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As I said, you know, I was just off in
the deep dark wilderness shooting game animals and was kind
of being clocked out of the news for the most part.
But then I come back and Los Angeles is literally
on fire. So this is a fun one, guys. But
why don't we just start with this amazing clip that
I saw. You know, we all are reminded of the
twenty twenty saga in the Summer of Love, you know,
the famous clip of the fiery but mostly teaseful protests.
When I saw this clip, I was like, holy shit,
they're literally just running the same program once again, and
they think it's going to work. Let's listen, in.
Speaker 5: Large group of people, it could turn very volatile if
you move law enforcement in there and the wrong way
and turn what is just a bunch of people having
fun watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation
between officers and demonstrators.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, just a normal thing. People just
like walk around and love watching cars burned. You know, yeah,
this doesn't need any law enforcement whatsoever. Come on, guys,
don't you just do this every day?
Speaker 4: Incredible third world mentality? Like just yeah, of course, burning
cars are just part of our street culture. That's just
how it works.
Speaker 2: Think of the selfies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just burning street cars is just as American as
mom and apple pie. Come on, guys, you know, yeah,
go ahead. I was just gonna say, we have we
just have a montage of all these same photos at
the same time. You know, just just look at all
these guys. I'm really upstanding Americans, you know, every one
of them, right, you know, waving their flags, setting things
on fire.
Speaker 4: Well, you can feel the propositional nature of the nation here, really,
I mean, look at look at all that assimilation that's occurring.
Look at all the values that have been adopted. I mean,
these are these are the hard working families, the christian
the Catholics that I know are just coming across the
border that are ultimately gonna save us. You know, this
is this is just the salt of the earth. That's
who we're important.
Speaker 1: Oh well, all just think about what the food they're
gonna make with that burning car right behind you there.
They're gonna start cooking.
Speaker 4: Up some tacos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love the uh the arguments of people
have made to me, It's like, well, you know, you
should have no problem with these people coming over. I
mean they are Catholics right and everything. I mean, you're
you're It's like, what, yeah, I want Catholics to move
into my neighborhood and burn shit. I mean, what are
you retarded? What kind of argument is that? It's like
you know, Protestants being like, oh yeah, I don't mind.
You know, hey, these black people you know who are
who are burning cities down in twenty twenty. I mean
they go to a Baptist church, and you know my
neighbors go to a Baptist church. It's the same thing.
It's absolutely the same thing. What kind of argument is this?
Speaker 1: It's just a retarded one too, because like what what
like the idea is that all the billions of Christians
in the entire world now just have like a claim
to the United States because like you, yourself are also
a Christian.
Speaker 2: It's like, but I thought we weren't. But we're not
a Christian nation, right, We're a propositional nation. But all
of a sudden they use the argument that, oh, well
they're Christians just like you, so you should want them
to come up. I thought, well I didn't think we
were a Christian nation. Yeah, shut up.
Speaker 4: Schrodinger's Christian nationalism here, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeh, here's another one here. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the reason, the reason this is so important is
obviously we've had plenty of race riots in the United States,
very sadly. As much as we'd like to pretend that
this is you know, peaceful democracy and transfer of power
and you know, marketplace of ideas, there have been a
lot of riots in the United States, many of which
stand out in the last few years, but they tend
to be between the black community and law enforcement, you know,
working out the tensions there. It's unfortunate. At least it's
an internal struggle. It's something that is American at some level.
What we have here is very clearly a large number
of military aged men waving a foreign flag while screaming
the race in a foreign language. Larraza like, these are
people who expect to conquer the land. They're not Americans.
They don't pretend to be Americans, they don't pretend like
they're going to become Americans. They're Mexican. They literally have
the President of Mexico, Miss Schimbaum, talking about how they're
her countrymen and they should be defending the income stream
that is the United states ensuring that remittances come back.
I mean, this is an invasion at literally every level,
from the military as men waving foreign flags to a
foreign leader literally directing them for their financial interests. It
could not be clearer. The optics on this are an
absolute disaster for the left.
Speaker 2: And let's not forget who this president worked side by
side with. She's the former mayor of Mexico City, and
all of a sudden, ones she's the mayor of Mexico City.
Crime just goes down. Yeah, well, it goes down for
two reasons. One they stop reporting on anything the cartels do,
and two the cartels make their make their competition disappear.
She's working directly with them. So if she's working directly
with them, if she worked with them when she was mayor,
why isn't she working with them now? And why isn't
this a reconquista. Why are we why are we pretending
these are people who are protesting because they want to
stay here and not because they want to take back
to eighteen thirty borders.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, one of the Mexican officials, I forget which
one it was, actually stated that directly that they were
going to take back those older borders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have that sators. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got
that clip coming up after.
Speaker 2: He came to he came, that guy came to the
United States last year and campaigned against Trump in Mexican neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: And of course we have a senator in our country,
Senator Padilla, I think he was named, get arrested today
for barging into Christinom's press conference, and then of course
he goes out on the media and he's just speaking
in Spanish. So it's quite clear they have official representation
and our government, their government is treating these people as
if they're their own citizens. It's clearly, you know, because
it's it's not a matter of citizenship. This is this
is quite literally a racial conflict being orchestrated by our
southern neighbor well a number of in tandem with our
own you know, despicable elites.
Speaker 4: A number of different conservative commentators you know, had the
line of like, look at these guys waving the flag
of a country that they refuse to return to. It's like, yeah, buddy,
because what you don't understand is that they know that
the nation is not borders, it's not you know, propositions
it's people. These people are Mexican. They will always be Mexican.
The diaspora is Mexican to its core. Wherever they go,
Mexico goes. So when they arrive on your shores, they're
not there to, you know, follow the American dream. No,
they're there to make the United States Mexico, to funnel
money back to Mexico, to use the influence they have
in the United States to create greater Mexico. This is
it's not rocket science. You just have to understand that
a nation is not just like strictly its legal borders
and its constitution. The people from Mexico know who they are,
they know what they want, and they know they want
what you have. They don't care. They don't care about
your ideology. They don't care about your lofty ideals. They
care about your money. They care about looting your country,
and they care about turning its interest towards their own.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: And you can scoff at them, Oh, what a fool,
you want to stay in my country. Yeah, of course
they do, because you're dumb enough to keep paying them
money and allowing them to send even morning money back home.
It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, to them, it's just their territory, like they're
already in Mexico because they believe that parts of the
United States are rightful Mexican territory. It's their territory. They're
not even they're not even viewing it as being you know,
in the United States so much as the United States
is temporarily occupying their land. And just just to put
a finer point onto how bad this can get. I mean,
look at what happened in the Ukraine between the two
different racial groups occupying that country, where also on a
similar timescale, you have different borders that people are arguing over,
arguing over you know, who rightfully controls this territory or not.
The same sort of thing is inevitably going to happen
here if this isn't controlled right now immediately.
Speaker 2: You know, the in two thousand and eight, those of
us who were listening to stuff like the EIB network
when they were reporting that Larazzo or Lasso was talking
about how this immigration is about taking it back, taking
back what used to be Mexico for Mexico, so many
people scoffed at that. Well, here we are seventeen years later,
and yeah, basically the Mexican government is directing, you know,
with the cartels directing. I mean, what can only be
It's so easy to call it riots. It's so easy
to you know, calling it protests. Is this stupid? But
it is what it is. It is a reconquest, and
to frame it as anything else is really naive at
this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you have to speculate. I mean
they're literally saying that senator literally said it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna show that clip in a second here, but
first let's listen into the current Mexican Mexican president. This
is on translation of the speech she was giving. And
before we even play this, I mean, we were mentioning
the cartels earlier, and one of the more exciting things
we were talking about that the start of the Trump
administration was designating the Mexican cartels as foreign terrorists and
that opens up a lot of possibilities what can be
done with those organizations. But just even acknowledging that the
Mexican government itself isn't a cartel run organization, you know already.
I mean, this isn't like a sovereign country. This is
just a country that is run by drug lords. At
this point, and there's no reason to call it anything.
Speaker 2: Other than that.
Speaker 1: But let's listen into what she had to say us.
Speaker 7: If necessary, we will mobilize because we do not want
taxes on remittances from our compatriots in the United States
to Mexico.
Speaker 8: Shut up, chilly woman.
Speaker 1: Never gets so old, does it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up designating the cartels as
terrorist organizations.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: What's happening.
