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Speaker 1: Welcome to this edition of The High Strangers Factor, copyrighted

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on the Paranormal UK Radio Network. I am Steve Ward

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along with Annie Mercer and Susie Bastile. The High Stranger

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Factor has been around about seven years. Tonight we are

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celebrating the seventh anniversary. We think it's the seventh anniversary, anyway,

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we could stand. We stand corrected. Before we introduce our

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guest co host and our special guests, Andy, catch us

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up with what's going on with you when you're a

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publishing company.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's going rather well. My most a bit of

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time since you had a last shown. Since that, I've

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had a book out which has sold out real quickly,

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which is rather and just working on the next one now,

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so that's given me quite busy. The last one was

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on ancient Greek magic. This one's on a manuscript that's

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published in the eighteen hundreds that's been I am transcribing

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it from although in English it's handwritten so it's not

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incredibly clear in places, into a much more modern.

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Speaker 1: Form so it's easy to read. So that's the currently

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one working on.

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Speaker 2: I spoke at a conference a couple weeks back which

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was on the occult in glaston Bringing my favorite place,

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so that went down really rather well. Pleased with that,

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so keep me quite busy. We've had some weather here

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which dud if you guys have heard about. It's the

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West Country of England. It rained almost constantly for nearly

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two months every day through flooding rains a lot here

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anywhere in the West Country, but this was excessive and

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we had roads closed, people's homes flooded, entire fields and

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lakes just with rain on them.

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Speaker 1: Because part of Somerset.

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Speaker 2: Is very much sea level it so of course any

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heavy rainfall tends to stay on the surface, so it

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was but it's particularly bad.

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Speaker 1: So are you maintaining water tight and techerty in your home?

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Speaker 2: Fortunately we're on a slight hill so here actual house

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is absolutely fine, but not very far away a matter

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of a couple hundred yards is an area called North

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that has had flooding problems in the past and it

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wasn't too bad this time, but there was days when

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the road was just underwater, which so it's pretty unusual.

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So it's been an interesting time all around.

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Speaker 3: But I was pretty much stuck at home because I

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don't drive, so my transport is the local bus, and

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that was temporarily canceled for about three weeks because of

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the weather because the whole area of the road had

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flooded and it's one road, but to go around it

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in the past would have had another hours of the

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journey time. So unfore she counted the bus at the

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time being so a bit annoying, but thankfully I've had

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a few days of sunshine.

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Speaker 1: It does actually feel like spring now.

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Speaker 2: It's been sunny here, tenderly suns up.

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Speaker 1: So it definitely feels like it's movie to spring at

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a lot. That's good. So do you have any books

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out where you can turn somebody into a newt.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the books working on he Doesntain and

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spells in the fifteen hundreds that may include something along

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those lines.

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Speaker 4: Don't you never know?

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Speaker 1: That could be handy at all. Anyway, Susie tell us

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about how people can contact you and if you have

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any projects going on.

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Speaker 5: So you can contact me on the new moon by

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going into a swamp at midnight and saying my name

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three times and bringing and offering. As for projects, I

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have been knowed in and or sick all winter, so

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I've been working on my remote viewing skills, ah, which

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I am forcing my child to help me with. Also,

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he so far hasn't had me committed, so it's going well.

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Speaker 1: Very good. And now we can introduce our guest co host.

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He's known as the Creature Seeker, which of course is

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a pseudonym. I don't think it's not his birth certificate.

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And the reason is that he's not trying to be mysterious.

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He's actually trying to stay one or two steps ahead

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of the law. And I'm here tonight I'm going to

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reveal his real name. His real name is Rolo Tamasi,

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so just keep that in mind anyway. Creature Seeker, welcome

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back to the High Strangers Factor. You've been here as

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a guest co host before and as a full fledged guest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve. Nice to see you

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folks again. Susie and Andy. Yeah, I have been here

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a couple of times, and coincidentally, none of those appearances

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have actually ever been published for some reason.

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Speaker 1: So wait a minute, Wait a minute, you had several

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several published here. Okay, man, you got the check on

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the mail right. Maybe perhaps I misspoke. I won one

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appearance published, so I feel very fortunate to be once

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again in your company, and I'm talking about Andy and

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Suzie of course. Well, but I'm here to thank you

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again once again for saving my tuk us when the

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other night my computer, my computer that's on its last legs,

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went completely wacky. I sent you and Andy images about what

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was going on, and you spent what two or three

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hours taking command of my computer and actually getting it

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to work again.

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Speaker 6: It was actually three hours and seventeen minutes, but who's counting.

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That's what's reflected on my bill.

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Speaker 1: So I offer that I don't have any I've had

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plumbing issues again. I'm going to have to I'll have

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to take out a loan to pay your bill. Okay, great,

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So now let's introduce our guests. Brian and Terry Seech

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have been married since nineteen eighty five and researching the paranormal,

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and I've explained for just as long. Brian's interest started

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at the age of ten when he saw a documentary

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on TV called The Mysterious Monsters, which dealt with Bigfoot

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and the Locknest Monster. When he worked for a local retailer,

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He went to lunch one day with a friend Dave,

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and the subject turned to UFOs Dave then explained about

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his low level encounter. In the nineteen sixties, Brian decided

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to form a research and study group on all Things

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Unexplained and Paranormal Q the Center for Unexplained Events. He

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would become Brian and Terry's passion from then on. Terry's

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interest started in the nineteen seventies watching documentaries on TV

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about UFOs in Bigfoot and having her own ghost experiences

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as a teenager and young adult. Along with UFO sightings,

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her passion to read and learn about the paranormal and

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unexplained as well as natural healing, homeopathy, aromatherapy, crystal healing, yoga, spirituality,

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and world religions. She has also learned Riki one and two.

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Brian has dubbed their files the Siege Files, the s Files,

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and their home the Siege Triangle because a lot of

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things have disappeared over the years, never to be seen again,

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and it never happened while I was visiting. I want

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that clear. Brian has appeared on Monsters and Mysteries in

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America and has been featured on the independent independent film

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Mountain Devil, The Search for Frank Peterson, was an extra

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in The Mothband Prophecies movie filmed in the Pittsburgh area

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Huh I Didn't Know That, and has appeared on various

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internet radio shows. He also, along with Terry, has been

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featured on the awesome podcast The High Strangers Factor several times.

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Brian has also co written articles for the Creature Chronicles

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column in the Hancock County Courier in West Virginia. From

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August through November twenty thirteen. He was also co instructor

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for the first ever cryptozoology class at Eastern Gateway College

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in Steubenville, Ohio. Their own group, the Center for Unexplained Events,

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holds meetings locally in Beaver County, Pennsylvania, and CCS Center

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for Cryptozoological Studies, formed in twenty twelve. The most recent

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endeavor is a project named LAE Light Anomaly Exploration, started

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in May twenty nineteen, which researchers and explores the light

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anomalies that have been reported over the years. Both Brian

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and Terry co sponsored the Butler Paranormal Conference and the

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volunteer for the Creature Weekend event. They sponsored the Beaver

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Valley PERCN Rochester, Pennsylvania. They are members of the KBP

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Keystone Bigfoot Project BO ru Butler Organization for Research on

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the Unexplained and our former field investigators for Newfon the

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Mutual UFO Network. Terry was also a state section director

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for MUFON, covering eight northwest counties of Pennsylvania and belonged

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to a group called CRC Consciousness Raising Club whose goal

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it is to raise human awareness consciousness globally. It is

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about becoming enlightened human beings and creating a better Earth.

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The Center for Unexplained Events is now celebrating its fortieth year.

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Brian and Terry, welcome back to the heist rangis factor.

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Speaker 4: Glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve, thanks for being here to celebrate our

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whatever the anniversary is, sixth seventh, Who cares? But it's

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great to have some longevity. So I'm going to have

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to ask, how long have you guys known the creature Seeker?

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How long will we admit to knowing him?

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Speaker 7: Wow?

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Speaker 4: When was the first time we met you down at

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the Bigfoot conference? First? You remember what year?

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Speaker 6: I want to say it was in the early two thousands,

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right it was?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, it's been more than a decade at least.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at least at least That's what I recall.

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Speaker 1: So what were your first impressions?

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Speaker 4: Bruce?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well Bruce, you guys what you know, what was

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the you know, how did you how did you size

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him up?

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Speaker 4: No, Bruce, not Bruce.

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Speaker 8: Creature Seeker.

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Speaker 4: Oh I mean yeah, yeah that yeah, yeah, creature Seeker.

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Speaker 1: H rolls.

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Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, Creature Seeker was always very nice

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to us. He came up and talk to my you know,

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Terry and I later on David, Dave and Carrie Rupert

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and uh, always very friendly. Helped out Don keating for

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the first couple of years, and just yeah, we liked them.

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We hit it off with them right away.

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Speaker 1: How long have you guys been in West Virginia now?

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Speaker 8: Four years last August?

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Speaker 1: Is uh? Is West Virginia a better sort of a

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hot spot to uh to investigate this type of phenomena

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than it was in Pennsylvania? Or Is there any difference?

