Speaker 1: Oh bed of that are hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 1: Cage to Night. I'm Ravenly and today we are going
Speaker 1: to pick up where we left off with our Epstein file,
Speaker 1: expose all the things in all all this stuff just
Speaker 1: work clear right, just so we all are on the
Speaker 1: same page with where we just came from. On that
Speaker 1: first episode that we did, right, we discussed Wayfair, Prince
Speaker 1: Andrew Elon, Musk, Bill Gates, Howard Lutnick, Steve Bannon. All
Speaker 1: these people are massive shittheads. And I mean Wayfair as
Speaker 1: a company, but they are also massive shittheads as a
Speaker 1: as a whole, as a collective. So anyway, all these things,
Speaker 1: and before we move any further, I gotta ask you, Raven,
Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about in that first episode,
Speaker 1: did anything shock you or was this more like a
Speaker 1: confirmation of like, yup, knew I couldn't trust that fuck
Speaker 1: Like where are you at?
Speaker 2: Nope, I'm pretty much everything. I already made assumptions. I
Speaker 2: didn't actually hear the interview though, so that was interesting
Speaker 2: to get to hear the clips of that I had
Speaker 2: heard through the grape vine. I saw like little clips
Speaker 2: of everyone talking about it, but I actually didn't hear
Speaker 2: any of that, so that was interesting to hear. I
Speaker 2: didn't even know that's what he said, I don't like
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, which Epstein and I found
Speaker 2: out to be really a weird situation. It was like,
Speaker 2: we're really good friends, but we super hate each other
Speaker 2: and it's like a pissing contest, and it was like
Speaker 2: the whole interview was very strange, and it was it
Speaker 2: just come. It just confirmed that Epstein is one hundred
Speaker 2: percent egotistical maniac, like he definitely believes that he is
Speaker 2: the smartt human being.
Speaker 1: And we still have no idea why the interview was
Speaker 1: being conducted. Steve Bannon had no intentions of making a documentary,
Speaker 1: even though like it was kind of centered in that
Speaker 1: way it seemed like it was documentary esque. He had
Speaker 1: no intentions of releasing a documentary about Epstein even before
Speaker 1: any of the shit went down, so like it was
Speaker 1: a weird.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was weird, to be honest, but they're
Speaker 2: weird fucking people though, so like at this point, apparently
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw they some new photos
Speaker 2: were dropped and one of them was Epstein was using
Speaker 2: my magnifying glass and was burning one of the boy
Speaker 2: victims outside. He was like staked to the ground and
Speaker 2: he was burning him in multiple spots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 3: One, and they're starting to release more.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw one with the little girl taped to
Speaker 1: a table and she was smiling cut to the videos
Speaker 1: Gate well you know, yeah, but half of her face
Speaker 1: was like burned off and all that, And somehow that
Speaker 1: picture is coming up hardcore with the whole Epstein conversation too, which.
Speaker 2: With some of the pizza Gate photos are coming back
Speaker 2: around and they're being obviously tied into Epstein and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I mean the pizza Gate conversation. What's
Speaker 2: interesting is John Podesta had had or has potentially U
Speaker 2: talk account and an Instagram account and apparently has been
Speaker 2: posting all sorts of weird things to it over the years.
Speaker 3: Now, I did ask.
Speaker 2: I reached out to a couple of the big content
Speaker 2: creators that did make things about them and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Hey, where is his app?
Speaker 2: Because I went deep diving, I was like, look, we're
Speaker 2: going to find this, and so I was trying to
Speaker 2: actually find his account. So far, i've come up empty handed.
Speaker 2: So I'm hoping maybe somebody through the grapevine will share
Speaker 2: it so we.
Speaker 1: Will see drugged though especially by now.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, his name is getting obviously brought up
Speaker 2: and drug through the dirt and hopefully will be charged
Speaker 2: because people are really calling for his head.
Speaker 3: God has Love sent us a.
Speaker 2: DM about a content creator that is putting everything together
Speaker 2: in pretty much like a file in this app that
Speaker 2: he has, and that it will be easier to be
Speaker 2: able to get to the content that is really what
Speaker 2: you can use instead of sifting through the you know,
Speaker 2: millions of files and stuff. So I'm interested to check
Speaker 2: that out. Maybe we could actually get through it, because
Speaker 2: I mean I spent hours looking at stuff and like
Speaker 2: here's some of my papers and there's not I probably
Speaker 2: have forty pages printed out and I have about another
Speaker 2: one hundred screenshotted. And that was you know, days of
Speaker 2: going through clicking one on one by one, which, by
Speaker 2: the way, for those of you that haven't looked at these,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of interesting things about the dog files
Speaker 2: because the redactions are ridiculous. Yeah, because like page one
Speaker 2: has one has a paper, you know, an email that's
Speaker 2: redacted in twenty different places.
Speaker 3: Go to page ten.
Speaker 2: That email pops up again and you have like seven
Speaker 2: of those are missing off the redactions, so they're not
Speaker 2: redacted any longer. And it has like another random word
Speaker 2: and it's like you could put them together and figure
Speaker 2: out some of on not I wouldn't say all of
Speaker 2: the stuff, but some of the stuff.
Speaker 3: You can figure it out.
Speaker 1: This is Pam Bondi's Department of Justice. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It doesn't exactly work. It's like the TSA
Speaker 1: and Santa Claus. It works if you believe it's real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's pretty much what's going on with this
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, And I'm finding out as more people
Speaker 2: sift through stuff, I'm seeing like keywords here and there.
Speaker 2: So I'm going and trying to find my own information
Speaker 2: about it. And man, it's I know that you've been
Speaker 2: doing on your side of things, and I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2: The next episode is all going to be about about food. Yeah,
Speaker 2: about the keywords of food, the code words. So that's
Speaker 2: gonna be, yeah, the code words, the code words of food,
Speaker 2: And so that's gonna be an entire deep dive in
Speaker 2: and of itself. And I do believe I think we
Speaker 2: need to go back to Pizzagate and bring it all
Speaker 2: back in and have a whole wrap around and see
Speaker 2: where people are today that were involved. It's all you know,
Speaker 2: they're all they're all connected, they're all walking free. Still,
Speaker 2: they're all breathing the year, which they shouldn't be allowed
Speaker 2: to breathe.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Intioned to see interested to see what you brought to
Speaker 2: the table, because right now there's just so many things
Speaker 2: so happening on this episode.
Speaker 1: I've got a few more names. And granted, y'all, this
Speaker 1: is not all encompassing like we did on the first episode.
Speaker 1: We only brought up a few things tonight. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bring up a few things. We're gonna continue doing this
Speaker 1: until I guess, until we decide that we are done, honestly,
Speaker 1: because I don't believe that we could actually sift through
Speaker 1: three and a half million files to create Realistically, we
Speaker 1: could probably shoot an episode every day for a year
Speaker 1: on just what was released in these files and probably
Speaker 1: still not get through them all. So we're gonna bounce
Speaker 1: back and forth and honestly, whenever we have the time,
Speaker 1: whenever we don't have a guest lined up or whatever else.
Speaker 1: I don't see why we don't come back to the
Speaker 1: Epstein files and just release another one, just talk about
Speaker 1: some more shit. I don't see why not.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a heavy shit though, oh it is.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty heavy.
Speaker 2: And the latest word that I've been looking up today
Speaker 2: tonight actually is yeah. They they really are some special
Speaker 2: human beings that you know, deserve to be skinned Tolivee
Speaker 2: the worst.
Speaker 3: They deserve the worst, and they they deserve the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially once you realize what they're talking about, and
Speaker 2: it makes you feel like you're crazy because you're reading
Speaker 2: these things. And at first, on surface level, it seems,
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal, nothing whatever. But once she
Speaker 2: realized what that one word actually means, then it's a
Speaker 2: whole nother ballgame of what they're actually talking about.
Speaker 3: And it just makes my stomach curl.
Speaker 1: And just that it's a mix of all the negative emotions, honestly,
Speaker 1: and so with tonight's episode, and not just this episod so,
Speaker 1: but all of the things with Epstein moving forward. Please understand,
Speaker 1: this seems to be the big thing that everybody, well,
Speaker 1: I broke off ties with him in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: I broke off ties with him in twenty twelve. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, all lies, all lies, Okay, But there
Speaker 1: is at least a little bit of leeway that you
Speaker 1: can give somebody pre two thousand and eight, and it
Speaker 1: depends on the circumstances. What I mean by this is,
Speaker 1: let's say Epstein was a financier type dude in the
Speaker 1: mid nineties, but he and his ILK weren't very well
Speaker 1: known about in the top dog elite circles. Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was questioned some people knew some things, but unless
Speaker 1: you were somebody who knew who he was, you didn't
Speaker 1: know about it. Right. Two thousand and eight is when
Speaker 1: he was convicted, So nobody can make the excuse of, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Bup Bup up past two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: There's a And honestly, I don't believe that they could
Speaker 1: make that excuse even on back to the eighties.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that either.
Speaker 2: I think that from late seventies and the way that
Speaker 2: he got into everything, and really the beginning eighties, I
Speaker 2: just don't personally feel like the people can once he
Speaker 2: made his way into that company, that he did all
Speaker 2: that shady business with that was tied to Blackrock, right,
Speaker 2: and he got away with that. I personally don't think
Speaker 2: that there is anybody in the elite upper echelon that
Speaker 2: didn't know who this person was.
Speaker 1: No, no, I I agree. But let's say it was
Speaker 1: like some guy who just came into money, one of
Speaker 1: these new money type guys, and it was two thousand
Speaker 1: and three, so he didn't know where the shittheads hanged.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing. You could give a little bit of
Speaker 1: some some leeway, and it's very a case, very case
Speaker 1: by case, very case by case from two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight onward. Nobody can say that they didn't know this
Speaker 1: about him because he was a confirmed convicted p file
Speaker 1: hard stop right. So when you hear these names that
Speaker 1: were going to be brought up today and when these
Speaker 1: dates were, these emails, all of these things, these people
Speaker 1: are not allowed to play the whole Oh well I
Speaker 1: didn't know that about him. Everyone knew that about him
Speaker 1: past that point.
Speaker 3: They have it is they have internet access.
Speaker 1: They do exactly.
Speaker 3: You can't say anything exactly. You could look his.
Speaker 2: Name up and you're not going to just start running
Speaker 2: with somebody and not look up who this is.
Speaker 1: Like for instance, Joe Rogan. Okay, let's have that talk
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 3: Rogan gets brought up into the Epstein files.
Speaker 1: They tried bringing him up except for the fact that Rogan,
Speaker 1: which I understand so many people, Oh Rogan's a CIA sud,
Speaker 1: He's a plant. But feel whatever way you want about
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan as far as his show is concerned, don't care.
Speaker 1: I personally like him. I personally am a fan of
Speaker 1: his show. Epstein tried making a connection to Rogan. Threw
Speaker 1: a guy who was on rogan show years ago who
Speaker 1: is a Epstein lackey for lack of better words, and
Speaker 1: Rogan basically in the matter of an afternoon was like, uh,
Speaker 1: this guy's a pedophile, Like, I'm not gonna go hang
Speaker 1: with him. And his body said, oh, come on, go
Speaker 1: have dinner with him, Come do this, come to this,
Speaker 1: and Rogan's like, no, I'm not so all good. That's
Speaker 1: the only time that that was brought up, but I did.
Speaker 1: My point is it took a quick Google search for
Speaker 1: somebody to be like, Huh, this Epstein guy's kind of
Speaker 1: a raging piece of shit. I don't need to be
Speaker 1: associated with him at all for you.
Speaker 3: Andrew Tate went with them.
Speaker 1: Oh I haven't. I haven't found Andrew Tate yet, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure. But anyway, all right, so I
Speaker 1: just want to give that credence. Also because some people
Speaker 1: are going to bring up Rogan's name because like, well,
Speaker 1: his name's in the file. His name is brought up
Speaker 1: one time in one email and the guy was talking
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein about how he's trying to get Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan to meet up but he doesn't want to. That
Speaker 1: was the entirety of the email. So it's not Rogan
Speaker 1: being brought up, if that makes sense. It's like third party.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Hi, y'all, let's get started with a big one, biggie,
Speaker 1: Oh Less Wexner. Have you ever heard of Victoria's Secret?
Speaker 3: Oh god, this guy's such a shithead he is, he
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Speaker 1: You know that song? I know Victoria's Secret. She was
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Speaker 1: I said, you may know him as the guy who
Speaker 1: built Victoria's Secret. That song I know Victoria's Secret. It's
Speaker 1: literally written about him. He's a raging piece of shit,
Speaker 1: always has been, always will being. In the late nineteen eighties,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein started posing as a talent scout for Victoria's Secret. Now,
Speaker 1: when I say this, I don't mean he was hired
Speaker 1: as a consultant for Victoria's Secret. I mean he and
Speaker 1: Less were homies. So Less pretty much gave him the
Speaker 1: pass and the credential to say that he was a
Speaker 1: talent scout and he really wasn't. And this went on,
Speaker 1: like I said, in the late eighties, this continued for
Speaker 1: years and years, all the way until nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: He had allegations brought on him later confirmed. I might
Speaker 1: add that Epstein lord a young model into a Santa
Speaker 1: Monica hotel where he assaulted her. It was so widely
Speaker 1: known that he was such a piece of shit that
Speaker 1: multiple Victorious Secret executives complained about his behavior. Less gave
Speaker 1: him a pass on all of it Wow, got morele Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: because why not? Right? So Wexner also facilitated the purchase
Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse right the Manhattan House where all
Speaker 1: those assaults took place, and his private yet the Lolita Express.
Speaker 1: Both of these purchases were made because of Les Wexner.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Most people don't. Most people don't see you have Victoria's
Speaker 1: secret guy is pretty much the only reason why Epstein
Speaker 1: had the Manhattan Spot or the Lolita Express. So there's that.
Speaker 3: I thought the Manhattan Spot was gifted to him by somebody.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a gift, although it was.
Speaker 3: It was by the by the billionaire that other guy.
Speaker 1: Basically, Wexner facilitated the purchase. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's the one that held it in escrow until the
Speaker 1: deal went through or whatever, or if he's the one that, like,
Speaker 1: as far as like the really weirch and wealthy are concerned,
Speaker 1: is like equivalent to a co signer. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, he's claiming right now as of three days ago
Speaker 2: and seventeen hours ago that Jeffrey Epstein sold hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars from him over the decades.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad that that was just brought up.
Speaker 1: So let's talk how about that. Let's raven Lee, Let's
Speaker 1: let's go there. Hundreds of millions was stolen?
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, yeah, I'm looking at the latest on
Speaker 3: what he's saying, so theft.
Speaker 1: Here's also the deal he claimed that he severed ties
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, whenever all the ugliness went
Speaker 1: down with Jeffrey Epstein. Never mind the fact that in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven he confirmed assaulted a would be model,
Speaker 1: and it was so well known from the late eighties
Speaker 1: all the way till two thousand and eight, when he
Speaker 1: was a talent scout with Victoria's secret that he was
Speaker 1: a raging piece of shit. Never mind all of that.
Speaker 1: He cut ties in O eight because he because he's
Speaker 1: such a bad guy. But okay, fine, f fine, how
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: He also told the police that quote Wexter never had
Speaker 2: any knowledge at all of an appropriate or unlawful activity
Speaker 2: with young women in Epstein absolute lies.
Speaker 1: But how about this, as you're talking about those hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions. According to Forbes, Les Wexner and Leon Black,
Speaker 1: who we are going to talk about later, are the
Speaker 1: ones that paid seventy five percent of Jeffrey Epstein's fee
Speaker 1: income quote unquote between nineteen ninety nine and twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: to the tune of five hundred million dollars. Wow, five
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Seventy five percent of that came directly
Speaker 1: from Leon Black and Les Wexner. And again, let's just
Speaker 1: let's hypothetical. Let's play a little mind game here. Let's
Speaker 1: say that, Okay, maybe he did cut ties in eight
Speaker 1: So you're telling me in nine years you paid this
Speaker 1: guy seventy five percent of five hundred million dollars, and
Speaker 1: you're now gonna say that he stole that from you,
Speaker 1: whenever all of the documentation shows you paid it for
Speaker 1: league or not legal pheesic excuse me? For a fee income?
Speaker 1: It was a financial fee for being a consultant to them, right,
Speaker 1: never mind the fact that we have a pay portrayal
Speaker 1: of are you paying him up until twenty eighteen? Less?
Speaker 1: But your cut ties in eight less? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Brow?
Speaker 2: Anyway, So I'll read this to you. It says, this
Speaker 2: is from Cleveland dot Com. It says the memo states
Speaker 2: that Wexner first met Epstein in the nineteen eighties through
Speaker 2: a mutual friend who recommended Epstein as a financial advisor.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: After a couple other.
Speaker 2: Acquaintances recommended Epstein as well, Wexner brought Epstein on to
Speaker 2: help with his investments end quote. The document states, according
Speaker 2: to the accountant of Wexner Attorneys provided, over time, Epstein
Speaker 2: became more involved in Wexner's finances until Epstein controlled all
Speaker 2: of his personal finances with virtually no oversight. In ninety one,
Speaker 2: Epstein obtain power of attorney from Wexner, which enabled Epstein
Speaker 2: to handle the purchase and sale of real estate and
Speaker 2: their assets.
Speaker 3: On Wegner's behalf.