Speaker 3: Suggests to me that the administration has well developed plans
for this scenario that extend from before Trump took the
oath of office for the second time. Because, as I mean,
the whole reason why are these riots even happening, The
whole reason they started is because Ice was sent in
to enforced immigration law. The leftist protesters started rioting, well,
not even leftists is the wrong word. Mexican protesters. Foreigners
started rioting in tandem with our own homegrown leftists. Sorry,
I was just turning off my AC And then the
National Guard was sent in to protect Ice from these rioters,
and then Marines were sent in as well. And today
actually we saw I forget which member of Congress sent
this letter, but a letter was basically sent to certain
leftist organizations who are funding these protests basically telling them
that they're basically required to disclose all their you know,
chat groups and information to the Congress for because they're
being basically being investigated for, you know, cooperating with terrorist organizations.
So the fact that that is now being operated on
suggests to be that this was sort of the plan
the whole time, Like the administration knew where things were
going to go when they actually attempted to enforce immigration law,
and they set all the groundwork months and months in advance,
right from the very beginning to prepare for this scenario,
and the fact that they're not backing down so far,
this has been going on for almost a week now,
and you know this this could this could end just
as a sort of media circus operation where you know,
some photos are taken. You get all these photos that
we're looking at and it looks really great, but the
administration doesn't do anything. That's what would have happened in
the first Trump administration, but in this administration it seems
like they're not simply you know, sort of pretending like
they're doing something but not actually doing it. It does
seem like this time the intent really is to do
the full follow through here. You know, it's been mentioned
that this is a thirty day operation, which you know,
suggests they have a very specific timeline of events. You know,
I don't think anything that's happening has not been pre planned,
like the National Guard being sent in, and then Marines,
Marines as well, all of these, all of these forces
and being are not being sent so much in in response,
but in response to things they knew what already happen.
This is all being orchestrated. I'm not saying it's it's
like some sort of you know, conspiracy or something. It's
just the administration absolutely knows all the moves that the
enemy is going to try and make here, and they
have prepared for all of them. And then yeah, here's
the here's the letter I had mentioned. So I think
this is all very white pilling. I'll say, I do hope.
Speaker 4: That's the case, because obviously we saw a very concerning
truth host from the Trump about the need for farm
workers who are illegal to stay here because their labor
is cheap and they've been here a while. And same
thing when it comes to hotels and casinos, they need,
you know, the cheap labor of Hispanic maids or immigrant labor.
That seems to be something he also said again in
a speech later on. He then issued another post talking
about the need to like reimmigrate people. So very confusing.
I'm not I'm not sure what if any plan existed there.
I don't know if he just kind of did the
thing where he tweets things out on a lark and
then someone got a hold of him and said no,
don't do that, or if there's you know, some level
of chess being played there. But it's not a great
look when you issue that kind of statement because you're
you're doing it in the face of violence. You're seeing
the violent protests right before your eyes, and when people
see him assuming assumingly, you know, back away from those
positions in the face of that pressure. The message sent
is violence works. When the left gets violent, they get
what they want. We're going to dial things down. I
don't think that's a one to one. I'm sure he
got a lot of business pressure for the different raids
that they were doing, especially on agriculture, but ultimately that
is the appearance that it gives. So I agree Charlie
that they probably went into this with a level of
planning that did not exist previously. I don't think again,
the National Guard the Marines being deployed was any kind
of surprise to the Trump administration. Their necessity probably wasn't
confusing to the Trump administration. I am confused about the messaging.
I don't understand why in the world you would follow
up and post that in the middle of all this.
Obviously he's been a disaster when it comes to Chinese
students and inviting them in. He echoed that sentiment again.
But I just don't understand why he would start talking
about the need to basically amnesty a bunch of illegal
workers who are already here in the face of the
left wing violence, because what it looks like is well,
the left righted and then they got what they wanted,
and the message there is violence in the United States
is basically the purview of the left. They can deploy
whenever they want, and they'll get what they want when
they do it. I don't think that's ultimately the plan
for the Trump administration, but I really don't understand why
at this moment they felt the need to come out
and talk about that.
Speaker 1: It's interesting you bring up that point, or because Gavin
Newsom himself has already made a victory lap on this one.
Just like while we're talking, oh about not quote tweeting
Trump's post about it. So he's certainly not letting the
opportunity to go to waste saying oh, look, we've won,
We've shift the overtime window on the subject.
Speaker 2: Well, and let's remember what's happening in LA. Well, we
don't know. It doesn't look like this is specifically about
raids about illegals. It looks like it was about they
went there to serve warrants on money laundering and trafficking. So,
I mean, some of us feared that Trump was going
to succumb to this, and I think it's easy to
look at what's going on in LA and be like, yes,
they want to get all these people out of the country.
I mean, I have a tendency to believe that what
it can be two things at once. It can be
the Mexican government. Also the Mexican government in concert with
the cartels starting trouble and looking to basically take control
is try to take control of southern California. But also
this could be NGOs who activated people. Because I mean,
let's face it, if they're going after money laundering and
trafficking in Los Angeles, you can start putting pieces together
and wonder if this has anything to do, could tie
it to Jeffrey Epstein kind of stuff or Diddy kind
of stuff. You know, we just don't know what. And yeah,
I mean a lot of people have been critical of
Trump on deportations up until now, and I think it's
easy to get It's easy to get sidetracked by looking
at what's going on in LA and thinking that it's
all about, you know, illegals and deportations. But I don't
think that's what it's about at all.
Speaker 1: And very interesting points and definitely there's a lot of
factors at play here. I want to quickly get to
that clip because we were mentioning it and talking about
the Mexican senator bringing up the eighteen thirty map of
the United States and saying, oh, the like, the half
of the United States is Mexico, and you know we
have and secial claims to this land. Let's listen in
just to win.
Speaker 2: A Trump Buandolusia president and Trump seventies, he says, yestid to.
Speaker 1: Hex mil.
Speaker 2: So there you go, I mean, does and does anybody
else get like vibes of who's talking about her it's
Israel or aird Ian talking about you know, reforming the
Ottoman Empire.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the same ship all the time.
Is that no matter which country across the entire West,
wherever white people are, you don't have ancestral claims to anything. Uh,
I'm sorry, but that land, uh, that is you know,
allegedly part of Mexico eighteen thirty style. That land has
been part of the United States longer than it was
ever part of a unified Mexican state. So how could
you possibly say that any of the two dozen Mexicans
who are in that part of you know, the which
would become the United States shortly thereafter we took it
from them? And justly mind you, but how can you
not say that Americans are ancestral to that land like
we obviously are. That's ours, it's not Mexico's. I also
love how they just immediately throw out, you know, like, oh,
that's not Apache or Comanche land, you know, like that
we found a different racial group that's going to land
rab this area.
Speaker 2: No, that's and really that land anything before we went
before we went there Spain had it, so it wasn't
even Mexicans couldn't do that on their own. They had
to rely on Europeans to help settle that land.
Speaker 4: It's not even anti colonial, like they're just they're just saying,
but the last colonial power was better than your colonial power.
It's just anti American, that's all. It's got nothing to
do with any kind of principle.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. This is just another group of people
wanting our shit. It's the same word is everywhere, and
they're just going to use any kind of mumbo fans
see academic language. You try and give what they want,
but we all see what this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just looked up the Newsome tweet you referred
to as well. He put out a big celebration video,
which is exactly the sort of thing that we don't
want happening. This is really, like Pete said, we don't
really know what the motivation is here for the administration,
but we do know that they have to follow through
with this whatever they're doing all the way, and they
cannot putting out those tweets that that Trump did today,
or those truths on truth social It seemed very silly,
even if he was just doing his a b testing thing,
as some people have theorized, it still looks really bad.
So you know, today, the the the Mexicans and the
you know, Commi's helping them, got a major win. And
that's that seems to be a big misstep. So hopefully
the administration follows through, because this seems like the first
really big test of the Trump administration since that sort
of initial you know, three weeks or so when they
were putting out literally dozens of executive orders. And I
think if if the administration even appears to back down here,
it's it's it does not bode well for the next
three and a half years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent point. All right. So in addition to the
actual Mexican politicians talking on this story, we have a
couple more things to go over just on the actual
riots going on. I mean, Oron had a show earlier
this week with Academic Agent and AA himself while I
was away, released an absolutely bombshell report about the Community
Relations Service. So the CRS and these riots going on
in LA. We're going to show a couple of clips
about journals in a minute here and everyone, but this
it really just couldn't have been a better time to
talk about this thing, because undoubtedly this organization surely must
be involved with this. It's like it's got them written
all over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually was very the very first thing that was shown
where CNN said that really weird thing about the car burning, right,
and that sort of harkens back to the mostly peaceful
protests from the Floyd riots. I think it was, or
maybe it was Ferguson.
Speaker 4: That sort of thing.
Speaker 3: May actually be we may actually know now that those
those bizarre statements from the media come from the CRS
basically giving the media an instruction manual and how they're
supposed to talk about these things and that the media
not to defend them or something. But they're they're at
least partially under duress by this federal organization that's protected,
you know, from from FOYA and having their information subpoena
even by Congress. But yeah, go ahead, arn.