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Speaker 4: Not much difference, Not much difference. It's it's a lot

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harder to research here because we're there's there's hills and

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cliffs and mountains here. It's it's called the Mountain State

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for a reason. We're literally only seven miles from the

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PA border. In What about a half hour from where

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we used to live. We do some hikes and things

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like that with our friends Jeff and Scott down here,

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and of course, you know, we did some things with Fred,

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you know, unfortunately passed away in December. So now we've

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kind of taken over the rains here. It's a lot

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the smallest county in West Virginia, and it actually we

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of West Virginia if you want, if you watch West Virginia,

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we're between West Pa and Pa and Ohio watching to

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live down here. It's why we came down here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely is. I I was at the Mofman

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Statue one day, you know, taking pictures of people, and

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I always ask people where they're from. And the one guy, he, uh,

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he said from here. He flipped the bird at me.

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so he thought maybe he uh, you know, disrespected me

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Speaker 6: I think when I first met Steve, I flipped him

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the finger as well. So I think there may be

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some sort of pattern merging here.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was gonna say that story for

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about halfway through the show, but maybe we should talk

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about one time when all of us were together and

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it was on the Mothman hay Ride and many stories

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have come up about that and they're not all accurate.

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Now No, Well, first off, Brian and Terry talk about

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the Butler Paranormal Event. Do you know if there's going

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to be another one? It was some question as to

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whether Dan was going to have another Dan Hagman, who

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runs the paranormal event usually in the spring in Butler, Pennsylvania,

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do you think there'll be another one?

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Speaker 7: Was of right now there isn't the venue where he

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had it at for the past what eighteen nineteen years?

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The building recently sold. Okay, he was looking for another place.

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Speaker 4: You know, that could change tomorrow, but as of right

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's always a good event. I mean, it's a Saturday,

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of speakers. Even all of us have spoken their creature secret.

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Did you ever actually speak there?

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Speaker 6: I don't think I actually was a speaker at that

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event ever, but I did. I did frequent the the podium, no,

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the food truck a lot.

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Speaker 1: So well. I remember you would get up there to

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advertise the upcoming Creature weekend and and sometimes you would

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harass people. You know, you were kind of like the

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the Don Rickles of the Butler paranormal event. And I

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remember Doug Waller, who self publishes his own big Foot books.

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You were up there one time. Doug had just come

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out with a new book, and Creature Seekers up there saying, hey, hey, Doug,

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how why do those margins in that book two inches

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on each side? And then he said, and what was

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your what was your publisher? Again?

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Speaker 6: Xerox, I do remember that, Steve No So you know Doug, uh,

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you know, he's from Ohio and he had, you know,

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he published a couple of books. In the book that

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he was sort of promoting. In my opinion, was was

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kind of thin. It was kind of it's more like

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a pamphlet. And uh, even though even though it was bound.

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I think it could have easily have been held together

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with staples. But that's just look, that's I was just

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giving him a hard time.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's a good guy, though, Doug. Pardon, he's a really

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good guy. Gug. I mean, we're ripping on him, but

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he's Doug Waller is a really good guy. He was

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a good sport about it at the time.

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, I was given a hard time about,

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you know, the the thought being very large, his margins

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being very wide, and you know the fact that you know,

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it was more of a brochure than a book.

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Speaker 4: So I'll stick up for Doug. He's had, I believe,

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five books. They're all very very good, very well written,

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and tell of bigfoot encounters in not just Ohio but

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nearby PA and even in West Virginia down here in

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that weir.

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Speaker 1: And and he does a lot of personal research himself. Yeah,

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he's not just rehashing stuff. So anyway, my first I

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can't remember what year it was, but my first Butler

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paranormal conference, I met Brian and Terry and a few

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of the people, and they knew the vibe was was bigfoot.

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You know, they like, if they ever thought about Mothman.

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He was an afterthought. So here I am at the

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at the Mothman Festival, and I'm the I had started

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doing the tour, one of the tours in there, and

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I'm watching people lining up. I see Brian and Terry

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and a few other people I thought I recognized from Butler.

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So they get on. Everybody gets on board on the cart,

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and I thought, I'm going to have some fun. So

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the first thing I said, well, you know, the only

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legitimate paranormal researchers are Mothman researchers. Bigfoot researchers are a

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bunch of backbencher wannabes trying to work their way up.

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Creature Seeker is sitting right next to me, okay, and

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so everybody had kind of a good Actually, Dave Rupert

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was looking right at me, and you know, and I

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didn't know David all that time. It was another really

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good guy and gentle as a lamb, right, but he

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looked like maybe he was thinking about do I hit

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him now or do I wait? You know, when it's

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darker out on a dark alley or something. Anyway, everybody

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had kind of a good laugh on that. And I

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said to Bruce, I said to the creek, I said

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to Rolo TOMASI I said, uh, I said, it's pretty funny. Huh,

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I recognize so and so and so ino And he said, Steve,

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the whole cart was full of Bigfoot research. So I insulted.

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I don't know how many people and one fell swoot.

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But the good news is they most of them came

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back the next year to be insulted again. So it

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worked out pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, prior to prior to that event, we had all

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sort of organized and agreed that we would all meet

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at the same time to you know, to go on

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that hay ride. And so it just happened that we were,

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you know, most of us were Bigfoot researchers, and of

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course Steve, with his ultimate timing, chose to uh, you know,

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basically uh insults a whole wagon full of researchers at

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one times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, even though he insulted us every year we've gone back,

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we always waited for Steve's wagon to come around to

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get on with him.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of some kind of psychological self punishment thing,

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probably right.

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Speaker 4: To ste and we always don't. We always chant your

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name before you come, come to we all, you know, Steve, Steve, Steve.

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Speaker 1: It could be, it could be. And then there was

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the year that we I guess maybe it was the

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same year we went by where John and Tim Frick

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the Mothman they hide behind the old acid plant. They

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run the Mothman mannequin thing that they hooked up down

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a wire off one of these structures, one of the

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old structures there. They have this ingenious low tech hand

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crank delivery system. They light up his eyes with battery

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power and they blast a sound effect from a someplace

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I can't say because they've never paid royalties. So anyway,

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so they did that and we're all but we were chanting.

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I think it was God who was there, the guy

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that a Creatures Secret used to be your co host

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on subsquash. He said, we got to say something, you know,

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So we were yelling freakin' frack freakin' Fred at the

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top of our lungs. And then Bigfoot Phil was there

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and he does a perfect woody woodpecker. So after that,

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I said, Phil, woody woodpecker. So he belts out this

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perfect woody woodpecker that probably went all over the county. Anyway,

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that's the kind of fun we have at the Moth

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Band Festival.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're talking about Phil Brocco. Yes, yes, yeah,

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Bigfoot Phil. Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah. Phil's a good guy.

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I spoke to him fairly recently, actually last week. I

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think he's still doing research and he's still kicking around.

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This guy, uh is fearless. So there is a section

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of Salt Fork State Park. It's called the Hossacks Cave

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and it's an area of high strangeness because people have

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heard disembodied voices. There have been several deaths over at

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Hosacks Cave over the years because you know, people will

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climb up to the top of the cave and it's

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extremely slippery and that's where the waterfall goes over the

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cave and then you lose your footing and there's no

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there's nothing you can grab onto. It's just all mossy

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and rock and smooth, you know, over you know, thousands

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of years of that water going up the rock and

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people plumme it to their deaths about you know, sixty

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feet below. But Phil Broco, you know, so we'd be

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out there and he would just pull out a a

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launch air. He was like, oh, you know, I'm gonna

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I'm going to sleep here tonight. And I'm like, Phil,

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are you sure you want to do that? I mean

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it's like forty degrees out. He's like, no, No, I'm good.

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I'm good. And he you know, he does that a lot.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, he researches too, a lot in by the

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Mogador Reservoir and up by Berlin Lake, up and towards

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northern Ohio too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So are we going to have another Creature Weekend?

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Do you think? You know that?

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Speaker 6: That's always the question when we post on the Creature

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Weekend Facebook page. And all I can say is you

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never can tell Steve.

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Speaker 1: And for those that don't know that, the Creature Weekend

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is held at Saltfort State Park. And what's the town

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of Cambridge is closer fairly close to Cambridge, Ohio, right

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where I seventy and seventy seven come together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's right at the intersection of seventeen seventy seven there.

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And you know, for years we've we've always had that

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event at Saltport State Park.

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Speaker 1: It's not to say we may not switch it up.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I get invitations to move that event

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to other parts of the state, other parts of the

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country even and you know, the logistics, you know, we

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have to work out. But people, really we have a

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great following, and it's really because of the volunteers. You know,

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Brian and Terry are one of the volunteers, are some

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of the volunteers, and you know, all the volunteers. They

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work really really hard to make that a really special

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event for the attendees and the result is that it's

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really gained a huge following and it's really hard to

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even post anything on the Facebook page without somebody inquiring about, hey,

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when when's the next Spreach weekend. And that's really that's

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really due to the hard work of our volunteers like

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Brian and Terry and our speakers, uh you know, who've

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really really made that event what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've always had a good lineup of a speaker,

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some very very famous ones, and you always have extra events.