Speaker 2: The documents revealed that at some point in ninety eight,
Speaker 2: Epstein sold himself the New York residence in which he said,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, so this was Wexner. So this was the
Speaker 2: one which he resided in until his arrest in nineteen
Speaker 2: at a deeply discounted price, and notes that the New
Speaker 2: York residents had previously belonged to Wexner, but Wexner's had
Speaker 2: moved out of it in nineteen ninety five. The document
Speaker 2: said that Epstein also sold himself a private plane that
Speaker 2: previously belonged to Wexner at a deeply discounted price. Right
Speaker 2: the theft acts as an accusation, So I actually read
Speaker 2: it's interesting that that's what they stated, because when I
Speaker 2: originally read about how he got the Manhattan Place was
Speaker 2: that Wexner gifted it to him in a roundabout sale
Speaker 2: way and so that.
Speaker 3: He didn't have to pay taxes on it. He quote
Speaker 3: sold it to him.
Speaker 2: I think it was, like I believe that I read
Speaker 2: that it was it was an obscene low mount right
Speaker 2: thousand dollars or some stupid shit like that, Like it
Speaker 2: was dumb, how cheap it was, and they did that
Speaker 2: on purpose to avoid the tax right, And that he
Speaker 2: brought him into his inner circle because he trusted him
Speaker 2: so much, to the point where people were really questioning
Speaker 2: his deep seated ties with him, like out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: and pretty much he met him, and he within like
Speaker 2: a few months, all of a sudden, Epstein was like
Speaker 2: in everything.
Speaker 1: Right exactly, and so that's when he became a talent
Speaker 1: scout and all the shit, all the things. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, he is the one that facilitated the purchase
Speaker 1: of the Manhattan Place and the Lolita Express and again
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, it was confirmed that he sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: a young model who was trying to become a angel
Speaker 1: for Victoria's Secret. All of it was pushed under the rug.
Speaker 1: Multiple execs, not just one or two. Multiple executives on
Speaker 1: the board came to Less and told them, listen, your boy,
Speaker 1: Jeff got to go like, this is not good for business.
Speaker 1: Lex basically told him all to get bent right now.
Speaker 1: Cut two again. He allegedly cut ties in eight. Remember
Speaker 1: I said that now because when we talk about him
Speaker 1: and Leon Black being the reason why Epstein made that money,
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Black here in a moment too.
Speaker 1: And again that eight number just kind of evaporates like
Speaker 1: fairy dust. But anyway, moving forward here.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to read the rest of this because
Speaker 2: it's actually interesting. So, according to the memo, Epstein told
Speaker 2: Wex he had other clients and didn't need any payment
Speaker 2: because quote, because Epstein was having fun and they would
Speaker 2: settle it up later. The relationship ended in twenty two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven at the extent of alleged misappropriation of funds,
Speaker 2: and so apparently Epstein mishandled his personal affairs and that
Speaker 2: he was out several hundred million dollars, and then it
Speaker 2: goes to say. The document explains that around the time,
Speaker 2: Epstein told Wex that he was having legal problems involving
Speaker 2: an overly aggressive police chief in some sort of massage.
Speaker 2: Epstein said he was being blackmailed and it would get messy,
Speaker 2: so it would be the best interest for Wex's wife
Speaker 2: to take over the family finances. When Wex's wife examined
Speaker 2: their finances, she discovered that Epstein had misappropriated a significant
Speaker 2: amount of the family funds, and the memo states, for example,
Speaker 2: Epstein frequently bought property on behalf of Wex's and then
Speaker 2: sold it to himself for half the fraction of the cost.
Speaker 3: You're telling me that this man didn't know at all.
Speaker 2: According to their to the attorneys, Wexner did not want
Speaker 2: to bring unnecessary public attention to the issue, so they
Speaker 2: went threw the power of attorney and hired counsel to
Speaker 2: negotiate a private settlement with Epstein. The document states that
Speaker 2: as a result of those negotiations, Epstein agreed to return
Speaker 2: one hundred million to the Wexners, which he did in
Speaker 2: January of twenty of two thousand and eight. The memo
Speaker 2: notes at that point the Wexner that wex severed all
Speaker 2: ties with Epstein and has not spoken to him ever since.
Speaker 3: Also, the Department of Justice said that.
Speaker 2: It knows significance findings about Epstein's wealth that misconduct, together
Speaker 2: with fees that Epstein paid himself for his services to Wexner,
Speaker 2: appears to account for vitally all of Epstein's wealth. And
Speaker 2: it goes on like talking more about about the financial
Speaker 2: memo and that wextern knew nothing about any of these claims,
Speaker 2: and at the time Epstein owned a property adjacent to
Speaker 2: the Wexner's about a half a mile away from his property,
Speaker 2: that the Wexterner's security team is not aware of any
Speaker 2: inappropriate incidents taking place at Wexner's property, and that this
Speaker 2: was the first time that he's ever heard of these
Speaker 2: allegations and from a public reporting no less.
Speaker 3: Later on that year, the.
Speaker 2: House Committee is going to continue looking into subpoenaed him
Speaker 2: and don't wanted to testify him as well. So I
Speaker 2: just want to to add in all of that. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of where things are on that.
Speaker 1: So with that, the whole cutting ties thing, he had
Speaker 1: his banker at JP Morgan release a statement in eight
Speaker 1: saying that basically all ties of Epscene are done, even
Speaker 1: though it's understood that they were paying Epscene up until
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So whatever, whatever right he has been, like
Speaker 1: you said, subpoenaed by Congress and is set to testify
Speaker 1: later this month. As a time of recording, it's going
Speaker 1: to be like the middle of the month of February
Speaker 1: unless they do an extension February eighteenth. There it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all of this to say, Victoria's Secret was always
Speaker 1: and still is a streamline to abusing women by men
Speaker 1: like this. I'm sorry, there's no other way to cut this. Like, well,
Speaker 1: I know they just wanted to they want to have
Speaker 1: a you know, nice lingerie for women. But bah blah, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that. It's not that there are there are
Speaker 1: companies that sell lingerie and brawls and underwear to women
Speaker 1: who do not focus on making women feel bad about
Speaker 1: their bodies and then streamline the abuse of their top models.
Speaker 1: There's companies out there that do it. Victoria's Secrets because
Speaker 1: of people like less. That's literally what it was founded upon.
Speaker 1: And actually, if you want to look at the story
Speaker 1: of how Victoria's Secret was founded, it started off with
Speaker 1: the objectification of women and abusing them. That's literally where
Speaker 1: it started from and from its inception.
Speaker 2: But anyway, isn't there actual scandals with him himself, Like
Speaker 2: he actually has had multiple scandals, like some type of
Speaker 2: sexual assault or abuse or something like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: know he was named as a co conspirator in the
Speaker 2: sex trafficking ring and because of all the photos with
Speaker 2: them together throughout the time and stuff like that. But
Speaker 2: I thought he had his own allegations. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a raging piece of shit. There's a lot of different
Speaker 2: stuff that's happened with Victoria's secret in and of itself.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's no way that you're telling me that
Speaker 2: he lived half a mile away from you and your
Speaker 2: security team didn't notice anything, never once, never, one time
Speaker 2: ever that.
Speaker 1: This is absolute horseshit. I'm sorry. And again, the whole
Speaker 1: statement of oh we cut ties the fuck you did, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's really cute. That's cute that you had your
Speaker 1: accountant release a statement.
Speaker 3: I think that they were.
Speaker 2: I think that I think what they did was he
Speaker 2: was completely embedded in this dude's life to the point
Speaker 2: where he owed his entire wealth to him, and that.
Speaker 3: He knew whatever powers that beat good.
Speaker 2: Old Jeff knew that he was going to get a
Speaker 2: slap on the wrist and that it was going to
Speaker 2: draw public attention. And so to save face for for Wex,
Speaker 2: they had this public falling out where he was accused
Speaker 2: of this stuff.
Speaker 3: And you know, we broke ties. How dare you all
Speaker 3: for show it wasn't what wasn't.
Speaker 2: JP Mortgage is the one that paid a whole bunch
Speaker 2: in defense of Epstein, Like they paid out some of
Speaker 2: their victims like two hundred and eighty million or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well he got his start with as far as the
Speaker 1: financial side of shit goes. He worked for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, I know, but there's something that
Speaker 3: just recently. I'll have to look into it. But there's
Speaker 3: no way that I don't believe that they ever cut ties.
Speaker 2: And I believe that good old Jeff was saving Wex
Speaker 2: from being able to be you know, prosecuted with him
Speaker 2: because that's his cash cow.
Speaker 1: Eat.
Speaker 2: He is his cash cow, so he's not going to
Speaker 2: have him take the fall.
Speaker 3: So of course they're going to distance I mean, a.
Speaker 2: Hundred million dollars like to them, that's nothing like you're
Speaker 2: a billionaire. Like, it's yeah, I mean, it's a little
Speaker 2: I mean it's it might be a little ouch, you know,
Speaker 2: but not that bad. You could just move some stocks around,
Speaker 2: you mean, you're to charge it's a little everything else.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more than that. Whenever people grant it,
Speaker 1: it's for your correct that when you're at that level
Speaker 1: of finance, one hundred million is not that big of
Speaker 1: a deal. But it's also like, I hear a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, well, if elon, why didn't he just
Speaker 1: sell some assets and he's got a hundred million, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: just because the dude's got like four hundred billion or whatever,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have four hundred billion liquid, Like, he can't
Speaker 1: go to the bank and take out four hundred billion
Speaker 1: green dollars. He's it's tied up in assets, and it's
Speaker 1: tied up in ownership of stocks in his company and
Speaker 1: these things. And it's like, okay, well, why doesn't he
Speaker 1: sell so much of it to pay these taxes or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, because if he was to sell one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars of his stock in order to have that
Speaker 1: cash liquid to go and do something, his stock price
Speaker 1: now dropped one hundred million, and so that makes the
Speaker 1: rest of his portfolio drop as a result, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a little more complicated. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you're correct. One hundred million dollar loss to this level
Speaker 1: of wealth. I mean it's a hit. It's not a
Speaker 1: it's not a life altering hit by any means. This
Speaker 1: is a this is what they would consider a tight
Speaker 1: month for the family.
Speaker 2: You know, did you know that he founded the limited
Speaker 2: Abercrombie and Fitch and Math and body Works too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bath and body Works. I knew his Victoria's secret
Speaker 1: Abercrombie and Fitch.
Speaker 3: I thought it was Yeah, No, I did not realize
Speaker 3: that Abercommie Fitch was his as well. And Bath and
Speaker 3: body Works.
Speaker 1: I knew about Bath and body Works.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot of money right there. Yes, it
Speaker 2: is a lot and obscene amount of money.
Speaker 1: All tied into a raging piece of shit. Now, with
Speaker 1: all of that, I did bring up another name, Leon Black,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people. Some people have heard of him,
Speaker 1: some people have not. So let's dive into him a
Speaker 1: little bit here. Leon Black was the founder of the
Speaker 1: Apollo Global Management. Now, if that doesn't sound like some
Speaker 1: sort of an evil villain enterprise. I don't know what does,
Speaker 1: but okay, he paid Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: million dollars for tax advice over six years, and at
Speaker 1: least that much is confirmed. There's all kinds of under
Speaker 1: the table deals as well, but above board on paper,
Speaker 1: he at least paid him one hundred and seventy million
Speaker 1: for tax advice quote unquote over six years. Now, what
Speaker 1: kind of tax advice might I be referring to? Raven Lee?
Speaker 1: Your boy? Leon Black was a massive art collector. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean some college kids, uh welding sculpture that's
Speaker 1: gonna go for six billion? No, no, no, I mean
Speaker 1: like big names, big names and the art collection game.
Speaker 1: That was his shit. Right now, to say that, oh well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know about Jeffrey Epstein, I cut times, but
Speaker 1: bute b He sent Jeffrey Epstein a birthday gift in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and for we don't know exactly what it was,
Speaker 1: but whatever it was, it required that it be X
Speaker 1: ray before it be handed to him. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That could be so many things. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, he stepped down in twenty twenty one for.
Speaker 1: Me and the jump ahead CEO jumping ahead of me here.
Speaker 1: So hold on, I got a whole thing, so okay
Speaker 1: tell me all that. So in twenty twenty one he
Speaker 1: resigned to CEO from the Apollo Global Management. That was
Speaker 1: in March of twenty twenty one. A few days later
Speaker 1: he stepped down as chair of the Museum a modern
Speaker 1: arts board of trustees. So basically he didn't just cut
Speaker 1: ties from his business that he started. He cut dies
Speaker 1: from his passion project as well. Now, the new files
Speaker 1: that have been released about Epstein and all these things,
Speaker 1: they showed that Epstein helped Black turn his art collection
Speaker 1: into bankable collateral so that Blank Black could borrow money
Speaker 1: against them to the tune of an estimated one point
Speaker 1: four billion dollars in twenty seventeen alone. Wow, that was
Speaker 1: the evaluation in twenty seventeen was that Epstein basically showed
Speaker 1: him like, oh, bro, you have an original Mandria, Anne,
Speaker 1: you have an original mone right here. What you need
Speaker 1: to do is take that, get it appraised, put it
Speaker 1: as collateral to a large you know thing, a large
Speaker 1: loan from a bank over here, sell it at auction
Speaker 1: for half of the value and then you made money
Speaker 1: on top of money, and it's tall in tax free.
Speaker 1: It's a mess. The fine art community, just so everybody's clear,
Speaker 1: is just a big tax haven, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: And Epstein knew that. So he helped his boy, Leon Black,
Speaker 1: turn a couple million into one point four billion, and
Speaker 1: then Epstein was paid one hundred and seventy million for
Speaker 1: his efforts.
Speaker 3: Well, now he's churned in all of his assets to
Speaker 3: seven hundred and eighty five billion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was able to do that in about
Speaker 1: eight years, give or take. So he's obviously doing well.
Speaker 1: But now that these files have dropped, he has stepped
Speaker 1: down from well. In twenty twenty one, he stepped down
Speaker 1: from everything, and it's not looking good. It's not looking good.
Speaker 1: Now he has not been subpoenaed, but I have a
Speaker 1: weird feeling that he will be soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's talking about description of alleged abuse by
Speaker 2: a private equity billionaire, a Museum of Modern Art trustee,
Speaker 2: Leon Black, the documents related to a convicted sex offender.
Speaker 2: Obviously certain details expressed in the spiral bound notebook, including year, location,
Speaker 2: and perpet like whatever his alleged abuse was corresponded to
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three lawsuit alleged alligating that sorry, I
Speaker 2: gotta make it bigger. The billionaire reaped a sixteen year
Speaker 2: old who has autism in a rare form of down
Speaker 2: syndrome in Epstein's Manhattan residence in two thousand and two,
Speaker 2: according to court yes.
Speaker 3: According to the court filings at the time, the girl's
Speaker 3: developmental age was estimated to be around twelve years old.
Speaker 2: The lawsuit is ongoing, and the woman known as Jane
Speaker 2: Doe recently fired her attorney. On a page of the
Speaker 2: of the journal, the diaries author pasted a copy of
Speaker 2: Sylvia plas nineteen sixty two poems Stop Dead, and added
Speaker 2: Leon Black in handwriting next to the title. The author
Speaker 2: underlined several times of the poem birth cry fatso millionaire,
Speaker 2: It's violent, goddamn baby screaming there's only there's always a
Speaker 2: bloody baby. Your seven chins still as a ham. Some
Speaker 2: of the entries appeared to have be to ben had
Speaker 2: excuse me. Some of the entries appeared to be written
Speaker 2: in a form of code. The letters are arranged so
Speaker 2: that the reader the read that it was reading downward
Speaker 2: diagonally upward tore the right down and repeating the pattern
Speaker 2: produces a coherent message. So on screen it actually shows
Speaker 2: the message. I can show you if you want to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: Go I have screenshare. Yeah all right, let me do
Speaker 3: this really quick.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Leon Black not only was he this
Speaker 1: wealthy financier guy and an art collector, he was a
Speaker 1: rapist to a autistic down syndrome girl. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yes, So this is the this is a part of
Speaker 2: the notebook, and this is what it looks like.
Speaker 3: Okay, So apparently this is a sequence, and there's like
Speaker 3: birth cry.
Speaker 2: Fat millionaire, it's violent, goddamn baby screaming.
Speaker 3: There's always a bloody baby.
Speaker 2: Your seven chins still a ham So it says, if
Speaker 2: you want to read it, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's see. Uh. Document label confidential for attorney's
Speaker 1: eyes only appears to translate and transcribe some of the
Speaker 1: coded entries, including one that includes allegations that Black bit
Speaker 1: the victim and made her bleed. Does a direct quote.
Speaker 1: This is the decoded entry. It's begins with walk down
Speaker 1: Madison Avenue to seventy first Street, referencing Epstein's upper east
Speaker 1: Side address. Continuing even though jess Lane said it was
Speaker 1: best to take me home because mister Black is so
Speaker 1: important for some reason over my health. The author continues,
Speaker 1: there is going to be hell to pay. I ruin
Speaker 1: their trip, and I am dramatic when that fat fuck
Speaker 1: bit me. He threw me on the floor and blood
Speaker 1: all over my all over Jeffrey's carpet, And I am
Speaker 1: the issue. Who the fuck bites someone sick? No one
Speaker 1: is that important, and Leon can go fuck himself. I
Speaker 1: hate New York. Whoa wow? And again I know that
Speaker 1: people are gonna make it seem like, well, how can
Speaker 1: we trust this? Sourus? Do we know this to be
Speaker 1: a fact? All this and this no, no, no, Now
Speaker 1: that everything's coming out about Epstein and all of his connections,
Speaker 1: nothing is off the table. Nothing is too crazy, nothing
Speaker 1: is too obscene or too preposterous for us to not
Speaker 1: dive in on. So I'm sorry at this point, fuck
Speaker 1: Leon Black too. He absolutely raped this sixteen year old,
Speaker 1: the special needs girl, and he deserves to get fried
Speaker 1: alive as well. And then on top of that, did
Speaker 1: all his money in art sales to try to avoid
Speaker 1: the taxes. So there's that. Anyway, Are you reading more?
