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Cougar basketball BYU versus Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: A little Nova Faue segment.
Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hotline will come in the
voice of the Oklahoma State Cowboys.
Speaker 3: That's right, Let's go, Pokes.
Speaker 2: David Hunt Sicker is the line, Big Dave.
Speaker 3: How the heck are you?
Speaker 2: Buddy?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, I've been introduced like this since my funeral,
which hasn't happened yet. So yeah, good times.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, that's how we roll here.
Speaker 2: We get people hyped, we get people going, and you're
you're in what like your twenty twenty fifth, twenty sixth season?
Now is the voice of the Oklahoma State cal Pokes.
How has it been? How great has it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's been awesome. It's been awesome. It's been twenty
five years and it's been fantastic because we you know,
we had a renaissance in football and now the last
couple of years have been bumpy. Obviously we know that,
but I mean, gush I came in here right when
football took off. So it was sort of the the
grand time of Oklahoma State athletics when we went to
a Final four in two thousand and four and and
you know, had some good basketball teams and of course
football with coach Gundy was awesome. So yes, I've been
blessed for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like there's a there's a there's a
new sheriff in town for football.
Speaker 3: Before we get into this basketball.
Speaker 2: Talk, what's the vibe like all the football front exciting?
Speaker 5: Eric Morris had a news conference today and talked about
the eighty one new players that the team will have
this year. So that may be the most that's ever
been brought into a program in the history of college football.
I can't verify that, obviously, but it's exciting me. He
just here's the deal. I love his approach. He's so
much about team building and you know, creating an atmosphere
of unity. I mean, and it's not just he's not
just yaking, it's not just cliches. And I love his
offensive system. I think he's I think he's built a
nice roster. Doesn't mean that, you know, Oklahoma State necessary
they win the Big Twelve. I mean it takes you know,
have one a conference game in two years, so it's
it's been a minute. But I think and he's got
the fan base energize. I think he's a really really
good coach. And his philosophy in terms of building a roster,
spending money, team building, I absolutely love it. If I
had a son, I'd want him to play for him
in a minute.
Speaker 3: Love that breakdown. Eighty one new players.
Speaker 2: That's an insane number, maybe the biggest, biggest acquisition hall
in all of college football.
Speaker 5: It's stressing me out. I got to learn all these
new guys. There's hard enough last year, so I'll be
ready by the first game. But I've never taken the
roster with me. When I go on walks or runs
during the preseason. Usually I just go I know the guys,
and you know, go to practice and get things memorized. Well,
I had to last year because we had fifty new
guys last year. I don't remember how many it was.
It was a bunch. Didn't work out very well. But yeah,
I've got some work to do.
Speaker 4: But that's okay.
Speaker 3: I know you like to do your homework, and.
Speaker 2: Let's get some homework on this Oklahoma State basketball team.
What would you say is the identity of this Oklahoma
State basketball team is as they're preparing to to meet
the BYU Cougar basketball team.
Speaker 5: Well, they want to play fast. They're fourteenth in the
country and tempo, and that's important to them. They want
to get out in the fast break and run. But
once you get into conference play, that gets that gets
limited to a large extent, or even shut down in
some cases because you know, teams realize you want to
run and they are not going to let you run.
They have the ability to score in several different ways,
whether it's Anthony Roy shooting threes he had twenty six
the other night, or Parsafalla. Now, Parsa has been in
a bit of a dip. You might remember him from
Oregon State six' nine. Forward he was on a terrific
run at the start of conference. Play, yeah, ever it's
twenty points per game over a five game. Stretch that
was the best run of scoring by A cowboy center
Since country nineteen ninety, five a long time. Ago but
he's had a bit of a. Dip but he's a key,
TONIGHT i think for a number of. REASONS i, mean he,
can he, can you, know he's just he's just been
a little bit. OFF i don't think anybody's worried about,
Him but if you think about the four GAMES byu has.
