Speaker 1: Hello everybody, This is Brad Moore coming to you from Monroe, Louisiana,
and you were listening to the one and only Surely
you Can't Be Serious Podcast.
Speaker 2: Enjoy Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirtley You
Can't Be Serious Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am back. I am driving a nice red convertible
instead of a crappy blue Chevy Nova. I've got a
Detroit Lions jacket. I've rest their poor souls.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 1: It's a tragic, tragic thing. I was so rooting for
that team.
Speaker 3: They were on their way to the super Bowl and
then they do what they do choke. Yeah they blew it. Yeah,
they blew it.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 3: That leads me right into something that I forgot to
mention last time. Yeah, the Mumford T shirt that Eddie
Murphy wears in Beverly Hills cop Yeah, was a actual
high school in Detroit, Okay, where I found out Ali Willis,
who wrote the song Neutron Dance. That's where she went
to high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna talk about the soundtrack on a
later episode. We're gonna do the soundtrack versus the Miami
Vice soundtrack.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: But she's a part of the original the Beverly Hills
Cop soundtrack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: She was working with the Pointer sisters, right, she did,
no doubt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they put Neutron dance to that opening car
sequence in Beverly Hills Cop is awesome.
Speaker 1: It's perfect.
Speaker 3: It's off the charts good.
Speaker 1: That's the stage perfectly.
Speaker 3: And he's smashing cars and blowing crap up.
Speaker 1: He had an ibam inside of his bumper to keep
that thing from getting dented as he blasted through all
of that.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the practical effects where they just
destroying cars.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: We're back today to talk about Beverly Hills Cop One
versus Beverly Hills Cop Part two. We keep leaking into
Beverly Hills Cop one.
Speaker 1: Well that's because it's the better movie.
Speaker 3: Oh, your judgment is coming out here.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't help it. I mean, I just like
I watched that movie. I mean I enjoyed it in
nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight or whenever it was
that I finally watched you know, could sneak it on
h HBO or whatever, right, and was able to watch
Beverly Hills Cop Two. I liked it a lot and I.
But in rewatching it, I was just like, there are
three things that I like about this movie. Three number
one Shakedown, Yeah, it's good. Number two the Playboy Mansion, volleyball,
and number three the three eighty five Club. And those
are the only figurings that I like about this movie.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, when you turn Eddie Murphy and Don Simpson
loose and just say, let's crank up Beverly Hills Cop
one two eleven, that's what you get.
Speaker 1: Well, and Beverly Hills Cop two. I mean the original idea,
Simpson's original idea was for it to take place in
London in Paris.
Speaker 3: That would have been fun.
Speaker 4: Did you look at the title of the movie. It's
Beverly Hills Cop. It's not London Cop. It's not Paris Cop.
It's not an American detch cop in Paris.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Do I think that that
would have been interesting? Well, I'm not positive, but it
would have been different. Instead, we got basically a straight remake.
Speaker 1: Right. They upped the ante on a lot of stuff.
They picked the stuff that they liked the best, and
that was different.
Speaker 3: Here's where I think they missed the boat. I think
that it would have been interesting to have you know,
Bogamill shot and Rosewood and Taggart go to Detroit.
Speaker 1: That could be good.
Speaker 3: I think that that would have been interesting. Yeah, that
could be good, you know, and maybe call it Beverly
Hills Cops.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know, alien aliens thing.
Speaker 3: Do something different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. So, as I mentioned, Marty Brests
did not direct this part two, why did he not
come back for part two? Because well, they asked him,
but he said, well, I already made my Beverly Hills
Cop movie. I don't want to make it again. I
want to do something else, okay, And so he does
Midnight Run instead, which is I mean, it's similar to
a buddy cop movie, but it's his movie. Like most
of the movies that he did were things that he
had had a heavy hand in writing, Beverly Hills Cops
is an exception to that, and so he wanted to
do his own take on this.
Speaker 3: So Simpson and Bruckheimer are like, well, you know, we
did just make this movie called Top Gun. It did, okay,
so let's get our man, Tony Scott.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had pulled Tony again. Tony Scott was thinking
he was hopeless as well. And this was a thing.
This was a cool thing about Simpson and Bruckheimer is
that they didn't they didn't try to necessarily get guys
who were doing great things. They tried to pick guys
who they thought could do great things. I love it.
Speaker 3: It's like scouting talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, to throw back to our old Top Gun episode,
Tony Scott had done this horrible vampire movie called The Hunger.
Speaker 3: It was terrible.
Speaker 1: It was yes, it was like, no, I've never heard
anybody speak in a complimentary way of this movie. It was.
It was an art house vampire, terrible movie, right right,
with David Bowie is that right?
Speaker 3: And Susan Sarandon.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So nobody wanted to him to direct anything,
but he did doing commercials still, right. He and his
brother Ridley had this commercial company over in England. Yep.
