Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to another episode
of The Gimmick Eye and the Eyes Chica trasnell. I'm
joined from the land of Lucha Libre, the very Tan David.
How's the phone today?
Speaker 2: It's going good. Yes, I'm in the land of Leacha Libre.
I'm currently in Mexico. So I even bought another Leechador
mask while I was here, So I mean living it up, Yeah, nicely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David's only gonna be here for the first ten
fifteen minutes. We're gonna because we're doing it's our draft
shake up because we always do it the four money
in the bank. But so we're gonna do that, and
then David's gonna give us quick thoughts on the shows,
and then he's gonna bounce so we can let him
go join his vacation. But he is luckily that Grace
is the present, so he can be here for the
shake up because you gotta gotta make some moves here.
And then we're joined by uh.
Speaker 3: Is it the I mean I'm wondering, everyone's wondering. Is
it the Seth Riders or is it the Seth line?
Speaker 1: All we're here with that suff Yeah, it's it's funny
how we got the hope is that all in the
Deaf Riders are ending. It's kind of like the Bloodline
ended and then death Riders took over, and then hopefully
when the death Riders take overs, just like when whatever
this is gonna be. But yeah, we'll talk a little
bit about that because we got mine in the bank
and everything. But yeah, today we're gonna be talking. So yeah,
it's our draft shake up. We're gonna do the points
and we're gonna talk about who we're dropping, who we're
keeping of, anyone like that, and then we're gonna do
miny bank predictions and we're gonna review Saturday's my event
battle Ground and double or Nothing and some random stuff.
We'll talk about our truth, we'll talk about Mariame, We'll
talk about Willows and signings or releases or whatnot and
whatever tangents may happen. But that's kind of overall for
the show, and then next week we will be back.
I don't I don't think we've figured out a day yet.
I think we're going. I think I think we're planning
the Sunday. I don't know why I haven't listened Sunday. Yeah,
so Dy's got the mask on. Scare me there for
a second. Seah. I think we'll be doing is Yeah,
the Sunday after Money in the Bank, that's when we're
gonna do that. And I think that's the only thing
that'll probably be a shorter show because we're just gonna
be reviewing that. I know they'll be some news and whatnot,
but that's just gonna be a money Bank that and
then yeah, and our next kind of a couple of
weeks are looking like I think it's the last week
of June. All this is kind of tentative. We can
always change it around. It's probably gonna be like an
all like a predictions for all in Evolution, let's see
Great American Bash all that stuff. Yeah, and then we're
gonna fig well, I think what we're doing is July thirteenth,
we're gonna do a big like WrestleMania show. We're gonna
do a show where that's gonna be no tangents very
quick because that weekend, which we'll talk about, we got
Great American Bash, yeah, evolution and all in, so it's
gonna be a packed one. So we will we'll figure
that all out and then two weeks after Summer Slams,
so it's kind of like the rough schedule Summer Slam,
we'll do the same Wrestlemana. We'll do a night one
night too, So we got lots of stuff going on here.
But s Pubs, how's the draft looking like? Right now?
We're at our first quarter stopping point. If people don't know,
we do this for money in the Bank, Survivors Series
and Rumble, Right, that's either one, I think.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Rumble Rustlemania money in the Bank and Survivor Series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's only just like in GMO when you get
a shake up card, that's what we're doing here where
we can draw people.
Speaker 3: Like the longest, Like it's like five months of no
no changing up once you once you pick here, okay.
Speaker 1: And also I will read off the rosters right now,
so if people don't know this is our draft, it's
based on points of winning title losses, matches, stipulations. You
can also lose points by failing cash ands, rumbles, losses,
et cetera. S Pub's currently has the man Who's ruining
pro wrestling, John Cena, Guther, Penta, Eosky, Naomi Bailey, Jimmy Usso,
Phoenix Rocks, and Prez Russ and then his jobber pick,
you know, could be mister money in the bank next week.
His solo jobber pick is you get points for losing
and you get native.
Speaker 3: Points for the he loses on p l e that
that's good for me, that's good.
Speaker 1: What if he wins? What if he wins? Travis has
pick of my own is re Ripley, Cephron's Brown Breaker,
Sharp Flair, ja Uso, Randy Orton, lived more In, Jacob Botu,
Aleister Black lyra Vakiria, and then my jobber's theory, and
then David's picks r Cody Rhoades, Bianca bell Air, Seampunk,
Chelsea Green, l A Knight, Drew McIntyre, Tiffany Shrad, Jay Cargill,
Finn Balor, Montese Ford, and Carmelo Hayes is his jobber currently.
You know, so you got some points last Friday, But
what are the points looking like? Subs you got those?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, wait, let me see here. I think all right, yeah,
I have them here. Okay, so I'll start with David,
who has sixty seven points total. Then I have I
think that's right. Yeah, it might be. It might be
I'll have to double check it's either it's in the
range of like two in case I'm missing one.
Speaker 1: That's just here's the rough estimate, as long as you've
gone at the end of the year, you know.
Speaker 3: And then Travis has two hundred and twenty nine points,
and then I have two hundred fourteen points. So Tras
is actually winning right.
Speaker 1: Now, well first time and ever I was gonna say, David,
I feel like it's the combination. You got Cody Bianca
and see them Punk who've all been away or just
kind of promos. Your top three picks right now are
talking a lot. And then he got Drue who's injured.
So you've had it's like your first sea's a GMO.
You got a lot of mistering injured people. But in
that sense, so we'll go over if we're dropping anybody, So, David,
are you dropping anybody from your list?
Speaker 2: I am dropping someone from my list?
Speaker 1: Okay, how is.
Speaker 2: That I'm dropping Drew from my list?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that makes sense, but I think most people
have reported that he's gonna be gone for quite a while,
So okay, is he the only drop you have?
Speaker 2: I am at actually going to also drop see them punk.
Speaker 1: Oh man, the punker.
Speaker 2: I love the man, but he's not wrestling enough.
Speaker 1: He got you your WRESTLMDIA points and that that's what you
needed him for. You know, that was it? So okay?
Anybody else, that's it, that's it, okay. So s or
I guess I would be next because yeah, I was
second place last year. I'm gonna, Oh, this is tough.
So I think I'm for sure. I know he has
a match coming up, but I'm gonna I'm gonna drop
Alster Black. I got him just for my you you know,
the debut return, surprise points. I know he's in my bank. Always.
Did he lose?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Y in the bank, all right.
Speaker 1: And they did that weird segment where he's on smacked
and he's like, you won, like with a little my help.
It's like, no, dude, you lost a triple threat match.
I'm sure, Like I get.
Speaker 3: What he's saying, like like l A. Knight didn't even
hit his finisher, Like I get what he's saying.
Speaker 1: But he still won the match. It's it's a three
way match, it's not. It'd be different if if it
was a one on one and Alster interfered on his behalf,
but no, that's what you happen. So yeah, okay, he's
not mine in the bank, and I just I don't
think Alster Black's gonna be like he'll be but nothing major.
I don't see any titles or anything like that. So
I'm gonna drop him. And I think I'm gonna I
think I'm gonna drop Randy Orton. I want him for
the scene. The thing. He's been gone, like, I don't
even know how they rode them all around like a like.
Speaker 3: And he just lost to see it.
Speaker 1: But like they didn't do an injury storyline, right, he
just lost in left. It wasn't even like with Ko
where Bailey's pile drove him. He's like, Okay, he's gone
for a couple of months, but yeah, he's full on
Shawn Michaels oh four oh six schedule where he'll work
three months, be gone, work three months be gone. So
I got the points there.
Speaker 3: Come back for like summerlat yeah.
Speaker 1: Or even around Rumball maybe again where someone will but yeah,
I got my points to them. See, I'm gonna drop
Alster Black. I'm gonna drop uh Randall Keith Orton as well.
So that's those are my two drops and that's everything.
I'm pretty happy with the rest of my roster right now.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna drop Russa for the reason one hundred points.
Speaker 1: Those does owl matches aren't getting you any more points
that you want, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I need it right down my own
drops here, Okay, drop Russa. I'm dropping Jimmy USA. He's
gotten me points, but there's other people I want, like, Like, honestly,
Jimmy USA, like compared to some other picks I've had
in the past, honestly, wasn't even that bad because he's
had matches and stuff. But I just want someone different.
Speaker 1: Uh, and Naomi, I don't want to drop.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I think the other one was considering is Bailey, But
I think I'm actually gonna end up keeping her because
I feel like she's probably coming back soon, I think.
Speaker 1: So I think you'll get a big role evolution. It's
kind of got a goose egg for you for rest
season talking Becky about she screwed you over for you know,
wrestlingia points. But uh, yeah, okay, that's everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all have to.
Speaker 1: Drop, Okay, so we all have to drop. So David
Europe first, Also, you have any one of those drops
or you have some new people. But David Europe first,
who who you take into some of your replacements? Stepney,
you didn't get her gmodes, You're getting her here? Yeah, okay,
so there's Yeah, I had her on my list. Of course.
I think we all had like you know that we
all got those NXT ladies. It's just a question of
I just don't know. H I'm stuck between two. One's
a new pick and one's a legendary pick. I'm gonna
go with just what I think is gonna help me
in the short term. I'm gonna pick up Becky Lynch.
No one has Becky Lynch, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna pick her up because I feel like
we've talked about before. I think there is that trajectory
of her, you know, winning the title losing it. But
my hope is I can drop her before she loses
said title. But even then I think she'll beat Lyra.
You know she's gonna have a big match evolution. There's
either case she get made a man evolution. You know
she's gonna be around. Uh doesn't wrestle on raw as
much as i'd like, but I'm kind of hoping maybe
some of these bigger pay per views will pay off.
And it seems like like they put her on backlash,
they put her money in the bank. It seems like
a Becky Lynch, she's always getting a pay per view slot.
So I'm gonna take the man Becky Lynch to replace
one of my picks. So what about US bubbs?
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Julia, damn it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the other one was and forth? All right,
why are you taking Julia?
Speaker 3: I think I feel like she's gonna win the US
title soon and she's in money in the bank, So
that's just points in general for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think they did
that showdown with Zelena and we'll talk about it. That's
Selena matchup Saturday. My event was not good and I
think it's time to time to move on. So David,
you got one more pick?
Speaker 2: Okay, since I don't have my list in front of me,
I may have missed it. But does anyone have Big
Bronson Reid?
Speaker 1: No, no one does, so you can have and that's
my pick, Big Bronson Reid. Okay, there you go, why
you picking? I know why you're picking, But in case
no one else knows, why are you picking?
Speaker 2: Because because Bronson Reid is going to be the work
He's going to be one of the workhorses of that
that stable. He's going to be the man getting in there,
getting featured in matches. I think you're gonna save a
lot of the sets stuff for the bigger matches, but
those weekly points, it's gonna come down to him, those
trios or tag team matches, He's gonna get thrown in there.
So I need some big Bronzon Reid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And he's also the one who if they do need
the faction to lose, he's going to be the one
taking the loss.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, He's He's the pin eater or whoever will be
the next guy up. Yep, this is tough. So I'm
stuck between two people. I'm sure everyone can guess who
they are, two call ups that might be coming up.
I'm just trying to think of, like I'm gonna pick.
I'm gonna go with Jordan Grace. I'm gonna believe that
she's getting called up. I don't know if s Pebbs
is gonna pick this guy or somebody else, but it
was between her and Saints. With Saints, I just if
I look at the two and if you're asking me, hey,
in a year, who do you think's gonna have the
better career? They both easily could be like top mid
tier or mid card people. But with Grace I'm way
more confident on with Ricky. I like Ricky, don't get
me wrong. I just we have to see what he
has on the main roster and how well he can
hold himself. And I think he can. But you know,
maybe maybe someone calls him a vanilla midget like the
Rock and then he snaps again. You know, that's all
it takes. But and it depends. He could be I've
seen people's fearize. He could be with Punk. He could
also be an Hayman's group. And if he gets a
Hayman's group though, I or he could also be a
pin eater. He could be a guy that's like getna
take a lot of You know, we don't want the
big guy to lose. You don't want Brown the news
started lose. We don't want the main inventor. Ricky. You're
earning your stripes here, so that's when you're drawing Grace.
I think she's gonna push. I think she'll have a
lot of mat I think she'll wrestle a lot. I
think she'll get a lot of wins, even though on
NXT she's not. I just feel like she'll like beat
Ivy Nile, should beat Roquel raw Rorie, like they'll give
her that like the usual suspects of people that are
eating pins. And even then whether it's not the like
the main I could see her doing the mid card,
I could see her in a tag team. So I
just feel more confident on Grace. But watch fucking Ricky
Sansby a mystery money in the bank participant wining cash
and on fucking dune scene and they just trap into
the rocket. But no, I'm gonna go with Jordan Grace
for so my new two picks are all the female rosters.
So s Bob's your final pick. No, I have rusive
back if you want.
Speaker 3: I wish I could. I could drop one more now,
but I don't know you can.
Speaker 1: I'm fining you wanna drop because there's only like you
take Ricky from me. I'm not like I would be
or not anybody else, like like I think I'm happy
with it.
Speaker 3: Okay, then I'm also gonna drop Bailey.
Speaker 1: Oh he went back on it.
Speaker 4: You talk yourself into But because I'm thinking like in
terms of like how much he wrestles, I think, yeah,
I'm dropping Bailey and I'm taking c hm Punk.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Punker. There you go in the bank.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I feel like he gets matches.
So but then I also think he's probably gonna get
like tsunamid by Bronson reed like eight times before the
s got.
Speaker 1: The Saudi Show coming up. That that's before you drop him, right,
so you know, well maybe they'll maybe I'll cut a
proud Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I mean if I'm looking like six months, I'm like,
I feel it's a good pick. And then so then
for my last pick, I'm gonna go with Nathan Frasier.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that a strategic picker? Is that a
heart pick? Right there?
Speaker 3: Is your fraxy that's like a strategic pick because I
need I don't have anyone in that like SmackDown Tag
Team division right now, and.
Speaker 1: They wrestle a lot, they're always they're the SmackDown six
for the tag team.
Speaker 3: So I pretty much had someone in like in like
every sort of division now like every mid card and
main event scene of each show, which is what I'm so. Yeah,
that's those my picks right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there we go. We're all set. We got
our new picks. Myney Bank will see any wins, castions,
et cetera. Okay, So obviously me and I supposed to
gonna bring it down long form. But David, Men's money
in the bank. You got Solo, l A and A, Pantas, Cephrons,
Andrada and TVD. TVD is either cempunk aj Styles or
El Grande Americano. Uh, who do you think is went in?
The Men's money in the bank?
Speaker 2: Men's money in the bank. So I've kind of gone
back and forth on this one a couple of times
because I don't know, but I'm going to have to go.
Uh with Penta, I think I was like, they're going
to give it to Seth, They're going to get it
to Seth, and I'm like, Seth has already had it.
They can do other stuff with Seth's No. Yes, everyone
wants l A Night to have it, but no Solo
hell no, and Dradde hell no. So it's down. So
then it came down to TBD and Pinta. I think
they could have a lot of fun with Penta having
it and you don't have to catch it in on
a world title.
Speaker 1: Oh cool. I don't want that. I don't get Sol
to win and he catches on Jacob for the US title.
Speaker 2: Here's my thought process. Also with them acquiring triple A,
he could catch it in the Mega Championship.
Speaker 1: I've seen people theorize that I hate all this. I
hate all these theories, but it's plausible, especially with these
rumors every Scooper is now like, yeah, hates money in
the bank. It's like, oh great, there we go.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, but it is plausible.