Speaker 2: It just says that the identity of the journal's author
Speaker 2: is redacted. Advocates of Epstein's victims, including the lawyer whose
Speaker 2: confidential client was named over five hundred times in the
Speaker 2: recent document release, has criticized the DOJ for publishing in
Speaker 2: sensitive information about the victim's identities. Yeah, so this goes
Speaker 2: on to talk about more about this whole thing. In
Speaker 2: Black's attorney and mister Black asked for an independent investigation
Speaker 2: of his relationship with Epstein. He pretty much is saying
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have any ties to him. Sure that
Speaker 2: they want to review more than sixty thousand documents, interviewed
Speaker 2: more than twenty people, and concluded that mister Black paid
Speaker 2: Epstein for estate planning and tax advice, and that he
Speaker 2: had no awareness of Epstein's criminal criminal activities. Of the
Speaker 2: three civil lawsuits filed against mister Black, one has been dismissed,
Speaker 2: one the other withdrawn, and the other is currently facing
Speaker 2: a case of terminating motion for sanctions. There is absolutely
Speaker 2: no truth to any of the allegations against mister Black.
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, remember how I said in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: he emailed and was sending Epstein a birthday gift and
Speaker 1: all these things took place in the twenty teens as
Speaker 1: far as him and showing him how to make his
Speaker 1: money and do these things with the art. Remember how
Speaker 1: earlier in the beginning of the episode, I said that
Speaker 1: there was a specific year where anybody who does any
Speaker 1: dealings with Epstein passed this year. Cannot claim the ignorance
Speaker 1: of I did know about jeb are you Upsteck seven
Speaker 1: and it was confirmed in Wait, beyond any shadow of
Speaker 1: any doubt, in a court of law, it was confirmed
Speaker 1: that he is a registered sex offender. So again, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: mister Black, dad is a lie. You are lying, and
Speaker 1: that's a perjury charge. Next time they bring you to court.
Speaker 1: It's good things.
Speaker 2: So the girl that they're saying was the victim, which
Speaker 2: I'm not saying. I don't know anything really about this case,
Speaker 2: but his mister Black's lawyer is saying that her actual
Speaker 2: name doesn't appear in the database of Epstein's victims, and
Speaker 2: her birth family is suddenly saying that she makes up
Speaker 2: stories and fabricates fabricates evidence. Among her most absurd and
Speaker 2: false claims are that in less than three years she
Speaker 2: was trafficked to more than fifty men birth multiple children
Speaker 2: fathered by Epstein and suffered at least six forced abortions.
Speaker 3: None of this is true.
Speaker 2: The Wagdor firm which represented her has withdrawn from the
Speaker 2: case and ceased representing her. We have moved to terminate
Speaker 2: the case and obtained stations against them and her for
Speaker 2: false and fraudulent claims against mister Black. Black was also
Speaker 2: accused of sexual abuse in two other lawsuits, which have
Speaker 2: since been dismissed or withdrawn. In twenty one, this other
Speaker 2: person accused Black of sexual abuse after Black claimed that
Speaker 2: she that she had extorted money from him following her
Speaker 2: initial public allegations of sexual misconduct. The judge dismissed the
Speaker 2: civil case based on determining that the nine point five
Speaker 2: million dollar payment from Black under a non disclosure agreement
Speaker 2: precluded her from pursuing any more claims in court. Wait,
Speaker 2: so she was paid nine point five nine point five
Speaker 2: million dollars right for just you know, lying deformation and
Speaker 2: sexual abuse.
Speaker 3: And she was lying right.
Speaker 1: Nine point five and sillion dollars is quite a payout
Speaker 1: when there's nothing to go on here. What are we talking?
Speaker 3: Nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 2: So then another person, Sherry Pearson, permanently withdrew her twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two lawsuit alleging Black had raped her in two
Speaker 2: thousand and two. Epstein's upper east side is unclear why
Speaker 2: she withdrew it in two thousand and four. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe because he probably threatened to kill her. Probably it
Speaker 2: sounds like the first victim that we were talking about.
Speaker 2: The family I think was paid as well.
Speaker 1: And it actually it's in her birth family. That's a
Speaker 1: very strange thing to say, because.
Speaker 3: Her birth family.
Speaker 2: So if she was trafficked at at a young age
Speaker 2: and she was forced to have because remember.
Speaker 3: You talked about how Epstein had.
Speaker 2: Breeders, oh yeah, and forced abortions and was breeding all
Speaker 2: of these children, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: That pretty much falls.
Speaker 2: In line with what was happening to other women's.
Speaker 1: As the game. Honestly, I don't see why this is
Speaker 1: seen as oh, that can't be because, okay, let's say
Speaker 1: even a portion of that, because again, we are talking
Speaker 1: about a person with true mental situations here, a real
Speaker 1: mental issue documented.
Speaker 2: I mean, having having down center autism doesn't make them
Speaker 2: excual liars exactly, and down from them out of anything makes.
Speaker 3: Them more truthful than the rest of us.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. Literally took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 3: Honestly, they're inherently truthful. For like nine out of ten
Speaker 3: of them are like the most truthful people possible, so.
Speaker 2: And autism depending on what type. They'll just tell you
Speaker 2: the truth right out the gate. They don't even pick
Speaker 2: up on social cues. So I'm having a hard time
Speaker 2: thinking that this is an incorrect thing because it goes
Speaker 2: on to talk about how Black bites parts of her vagina.
Speaker 2: Violence was the most arousing thing for him, and it
Speaker 2: was very extremely painful for her, And she talks about
Speaker 2: how she was raped by Epstein. An Black used to
Speaker 2: talk about victims and described her as being ten and
Speaker 2: they knew they knew about her. They knew about her
Speaker 2: before they even got a hold of her. Minor victim
Speaker 2: at Epstein's townhouse was told that Leon Black was to
Speaker 2: give a massage to Leon Black and then violently raped
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 1: The thing I wanted to bring up though, as far
Speaker 1: as the whole birthing family thing or birth family, does
Speaker 1: that mean that she was a like a foster care
Speaker 1: child or something like that. Nobody says that. Nobody uses
Speaker 1: the term, oh her birth family.
Speaker 2: I think she was a runaway excuse me. I don't
Speaker 2: think personally, I don't think she was ran away. I
Speaker 2: think that she was taken. I'm assumed. This is me
Speaker 2: making assumptions. I don't know actually the full story. So
Speaker 2: this is just me making an assumption.
Speaker 1: But then the fact that her birth family comes out
Speaker 1: and says this about her later on, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: possible that she was sold by her family into the
Speaker 1: service of Epstein. That's a possibility. Maybe she's a runaway,
Speaker 1: Maybe she was a Falster care child. Right, there's so
Speaker 1: many different levels of that.
Speaker 3: There got so many different But the.
Speaker 1: Fact that they made the mention of her birth family
Speaker 1: coming forward and saying, oh, you can't listen to anything
Speaker 1: she says that da da nobody is talking about Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if something happened with one of my children and good
Speaker 1: or bad, no one's gonna call me their birth father.
Speaker 1: I'm their dad. That that's a crazy fucking thing to say,
Speaker 1: you see what I mean, that's a strange way to
Speaker 1: word it. So I don't know, I don't know. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that as we're bringing up the connection
Speaker 1: with Les Wexner, and we are bringing up the connection
Speaker 1: with Leam Black, I think it's only right that we
Speaker 1: show the entire picture these two very wealthy financial guys
Speaker 1: for very different reasons. They are very wealthy. Both of
Speaker 1: them paid Epstein massive amounts of money for advice and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, consolidation or I'm sorry, consultation work. And both
Speaker 1: of them also were known to have some sort of
Speaker 1: an abuse allegation behind them, so did Epstein, and then
Speaker 1: they all claimed that they cut ties with him, even
Speaker 1: though again up until twenty eighteen, the tithes were very concrete.
Speaker 1: So anyway, just want.
Speaker 3: To if you want the details of it, I have
Speaker 3: the actual details of what was.
Speaker 1: We have more to go, but sure, oh it's up
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: I just was reading through the actual details of the victim, saying,
Speaker 2: so you go ahead, you can go on yours.
Speaker 1: Okay, going on to the next thing. How about the
Speaker 1: health and longevity experts? These are fun ones, right, so
Speaker 1: we all want to live happier, healthier, longer lives. Who doesn't, right,
Speaker 1: But would you become one of Jeffrey Epstein's homies to
Speaker 1: secure funding to make it happen? Would you, Raven?
Speaker 3: No, No, no.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. You wouldn't become friends with some wealthy financier person.
Speaker 1: If that could help you fund your experiments to live longer.
Speaker 3: I'd be really skeptical of these people.
Speaker 1: And especially if you found out that wealthy financier type
Speaker 1: is confirmed, a sexual predator, has an island in the
Speaker 1: houses and the Lolita express, all these things. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: just like jump at that opportunity.
Speaker 3: You know, why not? No?
Speaker 1: Not at all of same. For the record, I can't
Speaker 1: think of a worst reason, because, yeah, let's say you
Speaker 1: do lift forever. Now you're living forever with the guilt
Speaker 1: of knowing where that money came from to help you
Speaker 1: live forever was off of children being raped and murdered.
Speaker 1: But would you know it's for the greater science for
Speaker 1: some of these fucks, I mean, they.
Speaker 3: Don't really give a shit about anybody, that's true.
Speaker 1: Speaking of how these people don't give a shit about
Speaker 1: anybody but themselves, I'm so glad you wereed it the
Speaker 1: way you did. Let's talk about Peter Atiya. Now, Peter Atiya,
Speaker 1: the name may not be that familiar to you as
Speaker 1: of this moment, good cult members, but you may have
Speaker 1: heard of some of his products. You ever seen those
Speaker 1: David bars. There's a little golden wrapped up granola bars
Speaker 1: that are super healthy and protein bars and all these things.
Speaker 1: You've seen them in health foods towards. Yeah, sure that
Speaker 1: that's Peter Tas company, right. He also founded the Early
Speaker 1: Medical this Early Medical Foundation, which what do they do?
Speaker 1: Medical consultation? Who knows? He is an Instagram health and
Speaker 1: fitness influencer. Dude has been on all kinds of podcasts,
Speaker 1: whether it's Andrew Huberman's or Joe Rogan's, He's been on
Speaker 1: all of them. He's been around talking, and he is
Speaker 1: blowing the fuck up right now. Before the Epstein things
Speaker 1: got dropped, he has been going viral consistently in the
Speaker 1: past few weeks, which I'm very glad that he had
Speaker 1: his little run because that's all about to get ripped
Speaker 1: out from under him now. But let's talk more about him.
Speaker 1: His name appears one thousand, seven hundred and thirty two
Speaker 1: times in the files that were just released. Okay. In
Speaker 1: one email between Groff and him, Groff would be one
Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's personal assistants, one of his top dogs.
Speaker 1: He states, and I quote, I go into je withdrawals
Speaker 1: when I don't see him. He says this immediately after
Speaker 1: making plans to be there at the island two weeks
Speaker 1: from the time of the email. This was in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: so again before anybody's like, oh well, that was back
Speaker 1: before people knew. No, no, no, no, this is confirmed. He
Speaker 1: is a massive known pedophile. And this guy is going
Speaker 1: on and on about Oh my god, I love him
Speaker 1: so much. I get je withdrawals when I don't see
Speaker 1: him for so long. I gotta go to the island
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. That's very creepy. What that's
Speaker 1: very very creepy. Jeffrey Epstein's status was widely known at
Speaker 1: that time in twenty sixteen. Come on now, okay, moving on.
Speaker 1: This dude is currently blowing up on social media right now.
Speaker 1: He needs to be fucking locked up. I stand by
Speaker 1: that statement. There's another email exchange where Jeffrey Epstein and
Speaker 1: Atiya where they're discussing female anatomy nastily, I'm the best
Speaker 1: way I could put it. And they were discussing female genitalia.
Speaker 1: And I understand that Atiya is a health person. They
Speaker 1: weren't talking about female health. It was locker room talk.
Speaker 1: They were talking about doing discussing things to young girls.
Speaker 1: That's what the email exchange is about. And they weren't
Speaker 1: even exactly being very very koy about it. They were
Speaker 1: being pretty out in the open with it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the crazy thing, the craziest thing about this particular set
Speaker 1: of emails is that Atiya's son, his son was fighting
Speaker 1: for his fucking life in the ICU after a nearly
Speaker 1: fatal incident. But Atiya couldn't be more concerned with that.
Speaker 1: He was trying to solidify plans to party with Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein the next day rather than be in the hospital
Speaker 1: with his infant son that's fighting for his life and
Speaker 1: his wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, could you be any more of a piece
Speaker 3: of shit?
Speaker 1: That's Peter Attia. Oh but let's keep going with him. Uh.
Speaker 1: He also worth noting here. January twenty seventh of this year,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, three days before the files dropped, Atilla
Speaker 1: was hired by CBS News as a contributor. Okay, he
Speaker 1: was hired by Barry Weiss's wife, Natalie Bowls Bowls. What
Speaker 1: the fuck? The lesbian couple also had email exchanges with
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. By the way, So Barry Weiss, Sir, I
Speaker 1: know so many people think that she's great because she like,
Speaker 1: she left this one agency because they were trying to
Speaker 1: tell her how to do things. And she's with CBS
Speaker 1: now and she's the Real News and b BA pop. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: her and her wife both have ties to Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: and they just hired a tea the raging piece of
Speaker 1: shit that had Jeffrey Epstein withdraws. See him enough, all
Speaker 1: of these things. He's all about the health and the
Speaker 1: wellness and the fitness and the this and the we
Speaker 1: need to do these things with our with our macros
Speaker 1: and the lipids and the stuff. Throw out the fancy
Speaker 1: names of these people think is important as far as
Speaker 1: health and shit goes whatever, it's all. It's all a
Speaker 1: big clusterfuck start to finish. Yeah, what are you looking at?
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm listening to you. I'm looking at all
Speaker 2: the files right now for him. I was actually seeing.
Speaker 3: So he's mentioned one thousand, seven hundred and eleven times.
Speaker 1: Oh I got one seven hundred and thirty two.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it just got updated. It's one thousand,
Speaker 3: seven hundred and eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh so there's twenty something where he got taken away. Okay,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I was off by twenty y'all.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, sorry, I thought, sorry I was I
Speaker 3: was just looking.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if I can find the some
Speaker 2: of the emails, because of course they have them all
Speaker 2: like twelve thousand of the same one.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's what I'm mean thing they'll have
Speaker 1: the same one but different sections will be redacted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's tons and tons and tons and tons
Speaker 3: of the same kind.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, like it's a pleasure to see you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's to test Yeah, flexible, thanks Peter. It's it's trying
Speaker 2: to find any kind of information is just absolutely annoying
Speaker 2: through all of this.
Speaker 1: That's why we are doing this work good cult members
Speaker 1: so that you don't have to. Although if you, any
Speaker 1: of the good cult members out there, want to test
Speaker 1: what we are saying, go to the DOJ website, go
Speaker 1: look into these filesom yourselves. You're not gonna like what
Speaker 1: you're gonna find, but please do. And I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: if nothing else we're giving you, uh, like the subject
Speaker 1: matter that you could start looking at. Peter atiya at
Speaker 1: t I A A tia go look them up on
Speaker 1: your own and look at these text threads, these email threads,
Speaker 1: the one where he and Epstein are trying to like
Speaker 1: solidify plans to see them see each other the next
Speaker 1: day and they're trying to talk about it. Go ahead
Speaker 1: and look at the date for when his son almost
Speaker 1: died and was in the ICEU fighting for his life. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: he could be there with his wife at the hospital.
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen or twenty fifteen. Yeah, is one of them
Speaker 2: that he's going on and on about wanting to meet
Speaker 2: or you know, anytime we can get together.
Speaker 1: Blah.
Speaker 2: What is with them in emailing by the way, Like
Speaker 2: why can't they just send a flip and text message?
Speaker 3: They're back and forth eating the emailer.
Speaker 1: He looks like boomers and they think that that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Is the same thing with Killery. Remember when
Speaker 1: she had to delete her thirty thousand emails because she
Speaker 1: used her her work email as a person Like, I'm sorry, bitch,
Speaker 1: you don't know what a cell phone is.
Speaker 3: That's the first.
Speaker 2: That's the first emails though, that I've read out of
Speaker 2: hundreds where neither one of the names were redacted. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's really odd that I that's really strange because it's
Speaker 2: like nothing was redacted on that at all, which is
Speaker 2: not normal. But see then it says CC and it's
Speaker 2: reacted with who they who they see see but Leslie
Speaker 2: Groff is always mentioned Jojo of course, right, you can
Speaker 2: see who it's to and from. But then there's two
Speaker 2: other people that aren't aren't available, and it's talking about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, just simple mundane things. But it says like
Speaker 2: an appointment with Peter and then redacted. It's like, why
Speaker 2: is this redacted? I don't understand the redaction of certain things.
Speaker 2: It makes zero sense.
Speaker 1: Probably Peter's to you. We're gonna talk about him in a.