Speaker 4: Oh No, I was just gonna say. Obviously went to
a lot more detail on the show, and then AA
has his own video. But I think this is a
pretty huge story. Obviously, the Trump administration was already aware
of the Community Relations Service and it's nefarious nature. There
had been previous people like rog nationalists who had reported
on some of what had happened there, but AA had
a far more comprehensive understanding, mainly due to a book
that these people published. Even though they have a high
degree of secrecy that they get to operate with under
the Civil Rights Act, even though they can basically refuse
to testify, refuse most Freedom of Information Act requests, destroy
their own notes that they take without it going into
any kind of record. Despite all this, these guys were
so excited about bragging, you know, in twenty twenty, when
it was the Summer of Love and it was all
George Floyd and it was the end of history and
the Left was going to be in power forever. They
basically conquered the Chuds and they were never going to
allow them to ever hold power again. They're like, oh,
you want to run out and take credit for all
the amazing things that we did. And so it's just
kind of laid out how evil this organization is. And
so the Trump administration was already somewhat aware, and they
had already slated this organization ultimately for some kind of demise.
But I got contacted after I put out the thread
detailing a lot of what was in AA's video by
the Office of Management and Budget to let me know
that they had indeed zeroed out the budget for this
organization in the bill that is now waiting to pass
in Congress. Now, that doesn't completely eliminate the organization. It's
still statutorily required by Title ten of the CRA or sorry, yeah, no,
of the CRA. And so the only thing you can
do is either amend the Civil Rights Act or repeal
the Civil Rights Act, which I think would be wise ultimately,
but at least we know that if this budget finally passes,
the organization itself would have no more funding for what
it's supposed to be doing, and that itself.
Speaker 3: Would be really important for the next several years. But
the key here is it's not surprising that the Trump
administration is going to sounds like fully defund the CRS.
I mean, they defunded it significantly in his first term,
so it's not like they weren't aware of it. But
it will come back. It will simply come back like
a zombie if the Civil Rights Act Title ten is
not amended and basically removed through amendment, and this can
be done. The Civil Rights Act has been amended before,
you know, in a progressive direction, there's no reason why
it can't be amended to simply remove the CRS from existence.
And I would say, we basically have three and a
half years to get that done. This organization needs to go.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we should just remember that we
have three and a half years to get a lot done.
I mean, everything you want to get done has to
be done in the next three and a half years.
There will be an election again in three and a
half years. It would be nice to sit here and
be and think that, oh, there's no way that they'll
vote another another ship Lib into into office. But then
let's remember that not all of the elections in the
past have been on the up and up. So you know,
if they're not doing everything they can right now to
destroy their enemies and make sure that they can never
take office again. Somebody fellow, a GC member said said
earlier this week that if you're governing right now, you
have to govern like you're like your enemy is never
going to be in office again. And really the only
way you can do that is you have to make
sure that they can never be in office again. And
that's going to take will and it's probably going to
take a lot more will than we've seen so far,
so you know, we shall see. Sorry, I always I
bring this black up every stream, but it's true. If
these people aren't destroyed now, they will be back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. We have more stuff to talk about in
the future here, about governing like your enemy is never
going to win again, and about us being in charge.
But we'll get to that when we come to it.
But do you guys have any more comments on the
CRS before we go into a montage of some of
these protesters getting taken down by the cops for a
little bit about white pill Sure, I mean, yeah, here's
the book right here for the CRS.
Speaker 3: We can't say for sure exactly what they're doing because
it's secret, but there's absolutely no way they don't have
people on the ground, you know, we're conciliators as they're called.
Were they responsible maybe for people receiving American flags in
place of Mexican flags? That sounds like something they might
do from their tactics. They it would be interesting to
try and to do switch organizations they might be working with,
because we know what these people do is they go
to churches, they go to you know, existing organizations and
try and find the moderate ones, uh to counteract the
more radical ones. They will you know, train what they
call marshals to to help rally people. They're probably they're
probably relying on that a lot, I would guess, since
they're so understaffed right now because of previous defunding. And
you know what they what they're doing is they just
stop stop our enemies from making mistakes. You know, basically,
our enemies have a permanent federal task for stopping them
from making mistakes. And they're our side is heavily disadvantaged
because of that, so that that's one of the reasons
they need to go because they're it's so powerful. It's
such a powerful tool that the enemy has to federally
moderate all of their protesters. From the very beginning of
the Civil Rights Act, now every single case, it's all
been controlled and moderated. And you know that that sold
is like a good thing, right because they're they're stopping
the radicals. But it's literally just the ratchet, right. They
are an essentral part of the civil rights progressive ratchet.
And look, it simply has to be removed and this
needs to be done. And like p said, there's a
million other things that ney to be done. What we're
seeing now in that LA seems to be a little
bit more serious than the administration did last time from
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. But it's not enough, not
even close to enough yet, you know. So we'll see
what happens in the next three weeks. But but yeah,
this this, this, this CRS stuff. It hopefully it doesn't
fade into the background because they're this thing just has
to be destroyed. Look, and yeah, it would be, like
I said, it'd be interesting to try and to try
and pin down like where they might be operating within
these riots as well, but obviously that would be extremely difficult. Anyway,
I'll stop rambling now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, especially when during the first Trump
administration when they did significantly defund this organization. I mean,
now is the time to act, and now it's the
time to strike. And Charlie is absolutely correct. I do
hope that this doesn't just fade into obscurity, you know.
I mean, in this day and age, it's kind of sad,
you know, especially when a does his expos a in
this video and the very next day you got Elon
Musk doing his spurgout on Trump and just immediately the
new cycle pivots is something else, you know, but like this,
this is actually really important stuff. And now that the
Trump administration is in charge, take the opportunity now and
get rid of these guys. It can be done, and
it should be done. All right, guys, how we get
a little bit of a white pill in here and
look at some of these protesters getting taken down and
throwing it in irons by the cops or in uh well,
this first one, I mean talk about you know, hating
journals all the time because you can never hit him enough.
Let's take a look at this one.
Speaker 9: Just moving them on through the heart of LA.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys see like the new like
Soyjack meme that was made off of this one? Yeah backwards.
Speaker 2: Well let's let's let's remind everybody all journalists are bastards.
Speaker 3: So this is a great quit. I love how you
can you can just see him decide that he's had
enough of her and he just you know, hits her
in the back of the leg. I hate how these
journalists think they're they're just allowed to stand wherever they want,
you know, they just have a free pass to be
anywhere at any time as long as just because like
they're the press and you know, the there's literally a
riot line here, like nobody is allowed to approach that,
even if you're a journalist. So yeah, he did the
right thing. And also it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time before one of these
guys breaks up my sign, Like that's that's all I'm
really hoping.
Speaker 1: Yeah really he I here, we got another one right
here when these guys gets taken out by a nice officer.
Speaker 9: So let's see, Well this person place, nown or thing
or whatever the hell, it is a tax of confidences
up getting sweet by the leg my god, and nearly
put in a body bag. And all I can hear
is a man going, what does he turning into the
freaking incredible hulk? Use your brains, man, you're under arrest.
Speaker 2: You're gonna try and tack them, try and breaking break
a ship in half.
Speaker 9: Well guess what you can get toss stuff when you're
freaking Caesar salad.
Speaker 4: That was some quality judo there. That's that's at least
two points.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the same thing we see all the
time in like body camp footage with another certain group.
But it's like, dude, you're already the cop is already
on you, Like there's nothing you could do to get
out of the situation. It's like, what do you think
is gonna happen? You're a step on that guy's toe,
like it's Looney Tunes. He's gonna like jump up it down,
and now you're gonna make your grand escape while you're
in handcuffs. Yeah, cops standing around you, Like what the
hell do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 4: To be fair, Yeah, they've never experienced physical violence. They
have no clue, right, Like they watch a Marvel movie.
I saw a lady in a Marvel movie one time,
like fifteen dudes, So that's gonna work for me, right, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we had we had that congressional letter
I mentioned earlier up on screen, and I saw on Twitter,
you know, people who are allegedly part of this organization
like freaking out on Twitter or Blue Sky or wherever
they're organizing, and it's it's like, yeah, you can't just
you know, involve yourself in terrorism and just expect like
nothing to happen just because like you're the good guys
or whatever. I mean, these these people just have no
actual contact or reality. I saw I saw that other
you know copy pasta that goes around today about how
you know they can't separate, you know, truth from wise
because they're Yeah, it's they have they have absolutely no
contact with the real world. It's all something like this happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, funny enough. We're gonna talk about that
Homeland Security account again in a moment, but that copy post, Charlie. Yeah,
it's like that when you live completely in fiction. I've
talked about this before, but do you guys know when like, okay,
so see you bring up like any it doesn't necessarily
need to be about politics or you know, could just
be any topic and somebody will bring it up in
the discussion. Oh like what they did on Landman. You know,
it's like, oh, oh, so, like you really just have
no content like uh, you know, grounding in the in
the actual real world of things going on. It has
to go back to some like TV show you're watching them,
like t or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I just wish they would bring up a
DC tomic.
