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Speaker 9: Yeah, my name is Justin I got the nickname, you know,
Speaker 9: Doc Brown. I'm the host of the Prometheus LANs podcast
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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, Nick.
Speaker 4: No, of course, thank you.
Speaker 5: And if people haven't heard her already, he's been on
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Speaker 5: he's been on plenty of other people shows as well
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Speaker 5: and uh yeah, thank you again.
Speaker 4: Doc.
Speaker 5: So elongated skulls I mean, I guess, I mean I
Speaker 5: think we've all probably thought about those looked into him
Speaker 5: and stuff, But what was it that brought you into
Speaker 5: like really looking into that, if you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, the my gateway drug into all the strangeness.
Speaker 10: What was giants?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right? Yeah.
Speaker 9: I grew up in church and never heard about these
Speaker 9: these creatures, and then once I was become an adult,
Speaker 9: I started finding people on YouTube and Apple podcasts and
Speaker 9: things like that talking about these guys, and then that
Speaker 9: kind of led me to La Marzouli, and then I
Speaker 9: started started seeing these elongated skulls and I was like, man,
Speaker 9: what the hell are these things?
Speaker 4: Oh? That is wild? The giants was like, you get
Speaker 4: with That's that's interesting. Nice.
Speaker 5: What was it like is there I mean, was there
Speaker 5: certain ones like like in the United States or were
Speaker 5: you like focusing on ones out of the country or both?
Speaker 4: Like what was it that you started looking at?
Speaker 5: I guess at first that was enough proof to you
Speaker 5: that you thought that these things were legit.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: My first encounter with them was actually through La Marzouli,
Speaker 9: and he actually got like basically the all star team
Speaker 9: of Christian fringe guys. We're talking about like doctor Aaron Judkins,
Speaker 9: doctor Judd Burton.
Speaker 10: I'm trying to think there's just so many of them.
Speaker 10: He just had this mortgage.
Speaker 9: Board of the fringy fringe guys and they went down
Speaker 9: there to Peru and they met with Brian Forrester and
Speaker 9: they were down there for several months and they just
Speaker 9: recorded the whole thing.
Speaker 10: And they were allowed to have.
Speaker 9: Access to the Parrakat skulls down there in Peru, so
Speaker 9: they actually got to hold these things, do castings of them,
Speaker 9: they brought to doctors and optometrists, they took DNA samples.
Speaker 10: Just all this stuff.
Speaker 9: They actually just did a really thorough job of investigating
Speaker 9: these skulls. And I just read about it, watched some
Speaker 9: of the documentaries, and then that kind of just stemmed out.
Speaker 9: And the Paraka skulls in Peru they get all the attention.
Speaker 9: But honestly, it wasn't until here recently that I actually
Speaker 9: started looking. Man, they're everywhere. There's not one country or
Speaker 9: continent that they have not found elongated skulls.
Speaker 10: Just a global phenomenon.
Speaker 4: Oh it's really like that. Yeah, huh yeah. So I'll
Speaker 4: be totally honest with you. I mean, oh, I mean you.
Speaker 5: Know, I'm roll all the time anyway, so I'm used
Speaker 5: to it. You know, I wasn't really up until plibly
Speaker 5: about maybe six or eight months ago, did I even
Speaker 5: contemplate these things.
Speaker 4: Like I always thought it was bullshit, be totally honest
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 5: And then I had actually a couple of people on that, like,
Speaker 5: you know, like their their academic career probably you know,
Speaker 5: would have been effected if to talk and bullshit. So
Speaker 5: like I was just like, you know, I guess this,
Speaker 5: And then I had Heather on in somebody else. I
Speaker 5: think it might have been U to Gregory Little that
Speaker 5: actually him, and between him and Heather, I was like, yo,
Speaker 5: I guess these things are fucking legit, Like and now
Speaker 5: you're saying like almost every country has them. I never
Speaker 5: knew that, Swear to god, that's fucking wild.
Speaker 9: I did not know Google starts earlier and just kind
Speaker 9: of looked up some like for example, you know, like
Speaker 9: I said, Peru they get all the attention, but there
Speaker 9: was a guy named Julia Taylor in nineteen twenty eight.
Speaker 9: He found over three hundred just in that year alone,
Speaker 9: and so Peru was just littered with them. But they
Speaker 9: also found them in Bolivia. Chile, Mexico, the United States,
Speaker 9: the Kinokan and Choctaw Indians had elongated skulls, the Caribbean, Russia, France, Germany,
Speaker 9: Central Asia, China, the Middle East, Africa, Egypt, Polynesia, Papua
Speaker 9: New Guinea, and there was one called the Natu And
Speaker 9: I may be pronouncing that wrong, but it's in the
Speaker 9: Oceania region. But it says that the head binding is
Speaker 9: still practiced today to resemble cultural deities.
Speaker 10: So I mean that's what most of them are.
Speaker 7: Yeah, most of them from my research says that it
Speaker 7: was the guys that had like the elong skulls and
Speaker 7: stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But the head binding is uh completely like that, Like
Speaker 6: you can tell which skulls are authentic and which skulls
Speaker 6: have been manipulated with head binding, because it's completely different.
Speaker 6: I you know what I'm saying. Like No, I was
Speaker 6: just going to say, like I think they were trying
Speaker 6: to emulate what they were seeing, and it's it's kind
Speaker 6: of obvious the ones that have been manipulated, But there
Speaker 6: are organic as Doc was saying, it's it's completely organic.
Speaker 6: Their skulls really were elongated and you can see it
Speaker 6: even in like Egyptian hieroglyphics that there were pharaohs who
Speaker 6: had these huge skulls and acontin his sister's slash wife
Speaker 6: or whatever, and their child had like these weird fucking
Speaker 6: prometheus fucking weird shaped skulls.
Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like you said, it's easy to tell which ones
Speaker 9: are from headbinding, because when you go to mainstream academia,
Speaker 9: that's what they try to do. They try to whitewash
Speaker 9: and just broad brush stroke these things and say, oh,
Speaker 9: it's just all from headbinding. And like you said, I
Speaker 9: mean there's taeiltale signs because they have like flat spots
Speaker 9: on their head where the boards were pressing against or
Speaker 9: if they used rope, they would have indentions where the
Speaker 9: ropes were. And uh, all the ones that they find
Speaker 9: that are proven from headbinding, Uh, there's certain things that
Speaker 9: just don't change. And for instance is all these people
Speaker 9: that have these elongated skulls from headbinding, they all have
Speaker 9: their sadrisutra line and they found some of these that
Speaker 9: they're absent.
Speaker 10: And uh, I brought some items for show and teil
Speaker 10: for you guys. I have a replica on one of
Speaker 10: the prockets.
Speaker 4: Real. I was like, yo, this motherfucker.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And some of the things that La talked about was,
Speaker 9: you know, like I was saying, if you look at this,
Speaker 9: there is no Sadresutra. And for those that's unfamiliar, this
Speaker 9: is basically like a peace sign on your head. You
Speaker 9: have this line that goes up the center and once
Speaker 9: it gets to the soft cap, it branches off into
Speaker 9: a y. And all the ones they find from headbinding
Speaker 9: still have this Sadresutra. But the ones that they find
Speaker 9: that are not from headbinding, they're like this one, the
Speaker 9: Saddre Sutra is missing. And like I said, all the
Speaker 9: ones they find from headbinding, this Sadre Sutra does not disappear.
Speaker 9: So that shows us that this is genetic. And then
Speaker 9: at the same time, if you look here at the
Speaker 9: front angle the eye orbits, they actually lay brought optometrists
Speaker 9: with him to study these things, and that's basically a
Speaker 9: fancy word for an eye doctor. And they measure these
Speaker 9: orbits and these are thirty percent larger than a normal
Speaker 9: human school and even the ones proven from headbinding, so
Speaker 9: he said, the optometry said they're thirty percent larger. So
Speaker 9: therefore the pupils you would have been thirty percent larger
Speaker 9: and the distance is even closer. He said, so they're
Speaker 9: built like an owl. He said, so, he said, it's
Speaker 9: my opinion. He said that these hybrid brace creatures had
Speaker 9: night vision, and when you get into all the lore
Speaker 9: and legends of giants, they were cave dwellers. And another
Speaker 9: example was the ones from headbinding. The brain case volume
Speaker 9: doesn't change, but some of these the brain case volumes
Speaker 9: increased by like fifteen to twenty percent. And another thing
Speaker 9: that's really really fascinating was right here is this is
Speaker 9: an anchor point where the spine comes in. They caught
Speaker 9: the fray foremen mag magnum or something like that. But
Speaker 9: see this is all the way at the back on
Speaker 9: a normal human skull. They're right here in the center.
Speaker 9: That way you can balance it better. And all the
Speaker 9: long gated skulls from headbitding that we found that anchor
Speaker 9: point does not change. They're all right there, so binding
Speaker 9: the head doesn't change.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 9: It's another genetic marker, and it was designed specifically to
Speaker 9: counterbalance this huge head because if it wasn't anchored where
Speaker 9: it's at the way we just pull down, they'd be
Speaker 9: looking at their feet all the time.
Speaker 6: That's incredible I've heard that some of them the teeth
Speaker 6: are a giveaway to like some of them had double
Speaker 6: rows of teeth or like large larger than normal teeth,
Speaker 6: stuff like that. Have you seen any of those, Yeah, I've.
Speaker 9: Seen some of the double row teeth also, even just
Speaker 9: like the density of their bones. They said that some
Speaker 9: of these there are just a lot thicker than a
Speaker 9: normal person. And one thing that I really found cool
Speaker 9: when I'll show you this in this book. This is
Speaker 9: elongated skulls in the Paths of Vera Kocha from Brian Forrester.
Speaker 9: And one of the things he talks about too, that
Speaker 9: was genetic with these guys.
Speaker 10: And I'll show you this picture.
Speaker 9: So you basically have a skull layout and it's got
Speaker 9: all these lines telling you know what is what on
Speaker 9: the skull. And the things that I want to point
Speaker 9: out is there's holes on your cheek bones here here.
Speaker 9: Then you have two at the bottom next to your
Speaker 9: mandible down here at the lower part. And what it
Speaker 9: talks about is in here the ones that they study
Speaker 9: that were different from the headbinding ones is that they
Speaker 9: had an extra set of holes. And forgive me on
Speaker 9: the pronunciations, because I'm a redneck and I can barely
Speaker 9: speak English, so you get these big fancy words.
Speaker 10: I'm going to struggle.
Speaker 9: But it talks about It says the normal human skull
Speaker 9: has three pairs of small holes in the front called
Speaker 9: the foreman and the zygo madico fasciale see I told
Speaker 9: you below, and to the outside of the eye sockets,
Speaker 9: and the supra orbital just below the eye sockets, and
Speaker 9: the mental foramen in the mandible lower jaw. Almost all,
Speaker 9: if not all, of the elongated skulls of Paracus area
Speaker 9: also have a fourth pair called the parential foreman, which
Speaker 9: is very uncommon in most human skulls.
Speaker 10: And basically this.
Speaker 9: Was at the back of the head, and so it's
Speaker 9: an extra set of holes. And what they've said when
Speaker 9: they studied this, it says, when this is present, it transmits.
Speaker 9: It transmits an emissary vein into the superior sagital sinus.
Speaker 9: The superior sitageal sinus is a large vein found in
Speaker 9: the human head. This vein travels over the top portion
Speaker 9: of the skull, beginning at the top of the skull
Speaker 9: and moving to the back part of the skull. So
Speaker 9: they believe that this perennial foreman is present in the
Speaker 9: elongated skulls to assist in the blood flow due to
Speaker 9: the norm or sorry, the non normal shape of the head,
Speaker 9: and would be an evolutionary development. So it's not a
Speaker 9: wild for these heads, that is whid So.
Speaker 6: I worked for a surgeon and she did a lot
Speaker 6: of face stuff, and I would like sit and look
Speaker 6: at X rays all the time, because X rays have
Speaker 6: come a long way. Those bitches are like three D
Speaker 6: now you can see everything. And I would ask her like,
Speaker 6: what are those holes that are in all the skulls?
Speaker 6: And she said, nerves and veins. Everybody has them. And
Speaker 6: so you're saying they have an extra pair on the back.
Speaker 6: That is absolutely proof to me that this is a
Speaker 6: biological not just like a freak of nature thing. All
Speaker 6: of them have.
Speaker 9: That mm hmm, all the ones that were not natural
Speaker 9: or the ones that were natural.
Speaker 6: The ones that weren't manipulated.
Speaker 10: Yes, so it approachates a genetic right, yeah.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, so that's like, well, what
Speaker 6: do you think? All right, here's the question of the hour.
Speaker 6: Then what do you think that they were?
Speaker 10: Well with me?
Speaker 9: You know when people point to the head binding you know,
Speaker 9: as you know imitating their gods or veneration type thing.
Speaker 10: You know. I think a lot of people forget to
Speaker 10: ask the why questions. Well, why if they are just
Speaker 10: copying or mimicking something, you know, why would they do that?
Speaker 10: So it had to be.
Speaker 9: Something really important, because you think they start this, I
Speaker 9: think they said they can't do it till the kids
Speaker 9: are at least a year or two old. That way,
Speaker 9: that soft cap, you know, closes all the way. But
Speaker 9: so imagine you've got a two year old kid and
Speaker 9: you're strapping boards to their head and rope and tying
Speaker 9: as tight as you can to force this skull to
Speaker 9: elongate and deform. This is extremely painful. You can imagine
Speaker 9: the headaches and the discomfort. I mean, this was not
Speaker 9: something that you just go get knocked out and wake
Speaker 9: up and you get plastic surgery it's fixed.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 9: This is something you had to do for years. It
Speaker 9: was years of pain. So it had to be extremely
Speaker 9: important to them. So I tell people I use this
Speaker 9: modern example. You know, Pobably what was it maybe ten
Speaker 9: years ago Morgan walland the Big Country Star broke out
Speaker 9: and what did he do? He cut his hair in
Speaker 9: the shape of the mullet he brought the mullet back. Well,
Speaker 9: next thing, you know, every kid, their brother and dad
Speaker 9: has a mullet now because they're venerating, they're emulating this
Speaker 9: predominant figure. So I think that's what's going on here.
Speaker 9: And when you go to like South America, Peru, where
Speaker 9: these parocke skulls are found, they have all these legends
Speaker 9: about Quasi Kettle and Vericocha and it says that they
Speaker 9: were pale skinned, bearded, red bearded, uh elongated skull people
Speaker 9: that just showed up on it said the boat of
Speaker 9: serpents without rafts or without rows. So these this god
Speaker 9: shows up and it says that he basically gives them
Speaker 9: the seven Sacred Sciences, and if you know, the equivalent
Speaker 9: to that is Genesis six Fallen Angels. In the book
Speaker 9: Enoch says that they come down, the angels came down
Speaker 9: brave with the daughters of men and gave them all
Speaker 9: this forbid knowledge. And that's what they'd done here with
Speaker 9: this Vera Coach and Quasi Kettle, that they show up
Speaker 9: and h the Vericocha and his lord legend. He has
Speaker 9: a group of like followers and they're called the Vera
Speaker 9: Coach on and what do they do They travel around? Uh,
Speaker 9: he civilizes the people of South America, teaches them how
Speaker 9: to do agriculture, make megalithics, architecture and structure and all
Speaker 9: these things. So it kind of mirrors to me that
Speaker 9: whole Genesis six narrative. And honestly, I'll show you in
Speaker 9: this book here too, because he talks about it. That
Speaker 9: Path of Averracocha. They have a list of all of
Speaker 9: the cities in the legend that Vericocha and his Verakochun
Speaker 9: went to and civilized and taught all these things. And
Speaker 9: all those cities are on a straight line path. Actually
Speaker 9: it's like a northwest path across the continent. And every
Speaker 9: single one of those cities that's listed, that's what they
Speaker 9: call the Path of Vericocia. But without fail, every single
Speaker 9: one of those cities has huge megalithic architecture structures and
Speaker 9: elongated schools out the wazoo. And when the South American
Speaker 9: or when the Spanish showed up, they documented in some
Speaker 9: of their journals that they noticed this fair skinned, red haired,
Speaker 9: elongated skull people walking amongst them, and they were obviously different.
Speaker 9: You know, South American people are ar skinned and they
Speaker 9: can't hardly grow a beard. So the Spanish was like,
Speaker 9: who are these people? And all the locals said, these
Speaker 9: are descendants of the very coachin. So I mean, my
Speaker 9: opinion is you will legend think these were falling angels.
Speaker 6: Well, so I believe that they actually were supernatural too.
Speaker 6: Not only did they have like a different bone structure
Speaker 6: and everything, but I do believe that they were mistaken
Speaker 6: to be God's because they had like a supernatural aspect
Speaker 6: to them. I don't know if subscribe to that, but
Speaker 6: I believe they were able to do something that made
Speaker 6: these people think, oh my God, these people need to
Speaker 6: be worshiped.
Speaker 9: Mm hmm, yeah, one d percent because I mean when
Speaker 9: you read that narrative and genus in the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 9: they said they traded their first estate, so they come
Speaker 9: down and took fleshly form, and if you know, we
Speaker 9: take that at face value, they showed up and they
Speaker 9: had divine knowledge. You know, they had a lot of
Speaker 9: scientific advancements and things.
Speaker 10: They were doing.
Speaker 9: All these things to these primitive people and to them,
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, these were magical. These were just
Speaker 9: amazing things. So they worshiped them as gods. And that's
Speaker 9: why a lot of people talk about the Spanish when
Speaker 9: they come and invaded South America. They just took over
Speaker 9: so easily because the legend of Varracocia and Quasi Kettle
Speaker 9: is that they left on the boats of serpents just
Speaker 9: like they came, but they said that they would return,
Speaker 9: and when they did, they would return at a time
Speaker 9: that they needed them, and they would do all these things.
Speaker 9: So when the Spanish showed up, they showed up on
Speaker 9: these large boats. They were pale skinned, bearded men, and
Speaker 9: they had on this silver armor that was just glistening
Speaker 9: in the sun. They thought that this was the return
Speaker 9: of Avracocha and his vera coach. So when they came,
Speaker 9: they worshiped them, brought them gold and silver and food
Speaker 9: and all this stuff. So the Spanish just kind of
Speaker 9: went along with it. They's like, hell, we can take
Speaker 9: over this whole country and get all the riches without
Speaker 9: even having to fight them.
Speaker 10: We'll just go along with it.
Speaker 4: Real quick.
Speaker 5: Just you know, we stopped for a second, Tim, would
Speaker 5: you like to introduce you so far? I'm so sorry
Speaker 5: about that too. I forgot to send out the link
Speaker 5: so real well.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah, Tim, Constantine's sixth Sensory podcast had to
Speaker 1: jump on. Talk to my boy, Doc Brown here and
Speaker 1: I'll let him continue. Happy to be here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've seen you come in. I was like, oh,
Speaker 9: we got another Tennessee boy, and here a couple of rednecks.
Speaker 4: Now all the trade talk. You're in Tennessee too, Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, shit where they were finding a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that Doc's talking about. Hmm, it's not in the
Speaker 1: history books.
