Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of The High Strangers Factor, copyrighted
Speaker 1: on the Paranormal UK Radio Network. I am Steve Ward
Speaker 1: along with Annie Mercer and Susie Bastile. The High Stranger
Speaker 1: Factor has been around about seven years. Tonight we are
Speaker 1: celebrating the seventh anniversary. We think it's the seventh anniversary, anyway,
Speaker 1: we could stand. We stand corrected. Before we introduce our
Speaker 1: guest co host and our special guests, Andy, catch us
Speaker 1: up with what's going on with you when you're a
Speaker 1: publishing company.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's going rather well. My most a bit of
Speaker 2: time since you had a last shown. Since that, I've
Speaker 2: had a book out which has sold out real quickly,
Speaker 2: which is rather and just working on the next one now,
Speaker 2: so that's given me quite busy. The last one was
Speaker 2: on ancient Greek magic. This one's on a manuscript that's
Speaker 2: published in the eighteen hundreds that's been I am transcribing
Speaker 2: it from although in English it's handwritten so it's not
Speaker 2: incredibly clear in places, into a much more modern.
Speaker 1: Form so it's easy to read. So that's the currently
Speaker 1: one working on.
Speaker 2: I spoke at a conference a couple weeks back which
Speaker 2: was on the occult in glaston Bringing my favorite place,
Speaker 2: so that went down really rather well. Pleased with that,
Speaker 2: so keep me quite busy. We've had some weather here
Speaker 2: which dud if you guys have heard about. It's the
Speaker 2: West Country of England. It rained almost constantly for nearly
Speaker 2: two months every day through flooding rains a lot here
Speaker 2: anywhere in the West Country, but this was excessive and
Speaker 2: we had roads closed, people's homes flooded, entire fields and
Speaker 2: lakes just with rain on them.
Speaker 1: Because part of Somerset.
Speaker 2: Is very much sea level it so of course any
Speaker 2: heavy rainfall tends to stay on the surface, so it
Speaker 2: was but it's particularly bad.
Speaker 1: So are you maintaining water tight and techerty in your home?
Speaker 2: Fortunately we're on a slight hill so here actual house
Speaker 2: is absolutely fine, but not very far away a matter
Speaker 2: of a couple hundred yards is an area called North
Speaker 2: that has had flooding problems in the past and it
Speaker 2: wasn't too bad this time, but there was days when
Speaker 2: the road was just underwater, which so it's pretty unusual.
Speaker 2: So it's been an interesting time all around.
Speaker 3: But I was pretty much stuck at home because I
Speaker 3: don't drive, so my transport is the local bus, and
Speaker 3: that was temporarily canceled for about three weeks because of
Speaker 3: the weather because the whole area of the road had
Speaker 3: flooded and it's one road, but to go around it
Speaker 3: in the past would have had another hours of the
Speaker 3: journey time. So unfore she counted the bus at the
Speaker 3: time being so a bit annoying, but thankfully I've had
Speaker 3: a few days of sunshine.
Speaker 1: It does actually feel like spring now.
Speaker 2: It's been sunny here, tenderly suns up.
Speaker 1: So it definitely feels like it's movie to spring at
Speaker 1: a lot. That's good. So do you have any books
Speaker 1: out where you can turn somebody into a newt.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the books working on he Doesntain and
Speaker 2: spells in the fifteen hundreds that may include something along
Speaker 2: those lines.
Speaker 4: Don't you never know?
Speaker 1: That could be handy at all. Anyway, Susie tell us
Speaker 1: about how people can contact you and if you have
Speaker 1: any projects going on.
Speaker 5: So you can contact me on the new moon by
Speaker 5: going into a swamp at midnight and saying my name
Speaker 5: three times and bringing and offering. As for projects, I
Speaker 5: have been knowed in and or sick all winter, so
Speaker 5: I've been working on my remote viewing skills, ah, which
Speaker 5: I am forcing my child to help me with. Also,
Speaker 5: he so far hasn't had me committed, so it's going well.
Speaker 1: Very good. And now we can introduce our guest co host.
Speaker 1: He's known as the Creature Seeker, which of course is
Speaker 1: a pseudonym. I don't think it's not his birth certificate.
Speaker 1: And the reason is that he's not trying to be mysterious.
Speaker 1: He's actually trying to stay one or two steps ahead
Speaker 1: of the law. And I'm here tonight I'm going to
Speaker 1: reveal his real name. His real name is Rolo Tamasi,
Speaker 1: so just keep that in mind anyway. Creature Seeker, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the High Strangers Factor. You've been here as
Speaker 1: a guest co host before and as a full fledged guest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve. Nice to see you
Speaker 6: folks again. Susie and Andy. Yeah, I have been here
Speaker 6: a couple of times, and coincidentally, none of those appearances
Speaker 6: have actually ever been published for some reason.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, Wait a minute, you had several
Speaker 1: several published here. Okay, man, you got the check on
Speaker 1: the mail right. Maybe perhaps I misspoke. I won one
Speaker 1: appearance published, so I feel very fortunate to be once
Speaker 1: again in your company, and I'm talking about Andy and
Speaker 1: Suzie of course. Well, but I'm here to thank you
Speaker 1: again once again for saving my tuk us when the
Speaker 1: other night my computer, my computer that's on its last legs,
Speaker 1: went completely wacky. I sent you and Andy images about what
Speaker 1: was going on, and you spent what two or three
Speaker 1: hours taking command of my computer and actually getting it
Speaker 1: to work again.
Speaker 6: It was actually three hours and seventeen minutes, but who's counting.
Speaker 6: That's what's reflected on my bill.
Speaker 1: So I offer that I don't have any I've had
Speaker 1: plumbing issues again. I'm going to have to I'll have
Speaker 1: to take out a loan to pay your bill. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: So now let's introduce our guests. Brian and Terry Seech
Speaker 1: have been married since nineteen eighty five and researching the paranormal,
Speaker 1: and I've explained for just as long. Brian's interest started
Speaker 1: at the age of ten when he saw a documentary
Speaker 1: on TV called The Mysterious Monsters, which dealt with Bigfoot
Speaker 1: and the Locknest Monster. When he worked for a local retailer,
Speaker 1: He went to lunch one day with a friend Dave,
Speaker 1: and the subject turned to UFOs Dave then explained about
Speaker 1: his low level encounter. In the nineteen sixties, Brian decided
Speaker 1: to form a research and study group on all Things
Speaker 1: Unexplained and Paranormal Q the Center for Unexplained Events. He
Speaker 1: would become Brian and Terry's passion from then on. Terry's
Speaker 1: interest started in the nineteen seventies watching documentaries on TV
Speaker 1: about UFOs in Bigfoot and having her own ghost experiences
Speaker 1: as a teenager and young adult. Along with UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: her passion to read and learn about the paranormal and
Speaker 1: unexplained as well as natural healing, homeopathy, aromatherapy, crystal healing, yoga, spirituality,
Speaker 1: and world religions. She has also learned Riki one and two.
Speaker 1: Brian has dubbed their files the Siege Files, the s Files,
Speaker 1: and their home the Siege Triangle because a lot of
Speaker 1: things have disappeared over the years, never to be seen again,
Speaker 1: and it never happened while I was visiting. I want
Speaker 1: that clear. Brian has appeared on Monsters and Mysteries in
Speaker 1: America and has been featured on the independent independent film
Speaker 1: Mountain Devil, The Search for Frank Peterson, was an extra
Speaker 1: in The Mothband Prophecies movie filmed in the Pittsburgh area
Speaker 1: Huh I Didn't Know That, and has appeared on various
Speaker 1: internet radio shows. He also, along with Terry, has been
Speaker 1: featured on the awesome podcast The High Strangers Factor several times.
Speaker 1: Brian has also co written articles for the Creature Chronicles
Speaker 1: column in the Hancock County Courier in West Virginia. From
Speaker 1: August through November twenty thirteen. He was also co instructor
Speaker 1: for the first ever cryptozoology class at Eastern Gateway College
Speaker 1: in Steubenville, Ohio. Their own group, the Center for Unexplained Events,
Speaker 1: holds meetings locally in Beaver County, Pennsylvania, and CCS Center
Speaker 1: for Cryptozoological Studies, formed in twenty twelve. The most recent
Speaker 1: endeavor is a project named LAE Light Anomaly Exploration, started
Speaker 1: in May twenty nineteen, which researchers and explores the light
Speaker 1: anomalies that have been reported over the years. Both Brian
Speaker 1: and Terry co sponsored the Butler Paranormal Conference and the
Speaker 1: volunteer for the Creature Weekend event. They sponsored the Beaver
Speaker 1: Valley PERCN Rochester, Pennsylvania. They are members of the KBP
Speaker 1: Keystone Bigfoot Project BO ru Butler Organization for Research on
Speaker 1: the Unexplained and our former field investigators for Newfon the
Speaker 1: Mutual UFO Network. Terry was also a state section director
Speaker 1: for MUFON, covering eight northwest counties of Pennsylvania and belonged
Speaker 1: to a group called CRC Consciousness Raising Club whose goal
Speaker 1: it is to raise human awareness consciousness globally. It is
Speaker 1: about becoming enlightened human beings and creating a better Earth.
Speaker 1: The Center for Unexplained Events is now celebrating its fortieth year.
Speaker 1: Brian and Terry, welcome back to the heist rangis factor.