They did advertisements and he did this one for the
SOB car I believe, yeah, right, that's right. And it
had a big jet in it. Yep. And they Bruckheimer
and Simpsons see this ad and they're like, there's the
guy that can do our aviator movie. Right.
Speaker 3: Obviously perfect for Top Gun because he can do cars.
Speaker 1: You know. Well it did have a jet in the
in the ad, right, right, And so so they bring
him in and he does a great job. He liked
to do artistic movies like The Hunger, and he wasn't
getting it whenever they first started trying to do things
with Top Gun. And finally, after many many meetings with
Simpson and Bruckheimer, he finally says, so, you just basically
want me to make a rock video that's a full
length movie. And they said, yes, right, that is exactly
what we want you to do. So inner Beverly Hills
Cop Two and they say, give us another rock video.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Now, before we get off, Tony Scott, I
just want to talk about him for just a second. Yeah,
tragically he committed to Side in twenty.
Speaker 1: Twelve, that's right, yeah twelve.
Speaker 3: I just love his movies, right, and you talk about
how he wanted he was more interested in making art
house movies. But listen to this run. Okay, So he
does The Hunger in eighty three, which I thought sucked. Okay, Well,
he does Top Gun in eighty six, which I absolutely adore,
Belly Hills Cop two, Revenge with Kevin Costner, Days of
thunder Last Boy Scout, True.
Speaker 1: Romance, Damon Wayne's Again.
Speaker 3: Crimson Tide, The Fan, Enemy State, Spy Game, Man on Fire, Domino,
Deja Vous, The Taking a Pillom one two three, and
Unstoppable Before his Death. That list, those are all good movies, Okay.
Speaker 1: Man on Fire may be one of the few of
those that I have seen. I kind of wonder if
Damon Waynes, whenever he was auditioning for the Last Boy Scout,
was like, I've already been in one of your movies before,
you know, Chris, Tony Scout wasn't involved in Oh that's right, Yeah,
that's right. It would have just been the yeah, yeah,
But there you go. You do have at least a
Kevin Bacon connection.
Speaker 3: There, right. So I gotta tell you this Tony Scott
Eddie Murphy story. Okay, Okay, So Simpson and Bruckheimer they
had just done Top Gun with Tony Scott. They don't
need to be convinced, right, but they want Tony Scott
to meet Eddie Murphy. And let's make sure we get
you know, the chemistry right. And Eddie Murphy's cool with this, right,
because literally, Eddie Murphy is sitting on top of the
world and really can call his own shot on this deal, right,
So they fly Tony Scott out to New Jersey to
meet with Eddie Murphy. So Tony Scott and Eddy Murphy
go to a poolhole and they're playing pool, and Eddie
plays a game and wins, and so they're gonna play
a second game, and they're talking about the movie and
they're working things out in their mind and they're discussing it,
and so in the middle of the game, Eddie goes
to the bathroom or whatever vanishes, and Tony Scott's just
kind of standing there waiting and waiting and waiting middle
of the game, middle of the game, like, it's your shot, Eddie.
Speaker 1: Where are you had bet? Are you pooping? You have
some taco bell before we got here.
Speaker 3: So one of the guys in Eddie's entourage comes back
and says, Eddie likes you. He's gonna work with you.
And he's like, I guess we're done playing pool, and
he just walked out. He didn't even say goodbye, he
just left.
Speaker 1: How yeah, Freema Donna indeed, yeah, yeah, Well this again,
and that kind of goes back to what we talked
about the difference between how Eddie Murphy was with John
Landis on trading Places versus how they were together on
coming to America. No, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's talk about the production of Bellly Hills
Cop Part two. Wake up.
Speaker 1: This is what we always talked about. So look alive.
You may never see it again. Okay. So here's the thing.
Beverly Hills Cop Part Two was initially not supposed to
be a movie. It was supposed to be a TV series.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't understand how you make three
hundred million dollars on a movie and then say we
should make a TV series out of this. I mean,
is the money better for TV in the eighties. I
can't think that that's possible.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: You think Eddi Murphy's gonna make TV?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said no, I'm done with TV. I'm not
doing that, and so they said, okay, I guess we'll
make it a movie. Now. The original writers that were
involved with that. I keep in mind, Dan Bach had
written this thing in nineteen seventy seven, right, I mean,
it took it took years before it even became a movie.
And then Dan Petrie gets involved and makes it into
a comedy, and you've had multiple relook rights, including one
by Sylvester Stallone. Right, And so by the time you
get to let's make part two, let's feed off, let's
horror off of the success of our original movie, They're like, okay, well,
let's bring in some guys that have written some good
scripts or rewrites that they've done that will give us
a good movie. And so they say, all right, we've
got Larry Ferguson, who we talked about in our Highlander episode.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Larry Ferguson's the writer of Highlander. Wow. And he
also did Hunt for Red October, and he also came
up when we were talking about what the heck cappened
with Alien three. He was one of those five or
six different writers that was involved with Alien three. And
then they also brought in Warren Scarin, who at this
point was on the verge of something great because he
had done Beetlejuice and he was about to help write Batman.