Speaker 5: But how far away for you from Nashville? I mean,
Speaker 5: I know you are, how far away you talk?
Speaker 9: I'm at the very far eastern tip. I'm almost but
Speaker 9: I'm butted up right against North Carolina.
Speaker 10: How like an hour from Ashville?
Speaker 4: Dude, you're so close to me? What the fuck it?
Speaker 10: What to get together? Sometimes?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, no, for really yeah yeah. Even Tyrone is like
Speaker 4: right over here too. Holy shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm about like four hours away from Ashville. I
Speaker 5: think four and a half hours away.
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, I'm about one hour.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 6: I'm on the other side of the planet, So I
Speaker 6: guess I can't come to the meet up. I didn't
Speaker 6: know that they found elongated skulls in Tennessee though. That's interesting.
Speaker 6: I know there's like mounds and stuff, and like a
Speaker 6: lot of the Southern.
Speaker 1: I don't know about elongated skulls. I should have you know,
Speaker 1: I should have said that a little bit better. I
Speaker 1: was more talking about giants.
Speaker 6: No, just like full on skeletons. Yeah, they have elongated
Speaker 6: schools or are they just big motherfuckers with like regular skulls.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean I don't know, doc Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Fritz Zimmerman would have something to say about that.
Speaker 1: But the Giant records that I've looked at, I don't
Speaker 1: remember the skulls being mentioned. But the bones were big, right,
Speaker 1: like seven foot seven footers. And you've got the Tennessee
Speaker 1: little people too, So you've got like a whole Narnia
Speaker 1: situation going on where they were finding like real small
Speaker 1: and that's interesting too. It's like that's well documented too,
Speaker 1: like White County, Tennessee, Sparta, Tennessee. These farmers were finding
Speaker 1: all these little people. But you know counter that you
Speaker 1: also had giants too, So that's what I was more
Speaker 1: talking about, all kinds of weird.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I mentioned before you came on, but
Speaker 9: i'd found where was it?
Speaker 10: He scroll up.
Speaker 9: That the Chinnakin and the chicktaw Indians that they had
Speaker 9: found elongated skulls amongst those tribes of people. That was
Speaker 9: something I just recently found out. But I was going
Speaker 9: to show you these two. Doctor Aaron Judkins, he was
Speaker 9: one of the guys I mentioned earlier that went down
Speaker 9: to Peru and actually held these skulls and investigated them
Speaker 9: and done castings of them and stuff. And I found
Speaker 9: in LA's book that he give Aaron a section to
Speaker 9: give his notes and thoughts on the schools and what
Speaker 9: he thought about them and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 9: But in there he actually had hand drawn diagrams of
Speaker 9: these elongated schools, and he had calipers and all the
Speaker 9: measurement tools and measured everything.
Speaker 10: To the eye orbits.
Speaker 9: To the brain case volume, all this stuff. But he
Speaker 9: had hand drawn all those on some drafting paper and
Speaker 9: wrote down all the measurements. And I'm friends with Judkins,
Speaker 9: so I emailed him and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 9: I seen your drawings of the elongated skulls his book.
Speaker 9: Do you still happen to have those? And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 9: I still got them. And I was like, man, would
Speaker 9: you care to like scan them for me and send
Speaker 9: them to me I'd love to like decorate them and
Speaker 9: photoshop them up and stuff like that. So he ended
Speaker 9: up sending them to me, and uh, I just kind
Speaker 9: of put them on some like a background like look
Speaker 9: like old scroll or something. But uh, he sent me
Speaker 9: three different ones and it's got all the measurements and
Speaker 9: stuff on that. They're pretty cool. And Uh, I'm going
Speaker 9: to Spiracy Con. Uh it's the third week in August.
Speaker 9: It's in Cave City, uh, Kentucky. And uh, doctor Aaron
Speaker 9: Jenkins is actually going to that event too, So I
Speaker 9: asked him, I said, would you mind? I said if
Speaker 9: I printed these on card stock, you know, I said,
Speaker 9: and sold them at Conspiracy Con. I said, if you'll
Speaker 9: sign them for me, I said, we can split some
Speaker 9: of the sales on it.
Speaker 10: So he done that.
Speaker 9: So I'm actually bringing these to Spiracy Con for doctor
Speaker 9: and Jenkins to sign it to sail at the conference.
Speaker 9: So if anybody is in the Cave City, Kentucky area,
Speaker 9: come check out Spiracy Con.
Speaker 10: Man, it's going to be a real good time.
Speaker 9: But John Pounders from now you see TV's putting it
Speaker 9: on and he's just got an all star lineup of
Speaker 9: people that's going to be there.
Speaker 10: Should be a real fun weekend.
Speaker 1: He's been in the ky for a while too, right,
Speaker 1: Pounders has like he was talking about giants and watchers
Speaker 1: and all that. Back before a lot of people were Yeah.
Speaker 6: I didn't know Kentucky was so hip. I thought it
Speaker 6: was hey. And I'm not saying anything because I lived
Speaker 6: in Kentucky for like fifteen years. My family's from Kentucky.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I wish I was closer because I would go,
Speaker 6: that sounds like a great time.
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 9: It's the third weekend of this month. Oh damn in
Speaker 9: Cave City, Kentucky. I think it's like the twenty second
Speaker 9: I think. But another thing to us gonna show you guys,
Speaker 9: And I try to show references on all the stuff
Speaker 9: that I talk about because I'm not some genius.
Speaker 10: I just I read a lot and I take people's
Speaker 10: puzzle pieces and put them together. You know.
Speaker 9: So I had some stuff from Brian Forster's book that
Speaker 9: I had mentioned, and this one is Ala Marzouli's book,
Speaker 9: and I think he charges like sixty bucks for this book.
Speaker 10: But this thing's almost.
Speaker 9: As stick as a bible, and it's just jam packed
Speaker 9: full of information, full color photos on all the pages,
Speaker 9: and he's basically compiled all of his years of work
Speaker 9: on the giants and elongated skulls in this one book.
Speaker 10: So it's really fascinating. But one of the ones that with.
Speaker 9: These elongated skulls that is probably the most fascinating enigma
Speaker 9: of all is this skeleton that they deemed wiky. And
Speaker 9: I don't know if any of you guys have heard
Speaker 9: of that name, or if you're familiar with that skeleton
Speaker 9: or not, but it almost looks like a freaking alien.
Speaker 9: And they actually put a picture up of this thing
Speaker 9: beside of an alien like as a comparison. Oh Jesus,
Speaker 9: So it's just got all the features of this other guy.
Speaker 9: It's got the large orbits and everything else. But what's
Speaker 9: really crazy about it is this thing in total height
Speaker 9: is now, this was a full skeleton, guys. This just
Speaker 9: wasn't the head, but its total height was nineteen point
Speaker 9: six eight inches. And here's the actual picture of this mummy.
Speaker 9: So if you notice the soft cap is still open, right,
Speaker 9: oh yeah, let me And it's you know, nineteen and
Speaker 9: a half inches long. But look at the teeth. It's
Speaker 9: got molars. And this was proven to be a small
Speaker 9: child because even the soft cap is open.
Speaker 6: So this is this is a baby along end.
Speaker 10: Yes, baby, Look the baby has molars, bro as freaking molars.
Speaker 6: That means that baby was snacking on some hot ass
Speaker 6: at some point, like the delongated skull. Motherfuckers ate meat
Speaker 6: from birth.
Speaker 10: That's a pretty crazy man.
Speaker 9: In one of the doctor's notes, he said he said
Speaker 9: it is a strange being of fifty centimeters tall, deformed head.
Speaker 9: The front and nail is still open, however, has molars,
Speaker 9: the orbits of the eyes are very large and have
Speaker 9: a lower jaw with two bumps, and it says this
Speaker 9: is not a dwarf, that their bones are thin and small.
Speaker 6: Can I just ask you something really quick? Why do
Speaker 6: you think they're always finding the skulls and not the
Speaker 6: rest of the body.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, that is a good question, Like why.
Speaker 6: Is it a bunch of heads everywhere and nobodies to
Speaker 6: be found?
Speaker 10: Well, this and the white it's the full body.
Speaker 6: But it's just that's like a rare That's that's a
Speaker 6: really rare find, you know what I mean, Because most
Speaker 6: of the time when they dig these bitches up, it's
Speaker 6: just as skulls. And it makes you wonder, like did
Speaker 6: they all get decapitated in some type of like siege
Speaker 6: on the giants or you know what I mean, like
Speaker 6: where's the body?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, see a lot of them theorized that they
Speaker 9: that this was kind of like a skull cult type
Speaker 9: veneration thing, that they would take these skulls of the
Speaker 9: dead ancestors and put them, you know, in temples around
Speaker 9: in these carved out rock faces and kind of venerate them.
Speaker 10: I was talking with Derek.
Speaker 9: Olsen and he said down there that he talked to
Speaker 9: some of the locals and that they had legends and
Speaker 9: things that they're kings and they had these elongated skulls.
Speaker 9: They would take their skulls and placed them cerem ceremonially
Speaker 9: in some of these rock faces that are cut out
Speaker 9: in squares on certain dates and things. And they said
Speaker 9: that when the moon on a certain day shined on
Speaker 9: these skulls, they believed that they were venerating and resurrecting
Speaker 9: the dead giant kings.
Speaker 10: And then also you.
Speaker 6: Have the Cicaras.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and the Ciicaras I think that's what their names are,
Speaker 9: but it's basically the grave robbers of South America. That's
Speaker 9: how ninety percent of these skulls are found. The grave
Speaker 9: robbers go in and illegally dig out these graves, and
Speaker 9: where South America is such a hot, dry climate climate,
Speaker 9: it actually preserves the bones really well, and so they
Speaker 9: take these and that the skulls is what everybody's fascinated with.
Speaker 9: So if they dig up this body, they just snap
Speaker 9: the head off and take it to a black market
Speaker 9: to sell because they know that's what everybody's interested in,
Speaker 9: is these elongated skulls.
Speaker 1: Doci said something about and venerating their ancestors, and I
Speaker 1: think that there's something to that because I've been looking
Speaker 1: into some of the old Canaanite tribes and some of
Speaker 1: the Canaanite temples and some of the things you find
Speaker 1: over there in the Middle East to do with this.
Speaker 1: Essentially it's a cult, and this cult was say, seemed
Speaker 1: to be interested in just that venerating their ancestors to
Speaker 1: a point where, I mean, it kind of reminded me
Speaker 1: of Star Wars, where you have the Jedis that die
Speaker 1: and they come back as like the spirits that help
Speaker 1: the living Jedi. It seems like some of these Canaanites
Speaker 1: that was part of their religion was literally talking to
Speaker 1: I don't know if they really were or not, but
Speaker 1: they seemed to believe that they were talking to their
Speaker 1: ancestors who were like giants as well, giant priest kings.
Speaker 10: Yep.
Speaker 9: And another one too is like go Backley Tape. Doctor
Speaker 9: Aaron Jenkins talking about him once again. He studied that
Speaker 9: place and wrote a book about it, and he was
Speaker 9: even talking about That's not like in the mainstream news,
Speaker 9: but if you search it up you can find it
Speaker 9: that the people that built go Beckley Tape were into
Speaker 9: skull cult veneration.
Speaker 10: That they are at the site.
Speaker 9: They had dug up skull caps and they had drilled holes,
Speaker 9: fine holes through them to like string them up and
Speaker 9: hang them up inside of those stone circles and stuff.
Speaker 9: So it was another type of skull cult veneration.
Speaker 6: They all have structures honoring serious too, so have you
Speaker 6: did have? I mean, however you guys feel about him
Speaker 6: as the Nassau or not. But Graham Hancock has talked
Speaker 6: a lot about these places, Go Beckley Tape giants on Malta,
Speaker 6: like anywhere there's megalithic structures, there's temples, and the structures
Speaker 6: aligned with serious legends about giants, legends about people coming
Speaker 6: up out of nowhere, teaching them animal husbandry, architecture, everything.
Speaker 6: Some of them have elongated skulls. Some of them are
Speaker 6: just giants. But it's literally in every single ancient culture,
Speaker 6: serious giants, gods coming up from out of nowhere and
Speaker 6: teaching them how to do shit. And it just is
Speaker 6: interesting to me because until you find the skulls, they're
Speaker 6: just stories. But then after you find the skulls and
Speaker 6: the skeletons, it's like, are they just stories though, because
Speaker 6: now we got bones?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Is you got stories?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 9: Like I said, I listed a bunch of those countries
Speaker 9: and continents, you find those elongated skulls everywhere. Every culture
Speaker 9: has stories of giants, and no matter where you go,
Speaker 9: there's just too many stories that rhyme Uh. I mentioned
Speaker 9: South America, they talk about Viracocha and quasi kettle uh.
Speaker 9: In North American tribes, Indians talk about the star people
Speaker 9: came down, stole the women and bred with the women. Uh,
Speaker 9: gave them all this knowledge and technology.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: Then they also have stories of the red haired, six
Speaker 9: fingered giants that they battled with and tried to push
Speaker 9: them out of their lands. You go across the ocean.
Speaker 9: You have the same thing the Genesis six narrative and
Speaker 9: the giants over there. Uh, Like you mentioned earlier, Julia,
Speaker 9: all the depictions of Egyptian kings and queens and princes
Speaker 9: with these elongated skulls. And there's another similar story that
Speaker 9: a lot of people don't realize, but it's and Graham
Speaker 9: Hancock talked about it. I can't remember the name of
Speaker 9: that temple now, but some temple they found. And there
Speaker 9: was the story of the dow WoT and the first time,
Speaker 9: and there was a story in there about Osiris and
Speaker 9: that he basically got tired of the kingship, stepped down
Speaker 9: and loaded on a boat with a bunch of his
Speaker 9: servants and went out to civilize the world, to teach
Speaker 9: them how to grow crops and do all these things.
Speaker 9: So there's another story, just like the Vera Kochin and
Speaker 9: so many others, and even the same thing with the
Speaker 9: what is it the Samerian King's list When you go
Speaker 9: through the King's list. I can't remember the guy's name now,
Speaker 9: but there's he's like the third or fourth one.
Speaker 10: He was one of the god kings.
Speaker 9: Same thing you messed down, wouldn't Gilgamesh it was somebody
Speaker 9: before him, but he had stepped down from the kingship.
Speaker 9: He didn't die. He stepped down and handed it over
Speaker 9: to his son because he was going to civilize the world.
Speaker 8: Which one is Is it annual inky or in them?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 10: That wouldn't a god. He was just a king that
Speaker 10: was on this samerianking. I want to say it's is
Speaker 10: Key and Gasher. I think there's.
Speaker 9: And he stepped down and I think he handed it
Speaker 9: off to in mark R, and I think that is
Speaker 9: who a lot of people align with Nimrod is in
Speaker 9: mark R because in the legends in Marker was considered
Speaker 9: the great builder, and it said that he built this tower.
Speaker 9: There's actually letters that they found corresponding tablets between in
Speaker 9: mark Ar and Lord a Rata, and so it was
Speaker 9: tying this Lord of Rata with the mountains of air Rat.
Speaker 9: And in these letters, he's basically writing on these tablets
Speaker 9: as sending it all the way up there to the
Speaker 9: air Rat mountains to this king and he's asking for
Speaker 9: his help in building this grand tower. And he says, basically,
Speaker 9: I know you're this grand architect and you have all
Speaker 9: these nice seedars up here. I'm trying to build this
Speaker 9: magnific tower to a Nanah and hopes that she will
Speaker 9: embrace me there and asking for this Lord of Rata's help,
Speaker 9: and this Lord of Ratta sends a letter back. It
Speaker 9: was like, you know, that's great, Well, what uses that
Speaker 9: to me? So he's basically denying to help him, and
Speaker 9: that they have this war and everything. So a lot
Speaker 9: of people theorize that this inn mark Are was Nimrod
Speaker 9: and the Lord of Rata was either Noah or want
Speaker 9: of Noah's descendants because he still had the pre flood
Speaker 9: knowledge and was a great builder because he just they
Speaker 9: built the arc.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think in Nana's role
Speaker 1: was there?
Speaker 9: It was just one of those she was the queen
Speaker 9: of Heaven and it was when you have those stories
Speaker 9: she's tied in so closely with with Gilgamesh and Inky
Speaker 9: do in those stories, you know what was it the
Speaker 9: Epic of Gilgamesh. She becomes so infatuated with Gilgamesh she
Speaker 9: tries to take him as a husband and he rejects her,
Speaker 9: and he kind of throws it in her face. He's like,
Speaker 9: every man you love winds up dead or you betray him.
Speaker 9: So now I don't want no part of that or
Speaker 9: miss it's offended. And that's when she goes and talks
Speaker 9: to her father in lyons, like, you know, he's just
Speaker 9: insulted me, and now he's rejected me. I want you
Speaker 9: to send a bull of heaven and kill them all,
Speaker 9: And so him and Ikey do tag team and kill
Speaker 9: this bull of heaven. And what's funny is if she
Speaker 9: was embarrassed before the way the story goes, she come
Speaker 9: out even worse because iky Doue takes the bloody thigh
Speaker 9: the bull and smacks her in the face with it.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, texts, you know, it's so funny, sab bitch,
Speaker 7: and I'd be like even like the docks, like ducks.
Speaker 1: On point with this whole anunt of thing, and like
Speaker 1: she even wanted him. One of the texts I read
Speaker 1: talked about how an honor Ishtar wanted Gilgamesh to go
Speaker 1: up into the sky with her, and he was like,
Speaker 1: he declined because he's like the men who go up
Speaker 1: in the sky with you never return. And I just
Speaker 1: think that that's so interesting when you see the these
Speaker 1: kings like having some sort of veneration or relationship with
Speaker 1: this entity and Anna Ishtar Aphrodity whatever whatever name she
Speaker 1: goes by. She goes by different names, you know. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to rehash something that I just talked
Speaker 1: about on a podcast elsewhere, but I did just cover
Speaker 1: a story where there's some of Nebu Kenezra's old writings
Speaker 1: where he's talking about his love for Ishtar and uh,
Speaker 1: how his ischar would come to his wife in a
Speaker 1: dream and give them messages like messages for the kingdom
Speaker 1: and and beyond that, even like he was trying to
Speaker 1: work with her in a way to where he would
Speaker 1: get h he would be he would deify like he
Speaker 1: wouldn't he didn't want to die like a mortal. He
Speaker 1: wanted to deify. And Nimrod comes to mind there, right,
Speaker 1: is that the right one?
Speaker 3: Doc?
Speaker 1: The uh became a gaberin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, in the Book of Genesis says that Nimrod
Speaker 9: becomes a gibble reem Idea and with Gilgamesh, and that's
Speaker 9: the whole thing. Is like when Annana was so impressed
Speaker 9: they just killed Humbaba, that this monster of the forests
Speaker 9: of what was it next to Mount Hermon and they
Speaker 9: called it that mountain was the home of the Annaki.
Speaker 10: And according to the Bible.