Speaker 3: Bit too, who knows. At this point, Leonon is brought up.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they're.
Speaker 1: Just the shitheads all ran together. They all they all
Speaker 1: fucked kids on the same island, so they all knew
Speaker 1: each other anyway. Anyway, So moving on, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to mention ol ol uh Peter Atiyah and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if somebody's out there trying to listen to CBS News,
Speaker 1: how about we don't because they're hiring a pedophile who
Speaker 1: is a raging piece of shit. And oh go ahead,
Speaker 1: I see the face.
Speaker 3: I found it.
Speaker 2: I found the email, which one the one where he's
Speaker 2: saying that I'm having withdrawls when I don't see him.
Speaker 1: No, it's so, And I don't the word cringey in
Speaker 1: this regard because all of this shit is cringey. But like, brokay,
Speaker 1: what are you saying?
Speaker 2: So it starts out from Leslie to Peter, and it
Speaker 2: starts out on January twenty for twenty sixteen, at seven
Speaker 2: fifty am. It says, no, no worries there. We will
Speaker 2: send our maid in to take care of it all.
Speaker 2: Hope you get the appointments soon.
Speaker 3: What a headache.
Speaker 2: Please let me know around what time you plan to
Speaker 2: vacate the apartment.
Speaker 3: Thanks Leslie.
Speaker 2: So this apartment that they mentioned, by the way, I
Speaker 2: just want to point out to everyone. If you actually
Speaker 2: start digging into it, you'll recognize that they consistently talk
Speaker 2: about this apartment, that their friends that at Epstein's friends
Speaker 2: go to right, and that.
Speaker 3: He had certain protocols for set apartment.
Speaker 2: Leslie is always talking talking about this apartment and that
Speaker 2: cream cheese will be delivered, pizza will be delivered to
Speaker 2: the apartment, you can have special things. And in one
Speaker 2: email it talks about how there used to be certain protocols,
Speaker 2: but they've shifted now, right, doesn't say why or what.
Speaker 2: There's certain protocols specifically for this apartment, talking about well
Speaker 2: we need to get together, and hey, i'll just drop
Speaker 2: this off at the apartment. I'll pick this up from
Speaker 2: this apartment. And it's always all of these people are
Speaker 2: consistently coming out of and going from this specific apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that doesn't make any like, I don't have
Speaker 2: any more answers to that. I just find it really
Speaker 2: interesting that this one apartment is consistently brought up all
Speaker 2: the time though, as like a segue between the meeting
Speaker 2: point for Epstein. All of these people are going to
Speaker 2: meet Epstein and they go to this apartment and things
Speaker 2: are delivered to them and things come out of the apartment,
Speaker 2: and then they go and see him on the island,
Speaker 2: and it's like a weird trans.
Speaker 1: So if I if I got this correct, and I
Speaker 1: might have a few details wrong here, the apartment is
Speaker 1: his Manhattan house.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is, okay.
Speaker 1: And when they get things delivered, these are code words
Speaker 1: for different types of children that are going to be delivered, right,
Speaker 1: the cheese, the pizza, the things, the stuff Once they
Speaker 1: get blackmail on this person because everything in that in
Speaker 1: that house, that quote unquote apartment in Manhattan, there's cameras in.
Speaker 3: Every room, so everywhere.
Speaker 1: Once they get the blackmail on them, now Epstein feels
Speaker 1: comfortable enough for them to come to the island because
Speaker 1: now if they try to burn them, he can burn
Speaker 1: them right back. And so that's how this all goes.
Speaker 1: It's that's like the uh, how could you put? This
Speaker 1: is the verification, if you will. And I could be
Speaker 1: wrong on a couple of these details, but I do
Speaker 1: believe that that's the apartment. That would be why the
Speaker 1: cream cheese is always being delivered in these things. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about all of that more.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but yeah, I just find it really interesting
Speaker 3: that the apartment is always brought up and they always
Speaker 3: have a cleaning service that comes in and make sure
Speaker 3: that everything's white clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the term they use. He replied back, Hey, Leslie,
Speaker 2: no luck. Very frustrating. Mary and I depart back to
Speaker 2: San Diego tomorrow with still no apartment. Thank you, so
Speaker 2: so so so much for your generosity. What can I
Speaker 2: do before I leave to ease the cleanup? Strip the sheets,
Speaker 2: take out the trash Peter. Then it talks about you know,
Speaker 2: thank you so much, safe trip home. I'll be out
Speaker 2: before one pm. Then he writes, no, thank you so much,
Speaker 2: see you next time. Hopefully JE will be in town
Speaker 2: when I get back.
Speaker 3: In two weeks. I go into JE withdrawal.
Speaker 2: When I don't see him dot dot dot. The reply back,
Speaker 2: oh my god, and thank you so much for the
Speaker 2: beautiful flowers. I'm just seeing them totally not necessary, but
Speaker 2: I love them.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Lise, Mary and I could do and
Speaker 2: then smile emojis and whatever.
Speaker 3: So he's like, what if that's really interesting though?
Speaker 2: Is that at a lot of the communications, not all
Speaker 2: of them, they're on and off. This there's a message
Speaker 2: that says, the information contained in this transmission mate this Yeah,
Speaker 2: this says transmission may contain privilege or confidential information, including
Speaker 2: patient information protected by a federal law and state privacy.
Speaker 3: Answer.
Speaker 2: So, but this isn't just for him though, it's for
Speaker 2: all sorts of random people. There is every so often
Speaker 2: there's this message that like, you can't share this, this information,
Speaker 2: my attorney says, you can't have this. Random times that
Speaker 2: this stuff pops up and I'm like, is it just
Speaker 2: because they copied it. I was watching somebody's talk about
Speaker 2: how it's all coded weird and stuff, because when they
Speaker 2: are taking it from the computers, it like decoded it weird.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what that is.
Speaker 1: But I keep in mind, but if anyone half of
Speaker 1: the stuff hasn't been released yet, it is because it
Speaker 1: is still pertinent to an ongoing investigation. Everything that's been
Speaker 1: released has been cleared safe to be released, so I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: So for anybody that wants to see this one, it's
Speaker 2: echo Foxtock Tango alpha zero zero three to three zero
Speaker 2: six three seven, So you can actually insert that and
Speaker 2: you can look it up yourself, just so that everyone
Speaker 2: can have it, because I'm printing everything out, so just
Speaker 2: in case it gets deleted, we.
Speaker 1: Have it indeed. So again, he's now working for CBS.
Speaker 1: As of a couple of weeks ago. Barry Weiss and
Speaker 1: her wife Nellie Bowles Bowels I don't know how fuck
Speaker 1: you pronounced it. They both also had exchanges with Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: We'll probably talk about them in particular on a later episode,
Speaker 1: but today we're just going through this, but staying on
Speaker 1: with the health and wellness and longevity vibes. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about your boy, Brian Johnson. And for anybody who doesn't
Speaker 1: know who this is, you've probably heard of him. The
Speaker 1: guy who uh who is in giving himself blood transfusions
Speaker 1: from his child and he's spending all of this money,
Speaker 1: all of this obscene, obscene amounts of wealth to make
Speaker 1: himself live forever. Right, So let's talk about him. We
Speaker 1: got some videos are gonna pull up here in just
Speaker 1: a moment. Hold on, let's just get there. The anti
Speaker 1: aging ex Mormon due getting blood transfusing from his child,
Speaker 1: the next Flix special Don't Die all about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've all heard of him, I think so. Anyway, February first,
Speaker 1: two days after the files dropped. This is very very
Speaker 1: important everybody, And if you don't believe me, please go
Speaker 1: check out his social media to make sure that I
Speaker 1: didn't get those wrong here, because I didn't I know that.
Speaker 1: Two days after the files dropped, Johnson posted publicly that
Speaker 1: he once had a zoom meeting with Epstein eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Just we're all on the same page here. He says
Speaker 1: that he had a single zoom meeting with him eight
Speaker 1: years ago, and he posted this on February first, anybody
Speaker 1: want to do the quick math on that to see
Speaker 1: when twenty twenty six minus eight years what that looks like? Y'all?
Speaker 1: Keep that, keep that in your brain for a second,
Speaker 1: all right, yo? Got it? Cool? Cool? Cool? He said
Speaker 1: that after ten minutes he got a dark vibe, he
Speaker 1: felt sick to my stomach, and he said that he
Speaker 1: never wanted to speak to him agear ever, Okay, Now
Speaker 1: keep in mind the eight years for anybody whose math
Speaker 1: ain't math, and that would be twenty eighteen. The files
Speaker 1: that just dropped, however, show a much different story. Crazy
Speaker 1: how that goes? And keep in mind the files dropped
Speaker 1: two days prior to him making that social media post.
Speaker 1: You would think that this dude would search his own
Speaker 1: name and make sure that at least his own story
Speaker 1: lined up. But you know, I guess with all of
Speaker 1: his blood transfusions, his body might be doing well, but
Speaker 1: his brain is getting more and more fucked by the day.
Speaker 1: But I don't you know, Hey, who am I to judge?
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it here. The file showed a
Speaker 1: different story. Multiple emails exchanged to make an in person
Speaker 1: meeting with Jeffrey Epstein in twenty seventeen, so that would
Speaker 1: be nine years ago, not eight years ago by Alex Klokos.
Speaker 1: Alice Clocos is the CEO of Futurism. Do your own
Speaker 1: math as to the connections there, and this is coordinated
Speaker 1: through Masha Drakhova. Now who is Masha Drakova, you might
Speaker 1: be asking. This woman is known to be a part
Speaker 1: of Putin's innermost circle for years. So oh yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: of course, when everybody's like, oh, he was a Mussada asset. No, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: he was, but he was an asset for every fucking body.
Speaker 1: The connection between the one of Live Forever guy and
Speaker 1: Epstein was made through one of Putin's top bitches. Like,
Speaker 1: this isn't even like a hypothetical. This is all confirmed, documented,
Speaker 1: so just throwing it out here. Maybe these health and
Speaker 1: longevity experts were, you know, gonna help Jeffrey Epstein with
Speaker 1: his eugenics and transhumanism. Shit, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, I think it's interesting that his account
Speaker 3: has gone on Instagram so.
Speaker 1: He took down his whole site now because it where
Speaker 1: find him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so maybe he has a TikTok.
Speaker 3: I'll have to look at the TikTok.
Speaker 2: But hey, maybe when he was the last guy we
Speaker 2: just talked about maybe they have a whole because you know,
Speaker 2: they all drink blood. So maybe he was like legitimately
Speaker 2: going through withdrawals because of Epstein. Because there was a
Speaker 2: kid that there was this kid, there was a man
Speaker 2: that just came out talking about he was a blood
Speaker 2: bag for Diddy for like eight years, yep.
Speaker 3: And that pretty much did.
Speaker 2: The entire body is made up of his blood and
Speaker 2: that if you notice, once he got to prison, he
Speaker 2: aged rapidly. Oh yeah, and he was talking about he
Speaker 2: was talking about how he would he would get picked
Speaker 2: up by Diddy and they would go on the boat
Speaker 2: because the maritime laws they would have to go out
Speaker 2: into the ocean, yeah, and like whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2: He would pretty much take as much blood as possible
Speaker 2: without killing this kid at the time.
Speaker 3: And then they would like bring him back.
Speaker 2: And that he did this on and off for like
Speaker 2: every once a month for years. And I was just
Speaker 2: kind of thinking, you know, since both of them are
Speaker 2: in the health of Wallis and we know that Peter
Speaker 2: has been drinking his son's blood, and there's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff with blood and blood sacrifice and all
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what say you that they?
Speaker 2: I mean, because if you actually watch the technology that
Speaker 2: he's been using, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Let's watch very well. You have a quick video pulled
Speaker 1: up for him. I don't see why not. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so the whole thing about oh well, I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about Epstein. I felt so sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: I got a dark vibe, all eyes, all eyes, and
Speaker 1: this guy came out a bit. There was one zoom
Speaker 1: call that I had with him, complete and total lies.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have to say that the whole withdrawal thing,
Speaker 1: that maybe it's an adrena chron withdraw I fully believe that.
Speaker 3: Maybe Let's watch this together, y'all.
Speaker 1: Brian Johnson on the Don't.
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Speaker 3: So I got some some follow up questions here, so
Speaker 3: many questions for one.
Speaker 1: No, two days are exactly the same, even though I
Speaker 1: can tell you my daily routine without fail every day,
Speaker 1: so right out the rim, that's like.
Speaker 3: Down to the minute, tell me you have extreme OCD
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Speaker 1: Tell me you're autistic, without telling me you're autistic. That's
Speaker 1: all Like, holy shit.
Speaker 2: I didn't even go into all of his crazy shit
Speaker 2: because that's actually different than what he used to do.
Speaker 2: Because the one that I saw was from a I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe two years ago.
Speaker 1: He's been talking about a score to much. I have
Speaker 1: the world's perfect sleep eight months.
Speaker 3: Oh you've never you never heard him talk about his skin?
Speaker 1: No, I had well stuff. But like, if that's all
Speaker 1: the notes for me to go, I would love to
Speaker 1: do a study for eight months and be like, oh
Speaker 1: you think that's perfect sleep?
Speaker 3: Boy, probably you'd be out like ten seconds, so good Peter.
Speaker 1: And have no alarm clock waking me up. Oh well,
Speaker 1: I don't have to get up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night. Me neither. Bro, It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: I just don't like, oh my god, No, there's yeah,
Speaker 3: that was no. But like the other ones that I've seen,
Speaker 3: was he spent though, like most of his days he
Speaker 3: spent where he was getting all of these injections done.
Speaker 2: I guess he's maybe upgraded himself because he wasn't one
Speaker 2: point getting all these.
Speaker 3: Tests on him like every day.
Speaker 2: He had this thing that honestly, the face map was
Speaker 2: really cool. So on a cell level, they could tell
Speaker 2: what was breaking apart and damaging and how like how
Speaker 2: good your skin was all the way down and how
Speaker 2: much damage you had and what you could repair. And
Speaker 2: from a science standpoint, it was really freaking cool. Like
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that he was uh showing, but
Speaker 2: it's like, what did you just inject in yourself? Because
Speaker 2: for those that aren't watching, you need to be able
Speaker 2: to watch the Jodan patreon, But what was he injecting
Speaker 2: in his butt?
Speaker 1: Like multiple times a day?
Speaker 2: Multiple times a day? So I'm like, you still haven't
Speaker 2: gone away from any of the other stuff. And also
Speaker 2: he's plant.
Speaker 1: Based by choice.
Speaker 2: He heard him say that choice, but I swear he
Speaker 2: was like super heavy before in like carnivore style. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I mean he's done a lot of it,
Speaker 2: so Where does your son's blood come into play?
Speaker 3: Is that like? Is that like after the lights dim
Speaker 3: at seven thirty or is at the.
Speaker 1: College and infusions they he's doing it.
Speaker 2: That's injection in your ass, Like is your deriving?
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? I mean, we're not going
Speaker 3: to talk about that. I mean, is that the plasm like.
Speaker 1: Your boys fucking psychotic and somehow connected very deeply with
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein that one zoom call that he claimed complete lies,
Speaker 1: complete lies. There was multiple conversations about meeting up with him,
Speaker 1: and that's the other side of it.
Speaker 3: He needs human blood, Yes, he needs human blood, and
Speaker 3: he was he needed Well.
Speaker 2: That's the thing though, is when originally he was trying
Speaker 2: to find what could reverse his age.
Speaker 3: And that was the one that I watched.
Speaker 2: Dreno was Yeah, but pretty much probably what he's injecting.
Speaker 3: In his ass that was in those vials because he
Speaker 3: had a whole drawer full. I'm gonna just safe to
Speaker 3: assume that it's probably a dreama coon.
Speaker 1: And I'm also going to assume he's divorced. I cannot imagine.
Speaker 3: That whole house was just like weird.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine a single woman on earth and grants
Speaker 1: and listen.
Speaker 2: I'm silarly thinking. I was like, when are you fucking
Speaker 2: Are you even doing that? Like is that above you?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, he doesn't. Fuck he's withholding his semen because
Speaker 1: it's like it's scanning his vrill in his aura or whatever.
Speaker 1: These people they don't nut, but they tell themselves whatever.
Speaker 3: Was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: Women notice me when I walk into a room because
Speaker 1: I don't jack off, they can they can feel me
Speaker 1: walking into the room. It's like, you think that's why
Speaker 1: they're looking at you. They're looking at you because you're
Speaker 1: giving them the creeps. Dog, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: He looks like he wants to like rip your soul out.
Speaker 2: He has like dead creepy eyes.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 3: He does really creepy. He really does.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just no wonder he was attached to Epstein,
Speaker 2: like come on, man, he needs and if I mean,
Speaker 2: if all of the emails are true, they're eating people.
Speaker 1: I also could imagine that Epstein.
Speaker 3: Eating children people. Yeah, I could.
Speaker 1: Imagine that Epstein probably funded some of this research into
Speaker 1: him because Epstein was all about the eugenics. He was
Speaker 1: all about the transhumanism and things you're gonna look if
Speaker 1: you're gonna look for the perfect specimen to try to
Speaker 1: do this with, wouldn't you go for the one who
Speaker 1: buy the numbers as the most healthy person on earth
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck? So I could see them being
Speaker 1: a lot of connections, honestly, between Epstein and hell. So,
Speaker 1: maybe it was for adreno crume, maybe it was for
Speaker 1: the scientific studies of it. Maybe it's because Epstein helped
Speaker 1: bankroll some of these things. But also, yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine a single woman. Listen. I know that it's attractive
Speaker 1: in the female mind for a man to take care
Speaker 1: of himself, to be fit, to eat healthy, to be successful,
Speaker 1: to be driven. I agree. I understand the thought process
Speaker 1: on that, and I could agree with a portion of
Speaker 1: that this is to a level of obsession, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's unhealthy to take your health this seriously. I would think,
Speaker 1: like this, this is not okay.