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I mean, uhh, who was the bigfoot researcher that just

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passed that taught people how to properly cast a footprint? Oh,

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doctor Meltram, doctor doctor Jeffrey Meldrim, yeah, you had falconers

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in there one time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we did that was that was pretty speciful. We

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had we had a local falconer group come in and

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they had the you know, their birds of prey and

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people could you know, sort of get up close to

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them and that was really that was really cool.

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Speaker 1: We also had.

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Speaker 6: A a contest formentary school kids, uh in Guernsey County

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and so all these schools participated in this Bigfoot contest

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where they would draw big Foot and we posted it

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up in the hallway and I think Briand and Terry

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you remember you remember uh judging that event and we

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had the our teachers from a couple of the schools

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join us, and it was a really it was a

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really fun event. And uh it was really fun to

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see the you know, the kids drawings, and you know

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some of them were you know, really really I thought,

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really great. So I think that all the kids did

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a great job. And that was one of the things

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that I remember very vividly, was it was that drawing contest.

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I mean, what you think about it, Brian and Terry

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when you judged it, Oh.

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Speaker 4: That was was fun. It was fun and everybody enjoyed that.

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It was really cool and a different thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you you have a lot of sort

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of extracurricular activities. One night, you had some poor sap

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and a bigfoot suit wandering along in the woods, and

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you had a whole line of people going out there.

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You had uh uh, you had I think you had

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knocks going on and uh anyway, like like a real

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bigfoot encounter, people had to accurately uh cover exactly what

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was going on. And I think maybe it's even see

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if they could get a photograph of the bigfoot. I'm

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not sure, but you had go. Yeah, Steve.

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Speaker 6: So one of the you know, one of the the

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big criticisms of cryptozoological research is that why why don't

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we have a photograph? You know, people ask, well, if

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you know, if these things are out there, we should

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there should be more photographic evidence.

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Speaker 1: And so what we wanted to do.

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Speaker 6: Is highly how difficult it is to actually get a

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clear photograph and also how difficult it is, based on

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the witnesses to accurately uh identified you know, the distance,

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the size, and so we had it was kind of

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a contest. So we took people out into the woods

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and we every year we had this thing called the

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Lantern Tour, which Brian and Terry we were a part of,

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and you know, we take people out onto this uh

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this short it's a short trail. It's kind of a loop,

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but there's a trail. There had been you know, bigfoot

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sightings and it was in total pitch black dark. And

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then we'd go on the trail and there would be

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a person with a with a lantern in the group

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would assemble around that person. They would talk about a

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siding that happened on the trail. And we had you know,

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five or six stops along that along that trail. But

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one year we decided to have Billy dress up in

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a gilly suit and he would just randomly run out

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in front of the crowd and and their tasks and

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they were told beforehand that this was not you know

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that this wasn't but they were told to expect a

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person in the guilty suitt to run out and their

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task was to one get a photograph of the person

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in the gilly suit as they ran across their field

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of view. And two, when they came back to the lodge,

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they had to fill out a questionnaire you know, how

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far how far did you you know was the creature

472
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,319
from you, how tall do you think the creature was?

473
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,640
And you know, we got as you can imagine from

474
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,240
all the people who went out there, the answers were

475
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,079
all over the place, but there were a couple that

476
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,519
were right on the mark, right almost almost down to

477
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,559
the inch about how tall the person was, which was

478
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:43,000
pretty impressive. But for the most part, yeah, I mean,

479
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,119
different people had different perceptions of you know, distance and

480
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,319
height and Brian and Terry do you do you remember that?

481
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it was fun. That was fun. Yeah.

482
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: And what were the prizes for the guy that won?

483
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,839
It seemed like it took a pretty good haul.

484
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,039
Speaker 6: You know, I can't I can't recall. I don't know

485
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,680
if there I don't know if there was a prize.

486
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,599
I think there might have been a certificate or something.

487
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

488
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,599
Speaker 1: I think he I think he went away with a

489
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,000
bunch of loot, you know, I mean, some some stuff,

490
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,960
but I don't don't remember. But yeah, yeah, so it'd

491
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,359
be yeah, it was always Oh and and you know

492
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,279
Salt Force State Park on the Lodge, there's it's just phenomenal.

493
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,079
Speaker 8: Uh.

494
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, So hopefully it will uh it will be revived someday.

495
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always a lot of fun in Uh. One

496
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,680
of the things I always look for at that event

497
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:34,839
was just seeing people that you only see maybe once

498
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:38,480
a year at that specific event, you know, and you

499
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:42,000
kind of get used to seeing the same people attend

500
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,640
the event, you know, over and over again, and you know,

501
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,799
and and Salt Fork is it holds a special place

502
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,519
in my heart too, because that that is where I

503
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,759
met Brian and Terry and uh, you know, they were there,

504
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:57,160
I think attending Don Keating's event he had for many years.

505
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,279
He had a Bigfoot conference there and and I think

506
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Brian Cherry came with a bunch of other people at

507
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,480
the time, they were living in Pennsylvania, right, and that's

508
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:11,759
why that's how I came to know them, and we uh,

509
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:14,680
you know it came to be good friends. And I

510
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:21,000
attended many Pennsylvania events over the following years and really

511
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:29,240
and really enriched my therapist through my interactions with the seeches.

512
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,599
Speaker 4: And hey, Steve one of the most you know, the

513
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,559
most iconic moments of Creature Weekend when he gave our

514
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,920
good friend Fred Seluga the interdimensional of.

515
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:47,519
Speaker 1: The Year, Yes, talk about that of all explained that

516
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,960
there have been instances where Bruce was very much in

517
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000
the shall we say, flesh and blood category. Fred Seluga

518
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,839
Rest of God, rest his soul no longer with us

519
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,039
was very much on the paranormal end. And Fred I

520
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,839
remember at the moth Van Festival. Fred would be up

521
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,680
there speaking when it was in the State Theater and

522
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,480
and mister rabble rouser creature seeker would get up and

523
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,200
ask ask him, well, where's your proof? You know what,

524
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,559
you know, you have to be specific, where's your proof?

525
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:21,680
So anyway, go tell us about this, uh, this board

526
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,640
that was created for Fred Seluga. I know, I think.

527
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,519
Speaker 6: Brian was there. Brian was partently. I think Brian was

528
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,200
helping when the presentation at the time, right, But but

529
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,640
you know, Steve, you mischaracterized the whole.

530
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,559
Speaker 1: The whole, Oh, I don't know.

531
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, because first of all, it was

532
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,880
a packed it was a packed auditorium. It was the

533
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,200
old movie theater in Point Pleasant and you know, uh,

534
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:50,480
Fred and I had some disagreements about how he collected

535
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:55,680
his evidence, and so he would brag about the fact

536
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,319
that he would collect these these you know narratives, you know,

537
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,559
down at the local pub. And I I just suggested,

538
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400
perhaps you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to

539
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,559
get the most credible witnesses at a pub, you know,

540
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,720
and he, you know, he became incensed. Anyway, what about

541
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,960
pubs in England versus pubs in the US. Let's let's

542
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,960
have a discussion on that.

543
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: What do you think?

544
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 6: Well so, and then he would you would proceed to

545
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,160
you know, because he we disagreed. He I think that

546
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,799
at that one time he called security. Yeah, he actually

547
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,920
called security to have me ejected from the event. And

548
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:47,359
fortunately that event had no security, so I was spared

549
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:52,079
the indignity of being kicked out. But uh, you know,

550
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,519
we would We were banter back and forth like that

551
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,759
all the time. And so at Creature Weekend I think

552
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,799
was what Brian, was it twenty fourteen?

553
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,319
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, I don't remember that. I don't remember. Yeah,

554
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,000
you probably you're that or really really close.

555
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was twenty fourteen. I presented Fred

556
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,400
Sluga the Interdimensional Bigfoot Award at Creature Weekend.

557
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: And I describe it, what did it look like?

558
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: It was a trophy with it was just basically a

559
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,240
trophy with Bigfoot on it that that had the plaque

560
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:33,119
that said internentional Bigfoot award, and so he loved it.

561
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,759
But there were people who did not like it at all.

562
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,920
And one of this one of the people was a

563
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720
woman who was in his group, and she got up

564
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160
and she said that, you know, that was I was

565
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,519
being disrespectful, and she stormed out. And then there was

566
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:55,839
another person who was he was awesome. He was equally incensed,

567
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:58,880
but for a different reason because he thought he deserved

568
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,759
an award and he didn't get an award. And I

569
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:05,400
think he totally missed the fact that it was it

570
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,880
was a joke. It was you know, it wasn't it

571
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:09,000
just meant to be fun.

572
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: But didn't didn't Fred treasure that trophy.

573
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,039
Speaker 4: He loved that trophy. He loved it, he honestly, and

574
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,000
I tell Bruces all the time, I'm like, he got him.

575
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,359
You couldn't like take the smile off his face at

576
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,880
that night. He was just so, you know, he was like,

577
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,640
this is so cool. And he kept that until I

578
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,680
think it eventually like it fell and break. I think

579
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,160
this cat knocked it down. But once it broke, But

580
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,440
he had that for he had that for years.

581
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 6: He would actually tour, he would actually tour with that.

582
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,079
He would take it to his his presentations with him

583
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,720
and well, at least that's what he told me. But

584
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,039
you know, he he was a really fred.

