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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five K see the talk station. What a day,

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<v Speaker 1>What a day, What a day. Brad Winstrip just left

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, and great to talk with him for more

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<v Speaker 1>than an hour, talking about his committee report looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID nineteen and joining us now is the one

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<v Speaker 1>time vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Chris Smithaman

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<v Speaker 1>And Chris, I don't know if you had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to brad Winstrip at all, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look back at these days of what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on during the Wuhan virus, and I mean all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that happened that surrounded government, one scandal on

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<v Speaker 1>top of another. You know, when you talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>way they were trying to suppress free speech, when whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the virus came from a lab, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, came from nature. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the billions of dollars that got flushed down the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the tentacles of this and the scandals related

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<v Speaker 1>to this just really is it is gonna wind up

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<v Speaker 1>being I think one of the more shameful chapters in

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<v Speaker 1>American history, the way that that all this is shaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, Dan, good morning, and yes, I was listening

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<v Speaker 2>I consider Congressman brad Winster of a friend. We're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely sad to see him go after twelve years of service,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, a person who gave up a very

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<v Speaker 2>successful medical practice to do it, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for him to come home and be with his

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<v Speaker 2>wife and be with his kids and be a dad

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<v Speaker 2>and and make some money. So you know, he is

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<v Speaker 2>he has given a lot in the military, he now

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<v Speaker 2>has given a lot in Congress. And definitely, Dan, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, glad that that Congress from bratt Winster was

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<v Speaker 2>there at the Hill investigating what happened during COVID. I

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<v Speaker 2>think for me, you know, this most recent pardon by

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<v Speaker 2>President that Biden should catch the imagination of all Americans

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<v Speaker 2>because of the broadness of the pardon and the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I raise it in the context of your interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Congress from brad Winstrop is I believe that President Biden

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<v Speaker 2>is going to continue some very broad pardons prior to

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<v Speaker 2>January twentieth, and some of those pardons might connect with

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<v Speaker 2>the interview that you just had. So I think that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would not be surprised if he partons

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<v Speaker 2>Fauci in a very broad way over a number of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't even know what he's being pardoned for. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. Isn't it customary to have committed

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<v Speaker 1>a crime or have done something wrong before you received

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<v Speaker 1>the pardon or actually have been sentence yet for something, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or found guilty of something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, And so I think they're very nervous about

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<v Speaker 2>some of the selections that are coming from President elect

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<v Speaker 2>tromp at these administrative big moves at the top that

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<v Speaker 2>will just release information to the public. Here are the emails,

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<v Speaker 2>here are the memos, here are the meetings. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be incredibly transparent and telling for

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<v Speaker 2>all of us over the next two or three months.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about January, February, and March as information is

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<v Speaker 2>released about what was really happening. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>connected directly to the interview that you just had with

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<v Speaker 2>Congressman brad Winstrop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know, we spend so much time talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the swamp that Washington is the genres, the chiselers, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the ne'er do wells that didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>at that place. And I was asking him off the

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<v Speaker 1>air about what he was going to miss about being

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<v Speaker 1>in DC, and I think, you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of honorable people, and I think brad Winstrop is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the honorable people. And you know, going into this

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<v Speaker 1>select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, I asked him if

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<v Speaker 1>if he had a PreK or what he wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>results of this to be, and he said no, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we went in to find facts. We went in to

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<v Speaker 1>find out why this happened, how it happened, what was

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<v Speaker 1>done right, what was done wrong, and to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the truth of the matter and report to the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so many times, Chris Smithman, when when you have

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<v Speaker 1>committees like this, they go in with a preconceived notion

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<v Speaker 1>of what they want to find, what they want to report,

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<v Speaker 1>what they want the end product to be, and they

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<v Speaker 1>go in with blinders on trying to get from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to that predetermined conclusion. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>brad Winstrop is a great example of a real servant

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people. And I think he ran this

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<v Speaker 1>committee with great integrity, and I first.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, and I also think he did

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<v Speaker 2>it in a bipartisan way, which is you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>unusual in Congress. So it just shows again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his willingness to reach across the aisle and look for facts.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me a bit, Dan Carroll into the pennycase,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think we're going to find some type of

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<v Speaker 2>determination today. Well I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what, Chris, can you hang around for

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<v Speaker 1>one more segment?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got to get to a break right here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that on the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got another question for you as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to as it relates to cryptocurrency, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that as we roll on till nine o'clock this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Smithman on the other side of this on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KRCV talks about twenty nine on this Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, we are talking with Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Smitheman the smither Vent, a late version of the smith

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<v Speaker 1>event on this Monday morning, and you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Penny trial in New York City and to my

