos keep me straight. The

613
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WBO's vacant or is it the interim the interim light heavyweight.

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Speaker 2: Vacant interim type.

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Speaker 1: The vacant interim title for the WBO is on the line.

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We both know that, and the fans know that Archer

617
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better Biev has the full light heavyweight title for the

618
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WBO and Willie Hutchinson's the opponent here. What about this matchup?

619
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Speaker 2: So we'll go back before that. The next fight down

620
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the card is supposed to be Josh Kelly, who was

621
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a fifty four pound fighter that's come up to one sixty.

622
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He was supposed to fight Liam Smith, good all British

623
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fight that figured to be very action packed and maybe

624
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not for any kind of world title or anything, but

625
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certainly was going to put the winner in a great position.

626
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Liam Smith came down with an illness, had to withdraw

627
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from the fight and on like you know, four or

628
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five days notice, they got another undefeated fighter from England

629
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and Ishmiel Davis to fillin. So he's gonna fight Josh

630
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Kelly in that fight, and so you know who that

631
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
knows when you're dealing with with late replacements. But at

632
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least he's coming off of a solid win he fought

633
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earlier this year, so he's not coming off like some

634
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,440
crazy long layo. And in terms of Josh Kelly, you

635
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,480
know a lot of people think he's going places. He's

636
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got the one loss. He did look really good in

637
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,880
the last fight against not a big name, but he

638
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,519
knocked out a fighter named Placido Ramirez, which I actually

639
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,759
watched that fight on his own, and he looked very

640
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,640
sharp in that fight. So you know, he's got a chance.

641
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:29,440
With a nice win, he's gonna go places. Maybe they

642
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,079
can reschedule that Liam Smith fight at some other point.

643
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The next fight that you mentioned is Dubwatsi and Willie

644
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:36,720
Hutchinson's fight. This is a good matchup. You mentioned it's

645
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for the interim title. Now. The reason why that is

646
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the case because the organizations like to do the things

647
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that they do. But basically what they're doing is because

648
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everybody's in waiting for the big one, the undisputed fight

649
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between Better bvn bople The organizations are getting a little

650
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,759
antsy because their titles haven't been active, so they're allowing

651
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,759
some of these interim fights to let things kind of

652
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,960
shake out prior to the undisputed fight, and then once

653
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that undisputified happened, there'll be more jockeying to see who

654
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gets the next shot if they're going to strip a guy,

655
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if it's gonna was going to become vacant. But in

656
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terms of the fight itself, Watsi is undefeated, a former

657
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Olympic medal winner from England, and he's coming off his

658
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biggest win. Remember earlier this year, back in February, he

659
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had the fight against his good pal Dan Aziz that

660
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was a British and Commonwealth title fight had you know,

661
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big stakes as he was undefeated. Blatsi was undefeated and

662
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:28,480
turned out to be an excellent fight. He scored a

663
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knockdown against Aziz, two of them as a matter of fact,

664
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in the eleventh round. He ended up winning, you know,

665
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:35,319
a pretty clear decision. And so now he comes off

666
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,000
that fight and he goes into the fight against Willie Hutchinson.

667
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Now Hutchinson, he's got the one loss, but if you

668
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720
talk to people in the know, they'll tell you he's

669
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one of the greatest amateurs in the history of Scotland

670
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and He's coming along nicely as a professional. A lot

671
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of people, uh think he had the chance to be

672
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a future champ. He was on the five on five

673
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card also back in June he got the biggest win

674
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of his career in a sort of like the young

675
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guy against the veteran. He beat Craig Richards on a

676
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,559
decision in an excellent fight. And now he goes to

677
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,759
this fight against Blattie. This to MEDJ we'll talk about it,

678
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I guess on our bet Us show. But you know,

679
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
I could see a thousand different ways this fight could go.

680
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This is a very quality matchup. The winner this fight

681
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:17,279
is gonna put himself in a great position, you know,

682
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:21,480
in the light heavyweight division, right below the winner or

683
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,680
in perhaps even the loser of the undisputed fight. So

684
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,599
there's there's bragging rights in this fight. There's Blatzi's undefeated record,

685
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200
there's the interim delt, there's obviously the chance to move

686
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,960
on to something bigger and better and stay in these

687
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,799
bigger money fights on these riad season cards. So there's

688
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a lot of sake. It's England versus Scotland. I mean,

689
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there's a lot of stuff going on in this one.

690
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Speaker 1: All right, and one more fight is the Mark Chamberlain fight.

691
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We don't want to leave that one out. That's also

692
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,240
part of this pay per view. Anything compelling about this.

693
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Speaker 2: So this is Mark Chamberlain undefeated, sixteen to zero against

694
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,839
Josh Padley who's fourteen to oh but Padly is more,

695
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,799
you know, like more about the club level of a fighter.

696
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,519
Chamberlain has maybe a little bit of a notch ahead.

697
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,039
But the main thing that you should know about it

698
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:04,319
is this Mark Chamberlain is uh. He is the favorite

699
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,799
fighter of Turkey al Shikh. He is hand picked to

700
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,759
be on these cards both in Saudi Raby and this

701
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,480
card here in Wembley Stadium because he is Turkey's favorite fighter.

702
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And although this is not official, I am told by

703
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multiple sources that if Mark Chamberlain wins this fight and

704
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
all is well health wise, that he will be on

705
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:25,079
the Tyson Fury Alexander Usik two undercard and he will

706
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:28,480
be challenging Dennis Brenschik for the WBO title. So this

707
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,519
is a very fight. So Turkey is doing his thing

708
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,200
for his guy. There's a very like, very likely chance

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that that that this fight with a victory. And by

710
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,400
the way, chamberlains looked really good in the recent fights

711
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,160
when he's fought on these read season cards. I mean,

712
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,119
you know, his last fight, he scored a spectacular first

713
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,400
round knockout. That was back in May. He fought on

714
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,400
the undercard. Also in his previous fight in Saudi Rabi

715
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,920
back in March of last year, that was a fourth

716
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200
round knockout against Gavin Wynn. That was a very good

717
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,680
victory for him. And now he's going to a third

718
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,519
fight on one of the Riot of cards and he's

719
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,839
got a chance. I believe that, and I don't have

720
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,799
any reason to believe that my information is inaccurate that

721
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,519
he's got a title shot riding on this fight. It

722
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,480
may not be an official elimination, doubt, but he's got

723
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,079
the Brenchick fight right there in his palm of his hand.

724
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Speaker 1: With a victory, there's a wink and a nod from

725
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,599
the guy that's paying the freight. So stand by for

726
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:21,519
Mark Chamberlain and Josh Padley. So it's like brunch in

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the East Street. It wasn't surprise Saturday morning.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not surprising me at all. If if if

729
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Chamberlain it comes out victorious, that in the ring after

730
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the fight, we might see Turkey or somebody say that

731
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,039
you know, you know you're getting a title shot in

732
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the next fight or something like that.