585
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I really miss him.

586
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 6: He was a really good sport and uh, you know,

587
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,119
even though he and I we we'd always you know,

588
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
needle each other both publicly.

589
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: You know, it was very entertaining.

590
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,279
Speaker 6: It was it was and it was it was mostly

591
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:02,680
for entertain and it uh, you know, in behind the

592
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,759
scenes we'd get together and we'd actually have very sibyl

593
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:10,400
and very you know, very great lunches and you'd always

594
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,679
come to the camp out your creature weekend and just

595
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,400
hang out with us for a couple of hours down

596
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,800
at Salt Fork, and you know, yeah, he was. He

597
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,239
was a really good support about that. Let me do

598
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,719
our little intermission here.

599
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Highest Strangest Factor copyrighted on

600
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,079
the Paranoble UK Radio network tonight on our seventh anniversary.

601
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,159
We think it's the seventh. Uh. Brian and Terry Seech

602
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,840
are back. They're always here for the anniversary show along

603
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,719
with the mysterious Creature Seeker. Terry. I have a question

604
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,800
for you in the in the intro, it talks about

605
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,440
you having experiences as a as a young girl into

606
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:56,159
adulthood with apparitions with ghosts and and also seeing UFOs.

607
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360
What what was it like growing up? And it would

608
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,079
have scared the crap out of me when I was

609
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:03,920
a kid. I imagined, you know, when I was upstairs

610
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,440
and my dad refinished the attic and I had nice bedroom,

611
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,320
but the you know, the heat duck would expand and contract,

612
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,639
and it sounded like somebody who was walking in my

613
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,960
bedroom at night. Of course, you know you hide under

614
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,320
the covers. Covers are magical and they protect you from monsters.

615
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,440
But what it was, what was it like for you

616
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,679
as a child to have those experiences?

617
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:26,599
Speaker 8: Well, my parents thought I was nuts.

618
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: You are nuts.

619
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:30,199
Speaker 1: I'll suck at that.

620
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

621
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: The one, the one particular time is when my parents

622
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
had gone. I was on a bowling team and they

623
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,480
would go bowling every Thursday night. And when I was

624
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:46,599
a young teenager, they let me babysit my brother and sister.

625
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:48,559
Speaker 8: We used to have babysitters before that.

626
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 7: And the one night my brother was put to bed

627
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,480
before my parents left for their outing, and then my

628
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:58,679
sister had gone to bed, I was in the bathroom

629
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,079
and I heard somebody walking in the hallway, and I

630
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,000
thought my sister had gotten up, and I went out

631
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,199
to look and check on my brother and sister. They

632
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,320
were both sound asleep. So I heard footsteps walking.

633
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 8: In the hallway, and I don't know where or who

634
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,320
it was. I'm assuming it was the ghost. But yeah,

635
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,880
I grew up with a ghost in the house.

636
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever actually see it or did you just yeah?

637
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 7: No, Well I heard it the one time, and then

638
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,039
the other times things would disappear. I would be getting

639
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,559
my clothes ready for school the night before, you know,

640
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,360
ironing my shirt whatever, I'll leave them on the ironing board.

641
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,519
Next morning, I'd go downstairs and something from my ensemble

642
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:44,960
would be missing, and then it would be maybe days

643
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,760
or a week later when it would reappear.

644
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: Huh. Now how long did this go on for? How

645
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,159
many you know, how old were you when did it disappear? Ever?

646
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 8: Or yeah, maybe a couple of years.

647
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Well it was it just pretty much to that house, yes, okay.

648
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,800
And and you also saw UFOs when you were young.

649
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,599
Speaker 7: Yes, when my dad would play games with us out

650
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,039
with the neighborhood kids on the street and we were

651
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:20,480
out playing kick the can or something this one time

652
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:24,320
and It was in the early evening and we my

653
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,760
dad was out there and the neighborhood kids. We all

654
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:34,760
seen this silver cylindrical object go across the sky.

655
00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were you had Oh I didn't tell

656
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,519
you the whole story. Okay. Well, the one.

657
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 7: Friend that was out with me was in the same

658
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,079
grade as Brian. She ran home to call Brian. This

659
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,079
is before we met. She ran home to call Brian

660
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:51,519
to let him know what was going on, and he

661
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,679
wanted to come check it out, but at the time

662
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,320
his mother wouldn't let him.

663
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, a couple miles apart, different neighborhoods.

664
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: So mom said, no, you're not going to go out

665
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,320
and check that UFO.

666
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 7: No.

667
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,199
Speaker 4: So the next day me and my friend Kent went

668
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:11,119
and we it went over the woods. So we walked

669
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,320
on into the woods, looking around, looking up at the trees.

670
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,599
Maybe it did some damage to the trees or something.

671
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,760
That was actually my first ufover report and but nothing

672
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,559
ever came of it. And unfortunately, my you know, my

673
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,599
friend Ken, he had passed. He passed when he drowned.

674
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,320
He was really young up in the eerie and if

675
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,239
not he was going for which I forget chemistry or

676
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,239
something very smart, very smart. I'm sure he would have

677
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000
been part of our group to this day.

678
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:43,159
Speaker 1: By the way, Susie and Andy jump in anytime, especially especially

679
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,800
if you want to harass the Creature Seeker, that's that

680
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,320
would be the first thing you should do, you know, Steve.

681
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,559
Speaker 6: Speaking of anniversaries, this is the fortieth anniversary of the

682
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:57,000
Center for Unexplained Events. Yes, that is forty years. Brian

683
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,239
and Terry have been harassing people.

684
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 4: And each other and each other so but but real quick,

685
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400
what I do want to say. You know, our organization,

686
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960
we it's always been a smaller organization. We've had so

687
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:16,440
many great people help us with with with research, helping us,

688
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,360
you know, letting us speak and things like that. And

689
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,320
two of them are right here, Steve Ward and Bruce

690
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:27,079
I mean, and Creature Seeker. You guys have both supported

691
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,760
us and our organization, not just us. We we don't

692
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,639
we just like to see we're an organization. We're although

693
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:38,239
we you know, we're the founders. We wouldn't be anywhere

694
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,119
the where we are if it wasn't for people even

695
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:43,440
like Fred, doctor Paul Johnson, Dave and Carrie Rupert, Leah

696
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,960
A Leah Madden, all these people have been with us

697
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:53,840
for years, right, and they they just like a Aurora, sorry,

698
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,719
and all of these people. What people don't understand any

699
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,079
kind of successful you have to have people helping you.

700
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:03,679
Never do it by yourself, okay never. And we are

701
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,280
blessed to have you know, all these people help us.

702
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,360
And you know there's a lot of great people in

703
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,239
this field that will help you if you ask. So,

704
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,280
you know, thanks everybody anyone else has listening who's ever

705
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,679
helped us.

706
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: We appreciate.

707
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 6: I'd like to say too. One of the things that

708
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,159
really distinguishes Brian and Terry from a lot of researchers,

709
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,000
and one of the reasons why I really enjoy having

710
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,400
them as friends is because they're so willing to help

711
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,119
other people with their research. One of my earliest interactions

712
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,119
with them is that, you know, they're always willing to like, hey,

713
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,039
here's a here's an article, or here's a DVD or

714
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,239
a CD. Uh, and they're just they'll just give you,

715
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:52,039
you know, these you know, these resources and not expecting

716
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,960
anything in return. And they're always doing that, uh with people.

717
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:58,760
And so one of the reasons why I think there's

718
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:03,920
so well respect did in this field is their willingness

719
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,840
to help other people. So they certainly reciprocate, and I

720
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,239
think that they really deserve a lot of credit for

721
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,159
that because it's you know, a lot of times people

722
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:21,280
are very possessive of their resources, but Brian Terry have

723
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,280
always been very giving and very generous.

724
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some people that are We've we've had

725
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,280
discussions about some of those people that are very protective

726
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:36,440
about their their research. We do have to spend a

727
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,599
little time. We'll just do a reader's digest version. But

728
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:44,079
it's tradition for us to talk about an event that

729
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,360
Brian never lets me forget. You'll say, out of a

730
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,559
clear blue hey, Steve, you know it was in the

731
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:55,320
Mothman Prophecies movie. So please, I'm sure you know, if

732
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,679
people go back to the other anniversary shows, they'll hear

733
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,199
maybe a bigger uh a discussion about it. But you've

734
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,719
got to you've got to tell it, at least a

735
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,039
reader's digest version of what happened and how? And you

736
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,599
know it was filmed in catan Well were you in Catanning, Pennsylvania?

737
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,559
Speaker 4: I was Upburgh Cathedral of Learning And actually this is

738
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,880
very funny and I forgot to post this we oh, yeah,

739
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,519
that my brother was in a hospital in Pittsburgh, and

740
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,440
you know he came, he came back. He's feeling a

741
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,639
lot better. Last weekend, we draw right by the cathedral

742
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,840
learning and I took a took a quick pick and

743
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440
I said, boy, if we had time, Terry, I would go,

744
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,159
I do my I would do my walk and then

745
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:39,880
you can you can film it. We can send it

746
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,639
to Steve and do it.

