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<v Speaker 1>We got another bonus episode for you. Let you hear

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from some of the folks that we've

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<v Speaker 1>Media Days, some stuff we just haven't had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to put in any other podcast speeds. Well, we have

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<v Speaker 1>lots of great stuff for you all week long. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you some bonus coverage to let you hear

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<v Speaker 1>from as many people as we possibly can. This week

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<v Speaker 1>today's show, you're gonna get to hear from a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit from USC head coach Lincoln Riley. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big year for Lincoln Riley. Things have not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>gone as well or as quickly as he might have

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<v Speaker 1>liked in his new job at USC, which is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer a new job at USC, But you get the vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna get to hear from him. You get

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe that he thinks things might be on the

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<v Speaker 1>upsling there for a whole lot of different reasons. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into sort of the big picture stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with USC, gonna drill down a little bit on the

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio state specific stuff. There were just a couple questions

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<v Speaker 1>about Ohio state. I'm gonna let you hear those first

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can get into some of the broader stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are going up against Ohio State this ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The Buckeyes visit the coliseum out in LA on Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>this year. We don't have a game time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is probably safe to say that's likely going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a late afternoon game or potentially even early evening

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<v Speaker 1>game out there in La. So a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a personal history there as well between Lincoln Riley and

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<v Speaker 1>the Buckeyes and a very very big game on tap

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<v Speaker 1>for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, I you know, we competed against them

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<v Speaker 3>two of the years at OU my last year's OC

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<v Speaker 3>and then my actually my second game as a head

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<v Speaker 2>That was a fun one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we can recreate that a little bit more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of respect for the program obviously, coach you

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<v Speaker 3>know Meyer was there at that time, and then Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>took over. I remember I was having a few discussions

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<v Speaker 3>when he took over, because, like you said, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of parallels between his situation at Ohio State

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<v Speaker 3>and mine at Oklahoma at the time. But no, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the best programs of all time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they've they've invested in that program, They've had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of great coaches. You know, their talent level seems to

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<v Speaker 3>just stay. It's one of the steadiest.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Talent levels a year in our sport, you know, great

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<v Speaker 3>place to go play, I mean, it's it's yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've utmost respect for it, and I'm glad, yeah, glad

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<v Speaker 3>we probably finally get to play them. It's it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a while. We've gotten to play some of the others,

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<v Speaker 3>like Michigan a couple of times and all that, and

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<v Speaker 3>so it'll be fun, you know, them being at the Coliseum,

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<v Speaker 3>two of the best programs of all time going at it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean at that venue.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's that's it's pretty damn cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't necessarily think of a team from Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>a team from California being real longtime rivals, But the

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeyes and Trojans have played twenty four times already, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those happening in the Rose Bowl Game. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very very traditional rivalry between these two schools.

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<v Speaker 2>The two schools, two programs, These.

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<v Speaker 1>Are two programs that played a lot of very high profile,

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<v Speaker 1>high stakes games over the years, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Day. So this now as Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>Conference rivals, this is the first time these two teams

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<v Speaker 1>the rivalry, a little bit of a renewal of the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Gerdaman asked him about sort of is this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of starting a new tradition usc playing Michigan previously previously

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<v Speaker 1>and now Ohio State, sort of taking the old rivalry

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<v Speaker 1>and renewing it in a new place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's some ways a renewal with some of the

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<v Speaker 3>I think, uh, you know, and and and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a renewal and a start at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>like this this one's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a little bit of juice behind it. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just those two, those two whether it's at the

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<v Speaker 3>Big House or at the coliseum, those two programs walk

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<v Speaker 3>onto the field and those two helmets walk on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, damn, you know, like this is this is real,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's it's pretty cool. And I think everybody you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of feels that. So I think we'll have that

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<v Speaker 3>with several teams in the Big Ten, and obviously Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>State's you know, a natural one because of the histories

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<v Speaker 3>of both schools individually and together.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, let's go to some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that Lincoln Riley had to say, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting soundbites. You're gonning to hear a bunch from

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<v Speaker 1>him about a whole bunch of different topics. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things was the twenty four team college football playoff model. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to be cynical and look at Lincoln Riley

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<v Speaker 1>and go, well, yes, the guy who has just barely

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<v Speaker 1>missed the college football Playoff and who probably really desperately

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<v Speaker 1>needs to make the college football Playoff. Yes, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's in favor of letting more teams in the college

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<v Speaker 1>football Playoff. But as you will hear him say here,

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<v Speaker 1>he is definitely not the only one in the Big

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually, you know, when you get a room of

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<v Speaker 2>fifty coaches or whatever we have in this conference together, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to get everybody to be like unanimous on something.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that our room has been unanimous on,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think, you know, the Big ten has done