733
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Speaker 1: All good on that. So we gave you lots on

734
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,440
the card itself. Let's give you more on how to

735
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,359
see it. And we've already made mention of this that

736
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,160
it's a lesser price, it's a better value for you

737
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,559
the fan. Let's talk about that more right now. As mentioned,

738
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our friends at PPV dot com are in fact involved

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with this. Anthony Joshua Daniel Dubois IBF now world time.

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I'll fight Joshua looking to regain a portion of the

741
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heavyweight title. Wimbley Stadium is going to have over ninety

742
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thousand people. But if you can't be there in attendance,

743
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the next best thing is to watch it through our

744
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friends at PPV dot com. Hello Mark Bocardi with PPV

745
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,800
dot com. Good to have you back aboard. This is

746
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two weeks in a row. Have you recovered from Canelo

747
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,280
weekend in Vegas with another emphatic win for him. I

748
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,440
know you were there when we talked to you last week.

749
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,639
All good coming off the Canelo week and now hit

750
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it to the British heavyweights.

751
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It was a wild week in Vegas.

752
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,679
You had two big events going on. You had the

753
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UFC at the Sphere, which I was able to catch

754
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,519
part of, and then you had the big Canelo fight.

755
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:43,119
And you know, I tell you it almost I don't

756
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,519
want to say it doesn't matter who Canelo fights, because

757
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,880
clearly it matters, but the guy generates an enormous amount

758
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:57,679
of attention, excitement, patriotism amongst his fellow Mexicans. So anytime

759
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,840
Canelo fights, it doesn't matter if it's exciting in Vegas

760
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400
because he draws such a great crowd.

761
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,159
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say he's arguably the

762
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,599
number one draw at least in North America. You can

763
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:11,280
make the argument now that we're going to segue to

764
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000
England about you know what Tyson Fury means or what

765
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,800
Anthony Joshua means. But in terms of the entire country

766
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,880
of Mexico, this is national hero. We can't state that enough,

767
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,039
and he keeps delivering. So that was last weekend. We

768
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now turn our attention to popular, prominent, former two time

769
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,960
unified heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua and a matchup with his

770
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,480
countryman Daniel Dubois here, and this is gonna be fascinating

771
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,519
because especially if it's Joshua probably in the mix again

772
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:48,000
for maybe another shot at uh sick, don't know. But

773
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,320
if Tyson Fury wins the rematch, I mean you're in

774
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,639
prime position now for a Fury undisputed battle with Anthony Joshua.

775
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,199
That's really the subplot here, I believe. What do you think, Mark, Yeah, no,

776
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,039
I agree. I think gets a great time for heavyweight boxing.

777
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,519
You know, speaking of time, I wish that some of

778
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:07,400
these events took.

779
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Speaker 3: Place at a better time for a US based audience

780
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,679
because some of the start times when they're overseas, when

781
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,039
they're in Wembley like this one will be, or when

782
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:21,079
they're in Saudi Arabia, it becomes more challenging to get

783
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,119
attention in the US for a you know, eleven am Eastern,

784
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,599
eight am Eastern start time. That's that's a bit of

785
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,039
a challenge. But I do think it is a very

786
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:32,639
important fight for the heavyweight division, and that's really what's

787
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,400
exciting to me about this fight. Yeah, the combatants, obviously,

788
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800
it's exciting, and it will be at Wembley, right, talk

789
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,039
about excitement. My goodness, but for this the for this

790
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,960
division in this sport, which is the most important division

791
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,519
in the sport. This fight is going to determine a

792
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:47,760
lot over the next few years.

793
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: And and the big thing is Anthony Joshua after the loss,

794
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,880
the second loss to Usik, has now scored victory after victory,

795
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,480
and the last three of them, by the way, by

796
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,440
knockout in a decisive fashion. So you've got some build

797
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,559
up here for this. And one of the big things

798
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:03,360
that we're talking about with PPV dot com, I mean,

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number one, we always emphasize this. You don't need a

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long term subscription, you don't have to worry about a

801
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six month, much less one year commitment. But the price

802
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,360
point on this one for the consumer, I'm saying this,

803
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,800
and I see you nodding. It's much more reasonable here

804
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,039
after a year in which almost everything seems to be

805
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,800
eighty or ninety dollars for a boxing pay per view,

806
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not the case with this one.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the big business news around this particular

810
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,800
fight is a price at nineteen ninety nine, as you said,

811
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so fans have been clamoring for lower priced pay per views.

812
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So now let's see what happens. Let's see if you know,

813
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,440
those fans who have been crying for lower priced pay

814
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,760
per views. I don't mean that negatively. They've been, you know,

815
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,679
demanding lower priced pay per views. Now there's one here,

816
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,960
so let's see what the business result is. But yeah,

817
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,559
I do find it fascinating. We've all been talked about

818
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,119
in the industry, is you know, talking to promoters about

819
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:00,880
trying to get lower price pay per views to make

820
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,639
it more enticing, maybe reduce the amount of piracy that

821
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,840
happens for a pay per view. So now that we

822
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,719
have it in front of us, we'll see what the

823
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demand actually is.

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00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: Sure, and I think for most fans they understand if

825
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,880
you're talking about the undisputed heavyweight championship that's going to

826
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,960
be priced differently, at Canelo fight, that's going to be

827
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,679
priced differently. This seems much more reasonable for the American

828
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,960
fight fan, which is primarily who we're catering to, to

829
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,440
be interested in this, because so many times the opposite

830
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,920
is true over in Britain in the UK, where their

831
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pay per view is priced just like this nineteen ninety five,

832
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twenty four to ninety five for their fight fans bring

833
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more of them in what do I know? One thing

834
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I do know is they're going to get a phenomenal

835
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interactive experience with PPV dot com and our buddy Ryan O'Hara,

836
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,320
great boxing writer and insider. He's going to be in

837
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the live chat. Correct follow up on that, on the

838
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user experience that they're going to get and getting to

839
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,320
go back and forth with Ryan as the card unfolds.

840
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes, Ryan will be our guest host

841
00:38:56,679 --> 00:39:00,840
for the day. Ryan's hosted a few times for us.

842
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,639
He's excellent, gives great insight. We've gotten some incredible feedback

843
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:09,039
from our customers after Ryan has hosted events before, so

844
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,199
I think fans will be really happy. And yeah, like

845
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,559
you said, and your regular listeners have heard me say

846
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this before, there's no subscription needed. You come in, you

847
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buy this fight for nineteen ninety nine, no ongoing commitment,

848
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just come back when you want and buy the next one.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have a tremendous time. I will confess

850
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:26,920
to you I was watching in the live chat. I

851
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,800
even interacted with Jim Lampley and Lance Plugmyron Company during

852
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,480
the Canelo broadcast. It's a cool feature to get to

853
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,840
exchange back and forth with some of the insiders and

854
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,519
some of the great pundents, etc. Lampley obviously is a

855
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tremendous voice and historian of the sport, so Ryan's going

856
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,559
to do a great job with that one more time.