Speaker 4: Glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve, thanks for being here to celebrate our
Speaker 1: whatever the anniversary is, sixth seventh, Who cares? But it's
Speaker 1: great to have some longevity. So I'm going to have
Speaker 1: to ask, how long have you guys known the creature Seeker?
Speaker 1: How long will we admit to knowing him?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 4: When was the first time we met you down at
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot conference? First? You remember what year?
Speaker 6: I want to say it was in the early two thousands,
Speaker 6: right it was?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, it's been more than a decade at least.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, it's over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, at least at least That's what I recall.
Speaker 1: So what were your first impressions?
Speaker 4: Bruce?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Bruce, you guys what you know, what was
Speaker 1: the you know, how did you how did you size
Speaker 1: him up?
Speaker 4: No, Bruce, not Bruce.
Speaker 8: Creature Seeker.
Speaker 4: Oh I mean yeah, yeah that yeah, yeah, creature Seeker.
Speaker 1: H rolls.
Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, Creature Seeker was always very nice
Speaker 4: to us. He came up and talk to my you know,
Speaker 4: Terry and I later on David, Dave and Carrie Rupert
Speaker 4: and uh, always very friendly. Helped out Don keating for
Speaker 4: the first couple of years, and just yeah, we liked them.
Speaker 4: We hit it off with them right away.
Speaker 1: How long have you guys been in West Virginia now?
Speaker 8: Four years last August?
Speaker 1: Is uh? Is West Virginia a better sort of a
Speaker 1: hot spot to uh to investigate this type of phenomena
Speaker 1: than it was in Pennsylvania? Or Is there any difference?
Speaker 4: Not much difference, Not much difference. It's it's a lot
Speaker 4: harder to research here because we're there's there's hills and
Speaker 4: cliffs and mountains here. It's it's called the Mountain State
Speaker 4: for a reason. We're literally only seven miles from the
Speaker 4: PA border. In What about a half hour from where
Speaker 4: we used to live. We do some hikes and things
Speaker 4: like that with our friends Jeff and Scott down here,
Speaker 4: and of course, you know, we did some things with Fred,
Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately passed away in December. So now we've
Speaker 4: kind of taken over the rains here. It's a lot
Speaker 4: harder to research here for sure. But you know, we're
Speaker 4: in a we're in an area we call tri State Triangle.
Speaker 4: We're if you look at a map, anclock County is
Speaker 4: the smallest county in West Virginia, and it actually we
Speaker 4: say that we're on the tip of the middle finger
Speaker 4: of West Virginia if you want, if you watch West Virginia,
Speaker 4: we're between West Pa and Pa and Ohio watching to
Speaker 4: live down here. It's why we came down here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely is. I I was at the Mofman
Speaker 1: Statue one day, you know, taking pictures of people, and
Speaker 1: I always ask people where they're from. And the one guy, he, uh,
Speaker 1: he said from here. He flipped the bird at me.
Speaker 1: Then he realized, oh, wait a minute, maybe this guy
Speaker 1: isn't from West Virginia, doesn't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, I know all about the middle finger,
Speaker 1: so he thought maybe he uh, you know, disrespected me
Speaker 1: for a few minutes.
Speaker 6: I think when I first met Steve, I flipped him
Speaker 6: the finger as well. So I think there may be
Speaker 6: some sort of pattern merging here.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was gonna say that story for
Speaker 1: about halfway through the show, but maybe we should talk
Speaker 1: about one time when all of us were together and
Speaker 1: it was on the Mothman hay Ride and many stories
Speaker 1: have come up about that and they're not all accurate.
Speaker 1: Now No, Well, first off, Brian and Terry talk about
Speaker 1: the Butler Paranormal Event. Do you know if there's going
Speaker 1: to be another one? It was some question as to
Speaker 1: whether Dan was going to have another Dan Hagman, who
Speaker 1: runs the paranormal event usually in the spring in Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: do you think there'll be another one?
Speaker 7: Was of right now there isn't the venue where he
Speaker 7: had it at for the past what eighteen nineteen years?
Speaker 7: The building recently sold. Okay, he was looking for another place.
Speaker 7: So as of right now, there's we haven't heard anything.
Speaker 4: You know, that could change tomorrow, but as of right
Speaker 4: this minute.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's always a good event. I mean, it's a Saturday,
Speaker 1: it's always been affordable. He's always had a different lineup
Speaker 1: of speakers. Even all of us have spoken their creature secret.
Speaker 1: Did you ever actually speak there?
Speaker 6: I don't think I actually was a speaker at that
Speaker 6: event ever, but I did. I did frequent the the podium, no,
Speaker 6: the food truck a lot.
Speaker 1: So well. I remember you would get up there to
Speaker 1: advertise the upcoming Creature weekend and and sometimes you would
Speaker 1: harass people. You know, you were kind of like the
Speaker 1: the Don Rickles of the Butler paranormal event. And I
Speaker 1: remember Doug Waller, who self publishes his own big Foot books.
Speaker 1: You were up there one time. Doug had just come
Speaker 1: out with a new book, and Creature Seekers up there saying, hey, hey, Doug,
Speaker 1: how why do those margins in that book two inches
Speaker 1: on each side? And then he said, and what was
Speaker 1: your what was your publisher? Again?
Speaker 6: Xerox, I do remember that, Steve No So you know Doug, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, he's from Ohio and he had, you know,
Speaker 6: he published a couple of books. In the book that
Speaker 6: he was sort of promoting. In my opinion, was was
Speaker 6: kind of thin. It was kind of it's more like
Speaker 6: a pamphlet. And uh, even though even though it was bound.
Speaker 6: I think it could have easily have been held together
Speaker 6: with staples. But that's just look, that's I was just
Speaker 6: giving him a hard time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy, though, Doug. Pardon, he's a really
Speaker 1: good guy. Gug. I mean, we're ripping on him, but
Speaker 1: he's Doug Waller is a really good guy. He was
Speaker 1: a good sport about it at the time.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, I was given a hard time about,
Speaker 6: you know, the the thought being very large, his margins
Speaker 6: being very wide, and you know the fact that you know,
Speaker 6: it was more of a brochure than a book.
Speaker 4: So I'll stick up for Doug. He's had, I believe,
Speaker 4: five books. They're all very very good, very well written,
Speaker 4: and tell of bigfoot encounters in not just Ohio but
Speaker 4: nearby PA and even in West Virginia down here in
Speaker 4: that weir.
Speaker 1: And and he does a lot of personal research himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not just rehashing stuff. So anyway, my first I
Speaker 1: can't remember what year it was, but my first Butler
Speaker 1: paranormal conference, I met Brian and Terry and a few
Speaker 1: of the people, and they knew the vibe was was bigfoot.
Speaker 1: You know, they like, if they ever thought about Mothman.
Speaker 1: He was an afterthought. So here I am at the
Speaker 1: at the Mothman Festival, and I'm the I had started
Speaker 1: doing the tour, one of the tours in there, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching people lining up. I see Brian and Terry
Speaker 1: and a few other people I thought I recognized from Butler.
Speaker 1: So I thought, all right, I've got bigfooters on board.
Speaker 1: So they get on. Everybody gets on board on the cart,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm going to have some fun. So
Speaker 1: the first thing I said, well, you know, the only
Speaker 1: legitimate paranormal researchers are Mothman researchers. Bigfoot researchers are a
Speaker 1: bunch of backbencher wannabes trying to work their way up.
Speaker 1: That's a paraphrase something like that. And Bruce had and
Speaker 1: Creature Seeker is sitting right next to me, okay, and
Speaker 1: so everybody had kind of a good Actually, Dave Rupert
Speaker 1: was looking right at me, and you know, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know David all that time. It was another really
Speaker 1: good guy and gentle as a lamb, right, but he
Speaker 1: looked like maybe he was thinking about do I hit
Speaker 1: him now or do I wait? You know, when it's
Speaker 1: darker out on a dark alley or something. Anyway, everybody
Speaker 1: had kind of a good laugh on that. And I
Speaker 1: said to Bruce, I said to the creek, I said
Speaker 1: to Rolo TOMASI I said, uh, I said, it's pretty funny. Huh,
Speaker 1: I recognize so and so and so ino And he said, Steve,
Speaker 1: the whole cart was full of Bigfoot research. So I insulted.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people and one fell swoot.
Speaker 1: But the good news is they most of them came
Speaker 1: back the next year to be insulted again. So it
Speaker 1: worked out pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, prior to prior to that event, we had all
Speaker 6: sort of organized and agreed that we would all meet
Speaker 6: at the same time to you know, to go on
Speaker 6: that hay ride. And so it just happened that we were,
Speaker 6: you know, most of us were Bigfoot researchers, and of
Speaker 6: course Steve, with his ultimate timing, chose to uh, you know,
Speaker 6: basically uh insults a whole wagon full of researchers at
Speaker 6: one times.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, even though he insulted us every year we've gone back,
Speaker 7: we always waited for Steve's wagon to come around to
Speaker 7: get on with him.
Speaker 1: That's kind of some kind of psychological self punishment thing,
Speaker 1: probably right.
Speaker 4: To ste and we always don't. We always chant your
Speaker 4: name before you come, come to we all, you know, Steve, Steve, Steve.