Speaker 1: Okay, women's money. Thank you got lex of Bliss, Rocks
and Pezria, Ripley, Juliet, Naomi and TBD. Have they Now
it's Ivy and Ile, Stephanie and Live right Yeah? Okay,
So I think we all assume it's gonna be live
because Stephanie's on the World's colyde and unless I's getting
the big push, which I don't think is happening. Uh yeah,
so I'll say it's live Morgan, who you thinks take it?
For the women?
Speaker 2: I think the saying it's your only two options, you're
Live or Ria. But I think they're gonna go with Live.
Speaker 1: Really you mean two time money the banker. You said
Steph would win it because that's a two time, but
Live can win it because like that's two time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they love Live with that. Like I there's
there's nothing really you can do with Seth new with
with Rhea you can have that dominating force of the
and her way of just going that I'm coming for you,
and the way that she talks and everything else. It
would work for her. It would just be annoying with Seth.
So I could see them doing it with Rihea just
for the viewership, just for the eyes. Everyone loves Mommy.
Speaker 1: But I think custom briefcase too that you know, only
want that Ria Ripley custom briefcase. You know, I'll sell
a lot of merch there, like this random one. Okay,
you got Cody Roos versus John c and Logan Paul
who you got?
Speaker 3: Wait, so it was your prediction Live or Rhea Live? Okay?
Speaker 2: I said, if you come down to those, those are
the only two options in here that I definitively see.
Rox and Perez No Julia I think she's going to
have some stand up moments, but no, niame Naomi, hell no,
Alexa Bliss, and.
Speaker 1: Why it's not only a hell no. I feel like
she's like the shitty heel that would catch it, right,
she's the sneaky heel right now.
Speaker 2: And that's yes, And she's she's playing a role, but
she's not playing a top of the women's card role
like she's she's upper of the women's card, but she's
not there.
Speaker 1: You got some hot money in the bank, takes here
because I like spoil my fridge. I'm in Naomi pretty
much almost all the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alexa Bliss, I don't know what they're doing with
her and the Wyatts, so that one's up there. But yeah,
so it's got to come down to live. I think
live with where she's at, with the judgment day re
established to shake her as the leader and things like that,
I think that just makes more sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, the tag match Rhodes and usso, Sena and Paul,
I think we know where that's going.
Speaker 2: Uh, this one I'm I'm iffy about, but I'm gonna
go Cody and Jay.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and then we don't have a fifth match.
As right now, and then the fourth match lyra versus Becky.
Speaker 2: Who you got Becky?
Speaker 1: If Lynch I missed the stipulation. If loses, she'll be
forced to raise Lynch's hand acknowledged, like Lynch is a
better woman.
Speaker 3: Such a weird, like I think that's I think that's
like a Chris Jericho stipulation. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I swear some of the choice of the last few months.
If Vince was back, there would not be that's such
a weird, Like she's losing the title, Why does she
need to raise her hand? But whatever?
Speaker 3: Okay, Bailey interferes and then Becky can't challenge.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's yeah, yeah, and raised one super weird like
if I win, you must race.
Speaker 3: Because it's because when Becky lost to Lara, and then I.
Speaker 1: Know the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, sub's point about that? That does sound
like a Chris Jericho think type of stimulation. He's done
stupid things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David, what were so quick elevator reviews on Double
or Nothing? What are your thoughts on Double or Nothing?
Speaker 2: Double or Nothing had some insane matches, some just straight
up insane matches like this was probably by far one
of my more favorite anarchy and the arena matches just
some of the stuff they did with that, I absolutely
loved it. I really was happy that I think Willow
got some shine in that match. I mean, she's great
as the bubbly person, but then you also got to
see a different side of her. Only match that really
didn't do anything for me was probably the trios match.
Yeah it was, Yeah, it was just there, but Hangman
and Osprey freaking delivered, Rick sche and Mark Brisco was
pretty dope. FTR Daniel g versus Daniel Garcia and nas
v A Guinnis went a little bit long, Mercedes Money
and Jamie Hayter was good, and the tag team match,
while predictable ending, was still good. And Okada is Okada.
Same thing with Timeless Tony Storm and Mina Sharikala, Like
I love everything that Timeless Tony Storm does, and Mina
has that duality of just being she can brawl and
then she's got the funny comedic side. So like, I
loved all of that. Okay event, Serious Nights Main event
cheth Rolinds and Brown Breaker to Venansy and Punkin Sammy's saying,
like I figured that that's where they were going to
go with this. They just started the stable, so of
course they had to win. And then having that moment
of it being because of the interference I think worked
for that match with making everyone look stronger. Slenda Vega
versus Chelsea Green, I actually loved both of these women.
Speaker 1: For I was I actually love this man. I was like,
oh my god in Mexico is a whole different verson.
Speaker 2: I love both of these women's. I really root versus
Alena Vega, I do, but this match was not. It
an exposed that she probably needs to drop the championship.
She like, she can do some things. She's got a
great character, like, she's so great to root for. I
loved everything they did with her in the championship and
her family afterwards, taking it to her dad's memorial, everything else,
But this match just wasn't it. Damon Priest and Drew
McIntyre in the still cage was just an absolute banger.
But these guys have great chemistry together, so that was good.
Jay usso Logan Paul. I was so glad Logan Paul
did not win. I'm like, please do not let this
be the you don't need this, No one needs this.
There's no multiverse for this is acceptable, So I'm glad
it didn't go down like that. And I am loving
the fact that Jay Usso is incorporating people from the
crowd with this interest because watching the kids doing everything else,
that's just fun. More reason why I loved Jay Lusso.
People can say he's a character more than he is
a wrestler, but I'll take it because sometimes that's what
you need. And then Johnson firsts goo ahead, Oh.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's something on the Predictions show.
You guys were debating what was gonna go last, and
s Web said, well, it'll be Jay and you know,
Paul because they're been building up, and you said it
was Scena because they'd set up the last and like
the newest opponent. It was pretty much the like this,
Like you guys were both right, they just did it differently.
We're like wrestled earlier. But then he did the whole
Jay like, oh, I'll see you know, maybe they'll be
keeping an eye and it's like literally what you guys
both pitched half at the same time. So I was like, okay,
that's how we got there. It's kind of funny because
you guys both that sound reasoning. I'm like, oh yeah,
like I don't know what would mean because those are good,
especially for Cody's coming back. He's not coming back and
like forty five minute marks. So it was funny when
I was watching after a listen like, oh, they're just
both right, but they just did you know, he screwed
and cheated them by being like, oh no, we're gonna
have seene A comeback later. But yeah, Scena and Truth
the uh sadly no longer with the company. I was
gonna stay with us. It's not We're not that level.
Don't worry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, breaking news if you hadn't heard before. Our Truth
is no longer with the company as of a couple
of hours ago. But yeah, John Cena versus Our Truth,
predictable last Our Truth. First of all, the Ron Sena
shirt they're coming out with the entrance and music, everything
was just because at first Johnsena did his intro, then
you know he stops and says, hey, redo my intro,
and then when the music started again, I thought that
was just production replaying his music for a little bit.
But then to have Our Truth come out with the
Ron Sena shirt on doing the full on throw the
talel up everything else, having him do the five Moves
of Doom, having him hit in AA. I was like,
this is great. If he's going to lose, if Johnsen
is gonna turn it on and just take him out,
then at least let him get these moments. And I'm
glad that we got that predictable match ending, but it
was still fun.
Speaker 1: And I enjoy it, okay. And then Battleground and then
you're out of here, all right.
Speaker 2: Battleground just Raggs, Tank and Tank doing their thing versus
the Culling was like cool, I'm not that invested in
the culling like at all.
Speaker 1: Keep hearing from every everybody, those NXC diarders, like the
Callings is like the most they're there type of group,
you know.
Speaker 2: Stax versus Tony Dangelo figured Stacks is gonna win. It
was Luca Christophino kind of having that moment in there,
like where does the family go from here? I thought
this was going to be the end of the family,
but hey, we're continuing this storyline. Stephanie Vecer versus Jordan Grace.
In the moment, I thought, okay, cool, keep Stephanie as champion.
You're gonna keep building her up. In retrospect, I'm like,
why did you have her win? Just for what happened
afterwards to happen on just regular n x T TV,
but the Mets itself, it was a good match Oba
Fammi versus Miles Born, predictable but still good. Trick Williams
versus Joe Hendry kind of damn it Joe, Yes, sacky,
But the final shot of the TNA president looking so
dejected as Trick Williams is doing air guitar as people
are chanting what that trick that was? That was hilarious
and that was almost my background for this episode, was
the picture of the dejected teenage president. But so that
that's my thought on that. Overall, it was a good show.
Did not expect Joe to lose, but hey, it sets
up for Santana to win the TENA Championship, and I
like Santana. I like his comeback story and everything he's
been through, so kudos to him.
Speaker 1: There we go. Well, David, we will see you next
weekend for money in the bank. After that show. Thanks
for joining us at the beginning in the draft, and
go enjoy the rest of your vacation, sir.
Speaker 2: All right, I will talk to you guys later.
Speaker 1: I see man, Okay, so let's get back to my
own bank.
Speaker 3: Was talking sometimes like when he's moving his hands sometimes
like he sounds like exactly like Maven.
Speaker 1: He does a little bit. Yeah, he's at the Man
five going on. So I was not.
Speaker 2: I would not a good thing.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
Speaker 1: He's a good speaker. Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 2: Love sneaking to a W. I'm gonna leave here now
on the beach and plot how I can sneak into
a W exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Maven clip going around this week. The guy
walked to me and put a gun to the head
and said I did it just because I could, And
that's what I knew I needed security. That was crazy.
That was wild, Like I was not prepared for that.
But uh yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about those shows too.
We might talk about them kind of enter a wine
with some stuff here, but I'll go back to mine
in the bank for yeah. So l a pentacephrons and
on Dry Day versus tv D David with a I
didn't want to keep them because they know he's on
vacation of Panta wild pick. Like, don't get wrong, I
would love that I would love. I'm always is down
for some wild money to bank winners, even rumble sometimes
obviously you can see the reaction right like when Jay won.
I mean, Jay's a wild rumble winner, but some people
were for that. Like I think most of us words
like this is terrible. It should be the most obvious,
like I think there's pros and cons, but if it
was PETA, that'd be great. I won't clarify. We've you know,
we've been doing this for a year, so I'm sure
I've said this before. I do not like money in
the bank, making cash on anything but the world title.
I don't even want the NXT title, it's world or WWE.
I think it's just like I get it because David's right,
there's been tons of people theorized. But even if it's
Grande like and he's in the world's collide so he
won't be there, but still just the idea of the
triple A or yeah, like my joke of Solo cashing
on Jacob like off, like, I'm not a fan of
that to me, And again, I never knew this. It
seems like it's called common knowledge. Lots of speak on
the timeline that triple h is not a big fan
of the Money Bank, which is like, I don't know,
like why it's like a.
Speaker 3: Pod, Like he's never been in any of the last match,
he's never been cashed in on.
Speaker 1: He's never been a part of it at all, which
is funny in the opposite. Obviously it's not that case now,
but if you look at like the first five or
six cash ins, Edge was either cashing in or he
was a part of it one where like he got
cashed in.
Speaker 3: I think Charlotte has been cashed in like six times.
There's a weird yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. I think that's why. To me,
I don't think he they should ever kill it if
he's not fan, because I think people like the concept
and I think it's like a big show. Like I
could say when people talked about the Big.
Speaker 3: The reason why, whether you're never gonna or at least
not for a long time take it away, is because
the show itself is now like a big show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like to me, when people back in the day
when it was the Big Four, like Maynia and Rumbel,
Survivor Series, Summer Slams so viv series went down and
it was replaced by mine in the bank is a
big fan of Survivor series and the war games and
all that stuff. But to me, that's why it's like
a big five. But that's why for me with the
man's I think it's because we like you know, not David,
I guess, but you me talked. I thought it was
always gonna be someone from this group. I thought it
was gonna be Braun, And I thought my whole layout was, Okay,
Seth's gonna win the title, Samy's gonna win Rumble, Sammy
beats Seth at Mania, and then Braun cashes it at
Sammy at some point, and you kind of get that
tension of Seth like, oh, like I was supposed to
be Sammy whatnot? I don't know, I could now see
because some people speculate maybe Braun and Seth at Mania.
I don't know, but I think Triple Ah's gonna view
this as like a just like a big number one
contender ship match. And even like I said to you
though in the discord, if Seth wins, there's no there's
been no male that's won the ladder match twice other
than Punk, like Edge won the briefcase put out the
ladder match, So I think that's like a good thing
for that feud for Seth ron to be like, oh,
I've also done that, like you've done that. I've done
that on better than you. And yeah, I agree with everybody.
Speaker 3: That I think you think Punk is in this match.
Speaker 1: I do. I do because I just Grande's not and
I just think it's you want Punk on the pay
per view maybe unless Punk really like, hey, brother, I
don't want to work a ladder match like.
Speaker 3: He does, like Randi or Iner Alexa Blitz really like
no bumps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, it's I think he's in there,
plus you get more seph Punk interaction if he's not, Like,
AJ's a good pick. If he's not in the match.
That's my only worry for Seth actually not winning because
I could see Punk screwing him out of it. So
I really don't know, but I'm I'm picking Seth. Uh
Solo No Andrade no like good he's in there. If
AJ was in there, no l A. Knight, there's there's
like always a chance, but it's just I think.
Speaker 3: It's one of those where it's like they could just
give it to him and figure it out later.
Speaker 1: Yes, you got a whole year. It's just one of
those that we've talked about. It seems like the world
title is going to be eventually Jay and Seth for
a while, and then the Doughty title is going to
be Sena Cody for a while, and then whoever Cody
versus Mean. It's just like, I don't see a time
for l A.
Speaker 3: Knight to cash like like Cody and Punk at Maynia
and then it's gonna cash in on the triple Threat.
Speaker 1: He's gonna run in the Mega Star. But yeah, I
just I don't see an opportunity. But it could also
be like we don't know the situation. When Drew won
last year, it was like that where it's like, oh,
this doesn't fit, but then he cashed in, Punk interfered
and lost. If one of them are planned to lose,
then of course anybody could win, right Like if l A. Knight,
if that sets up his next feud he goes to
cash in and for some reason, I don't know, fucking
Jacob to attack like I don't like, I don't want yeah,
like to me. Lots of people that about the Drew stuff.
I was fine with the Drew cash in last year.
They made it work for a story beat, but yeah,
I'm going steph rawlins they cash in, and I think
he's gonna do it exactly like Mania, where it's gonna
be Jay and Gunt. They're in a triple threat, and
that way you can kind of Again, I always say
that when people losing a triple threat, it's not as
bad as a one on one, so you can kind
of predict Gunther, predict Jail.
Speaker 3: Like Seth and his crew are gonna come out at
the end of Money in the Bank, like after the
tag match, and they pretty much sale like to like
pump viewers up for Raw, Like like he's gonna come
out at the ramp like with his with his crew
and like be holding the briefcase and then like the
credits roll. So I feel like he won't he won't
like do a cash or like try and do one
at the end of Money in the Bank, but it'll
like tease that like on Monday, is gonna cash shit.
Speaker 1: And like we talked about it in our discord, which
you can join the g Discords Wrestling, we're always throwing
theories and whatnot. If you make it a triple threat,
noody c. So I think that's a perfect time, Like
you can just literally have Seth, Braun and Bronson. I
hate that. I was gonna say breaker and Read, but
you can literally just have them come in there and
just beat up Jay and gooth rafter a match and
then like Seth get easy with Like that's how you
can save Guther because I was like, Guther can't lose
a jig again, can.