Speaker 3: I wonder what happens if something goes off, like if
Speaker 3: he misses his six minutes, Like.
Speaker 2: Like I wonder if like the battery dies on something
Speaker 2: and he just loses his absolute mind.
Speaker 1: Oh, has a whole meltdown.
Speaker 3: Well, now that Epstein, you know, supposedly isn't alive he's alive.
Speaker 3: If he's not, you know, supplying him.
Speaker 2: So who picked up that mantle? I wonder his son, Well,
Speaker 2: who is who's he getting? How I think he's getting
Speaker 2: He has to be getting blood from children, I guarantee it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not just his son. There's no way his son
Speaker 3: can give him that much blood.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how often he's getting the
Speaker 1: transfusions because of his daily routine. We just heard about
Speaker 1: on grants that I understand that was very much done
Speaker 1: for the principle of content. That's not his actual day
Speaker 1: to day. I understand that there's plasma transfusions, blood transfusions,
Speaker 1: all the stuff. Didn't hear that mentioned, So yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't hear that mentioned on this one when he did talk,
Speaker 2: which is surprising. I figured that was going to talk
Speaker 2: about his whole his whole daily routine blood situation vibe.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, so so as well as a patched
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the health and fitness influencers and longevity people. Fuck
Speaker 1: both of them, by the way, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring them up because their names got brought up in
Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Moving on to the next one here
Speaker 1: Steven Tish, who for the record, most people probably have
Speaker 1: never heard of, but you probably have heard of the
Speaker 1: team that he co owned, the New York Giants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, he was using Jeffrey Epstein to get intimate
Speaker 1: details about young women. Now what do I mean by this?
Speaker 1: He was basically having Epstein hire people to do deep
Speaker 1: dives into women that he wanted to get involved with,
Speaker 1: just that he knew things about them to bring up
Speaker 1: in conversation. So like the absolute creep the absolute creep
Speaker 1: fest here the emails, the emails between them are nothing
Speaker 1: short of the worst type of locker room talk that
Speaker 1: you can imagine, and great to listen. Being in the military,
Speaker 1: I've heard it all. I get it. There are certain
Speaker 1: things that are said to be overtly offensive in the
Speaker 1: realm of comedy, and there's guys that are saying overtly
Speaker 1: offensive stuff because they're pieces of shit. And I've seen
Speaker 1: that come in all shapes and colors. Here, this dude
Speaker 1: is trying to get intimate details about women and then
Speaker 1: discussing very very disgusting things about them with Epstein that
Speaker 1: he's trying to get after and he needs to know
Speaker 1: what the background is so he can make his way
Speaker 1: into there. He says. Currently, with the files being released,
Speaker 1: Tisch says that he is he deeply regrets his association
Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein, deeply. They were homies for years, years
Speaker 1: of email exchanges. All that passed two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: by the way, So like again the whole Oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was that person. No, you did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did. We all knew. You all knew, especially you
Speaker 1: being the owner of the New York Giants and with
Speaker 1: the Manhattan apartment like that, Like you you knew the
Speaker 1: wealthy people in New York. And I'm telling me you
Speaker 1: didn't know whatever, It's bullshit. So yeah, I just want
Speaker 1: to bring that one up.
Speaker 3: Moving on, you've mentioned four hundred and forty times, four
Speaker 3: hundred and forty times, four hundred and forty times from
Speaker 3: the mundane to the profane. Is what it says here?
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It says we had a brief association where we exchange
Speaker 2: emails about adult women. In addition, we discussed movies for Lampathry.
Speaker 2: I can never thank you investments. I did not take
Speaker 2: him up on any of his invitations. I never went
Speaker 2: to his island. As we all have all known now,
Speaker 2: he's a terrible person. Someone I deeply regret associating with.
Speaker 2: So I will say this, that's what his statement is.
Speaker 1: All of the evidence that I found when I said
Speaker 1: young women, I don't mean under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's very possible that he was trying
Speaker 1: to do some pedophilic shit as well. I can't confirm that.
Speaker 1: All I know is that he was basically using Epstein
Speaker 1: to get the scoop on women, young young women younger
Speaker 1: that he was trying to fuck. And it was. It
Speaker 1: was very creepy, it was very weird, and the the
Speaker 1: graphic terms that he was using to describe it was.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm writing, I'm not gonna act like I've
Speaker 1: never said a crude term or two in my life.
Speaker 1: I'll be straight up with you, right. But even still,
Speaker 1: there's limits, dude, There's there's got to be a limit
Speaker 1: to the wild shit you're saying, especially via email, you
Speaker 1: weird fucking boomer. Fuck. It makes no sense to me
Speaker 1: that these people don't know what phones are. It's anyway,
Speaker 1: even though it's all sent for myphones.
Speaker 2: That's the other part, Lily, it's been Yeah, they send
Speaker 2: and they send from BlackBerry and iPhones like you have
Speaker 2: a phone.
Speaker 1: Why aren't you calling him unless somebody is recording the conversation.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna bite you in the ass later. But no,
Speaker 1: everything must be via email. That's the wildest shit. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress, moving on. Oh, oh you're reading it? Oh God,
Speaker 1: which one?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm just I'm just reading some of the emails
Speaker 2: back and forth and talking about him talking about women.
Speaker 2: A ta Haitian speaking French exotic. He's talking about can
Speaker 2: I get my surprise tit to take me out to
Speaker 2: lunch tomorrow? Epstein reached out to Tish and another exchange.
Speaker 2: Did you contact the great ass fake tit name redacted?
Speaker 2: She's a character short term, has.
Speaker 3: An older boyfriend going to acting school A ten ass
Speaker 3: tits responding, thanks, Jeffrey, curious to know about name redacted?
Speaker 2: I will contact name redacted? Pro or civilian? Epstein responded, civilian,
Speaker 2: but Russian rarely tells the full truth.
Speaker 3: But fun.
Speaker 2: Then they talk about reporting. You did very well. She
Speaker 2: wants to go to the play. She is a little
Speaker 2: freaked out by the age difference, but Goslo, I'll try
Speaker 2: to convince her not to return to Ukraine. Having her
Speaker 2: cry worked really well. Tish replied, nice report, funny comment
Speaker 2: on the crying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they talk about. They talk about many people
Speaker 2: for dinner.
Speaker 3: They talk about is she is she a pro escort
Speaker 3: or is she just a fake.
Speaker 1: The pro civilian just a clear civilian. Yeah, that means
Speaker 1: is she a hooker? Or is she just a regular
Speaker 1: girl that's hot? That that's what you mean by this.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm happy to have you as a new friend,
Speaker 2: but share interest friend. Epstein wrote, No, they've been friends
Speaker 2: a long time, like it's the pair has served as
Speaker 2: co owners of a freeanchise for over twenty years, willing Willington,
Speaker 2: Marie and Bob Tish. And they're talking about just like
Speaker 2: how they're connected to him and that they all yeah, no.
Speaker 1: The Epstein connecting. So for all of our New York
Speaker 1: Giants fans out there, stop it stop right now. That
Speaker 1: team sucks.
Speaker 2: Anyway, movie, I didn't realize that he made a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of movies too, who Epstein?
Speaker 3: No tith Oho.
Speaker 2: As an American film producer and businessman, he made risky business.
Speaker 2: He also made Forrest Gump, American History X, and Snatch.
Speaker 3: Oh Wow, big names had no idea I had, Yeah, no.
Speaker 1: Idea, honestly, even as I'm doing the research on him.
Speaker 1: I just the big thing I saw was that he
Speaker 1: was the co owner of the Giants. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that he got his start in Hollywood, which yeah.
Speaker 2: His son actually as his son is the actual vice
Speaker 2: president of the Giants.
Speaker 1: Now it starts to make more sense of why there
Speaker 1: was a connection between him and Epstein, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: the Hollywood connection not alone, let alone the New York connection.
Speaker 1: But either way it goes right. And again, nothing that
Speaker 1: I saw, and I could be wrong. I didn't dive
Speaker 1: into every single time his name is mentioned of the
Speaker 1: four hundred and forty here, but from what I could tell,
Speaker 1: it all seemed to be of legal age women, which yeah,
Speaker 1: it does seem.
Speaker 2: It does seem of legal age women. It does seem
Speaker 2: that they're not children, thankfully.
Speaker 1: Which doesn't take away from the nastiness of it and
Speaker 1: the disgusting, underhanded nature of all this, but at least
Speaker 1: there is that.
Speaker 2: And the predatory nature in which they were, you know,
Speaker 2: still after Ukrainian and Russian and other you know, people
Speaker 2: that didn't probably speak really good English and making them
Speaker 2: feel very uncomfortable, but smoothing, smoothing them over with money.
Speaker 1: So so let's continue on that. VI, let's talk about
Speaker 1: this more of the Epstein getting information for guys to
Speaker 1: bang a chick and all these things and the money
Speaker 1: and all this. So apparently your boy Jeffrey Epstein was
Speaker 1: a bit of a player, right, and not just for
Speaker 1: the type that you can go buy this girl and
Speaker 1: do whatever to her. Apparently he could be a bit
Speaker 1: of a smooth talker. And there was a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that reached out to him for advice on how
Speaker 1: to pick up women and what to say and what
Speaker 1: to do, namely Larry H. Summers. Now, some of you
Speaker 1: might know him as the economist and the former US
Speaker 1: Secretary of Treasury. Others might know him as the president
Speaker 1: of Harvard University. Both are accurate. Oh, this is very accurate.
Speaker 1: Same guy currently, well more recently he was the president
Speaker 1: of Harvard. But moving on here the emails exchanged between
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Summers. I read one basically, Summers is
Speaker 1: asking Epstein for advice in regards to pursuing a young
Speaker 1: woman and a legal age legal age. It's on some
Speaker 1: sugar daddy shit or at least an attempt at it.
Speaker 1: But he's really bad at this because he's given the
Speaker 1: sugar without getting any of the back end for himself.
Speaker 1: The chick hid basically multiple guys. He understood that there
Speaker 1: was like at least three guys that she was talking
Speaker 1: to in flirting with, and somehow his old nasty ass
Speaker 1: was one of them, and he wouldn't get no sugar,
Speaker 1: but he was paying for it. It included a fucking uh.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to seem desperate, so he took her
Speaker 1: on a praduct shopping spree and got no ass in return,
Speaker 1: which is fucking hilarious to me. But beside the point,
Speaker 1: he's like going down this list of things that took
Speaker 1: place and things that were said between he and her
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein to get advice on what he should
Speaker 1: do next. And he doesn't want to seem desperate. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to just be a sugar daddy. He knows
Speaker 1: that he's one guy on the roster and he's trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to become the number one guy
Speaker 1: on the roster, and this whole it's very strange, it's
Speaker 1: very cringey, and again I'm using that term, but at
Speaker 1: the same time. I don't know another way to describe
Speaker 1: it appropriately. It's fucking weird. It's fucking weird. So the
Speaker 1: emails between the two continued until days before Jeffrey Epstein's arrest.
Speaker 1: So again, before anybody starts saying, oh, well, this was
Speaker 1: way back when this was six and no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: literally three days before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, there was
Speaker 1: an email exchange between Summers and Jeffrey Epstein, so like
Speaker 1: they were homies, they were boys like that. Somers has
Speaker 1: stepped back from his role at Harvard while the university
Speaker 1: administration reviews his connection to Jeffrey Epstein. Mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a mess. It's a mess. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the number of times he's mentioned.
Speaker 3: Ah. I'm currently looking right now, but I'm trying to
Speaker 3: see he's just more or less like I deeply regret this.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you do. I'll bet you do, because, come
Speaker 1: to find out, there was multiple inappropriate situations at Harvard
Speaker 1: that they were already getting ready to review him about.
Speaker 1: And was this from faculty members? Was this from I
Speaker 1: forget what it's called. Whenever you're like going for your
Speaker 1: masters and you're teaching a class at the college and
Speaker 1: you're still technically a student, but you're also working there.
Speaker 1: I forget what the officiating term for that is, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. You've seen these people
Speaker 1: or like they have a masters that're going for their
Speaker 1: doctor and so they have to teach a couple of
Speaker 1: courses to get the you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was something like that that he
Speaker 1: had the inappropriate relationships with, or if it was a
Speaker 1: student like actually like a freshman or sophomore student, or
Speaker 1: to what level, but there was already multiple situations of
Speaker 1: him being wildly inappropriate with women that the school was
Speaker 1: already I say the school, the University of Harvard was
Speaker 1: already having issues with him. Now that it's understood that
Speaker 1: there was years worth of connection to Epstein, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: did the quote unquote honorable thing and step down while
Speaker 1: the abmin figures out how deep this shit actually goes.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's that. It's fun things.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's go on to the next one here. Peter
Speaker 1: Teal Raven Lee. You've heard of Peter Teal, have you not?
Speaker 3: I think so. Peter Teal maybe.
Speaker 1: The gay tech mogul Pallenteer PayPal, the reason why JD
Speaker 1: Vance's vice president, you know, did a four party last year.
Speaker 1: But I thought you were so.
Speaker 2: Bad with Yeah, I'm so bad with names.
Speaker 3: I'm so bad with names. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I like recognize the name. But I'm like gonna,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna figure it out. Okay, I'm just look to
Speaker 3: be honest with you. I'm terrible with names. Okay, It's
Speaker 3: never been my strong suit. Now, if you show me
Speaker 3: a picture of face, I'll be like yes. But he's
Speaker 3: just like going out of the box and being like
Speaker 3: this person. I'm like, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: He's got a very rememberable face, you know. And he's
Speaker 1: also aggressively autistic, as most of the Silicon Valley tech
Speaker 1: bros are. They all seem to be that way. It's
Speaker 1: it's like I think it's a requirement, like you have
Speaker 1: to be violently autistic. It's great like Elon, Peter til
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. What's that other fuck?
Speaker 3: Oh oh that guy Okay, I just looked him up.
Speaker 1: There he is there. It is so for anybody who
Speaker 1: may also be drawing a blank about old Peter Teal,
Speaker 1: he is a openly gay, married to a man tech mogul.
Speaker 1: He created Pallenteer, he created PayPal. He is literally the
Speaker 1: reason why jd Vance is the vice president because remember
Speaker 1: before the election, jd Vance was a never Trumper, hardcore
Speaker 1: fucked that guy, until all of a sudden, his boy
Speaker 1: Peter yoked him up by the collar and was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the guy, but you're gonna need to
Speaker 1: play ball the Trump way for a little while. Next
Speaker 1: thing you know, jd Vance is all about riding that
Speaker 1: Trump train, and Pallenteer was how he got into that
Speaker 1: position in.
Speaker 3: The first place, with little fat cheeks.
Speaker 1: With his fat cheeks now. He also last year released
Speaker 1: a four part series on the Antichrist. He is obsessed
Speaker 1: with finding and talking about the Antichrist, the openly gay guy.
Speaker 1: Which again I'm not saying that that can't make you
Speaker 1: have whatever faith you want. I understand that, I know
Speaker 1: we're all sinners in all, but like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a weird thing to do, just with that being
Speaker 1: another part of your personality that you're so loud and
Speaker 1: proud about. I don't know, I don't know anyway. His
Speaker 1: investment firm accepted forty million dollars from Jeffrey Epstein. So
Speaker 1: there's already a financial connection on the business side of things, right.
Speaker 1: Correspondence between these two continued for at least five years
Speaker 1: before Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide over two thousand or yeah,
Speaker 1: two two hundred times. Peter Teele's name is mentioned in
Speaker 1: these released Epstein files. Now, I understand that people are
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, yeah, because it was for business purposes, right,
Speaker 1: So over five years they emailed twenty two hundred times
Speaker 1: and they were investing in this kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. If it's a known pedophile,
Speaker 1: why would you invest with him, Like your morals should
Speaker 1: step up and say, hey, wait a minute, that's not
Speaker 1: a good idea.
Speaker 3: They just don't give a shit.
Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. So again, he was a confirmed
Speaker 1: piece of shit, and Peter Thiel's company still felt confident
Speaker 1: enough to invest forty million dollars with him. But okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, he made multiple trips to the Manhattan residents
Speaker 1: as well as the island. How do we know this,
Speaker 1: you might ask, Well, because he has a very strict
Speaker 1: dietary thing going on. He's got a list of things
Speaker 1: of what he does and doesn't eat, very very specific.
Speaker 1: These dietary restrictions were laid out in depth for multiple
Speaker 1: trips to the Manhattan quote unquote apartment and to the island.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm sorry, Peter Teal raging piece of shit.
Speaker 1: I can't confirm if he's a pedophile or not, but
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna assume that it's very very very likely.
Speaker 3: So there we are actually positive I saw his name
Speaker 3: in some of the emails when I was doing the
Speaker 3: research on the food stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did. I'm positive you did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I spelled it wrong too, I was trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to spell his name. It's th h I
Speaker 2: E L t I E L yes, correct, yes, for
Speaker 2: those that are wanting to look up who it is.
Speaker 1: So I mean and really and truly, we could spend
Speaker 1: way more time on Peter Teal, honestly, but we don't
Speaker 1: have to. It's kind of one of those things. It's uh.