Lost in three of those, games centers did some serious,
damage you, Know kansas On, Saturday yukon back In, november
and Obviously Texas, TECH. Jt top AND i don't even
know what you call. Him he's he's a shoot, it
go get. It he plays nerf. Hoop he just shoots
it up there as quick as he, can and he
goes and grabs it like he's playing on an old nerf.
Hoop so you know he's important tonight BECAUSE i, think you,
know Hopefully Oklahoma state can can get a big night from,
him similar to what those other centers and power forwards have.
Speaker 2: Done what do you think The cougar coaching staff is
seeing on film of This Oklahoma state game right at
the south of The Oklahoma state team right if they're
projecting as the ortical Of state's going to.
Speaker 3: Do what do you think they're scattered report of?
Speaker 5: SAYING i think one thing that you know you've got
to be. Aware you know you cannot Lose Anthony roy
under any. CIRCUMSTANCE i, mean because he has UNLIMITED nba type.
Range he's left. Handed that complicates things even. Further you
have to say they are not getting out on the past,
break absolutely. Not now what does that? Mean you know
how many guys will Be why you send to the offensive?
Glass that's always the magic in that. EQUATION a lot
of teams that had sent four to the offensive glass
on a regular basis did not do that Against Oklahoma.
State for, Example Texas tech was a team that was
regularly sending four to the offensive glass when they Played Oklahoma.
State most of the day they sent two and that
was it because they had made the Decision Oklahoma state
is not going to. Run so the interesting part of
this to me will, be you, know by use a
great rebounding. TEAM i, mean And saunders is a nightmare
in terms of what not only a, shooter but what
he can do on the offensive glass Against Oklahoma. State
that's a little scary to. Me it's not just his,
shooting but you know what he can do on the offensive.
Glass but if you try to send four to the
offensive glass and you don't get, it it's going the
other way in a. Hurry So BYU's approach to that
will be. Important and THEN i think FOR byu as,
well how are The cowboys going to? Defend The cowboys
took a very different defensive approach Against, utah in particular
in the second, half when they really for the most
part played the gaps as far as away from the.
Ball was concerned something they have not done because they've
had major struggles giving up straight line drives and consequently
they've given up a ton of three point. Baskets so
they made some changes to try to rectify, that and
they Held utah to its worst three point shooting game
of the. Year they went five for. Twenty SO i
think if YOU'RE, byu you're trying to figure, Out, okay
what exactly Will Oklahoma state do on.
Speaker 2: Defense i've described The Big twelve as The universe or
THE G league with university. Logos seeing all THESE g
leaders come into The Big twelve makes, me, uh maybe
rethink it because like it seems like all the all
The big twelve players are actually better than THE g
leaguers that are being brought. In But i'll stick to.
It how would you describe? IT i mean your court,
side you're watching, this how would you Describe big twelve
The gauntlet?
Speaker 5: Play, well it's it's in the you, know the skill
level is off the, charts but you, know right there
hand in hand is the fact that it's a fistfight
in this. LEAGUE i mean to, me, NOW i was
talking to coach lets about. This the other, DAY i
had a chance to Watch iowa And illinois in person
At Iowa. City of, course The illinois, staff many of
them were At Oklahoma state during Brand underwood's one season
here and had chance to reconnect for some old friends
while we were at Playing Iowa. State and WHAT i saw,
was you, know The big twelve and The Big ten
have sort of. Flipped you, know it used to be
The Big ten with the, physical rough and tumble league
with back to the basket centers and if you didn't
have a seven foot or seven one guy that you,
know wasn't capable of dominating a, game you couldn't. Compete
but we, still you, know we have some of those
guys now in The Big. Tulp it's not obviously a
league full of, them but we have a lot more of.
Them and what we used to and this league is.
PHYSICAL i, mean if it's not a, felony it's not a.
Foul in, fact if it's not a thirty year life sentence.
Felony it's not a, foul so you better be ready
to be. Hit and as one coaching friend of mine
said years, ago the difference between a great player and
an elite player is the ability to finish with contact.
Coming you have to finish when you get, hit and
in this, League Hugh darnwell better be able to do
that or it's not going to be it's the outcome
will not be, good.