Oh wow yeah Wow. So they bring those guys in
to write the script, and the story idea comes from
Eddie Murphy, or at least half of the story idea.
Sure and so those guys come in, they put together
the script. As I mentioned just a bit ago, Marty
Brest is out because he doesn't want to do another
Beverly Hills cop movie. He's doing Midnight Express and I run. Yeah,
they wanted Hans Zimmer to do the soundtrack, and they're like,
we should probably offer it to Harold Faltemeyer since you know,
he had the number one hit song that was part
of I.
Speaker 3: Don't really get that because Harold Faltemyer was all over
top gun.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But as I said, original
idea London, Paris, Eddie said, I do not want to
go oversea, so he nixed that one.
Speaker 3: So here's the deal, Eddie Murphy has all the power, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made eight million dollars for this movie. That
was his salary for the movie, and it's worth every
penny and probably had a you know, production credit as
well that got him even more money. But sure that
was he walked in the door with eight million bucks
in his pocket.
Speaker 3: So literally at this time, you're like, okay, Eddie, here's
what we're thinking. Axel goes to Europe and he's like,
now I don't I don't want to film out of
the US. Okay, okay, Eddie says, no, No, that's it right.
Speaker 1: All right, scratch that, Okay, that script away?
Speaker 3: Where does this? Well, how did I come up with this?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: How about TV? We're gonna do TV. We we're thinking
we're doing a TV show. No, Eddie says, no, okay,
back to square one. Yeah, and Eddie gets involved with
the storytelling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and then here's what's interesting. The love interest
character that was supposed to be the love interest in
Beverly Hills Cop one right right, with Sylvester Stallone. Sylvester
Stallone makes a movie, right, he makes this movie Cobra, Yes,
and as his love interest from this script that he wrote,
from what he did with the Beverly Hills cop he
casts in that part. Who Brigitte Nielsen? Bridget Nielsen?
Speaker 3: Yes, And of course she had been in Rocky four
also with him.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, yeah, and and and they were married. They
were married at the point they were that Beverly Hills
Cop two was getting cast.
Speaker 3: Until Tony Scott started sleeping with his wife.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you, as a guy who's built
like Tony Scott, decide I'm going to sleep with Sylvester
Stallone's wife. Right, wow, you were? You mentioned we did
trivia the other night and you mentioned I'm ready for
the question of name the actress that has had an
affair with and what's the list?
Speaker 3: Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 1: So that's just alone, uh, Cobra, Rocky four yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, Flavor Flave, oh whoa yea, and Tony's got yeah,
and that football player too, right? Oh and mar Gastino
that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was living her good life.
Speaker 3: I guess she is not afraid to try to latch
onto different guys who can help her out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and how can you blame any guy for
getting caught up in that?
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I want to talk about that for just
a second. I want to get off in the lured
details here. But when she did red Sonya with Ernest Schwarzenegger,
Arnes Schwarzenegger was about to get married to Maurice Shrever,
right right, she was dating Sylvester Stallone and Arnie and
Sly had had this incredible competition.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hated each other and.
Speaker 3: Apparently she and Arnold got very freaky, like doing weird
stuff in their relationship.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, this is PG thirteen episodes, So we can't
go into that. No, you could leave it. Let that.
You can't go further than that. You've reached the door
of the PG thirteen rate. There you go. Yeah, Okay,
so they decide there needs to be a six foot
blonde in this and now I just happen to have
one in my back pocket.
Speaker 4: I don't want to take the shave those legs anyway.
Speaker 1: I suppose you're trying to be charming. Actually, I'm just
offering my grooming services.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the cast before, I mean, we can
talk about Nielsen. Yeah, she had done as we said,
she had done red Sonia, she had done Rocky four,
she had done Cobra and now I mean she's she's
not on a hot strike herself.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, she had done Playboy. Wow. Yeah, Google search.
Speaker 3: So she's kind of one of the main bad guys
in this movie. Yeah, Now, this movie suffers because it
has too many bad guys in my opinion, maybe, Yeah,
who's the real bad guy? And what are we doing?
Who cares? We're having fun. We're hanging out with Eddie
Murphy and we're driving cement trucks around.
Speaker 1: Are you driving with your eyes open. Are you like
using the flour?
Speaker 3: So you've got Jurgen proc now plays Maxwell Dent.
Speaker 1: What else has he been in?
Speaker 3: He was in dos Boot.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I feel like I remember him
from dost Boot.
Speaker 3: He plays like the Jesus character in the Demi Moore
Seventh Sign movie from eight.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's it, that's what I remember him from.
Speaker 3: Yes, he actually dubbed Sylvester Stallone's lines in the German.
Speaker 1: The German Double German of Rocky, Oh of Rocky. Yeah,
that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Stallone's all the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In fact, he's on a poster in Billy's apartment.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it, like they're making it there. That was
a joke. That was the inside joke. Because it's part two.