857
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,159
This is Saturday afternoon. I know there's tons going on,

858
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,280
tons of college football, but if you're interested in Anthony

859
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Joshua and Daniel Dubois a piece of the heavyweight title.

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PPV dot com is where to get a hold of this.

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No long term subscription needed. Just buy this event and

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you have no further obligation and they're gonna have a blast.

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Ten eighty p quality, the interaction that we're talking about,

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are gonna have a blast on PPV dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's all great. I mean, it's the best

866
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,280
way to watch. Eleven am Eastern is when this pay

867
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,280
per view card starts on Saturday. By the time the

868
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,360
main event goes on will probably be late afternoon East

869
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,880
Coast time, you know, four ish, but that'll be adjusted

870
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,440
as the fight goes on based on how long the

871
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,599
undercards go. But eleven am is the technical star time.

872
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Main event time will be later in the late afternoon.

873
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Love it, Joshua du Bois Mark Bocardi, thank you, and

874
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480
again we say to the fans, if you're getting this

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pay per view this weekend, do it with our friends

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at PPV dot com.

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Speaker 2: You bet.

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Speaker 1: Thanks DJ Again publicly thank you to PPV dot com.

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They continue to sponsor us. I know they're involved with

880
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you and your substack and your newsletter. We cannot encourage

881
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the fans enough. Why go down the road of a

882
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long term subscription when you can pay for what you

883
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want with PPV dot com. Like we were just saying

884
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:07,719
with Mark there, including this one coming on Saturday night

885
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,480
in London, Saturday afternoon US time with the Joshua Dubois

886
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:15,159
main event. Shall we move on to.

887
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,159
Speaker 2: The news Let's do it.

888
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,599
Speaker 1: Oh look, Jeron Innies may actually be fighting for the

889
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,800
IBF title in the United States. When last we left

890
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,599
this soap opera, I thought it was murky and that

891
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,840
he might be having to fight in Germany or on

892
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:32,519
Pluto or somewhere else.

893
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Well, he'll be defending the IBF title, I guess against

894
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,400
his mandatory Karen chikanzi Ho. He already whipped up on

895
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:42,559
last year in a one sided shutout that was not

896
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,840
competitive even for two seconds, And we don't have to

897
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,079
realigate the whole thing about how matter In Boxing lost

898
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:49,880
the pursepit and you know they didn't make the Brian

899
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Norman fight and all the other shit that goes along

900
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,760
with it. But the bottom line was that the German

901
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,639
promoter that promotes Takonzi in and has to give up

902
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,000
like sixty five percent of the money they won the

903
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,199
perstpit in a big upset. So now I am told

904
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,119
by those involved that even though the German promoter, that

905
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360
is the folks that deal with Chikazi and that is

906
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,679
an outfit from Germany called P two M Box Promotion,

907
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,199
that they're in discussions with Mattrom Boxing about doing some

908
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,440
kind of deal that would then you know, either co

909
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,599
promoted or sell them the fight or whatever it is.

910
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,880
So Matchrom would take over the promotion of the event

911
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,440
and bring the fight to Philadelphia on November the ninth

912
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:27,920
to headline at his own card. And as I have

913
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,199
now dubbed it, Eddie Hearn from Matrom Boxing is looking

914
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,599
to do the Bam and the Boots and Bam Show.

915
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:35,599
You're gonna have Boots in the main event in his

916
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,519
hometown against Chakazin again. If they get this shit finalized,

917
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,039
and from my understanding, at least as we take this,

918
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,000
I'm not aware that it's done. And obviously they're a

919
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,599
little tied up this weekend given that they're involved with

920
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,400
the Wembley card and they're the promoter of Joshua and

921
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,519
others on the show. But if they can get that

922
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,679
worked out, that would be the main event and then

923
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,039
the other fight that would be on the card in

924
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,000
the co feature. And it's smart of Mattrum because if

925
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,320
you got a ship main event like Ennis against Chikazian,

926
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,000
at least give yourself a chance has to do some business,

927
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:02,880
at least in terms of getting people to watch it,

928
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,880
because you got your other top young American star besides Ennis,

929
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,760
and that's Jesse Bam Rodriguez, who was the WBC's junior

930
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,599
bantamweight champion, and they're matching him up with Pedro Givar,

931
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,719
who is the interim champion to fight in the co feature,

932
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,880
which is a pretty solid fight. And so that's not

933
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,559
so much a secret because when the WBC, they do

934
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:25,559
a press conference every week in Mexico City, and Guivara

935
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,360
was one of their guests at the press cards. He

936
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basically with the WBC announced that he's going to be

937
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:34,880
fighting against Bam in this fight in November in Philadelphia,

938
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,719
and obviously they're not going to do Rodriguez against Guevara

939
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:40,360
as a main event in Philadelphia. I mean, it's there's

940
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,400
nothing wrong with the fight, but that's not you know,

941
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,119
in boxing, you're supposed to fish for the fish. Are

942
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,440
You're not gonna ri Philly? You do that in like

943
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,840
San Antonio is hometown, mate.

944
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: But we pieced this together and ah, there's the co feature.

945
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 2: But I have to tell you though I'm as a fan,

946
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,480
I mean, look, the main event, well we don't have

947
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:59,760
to you know, it stinks. Okay, fine, but from this

948
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,280
point of the star power, in terms of my interest

949
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,519
in the fighters as a as a reporter as also

950
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,280
as a fan, two of the fighters I'm most interested

951
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,599
in are Geron Boots Tennis and Jesse Vam Rodriguez. And

952
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:12,679
they get to two of these guys, you know, in

953
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,400
title defenses on the same card. And with Dan being

954
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
in like a pretty solid fight against Buavara, you know

955
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,039
who used to be a champion in one hundred and

956
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:21,639
eight pound weight, Cass has been on a pretty good

957
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,559
run now that he's in the Junior bandemweight division. That's

958
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,719
going to probably be a very fun, exciting fight. He's a,

959
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,519
you know, one of those all you know, a typical

960
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,159
Mexican warrior type fighters. So that's what they're looking to

961
00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:32,880
do for that November card. To the extent that I

962
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,960
was actually thinking when I heard about this and was

963
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,320
writing a little bit about it in my newsletter the

964
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,559
other day, that I might, depending on what else is

965
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,760
going on, you know, maybe I make the trip to

966
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,519
Philly for the fight. It's going to be busy, because

967
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,599
I was also thinking I could jump on the train

968
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,000
or get in my car and drive three hours to

969
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:50,880
the south to go to Norfolk for the the Keshan

970
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,920
Davis event and the Brian Norgan fight. So we'll see

971
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,480
what I'm gonna do. And then the next week, of course,

972
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,079
is that Mike Tyson, Jake Paul craziness, So it could

973
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:58,320
be a little busy coming over.