Speaker 1: It could be, it could be. And then there was
Speaker 1: the year that we I guess maybe it was the
Speaker 1: same year we went by where John and Tim Frick
Speaker 1: the Mothman they hide behind the old acid plant. They
Speaker 1: run the Mothman mannequin thing that they hooked up down
Speaker 1: a wire off one of these structures, one of the
Speaker 1: old structures there. They have this ingenious low tech hand
Speaker 1: crank delivery system. They light up his eyes with battery
Speaker 1: power and they blast a sound effect from a someplace
Speaker 1: I can't say because they've never paid royalties. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so they did that and we're all but we were chanting.
Speaker 1: I think it was God who was there, the guy
Speaker 1: that a Creatures Secret used to be your co host
Speaker 1: on subsquash. He said, we got to say something, you know,
Speaker 1: So we were yelling freakin' frack freakin' Fred at the
Speaker 1: top of our lungs. And then Bigfoot Phil was there
Speaker 1: and he does a perfect woody woodpecker. So after that,
Speaker 1: I said, Phil, woody woodpecker. So he belts out this
Speaker 1: perfect woody woodpecker that probably went all over the county. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of fun we have at the Moth
Speaker 1: Band Festival.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're talking about Phil Brocco. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: Bigfoot Phil. Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah. Phil's a good guy.
Speaker 6: I spoke to him fairly recently, actually last week. I
Speaker 6: think he's still doing research and he's still kicking around.
Speaker 6: This guy, uh is fearless. So there is a section
Speaker 6: of Salt Fork State Park. It's called the Hossacks Cave
Speaker 6: and it's an area of high strangeness because people have
Speaker 6: heard disembodied voices. There have been several deaths over at
Speaker 6: Hosacks Cave over the years because you know, people will
Speaker 6: climb up to the top of the cave and it's
Speaker 6: extremely slippery and that's where the waterfall goes over the
Speaker 6: cave and then you lose your footing and there's no
Speaker 6: there's nothing you can grab onto. It's just all mossy
Speaker 6: and rock and smooth, you know, over you know, thousands
Speaker 6: of years of that water going up the rock and
Speaker 6: people plumme it to their deaths about you know, sixty
Speaker 6: feet below. But Phil Broco, you know, so we'd be
Speaker 6: out there and he would just pull out a a
Speaker 6: launch air. He was like, oh, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: I'm going to sleep here tonight. And I'm like, Phil,
Speaker 6: are you sure you want to do that? I mean
Speaker 6: it's like forty degrees out. He's like, no, No, I'm good.
Speaker 6: I'm good. And he you know, he does that a lot.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he researches too, a lot in by the
Speaker 4: Mogador Reservoir and up by Berlin Lake, up and towards
Speaker 4: northern Ohio too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So are we going to have another Creature Weekend?
Speaker 1: Do you think? You know that?
Speaker 6: That's always the question when we post on the Creature
Speaker 6: Weekend Facebook page. And all I can say is you
Speaker 6: never can tell Steve.
Speaker 1: And for those that don't know that, the Creature Weekend
Speaker 1: is held at Saltfort State Park. And what's the town
Speaker 1: of Cambridge is closer fairly close to Cambridge, Ohio, right
Speaker 1: where I seventy and seventy seven come together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's right at the intersection of seventeen seventy seven there.
Speaker 6: And you know, for years we've we've always had that
Speaker 6: event at Saltport State Park.
Speaker 1: It's not to say we may not switch it up.
Speaker 6: But you know, I get invitations to move that event
Speaker 6: to other parts of the state, other parts of the
Speaker 6: country even and you know, the logistics, you know, we
Speaker 6: have to work out. But people, really we have a
Speaker 6: great following, and it's really because of the volunteers. You know,
Speaker 6: Brian and Terry are one of the volunteers, are some
Speaker 6: of the volunteers, and you know, all the volunteers. They
Speaker 6: work really really hard to make that a really special
Speaker 6: event for the attendees and the result is that it's
Speaker 6: really gained a huge following and it's really hard to
Speaker 6: even post anything on the Facebook page without somebody inquiring about, hey,
Speaker 6: when when's the next Spreach weekend. And that's really that's
Speaker 6: really due to the hard work of our volunteers like
Speaker 6: Brian and Terry and our speakers, uh you know, who've
Speaker 6: really really made that event what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, you've always had a good lineup of a speaker,
Speaker 1: some very very famous ones, and you always have extra events.
Speaker 1: I mean, uhh, who was the bigfoot researcher that just
Speaker 1: passed that taught people how to properly cast a footprint? Oh,
Speaker 1: doctor Meltram, doctor doctor Jeffrey Meldrim, yeah, you had falconers
Speaker 1: in there one time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did that was that was pretty speciful. We
Speaker 6: had we had a local falconer group come in and
Speaker 6: they had the you know, their birds of prey and
Speaker 6: people could you know, sort of get up close to
Speaker 6: them and that was really that was really cool.
Speaker 1: We also had.
Speaker 6: A a contest formentary school kids, uh in Guernsey County
Speaker 6: and so all these schools participated in this Bigfoot contest
Speaker 6: where they would draw big Foot and we posted it
Speaker 6: up in the hallway and I think Briand and Terry
Speaker 6: you remember you remember uh judging that event and we
Speaker 6: had the our teachers from a couple of the schools
Speaker 6: join us, and it was a really it was a
Speaker 6: really fun event. And uh it was really fun to
Speaker 6: see the you know, the kids drawings, and you know
Speaker 6: some of them were you know, really really I thought,
Speaker 6: really great. So I think that all the kids did
Speaker 6: a great job. And that was one of the things
Speaker 6: that I remember very vividly, was it was that drawing contest.
Speaker 6: I mean, what you think about it, Brian and Terry
Speaker 6: when you judged it, Oh.
Speaker 4: That was was fun. It was fun and everybody enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: It was really cool and a different thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you you have a lot of sort
Speaker 1: of extracurricular activities. One night, you had some poor sap
Speaker 1: and a bigfoot suit wandering along in the woods, and
Speaker 1: you had a whole line of people going out there.
Speaker 1: You had uh uh, you had I think you had
Speaker 1: knocks going on and uh anyway, like like a real
Speaker 1: bigfoot encounter, people had to accurately uh cover exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on. And I think maybe it's even see
Speaker 1: if they could get a photograph of the bigfoot. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but you had go. Yeah, Steve.
Speaker 6: So one of the you know, one of the the
Speaker 6: big criticisms of cryptozoological research is that why why don't
Speaker 6: we have a photograph? You know, people ask, well, if
Speaker 6: you know, if these things are out there, we should
Speaker 6: there should be more photographic evidence.
Speaker 1: And so what we wanted to do.
Speaker 6: Is highly how difficult it is to actually get a
Speaker 6: clear photograph and also how difficult it is, based on
Speaker 6: the witnesses to accurately uh identified you know, the distance,
Speaker 6: the size, and so we had it was kind of
Speaker 6: a contest. So we took people out into the woods
Speaker 6: and we every year we had this thing called the
Speaker 6: Lantern Tour, which Brian and Terry we were a part of,
Speaker 6: and you know, we take people out onto this uh
Speaker 6: this short it's a short trail. It's kind of a loop,
Speaker 6: but there's a trail. There had been you know, bigfoot
Speaker 6: sightings and it was in total pitch black dark. And
Speaker 6: then we'd go on the trail and there would be
Speaker 6: a person with a with a lantern in the group
Speaker 6: would assemble around that person. They would talk about a
Speaker 6: siding that happened on the trail. And we had you know,
Speaker 6: five or six stops along that along that trail. But
Speaker 6: one year we decided to have Billy dress up in
Speaker 6: a gilly suit and he would just randomly run out
Speaker 6: in front of the crowd and and their tasks and
Speaker 6: they were told beforehand that this was not you know
Speaker 6: that this wasn't but they were told to expect a
Speaker 6: person in the guilty suitt to run out and their
Speaker 6: task was to one get a photograph of the person
Speaker 6: in the gilly suit as they ran across their field
Speaker 6: of view. And two, when they came back to the lodge,
Speaker 6: they had to fill out a questionnaire you know, how
Speaker 6: far how far did you you know was the creature
Speaker 6: from you, how tall do you think the creature was?
Speaker 6: And you know, we got as you can imagine from
Speaker 6: all the people who went out there, the answers were
Speaker 6: all over the place, but there were a couple that
Speaker 6: were right on the mark, right almost almost down to
Speaker 6: the inch about how tall the person was, which was
Speaker 6: pretty impressive. But for the most part, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: different people had different perceptions of you know, distance and
Speaker 6: height and Brian and Terry do you do you remember that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it was fun. That was fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what were the prizes for the guy that won?
Speaker 1: It seemed like it took a pretty good haul.
Speaker 6: You know, I can't I can't recall. I don't know
Speaker 6: if there I don't know if there was a prize.
Speaker 6: I think there might have been a certificate or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he went away with a
Speaker 1: bunch of loot, you know, I mean, some some stuff,
Speaker 1: but I don't don't remember. But yeah, yeah, so it'd
Speaker 1: be yeah, it was always Oh and and you know
Speaker 1: Salt Force State Park on the Lodge, there's it's just phenomenal.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So hopefully it will uh it will be revived someday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always a lot of fun in Uh. One
Speaker 6: of the things I always look for at that event
Speaker 6: was just seeing people that you only see maybe once
Speaker 6: a year at that specific event, you know, and you
Speaker 6: kind of get used to seeing the same people attend
Speaker 6: the event, you know, over and over again, and you know,
Speaker 6: and and Salt Fork is it holds a special place
Speaker 6: in my heart too, because that that is where I
Speaker 6: met Brian and Terry and uh, you know, they were there,
Speaker 6: I think attending Don Keating's event he had for many years.