Speaker 3: He's taking a spear from Goldberg at the on the outside.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that could happen to Like that's the thing
where there's so much stuff that can happen. They can
just make it a big cluster. So I'm going Rawlins
even though I would, I would actually love David's pick. Man,
they are all in on Penta right now because and
I don't unless it is triple A. So like if
it's that, then I'm not I'm not excited that would
get me. That would kill my hype. But I'm gonna
say Seth Rawlins that you're a rollands as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah I think so, yeah, Yeah, Penta definitely would be
a wild pick. But I'd be done for that if
they did, like if they announced like a like a
Mexico show or something he does, like a announced cash
in there for a title love that I do feel
like like, yeah, I don't think Penta is winning, but
I feel like at some point soon he has to
get like a world title shot, Like I feel like
that could even be like I don't know what's the
show that, Like, I don't know if they do it
as soon as like Night of Champions, So I feel
like some sort of show like that, like he has
to get a world title shot at some point that.
Speaker 1: Or it's it's longer, it's I guess it's too long.
You need some sort of gimmick like the chamber where
you could do a multi man defense, right, like if
there's a fatal four way like what they're doing aw
right now where it's Kenny and they just had a
bunch of number one contenders, like Hey, you're you're fighting
these three guys, which is like k fab why is
incredibly unfair? Especially Kenny Omega di articulate Les be like, Hey,
you're gonna not defend against one Like here's three random guys.
It's like what like and that's where, Yeah, I think
Seth's a good option wait for so maybe that could
happen like a Night Champions where it's like a four way.
I don't know if you'll get a one on one unless,
like you said, it's a Mexico show. I could see
like a four way where it's like Panta. Who else
is like a mid Carter popular and raw? Right now,
you don't think I don't think Sam and I think
they keep away. You gotta Jay get a rematch in there.
You didn't even have good. You gonna Shamus in there
maybe something like that. But yeah, all right, so we're
both going seth Uh. The women's yeah, Lexibliss, Rocks and
press Re Rippley, Julia and Naomi, and then uh we
are assuming Live Morgan.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And for me, this one's actually pretty unpredictable because I
think that there's I disagree with David again. I don't
think Live would get it again if that's the case.
Speaker 3: So the thing with triple H money into banks as
well is like he he doesn't want to deal with
two people having them for a long time. So I
feel like if someone cashes in quickly, the other person
holds it for a long time, like Drew cashed it
immediately and Tiffany held it for a long time yea
eos Damien, like both had it but EO cashed in
at SummerSlam, so not even that that long. Honestly, Damien
held it until Mania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's tough with that era too, because that
was a lot of back and forth when like Triple
H was there, but then Vince came back for a
little bit was doing great, Like it's kind of like,
what would he have done? Completely at that point.
Speaker 3: I think that was after sort of Vince was already.
Speaker 1: Was it after that the last I was saying, Okay,
I couldn't remember because it was a weird because I
know thirty nine he crept back in and he was
back for like three to four.
Speaker 3: Months after No, because he had because Vince had theory
would win in the bank the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what and then and lost not even laws
that that that killed him. But yeah, for me, like
I could make a case for Naomi winning.
Speaker 3: I could make I think whenever I think Bianca beats
Tiffany and Naomi cash is in, whenever that is.
Speaker 1: Oh that would be good. Yeah, I could see that
because to me, if you're doing another person holding on
to it for a while, that is Naomi. And I
do think there's a chance rocks if you get like
the wild undercard. Pick I think there's a chance Rocks
and could win it. They gave her that Rumble record,
they did not have to. She wasn't even the main roster.
They know, WrestleMania match. It's not like, oh, they gave
her the record and she wouldn't have a big WrestleMania match. No,
They're just like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And would she be the youngest money because I know
Theory is the youngest money in the bank winner. I
don't know how old he was when he won it.
He must I think maybe like the same age.
Speaker 1: At least for the female side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I mean in general, Theory was probably
like the same age you're around there.
Speaker 1: I feel like Pickens says, let Penta win the Taketowes
versu us in your future take tells a given Whenever
they put Phoenix the name together, Yeah, that that to me.
I can't wait when you get the Lucha Bros. Then
you get Fraxy and that's gonna be some some great stuff. So, uh,
first and only wrestler to be at three time banks,
she would be Hella man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say Roxane would be younger than she would
be twenty three in three is twenty four when you want.
Speaker 1: It, Okay, So I guess said, I think she's a
sneak pick. She's somebody of like if they're not sure,
she's a perfect person to put on because I don't
think she should lose. But it's only six situations where
she could lose.
Speaker 3: Those people who hold money in the bank for a
while to always lose like every match until they win the.
Speaker 1: And she's already losing a lot right now. Like that's
the thing where she's losing all of the big matches,
which is fine because they're good performances. But and then there,
to me is also real ripley because riat ripley. That
could be a sign of triple if really does want
to get rid of my bank where Seth cash is
in like a week for now, and then Rhea does
the evolution cash in because we talked both again in
this coord where I love the babyface going up to
the whatever the champions saying, hey, this date to and
me get ready, we've only gone that twice. We got
that with Sina, we got the rv D. You did
remind me about big Ee, but then at least that
was the same night I love the hey you got
a month, get ready and Ria to me, that would
actually fit the EO rematch of she's trying to get
a match with EO and to win it and not
to cash and honor cheaply and cheap to say, hey,
you got till July and I'm gonna beat you, and
then EO can prepare And I think there'd be like
a big feel And like I said, I didn't think
about that till we were meeting on it. But the
real Ripley briefcase would sell like that would actually make
a lot of money. So I'm really torn on all these.
My ranking right now is I think I got Naomi one,
Rhea at two in rock Sam, But I think I'm
gonna I've talked myself out of it because that briefcase merch,
I'm gonna flip it.
Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna have the Globe briefcase though.
Speaker 1: No, it'll be that bad caution take one that remember
the fake one. Yeah, but I'm I'm gonna say it's
gonna be really rippedy and the Internet is going to
react the same way they did the rumble within the
oh Seth and Riha the two worst winners because they're
establage stars. But I'm gonna say Ria, I'm gonna say
just purely because they want to sell the briefcase. And
t Ko's like, hey, we're giving a lot of money
off those purple briefcases that say mommy and Mommy in
the bank, like it's all there, like it's all you know, Like,
but Naomi's I want Naomi.
Speaker 3: I'm sticking with my with Naomi time just because I've
been saying it for like so long at this point.
Speaker 1: That I want her to win, don't get wrong, because
I think that's the perfect character. And I think your
pitch of biyonce again the title thing and cashing right
away is like it to me, Naomi, any rock stand works,
David's right, Bliss isn't. I don't know. They don't even
know what to do with Lexa Bliss, Like this whole
thing with her pound of Charlotte, like I've complained about already.
It's like a last of Bliss is getting organic huge
babyface pops and you want the person who has like
semi go away heat to be like like it's weird
and Juliet too too early. You never know, maybe you
know there's that meme about you know, true, we've done
all Triple H like she has a major backing. Everyone's like, well,
no dub, but hey maybe Triple Ah's like yeah, I
fucking love Julia. We're briefcase right now. There is a
case for everybody to win, but Alexa Bliss to me,
even Live Morgan, I would rank about Bliss for winning
just because like for some reason, maybe they do something.
I don't know, But okay, so you're Naomi, I'm Ria.
And then David was who was Who's David again?
Speaker 3: Would live? That was confused because because he said live,
but then he talked for like five minutes about why
why Reo would make sense to win, And that's why
I add.
Speaker 1: That briefcase you know who?
Speaker 3: He finally picked. Yeah, and I feel like there's probably
gonna be another match added to this show because I've
seen like the other like Triple Ah Money in the
Banks shows have been five matches, So I'm wondering, like
what this this fifth matches?
Speaker 1: Like nothing? What Tiffy because she's kind of just hanging
around right now, Let's see who? Why am I forgetting who?
The mid cast? So Jacob fought, no, he'll probably he
could even be involved with Solo doing something.
Speaker 3: I think he said that soon they'll do an andrawa
Jacob Potu match. Nice, but obviously not at this show
because then in the.
Speaker 1: Working double duty, Hey you got my bank, you're also
working Jacob in a three Stages from Hell United States
title match. Why am I forgetting the Icy Dom?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Always like costs like aj styles, and they just
do the icy title match at one.
Speaker 1: Doom's an easy person always to throw on the card, right,
But so I only that Selena.
Speaker 3: Know that one they did Penta and don on backlash,
just like we just need another match on the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I say no, but they could
easily just yeah, get Dom. He gets heat there.
Speaker 3: I feel like like the balor like of it all,
like when is this ballot the valor. Well, it's not
the ballor's face turn anymore. It's more than domb.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I really don't know what it is,
because like people still like, I don't think it's weird,
Like I don't think that is like getting booed, because
when they do the teases, sometimes when balder Like looks
at it like this, they still kind of cheer for baller,
not as much as Don, but it's it's kind of weird.
I think it's just I don't know. I think again,
all you gotta do is throw that face paint on
Finn and they'll get them. I think that's the SummerSlam
match in my opinion. I think Finn and down that's
what we're going towards.
Speaker 3: Uh's big turn happens there.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, or the big turn yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I feel like that could be like a Knight
of Champions thing if you do if you do Domin,
let's say Domin AJ sounds like that's a Saudi match
right there. I feel like you could get the Finn
Finn turn there, you know, he helps win.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah.
Speaker 3: I put that title on Aj. I mean, they've been
kind of trying to make AJ so it's like they're
trying to make him like a mid card guy now,
so I could just put the icy title on it.
Speaker 1: He's fum with Chad right now. Like again, maybe this
is a good portion to talk about it. I do
know AJ's status both I think SRS and Dave said like, hey,
I think the working theories he's staying w Everything he
said to me has made it sound like he's staying
w B. That's when we tell people that are fit.
I want him to go. I want him to go
to the DUB. I wanted to go do Bolt Club
Lore with Kenny, with j White with absolutely trade him
for Jamie Hater, you know. And that's the same thing.
That's where it's like, that's where when it's a good
thing of being a fan of both companies. I want
Hater to go to w B. And May who you know,
Ryan May's we don't know when because people are like, oh,
she's started really soon, and SAP was like, nah, she's
still under contract for a while. It doesn't matter when.
To me, May is like a perfect fit for w
not because like the dream job post or what ut,
but just she can do what she did in AW.
But I said before like that they designed that story
with her and to be an ender and you could
do stuff with her otherwise. But I just worry she
would fall somewhere in the card where someone like now
Willow when she resigned right away. To me, Willow, there's
still tons of stuff for her to do an AW
and I feel like this new style she's got, she's
becoming like a weird hardcore wrestlers like that fits a
lot in AW, Like she did this stuff with Stat.
She did this stuff and the anarchy will talk about
with the fucking ear lobe and the lock. It's like
she has this like kind of like bad ass feel
going on where I think ww the big dude like
the happy stuff right now. And that's where it's yeah,
Aj and Dub and Willow, that'd be perfect. Hater needs
to go. Mirimee says, that's I think it's also at
different stages because maybe in three years from now Willow
should go to ww I I will get there. But
my prediction is I think moneis like when she loses
the big strap, it's gonna be a Willow. I think
they're gonna make Willow the fucking the ace of that company, right,
And that's where for god, who are we talking about here?
Oh Aj? It's just I get best thing. If he
wants to maybe a trainer and do that stuff, then
is the better choice. It is just yeah, it just
it just feels.
Speaker 3: Like it's kind of judge on on LFG this.
Speaker 1: Of course, so he can be a host of future.
It just feels like he's been flowering because they did
like the Brown Breaker stuff, and I didn't go anywhere.
They did the Judgment Day stuff, but that's never been
like a main focus. And now he's fighting with Chad.
He's just all over the place. So I don't know.
It's it's strange. So I'm hoping. I'm hoping he the
devil on his shoulders, like go get that TK money,
you know, like like again the Bowl Club lore, there's
there's some there's and can't like even with the Bucks.
The last thing they did together was Bucks and Omega
beating the ship out of a j New Japan and
sending him to WW like there's there's some history there,
and like, I just don't know what there is for
a to do other than he's the pin guy, and
I don't know why he's gonna work with car same
thing Karen Cross, Right, that's another angle. They were kind
of teasing for a while and now it's Karen Cross
just interacting with Sammy, which it's it's funny.
Speaker 3: He like, yeah, he beat Cross and then yeah he
like showed up at the Mania and then.
Speaker 1: Right, you should on me, And you would think that
would be like that's gonna lead to another one on
one like grudge matcheson, but the angle's like gone, It's
like it's out of there. And that's where it's funny
because this is where I always say, like the film community,
wrestling community, we talked about jay Z, so it's such
a bubble. I did not ever think of Caring Cross
once until I logged in my timeline literally because I
had wrestling on and we were doing after Night. I
saw on the corner like wow. I was just more confused,
like wow, see him punk is in money in the
bank qualified but it was like punk a J. Gable
And then we were doing after nine. I didn't go
on my phone to like other yeah, like late night,
like midnight because I was playing some games with Taylor.
And then when I saw people were like, oh I
wasn't cross or like the memes of people want to
be crossed. It was like I never even for a
second thought carring Cross was getting that spot. It was
just like that's where it just shows the online bubble,
which again he's getting popped, don't get me wrong, but
I was like, carrying Cross, that's what people are concerned
about here. Okay, so maybe AJ will get in and
he'll go to get the briefcase and Cross will scream over.
That's there's another big Summer Slam match. So, uh, okay
Cody j versus seeing them Paul, I'm gonna let you
go first. What do you think about this match? What
do you think? Because obviously, uh we I think that's
a big debate right now about the scena heel turning
the route it's going. And now Cody's back, same thing
we talked about. Uh when is he coming back? He
has talked about the possibilities, So lots of big things
are happening right now. What is the trajectory for John
c the next little bit? How you feel about this setup? U? Yeah?
So the tag match? How you feeling?
Speaker 3: I feel like they're they're trying to put him with
Logan Paul to like like like Logan Paul needs needs
the put over Sena in terms of being a heel,
like they want him to get booed against. And honestly,
if they're fighting like Jay and Cody like same reason
for putting them together. It's like you want just like
the most years and the most booze in a in
a tag match. There.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm worried that they were worried about Cody
because the fact they put him with Jay like well.
Speaker 3: For sure, and it was fine because then they put
Yaka Villa's return like in her hometown with the whole
playing the music and everything.
Speaker 1: And luckily because I did I watched it after after nine,
but the segment Cody did luckily, all cheers, all good,
even seeing count boost. So it just feels like maybe
that was like we'll see how goes We'll see what
happens with the rematch. I feel like a lot of
it's just it's Sena, and also.
Speaker 3: People just want to see seventeen happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And plus I think there is people now
that are like, eh, like now I'm over the Sena stuff,
you know, even if they don't hate it, I think
people are like it was fun at the start, but
now people are like, yeah, just like Cody have it back, unlets,
I've seen him be a good guy. But how do
you think this match goes down?
Speaker 3: I mean I assume probably with like Cody pinning Sena,
the set up another match that's scary. But and then
like I feel like you could even have like because
they already like teased like like Sena and Paul like
not getting along. I feel like that could be a
set like the Saudi match for a Night of Champions,
Like you just have Logan Paul like, oh my god, already.
Speaker 1: If I if there's a Saudi match with John Seeing
and Logan Paul, like, it's the titlement. This is me
going they are going out of their way to fuck me.
That is death con five right there. I think I'm
more finding that after if you lose the title and
it's like the Babyface run, but like it's the real possibility.
That's Oh my god, seen in Paul heel versus heel
title in Saudi. That that's something. And where are you
on the scene of Heel Turn? Are you down for
him to do this? Obviously he's not gonna do the
whole time, but are you down to see this for
a few more months? Are you kind of like myself,
which I'll tell about some others, where I'm kind of
in this camp the cab, I kind of just wanted
to drop it to Cody and turn and just kind
of just kind of go back. I actually want the
Assli era now because I'm I don't think I'm with
people with something that's been all time bad, But I
think it's definitely been disappointing in what we thought when
it first started the first few months. But where are
you on this?