They know that Cobra was made from Sylvester Stalan's version
of Beverly Hills Cops. So in addition to that, the
other throwback is that Judge Reinhold at some point opens
up his trunk and just starts pulling out all of
these guns, which is a throwback to his first meeting
with Don Simpson, where Don Simpson had done essentially the
exact same thing.
Speaker 3: Right and Taggart says, f Rambo, and you know somebody
was aff and Rambo.
Speaker 1: Who.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got returning in part two. We've got
Adie Murphy back. We've got Judge Rehnhold back. We get
Ronnie Cox a little bit. He gets shot early on.
Speaker 1: Well, he was filming RoboCop. He had gotten such a
good reputation from playing the part that he did on
the first Beverly Hills Cop that he's tapped to play
RoboCop with the not evil police chief but evil corporate head,
but still the same type of guy.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Then you've got John Ashton back as Taggart.
Speaker 1: Do I really look like Gerald Ford?
Speaker 4: You'll both look like Gerald Ford.
Speaker 3: You get Paul Riser back as Jeffrey. You get gil
Hill back as Detective Todd.
Speaker 1: I just thought that there was a problem. Don't think
it makes my skid.
Speaker 3: And then you add kind of a hodgepodge of other people. Okay,
I want to go through this. This is Don Simpson
out of his coked out finest right here. Okay. You
get Dean Stockwell as a bad guy. He's mister kin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You get Gilbert Godfried in a cameo that's so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his character's name is Sidney Bernstein. Right, he plays
the accountant, right, and oh, come in because the office
door being closed is obviously an indication that you should
walk right in.
Speaker 3: Don't let that stop you, Dora shut. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's sid Bernstein. I don't know if you
remember this, but when we did our Best of nineteen
eighty four, just a couple of episodes ago, I mentioned
that Laura Branigan, her manager's name was sid Bernstein. She
ends up leaving him to go with this other lady
and he sues her for fifteen million dollar. I don't
know if the character has the same name because of that,
or if it's just a very good accountant name.
Speaker 3: But Sidney Bernstein.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: That's cool. You also get a cameo of Hugh Hefner
at the Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 1: Guard your blood out, Lily, isn't this sun?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: And thank goodness for that. I mean, you gotta die.
Speaker 3: Sometimes fourteen year old Jason was having a blast hanging
out at the Playboy Mansion. You get Chris Rock in
his big screen debut as a parking Valley Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yo, what the man?
Speaker 4: Check this out?
Speaker 1: I get ten dollars for cars. I get twenty dollars
for limos? What the hell is this?
Speaker 3: And then I was just gonna make mention one of
the playmates at the Playboy Mansion is miss Kimberly Herron.
Speaker 1: Hold On, hold On, one of the playmates. Okay, so
they're playing volleyball like there's no lines, there's no one
of the playmates. Jason Colvin decided to do some research
and figure out whatever the other things they've been involved in.
Speaker 3: I do a thorough job here at the Shirley Can't
Be Serious podcast.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Yes, what's the name
of the secretary at the gun club who actually has
a speaking part.
Speaker 3: Her name is Valerie Wildman.
Speaker 1: Oh all right. You only know that because I told
you anyway, and we had this conversation off the air.
I was like, do you know her name? And you're like, no,
I have no Yeah. I see where your research falls,
my friend, I see what holes you go down.
Speaker 3: Let me finish my thought on Kimberly Herren Hey. Okay,
she plays one of the girls in the zz Top videos,
which we talked about in our zz Top Eliminator Eliminator,
and we also talked about her in Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: She's the blowjob ghost she.
Speaker 3: Is, and now here she is back at the Playboy mansion.
And then you have mister Allen Garfield who plays Chief.
Speaker 1: Lutslots and biddle like kibbles and bits, kibble and bits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's all I got on cast.
Speaker 1: Not very exciting, right, So this movie, as I said,
I was not happy with the script. The difference between
scripted lines and improv lines in part one couldn't tell
you like I just couldn't because they put it together
seamlessly with this one. I could tell that they were
struggling to get out the lines that were on the
paper in some scenes and other scenes I thought they're
just making stuff up, like this is just dumb, ridiculous stuff.
And sometimes it worked, but a lot of times it didn't.
Your case in point, Jimmy Wishbone.
Speaker 3: Or whatever, Johnny Wishbone scene is that painful to wise?
It was not. It was obnoxious.
Speaker 1: And the scene where he walks he takes he takes
Rosewood's pills, his vitamins and walks into the gun club
and does this whole thing where he's terrified. What the
heck is that about? Why did he have to do that.
Why could he not just have walked in the door
and said, can you point me to so in those
offices and need to talk to mister Kane. Can you
tell me where his office is? Is that easy? Yeah?
Just trying to plug Eddie Murphy's stuff in in a
redic way. I couldn't stand it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got a couple of things that they did, right,
let's talk about Yeah, sure, are we already moving towards judgment?