974
00:44:58,199 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: Will It will be a little bit a little crazy

975
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,159
on that. So I'm just curious on one thing, and

976
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,360
we don't have to go down a rabbit hole. Would

977
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,039
they be looking to pay Chickazian more as an incentive

978
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:13,559
to having fight in Philadelphia? Somehow, some way, Otherwise, why

979
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:16,440
would the promotion company that primarily is based in Europe

980
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,119
and in Germany not try to have this in Germany?

981
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,679
Or do they realize this is a total dud even

982
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,679
in Germany and we can't sell it. What's the dynamic there?

983
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,800
I'm genuinely curious.

984
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,159
Speaker 2: I don't know, but i'd be I just saint my

985
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,000
first rodeo of writing about the business of boxing. It's

986
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,559
about the money. It's always about the money. So one

987
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:41,159
would have to assume that that maybe Natch and regretted

988
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:43,039
what they did and is now going to have to

989
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:46,480
sweeten the pot to give Chakazi and his team, you know,

990
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:51,440
certain financial things, certain whatever perks, whatever it is to

991
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:54,920
entice them to be willing to fight in But.

992
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Clearly from a business standpoint, they have leverage match Room

993
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,679
to say, we're gonna put this thing in a place

994
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,920
where it's gonna make a ton of money and be

995
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:08,320
full because Boots has a following. What are you gonna

996
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,559
do put it in a place that has five hundred

997
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:13,440
or one thousand people to watch this in Germany or

998
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,880
two thousand people. I don't know. They're just going off

999
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,199
the top of my head. So I'm just trying to

1000
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,559
understanding the dynamic works.

1001
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: The folks that run p P two M box Protion,

1002
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,400
they're filthy rich. They did two million dollars plus on

1003
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,039
this fight. They knew what they were doing and whether

1004
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:31,280
they can exploit that to make that money back or not?

1005
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,320
Right right, that's you know. I don't think they were

1006
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,960
that concerned if they had to take a loss. But

1007
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,480
I do think that they're gonna have some inducement again

1008
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,599
if they can get the deal worked out where they

1009
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:41,400
would come and do the fighting filing maybe who knows,

1010
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Maybe they'll get a piece of the gate. Maybe they'll

1011
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:45,800
get you know, uh, they'll they'll get rights in their

1012
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,480
own country to exploit the broadcast whatever. There's a lot

1013
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,239
of ways to skin the cats, so to speak. So

1014
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,360
we'll see. Again, it's not a done deal. But if

1015
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,400
the if Matt, Troum and de Zonne get it the

1016
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,199
way they want it, which seems to be at least

1017
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,320
on course that take place, it would probably be Boots

1018
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,760
against the Kazi and in Philly for the rematch that

1019
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,480
nobody wants to see, and Bam against Jura, as I

1020
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,679
like to call it, TJ. It's the Boots and Bam show.

1021
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: The Boots and Bam show for that one. All right,

1022
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,199
we do know because this was announced. Speaking of the middleweights,

1023
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,800
and we talked earlier about Hams of Shiraz kind of

1024
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000
moving up the ladder in the middleway division. Janebeca lim Knulei.

1025
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:23,519
Janebec will be back defending only one of the titles

1026
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:28,760
though against Mikhailovich Andre Mikhalovitch. And now instead of this

1027
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,280
fight being in the United States, it's in Australia coming

1028
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,039
in October. Again for the fans that may or may

1029
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:35,920
not be keeping up with this crap, we do our best.

1030
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,679
Dan does a great job of keeping us in line.

1031
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,840
Janabek was to have defended both titles, correct the first

1032
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,440
goal around back about a month or so ago, six

1033
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,360
weeks or so July, so it's been longer than that.

1034
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,280
But he was dehydrated, having trouble making weight, and so

1035
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,760
now this is for only one of the belts. Correct

1036
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,840
in Australia, go ahead.

1037
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: So here's the bottom line. We're supposed to be July

1038
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,599
thirteenth in Vegas. As you mentioned, Jenebec could not make

1039
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,920
the weight, was dehydrated, had to go to the hospital

1040
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,119
and never even went to the way and the fight

1041
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,639
was canceled. Like the day before the fight, they had

1042
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,239
taken Mcalavich, he had flown and his team seven thousand

1043
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
miles to basically sit there and you know, do an

1044
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,519
interview on ESPN. Now supposedly they were paid part of

1045
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,320
the purse for their trouble. And they went back and

1046
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,519
Jenebec said he was not moving up. He was going

1047
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:26,639
to remain at middleweight because the organizations, Remember they sent

1048
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,119
a letter saying, you know, you got to let us

1049
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:29,679
know what you're going to do. We need to see

1050
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,239
a doctor's note to make sure it's safe that you

1051
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,679
make the weight. The WBO went through the whole litany

1052
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:36,719
of stuff, and then the IBF when he said I

1053
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,199
was staying at this division. Remember this is an IBF mandatory,

1054
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,199
wasn't a WBO mandatory. The IBF then ordered another perse

1055
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,480
bid because they had made a deal. They ended up

1056
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:50,000
doing the perse bid, and as we discussed before, in

1057
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:52,480
one of the closest purs bids of all time, top

1058
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:54,719
ranked bid three hundred and fifty thousand. They're the promoter

1059
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,719
for Jenebec and the No Limit Boxing folks for the

1060
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,800
promoter for Mikalovich to bid three hundred fifty one thousand dollars,

1061
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,239
so as a thousand dollars difference that sends jenebec from

1062
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,199
fighting on a top rank card in the United States

1063
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,320
to Australia to fight on the The Australian promoter mckalvich

1064
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,440
is from New Zealand, but he's fought in Australia. He's

1065
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,079
basically the home fighter in this case. Now, as far

1066
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,800
as the titles go, this is an IBF mandatory, so

1067
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,239
that was what was being overseen by the purse bit.

1068
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,360
My understanding is that the WBO would have sanctioned the fight,

1069
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,280
but that the mcalovich people decided they didn't want to

1070
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,000
do it for the for the WBO title. And I'm

1071
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,039
gonna tell you why. If you're fighting, I see I'm

1072
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:40,679
We're on a video, so I see you making a face.

1073
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:41,800
You're confused because you don't know.

1074
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Why would you not want two belts common sense.

1075
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why. It's actually a very intelligent thing.

1076
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:50,039
Number One, you're saving yourself three percent on your sanction face,

1077
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,280
so the money is being saved, and when you're only

1078
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,480
making your percentage of three hundred and fifty grand, that's

1079
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:59,719
significant number. Two. In a unified fight with the IBF,

1080
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,360
they wave the morning of the fight weight check. So

1081
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,880
if it's a WBO and IBF, they wave the weight

1082
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,000
check because the other organizations don't use the weight check.