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<v Speaker 3>a nice job of putting some facts in front of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think for everybody out there that's maybe undecided

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<v Speaker 3>a playoff like and I know they put this out there,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, look at every other major sport, right and

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<v Speaker 3>look at the percentage of teams that have access, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to a playoff, and and I think it's it's an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting lens to look at this at And I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, college football is behind in that regard, like

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<v Speaker 3>in any way, shape or form, and you're seeing some

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<v Speaker 3>of the repercussions of that, especially the non conference scheduling

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<v Speaker 3>being certainly the biggest, but I think there's others as well,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I just think this is something that's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to diminish the game, and in any way, having

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<v Speaker 3>more teams in a tournament to determine a champion is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to make it worse. You're gonna have more

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<v Speaker 3>playoff games on college campuses, which are unbelievable. You're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have better non conference matchups which preserve some of

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<v Speaker 3>time that that, you know, it should be the idea

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<v Speaker 1>There is, of course, a trade off to everything. You

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<v Speaker 1>get twenty four teams, you get more playoff teams, you

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<v Speaker 1>get more playoff games. Sure, if you want that, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but that means you're probably doing away with the conference

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<v Speaker 1>championship games. That was something that Tony Petiti, the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ten commissioner, talked about on Tuesday here. So is that

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<v Speaker 1>worth it? Is that a financially worth it trade off

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<v Speaker 1>to potentially give away the conference championship games no longer

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<v Speaker 1>have those in favor of bringing in all the other

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<v Speaker 1>college football playoff games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's definitely one of the discussions.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you lose, potentially lose the conference championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously those are huge revenue drivers right now

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<v Speaker 3>for these conferences, which matters in this day and age right,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit more than it used to.

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<v Speaker 2>But to think.

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<v Speaker 3>That that could not be made up when you start

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<v Speaker 3>to add in some of these playoff games. I know

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<v Speaker 3>there's some mechanisms and that's easier than just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a hard time believing that that couldn't be recruited,

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<v Speaker 3>that these conferences can't just decide who the regular season

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<v Speaker 3>champion is, you know, have your tiebreaker structure or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and then let's get into the playoffs. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I think when that happens, I think it'll become,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in some ways, like a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>like the NFL, right. I mean, people pay attention of

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<v Speaker 3>who wins you know, the AFC this or the NFC this,

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<v Speaker 3>but people really just pay attention to who wins the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl, right, who wins the big conference?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? And I think we'll probably trend that way a

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<v Speaker 1>This is definitely a year when USC needs to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. They need to get over the hump for

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Riley's long term job security. Obviously, getting to a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four team playoff would help him get into the playoff,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not going to happen this year, so they

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<v Speaker 1>got to kind of figure that out on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the what do they have to do well.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hear him talk about they got to win

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. They gotta beat some good teams on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Here's the road schedule this year. They play

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<v Speaker 1>at Rutgers, you figure they're probably okay. They're at Penn State,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a challenge, at Wisconsin, who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be this year, at Indiana that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a challenge. And then they finish at UCLA,

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<v Speaker 1>which that could be a tougher game than you think

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<v Speaker 1>in the first year for Bob Chesney. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>they have to do to get where they need to

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<v Speaker 1>beat this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the biggest areas that that that we

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<v Speaker 3>have to improve, you know, I would say, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I think holistically as a team for us, the biggest thing,

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<v Speaker 3>the number one thing for us is the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>go win big games against really good teams on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the hardest thing to do in college football.

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<v Speaker 3>That's those games are actually easier to win or harder

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<v Speaker 3>to win than championship games or playoff games. You know

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<v Speaker 3>those are you're still playing good teams there, but those

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<v Speaker 3>are neutral. It's the toughest thing to do in college football.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you can do that consistently, you can beat anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think that's we've we've we've come

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<v Speaker 3>of the coliseums has gotten better and better each year.

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<v Speaker 3>And you really fit Al did a lot last year.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's kind of the next step for us, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big step, and we obviously have some great

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was asked about nil the transfer portal, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the changes in college football, maybe bringing some changes to

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question because there's a lot of parody

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<v Speaker 3>right now, like there really is. I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different reasons. I've never been afraid to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, you know, ten years ago, there was

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<v Speaker 3>increasing it more. But there's so much more right now

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of these questions that coaches tend to

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of player player salaries or player income, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And he will say the word salary cap here, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not putting words in this word to say,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it probably depends on your you know, your own

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<v Speaker 2>I just h I've always been one like I just

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<v Speaker 3>Than what somebody has, but I don't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 2>Has normalized a lot in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let's not confuse that with being normal, but it

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<v Speaker 3>so much crazy stuff going on. Like there's still some,

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<v Speaker 3>but it ain't like a couple of years ago this

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years ago it was like legit. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's it has steadied. A true salary cap would steady

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that you will learn at these

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because if you go out there and say

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be the best team ever and then you're not, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have sort of set yourself up for failure.