Speaker 9: You know where the angels, the fallen Angels came down
Speaker 9: was on Mount Hermon, and that Gilgamesh story they named
Speaker 9: that is the dwelling place of the Anonaki. And then
Speaker 9: that's when she becomes so infatuated with him because they're
Speaker 9: these great heroes and she wanted this manly man to
Speaker 9: be hers. And after he rejects her, that's when they
Speaker 9: take off on that other adventure. And like you had mentioned,
Speaker 9: he feared his mortality. He didn't want to die. So
Speaker 9: during that battle, she like curses Inky Do, his best
Speaker 9: friend for slapping her in the face with that bullsty
Speaker 9: and he ends up dying. But he comes back and
Speaker 9: he tells Gilgamesh, you know this place that I'm going to.
Speaker 9: You don't want to be here, brother, do everything you
Speaker 9: can to not be here. So then he takes off
Speaker 9: on this other adventure to try to find it's basically Noah,
Speaker 9: but I can't remember their version what they called him now,
Speaker 9: But he goes on this journey and goes.
Speaker 8: Into something like that starts with yeah, yeah, I can never.
Speaker 9: See you're right and ultra hass it's another one. But
Speaker 9: they go find him and he's like, I'm seeking eternal life.
Speaker 9: I want to be like you, And basically he just
Speaker 9: tells him, you've come all this way for nothing. You
Speaker 9: can't have eternal life, and he forces him to go
Speaker 9: to sleep, and then basically Noah's wife pleads with him,
Speaker 9: it's like, he come all this way, You're just going
Speaker 9: to send him away without helping him, and kind of
Speaker 9: guilt trips him. So once Gilgamesh wakes up, he tells
Speaker 9: him there is one way. There's this certain flower that
Speaker 9: rows under the sea at this certain place, and if
Speaker 9: you can find this flower and ingest it, you will
Speaker 9: have not eternal life, but long life, or really really
Speaker 9: long life. So he ties this boulder to his leg
Speaker 9: and throws himself in this sea and go searching for
Speaker 9: this mystical flower, and he finds it, but then he
Speaker 9: comes back to the surface and before he can even
Speaker 9: eat it, this great serpent sneaks up and eats the
Speaker 9: flower and steals it from him. And so then he's
Speaker 9: all in dismay that he lost his shot at long life.
Speaker 9: But you have that serpent imagery again, you know, coming
Speaker 9: in the sneaky serpent stealing eternal life from Gilgamesh.
Speaker 6: Do you think this these are like bedtime stories or
Speaker 6: you think this shit's real.
Speaker 9: I think it's all rooted in some truth. There's some
Speaker 9: kind of esoteric truth that that's being passed through these entertained,
Speaker 9: unforgettable stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Actually yeah, I think it right, that esoteric stories. Yeah,
Speaker 5: something in there and there's some truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can figure it out for sure, I.
Speaker 10: Think yeah, I agree.
Speaker 9: And and that's another thing too, is like when you
Speaker 9: go to like the Bible, and everybody wants to talk about,
Speaker 9: you know, all these Sumerian stories and Babylonian stories that
Speaker 9: they predate the Bible, so therefore they sound so similar
Speaker 9: because they just you know, basically stole their story, you know,
Speaker 9: and rewrote it in their own version. And I'm guilty.
Speaker 9: Everybody has their you know, preconceived notions and and faith
Speaker 9: based you know, where I'm a Christian. I just tell people,
Speaker 9: you know, nothing of the first is the best. If
Speaker 9: that's the case, we'd all be driving around in four
Speaker 9: model t's. So just because it's the first, don't make
Speaker 9: it the best. And as far as the biblical narratives,
Speaker 9: forward found on road dead. But uh so I tell people, like,
Speaker 9: if you go with the Biblical narrative, what does it say.
Speaker 9: It says that the angels left their first estate and
Speaker 9: traded their first estate and came down to earth and
Speaker 9: was kicked out of heaven. So, according to the biblical narrative,
Speaker 9: the fallen angels was here first.
Speaker 10: So is it out of the.
Speaker 9: Question that you would get their version their story first?
Speaker 9: And of course it's going to be distorted if it's
Speaker 9: coming from them, But that's just my standpoint on it.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I agree with you obviously, you know
Speaker 6: how I feel about that kind of stuff. But just
Speaker 6: when you hear these stories that are repeated throughout all
Speaker 6: these different cultures, you start to wondering, like, what part
Speaker 6: of this actually happened? What part of this is like
Speaker 6: a bedtime story, a cautionary tale or something like that,
Speaker 6: And how do you interweave like physical evidence with the
Speaker 6: mythology of a place, You know what I mean? Because
Speaker 6: it's like, if you look at the hieroglyphics and the
Speaker 6: story except come out of Egypt, it's dog headed beings
Speaker 6: and bird headed beings and stuff like that. I tend
Speaker 6: to kind of think that shit was legit, and like
Speaker 6: they did have some fucked up beings walking around, But
Speaker 6: it's like what part of it was dramatized and like
Speaker 6: what part of it was part of the mystery schools
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. What part of it is real?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Man armies got the dog man armies like.
Speaker 6: From The Mummy part two. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Ubis, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 9: And what was that guy's name, Beanie? You know a
Speaker 9: lot of people, Beanie, they have the hundred necklaces of
Speaker 9: every single god and religion and of them.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, dude, I love that movie so much.
Speaker 6: Actually have been fascinated with this kind of stuff since
Speaker 6: I was a kid, and I would watch The Mummy
Speaker 6: on repeat and be like, I feel like this is
Speaker 6: the real shit, Like there's actual curses and like stuff
Speaker 6: from in Egypt. That's you know, they talk about it like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's it's like a story. It's supposed to symbolize this,
Speaker 6: and it's like, no, I think they had stargates. I
Speaker 6: think they had advanced technology. I think that they had
Speaker 6: electricity in some form, So its right, Well, I mean
Speaker 6: it makes you wonder what part of like the Atlantis
Speaker 6: lore fits into all of this and Israel that these
Speaker 6: were just saddle cities with giants and elong gated skull
Speaker 6: beings that were breakoffs from one civilization like the mothership,
Speaker 6: like was it Atlantean and then they all just kind
Speaker 6: of like did their own shit and then there was
Speaker 6: like a catastrophe that wiped it out.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I always thought that Atlantis was like an allegory
Speaker 9: for basically the great reset the flood story, and that's
Speaker 9: one of those universal things. You know, you go to India,
Speaker 9: it says that was his name Kushna I think there,
Speaker 9: or maybe I can't remember. It's the blue skin God.
Speaker 9: But he shows up as a fish and tell us
Speaker 9: this it might be. But he shows up as this
Speaker 9: you know, fish to this righteous man, and he caused
Speaker 9: his name Minu, which you know stands for or means
Speaker 9: man first man, and warns him of this great catastrophe
Speaker 9: and the world's going to be destroyed with the flood,
Speaker 9: to build this boat. And they build this boat and
Speaker 9: he basically ties a lasso around the fish and he
Speaker 9: drags him to safety and places him on top of
Speaker 9: a mountain. And you have the same story with Noah.
Speaker 9: You have the same story, like we just talked about
Speaker 9: the with the the Babylonian and Samaran.
Speaker 10: The ultra Hosses.
Speaker 9: You go to the Native Americans in North America, they
Speaker 9: talk about a great flood coming and the gods preserving
Speaker 9: a remnant go to South America.
Speaker 10: It says Varicocha in his first creation.
Speaker 9: That he created giants, and that the giants devoured the
Speaker 9: land and the inhabitants of the land that they were wicked.
Speaker 10: So what does he do.
Speaker 9: He brings a flood to destroy the earth, and the
Speaker 9: first thing, the remnant that survived. The giants worked with
Speaker 9: the people and they build this great tower in the
Speaker 9: air to evade a future potential flooding.
Speaker 10: So I mean the Tower of Bible.
Speaker 9: So you just have all these stories, and like you
Speaker 9: had mentioned, Julie, I'm the type of person I'm not
Speaker 9: a coincidence theorist.
Speaker 10: I love comparative mythology.
Speaker 9: I like to look at all these stories and if
Speaker 9: we have all these same stories around the world, there
Speaker 9: has to be something to it. And so I just
Speaker 9: try to look for the common themes. And a lot
Speaker 9: of times we see caveats added or names change. Those
Speaker 9: are just you know, you can a that to their
Speaker 9: cultural spin. But the common themes where they're all the same.
Speaker 9: I think those are rooted in.
Speaker 6: Truth, and lucky for us, there's physical evidence of a
Speaker 6: lot of this physical evidence water erosion on the Sphinx
Speaker 6: in Egypt, physical evidence that the Grand Canyon was hollowed
Speaker 6: out by water, and that the Native Americans hid in
Speaker 6: the caves and they talked about there were people that right,
Speaker 6: So this is what I'm saying, Like, you can't say
Speaker 6: they're all bedtime stories, because there's an aspect that that
Speaker 6: can be spiritual, but there's an aspect that has to
Speaker 6: be literal because there is physical evidence. And then you
Speaker 6: start mixing the skeletons and giant skeletons and elongated skulls
Speaker 6: and stuff with the water erosion on the Sphinx and
Speaker 6: with the Grand Canyon and the seashells on Everest, and
Speaker 6: then you're like, all right, what part of these stories
Speaker 6: is literal?
Speaker 1: We had down shells in the East Tennessee too, just
Speaker 1: to sprinkle in the Tennessee Mountains, they're finding old, ancient
Speaker 1: seashells and just sea stuff in general. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: an ocean here at one point. And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: leaning with the Hawk on this one. It's like you
Speaker 1: get one or two flood myths, my personal opinion is like,
Speaker 1: maybe that's a coincidence. But once you get forty flood myths,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that there was a day loge
Speaker 1: of some sort, some sort of a catastrophe with lots
Speaker 1: of water.
Speaker 7: That's interesting because I actually talk about that a lot
Speaker 7: when I explained it like this. The reason why we
Speaker 7: have so many flat stories is because every civilization started
Speaker 7: by a body of water, and eventually during that timeframe,
Speaker 7: whether it's our lifetime, my children's lifetime, my grandkids lifetime,
Speaker 7: is going to be a major flood that pushes somebody
Speaker 7: away from that land and then they have to redo
Speaker 7: everything from the So I feel like most of these
Speaker 7: flood stories, yeah, they're very similar because in most cases,
Speaker 7: you know, the ancient people, they have boats like we
Speaker 7: have cars today. Their transportation from one place to another
Speaker 7: or getting food in a mass production way was by
Speaker 7: using boats. So I look at it as you know,
Speaker 7: since every civilization started by a body of water, and
Speaker 7: we need body of water to survive, there's always going
Speaker 7: to be some type of flood story. And now that
Speaker 7: because where mostly certain religions like Christianity Muslims and so
Speaker 7: on and so forth, those big Abrahamic face. They're all
Speaker 7: combining that one flu story. Like he was talking about
Speaker 7: the Sumerians. You know, the Samarians have their flood story,
Speaker 7: the Akkadians have their flood story, the Syrians hit tights
Speaker 7: and so on and so forth, and then you even
Speaker 7: have the Meso Americans.
Speaker 10: Yeah, now that's one of those things.
Speaker 9: It's like a lot of people want to talk about isolationism.
Speaker 9: You know, all these ancient people, they all just stayed
Speaker 9: in their little square piece of pasture and didn't trade
Speaker 9: or communicate with all these other countries. I think we
Speaker 9: have so much evidence that the ancients were diffusionists. They
Speaker 9: were sailing the seas, they were going to North America,
Speaker 9: mining this copper, coming back and bringing it back to
Speaker 9: the other parts of the world. I think the Venetians
Speaker 9: were basically fueling the Bronze Age. And if you go
Speaker 9: to Michigan up there, I can't remember that name that
Speaker 9: it's right on the border of Michigan and Canada, but
Speaker 9: they find these huge copper mines and they've estimated it's
Speaker 9: like hundreds of thousands of pounds of copper that is
Speaker 9: missing and that Michigan copper is the purest copper in
Speaker 9: the world. It tests it like ninety eight point eight
Speaker 9: percent purity. So when they find copper that tests that high,
Speaker 9: they know it comes from that Lake Michigan area because
Speaker 9: it's the purest in the world. It's the only one
Speaker 9: that tests that high. But they're finding copper that tests
Speaker 9: that pure in Europe, in South Asia and Africa, the
Speaker 9: Middle East, Peru, that they're finding it everywhere, And I
Speaker 9: believe it's because these ancient Phoenicians, these giants, when the
Speaker 9: waterways were higher, they could sail straight across because if
Speaker 9: you follow the currents and the tides, you can take
Speaker 9: a boat with no sails, no paddles, and just drift.
Speaker 9: And there's a what's his name, a Scandinavian doctor. I
Speaker 9: can't remember his name now. I think it's Thore or something,
Speaker 9: but he actually tested this. He got on a raft
Speaker 9: and the currents naturally took him to North America. So
Speaker 9: if you had these Phodicians that were known seafaring people
Speaker 9: and the water levels were higher, they could go towards
Speaker 9: like the Massachusetts area. And they say that this was
Speaker 9: all a waterway that led straight into Lake Michigan and
Speaker 9: all these lakes, and that's where they were mining all
Speaker 9: this copper. And this land was very fertile and fruitful
Speaker 9: and had all kinds of natural resources. So from there,
Speaker 9: that's why you get all the mound structures and things
Speaker 9: down through the Ohioo Valley and you find all these
Speaker 9: giants in the Ohio River Valley because these Phoenetians started
Speaker 9: setting up shop and just started going down uh the
Speaker 9: Ohio River Valley down through there.
Speaker 1: It's Aisle Royal in the Great States. I was looking
Speaker 1: up doc I was trying to see how many tons
Speaker 1: of copper are missing. That's a number that that kind
Speaker 1: of sways. But one of the numbers that came up
Speaker 1: here is an estimated five hundred thousand tons of copper
Speaker 1: is missing.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I said pounds, it's tons, it's tons. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And they even find a pictograph there on that island,
Speaker 9: on this huge stone, it's a Phoenician ship carved into
Speaker 9: the rock and it's with it. It's unmistakable, so they
Speaker 9: even put their their stamp on it.
Speaker 1: You've got the Canaanite shipwrecked to anybody can look that up.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a more recent fine if you just
Speaker 1: put in Canaanite shipwreck, it'll come up. It was three
Speaker 1: three hundred years old.
Speaker 10: That's wild.
Speaker 1: And I'm connecting that with the Phoenicians, you know, because
Speaker 1: the Canaites and Phoenicians were basically the same group.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, just a different name for them.
Speaker 9: But not to throw us off from this, but I
Speaker 9: just wanted to show you, guys this, This is like
Speaker 9: the final thing I was want to talk about with
Speaker 9: those elongated skulls. Because I've talked about all the different
Speaker 9: variants and sizes and.
Speaker 10: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 9: But this right here is if any of the stuff
Speaker 9: I talked about today had you, you know, saying, I'm
Speaker 9: not sure if it's genetic or not, this should be
Speaker 9: the final nail on the coffin for you. In eighteen
Speaker 9: forty two, in a cave, they found an elongated skull
Speaker 9: or skeleton, rather full skeleton, and it was mummified. And
Speaker 9: when they started investigating and taking it apart and looking inside,
Speaker 9: and it was a female inside this female's it was
Speaker 9: elongated skull, baby steal in the womb, unborn. So did
Speaker 9: they do some surgery and cut it out and elongate
Speaker 9: the skull and then put it back in the womb.
Speaker 6: This is what I'm talking about with the Prometheus stuff.
Speaker 11: I wondering in an alien movie. Sorry, no, yeah, Prometheus.
Speaker 11: You talking about like the Oh my god, yeah, the
Speaker 11: alien movie Prometheus.
Speaker 4: Is that what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the alien movie Prometheus.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But this was in eighteen forty two, and it's actually
Speaker 9: got drawings and stuff. But I read like some little
Speaker 9: excerpts here it was, and this was in a journal
Speaker 9: that they had found from some of these explorers. And
Speaker 9: this was so predominant that even there was a papalistic
Speaker 9: bull in the sixteenth century by the Pope forbidding the
Speaker 9: elongation of skulls, because they were still doing it back
Speaker 9: in the sixteenth century. But it says here it says
Speaker 9: as it was only a few years since two mummies
Speaker 9: of children were carried to England, which, according to the
Speaker 9: very exact description of doctor Bellamy, belonged to the tribe
Speaker 9: of a Jamayr's if I'm saying that correctly. But it
Speaker 9: says the two crania, both of the children were scarce
Speaker 9: a year old, and this is while they found in
Speaker 9: this cave, said in all aspects the same form as
Speaker 9: those of the adults. We ourselves have observed the same
Speaker 9: fact in many mummies of children of tender age, who,
Speaker 9: although they had cloths about them, were yet without any
Speaker 9: vestige or appearance of pressure on the cranium. More still,
Speaker 9: the same formation of head presents itself in children yet unborn.
Speaker 9: And the truth we have had convincing roof in the
Speaker 9: sight of a fetus enclosed in a womb of a
Speaker 9: mummy of a pregnant woman, which we found in a
Speaker 9: cave in Hiyake, two leagues from Tamar, and which is
Speaker 9: at this moment in our collection. Professor Dyote Pont from
Speaker 9: the Great Celebrity in the Department of Abstructures, has assured
Speaker 9: us that this fetus is one of seven months age
Speaker 9: and belongs to, according to the very clearly formation of
Speaker 9: the cranium, to the tribe of Honkahs. But they have
Speaker 9: a drawing here.
Speaker 6: Of this guy, dude, it literally looks like something from
Speaker 6: Alien Covenant.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, yeah.
Speaker 7: See what one thing that I do like about you
Speaker 7: is you do the same thing that I like to do.
Speaker 7: What I noticed about is when you pull that first
Speaker 7: book out, I use little tabs.
Speaker 8: Also in my books. I have a lot I actually.
Speaker 7: Buy them on on Amazon by the thousands, right, and
Speaker 7: I got them like you do, right, And I like.
Speaker 7: What I like to do is when I'm talking about something,
Speaker 7: I like to have a book in front of me.
Speaker 8: I do the same exact thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: How to put it, but I really do appreciate that
Speaker 7: because a lot of people, when they do it, they
Speaker 7: do it off the top of their head, and I
Speaker 7: know they memorized it, but you're like me, you can't
Speaker 7: remember it that easy, so you have to go back
Speaker 7: to a source and you want to show people what
Speaker 7: you actually see. Now, whenever I say something, when I
Speaker 7: show it in a book, I'm just telling you, hey,
Speaker 7: this is my evidence. I'm not saying that this is fact.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying this is fiction. When I'm saying is
Speaker 7: somebody took the time to record this to give us
Speaker 7: this information. So at the bare minimum, we should take
Speaker 7: the time to research and go deeper in it. And
Speaker 7: I can tell you one of the books that I
Speaker 7: do the most song because I'm going over one of
Speaker 7: these books because I show you I'm serious when I
Speaker 7: say I'm like you with these tabs. So I really
Speaker 7: do appreciate that because a lot of people.