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<v Speaker 1>way of thinking, a terrible miscarriage of justice, a trial

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<v Speaker 1>that should never have been brought. You've got to al

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<v Speaker 1>everyone talks about Alvin Bragg. But the process comuter that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually running the case in the courtroom did an interview

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<v Speaker 1>some time ago talking about another case she had where

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<v Speaker 1>she felt bad for the defendant because the defendant didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have an easy life growing up, and so therefore she

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<v Speaker 1>led him off. The murder charge that this individual had committed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the standard that we should have for justice

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<v Speaker 1>in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely is not. And what was so telling about

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<v Speaker 2>the testimony are the number of African Americans, people of color,

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<v Speaker 2>men and women, white, black, other who testified and said,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought my life was on the line, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you have this good samaritan, And some people might be

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<v Speaker 2>listening to our interview and they don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. Where last week the judge said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you no longer have to consider manslaughter. Look at the

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<v Speaker 2>second charge. It's a lesser charge where he could get

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<v Speaker 2>four years. But the implications around race, because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that if Penny, who is a veteran white male who

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<v Speaker 2>intervened for the black people who were on the train,

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<v Speaker 2>the white people who were on the train, the men

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<v Speaker 2>and women, see, they don't tell that part of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't talk about the diversity of people that were

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<v Speaker 2>looking at him going, oh my god, we're on this train.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no cops down here. And this man just

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<v Speaker 2>got on the train and said he feels like he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to kill somebody and doesn't worry about what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to him if he does it. And so the notion

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<v Speaker 2>of the ripple effect across the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 2>They convict this good samaritan. What do we do when

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<v Speaker 2>we're in those situations? If you have a prosecutor that

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<v Speaker 2>will say, you know what, I'll put you in jail

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<v Speaker 2>if you intervene, What does that good samaritan have to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll, Wait for him to stabb somebody, wait for

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<v Speaker 2>him to start shooting in the in the train. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what that standard looks like. And so the reason

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<v Speaker 2>those New Yorkers are grappling with this is that because

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<v Speaker 2>of the crime written that they live in and they're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there going, well, what if my daughter was in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation, What if I was in that situation, What

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<v Speaker 2>if my spouse was in that situation? What do we

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<v Speaker 2>want Penny to stand up and do something about it?

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<v Speaker 2>And so the problem with this brother is you being

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<v Speaker 2>my white brother and us having these conversations. If these

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<v Speaker 2>are the kinds of things that try to divide us

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<v Speaker 2>in a country, we've got to be able to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the fact pattern and say, this has nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with race. This has to do with people on

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<v Speaker 2>a train where they felt that their lives were on

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<v Speaker 2>the line, and there was a veteran there who said,

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<v Speaker 2>as a good Samaritan, listen, I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>intervene and I'm going to try to save lives. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I heard a great interview. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>if this man had done it on the battlefield, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have been giving him a purple heart. Because he

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<v Speaker 2>did it in New York on a subway. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give him four years or we're going to give

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<v Speaker 2>him fifteen years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we're going to just have to hope

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<v Speaker 1>that this jury comes to their senses and finds him

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty on all these counts. Let me, let make me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me pivot now, Chris Smithman, And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more less talked about aspects of Donald Trump is that

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<v Speaker 1>he has become an advocate for cryptocurrency. In your role

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<v Speaker 1>as a financial planner, I would imagine that you're asked

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<v Speaker 1>about this all the time, or you talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time with the people that you deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you stand on the issue of cryptocurrency? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at bitcoin these days and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Thursday or Friday last week it went

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<v Speaker 1>up over one hundred thousand dollars for a single bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely amazing. I wish I would have bought it back

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<v Speaker 1>when I had the chance to buy it when it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, when you could buy you know, buy

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<v Speaker 1>it for less than a penny apiece. But well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how important is is the fact that that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has become an advocate for cryptocurrency? How important is that

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? You think when we talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>issues going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think when he walked into that restaurant with

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<v Speaker 2>those young people and bought that burger with bitcoin during

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign trail, he was sending a message that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that I think is real. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you it's something that I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more like a warm buffet here where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a wait and see. But there hasn't been a

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<v Speaker 2>person in the White House, you know, me serving as

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<v Speaker 2>a financial planner where someone is saying, hey, through the

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<v Speaker 2>public policy of the United States of America, we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to legitimize this currency. So I think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a very interesting time about what

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<v Speaker 2>this regulation look around that. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be very interesting about what this regulation look in general,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's banking, whether it's the oil industry, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the aviation industry. You know, what is what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this Trump administration going to look like? What

