Speaker 1: Well whiskey coming, don't you.
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Speaker 2: your bartenders Steve Hayward, John Yu and power Lines International
Speaker 2: Woman of Mystery Lucretia.
Speaker 1: You gotta given that wild where you're being in Loud
Speaker 1: Down and Lode.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to a super special anniversary episode of the
Speaker 3: Three Whiskey Happy Hour. Because Steve Hayward didn't tell anybody
Speaker 3: about this anybody, but this is the five hundredth anniversary
Speaker 3: of the Three Whiskey Happy the five hundredth episode. I
Speaker 3: don't even know what, Steve, what is the word for
Speaker 3: that's it goes way beyond sesque tenial or whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it would it be pentitenial. What is the fifth hundred
Speaker 3: and you, Steve, I assume you were there for episode
Speaker 3: number one.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, you've got you
Speaker 1: haven't quite got it right. It's the five hundredth episode
Speaker 1: of the power Line podcast, which is of course our
Speaker 1: umbrella thing, right, And it began way before I joined
Speaker 1: Powerline in twenty eleven. But back then it was just
Speaker 1: you know, Jon Scott and Paul and they were very
Speaker 1: intermittent about it. I mean they didn't do it regularly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so, I mean if it was three Minnesotans,
Speaker 3: it was just like who could be the friendliest person
Speaker 3: on the podcast? Where as instead we jazzed it up
Speaker 3: by adding someone who's the opposite of the friendliest person
Speaker 3: on podcasting, the famous Lucretia.
Speaker 4: I am a midwestern Er, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 3: Everyone associates you with the great Southwest. How are you
Speaker 3: from the northwester?
Speaker 4: I have lit I grew. I was born in Io,
Speaker 4: and then I went to live with relatives in Minnesota,
Speaker 4: and then I moved to California in my high school years,
Speaker 4: and then I traveled the world and ended up in Arizona.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: But you remember, John, she's from Iowa originally, And whenever
Speaker 1: I think of Lucretia coming from Iowa, I think of
Speaker 1: those lyrics from the Music Man about we can be
Speaker 1: cold as a following thermometer in December if you ask
Speaker 1: about her weather in July. Right, Well, how was the
Speaker 1: other one, Lucretia. It's we're so by god stubborn anyway. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so there's a different Steve.
Speaker 3: How many is this do you remember how many episodes
Speaker 3: has it been with this configuration with you Lucretia. I,
Speaker 3: of course, am just a late night carpetbagger who only
Speaker 3: joined about a year and a half ago because Steve
Speaker 3: had to go on his bi annual pilgrimage to a
Speaker 3: distillery country like I think you were in Ireland or Scotland.
Speaker 3: I don't know where you were allowed me to sneak in.
Speaker 3: But Steve, how many is this for you?
Speaker 1: Well that's actually three years ago now, John, So it's
Speaker 1: got to be at least I haven't counted, but this
Speaker 1: has to be at least one hundred and fifty episodes now.
Speaker 1: Of well, if before you joined this was just me
Speaker 1: and Lucretia, it's got to be two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: episodes by now. I think, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Those were I have to say I was a regular
Speaker 3: listener before I joined, and those were great episodes. Because now,
Speaker 3: for those of you who don't know, Steve brought me
Speaker 3: on is just to divide the targets of attack for Lucretia,
Speaker 3: so it's not just focused on him, and let me
Speaker 3: bring us back to the actual events of the show,
Speaker 3: because that might be what's happened now with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: She's picked a vice president, Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota,
Speaker 3: which now provides Donald Trump with two targets to shoot at,
Speaker 3: not just one. Steve, what's your thought on this new
Speaker 3: pick by comust First, just I think we should both
Speaker 3: talk about both you and Lucretia ask you both this,
Speaker 3: what do you just think about him as the candidate
Speaker 3: on the merits? But then two, does it change the
Speaker 3: race at all?
Speaker 1: I think? Well, so, first of all, it proves that
Speaker 1: she can be intimidated, right, I mean all those signs
Speaker 1: where she wanted to pick Shapiro, by the way, all
Speaker 1: the news stories that well, they didn't get along in
Speaker 1: their conversation, she wasn't comfortable with him, you know, or
Speaker 1: he backed I think all those are lies. I think
Speaker 1: that she was intimidated out of picking him because so
Speaker 1: many people on the left are saying, we can't have
Speaker 1: this pro Israel, anti Palestinian. This is all code words
Speaker 1: for a Jewish running mate. Right, and picking walt she
Speaker 1: doubled down on her own brand. She didn't pick a
Speaker 1: moderate the way du kau Kistan in eighty eight to
Speaker 1: balance the ticket. She picked another progressive just like herself,
Speaker 1: and I think that pleased the progressive base of the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I think it shows that she's insecure. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just terrible. I mean, I've been kidding Scott and
Speaker 1: John about Ah. Now we can have a debate about
Speaker 1: who has the worst governor California with Newsom or Waltz
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, because he's, you know, just as progressive in
Speaker 1: all the awful ways as Newsome is. I do think
Speaker 1: here Lucretia will have a lot to say. I do
Speaker 1: think that's interesting how this business about his resigning from
Speaker 1: his National Guard unit once he learned he might be
Speaker 1: deployed to a rock might have some legs. It's starting
Speaker 1: to get out into the mainstream media, you know, CNN's
Speaker 1: and a couple of things on this. Our pal mac
Speaker 1: Owens had a piece in the Providence Journal yesterday saying, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to accuse him of stolen valor, but
Speaker 1: it's really an offense against the honor of serving military
Speaker 1: people to bail out the way he did. And apparently
Speaker 1: they had to shut down the comment thread for the
Speaker 1: article because it's excited so much controversy.
Speaker 4: He was wrong about it, not being stolen valor. I mean,
Speaker 4: I read the article too, and it was a good article.
Speaker 4: But you've got all of these people out there who are.
Speaker 1: Show well. Just my conclusion on this is is that
Speaker 1: I think it's very unlikely he get dropped from the ticket,
Speaker 1: because that would just be fatal to Harris and be
Speaker 1: like McGovern dumping Eagleton fifty years ago. But I think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a problem for them. And
Speaker 1: my prediction is in his speech to the convention this
Speaker 1: week coming up, he won't talk about his military service.
Speaker 1: This is going to be memory hold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've actually showed an apology saying he didn't, but
Speaker 4: the campaign did that he misspoke. So yeah, there's a
Speaker 4: couple of issues. First, let me go back to what
Speaker 4: Steve said about why Waltz was chosen. I don't disagree
Speaker 4: with anything Steve said at all. He's absolutely right, but
Speaker 4: I do think there's a little bit more to it.
Speaker 4: It's not just that those conversations say with Shapiro didn't
Speaker 4: go well, or she didn't feel a vibe or whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it with Shapiro. I think that
Speaker 4: the others recognize that there's very little chance that she's
Speaker 4: likely to win in November, the Whitmers and the others
Speaker 4: who just can't afford it. Walls supposedly said he has
Speaker 4: no interest in being a president, so he posed no
Speaker 4: threat to Amala Dayamalama ding Dong. That's my new name,
Speaker 4: and I'm never saying it any other life I can remember.
Speaker 3: Can I just say, I can't even remember now what
Speaker 3: the word was before, Like, what was it ding dong?
Speaker 3: Now I can't.
Speaker 4: It's Shamalama ding Dong from oh okay, right, yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: just leave that one alone. So so I think that
Speaker 4: there were a lot of things coming together that made
Speaker 4: Waltz perfect for Kamalama ding Dong, but not necessarily for
Speaker 4: a wider view. I did think that they probably know
Speaker 4: there's now there's no way that they can win. They
Speaker 4: cannot put this story down. One of the things that
Speaker 4: I posted go back to the whole thing about stolen valor.
Speaker 4: He didn't resign from his unit, Steve. He retired, and
Speaker 4: of course, you know, everybody keeps arguing after twenty four
Speaker 4: years in the National Guard, he has every right to retire,
Speaker 4: but first of all, he had he had enlisted for
Speaker 4: a six year term. It takes quite a bit to
Speaker 4: get out before your reenlistment. I mean, that's the whole point.
Speaker 4: You might get out, you might be medically separated or
Speaker 4: something like that, But retirement would have required somebody with
Speaker 4: some power in the chain to have agreed to this.