Speaker 9: That's the size of a true researcher man, which I
Speaker 9: got a pretty good memory, and I can get probably
Speaker 9: eighty eighty percent of the story ride, but I want
Speaker 9: to try to get close to one hundred as I can.
Speaker 9: And also to anybody can make something up and tell
Speaker 9: you something. And I'm the I might as well be
Speaker 9: from Missouri, you know. I'm like, show me, I'm from
Speaker 9: the show.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying that that's how that's will show you. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And when you're pulling out the book and you're showing
Speaker 7: your evidence, you're not. You're saying that, hey, this is
Speaker 7: what I read. I took the time to read this book.
Speaker 7: How can you How can anybody sit there and say
Speaker 7: you're wrong if they haven't read the same aimation you presented, right,
Speaker 7: because you thoroughly went through it. You even highlighted. I
Speaker 7: noticed you even highlight some of the stuff that you're
Speaker 7: doing it. And I do the same thing. When it's like
Speaker 7: double or triple important, I'm like, yeah, I got to
Speaker 7: put a mark on here because this is very important.
Speaker 7: I actually have a series on why YouTube what I've
Speaker 7: learned from reading this book, and I actually do what
Speaker 7: you just do I go through page through page and
Speaker 7: show what I've read and do a love review.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm liking this, this is good. I just
Speaker 8: have to say that.
Speaker 10: No, thank you man.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the thing is when you have a podcast,
Speaker 9: you read all these books. Like I said, you might
Speaker 9: remember a high percentage of it. But to me, I
Speaker 9: think it's important to put the tabs in there and
Speaker 9: highlight it. And then when I go to do a
Speaker 9: podcast on a certain show, I know what certain books
Speaker 9: I need when I pull them out, I got quick references.
Speaker 5: Oh, if you get that ship wrong, people, one will
Speaker 5: definitely let you know that much, especially in like YouTube comments.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're not you could be fucking like
Speaker 5: one day off on something.
Speaker 4: You're wrong. Everything's completely wrong.
Speaker 8: Most of the time.
Speaker 4: Well, you know at the best. You know, Barrio from
Speaker 4: Symbolic Studies even play it out.
Speaker 5: He's like, I love how like you get people that
Speaker 5: will like say you're wrong, but never tell you what
Speaker 5: the correct answer is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I love Mario. I had him.
Speaker 5: I was like, a really good point and unfortunately he
Speaker 5: says that happens a lot on your channel, right. I
Speaker 5: was like, people sit there and ship talk you and
Speaker 5: tell you're wrong. But I never heard her, never saw
Speaker 5: a fu answer. What's the answer, what's the right one?
Speaker 4: Oh? You don't even know either.
Speaker 5: Okay, hey, but I do have a shout out to
Speaker 5: this hater.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'll let you. I'll let you go to man.
Speaker 1: Shout out to b Kane eleven c love that guy
Speaker 1: he thinks I don't like him.
Speaker 8: I like you, man, I like you man.
Speaker 1: I love it when you talk crap about me.
Speaker 4: I don't know what is.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was going to that's cool.
Speaker 7: I was just going to ask, like, what what is
Speaker 7: the DNA say when when you researched it? Because I've
Speaker 7: heard different things, But what what does the DNA say
Speaker 7: to you?
Speaker 8: Or how do you interpret it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 9: Accord to this, like I said, LA had done the
Speaker 9: DNA testing and all that stuff, and which he's got
Speaker 9: it in here in this book. But it's a lot
Speaker 9: of big languages and stuff letters that I have trouble understanding.
Speaker 9: But according to his breakdown, because in here in this
Speaker 9: book he talks about you know this why certain numbers
Speaker 9: strand was found at such and such percent and this
Speaker 9: strand x number such and such was found that this
Speaker 9: percentage and what he said was is. Basically it's a
Speaker 9: mix of European and Middle Eastern descent, but it's more
Speaker 9: predominant in Middle Eastern. So LA's theory is and he's
Speaker 9: a Christian, so he comes from a you know, Christian paradigm.
Speaker 9: Him and Fritz Zimmerman formed this idea that when the
Speaker 9: Israelites came out of Egypt and Exodus and they come
Speaker 9: back into the Holy Land, a lot of people that's
Speaker 9: not familiar. They just see where God tells him to
Speaker 9: kill every man, woman and child, that it's just mass genocide.
Speaker 9: But if you actually do the research and study of
Speaker 9: the genealogies and the name of these tribes, all the
Speaker 9: ones that God commanded them to kill every man, woman
Speaker 9: and child were Nephelum giant clans. So he says that
Speaker 9: he believes, well, you got there everything Bible, Yeah, this
Speaker 9: is I was just reading this what you're talking about,
Speaker 9: like the genealogy that actually has this in here.
Speaker 8: I have another one.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: A lot of people just I mean I was one
Speaker 9: of them too, thinks it's boring and they just kind
Speaker 9: of skim over it. But it's there for a reason.
Speaker 9: And he says that when they started conquering all these
Speaker 9: giant tribes, you know, these were you know, another name
Speaker 9: for them, Tim said, was the Phoenicians, you know, and
Speaker 9: the Canaanites, and they were known as great seafaring people.
Speaker 9: So Fritz in La had come to the theory that
Speaker 9: the ones that were smart and heard about all the
Speaker 9: other giant clans getting wiped out, that there was a
Speaker 9: great diaspora, that a bunch of them fled north into
Speaker 9: Europe and the Caucaus Mountains and Sardinia and all these
Speaker 9: other places. Then another remnant got on this boat and
Speaker 9: went out to North America and settled into the great
Speaker 9: Ohio River Valley region and done the copper mining and
Speaker 9: stuff like I mentioned earlier, and that they just moved
Speaker 9: their way south and went down into Peru. That was
Speaker 9: his theory. And to me, I mean, that makes a
Speaker 9: lot of sense. But like I said, I mean I
Speaker 9: have my predispositions.
Speaker 1: You've got the Phoenician Iberian artifacts showing up in mounds
Speaker 1: in West Virginia, Ohio Valley.
Speaker 9: You know, this was a New Hampshire, the America's Stonehenge.
Speaker 9: The professor from Harvard Barry Fell. They found this stone
Speaker 9: and they call it the Beltane stones what they've named
Speaker 9: it now. But the guy that owns the place, I
Speaker 9: think his name was Roger Stone, found this huge stone
Speaker 9: tablet with all this riding on it that he couldn't
Speaker 9: decipher and nobody could, and he was taking pictures of
Speaker 9: it and sentenced all these universities, and the professor was
Speaker 9: trying to figure out, you know, what kind of writing
Speaker 9: was it?
Speaker 10: What did it say?
Speaker 9: And Barry Fell from Harvard responded and said, he thinks
Speaker 9: he knows what it is, but he wanted to examine
Speaker 9: it in person. So he went up to New Hampshire
Speaker 9: and looked at him and deciphered the thing, and he
Speaker 9: told him, he said, this is ancient Phoenician script and
Speaker 9: it says we the Canaanites, dedicate this site to bail
Speaker 9: and so that was a pretty big paradigm buster. And
Speaker 9: then also with their whole diffusion narrative, I think they
Speaker 9: said it was next to the gates of Hercules up
Speaker 9: there that they found pillars, and there was ancient Phoenician
Speaker 9: script on it too, and it had said that we,
Speaker 9: we Canaanites, have been forced into this land because we've
Speaker 9: been pushed.
Speaker 10: Out of our home by.
Speaker 9: Joshua and Caleb, the robbers, so they were even documenting,
Speaker 9: you know, they were run out by Joshua and Caleb
Speaker 9: and they were forced to go to these other lands.
Speaker 1: It's almost if, too there was and I mean I've
Speaker 1: seen all that. I agree with all that. In fact,
Speaker 1: you're shedding light on a couple of things that I
Speaker 1: didn't even know there. That's awesome. But there's also evidence
Speaker 1: of these other cultures from the Middle East as well.
Speaker 1: So it's almost as if this copper trade turned this
Speaker 1: into a commerce hub that brought in people from all
Speaker 1: over the place. Because you've got you know, the Egyptian stuff,
Speaker 1: the Hebrew stuff. Barry Fail you mentioned him. I've got
Speaker 1: one of his books. In fact, you you actually told
Speaker 1: me to get it, doc and I got it. And
Speaker 1: that book is full of stuff that you'll never hear
Speaker 1: about in a history class, in an American history class.
Speaker 10: Chock full.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And this big dummy either, I mean, this is a
Speaker 9: Harvard professor, but he takes the standpoint of diffusionism.
Speaker 1: America is the true Old World. Man. There you go.
Speaker 1: The New World was built on the Old World.
Speaker 9: And one thing that I found too, with the la
Speaker 9: that I'd never seen before and know how it is.
Speaker 9: You can read something or see something a million times,
Speaker 9: and it takes someone else with an outside perspective to
Speaker 9: show you something that's been in front of your face
Speaker 9: the whole time. But he had mentioned in his book
Speaker 9: that there's even commandments in the Bible condemning the practice
Speaker 9: of elongating heads. So you know, we find the elongated heads,
Speaker 9: you know, down there in the Middle East, But then
Speaker 9: it also ties them in with these giants and the
Speaker 9: Book of Leviticus, there's commandments that kind of got muddied
Speaker 9: up in the English translation. But when you go back
Speaker 9: to the original langua, it tells you that you are
Speaker 9: condemned and commanded not to encircle the rounds of your head.
Speaker 9: And that's a Leviticus, chapter nineteen and verse twenty seven.
Speaker 9: In the English it says, you shall not round the
Speaker 9: corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners
Speaker 9: of thy beard. You shall not make any cuttings in
Speaker 9: your flesh for the dead. And when you go down.
Speaker 9: He's got all the different word translations in the Strong's
Speaker 9: references and all that. Now I'll spare you all that.
Speaker 9: You can look that up on your own if you
Speaker 9: don't believe me, But the word in Hebrew for nikov
Speaker 9: means to surround or to encircle, and it says elsewhere
Speaker 9: the same Hebrew word is translated to compass seven other times,
Speaker 9: to go round about three times, or go about two times,
Speaker 9: and compass about two times. So this word is related
Speaker 9: to the Hebrew word nikov, which means to uh encircle
Speaker 9: with rope. So basically, when you take these translations of
Speaker 9: the Hebrew, the substitution would be you shall not round
Speaker 9: the corners of your heads. However, based upon the information
Speaker 9: containing the preceding paragraphs, they could also be translated you
Speaker 9: shall not surround or encircle the extremities of your head.
Speaker 9: So he was saying to him, it sounds just a
Speaker 9: lot like like headbinding.
Speaker 6: It does sound a lot like headbinding, because.
Speaker 9: The alternative is that you're harring yamica, right.
Speaker 6: That is really fascinating to me because it's idolatry, right, Well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're you're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the skull caps have something to do
Speaker 1: with this that go back to this in any kind
Speaker 1: of a way, because I know, I don't know much
Speaker 1: about this, but I've heard that like people used to
Speaker 1: actually put real skulls on the top of their skull,
Speaker 1: like so like the skull cap that the religious people
Speaker 1: where I don't remember what really young st. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: those things used to be at one point. I've read
Speaker 1: that those things were real, the real cut out parts
Speaker 1: of a skull, and it symbolized in some type of way,
Speaker 1: like uh, taking that person's knowledge and like putting it
Speaker 1: into your mind.
Speaker 9: I don't know, I've never heard anything that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. This was all wrapped up in some
Speaker 1: stuff that I was looking into just to do with
Speaker 1: the skull in general, and like ancestral bloodlines and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and like the priest cheings that we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. Well, some of these guys, even the Sumerians.
Speaker 1: I think some of the royal families today or royal
Speaker 1: families in recent day, trace their lineage back to some
Speaker 1: of these the old.
Speaker 10: Gods, right, Yeah, that's the dragon court.
Speaker 1: Yes, And what you'll see in a lot of castles
Speaker 1: and royal houses across the land is paintings of a
Speaker 1: woman holding a skull, and the skull represents their ancestors
Speaker 1: and what they believe to be a pure bloodline. And
Speaker 1: it's a bloodline that comes through the mother, not the father,
Speaker 1: and it's associated with their divine right to rule, the
Speaker 1: divine right of kings. But it all goes back to
Speaker 1: this bloodline. And you so there's all this crazy stuff
Speaker 1: with the skull, you know, so chock full of symbolism.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the whole veneration thing in the Dragon Court. I
Speaker 9: talk about that in the book, and I recently had
Speaker 9: a conversation with Gary Wayne and we talked about that,
Speaker 9: and also Nicholas de Vere's book The Dragon Legacy, and
Speaker 9: they all trace their lineage back basically to Kane, and
Speaker 9: Kane was the Serpent Seed, and they called themselves the
Speaker 9: Dragon Court and they were they were basically screwed out
Speaker 9: of their birthright and they have the divine right to rule.
Speaker 9: And what's crazy is even Nicholas de Vere, he's from
Speaker 9: the de Vere family, that's one of the elite families too.
Speaker 9: They claim to be from the Dragon Court. But he
Speaker 9: talks about the predominant lines of these people were red hair,
Speaker 9: blue eyed, or wait about about that backwards, blonde hair,
Speaker 9: blue eyed or red haired green eyed. And these are
Speaker 9: where you get all your story, sorry, all your stories
Speaker 9: of the fairies and the Elven race and all this
Speaker 9: kind of Lord Rings stuff that they are esoterically talking about,
Speaker 9: this dragon court.
Speaker 6: That's that's what It's kind of like what I was
Speaker 6: saying earlier, what part of it is the truth and
Speaker 6: what part of it is a bedtime story? The Lord
Speaker 6: of the Rings stuff I believe is based. It's like
Speaker 6: a it's like a story trying to tell a true story.
Speaker 6: And like all the different races are different blood lines,
Speaker 6: and it's like, were they really fairies like Tinker fucking
Speaker 6: Bell or what are they trying to show a bloodline thing?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, like the fairy blood line,
Speaker 6: the dragon bloodline, this that it's like they all Somebody
Speaker 6: put in the comments. I love Gary Wayne. I do too.
Speaker 6: Worked with him several times. Sounds like you have to
Speaker 6: and that's kind of like what he says, It's like
Speaker 6: blood types, bloodlines, and then they create characters to represent
Speaker 6: those different things.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I actually did a show with him a
Speaker 9: while back. It's actually my most popular video. It's got
Speaker 9: like forty thousand views or something. But we actually did
Speaker 9: an entire show on the esoteric meanings of the Lord
Speaker 9: of the Rings. And one of the things he talked about,
Speaker 9: he showed all those examples like you were talking about,
Speaker 9: but one that really blew my mind, and you could
Speaker 9: see it in the episode. I'm like, holy shit, I've
Speaker 9: never thought of that. But he was talking about at
Speaker 9: the end, he said, think about this, he said, you
Speaker 9: had the Elvin race. He's there almost like godlike, he said.
Speaker 9: You can consider them like the watchers, the fallen angels
Speaker 9: that were lording over and watching over humanity, right and
Speaker 9: kind of guiding their path, he said. And then when
Speaker 9: stuff hits the fan, they want to leave and escape,
Speaker 9: and he said, go to this other place to avoid
Speaker 9: judgment and war and all this stuff.
Speaker 10: He said, But they talk about this.
Speaker 9: King that he was a human and he was like
Speaker 9: a foundling, and they were trying to raise him up,
Speaker 9: and they finally defeated the evil handed over the kingship
Speaker 9: to this human race. And at the end, Gandalf, what's
Speaker 9: that other, the Hobbit, Frodo and all those different people
Speaker 9: and the elves are getting on this golden boat and
Speaker 9: he grabs his hand. They walk off and get on
Speaker 9: this boat together, and then they sell off, you know,
Speaker 9: into the unknown, and fade out of sight.
Speaker 10: He says. He said, that's allegorically.
Speaker 9: The flood, the judgment of God, he said, because you
Speaker 9: have the fallen angels that came down intermingled with humanity,
Speaker 9: gave them powers and special technology, he said, And then
Speaker 9: they sailed off and left to try to avoid judgment
Speaker 9: of the flood. And he said, and even at the end,
Speaker 9: what do they say that Gandalf and the elves are leaving.
Speaker 9: They're trying to beg them to stay, and he says, no,
Speaker 9: this is the time for man. So their time of
Speaker 9: rule is over, and now the dominion has been given
Speaker 9: to humanity. And that kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 6: Thet's spot on. What do you think about, like the
Speaker 6: mummy with the fetus? What happens to those things? You know,
Speaker 6: Like do they get put in a museum somewhere where
Speaker 6: people can go and look at it, or do they
Speaker 6: get like confiscated.
Speaker 9: This one got confiscated, because where is it? That says
Speaker 9: right here, as it is only a few years since
Speaker 9: two mummies of children were carried to England and they
Speaker 9: just disappeared after that.
Speaker 6: I knew it because I was waiting for you to say, like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's in this museum and it's like dehydrated like a cheeto.
Speaker 6: Puff and you can go and see this thing. But no,
Speaker 6: it's it's always the ones that are super interesting like that,
Speaker 6: they always get confiscated and then you never you never
Speaker 6: see them again.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they either get destroyed or they get put in
Speaker 9: somebody's private collection, some rich person's private collection, somebody in.
Speaker 8: The More than likely, I was going to say, our government.
Speaker 1: Vatican comes to mind.
Speaker 6: Ooh, yeah, him for it.
Speaker 9: And honestly, Heather Arnold, I told you about we were
Speaker 9: going to go look at that elongated school that she
Speaker 9: knew an actual person that had it in his collection.
Speaker 9: She went to check on it and it had got
Speaker 9: confiscated and taken from the owner. And I think she
Speaker 9: said it was the Dutch. The Dutch is the ones
Speaker 9: that rule over the island of Aruba. And she said, well,
Speaker 9: she said, I had some friends that was wanting to
Speaker 9: investigate this and was wanting to do DNA testing and stuff.
Speaker 9: When are you going to get it back or where
Speaker 9: did it go? And they told her that some scientists
Speaker 9: from Rome got it and they were going to do
Speaker 9: the DNA testing. And it's like the Vatican, man, the Vatican.
Speaker 6: For sure, where did wait, where did they get it from?
Speaker 6: Where did they find it, Okay, so they've got they
Speaker 6: found it their own, and then somebody found out about
Speaker 6: it and came and got it from Rome It.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when I first jumped on, I think I
Speaker 1: heard you guys talking something about Spanish and maybe Aztecs
Speaker 1: are minds. Maybe I'm making all that up. But what's
Speaker 1: interesting with that is if you I was looking into
Speaker 1: the Brewer's Cave and I think that's Utah, and uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great lore around that. It's a
Speaker 1: very wild story.
Speaker 9: Red haired giants, and it was a redheaded king and
Speaker 9: a blondheaded queen.