Speaker 1: This is very true. There's so much better. All the
characters are better everything. But yeah, so here's this guy
going and reaching for an officer's gun just gets decked
right in the face, you know. I mean, honestly, this
guy got off kind of light, you know, like, don't
like some sock p on this guy, you know, weapons attention,
punch him and then shoot him.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I really want to see these people
get what they deserve. And it's a lot more than
a punch of the face.
Speaker 2: Very true.
Speaker 1: We got another one here, I think too. Let's uh,
let's uh, let's take a look. Okay, Nope, that's that's
all of them, all right? Cool? So yeah, I mean
there were plenty of these going around. I saw one
where I think it was like one of the protesters
got shot or like no, no, no, he threw something through like
a milkshake or something in one of the cops, and
one of the bystanders came running into him and just
like football, tackled him right into the dirt, and then
the cops came in. Heck off the guy in. Let
the guy off who tackled the guy for him.
Speaker 4: So I saw people saying that he was a plane
closed police officer, which given the swiftness of the response,
makes perfect sense. But the yeah, the takedown was beautiful,
like like he didn't just get tackled like it was.
It was a beautiful double leg takedown. That guy got
completely scooped slammed to the ground, is, you know, absolutely
beautiful thing to behold, even even though it probably was
a police officer. Ultimately still still amazing footage.
Speaker 2: You know, as somebody who grew up playing street hockey
and wasn't always smart enough to wear a helmet and
has had my head bounced off the concrete a couple
of times. Yeah, you remember that, You remember that, so
you know, good on whoever that was. Yeah, right on.
Speaker 1: Well, we've already kind of mentioned Gavin Newsom a little
bit on this one, mostly in response to President Trump's truths.
It was just so weird. Yeah, that's what they call it.
A true social Yeah, I'm sending out truths.
Speaker 2: But here's what.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom tweeted out. This is just yesterday. I'm talking
about the Founding Fathers did not live and die to
see this moment. It's time for all of us to
stand up peacefully. Yeah, because the Founding Fathers known Spanish speakers,
mind you. Yeah, if they were signing the Declaration of
Independence and passing on this country to Mexicans to break
into the United States and like cars on fire. It's
just what all of those guys wanted. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: I means, let's take a minute to stop and criticize
to founding fathers for a little bit, because you know,
while we're looking to get rid of people that they
want to come in here and pick fruit and pick crops,
they made some mistakes about some of the people they
brought into pick crops.
Speaker 3: True, we can say that again. I mean you're in Alabama.
Speaker 4: So yeah, as the Romans time, this cheap labor always
comes with a cost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas Nick whereas Nick Land said, most expensive cotton
in the history of mankind.
Speaker 4: By the way, you know guest on The Oron McIntyre
show on Friday, really wow, Yeah, yeah, yeah. We cut
the episode on Wednesday and it'll be playing it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, incredible, Yeah, definitely be sure listening to that one, folks,
Well that'd be really cool anyway. But yeah, so here's
Gavin Newsom, who I mean, well, Charlie, you were one
of the guys that I saw first actually throw this
take out there right at the start of this thing.
Why don't you talk about the Trump administration's response to
Gavin Newsom on the onset of this thing, because up
until this whole saga, he was certainly looking like the
Democrat front runner for twenty twenty eight by a long shot.
I mean, do they have anybody else except this guy?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the Democrats have someone in mind that's
not him that they plan on deploying, because Newsom is
it's quite clear that he intends and that's why he
didn't run last time. He intends to run in his
own terms as the moderate Democrat who's going to you know,
bring you know, normalcy or whatever back to the party.
And the problem is is, i mean, especially before today,
this operation looks pretty uber machiavellian. You have Trump and
Vance sort of tag teaming Newsom on Twitter. They keep
referring to Newsom specifically. I think it's quite clear that
part of what is going on here is this whole
operation is being conducted in part to basically cut the
floor out of Newsom's fledging sort of presidential run. You know,
he's already campaigning, which is how you do it, right
You in America, you start campaigning years before the actual election,
and The problem for Newsom is that he has to
oppose Trump whatever Trump does in his state. So what
it does for Newsom is it forces Newsom to go
into the crazy box or crazy closet I guess said
this case and defend indefensible things, which he really doesn't
want to do. I mean, Newsom does not want to
be in this position. I think that's why he was
so happy today that Trump showed that weakness because it
enabled him to signal victory. Whereas here, I mean, look
at this, he's they're they're in some sort of broom closet.
He's probably not even really in control of anything happening here. Uh,
and you know this is just trying to make it
seem like he's actually in charge. He it's it's it's
it's on Trump Advance to screw this up. Basically, like,
as long as they don't screw up, Newsom screwed because
he has to continuously defend everything that Trump's enemies do,
no matter how crazy it is. And so long as
Vance and Trump don't don't screw that up and don't
allow him to sort of flip it into some sort
of victory like he's trying to do he's basically going
to be screwed. So I like what Vance and Trump
are doing is is is a pretty pro move, I
would say, in terms of getting rid of this guy
before he becomes a real problem, because they correctly recognize
that Newsom is the big threat in terms of the
next whoever runs your president. You know, I guess we
assume it's going to be Vance right now. Newsom is
the big threat that needs to be taken out as
early as possible. And I think they've done a good
job of that, except for today, which allowed Newsome to
you know, sort of claim a major victory over the
Trump administration, you know, just over some text on the screen.
I mean, that's what's so interesting about this conflict too,
is that like these riots are pretty small. I mean,
there could find the small areas you see. It looks
pretty crazy on screen, but it's like it's all just
rubber bullets and no actual, like very little actual violence
is happening. There's always the chance that a could spiral
out of control, but you know, a lot of this
is just in some way. The point of this is
just to collect all of the footage and photos and
you know, show how crazy, uh Trump's opposition is and
that's definitely been achieved. But as we said earlier, I mean,
there have there has to actually be a material follow through.
This can't just be like a media campaign that the
Trump admitt is running. There needs to be some real
meat to this operation, whatever they're trying to do, even
even if it is just to totally you know, uh,
crush California. I mean, maybe maybe there's some sort of
larger intent here to increase federal controls over California. Maybe
maybe there's some plan to try and flip the state back.
Who knows. I mean, we're just spitballing here. Hopefully, hopefully
there's some bigger intent here that the administration has planned.
So yeah, that's that's that's my take on Newsome.
Speaker 2: And you know, m probably five ten years ago I
would have said, let them elect California secede. Nah, I
want California, I want the resources, they stay with us.
Take the country. Take no, take the country. I consider
states to be their own countries. Take the country.
Speaker 1: You know, this is one of these things that even
though I spent a lot of time in libertarian circles,
and this is gonna be an excellent segue into our
next topic that we're going to discuss. But this was
always one of those things about individual parts of the
United States seceding We're just gonna let them go, just
always sat wrong with me. I remember I actually got
in an argument with Michael Malice about this at tom
Woods two thousand. Funny enough, when I just brought up
to him, It's like, dude, I think secession seems like
concession to me. It's like, oh, yeah, we're just gonna
surrender a part of the United States, like California just
to the left and just going to magically leave us alone, right,
I mean, that's just ridiculous. And then on top of
that as well, it's like, dude, like that's part of
my country, that's my home. I'm not just going to
surrender under this too. You know, people who can literally
destroy that. I mean, people forget and I will point
people once again to Pete your show that you do,
but Thomas on the History of California, your three part series,
which is excellent and people should go back and listen
to it. But California was the American dream personified until
very very recently, within the last forty years. Is when
you know California start really going to shit. You know,
it's this can be reconquered and reclaimed and it's not
like an insurmountable goal.
Speaker 2: And let's remember, I mean, no matter what the what
happens in the outcome of the elections, and you know,
you can question those all you want. Whenever they do
a referendum there, whenever they're like, oh let's vote on
gay marriage or oh let's vote on this, and that
it always those always come out conservative, those always come
out on our side, and courts have to overturn them.