Speaker 3: I don't agree there, Like I think like either ways,
probably like I think even when he won, we were
probably predicting like he was gonna lose it at Summer
Slammer around that time.
Speaker 1: So I guess other people have brought up the Saturday
Knights maybe in Atlanta too.
Speaker 3: Because that's also possible option, especially with it going against
all In, like not exactly head to head or I
don't know, because all In is starting pretty early. I
think they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did on because they wanted. I think it's
at like twelve, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean with all In, who knows, like maybe
by the time the Stay Night's events you start with
Cody and so you know, just like Hangman and Mocked
and starting right in Cody's coming up to start the
show or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, God, who do we fear? Oh right,
we joked that Mariah May would win the title That
day on NXTV watched the actually give Punk the Money
in the bank and El Cash and Serb like it's
just a full in aw alumni class. But yeah no, yeah,
so for me it's an interest road. I love the
actual heel turn you know, Sands Tras Scott. I was like,
find all the promos he did. The U People promo
was a little late, but I thought they're all good.
I liked them all. Like we talked about the WrestleMania
I think like other people, and we've talked about it
after the fact. I was just confused why there was
no rock talk, and then I guess the rock talk,
but like, well, I didn't want to be in that
storymore because they didn't need me, which is like, all right, man,
I was an on last episode, but that whole because
the whole fucking thing he did on Pat McAfee mind
blowing to me. Just the eagle this man has been. Man,
they're blaming me. I better get on there and say
something like I cannot. I would just love to be
a fly on the wall, but that's where I can't.
I'm not fully blame him because I did not like
the truth. Randy finished with our truth or sorry the
truth in sorry God, there's somebody the originary to finish
the truth. Yeah, I didn't think we needed that. You
could have got this Truth and Sina easy in a
backstage segment of Truth just being like, well a, you're
doing that, maggie're my hair, and then Sina fucks them up,
which they did the press conference, like you didn't need
him there, so that's like, I don't think the Rock
made the call, but hey, you should make sure wrong
Killings is interfering there. So I think it's like this
weird combo of vote and Truth and Sena at the
main event, like it is what it is, but it's
just like I, after everything that's happened, I didn't need it.
So I am at the point where yet it's been
a little disappointing and lack luster. I don't beg on
as much, but I agree that that promo he gave
backstage to Jay was really weird. The voice like it
was wrong, but it was odd because he hadn't done
that before, like he's just been like Sina but mad,
but that was like, well, I'm gonna be bad now.
It's like, I don't know if he's doing that on
purpose to be there. Maybe he and the team feel
like you're still getting cheered too much, so just make
yourself lame. I don't know. Obviously not a fant logan pulse.
I don't need this tag team. And again it's not
even that, it's not even even. I don't think there's
anybody you could partner see a wit that I would
be happy, but keep talking about all these dates he
has left. I don't really want seen it in just
a random kind of house show tag team match, you know,
like the art truth sena match has more to be allure.
I get why they did that versus this, Like I
would much rather than just do another defense. I know
everyone's like, oh the punk LAYMP. I agree, I do
want scene in punk, but I don't if they do
it when seen as a babyface. I think they missed
the boat all though, because the story's there, and they've
missed the story a couple of times in this story,
in this like this whole Scena arc where he's doing
the same punk thing he's doing the I'm gonna leave
with the title and that's what seampunk did you know?
Twelve fifteen years ago, so you can flip it. If
it's seen good guys seen on seeing punk scene, I
just don't. I don't understand why, and if it's not him,
like I just think there's other people in the roster
if you're gonna give me a little bit like, hey,
who could he be facing? So that's why I am
on the I want him to lose to Cody pretty
much as soon as possible and just get back to
the nostalage and even if it's just punkin Sina and nostalgia. Sure,
I think the heel turn it was a great moment,
but I don't think the follow up is exactly what
we were hoping for. And the Logan Paul stuff just
kind of muddy stuff. Even is Jay husso thing of like, oh,
wouldn't it be terrible if you lost and to a YouTuber?
And I left with the title? Like it just like
why does Sina care? I guess he's started a room wrestling,
but it's just like, why does this man really care?
If Jay? Why did he give a fuck him? Jay
Hussel's losing the world title, Like why does it matter?
His whole point was I'm ruining wrestling cause I'm taking
the main title. But yeah, I think Cody and Jay
win here. I hope it's not a situation where Cody
pins them and then that sets up that like he's
knocking act she beats Sina like, I don't know. I
think they I don't know. I think they got to
take the strap off. I think a lot of people
are way more mad about it than I am, and
I think there's a lot of people that have been
disillusioned by this story. As I've said before, after WrestleMania
and then after Backlash was the most like maybe I'll
give aw a shot now, Lots those people say that
as a meme and they don't actually do it, but
still that never.
Speaker 3: Happened, and it's like people say, like, oh the like
it's like, well, it's like the suren Knight's main event
had like the highest rating of all the suren niseeight events.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing where I.
Speaker 3: Think people still tune in for Sena even if they're
like hate watching it.
Speaker 1: They do. Yeah. And that's the thing though, where it's
gonna be interesting in the next couple of months, because
I feel like this since Mania, the scot thing was
a hiccup, but since May this has been the most
like crap Triple H has gotten in this era. And
that's what worries me because I could see Triple H
being the guy like now we're gonna have seen him
be a heel to like started to set. I can't
actually see him doing the whole thing at the heel now,
just being you know what, I'm gonna fucking show these
fans that whole like I'm gonna talk to my friend
Mark Promo. I feel like your h has that and
still be like, well they can go fucking watch aw,
especially like you said, when the ratings come in right,
And that's strange because like so farh run up until
Mania that hadn't happened yet. It was all there's issues,
but it was never when I see which I don't
agree with. But when I see fucking people talking about
like Vince wouldn't let this happen, when's Vince, like e
Vince should be here, It's like, okay, let's not fucking
get crazy now. Like I have issues with the product.
I definitely think it's the weakest since Paul's taken over,
but it's vastly superior to like the twenty twenty eighteen
seventeen to like twenty twenty one run, which was just
like yeah.
Speaker 3: I think like all the TV and stuff after Mania
has been like, well, it was definitely better than before Mania.
I'd say like I've been really like like the raw
and smack like even SmackDown, Like I wasn't a fan
of the three hour SmackDown first, but I feel like
after Mania, they've had like good stuff on there, and
I feel like people are just like, yeah, it's like, oh,
it's like the worst, Like I feel like it was
worse like a couple of months ago, but I think
you're still like yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: You're right on the regular. I think it's just those
big decisions right that people are having a tough time
when it is like Sina with Paul and I think
that SNA thing's tough because it's not only the for me.
It's not, like I said, I don't come from the
heel face perspective. It's just the dates. It is like, Okay,
we only have so little time with him. And I'm
not saying he's fucking nine. He's Brett Hard who's like
the best rest in the world, But it's like, do
we really need to see him do this tag match?
I think that's it. And that's why I do think
the money the Bank winners will have that because I
think there's lots of people that view money the Bank's
supposed to be before the rising stars, but I think
they're gonna get a rood awaken this year, and I
think you got a chance of you know, even Naomi.
You can make the argument that like she's not like
a rock, like she is healed, but like she's won
the title, the world title like a few times, like
she's an established star. But I'm fine with Naomi winning.
But we'll see Lyra versus Becky. I heard your are
you are you predicting Lyra's getting the win here via
bailey appearance.
Speaker 3: I feel like I think so because I think it's
just like a weird stipulation for like a face to do, hmm,
like if she loses has to like raise Becky sam
Like I feel like it adds like because it could
be also like people could see it's like, oh that
means like if Becky can't challenge for it again, then like, oh,
that means she's winning it for sure. I feel like
Bailey could could return and coster that and maybe Bailey
beats Lyra for the title at some point. I don't
know how that would work, but yeah, because it's only
it's not she can't challenge for the title. It's not
like the the Cody thing. It's like it's just as
long as Lyra is holding it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the classic Randy.
Speaker 3: I also just randomly remembered that Cody had that slip
for Roman at maybe a forty Like Rock was like,
if you lose, you can't challenge for the title ever again.
I forgot like a random yeah, he said, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that's over. Yeah. No, I remember, uh
my favorite version as Randy Orton did that with Triple
because Randy Orton when he got kicked a Triple or Evolution,
they had so many rematches and then they did that stip.
So then for two months it was just Randy trying
to cost Triple the title so he could challenge for it.
It was it was great stuff actually, and then they
just randomly turned Randy Orton heel because like, well Undertaker
is no one wrestled wrestling, I hear you. And then
he r kills his girlfriend live on TV. It was
very very odd, very odd time Evolution breakup. But I
draft her. I said she's gonna win. I feel like,
because it's not a big deal because like you said,
Lyarr cann't lose any point that Becky gets it. I
just feel I'm with people that I think they are
going to do the Triple Threat evolution where it's Lyra,
Becky and Bailey, and I think that's how you get there.
I could see some weird hapit where Lyra could lose
it to Becky and then Becky could lose it to Bailey,
and how you cap it all off is the Triple Threat,
and then I think you have Lyra win that, so
I think or something Yeah, yeah, well no, I think
they do it that evolution. I think the Big show. Yeah,
the females. I think they have Lyra win it there.
And then maybe you do like a a last chance whatever,
Becky Lynch Lyra che again. Like I said, bring back
three Stages of Hell. I love three Stages of Hell.
Triple Ah, Steve Austin I at three Stages Hell, Oh
my god, one of my favorites ever. I love that.
Even Sean and Triple H was good. But I'm still
gonna say, Becky, I think there's some weird thumbnail too,
where you can see like it's gonna feel like a
fake thumbnail. But Becky hold up the title and Lyra
Homer arm like that feels like a fake thumbnail. But
I can see it in my mind of.
Speaker 3: Either way about it. I could see both ways happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh and then like we talked about, we'll
see about the fifth match that gets at it. But yeah,
I think overall all these matches should be good for
the tag. The tag I'm gonna be interested. But like
we said, Paul's kind of there is like a heater
for Sena. To me, you don't get the real temperature
check on Cody and Cina until the rematch. And if
it's in Atlanta, that doesn't count either, because it's in
Cody's hometown. But that's why I kind and I don't.
I don't know if I it's weird. Cody winning the
title back at Satday Night's main event. I could see
him having a big match there, But to win the
title back like that would seem odd to mean the
panels of time, because there's so many times where Sunday
It's main event just goes away and then it's never
talked about, like the last time it was gone for
like twelve years and it's not even talked about at all,
and it's like, oh, yeah, it's a show we used
to do where at least it's Summer Slam, and they're
doing the Night, one Night, two things, so I still
think it's gonna be Summer Slam. Brooklyn's another hard crowd too,
but again this time, I don't know what the reaction
will be like, but I feel like it would be
more favorable to Cody because I think people are ready
to move on from this, but who knows, maybe maybe
they're not. So and Jay wonting new world Champion by
I'm Slam imagine.
Speaker 3: So I do wonder what Jay is doing, like at
a Summer Slam which he's not the champion, just like
when is the champions again and like at the end
of June, I think like twenty eight, So.
Speaker 1: It's in between, right, yeah, because because that's what I approved,
So I predicted when we're on discord, like Jay versus
Seth at Saudi. I think if they don't do it there,
they could do that Summer Slim. Like you said, it
could be Sammy or someone else, like if if Seth
is versing anyone but Jay. I think Jay and Seth
at the Summer Slam with like a big matchup, And
I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking one of the rumors, I think it was a
boo or something like that was like Jimmy was gonna
go to Raw. So I feel like a Summer Slam
match or something like that could be like the USOS
versus like bron and Bronson Day like for the tag title.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they run them a new Day
back for like the eighth time. Yeah, you could do
the USSOS versus the Bronze. Yeah, that that could work. Yeah,
I think you got that because it's because because yeah,
you could do Seth and Punk because Seth and Punk
they're doing at least one more match, right, and I
feel like the title and you got to get Seth
an actual win here because like he he didn't win
like roll and pull him out of a cage at
the Raw, you know whatever. It was like he he
needs an actual win, even though it'll be cheating. So yeah, yeah,
I think I'm still going my gut that it's Seth
and Jay at Saudie and then yeah, Seth and Punk
at SummerSlam and then yeah, because right we got right off.
Speaker 3: Punk, Seth and Cody at Crown Jewel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Seth and Cody Crown Jewel, and I think Seth
would win that one because I don't think Cody shouldent twice,
and I think Seth should get his win back and
then yeah, like I said, I hope the trajectory is
Seth and Samy. I know lots of people are wrong.
Speaker 3: Seth and like, like if they're doing war games, they get.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's gonna be whatever, dangerous allionss versus Team Punk
and j are whatever. I know everybody's on the not
everybody see lots of people you talked about earlier, But
the Punk Cody match at media, I'm not sold on
that yet.
Speaker 3: I want that my my pick that I've just been
saying just because it's like, just as an example, it'd
be great. Really, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I never know why this is
what I want one time. They're not gonna do it now,
but I would love a faction in the future to
actually do it. Makes sense when there's one title, but
it never makes sense when there's like two world titles
and the faction breaks over who's gonna be the world champion.
I would love a faction be like, hey, I mean
literally to state like we're gonna take over the goal.
My plans be a champion on ra my plans being
a champion like he's gonna be smack that. Like for
Braun and Seth eventually fight. I would love a situation
where Magic of Sets world champion raw and like Braun
wins a rum when he's going after Cody. I don't
think that would main event WrestleMania, but I also think
Cody could take you know, it sounds bad, but like
could take a back seat this year, and whether it's
a bigger match or an actual women's match main event
because unless it's Cody versus Punk, I don't know. I
guess there's always that threat of Roman and him too.
There's all they could always do Roman, Yeah, they could
all they could They absolutely brocking him did it right?
Like I think we're getting it. It's just a question
of win and same because it's like, yeah, what is
what's Oh yeah, you know what that's tough thing. I
feel that, Yeah, well not even so that's you could
be Mania too. I could see you can do Punk
and Seth at may A SummerSlam and Roman because I
can see Roman he'll come back. But I could see
Roman winning the Rumble being gone for a while. Absolutely absolutely,
I could see that because they've always talked about like
multiple times a little less now, but throughout the career
they're like, oh, our goal is the main event, restumata together,
And I could see Triple H doing that because I
think he likes that. The tie with the WrestleManias, like,
I think he likes them going on.
Speaker 3: That's when you do the Mocklear return at the end.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, and he screwed that. He joins
the Seth Liners or whatever. But you no, Like I
don't think honestly, Roman versus Cody or Rome versus Seth
is out of the Roman possibility for either one, like,
because I know we could get him in Jacob, but
it feels like that's kind of gone, Like Jacob's becoming
more and more of a baby face every day, so
that just doesn't really work right now. And Roman's too over,
So I don't know what they're gonna do with Roman.
Roman doesn't even know what he's gonna do. I don't
even know he's gonna go fight do street Fighter and
be back at fucking war games. I don't know. He
took one. He took one spirit through the guardbol from
Brawn and he's he's ridden off TV, like my god, like,
oh well, all right, yeah, how you were there live?
We've talked a little bit about it, but how is
there a night's main event live? And if there's any
matches specifically you want to talk because we talked about
Jay and Paul went up. But what did you feel
about that show being their live?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: It was it was fun.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a very big big venue. It was like
at a college. It was like on a college campus there,
so and yeah, I was like way high up, Like
I was so high up in that our seats like
we didn't even have seats, Like they were just like
bleachers with like no no back to it at all.
So it was a bit uncomfortable. But since the show
was only like two hours, it wasn't that bad. Uh,
I'd say, yeah, there was a lot of people there.
