WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:38.799 Well here we are back here, happy Wednesday, getting you 2 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.280 ready for the CFL Division Finals this weekend. The Marcast 3 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:45.600 here live, big announcements here coming in a second. 4 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:45.960 Like it. 5 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.759 Subscribe, We'll be here live from the Great Cup next weekend. 6 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.159 I'll give you all the details just in the living 7 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.320 room today. Couldn't marry together, everything set up. Spend busy 8 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:59.159 times here at America, busy times with work and everything else. 9 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.039 But we are here a love. We have Jason back 10 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.120 in the fold. We have Evan here, and then we 11 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.480 have the professor Andrew Murray who just got home. We 12 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.079 will be your rag Take group here next weekend at 13 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.439 the Great Cup. But first off, Jason, how are you? 14 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:17.359 We did last week with Anthony Miller talk semi division finals. 15 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:18.879 Now we're here for the finals. How are you doing? 16 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:19.680 So? 17 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:20.439 I'm doing good. 18 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.560 Read you know, exciting time a year and I'm excited 19 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:25.439 to be here in the Great Cups coming up. 20 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.239 Evan, it's been a couple of weeks there, it's been 21 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:29.519 a I don't even know a long time. 22 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:29.680 Here. 23 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.560 We got Evan back on talking CFL. We were talking 24 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:34.480 pre you know, pre coming on here. 25 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:35.760 We're all locked back in. 26 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.120 Jason, I said, last week. You know, it's been a 27 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:38.799 long season. 28 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:40.680 We're here to go. We're going to be in Vancouver 29 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:41.840 next weekend. How are you, Evan? 30 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.680 Yeah, man, I'm doing well. Really excited for Great Cup, 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.040 you know, really excited for the games this weekend. There's 32 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.040 only you know, three games left, but it still feels 33 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:51.560 like we have so much, you know, to get through 34 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.040 an experience. But Vancouver should be great. I'm looking forward 35 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.079 to that. I was just out there like three weeks ago, 36 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.959 so won't I won't feel too different for me, But yeah, man, 37 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:01.159 looking forward to the show. 38 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.439 Yeah, and so we'll the professor Andrew Murray is going 39 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.519 to be here as well. He's getting parts coming home 40 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:09.360 from work so he's working through his schooling, you know. 41 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:10.159 And his professor. 42 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.639 And what's this, Mike Mitchell textan on here, Mike Mitchell 43 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:13.919 texting things in the group chat. 44 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:16.960 Here's the deal. Like it. Subscribe. 45 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:18.919 Like I said, we will be at the lions Den 46 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.599 Live next Saturday, So this will be the last show 47 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.199 you hear from us until next Saturday. We'll be there 48 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.639 the sixteenth. Our credentials came in from the league. Appreciate that. 49 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.960 And we'll get all our Great Cup festival and all 50 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:32.039 of that figured out as well. 51 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:34.879 But we'll be at the game. Dorothy. I always joke. 52 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.240 We went over to her parents' house last week. Again 53 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:39.120 I said, you know, Dorothy is a credential member of 54 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.919 the CFL media here, so that you know, you got 55 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:41.680 to have that respect. 56 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.240 But we will be there. Evan will be there. 57 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.599 Andy, you'll be there live in person, Jason will be there, 58 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:49.639 and then we will have a bunch of guests, you know, 59 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.080 far Haun and Naylor, they'll do their run in and 60 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.319 I'm sure the Winnipeg Crow be there. 61 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:55.199 Saskatchewan. 62 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.439 I know Derek Taylor was c seed on some stuff 63 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:59.599 that I was on as well as I want to 64 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:03.280 get either in person or otherwise, like Rod Peterson been 65 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.039 talking with him. Maybe a Saskatchewan makes it in. I 66 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:07.840 still have a gift for Rod Peterson here, so that 67 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.000 would be nice to see him in person. But should 68 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.680 be a star state of affairs. So like I said, 69 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.319 like a subscribe, but make sure you're a part of 70 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.039 all that should be excited to get us up to 71 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.520 when we have four thousand subscribers now trying to get 72 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:21.280 to give you a couple free jerseys here at courtesy 73 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.319 of world retros. We will recap a little bit the 74 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.800 semi finals here today, the division semifinals, will look ahead 75 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.560 some news and notes. I want to talk through jc's article, like, hey, 76 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.199 did you know the BC Lions are going to be 77 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.680 over the salary cap. We will talk through all of that, Evan, 78 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.719 just because we haven't heard from you as much here. 79 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.240 Big games this weekend, that kind of as expected with 80 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.680 BC following the Winnipey or excuse me to Saskatchewan troynt 81 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:48.960 to taken care of business, any major thoughts of the 82 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:50.759 weekend or anything else before we kind of do any 83 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:51.560 deep dive stuff. 