So yeah, I mean there's good people out there, and yeah,
they need to be saved. I used to think that,
you know, I still believe probably some sort of secession
is going to happen in the future. I don't know
if that's next year or if it's one hundred years,
you know, one hundred years from now. But these people
are never going to leave us alone. YEA, if Alabama,
if if Tennessee split from you know, North Carolina, North Carolina,
if those two succeeded and they were like, we're gonna
leave you, leave us alone, We'll leave you alone, the
shit lives at North Carolina are going to look at
Tennessee and be like, they've banned abortion over there, we
need to do something about it. And honestly, some of
the people in Tennessee may look at abortion on demand
in North Carolina or and I'm not saying North Carolina
would do this. I'm just using two states that are connected.
They say, oh, well, you know they have abortion, they
have partial birth abortion over there. We have to go
do something. You have to defeat your enemy. You have
to defeat your enemy or else this is never going
to end.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get more to him about defeating enemies
in a second here. But one final thing that we
just have to bring up on the California stuff is
that I'm the senator from California, Alex Padilla. Yeah, what
an amazing tweet here, by the way, you know, like
no one is above the law, share if you agree.
And he gets arrested by trying to break into Christy
Nomes press conference today, which is just very much chef's
kiss unfortunately. I mean, you know, obviously nothing really is
going to happen as a result of this one, but
you know, just the idea of a senators getting arrested
is a nice start.
Speaker 3: I should say, that's kind of like the urals. I mean,
who does this guy think he is. He's a congressman.
It's okay, someone important, you know, you can't just walk
whatever you want.
Speaker 2: He's a senator. And that's really weird because it's like,
I mean, I know California has two centers. I think
the other one is Chef, right, It's weird that I
didn't know who the other one was. But I don't
even think if I'm not mistaken, I don't think he
was born here either. I'd have to look that up, but.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at this point. I mean, in
his press conference that he gave afterwards after he was released,
he the whole thing in Spanish, so just to further
prove the point.
Speaker 2: Oh well, he wasn't born here, he was born in la.
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, it kind of, uh, it kind of
produces some good optics for the left, because it's gonna
they're gonna think this just makes him look cool. It
would have been a lot more satisfying if they actually,
like it was said that he assaulted them. But I
watched the whole video and they just sort of escort
about the room as he struggles and then they just
you know, put him to the floor, you know, non
violently pretty much. So yeah, it would have nice. It
would have been nice to see like a kick in
the face or something, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was certainly resisting arrest, like there's just no way.
Oh yeah, he was resisting that, Like, yeah, no, he
should be arrested.
Speaker 3: He was resisting. It's just you know, I wish he would.
Speaker 1: Have resisted a little more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they knew what they were doing. Like he
didn't rush in there because he thought he was going
to ask some hard hitting questions of nome Like he
went in there looking for this. This is what he wanted.
These were the optics. He resisted just enough to get
escorted out and to get arrested, but not enough to
actually suffer any consequences or incur any serious charges. Like
they're stupid. But trust me, every bit of this was planned,
like this was a stage show from the beginning.
Speaker 1: No speaking of them other politicians from this one. The
other person that came out in the wake of all this,
I forget the name of the person, but one of
the congress women from Minnesota just came out and probably
declared on the floor that she's an legal immigrant in
the United States, and so we're all for family members.
It's like, uh, hello, knock a department full insecurity. I
Tom Holman, h can go get this woman right now?
Speaker 3: They really should. I mean, there's no reason not to
that it has to be investigated. She could just be
lying to try and score credibility, just like that men'swear
guy who who knows what his status actually is. But
this can't be allowed. I mean if they no matter
who you are, if you if you proclaim that it
has to at least be investigated, and if it's true,
then yeah, get rid of them. I mean again, it
signals weakness when you know your opponents can just sort
of declare that they're breaking the law and you're simply
unable to do anything about it. So the first the
first couple of days are weak or however long this
has been. Now is has been fairly fairly good for
the admin. There was definitely a script today. But now
that things are you know, here's the thing about the
right in general and also the administration. The advantage that
they have is moving quickly right like he did in
the beginning of his term. They have to move quickly
and get things done before the enemy can react efficiently.
We can see how things are just like here. We
can see how the stage management is starting to kick
in and the the left will make fewer and fewer
mistakes the longer this drags on. So whatever whatever Trump
advanced are trying to do here, they'd better get it
done quickly and effectively. You know, thirty days, Okay, that
that's probably short enough for you know, this to not
get out of control. But you know, we can see
the enemy start to organize more effectively and start to
produce some wins. This can't be allowed and they can't.
You know, these senators and whoever, who these CEOs who
proclaim that they're illegals, I mean, all the stuff, it's
going to build up and build up and build up,
and it's just going to backfire if the administration doesn't
secure like a major, incontroversial or uncontroversial win, right like,
it has to be a clear, absolute victory over these people,
and if it's not, it's just going to weaken the
next thing the administration tries to do.
Speaker 1: What they're doing right now, is that they're they're they're
calling their bluff and you better not be bluffing uh
Trump administration with this kind of stuff. Uh you know,
you better have like some aces in the hole or
or at least like a good pair uh you know,
a decent hand back. But you can't just have this
ship for people just like openly floating and breaking immigration law.
Some people in some of the highest offices of the
United States maybe have a fucking congresswoman for God's sake. Well, yeah,
she's an legal immigrant, fucking get river.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, congressmen have or senators have no no
legal immunity to that sort of thing. So, yeah, it
has to be done.
Speaker 4: You know, if it's also a basic requirement to run,
so that means she committed by running, that's all. That
should be the end of the art.
Speaker 3: Yeah, remove from office and deported. Uh yeah, so we'll
see how this play is at.
Speaker 1: They could have a special election. They do them all
the time.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, this is not complicated. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, but unfortunately we see this all time because congress
women and centors die all the fucking time in the
United States, more and more older and older. Now is
more of them reached like ninety years old, like Diane
fucking Feinstein. But well, Yeah, they can have a special
election deporter over with. You can fix this in two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the administration had better not be bluffing here because
if they if they're bluffing, they're screwed. I mean, and
remember the you know, even the Big Beautiful Bill has
not passed yet, so this is a big deal. The
administration can't take a major l out of this. It's
just it can't happen. And not only that, they can't
just sort of skate by. It has to be a
major victory. If the Edmond does not secure a major
victory by like July, then we've got serious problems here.
Speaker 1: Very true. All right, let's move on to well, in
lieu of the topic about the Big Beautiful Bill and
talking about taking back your country and not leaving any
part of it, let's talk about our favorite group of
people that have just been the absolute thorn in the
side for the last two weeks. And I just received
word earlier today that they these two guys actually got
banned from the what was like the White House Press
or the White House. It was one of the these
fancy ast inners you know that they have. But Rand
Paul and Thomas Massey were uninvited from this thing, and
of course they were making a big stick about it.
But here we go, or this is chef's kiss. Why
don't you tell us right now what you were talking
too with Thomas Massey on Twitter this week, and we
know why he needs to be ridiculed.
Speaker 4: You know, I've defended Thomas Massey several times ultimately because
I do feel like he was somewhat principled. You know,
I don't agree with him on everything, but I understand
where he's coming from, and he's good on certain issues
that do need to be addressed on a regular basis.
But the just inability of libertarians to read the room
to understand the priorities here, it's like, look, man, I
get it. Like I'm with you ultimately that the spending
in the United States is a huge problem. But you
have signed on to a lot of spending bills, including
increases on the debt, sailing for Barack Obama, I believe,
and on like all kinds of or maybe Joe Biden,
but it's not right in front of me. But he
has voted for number of spending increases. But he gets really,
really obstinate when it comes to a Republican passing one
and I get it again, Like he's worried about the debt,
perfectly reasonable. But at the end of the day, I
don't care if Greater Mexico is like zero point three
percent less in debt because of some spending cuts, Like
I care if I have a country. So yes, ultimately,
like is this bill a problem? Sure? Yes, but you
voted for mini bills that are a problem. Can you
vote for the one that actually gets me border security
and a border wall? No, of course not. And then
MASSI comes in and he's like, but I've got a
chart in the most libertarian moment ever. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: I mean, who do these people even think they're talking to?
It's like, does does anyone not think the federal deficit
is a problem. It's like, you don't need to convince us, dude,
but that's just not the important thing right now? Can
you see that?
Speaker 1: Well, look at this response here in this graph. She
just says, I'm sorry, but you're getting played. It's like, motherfucker,
Like what you think that none of us know about
like the current problems with the United States deficit and
the debt spending? Like, oh, dude, you just don't know
the facts. Man, The Trump administration is just pulling the
wool over your eyes. Man, let me pull out this
extreme graph that's actually going to show all the numbers.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, I get it. We all know about debt.
We just don't fucking care. We got others to deal
with right now.
Speaker 4: Well, Libertarians are fundamentally materialists, you know, and so they
can't understand any issue outside of material problems. They're right
about the financing, they're right, but that's because they're right
about that. That's actually a bigger problem because it doesn't
allow them to see anything else. They know the tree.