747
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 8: Well.

748
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,679
Speaker 1: Explained For people that haven't seen the film and don't

749
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
know about your part of the film, what what What

750
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,480
was your dynamic moment in the Mothman Prophecies movie starring

751
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:55,079
Richard gear, Laura Lenny, and Will Patton.

752
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 4: So so basically when I when I found out they

753
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,119
were auditioning for extra in Pittsburgh, so I sent my UH,

754
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,559
I sent my my picture in and my my bio,

755
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:09,880
and so did Terry. Actually, she actually was going to

756
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,159
do the one the uh, the part in Catanning, but

757
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,280
he kickened out that he wouldn't go. He didn't go,

758
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,079
but it was at night. It wasn't night.

759
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 8: It was in the middle of the night, and I couldn't.

760
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,639
I had to come by myself.

761
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 4: So so I actually filmed for for for for two parts,

762
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,039
the one never uh I was in. So basically the

763
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:29,920
first part were Richard Gear's in the park and he

764
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,039
looks up and almost like you know, the camera comes

765
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:34,039
down on him. I was on the total offosite side

766
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,679
walking with a woman that was there an extra. But

767
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960
the part that I was in for maybe two second.

768
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,039
Speaker 1: So you didn't they didn't make the final cut.

769
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:44,679
Speaker 4: No, that one didn't. That one didn't because I was

770
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:46,599
too far on the other side of it. It was

771
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,480
there was a huge, huge field and I was on

772
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:50,000
the other side. But the one that I did make

773
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:54,599
really briefly, like maybe two seconds worth, is when Richard Gear,

774
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,719
uh Richard Gear and John Leek were uh walking up

775
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,480
the steps yep, going to the library to go talk.

776
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,880
When they were talking in the library, well, if you

777
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,599
look at first fit two seconds, there's two people coming

778
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,840
towards the towards the camera. I'm the one with the briefcase.

779
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,079
So that was my claim to fame, and I always

780
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,920
tease I always tease Steve about that, and he always

781
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,320
teases me about the briefcase.

782
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,559
Speaker 1: So I always accused him of stuffing the food from

783
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,519
the lunch tray in his briefcase and not having to

784
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:30,199
go grocery shopping for a couple of weeks.

785
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 4: Hey, they fed us really well, like they they We

786
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,480
were fed twice breakfast and then a lunch. And it

787
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,559
was if anyone ever gets a chance to do that,

788
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,519
just to be an extra sit, walk or whatever, it's

789
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,159
just such a it's such a like a cool learning experience.

790
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:50,159
And we were being that other guy who was with me.

791
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:55,800
We're standing and there was a trailer and we were

792
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,880
literally like we looked in the window and we saw

793
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,360
Richard Gear getting his hair puffed up and using a

794
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400
they were using the hair dryer because it was really

795
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,320
cold that day. A little bit of slurries, and uh,

796
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,559
we're looking at each other and saying, man, it must

797
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,280
be great to be a star because he's in there

798
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,480
and we're out there freezing.

799
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 7: It was.

800
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,199
Speaker 4: It was funny. So it's just something, you know, if

801
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,119
I ever get a I mean, I've gotten chances. I've

802
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,960
been in some other movies, like you know, I don't know,

803
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360
it's great see movies. I don't know what you call, uh,

804
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,679
but uh even got to talk and in them. But

805
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,119
just to do that on a big scale like that

806
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,239
was it was. It was, it was fun. I like

807
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:33,840
to do it again.

808
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: It's funny. They gotta they sent you a face shot

809
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,079
and they can barely see your whole body and the

810
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:41,920
clip that you're in.

811
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. I mean even our friend Dwayne, Dwayne Pentoff

812
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,679
was in the scene. I guess yes or something.

813
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: He was a uh, he's still in the movie. But

814
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,599
it's even more brief than yours, isn't it? Yah? Yeah,

815
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,519
how about that?

816
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: But it's fun. We always tea Steve, Hey, Steve, did

817
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,119
I ever tell you? Well?

818
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,159
Speaker 1: Creature Seeker and I have signed up for what's the

819
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,840
date on that.

820
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,599
Speaker 6: Sometime in May? I think, Steve, at the end of May.

821
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: It's like a walking tour in Catanning, Pennsylvania, where they

822
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,920
filmed a lot of the principal photography duplicating for Point Pleasant,

823
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,719
and so we're going to get a walking tour and

824
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,239
go around and see some of the areas they filmed there,

825
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,280
and then to be a showing of the Mothman Prophecies

826
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,599
film later that evening.

827
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, that should be fun.

828
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of events, Brian and Terry, we're all going

829
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
to be part of an event coming up in April,

830
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Is that right? Yes, what's the date? Eighteenth? Okay, Christine

831
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:51,679
Soldis has put together a cryptid panel representing Mothman Bigfoot,

832
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,000
and I'm not sure how many people total we're going

833
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,480
to be on the panel, but it's going to be

834
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,559
for a few hours at the Full Park Library, I

835
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,719
think in Pennsylvania, and it should be a lot of

836
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,039
fun now. She set it up so I actually don't

837
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,960
have to travel there, which would be all right because

838
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,079
I get the uh, I get the red carpet treatment

839
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,039
when I stay at the Seeches and I get to

840
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:16,320
play with their cats and everything.

841
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,119
Speaker 7: Uh.

842
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm going to apparently I'm gonna be on

843
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,039
the big screen. I don't know how big the screen is.

844
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 4: It's a TV screen, I think, right, a TV Okay,

845
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,920
that's what I think Ryan was. He was on the

846
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,440
TV screen.

847
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: Line.

848
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,199
Speaker 1: It's not like a huge uh you know, smart TV screen?

849
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:36,440
ID it is, Okay, Well.

850
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: It's a long it's a long thing. It's over a

851
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,880
two and a half hours, so.

852
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, almost three.

853
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna play the great and powerful Oz. I

854
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,119
think if I'm up there on the screen above everybody,

855
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:49,519
and I'm going to embarrass Brian and ask him if

856
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:51,599
he wants a heart, courage or a brain.

857
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeh, I'll take the brain, Steve.

858
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,199
Speaker 1: So that's what I think.

859
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,559
Speaker 6: That's very ingenious of Christine to want, you know, to

860
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:01,440
be able to bump up her ten by announcing you're

861
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:03,000
you're not being there, Steve.

862
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:08,159
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? People want autographs, they want to they

863
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:09,159
want to interact with me.

864
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:15,039
Speaker 4: I think there's a if what Robert Solomon, Jamie and Jenny,

865
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Me and then you and then Fret We're going to

866
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480
have a special seat, you know, have an empty seat

867
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,079
there for a Frida with his picture because he was

868
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:22,960
supposed to be there too.

869
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Steve, why why do you get special treatment? Why

870
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,400
do you get to a time remotely?

871
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,159
Speaker 1: Well, she figures, I'm, you know, an old guy, and

872
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:35,079
you know, traveling so far from home, I might not

873
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,639
be able to find my way back, you know.

874
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 6: Okay, she probably didn't want to spring for the diapers.

875
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, well they're not that expensive. But anyway, sense creature

876
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,719
seeker is harassing me a little bit. I have another

877
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,840
story to tell on him. Oh uh, Brian and Terry,

878
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,639
I don't think you were there, but we for the

879
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:59,199
Mofman Festival on Friday night, a lot of times a

880
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,440
bunch of US Congress grate at Village Pizza. Village Pizza

881
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:07,360
used to be Tinese restaurant. Famous Mothmand siding took place overhead. Uh,

882
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,239
the Scarberrys and the Mallets went there first because Linda

883
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,360
Scarberry worked there. After they saw the Mothman before they

884
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,920
went to the police department. So anyway, we're in this

885
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,639
adjoining wing now that the Village Pizza is in a

886
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,320
new building now right next door. But they've got these

887
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,280
long tables. It was a nice place to accommodate all

888
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,280
the people that would show up sometimes. And so we're

889
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,760
all sitting there and we realize we don't have any silverware.

890
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:38,079
So Creature Seekert, tell us what you did? Yeah, you're yeah,

891
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,880
I think that.

892
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:42,199
Speaker 6: I think yeah, the seatures were definitely there. Okay, Well,

893
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,119
you know so that that tiny restaurant, they they do

894
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,840
a lot of business the weekend of the Mothman festival,

895
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:56,440
so uh, I think they probably, you know, at that time,

896
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,039
they probably hadn't staffed up or they weren't expecting, you know,

897
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,719
that kind of volume. But it was really really busy.

898
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:05,679
Place was packed, and we came in with a very

899
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,400
large group of people. How many people Brian and Terry

900
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,480
do you think we're in our group?

901
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 4: At least twenty if not twenty?

902
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And so you know, the we found ourselves

903
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,239
waiting a long time to order and to get our food,

904
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,679
and we've you know, we finally you know, received our food,

905
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,440
but no silverware, and so we could we could not

906
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:33,559
get the attention of the server. She was a really

907
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:38,880
nice young girl, and uh so, in desperation, I actually

908
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,079
phoned in the restaurant and we we actually got the

909
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,079
server on the phone and requested silver and of course,

910
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,360
you know, when she found out we were actually sitting

911
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,199
in the restaurant, she was not she was not amused,

912
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,639
let's just say. But we did get our silverware. Consequently

913
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,199
said things like uh oh miss uh get me two

914
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:04,519
waters and put them on my tab.