84 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.400 Yeah, you know, those would have been the teams I picked. 85 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.800 I mean, you know, I could go over the East 86 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.080 and West summi final and depth. I'll wait, maybe you 87 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.719 know U a little bit later in the show or whatever, 88 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.520 But yeah, I mean it was relatively I think it 89 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.960 went just about as I expected. You know, both both 90 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.400 home teams taking the win, and you know, I mean 91 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:12.759 both teams I think deserved it. 92 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.759 So yeah, yeah, Jason, I'm gonna pull up my tweets 93 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:17.399 here because I was on a little bit of a 94 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.439 rank here, you know, our team, like thank God for 95 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.759 the Commanders, here really suffering through cracking or I think 96 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:26.480 a five game skid right now, BC missing that, Mariners 97 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:28.720 obviously had to live through Otani and all of that 98 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.879 getting that World Series. So really, my life's kind of 99 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.079 shambos right now. Jason, what did you make of everything? 100 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.439 Because like, yeah, as expected, BC didn't have enough kind 101 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:39.879 of frustrating there, So what did you make? 102 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:41.120 Well? 103 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.240 Like Evan, I expected these two teams to win, obviously, 104 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.720 but I thought they were both pretty exciting games. I think, 105 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.839 especially that first half of that audible Toronto game. We'll 106 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.600 get to it, like Evan was saying, but you know, 107 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.040 it was one of the most entertaining halfs of football 108 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.519 that I think I've ever seen in the CFL in 109 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.480 the last several years. So I think, you know, it 110 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:04.319 was a really entertaining weekend. I that the quarterbacks in 111 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.879 general played pretty well, and I think that is always 112 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.680 a good thing for the CFL. And I think, you know, 113 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.360 ultimately the four best teams I think in the CFL 114 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.079 have advanced to this this weekend. 115 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.759 And here I'm hearing Glass break. 116 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:24.199 Back, God Back God, that's the professor for his music, 117 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.879 and and Andy, how the heck are you? Are you 118 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.199 your professor and right now, how's everything going on? 119 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.040 Uh, pre professoring, I'm getting ready to pre professor and 120 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:35.040 then actually professor. 121 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:36.920 But I'm all right, good to see you fellas. 122 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.160 Yeah, just spread the news here be live next weekend. 123 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.360 Great cup Andy, what are you excited for? And that 124 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:43.920 I want to get your thoughts on the Lions that 125 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.279 kind of downfall here, but thoughts here overall as we 126 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.519 approach the division finals here this weekend. 127 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:54.079 I think these are matchups that, just to what Jason 128 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.240 was just saying, I think these are the best teams 129 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.959 in the CFL that are left in the field. I 130 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.199 think for some people it might be annoying. It's a 131 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.040 little bit of the same. As far as Winnipeg, we're 132 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.279 in the not I wouldn't say the frozen tundrick because 133 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:07.959 actually the weather report looks actually pretty favorable this weekend, 134 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:11.759 which we'll get into. But still it's in Winnipeg again. 135 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.439 It's kind of like becoming that New York New England 136 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.120 Patriots feel again, where it's like, oh, we're back here 137 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.000 for the AFC title game, while we're back here for 138 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.360 the West Final again, but deservedly so, and again Saskatchewan 139 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.040 more than deserving to be there in Montreal. I think 140 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:28.680 this is extremely exciting for them. Obviously they've already want 141 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.879 to break up. Now you have that absolutely raucous crowd 142 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:34.920 in personal malson stadium for a home playoff game. I 143 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:36.680 have to double check when the last time they hosted 144 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:39.639 an Eastern Final. Maybe Jason knows that off top of 145 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.959 his head, but I can't quite remember the last time 146 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.360 they did. But still regardless, I'm really excited to just 147 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:49.680 hear how boisterous and absolutely agonizingly loud it's going to 148 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.040 be on my TV screen on this weekend. 149 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.399 Yeah, you know, like you said, is the four best teams. 150 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.800 You know, I've been having a lot of conversations lately 151 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:00.680 with kind of Dorothy Battle, this kind of you know, 152 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:01.240 ramping up. 153 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:02.560 Okay, what what's happening here? 154 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.800 We're going up to Vancouver and all that, and yet 155 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.279 like you look here in the the playoff list, you 156 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.399 know where it's it's six to nine make the playoffs 157 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:13.399 in the CFL. Like I don't view that as like, Okay, 158 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:14.399 we are a playoff team. 159 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:15.279 That's the success. 160 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:15.519 Right. 