Speaker 1: The level of conspiracy and controversy surrounding him goes deep,
Speaker 1: aside from his connection with JD. Vance. Even if you
Speaker 1: just look at Palenteer in and of itself, and you
Speaker 1: look at the the Big Brother is watching State that
Speaker 1: we are getting into more and more these days, and
Speaker 1: you look at Trump's connections to Pallateer and how Teal
Speaker 1: is he's one of Trump's rider dies as of this moment. Right,
Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot of conspiratorial conversations that we
Speaker 1: could have about the guy. Then the whole thing about
Speaker 1: him looking for the Antichrist, that's that's like a weird
Speaker 1: side quest, but it also ties into him being a
Speaker 1: really evil motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I mean, his whole thing though, his communications with Musk
Speaker 2: and Bill Gates, I mean then alone should trigger some
Speaker 2: huge red flags if he's that in bed with them already.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he is a part of the group.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, of wanting to pretty much force
Speaker 3: AI down everyone's throat and pretty much like take over
Speaker 3: the world. We could just make it like that if
Speaker 3: you really want to summarize it.
Speaker 1: All pretty much pretty much. So anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to bring up PETERR.
Speaker 2: T Over weird looking due by the way, is right
Speaker 2: he is, Yeah, he is a weird looking dude.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he's a guy, and he's on the list,
Speaker 1: and he's doing horrible shit to children. Obviously, moving on
Speaker 1: to the next name. This is a name that most
Speaker 1: people probably won't know when they first hear it, But
Speaker 1: whenever I start bringing up some things, it's all going
Speaker 1: to tie in here. So Christopher Poole. I didn't know
Speaker 1: the guy's name before I found it, but he's better
Speaker 1: known as Mootot. He's also known as the founder of
Speaker 1: four chan, and he was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein at
Speaker 1: age twenty three years ago. Years ago. This was confirmed
Speaker 1: by emails dating back to twenty eleven from Boris Nicolick.
Speaker 1: Who is Boris Niccolock, you might ask, Bill Gates's scientific advisor?
Speaker 1: Oh god, so again, of course there's connections upon connections here.
Speaker 1: So Billy Gates, old Billiam piece of shit, raging piece
Speaker 1: of shit, gave his wife an STD the whole night.
Speaker 1: We just talked about him last episode.
Speaker 3: Right, No one feels sorry for her.
Speaker 1: Not even a little bit. Not even want everyone.
Speaker 3: To make sure that you still hold the same hatred
Speaker 3: or Bill.
Speaker 2: As you do for Milinda. She knew everything, she knew,
Speaker 2: She fully knew. Say anyway, you all to be there.
Speaker 1: So Bill Gates's science advisor, Boris Niccolick. Nicolic I might
Speaker 1: be mispronouncing I'm sorry, I speaking American English boilers right. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this guy, he introduces Christopher Poole aka Moot, to Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein in twenty eleven, he was twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: There was also secret travel plans for Moot to Seattle
Speaker 1: through the Bill Gates Network. So with nothing else, with
Speaker 1: nothing else to go on except those facts, right there,
Speaker 1: we got this twenty three year old dude who decided
Speaker 1: to create something that's now known as four Chan, which
Speaker 1: anybody who knows anything about the q Andon conspiracy in
Speaker 1: the anonymous community and all these things, it all started
Speaker 1: from four Chan, right. It's a forum and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of wild shit there. There's a lot of funny
Speaker 1: shit there, everything in between. It's pretty much where the
Speaker 1: Internet goes to die, essentially. So this dude created it,
Speaker 1: and I think that it was understood that he would
Speaker 1: be a very important player to bring into Jeffrey Epstein's fold.
Speaker 1: So at twenty three years old, they make a private
Speaker 1: secret trip to Seattle and there I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: they put him through his verification siation. Yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: to make sure that he's, you know, one of them,
Speaker 1: that he gets it and all that you know, and
Speaker 1: so cut to Jeffrey Epstein was looking up five nights
Speaker 1: at Freddy porn. Remember we talked about this on what
Speaker 1: website was it? Four Chan, which is the reason allegedly
Speaker 1: why he was kicked off of the Xbox Live server
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, Microsoft. All that, Yeah, and all of this
Speaker 1: to tie together to the fact that Jeffrey Epstein's Fortnite
Speaker 1: account was still running two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: He is alive. I believe he Everyone believes he's alive. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: have you seen the picture of him?
Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of pictures that very well could
Speaker 1: be him. But that's the thing too, I don't I
Speaker 1: haven't like done a deep dive into I saw one
Speaker 1: when he had a big ass beard and you have
Speaker 1: long hair.
Speaker 3: I saw one like long, shaggy hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw another one where it looked like he
Speaker 1: was sitting at a cafe and it looks like his regular,
Speaker 1: clean cut self. Because of the day and age that
Speaker 1: we live in, with the the age of information and
Speaker 1: the age of disinformation, plus AI being what it is,
Speaker 1: I feel like there are real pictures of him that
Speaker 1: are out, but the Internet's being flooded with so many
Speaker 1: pictures that are false too, as a way to dissuade
Speaker 1: people from the real ones. But yeah, I do believe
Speaker 1: he's absolutely alive for sure.
Speaker 2: Man, I must have really pissed off somebody high up
Speaker 2: in the government, because man, my computer, once I start
Speaker 2: reading something on pages about Epstein, I get like halfway
Speaker 2: down and it's like, Nope, application not found, user unavailable.
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, it do be like that, honestly.
Speaker 1: Hm.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's verifying my browser and it keeps knocking me
Speaker 2: out of everything.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I don't share about it anyway. So
Speaker 1: let's go on to the next name here and again,
Speaker 1: Christopher Poole. There's tons of things you can look into
Speaker 1: with him. But if nothing else, the four Chan connection,
Speaker 1: which does tie back into not only meeting Epstein in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, after he was already confirmed known to be
Speaker 1: a child sex trafficker and all of the things. Now,
Speaker 1: this kid was twenty three. Maybe he wasn't like in
Speaker 1: the know when he's I don't think so, I'm be
Speaker 1: honest with you.
Speaker 2: Maybe he felt bad for all the ship and he
Speaker 2: was trying to drop the information and let people link
Speaker 2: it together.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's secretly cue.
Speaker 2: Man trying to drop information about the the Satanic occult crap,
Speaker 2: and he's like, you know what, they forced me into this,
Speaker 2: here's the back door.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe in the beginning when Q was like
Speaker 1: actually telling some.
Speaker 3: Series, when he was actually you know, a good thing,
Speaker 3: maybe that's when he was actually the person.
Speaker 1: These days, that's oh my god, that's and that's a society. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to shit on anybody who really believed
Speaker 1: in those Q drops and stuff like we all did
Speaker 1: at one point. We all did, and that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: But listen, y'all, hey, can we can we have a
Speaker 1: talk real quick.
Speaker 3: I did believe in some of them back in the day,
Speaker 3: so did I.
Speaker 1: But when it gets to a point to where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's really why the war in Ukraine took off,
Speaker 1: is because Putin was trying to save those kids and
Speaker 1: those underground bunkers from going to Epstein Island, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm I'm hoping that while we go deep
Speaker 1: into these rabbit holes, we come up for air every
Speaker 1: now and then and we check our surroundings and we
Speaker 1: look around and be like, okay, am I still am
Speaker 1: I still on the same path I need to be
Speaker 1: on now, or have I gone so deep down that
Speaker 1: everything sounds like it's everything at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: just like throwing out that Putin and Jijiping and Kim
Speaker 1: Jong are all in cahoots with Trump and that one
Speaker 1: day the white hats are gonna rule and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be these military tribunals and all of these congressmen are
Speaker 1: gonna secretly get brought to Guantanamo Bay and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be hung like wait, hung like with a noose, like
Speaker 1: we're living in the Civil War. Yep. They're gonna be hung,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be replaced by clones of themselves. And
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, let's pump the brakes here, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let's come up for air, regrasp reality,
Speaker 1: and then redive down that rabbit hole with a correct perspective.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I feel like way too many
Speaker 1: people went way too deep with it.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 2: A lot of people did go really deep with it,
Speaker 2: I mean, but at one point they were sharing a
Speaker 2: lot of information that most people, including myself, knew some of.
Speaker 3: But I mean I.
Speaker 2: Heard about it from my friend that pretty much blackpilled me.
Speaker 2: And she was like, have you heard about this thing?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And so we started reading it, and even then though,
Speaker 2: I took it with a grain of salt because I
Speaker 2: was like, how do you know if we're going to
Speaker 2: believe that everything is a lie, how do we know
Speaker 2: this isn't a lie?
Speaker 3: Too? And she definitely was.
Speaker 2: A lot more of a very strict believer than I was.
Speaker 3: I was more hesitant when it came to stuff.
Speaker 2: I was like, huh, okay, yeah, I mean, at least
Speaker 2: it's making people think and want to question things.
Speaker 3: I'm down for that.
Speaker 2: So do you have a Zuckerberg connection with Epstein?
Speaker 1: I don't know on this one, but if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, we can go there.
Speaker 2: So well, because I was just about to close out
Speaker 2: of the Hoffman one and I just happened to see that.
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, there's an email from Epstein mentioning at
Speaker 2: dinner that Hoffman hosted at.
Speaker 3: Paolo a Top Alto Alto Yeah, Hello, Alto. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So attended was Zuckerberg, musk feel and MIT neuroscientist Ed
Speaker 2: Biden Boyden Boyden. Hoffman connected Zuckerberg to Epstein via email
Speaker 2: after this event, and the responses went back and forth
Speaker 2: until twenty nineteen about meta and about all sorts of stuff,
Speaker 2: and so it says that Zuckerberg didn't really communicate with
Speaker 2: him very much, but that they did have communication.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just saw something a post on one of
Speaker 1: the socials today talking about how Zuckerberg felt so bad
Speaker 1: and regretted ever talking to him, and this, this and this,
Speaker 1: and it's like once again, but sorry if it was
Speaker 1: after eight and even then, Zuckerberg was in the mix.
Speaker 1: He was in the mix, and he knew what the
Speaker 1: shitheads were doing.
Speaker 3: Even better wealthy his person.
Speaker 2: There's no way that he's and Hoffmann was referred to
Speaker 2: as a very close friend multiple times by Epstein. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that they had uh that they missed, that he
Speaker 2: missed talking and seeing him over and over again.
Speaker 1: That's my point. You can't claim the ignorance cards though
Speaker 1: I can't believe I ever all fourteen exactly the fuck
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 2: Here, dude, Like they know all about this. They all
Speaker 2: inter linked and they had a big dinner together. So
Speaker 2: I guess Musk finally got to meet you know, got
Speaker 2: to hang out with him after.
Speaker 3: All that time of being shunned, well he.
Speaker 1: Got to hang out. But he was never brought to
Speaker 1: the island because no way, dude like that. They didn't
Speaker 1: like him. He was too weird. Zuckerberg and theel how
Speaker 1: are you got their connection?
Speaker 3: How are you too weird for the crazy psycho satanic
Speaker 3: cult eating babies, raping children? Dude, how are you that weird?
Speaker 1: Because he is that aggressively autistic.
Speaker 3: There's just no way that he can be that fucking
Speaker 3: weird like he can't. He looks like he smells funny.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 3: You know what, we're probably getting listened to. Fuck you Elon,
Speaker 3: I'm going hope you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's a reason why Trump
Speaker 1: never like wanted him to be around him for too long.
Speaker 1: They would do the little Cameron appearances and then they
Speaker 1: would go their separate ways.
Speaker 3: I think they had a whole romance though.
Speaker 1: But did they or was that a for cameras hear
Speaker 1: me out, hear me out?
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 2: I think it was a bromance. I think it was
Speaker 2: a whole situation of money and power.
Speaker 1: Money and power, yes, but not a true bromance. Biden
Speaker 1: and Obama. And I do mean the real Biden, not
Speaker 1: the clone that was in the office for a couple
Speaker 1: of years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a bromance.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden actual and Barack Obama had a real bromance.
Speaker 1: They were boys, they were homies.
Speaker 3: I don't don't think Trump has any friends exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't think that Elon and Trump had a real bromance.
Speaker 1: I think that they kind of did a thing for
Speaker 1: the cameras when they were rolling, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it was I don't think they were actually friends.
Speaker 2: I don't think Trump has a single friend this entire world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 3: I think he's his own friend.
Speaker 2: I think maybe his children like him.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing to eric.
Speaker 2: I think some of his some of his children like him.
Speaker 2: Let me say that, I think so some of his
Speaker 2: children like him.
Speaker 1: His kids seem cool. I'm gonna be honest, like they
Speaker 1: I don't know about better.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm sure they definitely have done some heinous shit too.
Speaker 1: Probably, but I mean just in interviews and shit like.
Speaker 1: Trump has a weird mindset towards things. And I mean,
Speaker 1: granted for doing what he does for as long as
Speaker 1: he has, he he knows that he is the greatest
Speaker 1: thing on earth and you're welcome for his five seconds
Speaker 1: of time for this interview. Yeah right, But like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Eric doesn't seem that way. Don Junior doesn't seem that
Speaker 1: way at least, and I know they probably act.
Speaker 3: Well I did, but now I'm questioning everything.
Speaker 1: But my point is you could see them in interviews.
Speaker 1: They seem personable. They actually have a personality, not just yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we're great. The Trump Family's just great and everything's great
Speaker 1: and fuck you and we're great. They don't have that.
Speaker 1: They seem at least like human beings, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Trump. On the other hand, Donnie t He your boy
Speaker 1: was mentioned how many times, thousands of the times in
Speaker 1: Epstein files. I haven't looked into her yet. I haven't
Speaker 1: looked into hers coming of times.
Speaker 3: So like, we're not gonna just skate by that way. No, Nope,
Speaker 3: she was mentioned. She was mentioned a lot. We're gonna
Speaker 3: go through them.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I don't have a cool, fancy app or
Speaker 2: AI to help me out, so I'm just clicking one by.
Speaker 3: One, y'all, and it's it takes a lot of time.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you and it's like trying
Speaker 2: to decipher this whole code that you're trying to pick
Speaker 2: up on. And I'm hoping that other people that can
Speaker 2: get the cheat sheets for me because some of it
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, huhm okay, But if you look
Speaker 2: at it in a skeptical lens, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: pretty easy to see that everything's full of shit.
Speaker 1: So it's it's really fucked up, but you're correct, all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next name. Here, we talked about
Speaker 1: old Christopher Pool aka Moot of four chan. Now moving
Speaker 1: on Casey Wasserman. Wasserman, I don't know if I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: it right, doesn't matter here. He is the CEO of
Speaker 1: Wasserman Media Group. He's also head of the LA Olympics
Speaker 1: Organizing Committee. Okay, big dog.
Speaker 3: Big was waiting for the Olympics to come in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know where. And we're not going to
Speaker 1: talk about the crazy symbolism of the Olympics right now,
Speaker 1: although we we should be doing an episode on that
Speaker 1: here too. Why not, right we we?
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll kick it in there because you know,
Speaker 2: we need to break from Epstein every once in a while.
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody else needs one too.
Speaker 1: Why are people like that. We saw what happened in Paris,
Speaker 1: We saw the symbolism. We saw that they are going
Speaker 1: out of their way to shit on biblical symbology, right,
Speaker 1: that they're going out of the way to do it.
Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden they're lighting a flaming
Speaker 1: pentagram and people are like, oh, did you see that.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, it's not going to get better, y'all,
Speaker 1: It's going to consistently get worse. Which also, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna bring up the whole ski jumper situation now, will
Speaker 1: be dropping a post about that here soon. But it's
Speaker 1: like they're gonna just get to the point to where
Speaker 1: they're overtly like pissing on a cross or something, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, having the trans Last Supper I felt like
Speaker 1: was a really big slap to the face. But enough
Speaker 1: people weren't objectively just losing their ship about that one.
Speaker 1: So they're they're stepping it up and they're gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing so to the point where people are like, maybe
Speaker 1: we should just not watch the Olympics anymore, which, first
Speaker 1: of all, yeah, it's ship.
Speaker 3: I love the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Back off whatever, dide I'm over it.
Speaker 3: I love the Olympics. It's winter. It's Winter Olympics right now.
Speaker 1: I know those are the worst ones aside from hockey
Speaker 1: and snow.
Speaker 3: Love curling, ice skiating.
Speaker 1: Bro okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, fuck the ice skating. Fuck
Speaker 1: the ice skating.
Speaker 3: Just to bring the curling in. No, but okay, I
Speaker 3: love ice skating.
Speaker 1: I know you do, and I know your reasons for it.
Speaker 1: But if I wanted to watch ice skating be done
Speaker 1: in an artistic fashion, I would watch the NHL. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have hockey. We don't need the Olympics.
Speaker 3: A watch hockey for different reasons than you.
Speaker 1: And the snowboarding, we don't need the Olympics. We have
Speaker 1: the X Games, like we have the technology, So just
Speaker 1: throwing that out. But but the curling thing, that is
Speaker 1: it's entertaining to watch for all about fifteen minutes. That
Speaker 1: is the most useless pudo sport in the American All
Speaker 1: of the teams they look like somebody's dad group. They
Speaker 1: got lost and just showed up here and.
Speaker 3: They're just like, fucking I love it, Okay, I love it.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: What about uh, what about the thingy with the like
Speaker 2: jump on the board and they have to like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but have you watched this slow version of the of
Speaker 2: Old Girl?
Speaker 1: No? I haven't seen the slow mo version of Old Girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a reason why a lot of people
Speaker 3: watch that tune into that time.