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Riley, he was pretty confident about how things are

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<v Speaker 1>looking for this year's team. He was asked to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you're going to hear him talk about his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen Oklahoma team. That was a team that had Jalen Hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>the former Auburn or Alabama quarterback transfer. That team made

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot about what he thinks. So here was

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know there there's definitely there's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>some parts of this team that kind of remind me

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<v Speaker 3>we when we had we had an experienced quarterback, it

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<v Speaker 3>was Jalen coming at the time. That was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely one of the best defenses that we had there.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a really good defense that year. Defensively kind

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<v Speaker 3>of won a budd We won games a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>different ways that year. And this team, again, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's right here into July beginning of August, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's going to have that capability.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that we're going to have some firepower on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides, and I think I'm most interested to see

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, our our lines of scrimmage, especially on

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty football team last year. We were just very different.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you look at us early season, mid season,

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<v Speaker 3>and late season, it's almost especially from like early mid

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<v Speaker 3>to mid late we were almost like two different football teams,

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<v Speaker 3>like in a lot of ways. And when you get

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<v Speaker 3>really good, that's not necessarily the case. Right, Injury, this

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<v Speaker 3>or that happens, you're able that next guy's up and

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<v Speaker 3>you just hardly even notice, right, And that's that's what

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<v Speaker 3>you got to get to, especially with as long as

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<v Speaker 3>these seasons are now and how long the playoffs are, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>like Indiana's last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you might have that one kind of generational.

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<v Speaker 3>Year where you're just radically stay healthy and that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>That typically does not happen, and I think how your

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<v Speaker 3>roster is able to withstand that is like that's everything,

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<v Speaker 3>And I you know, obviously I've sit up here hoping

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<v Speaker 3>we stay healthy like crazy, but I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally he was asked about his just level

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence around the program on the whole, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear him talk about it. There's a lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels pretty good about his program right now. Here

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<v Speaker 1>or mentioned a new building. They just opened a new

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<v Speaker 1>the he feels pretty confident about his roster, feels pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about his program on the whole. This is a college,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a coach who feels pretty good heading into

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just a it's a culmination of all

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's a culmination of knowing that our our

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<v Speaker 3>leadership is steady. It's a culminator. It's knowing that our

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<v Speaker 3>nil is in a good place. It's knowing that we

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<v Speaker 3>now reside in maybe the best football facility in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>It's knowing the staff we brought together and the talent

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<v Speaker 3>we have. And like I did, it's not I want

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<v Speaker 3>to paint this picture like it's perfect, but like it

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<v Speaker 3>is just so much more well equipped to win consistently

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<v Speaker 3>right now. It's so it's so different, and that just

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<v Speaker 3>so with that, a lot of my time and energy

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<v Speaker 3>now goes into just the team winning. And that's again,

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<v Speaker 3>just like I said before, we're all a product of

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it's felt like, like.

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<v Speaker 3>The main thing was the main thing, and everything else

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of handled. Like you ain't worried about all

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<v Speaker 3>this other crap, right, You're just it's not crap.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have it to win. And if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not fixed, you have to fix it. You can.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ignore it, you know you'll probably have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll have something. There were some things ignored at this

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<v Speaker 3>place for years. I mean that's why I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the position it was when we came here. Like when

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<v Speaker 3>you ignore it and neglect it, it'll bite you. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you can get it to a point where it's

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<v Speaker 3>can just put all your energy into the team and

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<v Speaker 3>winning and coaching. And right now, if you if somebody

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<v Speaker 3>my time and where it's going, there's more time just

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<v Speaker 3>going into our team and coaching than at any point

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<v Speaker 3>that I've been at SC and by a not a

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<v Speaker 1>So you go a little bit from Lincoln Riley about

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<v Speaker 1>the US Trojans again. Ohio State will play out in

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<v Speaker 1>USC play out at the Coliseum on Halloween this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That is going to be a very very big game

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<v Speaker 1>for both teams, two teams expected to compete for college

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<v Speaker 1>football playoff. For US, that game will probably go a

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<v Speaker 1>they both get there. So there you go, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little update from Lincoln Raleigh. We will have much more

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<v Speaker 1>coming up all week long from Big Ten media Days,

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<v Speaker 1>planning plenty of bonus coverage for you as well.