Speaker 6: He had a Bigfoot conference there and and I think
Speaker 6: Brian Cherry came with a bunch of other people at
Speaker 6: the time, they were living in Pennsylvania, right, and that's
Speaker 6: why that's how I came to know them, and we uh,
Speaker 6: you know it came to be good friends. And I
Speaker 6: attended many Pennsylvania events over the following years and really
Speaker 6: and really enriched my therapist through my interactions with the seeches.
Speaker 4: And hey, Steve one of the most you know, the
Speaker 4: most iconic moments of Creature Weekend when he gave our
Speaker 4: good friend Fred Seluga the interdimensional of.
Speaker 1: The Year, Yes, talk about that of all explained that
Speaker 1: there have been instances where Bruce was very much in
Speaker 1: the shall we say, flesh and blood category. Fred Seluga
Speaker 1: Rest of God, rest his soul no longer with us
Speaker 1: was very much on the paranormal end. And Fred I
Speaker 1: remember at the moth Van Festival. Fred would be up
Speaker 1: there speaking when it was in the State Theater and
Speaker 1: and mister rabble rouser creature seeker would get up and
Speaker 1: ask ask him, well, where's your proof? You know what,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be specific, where's your proof?
Speaker 1: So anyway, go tell us about this, uh, this board
Speaker 1: that was created for Fred Seluga. I know, I think.
Speaker 6: Brian was there. Brian was partently. I think Brian was
Speaker 6: helping when the presentation at the time, right, But but
Speaker 6: you know, Steve, you mischaracterized the whole.
Speaker 1: The whole, Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, because first of all, it was
Speaker 6: a packed it was a packed auditorium. It was the
Speaker 6: old movie theater in Point Pleasant and you know, uh,
Speaker 6: Fred and I had some disagreements about how he collected
Speaker 6: his evidence, and so he would brag about the fact
Speaker 6: that he would collect these these you know narratives, you know,
Speaker 6: down at the local pub. And I I just suggested,
Speaker 6: perhaps you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 6: get the most credible witnesses at a pub, you know,
Speaker 6: and he, you know, he became incensed. Anyway, what about
Speaker 6: pubs in England versus pubs in the US. Let's let's
Speaker 6: have a discussion on that.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 6: Well so, and then he would you would proceed to
Speaker 6: you know, because he we disagreed. He I think that
Speaker 6: at that one time he called security. Yeah, he actually
Speaker 6: called security to have me ejected from the event. And
Speaker 6: fortunately that event had no security, so I was spared
Speaker 6: the indignity of being kicked out. But uh, you know,
Speaker 6: we would We were banter back and forth like that
Speaker 6: all the time. And so at Creature Weekend I think
Speaker 6: was what Brian, was it twenty fourteen?
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, I don't remember that. I don't remember. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you probably you're that or really really close.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was twenty fourteen. I presented Fred
Speaker 6: Sluga the Interdimensional Bigfoot Award at Creature Weekend.
Speaker 1: And I describe it, what did it look like?
Speaker 6: It was a trophy with it was just basically a
Speaker 6: trophy with Bigfoot on it that that had the plaque
Speaker 6: that said internentional Bigfoot award, and so he loved it.
Speaker 6: But there were people who did not like it at all.
Speaker 6: And one of this one of the people was a
Speaker 6: woman who was in his group, and she got up
Speaker 6: and she said that, you know, that was I was
Speaker 6: being disrespectful, and she stormed out. And then there was
Speaker 6: another person who was he was awesome. He was equally incensed,
Speaker 6: but for a different reason because he thought he deserved
Speaker 6: an award and he didn't get an award. And I
Speaker 6: think he totally missed the fact that it was it
Speaker 6: was a joke. It was you know, it wasn't it
Speaker 6: just meant to be fun.
Speaker 1: But didn't didn't Fred treasure that trophy.
Speaker 4: He loved that trophy. He loved it, he honestly, and
Speaker 4: I tell Bruces all the time, I'm like, he got him.
Speaker 4: You couldn't like take the smile off his face at
Speaker 4: that night. He was just so, you know, he was like,
Speaker 4: this is so cool. And he kept that until I
Speaker 4: think it eventually like it fell and break. I think
Speaker 4: this cat knocked it down. But once it broke, But
Speaker 4: he had that for he had that for years.
Speaker 6: He would actually tour, he would actually tour with that.
Speaker 6: He would take it to his his presentations with him
Speaker 6: and well, at least that's what he told me. But
Speaker 6: you know, he he was a really fred.
Speaker 1: I really miss him.
Speaker 6: He was a really good sport and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: even though he and I we we'd always you know,
Speaker 6: needle each other both publicly.
Speaker 1: You know, it was very entertaining.
Speaker 6: It was it was and it was it was mostly
Speaker 6: for entertain and it uh, you know, in behind the
Speaker 6: scenes we'd get together and we'd actually have very sibyl
Speaker 6: and very you know, very great lunches and you'd always
Speaker 6: come to the camp out your creature weekend and just
Speaker 6: hang out with us for a couple of hours down
Speaker 6: at Salt Fork, and you know, yeah, he was. He
Speaker 6: was a really good support about that. Let me do
Speaker 6: our little intermission here.
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Highest Strangest Factor copyrighted on
Speaker 1: the Paranoble UK Radio network tonight on our seventh anniversary.
Speaker 1: We think it's the seventh. Uh. Brian and Terry Seech
Speaker 1: are back. They're always here for the anniversary show along
Speaker 1: with the mysterious Creature Seeker. Terry. I have a question
Speaker 1: for you in the in the intro, it talks about
Speaker 1: you having experiences as a as a young girl into
Speaker 1: adulthood with apparitions with ghosts and and also seeing UFOs.
Speaker 1: What what was it like growing up? And it would
Speaker 1: have scared the crap out of me when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I imagined, you know, when I was upstairs
Speaker 1: and my dad refinished the attic and I had nice bedroom,
Speaker 1: but the you know, the heat duck would expand and contract,
Speaker 1: and it sounded like somebody who was walking in my
Speaker 1: bedroom at night. Of course, you know you hide under
Speaker 1: the covers. Covers are magical and they protect you from monsters.
Speaker 1: But what it was, what was it like for you
Speaker 1: as a child to have those experiences?
Speaker 8: Well, my parents thought I was nuts.
Speaker 4: You are nuts.
Speaker 1: I'll suck at that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The one, the one particular time is when my parents
Speaker 7: had gone. I was on a bowling team and they
Speaker 7: would go bowling every Thursday night. And when I was
Speaker 7: a young teenager, they let me babysit my brother and sister.
Speaker 8: We used to have babysitters before that.
Speaker 7: And the one night my brother was put to bed
Speaker 7: before my parents left for their outing, and then my
Speaker 7: sister had gone to bed, I was in the bathroom
Speaker 7: and I heard somebody walking in the hallway, and I
Speaker 7: thought my sister had gotten up, and I went out
Speaker 7: to look and check on my brother and sister. They
Speaker 7: were both sound asleep. So I heard footsteps walking.
Speaker 8: In the hallway, and I don't know where or who
Speaker 8: it was. I'm assuming it was the ghost. But yeah,
Speaker 8: I grew up with a ghost in the house.
Speaker 1: Did you ever actually see it or did you just yeah?
Speaker 7: No, Well I heard it the one time, and then
Speaker 7: the other times things would disappear. I would be getting
Speaker 7: my clothes ready for school the night before, you know,
Speaker 7: ironing my shirt whatever, I'll leave them on the ironing board.
Speaker 7: Next morning, I'd go downstairs and something from my ensemble
Speaker 7: would be missing, and then it would be maybe days
Speaker 7: or a week later when it would reappear.
Speaker 1: Huh. Now how long did this go on for? How
Speaker 1: many you know, how old were you when did it disappear? Ever?
Speaker 8: Or yeah, maybe a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well it was it just pretty much to that house, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And and you also saw UFOs when you were young.
Speaker 7: Yes, when my dad would play games with us out
Speaker 7: with the neighborhood kids on the street and we were
Speaker 7: out playing kick the can or something this one time
Speaker 7: and It was in the early evening and we my
Speaker 7: dad was out there and the neighborhood kids. We all
Speaker 7: seen this silver cylindrical object go across the sky.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were you had Oh I didn't tell
Speaker 1: you the whole story. Okay. Well, the one.
Speaker 7: Friend that was out with me was in the same
Speaker 7: grade as Brian. She ran home to call Brian. This
Speaker 7: is before we met. She ran home to call Brian
Speaker 7: to let him know what was going on, and he
Speaker 7: wanted to come check it out, but at the time
Speaker 7: his mother wouldn't let him.
Speaker 8: Yeah, a couple miles apart, different neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: So mom said, no, you're not going to go out
Speaker 1: and check that UFO.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: So the next day me and my friend Kent went
Speaker 4: and we it went over the woods. So we walked
Speaker 4: on into the woods, looking around, looking up at the trees.