Speaker 1: But there's no. No, that's that's silly. That's silly. They're
Speaker 1: watching it to watch an ass bounce on a single
Speaker 1: man toboggan.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's who they are.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, whatever, No, that's why. That's what's this is.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do you like beach volleyball too? But
Speaker 3: I like the Winter Olympics. I like all the Olympics.
Speaker 1: I am happy that they are starting a Olympics where
Speaker 1: they're allowed to just do all the drugs they want.
Speaker 1: That makes me happy because the clean Olympics is getting
Speaker 1: more and more boring by the day. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: very honest with you. It's just it's one of those things,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm I don't know the Winter Olympics. And
Speaker 1: I've said this a million times and I stand by it.
Speaker 1: It's thirty four different ways of sliding. It is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's cool. But back to what I was saying,
Speaker 1: as far as the symbolism goes and stuff, I'm not
Speaker 1: this didn't like just break my whole soul, because I
Speaker 1: already know what the Olympics are about. They've been they
Speaker 1: have been open for years with all the symbols that
Speaker 1: they do about how all this is some big occult
Speaker 1: ritual and all of these things. So when people are
Speaker 1: losing their minds that they're watching a flaming pentagram, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's only going to get worse. Like they're not gonna
Speaker 1: like see the error of their ways and like tone
Speaker 1: it back a bit. They're only going to ramp it
Speaker 1: up as time goes on, because that's that's what these
Speaker 1: people do. So I don't know, maybe I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at things in my own weird lens here, but yeah,
Speaker 1: all the stuff the Olympics going on, this boy Casey
Speaker 1: Wasserman Wesserman, I don't know how I pronounce his fucking name,
Speaker 1: head of the LA Olympics Organizing Committee. Emails exchanged between
Speaker 1: hold on what the hell did I right here? Oh? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Emails exchange between Wasserman and just lame Maxwell as far
Speaker 1: back as two thousand and three, being how could I
Speaker 1: put this flirty is an understatement. Wasserman was trying to
Speaker 1: fuck Maxwell. That's the only way I could really put this.
Speaker 1: She was talking about, Oh, I'll be flying in on
Speaker 1: this date. I'll be wearing a leather flight suit. And
Speaker 1: he's like, what do I have to do to see
Speaker 1: you in a leather flight suit? It's like, bro huh?
Speaker 1: And that was back in two thousand and three, So
Speaker 1: again the whole Oh well, maybe he could claim ignorance. No, no,
Speaker 1: you're not trying you're not trying to smash just lame
Speaker 1: Maxwell without knowing who she's affiliated with and all the things.
Speaker 1: So there's another connection. And apparently they had emails going back,
Speaker 1: like I said, to two thousand and three, all the
Speaker 1: way up until like a few month before Epstein got
Speaker 1: got So now I wanted to bring up the last
Speaker 1: name on this episode, at least of the deep dive
Speaker 1: that I did, and that we might bring up a
Speaker 1: few more after this. Who knows Brett Ratner? Now? Who
Speaker 1: is Brett Ratner? You might ask, Well, he's a Hollywood type.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a whole slew of sexual misconduct
Speaker 1: by six different women that he was accused of in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and he was photographed with Jeffrey Epstein. But
Speaker 1: you might know his name, not only because the Epstein
Speaker 1: files just got dropped, but because he is the one
Speaker 1: that directed the Milania movie, which I don't understand. The
Speaker 1: whole Millennia movie game.
Speaker 3: Awkward.
Speaker 1: It's very awkward. And why does Malania need a movie?
Speaker 1: Why do first ladies need a movie? They're the they're
Speaker 1: the first lady. They're the wife. They do wife shit.
Speaker 1: They're not out here in acting change. They're not they're
Speaker 1: not passing legislation. They're not holding down on the home
Speaker 1: front for the a wife. The wife, they do the
Speaker 1: smile and the waving thing. But okay, sure, I got
Speaker 1: a quick clip here, and this, uh, this article I
Speaker 1: have is from the Dailybeast dot com. Let's let's watch
Speaker 1: the teaser for the Milania movie, because maybe maybe I'm
Speaker 1: being a little presumptuous, maybe I'm being a little harsh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe this movie will be an absolute banger.
Speaker 1: Let's check it out together. Cult members, here we go again.
Speaker 1: You can come in, don't one of them.
Speaker 3: I protest, will be that peace.
Speaker 1: Beautiful together, we'd like minded leaders.
Speaker 5: We have a voice.
Speaker 3: Is it safe through?
Speaker 4: Sure? Everyone wants to know.
Speaker 3: So here it is.
Speaker 1: Hi, mister President, congratulations, I did not Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: see it on the news. Okay, So once again, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm missing it.
Speaker 3: But the form to be fair, though, that dress was fire.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, sure, But the former playboy Bunny who had
Speaker 1: a whole centerfold spread of her now has a movie
Speaker 1: about becoming the first lady? Did I miss something? When
Speaker 1: did that become relevant? When did she become like a
Speaker 1: thing we should focus on?
Speaker 2: I mean, all of the wives have been relevant in
Speaker 2: some sense or form, like they've done they've you know,
Speaker 2: done things and been talked about and even good old
Speaker 2: Big Mike.
Speaker 1: Big lunch thing. Yeah, and look how that turns, you know.
Speaker 3: And and well I'm just saying that they've they do stuff,
Speaker 3: quote unquote, And.
Speaker 1: So I understand there's been something. I understand. There are
Speaker 1: some first ladies who have stood out, for sure. Jackie
Speaker 1: O is one of them, right. Nancy Reagan uh Killery
Speaker 1: never stood out as first lady other than being a
Speaker 1: beta to to Monica Lewinsky.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Laura Bush certainly did not stand out. Uh. Big Mike
Speaker 1: stood out because she tried an acting change with nothing
Speaker 1: to back up anything. That she was doing, but she
Speaker 1: was manlier than her husband, So like, take that for
Speaker 1: what it is. There have been some first ladies that
Speaker 1: stood out, for sure, but more of a cultural icon
Speaker 1: kind of thing, right. Nancy Reagan may have made her
Speaker 1: statement with the whole te all my young friends out
Speaker 1: there when it comes to drugs, just say now, But
Speaker 1: she didn't like enact some sort of a legal thing, right,
Speaker 1: And I guess you could say Lady Birg Johnson and
Speaker 1: Jackie Oh, and I see these, but they were more
Speaker 1: of a cultural thing. Big Mike is the exception because
Speaker 1: she tried actually enacting some sort of a change with
Speaker 1: no legal backing to push or whatsoever, although she was
Speaker 1: manlier than her husband. Fine, I get that, but again,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be more of a cultural thing. It's
Speaker 1: like the Queen of England, like they don't, we don't
Speaker 1: look to her to enact change. She's the icon of
Speaker 1: England kind of thing. The first lady's supposed to be
Speaker 1: the icon America's mom, if you will. So I don't
Speaker 1: know why this producer, this director decided to like throw
Speaker 1: in on this one. But let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: deeper here, because Brett Ratner come to find out has
Speaker 1: a lot of Epstein connections and we have pictures to verify.
Speaker 1: Once again, good cult members. If you want to see
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, go to patreon dot com slash
Speaker 1: Cult a conspiracy podcast because we do have the pictures
Speaker 1: that we're going to be showing. So Milania, director Malania
Speaker 1: be in the movie, not the person. Director Brett Radner
Speaker 1: was pictured cozying up to Jeffrey Epstein in newly released
Speaker 1: photos published by the Department of Justice. In a previous
Speaker 1: document dump, Ratner was shown hugging Jean Luke Brunnell, one
Speaker 1: of Epstein's associates, accuse us applying girls to the late
Speaker 1: sex trafficker and others because she did. This photo was
Speaker 1: included in the fifteen thumbnails depicting Ratner released by the
Speaker 1: DOJ as part of more than three million Epstein files
Speaker 1: released on Friday. So I'm gonna zoom in here and
Speaker 1: some of these pictures are not the clearest, but don't worry.
Speaker 1: They get they get blown up when we get down further.
Speaker 1: Brett Ratner, Jeffrey Epstein an unidentified females in photos released
Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice. The director fifty six is
Speaker 1: one of many high profile figures featured in the Epstein Files.
Speaker 1: Other notable figures in the documents include former President Bill Clinton,
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone front man Mick Jagger, ex Prince Andrew, and
Speaker 1: Microsoft co founder Bill Gates. I did not look up
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger in the Epstein Files for this episode. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: he will be coming.
Speaker 3: I never liked him, really. He has always creeped me out,
Speaker 3: and I've always felt like he was an evil son
Speaker 3: of a bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's also been Even his bandmates will tell
Speaker 1: you that he's been into young boys for years and
Speaker 1: years and years. The whole thing about how he had
Speaker 1: women crawling all over him, that was all afront. Like,
Speaker 1: it's understood that he's been into boys.
Speaker 3: He's always been creepy. He's always creeped me out. There's
Speaker 3: something about the way that he just is in general,
Speaker 3: the way he looks at you. It's no, no.
Speaker 2: It just makes my skin crawl on it. I've always
Speaker 2: felt like that this is and people like EMM Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love him so much.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 1: You know, I like the Stones some of their songs
Speaker 1: for sure, but it's not like I'm a huge Mick
Speaker 1: Jagger fan and of themselves, you know, anyway, So those
Speaker 1: included in the files have not necessarily been implicated in
Speaker 1: or convicted of crimes. Many people linked to Epstein have
Speaker 1: previously denied any wrongdoing. You know, it's hard to do
Speaker 1: whenever we have redactive photos of you snuggling up to
Speaker 1: underage teenagers. In the images released Friday, Ratner can be
Speaker 1: seen on a sofa, sometimes with Epstein and Brunell, and
Speaker 1: sometimes with three women whose faces have been redacted. When
Speaker 1: they say, women, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: You remember you remember Brunell died of a parent suicide
Speaker 3: facing rape charges. Yeah, in twenty twenty two. I think
Speaker 3: it was. I think so, yeah, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: And again, uh, you tell me these do not look
Speaker 1: like teenagers. I believe they are. And it gets worse
Speaker 1: the further we go down. Honestly, are these are young girls?
Speaker 1: This is Jean Luke Brunell right there. That's your boy,
Speaker 1: and this is the Ratner boy. And you know these
Speaker 1: are the pictures of them with these teenagers. So they
Speaker 1: reached out. The Daily Beach reached out to a representative
Speaker 1: for Ratner for comment. Of course, didn't happen here. The
Speaker 1: photo release comes as Ratner celebrates the release of Milania,
Speaker 1: a pseudo documentary following First Lady Malania's Trump in twenty
Speaker 1: days leading up to her husband's second presidential inauguration. The
Speaker 1: film marked Ratner's return to directing after largely staying out
Speaker 1: of the spotlight for the better part of a decade.
Speaker 1: He is accused or was accused of sexual misconduct by
Speaker 1: six women in twenty seventeen, although he denied the allegations. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, shocker and this is of now, he's kind
Speaker 1: of a fat fuck if you will. Milania has been
Speaker 1: plagued with bad reviews. I wonder why. I wonder why.
Speaker 1: Maybe because it's a really shit concept for a movie.
Speaker 1: But okay, it currently has a six percent rating on
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes. That's hilarious. Now. Granted, I understand that there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some the anti Trump crowd that are gonna
Speaker 1: just shit on it just because, and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but also six percent, that's phenomenal. And criticism of its
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar budget, Ratner defended the price tag
Speaker 1: and called cost complaints silly in an interview with Deadline.
Speaker 2: We spent so they hired him in film this, by
Speaker 2: the way, before the release of the Epstein Files, right
Speaker 2: right this this new batch.
Speaker 1: So he says, we spent more money on music in
Speaker 1: this than I did on Rush Hour. He said, I mean,
Speaker 1: top of the line, three best cinematographers in the world
Speaker 1: at the highest level, eighty people on the first day
Speaker 1: of shooting in my crew. That's not unheard of in
Speaker 1: a documentary. You put the money on screen. Okay, Once again,
Speaker 1: this is a director for Rush Hour. And it's also
Speaker 1: worth mentioning that Chris Tucker is in the Epstein Files,
Speaker 1: and it's understood that he was fucking kids on the
Speaker 1: Island too, So.
Speaker 2: Just saying oh, but that like they knew, like they
Speaker 2: knew of his they could have gotten anyone else, right,
Speaker 2: anybody else to film this, and they filmed this before
Speaker 2: the release, so they knew that they were going to
Speaker 2: release this film with the director that's already been accused
Speaker 2: six times that has associations with Epstein, and his whole
Speaker 2: thing is is that here those pictures were featured twenty
Speaker 2: years ago. Of one of them, it was his supposed fiance,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't want to give her name, and that
Speaker 2: he's never had any interaction before these photos with Jeffrey
Speaker 2: and then never had contact ever again with him after
Speaker 2: that time with those photos, right, that's what he's claiming.
Speaker 2: But yet Trump knew that he did all this, and
Speaker 2: they hired this and he's kicked out of like everyone
Speaker 2: knows that he's blackballed. Yeah, and they still hired him
Speaker 2: to do this. I don't understand, like unless unless old
Speaker 2: Boy had some information or knew where to find some information,
Speaker 2: and maybe he was partying with Milania and Epstein at
Speaker 2: one point and has some hard drives or something with
Speaker 2: her and Epstein and this was his way of being like, look,
Speaker 2: I want back into the Hollywood life, and you will
Speaker 2: do this for me.
Speaker 1: But even still, this is not the movie to work
Speaker 1: your way back into the Hollywood life. And let's say
Speaker 1: it wasn't really I mean.
Speaker 2: But this is this is Trump though, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the first lady, Yeah, so I mean, if no
Speaker 2: one else will take you, and this is your documenting
Speaker 2: like the most two most prominent important people in the
Speaker 2: country right now, I think this is his only shot.
Speaker 2: I think because God is Love said that they had
Speaker 2: on the Live the other day.
Speaker 3: They said that she was.
Speaker 2: Partying with Epstein right before he was she was married
Speaker 2: to Trump.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's true, but it's it's very,
Speaker 1: very possible.
Speaker 3: At this point, I don't doubt it, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: And if if that's the case, what if he was
Speaker 2: there in filming stuff, what if he actually has felt
Speaker 2: like footage.
Speaker 3: That I think she's too old for their flavor profile.
Speaker 1: Maybe back in the day, I.
Speaker 3: Think that she's still too old for their flavor profile.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, no, I.
Speaker 2: Can see them making her do to some degrading ass
Speaker 2: shit though, and putting it on film.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ratner, like back in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you smashed that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think that they probably had to do something
Speaker 2: degrading and they have it on file, and to save face,
Speaker 2: Trump was like, fine, I'll throw money at this just
Speaker 2: to keep you shut, Just keep you quiet.
Speaker 1: I also think it's funny that the director was throwing
Speaker 1: shade at the first lady's grasp of the English language.
Speaker 1: That's fucking hilarious. The director of this movie was like, also,
Speaker 1: she didn't even speak English, dude, come on.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, first off, do you speak multiple languages like,
Speaker 2: don't be a fucking dick.
Speaker 1: First off, yes, and second off, she just paid you
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars for this movie, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: shit on her for not being the best at English.
Speaker 3: Bro, he has something on them.
Speaker 2: He feels really secure with himself in being able to
Speaker 2: treat her however the fuck so.
Speaker 1: Numerous crew members reportedly asked to have their names removed
Speaker 1: from the film, with one telling Roland's Stones that they
Speaker 1: were a little bit uncomfortable with the propaganda element of
Speaker 1: this shocker. Several cited that Rattner, who is best known
Speaker 1: for directing the Rush Hour movies, as a problem on set.
Speaker 1: I wonder why. I wonder if he was trying to
Speaker 1: grab him all by the pussy or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Rattner responded to this criticism during the premiere of Millennia
Speaker 1: on Thursday, direct quote, I understand if a liberal is
Speaker 1: working on the movie and they don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the credits, but they want to feed their family,
Speaker 1: he told Variety in a red carpet interview. I don't
Speaker 1: blame anybody for that. I don't know who didn't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. I wasn't aware of it,
Speaker 1: but I learned about it when I read it. So
Speaker 1: he didn't know that certain members of his staff didn't
Speaker 1: want to be associated with Again, that doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: out loud, right, So anyway, so there's this guy, and
Speaker 1: again you can see the difference here. This was years
Speaker 1: ago as opposed to, Uh, where's he at? This guy?
Speaker 1: Same dude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, about twenty years ago, probably at least, but he
Speaker 2: also continued to have association with him.
Speaker 3: Is that the end of your article?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the Los Angeles Times actually has more on this.
Speaker 2: So among the emails in which Rattner is mentioned, in
Speaker 2: December twenty ten, Epstein discusses a dinner he is having
Speaker 2: at seven point thirty, in which he says that he
Speaker 2: has invited Ratner but he has not yet heard back
Speaker 2: on December tenth, excuse me. On December twenty ten, it
Speaker 2: was widely reported that Epstein hosted a dinner at his
Speaker 2: Manhattan townhouse just months after you finished serving a prison
Speaker 2: sentence and house arrest for soliciting a minor for prostitution.
Speaker 2: The dinner was attended by a number of boldface names,
Speaker 2: including Woody Allen and Andrew Mont. Former Prince Andrew the
Speaker 2: Old Boy. A year later, Epstein's assistant appears to email
Speaker 2: Ratner saying, Jeffrey would like to speak with you regarding redacted.