Speaker 1: Yes, and and I just ordered a book from a
Speaker 1: guy who went in there with John Brewer and saw that,
Speaker 1: and he he has sketches in the book. I've seen
Speaker 1: some of the sketches, and it looks like the giant
Speaker 1: king looks Mongolian in the face, but it has red hair.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, like, maybe there's something too, like
Speaker 1: some of these tartarian Mongols actually being over here. But
Speaker 1: his chest plate looks like like Knight's templar, So it's like,
Speaker 1: what's really going on here? Well, people in that area
Speaker 1: believe that the Spanish came in and got rid of
Speaker 1: all these people that were the giants that were living there,
Speaker 1: including I think like Aztec's are minds as well, and
Speaker 1: that all that stuff got taken by the Spanish and
Speaker 1: turned over to the Vatican. That so, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: that's a conspiracy that goes back to the fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I did to interview a while back with Terry Carter,
Speaker 9: and he's got a YouTube channel called the Terry Carter
Speaker 9: the Treasure Hunter, and he's the way everybody says he's
Speaker 9: the leading expert on Brewer's Cave. And I did an
Speaker 9: interview with him, and he talked about some of the
Speaker 9: eyewitness testimony and stuff like that, and he was of
Speaker 9: the opinion that, you know, if we're being honest, either
Speaker 9: either it's real or it was made up, you know, facade.
Speaker 9: But he said if it was real, he said, the
Speaker 9: way the story goes is Brewer found all this stuff
Speaker 9: and started telling people about it, and he got into
Speaker 9: contact with the Mormon Church in some kind of college
Speaker 9: that was interlinked with the Mormon Church, and they were
Speaker 9: going to go look at this and investigate it. But
Speaker 9: then that college or somebody from that college printed into
Speaker 9: the newspaper about him talking crap, saying that he was
Speaker 9: a crazy man and saying this and that, and then
Speaker 9: all of a sudden he changed his mind and he
Speaker 9: wasn't going to show him. And some people asked for artifacts,
Speaker 9: and he gave them fake artifacts. But Brewer claimed in
Speaker 9: his diary into his family that he would give real
Speaker 9: artifacts to a couple of his friends and that they
Speaker 9: stole them and never gave them back. And there was
Speaker 9: copper tablets.
Speaker 10: All kinds of stuff.
Speaker 9: So like basically he was claiming that he forged some
Speaker 9: of these artifacts to protect the real ones, because he'd
Speaker 9: had some taken from him that were going to be
Speaker 9: examined or whatever, and they stole them. And the story
Speaker 9: goes is to keep from anyone from finding it, he
Speaker 9: went back and dynamited the entrance so no one could
Speaker 9: go in and dig, like some kind of little back
Speaker 9: channel cave hid an entrance to get in there, and
Speaker 9: that only like his son or something new about it.
Speaker 9: And it was like during all this stuff that was
Speaker 9: going on, someone even kidnapped the Sun and killed him
Speaker 9: trying to pry this information of this cave from him.
Speaker 9: It's it's a pretty wild story, man, a lot of
Speaker 9: twists and turns, and it gets confusing really fast.
Speaker 10: But it's a wild story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does get confusing. But like one of the
Speaker 1: versions of the story that I'm kind of looking into
Speaker 1: is this guy, before the controversy starts to surround John Brewer,
Speaker 1: before he gets involved with the Mormons, before he gets
Speaker 1: painted as a hoax, he found the cave and took
Speaker 1: some people up there. And so some of those people
Speaker 1: have gone in there, and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: they've written a book or included some of it in
Speaker 1: a book. Well, this guy who went in there allegedly
Speaker 1: says to what caught his eye, Like they had boxes
Speaker 1: of stuff laying around, right. He said John was taking
Speaker 1: a crowbar smashing open the boxes and he had to
Speaker 1: tell him, man, hey, don't do that. You know, we
Speaker 1: got to open these things carefully with gloves and stuff.
Speaker 1: And he said he got real specific. He was like,
Speaker 1: there's what caught my eye was these little pieces of
Speaker 1: metal where they were doing electro plating. And I'm not
Speaker 1: it's some sort of an art of engraving cop metals
Speaker 1: like copper to preserve it or something. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but I was like, man, that's really specific. You know,
Speaker 1: if this didn't exist. That's a really weird detail for
Speaker 1: somebody to kind of come up with, right electro plating.
Speaker 1: But the whole thing's interesting. Oh yeah, I mean and
Speaker 1: just even it's just that whole region. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing about North America. We have so many regions like that.
Speaker 1: You can kind of just put a blindfold on and
Speaker 1: point to the map over here, and you're going to
Speaker 1: if you look into that area, if you know where
Speaker 1: to look, you're probably going to find something that's ancient
Speaker 1: and you know, interesting, if not surrounded in controversy as well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a thing too.
Speaker 9: Like Terry Carter, he's from that area out there in Utah,
Speaker 9: and he's got it. Like I said, he's got a
Speaker 9: whole channel called, you know, the treasure hunter. And because
Speaker 9: there's so much stuff over there. You know, you have
Speaker 9: the Native American stuff, you have the giants, you have
Speaker 9: the Conquisa doors that come up there and melt it
Speaker 9: down golden over and supposedly hit them in some of
Speaker 9: these caves and you know, hid treasure and they've actually
Speaker 9: found it, you know, with the Spanish markings on it
Speaker 9: and stuff. Some of these treasure hunters all kinds of
Speaker 9: lore about them leaving treasure maps and guides written on
Speaker 9: stone walls out there in the desert, like a treasure
Speaker 9: map like the goonies. It's supposed to supposedly leading to
Speaker 9: these gold and silver, you know, stashes and stuff. There's
Speaker 9: just all kinds of stuff like that out there, and
Speaker 9: like I said, there's so much of it that he
Speaker 9: has a whole YouTube channel on it and has all
Speaker 9: kinds of friends that are all treasure hunters and finding
Speaker 9: treasure and these ancient scripts carved on the side of
Speaker 9: stones and stuff. And I think it's every year. I
Speaker 9: can't remember the name of the get together, but every
Speaker 9: year out there he has like a treasure hunter get together,
Speaker 9: And some of the videos are pretty cool. All these
Speaker 9: treasure hunters just get together and they have bonfires and
Speaker 9: cookouts and they just record it and they tell all
Speaker 9: their stories and bring some of their treasures and show
Speaker 9: it up they found, like I said, Spanish gold, Spanish armor. Uh,
Speaker 9: just all kinds of crazy stuff, which I'm fascinated by
Speaker 9: that kind of stuff because I grew up watching Indiana
Speaker 9: Jones and I'd get to live vicariously through some of
Speaker 9: these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doc, you got to hold something. I saw you
Speaker 1: made a post about it, and I think it's a sphere.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, the giant spear.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Chief Joseph Riverwin, he has a giant bronze
Speaker 9: spear that's that's probably you know, three or four foot
Speaker 9: long and weighs like twenty six pounds and it goes
Speaker 9: on the end of like a like an eight foot.
Speaker 10: Pole and this is the spearhead.
Speaker 9: And it goes with all the legends of the Native
Speaker 9: Americans about the city car and the stone skin giants,
Speaker 9: and they said they had these spears, that the blades
Speaker 9: were so long that they could basically skewer the Natives
Speaker 9: as they were running and trying to get away. They
Speaker 9: could basically skewer like three Indians on one of these blades.
Speaker 10: But yeah, he had.
Speaker 9: Got in contact with the guy that found that in
Speaker 9: the Michigan area up there where all that copper mind
Speaker 9: stuff was, and the guy found it and they thought
Speaker 9: originally that it was a sword, and then Joseph got
Speaker 9: to looking at him like, no, this is a spearhead
Speaker 9: and showed him and the guy was I can't here
Speaker 9: if he was military or if he was like going
Speaker 9: for some kind of work, but either way, he was
Speaker 9: leaving the country, and so he gifted it to Chief
Speaker 9: Joseph and he actually cut into it and had the
Speaker 9: metal work done on it. And I did a show
Speaker 9: with him too, and I actually did that in person,
Speaker 9: and he brought that and I got to hold it
Speaker 9: and look at it. But he brought the metallurgy tests
Speaker 9: with him and read them on that interview I did him.
Speaker 9: And basically, a long story short, they found all kinds
Speaker 9: of every stuff, but basically it traced back to the
Speaker 9: Middle East. So this was probably a weapon that a
Speaker 9: Phoenician giant. Like I said that maybe Kamen was mine
Speaker 9: in this copper lost his spear.
Speaker 1: Because a normal man would not be using that as
Speaker 1: a spear.
Speaker 10: No, stupid, No, it was huge.
Speaker 6: You ever think, like, because I heard you mentioned the goonies,
Speaker 6: there are all these stories about giants and like all
Speaker 6: this treasure and stuff, and we all think that they
Speaker 6: were like amazing other worldly beings and they turn out
Speaker 6: to be a bunch of like sloth with hey you guys,
Speaker 6: like that would be the worst ending of this story
Speaker 6: that they were. But you hear that though there's some
Speaker 6: like in the Bible, right, David and Goliath and they're
Speaker 6: just like big useless idiots that just kind of like
Speaker 6: stomp around. And then there's the ones that are like
Speaker 6: highly intelligent that are responsible for these amazing works of architecture.
Speaker 6: And so it makes you wonder which ones the royal
Speaker 6: families are descended from the sloth clan or like the
Speaker 6: real smart ones like which? And I saw somebody in
Speaker 6: the chat say, uh, that blonde hair and blue eyes
Speaker 6: kind of like just popped up out of nowhere, that
Speaker 6: it was a weird, recessive thing. And then the same
Speaker 6: with the red hair. So yeah, I mean it makes
Speaker 6: you wonder because not all of them were smart. Come on,
Speaker 6: some of them had to be like sloth, especially with
Speaker 6: all the intermingling and the embred weirdness.
Speaker 9: Some of them pat people every culture right them and
Speaker 9: smart people. But like you said, uh, that whole dragon lineage,
Speaker 9: the serpency lineage and stuff. The veryar talks about his
Speaker 9: book that a lot of the New Age people that
Speaker 9: claim to be witches and all this kind of stuff
Speaker 9: and warlocks day, he said, they're laughable.
Speaker 10: He said, yeah, they could have the.
Speaker 9: Perfect spells, they could have the perfect grimoires and do
Speaker 9: all the rituals exactly like the ancients did it, he said,
Speaker 9: But they're not going to get the same outcome because
Speaker 9: the powers in the blood, you know, the elven races
Speaker 9: and these bloodsuckers, the draculas and stuff that's been so
Speaker 9: sensationalized by Hollywood, those were real bloodlines and families and peoples,
Speaker 9: and they had the power in their blood and they
Speaker 9: could actually do those things. And that as time went
Speaker 9: they had, like a Gary Wayne talks about it, they
Speaker 9: had like a reproduction problem, especially if they were giants,
Speaker 9: and so they basically just started intermingling, and it diluted
Speaker 9: the bloodline and tainted it, and it got so weak
Speaker 9: that they can't do the things that they used to
Speaker 9: do anymore. But to try to preserve that power and bloodline,
Speaker 9: that's when they started inter breeding and marrying brother and
Speaker 9: sister and breeding and doing like you get all these
Speaker 9: stories of the royals, you know, to preserve that that pedigree,
Speaker 9: that lineage. That's why they were trying to do that.
Speaker 9: But after so long, you just tank it so bad.
Speaker 9: You get all this inner breeding and you get.
Speaker 10: Those hey you guys in the mix, you know, And
Speaker 10: that's what happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if if one comes out looking like sloth.
Speaker 6: They end up locking them up in like an asylum.
Speaker 6: You never hear about the Royal Family actually had a
Speaker 6: couple that they just kind of were like, yeah, I
Speaker 6: put them in a home somewhere that we fucked up
Speaker 6: on that one. They had cleft lips, cleft palette. You know,
Speaker 6: they had a lot of genetic abnormalities because they were
Speaker 6: literally and you know they say that the Royal Family like, oh,
Speaker 6: Megan Markle, you know, they're they're not all bloodliners. She
Speaker 6: is a bloodliner though, because she's she's descended from Robert
Speaker 6: the Bruce and then Diana's family. Somehow it wasn't like
Speaker 6: it was random, like you still had to be kind
Speaker 6: of in there in some way to be able to
Speaker 6: marry into the Royal family. That yeah, they've diluted it
Speaker 6: quote unquote, but they're still chosen. All those people are chosen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: It was at King Charles said he drew his lineage
Speaker 9: back to Dracula. Yeah, and it talks about him drinking
Speaker 9: blood and stuff. And I talk about it in my book,
Speaker 9: you know, the epic of Esau. Esau marries into Nephlom
Speaker 9: giant clans and breeds with them, and from that union
Speaker 9: you get Amelek, who burst the Amalekite race. And when
Speaker 9: you go to the original etymology of that name, that
Speaker 9: means the blood liquors, so that all the fucking people.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I never knew that blood liquors. Yeah,
Speaker 6: isn't there something Maybe you don't know, But if you
Speaker 6: do know, tell me if I'm right or wrong. This
Speaker 6: story of Elizabeth Batthery, that woman who killed all those
Speaker 6: women and like strung them up and like would bleed
Speaker 6: them out in bathtubs and like drink their blood and
Speaker 6: bathe in their blood. And she she was supposed to
Speaker 6: like have killed hundreds and hundreds of young girls, brought
Speaker 6: them back to her castle, slaughtered them, bathed in their blood,
Speaker 6: drank their blood. She was a descendant from the royal family.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, she was a royal.
Speaker 9: And in that story too, it was the maids and
Speaker 9: the helpers were the ones that went to the towns
Speaker 9: and got these people, right, yeah, and when they busted
Speaker 9: and executed them for being accomplices. But if you remember
Speaker 9: that movie, I can't remember which one it was, but
Speaker 9: it was one of the hostels. Remember the hostile movies.
Speaker 9: They would take tourists.
Speaker 4: I was going to bring that off.
Speaker 9: I was gonna bring that woman that lay there and
Speaker 9: the top of the throats and the people in the tub.
Speaker 10: That's who they were depicting, I think in that movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got it for you, uh meloc Right. So
Speaker 1: the royal family, the Royal House of Luxembourg, they were
Speaker 1: originally Celts. They weren't landlocked. They moved from one the
Speaker 1: coastal and but they landed in Luxembourg, right. They traced
Speaker 1: their lineage back to mail you scene. Who is the
Speaker 1: little mermaid? Inspiration for that? And I think she's also
Speaker 1: the one on the Starbucks logo.
Speaker 4: I had somebody on the show covered that, no shit.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then then if you look around, you see that
Speaker 1: bloodline pops up in other places like Crete, because there's
Speaker 1: another royal bloodline in Cree that traces their lineage back
Speaker 1: to mail you see. And she's like a siren goddess.
Speaker 1: So it's like some of these, some of these gods
Speaker 1: and goddesses may have been actually like real people or
Speaker 1: real royal royals at one point, like like even the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think vlad so King Charles traces his
Speaker 1: back the ladd paler of Romania, who Vlad traces his
Speaker 1: back to one of the Nephelon tribes. And he's even
Speaker 1: got the serpents on his too.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the author Dinanu.
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, and like his like tomb to this day,
Speaker 1: if you go in there and look, it's got dragons
Speaker 1: and serpents on it. So there's that association too, and.
Speaker 10: You find it all on the Vatican too.
Speaker 9: Uh me and Gary was talking about that Nicholas de
Speaker 9: vere book, The Dragon Legacy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: De Vera was saying that when Costantine was trying to
Speaker 9: convert everybody to Christianity and his whole thing put it
Speaker 9: under the Christianity umbrella. That you have these different lines,
Speaker 9: like Julie was talking about of the Dragon court, you know,
Speaker 9: you have different families, but they're all kind of did
Speaker 9: and branched off of the main tree trunk. But there
Speaker 9: was a branch that was kind of like the low tier,
Speaker 9: the bottom feeders of the dragon family. And they called
Speaker 9: them the Tinkers, and the tinkers were your bankers, your merchants,
Speaker 9: and your traders things like that. And the Tinkers had
Speaker 9: weaseled their way into the hierarchy and was right there
Speaker 9: at the right hand of Constantine. And the way the
Speaker 9: story goes is that when Constantine on his deathbed bequeathed
Speaker 9: all the power of the Roman government to the Vatican
Speaker 9: and the Pope, and so that's how the popes and
Speaker 9: the Catholic Church got so predominant. They're basically like the
Speaker 9: rulers and kings ruling everything.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 9: Devere says that the actual dragon court, the high ones,
Speaker 9: were at the other side, and they were the ones
Speaker 9: in control, but the tinkers weaseled their way in, and
Speaker 9: that Constantine's deathbed confession the royals, the true royals, thinks
Speaker 9: that it was a huge lie and deception that the
Speaker 9: tinkers lied and said that it was given to them.
Speaker 9: Because the tinkers had weaseled their way into Constant Ten's
Speaker 9: court and into the Vatican. And that's why when you
Speaker 9: go to the Vatican today, all your crown moldings and stuff,
Speaker 9: you have all these serpents and dragon heads, and the
Speaker 9: main symposium looks like a serpent's head. That's why he says,
Speaker 9: you have all that imagery in the Vatican, because that
Speaker 9: is where the dragon court and the tinkers wizzled their
Speaker 9: way into the organization. They left their mark.
Speaker 6: That's incredible to me because I've talked about stuff like
Speaker 6: that before. All these big banking families and stuff, the wroth,
Speaker 6: they're all come from that serpent line.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's what he said in that book. He said,
Speaker 9: that's the reason why the worlds and such shit now
Speaker 9: because the tinkers, the bottom feeders, weaseled in and took
Speaker 9: over control. And that's why the world is ruled by
Speaker 9: greed and we're raping the land and pillaging the land,
Speaker 9: and everything is just all about money and greed. And
Speaker 9: you know, all this kind of stuff is because the
Speaker 9: bottom feeders of the Dragon family, the Tinkers, have taken over.
Speaker 1: What if it goes back to the chaos dragon, the
Speaker 1: dragon from the beginning of time? What do you think
Speaker 1: about that, doc.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's kind of a muddy water, you know,
Speaker 9: but I think that it all comes back to Satan,
Speaker 9: the original adversary, because he's described as the ancient twisting serpent,
Speaker 9: and a lot of people when I bring that up,
Speaker 9: they're like, oh.
Speaker 10: Well, there's so many other entities.
Speaker 9: It has to be, you know, busted up into all
Speaker 9: these other different ones because Satan was there at the garden.
Speaker 9: If he was the dragon, you know, like ray have
Speaker 9: and all the legends and stories, he should have been
Speaker 9: kicked out of heaven. But even way after, like in
Speaker 9: the Book of Job, it says that God has his
Speaker 9: divine counsel and Satan shows up and he's like.
Speaker 10: Where have you been.
Speaker 9: I've been going to and fro on the earth and
Speaker 9: he's like, oh, have you considered my servant job? Basically,
Speaker 9: have you accused him or tested him? And he was like, ah,
Speaker 9: he's only he only worships you because you're so good
Speaker 9: to him. He has all this money and stuff. Let
Speaker 9: me do this and let me do that, He'll curse you.
Speaker 9: So it shows that long after the fall, Satan was
Speaker 9: still allowed a seat in the divine council.
Speaker 10: So it's like.