Speaker 4: And he did, in fact know people are saying this. Also,
Speaker 4: he did in fact know that his unit was deploying.
Speaker 4: He promised to deploy with his unit to Iraq, and then,
Speaker 4: of course quietly in the background, put in his paperwork
Speaker 4: to retire. That. You know, again, it's if you don't
Speaker 4: spend as much time with military folks as I do,
Speaker 4: and I've spent a lot of time. In last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, I took a visit to Fort Jackson, which
Speaker 4: is the number one basic combat training base now for
Speaker 4: the Army. About sixty percent of all basic training recruits
Speaker 4: go through there. I spent a week there. And you know,
Speaker 4: so I know a lot of people who are command
Speaker 4: sergeant majors. They are, in fact everything that Tim Mama
Speaker 4: Law supposedly claims to be or Daddy Waltz. They really
Speaker 4: are the cohesiveness that holds a unit together. The officers
Speaker 4: have a different kind of relationship with the soldiers. I
Speaker 4: don't want to go into that. There's enough about it
Speaker 4: out there that our listeners will know. But it was
Speaker 4: a huge, a huge betrayal of his battalion. There's no
Speaker 4: way to put that down. The funny thing I think
Speaker 4: about it is that they knew this was true. They
Speaker 4: knew that he had claimed to be a command sergeant
Speaker 4: major and not a master sergeant once he was actually
Speaker 4: retired and demoted. They knew all of that in the campaign,
Speaker 4: but they didn't think it mattered. It reminds me of
Speaker 4: that time Biden went to Georgia after the Bulldogs won
Speaker 4: their first national championship and he doesn't say it word.
Speaker 4: They're so stupid, those millennials inside the campaign that they
Speaker 4: didn't think it was it would matter.
Speaker 1: Well, this did come up in his first governor's race
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Ye they're such about so they should right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course they knew about it. I mean
Speaker 4: the Tribune, as you would expect, to covered it up
Speaker 4: to or said, you know, it's a non story in
Speaker 4: this and that there aren't major military bases in Minnesota,
Speaker 4: but in places like Pennsylvania. By the way, John, there
Speaker 4: are eight hundred thousand veterans in Pennsylvania, there are six
Speaker 4: hundred thousand in Georgia. There are four one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand in Arizona. Now none of those veterans unless
Speaker 4: there are they, you know, nowadays you get more of
Speaker 4: the rabid lefties and among the veteran population too. But
Speaker 4: even leftist or non political soldiers that I've talked to lately,
Speaker 4: especially senior and CEOs, who know nothing and care nothing
Speaker 4: about politics, but they really don't. They are adamant that
Speaker 4: that this is disqualifying, that this guy is a trader,
Speaker 4: that you know, that it's stolen valor, and there's nothing
Speaker 4: that you could do to offend veterans more. I think
Speaker 4: what's going to happen is that veterans who would not otherwise,
Speaker 4: would not otherwise have voted at all, are going to
Speaker 4: vote against Waltz, and I think the VP choice matters
Speaker 4: in this case. The last thing, the last thing I'll
Speaker 4: say about that is that talking to people here in Arizona,
Speaker 4: soldiers here where I.
Speaker 3: Believe Kamala is coming today for a big rally.
Speaker 4: She was there yesterday. Oh yes, Tamilama ding Dong was
Speaker 4: in Phoenix. And the funny let me come back to that,
Speaker 4: but really quick, a lot of these soldiers, you know
Speaker 4: what they said to me, Why wouldn't she choose Mark Kelly?
Speaker 4: He's an astronaut. Now, of course you knew what I
Speaker 4: think of Mark Kelly. But my point is these are
Speaker 4: not people who are political. This isn't a political decision.
Speaker 4: This is I would never vote for someone I consider
Speaker 4: to be a liar and a cheat and a betrayer
Speaker 4: of his troops. And so anyway, I think I think
Speaker 4: it's going to be bigger than people are trying to
Speaker 4: make it out to be. Back to Kamalama ding Dong
Speaker 4: in Arizona, the interesting thing is watching how they are
Speaker 4: desperately trying to make it look like her rallies are
Speaker 4: as big as Trumps. Now again, Trump's in Montana yesterday.
Speaker 4: Montana is not in play for the presidency. He went
Speaker 4: to go support Tim Sheehy. The line started in the morning,
Speaker 4: and you know, they had to put up big screen
Speaker 4: TVs outside because there wasn't room for everybody that wanted
Speaker 4: to get in. In the case of Kamalama ding Dong's
Speaker 4: rally in Phoenix, they covered the upper stores. What would
Speaker 4: you call the upper bleachers with black cloth so that
Speaker 4: the pictures wouldn't show them being empty seats. They bring
Speaker 4: in man. And the other thing is every single one
Speaker 4: of her rallies has has featured people I of course
Speaker 4: have never heard of. You know, anybody who'd actually go
Speaker 4: listen to some hip hop singer deserves to vote for
Speaker 4: Kamala ding Dong in my opinion. But she brings in
Speaker 4: these god awful supposedly popular hip hop or rap singers
Speaker 4: or whatever. And then that's why and their free concerts,
Speaker 4: and that's why people show up that And if you've
Speaker 4: seen pictures over the rally, somebody did this. It was
Speaker 4: so damn funny. It was just a bunch of old,
Speaker 4: fat women who all look like they owned multiple cats.
Speaker 4: I just I'm just gonna leave it.
Speaker 3: At that, Okay, Steve, Steve, do you think it makes
Speaker 3: a difference? So does this just have the effect of
Speaker 3: neutralizing any advantage Harris might have gone and from picking Waltz?
Speaker 3: And then you know, just a few weeks ago people
Speaker 3: were bemoaning the choice of JD.
Speaker 1: Vance.
Speaker 3: There's some buyers horse there even leaking out of the
Speaker 3: Trump camp. Maybe both sides have made a kind of
Speaker 3: misstep here and they cancel each other out, and we're
Speaker 3: just back to a race between Trump and Harris.
Speaker 1: Well, and look, it usually comes down to the top
Speaker 1: of the ticket. The evidence is kind of weak that
Speaker 1: running mates make a difference, except say LBJ in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: But I still think that the smart play would have
Speaker 1: been for Harris to pick Roy Cooper of North Carolina,
Speaker 1: who took himself out, or Andy Basher of Kentucky. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's you know, balancing in the old fashioned way might
Speaker 1: appeal to some of those states where Harris is weak.
Speaker 1: And Okay, I think Vance looks better now because he
Speaker 1: actually did serve in the combat zone, and I think
Speaker 1: he's up his game. I've been paying a little bit
Speaker 1: of attention. I think he did a brilliant move the
Speaker 1: other day when he landed on the same runway as
Speaker 1: hair Russ plane and walked across the runway to the
Speaker 1: reporters saying, well, you guys are kind of lonely, no,
Speaker 1: since you won't talk to you and anyway, I think
Speaker 1: he stepped back up his game. He's looking better. I
Speaker 1: think this was I think you shouldn't John have bought
Speaker 1: the media kool aid about Vance. I mean, he's you know,
Speaker 1: it's sort of an uneven starred and he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of baggage that always comes out with running mates
Speaker 1: in the first two three weeks, baggage we say. Sorry.
Speaker 1: What I mean by baggage is in the ordinary conventional
Speaker 1: sense of stuff, the media and the opponents are going
Speaker 1: to exploit the childless and stuff. And that doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd carry Why would.
Speaker 4: It bother anybody but a childless cat lady.
Speaker 3: Who apparently there seemed to be a number of them
Speaker 3: in the suburbs Michigan. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: Will never vote for Trump anyway. They're they're still offended
Speaker 4: because he said he'd grab them by the you know what.
Speaker 4: You know, they're so repeal the Nineteenth Amendment, maybe just
Speaker 4: for for childless cat ladies.
Speaker 1: I think the uh real, I mean real question, John,
Speaker 1: is maybe your topic number two on the Trump campaign.
Speaker 1: I don't know, are you done with Waltz or I'm
Speaker 1: done with the guy?
Speaker 3: But here's one other thing, is both of you have
Speaker 3: said quite at odds with the way the media is
Speaker 3: presenting Waltz as a sort of grandfatherly mass Midwestern dad
Speaker 3: football coach. I mean There's been an enormous number of
Speaker 3: stories about how football coach will appeal to h young men,
Speaker 3: vote me, you young male voters. But he's a terrible progressive.