1083
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,480
But as an IBF only fight, that means that Genetek

1084
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:14,039
is gonna have to weigh in on the morning of

1085
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:15,880
the fight, and that's going to put him at a

1086
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,280
disadvantage for a guy that couldn't make the weight to last.

1087
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,679
They want to put as much pressure as possible, so

1088
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,679
he has to be within ten pounds of one sixty

1089
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,480
come the morning of the fight, So that's going to

1090
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,559
meet a lot more added pressure on him in terms

1091
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,000
of his physical well being. That's the reason why they're

1092
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:33,400
doing that. They want to you.

1093
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: All the time. That's why you are who you are

1094
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,719
because you hear that and you're explaining that. So that's

1095
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,599
fascinating that it's only for one of the titles. There's

1096
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:44,239
why please don't tell me. For the love of all

1097
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,480
that's holy, has the WBO said if he loses, he

1098
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,960
loses our title, even though the title's not on the line.

1099
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,519
For God's sake, stupidity on top.

1100
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Of stidy will, I will read it to you what

1101
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,159
I wrote in my article. If Mikalovich wins, the WBO

1102
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,000
belt will become vacant. If Alan Connolly wins, the title

1103
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,320
will be still unified.

1104
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,039
Speaker 1: That's life baby, all right, I say no more commentary

1105
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,360
on that. I've already said it twice. Now let's move

1106
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,599
on shows. That's October. That's October in Australia, Chobe.

1107
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: But by the way, this is a crazy thing. Here

1108
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,559
we are on as we tape this on September nineteenth,

1109
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,119
that's right. I announced this fight on on September eighteenth,

1110
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:24,760
with the fight at self taking place October fourth. Everything

1111
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,400
has been a rush job on this from the time

1112
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,239
being when they did the purse but then they had

1113
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,119
the fifteen days they get the contracts and I actually

1114
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,880
spoke to some people involved on the genetics side. They've

1115
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,679
been rushing to get all the visa shit done and

1116
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:36,119
getting all the paperwork done.

1117
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: It's really cos theoretically you might want to be in

1118
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,119
Australia like next week to get acclimated for a couple

1119
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:43,880
of and that's forth. Yeah.

1120
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,519
Speaker 2: Because it was a purse bid, No Limit Boxing is

1121
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,280
under no obligation to pay for hotels more than three

1122
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,760
days they're under no obligation to anything more than coach airfare.

1123
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,800
They're on no obligation to do a lot of things.

1124
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,119
Now they'll go. My understanding is that the management or

1125
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:01,079
maybe even top ranked they may go a little bit

1126
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:04,639
into their pocket to allow him to fly better accommodations,

1127
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,559
to get there a little earlier. You know, that's not

1128
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,679
going to cost that much money to go a higher

1129
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,199
level of airfare, or you know, a couple actionized in

1130
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,679
the hotel. You know, to make sure you're in a

1131
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,320
better position. But that's what happens when you do a

1132
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,920
purse bid, especially in the IBF, you're at the bare minimum.

1133
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,280
That's why it's always better to make sure because you

1134
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,760
get to extract perks. Right when you do a straight

1135
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,280
deal on a perspse and this you sign a form contract,

1136
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,119
there are no perks.

1137
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: And this is complicated by the fact that Australia is

1138
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,559
fourteen thirteen fourteen hours different from the United States time,

1139
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:37,960
so night is day and day is night, and you've

1140
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,360
got to get there and act like a couple of weeks.

1141
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,599
Speaker 2: And I understanding is that Janebek has been training in Kazakhstan. Okay,

1142
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,280
it's not as dramatic. But here's the thing. It's still

1143
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:50,280
hard to get from fucking Kazakhstan to like Sydney, Australian.

1144
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: That's not sorry, Do they have a NonStop from pretty.

1145
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: Sure they don't. And the one thing you should know

1146
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,039
though here in the United States, the fight will be

1147
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:02,360
on ESPN plus place in normal evening time. I am

1148
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,719
told they haven't announced the exact time, but it'll be

1149
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,559
like an evening thing in Australia. But again similar, think

1150
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:10,159
about it like we're watching an in a way fight.

1151
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,159
It'll take place in the early morning hours.

1152
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,559
Speaker 1: And we got breakfast and the IBF middleweight titles. What's

1153
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480
exactly all right? Good on the news on that one

1154
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,119
and one more, Mario Barrios will defend the WBC welterway title.

1155
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,920
And this is interesting. It's gonna be on the Tyson

1156
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,159
Paul undercard already set up for at and T Stadium

1157
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:33,639
in Arlington, correct, give me more.

1158
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they're gonna do that show on the fifteenth

1159
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,360
of November. And like whatever you think about the main event,

1160
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,440
real fights, circus, craziness, nonsense, love it, hate it whatever,

1161
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,639
between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. The undercard now has

1162
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:48,960
two bonifide, you know, world title fights. Obviously, we got

1163
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,119
the much anticipated rematch between Katie Taylor and the Man

1164
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:55,119
in Toronto that was announced when the original main event

1165
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,119
was announced. And now they have done a deal with

1166
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:02,239
PBC to bring Mario Barrios and Able Ramos onto this

1167
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,960
card for Barrios to make defense of the WBC welter

1168
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:09,719
white belt. It's not the greatest matchup in the world.

1169
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,039
Ramos a little bit long in the tooth, a little

1170
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,519
you know, kind of falling into journeyman ish category. But

1171
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:19,559
Barrios is a good young fighter, entertaining fighter, been looking good,

1172
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:23,480
you know not. I mean, I've certainly seen the worst fights.

1173
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,119
It does add a little bit of spice to the undercard.

1174
00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:30,400
He defended the interim title back in May on the

1175
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,639
Canelo undercard when he defeated a Fabian Maydon remembered Crawford

1176
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,719
had been made champion in recess and for whatever the

1177
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,639
reason it was the WBC when he did that, they

1178
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:43,800
didn't immediately elevate Brios from the interim to the full

1179
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,719
so he defended the interim title and then it took

1180
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
a couple of weeks after the Crawford announcement was made.

1181
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,800
Crawford then obviously fought at one fifty four in August,

1182
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,280
but it was within a week or two or three

1183
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,440
that Barrios was elevated, so this will actually be his

1184
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,519
first defense of the full title. And what's more notable

1185
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:03,800
is that before uh this was made and after he

1186
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,559
had fought Fabing may don It, there was a lot

1187
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,239
of conversation in PBC Land that they were trying to

1188
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,000
make a deal for Barrios to defend against Manny Pacya.