915
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:10,079
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Bruce, Bruce always harasses the that's

916
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,800
the wait.

917
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:14,559
Speaker 1: That's not even true. Yes, I've been out with Brian.

918
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,159
Speaker 6: I've been out with Brian and Terry uh on many

919
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,159
dinners and they would always turn the weight staff against me.

920
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: And so.

921
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, not wait, I have to tell a story.

922
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 7: Oh no, for that restaurant in Newcastle, we went to yeah, Well,

923
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Bruce decided he was going to introduce himself to the staff.

924
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,079
The staff introduced themselves. They said, I'm whatever their name was,

925
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,639
I'll be your server tonight, and Bruce says, nice to

926
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:42,239
meet you.

927
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: My name is Bruce. I will be yourself, I will

928
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,039
be your customers.

929
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Are Are we just airing dirty laundry tonight? Yeah, that's

930
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,199
what people tune in for.

931
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 5: I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I do see

932
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:08,920
a pattern, im So, first that guy called security on you,

933
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,760
Then Brian and Terry are turning the weight staff against you.

934
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,639
They're obviously all out to get you.

935
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 6: Well, I have to give him a hard time because

936
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,119
when I go to eat with Brian and Terry, it

937
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:24,280
takes so long for Terry to make up her mind

938
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,480
what she's staring at the menu, like she has to

939
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,679
memorize it. I'm like, Terry, you just have to order

940
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,920
off of it. You don't have to recite it like

941
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:35,159
impromptu at any given time in the future.

942
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 1: You know.

943
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 6: But she's very she's a very discerning eater apparently.

944
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: But by the way, I'm going to excuse myself for

945
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,639
just a moment. Please keep the conversation going and keep

946
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:46,320
it clean.

947
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 8: All right, now change the diaper.

948
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: Stories about Steve, Well, Steve that guy, he always he's

949
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,000
always in these situations.

950
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 6: So you know, he had his computer issue. But looking

951
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,360
back over the years, I've had to at the Butler conference,

952
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,639
I had to jump start his car because his battery

953
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,039
was dead one year, and then last the year before

954
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:19,440
last year, he was feeling under the weather, so I

955
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:23,159
had to give him some uh medication so that he

956
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:27,719
could at least do his presentation. Brian and Ted, what

957
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:33,960
are the things Steve like? He's been in other predicaments

958
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,199
as well that have required other people to sort of

959
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:37,239
bail them out.

960
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,199
Speaker 4: But didn't he have a problem with his presentations at

961
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,119
Butler the one year?

962
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,679
Speaker 8: Just get getting the computer?

963
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you know that does have that's happened

964
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,679
to us two It happened on just one time, thank god,

965
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,880
but it happened. Sometimes he just thinks, just don't sink up,

966
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,679
and it's it's the scariest part of doing any presentation.

967
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,679
If your presentation isn't gonna work.

968
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Brian, you guys have done hundreds of presentations. Steve, Yes,

969
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:12,920
he just asked to do one. He you know, you

970
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,280
know who helped him with that ticket ticket guys who

971
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:15,960
helped you.

972
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

973
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I feel like I have done more than

974
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,360
my fair share of you know, helping out mister Ward

975
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:29,519
with you know, his life.

976
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: So maybe he should give me a break. You know.

977
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:35,599
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's a.

978
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:41,039
Speaker 7: Maybe he thinks you sabotage him just to make it

979
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:42,719
look that you're helping him out.

980
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: You know what.

981
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 6: Like you know, that's what I like about you. You

982
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:48,000
always look at the you know, you'res a glass half

983
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,880
full type of person. That's what I like about you.

984
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, just you know, just like uh, he's

985
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,840
he's just like that.

986
00:54:57,199 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're still here.

987
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 4: Actually, hey, Bruce, that's that's just like Tom Brady, you know,

988
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,360
deflates the ball halfway.

989
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,159
Speaker 6: Oh yeah yeah. So here's another story. So I think so, Brian,

990
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:14,199
you were giving a presentation at Kexsburgh, right, they had

991
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Kexburgh has a they have a like a festival every year.

992
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,840
So one year we're at Xsburgh and so you know,

993
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,280
Brian said, hey, you know, I'm speaking at Kexsburgh if

994
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,199
you want to stop by, So you know, yeah, sure,

995
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,519
It's like it's only fifteen hours from Boston.

996
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: Why not.

997
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 6: So I make the effort to go attend his presentation

998
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:39,840
and during the presentation, this was like during the I

999
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,880
don't know if you remember, but one year there was

1000
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:51,679
some sort of a issue where the football was deflated

1001
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,719
for one of for one of the I don't know

1002
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:56,679
what what year was that Brian was, uh.

1003
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:58,639
Speaker 4: I don't remember the exact year, but yeah, that was

1004
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,199
that was just one of the many that the.

1005
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,679
Speaker 1: No, it was, it was one of those.

1006
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 6: It was one of those conspiracy theories that the Pittsburgh

1007
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,119
Steelers fans always had to come up with, that the

1008
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,679
thea the Patriots deflated the football and that's how they

1009
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,480
were able to get their you know, subsequent six Super

1010
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,880
Bowl wins. But uh so, during this presentation, he tells

1011
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,840
the people, now, it's a packed room. He tells the people, Oh,

1012
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,519
by the way, you know, it's a it's a packed

1013
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:35,440
room full of Pittsburgh Steelers fans. And he says, oh,

1014
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,039
by the way, if you go out and find the

1015
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:42,000
tires on your cars deflated, it's probably because of the

1016
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:47,039
New England Patriots fans sitting right there. And I don't

1017
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,079
think Brian understands it. You know, these people, they they

1018
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:54,320
don't know he's joking. These are like, these are common

1019
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,400
folk there. I thought they were ready to get out

1020
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,239
the pitchquarks.

1021
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,079
Speaker 4: Hey, but I did say, came all the way from

1022
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,440
from Boston. I said, you know, let's let's give my hand.

1023
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:05,920
And that's when I the end of the bus.

1024
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, thanks. Yeah.

1025
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,679
Speaker 6: So that that's what my life has been like ever

1026
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,599
since I met to see.

1027
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:21,519
Speaker 4: You this, Steve Bruce. Bruce cannot believe that even a

1028
00:57:21,519 --> 00:57:24,360
Bigfoot or a mothman creature can be interdimensional, but he

1029
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,000
thinks the Patriots won every Super Bowl fair and square.

1030
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you a story about a creature seeker.

1031
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:35,599
He was on as co host when I had Linda sigmannon,

1032
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:39,360
who was a mothman witness when she was and Chris

1033
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,480
Parsons and uh, we were talking about mothman, but the

1034
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,559
the subject changed to Bigfoot because she's had which sounds

1035
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:52,599
like Bigfoot activity on her property, you know, calls and

1036
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:55,960
knocks and that sort of thing. And uh, they talked

1037
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,719
about one night and this this kind of echoed. I think, Uh,

1038
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:04,079
what a creature seeker. Up Ron moorehead of who captured

1039
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:08,679
the Sierra Sounds and the Sierra Nevadash. So, so Linda

1040
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:13,000
and Chris one night they're hearing this tremendous racket outside

1041
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,519
pounding on the their house and everything. They're expecting to

1042
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:19,039
see things all torn up, but when they went out

1043
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,920
the next day, everything was in its place. And Creature Seeker,

1044
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,719
you brought up an incident that happened to Ron moorehead

1045
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,239
when he was out investigating Bigfoot. Yeah, well, so he had.

1046
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 6: A similar He had a similar thing happened where they

1047
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:35,760
were at.

1048
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,519
Speaker 1: The uh their you.

1049
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,159
Speaker 6: Know, secret Bigfoot camp where they recorded the Sierra sounds,

1050
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:44,320
and they heard a lot of commotion and they thought

1051
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,519
the camp was being ransacked. You know, they heard pots

1052
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:50,599
and pants being thrown around, and they thought that the

1053
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,519
camp was being ransacked, but none of them would dare

1054
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:56,559
to go out to investigate. And then the morning they

1055
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:59,559
went out and nothing had nothing had been touched.

1056
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,679
Speaker 1: They'd also seen strange lights, like long cigar shaped like

1057
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,840
lights floating through the trees and so forth. There seemed

1058
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,119
to be a lot of kind of anomalous activity in

1059
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:17,280
the same area. So, you know, would like I ask

1060
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,599
all of you guys, everybody, really, what do you think

1061
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,039
about the In some cases the paranormal aspects that seem

1062
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
to surround Bigfoot. I mean, he had the really bizarre

1063
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:31,519
cases in Pennsylvania in seventy three and seventy four. But

1064
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:33,840
even if you read the book Valley of the Skukum

1065
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:38,360
by it by Sally Shepherd Wolford, they had very sort

1066
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,480
of flesh and blood looking bigfoots, but there was a

1067
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:44,280
lot of high strangeness that surrounded them too. Some of

1068
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,639
them looked translucent. They had that they called sometimes they

1069
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,440
call it the quick silver curtain or the shimmer where

1070
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,039
it seems like some of these things passed through. So

1071
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,599
what do you guys think about? I mean, is there

1072
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:01,119
a duality? Are some of these things flesh and blood

1073
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,559
creatures that have not been documented? But are some of

1074
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:09,800
them perhaps more in the John keel realm uh got

1075
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,320
John Keelen? How about that surprise?

