Speaker 1: Fifty five K see the talk station. What a day,
Speaker 1: What a day, What a day. Brad Winstrip just left
Speaker 1: the studio, and great to talk with him for more
Speaker 1: than an hour, talking about his committee report looking at
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen and joining us now is the one
Speaker 1: time vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Chris Smithaman
Speaker 1: And Chris, I don't know if you had a chance
Speaker 1: to listen to brad Winstrip at all, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you look back at these days of what was
Speaker 1: going on during the Wuhan virus, and I mean all
Speaker 1: the things that happened that surrounded government, one scandal on
Speaker 1: top of another. You know, when you talk about the
Speaker 1: way they were trying to suppress free speech, when whether
Speaker 1: or not the virus came from a lab, whether it
Speaker 1: was you know, came from nature. When you talk about
Speaker 1: the billions of dollars that got flushed down the toilet,
Speaker 1: I mean, the tentacles of this and the scandals related
Speaker 1: to this just really is it is gonna wind up
Speaker 1: being I think one of the more shameful chapters in
Speaker 1: American history, the way that that all this is shaking out.
Speaker 2: Well, first, Dan, good morning, and yes, I was listening
Speaker 2: I consider Congressman brad Winster of a friend. We're you know,
Speaker 2: definitely sad to see him go after twelve years of service,
Speaker 2: and you know, a person who gave up a very
Speaker 2: successful medical practice to do it, and you know it's
Speaker 2: time for him to come home and be with his
Speaker 2: wife and be with his kids and be a dad
Speaker 2: and and make some money. So you know, he is
Speaker 2: he has given a lot in the military, he now
Speaker 2: has given a lot in Congress. And definitely, Dan, I was,
Speaker 2: you know, glad that that Congress from bratt Winster was
Speaker 2: there at the Hill investigating what happened during COVID. I
Speaker 2: think for me, you know, this most recent pardon by
Speaker 2: President that Biden should catch the imagination of all Americans
Speaker 2: because of the broadness of the pardon and the reason
Speaker 2: I raise it in the context of your interview with
Speaker 2: Congress from brad Winstrop is I believe that President Biden
Speaker 2: is going to continue some very broad pardons prior to
Speaker 2: January twentieth, and some of those pardons might connect with
Speaker 2: the interview that you just had. So I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, I would not be surprised if he partons
Speaker 2: Fauci in a very broad way over a number of years,
Speaker 2: and we don't even know what he's being pardoned for. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Isn't it customary to have committed
Speaker 1: a crime or have done something wrong before you received
Speaker 1: the pardon or actually have been sentence yet for something, yes,
Speaker 1: or found guilty of something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, And so I think they're very nervous about
Speaker 2: some of the selections that are coming from President elect
Speaker 2: tromp at these administrative big moves at the top that
Speaker 2: will just release information to the public. Here are the emails,
Speaker 2: here are the memos, here are the meetings. And I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be incredibly transparent and telling for
Speaker 2: all of us over the next two or three months.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about January, February, and March as information is
Speaker 2: released about what was really happening. And I think it's
Speaker 2: connected directly to the interview that you just had with
Speaker 2: Congressman brad Winstrop.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, we spend so much time talking about
Speaker 1: the swamp that Washington is the genres, the chiselers, that's
Speaker 1: the you know, the ne'er do wells that didn't have
Speaker 1: at that place. And I was asking him off the
Speaker 1: air about what he was going to miss about being
Speaker 1: in DC, and I think, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of honorable people, and I think brad Winstrop is one
Speaker 1: of the honorable people. And you know, going into this
Speaker 1: select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, I asked him if
Speaker 1: if he had a PreK or what he wanted the
Speaker 1: results of this to be, and he said no, he said,
Speaker 1: we went in to find facts. We went in to
Speaker 1: find out why this happened, how it happened, what was
Speaker 1: done right, what was done wrong, and to get to
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter and report to the American people.