Speaker 4: Maybe it did some damage to the trees or something.
Speaker 4: That was actually my first ufover report and but nothing
Speaker 4: ever came of it. And unfortunately, my you know, my
Speaker 4: friend Ken, he had passed. He passed when he drowned.
Speaker 4: He was really young up in the eerie and if
Speaker 4: not he was going for which I forget chemistry or
Speaker 4: something very smart, very smart. I'm sure he would have
Speaker 4: been part of our group to this day.
Speaker 1: By the way, Susie and Andy jump in anytime, especially especially
Speaker 1: if you want to harass the Creature Seeker, that's that
Speaker 1: would be the first thing you should do, you know, Steve.
Speaker 6: Speaking of anniversaries, this is the fortieth anniversary of the
Speaker 6: Center for Unexplained Events. Yes, that is forty years. Brian
Speaker 6: and Terry have been harassing people.
Speaker 4: And each other and each other so but but real quick,
Speaker 4: what I do want to say. You know, our organization,
Speaker 4: we it's always been a smaller organization. We've had so
Speaker 4: many great people help us with with with research, helping us,
Speaker 4: you know, letting us speak and things like that. And
Speaker 4: two of them are right here, Steve Ward and Bruce
Speaker 4: I mean, and Creature Seeker. You guys have both supported
Speaker 4: us and our organization, not just us. We we don't
Speaker 4: we just like to see we're an organization. We're although
Speaker 4: we you know, we're the founders. We wouldn't be anywhere
Speaker 4: the where we are if it wasn't for people even
Speaker 4: like Fred, doctor Paul Johnson, Dave and Carrie Rupert, Leah
Speaker 4: A Leah Madden, all these people have been with us
Speaker 4: for years, right, and they they just like a Aurora, sorry,
Speaker 4: and all of these people. What people don't understand any
Speaker 4: kind of successful you have to have people helping you.
Speaker 4: Never do it by yourself, okay never. And we are
Speaker 4: blessed to have you know, all these people help us.
Speaker 4: And you know there's a lot of great people in
Speaker 4: this field that will help you if you ask. So,
Speaker 4: you know, thanks everybody anyone else has listening who's ever
Speaker 4: helped us.
Speaker 1: We appreciate.
Speaker 6: I'd like to say too. One of the things that
Speaker 6: really distinguishes Brian and Terry from a lot of researchers,
Speaker 6: and one of the reasons why I really enjoy having
Speaker 6: them as friends is because they're so willing to help
Speaker 6: other people with their research. One of my earliest interactions
Speaker 6: with them is that, you know, they're always willing to like, hey,
Speaker 6: here's a here's an article, or here's a DVD or
Speaker 6: a CD. Uh, and they're just they'll just give you,
Speaker 6: you know, these you know, these resources and not expecting
Speaker 6: anything in return. And they're always doing that, uh with people.
Speaker 6: And so one of the reasons why I think there's
Speaker 6: so well respect did in this field is their willingness
Speaker 6: to help other people. So they certainly reciprocate, and I
Speaker 6: think that they really deserve a lot of credit for
Speaker 6: that because it's you know, a lot of times people
Speaker 6: are very possessive of their resources, but Brian Terry have
Speaker 6: always been very giving and very generous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some people that are We've we've had
Speaker 1: discussions about some of those people that are very protective
Speaker 1: about their their research. We do have to spend a
Speaker 1: little time. We'll just do a reader's digest version. But
Speaker 1: it's tradition for us to talk about an event that
Speaker 1: Brian never lets me forget. You'll say, out of a
Speaker 1: clear blue hey, Steve, you know it was in the
Speaker 1: Mothman Prophecies movie. So please, I'm sure you know, if
Speaker 1: people go back to the other anniversary shows, they'll hear
Speaker 1: maybe a bigger uh a discussion about it. But you've
Speaker 1: got to you've got to tell it, at least a
Speaker 1: reader's digest version of what happened and how? And you
Speaker 1: know it was filmed in catan Well were you in Catanning, Pennsylvania?
Speaker 4: I was Upburgh Cathedral of Learning And actually this is
Speaker 4: very funny and I forgot to post this we oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that my brother was in a hospital in Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 4: you know he came, he came back. He's feeling a
Speaker 4: lot better. Last weekend, we draw right by the cathedral
Speaker 4: learning and I took a took a quick pick and
Speaker 4: I said, boy, if we had time, Terry, I would go,
Speaker 4: I do my I would do my walk and then
Speaker 4: you can you can film it. We can send it
Speaker 4: to Steve and do it.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 1: Explained For people that haven't seen the film and don't
Speaker 1: know about your part of the film, what what What
Speaker 1: was your dynamic moment in the Mothman Prophecies movie starring
Speaker 1: Richard gear, Laura Lenny, and Will Patton.
Speaker 4: So so basically when I when I found out they
Speaker 4: were auditioning for extra in Pittsburgh, so I sent my UH,
Speaker 4: I sent my my picture in and my my bio,
Speaker 4: and so did Terry. Actually, she actually was going to
Speaker 4: do the one the uh, the part in Catanning, but
Speaker 4: he kickened out that he wouldn't go. He didn't go,
Speaker 4: but it was at night. It wasn't night.
Speaker 8: It was in the middle of the night, and I couldn't.
Speaker 8: I had to come by myself.
Speaker 4: So so I actually filmed for for for for two parts,
Speaker 4: the one never uh I was in. So basically the
Speaker 4: first part were Richard Gear's in the park and he
Speaker 4: looks up and almost like you know, the camera comes
Speaker 4: down on him. I was on the total offosite side
Speaker 4: walking with a woman that was there an extra. But
Speaker 4: the part that I was in for maybe two second.
Speaker 1: So you didn't they didn't make the final cut.
Speaker 4: No, that one didn't. That one didn't because I was
Speaker 4: too far on the other side of it. It was
Speaker 4: there was a huge, huge field and I was on
Speaker 4: the other side. But the one that I did make
Speaker 4: really briefly, like maybe two seconds worth, is when Richard Gear,
Speaker 4: uh Richard Gear and John Leek were uh walking up
Speaker 4: the steps yep, going to the library to go talk.
Speaker 4: When they were talking in the library, well, if you
Speaker 4: look at first fit two seconds, there's two people coming
Speaker 4: towards the towards the camera. I'm the one with the briefcase.
Speaker 4: So that was my claim to fame, and I always
Speaker 4: tease I always tease Steve about that, and he always
Speaker 4: teases me about the briefcase.
Speaker 1: So I always accused him of stuffing the food from
Speaker 1: the lunch tray in his briefcase and not having to
Speaker 1: go grocery shopping for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Hey, they fed us really well, like they they We
Speaker 4: were fed twice breakfast and then a lunch. And it
Speaker 4: was if anyone ever gets a chance to do that,
Speaker 4: just to be an extra sit, walk or whatever, it's
Speaker 4: just such a it's such a like a cool learning experience.
Speaker 4: And we were being that other guy who was with me.
Speaker 4: We're standing and there was a trailer and we were
Speaker 4: literally like we looked in the window and we saw
Speaker 4: Richard Gear getting his hair puffed up and using a
Speaker 4: they were using the hair dryer because it was really
Speaker 4: cold that day. A little bit of slurries, and uh,
Speaker 4: we're looking at each other and saying, man, it must
Speaker 4: be great to be a star because he's in there
Speaker 4: and we're out there freezing.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 4: It was funny. So it's just something, you know, if
Speaker 4: I ever get a I mean, I've gotten chances. I've
Speaker 4: been in some other movies, like you know, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's great see movies. I don't know what you call, uh,
Speaker 4: but uh even got to talk and in them. But
Speaker 4: just to do that on a big scale like that
Speaker 4: was it was. It was, it was fun. I like
Speaker 4: to do it again.
Speaker 1: It's funny. They gotta they sent you a face shot
Speaker 1: and they can barely see your whole body and the
Speaker 1: clip that you're in.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I mean even our friend Dwayne, Dwayne Pentoff
Speaker 4: was in the scene. I guess yes or something.
Speaker 1: He was a uh, he's still in the movie. But
Speaker 1: it's even more brief than yours, isn't it? Yah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that?
Speaker 4: But it's fun. We always tea Steve, Hey, Steve, did
Speaker 4: I ever tell you? Well?
Speaker 1: Creature Seeker and I have signed up for what's the
Speaker 1: date on that.
Speaker 6: Sometime in May? I think, Steve, at the end of May.
Speaker 1: It's like a walking tour in Catanning, Pennsylvania, where they
Speaker 1: filmed a lot of the principal photography duplicating for Point Pleasant,
Speaker 1: and so we're going to get a walking tour and
Speaker 1: go around and see some of the areas they filmed there,
Speaker 1: and then to be a showing of the Mothman Prophecies
Speaker 1: film later that evening.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, that should be fun.
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of events, Brian and Terry, we're all going
Speaker 1: to be part of an event coming up in April,
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, what's the date? Eighteenth? Okay, Christine
Speaker 1: Soldis has put together a cryptid panel representing Mothman Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure how many people total we're going
Speaker 1: to be on the panel, but it's going to be
Speaker 1: for a few hours at the Full Park Library, I
Speaker 1: think in Pennsylvania, and it should be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun now. She set it up so I actually don't
Speaker 1: have to travel there, which would be all right because
Speaker 1: I get the uh, I get the red carpet treatment
Speaker 1: when I stay at the Seeches and I get to
Speaker 1: play with their cats and everything.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm going to apparently I'm gonna be on
Speaker 1: the big screen. I don't know how big the screen is.