Speaker 2: Not good at. All, right talking SOME byu, Basketball Oklahoma
state basketball here on Your YOUTAH Espn Radio network with
the voice of The Oklahoma State, Cowboys David. Hunsinger and
let's get into a little. Bit, hey how do you
see this game playing out? Tonight what do you think?
Happens i'm sure it'll be a competitive, one a close.
One how do you feel playing?
Speaker 4: Out you know it'll be.
Speaker 5: Interesting this is a big game For Oklahoma state if
they want to have a chance to make the nc doublea,
tournament and they don't necessarily have to win, it they
just have to be competitive because they've been blown out
at home By baylor and By Iowa. State Iowa state
was up thirty On Oklahoma state at half that WAS
i guess a week and a half, ago and so
you just need to have a good showing to show
the committee, that, hey we are a capable. Team we
can take the best in the country to the, wire
may not, win but we can play them. Tough BECAUSE
i think if you lose this game and get blown,
out if You're Oklahoma, STATE i think YOUR NC doublea
tournament chances are in enormous trouble because now you may
have to pick up an extra win just to sort
of prove to the committee that you're. Capable BUT i
think the big thing will, be you, know can you
guard aj without just you can't put him on the,
line and you've got to figure out a way to
make his shots. Hard so you have to be able
to close under control and make him just shoot over.
You and that still may not work out very well
Because Oklahoma state does not have anyone that is ideal
to guard, Him so that's a complicating. Factor The cowboys
are not super athletic by any means at the four
and a five, position so that makes things a little
bit more. Complex But Oklahoma state needs to find a
way to get out on the fast break and get
some easy. Baskets BUT i THINK byu leaves here with a,
win and, probably to be, honest by double. DIGITS i
just don't know if The cowboys can STOP byu and
f to make it a tight. Game AND i think
DEFENSIVELY byu does a really good job of defending without,
fouling and The cowboys typically are a team that needs
to get to the free throw line to.
Speaker 2: Win you bring up a really good point about. Ajdbots
he's looking for foul sometimes sometimes he gets. Them sometimes he,
does and it seems like he hasn't been getting them
in some of these high profile games them again into the,
line maybe as much as he would deem a Fair
how do you feel the the refs call games in
The Big.
Speaker 3: Twelve i'm not saying it's good or. Bad.
Speaker 2: Right do they let guys play more often? Not is
it a more physical physically allowance, conference you know WHAT
i mean compared to other?
Speaker 3: Conferences?
Speaker 5: Oh, it it's changed. DRASTICALLY i, MEAN i mean it
it's sort of trended this, direction but it's changed. DRASTICALLY
i mean this year it is completely.
Speaker 4: Different but it is.
Speaker 5: CONSISTENT i, mean doesn't matter who you, are it's an
equal opportunity beat the crap out of your. League but
There vegas beat up and.
Speaker 2: It's, funny, MAN i see the same. Thing it's, like
you're not gonna get calls like. This we're just gonna
beat the throat out of each. Other and then what's
funny is you get into THE ncaa, tournament you actually
may get some.
Speaker 5: Calls see that concerns, me but you, know because it
might change in THE ncublea. Tournament that is a bit
of a worry because the league is so. Physical at
the same, time the games can't go on too long
in THE nc DOUBLE a tournament because it fouls up
the television. Windows so you don't usually see a crazy
amount of fouls called THE NC doublea tournament play just
to keep the games from going on.
Speaker 3: Forever, yeah, Yeah I'm.
Speaker 2: I'M i think it's interesting that that this is such
a physical league and even like that's so called star
power free throw, opportunities they don't really come all that.
Speaker 5: Often, no they. Don't and it's just it's just the
way it, is and you just have to. Adjust and you,
Know i'm if it's, Consistent i'm okay with. IT i,
MEAN i don't like. It, yeah That i'm okay with.
It the consistency is the. Thing and if everybody's going
to foul the cred out of, people then you know,
what JUST i, guess just let the fur, fly so to.