Speaker 1: We need some tidbits in here somewhere, but yeh sure, okay,
all right, tell me about the things that you did
that you think that they did, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I do think that they didn't execute it. Well,
but I think that this idea of having an alphabet
crime is interesting.
Speaker 1: They stole it from Agatha Christie. It's called the ABC Murders.
Speaker 3: Well I didn't know that, so I thought that was good. Yes,
it's a brilliant idea, right that someone else had. Okay,
I mean, why would you do that? Like, why would
you give people clues as to who you're.
Speaker 1: Going to like what building you're going to rob next?
Speaker 3: There's lots of pieces of this movie that make no sense, right,
lots lots. So you open with the robbery at the
jewelry store, which is Tony Scott. It's exciting anytime you
have somebody calling out in thirty seconds. Yeah, you know,
it's like point break. Yeah, you got the clock factor,
you've got the pressure. But all I'm thinking is, why
are you guys shattering all like you're gonna slice your
hands up? I mean, just do a simple break and
like get in the side.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Or the fact that she's a six foot one blonde
woman who's incredibly beautiful and not in costume. Right, she
was wearing sunglasses, so I couldn't tell who she was.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So I like the alphabet crimes. I think that that
was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good job back get the Christie.
Speaker 3: Now they shoot Bogomil for letter B right off the bat.
It's kind of quick, you know. For yeah, like he's
like hot on their trail after one crime.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they know he's hot on the trail because
why because he's running in their oil pit and he
picks up some dirt.
Speaker 3: Right, that's it, that's it, That's all we need.
Speaker 1: And when you see his shoes later I'm like, you
couldn't glue that much dirt on his shoes that's on
the ground.
Speaker 3: It was so over the top. I'm like, oh my word,
I would not walk in the house with those shoes.
Speaker 1: Could you spoon feed it to us a little bit more?
Speaker 3: Please? Okay, let's talk about what they really did.
Speaker 1: Right though, Okay, you gotta tell me, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, they gave us a great soundtrack with great songs,
and it's a rock video. Do you wrong? And we've
gone up pat fun.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you on that one.
I listened to the entire Beverly Hills two soundtrack. Shakedown
is phenomenal, shakeounds the number one hit.
Speaker 3: Everything else is Man, you tell Me I Want Your Sex,
number one, number two hit.
Speaker 1: That number one. It was not made for the album.
It was just happened to get thrown in there. But
it was already it's already a big hit. They took
a song that was already a big hit.
Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no oh no.
Speaker 1: This You're telling Me that I Want Your Sex by
George Michael was written for this movie.
Speaker 3: Well, it was used for that I don't know if
it was written for this No, it was definitely not.
They came out in November of eighty seven.
Speaker 1: I unders stand. But what I'm saying is, I know
he didn't write it. We've covered faith, we know why
he wrote that. He wanted to smash his image of
the pretty boy from Wayam.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that was a huge song the
summer of eighty seven in part because of this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a huge song because it was a
huge song anyway, not because of this movie. You get the.
Speaker 3: Strip club scene and you got well, I want your sex,
which is.
Speaker 1: Fine, right, so go ahead, what do you got else?
Speaker 3: I mean, cres My Broken Heart by the Jets, the
Wolf Grahams, we talked about them, terrible, top ten hit,
Crossmer Broken Hot, terrible. You get another Pointer Sister song.
Speaker 1: That sounds exactly like the other one, except not as good.
Speaker 3: That's true, I'll give you that. And then you get
Corey Hart followed Sunglasses at.
Speaker 1: Night, Yeah, and also terrible.
Speaker 3: And you get a cement Uh truck run through the
streets on the soundtrack that they escaped from a robbery,
drove straight to the Playboy Mansion, left the car parked outside.
Speaker 1: They parked an armored truck outside the most visible house
in a ten mile radius, and that was their escape plan.
Speaker 3: And when they got out, they all looked like they
were going to the Kentucky Derby. I mean they were
dressed to the tee.
Speaker 1: I mean. To go back to the gun room scene,
he comes in to ask a question about a bullet,
and in ten seconds or less, bridget Nielsen has seen
him on the security cam, knows what he's talking about,
comes and interrupts him to find out that he's a
Detroit cop and comes in to tell the main bad guy,
have him killed?
Speaker 3: How he killed?
Speaker 1: Immediately? Are you serious? Hey?
Speaker 3: Do you guys know what this bullet is?
Speaker 1: From? Killing?
Speaker 3: Killing?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's very bad, but.
Speaker 3: Bye, listen. I have a high affection for this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of fun. I told you
it is like it's like going to a party and
you have a blast at the party, and then when
you get home you realize that somebody had stolen your wallet.
Speaker 1: What you did not tell me this? What?
Speaker 3: Well, that's the clean up version, right, Okay, But I
had a blast the whole time, and it's not until
later that you realize, Man, that didn't make any sense,
but it was still fun. All right, d let's go
into tidbits. I've got some great tidbits for you, and
then we can talk about final judgment because I could
see you're itching to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm ready to get this this silliness over with.