Speaker 4: It's a TV screen, I think, right, a TV Okay,
Speaker 4: that's what I think Ryan was. He was on the
Speaker 4: TV screen.
Speaker 6: Line.
Speaker 1: It's not like a huge uh you know, smart TV screen?
Speaker 1: ID it is, Okay, Well.
Speaker 4: It's a long it's a long thing. It's over a
Speaker 4: two and a half hours, so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, almost three.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna play the great and powerful Oz. I
Speaker 1: think if I'm up there on the screen above everybody,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to embarrass Brian and ask him if
Speaker 1: he wants a heart, courage or a brain.
Speaker 4: Yeh, I'll take the brain, Steve.
Speaker 1: So that's what I think.
Speaker 6: That's very ingenious of Christine to want, you know, to
Speaker 6: be able to bump up her ten by announcing you're
Speaker 6: you're not being there, Steve.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? People want autographs, they want to they
Speaker 1: want to interact with me.
Speaker 4: I think there's a if what Robert Solomon, Jamie and Jenny,
Speaker 4: Me and then you and then Fret We're going to
Speaker 4: have a special seat, you know, have an empty seat
Speaker 4: there for a Frida with his picture because he was
Speaker 4: supposed to be there too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve, why why do you get special treatment? Why
Speaker 6: do you get to a time remotely?
Speaker 1: Well, she figures, I'm, you know, an old guy, and
Speaker 1: you know, traveling so far from home, I might not
Speaker 1: be able to find my way back, you know.
Speaker 6: Okay, she probably didn't want to spring for the diapers.
Speaker 1: Okay, well they're not that expensive. But anyway, sense creature
Speaker 1: seeker is harassing me a little bit. I have another
Speaker 1: story to tell on him. Oh uh, Brian and Terry,
Speaker 1: I don't think you were there, but we for the
Speaker 1: Mofman Festival on Friday night, a lot of times a
Speaker 1: bunch of US Congress grate at Village Pizza. Village Pizza
Speaker 1: used to be Tinese restaurant. Famous Mothmand siding took place overhead. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Scarberrys and the Mallets went there first because Linda
Speaker 1: Scarberry worked there. After they saw the Mothman before they
Speaker 1: went to the police department. So anyway, we're in this
Speaker 1: adjoining wing now that the Village Pizza is in a
Speaker 1: new building now right next door. But they've got these
Speaker 1: long tables. It was a nice place to accommodate all
Speaker 1: the people that would show up sometimes. And so we're
Speaker 1: all sitting there and we realize we don't have any silverware.
Speaker 1: So Creature Seekert, tell us what you did? Yeah, you're yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 6: I think yeah, the seatures were definitely there. Okay, Well,
Speaker 6: you know so that that tiny restaurant, they they do
Speaker 6: a lot of business the weekend of the Mothman festival,
Speaker 6: so uh, I think they probably, you know, at that time,
Speaker 6: they probably hadn't staffed up or they weren't expecting, you know,
Speaker 6: that kind of volume. But it was really really busy.
Speaker 6: Place was packed, and we came in with a very
Speaker 6: large group of people. How many people Brian and Terry
Speaker 6: do you think we're in our group?
Speaker 4: At least twenty if not twenty?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And so you know, the we found ourselves
Speaker 6: waiting a long time to order and to get our food,
Speaker 6: and we've you know, we finally you know, received our food,
Speaker 6: but no silverware, and so we could we could not
Speaker 6: get the attention of the server. She was a really
Speaker 6: nice young girl, and uh so, in desperation, I actually
Speaker 6: phoned in the restaurant and we we actually got the
Speaker 6: server on the phone and requested silver and of course,
Speaker 6: you know, when she found out we were actually sitting
Speaker 6: in the restaurant, she was not she was not amused,
Speaker 6: let's just say. But we did get our silverware. Consequently
Speaker 6: said things like uh oh miss uh get me two
Speaker 6: waters and put them on my tab.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Bruce, Bruce always harasses the that's
Speaker 4: the wait.
Speaker 1: That's not even true. Yes, I've been out with Brian.
Speaker 6: I've been out with Brian and Terry uh on many
Speaker 6: dinners and they would always turn the weight staff against me.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, not wait, I have to tell a story.
Speaker 7: Oh no, for that restaurant in Newcastle, we went to yeah, Well,
Speaker 7: Bruce decided he was going to introduce himself to the staff.
Speaker 7: The staff introduced themselves. They said, I'm whatever their name was,
Speaker 7: I'll be your server tonight, and Bruce says, nice to
Speaker 7: meet you.
Speaker 4: My name is Bruce. I will be yourself, I will
Speaker 4: be your customers.
Speaker 1: Are Are we just airing dirty laundry tonight? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what people tune in for.
Speaker 5: I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I do see
Speaker 5: a pattern, im So, first that guy called security on you,
Speaker 5: Then Brian and Terry are turning the weight staff against you.
Speaker 5: They're obviously all out to get you.
Speaker 6: Well, I have to give him a hard time because
Speaker 6: when I go to eat with Brian and Terry, it
Speaker 6: takes so long for Terry to make up her mind
Speaker 6: what she's staring at the menu, like she has to
Speaker 6: memorize it. I'm like, Terry, you just have to order
Speaker 6: off of it. You don't have to recite it like
Speaker 6: impromptu at any given time in the future.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: But she's very she's a very discerning eater apparently.
Speaker 1: But by the way, I'm going to excuse myself for
Speaker 1: just a moment. Please keep the conversation going and keep
Speaker 1: it clean.
Speaker 8: All right, now change the diaper.
Speaker 2: Stories about Steve, Well, Steve that guy, he always he's
Speaker 2: always in these situations.
Speaker 6: So you know, he had his computer issue. But looking
Speaker 6: back over the years, I've had to at the Butler conference,
Speaker 6: I had to jump start his car because his battery
Speaker 6: was dead one year, and then last the year before
Speaker 6: last year, he was feeling under the weather, so I
Speaker 6: had to give him some uh medication so that he
Speaker 6: could at least do his presentation. Brian and Ted, what
Speaker 6: are the things Steve like? He's been in other predicaments
Speaker 6: as well that have required other people to sort of
Speaker 6: bail them out.
Speaker 4: But didn't he have a problem with his presentations at
Speaker 4: Butler the one year?
Speaker 8: Just get getting the computer?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you know that does have that's happened
Speaker 4: to us two It happened on just one time, thank god,
Speaker 4: but it happened. Sometimes he just thinks, just don't sink up,
Speaker 4: and it's it's the scariest part of doing any presentation.
Speaker 4: If your presentation isn't gonna work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Brian, you guys have done hundreds of presentations. Steve, Yes,
Speaker 6: he just asked to do one. He you know, you
Speaker 6: know who helped him with that ticket ticket guys who
Speaker 6: helped you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I feel like I have done more than
Speaker 6: my fair share of you know, helping out mister Ward
Speaker 6: with you know, his life.
Speaker 1: So maybe he should give me a break. You know.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's a.
Speaker 7: Maybe he thinks you sabotage him just to make it
Speaker 7: look that you're helping him out.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 6: Like you know, that's what I like about you. You
Speaker 6: always look at the you know, you'res a glass half
Speaker 6: full type of person. That's what I like about you.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, just you know, just like uh, he's
Speaker 4: he's just like that.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're still here.
Speaker 4: Actually, hey, Bruce, that's that's just like Tom Brady, you know,
Speaker 4: deflates the ball halfway.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah yeah. So here's another story. So I think so, Brian,
Speaker 6: you were giving a presentation at Kexsburgh, right, they had
Speaker 6: Kexburgh has a they have a like a festival every year.
Speaker 6: So one year we're at Xsburgh and so you know,
Speaker 6: Brian said, hey, you know, I'm speaking at Kexsburgh if
Speaker 6: you want to stop by, So you know, yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: It's like it's only fifteen hours from Boston.
Speaker 1: Why not.
Speaker 6: So I make the effort to go attend his presentation
Speaker 6: and during the presentation, this was like during the I
Speaker 6: don't know if you remember, but one year there was
Speaker 6: some sort of a issue where the football was deflated
Speaker 6: for one of for one of the I don't know
Speaker 6: what what year was that Brian was, uh.
Speaker 4: I don't remember the exact year, but yeah, that was
Speaker 4: that was just one of the many that the.
Speaker 1: No, it was, it was one of those.
Speaker 6: It was one of those conspiracy theories that the Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: Steelers fans always had to come up with, that the
Speaker 6: thea the Patriots deflated the football and that's how they
Speaker 6: were able to get their you know, subsequent six Super
Speaker 6: Bowl wins. But uh so, during this presentation, he tells
Speaker 6: the people, now, it's a packed room. He tells the people, Oh,
Speaker 6: by the way, you know, it's a it's a packed
Speaker 6: room full of Pittsburgh Steelers fans. And he says, oh,
Speaker 6: by the way, if you go out and find the
Speaker 6: tires on your cars deflated, it's probably because of the
Speaker 6: New England Patriots fans sitting right there. And I don't
Speaker 6: think Brian understands it. You know, these people, they they
Speaker 6: don't know he's joking. These are like, these are common
Speaker 6: folk there. I thought they were ready to get out
Speaker 6: the pitchquarks.