Speaker 3: He's a terrible progressive.
Speaker 4: Are an assistant football coach?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think he's a pretty good one. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see, but never mind that.
Speaker 4: Matter. High school football coach, coach, coach, Give me a break.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: See this is this actually shows a gender divide because
Speaker 3: he was like his coach assistant.
Speaker 4: He's a social studies teacher. I mean, the dumbest people
Speaker 4: on the planet are next to early childhood people are
Speaker 4: social studies teachers who are coaches. That's the only reason
Speaker 4: they get a degree, because that's what they want to do.
Speaker 4: They want to hang out in the gym or on
Speaker 4: the field all day. And one has to wonder. Never mind,
Speaker 4: I'll just leave it alone. But he was not the coach.
Speaker 4: He wasn't even good enough to rise to the level
Speaker 4: of coach. He was the assistant coach.
Speaker 3: Well in high school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in high school.
Speaker 3: In high school. It's not talking about the NFL here,
Speaker 3: But what does this Why do you guys say he's
Speaker 3: such a big progressive. You're seeing almost none of this
Speaker 3: filter through into the in the mainstream media. You know,
Speaker 3: I scour the New York Times, in the Washington Post
Speaker 3: and the Wall Street Journal every day, as Lucretia constantly
Speaker 3: criticizes me for, But I don't actually see that much
Speaker 3: that seems to bear on him being this wild eyed progressive.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's might be, but the problem always keep in
Speaker 1: mind at you know, what's the old line, does a
Speaker 1: fish know it's wet when it's in the ocean? Right?
Speaker 1: The reporters, now for the media, they don't think that
Speaker 1: they're liberal or leftists. They don't think that progressive ideas
Speaker 1: are controversial, and so of course they're not going to say, gosh,
Speaker 1: you know, Waltz insisting on signing a bill holding tampons
Speaker 1: and boys restrooms in K twelve school, you know, from
Speaker 1: fourth grade to twelfth grade. Right, fourth grade. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting thought. Tampon's in the fourth grade in elementary school,
Speaker 1: boys bathroom. But so there you go. He's got all
Speaker 1: kinds of barnacles that way, every bit as much as newsome.
Speaker 1: And so it's on the truck th COVID correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 4: Newsen never had a snitch line.
Speaker 1: I think he thought about it, but it doesn't matter, right,
Speaker 1: he had a snitch line and all the rest of that.
Speaker 1: So look, I mean, also, John, I guess do you
Speaker 1: not read the Wall Street Journal editorial page they've taken long?
Speaker 1: I do, Well, you'll learn the truth there at least.
Speaker 1: See this is the paper where you begin with the
Speaker 1: editorial page, and then if you have time, you read
Speaker 1: the news pages. That's what I say about the journal.
Speaker 3: So oh, I do too, I have to admit. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 3: let's turn. Let's turn to our second topic and start
Speaker 3: with lucretia, which is what the hell is going on
Speaker 3: with the Trump campaign. It seems to me that the
Speaker 3: Trump and Vance, and I don't blame them, were kind
Speaker 3: of wrong footed by this swap of Harris for Biden.
Speaker 3: They seemed a little, I don't know, they seemed a
Speaker 3: little passive for about two weeks. They seemed confused about
Speaker 3: what kind of strategy to you, And then there have
Speaker 3: been this criticism of Trump for instead of trying to
Speaker 3: bring to light all of the bad policies that Harris
Speaker 3: has stated she supports. And now your guys are adding
Speaker 3: Waltz to he's instead focusing his attacks on Kamala Harris's identity,
Speaker 3: and then we start this feud with the governor of Georgia.
Speaker 3: These are all great stories, but they allow Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: the breathing room to define herself and run all these
Speaker 3: positive ads about her during the Olympics.
Speaker 4: Thank you Mitt Romney for setting the question up for
Speaker 4: me so well.
Speaker 1: I totally sorry.
Speaker 4: Trump has an hour long, seventy minute long press conference,
Speaker 4: and you know, he talked about how bad her policies are.
Speaker 4: He talked about the fact that she hasn't given a
Speaker 4: press conference, the fact that he hasn't had seventeen rallies
Speaker 4: like she has. I don't think is necessarily proof that
Speaker 4: they that they were off their game. I don't believe
Speaker 4: that it's wrong to attack Harris for her DEI lack
Speaker 4: of qualifications. Personally, I think she's a moron. I think
Speaker 4: proof of the fact that she's a moron is that
Speaker 4: they simply won't let her in front of an interviewer
Speaker 4: who would ask her any real question questions. I guess
Speaker 4: I don't see it. Maybe because I'm the beneficiary. I
Speaker 4: have a junk email and many many years ago, my
Speaker 4: brother in law sent me a pro Obama thing which
Speaker 4: got me on a list. So I get all the
Speaker 4: Republican conservative email and I get all the Democrats. You know,
Speaker 4: the best that Kama can do is I'm so excited
Speaker 4: about having Daddy Wild to be part of the ticket. Hey,
Speaker 4: can you please send I know you haven't sent any
Speaker 4: money yet, but can this be your first twenty five dollars?
Speaker 4: It's I think it's a false narrative that says Trump's
Speaker 4: campaign isn't doing well. I think the other false narrative
Speaker 4: is that the polls are showing X, Y and Z.
Speaker 4: I don't think the polls are showing anything of the kind.
Speaker 4: I think they're made up polls designed to try to
Speaker 4: build some momentum for Harris. And I think that when
Speaker 4: it comes down to it, we're going to see that
Speaker 4: this whole last couple of weeks was a bit of
Speaker 4: a fairy tale invented by the mediagasm. That's my belief,
Speaker 4: the Camalama ding Dong media gasm.
Speaker 3: I'm mark right, yeah, Steve so, But I mean the
Speaker 3: media is always going to be against Trump. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just something he has to take account of, is
Speaker 3: he missing his chances or is Lucretia right. Actually Trump's
Speaker 3: doing a lot better than the media and the polls reflect,
Speaker 3: and they haven't been making the serious mistakes that you
Speaker 3: know the commentariat is claiming. Even conservative commentariats or like
Speaker 3: even Laura Ingram attacked Trump on TV this last week saying,
Speaker 3: you know, get onto the issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so everybody is anxious and jumping the gun. Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's very shrewd of them to wait and
Speaker 1: as you put it, be passive, not the word i'd use,
Speaker 1: but for a bunch of reasons. The Olympics are on,
Speaker 1: it's still summer, people are on vacation, spending a lot
Speaker 1: of money on TV ads right now. They're doing some,
Speaker 1: by the way, but I think would be just wasting
Speaker 1: the money. I think you want to keep your powder
Speaker 1: dry risks since it's a short campaign, But I think
Speaker 1: there's an interesting strategy to sit back and wait and see.
Speaker 1: First of all, I got to let the media gasm,
Speaker 1: as lucrease she puts it run its course. And by
Speaker 1: the way, this in the last two three days, you're
Speaker 1: starting to see some media people, mainstream media people, say hey,
Speaker 1: you know, she really does need to do a press conference.
Speaker 1: Oh what she is doing. By the way, this has
Speaker 1: been reported just in the last day or two. She's
Speaker 1: apparently spending a lot of time with reporters strictly off
Speaker 1: the record on her plane, so she's giving them quote
Speaker 1: unquote access, but she's not giving them anything on the record.
Speaker 1: I think this is like spring training for I think
Speaker 1: the campaign knows that she's prone to blowing it, and
Speaker 1: she's trying to get a game rhythm going. But I
Speaker 1: think it's a wise idea to let Harris flush herself out.
Speaker 1: She's going to flip flopping on everything, and flip flopping,
Speaker 1: by the way, always hurts candidates. So let her keep
Speaker 1: revising her positions. Let her say things like what you
Speaker 1: say this week, I'm going to bring down prices on
Speaker 1: day one in January and when I'm president, and like, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you do it now? You actually have a
Speaker 1: phone number for the tye right runs the country.
Speaker 3: And she's just she's just announced she's gonna engage on
Speaker 3: wager price controls and those are of course.
Speaker 1: Look, I think here's the thing. The other thing is
Speaker 1: is right now, Harris has a standard stump speech. She's
Speaker 1: saying the same thing in every one of these rallies.
Speaker 1: That's pretty normal. I mean, I remember following George W.