Speaker 1: And so many times, Chris Smithman, when when you have
Speaker 1: committees like this, they go in with a preconceived notion
Speaker 1: of what they want to find, what they want to report,
Speaker 1: what they want the end product to be, and they
Speaker 1: go in with blinders on trying to get from you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get to that predetermined conclusion. And I think
Speaker 1: brad Winstrop is a great example of a real servant
Speaker 1: to the American people. And I think he ran this
Speaker 1: committee with great integrity, and I first.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I also think he did
Speaker 2: it in a bipartisan way, which is you know, very
Speaker 2: unusual in Congress. So it just shows again, you know,
Speaker 2: his willingness to reach across the aisle and look for facts.
Speaker 2: But let me a bit, Dan Carroll into the pennycase,
Speaker 2: which I think we're going to find some type of
Speaker 2: determination today. Well I hope.
Speaker 1: So you know what, Chris, can you hang around for
Speaker 1: one more segment?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Okay, we got to get to a break right here.
Speaker 1: We'll do that on the other side of the break,
Speaker 1: and I've got another question for you as it relates
Speaker 1: to as it relates to cryptocurrency, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that as we roll on till nine o'clock this morning,
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we will continue
Speaker 1: with Chris Smithman on the other side of this on
Speaker 1: fifty five KRCV talks about twenty nine on this Monday morning,
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, we are talking with Chris
Speaker 1: Smitheman the smither Vent, a late version of the smith
Speaker 1: event on this Monday morning, and you were talking about
Speaker 1: the Penny trial in New York City and to my
Speaker 1: way of thinking, a terrible miscarriage of justice, a trial
Speaker 1: that should never have been brought. You've got to al
Speaker 1: everyone talks about Alvin Bragg. But the process comuter that's
Speaker 1: actually running the case in the courtroom did an interview
Speaker 1: some time ago talking about another case she had where
Speaker 1: she felt bad for the defendant because the defendant didn't
Speaker 1: have an easy life growing up, and so therefore she
Speaker 1: led him off. The murder charge that this individual had committed.
Speaker 1: Is that the standard that we should have for justice
Speaker 1: in this country.
Speaker 2: It absolutely is not. And what was so telling about
Speaker 2: the testimony are the number of African Americans, people of color,
Speaker 2: men and women, white, black, other who testified and said,
Speaker 2: I thought my life was on the line, and so
Speaker 2: you have this good samaritan, And some people might be
Speaker 2: listening to our interview and they don't even know what
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Where last week the judge said, hey,
Speaker 2: you no longer have to consider manslaughter. Look at the
Speaker 2: second charge. It's a lesser charge where he could get
Speaker 2: four years. But the implications around race, because I believe
Speaker 2: that if Penny, who is a veteran white male who
Speaker 2: intervened for the black people who were on the train,
Speaker 2: the white people who were on the train, the men
Speaker 2: and women, see, they don't tell that part of the story.
Speaker 2: They don't talk about the diversity of people that were
Speaker 2: looking at him going, oh my god, we're on this train.
Speaker 2: There are no cops down here. And this man just
Speaker 2: got on the train and said he feels like he's
Speaker 2: going to kill somebody and doesn't worry about what happens
Speaker 2: to him if he does it. And so the notion
Speaker 2: of the ripple effect across the United States of America.
Speaker 2: They convict this good samaritan. What do we do when
Speaker 2: we're in those situations? If you have a prosecutor that
Speaker 2: will say, you know what, I'll put you in jail
Speaker 2: if you intervene, What does that good samaritan have to do?
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll, Wait for him to stabb somebody, wait for
Speaker 2: him to start shooting in the in the train. Tell
Speaker 2: me what that standard looks like. And so the reason
Speaker 2: those New Yorkers are grappling with this is that because
Speaker 2: of the crime written that they live in and they're
Speaker 2: sitting there going, well, what if my daughter was in
Speaker 2: that situation, What if I was in that situation, What
Speaker 2: if my spouse was in that situation? What do we
Speaker 2: want Penny to stand up and do something about it?