I'd say, just there like most over people. Well, yeah,
it's like the tweet I said that it was like
Cody Sina Jay And when they played the video of
rear Ripley, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a domb event. Everyone's been sharing that
clip where no one gets reaction until Ria crawbs the
mind and that's where it's like we thought Abou was before,
where it's like, yeah, yeah, Rob and Cody about who's
QB or the Cheap It's like really yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Before it's like before I started watching wrestling, like the
only wrestling people I knew just because their videos like
stuff like popped up was like the Rock John on
Sena like Logan Paul and Ria Ripley. Like that's really
the only wrestling related clips I would ever see.
Speaker 1: It would be the people that don't watch wrestling at all,
Like we said before, they know who Ria Ripley is.
Where it's like they don't like they might know the
other people, but like I mean like they know no
and be like, oh that I really like Ripley. They
have no reason, like and then she looks really cool
and she looks hot and I don't or they've seen
a match, but like for them it's just like oh yeah, no,
Ria Ripley, man, that's uh, that's my person there.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, it was fun. Uh. There was like
there's like a huge line of people that like get in,
but like you could just walk to the front and
like just like get in through the doors. Like I
don't know, like there's a huge line of people like
lined up to get into the building, but you could
just like walk up to the front and like no
one really did anything. So that was good. Uh what else, Yeah,
Sirment's was fun. There was definitely a lot. I heard
that there were a lot of like commercials.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of commercial and like even in.
Speaker 3: The building, like sometimes like like a match would end,
they would play like a video package and then do
like one backstage segment and then just go to commercial again.
Like it was like it would feel like there were
just like fifteen minutes of just like the whole arena
just being dark and then just playing like videos and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they it was I can't remember which match it was,
but there was one by one where they might have
been the tape.
Speaker 3: I feel like like Chelsea Green, like she made her
entrance and I swear she was in the ring just
like in the dark while they played video packages for
like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Like there was a situation where yeah, we got back
and I think it was one though there could have
been that situation about and then there's one during a
match where we got back and it was I don't know,
under five minutes and we're already back in commercial. There
there's a lot and it's tough because, like you said,
the show best rating since then you had Punkin set
on there, so it was loaded. So I don't think
it's not you can't make a case for them not
doing it. I guess it always depends what their number is, right,
what they using success. But I think those are successful shows.
They do them every once in a while, it's not
every Saturday, so I think it's fine.
Speaker 3: And he pretty much picks what days they're gonna they're
gonna do them, so they're pretty much saying.
Speaker 1: Like like, well, there's no way they picked that fucking well, that's.
Speaker 3: What they're saying, Like they picked that day, like NBC
picked that day but picked the Grandmaker and bashed to
go earlier, because that's they picked, because like apparently those
are like those are just the days NBC has opened
to play a spot. I need.
Speaker 1: I need to sit down NBC person and say that
to my fucking face.
Speaker 3: That sounds like the was like a fight for one.
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, Sean ross sapp told me no one's being
out of the Hayman group and then right, well that
was the plan, you know, which was so weird because
like him and a boot talk and was like yeah,
I keep hearing they're gonna add people and he not
even that. He he said like, oh that's not what
I'm here. He did a full report, like oh we
can report no one's being out of his group, and
then of course it's back pending. I got no actual issues.
It's just funny work because if it gets one thing
wrong or like semi wrong, and people call them out,
it's it's it's a full thing on Twitter going on.
But that's why, Yeah, that could be the case, and
obviously they add those other shows. So but yeah, no,
it's been funny to watch, you know eight that was
usually on Sunday. Well we'll go to Saturday just in case,
and then Thome, okay, we're gonna laugh me. Well we'll
do Great American Bash and we'll see what happens there.
I said, I don't prefer it for me that we
don't do this full time because it's just like a
pain to watch those all in same thing with the NXT,
like I enjoyed, we'll get there. I enjoyed the I
didn't watch all the match, but I enjoyed the matches
I watched on Battleground, but I would have possibly watched
it Live and say, oh no, I got this going
on and this going on. But yeah, the show, it's
it's tough as a TV watch with the ads and everything.
There's a lot it's just it just breaks a lot,
but it looks still cool. It's still fun to have
Jesse just mad about something. I've said this before, were
like he is so just fucking out there, and it's like.
Speaker 3: It's it's like that's the bit at this point, like
it's like a heel thing because yeah, people pointed out
like there's even a clip of like him commentating like
a steel cage match and I think it was like
the Big Boss and he's like, I think you should
use the door to win this match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting. But yeah, as a show, I
bet Live it's great because yeah, dream the match sho'll
getting those ads. But yeah, watching it, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like even even with like the ads and stuff,
I feel like it's different than a pole where it's
because with this having ads, like for example, like in
the tag match, like Sammy was the first one in
and they're beating him up and I'm like, I know
he's not gonna tag in punk until the commercials are over. Yeah,
so it's like it's different than watching like a like
a PLI and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's so it's so much more reduced because
even Raw, which is I guess sometimes two and half hours, right,
but still win smack News to be two hours, it
feels like there's a longer because with a certain event
they put like these like almost like PLD type of
matches right, like a steel cage or the tag. So
it's like their matches that get sometime obviously seen them,
truth did not, it was what it was. But they
try and give some of the bigger matches time, where
on Raw it's like usually get like I don't know,
one to two matches like get the time and then
the rest of war. There's been some weeks so lately wrestling.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then even then on like Netflix, they
don't really like the ad breaks aren't as long even
like when you compare like like especially on NXT TV,
the ad breaks are super long because that's just like
on the CW, which is like just like a pre
network like those NXT the nxc TV ads feel like
double what like SmackDown or the ad breaks like they
feel like forever. Like I feel like sometimes they even
play the same commercials twice. They're that long cheese weise.
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, So as watching it, was not a
fan of that and obviously there's a couple thing on
that I weren't great. See know, truth is what it is.
Chelsea ands Alena. Yeah, that was that. That was a
tough watch. That was one of those where sometimes you
have It's not that I think Krincky Saints is that level,
but I just me that's where Elena is the thing
where Okay, they gave the title. I think it is
a situation let's see what you got. And I'm not
I'm not trying to be like released a person, demote them.
Speaker 3: Not like that.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just get to see some people are
I don't know, I want her to get one more
maybe shot at that's tough. I don't know, because everyone
can have a bad match. This just felt like worst
match to year quality for me, Like that's that's what
it felt like, and that the botch of the six
one nine they kicked the Chelsea was brutal and it's
fine because the mistakes happened. It was just it felt
Diva's title era, which is not I've not felt that
for a while. I've watched bad women's matches, bad men's
matches that apps all the time, but this felt like
ache into a different era and that's where it's tough,
where it's like I would like her to get another truck,
which Chelsea. I know it's like a two man person
or two woman thing, but it's like with Chelsea have
seen her deliver where zeleeen and I haven't, so you'd
wanted to at the same time, that sometimes happens where
you don't get the ball again if you kind of
you know, I won't say screw that up, but kind
of under delivered. Luckily for them, it's not like it
was the main event or the opener of the show, right.
If that was one of those spots, then I think
they would both be in some trouble, like they'd have
to worry about some things.
Speaker 3: But it's like the like the the Creed Brothers thing,
Like when they first got called up, they had like
main event of Ross for the tag titles against like
the Judgment Day and they like botched on Finn and
I kicked at three point one and like disappeared from
TV for like six months. Yeah, I feel like that's
more of an example of like like you're saying, like
if it's an important match, yes, the.
Speaker 1: Two most just like GMO right the beginning and the end.
So I think it's alsoly next week's money in the
bank cast. So we're doing that. But I think by
time we do the all in predictions and evolution predictions,
would not be surprised if Selina Vega is no longer
the US champion, like I think they put her watch her, yeah,
like I think, and then you established that because at
least the Icy title, Lyra's won it, she's still the
first champ, and to me, that's getting weight. We're established
who was having some good matches and now there's like
a big story tytoo big character with Becky Lynch US
title hasn't had that. The win was big because I
think everyone felt, oh, something good for Chelsea, but then
after that was okay, you got the for her service
or whatever, which yeah, exactly that type of stuff. So
I think Julia will add some to that and that
can build Julia up as well.
Speaker 3: And I think that could be like a like a
Knight of Champions match because they just like just put
a ton of matches on the shows.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I guess it could be. I could also
just see or just like I could see, just I
really could like, well, we'll see. And then what I
think they could do her dirty is they'll do that
on SmackDown and the Night Champions will give Julia like
a like a wrestler wrestler opponent, like someone really good
like that. That's that's the predictous. Yeah, even me, like
I know mich will give her a better match, like
there's a chance. Because we haven't talked about this yet
right now, Kir, we're like a lot of things are
kind of intertwining. But the rumor is that va Kiir,
Grace and Saints are going up, and I think the
like Stephanie's for sure on Raw the feelings Grace is
getting on SmackDown. I know they've done something at NXT,
but like, honestly, you can just do Julia and Grace
and fucking Saudie and I think, like I think, I think.
Speaker 3: Julia Grace is playing more an evolution. Yeah, I feel
like they run that back there.
Speaker 1: But then who do you, like, I said, who do
you do at Night Champces? I guess there's always meet Chaim,
There's always who else is there on Julie just fucking
kills there and.
Speaker 3: They actually that was Julia's first The w W matches
like a squash too. I remember it being like, like
pretty good, So maybe they just do that.
Speaker 1: They could, Yeah, they could, Like I said, I'm saying
the meme big Giver Jade and see just see what happens.
See see what happens. But yeah, well we'll see and
then anything else and then yeah, Drew and David. I
like the K match a lot. Sucks that Damien's like
all these reports like yeah he's going, but like he's
gone for a while, Like it sounds like he's pretty
banged up, So which is fine, Go he take the
time off. He's had a good run here. He'll get
a pop when he comes back, people will be missing
him because again my issues was that I think they
had a lot of momentum with him last year after
Punk and they cut and I, like I've said before,
I thought the Bloodline Hunter was a perfect way to
keep the momentum going. Yeah, ron Home took him down
and that's where I would love him to pick that
back up again. But if not, him going away is
not the worst thing because when he comes back there'll
be big stories. Kind of sucks that I'm with Andrew
probably Drew great. Yeah, I'm kind of with people.
Speaker 3: Like a title match that like the rumble or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or if Drew's a rumble surprise, right, that's the
thing where he could be that that could always be
the what do they do now? Chambers always like a
big stage now too. But yeah, I'm with some people
too that I'm kind of disappointed we might not get
Drew and Sena because I thought that was gonna be
something really good and who knows how long Drew's gone,
but I think it's gonna be one of those just
kind of two ships passing that we might not get
it happened, So sucks because Drew's one of my favorites.
I love watching him on TV. I like his work style,
I like his promo style. We'll see what happens with Priests.
Seems like Prieste is gonna be in the US title
picture because he's stared down Fat too, and that could
be good. But yeah, we'll see what happens. But yeah,
I don't even know what they'll do with Drew in
the future. Maybe switches brands and goes to raw and
they tie the Seth thing up, right, because for a
while they kept they kept doing shows where they were
in storylines, but Seth and Drew would bump into each
other and do the stare down. So I always thought
that was going somewhere, And again I'm super disappointed.
Speaker 3: That's like apparently was one of the original plans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to be like a Seth action before this, which
was yeah, like like people are saying like they have
an outright set it, but I think the feeling was
like it was gonna be Seth and Ko and Drew
or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, the problem group of like what the justified Zillain group. Yeah,
And that's what sucks, because I really liked drew stories
the way they were intertwined. I know people don't really care,
but I was super disappointed when he said, oh, when
I was going only one person called I don't know
who that one fucking first was We're never gonna get that.
They just dropped that. But like that to me was intriguing.
I'm like, oh, he's a bag. Yeah even it was that,
but yeah, we didn't get that. So we'll see.
Speaker 3: And then there's theory when there's the fake leak that
he was winning the chamber. I was like, it's gonna
be Cody and Drew at the Rock in its corner,
and the Rock was the one who called them.
Speaker 1: In retrospect, I wish we maybe went that route. I
wish now, I guess not because Drew's hurts. That would
grew things up. But you know, alas here we are.
But uh yeah, and then before we get aw we
had battle ran lots of crazy stuff going on there.
Dave Tobo with Stephanie mckier. I watched the Kiers match,
I watched the men's sound, then I watched the TEENA.
I didn't get around to watching the North America Wands,
and then I can't watch the family stuff. I can't
watch that. And then everyone told me the calling like
don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: This six men, like it was better than I expect
I was expecting, like I don't know, just like two
point five three TV hat. I thought it was pretty fun,
like good, it was enjoyable. They all they all did
their their stuff, they got their stuff and and uh yeah,
I thought it was enjoyable. Like I wasn't expecting much
from that one. And yeah, the family one, like it
was just like just that both their styles just aren't
very like they don't do a lot of like flashy moves,
like compared to a lot of people on the next teas,
So it was just kind of like a slow like
brawling match. And yeah, Stacks one, but it was just
like didn't they like Luke Chris Fino just like stood
at ringside and.
Speaker 1: Tonha Omega the spot of.
Speaker 3: He was just like looking at him, and then like
Stack's just like low blowed him and like hit his
finisher and like Stack does like never want a match,
so no one knew like what his finisher was, and
I'm pretty sure it was just like a running knee.
It was just like like Danielson's running meals this finisher apparently,
and yeah he won.
Speaker 1: And then what do you think about North American Women's
tuck Because I've not watched that, I've heard it's in
that same vein of like aspraing Ricochet where it seems
like it's very divided of lots of people, a lot
of the US bill hate it. All I can weigh
in on is, you know the other thing that's been
is the finish? What's her finish again?
Speaker 3: The soul snatcher, Yeah, soul.
Speaker 1: Snatcher, very athletic. I don't hate the move like other people.
I think at times it does look a little awkward.
Speaker 3: It's all the time. I don't care when people jump
for someone else that's finisher, Like when the Rock jumped
for the Cody Cutter made like that was sick. I
don't care that any jump, I think, because sometimes.
Speaker 1: It does look it looks very like play child, like
I'm going for it. But that's like if you don't care,
then it's fine. It's very impressive. It's just it. It
is like an odd finish, but it's it's so athletically impressive.
It's something that I could just kind of look past,
but wearing you because I know your fan of HERB,
But yeah, where were you on this match?
Speaker 3: It was definitely building on like I think it built
on the first match, because the first match is very
much like I wouldn't be surprised if Bill is like
all pre planned out and rehearsed, because it was like
very much like that like Ricochet offspring match, just like
tons of flips and like dodging people's moves and like
the matrix dodge and stuff like that. And then this
one like they started the match like that, but then
it went into like much more of a normal match.
Like the first sequence was like that spot where they're
like kicking in doing backflips over eacho's moves and like
stop they do it. Like I think on the first
hatch they did the full on like superhero pose.
Speaker 1: On this one they like the that's where the ricochet
awspreak compares the same thing back in the day. Yeah,
that's where it was.
Speaker 3: And this one they just did more of just like
their their normal moves, like I'll say, a lot of
still very athletic stuff like colinne Jordan does like a
version of like because Carmela Hayes does one of his
moves is like where like person's like hung over the
top rope and he does like a leg drop like
in the ring, she does a version of that where
it's like does that, but when she jumps up, she
starts in like the other direction in mid air like
turns around and then does the leg drop. And yeah,
she was doing like like Collie Jordan does like an
like an angle slam and stuff like that, like a
lot more moves and stuff like that, and yeah, I
really liked that tho was. I thought it was awesome.
I thought it was a great match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I meant to watch. I have to because I,
like I said on the last takeover when they hit
the ladder match, I'm like other people, I got invested
in the her and that what's her name again?
Speaker 3: There? Oh, there was a spot where they did they
did uh like Klanie was gonna give her like a
like a poison rattena and then she like she does it.