Speaker 1: Bush around to a few rallies in two thousand, so
Speaker 1: that's normal. What does Trump do? He gets up and
Speaker 1: you never know what he's gonna say. He never knows
Speaker 1: what he's going to say, right however, Well that means
Speaker 1: is the media. He gets huge media coverage. They hang
Speaker 1: on every word. They're going to report the crazy things
Speaker 1: he says, like attacking Governor camp in Georgia. But I
Speaker 1: also think that the press conference a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: it shows him energetic. It shows that he can stand
Speaker 1: up to the media. The subtle message is pretty clear
Speaker 1: that Kamala can't. And I also think that like Nick
Speaker 1: in sixty eight, you know, Nixon did these town halls.
Speaker 1: He go all over the country and he would talk
Speaker 1: for an hour with the I mean the pre screened
Speaker 1: audience of Republicans, perhaps, but the point was is they
Speaker 1: got out of that lots of footage for TV spots.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the guy who organized eyes that
Speaker 1: was Roger Ayles, and he said, we're going to show
Speaker 1: Nixon a good light with the way he answers to
Speaker 1: questions from people. I think you can get a lot
Speaker 1: of ad footage out of the Trump rallies and Trump
Speaker 1: press conferences that'll do well for him. And then finally,
Speaker 1: you know, I have said before that this election looks
Speaker 1: like in some ways a rerun of nineteen eighty eight
Speaker 1: when Ducoctus's leftism was exposed steadily. A lot of that
Speaker 1: was done by independent campaigns. You the Willie Horton ads
Speaker 1: were not done by the Bush campaign. And I think
Speaker 1: also you're going to see a lot of the attacks
Speaker 1: on Harris will come from the campaign and from third
Speaker 1: not third political parties, but you know, independent efforts, and
Speaker 1: that's going to turn the tide for Trump.
Speaker 3: So I listened to your your guys both a guest
Speaker 3: appearance on the Ricochet podcast or I felt like the
Speaker 3: child of divorce. My two parents went off and did
Speaker 3: some other podcasts without me. I'm gonna throw a temper
Speaker 3: tantrum and refuse to eat dinner until you get me
Speaker 3: some present.
Speaker 4: Okay, So well, I missed you, John.
Speaker 3: But one thing I heard, one thing I heard Lucretia
Speaker 3: say about you quite quite amusingly, Steve, was it you
Speaker 3: always decide things based on historical analogies, and those historical
Speaker 3: analogies don't fit, right, they don't fit. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to quit, right, Lucreature just said, Steve, why do you
Speaker 3: keep referring to all these things in the past. That
Speaker 3: was like fifty years ago, that was before the internet,
Speaker 3: that was before TikTok, that was before modern politics as
Speaker 3: we know it.
Speaker 4: Lucretias, I put something up just John, just this is
Speaker 4: a desperation. So maybe Steve wants to put it up.
Speaker 4: I'll explain it. So it's a thing from Twitter. It's
Speaker 4: a picture describing what I spoke of a moment ago,
Speaker 4: which is putting up the black curtains so that you
Speaker 4: can't see that the upper levels of the bleachers have
Speaker 4: no people in them, but one of the Kamala Harris's
Speaker 4: what would you call it, psychophants or whatever sycophants put
Speaker 4: up said Trump has ordered breaking. Trump has ordered his
Speaker 4: team to literally cover up entire levels of venues he's
Speaker 4: unable to fill with black cloths to make it appear
Speaker 4: as if there aren't thousands of empty seats with a
Speaker 4: fat laughing emoji. Except everybody and their brother pointed out,
Speaker 4: it's the Harris Waltz rally. It's not that that's how
Speaker 4: desperate they are. Okay, why would you ever do something
Speaker 4: like that if you knew that that Harris was so
Speaker 4: popular that she could not only fill an entire stadium
Speaker 4: but also fill you know, have huge crowds out waiting
Speaker 4: in line outside. I just this is part of the
Speaker 4: whole made up thing, just like the Poles as well.
Speaker 4: I'm saying Trump is doing fine.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 4: Vance is popular. They're doing everything they can to make
Speaker 4: him unpopular, but it's not working with anybody that matters.
Speaker 4: You know, the childless cat ladies aren't going to vote
Speaker 4: for Vance. I get it was out a reason. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think that the difference is Trump recognizes that somebody
Speaker 4: young and accomplished and smart like Vance, and he's not
Speaker 4: in any way intimidated by that. But it does it does.
Speaker 4: I mean, remember how worried all of us were if
Speaker 4: something happened to Biden that we'd end up with with
Speaker 4: the moron Kamala M. Dingdong as our president. She was
Speaker 4: an insurance policy. Whatever else you can say about JD.
Speaker 4: Vancy's not an insurance policy for Trump, right, And I
Speaker 4: just think that this is all a media subterfuge to
Speaker 4: try to get Conservatives to be somehow as usual firing
Speaker 4: at each other inside the firing squad instead of where
Speaker 4: they're supposed to be firing. That's what I think. There,
Speaker 4: You have it.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: So look, you guys are speechless now.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just a contrary to press the impression you
Speaker 3: get from the press. Lucretia's argument is right, Trump's in
Speaker 3: good shape. All this, all this media hype about Harris
Speaker 3: is just illusory. So let me just ask you in
Speaker 3: a kind of just bottom line fashion percentage chances that
Speaker 3: Trump's going to win sixty percent, sixty percent? Jesus, I
Speaker 3: mean sixty five sixty five percent.
Speaker 1: You're expecting more?
Speaker 3: No, I was expecting something a little closer.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: One of the other things, John, that's happened is that
Speaker 4: more and more states, and in some cases even like
Speaker 4: in Georgia, the the suspect states from the twenty twenty election,
Speaker 4: are implementing doing a much better job of implementing protections
Speaker 4: against voter fraud.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And I think that Republicans this time around are not
Speaker 4: going to be caught with their pants down on the
Speaker 4: whole issue of of you know, mail in ballots and
Speaker 4: so on. And I think that that's going to make
Speaker 4: the difference. You know, the the more extreme people that
Speaker 4: I respect and follow.
Speaker 3: When you say extreme, does that mean that they're more
Speaker 3: extreme than you?
Speaker 4: There might be more extreme than I'm willing to admit
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 1: John.
Speaker 3: We we forgot our need to I need to I mean,
Speaker 3: to some of these websites so I can turn them
Speaker 3: into Google for censoring.
Speaker 1: We forgot our tinfoil hats this morning, John. That okay,
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt. I was just stunned by that statement.
Speaker 4: They you know the big here. This is a common theme.
Speaker 4: I'll just put it this way. No, you don't want
Speaker 4: to talk about it, John, But the common theme is
Speaker 4: is so popular and so likely to win in a
Speaker 4: landslide that the only thing that will stop that is
Speaker 4: the same kind of voter fraud and cheating that occurred
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. That's the argument you hear everywhere. And
Speaker 4: so even though there's a focus on you know, Waltz,
Speaker 4: and there's a focus on what an idiot Kamala ding
Speaker 4: Dong is and all of that, you keep seeing reminders
Speaker 4: just remember, we've got to win by so much. They
Speaker 4: can't cheat. Just remember, we've got to keep them from cheating.
Speaker 4: We've got to stop mail in ballots for anybody. But
Speaker 4: X Florida just passed legislation that removed a bunch of
Speaker 4: foreigners from the roles, dead people from the roles. Other
Speaker 4: states are starting to do that, so it's going to
Speaker 4: be more difficult for the Democrats to cheat this time,
Speaker 4: fair and square. As Steve would say, right, do you have.
Speaker 3: Any last thoughts before we turn to stories that are important?
Speaker 3: Important story but flying under the radar because all the
Speaker 3: intention on the presidential left shore.
Speaker 1: No, We're going to be kicking this around for the
Speaker 1: next four months, So I'm happy for the moment.
Speaker 3: Four months is going to be years and years of this.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Is it really four months away still?
Speaker 1: Or three? Whatever it is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine if Trump wins? I mean, we'll
Speaker 3: never stop talking about all these issues or Harris too.