161 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.920 Obviously we talked with Calgary last year coming in and 162 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.480 you eking in and had missed the playoffs and how 163 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:22.920 many years and they get bounced? 164 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.839 Jason Lions was this. 165 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.519 I do not view this as success of any hand 166 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.759 of them just making the playoffs and getting bounced. 167 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.519 You view the BC Lions season as a success. 168 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:34.959 Absolutely not. 169 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.879 I think anytime you're in a Great Cup hosting year, 170 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.959 the expectation, fair or not in the CFL, is to 171 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.560 make the Great Cup or at least yeah, like I said, 172 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:45.600 make the Great Cup. 173 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:46.439 Let alone win it. 174 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.240 So I think, you know, we went through this last 175 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.560 year in Hamilton, a very disappointing year. We made the 176 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.040 playoffs similar to BC, but we lost in the opening 177 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.560 round the division semi finals. So it's very disappointing for 178 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:01.279 the BC Lions. I think they really were shown to 179 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.439 be frauds. Really just they talked a lot about how 180 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.199 this team was different in style from the previous couple 181 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.399 of years and how they were more of a physical team. 182 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.199 We went out, we got Williams stand back, we got 183 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.360 you know, some guys that are better at defending the run, 184 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:19.040 but ultimately those are the things that cost them in 185 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.040 this game. And ultimately they couldn't match the physicality of 186 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.920 the Rough Riders. And yeah, it was a disappointing season 187 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:25.560 for the Lions. 188 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:27.959 Yeah, I had a couple and I wanted to talk 189 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.920 through a little bit of Rick Campbell's kind of post 190 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:30.680 stuff on here. 191 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:32.080 Evan, do you have anything else to add to this, 192 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:32.960 and then we'll circle back. 193 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:34.320 I got a couple of tweets and one that pull 194 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.360 they just kind of spurs my memory. Anything from you, Evan, 195 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.000 just abod the Lions in general, and then we can 196 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:40.399 kind of deep doute the games here. 197 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:41.360 Yeah. 198 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.960 I mean, you know, look, like Jason said, it's obviously 199 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.879 a disappointing season, you know, and with what a Mark 200 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:48.960 Doman has done, you know, bringing fifty cent in there 201 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.759 for the opener, you know, hosting the Great Cup this year. 202 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:53.759 You know, a whole list of things, you know that 203 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:55.440 they did to kind of make this, you know, the 204 00:08:55.480 --> 00:09:00.679 magical season, you know, and they regressed right the first 205 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.919 the first two years where BC you know, was in 206 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.600 that West Final against Winnipeg, it was well, you know, 207 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.919 disappointing end of the season, but there's a lot of 208 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:12.399 positive takeaways and this year, you know, it felt like 209 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.600 there was just there was a lot going on there, right, 210 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.879 I mean, you bring in Nathan Rourke midseason, that's a 211 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.080 whole different thing. Not really going to get into that 212 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.879 because I think that's gonna take too much time, you know, 213 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.080 But there was a lot going on, and ultimately it 214 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.440 didn't work out. So I think there's a lot of 215 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.960 you know, maybe difficult decisions that will have to be 216 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.399 made there in the off season. We'll see what happens. 217 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.840 You know, I'm not saying that anybody's going anywhere, but 218 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.240 I definitely think, you know, Amar Doman has some things 219 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.080 to consider, you know. But yeah, I mean, ultimately it's 220 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.120 it's a disappointing season for them. And I remember, you know, 221 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.320 I kind of bought into the hype, you know, before 222 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.159 the season started that you know, this was gonna be 223 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:51.120 the year where it all you know, came together and 224 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.200 your host and the Gray Cup and they were finally 225 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.759 going to get past Winnipeg and all the things that 226 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.159 you know had kind of been said for two years 227 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.679 or whatever up to that point. It didn't happen. So, 228 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.600 you know, it's unfortunate, but you know, I'm hopeful that 229 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:05.519 they'll be able to rebound. And again, you know, they've 230 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.720 committed to Nathan wark Now as their quarterback, so that's 231 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.639 your starting point. For whatever happens moving forward. 232 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.919 Andy, I kind of look at two years ago when 233 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:15.679 we went up to Regina and there was kind of 234 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:18.080 a lot of lament of the rough Rider fans and 235 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:19.799 they weren't in it and they didn't show up and 236 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.960 how desploytment. But this feels wildly different because I don't 237 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.879 think Saskatchewan was necessarily a great team at that point. 