Solruka lands on her feet and then does like like
a spear like Czaria. Oh that was like like a
near fall, and eventually Zaria like I think at one
point she she caught her on the outside of the
ring and like put her down, and then also she
like just like pulled like blatantly pulled her out of
the ring like when Klani was gonna do her finish
and she got kicked out from u from like she
got ejected, but then she was standing at like the
very end of the ramp like still watching the match.
She got ejected. Yeah, yeah, no, I like that they've
like adopted Tatum Paxley on on an.
Speaker 1: Excite saw like dolls and stuff like that. I hope
it's a group they don't break up, and that'd be
someone to start them to out to just inject into
the women's tag division, like on the main roster. That
would be great. I wherey they'll probably break them up before,
but who knows. I think syl Rook it's tough because
they already got that speed championship, and I feel like
she's another one that like there's two routes for her.
She could be like another main NXT woman to take
over lots of those people leaving, or she could be
someone in five months I see, Yeah, they're bringing her
up because they like her. That she what it doesn't
matter how people talk about the matches. It's one of
those conversations start. She has a good look, she has
a good vibe, she has very cool move set. So
that's where it's like I could see in five months
her already being on the main roster. I just can't
get a read because same thing with Grace. Grace was
in there that long, a little bit different, but still
like I don't know, so that's the same thing. If
the longer she's in n XT, I think there's a
longer the chance happens at the breakup angle happens and
they do it there, but that's when I hop and
she gets caught up like Seniers SINCD Like bring that
to the main roster because who thought it was for
the women's Need More tag. I think they'd be a
good way to start it. You could break up them
up there and then you can push them whenever, right
because I don't think before that trajectory of like, oh,
you got to win the NXC women's title then go up.
It seems like they're not doing that as much right
now with the titles. Like it's just like same thing
with Ricky and Grace, right like if they're both going up,
they're there shortly Saints only on the secondary Grace won
nothing and then they're already going up. So I don't
think Sol has to stay there, but I could see
a situation right now she's gonna hold it down.
Speaker 3: The thing with Grace is like she was like she's
like as part of WW. She wasn't there a long time,
but like last year she made like a couple appearances
and like had matches in NXT like when she was
in TNA, So I feel like they could. The one
that's definitely is like the Ricky One is like, yeah,
they just want like, well, I think that was the report.
They didn't have any Mania plans for them, so they
just said go to n xt on leave figures, which make.
Speaker 1: Sense to me. It was like a fun little run there.
And I watched the prone that I didn't get to
watch the match, but and Saints like, yeah, I think
there's It's interesting what they're gonna do with him when
they bring them up. Are they gonna go the Russ
of Black route where it's just Saints versus you know,
random lower card guy for a little bit, or is
he gonna be in a big Angle three? Well, yeah,
you could do either way. He could align with Punk
or he could align with Seven. There'll be war games.
It'll just be it'll be Seth for his team. Aw,
it'll be him, it'll be Saints. They'll get Ethan Page
up there. You know, they'll wait for Bridie King's contract
to expire, get him over there. But you no like
to me, I I would like because I feel like
I'm already not uninterested. But with Black and Russ if
it just feels like they came back and I don't know,
I I like when it's a completely kind of new
person I like the versus random Restler build them up,
but when we kind of already know them, like especially
those who've been around for all the same thing Saints, Like,
I don't need a six week run of him versusing
awesome theory and then Grayson Wall like it just doesn't
I really feel like get them over that much. He
just gets appeal to know them. I would love Saints
to be in at Angle right away, like right away
he is in even if he was with Seth's group,
Like he can.
Speaker 3: Be like the I see, like like he could be
part of the story, but like on Punk, like the
it's like he joins first on Punk's team and eventually
like turns on them and joins Seth's team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm completely for that. Like I think that with Rusive,
I agree with people. I think the working theory is
that they're gonna eventually I don't know, do you remember
you were watching, but do you have you heard about
how they put the bar Seamus and Czarro together. I
think that's what they're doing with him and Russive right now,
where they're gonna fight, but then eventually they're just gonna
team them up. And you know, then Russem doesn't have
to take no pins because he'll be in a tag
division and that's fine. So that's fine. Black. I really
don't know. I get like maybe they are gonna do
something with is that whole like yeah, yeah, yeah, right yeah,
I guess just the mid card scene for a little bit.
So that's where with Saints. I'd like one of these
newer guys used to be in right away because I
would say, like Stephanie, like she's getting me right away.
If Julia wins us, tell that's right away, Grace, I
hope it's something right away because I am with David
where she did. She did lose a lot in NXT,
you know, like she I I kind of now in retrospect,
and I thought the match was great with her and Steffite.
They had really good chemistry. I really want them to
turn Grace heel. There was that moment when she went
for the Devil's Kiss and she rolled out and slammed right.
Speaker 3: In front Booker and she does the like like that's
the thing with the Devil's Kiss now, like the first
time everyone gets out of it because it gets like insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. But what I love about was she
slammed her in front of booker. That's what I love
the getting out, Like the getting out was a great
spot because like she used her power. But I love
she slammed her in front of a booker and then
she's just like staring a booker. And I said this
to you like months ago when she lost. At first,
I'm like, oh, I want her to be a heel
just because I feel like it's a babyface. She might
get a little lost right now, and as she's still
good enough as a babyface, that's fine, but as a heel,
like we have Raquel and we have Naya, but I
feel like she's kind of like she could be like
the anti area of like the big muscly woman but
on the bad side. Just in that moment when she
slammed Stephanie from Booker, I was like, oh, you got heel.
Like the isms were there, and she didn't even fully
lean into it because she was still like a babyface,
but you know she almost wandered. And then she looked
at that title and No, those two were really great.
Like Stephanie, I have not seen that much of I
saw the mini aw run and then a few of
these nxttel matches, but and the EO Mattress was great,
but no, that was my favorite there, and that was
up there with like double or nothing. They had multiple
four five or like four or four point five matches
that was in that ILK of that week, and of man,
that was just delivered great near falls. There's a I
don't know what they call, but she does like that
you know, tilt world back breaker where she slams them
on the knee. I didn't think Grace was losing there,
but the way Stephanie sold them and she kicked out
the like the zoom in some wrestlers when they do that,
it feels fake as fuck and it's like, oh the kid,
It's like, no, okay, you never believe. But Stephanie legitimately
looked like I thought I had her, and it was
really good. I do think though I would have preferred
them that Stephanie lost to Grace and then Grace lost
to Jason Jane, just to give Grace like one big
win because she hasn't got that big, that big moment yet.
So that's why I've said, then you do the heel turn.
You can lose a little bit and even do the
heel turn. Pair up with Naomi, Like they've teased that
a few times in the Rumble again, that'd be another
great for the Woman's tag. She could even be Naomi's
heater for a bit, and maybe there's a situation where
Naomi's the money in the bank winner and that's how
you kind of turn Grace Like, Grace is somebody where
I've been watching for a long time and she was
never bad. But back in the day she was just
like just like a powerhouse, just like the bigger lady
did those moves. But now she's so smooth, so super
she was like even when she was in the first
all in like from there to then, completely different talents.
So that was a really good match, and I'm excited
for them both. Like Stephanie, she's gonna I don't know,
like I'm if you were just tell me, hey, WRESTLEMANI
they're gonna Doria versus Stephanie for the title. I wouldn't
even say you're crazy because I just feel like that
that's gonna be a very mediocre rise and Grace, I
think is just a great talent. But like I said,
my preference is she's only in the Women's Battle Royal.
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah.
Speaker 1: Media fuck, I can't say it? What do you say it? Media?
Or thank you? I needed just just like there's another
word I always subsequench see some subsequentially some uh sub subsequentially. Yeah,
there is a good geek for Blooper or b Kirklan
Tayor could not say it. We were trying to say it.
So but that's my pitch for Grace pair with Naomi.
But yeah, that was a really good match. But yeah,
what are your thoughts on the whole you know, that match,
but also the Jayzon Jane out of nowhere taken? Obviously
they were getting called up, but you know, we don't
know what notice because to me, it's strange of like
if they knew this was happening, I'm surprised that this
wasn't like a triple threat on the battleground. But yeah,
what are your thoughts on the women's division on XT
with all the ships and now Jason Jane's champ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the whole Jason Jane thing, they were definitely like, like,
at least as a battleground happening, they knew that was
gonna happen because that battleground they had backstage segments with
j C. Jane and that's how like the match happened,
because there was like her and Fallon were like arguing
the entire show and then she like came up and
slapped Stephanie and that's what set up the match. I mean,
at least from then they must have known that it
was happening. But yeah, the match, it was great, Like
just an awesome match that like the Tombstone reversal spot
that Jordan like someday they have to actually let her
hit it. But that's that's what it was great.
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 3: What else was really good? Yeah, like you said, that
far she got out of the Devil's Kiss the first
time was great because yeah, like everyone stood up and
then then sat back down.
Speaker 1: Uh what else?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'll see. I always like her winning with like
her secondary finisher like that one was just really cool
to see. Uh. And yeah it was. It was a
really good match. They have really good chemistry. And yeah,
Jordan is definitely like like you said, like she hasn't
won really that much an nic, but her matches are
always great. Yeah, I'm excited for her on the main roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a workhorse, so I can't wait. And then yeah,
the two matches Joe Trick was. You know, it was fine.
It was good. I think the crowd.
Speaker 3: Elevated of the opening to the match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole Omega Brian spot, but like the crowd
was hyped, so that helped the match, and I think
it was like a fine match. And then Born and
uh Oba was I've not seen Born wrestle maybe like
a few times, but really not in anything hyph PROI
like this, but I liked it. I like that Bourne
was kind of like this grappler that was trying to
out maneuver Oba, but it was just a four. So
I thought that was a really good Obviously, I know why.
That didn't mean I still think Stephanie and uh Gray
should have main evented. I thought it was still weird,
like the TEENA title. I get it, big moment with
Trick and Trick. Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting what
they do with them, because I still I know he's
not the you know Catches Catch Scan, the greatest wrestler,
but I like he's still like not entrance happened. He
still got that aura he's got. He just looks like
a fucking star.
Speaker 3: One of the things, if you know who is his
first opponent in TNA for the title. Their trying to guess.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought I heard this, but I never forgotten
about it. I did see it, But who is it?
Speaker 3: I'll give you a hints if you can try. I
guess it's a former w W person.
Speaker 1: Was it one of the Hardy's? No, okay, then I
don't know.
Speaker 3: It's Elias or Elijah.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't think I saw that. Then that's
quite the pick there, which is funny because it's like
people's pictures like, well, he's gonna win the TEENA title
and go work with some people, like maybe work on
some ring hears. It's like, I don't know if Elijah
Elias is the first, and I would be picking there,
but uh yeah, like I don't know. There's people in
the main roster like the Miz. I think Trick will
be fine. I think you also gotta get Trick up
there because I did not know he was thirty seven.
I that was crazy, which is still fine because Batista
start like he is nearly forty when he got his
Mega push, Like it's still fine, people can work, but
I did not know that he looks like a young guy.
So to me, it's like definitely get him up there,
this this heel stuff, like it's a character work with him.
So I'm I'm a big maybe trick defender. I've not
seen everything. I don't watch NXC weekly, so I know
there's been some people have had set through some trick
matches that maybe weren't the best.
Speaker 3: But like I think he has I feel like he
can trick is like he can have great matches with
great people. Yes, like it's and I think with the
main roster you have a lot of great people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which and there's a lot of people like a
lot of time on RAR smacked and you don't wrestle
like He's not gonna have to do like the the
main event of n x T every time. You know,
there's sometimes where you're having like a twelve minute TV
match or you can be in a triple threat that
covers you a bit. So, uh, we'll see, But yeah,
what were your thoughts tricks new champion and then yeah,
Oba's still champion for a bit. It might not be
Saints taking it offome So I'm not sure if I
was just gonna.
Speaker 3: Run with that, I feel like, yeah, it'll because right now,
like people they've had set up for Ova is like
like the winner of LFG is like like and then
like Ova on TV was like, oh, like, I see
because he just had like a match, like his debut match,
and Ova like he didn't like challenge him for the title.
But that's obviously where they're gonna go. And then after that,
I don't know who else really for the men. I mean,
I don't know, maybe just do like Miles born again.
At some point they you.
Speaker 1: Thought Javon, but Javon seems like he's going to the
North American topicture for at least a little bit, right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I don't know, but I feel like, yeah,
it's definitely gonna hold it for a while. I mean
he held the North American title for a long time.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: Or hell, maybe there's some fucking a W talent we
don't know whose contract expiring that They're like, well, we
can put them.
Speaker 3: There, you know, U.
Speaker 1: Jericho get that good? Could you imagine? Can you imagine
that music? And they would just I.
Speaker 3: Could see him doing like the what's called the TV
time with Christiac and then next see I feel like
that set up with the Little Little.
Speaker 1: Tree God damn oh man. Okay, so we got that stuff. Okay,
So with Dela thing, I have the.
Speaker 3: The the stuffinite E would care post there.
Speaker 1: This sign was alright, yeah, where do you have that there?
Speaker 3: Just like there you see?
Speaker 1: Okay, I see that, but he said you get the
last one?
Speaker 3: Eh? Yeah it was the last one. Well I think
they had more inside, but they had like an outside
merch truck. And yeah, also a funny amoment there with
somewh like some of the merchants like still call on
Ricky Stars and the guy I was like, yeah, you
know said that was his name for five years, so
you know it's still call that.
Speaker 1: This one's been really hard for me. I don't know why.
If it's just because it's like just the last name change.
I'm getting a bit better with it, but yeah, it's
been tough for me. I always slip into Stark, So
that's why I'm just trying to go with the Ricky
for now. But I druve Saints a couple of times.
So with double or nothing, what has or is there
anything else aw or sorry w NXT related to shout
out talk about?
Speaker 3: I'm sure I think not really. I guess we could
talk some like worlds collide a little bit just like yeah,
predictions sort of or just talking about the card.
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta get the Yeah, thank goodness, they
took the title off U L. Patron not last night so,
which was kind of neat and known raised big time
on this poster. But he's not even announced for this.
But uh yeah, you got Lego Dell Fantasma versus Oh
Cycle Cycle Clown god El hadj D Doctor Wagner Junior,
and then Pognano and then Ethan Page defending it set
out against the Laredo Kid and Ray Phoenix and Javon
Evans and Stephanie Vicker and leel of Vice versus Chick
Tormenta Dolly's and then Latino World Order versus the Ogon Junior,
Aerostar and mister Iguana. That's quite Yeah. I'm interested again
because this is happening at the This happening next week
the same day, right, so I have to see.
Speaker 3: I think it's like on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh is it just on YouTube? Okay?
Speaker 3: So because it's like I think like Mexico doesn't have
Peacock or something, so I think they're.
Speaker 1: Just okay on YouTube. I'll be interested to see. I
want to see the setup I wanted to feel quite different,
but it's tough at they are always like a polished product.
But and I'll be interested to see if Chad Gable
gets the win because I thought if he was gonna win,
they would have it as like El Grande Americano getting
the wins. So that's why I'm surprised. Is Chad Gable here.
So I don't think he's gonna win, But I also
don't think it's out possibility that he may win in
the next few months. So yeah, that's what I want.
I just I think there'll be some very fun style
match up here. The four Way I bet is gonna
be goodcause Laredo kid, he's at least someone I have
seen on this card.
Speaker 3: He's gonna say like pretty much all the people I've
heard of on this card are the ones I've heard
to be good and like all the people I hadn't
heard of, or people I hear saying like like aren't
good or like are washed or one of them, I
think it's I think it's mister i Guana's like people's
days like he's the Jay So of Triple A where
he's just over but uh yeah, but I feel like
it's gonna be a fun show, definitely interesting to see.