They're very familiar to the tree. They're absolutely right about
the tree, and so all they're going to do is
argue about the tree, even as the forest burns. And
so it's like, yeah, I get it, man, Like the
math does not math. I'm with you. This is an issue, however,
order of operations, right, Like, it matters if I have
a country, it matters if I have borders. I can
fix the monetary problem if I have borders in a country,
If I deport a large number of illegals, many of
my monetary problems will be solved because I won't be spending,
you know, billions of dollars, if not trillions of dollars
on illegal immigrants for their education, their healthcare, everything else,
the crime that they commit. All of these things, like,
we can actually remove a large number of the problems
you're worried about spending wise, if you fix the cultural problems.
But because the libertarians don't understand cultural problems, they don't
understand any kind of metaphysical existence. They're just like, no,
the only thing that matters is the balance sheet. It's
all just Excel spreadsheets, and if I make the number
go down, that's all that matters. They can't grasp the
cause of why the problems exist. They can only look
at the numerical accounting of the problem, and that gets
you nowhere. So they think they throw a graph up
like this and that's the solution. I've got a couple
more graphs to throw at you, Massie. I got some
graphs about demographics, I got some graphs about crime. I
got some graphs about education and how all of that
links to spending. And if you look at those graphs,
I think we could solve this problem. But you're not
interested in those graphs because those graphs are complicated, and
what you want is the simple, you know, just libertarian answer.
I rearrange the numbers on the Excel spreadsheet. I've solved
the problem. That's all they've got.
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me put this thought experience forward.
What if for the next for the entire trub administration.
Just imagine if the administration spent literally nothing and all
money that the government took in was dedicated towards paying
down the national debt, and we just do that for
four years, literally all money goes to it. Okay. Now,
now three and a half years from now, Democrat gets elected.
Now what they just continue the same program, go back
to deficit spending, and then we lose.
Speaker 4: It's like, so.
Speaker 3: Even in like the most the most optimistic possible debt
repayment scenario, how would would that even accomplish? Like you
literally you have to destroy your opponents here, I mean,
and he's he's really making our argument for us, because
if the whole idea is like the country's basically on
the point of like collapse from some sort of financial crisis,
that's like, okay, well we better spend the money now
before it gets back in the hands of the enemy.
Because if the US enters some major cris and like
the power of the state actually collapses, then how the
how the hell we're going to get rid of you know,
sixty million people.
Speaker 2: Like well, it just that doesn't that doesn't matter to them.
What matters is they're right. Libertarians want to be right.
They want to be able to say I told you so,
and so, Like the only thing that libertarians and really
just one of them, Angela mccardal, has ever accomplished is
getting Ross Olberg taken out of getting out of prison
someone who facilitated drug use or for facilitated drugs being
traded anonymously on the internet. Okay, what's some other stuff.
What's some other stuff they're brag about. Oh, we were
for gay marriage before anybody else is for gay marriage.
Oh we were for we were for legalizing drugs before
all these states. Yeah. So basically you were for before
all of these all these things that degrade the culture.
And then when the regime decides, well we need to
degrade the culture even more, they agree with you. So
it's like, oh, well, see, we've been saying we want
this for so long. Yeah, well they've caught up. They've
caught up. They see the damage it'll do, and they
get and they call that a win. All they care
about is being right. All they want to be able
to do is go, look, this is how economics works.
They'll tell you, you know, libertarianism is almost it's probably ninety
percent economics. And then they'll start screaming at you, oh well,
you know, it's about private property. It's really about private property.
But I mean they don't care if some fucking Mexican
is you know, it's like, oh, well, if a Mexican
is squatting on your property, I mean, then you can
shoot them. It's like, oh really, really you can do
that when you have DA's that'll put you in jail
for that. It's like, they're fucking they have no idea
what real politics, what real politic is. They have no
idea how to navigate politics. They have no idea how
power works. It's all about economics. They will tell you
that if you get the right kind of economics and
people thrive, that all of this degeneracy you're worried about
will go away. And I'll be and I'm like, oh, yeah,
rich people. I don't know any rich people who are
degenerate and do degenerate stuff. I mean, it's they're you know,
z Man has the best idea. You know, he wants
to put out shirts that says they say, punch a libertarian.
Speaker 4: They'll know what they said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, if you if you hit a libertarian,
believe me as somebody who was a libertarian. And I
think you know, red Hawk, red Hawk knows this. You're
You're just insufferable half the time, more than half the time,
because you're just like, oh, I know how to fix
this in theory, Well, how do you fix it in reality? Well, yeah, well,
you know you'd have to use power. But using powers
and more. Okay, then then you're at a book club
and this is a hobby for you, so fuck off. Yeah,
all the way off.
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't like all value subjected to these people anyway,
So it's like, my subjective value is I literally don't care.
Let's just grant that he's completely right there, completely right,
and that the economy crashes. But if if what and
let's also say that spending that money actually accomplishes, you know,
getting rid of the sixty million illegals or whatever the
number is, that's fine. I don't I don't care. If
there's a massive economic crash and I'm really poor. If
we save the country, like we can survive an economic disaster.
That's happened many times.
Speaker 2: But they're not allowed to they you're not allowed to
do that because then police or authority figures or the
state is doing that and they're evil. Oh no, it's
all fake, you know if the states the state's illegal fiction. Bro,
it doesn't exist. Borders don't exist. Borders don't you know,
Borders don't exist. While they're screaming about Russia invading Ukraine.
Borders don't exist, bro. I mean they're punch a libertarian.
That's it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a it's annoying to have to like it's
do you know that. It's like in a Murdoch Murdock,
you have the Donald character, right, that's what the Libertarians are.
You have? You have you have Rand Paul complaining that
he wasn't invited to the party. It's like, yeah, dude,
that's because we don't like you. It's like I wouldn't
invite you to the fucking party either, Like, we just
don't like you. Stop trying to like pretend like we're
friends or something. You suck good. I'm glad you weren't
invited to the stupid party or whatever the picnic that
Trump had, Like it's just weird. It's like the same
thing with Massy. It's like you're not my friend, bro,
just because you don't take money from a I pack.
Like if you betray Trump own over to again, I'm sorry,
like stop pretending like you're like cool with us, because
you're not, Like literal really is.
Speaker 1: The thing is about that too, And I've talked about
this previously. Is that the thing about Thomas Massey. I mean, listen,
it's great that you don't take money from APAC, right,
but it's almost like kind of gay because he doesn't
even do it for the right reasons, you know, to
not take money from a pack. You know, it's like, oh,
I don't take money from foreign politicians, Like well that
should just be like you know, simple reason enough for everyone.
But like the actual reason that you shouldn't be taking
money from Israel is because well we know why, right, there's.
Speaker 2: Other reasons, I fucking Tehran right now.
Speaker 1: Well there's yes, yes, but the you know there's like
people try and say, like, oh, it's like hyper based
because like he doesn't like a certain group and this
is why. You know, Thomas Massey's really cool and it's
like no, like he actually like doesn't take money from
Israel because for the gayest reason possible. So it's something
like he's like hyper based.
Speaker 2: About it, you know. And hey, they're literally they're they're
literally bombing Israel right now. And one of the reasons,
one of the main reasons they are doing it is
because they know that the United States was going to
negotiate with with it. I mean, they're bombing Iran right now,
and they know the reason why they're bombing Iran right
now is because the United States was going to negotiate
with them in a couple of days.
Speaker 4: I will say this, Marco Rubio has come out with
a statement saying being clear that Israel did this without
their approval and they are not involved and the United
States is only interested in protecting American troops and Iran
should not brutality against the United States because they have
no they're in no way involved in that.
Speaker 1: What a wonderful answer. I mean, you know what, here's
another thing. I hope Dave Smith and all the old
Libertarians take that one to the bank, because I just
heard NonStop from these people from day one about how
Marco Rubio was just the biggest hawk in the entire world.
It was going to declare war on the entire Middle
East the second he got into the office.
Speaker 2: You know, so well, thank you well, and I would
like to I would like to thank Israel because oil
just went up five dollars hour. And yeah, I've been
long on oil for a while, so thanks guys.
Speaker 1: Very nice. Well one of the There's a couple other
things I want to mention on this libertarian topic as well.
I mean, listen, uh, there are one of our favorite
punching bags on the show, and they entirely deserve it.
Speaker 2: But I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: Even grant these guys the fact that, like, oh, you
might be one hundred percent right about the economics. It's
like listening here, guys, I've heard this sky is falling
stuff about economics and the debt for my entire basically
political life at this point, and you really just have
to start asking yourselves Listen. I'm not an economist. I
don't understand like all the stuff down to the microdegree.
But if you keep saying this thing is going to
happen and the debt might as well be one hundred
trillion at this point because it's insurmountable. It's never going
to be fixed the way these people want to be fixed.