1189
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,159
And then Manny Pacyall was going to come out of

1190
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,440
the boxing retirement, always had a couple of exhibitions and

1191
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,719
they were going to try to do a pay per

1192
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,239
view sometime between then and the end of the year,

1193
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,239
maybe early next year. And the timing was critical for Paqiao,

1194
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,599
according to his team, because he's about to launch a

1195
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:28,960
new campaign to try to regain his old Senate seat

1196
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,480
that he had uh you know, he had deacated and

1197
00:55:31,639 --> 00:55:34,639
run in the Philippil things right, ran for president, did

1198
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,880
not win that election. Now he was looking to be

1199
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,239
re elected to the Senate seat. So when you're when

1200
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,039
you're going through the campaign and going through all the

1201
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:43,599
political stuff, you know that takes up a tremendous amount

1202
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,599
of time. So his window to still have another boxing

1203
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:49,079
match was really basically the end of this year, maybe

1204
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:51,519
the very beginning of next year. But now that apparently

1205
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:53,559
is not going to happen because the identity of theod

1206
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:56,119
he wanted to fight was Barrioso. Baros has made this

1207
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:56,880
deal to fight.

1208
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: Pacio doesn't need to be fighting. You and I agree

1209
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,039
on that.

1210
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:00,559
Speaker 2: Well, if you watch the exit and that he had

1211
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,679
parrel not that long ago, he looked like seventy five

1212
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,360
years old.

1213
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: You told me, And so Barrios part of that show

1214
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,639
that's coming in November again. Tyson and Jake Paul were

1215
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:13,960
on the field doing a face off pregame in Dallas

1216
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,119
Cowboy jerseys prior to the Cowboys Saints game last Sunday.

1217
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:21,880
That was interesting. Will we get to November fifteenth with that?

1218
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,239
We'll see. But at least now we know we have

1219
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,800
a couple of title fights that are going to be

1220
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,079
part of that card. Hopefully we get to that. For

1221
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,320
Jake Paul and for Mike Tyson, all right, nostalgia and

1222
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,880
then we are good. All right? So it was what

1223
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:40,440
let me do my math nineteen nineteen well, no women.

1224
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,159
Fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago, on this day, on

1225
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,559
September the eighteenth, Thursday, as we released the podcast into

1226
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:50,639
the weekend on to Friday, that Floyd Mayweather came out

1227
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,760
of a two year retirement himself and wiped out Juan

1228
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,239
Manuel Marquez. September eighteenth, two thousand and nine, Now fifteen

1229
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,480
years ago. You were there that night for Floyd's performance.

1230
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:02,559
What do you recollect?

1231
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: I recollect domination. A little less than two years in

1232
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,679
December of seven, I just looked this up. He had

1233
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,480
scored the spectacular knockout against Ricky Hatton in their big,

1234
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:16,360
humongous mega fight. I remember how emotional Floyd got at

1235
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760
the postfight press converts and talked about how he was

1236
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,400
going to retire. He actually did retire, and he came back.

1237
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,239
That was December. He came back in September of the

1238
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,719
following year, so not quite a two year layoff, and

1239
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,000
in his first fight back, he fought Marquez. Now Marquez,

1240
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,880
who's you know, an all time great Hall of Famer,

1241
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:34,480
you know, won titles in multiple weight classes, has obviously

1242
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,360
the great rivalry and massive knockout against Manny Pacya. Going

1243
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,920
into this fight though again Mayweather, you know, there was

1244
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,440
lots of questions, how is he going to look after

1245
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,719
the long laugh a couple of years especially, you know,

1246
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,599
when you're a rhythm fighter like Floyd was, where you

1247
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:49,320
were lying your quickness and your speeding, your reflexes, that

1248
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,320
that may not all be there after such a long laugh.

1249
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,159
And even though Marquez was moving up in wait, he

1250
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,639
was the the you know, he was the Ring magazine,

1251
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:01,559
a linear lightweight champion at that time. I mean, he

1252
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,239
was clearly the underdog. But Mayweather, again, there was a

1253
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,159
lot of question marks about where he would be coming

1254
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,679
back after the layoff. Remember, they had agreed to the

1255
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:13,719
fight at one hundred and forty four pounds. Marquees had

1256
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:16,639
never fought above lightweight, so even though it wasn't a

1257
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:20,960
world title fight, it was still they still were fighting

1258
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,159
within the welterweight division. They contracted at forty four, and

1259
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:27,880
Floyd purposely came in at one forty six, so he

1260
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,559
wasn't above the welterweight limit, but he was two pounds

1261
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,320
heavier than what the contract was, and he paid Marquees.

1262
00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:35,840
You know, however, many hundreds of thousands of dollars of

1263
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,920
what was in there I want to say it was

1264
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,800
six hundred grand, like three hundred pounds or something like that,

1265
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:42,760
that he ended up paying him for the privilege of

1266
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,880
being two pounds above the contract weight. But he could

1267
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,239
have been two pounds under He could have is three

1268
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,559
hundred per pounds, so he paid him six hundred thousand.

1269
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,079
Here's the reality. Though he could have been fucking on weight,

1270
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:56,960
he could have been underweight, he could have been overweight.

1271
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,280
Fucking Marquez did not stand a chance after You just

1272
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,320
had to watch the begin the fight Floyd. If you

1273
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,559
didn't know he had been off almost two years, you

1274
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:06,360
would have never thought he had missed a day in

1275
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,400
the gym. He scored a knockdown against Marquees in round two.

1276
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,880
Not completely a shocker. If you take a look through

1277
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,320
the history of Juan min Wal Marquesz's career has been

1278
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,559
knocked down many times. But he got dropped and he

1279
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,000
lost basically every single around my recollection, I'd have to

1280
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,519
go back and look at it. I believe I scored

1281
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:25,000
it a shutout, maybe eleven to one. I'm looking at

1282
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,320
the score here. One judge did have it a shutout.

1283
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,719
One judge had it eleven to one. One judge had

1284
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,239
a tend to. You know, when you look back on

1285
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,280
Floyd's career and you think about the dominating wins against

1286
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,440
the caliber fighters that he fought. The Marquez fight, I mean,

1287
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,360
the wait situation notwithstanding, got to go down as one

1288
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,920
of the best and biggest wins of his career. Remember,

1289
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,519
he was coming off Marquez. He had scored the spectacular

1290
00:59:48,599 --> 00:59:50,960
knockout of Juan Diaz in the Fight of the Year

1291
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,159
in two thousand and nine. That was a title the

1292
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:55,639
gave millennial title. He won some of the other belts

1293
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:59,480
at WBA and the WBO that was vacant at that time,

1294
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,280
and and Marquez was looking strong and then he lost

1295
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,159
the fight to Floyd. He went back down the light

1296
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:05,880
wait and he went on another great run where he

1297
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,960
beat Wan Diez in the rematch. He had the big

1298
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,000
win against Michael Cansidis. So if you'd take into account

1299
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,800
when it happened, this was a really good win for

1300
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,679
Floyd Mayweather. But I can vividly remember, like the the

1301
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,519
the controversy in the in the animal and that what's

1302
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,480
the word I'm looking for, Just the irritation by everybody

1303
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,480
that he didn't make the weight and it was so

1304
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:29,159
clearly obvious that he did it on purpose, just to

1305
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:32,480
pay the money and to give himself an unfair advantage,

1306
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:34,719
even though he had agreed to one forty four. But

1307
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:36,920
it doesn't detract from the performance on the night of

1308
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,239
the fight.