Speaker 4: Hey, but I did say, came all the way from
Speaker 4: from Boston. I said, you know, let's let's give my hand.
Speaker 4: And that's when I the end of the bus.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So that that's what my life has been like ever
Speaker 6: since I met to see.
Speaker 4: You this, Steve Bruce. Bruce cannot believe that even a
Speaker 4: Bigfoot or a mothman creature can be interdimensional, but he
Speaker 4: thinks the Patriots won every Super Bowl fair and square.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you a story about a creature seeker.
Speaker 1: He was on as co host when I had Linda sigmannon,
Speaker 1: who was a mothman witness when she was and Chris
Speaker 1: Parsons and uh, we were talking about mothman, but the
Speaker 1: the subject changed to Bigfoot because she's had which sounds
Speaker 1: like Bigfoot activity on her property, you know, calls and
Speaker 1: knocks and that sort of thing. And uh, they talked
Speaker 1: about one night and this this kind of echoed. I think, Uh,
Speaker 1: what a creature seeker. Up Ron moorehead of who captured
Speaker 1: the Sierra Sounds and the Sierra Nevadash. So, so Linda
Speaker 1: and Chris one night they're hearing this tremendous racket outside
Speaker 1: pounding on the their house and everything. They're expecting to
Speaker 1: see things all torn up, but when they went out
Speaker 1: the next day, everything was in its place. And Creature Seeker,
Speaker 1: you brought up an incident that happened to Ron moorehead
Speaker 1: when he was out investigating Bigfoot. Yeah, well, so he had.
Speaker 6: A similar He had a similar thing happened where they
Speaker 6: were at.
Speaker 1: The uh their you.
Speaker 6: Know, secret Bigfoot camp where they recorded the Sierra sounds,
Speaker 6: and they heard a lot of commotion and they thought
Speaker 6: the camp was being ransacked. You know, they heard pots
Speaker 6: and pants being thrown around, and they thought that the
Speaker 6: camp was being ransacked, but none of them would dare
Speaker 6: to go out to investigate. And then the morning they
Speaker 6: went out and nothing had nothing had been touched.
Speaker 1: They'd also seen strange lights, like long cigar shaped like
Speaker 1: lights floating through the trees and so forth. There seemed
Speaker 1: to be a lot of kind of anomalous activity in
Speaker 1: the same area. So, you know, would like I ask
Speaker 1: all of you guys, everybody, really, what do you think
Speaker 1: about the In some cases the paranormal aspects that seem
Speaker 1: to surround Bigfoot. I mean, he had the really bizarre
Speaker 1: cases in Pennsylvania in seventy three and seventy four. But
Speaker 1: even if you read the book Valley of the Skukum
Speaker 1: by it by Sally Shepherd Wolford, they had very sort
Speaker 1: of flesh and blood looking bigfoots, but there was a
Speaker 1: lot of high strangeness that surrounded them too. Some of
Speaker 1: them looked translucent. They had that they called sometimes they
Speaker 1: call it the quick silver curtain or the shimmer where
Speaker 1: it seems like some of these things passed through. So
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about? I mean, is there
Speaker 1: a duality? Are some of these things flesh and blood
Speaker 1: creatures that have not been documented? But are some of
Speaker 1: them perhaps more in the John keel realm uh got
Speaker 1: John Keelen? How about that surprise?
Speaker 8: Made it?
Speaker 1: I know it was. It was killing me man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think?
Speaker 4: Well, you know what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: What what I think on that is everybody wants to
Speaker 4: put everything in a neat little box. It's either black
Speaker 4: or white, no no gray. I think a lot of
Speaker 4: these phenomena go in the shades of gray type thing.
Speaker 4: There could be even too phenomena. There could be some
Speaker 4: of these creatures that could do certain things. Maybe they
Speaker 4: could use a portal. I'm sorry, Bruce, I had to
Speaker 4: say that, or or their or the interdimensional. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: brus I said that again.
Speaker 1: But again he's going to give you an inter dimensional
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Award.
Speaker 4: Yes, here's the thing, is we just I really believe
Speaker 4: we don't know. There's a lot of things that for
Speaker 4: bigfoot just to be a flesh and blood animal, I
Speaker 4: think we'd have a lot more proof. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 4: think we'd have more more sightings we'd have we'd have
Speaker 4: more prints, we'd have more deada animals we would have.
Speaker 4: Just me, it's just my thought that we would have
Speaker 4: more proof if it was just, you know, say, a
Speaker 4: bear out there in the wood. I don't think we
Speaker 4: know for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, Brian, where was it that you told me? There
Speaker 1: was a night some years ago you went out to
Speaker 1: an area where they had at least heard bigfoots. I
Speaker 1: mean they thought they thought it was a highly active,
Speaker 1: active area with bigfoots. You didn't find a bigfoot that night,
Speaker 1: but you guys saw a strange light in the sky
Speaker 1: acting in a very unconventional manner. We're talking about Livermore.
Speaker 4: That was in the town. No, No, that was in
Speaker 4: a Livermore in the I think it was what Indiana,
Speaker 4: West more Than County. On the order we were out Indiana, Indiana. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we were on the West pen And Trail.
Speaker 8: And India that Indiana p a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the West Penn Trail it goes over
Speaker 4: the woods that the Conamall River right at them. And
Speaker 4: we were there to do a bigfoot uh observation and
Speaker 4: we split up into two groups. And before was it
Speaker 4: before we left that Leah laughed and we heard the scream.
Speaker 4: Aurora laughed and we heard the scream our friend, Uh.
Speaker 8: He's talking about the lights.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were with Nutricia. Well that happened that night.
Speaker 4: We had uh, Aurora and some of the people. We
Speaker 4: were getting ready to break up into two groups, and
Speaker 4: I got my we got our friend. Aurora's the laugh
Speaker 4: and she has like the funniest laugh. And I know
Speaker 4: that Uh, creature Seeker and Steve have heard that laugh.
Speaker 4: Very unusual laugh.
Speaker 1: And it carries over a so it carried.
Speaker 4: We were on top of a bridge on top of
Speaker 4: the Klamo River, part of the trail, is a bridge,
Speaker 4: and we heard like a scream after she remember, and
Speaker 4: we heard a scream. It's like a ah, And then
Speaker 4: it stopped and everything there echoes because there's a big valley.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah. And so we stayed there about ten minutes.
Speaker 4: Heard nothing else after that. So we walked myself, Patricia
Speaker 4: and I think a couple other people walk down how
Speaker 4: about it Man, maybe about a mile and we were
Speaker 4: on still on the West Pen Trail. But we see
Speaker 4: this light and it looks like a white light and
Speaker 4: it looks like it's bobbing like almost like I say,
Speaker 4: it almost looks like a someone carrying a railroad lantern,
Speaker 4: like the railroad people who worked on the railroad those lanterns,
Speaker 4: and they would swim as they're walking, and it got
Speaker 4: close to us. I tried to film it on my
Speaker 4: night vision and it wouldn't take. But once I looked
Speaker 4: at it with my eye, I saw which was that
Speaker 4: was even kind of weird, And as we started to
Speaker 4: walk toward it, it just disappeared. Another time, we were
Speaker 4: at the same place and we saw a light in
Speaker 4: the sky, light in the sky, which it looked as
Speaker 4: it was passing us. It almost looked like it split
Speaker 4: into two now Patricia the two lights. Yeah, Patricia has
Speaker 4: got it on film. They got it on film, and
Speaker 4: I don't think they've ever released that yet. So yeah,
Speaker 4: there's there's some weird we call them light spheres, light
Speaker 4: anomalies that more and more people are talking about in
Speaker 4: conjunction with bigfoot sightings or screams or things like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the same phenomena or two
Speaker 4: different phenomenas merging, you know, being at the same place
Speaker 4: at the same time, but.
Speaker 1: This it was the area was kind of of known
Speaker 1: for bigfoot activity. Yes, sightings and no and the calls
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and there's actually uh uh, doctor Paul Johnson
Speaker 4: gave us a picture of a photo of a I
Speaker 4: think it was like a fourteen inch footprint, uh, right
Speaker 4: up in Livermore Cemetery, which is right above the right
Speaker 4: above the trail.
Speaker 1: So yeah, now, now Bross Creatures Rolo Tomasi has been
Speaker 1: very quiet, So I think what he's doing, he's constructing
Speaker 1: a interdimensional bigfoot award for you, Brian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was treasure it like Fred did.
Speaker 6: I'm sure you would, you know. Uh, I think the
Speaker 6: I think that award actually was lost to history only
Speaker 6: because Fred caressed it to too much, and well that
Speaker 6: brings up an image it fell into disrepair. Anyway, Look,
Speaker 6: I don't deny that there are other reality these you
Speaker 6: can call them dimensions, alternate realities.
Speaker 1: I don't deny that. I think, ah, when.
Speaker 6: You the the math actually does point to the fact
Speaker 6: that there exists other dimensions other than the three or
Speaker 6: four that you know, I guess I am having difficulty
Speaker 6: with just sort of answering a mystery with another mystery.