So whether the number goes from thirty to thirty five
to forty to one hundred, it just it just doesn't
fucking matter at this point. You might be right on
some you know, economics Austrian econ textbook or something like this,
but if the theory doesn't actually play out in the
real world, I'm not going to argue about it, and
I'm not going to stand for you holding up the
administration when we have one hundred million illegals that we
need to deport right now because you know of a
number on a on a spreadsheet.
Speaker 2: That really isn't want they want more. They want more
illegals here because they don't consider him illegal, because that
border is fake and the and the government is fake
and it's illegitimate and they use force and force is illegitimate,
and taxes are illegitimate, and they just want, you know,
like they don't want it. They want a society where
any basically any power in the world can walk in
and fill the vacuum. And they don't think that's going
to happen. Because they think that if all this went away,
people are going to choose. They actually think that people
are going to choose like a narco capitalism, if like
if the government like poof went away tomorrow. They actually
think that they're gonna pick their people are gonna pick
their way because everybody wants to be free after twenty twenty. Yeah,
everybody wants to be free.
Speaker 1: It's the central three counterpoints to all libertarianism is like
thinking that everyone has a right to be free, everyone
wants to be free, and that everyone should be free.
It's like none of those are correct. All three of
those central axioms of libertarianism all have major flaws with them.
Speaker 2: Did you see that Dave Portnoy like did this whole
thing in Africa and subs Aharan Africa where he went
and built wells everywhere, and it came out recently that
none of those wells are working. Do you know why,
because no Sub Saharan African country has a word for maintenance,
has a word in their language for maintenance. Yeah, everybody,
everybody wants to be Everybody wants to be free. Bro, everybody,
I mean invite those people in saying awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, about the size of the debt though,
I mean the the US debt is a matter of
war and peace. It's not an economic matter. This is
what these libertarians don't understand. It's like they but wait,
I'm sorry, the state is a illegitimate so it doesn't matter. Okay, yeah, sorry, And.
Speaker 2: And you know, and I'll end on this. Any libertarian
who hears this is going to say, straw man, straw man,
straw man, go fuck yourself, beat.
Speaker 3: Straw man with a baseball, exactly like I'm not here
for there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't an arguments club. This yeah, just yeah, yeah, literally,
just funk off, fuck right off.
Speaker 2: I don't care as there there is a reason why
the first people that were dealt with after the Bolshevik
Revolution were the anarchists, oh.
Speaker 3: God, because they were annoying exactly fucking hell.
Speaker 1: Just imagine an entire room of Michael Malice's Oh my god.
Well anyway, so now that we've gotten that out of
the way, and boys, yeah, really, god do I love it.
I love shitting and libertarians so much fun.
Speaker 2: Gonna come.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's make sure we overdose on white
pills a little bit more here, and we have to
that this is just so amazing. This is one of
those things that happened that it's just like holy shit,
you know, like posters in control. Man, Let's give a
special shout out to our friends C. J Engle on
this one, guys. So let's listen into MSNBC having an
absolute freak out over one of our good friends making
a meme. Let's watch me.
Speaker 10: I I have very mixed feelings about showing this to.
Speaker 2: Both of you. It is it is news, but it
is it is.
Speaker 10: It is news from the trum in the station supposed
from the Department of Homeland Security that they put on
X advertise advertising a tip line with a poster that reads,
quote help your country and yourself report all foreign invaders.
Speaker 11: This is your taxpayer dollars farles of who you voted for.
If you pay taxes, your taxes are paying for this
ad being disseminated on Elon Musk's platform X that says,
quote help your country and yourself report all foreign invaders.
Speaker 3: Sir. You can't spend tax dollars that way, sir, sir.
Speaker 4: Is this a professional news organization like this?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: I wish CJ Angle is getting paid tax dollars to
make this meme. Man man deserves it.
Speaker 2: What government would ever do propaganda?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like literally it is propaganda purpose.
I don't know, it's like it.
Speaker 4: The great news is we're just one, uh, you know,
one step away from getting Bill a Butcher posting on
official government accounts. It's gonna come.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean in front of the in front
of the no nothing flagged. Yeah, exactly, dude.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I mean, I'm impressed with whoever's
running the Homeland Security account is absolutely.
Speaker 2: One of our guys. Zoom zoomers in control manure.
Speaker 1: I mean, that account has been an absolute.
Speaker 4: Care last time they're dropping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: And then on the other hand, you have this like
millennial run account from a Gavin newsomwhere it's like they're
pisting memes about him being general grievous or stiff and Miller,
Stephen Miller being a general grievous and I saw another
one of Stephen Miller as like a gargoyle, like just
they're making them look cool for one thing, but it's
literally like millennials versus zoomers on government Twitter accounts. And
now it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It is kind of funny. I mean, General Graves was
the coolest character in the entire prequel series.
Speaker 3: And well it's also like, you guys are like Confederacy posting,
but then you compare your opposition to the Confederacy in
Star Wars, it's like, get your like memes straight, man,
Like they don't even have it straight.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: What a fun time.
Speaker 1: I mean one of the things I really want to
stress about this not just like you know, shouting out
to our friend obviously if you're doing great job, but
I mean all the stuff that we do, you know,
on this online sphere has has impact. It actually does
penetrate into the real world. It penetrates into the White House,
into positions of power. Everybody who One of the things
that people were springing out about this week was how
people like Matt Walsh and Jack Pisobic and Charlie Kirk,
you know, we're finally coming around and we're just openly
posting that we need full blown immigration moratoriums on stuff
like this, and you get to positions like that when who,
people who have these massive platforms have to shift on
these issues from people like us, people in the audience,
people in OGC chapters. People in are wider thing, whatever
you want to call it. You know, just actively posting
all the time. It does have an impact. And here
you go, literally cj Engl just goes and makes a
meme out of his own time, and you have a
government account tweeting it out.
Speaker 4: Never stopped.
Speaker 3: I would like to apologize to a semiagogue and say
that it has an effect, not an impact.
Speaker 1: Very true.
Speaker 3: In other Oh, before we get to this, there's another
thing that broke on Twitter. Gavin Newsom's tweeting that some
judge in the Northern District of California has issued one
of them dang injunctions, and he says that Trump has
to return control of the National Guard to the state
of California. So it's about to get interesting because the courts. Look, man,
courts are saying you gotta do it. So I guess
he's got a return control the National Guard back to California.
What can you do? I mean, some judge writes it
down on his little piece of paper, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. The entire election for the President
of the United States is null employed because you know,
Judge Gonzalez says, So.
Speaker 2: This is Trump's rubicon moment. Right. If he doesn't just
absolutely get to the point where he's like, I'm not
these judges are not in charge. I have executive power
and they have no authority here, then it's over. It's over.
We lost. There's all we can do is hunker down
and do everything we can do. We'll see markets will
start to markets will start to crash. You'll see more people.
The states will start opening their borders in defiance. He
has to he has to cross the rubicon and not
set up camp, just keep going. And if he doesn't
do that, I mean, yeah, then it's then it's gonna
be on us. It's gonna be on you know, the
the old Glory Club becomes, you know, it becomes truly
what it is is to make sure that we survive
and we get through.
Speaker 3: Apparently the judge who made the ruling is Charles Bryer,
the brother of former Scotist Justice Stephen Bryer. So make
of that which you will. But uh, yeah, cheers to
mister Angele here for getting his meme Featural on news
and from what I can tell, actually printed out in Congress.
I mean that's that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice job already then, so, uh, let us move
on to the last story that we have for the night, which,
in light of all the stuff going on in LA
and everything, Uh, this one just kind of flew under
the radarf for some people. But this is definitely one
that we have all been uh excited to see. So
let's listen from the president's mouth.
Speaker 8: Breaking news. We are also going to be restoring the
names to Fort Pickett, Fort Hood, Fort Gordon, Fort Brucker,
Fort Polk, Fort ap Hill, and Fort Robert E.
Speaker 3: Lee.
Speaker 2: We want a lot of battles out of those forts.
It's no time to change.
Speaker 6: And I'm superstitious, you know, I'd like to keep it going, right,
I'm very superstitious. We want to keep it going. So
that's a big story. We just announced that today.
Speaker 1: Well, well this is an excellent start. It is not
going to be enough until we get reconstruction of all
of the statues that have been torn down of Confederate
generals and other Confederate members in every single place they
were ripped out in this country. But it's certainly a
step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Well, this is another one of those moments, is it,
Because I think the law is that when those when
those Forts were stripped of their names. They could not
be replaced with Confederate you know, with anyone whoever had
insurrection against the government. The best thing to do, I think,
would you know, try to find match up names with
like J sixers, if anybody, if anybody who is a
J sixer at a last name Lee or something like that,
or you What I would do is just ignore the
law and put the name back on there and say,
what are you going to do? What are you going
to do? I mean, if he's not willing to do
that at this point, again, where are we?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if there's a provision in the
big beautiful bill someone missed or something, but yeah, this
is this is illegal and he should just do it.