1076
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 8: Made it?

1077
01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:22,599
Speaker 1: I know it was. It was killing me man. Yeah,

1078
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,880
So what do you guys think?

1079
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: Well, you know what?

1080
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 7: What?

1081
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,599
Speaker 4: What what I think on that is everybody wants to

1082
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,880
put everything in a neat little box. It's either black

1083
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,559
or white, no no gray. I think a lot of

1084
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:37,639
these phenomena go in the shades of gray type thing.

1085
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,519
There could be even too phenomena. There could be some

1086
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:44,960
of these creatures that could do certain things. Maybe they

1087
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,639
could use a portal. I'm sorry, Bruce, I had to

1088
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:50,679
say that, or or their or the interdimensional. I'm sorry,

1089
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:51,719
brus I said that again.

1090
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: But again he's going to give you an inter dimensional

1091
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,079
Bigfoot Award.

1092
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: Yes, here's the thing, is we just I really believe

1093
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:05,280
we don't know. There's a lot of things that for

1094
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,639
bigfoot just to be a flesh and blood animal, I

1095
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:10,800
think we'd have a lot more proof. I'm sorry. I

1096
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,519
think we'd have more more sightings we'd have we'd have

1097
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:16,559
more prints, we'd have more deada animals we would have.

1098
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,519
Just me, it's just my thought that we would have

1099
01:01:20,599 --> 01:01:23,760
more proof if it was just, you know, say, a

1100
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,519
bear out there in the wood. I don't think we

1101
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:26,159
know for sure.

1102
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,239
Speaker 1: Well, Brian, where was it that you told me? There

1103
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,159
was a night some years ago you went out to

1104
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:34,440
an area where they had at least heard bigfoots. I

1105
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,280
mean they thought they thought it was a highly active,

1106
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,360
active area with bigfoots. You didn't find a bigfoot that night,

1107
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,119
but you guys saw a strange light in the sky

1108
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:51,960
acting in a very unconventional manner. We're talking about Livermore.

1109
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:56,119
Speaker 4: That was in the town. No, No, that was in

1110
01:01:56,239 --> 01:01:59,000
a Livermore in the I think it was what Indiana,

1111
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:03,360
West more Than County. On the order we were out Indiana, Indiana. Yeah,

1112
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,960
we were on the West pen And Trail.

1113
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 8: And India that Indiana p a.

1114
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the West Penn Trail it goes over

1115
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,639
the woods that the Conamall River right at them. And

1116
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,559
we were there to do a bigfoot uh observation and

1117
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:27,320
we split up into two groups. And before was it

1118
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,039
before we left that Leah laughed and we heard the scream.

1119
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Aurora laughed and we heard the scream our friend, Uh.

1120
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 8: He's talking about the lights.

1121
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were with Nutricia. Well that happened that night.

1122
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:46,920
We had uh, Aurora and some of the people. We

1123
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,800
were getting ready to break up into two groups, and

1124
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:54,920
I got my we got our friend. Aurora's the laugh

1125
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,599
and she has like the funniest laugh. And I know

1126
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:02,840
that Uh, creature Seeker and Steve have heard that laugh.

1127
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,239
Very unusual laugh.

1128
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: And it carries over a so it carried.

1129
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 4: We were on top of a bridge on top of

1130
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,679
the Klamo River, part of the trail, is a bridge,

1131
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,000
and we heard like a scream after she remember, and

1132
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:26,079
we heard a scream. It's like a ah, And then

1133
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:29,519
it stopped and everything there echoes because there's a big valley.

1134
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:32,960
It's just yeah. And so we stayed there about ten minutes.

1135
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,639
Heard nothing else after that. So we walked myself, Patricia

1136
01:03:37,679 --> 01:03:40,960
and I think a couple other people walk down how

1137
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,320
about it Man, maybe about a mile and we were

1138
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,000
on still on the West Pen Trail. But we see

1139
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:50,519
this light and it looks like a white light and

1140
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:53,119
it looks like it's bobbing like almost like I say,

1141
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:56,519
it almost looks like a someone carrying a railroad lantern,

1142
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:59,360
like the railroad people who worked on the railroad those lanterns,

1143
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,440
and they would swim as they're walking, and it got

1144
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,639
close to us. I tried to film it on my

1145
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:10,280
night vision and it wouldn't take. But once I looked

1146
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,039
at it with my eye, I saw which was that

1147
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,480
was even kind of weird, And as we started to

1148
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:18,639
walk toward it, it just disappeared. Another time, we were

1149
01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:23,440
at the same place and we saw a light in

1150
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,079
the sky, light in the sky, which it looked as

1151
01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:29,360
it was passing us. It almost looked like it split

1152
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,800
into two now Patricia the two lights. Yeah, Patricia has

1153
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,800
got it on film. They got it on film, and

1154
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,079
I don't think they've ever released that yet. So yeah,

1155
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:41,880
there's there's some weird we call them light spheres, light

1156
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,239
anomalies that more and more people are talking about in

1157
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,960
conjunction with bigfoot sightings or screams or things like that.

1158
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:53,400
I don't know if it's the same phenomena or two

1159
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,840
different phenomenas merging, you know, being at the same place

1160
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,199
at the same time, but.

1161
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: This it was the area was kind of of known

1162
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,679
for bigfoot activity. Yes, sightings and no and the calls

1163
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:06,239
or whatever.

1164
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:10,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and there's actually uh uh, doctor Paul Johnson

1165
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:13,119
gave us a picture of a photo of a I

1166
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:16,559
think it was like a fourteen inch footprint, uh, right

1167
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:20,679
up in Livermore Cemetery, which is right above the right

1168
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:21,360
above the trail.

1169
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:27,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, now, now Bross Creatures Rolo Tomasi has been

1170
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:30,320
very quiet, So I think what he's doing, he's constructing

1171
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,679
a interdimensional bigfoot award for you, Brian.

1172
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was treasure it like Fred did.

1173
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,559
Speaker 6: I'm sure you would, you know. Uh, I think the

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I think that award actually was lost to history only

1175
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because Fred caressed it to too much, and well that

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01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:55,920
brings up an image it fell into disrepair. Anyway, Look,

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I don't deny that there are other reality these you

1178
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can call them dimensions, alternate realities.

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Speaker 1: I don't deny that. I think, ah, when.

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Speaker 6: You the the math actually does point to the fact

1181
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that there exists other dimensions other than the three or

1182
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four that you know, I guess I am having difficulty

1183
01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:23,880
with just sort of answering a mystery with another mystery.

1184
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,679
So I think that you know, being able to you know,

1185
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just say, oh, well, the reason why we don't have

1186
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,599
a lot of evidence for the existence of you know,

1187
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:42,599
sasquatch or whatever is because they they're able to access

1188
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:44,719
these inter dimensional portals.

1189
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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too convenient.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I I just don't know. I mean,

1191
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,960
it's unclear to me how that would how that would work.

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01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:03,400
And I and I think that we really have to

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scrutinize this with.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit more more focused on, you know, the actual physics

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01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:16,719
of it. I mean, if we're to believe that these

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creatures are are real, that we can interact with them.

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That means that they are somehow physical if they're leaving

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behind footprints and scat and and hair, and it suggests

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01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:35,079
me that they are, that there's some tangibility, there's some

1201
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:38,719
physicalness to them, and and that that should be dictated

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:44,840
by Newtonian laws of physics. So, you know, if you

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,960
want to talk about like so Ron, you mentioned Ron Morehead.

1204
01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:53,719
He and I've had probably equally heated discussions because he's

1205
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,719
he's into quantum Bigfoot and he's written, I think he's

1206
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,679
written a book called Quantum big Foot, and you know,

1207
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,199
he and I have had these really heated discussions about

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01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:08,639
that before, and like and I think that this whole

1209
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:12,199
idea of like, you know, portals, I think it sort

1210
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:15,800
of became very popular after that movie Stargate, which was

1211
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,199
like what in the mid nineties, like ninety four or

1212
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,680
something like that, So people started talking more about this

1213
01:08:22,039 --> 01:08:24,000
stuff after that. And I think the whole idea of

1214
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:28,840
like portals and being able to access other dimensions via portals,

1215
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:31,880
I think it became kind of a cultural thing more

1216
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,520
than you know, I really think that that's what's going

1217
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,199
on here with you know, I think.