Speaker 2: And so the problem with this brother is you being
Speaker 2: my white brother and us having these conversations. If these
Speaker 2: are the kinds of things that try to divide us
Speaker 2: in a country, we've got to be able to look
Speaker 2: at the fact pattern and say, this has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with race. This has to do with people on
Speaker 2: a train where they felt that their lives were on
Speaker 2: the line, and there was a veteran there who said,
Speaker 2: as a good Samaritan, listen, I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: intervene and I'm going to try to save lives. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I heard a great interview. They said,
Speaker 2: if this man had done it on the battlefield, they
Speaker 2: would have been giving him a purple heart. Because he
Speaker 2: did it in New York on a subway. We're going
Speaker 2: to give him four years or we're going to give
Speaker 2: him fifteen years in prison.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to just have to hope
Speaker 1: that this jury comes to their senses and finds him
Speaker 1: not guilty on all these counts. Let me, let make me,
Speaker 1: let me pivot now, Chris Smithman, And one of the
Speaker 1: more less talked about aspects of Donald Trump is that
Speaker 1: he has become an advocate for cryptocurrency. In your role
Speaker 1: as a financial planner, I would imagine that you're asked
Speaker 1: about this all the time, or you talk about it
Speaker 1: from time to time with the people that you deal with.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the issue of cryptocurrency? And
Speaker 1: you know, you look at bitcoin these days and I
Speaker 1: think it was Thursday or Friday last week it went
Speaker 1: up over one hundred thousand dollars for a single bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. I wish I would have bought it back
Speaker 1: when I had the chance to buy it when it
Speaker 1: was you know, when you could buy you know, buy
Speaker 1: it for less than a penny apiece. But well, you know,
Speaker 1: how important is is the fact that that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has become an advocate for cryptocurrency? How important is that
Speaker 1: going to be? You think when we talk about these
Speaker 1: issues going forward.
Speaker 2: Well, I think when he walked into that restaurant with
Speaker 2: those young people and bought that burger with bitcoin during
Speaker 2: the campaign trail, he was sending a message that, hey,
Speaker 2: this is something that I think is real. You know,
Speaker 2: I have to tell you it's something that I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I'm more like a warm buffet here where you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a wait and see. But there hasn't been a
Speaker 2: person in the White House, you know, me serving as
Speaker 2: a financial planner where someone is saying, hey, through the
Speaker 2: public policy of the United States of America, we're we're
Speaker 2: going to legitimize this currency. So I think that this
Speaker 2: is going to be a very interesting time about what
Speaker 2: this regulation look around that. I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be very interesting about what this regulation look in general,
Speaker 2: whether it's banking, whether it's the oil industry, whether it's
Speaker 2: the aviation industry. You know, what is what is this?
Speaker 2: What is this Trump administration going to look like? What
Speaker 2: mergers does he allow to go through? I'm not naming any,
Speaker 2: but think of some right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. What
Speaker 2: kind of mergers will this administration be friendly to that
Speaker 2: others won't. I think things like you know what our
Speaker 2: social media platforms are doing or not doing is going
Speaker 2: to hit his radar two just because of his experiences. Now,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll, let me say this, because I know I
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time. All right, let me
Speaker 2: say this to you, brother. Let me say this to
Speaker 2: you brother. Look, people keep saying that this administration is
Speaker 2: going to be about retribution, and I don't see that,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll. I don't see an administration coming in saying
Speaker 2: I'm coming in here to hurt somebody. What I do
Speaker 2: see is an administration coming in saying I'm willing to
Speaker 2: be transparent and tell the American people what is actually
Speaker 2: going on with their government. And I love the fact
Speaker 2: that they're talking about cutting, meaning you have from Eli
Speaker 2: Musk and the VIC saying hey, listen, I'm going to
Speaker 2: look at our budgets, see what we've been buying in
Speaker 2: the Pentagon, or what kind of studies like monkey studies
Speaker 2: I've heard about on TV that we've been funding with
Speaker 2: our government, and look at those things and say, are
Speaker 2: those those are those priorities for the United States of America,
Speaker 2: And if they're not, we've got to cut them. And
Speaker 2: I loved your show at the beginning when you said, hey,
Speaker 2: this is about groceries. This election was I just laughed.