Speaker 6: So I think that you know, being able to you know,
Speaker 6: just say, oh, well, the reason why we don't have
Speaker 6: a lot of evidence for the existence of you know,
Speaker 6: sasquatch or whatever is because they they're able to access
Speaker 6: these inter dimensional portals.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too convenient.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I I just don't know. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's unclear to me how that would how that would work.
Speaker 6: And I and I think that we really have to
Speaker 6: scrutinize this with.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a little.
Speaker 6: Bit more more focused on, you know, the actual physics
Speaker 6: of it. I mean, if we're to believe that these
Speaker 6: creatures are are real, that we can interact with them.
Speaker 6: That means that they are somehow physical if they're leaving
Speaker 6: behind footprints and scat and and hair, and it suggests
Speaker 6: me that they are, that there's some tangibility, there's some
Speaker 6: physicalness to them, and and that that should be dictated
Speaker 6: by Newtonian laws of physics. So, you know, if you
Speaker 6: want to talk about like so Ron, you mentioned Ron Morehead.
Speaker 6: He and I've had probably equally heated discussions because he's
Speaker 6: he's into quantum Bigfoot and he's written, I think he's
Speaker 6: written a book called Quantum big Foot, and you know,
Speaker 6: he and I have had these really heated discussions about
Speaker 6: that before, and like and I think that this whole
Speaker 6: idea of like, you know, portals, I think it sort
Speaker 6: of became very popular after that movie Stargate, which was
Speaker 6: like what in the mid nineties, like ninety four or
Speaker 6: something like that, So people started talking more about this
Speaker 6: stuff after that. And I think the whole idea of
Speaker 6: like portals and being able to access other dimensions via portals,
Speaker 6: I think it became kind of a cultural thing more
Speaker 6: than you know, I really think that that's what's going
Speaker 6: on here with you know, I think.
Speaker 1: Ron Moorhead is talking actually talking about how these things
Speaker 1: sort of manifest I'm not even sure he's talking about portals. Well,
Speaker 1: some do somethink Bigfoot is flesh and blood, but somehow
Speaker 1: passes through these portals and you know, they just kind
Speaker 1: of go elsewhere for a while. It seems like Quantum
Speaker 1: Bigfoot talks about these things sort of coming into existence,
Speaker 1: manifesting somehow. But I recommend Valley of the Skukum by
Speaker 1: Sally Shepherd Walford, a very very interesting book. And you know,
Speaker 1: Ron Moorehead was originally he was out there with Alan Barry,
Speaker 1: the reporter, who was skeptical at first, but he saw
Speaker 1: the events going on. But Alan Barry also saw the
Speaker 1: high strangeness aspects going on in the Sierra Nevadas, but
Speaker 1: he asked Ron Morehead not to report him right away
Speaker 1: because it was hard enough to get people to accept
Speaker 1: just a regular, happy, go lucky Harry flesh and blood Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: much less with all the paranormal trappings. But once Alan
Speaker 1: Barry passed, that's when Ron Moorhead came out with books
Speaker 1: like Quantum Bigfoot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and Ron, I give him a lot
Speaker 6: of credit, but you know, I also give him a
Speaker 6: lot of ribbing too, because you know he he recorded
Speaker 6: those what people believed the ore Bigfoot vocalizations, and they're
Speaker 6: called the Sierra Sounds, And I kind of give him
Speaker 6: a ribbing that I thought the Sierra Sounds is the
Speaker 6: name of his band back in the seventies. Classic classic creature.
Speaker 4: Well, Bruce, for when we say, try not to explain
Speaker 4: a mystery with another mystery, why can't that be part
Speaker 4: of the mystery? So you see what I mean, We
Speaker 4: don't know exactly. I still don't believe we know exactly
Speaker 4: what this creature may be able to do. Like when
Speaker 4: we talk about it, Let's go to aliens. How many
Speaker 4: reports aliens can seem like they can change their density
Speaker 4: and walk right through walls. Maybe these things can control
Speaker 4: an aura. Maybe they can control I don't know, something
Speaker 4: smarter than what I know. But what if they could
Speaker 4: somehow can you know, make themselves? And here's a word here,
Speaker 4: seemingly invisible maybe not invisible, but to our eyes they've
Speaker 4: become in visay I one little word changes the whole sentence,
Speaker 4: the whole thing there. Why can't they like, you know,
Speaker 4: seemingly to our eyes?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know. Barton Nunley, author of inhumanoids, talks
Speaker 1: about a lot of people that he knows have seen
Speaker 1: these things vanished or cloak or yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Had those reporting too. Not a lot, not a lot
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: So I have to ask Brian and Terry, what's what's
Speaker 1: next for you? Are you are there any big events
Speaker 1: coming up? Well besides the panel that I'll be on
Speaker 1: as the Great Oz, but what else is is ahead
Speaker 1: for you guys?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm supposed to speak, uh what in July? Right
Speaker 4: July at a big Foot conference in Ohio. Ah, We're
Speaker 4: probably gonna douce one or two events up here, you
Speaker 4: know in Beaver County where we, you know, live most
Speaker 4: of our lives, which is the next county up in
Speaker 4: PA and you know, hopefully the Mofman Festival. I have
Speaker 4: to contact Jess. Oh yeah, I'd like to speak down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll mention it to Jeff again. It'd be great
Speaker 1: to have you.
Speaker 4: Back, Okay, Yeah, it'd be my third time, maybe my
Speaker 4: third and final speaking anyway, not going down there, but.
Speaker 1: Creature Seeker in the audience when you're speaking, so we
Speaker 1: can give you a bunch of can I say, ship
Speaker 1: on the high Strangus factor? Well, Steve I may even
Speaker 1: be a speaker who knows. Oh, good Lord, and then
Speaker 1: Brian can give you crap. Yeah, the audience. Well, I
Speaker 1: think I'm about ready to wrap it up, but if
Speaker 1: anybody has any closing comments and remarks, please feel free.
Speaker 5: I had a follow up a question on something Roller
Speaker 5: what's his name said a little while ago. There you go,
Speaker 5: Where can I find more information on bigfoot poop?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: That's a good question, So I think, Uh, there have
Speaker 6: been reports of people who clean to have recovered bigfoot scat.
Speaker 6: Whether whether that actually is or not, you know, I
Speaker 6: think still remains debatable, right. So I remember one researcher
Speaker 6: recovered what he thought was bigfoot scat because it had,
Speaker 6: you I, had elements of a type of hair in it,
Speaker 6: and it turned out to be, you know, just something
Speaker 6: that was digested. It was actually a coyote scat. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it's a good question, Susie.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I've heard many reports of people who claim that they've
Speaker 6: had bigfoot scat, and I never you know, followed up
Speaker 6: with them to find out if that was ever confirmed
Speaker 6: or not. And there were a couple of it's is
Speaker 6: back in the early two thousands where people claim that
Speaker 6: they sent it the DNA to you know, some laboratory
Speaker 6: to be confirmed and it was lost or something like that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know where you could go to
Speaker 6: actually find Yeah, this is bona fide Bigfoot Scott.
Speaker 1: You don't have any eight by ten glossies, do you? Yeah?
Speaker 6: But really the picture turned out like shit.
Speaker 1: So with that, I think we'll bring the seventh anniversary
Speaker 1: show to a close. Brian and Terry, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for being here to celebrate again. They having a High
Speaker 1: Strangers Factor having some longevity. Very happy to have Andy
Speaker 1: and Susie here along with me because if they weren't here,
Speaker 1: you know, Andy is the producer. Susie provides the streamlink.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm just talking to myself, which I do often
Speaker 1: anyway at my age, so I guess. And Creature Seeker,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here at writing Shotgun and talking about
Speaker 1: bigfoot poop. Of course Susie instigated that, but that's all right,
Speaker 1: all right, ladies and having us we appreciate it. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having us on. Steve star playing. The High Strangers
Speaker 1: Factor was created by Steve Ward and Andy Mercer and
Speaker 1: his Copyred and on the Paranormal UK Radio network are Fearless.
Speaker 1: Leaders here at the Network are Iron Alan Block, Mark Johnson,
Speaker 1: and Andy Mercer, and he's also producer and composer of
Speaker 1: the ends theme for The High Strangers Factor. Brian Zeller
Speaker 1: has composed the opening theme. Susie Bastiele provided the stream
Speaker 1: link the stream stream link, Yes, I won't keep one.
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Or is it stream?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Stream yard, I keep screwing that up. I can also
Speaker 1: be heard from time to time with Paul Dale Roberts
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Speaker 1: I didn't name it the ghost wankers. Don't take that literally,
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Speaker 1: Mothman one oh one interviews, some farmed out by Jeff Walmsley,
Speaker 1: the creator of the Mothman Museum and found co founder
Speaker 1: of the Mothman Festival. We start out with Mothman, but
Speaker 1: the conversation always goes much further. You can often find
Speaker 1: me on Saturday afternoons at the world's only Mothman Museum
Speaker 1: in downtown Point Pleasant. Jeff also has the Point Pleasant
Speaker 1: Trading Company. Next door Bunker three h four, a vinyl shop,
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Speaker 1: with Susie Bastile and Addie Mercer. I am a displaced
Speaker 1: Michigander deep in the Ohio Valley, living on the same
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Speaker 1: Chate was chased by the Mothman in of his sixties.
Speaker 1: Expect to hear the High Strangest Factor more often coming up.
Speaker 1: We will see you again, possibly in a fortnight. Take care,