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<v Speaker 2>mergers does he allow to go through? I'm not naming any,

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<v Speaker 2>but think of some right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. What

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mergers will this administration be friendly to that

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<v Speaker 2>others won't. I think things like you know what our

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<v Speaker 2>social media platforms are doing or not doing is going

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<v Speaker 2>to hit his radar two just because of his experiences. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll, let me say this, because I know I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of time. All right, let me

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<v Speaker 2>say this to you, brother. Let me say this to

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<v Speaker 2>you brother. Look, people keep saying that this administration is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be about retribution, and I don't see that,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll. I don't see an administration coming in saying

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming in here to hurt somebody. What I do

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<v Speaker 2>see is an administration coming in saying I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 2>be transparent and tell the American people what is actually

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<v Speaker 2>that they're talking about cutting, meaning you have from Eli

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<v Speaker 2>Musk and the VIC saying hey, listen, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>look at our budgets, see what we've been buying in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon, or what kind of studies like monkey studies

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard about on TV that we've been funding with

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<v Speaker 2>our government, and look at those things and say, are

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<v Speaker 2>those those are those priorities for the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 2>And if they're not, we've got to cut them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I loved your show at the beginning when you said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is about groceries. This election was I just laughed.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd just say, hey, this is about groceries, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so simple and it was so true. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say inflation, he said groceries. And that's what this election

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<v Speaker 2>was about. And if he can bring those prices down,

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<v Speaker 2>if he can if he can bring peace around the

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<v Speaker 2>United States of America, this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>great administration for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's going to be great to see and

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, when you talk about and going back

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<v Speaker 1>that this even ties in to what we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>to brad Winstrop about, because it's the it's the bloat,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the inefficiency, it's the waste of this government and

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<v Speaker 1>the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy that we

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<v Speaker 1>have that got us into this Wuhan situation to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>because all this money was going to the Wuhan Lab

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<v Speaker 1>were not supposed to be paying for. And Fanci said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I signed off on, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>few billion here and a few billion there. Don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it's for. They put it in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me. I signed it. The money goes out the

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<v Speaker 1>door is someone else. It is someone else's job to

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<v Speaker 1>account for all that, not me, you know, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's spending all that money. And the way it's set

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<v Speaker 1>up that kind of I don't know if it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>about it might have to change. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this notion where we see pictures of

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<v Speaker 2>federal employees taking bubble baths and and and saying they're

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<v Speaker 2>working from home. There's one thing that there's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that people might even know what you and I talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but they go back to the ouse there. God yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that are literally in a bubble bath. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you're doing, you know, with our federal doubts,

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<v Speaker 2>there are people that work from home every day. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes all this sense in the world, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>people that need to come back in. That would be

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<v Speaker 2>one of them who's taking images of himself nude in

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<v Speaker 2>a bathtub. And by the way, when I look at

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<v Speaker 2>this case that's breaking right now with p Diddy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Beyonce and jay Z, I want everybody to hear what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Listen, don't defend it. This is an Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>situation on fire. It's a mess out here. This is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get really messy. And with Beyonce out trying to

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<v Speaker 2>endorse Vice President Harris, all of these things at the

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<v Speaker 2>end could have all been connected. Right. People could have

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<v Speaker 2>been trying to cover their hindsight, just like I see

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden when he says he's gonna he might partner

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<v Speaker 2>his brother. We have no idea here but to rake

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<v Speaker 2>up and see these headlines where these two men are

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<v Speaker 2>being accused of raping a thirteen year old child, where

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<v Speaker 2>one rate the other watched, one rate the other watched,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were other people there in the room. If

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<v Speaker 2>any version of this is true, these people should be

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<v Speaker 2>under the jail, never to see the light ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how that has to be our position, Dad Carroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I believe that people are innocent and tell proving guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm letting you know there's enough out there with

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<v Speaker 2>P Diddy, with these videos, and you go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and you see sympathy for this man, there should be

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<v Speaker 2>no sympathy. We should be trying to find out the

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<v Speaker 2>number of children that this man has probably destroyed their

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<v Speaker 2>lives terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always people out there that want to prevent us

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<v Speaker 1>from seeing the truth. And as our friend Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>likes to say, the truth self seving free.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Smith so much, Dan Carroll, appreciate you man. People

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<v Speaker 2>can follow me on x at vote Smitherman and I

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<v Speaker 2>tweeted you all the time. I hope you watch it, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I do take care, have a great a brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best. Chris Smithervan, thank you very much. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with that we will get to a break. We're a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit late for Dan Carroll, for Brian Thomas on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five krc DE talk stations this Christmas, keep your