Speaker 2: Speak i've had this debate with, friends with co, workers
many people over the. Years i'm a football guy, myself
BUT i do, love you, know physical basketball.
Speaker 3: PLAYER i love what The big twelve does.
Speaker 2: If you look at like how refs can determine games
and disrupt games and disrupt.
Speaker 3: Tempo you're a play by play.
Speaker 2: Guy you call, games And i'm sure you enjoy all
the sports that you, call but do you Enjoy collein
football a little bit more because you, know refs can't
determine outcomes as.
Speaker 5: Much you, Know i'll be, HONEST I i'm my favorite
time of year is conference. Basketball and it's not quite
as fun as it used to be because when you
played everybody twice then it was really fun because then
it was, About, okay what's going to happen the second? Meeting,
yeah the team that lost come up with as a,
counter what does the team that won do to maybe
counter the? Counter it's really fun and so you, know
basketball is probably my favorite at your court, Side so
it's a lot. EASIER i think basketball's tons easier to.
Do and there's nothing like conference. PLAY i, mean there's
nothing like a game here. Tonight Oklahoma state is trying
to you, know climb its way and eke its way
back in THE Ncaa tournament, contention AND byu has a
legitimate chance to make The final, four and they have
a guy that's projected to be the second pick in
THE nba. DRAFT i, mean, shoot how much more do you?
WANT i, MEAN i, mean that's as good as it.
Gets and we're going to sit here courtside and watch.
That and then we Have peterson rolling in here With
kansas in a couple of.
Speaker 4: WEEKS i, mean good.
Speaker 5: Grief and then the monsters From, arizona The godzillas are
The big. Twelve we got to deal with them In
tucson On. SATURDAY i, mean what a privilege to see
all these great teams and players and great. COACHES i,
mean it's it's. Awesome nothing against. FOOTBALL i, MEAN i love,
football but conference basketball is really hard to. Top for.
Speaker 3: ME i love.
Speaker 2: It, NO i can understand, it no doubt about. It
like you said we were, talking, Rest i'm, like you,
know what do you enjoy calling? More like you, know
kind of watching more and you know commentating on there you,
mentioned you, know being a play by play voice for.
Football sometimes when you're the play by play base for,
football you're kind of you're kind of high. Up you
may be on the fifty yard, line but you maybe
at a slight. Angle makes things a little bit interesting
sometimes with the play by. Play what's like the perfect like, Level,
like is it like thirtieth row? Up if you could
ideally have you mentioned you were like court it's great
because your court side colum. Basketball what's the ideal level
if you could get there as a play by play
voice for? Football top of the first?
Speaker 5: Deck the height to be able to see everything you
want to just see every too high or too far? Away,
yeah you. Do and and Ours Honestly i'm, biased but
ours is about perfect, heightwise it's perfect and so and
our stands go straight up and they're close to the
field so you're not far. Away makes it a lot easier,
football you have to have a great supporting. Cast if
you don't have a great supporting, cast it's really hard
to do on your. Own you have to have great
Supporters your analyst has to be really. Good your sideline
guy has to be really good guy or. Gal your
spot has to be, Terrific your engineer has to be.
Terrific everybody has to operate on the same sheet of,
music so to. Speak and we're fortunate we have a
bunch of guys that have been together for a, while
and everybody cares deeply about how the games, sound and
so it makes my life tons. EASIER i don't have
to worry about anything BECAUSE i know everybody will cover
everybody up and will be in good.
Speaker 2: Shape David, hunzager the voice of The Oklahoma State, cowboys
TALKING Byu Oklahoma state tonight real quick before we let you, Go,
david appreciate you hopping on and discussing these.
Speaker 3: Topics.
Speaker 2: Obviously tonight's matchup is the eleventh all time meeting between
the two, schools including The cougar's fourth trip To Gallagher
Eba arena In. Stillwater billy holds a six to four
advantage in the, series including winning the past two, games
both of them coming inside the friendly confines of The Marriott,
center but second year head Coach Kevin young is one
and oh against The cowboys after picking up an eighty
five sixty nine victory in provo last. Season BUT i
feel like This cowboys team is a little bit different
than last, year's isn't?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 4: Oh it.