238 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:27.519 I think they were fine, kind of trying to figure 239 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.799 their way where BC it feels like, you know, they 240 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.600 really went It's like the New York Jets. Here, we 241 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.919 went all in on everything. We got everybody, and we're 242 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:36.039 trading for this and we're signing this and we're doing that. 243 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.799 So it feels am I right and feeling like this 244 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.519 is even more kind of embarrassing that that. I do 245 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:42.399 think that's the right word. 246 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.919 I mean, it was style and hype over substance, and 247 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.320 the substance was a nine to nine season. In fact, 248 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:53.200 to Jason's point, I think he made on your podcast 249 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:55.679 about a month or two ago about the curse of 250 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.320 Rick Campbell. I mean, he's what it goes nine to 251 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.039 nine usually does. He's eighty two ninety two and two 252 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.039 in his career. Yes, He's bought himself a lot of 253 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.399 currency as far as the head coach, as far as 254 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:09.480 his finishes. He's won a great Cup, he's been to another, 255 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.879 he did a lot in Autowahich. He seems like an 256 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.240 outstanding success in Audoware considering what it's been like there recently. 257 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.639 But the fact of the matter is, I mean this 258 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.960 is about a step below a colossal failure. I mean, 259 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.320 they absolutely had all of these pieces that they brought in. 260 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:27.919 You bring in Christian Covington, you bring in Matthew Betts, 261 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.720 you bring in Nathan Rourke, the Godsend, and what you 262 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.159 have the show for it other than you don't even 263 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:36.360 get to host a playoff game. I mean, that's really 264 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.759 the biggest thing to me is the fact that they 265 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:39.799 didn't even get to host a game in the playoffs, 266 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:40.440 which they've done in. 267 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:41.480 The last two years. 268 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.600 I mean, if you travel for the Western Final, fine, 269 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:46.559 but not even being able to host in the semi final, 270 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.159 I think to me was really kind of the marker 271 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.200 of just how far this had fallen off. And for me, 272 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:56.000 I mean I think there was just so many mismanaged steps. 273 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.639 The roster construction, for one. The thing that really gets 274 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.200 me about the team is the lack of physicality, especially 275 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:03.480 on the offensive defensive lines. 276 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:04.679 I mean, their offensive line just. 277 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.159 Got beat every single week, no matter if Va was 278 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:10.440 in there or whether Rourke was in there. I mean, 279 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.360 they were just getting pounded. When the pass rush came 280 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.679 in kind of pinned their ears back. Their defensive line 281 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:18.519 just could not stop the run, which I know you've 282 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.600 been on and on about read. I mean, Ajo let 283 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.240 look like he was revived, and even if they'd moved on, 284 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.720 they would have had the same problem against Brady Olvera again. 285 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.399 So for me, it just it was a roster construction standpoint, 286 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.720 But it was also just a mismanagement of you could 287 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.720 stay possibly behind the scenes personalities. We I don't know 288 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:38.399 if we're gonna get more details. 289 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:38.720 Of what happened. 290 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.559 It'll be really interesting to see what Va says when 291 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.080 he leaves BC. 292 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.240 I'm very curious to talk to. 293 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:46.840 See what he says once he leaves, and if people 294 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.240 get the chance to ask him. But yeah, I mean 295 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.279 it just as I said in the shat a few 296 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:53.840 days ago, I mean, it just felt like such a 297 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:57.000 wet fart of a season, and you promised the sun 298 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:58.919 and the stars and this is what happens. 299 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:02.159 Yeah, they had so they had the post era I guess, 300 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.440 like the season rap whatever. What was this on November fourth, 301 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:07.600 a couple of days ago. And I mean I really 302 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.559 thought that this kind of exemplified kind of everything we've 303 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:12.879 talked about with BC this year. And they had the quotes, 304 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:14.799 you know, if we had Nathan and Ban here and 305 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.320 the Neil and Rick and Rick's quote was, you know, 306 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:19.399 talking about being able to host it. You know, obviously 307 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.120 we're not here and able to not able to host 308 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:22.720 a break up you guys, that's too bad. 309 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:23.919 But we'll have to get over it. 310 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.399 Like if just if nothing else of that, Like that's 311 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:30.519 too bad. We got to get over it. Like how 312 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.240 many years here is it? You know, we're set up 313 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.480 for whatever, and like, well, that's too bad. We have 314 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:36.039 to get over it. 315 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:36.799 Like that's all you. 316 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.759 Have to say to your fans, like Andy said, to 317 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.360 not even host the Semis, to not even get one 318 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.559 playoff game in this Now you're trying to you know, 319 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.919 I'm getting the emails from BC and obviously we're going 320 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:47.799 to be part of the lions down there doing the show, 321 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:49.600 Like hey, there's still going to be a lot of 322 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.120 fun stuff. Here, Hey, still show up, still show up, 323 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.000 Like it's hard, you know, where you're still trying to 324 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.399 revitalize and build that fan base. I know we've seen 325 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.399 a big resurgence with the mar but that's not something 326 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:01.480 that you can take for granted. 