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Speaker 1: Ron Moorhead is talking actually talking about how these things

1219
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:43,000
sort of manifest I'm not even sure he's talking about portals. Well,

1220
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:46,760
some do somethink Bigfoot is flesh and blood, but somehow

1221
01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:50,760
passes through these portals and you know, they just kind

1222
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,640
of go elsewhere for a while. It seems like Quantum

1223
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,439
Bigfoot talks about these things sort of coming into existence,

1224
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,720
manifesting somehow. But I recommend Valley of the Skukum by

1225
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,520
Sally Shepherd Walford, a very very interesting book. And you know,

1226
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,439
Ron Moorehead was originally he was out there with Alan Barry,

1227
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,119
the reporter, who was skeptical at first, but he saw

1228
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:16,319
the events going on. But Alan Barry also saw the

1229
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:20,199
high strangeness aspects going on in the Sierra Nevadas, but

1230
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:23,680
he asked Ron Morehead not to report him right away

1231
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,199
because it was hard enough to get people to accept

1232
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,119
just a regular, happy, go lucky Harry flesh and blood Bigfoot,

1233
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,239
much less with all the paranormal trappings. But once Alan

1234
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:38,600
Barry passed, that's when Ron Moorhead came out with books

1235
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:39,680
like Quantum Bigfoot.

1236
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:43,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and Ron, I give him a lot

1237
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:44,640
of credit, but you know, I also give him a

1238
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,159
lot of ribbing too, because you know he he recorded

1239
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:53,239
those what people believed the ore Bigfoot vocalizations, and they're

1240
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,600
called the Sierra Sounds, And I kind of give him

1241
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,319
a ribbing that I thought the Sierra Sounds is the

1242
01:09:59,359 --> 01:10:05,680
name of his band back in the seventies. Classic classic creature.

1243
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:12,279
Speaker 4: Well, Bruce, for when we say, try not to explain

1244
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:17,039
a mystery with another mystery, why can't that be part

1245
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:21,199
of the mystery? So you see what I mean, We

1246
01:10:21,239 --> 01:10:24,479
don't know exactly. I still don't believe we know exactly

1247
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,239
what this creature may be able to do. Like when

1248
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:30,479
we talk about it, Let's go to aliens. How many

1249
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,640
reports aliens can seem like they can change their density

1250
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,600
and walk right through walls. Maybe these things can control

1251
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,319
an aura. Maybe they can control I don't know, something

1252
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,840
smarter than what I know. But what if they could

1253
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:52,199
somehow can you know, make themselves? And here's a word here,

1254
01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:59,319
seemingly invisible maybe not invisible, but to our eyes they've

1255
01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:03,319
become in visay I one little word changes the whole sentence,

1256
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:05,720
the whole thing there. Why can't they like, you know,

1257
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,520
seemingly to our eyes?

1258
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know. Barton Nunley, author of inhumanoids, talks

1259
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,560
about a lot of people that he knows have seen

1260
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,600
these things vanished or cloak or yeah, we.

1261
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 4: Had those reporting too. Not a lot, not a lot

1262
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:20,319
for sure.

1263
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,279
Speaker 1: So I have to ask Brian and Terry, what's what's

1264
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:27,279
next for you? Are you are there any big events

1265
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:30,000
coming up? Well besides the panel that I'll be on

1266
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:34,000
as the Great Oz, but what else is is ahead

1267
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:34,600
for you guys?

1268
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:40,159
Speaker 4: Well, I'm supposed to speak, uh what in July? Right

1269
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:46,399
July at a big Foot conference in Ohio. Ah, We're

1270
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,239
probably gonna douce one or two events up here, you

1271
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:52,079
know in Beaver County where we, you know, live most

1272
01:11:52,119 --> 01:11:54,279
of our lives, which is the next county up in

1273
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:58,319
PA and you know, hopefully the Mofman Festival. I have

1274
01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:01,279
to contact Jess. Oh yeah, I'd like to speak down there.

1275
01:12:02,199 --> 01:12:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll mention it to Jeff again. It'd be great

1276
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:05,680
to have you.

1277
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,279
Speaker 4: Back, Okay, Yeah, it'd be my third time, maybe my

1278
01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:12,159
third and final speaking anyway, not going down there, but.

1279
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:16,199
Speaker 1: Creature Seeker in the audience when you're speaking, so we

1280
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:18,359
can give you a bunch of can I say, ship

1281
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,800
on the high Strangus factor? Well, Steve I may even

1282
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,439
be a speaker who knows. Oh, good Lord, and then

1283
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Brian can give you crap. Yeah, the audience. Well, I

1284
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,119
think I'm about ready to wrap it up, but if

1285
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:37,720
anybody has any closing comments and remarks, please feel free.

1286
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 5: I had a follow up a question on something Roller

1287
01:12:42,039 --> 01:12:47,079
what's his name said a little while ago. There you go,

1288
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:51,800
Where can I find more information on bigfoot poop?

1289
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,119
Speaker 1: Oh?

1290
01:12:54,119 --> 01:13:00,279
Speaker 6: That's a good question, So I think, Uh, there have

1291
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:05,640
been reports of people who clean to have recovered bigfoot scat.

1292
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,239
Whether whether that actually is or not, you know, I

1293
01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:18,359
think still remains debatable, right. So I remember one researcher

1294
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:25,359
recovered what he thought was bigfoot scat because it had,

1295
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:33,560
you I, had elements of a type of hair in it,

1296
01:13:34,199 --> 01:13:38,319
and it turned out to be, you know, just something

1297
01:13:38,359 --> 01:13:43,720
that was digested. It was actually a coyote scat. But yeah,

1298
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,079
it's a good question, Susie.

1299
01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:46,039
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1300
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 6: I've heard many reports of people who claim that they've

1301
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,960
had bigfoot scat, and I never you know, followed up

1302
01:13:55,039 --> 01:13:57,520
with them to find out if that was ever confirmed

1303
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,279
or not. And there were a couple of it's is

1304
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:03,159
back in the early two thousands where people claim that

1305
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:08,039
they sent it the DNA to you know, some laboratory

1306
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:10,920
to be confirmed and it was lost or something like that.

1307
01:14:11,039 --> 01:14:14,039
But yeah, I don't know where you could go to

1308
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:17,119
actually find Yeah, this is bona fide Bigfoot Scott.

1309
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: You don't have any eight by ten glossies, do you? Yeah?

1310
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 6: But really the picture turned out like shit.

1311
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:33,039
Speaker 1: So with that, I think we'll bring the seventh anniversary

1312
01:14:33,119 --> 01:14:36,199
show to a close. Brian and Terry, thanks so much

1313
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:40,720
for being here to celebrate again. They having a High

1314
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,479
Strangers Factor having some longevity. Very happy to have Andy

1315
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,239
and Susie here along with me because if they weren't here,

1316
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:53,800
you know, Andy is the producer. Susie provides the streamlink.

1317
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,960
Otherwise I'm just talking to myself, which I do often

1318
01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:00,840
anyway at my age, so I guess. And Creature Seeker,

1319
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:05,199
thanks for being here at writing Shotgun and talking about

1320
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:12,720
bigfoot poop. Of course Susie instigated that, but that's all right,

1321
01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:17,399
all right, ladies and having us we appreciate it. Thanks

1322
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,800
for having us on. Steve star playing. The High Strangers

1323
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,439
Factor was created by Steve Ward and Andy Mercer and

1324
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,319
his Copyred and on the Paranormal UK Radio network are Fearless.

1325
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:31,880
Leaders here at the Network are Iron Alan Block, Mark Johnson,

1326
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:36,239
and Andy Mercer, and he's also producer and composer of

1327
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:39,520
the ends theme for The High Strangers Factor. Brian Zeller

1328
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:44,319
has composed the opening theme. Susie Bastiele provided the stream

1329
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:48,119
link the stream stream link, Yes, I won't keep one.

1330
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 7: No?

1331
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: Is that right? Or is it stream?

1332
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Speaker 5: No?

1333
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,319
Speaker 1: Stream yard, I keep screwing that up. I can also

1334
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:56,680
be heard from time to time with Paul Dale Roberts

1335
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:01,279
on his his panel on strap In for this one,

1336
01:16:01,319 --> 01:16:05,880
I didn't name it the ghost wankers. Don't take that literally,

1337
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,640
whatever you do, and on Hercules and Victis panel All

1338
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,119
Things Paranormal. Both shows have a wide variety of guests

1339
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,159
and cover a wide variety of subjects. I do many

1340
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:22,640
Mothman one oh one interviews, some farmed out by Jeff Walmsley,

1341
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:27,039
the creator of the Mothman Museum and found co founder

1342
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:30,119
of the Mothman Festival. We start out with Mothman, but

1343
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:34,760
the conversation always goes much further. You can often find

1344
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,720
me on Saturday afternoons at the world's only Mothman Museum

1345
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:42,439
in downtown Point Pleasant. Jeff also has the Point Pleasant

1346
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,680
Trading Company. Next door Bunker three h four, a vinyl shop,

1347
01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:50,479
Mothman black Light, mini golf, a Mothman escape room. It's

1348
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,680
a great place to visit. And I am Steve Lord

1349
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,439
with Susie Bastile and Addie Mercer. I am a displaced

1350
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,359
Michigander deep in the Ohio Valley, living on the same

1351
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,319
road that the Scarberries and malllets chase the moth Man.

1352
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,239
Chate was chased by the Mothman in of his sixties.

1353
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,000
Expect to hear the High Strangest Factor more often coming up.

1354
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,199
We will see you again, possibly in a fortnight. Take care,