Just like yeah, like you said, like the setup and
they do it, if the look is gonna be different
or anything. I saw Even Lucca blog was asking, like,
I wonder if if they're gonna use WWE rules, they're
Triple A rules, which is just like every match is
just like bloodline rules. True.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I would like it where if
it's the like the North American Championship, that should be
w rules, but if it's Triple A, it.
Speaker 3: Should be the International twenty count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sul, I would like that if yeah, he was
Triple A Mega Championship match, it's those rules, it's not
the w rules. I would they used to do that
with New Japan when they they still don't when they
defend on AW when that's they got the twenty count
as well, Like, I would like them to carry over
those rules. It just makes it a little unique. I
would understand if it wasn't the main roster. I't want
to do that. But this is like a crossover show,
so I feel like have some fun with it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And yeah, like I said, yeah, I think probably
best match. I feel like probably either Chad Glovi can
go or the Four Way. I could see the four
of being really.
Speaker 1: I think the Four Way is gonna be. I think
the four is gonna steal that show. You got a
lot of people in there, and I think it's gonna be. Yeah.
I think there's gonna be a lot of big spots,
and I just think it's gonna have a really good pace,
like if you can't go on Gable could be really good.
So don't get me wrong, but that forwaight to me
just has like show stealer written all over it. So
it's gonna be. It's gonna be, And I feel like
that could be the match from the weekend if Money
Bank has some like all right matches, because because yeah,
Lyar and Becky was really good, so I think the
rematch will be good. The money the banks are always
you never know what you're getting with them. They're always fun,
but you never know if you're getting I feel like
all Time Money Thanks, you're either a getting like an
all timer, are getting a dud like it you never
You sometimes can get the middle of the road matches,
but I feel like.
Speaker 3: Like last year's Men's one was just like I don't know,
like that was.
Speaker 1: A dud one, I thought, Yeah, but the women's one
was really good.
Speaker 3: So that's where like a like a car crash one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember right, it was very dangerous.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this one for for both sides. I think
the men's one is definitely like an interesting lineup, like
I think it could be fun. The women's one also, Yeah,
it's sort of interesting.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of weird styles in there.
Speaker 3: There's a couple I think you could have a lot
of like nasty bumps and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And the women's one and is gonna try and kill
himself again because he always does that in these and yeah.
Speaker 3: The women the sunset flip on the I hate it.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 3: It's just like one that did it, and it like
he hit it so hard it like bounced them.
Speaker 1: Like it was a spot. Yeah, yeah we'll see.
Speaker 3: But yeah you got it pend to destroyer on it
or awful ladder it's.
Speaker 1: Gotten don't even don't even w two K. So yeah,
I did forget about that show. So yeah, World's Club
we'll probably talk about a little bit next week. Depends
depends money. The bank of big stuff happens. It takes
long time, but yeah, we'll definitely have notes there and
I'll try and catch some at least those two matched
up for sure.
Speaker 3: Catch just depends if it's on YouTube, you can just
like get to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. All right, then we had double or Nothing,
which was the big setup to we got all in
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Now, the only one I got to watch, like in
full full was the Anarchy in the Arena because I
want to watch the most.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so what do you so? I guess I
can ask you that, well, one, what do you think
about Anarchy and the arena? And then two we can
tie it in too because.
Speaker 3: I'll talk talk about like the results.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, so as I was going to talk
to you about us marks like keeping that title in
end so we can do Anarchy Arena, we'll talk about
Aspray and Hagmar here and then I can talk about
the match call the other. But yeah, what do you
think about Anarchy and the Arena?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought it was a lot of fun. I
think it definitely improved on, like, like I said, the
complaints that I had about the one last year, where
last year I felt like there was a lot going on,
but it was like sort of like disorganized, Like there
were a lot of big spots, but everyone was like
sort of doing their own thing and it was just
kind of hard to follow. Yeah, I didn't feel that
with this one, Like there was still a lot of
big stuff going on, but I felt it was a
lot more organized and focused on, like like it's something
big wasn't happening in like one of the four. Yeah,
when they went split screen, it was just like people
like brawling like last year when they went split screen,
Like in one of them, someone was like doing something
crazy and it's like, oh, you just like miss that.
Speaker 1: They placed the big spots and pops together better, and
I felt like the they would start to interact where
it's like people be find backstage and then people were
on the main stage, and eventually those people from backstage
would like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like Swerve and Canny, we're finding the bucks.
And at one point, like other people started to come,
like it was like Joe and Claudio and it's like okay,
eventually all tied together. Because I agree with you, were.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they try to keep people closer together, yes,
And I ya.
Speaker 1: I like these matches. It's just like I said before,
like that the multi stuff in the crowd does get
a little just like hey, when I'm supposed to fall
and it's just like I'm always like sounds super cheesy,
but like what is the story of the match, And
that's where some of these ones it's like for like
sometimes ten to fifteen minutes there's literally like no story.
This is just big spot back spot where this one
actually felt a little like you talked about, like more
pace together than spot wise. And one thing I liked
about it is, I know it sounds stupid, but it
says in the discord it felt like at times they
were working really fast in a good way. Though there
was just like there's that one time on the stage
where it's like spot after spot after spot by like
I said, it felt like Avengers Endgame where it was
just like they were going and that's where it fit
with doing it to let the bodies hit the floor.
It was just like pandemonium. It's like thing after thing.
It was just like but like you said, I think
there was a good rest period where Okay, Kenny and
Swerve just took out the bucks. They got taken out.
Now we're going down the willow.
Speaker 3: It was timed very perfectly because every time, like one
of the examples was like I was watching, it's like
I feel like I haven't seen Kenny in like ten minutes,
and then like right there, okay, this is good. And
I felt like they timed people's like rest spots, yes,
like well enough, where like all of something was always
going on, and.
Speaker 1: I actually thought they did stuff where people got a moment,
because sometimes it's like other than the main characters. There
was just like a three minute portion where Will Hobbs
was just sucking everybody up and they made him like
I said, he looked like Batista O five in there
for a second where I was like, man, this guy
had beat mocks.
Speaker 3: Everyone got a yeah, even like like Shabbati, you know
my hero throwing dah in the trash.
Speaker 1: He did, and even then like got a good reaction
was when he wrapped the barberie around his foot and
then he like Chess kicked in the crowd. I was like,
oh my god, Like they did a much better job
and everyone got a moment. There was still some weird
stuff of like I get what they did, but like
Hook came in to get revenge on clot and then
bounced and it was like, and I get what they're
doing because he looked at Joe's pissed. The story is
gonna be He's mad that they replaced him right with Hobbs,
because remember he got hurt. But it still was like,
all you're gonna do to Claudia is just hit him
with the glove and they like what they like. That
was still after that and there's still timiss like he
just hes like you could like to me, that would
have been a situation where like, oh, you could have
used that spot to write Claudia off the match, like
Cook takes them out and that like even if they
could win it, it's like, no, I took Claudia out.
He's hurt. I still don't know what the fuck they're
doing with Gabe kid here, because at least they didn't
do the meme finish like you said where they they
which was this is where my hope for all in.
They tease the meme finish where looks like the good
guys are gonna win. Gabe comes in Clear's house and
then Kenny gets put in the bulldog choke and this
is where Samoa Joe comes to break it up. The
pop was huge because the crowd was like, fuck, we're
getting this, so that sort it's like, man, are they
finally like yeah, this is running its course. And that's
one thing I will say about this too. Like the
deaf writers for I'd say at least last four and
a half months has not been fun. This helped for
them because it was finally like we're doing some fun
stuff with like Moxley and Shakir and like even you
to like it was just not so dead serious where
it's like man, every time they're on the cart, it's like, fuck,
it's gonna go down. But this was like, okay, an
actual highlight. But they were so smart to tease the
Gabe kid finish and not do it.
Speaker 3: But I still wish kid was here because they're doing
it at all.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, maybe it is. And again I said
this in the discord. It's so when they didn't match,
it was I can't remember who Will's partners were, but
it was him. I think it was Speedball and oh
brisco which Briscoe made sense.
Speaker 3: Because they're doing they're doing Briscoe versus Max this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which made sense because he interferew match. That's fine.
Don't know where speedball came from at all in the story.
It was just like like there's so many people you
can see.
Speaker 3: He's just like the nice baby face who just like
teams up of everyone.
Speaker 1: He's the baby face and GMO that always has like
eighty stam. You're like, yeah, we're booking you, like that speedball,
you know. And he had a good match with o'cond' caughd.
It like David said, he woke up. He showed up
and he's like I'm gonna cause he knows he's getting
ready for that Kenny match. He's like, I gotta fucking
get this ring round stuff.
Speaker 3: But no, this that's like this is like this is
the most you can get out of a car, Like
the least is like Legion Ocada.
Speaker 1: That's the absolutely he yeah, absolutely, when it's when it's
like a championship eliminator. Yeah yeah, but no that was
good and yeah this this to me was my favorite
one because it was paced well and lots of fun
moments and like even then when they had the music
where they had Kenny switch to get excited, which was
like the Dyamite theme for one week, and like it
felt like the best of old a w Worth, like
the Bucks is like yeah, yeah, and kudos to them
for rest of the whole, not even just in the
get up jacket like yeah, like dying in there, they
had the jackets and yeah they had great like even
I was I imagine they got clearance like swerve like
not even prayer gear, just dressed as the prayers, Like
I hope they got clearance. Goes when David's like what
I miss Penady and stuff like he had the helmet.
But some great moments there. So now this to me
was actually my favorite one lift.
Speaker 3: It was really good too. Yeah, just like that's another
thing that there's just like stuff going on where like
every time you're forgetting about something, they just come back
and do something cool. Like yes, we're of just like
coming in with the fork clifts.
Speaker 1: And stuff, and that's what they do. It feel like
even if you had some brawling for a while, like
you said, they'd bring in a big moment to kind
of wake up the crowd.
Speaker 3: And no, and that's why I like to tell yeah,
it's like that's what you're saying. Like Hobbs, he was
like taking everyone down and then they like get him
down and they're just like beating him up and it's
like okay, crowd going down, and then Swear comes in,
It's like, okay, back up again. It's like, yeah, they
very much knew like how to keep the crowd invested.
Speaker 1: And it was a little bit because let me low
that was at least half it was like three five.
Speaker 3: I mean I watched it. Yeah, it was like prety.
And that's without entrance to this exactly. This is like
probably like forty five fifty minutes.
Speaker 1: And obviously because like we might who knows about if
Tony's pivoting what not, but there could be some changes
in the alln card. What I liked about that finish
was it was swore we had the fucking tack shoes
they went on sale. I'm not the tack shoes, but
his shoes went on somebody did that and then he
took up. But that's why I like that you could
return that story. But that also worked as like a
Swerve Gud's revenge for costs of them. Like I thought
that was like a perfect we don't have to return
this because I don't think they're doing Swerve and well
they're not doing Swerve and Hayman, but like they clearly
knew that and but yeah, that to me was actually
my fairite one. It was tons of fun and uh
yeah and I uh it was a great time. So
that can transition us into so like I said, dap
Ryers took a loss. I lost the three man. The
main event was Hayman fus Osprey. I have not decided
what it's gonna be, but at least on my uh
my drop kick list, I'm keeping track of my match
the years that's in there. This was fantastic because yes,
you got the everyone loves the dog will Osprey about
going one hundred and ten percent all the time. What
I loved about this, and I'm I'm sure at some
point you might see, but what I loved about it
is eventually they started to do this stuff where hay
Men kept like like like face like smudging him and
like really bullying him, and he would do this thing.
Right at one point he like put Hayman or he
put Ospray in the corner and Osprey would hit him
and him would know sell it, and then Hangman would
hit him and he would sell it. So then like
about fifteen minutes of the match, they made Ausprey just
get like really pissy about it and that's where he
started to like it was almost like a double turn.
He started like using the steps, using the table, and
even the announcers were like, oh, you don't want to
win this way, So it was cool. They made Ausbury
like an annoyed little kid of like I can't beat
this bigger brother, and that's why I liked about it.
And that's why at the end the handshait kind of
met more because Osprey was getting really shitty even then,
like people, I don't track this, but they've like noted
when he like takes down the album pad and usually
it's only for like the people he hates, and he
did this for Hangman. So that's what it was cool.
Where it started as like, oh, we're having this great
wrestling match, where Ausbury was like I fucking hate like
he's kind of like was embarrassed in the match, but yeah,
for me, this was this is a five star I love.
Like at one point Hangman used swerves finisher, uh oh,
Osprey used Kenny Omegas finisher. They're calling back to all
their rivals and all these different stories. It was like
good inn like linking of stuff and I really enjoyed
it and auste a bit of the finish has a
bit through the star factor because like I was surprised.
I want Hangman a win by that now it's gonna
be well. But no, this was a phenomen This felt
like it should be like a feud ender type of match,
where it's like, Okay, I've had two matches and this
is the finale, but this was the first. It was
almost in the sense that I actually never want them
to wrestle again. I actually never I want them just
to leave it as one. I'm sure they will, but
it was fantastic and yeah, so Hangman one. Yeah, for me,
this is a match You're contender right now. It's like
it's them, It's the Hollywood Ending, it's the three way
at Mania, the women's three way, it's Gabe, Kid and Kenny.
I think those are like my four like contenders right now.
And I don't actually have like a number one. I
maybe give like a slight edge to Kenny and Gabe
right now, but I need to rewatch that. The opener
for forty one Night two, like EO and BEG. Yeah,
that match was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't know, I was just thinking, aw.
Speaker 1: And I was like, which, oh yeah, no, no, no,
I got so no, I got so right. Now I
got two aw's, one New Japan and WW and I
think I actually think I have I don't think i'll
reach that now. I did have Punk and rawlins from
the Netflix thing, but I don't think that is now.
I think I've seen better once and then the other
one I got to go back is Samy and punk
was this year right from raw that was really good.
Same thing. It's been my contention, but so hey man,
he wins, it wins the owen. You know, you talk
about your king, John Loxley, What do you think's happened
all on? Do you think what? Do you think they're
gonna draw up it to hay Man or do you
think the AW crowd is gonna be heartbroken? Because I've
said this in the discord, I'll say this before you go.
I think AW it's not the peak. The peak of
AW is when Omega was champ to I'll literally say
brawl out. When brawl happened, there was a shift in
the product. But until then I was like hang Man,
or it was like Omega Hangman Punk. You got Punk
MGF by twenty twenty one, twenty two, that was on fire. Aw,
I don't think it's that hype, but I actually think
it's like the second Era right now, it's doing good.
They got some great TV. The pay review has been great.
Other than the def right stuff's been hanging it down.
But I've said, if Hayman lose it all in, it's
gonna be one of the darkest periods since browl In
and all that stuff, because man, it's uh I think
that's really playing with the fans hard Asprey's a different case.
If he were to lose, Hayman's like a he's an
og It's ham Bucks, Omega and Cody. Like, to me,
that's those are the real like Founding Fathers. So what
do you think is gonna happen at all in now
with Hangman in Moxley?
Speaker 3: I think I do think Hangan is probably gonna win,
even though I want to win.
Speaker 2: Just gonna be funny.
Speaker 3: Don't put that on us, But uh, yeah, I do
think he's gonna win. I mean, I can see this
the story and everything. I do wonder if it's gonna
be like the actual end of the Death Riders there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like Hayman could win without
it being like like I feel like they would just
do another Hangman Mox match, like and that would be
like the actual end of it. I feel like there's
still like one more in there. Like I agree, like
because I think, like, what are like, where would the
rest of the Death Riders be on this card? Like,
do you think they would all lose?