Speaker 9: Maybe it was kind of like the legends of like
Speaker 9: you get the Norse legends of Loki. Loki was the troublemaker.
Speaker 9: He was kicked out of Belheim or what was that called,
Speaker 9: I can't remember the name of the city, New Yeah,
Speaker 9: but he was kicked out of that and forced to
Speaker 9: live as an outcast, but on occasion he was allowed
Speaker 9: to come in for like banquets and things like that so.
Speaker 8: With celebrations and stuff. Yep.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think Loki is kind of like a
Speaker 9: different archetype of the of the Satan figure because even
Speaker 9: in the legend was at the Ragnarok. It says that
Speaker 9: once Loki had done so much treacherous things that they
Speaker 9: chained him in a cave and one of his children
Speaker 9: was a venom of serpent, and they chained his child
Speaker 9: above him, and that way the salifa and the venom
Speaker 9: was constantly dripping on him, and he couldn't break the chains,
Speaker 9: but his wife would sit there and try to give
Speaker 9: him water and wipe the poison away. But then when
Speaker 9: Ragnarok comes, he's released and he riks Havoc and he
Speaker 9: works with the agents of Chaos to overthrow his father.
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting you say that because I'm probably
Speaker 7: gonna ruffle some feathers. But you know, in the uh,
Speaker 7: there's some apocrypha out there about Jesus. We know Jesus
Speaker 7: was missing from you know, from twelve to a certain age, right,
Speaker 7: and some of the apocrypha he was a trickster. There's
Speaker 7: some sayings that he you know, he pushed one of
Speaker 7: his friends off a roof and resurrected him, or he
Speaker 7: one of one of his friends fell off the roof
Speaker 7: and he read. I mean, there's different stories about him
Speaker 7: performing mischievous things to some people and parents getting upset
Speaker 7: at him, and he was ran away because he had
Speaker 7: abilities to do things that weren't seemed normal.
Speaker 8: So he was also known as a trickster in the apocrypha.
Speaker 9: Also, yeah, and that was in the nog commodity text
Speaker 9: that they'd found, and that that was all the Gnostic text.
Speaker 10: But yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 7: It's crazy, right, like how And it's just amazing that
Speaker 7: when you bring that up to some people, because I
Speaker 7: grew up in the Catholic Church, when you bring that
Speaker 7: up to some people, they don't want to believe you
Speaker 7: on that. But there's actually text that says that, and
Speaker 7: they always argue about the text being the forgery. But
Speaker 7: everything that comes from the Sumerians after that is usually,
Speaker 7: you know, considered a forgery because the Samerians had a
Speaker 7: certain right way of writing their stuff down and keeping
Speaker 7: it down. And that's just not saying that the Sumerians
Speaker 7: themselves were doing it. The language, the writing itself was
Speaker 7: carried forward even into the Akkadians, Babylonians and so on
Speaker 7: and so forth. I actually have a Bible from eighteen
Speaker 7: seventy three that says the people Assumer.
Speaker 8: Babylon and Kaldia, they all are one in the same people.
Speaker 7: And I presented the page and everything I took a
Speaker 7: picture of, but I do a video set on it,
Speaker 7: Like I said, what I've done reading these books, and
Speaker 7: I take pictures just like how you do things too.
Speaker 8: And it's actually in that Bible.
Speaker 7: And it's interesting that, you know, they consider those three,
Speaker 7: you know, with some people say different cultures as one
Speaker 7: and one and the same.
Speaker 1: I would say that there was a link between those
Speaker 1: three empires and the changing of hands, and definitely knowledge
Speaker 1: being passed down throughout the generations, throughout the empire lineage
Speaker 1: there including Summer, Kaldians, Babylon direct direct links.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 1: I love that, you know.
Speaker 7: And also in that same Bible it says, uh that
Speaker 7: the Pope of Rome and yeah, I'll go grab mines
Speaker 7: in the second. Just in the second, I'll go grab
Speaker 7: it the Pope of Room and.
Speaker 10: Uh Appalon in eighteen eleven.
Speaker 8: All right, seven, I'm gonna go get I'm gonna grab my.
Speaker 10: Real Yeah, this thing is from eighteen eleven.
Speaker 11: Oh damn, look at that, and it's gotta be yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 10: It's even got letters in here that I found. Uh,
Speaker 10: where's it at seventeen eighty one? Whoa, Yeah, this thing
Speaker 10: is really old.
Speaker 4: Holy that's cool as shit.
Speaker 8: Man, here's mine right here.
Speaker 4: Bro, let's get let's get it.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, oh I got that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah that is awesome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, bro, eighteen seventy three. Bro, Like, really, class are
Speaker 8: there eight class?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Just like your discrepancies.
Speaker 8: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 7: That's why I'm going through mine right now, because what
Speaker 7: a lot of people will say is that this is what.
Speaker 2: I can hear.
Speaker 7: A lot of people that I said says that the
Speaker 7: New Jerusalem Bible is the most accurate Bible.
Speaker 8: I have to study edition one.
Speaker 7: So what I'm doing, slowly but surely, is taking this
Speaker 7: one and taking my eighteen seventy three Bible and going
Speaker 7: through it. It's it's crazy because I've read at least
Speaker 7: six or seven different versions of the Bible. I've also
Speaker 7: had the privilege and honor of talking to Jeff Benner,
Speaker 7: who's a Hebrew scholar who translated. He actually sent me
Speaker 7: twenty of his or fifteen of his books. He has
Speaker 7: like twenty or twenty.
Speaker 8: Something books, and.
Speaker 7: I can tell you there's minor small discrepancies. One of
Speaker 7: them that I found as interesting is if you read
Speaker 7: the group Greek septuagen with the Apocrypha, uh, it says
Speaker 7: Goliath has four cubits in the span. But if you
Speaker 7: read the read the King James version, he's six cubits
Speaker 7: in the span. So the size difference, because we're talking
Speaker 7: about giants and stuff like that, the side difference would
Speaker 7: be different. So that's anywhere between six to nine feet respectively,
Speaker 7: give or tape from both sides. And then you got,
Speaker 7: like I said, like the Apocrypha, you got the different
Speaker 7: books with like Jesus being the trickster, but those aren't
Speaker 7: in you know, certain texts. And then you have the
Speaker 7: Book of Enoch, which she was missing mess uh mentioning
Speaker 7: about you have three different versions actually of the Book
Speaker 7: of Enoch. The first one, I believe, the first book
Speaker 7: of the I think they call it is the most
Speaker 7: accurate one if I'm not mistaken, And then uh yeah, right,
Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken, And then yeah, there's just so
Speaker 7: many different things. And then like I had, I was
Speaker 7: just I just took a picture of some books that
Speaker 7: I that about Jesus, the Life of Jesus, and there's
Speaker 7: these There's just a whole bunch of books outside of
Speaker 7: what they considered apocrypha. But the apocrypha literally just means,
Speaker 7: you know, forbidden books. So there's just books that come
Speaker 7: from everywhere. I know that in this one right here,
Speaker 7: this Bible actually gives you a definition in the beginning
Speaker 7: of all the words that it means. I actually have
Speaker 7: uh in here, and I did a YouTube video on
Speaker 7: it where they mentioned the Pyramids in here. So you
Speaker 7: know how a lot of people talk about you know,
Speaker 7: the pyramids aren't mentioning and they don't have a Hebrew
Speaker 7: word for it and stuff like that. What they do
Speaker 7: is actually they some people will say that it was
Speaker 7: the Tower of Babble, and I'm not sure if Doc Brown,
Speaker 7: if you if you had any core relations with that.
Speaker 9: Now I'm not really looked into that that deep, but
Speaker 9: honestly I want to get that. The second one I
Speaker 9: showed you that was like yours, the spine is really
Speaker 9: messed up. So when I open it and look through it,
Speaker 9: I have to be really careful. Mine is like to
Speaker 9: get it restored. I talked to a guy. He said
Speaker 9: for five hundred bucks he'd restore it, So I want
Speaker 9: to get it restored.
Speaker 10: That way I can.
Speaker 9: Actually use it, because that thing is amazing, and yours
Speaker 9: looks identical to mine, so I'm sure it's the same.
Speaker 9: But it's got huge sections of it that is nothing
Speaker 9: but definitions, drawings of ancient coins, and all kinds of
Speaker 9: cool pictures and diagrams and maps and full color like
Speaker 9: painted gold leaf images, and it has like the wax
Speaker 9: paper to separate the images and stuff, and it's just
Speaker 9: got all these bright colored images and stuff.
Speaker 10: It's a beautiful book with a long.
Speaker 7: I'm activation I'm actually, like I said, I'm going slowly
Speaker 7: through mine on my YouTube because, like you said, my
Speaker 7: binding is messed up too. So what I usually do
Speaker 7: is I get a little small blanket or a pillow
Speaker 7: and I put it up against this so the buying
Speaker 7: will stay where it's at, and I just slowly turned
Speaker 7: the pages. I have gloves and stuff like that. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm slowly trying to get it all on my YouTube.
Speaker 7: It's just a lot of information, and with the little
Speaker 7: amount of time that I have, with everything that I want.
Speaker 7: It's really hard, but I'm definitely gonna get back into it.
Speaker 7: I went through the definitions in the beginning because some
Speaker 7: of the definitions are in there and is amazing.
Speaker 8: Like I said.
Speaker 7: Earlier, in my Bible, it actually says that the Pope
Speaker 7: of Rome and Satan are one and the same. And
Speaker 7: it's crazy that it says it in there. So and
Speaker 7: I think Appleon is included in that list too. So
Speaker 7: it literally says that I have it on my YouTube
Speaker 7: channel already like this, so, and I took a picture
Speaker 7: of it, and I probably can put it up on
Speaker 7: matter of fact, I think I put it on Twitter.
Speaker 7: It should be on it. I pull it up in
Speaker 7: a second.
Speaker 1: That Apolyon shows up in there, I think in Revelations.
Speaker 1: But I mean I was looking at there was a
Speaker 1: lady on YouTube who was pulling out her Bible and
Speaker 1: it was from eighteen eighty four, I think, and it
Speaker 1: like included an introduction paragraph talking about mound builders and
Speaker 1: they said the the they were talking about the ancient
Speaker 1: race that made it to.
Speaker 6: America shut up ten.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it was right there in this lady's Bible.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think she was trying to push
Speaker 1: any kind of a narrative. She was just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is weird that this this is in here, and
Speaker 1: you know it kind of eighteen eighty four is when
Speaker 1: that Bible was dated too, and it kind of coincides
Speaker 1: with I would suggest, the eighteen eighty push by the
Speaker 1: government and like the science clubs to dismiss that very notion.
Speaker 1: So I was looking at it like this, like maybe
Speaker 1: this is like the origin story for this war of
Speaker 1: the narratives where you have some people like pulling the
Speaker 1: giant bones out of museums and trying to cover it
Speaker 1: all up, and then then you have it written down
Speaker 1: in a Bible too, which is in because that became
Speaker 1: like a battle of the narratives, right, And I would say,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, historically the Bible people were right, or
Speaker 1: whoever wrote that in the Bible in that introductry paragraph
Speaker 1: was right.
Speaker 6: Well think about it, tim, It's like the same time
Speaker 6: when they decided that they were going to tell everybody
Speaker 6: and teaching like history class that the Native Americans built
Speaker 6: separate mound and the Native Americans were responsible for the
Speaker 6: mounds in Louisiana and all these places. And it's like
Speaker 6: you go and you ask them, and it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: how did you guys build all these fucking, really intricate
Speaker 6: ass mounds And they're like, we didn't. Actually they were
Speaker 6: here when we got here, but we never we It's like,
Speaker 6: why can't we take their word for it? We asked
Speaker 6: the Native Americans, they said they didn't do it, So.
Speaker 10: They're that story.
Speaker 9: You know, once they started this Reappropriation Act and they
Speaker 9: realized that they could get claims to lands and historic sites,
Speaker 9: they're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we changed our mind.
Speaker 6: Sure yeah, like sure we did we yep, we built it.
Speaker 6: We built it. But like Serpent Mound in particular, the
Speaker 6: stories are that it was there the Native Americans moved
Speaker 6: into that area, and it was already fucking there, So
Speaker 6: I mean, why can't we just take their word for it?
Speaker 1: And I think that it was excavated around that time
Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty by Putnam.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 6: Said that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like associated with the Smithsonian and the Peabody.
Speaker 1: So it's like they had they sent their own people
Speaker 1: in there so they could have control of the situation,
Speaker 1: right because Putnam was he said that they pulled six
Speaker 1: feet people out of Serpent Mountain, like that's what he documented.
Speaker 1: But then later it comes out that they were pulling
Speaker 1: out seven foot or.
Speaker 10: More bigger than that.
Speaker 9: I went down there and I recorded, which I've done
Speaker 9: it like over a year ago. I've been trying to
Speaker 9: make a little documentary on it. But I talked to
Speaker 9: some of the locals and some natives and check this out.
Speaker 9: You know how everybody thinks it's the serpent eating the egg. Well,
Speaker 9: the local natives they say that when Putnam wrote down
Speaker 9: all his stuff, that it was totally different, and that
Speaker 9: they reconstructed it to try to preserve it, but they
Speaker 9: lost some of the features.
Speaker 10: And so they.
Speaker 9: Said that this is what they believe that it originally was.
Speaker 9: It's a serpent eating a turtle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Turtle Island, that's what. That's what the natives.
Speaker 9: Quasi kettle coming up from South America devouring Turtle Island,
Speaker 9: North America.
Speaker 6: Holy ship.
Speaker 10: Well, that that's why I was.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just talking about.
Speaker 9: And here is a picture from that conical mound, that
Speaker 9: serpent mound. And like you said, Tim, this was a
Speaker 9: seventh skeleton, but at the knees, it's it's it was
Speaker 9: missing its limbs from the knees down and its hands
Speaker 9: were cut off, So did it have six fingers and
Speaker 9: six toes. I think it's a good possibility.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh shit, they took parts off. Oh my god.
Speaker 10: So seven foot at the knees.
Speaker 6: Yep, seven foot at the knee. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I looked into the guy who put that picture out too,
Speaker 1: and it kind of seems legit, and I just looked
Speaker 1: it up. Frederick Ward Puttnam, a Harvard University archaeologist, is
Speaker 1: known for his work as Serpent Mound, Ohio during the
Speaker 1: late eighteen eighties.
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's when in my research, that's when the narrative, the
Speaker 1: big narrative shift was starting to be pushed was eighteen eighty.
Speaker 1: They were being our people over here are people in
Speaker 1: government like the Ayah, Cincinnati, those Cosmos Club, DC, all
Speaker 1: your power players in eighteen eighty were being heavily influenced
Speaker 1: by the Royal Club across the Pond, the British Rural Society,
Speaker 1: and this new science movement that was rising up, and
Speaker 1: it took over. It's like the Serpent taking over North America.
Speaker 1: The science guys took over, and if you were in
Speaker 1: their way, anything that you had any cool artifacts out
Speaker 1: of place, artifacts out of place theories was in their way. Bad,
Speaker 1: too bad. You're getting bulldozed, just like they bulldozed the
Speaker 1: mounds in Saint Louis to put the city down.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, but see, you know, the only thing
Speaker 7: that gets me is when you read the Book of Enoch, though,
Speaker 7: their giants are described as like skyscrapers, so that right
Speaker 7: there there was a whole little new theory out there
Speaker 7: for me to, you know, try to figure out. Because
Speaker 7: a lot of people will argue that, they will say,
Speaker 7: forget the seven foot eight foot for giants, what about
Speaker 7: the ones in the Book of Enoch?
Speaker 8: What is your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Brown?
Speaker 9: Honestly, I mean, at the same time, we don't know
Speaker 9: because it says like so many hundred or a thousand als.
Speaker 9: You know, we speculate what an al is, but we
Speaker 9: truly don't know. I mean, it's an ancient measurement. We
Speaker 9: don't know what an al is. We can speculate and
Speaker 9: say what we think it is, but we honestly don't know.
Speaker 9: You know, an ale could be six inches, you know,
Speaker 9: it could be two inches. I mean, we don't know.
Speaker 9: It could be a foot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: But one thing I do believe is that there's a
Speaker 9: distinct difference between the giants pre flood and post flood,
Speaker 9: and even the Bible distincts it because they were called
Speaker 9: the giants, the mighty men of Old pre flood, and
Speaker 9: then after the flood they were known as the repaem Uh.
Speaker 9: And I think even like you look at the evidence,
Speaker 9: like you can look through the archaeological records, like if
Speaker 9: you find a modern day eagle's head, you know, modern
Speaker 9: day eagle head this big, but they find ancient eagles
Speaker 9: heads in the fossil record that is this big. We
Speaker 9: have a modern turtle that's this big, but in the
Speaker 9: archaeological record they find tortoises this big.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I have a Yeah.
Speaker 9: The trees, the leaks, everything, everything pre flood was bigger, better, stronger,
Speaker 9: And so we're the people.
Speaker 4: And that too.
Speaker 6: The doorways. Who's the fuck is walking through there? You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I mean, Nick, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. You see these these cathedrals with like
Speaker 6: fifty foot archways like what he was walking through there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say that gigant Epithecus, remember the
Speaker 7: primate that were giants that they that they talk about.
Speaker 10: Talk about my book.
Speaker 9: He said he come out covered in hair from head
Speaker 9: to toe and will tell people what we call a
Speaker 9: bigfoot today. I think just back then they called a
Speaker 9: feral giant.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I did an article it said that the bigfoot was
Speaker 7: inky Do because Inky Do was a special that was
Speaker 7: in the woods and uh, they sent the pros prostitute
Speaker 7: to go out there and get him to be a
Speaker 7: human like individual. And now Yoga and that's how eventually
Speaker 7: Yoga Messi and him had friendship. There's also actual text
Speaker 7: that actually said they had a romantic.
Speaker 8: Relationship to Gigle messioned inky Do.
Speaker 7: I posted that up earlier on the on my Twitter account,
Speaker 7: and I think, if I'm not mistaken, it comes from
Speaker 7: either the electronic texts Corpus.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think it comes from the electronic texts Corpus Sumerian
Speaker 7: literature where it talks about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I theorized that in the book that uh inky Do
Speaker 9: is the the Babylonian slash Samerian version of Esaul because
Speaker 9: they're both covered and hair from head to toe. They're
Speaker 9: both in the image Trust Dodge, and they were both
Speaker 9: known as the Mighty Hunter and the Book of Jasher
Speaker 9: says that h Esau and Nimrod battle to the death
Speaker 9: the supernatural garments from the Garden of God, and in uh,
Speaker 9: you know, the Hebrew version, their guy Esau wins and
Speaker 9: kills Nimrod takes his head off. But then when you
Speaker 9: go to the Samerian version, it says that at their
Speaker 9: battle that Demrod defeats Inky dooo. So it's like a
Speaker 9: in my opinion, like an version. It's it's different cultures versions,
Speaker 9: and they're they're they're spinning it to where their guy
Speaker 9: wins yeah yeah, and best friends yeah, and they take
Speaker 9: off on all these epic adventures together.