I mean, he said Robert E. Lee, not just Lee,
so ap Hill as well. I mean, is there some
random guy with the initials ap Hill? You know, probably
I guess, But no, they should just be renamed and yeah,
look screw the rules. I mean, how Congress, sorry Congress,
you can't. You can't decide what the forts are named
because Trump is the commander in chief, Like, just do it.
So these moments are fast approaching now, I mean, like
I said, We've got this injunction just came out in
California saying that actually the National Guard belongs to California
and not mister Trump. So he's I mean, basically he
right now he has to make this decision. Is he
going to go against the courts? Is he going to
go against Congress? It's it's basically one.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we're gonna find out. But you know what,
one of the other things I want to stress about
this is that only President Trump would ever do something
like this and bring this up trying to reinstate names
of Confederates. There's no other Republican that would remotely have
the gall to do this over something that is just
so obvious and so simple that we just should be doing.
It's like, why is it that any politician in the
United States is just not allowed to say any good
things about the Confederacy. I mean, I keep bringing this
up all the time. But Charlie, your stream that you
did with Apostock Majesty about the Life of Roberty Lee
is some of the best content we've ever put out
like in this entire sphere, and it's essential watching for
anyone who hasn't seen it yet. I mean, Roberty Lee
is one of the greatest Americans this country has ever produced,
by far, and the fact that this man's name has
drug through the mud, particularly over the last couple of decades,
is of a special kind of egregiousness and it really
just does anger me. And I'm a Northerner. I'm not
even from the South.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are Americans.
Speaker 4: I mean, what is this.
Speaker 3: The Congress passed the law saying you can't name military
bases after America. This is bullshit.
Speaker 2: Look, I'll say something right now, and people can get
mad if they want. Properly understood. The Confederate flag is
the flag of America.
Speaker 3: One, you know. Frankly, I hate seeing the Imperial flag
hanging up everywhere, and I don't mean the Pride flag.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll definitely keep an eye on this one. Hopefully,
I'm more hopefully the more things like this are on
the horizon for this one, especially coming up with the
fifty anniversary whenever, apparently the whole country's can be focusing
on the history of each state. With all these big
bar aids and everything that Trump is talking about, I mean,
there's definitely plenty of room for Southern bride and Southern
heritage to rise once again, so hopefully we'll see it.
But let's go through some of the super chats that
got in before the Internet crapped out on us. If
you guys are watching this on the premiere, you're superchat
so you're putting in. We'll be right out next week
on the stream. So let's just quickly go through the
ones that we do have and we'll read the rest
of them next week. So beginning at the top, we
got Solid Snake nineteen sixty four. He has snuck behind
enemy lines is once again retained his number one super
chatter status, so he's at the front of the line
this week evening, gents, seeing these riots play out makes
me glad I'm not in the Southwest anymore. Got to
go to Somaliland Minneapolis for family next month for homing.
Homing elderly family prayers appreciated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, peacepep on you, sir for going into enemy territory.
So let's go to Maple Copperhead for a ten bucks salute, gentlemen.
I have to work late this evening. We're winning when
plant managers up to CEO are getting arrested by ice
and boards are being fine and into bankruptcy. Yeah, I
mean we talked about this. I mean you can't just
go with deporting legal immigrants. You do have to go
to these businesses, and you also have to try the
people who are actually employing these legal immigrants as well.
I mean, this is one of those things that the
left is always like trying to dunk on, you know,
people like us for and stuff. He's like, oh, well,
you know the real big problem is these corporations are
actually employing the illegal immigrants. What do you say about that.
It's like, yeah, get rid of them too, find them
and put them out of business. I don't fucking care.
Who do you think this is. This isn't your Miami's
you know, right wing you're dealing with.
Speaker 2: I have a radical idea. If you're caught employing illegals,
we nationalize your business. And there you go.
Speaker 4: It was pretty simple.
Speaker 1: Mmm, brown Box for ten bucks, Hello for Iowa, keep
up the good work, or on gives you a salute.
Speaker 4: There you go, thank you, thanks, And.
Speaker 1: Joshua Peebee for two bucks says first, Sorry, sir, you
are not first. There are many other super chowers ahead
of you. Good luck. Nice try. Let's see mister Clockwork
for five bucks says they must all go back. This
is our country, as country as ours, and it belongs
to us. It does not belong to the world one
hundred percent. And if you guys want to figure out
what you could do best in these trying times, be
sure to check out the Old Glory Club website. Get
involved with all your local chapters. Were approaching thirty of
them and now at this point and this week, I
also want to shout out if anyone's in the Dakota's
North and South Dakota, those guys are trying to get
chapters spung up. So if you are in either of
those states, they're reaching a critical mass for amount of
people that they want. But you know, so if you're
in the South Dakota or North Dakota, please reach out
to us at the ogloricclubatgmail dot com and we'll put
you in contact with those guys and hopefully they can
get something spun up up there. We truly are not
a American organization until we have representation in all of
our great states. So let's get to it. We got
airmeg Discourse for one hundred dollars. This is undoubledly the
super chat of a night, and he deserves some gold.
I love gold.
Speaker 4: The look a bit, smell, a bit detexture.
Speaker 7: I love gold.
Speaker 1: I'll thank you very much, sir. Indeed you do love
some gold. So for one hundred bucks, he says. My
local city planning commission voted six to one against the
opening of a new g owned liquor store, specifically of
one I know hates Americans. I totally didn't let people
know about his feelings about the locals being known. You
can do things even directly and small. Well, fantastic work, sir,
Thank you very much for it never gets sold. It
never gets sold. I know it's on that soundboard somewhere
and it just comes up every time. Got amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, well, we.
Speaker 1: Didn't actually even talk about the plane crash that was
in India today, so that was another thing that was
making the rounds earlier. But Jackson Walker our final super
chat for the night for ten bucks, keep America American
mass deportations. Now, you know one final thing I'll mention
you know, on the subject of the libertarian discussion, you
didn't see any signs at Trump rallies throughout the entire
campaign season about balance the budget. And cut the deficit.
Now you saw signs for mass deportations. That is the
number one mandate that Trump has above everything else in
his administration is mass deportations, solve the immigration problem. That's
what everyone voted for him before. That's what all the
enemies of Donald Trump know is his main agenda for
the administration as well. This is just the defining issue
of our time. Nothing else matters except the demographics and
immigration problem, period. Everything else is second. Alrighty, let's go
around the panel. People can promote their stuff and we
will wrap it up for the evening. So, Bete, you've
always got shows going on. What do you cooking?
Speaker 2: This week? Just dropped an episode with Thomas, continuing our
Continental Philosophy series on h Grotis Grotius. Yeah, I just know.
I'm started texting with Tom Lawongo and over here and
he has some choice words about Israel and yeah, I'm
just in a mood. So check check out the latest
with me and Thomas. Thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Charlemagne, do you have anything to promote?
Speaker 11: Sir?
Speaker 3: Yeah, either today or tomorrow. I should be publishing another
book review of my blog, which I need to do
so I can get to another important book that I'm
going to be reading in relation to some some new
content were going to be publishing very soon for the
Old Glory Club.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, we will be making some major announcements very
very soon about some new content coming your way to
the lovely audience coming out of the Old Glory Club.
So watch this space. It's going to be pretty exciting stuff.
So and our special guest for tonight, Martin McIntyre. Always
a pleasure to speak with you, sir. What do you
have to promote?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say that Pete's philosophy series has been really interesting.
I'll also say that in most of the way through
John Slaughter's novel, So if you have not read that
one Alumni of the Old Glory Club, you should definitely
do so it's very good. And then of course I've
got the Nick Land interview dropping tomorrow on the arm
McIntyre show, so I think everybody's going to enjoy that
with a lot. Is really fascinating.
Speaker 2: So check that out, thank you orin.
Speaker 1: All righty excellent, So for myself, be sure to check
me out. I'll be around with the Rule zero Gang
and Post Zero not this weekend because Father's Day stuff.
But next weekend I'll definitely be back around with those guys,
and you know, later this year, hopefully i'll have some
very very interesting and amazing content to share with everyone.
I'll be keeping everyone updated on that one as it
slowly gets rolled out, but it's gonna be huge, so
that'll be really really cool. But with that out of
the way, once again, this is pre recorded due to
a technical issue, but we'll be back live next week.
It will be reading out the rest of the super
chats that came in live during this premiere, so we'll
see you guys next week.