Speaker 2: We'd just say, hey, this is about groceries, and it
Speaker 2: was so simple and it was so true. He didn't
Speaker 2: say inflation, he said groceries. And that's what this election
Speaker 2: was about. And if he can bring those prices down,
Speaker 2: if he can if he can bring peace around the
Speaker 2: United States of America, this is going to be a
Speaker 2: great administration for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's going to be great to see and
Speaker 1: when you know, when you talk about and going back
Speaker 1: that this even ties in to what we were talking
Speaker 1: to brad Winstrop about, because it's the it's the bloat,
Speaker 1: it's the inefficiency, it's the waste of this government and
Speaker 1: the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy that we
Speaker 1: have that got us into this Wuhan situation to begin with,
Speaker 1: because all this money was going to the Wuhan Lab
Speaker 1: in China to pay for all this research that they
Speaker 1: were not supposed to be paying for. And Fanci said,
Speaker 1: you know what I signed off on, you know, a
Speaker 1: few billion here and a few billion there. Don't I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's for. They put it in front
Speaker 1: of me. I signed it. The money goes out the
Speaker 1: door is someone else. It is someone else's job to
Speaker 1: account for all that, not me, you know, the guy
Speaker 1: that's spending all that money. And the way it's set
Speaker 1: up that kind of I don't know if it's ever
Speaker 1: going to change, but at least the way of thinking
Speaker 1: about it might have to change. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what this the Doge Committee is probably going to do
Speaker 1: the best at.
Speaker 2: And I think this notion where we see pictures of
Speaker 2: federal employees taking bubble baths and and and saying they're
Speaker 2: working from home. There's one thing that there's one thing
Speaker 2: that people might even know what you and I talk about,
Speaker 2: but they go back to the ouse there. God yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that are literally in a bubble bath. I mean, if
Speaker 2: that's what you're doing, you know, with our federal doubts,
Speaker 2: there are people that work from home every day. It
Speaker 2: makes all this sense in the world, but there are
Speaker 2: people that need to come back in. That would be
Speaker 2: one of them who's taking images of himself nude in
Speaker 2: a bathtub. And by the way, when I look at
Speaker 2: this case that's breaking right now with p Diddy, right,
Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z, I want everybody to hear what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Listen, don't defend it. This is an Epstein
Speaker 2: situation on fire. It's a mess out here. This is
Speaker 2: gonna get really messy. And with Beyonce out trying to
Speaker 2: endorse Vice President Harris, all of these things at the
Speaker 2: end could have all been connected. Right. People could have
Speaker 2: been trying to cover their hindsight, just like I see
Speaker 2: President Biden when he says he's gonna he might partner
Speaker 2: his brother. We have no idea here but to rake
Speaker 2: up and see these headlines where these two men are
Speaker 2: being accused of raping a thirteen year old child, where
Speaker 2: one rate the other watched, one rate the other watched,
Speaker 2: and there were other people there in the room. If
Speaker 2: any version of this is true, these people should be
Speaker 2: under the jail, never to see the light ever again.
Speaker 2: And that's how that has to be our position, Dad Carroll.
Speaker 2: Now I believe that people are innocent and tell proving guilty.
Speaker 2: But I'm letting you know there's enough out there with
Speaker 2: P Diddy, with these videos, and you go out there
Speaker 2: and you see sympathy for this man, there should be
Speaker 2: no sympathy. We should be trying to find out the
Speaker 2: number of children that this man has probably destroyed their
Speaker 2: lives terrible.
Speaker 1: There's always people out there that want to prevent us
Speaker 1: from seeing the truth. And as our friend Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: likes to say, the truth self seving free.
Speaker 2: Chris Smith so much, Dan Carroll, appreciate you man. People
Speaker 2: can follow me on x at vote Smitherman and I
Speaker 2: tweeted you all the time. I hope you watch it, baby,
Speaker 2: I do take care, have a great a brother.
Speaker 1: You're the best. Chris Smithervan, thank you very much. I'm
Speaker 1: with that we will get to a break. We're a
Speaker 1: little bit late for Dan Carroll, for Brian Thomas on
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