The nice part about this is we get to jump
back to Beverly Hills Cop one and talk about a
few things there. So very first scene that they filmed
in Beverly Hills Cop one, very first scene. Do you
know what it is?
Speaker 3: It's the chase at the beginning, right, No, it is
the strip club scene. Really, yes, which I mean it's
my favorite scene in the whole movie, Like if you
if you your favorite scene?
Speaker 1: Well, yes, not yes, I realized how that came out.
I definitely enjoyed it as a young man. For the stripping,
of course, right, but no, the foiling of the crime.
The guys who come in, well, I can't tell you
how many times that I've been sitting somewhere and it's
been a warm day and I've seen somebody come in
with a big jacket on. I'm like, is that Gegan around? Buz?
I'm watching that guy. Why has he got these long
jackets on? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I love that, yes, philm anyway, so you change, man,
you change.
Speaker 1: That's the first scene that they shoot, and of course
Judge Reinhold has talked about the scene. He's like, I'm
I'm kind of awkward. This is awkward. We've got these girls.
So we're hours and these girls are stripping over us
for hours. Yeah, and it's it's hard to you know,
concentrate with all of this. But you know what the
song nasty Girl, you know where it came from? Nanty six, right,
but do you know who suggested it as the song
that be playing in the strip club? No? The stripper really, yes,
the stripper that was there was the one that said, guys,
I'd really like I think you'd probably like this song.
I would definitely dance to this song anyway. And that's
how they put That's how it got in the movie.
Speaker 3: Love it there, you go.
Speaker 1: Love it? Yeah? What else you got?
Speaker 3: Okay, So this was the highest grossing movie in nineteen
eighty four. We talked about that and at the time,
this was the third highest grossing R rated movie of
all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you name the other two? The Godfather yes,
I don't know. What do you got?
Speaker 3: So the Godfather and the Exorcist, Oh yeah, yeah, finally
knocked off its perch by the Matrix reloaded reloaded right?
Speaker 1: What right? Not the first matrix, the second one that
was crap, right exactly? That doesn't even make any sense.
But hey, go back. If you guys haven't heard our
episodes on The Godfather Part one and two versus Goodfellas,
go back and check those out. Those are fun episodes.
And then also we talked about the Exorcists when we
did last year, did our top five Halloween movies from
the nineteen SEVENTI, Yes, we did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I've got a couple of tidbits I'm dying
to tell you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the banana and the tailpipe one of the
highlights of the movie, right, it's hilarious. Yeah yeah, not
fall into the banana and the tailpipe. Yeah, okay, we're
not going to fall for a banana and the tailpipe.
You're not gonna fall for the banana and the tailpipe.
Speaker 1: It should be more natural, brother, should flow out like this.
Speaker 3: Look, man, I follo off a no banana my tairepipe.
So apparently they did this on MythBusters. Okay, and it
didn't work. They couldn't get the car to stall.
Speaker 1: Out right, Hollywood magic, right right.
Speaker 3: Basically the car would eject the bananas and sort of
right itself.
Speaker 1: Were they using the same making model of car? Was
it a nineteen seventies model in Paula? I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: So whenever in the Beverly Hills police station they're tracking
Folly and Rosewood with the satellite tracking system, Yes, it
did not exist at that point. It was a made
up thing that of course would later become a real
thing of GPS. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Love it, Yeah real, Yeah, that's really cool. Okay, So
actual Folly wears a Mumford fizz Ed T shirt throughout
the entire first movie.
Speaker 1: Mumford and Sons did not exist yet.
Speaker 3: Says Mumford fizz Ed. I know, I had one. I
had one a shirt.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what is this, Well, it's got a couple
of connections to the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ali Willis, who wrote the song Neutron Dance, grew up
in Detroit, went to Mumford High School.
Speaker 1: We talked about Ali Willis when we did our Patreon
episode on September. Right, we did wid and Fire and.
Speaker 3: Best Theme Songs of the nineteen nineties. We talked about
her there as well. Oh yeah, all right, Ali Willis
went there. She saw it. She thought, wow, they're honoring me,
you know. Well, it turns out Jerry Brockheimer went to
Mufford High School as well. Yeah, and so did Gilda Radner.
As a matter of fact, So Detroit High School. This
is a Detroit High school.
Speaker 1: So Detroit High School has produced Jerry Bruckheimer, Gilda Radner,
and Ali Willis. Ali Willis, Wow, that's crazy, pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm dying to tell you this tidbit on location.
Speaker 1: Okay, give it to me.
Speaker 3: So at the very beginning of Beverly Hills Cop Part one,
after the cigarette diesel car chase actual, he goes to
the police station, climbs up and says stairs, and that's
where Jeffrey grabs him, and he's like, I'm not talking
to you. I'm not listening to Jeffrey. Those stairs that
he climbs up right there are the same stairs that
Genie Buehler climbs to meet Charlie Sheen in Ferris Bueler's
Day Off it's the same setup police station.