1309
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:39,559
Speaker 1: And you bring up a great point. It's not like

1310
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:44,000
he was overweight during it. He was within the welterweight limit.

1311
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,119
Speaker 2: And it wasn't it wasn't a championship. I mean, you know,

1312
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,159
Juan was the lightweight champ and Floyd didn't have the

1313
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:52,639
claim to any of the belts because he was out

1314
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:54,119
of the ring for almost two years, and it was

1315
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:56,760
you know, it didn't have any of the titles.

1316
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: All right, So there was Mayweather on that night, which

1317
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,840
again was fifteen years ago.

1318
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: I must I must interject, as you said, more so

1319
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,639
than the fight itself, probably the single most memorable thing

1320
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:09,960
about this entire fight, wasn't that stuff about the weight

1321
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,000
wasn't about the fight itself. Was really about the twenty

1322
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:15,599
four to seven and the revelation that Juanmanuel Marquez drank

1323
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,679
his own drank, drank his own urine in preparation for advice.

1324
01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:21,239
Told me that was the legendary scene of him, of

1325
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,280
him sitting down and then filming him drinking his own piss.

1326
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh. Can you imagine being the film crew and the

1327
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,159
producer watching him do that and going, we're gonna put

1328
01:01:32,199 --> 01:01:35,159
this in the show, and the prisoner's probably going, yeah,

1329
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:35,880
we're gonna.

1330
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:38,079
Speaker 2: Put this in the show. All of them twenty four

1331
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,519
seven series they did for all the big HBO pay

1332
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,079
per views in that era that started with the first

1333
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:46,760
ever HBO twenty four to seven series that was related

1334
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,440
to when Floyd fought Oscar. Probably the single most memorable

1335
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,239
moment of any of those shows is Juan Daniel Marquez

1336
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,880
sitting down in the locker room or after training and

1337
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,400
taking out a nice glass and fucking drinking his piss.

1338
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,519
Speaker 1: And now you've grossed us out for the final bit

1339
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:03,119
of nostalgia.

1340
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,719
Speaker 2: Before I would do it, he's the one that drank

1341
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,679
is pissed, not me? All right? Uh So?

1342
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: Thirty nine years ago, Saturday September twenty one, nineteen eighty five,

1343
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:19,000
a shocker of sorts in that Larry Holmes lost the

1344
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:25,599
LINEAL and IBF heavyweight championships to Michael Spinks, thus denying

1345
01:02:25,719 --> 01:02:29,800
him Dan Rayphield a forty ninth consecutive win to begin

1346
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,400
his career in matching Rocky Marciano to be forty nine

1347
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,360
and zero as heavyweight champion of the world. Spinks beat

1348
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,800
him in the forty ninth fight back in nineteen eighty

1349
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,320
five by decision. A fight I still remember watching an

1350
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,159
HBO fight back in the day because of all the

1351
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:51,239
build up. I again say, the kids can go YouTube

1352
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,559
it up again. The gen zers, the under thirty year

1353
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,440
olds at all think that boxing. You laugh when I

1354
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,039
say this began in two thousand and six. Go back

1355
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,880
and watch this. The magnitude of this was massive. The

1356
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:05,119
heavyweight champion of the world. We didn't know who Mike

1357
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:08,599
Tyson was yet in the eighties, we barely knew who

1358
01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:13,239
he was. The magnitude of this was enormous because boxing

1359
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,320
was so much more mainstream and the fact that he

1360
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,639
was about to match Marciano and Michael Spinks moved up

1361
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:22,800
from light heavyweight to beat him was a front page,

1362
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,960
not just front page of the sports section, front page

1363
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,440
of these old things kids that they used to have

1364
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,800
called newspapers. It was on the front page. It was

1365
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,599
It was the feature cover story in Sports Illustrated, the

1366
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:40,199
lead story on ESPN, the biggest of big dealsj.

1367
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,719
Speaker 2: Well back at five. Well, I date myself when I

1368
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:44,480
tell you that, as much as I have adjusted obviously

1369
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:48,039
to the use of the Internet, having now spent the

1370
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:51,480
bulk of my boxing writing career on the Internet as

1371
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,639
a writer, as a post of when I used to

1372
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,639
work for USA today, I actually still get two newspapers,

1373
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,280
hard actual physical page.

1374
01:03:57,519 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: You've mentioned that, Go ahead, elaborate again.

1375
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,559
Speaker 2: No, I get USA Today still as a habit, and

1376
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:04,199
my old my old stomping grounds. And I get the

1377
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,480
Washington Post, which is now my hometown paper. And but

1378
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:08,079
I do subscribe to the New York Times, and I

1379
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:10,440
read that online. For whatever reason, I like reading the

1380
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,280
Post in the paper and I and I read the

1381
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,679
New York Times online and I read USA Today, you

1382
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:15,559
know a little bit of both.

1383
01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:18,119
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep keep having fun. I'm gonna keep

1384
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:21,039
having fun with the gen zers, with the young audience.

1385
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:23,079
That here is is. He's talking about this thing that's

1386
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:25,719
printed out on paper and they roll it up and

1387
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,599
they throw it in your driveway at five throw away morning.

1388
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,239
It's called a newspaper. That's what it used to be

1389
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:31,800
a big deal.

1390
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Since I'm a kid, I always love newspapers. I mean now,

1391
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:37,000
one of my greatest joys in life was having my

1392
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,679
first ever article published.

1393
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,039
Speaker 1: The newspaper, the print, and now now it's the internet.

1394
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: But old habits diehard.

1395
01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:47,599
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is massive when this happened, Oh, huge

1396
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,159
deal in the sports world and in the boxing world

1397
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:52,239
when this happened. When Spainks beat him.

1398
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,159
Speaker 2: So Sphinx was a sizeable underdog going into this fight.

1399
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:57,800
Larry Holmes was a dominating champion. He had been the

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WBC champ and then he become the IBF champ. But

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he was the lineal and he had made a zillion

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defenses and like you mentioned, he was trying to match

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the It's not a record per se, but it was

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a hallowed plateau, if you will, of what Mark Marciano

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did to become forty nine to zero before he retired.

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And he got right there on the press of busines

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of forty eight. Oh and now he's fighting Michael Spink.

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And Michael Spinx was a bad boy, not a heavyweight,

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but Olympic gold medalist and was the devastating, dominating light

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heavyweight champion. And in fact, when he won this fight,

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a fight by the way, where one of the official

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judges back in the day was the deer Departed. Former

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unofficial HBO scorer was Harold Letterman was on this fight

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and where Spinx won a very close decision.

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Speaker 1: He was the actual judge.

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Speaker 2: He was the actual judge, not judge right right, but anyway,

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was a very close fight. A lot of people thought

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that Larry eked it out, but but Michael got the decision.