Speaker 3: So one of the stories that seems to be under
Speaker 3: the radar is the collapse of one of the great
Speaker 3: American companies. What is happening at Boeing? And I raised
Speaker 3: this in part to give Steve a hard time, who
Speaker 3: comes from a family of aeronautic industry, engineers and the
Speaker 3: appreciative who works with the military. What is going on
Speaker 3: with Boeing? And it wasn't just because of this airplane
Speaker 3: that fell out of the sky in Brazil. The first
Speaker 3: thing I thought was, oh God, not another Boeing. It's
Speaker 3: not airbus, right, not to be an air bus. But
Speaker 3: Boeing has been suffering from failure after failure. We just
Speaker 3: saw the news. I you know, you barely see it
Speaker 3: in the news. Once upon tome Many this would have
Speaker 3: been a big story. Is that the two astronauts that
Speaker 3: went up and the Boeing Starliner can't come back down
Speaker 3: until next year. Until next year, they're supposed to come
Speaker 3: back after a few days. Now they're and I bet
Speaker 3: they're going to be coming down on a Russian probably
Speaker 3: awesome kind of Russian contraption. But Steve, Steve, what is
Speaker 3: going on with Boeing is this? Is this the laws
Speaker 3: of another great American company? I mean, Boeing used to
Speaker 3: stand for American technical excellence. It was the great maker
Speaker 3: of airliners.
Speaker 1: What's happened? Yeah? So, by the way, for people who
Speaker 1: know good old sci fi comedy shows, I said, the
Speaker 1: next step is going to be for NASA to start
Speaker 1: sending really cheesy movies to the astronauts. They control the monitor.
Speaker 1: Right if if you're an old mystery science theater at
Speaker 1: three thousand FA as, I am.
Speaker 3: Oh god, okay, stuffing.
Speaker 1: Of course you don't. It's okay.
Speaker 3: I know what he's talking about. And I can't even
Speaker 3: believe you brought it up.
Speaker 1: Oh we are you guys? Are you guys are Kretns
Speaker 1: and Philistines. I'll just say that, uh, I have settle
Speaker 1: theories here. By the way, they do have a new
Speaker 1: CEO who took charge this week, and he did something
Speaker 1: I think took a very good, significant first step. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be based in Seattle, which is the
Speaker 1: beating heartbeat of our passenger planes. And I think there
Speaker 1: are two or three problems aside from the DEI issue,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people talk about. One is, you
Speaker 1: know balling, as you say, John used to specialize in airplane,
Speaker 1: you know, commercial aircraft, chiefly some I mean they made
Speaker 1: bombers in World War two and so forth. But they
Speaker 1: decided to become a big defense contractor several decades ago,
Speaker 1: and their business has been tilting that direction. So that's
Speaker 1: when they first moved headquarters to Chicago and then to Ardenton, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Chicago wasn't close enough the Pentagon, right, and I think
Speaker 1: that that has distracted them, made them I won't say lazy,
Speaker 1: but I think that it's often the case that if
Speaker 1: you go back and look at corporate history, a lot
Speaker 1: of conglomerates form and then they break up because they
Speaker 1: realized that you know it, and t to an old
Speaker 1: company that no longer exists, can't do all these far
Speaker 1: flung different kinds of businesses. Second, what was the second point?
Speaker 1: They decentralized too much. They contracted out too much. I
Speaker 1: think I know the sort of deputy general counsel of
Speaker 1: Boeing a little bit had dinner with him a year
Speaker 1: or so ago, and he was telling me, yeah, well
Speaker 1: we now have I think I think he said a
Speaker 1: number was fifty thousand suppliers outside suppliers, right. So you know,
Speaker 1: my family's company was one of them fifty years ago.
Speaker 1: You know, my dad got to fly in one of
Speaker 1: the first test flights of the seven forty seven in
Speaker 1: the late sixties.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you know in those days it was I know
Speaker 1: this because they you know, he would fly My dad
Speaker 1: would fly to Seattle a lot from la and and
Speaker 1: you know, nothing but respect and an admiration for the
Speaker 1: Bowling engineers and for how well the company ran. I
Speaker 1: can tell lots of stories about that that would take
Speaker 1: too long to unspool. But I suspect that older culture
Speaker 1: has gone, as so much of our older corporate culture
Speaker 1: has gone.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm watching our car companies right now to
Speaker 1: figure out if they're going to survive the electric vehicle mandate.
Speaker 1: So there's that. I do think. I'll say one last
Speaker 1: really politically incorrect thing. Actually, this may this may upset you. John.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the seven, the triple seven airplane Korean
Speaker 1: Airlines that crashed in San Francisco about five years ago?
Speaker 3: I remember it. I was on a plane about I
Speaker 3: was on the plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not on the plane, but I was.
Speaker 3: I was actually on a plane just about to land
Speaker 3: right behind it, and we were coming in for landing,
Speaker 3: and then the pilot just read the engines and pulled
Speaker 3: up and we landed in San Jose Airport. So why
Speaker 3: then you could see on the TV screens in the plane,
Speaker 3: oh what had happened?
Speaker 2: Is so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually coming into planes behind that on
Speaker 3: some Southwest flight just out of Orange County. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I was so.
Speaker 1: Now, without verging into the territory of the cliches about
Speaker 1: Asian drivers, Oh come on, oh.
Speaker 3: Steve, I guess Asians that I love. A good racial
Speaker 3: stereotype is not just the mess and x men. And
Speaker 3: I would say, the last place you ever want to
Speaker 3: try to park is in the parking lot at an
Speaker 3: Asian grocery store. I admit it, terrible parkers. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I count when I park at an Asian
Speaker 3: grocery store. I park all the way in the back
Speaker 3: where there's lots of spaces empty on both sides of me.
Speaker 3: What come on, it's Steve flying to seven seven seven
Speaker 3: with four guys in there in the cockpit.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I mean that that crash. I believe
Speaker 1: I'm right that crash was attributed to pilot error, you know,
Speaker 1: insufficient training and experience, and not the racial And this
Speaker 1: draws me back to the two max jet crashes five
Speaker 1: six years ago that started Boeing's downward spiral. And so
Speaker 1: they'd install this new automatic pilot system to compensate for
Speaker 1: the redesign. And that's a long story that was driven
Speaker 1: partly by environmental nonsense. And those two crashes were by
Speaker 1: third world pilots, I'll put it. Do not say say
Speaker 1: third world anymore, but they were. Now they're probably perfectly
Speaker 1: well trained pilots in the conventional sense, and Boeing should
Speaker 1: have done a better job of training pilots and simulators
Speaker 1: for the new system. American pilots, most of them come
Speaker 1: from the military. They've flown F sixteen's and right, they're
Speaker 1: used to flying really sensitive airplanes. I don't think and
Speaker 1: we Westing. I did write this up once and heard
Speaker 1: from a lot of people who think I'm right. I
Speaker 1: don't think very many American pilots would have made the
Speaker 1: mistakes those foreign pilots made that caused those two crashes.
Speaker 1: Boeing is too chicken to say out loud. Look, these
Speaker 1: pilots should have known to disengage the automatic pilot system
Speaker 1: and leveled out the plane. They didn't do that. They
Speaker 1: you know, they made all kinds of mistakes. And it
Speaker 1: is on Boeing, as I say, for not being more
Speaker 1: aware that this problem could happen. But I don't think
Speaker 1: any American pilot would have had a moment's difficulty getting
Speaker 1: out of the problem that new system caused.
Speaker 3: But Steve, the answer is for us to give third
Speaker 3: world countries propeller planes with wires that pull the runners
Speaker 3: back and forth, and the lighters.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. You know, my dad learned to
Speaker 1: fly for the Navy and the old the World War
Speaker 1: One style biplane in nineteen forty because that's all we
Speaker 1: had to track the pilots. Yeah, I've got these great
Speaker 1: pictures and looking like you know, Snoopy in the sopwith camel.
Speaker 3: So lucretia. What is going on at Boeing? You have
Speaker 3: the military key, expect that Boeing has a huge military business.
Speaker 3: What is going You see the same kind of competence
Speaker 3: going on. What the hell's going on?
Speaker 4: It's incompetence, but it's it's Everything Steve said is of
Speaker 4: course accurate, but it's a tiny part of what's really
Speaker 4: going on. And what's really going on is from kindergarten
Speaker 4: all the way through college, graduate school, and into the
Speaker 4: corporate world. We have now instituted affirmative action DEI. For
Speaker 4: the longest time, engineering and the other hard sciences were
Speaker 4: able to we're able to avoid the worst accesses of
Speaker 4: the DEI push but I mean, look at Budling is
Speaker 4: the perfect example. The idiot CEO. So that was the
Speaker 4: most important thing that they cared about. And we see,
Speaker 4: just like with United, exactly what that ends up doing.