Speaker 1: Wow. Nice okay, Yeah, a little different lighting from one
to the other. It is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one more. This is kind of a
deep cut for you. The Beverly Palm Hotel lobby that
we actually spent a lot of time there. That was
the same location where they shot Steve Perry's music video
for O Sherry.
Speaker 1: Whoa fantastic go check out our best of nineteen.
Speaker 3: Eighty four songs, just talks about it.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Okay, ready for this one. Yes, in part
two when he comes into the gun club, instead of
saying his name is Axel Foley, he says his name
is Richard James. Right. Do you know who this is?
Speaker 3: It's a reference to Rick James, right, James, bitch, you
know the connection to Eddy Murphy.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, he produced his album the album of Party
All the Time, Party all the Time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, okay, and we I know we talked
about this for a minute. But on the set of
Beverly Hills Cop Too, Brigitte Nielsen had an affair with
Tony Scott. They were both married at the time. She
ended up divorcing Sylvester Stallone. Tony Scott divorced his wife.
It's kind of a disaster.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: One more tidbit for you on Beverly Hills Cop two. Yes,
the song Shakedown was originally offered to Glenn Fry.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3: No, Glenn Fries from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had had he'd had some success on
the first album he did.
Speaker 3: That heat is On was his song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he lost his voice.
Speaker 3: He couldn't sing, and so they went to Bob Seger.
Speaker 1: Well, and they wanted Bronson ben Show to come back
as well. Yeah. You know why he wasn't back because
he was doing Perfect Stranger, same character on Perfect Strangers. Yeah,
that's cool.
Speaker 3: Okay. I do have one humongous gripe from part.
Speaker 1: One, really I did. Oh yeah, I want to hear this.
Speaker 3: This is like my It takes me out of the movie.
I hate it so much.
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
Speaker 3: So Axel Foley, by the way, is running around Victor
Maitland's mansion. Okay, Yes, which, I've got another tidbit for
you location wise on this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like number number one. I feel like
you've talked about what you're about to talk about. When
we talked about Raiders, of lostar Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
I did so our like our third episode.
Speaker 3: God, that was four years ago.
Speaker 1: When about it? That's crazy. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: So the funny part is that the exterior of this
mansion was shot at one house and the interior shots
were shot at a different house.
Speaker 1: For sure, not uncommon, right.
Speaker 3: Right, So the interiors were shot at what a house
called that has a name? Like, I want to have
a house that has a name. Right, It's called Castillo
de Lago, uh huh, which means Castle of the Lake.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, the interesting thing about this mansion where they're running
around shooting up the inside of this Bugsy Seagull lived
Here's that was his house, Bugsy Bugsy. Yeah, and Madonna
lived in this house for years in the nineties.
Speaker 1: And then Madonna stars with and Mary's Warren Batty as
he's playing Bugsy there you go. Wow, that's nuts. Okay, okay,
But back to my was that Dick Tracy? Was she
and Buggy or Dick Tracy? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: She was in Dick Tracy. Oh yeah, well he played
Breathless Mahony, Yeah, Dick Tracy. Okay, you want to hear
my big complaint for part one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 3: Victor Maitland pulls out a three fifty seven magnum point
blake shoots Axel in the shoulder. It could blow his
arm off. Now he has a brief, painful moment and
from there he doesn't even acknowledge that he's been shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been shot. I think it would be painful.
I think I would react like Clu Diamond Phillips reacted
when he gets shot in Young Guns Part two. I'd
be screaming my head. But I don't know because I've
never been shot.
Speaker 3: They're all hanging out afterwards, and here comes the chief
and actual, why haven't you gone to the hospital yet. Oh,
I'm fine. He just got shot point blank in the
shoulder and he's just no problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of police chief first one, Yeah, police Chief Hubbard.
We didn't really talk about him. He's a great carmudgeon
leygu guy, right. Yes, he kind of reminds me of
the Grandpa off of The Lost Boys. He does. Yeah, anyway,
when he walks in to do his scene and he's yelling,
he's got rolled up papers in his hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he does.
Speaker 1: It's actually a copy of the script because they kept
rewriting and rewriting, so he's literally trying to memorize the
lines moments before he walks onto the screen and he
brings the script in with him.
Speaker 3: That's the man who wrecked the Muffey.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I got one more little tidbit that kind
of ties this all back in, right, Yeah, So Martin
Brest got Inspector Todd as real homicide detective because he
was in the Detroit police station. Right. The problem was
the Beverly Hills Police station wouldn't let him in. They
wouldn't let people in to see what it looked like.
So all he could do was go, all right, I'm
just going to do the exact opposite of what I
saw in the Detroit police station. But in addition to that,
and you think about what you saw in the Beverly
Hills Police station, he took his ideas. He took all
of the conceptual designs that he had had for the
Norrid scenes in War Games and made that into his
Beverly Hills police station. If you go back and watch
that movie and you see them looking at their screens,
you can will immediately recognize, Hey, this is straight out
of the War Games. Warworom Oh, I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Yes, Beverly Hills Cop One. Yes,
I'm guessing you love this movie.