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But what the biggest thing about it was the historical

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element of this fight was he became the first ever

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remember boxing at this point, it's like over one hundred

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years old. He's the first ever heavyweight ragning champion to

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go in his next fight and move up to heavy

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and win the heavyweight title. Others had tried and failed.

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He did it. It was a big deal. You mentioned

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it was on HBO. They did it at a place

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in the outdoor stadium at a now long gone casino

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that they tore down in years ago, the Riviera Hotel

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and Casino, which did plenty of fights in the mid eighties,

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some of the bigger fights. Don King promote a lot

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of fights there. And the other revelation about this is

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and it became a thing later because other fighters kind

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of went by this blueprint. Roy Jones did it when

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he moved up to fight John Ruiz in the heavyweight division.

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They hired the fame nutritionist Mackie Sholstone yep, who was

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known for what he would do is he would bring

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the fighter up above the limit. I remember I knew

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Macki for a long time. He worked with Bernard Hopkins

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when Bernard moved up to fight Tarbus, so I got

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to know him at the time of the Roy Jones

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fight and the Hopkins fight. Interviewed Mackie several times and

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have called on him for his you know, his commentary

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at various times, not related to fights he was involve with.

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But he was the one that became pretty famous by

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working with Michael to get him in shape to become anyway,

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because it's a big difference to going from one seventy five.

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Now you're fighting a guy that's you know, in the

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in the like low two twenties or so, and and

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to do that. So, you know, they had this hole.

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This was like part of the you talk about front

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page news. There was tons of stuff about Mackie's you know,

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he's given you know, spinks, you know, four or five

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thousand calories a day, and how they're going to build

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them up right then bring him back down a little

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bit and you know how much carbohydrates he's happened and

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how much you know, water weight he has. I mean,

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it was very scientific the way they were going about

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all this, and uh, you know, Michael became uh, you know,

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looked apart, even though Larry was obviously bigger than him,

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and they had like a big sell out crowd, a

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big rating and hbo in Uh. In the end, Michael

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Spinks went he tactical, kind of boring fight to be quiet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the title of the fighting is it was

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a fifteen round fight still and he was fresh carrying

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the extra weight, and he was better than than Holmes

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down the stretch of the fight. I vividly remember that

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part because there was so much debate. Barry Tompkins, Larry

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Merchant were doing the fight. I'm trying to remember if

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Sugar Ray Leonard was on the call. I'll have to

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go back and rewatch. But there was great debate. Will

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Michael Spinks wear down now with the extra weight in

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the twelfth, the thirteenth, the fourteenth, the fifteenth round did

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not happen, my friend, and for the other.

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Speaker 2: And it got picked up the Ring Magazine and many

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others picked it as the upset of the year. And then,

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of course, the famous thing after the fight was when

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Larry Holmes, you know, in a moment that he probably

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later regretted. I think I've heard him say he regretted

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the comment where he basically said, you know, there was

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so much conversation about comparing him to Rocky Marciano where

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he uttered the very famous line that Rocky couldn't carry

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my jockstrap, and a lot of people, particularly in white America,

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did not take very kindly to that particular comment, and

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it kind of haunted Larry for a long time after that.

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But he can't take anything away from Michael Sphinx. He

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beat him that night, they had a rematch, he beat

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him again, and then obviously not that long after that,

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Spinks end up getting absolutely destroyed by Mike Tyson and

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Larry Holmes got destroyed by Mike Tyson as well. So, uh,

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this was what the Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you something. You and I have

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never been over this. We did not rehearse this, but

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I'm just curious what your opinion is. Probably want to

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get out of here.

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Speaker 2: We don't rehearse anything.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I didn't go over this with you.

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It's not on the rundown. I didn't tip you off

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to this. I I wonder, I have wondered before, and

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I wonder sitting here right now. If Larry Holmes wins

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that fight with Michael Spinks and is forty nine and oh,

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would you believe would you have thought? Do you believe

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he fights one more time against somebody, gets to fifty

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and oh, has his money, has nothing else to prove,

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and says that's it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think he would have soldiered on even

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at fifty and oh and kept fighting?

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Speaker 2: I have absolutely no doubt in my mind. If you

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ever met Larry Holmes, thought Larry's Holmes, heard him speak

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about it, know how much he liked to make money,

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There is absolutely zero, zero percent mind in my mind

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that he would have, you know, perhaps gone to fifty first.

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They wouldn't have been a rematch with Spinx.

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Speaker 1: Right, it would have been somebody wherever it was.

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Speaker 2: But no, No, I mean, look after he lost the

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second fight to Spinx, that's when he came back after

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the long layoff, and he fought Tyson. But had he

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beaten Spinx, I have no question he would have continued

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to fight. Because that fight was in nineteen eighty five,

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he would have theoretically gotten to fifteen oh. In I

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guess it would have probably been eighty six because the

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fight was Spinx. The second fight with Spinx was in

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early eighty six, so that would have taken that place.

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He'd have gotten to fifty oh. And then that was,

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like I said, early eighty six. If you look at

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rock at a Larry's career, he fought all the way

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to two thousand and two. Now, maybe he would have

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retired a little earlier, possibly, but there's no doubt one

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to continue to fight.

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Speaker 1: I trust your opinion, I trust your insight, but I

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just wonder it would have been a different circumstance.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would have been. He would have

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been you.

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Speaker 1: Can walk around, where you can walk away.

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Speaker 2: He would have maybe taken a softer touch to celebrate

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maybe or something like that. But he would have kept

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on fighting, no doubt about it. And even in his

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later days, you know, he may not have won, but

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he got other chances to fight. For the time he fought.

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Tyson got beat later on you know, in like ninety five,

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he got a chance to fight once again for the

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WBC title, put in a good performance but didn't quite

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,359
get the job done, lost a close decision to Oliver

1544
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,239
McCall and you know, and and continue to fight even

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01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,560
after that. So no doubt in my mind he would

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have continued fighting after the SPANX fight had he won

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that number forty nine and then fifty.

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Speaker 1: I love the banter back and forth. All right, all

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01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:32,239
good stuff. We get ready for everything that's going to

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happen Friday night in Glendale, Arizona, with the top rank

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01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:40,319
card in Jimi Mongia headlining and then the the Big

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01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:44,960
British card read season card that has the IBF Heavyweight Championship,

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,199
Anthony Joshua looking to regain a portion of the heavyweight

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01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:51,279
title and become a three time world champ here against

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01:11:51,319 --> 01:11:54,880
Daniel Dubois. Why don't we reconvene at one Eastern time

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,800
on the bet Us Boxing Show, young man, and we'll

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01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,760
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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,960
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Look forward to that, and then whatever happens with the

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action on the podcast feed, we'll come off the weekend

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with a Fight Freaks Unit recap podcast as well. Are

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we good? For now? Is it all said? Are we good?

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Speaker 2: We are good?

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