Speaker 7: You know me, you think alike, man like, I'm not
Speaker 7: even joking, bro, Like my guy journey through the Origins
Speaker 7: of History it actually went bestseller in Samaran Babbylon and
Speaker 7: uh History and Mesopotamian History, And a lot of what
Speaker 7: you're saying is actually accurate to the point where I'm
Speaker 7: psyched that it's like we read almost them there the
Speaker 7: same type of books, because that's exactly what it says
Speaker 7: they had. You know, there's different versions and different translations.
Speaker 7: You know, I always tell people, you know, just because
Speaker 7: you read one translation doesn't mean that's the accurate one.
Speaker 7: Find the translation where somebody's arguing against that point, and
Speaker 7: read their version and see which one can provide the evidence.
Speaker 7: And that's why I like what you did when you
Speaker 7: pulled out the book with those tabs, because I like
Speaker 7: to do that too. If I know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 7: I can go straight to that tab and be like,
Speaker 7: this is what it says. And if somebody says, you know,
Speaker 7: go through your own research, it's like a slap in
Speaker 7: my face because I literally have the research in my
Speaker 7: hand right now, so I want to know what you
Speaker 7: know the other person talks about. I definitely added your
Speaker 7: book to my card because I do want to read it.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 8: I like the intelligence, I know. I like the knowledge
Speaker 8: that you're sharing.
Speaker 4: I think what you're doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah. I'm already going to be on it, man, Like,
Speaker 8: Like what i'd like to do, is I like it.
Speaker 6: On Amazon?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: It's on Amazon.
Speaker 6: Yep, all right, I'm going to put it in my card.
Speaker 10: Nice, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4: Doc.
Speaker 6: Did you see that comment in the side It said
Speaker 6: Wiki Leaks exposed Hillary Clinton's interest in Gilgamesh Kimmish.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I didn't read that comment, but I know what
Speaker 10: they're talking about.
Speaker 6: That to me is really fucking interesting. You know what, else,
Speaker 6: there is a picture of the Queen. Anybody can google it,
Speaker 6: so you don't think I'm full of shit. There was
Speaker 6: like a museum that opened and it was like giant
Speaker 6: skeletons and it's a picture of like the Queen with
Speaker 6: like a bunch of members of the Royal shittery and
Speaker 6: she's like posing next to the big skull and she's
Speaker 6: all like proud of it and stuff. It's like, Oh,
Speaker 6: you're trying to say this is where you came from.
Speaker 6: Is that why you're so crazy.
Speaker 10: Looking great granddaddy?
Speaker 6: Right, It's like she's all proud of it and like
Speaker 6: all admiring it and shit, it's like they know what's up.
Speaker 6: Like Hillary Clinton's all, you know, getting up in Gilgamesh's
Speaker 6: tomb and all. I mean, it's crazy to me that
Speaker 6: how how obvious it is.
Speaker 1: You know, when they used a word, when they drop
Speaker 1: the word nephylm in those documents in the Clinton emails, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, oh, so that they know about this, they know, yeah,
Speaker 6: they know, uh huh yeah. I was actually gonna say too,
Speaker 6: this is just not a side tangent or anything. But
Speaker 6: I moved to the Pacific Northwest about a year ago,
Speaker 6: and I had I had never seen the redwood trees,
Speaker 6: and I had never seen the mountains, like there are
Speaker 6: an Oregon in California and it's magnificent. But if you
Speaker 6: ever look at like the what they call the table rock,
Speaker 6: because we drove by a bunch of it and I
Speaker 6: was like, what the fuck is that? And Colby told
Speaker 6: me that it's the table rock. But if you really
Speaker 6: look at it, it looks like petrified megalithic trees umps.
Speaker 6: And I think that, you know, they they have ways
Speaker 6: of explaining things so that you're not thinking that giant
Speaker 6: things like that existed. But to me, when I look
Speaker 6: at it, it's like looking at it like a mile
Speaker 6: across petrified tree stump, And you know when you see
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and even some of the redwood trees,
Speaker 6: they're like hundreds of feet across and you're just staring
Speaker 6: at it, like we live in like I don't know
Speaker 6: what we live in, But there used to be giant.
Speaker 9: Things on this planet there hat flood, everything was larger,
Speaker 9: and a lot of people don't realize either. And I
Speaker 9: keep this for like show and tail, which I know
Speaker 9: is this video you can't really see it or feel
Speaker 9: it or touch it.
Speaker 10: But this right here, it looks like a rock, right
Speaker 10: and you can hear it.
Speaker 9: It's solid. It's a rock, but it's not a rock.
Speaker 9: Look closer. That is petrified wood. You could see the rings.
Speaker 9: But to the untrained eye, this is a rock. It
Speaker 9: looks like a rock, it feels like a rock. Oh,
Speaker 9: it's a rock, but no, it's not. It's a petrified
Speaker 9: piece of tree. And if you look at these lines
Speaker 9: and stations, Devil's Tower and some of these other you know,
Speaker 9: mountains or plateaus that's got these striations and lines in it.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not a really smart guy, but I
Speaker 9: mean I know two and two equals four.
Speaker 10: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: That's why I think all the legends about like gigantic
Speaker 6: creatures in the sea, like Nessy and shit like that.
Speaker 6: Maybe Nessy itself is like fantastical, but I do believe
Speaker 6: that there were like huge serpents in the sea. Hu.
Speaker 6: I mean, there have been documented accounts of people seeing
Speaker 6: weird shit in the ocean for hundreds of years. Alistair
Speaker 6: Crowley had a state. Yeah, he had an estate.
Speaker 9: And the sea creature is the only thing that would
Speaker 9: survive a worldwide flood, right, But I mean you can
Speaker 9: even explore the depths of the sea today, So I
Speaker 9: mean there's quite possibly some you know, prehistoric monsters in
Speaker 9: the deep that we just don't know about.
Speaker 6: Well think about. I think that James Cameron, the director,
Speaker 6: I think he's an occultist. I don't care what anybody's
Speaker 6: I think he's an occultist. Okay, all of his movies
Speaker 6: like Titanic, the Abyss. Think about the Abyss, Okay, motherfucker
Speaker 6: is trying to tell you something that there's something way
Speaker 6: deep down that will never be able to get to
Speaker 6: in the ocean. I mean, the movie Avatar all that.
Speaker 6: I think he's definitely an occultist. But there's I think
Speaker 6: that the next Frontier or whatever is actually not space
Speaker 6: at all. I don't even know if I believe in
Speaker 6: space at this point. I think it's the oceans. I
Speaker 6: think that there there'll probably be another catastrophic event, maybe
Speaker 6: not even in our lifetimes, but it's going to be
Speaker 6: like another flood that wipes us all out, and then
Speaker 6: like hundreds of years from now. It's like I said
Speaker 6: in the in another episode, people will be digging up
Speaker 6: taco bell sports and being like, Oh, look at this
Speaker 6: ancient technology. I wonder what they used it for, and
Speaker 6: it's like it's literally right, yeah, yeah, But I do think.
Speaker 1: Like Lovecraft, Lovecraft and the Cthulhu, and then people there's
Speaker 1: like a cultist I was reading about this. There's a
Speaker 1: group of occultists from Chicago who were driving out to
Speaker 1: the lakes in Wisconsin to try and summon a lake
Speaker 1: monster inspired by Lovecraft's Cuthulhu because they believe that he
Speaker 1: was talking about a real some sort of a real thing,
Speaker 1: a real entity.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, he could have been. That's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 6: it's like they make it fantastical to the point where
Speaker 6: you think it's like a Disney movie, but it's really
Speaker 6: based on like The Little Mermaid and like some of
Speaker 6: these stories have been turned into fairy tales, but they're
Speaker 6: actually based on like reality, And so I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think that Earth goes through seasons or eras or cycles,
Speaker 6: and like we're due for one and in a couple
Speaker 6: of hundred years where they're going to be digging up
Speaker 6: shit and being like, oh, look at this thing, and
Speaker 6: it's like, dude, it's a tampon has a tampon.
Speaker 9: You guys watching the news use I mean, my god,
Speaker 9: all the flooding that's going on, all the sods and
Speaker 9: flowers that we're getting, all the earthquakes it's going on.
Speaker 9: Volcanoes are rep and there's eighty it's the most ever recorded.
Speaker 9: There's eighty active volcanoes right now.
Speaker 6: But if I were going to choose one, doc, you
Speaker 6: can disagree. I would rather be a fucking ice age
Speaker 6: than to heat the earth up and have another flood,
Speaker 6: because fuck the heat. I would rather never endure another
Speaker 6: summer again and just be like, oh my god, for
Speaker 6: the next ten years summer it's like seventy degrees all season.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 1: J You're related. You're related to the redheaded giant ice giants.
Speaker 1: It's in your blood.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I tell people all the time that I'd rather be
Speaker 9: cold than hot, because I button naked and be burning up.
Speaker 10: You know, if you're cold, you just put another layer on.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I could your vibe and ice age. I
Speaker 6: get two degrees too hot. I want to I'm homicidal.
Speaker 6: I can't even deal with life. Yeah. So if there's
Speaker 6: gonna be another cataclysm, please God an ice age. I
Speaker 6: would be down for an ice age.
Speaker 10: Fuck yes, actually never bothered me anyway, there you go.
Speaker 6: Which, by the way, Frozen is based on some of
Speaker 6: those bloodline stories that we were talking about. Elsa blonde hair,
Speaker 6: blue eyed, right Anna, green eyes, red hair, they come
Speaker 6: from a royal bloodline, they got magical powers. Just saying
Speaker 6: if you look into Frozen, there is a lot of
Speaker 6: that bloodline uh story in the background.
Speaker 4: Going.
Speaker 1: That's totally totally like I don't watch Disney movies, but
Speaker 1: I'll see like Disney previews for these movies show up,
Speaker 1: and I'll watch and it's like they're all like it's
Speaker 1: all stuff out of mythologies that I read or grimoires.
Speaker 6: One hundred absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: All of them, and and all these old entities, especially
Speaker 1: these Disney female goddesses. They resemble the goddesses of old.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's almost like it's just a retelling
Speaker 1: of the mythology and.
Speaker 6: The Marvel stuff. The Marvel stuff's got it bad, like
Speaker 6: the new series that they're putting out like on Disney
Speaker 6: Plus with like Loki and uh wand division about like
Speaker 6: the Scarlet Witch, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 6: they had Moonlight, which is a lot of the Egyptian weirdness,
Speaker 6: and I think Marvel puts a lot they compact like
Speaker 6: Project paper Clip. They had a lot of nine to
Speaker 6: eleven weirdness, like with the Iron Man movies and so
Speaker 6: Disney Scott. If you want to learn something about ancient history,
Speaker 6: go watch a fucking Disney movie, because it's got all
Speaker 6: of it in there.
Speaker 1: Mark Stanley and one of his big guys over at
Speaker 1: Marvel was Jack Kirby, and a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that they were working with. First of all, they were
Speaker 1: based in some of their stuff off of Howard Hughes,
Speaker 1: and Howard Hughes worked with like the CIA and special
Speaker 1: government product projects. It gets real weird with Marvel.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And just to show you, like an example, they're constantly
Speaker 9: all their superheroes are pulling from mythology and old gods,
Speaker 9: you know, from Nors, from the Egyptians. At Dark Knight Guy,
Speaker 9: he was based on an Egyptian god. And stick this out.
Speaker 9: I found this old comic book a while back. But
Speaker 9: this shows you they're constantly pulling from the Bible and stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh it's just like the what are they riding on
Speaker 6: a fish or something?
Speaker 10: And they're stealing king Ogg's bed the giant, oh my god.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And they got like they got like a clock
Speaker 6: with a ring around it, like Saturn, like.
Speaker 10: Yep, yeah, a time travel boat.
Speaker 6: One of the first Mickey mouses had like some space
Speaker 6: traveler named Elon in it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: So no predictive programming there.
Speaker 1: King Ogg's fed interesting.
Speaker 7: Well, they got to keep there, They got to keep
Speaker 7: the stories going. And they can't come out and just
Speaker 7: tell people the stories anymore because they don't want people
Speaker 7: get to hip on it, so they got to do
Speaker 7: it in increments and then you know, it's entertainment for
Speaker 7: people like that. That's why many people such such as myself,
Speaker 7: we watch the same shows over and over again. It's
Speaker 7: comfortable for us Like me, I like to watch the Simpsons,
Speaker 7: and I can see a lot of correlations with the
Speaker 7: Simpsons and how they're telling stories and stuff like that,
Speaker 7: and it's just interesting that, you know, everything is going
Speaker 7: back to trying to tell us what we had before
Speaker 7: without telling us that. You know, they don't want to
Speaker 7: just give it to people sometimes they want people to
Speaker 7: go out there and do their due diligence and stop
Speaker 7: taking word from somebody else. And you know, going in
Speaker 7: and you know, doing what you did, like you found
Speaker 7: that that petrified would you know now you have knowledge
Speaker 7: on what to look for and all.
Speaker 8: This other stuff.
Speaker 7: Like you said to the amateur eye, somebody would just
Speaker 7: walk right past it and it won't.
Speaker 8: Even take a second look at it.
Speaker 10: M yep.
Speaker 4: And this is just me, all right, This is just
Speaker 4: my opinion.
Speaker 10: But I just.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get the feeling when I see like the
Speaker 1: previous for the Disney movies, or the Superhero movie of
Speaker 1: the Week, or any of the movies coming out right now,
Speaker 1: even more of the rings. It seems like this is
Speaker 1: just me, But it seems like we have an ancestral
Speaker 1: memory of the way things used to be, and things
Speaker 1: used to be magical just across the boards, magical where
Speaker 1: people were used magic almost in their everyday life. Like
Speaker 1: it was nothing like all their books were esoteric. There
Speaker 1: were giants, there were little people who were witches and
Speaker 1: elves and wizards, and it's just like, is that how
Speaker 1: it used to be? That's what I mean.
Speaker 9: It makes me wonder if sometimes I couldn't agree with
Speaker 9: you more, say the best were a species with amnesia.
Speaker 6: Yes, do you know how obsessed people including myself got
Speaker 6: with the Harry Potter books. In movies, it's like you
Speaker 6: want to live in it, like you can't separate it
Speaker 6: from reality because it's it's like a dream.
Speaker 10: You want to be a part of Diaries and the
Speaker 10: Twilight series that.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people to do that. With
Speaker 1: Star Wars, I even into that. At one point in
Speaker 1: my life. I was obsessed with reading Star Wars novels.
Speaker 1: I just got so sucked into. I liked it better
Speaker 1: than reality.
Speaker 10: That's why we do entertainment. Our daily lives the point
Speaker 10: of entertainment.
Speaker 6: But it's, like Tim said, I think it's because we know,
Speaker 6: like it should be different for us, but we're stuck
Speaker 6: in like this slave society that you work, you come home,
Speaker 6: you go to sleep, you eat, you shit, and there's
Speaker 6: nothing magical at all about it, Like we're not having
Speaker 6: magical experience every day like we could be having.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's kind of the hero's journey that I always
Speaker 9: talk about. You know, when you read all these hero archetypes,
Speaker 9: what is it? It's a foundling. It's someone of great importance,
Speaker 9: but they don't know who they are. They've forgotten who
Speaker 9: they are. But then this why Sage comes forward and
Speaker 9: calls them to adventure. But then they have to step
Speaker 9: into the unknown, you know, and slay the drag and
Speaker 9: rescue the damsel and hoard up the treasure. I mean,
Speaker 9: that's the archetype of all these stories. And I tell people,
Speaker 9: you know, from my point of view is a Christian
Speaker 9: point of view. We are all on the hero's journey.
Speaker 9: And who are we that we've forgotten? We're children of God,
Speaker 9: and we we've forgotten who we are. And just like
Speaker 9: you said, I think if we look at the pre
Speaker 9: flood world and you read the Bible and all these
Speaker 9: other mythologies and stuff, there was giants, there was wizards,
Speaker 9: there was magic.
Speaker 8: This was a.
Speaker 9: Wild and crazy place. But it's it's no longer like
Speaker 9: that anymore. And like I agree with you, maybe all
Speaker 9: this entertainment and stories and novels are us, you know,
Speaker 9: even if it's subconsciously looking back to a time that
Speaker 9: was like that.
Speaker 1: And then I get real deep into this mound research,
Speaker 1: and I find that these people were pulling out well,
Speaker 1: first of all, there were mummies everywhere over here, so
Speaker 1: freaking mummies in Kentucky. But also al the mounds are
Speaker 1: pulling out magic wands, crystal balls and other you know,
Speaker 1: sham and masks and all kinds of other magical stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's like and then you got the giants and
Speaker 1: the little people. So it's like this is just straight
Speaker 1: up was Narnia and we're just we have a distant
Speaker 1: memory of it. Like Julia said, like this is things
Speaker 1: aren't how they should be because they're not how they
Speaker 1: used to be. We remember that as a species.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned mummies because the Spirit Cave
Speaker 7: mummy is the oldest mummy in the Americas, so that's
Speaker 7: actually it's actually found in Nevada, so that's actually interesting
Speaker 7: you brought that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I love the mummy stuff. They were there
Speaker 1: was such a mummy prop them that they were. There's
Speaker 1: the scout. There's something I read the other day that
Speaker 1: you know, I was reading in like an old book
Speaker 1: from the eighteen hundreds and they were talking about how
Speaker 1: there was a mummy crisis where all the mummies were
Speaker 1: being so people would find the mummy and then somebody
Speaker 1: would come in and steal their mummy so they could
Speaker 1: sell it to people over in Europe. So it's backwards.
Speaker 1: It's like you would think that we would be rich.
Speaker 1: People over here would be buying Egyptian mummies. No, people
Speaker 1: over there were buying mummies from US.
Speaker 6: I was like American mummies. Yes, yes, wow, like.
Speaker 1: What Tyrone's talking about.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they were Egyptians. That was in the Grand
Speaker 9: Canyon that the government set up a base. We're no
Speaker 9: longer allowed to go to.
Speaker 8: Interesting a wild Yeah, that's that's a lot of a
Speaker 8: lot of people.
Speaker 7: That's why a lot of people say that America's is
Speaker 7: the actual Bay Atlantis, because when the ice Age came
Speaker 7: over from every went back to Norman came or you know,
Speaker 7: the different times that the ice aated, they said that
Speaker 7: they found a lot of higher glyphs out there and
Speaker 7: artifacts of Egyptians over there. In Nick grand Kenyon, I've
Speaker 7: read that article, and I've also read articles that said
Speaker 7: that it's been debunked, and this, that and the third.
Speaker 7: But the thing is is that they hide things so
Speaker 7: well from us. It's amazing. And then when you look
Speaker 7: at the science symbols from Albert Church's book, a Churchwards book,
Speaker 7: he talks about the Masonic signs and all that stuff.
Speaker 7: We had a discussion about that prior, you know, in
Speaker 7: the past. Nick but the signs is what makes it different.
Speaker 7: You know, they have plenty of pictographic script here in America.