Speaker 4: You know, United. The United CEO so that he wanted
Speaker 4: fifty percent of his pilots to be women and minorities. Sorry,
Speaker 4: I want my pilot to be I'll just say it,
Speaker 4: a white man who actually went through school when it mattered.
Speaker 1: And well, have you guys heard the comedian Rob Schneider
Speaker 1: stick on diversity in pilots at United Airlines? Well, if not,
Speaker 1: here it is Airlines. Last month the CEO he announced
Speaker 1: of all the hiring for all the new pilots that
Speaker 1: are coming up, is here all the hiring for the
Speaker 1: new pilots. The main focus is going to be diversity.
Speaker 1: What diversity?
Speaker 3: Not the best pilots you can find, the.
Speaker 1: Ones with the most hours in experience.
Speaker 4: There's the dog that's wrong. No diversity.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired
Speaker 2: of flying all the time with these white pilots landing
Speaker 2: safely and on time.
Speaker 3: Oh so you want you want, you want Tim Waltz
Speaker 3: fly on your plane?
Speaker 4: No, No, no, because, oh, did you see this stuff
Speaker 4: about how Tim Wltz is trying to pretend that he's
Speaker 4: somehow folks see because he went to some crappy state
Speaker 4: school in Minnesota, whereas U. G. D Vance is an elite.
Speaker 4: He went to Yale.
Speaker 1: I didn't break.
Speaker 4: These people are so not going to work the way
Speaker 4: back back to de I for a second. So the
Speaker 4: reason I think that's interesting. However, I don't want to
Speaker 4: harp on it because I've talked about it before. But
Speaker 4: I also think it's interesting that these major corporations Bowing
Speaker 4: because it's a defense contractor in the whole defense industry
Speaker 4: along with the military, has become DEI and woke. But
Speaker 4: John Deere, Harley Davidson, right now, those companies that decided
Speaker 4: they had to be woke, they had to be DEI,
Speaker 4: they had to be all of these these things. They
Speaker 4: had no clue about who their audience was, just like
Speaker 4: bud Light, and those particular companies are being bud lighted.
Speaker 4: Excuse the expression, right.
Speaker 1: Actually my joke was John Deere, send a Dear John
Speaker 1: letter to the DEI world.
Speaker 4: So the good, I mean, the bad news is is
Speaker 4: that we're going to see some of the ramifications of
Speaker 4: that DEI, especially for an important company like Boeing before
Speaker 4: it all gets fixed. But the good news is is
Speaker 4: that you know you, you can be one of those
Speaker 4: CEOs that wants to be in the club with the
Speaker 4: other CEOs and prove how woke you are. But it's
Speaker 4: going to cost you and more and more people are
Speaker 4: are looking at saying, you know what, you don't get
Speaker 4: my business. If I get during the entire Pride month,
Speaker 4: if I got a solicitation email or an urtisement email
Speaker 4: that had a Pride flag on it, I didn't even
Speaker 4: look at it. I deleted it. Oh excuse me, I
Speaker 4: take it back. I went to unsubscribe, unsubscribed and then
Speaker 4: deleted it, and I get a little email now, So
Speaker 4: it's kind of nice. So anyway, that's my thought about Boeing. Okay,
Speaker 4: the idea that they that they can't figure out how
Speaker 4: to bring the astronauts home, Steve, you might know something
Speaker 4: more about the technicalities of that than I do, but
Speaker 4: what an incredible embarrassment, right, And they are probably going
Speaker 4: to have to send Elon Musk is probably going to have.
Speaker 1: To price it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 3: So okay, so one more, Actually we have. I think
Speaker 3: we have time for one more under the radar story,
Speaker 3: which on any normal time would be fully covered dominating headlines.
Speaker 3: But actually maybe it intersects with the election. What is
Speaker 3: going on with the financial markets? We saw the stock
Speaker 3: market on Monday take a pretty steep dive, right, I
Speaker 3: think the markets lost what over three may be close
Speaker 3: to four percent of their value in one day. What
Speaker 3: did this normally be the occasion for much tearing of
Speaker 3: the hair? As you know, people's retirement accounts are falling
Speaker 3: under uh an administration that is touting its economic record
Speaker 3: is unmatched, right the Yeah, I mean people were saying
Speaker 3: on the Democratic side that this has been one of
Speaker 3: the most successful presidencies in the history of the United States. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but again, you know the markets and the economy. You
Speaker 3: barely hear about them now, Steve, what is so First?
Speaker 3: What does that show us about what's going on with politics?
Speaker 3: But also what's going on with the economy. Have you
Speaker 3: sold all of your four oh one k accounts and
Speaker 3: moved them into gold or bitcoin?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 1: I know the preach has.
Speaker 3: Got a significant bitcoin holding. I think she's actually mine
Speaker 3: bitcoin right now.
Speaker 4: I'm invested in guns. John, There you go.
Speaker 3: Have you really I love it?
Speaker 1: Well, it was Milton Freeman's birthday, a couple of Milton
Speaker 1: Freeman's birthday was a couple of weeks ago. And is
Speaker 1: he like to say markets will fluctuate. Uh, Look, there's
Speaker 1: been storm clouds for quite a while that were the
Speaker 1: economy is slowing down and maybe going to head into recession.
Speaker 1: It may be some months off, it may happen quickly. Employment,
Speaker 1: the employment reports, what's originally set this off. Plus a
Speaker 1: surprise move in the Central Bank of Japan to raise
Speaker 1: their interest rate caught everybody by surprise. Uh and in fact,
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. John, when the Japanese market went down
Speaker 1: twelve percent last Monday, I went and bought a japan
Speaker 1: fun because you know, when they're saying you really, I did,
Speaker 1: because it's already bounced back.
Speaker 3: I did not know this about you. Not only have
Speaker 3: you been on the Rickash on the not the Rickash
Speaker 3: of the Parilin podcast for hundreds of episodes. You are
Speaker 3: a gambler. You are a gambler.
Speaker 1: This is this is it's already bounced back five percent
Speaker 1: since anyway, look the what do you say?
Speaker 3: Uh so, Steve, you're a by on the dip man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of and well also, I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't like to play stock market tout, but right
Speaker 1: now the stock market is giving us a distorted pick.
Speaker 1: You can say it's way overvalued, and it's not really true.
Speaker 1: What's overvalued or the seven or eight high flying tech stocks,
Speaker 1: energy stocks, old fashioned energy stocks meaning oil and gas
Speaker 1: companies are still unbelievably undervalued, and everything else. It's kind
Speaker 1: of be in the line where it's been in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. Now. They will go up and down
Speaker 1: with the fortunes of the general economy and interest ration
Speaker 1: and so forth. But I think everyone's panicking and overreacting.
Speaker 1: But you have to have well gambling. I just say,
Speaker 1: you just have to some nerves and don't use leverage.
Speaker 1: A lot of people who got bit in the Japanese
Speaker 1: stock markets were heavily leveraged with what they call the
Speaker 1: yen carry trade. You borrow yen for nothing and then
Speaker 1: you know, you buy Japanese stocks on margin. Well suddenly,
Speaker 1: if you've got to pay higher interest rates your end,
Speaker 1: you're going to be in trouble. So I think this
Speaker 1: is all a temporary blip, not to say the market
Speaker 1: won't go down when the economy tanks in a few months,
Speaker 1: but everybody should just relax.
Speaker 4: So that got my conspiracy hat this morning. Uh, but
Speaker 4: I actually find it incredibly odd that that it blipped
Speaker 4: so quickly, Steve, and I actually I do because I
Speaker 4: know that you had people probably over exaggerating the threat
Speaker 4: to the long term health of our economy and so
Speaker 4: forth on Monday afternoon. But I mean it was it
Speaker 4: wasn't even a story the next day. It was not
Speaker 4: even a story anyway. So I don't know enough and
Speaker 4: never cared enough to learn about it. I just find
Speaker 4: that suspicious, shall we say, because I mean, there is
Speaker 4: no doubt that that would have I had that continued,
Speaker 4: had the that actually put us into recession, had the
Speaker 4: stock market crash continued into a week or more, it
Speaker 4: would have in fact blown any chance that Harris ever
Speaker 4: had of winning the presidency. I believe that, and that's
Speaker 4: why I believed that there was probably some manipulation going on.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, stay tuned, I could. I mean
Speaker 1: there's two you know, John, what a day for me
Speaker 1: to annoy Lucreature with my historical analogy man?