Speaker 1: I do love Beverly Hills Cup one. Yes.
Speaker 3: This movie involves stolen Barra bonds. Yes, and cocaine.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: There's another movie in the nineteen eighties that involves stolen
bearer bonds and cocaine.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Which of those movies?
Speaker 1: Do you prefer?
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills Cop or Diehard.
Speaker 1: Diehard? It's not even It's not close, Okay. I mean
I love Beverly Hills Cop but Diehard is next level.
It's Mount Rushmore. So yeah, sorry, there you go.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, interesting, Okay, very good?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Are we on to final judgment?
Speaker 1: Yes? I wonder if anybody wonders which one I'm gonna pick?
Speaker 3: Why don't you lead us off?
Speaker 1: Well, I've said it over and over again. I was
really disappointed when I rewatched Beverly Hills Cop too. I
rewatched Beverly Hills Cop One with my family over the summer.
I was just like excited to watch it, and then
I was like, I forgot how funny this was so good?
So well, done so well, executed, meaningful, believable, all of
it except maybe for the gunshot right right. And then
I needed to watch Beverly Hills Cop Two. It's been
a couple of decades since I've seen it, but I
remembered loving it as a kid. But when I sat
down to watch it again, from the very first scene,
that very first bank robbery scene, I was immediately like, Ah,
this is They're not doing this right. I don't know
what's going on here. I expected better, you know, I expected, Hey,
we've learned some things, and we brought in a new,
very accomplished director and better screenwriters, and I think it
all suffered. Like I agree with you, probably when I
was a kid, I watched it and thought, oh, I
had a great time, and then afterwards like, wow, what
the heck was I doing there? Because that's what I
was thinking the whole time, What the heck are they doing?
A Number one, it's convoluted. Number two, they did things
that didn't make any sense. And number three, the dialogue
that they used was just off. It just nothing felt
good about Beverly Hills Cop Two for me. And when
I told you this initially you were like, have you
seen Beverly Hills Cop three. Yeah, and I haven't because
I've known from the beginning that it's a bad movie,
and I don't watch I don't deliberately watch movies that
I know is bad are bad. Right, So yeah, it's
easily Beverly Hills Cop all day long, every day, twice
on Sunday. I don't think I'll probably ever watch part
two again.
Speaker 3: Wow, this is like your vacation in Great Outdoors.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, it's not even it's a landslide as you
put it. It's a monumental landslide.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I told you initially. I told
you when we first started doing this that I have
great affection for Beverly Hills Cop Part two because I
was fourteen. It came out early that summer. I snuck
into an R rated movie. Eddie Murphy's going crazy and
having fun and being his crazy f bombself, and I
just thought it was great fun. It was full throttle.
It's a Tony Scott movie. I love Tony Scott movies.
The soundtrack I think is good, the fun is high.
We have a scene at the Playboy Mansion. It was
everything that a fourteen year old wanted to see. However,
upon rewatch Beverly Hills Cop, the first one is way better. Okay, now,
then I don't feel like you. I do think that
there's value in Beverly Hills Cop two, and I still
have a great time. But the scenes that they I mean,
they absolutely hit out of the park. In Beverly Hills
Cop one, I mean, the truck scene at the very
beginning is out of this world. The strip club scene
in part one shows Axel's competence, his ability, his talent,
and the second one is just a chance to throw
some boobs into the movie. He's more obnoxious in part two.
Eddie Murphy says that Beverly Hills Cop two was a
half assed movie. I agree with him. Beverly Hills Cop
is way better. Although I still have a great time
watching Beverly Hills Cup Part two, especially since I've also
seen Beverly Hills CP Part three, and after watching part three,
I think the value meter goes up on two. Now
they don't do everything right, but part three they literally
do everything wrong.
Speaker 1: I think your words were like a kick in the nuts. Yes,
if you want to hear more in depth analysis of
Beverly Hills Cop Part three. Go check out our buddies
at the thirty something Movie Podcast. They did a full
episode on it. They were not excited about the movie either,
but they do a great job with it.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, though, I don't care. I love hanging out
with Axle fully. I'm ready this summer or whenever it's
coming out. Yeah, to watch Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker 1: Part four. We make a promise to you, guys, if
we can do it, we will see that movie as
soon as it's released, and we'll give you our review
of Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker 3: Axel Foley, Okay, do what do we have next week?
Speaker 1: Next week we have a little bit more Beverly Hills Cop.
But now we're doing the soundtrack, you know, so we
didn't cover it in our movie part because we're doing
the full soundtrack because it was an incredible soundtrack. And
then we are taking another fantastic cop driven soundtrack from
the eighties nineteen eighty four, specifically Miami Vice.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't wait. That was such a moment
in time. I can't wait to dive back into those
songs and talk about that.
Speaker 1: Good dig it the most baby.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll see you back here next week,
I guess.