Speaker 2: Could you please call give us a call. It is
Speaker 2: unclear whether Ratner followed up or not. In another heavily
Speaker 2: redacted email in twenty eighteen, Epstein writes to someone saying, Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm Jeffrey Brett. Retner thought we should meet. He follows
Speaker 2: up with a second email asking whether Retner had spoken
Speaker 2: to this person yet. During the Keynes Kanes Film Festival
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, celebrity super publicists and ambiguous presence on
Speaker 2: this award circuit, Peggy Sigal emailed Epstein that she was
Speaker 2: sitting with Ratner about to watch the Roman Pulasky documentary,
Speaker 2: adding that Brett says high and that he loves you.
Speaker 2: In other gossipy emails Sagal sent to Epstein, she cites
Speaker 2: Retner in her listing in which powers, sorry, power brokers
Speaker 2: and celebrities and attendance are various parties and who are
Speaker 2: staying on whose yachts in Santa Barbara and Ratner, she wrote,
Speaker 2: was staying with his business partner in the Australian billionaire
Speaker 2: James Packer. Sigall's relationship with the convicted pedophile came under
Speaker 2: renewed scrutiny in twenty nineteen after Epstein was arrested on
Speaker 2: sex trafficking charges, particular as she helped facilitate his return
Speaker 2: to society following his prison sentence. Had I known that
Speaker 2: he had been accused of abusing underage girls, I would
Speaker 2: have never maintained the friendship with him.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, The Reporter, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So again he was a confirmed pedophile by all measures
Speaker 1: in Oh wait, there's no question about anything beyond that
Speaker 1: point a decade later. If I had known, I would
Speaker 1: have never shut the fuck up. Dude.
Speaker 2: Well, she was bumping, you know, elbows with everybody in
Speaker 2: the high life. Rattner was also mentioned many times with
Speaker 2: hers uh in all the different emails. On November one,
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, the Day of the Times published its investigation
Speaker 2: in which six women accused Retner of sexual misconduct. Epstein
Speaker 2: emailed lawyer readin Gartner. Yeah that's what he emailed. His
Speaker 2: read his lawyer, okay, so that's okay. And then Rhetner's
Speaker 2: career was derailed. Nine years ago, after The Times published
Speaker 2: detailed allegations against the director made by multiple women who
Speaker 2: accused him of harassment, groping and forced oral sex. Actor
Speaker 2: Olivia Munn claimed that Retner masturbated in front of her
Speaker 2: when she delivered a meal to his trailer on the
Speaker 2: set of two thousand and four film After the Sunset.
Speaker 3: At the time, the.
Speaker 2: Director's attorney, Martin rejected the women's claims, saying that his
Speaker 2: client vehemently denies the outrageous, degrading allegations that have been
Speaker 2: reported against him. Reetner's agents at the wm WM dropped
Speaker 2: him and did and so did his publicist. All the
Speaker 2: projects were ceased. He lost everything pretty much and so
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, Ratner became embroiled in another Hollywood sex
Speaker 2: scannel involving a British actor, Charlotte Kirk Cutz That's interesting
Speaker 2: another Kirk sworn in Aswarren court declaration. Kirk said that
Speaker 2: she was victimized by the then Warner Brothers chief executive
Speaker 2: Kevin Ratner Packer and Millennium Films CEO Avy Lerner, stating
Speaker 2: that Abby sorry, stating that the men coursed her into
Speaker 2: engaging and commercial sex for them and their business associates.
Speaker 1: Commercial sex. You mean they were paying you to fuck? Okay,
Speaker 1: got you?
Speaker 2: Singer who represented the men categorily and vinimently denied the
Speaker 2: wrongdoing on all the clients' charges.
Speaker 3: So pretty much he's paid to do. Yeah, so pretty much.
Speaker 3: They He has been heavily associated with Epstein for many
Speaker 3: years and many different times he is mentioned even by
Speaker 3: different associates. And again, yet that try hired him.
Speaker 1: That blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Trump hired him, Like there is his wife. There's just
Speaker 3: no way that they aren't all connected.
Speaker 2: And everyone's like even the look, even the mega Trumpers
Speaker 2: at this point should be seriously questioning this, like this
Speaker 2: has been known like everybody. And Trump has admitted many
Speaker 2: times that he reads the papers. He reads the newspapers
Speaker 2: front two back, he reads the Times, so you know
Speaker 2: he read this. Anybody with anybody knows that. Come on, now,
Speaker 2: his entire staff is gonna vet whoever is near his wife.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me that you chose a man that
Speaker 2: had six allegations against him, that has a deep history
Speaker 2: with Epstein, that has been fit, that has been pictured
Speaker 2: with Epstein multiple times throughout like what almost two decades. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you choose this person to make this film about
Speaker 2: your wife and now it's coming out.
Speaker 3: After that they drop the DOJ files, like, and then you.
Speaker 1: Pay him seventy five million dollars to do so.
Speaker 3: I can't like this is this is hilarious. They really do.
Speaker 3: But they really do believe that we are this stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. I mean the same thing with the
Speaker 1: Trump and Epstein connection in and of itself, right, And
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that I still ride Trump's
Speaker 1: dick for some reason. I don't. I think that he's
Speaker 1: a better fit than old Kamala. I still I'm very
Speaker 1: comfortable with that stance. I don't. I don't believe Kamala
Speaker 1: was capable of like knocking herself out of a wet
Speaker 1: paper bag. So like, it's fine, it's fine, but hear
Speaker 1: me out. Trump and Epstein knew each other from the eighties.
Speaker 1: They knew each other in the nineties. They had that
Speaker 1: big party that Trump threw for those talent scouts. Literally
Speaker 1: was just Epstein and his homeboy. But remember at that time,
Speaker 1: Epstein was still seen as a talent scout for Victoria's
Speaker 1: secret quote unquote all that dumb shit. But they cut
Speaker 1: ties in the early two thousands. Complete horseshit, complete horseshit.
Speaker 1: We know that, we know that for a fact, and
Speaker 1: they're still acting like the public is gonna accept that
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, you're right, Donald, you
Speaker 1: did cut ties with him when you found out he
Speaker 1: was horrible. Never mind, what about his birthday card, the
Speaker 1: birthday card, well, even the birthday, let's say that that's fake.
Speaker 2: Say it's fake, Oh, sypathetically, what about all the pictures
Speaker 2: of them together, all in the place, him going to
Speaker 2: mar A Largo, Like they have.
Speaker 3: So much connections.
Speaker 2: You can't tell me, with Trump being in finances like
Speaker 2: he was and everything else, that they're going to be
Speaker 2: in the same cities, they're going to be doing the
Speaker 2: same shit all over the place.
Speaker 3: That they aren't gonna be friends. There's no way or.
Speaker 1: At least know each other. They roll in very similar circles.
Speaker 1: Right before politics, y'all take away when Trump decided to
Speaker 1: throw his hat into the ring to become president. Before that,
Speaker 1: he was the greaseball businessman, big time financier, big time
Speaker 1: real estate dude for New York City. Okay, high high
Speaker 1: levels of money going in and out. Jeffrey Epstein was
Speaker 1: the money laundering dude on the planet, the kingpin of it.
Speaker 1: Some might say, so we know for sure that Trump
Speaker 1: and him at least had business dealings to move a
Speaker 1: little bit of money from point A to point B.
Speaker 1: Could it be perhaps Raven Lee? Remember whenever Trump was
Speaker 1: in office the first go round, and they just want
Speaker 1: to see his tax records. They just needed to see
Speaker 1: the tax records. It was the Russian collusion, it was
Speaker 1: the Koffe, it was all this. They were looking at
Speaker 1: the right thing, but in the wrong context. Yes, do
Speaker 1: you need to see what's going on with his tax records? Okay,
Speaker 1: I hear you. You're not looking for Russian collusion. You
Speaker 1: should be looking for the pedophile ring and the leader
Speaker 1: of it that Trump was sending money to for the
Speaker 1: same reasons, the same reasons we talked about Leon Black,
Speaker 1: same reasons we talked about Wester All these people that
Speaker 1: were using Jeffrey Epstein to make their taxes look good,
Speaker 1: that's what Trump used them for. And then of course
Speaker 1: on the side they used to get drunk and bang
Speaker 1: some some you know, youngster did some young twenty year olds,
Speaker 1: some teenagers, who knows, who knows? I w wasn't there,
Speaker 1: but My point is that was a side thing. If
Speaker 1: Trump wanted to find some underage girl, he could have
Speaker 1: bought it. He didn't need Epstein for that. He needed
Speaker 1: Epstein to make money disappear. Now I've yeah, birds of
Speaker 1: a feather.
Speaker 2: Fly or did he really Did he really need him though,
Speaker 2: because I think Trump could honestly make my disappear without him.
Speaker 3: He didn't really need him.
Speaker 1: I think I think they were.
Speaker 3: I think they were competing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think that they were competitors. Real ship could be.
Speaker 2: They both were such smart financial people.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 2: But Trump was making on his own status, like he
Speaker 2: didn't need to be backed by good old Wex.
Speaker 3: He made his own money. But I think that.
Speaker 1: I think that money up because he did real estate
Speaker 1: and construction stuff. Epstein was a complete finance guy. Trump
Speaker 1: might have had some hedge funds, but he wasn't like
Speaker 1: a finance guy.
Speaker 2: He wasn't ahead Epstein started to But Epstein started to
Speaker 2: do real estate as well.
Speaker 3: Though he was he was moving real estate.
Speaker 1: With Wex's money, with.
Speaker 3: Wex's money, so he needed somebody that knew something.
Speaker 2: But also if he started to grow too big for
Speaker 2: his breches, he would overlap into Trump's world, and so
Speaker 2: I think I think that they were one of those
Speaker 2: scenes of keep my enemy closer vibes. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they were friends.
Speaker 3: Obviously they both love women and to degrade them, and
Speaker 3: I think that that was their whole stick anyways. But
Speaker 3: that being said, I think that they were competitors in
Speaker 3: the sense of who got what, and I think that
Speaker 3: they were frenemies and that they moved in the same
Speaker 3: circles because it was forced upon them. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: assuming they probably were friends as well in some sense
Speaker 3: of like, you know, buddy, Buddy is like, hey man,
Speaker 3: you know, let's let's cut deals.
Speaker 2: Let's do this, you know, same kind of thing that
Speaker 2: all the big financial you know, all the big people do.
Speaker 3: But I don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of thinking out loud of like why,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously they liked to degrade women. Obviously they
Speaker 2: could produce, you know, get as many women as they wanted.
Speaker 2: It would be easier for Jeff to get them. But
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting though that some of the emails
Speaker 2: that did come out at the first drop were between
Speaker 2: this guy and I cannot, for the life of meal
Speaker 2: have to look for him.
Speaker 3: Was between this guy and Jeff and they.
Speaker 2: Were trying to get dirt on Trump and they were
Speaker 2: trying to like get him in something like get him.
Speaker 2: Nobody is close to Trump, nobody's you know. It was
Speaker 2: all about trying to get Trump and get dirt on him.
Speaker 2: So I'm not trust me. I am not saying Trump's
Speaker 2: clean in any of this whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I am saying.
Speaker 2: I am saying, though, that I believe this is an
Speaker 2: enemy situation of wh're trying to get information from him
Speaker 2: because he's my friend of me and I want to
Speaker 2: have a leg up on him. I do believe that
Speaker 2: Trump is smarter than Bean Epstein. And though he has
Speaker 2: photos and all of this stuff, is there any I
Speaker 2: haven't seen personally? Is there any actual information between the
Speaker 2: two of them that's like concrete Trump was raping girls
Speaker 2: with Epstein? No, I can't not that I've seen so far. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe somebody else has seen something else and I've just
Speaker 2: missed it in the freaking a million different things that
Speaker 2: we're looking at. But as of right now, I haven't
Speaker 2: seen that hardcore. So maybe Epstein wasn't able to actually
Speaker 2: get him tied up in the way he wanted to
Speaker 2: get that real dirt on him because Trump outplayed him
Speaker 2: in the chess.
Speaker 1: It's very possible. It's very possible. I see where you're
Speaker 1: going with this. I never thought about it in that context.
Speaker 1: It's I've always seen it like Trump was either a
Speaker 1: using Epstein or Epstein was using Trump, and maybe they
Speaker 1: used each other because the usury is a thing in
Speaker 1: this world, especially for the upper echelon and wealthy elites
Speaker 1: and things. But it's like, at what point did one person, uh,
Speaker 1: how could I put this? The benefits had to go
Speaker 1: more on one side of the scale than the other, right,
Speaker 1: And I've always looked at it like they were operating
Speaker 1: on two separate sides of the financial equation. But maybe
Speaker 1: you're right. Maybe it's very possible that this was a
Speaker 1: case of keeping your friends close put your enemies closer
Speaker 1: as a way to fucking when the time came, and
Speaker 1: maybe Trump being in office was the time to strike.
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm not saying this for a fact. We
Speaker 1: were completely speculating in the realm of conspiracy theories, which
Speaker 1: is what we do for a living. But perhaps Trump
Speaker 1: saw his opportunity to erase some of his past sins
Speaker 1: by silencing this guy. But if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: why didn't he silence his lane because she could talk
Speaker 1: about all the shit she was I understanding. No, she
Speaker 1: didn't know as much as Jeff. She knew as far
Speaker 1: as the dirt goes. She may not have known the
Speaker 1: finance stuff where the money goes from point A to
Speaker 1: point B. She knew who was fucking which kid. She
Speaker 1: knew the dirt as far as that goes. So then
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they silence her? Why wouldn't she suffer an
Speaker 1: accident in a prison cell? Alle I don't they need
Speaker 1: to keep somebody alive.
Speaker 3: They have to keep somebody alive to keep pointing the
Speaker 3: finger at I mean, keep it going, keep ball going,
Speaker 3: because if they both die, then it's like, oh well,
Speaker 3: not now, what do we do.
Speaker 2: But if she's still around and she's still breadcrumbing things,
Speaker 2: then people are still latching onto her, talking about her,
Speaker 2: and they're not going after everyone else. It's an ultimate
Speaker 2: case of distraction because even because even talking about it online,
Speaker 2: though she's coming up, even when I'm reading all these
Speaker 2: Epstein things, put pictures of her and like that whole
Speaker 2: they have, like a whole clip right now that's going
Speaker 2: all of a viral everywhere of her just being bored
Speaker 2: and her big ass cell, by the way, her big
Speaker 2: ass solitary cell.
Speaker 3: It's ready.
Speaker 2: She's still living a life of comfort versus what she
Speaker 2: should be doing. But she's still being brought up over
Speaker 2: and over again because she might have more to tell,
Speaker 2: she might give us more information.
Speaker 1: Might be strategy though, to keep her there as like
Speaker 1: the talking piece, to keep people distracted from looking over
Speaker 1: here instead of over there. It's that's bold because she
Speaker 1: did give like a nine and a half hour interview
Speaker 1: and they still haven't released what the hell they talked about.
Speaker 1: But at that point, it's like a I don't think
Speaker 1: she tools.
Speaker 2: I think she knew to a certain degree. I want
Speaker 2: to know who this freaking Leslie is. I want to
Speaker 2: know where.
Speaker 1: She's at, Leslie groff mm hm, Oh yeah, she's not in.
Speaker 3: Jail, Yeah I know.
Speaker 2: I want to know where she's at. I want to
Speaker 2: know where Jojo is. I want to know where their
Speaker 2: chef Francis is. Francis that taught the beef jerky Francis
Speaker 2: said it procures everything.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we're going to go into good old Francis.
Speaker 2: I want to know where Francis is at like, I
Speaker 2: could list at least ten names of people that like
Speaker 2: are over out of the I'm now at probably about
Speaker 2: six hundred emails I've read, they are mentioned so many times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these people really really knew what was going on.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Giselle is not mentioned as much as you would think. Jojo, Leslie,
Speaker 2: Francis are mentioned so many times. The correspondence between them
Speaker 2: is insane, Like they can't even what. Jeffrey couldn't even
Speaker 2: function without Francis his chef. He couldn't function without him,
Speaker 2: But Francis gave his two week notice multiple times.
Speaker 1: That makes sense so that his assistance were mentioned so
Speaker 1: much because like Jeffrey very rarely emailed on behalf of
Speaker 1: himself unless it was somebody he could at that level
Speaker 1: with him. Most people he had to go through his
Speaker 1: assistance to get to him. No, no, he emailed a ton,
Speaker 1: but like two days, like his inner circle people right to.
Speaker 3: A lot of other people too, like old Boy was
Speaker 3: just chatting with everybody like he was chatting a bunch.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course they were mentioned because of their assistance.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is they're the key players here.
Speaker 2: They're the ones that were getting things there were the
Speaker 2: ones that were making sure of all this happens. There
Speaker 2: were the ones that were in charge of the cleanup,
Speaker 2: in charge of the pregerment, peer perkerment.
Speaker 3: I can't talk. It's late, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: damn it, procurement, thank you.
Speaker 2: But they're the ones that were in charge of all
Speaker 2: of this. So why aren't they in jail? Why is
Speaker 2: it just her?
Speaker 1: It's a very good point.
Speaker 3: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: We want to hear what you think about this? What
Speaker 1: do you think about this? A whole episode. We've brought
Speaker 1: up a couple more names today. We're gonna bring up
Speaker 1: more episodes as the time goes on. We are going
Speaker 1: to be talking about the cook, the chef. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about the assistance. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: the code words and the food mentions that is not
Speaker 1: exactly food, but they were probably eating it like it
Speaker 1: was food. We're gonna talk about it all before we
Speaker 1: sign off. I do want to go ahead and give
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