327 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:04.440 I laughed when whoever Andy we was ever like, yeah, 328 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:04.879 we brought. 329 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:06.480 In fifty sound, I'm like, man, that seems like a 330 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.440 fever dream ago, Like, oh yeah, I remember. 331 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.000 That at the beginning of the season when we had 332 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:10.879 fifty cent. 333 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.440 But yeah, even from a game standpoint, you know, I'm 334 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.919 sitting there and I'm watching it, and Jason knows and 335 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.720 anyone that's been on the show this summer, like I've 336 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:22.279 done my best to kind of recap everything for me, 337 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:23.960 you know, the day of so Jason and I can 338 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:25.960 kind of do these shows because because I've been traveling 339 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.159 a lot with work, and I'm turning on the game 340 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.320 and I watched the start to finish both games. 341 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:32.519 I was I told Dorothy, I said, like, I got it. 342 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:34.840 We gotta work now, we gotta be serious. I gotta 343 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:35.399 get in on this. 344 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.720 And I'm like, oh yeah, aj let like huh, And 345 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.320 then you know, really hasn't been a major focal point 346 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.480 right the last five six weeks. It feels like a 347 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.080 lot of the season where he was kind of like, 348 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:48.720 you know, thor Hammer coming in and then yeah, he 349 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.080 was the biggest star of the day. They couldn't do anything. 350 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:52.960 It looked like he was the greatest player on the field. 351 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.279 And Andy's point, even if you get through a j 352 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:57.919 you got Brady next week, So it's not even like, 353 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.320 oh pooh, you know, we kind. 354 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:00.559 Of figure that out here. 355 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.399 You look at even the Commanders right now trading for 356 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.399 Marshawn Lattimore, like, hey, god forbid, Like we understand what 357 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:09.480 our weaknesses are and we try to like, you know, hey, 358 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.759 let's get some players and fix that. The fact that 359 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:13.360 Neil and Rick and all of them have had the 360 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.480 same problems with the team for the last three or 361 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:17.679 four years and seemingly have had nothing to do to 362 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.159 kind of fix that is just mind boggling to me. 363 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.039 Jason thoughts on the game, we can let's talk BC 364 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:24.919 and then we can kind of reverse Int're already on them. 365 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.879 The thoughts on the game. My tweet was that you 366 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:30.840 can't spell embarrassment without VC allions. That was my tweet 367 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:32.440 during the game. If you want to know it if 368 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:33.879 you want to know where I'm at, Jason, what did 369 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.240 you think? 370 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.000 Well, I mean, the game was tied at halftime, so 371 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:41.159 it definitely was not, you know, a blowout by any means. 372 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.919 But I think that you know, in the second half, 373 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.679 like I said, it really was the physicality of the 374 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.799 game that the rough Riders, you know, committed to running 375 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.559 the ball throughout the game, whereas the Lions did not. 376 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:54.159 They could not establish the run. 377 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:57.639 I think, standback seven carries for twenty seven yards, that's 378 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:00.600 just not going to cut it and providing balance for offense, 379 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.039 and then there's too much pressure on that really weak 380 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.120 BC offensive line in pass protection and ultimately you'll see 381 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.120 that affect their ability to win that game. So, you know, 382 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:13.639 it was very disappointing to see from the Lions. I mean, 383 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.159 I don't think Nathan Rourke would have done much better 384 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:18.600 if he was in there. I think it was just 385 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.360 the style of the team and where they've decided to prioritize, 386 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.120 you know, spending money on this roster. That has been 387 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.159 the continuous problem. 388 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.440 For this team over the years. 389 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.159 But you know, in terms of Saskatchewan, I think that 390 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.919 you know, Trevor Harris is still playing incredibly well. I 391 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.360 think that you know, the running game coming alive a 392 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.600 j O Lett, even though it was against your BC Lions, Reid, 393 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.200 I think, you know, getting him going down the stretch, 394 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:45.720 maybe he has his best three games of the season 395 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:47.440 on a way to a great Cup. Who knows, but 396 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:50.639 I think that is huge to have balance for that offense. 397 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:54.440 And they also have Rykwell Armstead, who was a big 398 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:58.000 part of the Ottawa Redblacks rushing game earlier this season 399 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.879 before his release due to some per small fouls that 400 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.879 he was taking there. So they decided to dress two 401 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.519