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, so here he is, folks analogy man
Speaker 4: one of Reagan.
Speaker 1: One of Reagan's great moments. There are two great moments,
Speaker 1: with Reagan's stock market in the eighties and the fall
Speaker 1: of eighty one, when the stock market was tanking. A
Speaker 1: reporter says to Reagan in a press conference, gosh, Wall
Speaker 1: Street doesn't seem to think much of your economic program,
Speaker 1: and Reagan replied, I've never found Wall Street to be
Speaker 1: a very good source of economic advice, which is totally
Speaker 1: hinter Knox for Republican right. But then you know, look
Speaker 1: the crash, Steve, Yeah, the crash of eighty seven, which
Speaker 1: I remember vividly. That was twenty two percent in one day.
Speaker 1: What was it the other day, John, two percent or something. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think there are that big and it bounced back.
Speaker 1: To the point is is after the eighty seven crash,
Speaker 1: the left in particular said, well it's over, it's nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty nine all over again. Turned out not to be
Speaker 1: true at all. It took the market eighteen months to
Speaker 1: recover that loss. That was largely an interest rate problem.
Speaker 1: That's a long story and some other weirdness. But the
Speaker 1: point was is that wasn't an indicator at all of
Speaker 1: the underlying strength of the economy as the next two
Speaker 1: years proved. So that's why I think people should not
Speaker 1: get overly excited and changes in the stock market.
Speaker 4: The difference is analogy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: The indicators of the underlying economy in this case are
Speaker 4: not strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're weakening.
Speaker 4: And that's why I mean, I'm not really jumping quickly
Speaker 4: to these conspiracy conclusions, but the economy's not strong. Inflation
Speaker 4: is still a very big problem. Sure enough, the stock
Speaker 4: market has been doing great under Biden, with the unemployment,
Speaker 4: all of those things, and they needed to fix that
Speaker 4: situation quickly, and or I think it would have been catastrophic.
Speaker 4: I still don't think she's gonna win, but that's my belief,
Speaker 4: but you know, based on nothing other than my my
Speaker 4: cute little tinfoil cowboy hat.
Speaker 3: Okay, last issue again, I think this is a really
Speaker 3: important issue that it seems to be getting, you know,
Speaker 3: not even on the front page these days. Is Ukraine
Speaker 3: has invaded Russia. What's some success American weaponry with so
Speaker 3: you know, the Lucretia go ahead?
Speaker 4: Does this?
Speaker 3: Is this bringing World War three even closer? As you say,
Speaker 3: the units Ukraine has been achieving, the success with American
Speaker 3: armor American tactic strategy, ammunition. That much vaunted offensive that
Speaker 3: Ukraine was supposed to carry out last year, which failed,
Speaker 3: seems to be now having moved into Russia proper. Is
Speaker 3: this really for this again? Is this brakemanship of the
Speaker 3: worst order? Or is this yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, First letting and and the the despicable news
Speaker 4: pages of the Wall Street Journal this morning actually actually
Speaker 4: had a story saying Ukraine needs more men, but everybody
Speaker 4: who wants, who is willing to fight, is already has
Speaker 4: already signed up, has already gone, They're already dead. This
Speaker 4: is I just want to make it a bigger story
Speaker 4: for right now, because, believe it or not, John, this
Speaker 4: is where I get the most negative comments, even more
Speaker 4: than from the women who don't like me, calling them
Speaker 4: childless cat ladies. And that is that you know, somehow
Speaker 4: I'm a stooge for for Putin et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Really do you atoo for? I mean everyone knows Putin
Speaker 3: is your stooch?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, he wishes. Seriously, seriously, no, I might argue.
Speaker 4: Before my argument, I just want to say, part of
Speaker 4: the reason that you saw Republican establishment type being so
Speaker 4: upset about Jade Vance as he has the same opinion
Speaker 4: about the Ukraine situation that I do. And I'm just
Speaker 4: going to make the bigger argument without getting into tactics
Speaker 4: and all those other things, that the thing that worries
Speaker 4: me the most right now about the entire international situation
Speaker 4: is the idiots in charge. They don't know what they're
Speaker 4: doing with Iran. They don't know what they're doing obviously
Speaker 4: with Israel. With Iran, Israel has belawed that whole thing.
Speaker 4: They don't know what they're doing with Ukraine, and I
Speaker 4: do think that they're stupid. I believe in the what
Speaker 4: would it be, the structure of our American foreign policy
Speaker 4: has some stability to it that even idiots like Jake
Speaker 4: Sullivan and Blincoln and all those others can't quite overcome yet.
Speaker 4: But it's been disintegrating, and I'm worried. I'm worried that
Speaker 4: something like a you know, a larger conflict that they
Speaker 4: won't necessarily see as a terrible thing because it'll be
Speaker 4: the rally round our great commander in chief Kamalama ding Dong.
Speaker 4: All of those things concern me. Again, we could spend
Speaker 4: a lot of time we don't have time debating the
Speaker 4: wisdom of Ukraine's offensive here, but they need I'm hoping
Speaker 4: Trump wins so that he can get in there negotiated
Speaker 4: settlement and get it over with. Stop killing Russians, stop
Speaker 4: killing Ukrainians, bring some measure of stability. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I'd call it peace to that area and get
Speaker 4: it out of the headlines.
Speaker 1: That's my hope, Steve, Yeah, so a two sentence detour.
Speaker 1: There was some reporting here a few days ago, including
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, that one of the reasons
Speaker 1: you got the hostage swap of ten days ago now
Speaker 1: was because the Russians were worried about what Trump might
Speaker 1: do with this issue. That was actually in the reporting.
Speaker 1: I wonder if something similar happening now with the dynamic
Speaker 1: over Ukraine. Look, I've never been as hostile as Lucretia
Speaker 1: to backing our back in Ukraine. I have been deeply
Speaker 1: skeptical and critical from the beginning for the same reasons
Speaker 1: as her, that our strategist, our leaders, Biden and all
Speaker 1: the rest don't know what they're doing. So there was
Speaker 1: reports here in the last couple of weeks that the Ukrainians,
Speaker 1: using our weapons wanted to target apparently a whole lot
Speaker 1: of Russian aircraft at an air base where they, I
Speaker 1: guess improbably have lined them up next to each other
Speaker 1: like we did at Pearl Harbor in nineteen forty one,
Speaker 1: and we said no, I mean, we're actually vetoing targets
Speaker 1: inside Russia. We have been preventing them from attacking very
Speaker 1: seriously inside Russia, which is what you would do if
Speaker 1: you wanted to force either a win or b increase
Speaker 1: the pressure to force the negotiate a settlement. So what's
Speaker 1: surprising to me about what's happening is is clearly we
Speaker 1: have given them the green light to attack inside Russia Ukraine,
Speaker 1: which is for the reasons Lucretia mentioned short of manpowers
Speaker 1: decided it's worth while taking the gamble to do this.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's paying off if you believe the
Speaker 1: news reports. Who knows. I think Russia is badly extended,
Speaker 1: but they do have deeper reserves of people and material
Speaker 1: to throw at this problem. So the two questions are, again,
Speaker 1: what is our Do we have a clear strategy or
Speaker 1: are we improvising like we did in Vietnam in the
Speaker 1: same stupid ways? And second, how long we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: shoveling huge sums of money. I do believe that the
Speaker 1: equalizer is if we give them enough money and weapons,
Speaker 1: we can keep them in the fight. But I don't
Speaker 1: see what the endgame here is and so I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then then there is this risk that if you
Speaker 1: do back, if you do allow Ukraine to be more
Speaker 1: aggressive and attack deep inside Russia. By the way, Ukrainians
Speaker 1: could attack Moscow and other major sites if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: and you know, how would Putin react? Who knows, But
Speaker 1: if they you know, if he starts using tactical nuclear weapons,
Speaker 1: Europe is just gonna come. We're gonna freak out and
Speaker 1: come apart. And so it's very higher what's going on.
Speaker 1: And I wish I had more confidence that these people
Speaker 1: knew what the heck they were doing.