Speaker 7: They have something that's from the Shame dynasty that came
Speaker 7: over here, you know. So it's just interesting that we
Speaker 7: have there's evidence here, but for some odd reason, they
Speaker 7: want to hide it. And I truly don't understand why
Speaker 7: they want to hide it, because I don't think it
Speaker 7: would even make a difference at this point. At this point,
Speaker 7: everybody already pretty much knows about some kind of idea
Speaker 7: about it. But whether it's fact or fiction is something
Speaker 7: that they're turning into facts when they sit here and
Speaker 7: hide it, take it and destroy all the evidence and
Speaker 7: say they've never had it in the first place.
Speaker 6: Well, that would mean they'd have to admit to everybody
Speaker 6: that they've been through an mk fucking program from elementary
Speaker 6: school through college, that we've been completely lied to about
Speaker 6: every aspect of human history. Because the same thing, like
Speaker 6: what you're talking about with like the giants going all
Speaker 6: the way back into time, it's documented throughout all cultures.
Speaker 6: The same with vampire lore actually too, China, going all
Speaker 6: the way back to the Garden of Eden, with like Lilith,
Speaker 6: all that shit vampire lore and people are obsessed with vampires.
Speaker 6: They literally have found bodies in China with the heads
Speaker 6: cut off, bound up bodies like with cinderblocks weighing them down,
Speaker 6: with inscriptions that said, motherfucker came back to life and
Speaker 6: tried to eat my family rip and then like the
Speaker 6: name of the person, going all the way back into time.
Speaker 6: It's in Native American culture, it's in Egypt everywhere, and
Speaker 6: a lot of them were huge skeletons talking about rising
Speaker 6: back up out of the grave snacking on people's family.
Speaker 6: So I'm just saying it goes all the way back
Speaker 6: to the beginning of time. Motherfucker's literally rising up out
Speaker 6: of the grave and having to be decapitated, which goes
Speaker 6: along with my theory on why sometimes you only find
Speaker 6: a skull. It could be part of an alter situation.
Speaker 6: A lot of folk lore says that they would rise
Speaker 6: up after death and snack on people's family and that
Speaker 6: they had to be decappotato. So that might be why
Speaker 6: you're only finding the skull and not the rest of
Speaker 6: the skeleton. I'm just saying. In China they had a
Speaker 6: real problem with it. Apparently they had cinderblocks on top
Speaker 6: of the graves. They had all this stuff, they had
Speaker 6: a name for it, and oddly enough, it kind of
Speaker 6: intertwines with the spirit that they held responsible for sleep paralysis.
Speaker 6: So just saying there's like a hierarchy of weird entities,
Speaker 6: spirits that inhabited human bodies and shit, and yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean it's it's that's why you know, I'm pregnant right now.
Speaker 6: And when my kid comes home and they're like, oh,
Speaker 6: guess what I learned today, I'm gonna say, shit, nothing,
Speaker 6: you learned, zip, you learn zero, because it's all just lies.
Speaker 6: It's all lies.
Speaker 7: Was actually the first vampire according to the Spars. According
Speaker 7: to Samuel Noah Kramer, he's he actually says in his
Speaker 7: book that she is the first vampire or what is
Speaker 7: described as a vampire.
Speaker 8: He actually uses the word in his book.
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 6: That's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: With the analyte bloodlookers that were brought up earlier.
Speaker 4: Or whatever.
Speaker 7: It's crazy because I know I talk about that a
Speaker 7: lot of times to a lot of people about how
Speaker 7: Lilith is the first vampire, because I actually like the
Speaker 7: movie Blade and I actually learned that that timeframe when
Speaker 7: that movie came out, and the reason why I learned it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The reason why I learned how I came to learning
Speaker 7: about it was I was watching a documentary on it
Speaker 7: and I could never And when I got the chance
Speaker 7: to buy Samy and Noa. Kramer's book and read it
Speaker 7: for myself, I was like, okay, now that it makes sense,
Speaker 7: and you know, and I even tested it. I know
Speaker 7: a lot of people would like to go to Grock
Speaker 7: and Jack Gipt and look for their answers and stuff
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 8: So a lot of times what I like to do
Speaker 8: is take my books and see how accurate Jack Gipt
Speaker 8: would be towarded.
Speaker 7: So I actually asks Jack Gipt and ROCKI if Liveth
Speaker 7: is considered a vampire, and they'll say no, straight up no.
Speaker 7: But then I'll take a picture of the book, because
Speaker 7: you know, you can take the picture of the book
Speaker 7: and sending the Jack EBT and they'll analyze it and
Speaker 7: they'll say, Okay, yeah, I see what you're talking about.
Speaker 8: Actually took a picture of the.
Speaker 7: Book and the paragraph that I said it from from
Speaker 7: Samuel Noah Kramer, and it came back and said I
Speaker 7: guess so. And I was just like, see this and
Speaker 7: that's what's going to hurt a lot of people in
Speaker 7: the future is because people are gonna geting lazy and lazier.
Speaker 7: You know, back in the day, when you google something,
Speaker 7: you have to actually open up the article and read
Speaker 7: it for yourself. Now people are just rocking and chat
Speaker 7: EPT and getting a very quick answer on it, and
Speaker 7: they're not getting all the information they may want. So
Speaker 7: when somebody says, has there been giants find in the
Speaker 7: Grand Canyon or artifacts in the Grand Canyon, they'll read
Speaker 7: that it's been debunked, and this, that and the third,
Speaker 7: and they won't really find any real hard sources unless
Speaker 7: they go in there and asking give me a source
Speaker 7: for this, give me a source for that, give me
Speaker 7: a peer reviewed article on this, give me a peer
Speaker 7: reviewed article on that, give me the esoteric version of it,
Speaker 7: and so on and so forth. A lot of people
Speaker 7: are gonna skip all that hard work and just go
Speaker 7: straight to JAT, GPT and GROG and get the easiest
Speaker 7: answer they possibly can get.
Speaker 6: M That's how Mandela effects happened too, because they can
Speaker 6: just Google can just tell you anything. You can google
Speaker 6: something and it can say yeah, in nineteen ninety two, this, this, this,
Speaker 6: and it's like I know for a fact, that is
Speaker 6: not true, even though Google says that it is.
Speaker 5: Now chat GPT just gave me, like just spit out,
Speaker 5: probably like two pages about how Lilith Lovelith.
Speaker 4: Has been considered a family.
Speaker 8: You know what's so funny.
Speaker 1: Just told me it's like constantly updating itself too, yeah
Speaker 1: over the place.
Speaker 8: And I'll explain this.
Speaker 4: Use the free one.
Speaker 7: No no, no, no, this is this no, this is
Speaker 7: this is this is interesting because I would actually tell
Speaker 7: Jack GIPT and I've and I've looked at the terms
Speaker 7: and services. Once you tell it something and you can
Speaker 7: back it up, it keeps it in its memory break
Speaker 7: for everybody. So, like Tim says, it does update. And
Speaker 7: I know this for a fact, And I tell you
Speaker 7: the reason why. When I went to a local museum,
Speaker 7: I took a picture of a piece of paper about
Speaker 7: one of the slaves around here, and I went to
Speaker 7: go chat GPT and it said that the information was
Speaker 7: incorrect on there. Now I did this on a whole
Speaker 7: different account. Then I gave it the information. I showed
Speaker 7: the little paper and showed all the information that was
Speaker 7: on there, and it says, okay, it's going to update
Speaker 7: this thing. So I went onto a different account that
Speaker 7: had no correlations with anything on my I asked it
Speaker 7: the same thing and it gave the correct information after that.
Speaker 7: So I think a lot of times when you actually
Speaker 7: give it as sources because I like to plug, I
Speaker 7: like to take pictures of the book and the pages
Speaker 7: or whatever it is.
Speaker 8: I read it from even video.
Speaker 7: It will even analyze videos and it will say right
Speaker 7: there that in in terms of services, it will it
Speaker 7: does tell you and there that it updates it once
Speaker 7: it gets you know, verification on what you say. Now
Speaker 7: this can be the Wikipedia thing. You know, can somebody
Speaker 7: prove something that refute your information and chat gpt has
Speaker 7: to decide which one exaccurate in which one And that's
Speaker 7: when you can go to some of the article or
Speaker 7: sometimes they'll bring up YouTube videos or even Rumbo videos
Speaker 7: for you to read for or watch for yourself, and
Speaker 7: sometimes articles on top of that.
Speaker 8: So it's actually interesting how how simple it's getting.
Speaker 6: So you're saying I'm smarter than chat GPT.
Speaker 10: Probably because I.
Speaker 8: Look give it a test. I challenge everybody. I challenge
Speaker 8: everybody in here to do that. If you know something
Speaker 8: in your book, and you know something very well, go
Speaker 8: to chat GPT.
Speaker 7: You ask it and when it gives you an incorrect answer,
Speaker 7: take a picture of it and put it, plug it
Speaker 7: in there and see what it does. It would it
Speaker 7: will tell you that it's going to update this information.
Speaker 7: I've done it a few times, especially with the Samerian text.
Speaker 7: And the only reason why is because, Uh, it's a
Speaker 7: lot of the stuff that people know comes from Zachari Sitchen.
Speaker 7: You know, more people know about Zachari Sitchen than they
Speaker 7: know about Samuel Noah Kramer, or George Smith or Andrew
Speaker 7: George even right, or even Irving Finkel at that matter.
Speaker 7: They know more about uh sitching than those individuals. And
Speaker 7: those those individuals where ever, were able to actually give
Speaker 7: you the cutiform tablet identifiers for you to go read
Speaker 7: for yourself. So it's just interesting how it's getting to
Speaker 7: the point where you know the information is being processed
Speaker 7: and given to everybody in the mass.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Sitchon was a big fraud anyway, he was.
Speaker 7: That's why I see, That's why you know what, And
Speaker 7: that's so funny you say that because I actually created
Speaker 7: I'm creating a powerpoints presentation on how inaccurate he was,
Speaker 7: and I'm using the same sources that he tried to
Speaker 7: say that he had too, but I guess at this
Speaker 7: point he didn't really think people were going to do
Speaker 7: their due diligence. And what really messes up the game
Speaker 7: is not to throw shade on anybody, but Billy Carson
Speaker 7: actually follows a lot with Sitchyen says too, And you
Speaker 7: can't find any of the information that uh Sitchen says.
Speaker 7: It's really funny because doctor Michael as Hyatra actually created
Speaker 7: a website Stitching is.
Speaker 10: Wrong to show you how that called him out every
Speaker 10: time for a debate.
Speaker 8: He could not.
Speaker 10: Not only he called him out, his website was caught.
Speaker 7: Sitching is wrong, Like this dude had a real beef
Speaker 7: with Sitching in his incorrect information that he went and
Speaker 7: bought a web site created it.
Speaker 6: Sitching is so rightfully so because he is a big fraud.
Speaker 6: I was thinking it and then Doc said it, but yeah.
Speaker 1: He uh heiser r I p Heiser, yeah Heiser.
Speaker 9: I mean he was a scholar in many ancient dead languages,
Speaker 9: so I mean this was his field. And so he
Speaker 9: had this schmuck with no degrees, no college education coming
Speaker 9: out and saying he's deciphered all these things and come
Speaker 9: up with these new translations and so yeah, Mike was
Speaker 9: trying to call him out and expose him as a
Speaker 9: fraul because that was his expertise. That's what he went
Speaker 9: to school and studied for years. But Zachari said, you
Speaker 9: wouldn't have nothing to do with him. Mikey went on
Speaker 9: coast to coast am and called him out.
Speaker 1: And that's why yep, challenge to a debate too.
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, yeah, he called them out.
Speaker 8: He told him to give him just the cuneiform tablet identifiers.
Speaker 7: That's why you always would hear me say cuneiform tablet identifiers,
Speaker 7: because there's actually a website that we can all go
Speaker 7: to and look at the cuneiform uh uh tablets ourselves.
Speaker 7: It's called the Cuniform Digital Library of Initiative. And I'm
Speaker 7: telling you I learned all this from doctor Michael as He.
Speaker 7: That's why I was telling Doc Brown earlier. One thing
Speaker 7: about me is I have to have the sources on hand.
Speaker 7: So if you're saying a source says something, I should
Speaker 7: be able to read that same exact source you did.
Speaker 7: If you're telling me there's no source for it then
Speaker 7: and it's your own translation, then how can I basically
Speaker 7: verify your information.
Speaker 8: I'm just supposed to trust it.
Speaker 7: Well, trusting is what got me in the problem in
Speaker 7: the first place, because if this is actual facts and
Speaker 7: no fiction at all, this information should be easily accessible
Speaker 7: to anybody. But you know, since you know, he really
Speaker 7: did hide a lot of stuff. And I've read his
Speaker 7: books and I know he says that he didn't want
Speaker 7: to expose some or tell on some of the people
Speaker 7: that helped him get some of the information, and this,
Speaker 7: that and the third. But he never recreated the tablets himself.
Speaker 7: You know, it's so easy to recreat him. He doesn't
Speaker 7: have to take that actual picture of it. But there's
Speaker 7: no picture of it, no recreation or nothing, no artist
Speaker 7: drawing or any of that stuff. So it's just you know,
Speaker 7: I really do like this conversation you me. I think
Speaker 7: we got a lot in common. I'm definitely gonna stay
Speaker 7: in contact because.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I love good conversation. Holler at me anytime, man.
Speaker 6: I love working with Doc Brown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always it's always a good time with the duck. Yo.
Speaker 5: Man, Man, thank you very much for coming on, bro.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it, especially in such a short notice
Speaker 5: of this. Hell yeah, hell yeah, you know. It was
Speaker 5: just like really, it was just I wanted to get
Speaker 5: you on sooner than later because I don't want to
Speaker 5: keep putting it off. It's been too long already.
Speaker 4: So and I know you're also a busy man, so
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I do have today. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, let me just fucking jump on that.
Speaker 5: Because it could be like a month and a half
Speaker 5: and I want to wait. So but I really had
Speaker 5: a good time. Thank you everybody else too for joining us.
Speaker 5: Doc before we have you plug your stuff, Juliet. Let
Speaker 5: everybody know where you can find your show at we
Speaker 5: get in touch with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Actually, if you want to work with me or have
Speaker 6: me on your show, I don't really get on Instagram
Speaker 6: in that inbox, so email me at ghost dot peach
Speaker 6: at outlook dot com. Love working with Doc. I think
Speaker 6: this is like the third or fourth time we have
Speaker 6: had a conversation. It's always super interesting. I super enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Of course, No, thank you for coming on and Tyrone
Speaker 4: what is going on?
Speaker 9: So Hi?
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, thank you man.
Speaker 7: This is a good thing. I got to tell you
Speaker 7: that told you earlier. Man, I think we have a
Speaker 7: lot in common man, I was really following what you
Speaker 7: were saying. Everything you can find on me is rebirth
Speaker 7: oft theWord dot com is my own website. I have
Speaker 7: YouTube you'll feel to see all that through my website.
Speaker 7: You also can buy my book Journey through the Origins
Speaker 7: of History, which when number one on Amazon Bestsellers, so
Speaker 7: check that out.
Speaker 12: Like I said, Doc, you on it, man, I like
Speaker 12: the information. Thanks, Nick, appreciate it of course. Hell yeah,
Speaker 12: thank you, thank you for coming on. And we got
Speaker 12: Tim Constantine what is going on? So please let everybody
Speaker 12: where they can find your stuff again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks again, thanks Julia, doc Nick Tyrone Fear. I
Speaker 1: don't know you, but cool cond cool comments there. I
Speaker 1: read some of your stuff. Uh yeah, Tim Constein's sixth
Speaker 1: Sensory Podcast. I'm actually dropping an episode with Doc tonight
Speaker 1: on YouTube and then tomorrow on Cult of Conspiracy. I'm
Speaker 1: dropping an episode with Doc as well. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: sixth Sensory Podcasts.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, all right, Oh thank you, Tim,
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Sorry, I sent the link late my bed,
Speaker 5: so yes, and uh, fear Fear, We're gonna see if
Speaker 5: you can let you plug yourself. Unfortunately I sent him
Speaker 5: to link late too, so fear can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Do you want to say you want to plug yourself?
Speaker 5: Do you want to say anything?
Speaker 13: Absolutely, I don't know if anybody can hear me, so
Speaker 13: let's just give this a shot.
Speaker 10: But yeah, I'm still working on the cookbook right now.
Speaker 13: I'm trying to raise funds for a camera, so a
Speaker 13: proper camera so I could take the images. But yeah,
Speaker 13: be on the lookout for disobedience. I'm sorry I couldn't
Speaker 13: quite jump up on the mic earlier. I did share
Speaker 13: all my information inside the chat, so like, if anyone's
Speaker 13: interested in what I had to share, you can anyone
Speaker 13: go look in there. I'm sure that it's going to
Speaker 13: be logged. Thank you for having me on. I know
Speaker 13: I just kind of looked like I was sitting here,
Speaker 13: but the only way I could participate was at least
Speaker 13: put the information out there in chat.
Speaker 10: And I'm happy to do that. But thank you everyone,
Speaker 10: and great conversation.
Speaker 13: By the way, and yeah, there's a lot that I
Speaker 13: really would love to comment in there, but that's going
Speaker 13: to be for like separate conversations.
Speaker 10: However, again, thank you, and this has been a.
Speaker 5: Blast, of course, Thank you sir. Sorry about your connection.
Speaker 5: Hopefully by the next time we get you on it
Speaker 5: will be working a lot better. But h, I appreciate
Speaker 5: you trying to jump on anyway. I mean, it was
Speaker 5: my idea. I was like, fuck it, let's see what happens.
Speaker 5: I was like, if anything just showed off the camera,
Speaker 5: but still didn't help. But for people who do watch
Speaker 5: the videos and check the live replay, he did throw
Speaker 5: tons and tons of stuff up in that chat. He
Speaker 5: wasn't lying, so go check that out. And now finally, Doc,
Speaker 5: please h Like, like I said, you brought the heat.
Speaker 5: You brought it with ninety three octane.
Speaker 4: That's what's up.
Speaker 10: Ninety three all the way, baby, my man.
Speaker 4: So please let everybody know where they can find you
Speaker 4: out sir.
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Speaker 4: I like that, dude. I'm definitely gonna sign up for
Speaker 4: that newsletter. That's what's up, doc.
Speaker 5: Thank you again, man, Like I said, you always, you know,
Speaker 5: you always bring tons and tons of info. I appreciate
Speaker 5: you jumping on so fast, and you know, everybody else,
Speaker 5: thank you for joining. It was really a great show
Speaker 5: or some chats, tons of stuff that I didn't know
Speaker 5: anything about. And that's what's up. Everybody in the chat,
Speaker 5: thank you. There was a lot of people here again
Speaker 5: from the beginning to the end, and a lot of
Speaker 5: great stuff added in there as well. And that is
Speaker 5: end of the end of another Occult Rejects and until
Speaker 5: the next one. Want everybody be well.
Speaker 14: M anxiety keep on trying me feel it, quietly, trying
Speaker 14: to silence me. My anxiety can shake, get off from me.
Speaker 14: Somebody's watching me and my anxiety