Speaker 1: It's tough because I think they do rules type of
ending the match. Yeah, yeah, saying if they do like
a blood right Line rules have ending, they could not
be on the card because now they don't have those
trios titles, so those are gone. I don't think Mina
Shakir is wrestling, so I think, and I think that's
also what Brian's I.
Speaker 3: Think you just like combined like Rihenair and Minashar card
just like into one I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, yeah, I don't think Death Riders. That's the
why why I think we're gonna get the Bloodline rules
ending is because I think that's what Brian's going to
be doing at all. In they always say I'll be there,
but I don't know what I'm doing. I think he's
going to be the Undertaker or Sina. He's gonna be
one of the last feel to come out, and it's
not so much to help hang Man, but it's to
screw over the Death Riders. I don't mean, I don't
I don't even think it's like tak her, Like I
don't think that should mean Brian has to be back back.
But I think that's a bow tie. Like they tried
to fucking murder this man on TV. It's like the
least he can do is cost mocks to the title.
And that's where you get the Derby return because I
think what you do then and the writers.
Speaker 3: A sting, sting return.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get the sting return with Darby, Yeah
you could, And that's where I think the Death Riders
won't be done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have like say, like death Ryers start coming
out and like say, it's like Uda and Claudio and
like stinging Derby beat them up, and then it's just
like mos.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, well all right, Becaus Willows in the story. Yeah,
so you can have her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's down and then I don't know, like Mox
like hits the ref or something and then it's like, oh,
like everyone's gone with the ref is still down and
then yeah comes up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's pretty much what's gonna happen, and
that's where it's that's up to I agree that the
Death Riders will.
Speaker 3: Be done and Osprey comes out, turns heel.
Speaker 1: On with Swerve and they just beat him up. Yeah,
that's where they won't end because I feel like the
story they can still do Moxley and Derby and have
Darby win them with no title like that can still
be the story of those two that he has to
beat them, And I think that's where you start the
end the Deaf writers. And then you can also have
like not that I want this, but you have the
in fighting. You can finally have you to Turn, or
you can have Moxley and Claudio and like Moxley can
be busy, like I don't know, just go give Moxley
a longer break again. He never got that. So but yeah,
I think came in wins here, and to me, I
think it's the thing that I think AW is consciously
knowing that they have some of their people, like hardcore
fans kind of like myself, very happy at the end.
Other than some aspects. You can't ever be perfect for
the most part. But if Hanging loses, it's over. So
I think they know that. I think Swerve and Osprey
is a good like here, just have two people put
on a good match type of thing and they are
We have a storyline right of oustar he wants some
to help and he doesn't. So there's a story right there.
Design some stuff I still don't know. I was exactly
with David Spott ftrvest Day at Garcia Nigel. I love that.
I gave it like a four. I it was way
better than I thought. This was like old school Black
and Gold FTR. It was a great brawl and there's
one point where they just they took out Nigel. Then
the last five minutes this is them beating up Garcia
and then Garcia loses. It's a perfect just like it's
like a two v one situation where it's like, what's
it gonna do and they just beat him up. Still
don't know if the plan is edging Christian. I don't
know how. I really don't. Christian is posting like meme
photos of him watching aw by a fireplace, like I
don't see the line. Christians still a piece of shit.
I don't know where it is and I don't I know.
Some people, Oh maybe it's gonna be edging somebody else
like that. To me, it doesn't work either, like you,
So I don't know. I think it's actually a chance
that match doesn't happen at all, and maybe if it's
something like it could be some amalgamation like a six man,
but I could see it not happening. I just I
really don't know. But maybe watch next week they'll attack
Christian and it's all changed. But that was really good. Uh,
Ricochet versus Mark Briscol I didn't like as much as David.
I think that could have been on collision or dynamite,
but it was an interesting match with a stretcher match.
The first like ten minutes is like comedy where Mark
Briscol is like shining Ricochet's head with like cleaner and
like they're making ball jokes. And then the next half
is like Mark Briscoll's bleeding everywhere because he bustle with
the scissors and it's super serious. So still good. I
was like at three point five Kurt Synecate versus the
Sons of Texas, they beat them for the titles. I
guess we're leading to MGF versus Bobby at all in
such a fucking random, such a random, no he's wrestling Bobby.
I think he's the rest of Bobby. I just it's
so random. But I just wonder he is MGF waning
to go to the baby or is he gonna go
to Hollywood because he's a lot in that fucking happy
Gilmore trailer. But you know what, I'll say, I've turned
the corner on this a little bit. I didn't I
still don't understand it. Before I didn't like it. There's
been some comedy stuff that has got me. MGFF is
like good at playing that like chicken shit, like smarmy heel,
but you kind of like him. He's back to being
a baby face pretty much again and actually like him
and Bobbie Bobby arguing the match, and then Bobby eventually's like,
oh yeah, like I do, like you know, like hug
like it kind of worked like still for me. MJFF,
like his all matches against Bobby is very odd, like
that's I really don't know what. Maybe the turn won't happen,
that's soon, I don't know. But it was fine. Tony's
storm versus Mino was really good. It was as good
as what I wanted. Their first match, their first match
was maybe it's just too Mariah may like lowre heavy,
and it was just like all looking at her like
and with a kiss.
Speaker 3: Sort of like the time, like timeless Tony Storm for
a while.
Speaker 1: Was just like not that good Arry comedy driven.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, it took like a while for her to
like start doing because it was very much like the
gimmick she was doing, like as if she was a
wrestler from like the ninth She's.
Speaker 1: Like the strong woman's stuff. But now you can tell
it's like she still does some of that, but it's
like twenty five seventy five percent, where like you said before,
it was like fifty or seventy five, So you're probably right.
I forgot that there was Eric because I remember, like
Dave and Bran like from Observer, We're like, she's not
gonna have good matches, so she wrestling, this is gonna
be shit. But yes, I agree with you, that's probably
exactly what it is where now she's wrestling wrestling. Forgot
to mention, I gotta watch it again. I haven't ranked
it on Dropkick because I had people over at the
start of it, but Monet and Hater really good match.
I think it's like at least of four they had
really good chemistry. But I think Mone's just in her
fucking groove. She's just having great matches with everybody but Hater. Again,
it's much like Statlander, where it's like she does the
power game. So they did it really well again, Ready
for Hater to go the w people saw like you
talked about the discord. I was so excited she's coming up, Like, man,
they're giving her promoson this is great nah fade a
black Cat's attack, like, oh my god, she's becoming. But
Cody was near the end of his run where every
time there'd be a returning person or a debut, they'd
go through Cody. I remember back then, this is where
hindsight's you know, best to have because I thought that
was Cody's like choice, and I was like, fuck, he's
gonna stop too, Like I hate this. I like, I
always felt like Cody's making himself work with the new
hot thing, and then after he left a He's like, yeah,
that was not my idea, that was Tony's. So that's
where I'm like, again, I think the problem with Hater.
Have said this before she got organic or she got
over organically last time, not because she was pushed, so
I think Tony doesn't know how to recreate that, but
she's still over. When she comes on the National Money,
she gets a big pops. I just I don't know,
and I don't get me wrong. I get why they're
doing Monett and uh Tony. They gotta sell those tickets.
I think right now they're just in like fifteen k
so honestly much smaller than the UK shows, but still
good show. It's gonna be one of their bigger gates.
But still I get they're gonna push tickets.
Speaker 3: Baseball, yes, even do all all four.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, so you want to push it, so like,
I get why you're doing that. I still personally would
have preferred Hater and Tony with Hater flipping the heel
and then Athena and Mercedes too, because that was a
really great match.
Speaker 3: But we're doing this Scena returning to ro oh this
week and.
Speaker 1: Not see the video great, which yeah, so I would
prefer that.
Speaker 3: Like this is the most stat padded title reign since cont.
Speaker 1: It's very over, like some of Bronx stuff too, where
Brock would just disappear for months. But yeah, it's it's
interesting and I do think we'll do a prediction show obviously,
but I do think Tony's gonna lose, And I don't
know if I love the idea of Monette having both
of those unless it's like for a very short couple
months and then, like I said, like Willow beats or something.
But because now what usually aw has been, they've been
doing a bit better. Women have been made eventing, We've
had multiple dynamites now with two women's matches. But like Fallen,
what do you think they're gonna do for a second
woms match? Because you always it was okay World Time
TBS title. If mo name's busy, it's like, I don't
know what they're gonna do. I guess you do like
Athena and Thunder. But again I'll say this whole time,
I don't care about I don't I don't care about
the state of r O H right now. So it's
like that.
Speaker 3: They tweet him out all in. No, he was like
two years ago. I was all in as a fan.
This year, I'm wrestling at all in just like last year.
Note didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot the print? Yeah I forgot about that.
Hey again, I always say the bill up was great.
Match was not so much. But yeah, so I I guess, yeah,
I just R O H. But I really don't want that,
especially because like Athena is not on to.
Speaker 3: You that women. Maybe you're just like the women's tag titles.
You introduce them and that'll be like you do the
Hannah Jay and Harley Cameron versus the.
Speaker 1: Penelope for it which also was it was that was
a really on good weapons match this week, and Mega
Bain has, like I didn't know much about her, she
has made me a fan every time she's on screench
as a presence and she brings it that or here's
my pitch, my pitches, do number of contenders gauntlet, Yeah,
do the galllet get a bunch of women on the show,
get a hater, get the talk Spider Lady.
Speaker 3: Big debut, or something.
Speaker 1: Exactly like that. To me feels way more just than
the R O H Athena. If they want to do
the tag titles, that's fine, before that again built up
the roster. I like that more than Athena, who's barely
on aw TV and then is.
Speaker 3: Not gonna be like they have an RH pay per
view that weekend. I'm okay, sure so that that week
so that's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Have Athena, you know, be in the gallet. But that's
my pitches. Yeah, do the Gauntlet and I think that
would be tons of fun and then you got money
right away. Make Willow when that they.
Speaker 3: Did do the Gauntlet, Yeah, they did one before for
the women they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't remember who Tony Storm won it.
That was that she was in like the Right, which
she was. Yeah that the Right and the Shoe was
their first title shot. Okay, so yeah, that that's my
watching them. Marian May comes back in the Gauntlet and
I was like, oh my god, but no, that's my pitch.
But no, all in it could be shaved up. But
there's there's it's I think the matches that are rumored
or set right now are very good. So the top
level stuff is good. Is a lot of the undercard
that I don't think I'm worried about just now.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay if and also like if you do MJF.
And lastly, yeah, like like who who are the hurt
said losing the titles too? Or are they just champions
just don't defend? Because I feel I think it's in
w with like the tag titles. I feel like that
is an important part. Like, yeah, unless they just like lose,
unless they just like drop the FTR before then or
something like.
Speaker 1: That, they could, and I just they have time, but
it's not that far away the pay per view, so
like to do like a drop.
Speaker 3: The title four hour Dynamite this week.
Speaker 1: That's true, And I know multiple people have said that
they're trying to make that show really big, so maybe
there will be some very big developments on there. So
that's a good point that maybe they can do some
stuff there. And yeah, maybe it's a thing where they
lose the titles FTR and Jeff accidentally screwed them or
did screw them, Like I don't know what it's gonna
be or it's kind of up in the air, but yeah,
you're right, they probably want those take titles and I
could see At the same time, though, I think that
might be a multi man because if they're not doing
Swerve and Hangman versus the Bucks, what are the Bucks
doing all in? You know, like Kenny's busy, he's got whatever.
Speaker 3: Also, when when is all out this year? It's not
right after all.
Speaker 1: I think it's a that's fine. I think it's a
few weeks after they're getting better with because I was
thinking September twentieth, so yeah, it's it's a few because
when is all in July though?
Speaker 3: Actually right, yeah, because it's now for between.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're right, Yeah, okay, so that's a few
months away.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because I was thinking maybe what it's like
because because we're MG an FTR like in a faction before. Yeah,
people are always on. Like MJF said something about like
in promos with like Hurts he said something about being
like the pinnacle of wrestling or something like that. Like
I feel like, what if they do like a six
man of like MJF and FTR against like all three
of the hurts with like m VP even wrestling even
then at like all I was thinking, like if all
Out is next, like you do the six man and
then you do like FTR versus like lastly and uh
like for the tag tiles, right, no sequence of that.
Speaker 1: I think we're partially right, but I think I forgot
why people have changed your mind. I forgot all Out
is in Toronto and that's the Christian spot, and that
to me feels.
Speaker 3: Way more to the Christian persons. The last Lee and
shing Benjamin, Well, it.
Speaker 1: Could be that or FTR whatever it is, Like, I
think that like to me, if you say age and
Christian can get to get by September, tons of time
July not.
Speaker 3: So much.
Speaker 1: By then, yeah, I think so. Yeah, And but yeah,
it'll be interesting if they do the pin because they've
seen that theory. But when Dax used to have a podcast,
he like, I don't think it was work, but he
kind of let it know that like that they it
didn't sound like him and MGF got along because it
sound like the pitch was to be a group, but
then he like they all kind of felt like it
was just like a group to prop up MGF like
they took it us like, oh, we're gonna do four Horsemen,
but then as it went along like a yes, yes,
and he was And then I think he brought that
up to Tony and m Jeff kind of sound like
there was some heap of maybe that's years later, so
we'll see, but yeah, that's where something like young Bucks too.
I could see my my, I don't know if it's
gonna happen, but I could also see walk with me now,
a baby face turn. I could see in the Bloodlines
rules match, when they come down and you think they're
gonna help Mocksley, that they turn and they help hang Man.
Because when Hangman won the title the first time, they
were with Omega and they were gonna interfere on Omega's behalf,
but they didn't. They walked away and let hang Men win.
So I could see and honestly, that would be a
big pop moment. And that's some like Bolt Club Elite
lore where they you know, in the moment they finally
see them their friend and they go we're gonna We're
gonna help them and then boom. And that's what the
Reft Friders could do for a little bit too. They
could fight the Bucks, right, So I.
Speaker 3: Was thinking they should just do like like Hobbs and
Willow versus the Bucks as a man.
Speaker 1: Oh that's one thing. Yeah, that's what I don't think
you forgot to mention. I love that at the first
few times the men hit the women, they made this
big deal, and then three minutes later they were just
wrestling like it was the intergener match. And I love that,
like Willow Tombstone one of the Bucks, like it's fantastic,
Like I would love that even if it was like
if you had Mina in there too, and you did that,
ran that back.
Speaker 3: But last year they did a mixed tag team medal
in but it was on the pre show. It was
it was a stat Lander and Stokely versus Willow and
is she right?
Speaker 1: ECHI right, yeah, so yeah, we'll see. So, like I said, well,
that's the top That's what I'm at least excited about.
Speaker 3: It's an all in match. He always just shows up and.
Speaker 1: The woman's gauntlt just having fucking just bumping everybody around.
Put hater versus fucking Echy. Let's let's do it. But no,
so that's why right now all in I'm excited because
the top cards looking good. Just the bottom card that's
not looking bad.
Speaker 3: Just a lot of like questions that's just like undecided,
Like I think there's still a lot like it happening. Yeah,
so you never know how many matches are.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, that show's gonna have
fifteen sixteen matches and it's gonna go eight hours. So
hence why we're not doing the gimmick on the Saturday,
even if it's in the afternoon. Like you said, fucking
all in could be going till one am Saturday's Man
then will be over and all in will still be happening,
but uh yeah, we'll see. But yeah, like I said,
the next episode will be the predictions of Evolute. Hopefully
we get some cards to matches soon we'll have the
or sorry, no I was wrong. Next week will be
Money the Bank and then after Predictions, so yeah, money
Bank will be fun time. We'll get some new draft points,
see what happens. We've got Dave's full thoughts on some stuff,
and yeah, we'll be back next week for Money in
the Bank on the Sunday time to be the just
look out on the social media's and yeah we'll be
back then, thank you for listening. Next week we'll be
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