Speaker 4: Analogy, man, I can't believe you missed it. What to
Speaker 4: talk about what happened in nineteen eighty with the Iranian
Speaker 4: hostage quickly and how quickly those hostages were released once
Speaker 4: Reagan was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, that has been on my mind so right,
Speaker 1: and you know, the hostages were there, and Reagan kept
Speaker 1: calling them barbarians, and you know, privately, the Carter people
Speaker 1: were quite correctly briefing the Reagan team every day and
Speaker 1: what was going on, and the Reagan team said, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to stay out of the way. We're not
Speaker 1: going to give you suggestions.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's but the Reagan people didn't really have a plan,
Speaker 1: they didn't know what they were going to do. They
Speaker 1: were relieved when they didn't have to deal with it
Speaker 1: on day one. But the joke going around, and I
Speaker 1: remember there were a couple of newspaper editorial cartoons. The
Speaker 1: joke was, what's black flat as a pancake and clothes
Speaker 1: in the dark? Answer Iran? After Reagan comes president. One
Speaker 1: of the editorial cartoon shows a couple of malas saying,
Speaker 1: maybe we got to think about this problem. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, Reagan's tough talk and
Speaker 1: the uncertainty of what he might do contributed to settling
Speaker 1: that problem by January twenty and the same thing could happen.
Speaker 1: Now that's the optimistic case. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of clowns running things.
Speaker 4: And so for the five hundredth episode of the Powerling podcast,
Speaker 4: there you have Lucretia actually asking analogy man for an
Speaker 4: historical analogy.
Speaker 1: Michaelus is a win.
Speaker 3: What a way to celebrate.
Speaker 4: Well, last last topic, I forgot to tell you. I
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about it, John really quick. The Olympics.
Speaker 4: I know Steve said he watched a few. I've seen
Speaker 4: a couple of clips.
Speaker 3: I've been watching them. I watched them all the time.
Speaker 3: I love the Olympics, I do well. I think I
Speaker 3: love the reaffirmation of people rooting for the nation state,
Speaker 3: even though the whole damn thing's organized by a typical
Speaker 3: globalist delete. But people don't care about those people. What
Speaker 3: they really want to see is their country win. I
Speaker 3: love the patriotism of it. I love it when those
Speaker 3: the crazy Dutch get out there and show their national spirit,
Speaker 3: even though we know they don't have any left.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say the the fifteen hundred meter men's
Speaker 1: finals the greatest fifteen hundred meter race ever run.
Speaker 3: I'm just I did watch clips of that mean one
Speaker 3: where the Americans snuck in nobody was watching for him,
Speaker 3: and he won the gold medal.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the little British girl who just took off, the
Speaker 4: pretty little blonde British girl running against all the other
Speaker 4: and she was just in the pack and then she
Speaker 4: just took off like she hadn't been trying. I only
Speaker 4: mentioned that because that also shows to John's point that
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of something to be proud of
Speaker 4: left in the UK. Not much though, not much at all.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I hope you know, I told
Speaker 4: I told these guys that I repost everything I possibly
Speaker 4: can on on x that is that might contribute to
Speaker 4: rioting in the UK by white ring white right wing
Speaker 4: what does he call them something? Yeah, anyway, So I'm hoping,
Speaker 4: because I told them the Lucretia compound needs a little
Speaker 4: bit of a live target practice, I'm hoping that the
Speaker 4: British Bobbies that I've done show up at my house
Speaker 4: to extradite me to England for fomenting riots with my
Speaker 4: social media posts. Yeah, I'm still I'm upset about I'm
Speaker 4: upset that we tolerate a man uh winning the women's boxing.
Speaker 4: The fact that that's tolerated really really bothers me. From
Speaker 4: beginning to end, the whole thing has been not not
Speaker 4: the athletes for the most part that like you say,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's amazing to watch human what are probably
Speaker 4: superhuman feats of athleticism. You know, slugs like me can
Speaker 4: only sit there and just sort of dream about it.
Speaker 4: But I agree with that, But the whole thing has
Speaker 4: just been really, really disturbing, I guess is the best
Speaker 4: way to put it.
Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, you have a wonderful national patriotism
Speaker 3: on one side, but you do have, unfortunately, the influence
Speaker 3: of this ridiculous global elite and allowing men to be
Speaker 3: in the boxing competition. Also the weird sports. Although I
Speaker 3: know Steve is probably all in favor of breakdancing being Olympics,
Speaker 3: I find that ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is. There's too many of these strange sports.
Speaker 4: You know. It's wasn't that the one where they push
Speaker 4: the disc down the wooden.
Speaker 3: Of That's Winter Olympics. That's Winter Olympics. Yeah, totally. I'm
Speaker 3: not even sure why there is a why there should
Speaker 3: be in our Olympics. But anyway, we've got to the
Speaker 3: end of our show, and so I believe Steve is
Speaker 3: going to post about this. But because we've removed our
Speaker 3: bite in references in our closing segment, we need to
Speaker 3: replace it with something new. And I believe Steve said
Speaker 3: that we were going to invite the listeners. Yeah, to
Speaker 3: make various proposals and suggestions about what our new sign
Speaker 3: off should be in the age of Harris.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't really pushed that idea because I
Speaker 1: don't think I have any from listeners yet, so I'm still.
Speaker 4: So let's put it out there now.
Speaker 3: Listen right next, listeners, please to celebrate our five hundredth universary,
Speaker 3: you yourself have the opportunity right and to come up
Speaker 3: and suggest.
Speaker 4: But don't you skip me, John, because I have some
Speaker 4: great Babylon Bees.
Speaker 3: No, this is the only part we're keeping, is the
Speaker 3: Babylon Bee.
Speaker 1: I'll just say this as a guideline to listeners who
Speaker 1: are interested in this contest, and maybe I'll make one
Speaker 1: of my new book collections by available as a price.
Speaker 1: You always want to take something a leftist has said
Speaker 1: that you can mock, so you know, for a while
Speaker 1: I was using Samantha Power saying talking about wanting to
Speaker 1: milk the soft power dividend, which is one of the
Speaker 1: silliest things I'd ever heard.
Speaker 4: So, yes, we used to do that, and now is
Speaker 4: the time to do what we've been doing in that
Speaker 4: time is every day. But we made our own that
Speaker 4: was now is the time to drink the whiskey that
Speaker 4: we have been drinking, right, and that time is every day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that wasn't a bad one, but I think we have
Speaker 4: to do a better Kamelamma ding Dong And there's plenty
Speaker 4: of things to choose out there, all right, So Babylon Beat.
Speaker 4: Speaking of kam Lamma ding Dong, she desperately googles what
Speaker 4: is a stock market crash spend's flight looking for cloud
Speaker 4: where her data is stored, and it's a picture of
Speaker 4: her looking out the window of her airplane. Trump's concerned
Speaker 4: if he beats Kamalama ding Dong in a debate, they
Speaker 4: might replace her with someone good this time. Well, that's
Speaker 4: funny back a little ways, you know, this was This
Speaker 4: was really all absolutely current only a week ago. Now
Speaker 4: seems like ancient news. Josh Shapiro annoyed he got this
Speaker 4: death to Israel neck tattoo for nothing. Democrats worried choosing
Speaker 4: Jewish vice president would have cost them the all important
Speaker 4: Death to America vote. The my Olympics sad Olympics official
Speaker 4: unable to get female boxing gold medal over giant Adams
Speaker 4: Apple John Does I get it? Get it all right,
Speaker 4: another ancient history, Now suspicions rises, new footed shows secret
Speaker 4: Service helping a just Trump shoot scope. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: And I'll end with a few. Tim Waltz says, one
Speaker 4: man's gulag is another man's vacation resort. Tim wal says,
Speaker 4: guy guarding tomb of unknown soldier, why he doesn't just
Speaker 4: desert him? Jim walds to make America as great as Minneapolis.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna end with this one for Steve. Boeing
Speaker 4: compensates stranded astronauts with fifty dollars red lobster gift cards.
Speaker 1: Right, that sounds about right? Yeah, all right, John starting
Speaker 1: to launch us.
Speaker 3: Out, and we always drink your whiskey meat and we
Speaker 3: need a replacement for Let's go Brandon, Steve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the three whiskey happy Hour, unburdened by what
Speaker 1: has been anxious for what might yet be. Bye bye, everybody,
Speaker 1: see you next week.
Speaker 3: Bye everybody.
Speaker 1: And Ricochet joined the conversation.