Speaker 5: Is they can score the ball. More last year's team
really had to force turnovers and get out in the
fast break to, score and they could really labor to.
Score this team shoots the ball so much better and
can score at different levels in a variety of different.
Ways so it's a totally different. Team, now last year's
team was pretty good on. Defense this team has really struggled,
defensively so it's sort of flip.
Speaker 3: Flopped, Well, dave good luck on your.
Speaker 2: Call for those that want to tune into it that
are not that you, Needed, Dave you're a season.
Speaker 3: Professional you know what you're.
Speaker 2: Doing but for those that are making it out to Still,
water they want to maybe tune into your, call how
can they do?
Speaker 5: It they can do it On you always listen on
the Lear Field varsity app anywhere in the. World so
if you're driving down the road and we're the Only
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Speaker 2: Lesson love, It, David we soludally appreciate. You thanks so
much for hopping on for a Little no the faux.
Speaker 5: Segment oh you're, welcome happy to do.
Speaker 2: It there you. Go That's david Hunts, aker voice of
The Oklahoma State cowboys B Yu Oklahoma state a big one.
Tonight ba's got to get on the right, track get
back to their winning. Ways they're on the. Road it'll
be a formidable. Foe they are, favored but it's not like,
there you. KNOW i, mean, Look david said that he's
expecting maybe even a double digit win for The cougars
because of the maybe the firepower that The cougar basketball.
Speaker 3: Team is bringing in to Still.
Speaker 2: Water BUT espn analytics giving B yus seventy six point
seven percent chance of. Victory the spread opened at five
and a half in favor of the cougs now sits
at seven and a half so over. Under the total
is one sixty seven and a half so of firepower
heading in, there and they're expecting a high, flight high
scoring event.
Speaker 3: There uh in still.
Speaker 2: Water So ronald the three Man, WEAVER i know you're
you're still suffering from The corona. Flu that's WHAT i call.
It at least there's a you, KNOW i don't know
if did you get, Diagnosed do you get? Diagnosed what
type of sickness this thing?
Speaker 7: Is it's just a normal, flu you. Know but and
look it's probably somewhere WITH. Covid there's a new strand
every like six, months all these all these, strains, Right,
LOOK i don't look at the it's like the lost
sub section sixty FIVE, abz LIKE i, said something that's
added into it every. Year but, yeah, NO i got
the normal stuff that's going. Around will fight through, it,
right you, know three four days and hopefully be back at.
Speaker 3: It nice, Man, well let's give our score. Predictions what
do you?
Speaker 2: SAY i know this this game is an intriguing one to.
You Richie, saunders coming off thirty three points in the last,
game you wonder if The Todd king will still be getting.
BUCKETS aj struggle a little. Bit he's getting doubled a lot,
though which stymied his. Production we hope to see him
get back to that twenty three twenty four to twenty
five points per.
Speaker 3: Game type of.
Speaker 2: Output and Then Rob right the, third also looking to
get back to his distribution and scoring.
Speaker 3: Ways hope to see.
Speaker 2: Maybe Dominicque dilmande coming off the. Bench maybe he'll get
an opportunity versus the Cal polks. Tonight give me a
little score. Prediction how do you see this game play?
Out ronald the three Man? Weaver, YEAH i.
Speaker 7: Think all the big three been get in the. Twenties
If i'm gonna be, HONEST i know that people might
think that sounds. CRAZY i just think with how The cowboys,
struggle you heard it From, Dave they flip. Flop they're
way better on. OFFENSE i do predict the game, this you,
know in in that FOR ba you will be in the.
SEVENTIES i would like to SEE ba you have a
double digit. Win ben on the, road you, know AND
i Know Oklahoma state might not be the most formidable,
point but according to the rankings and the net, ranks
it'd be a quad one. Win they're sixty seventh in the,
net so this.
Speaker 3: Be a good.
Speaker 7: Win it wouldn't be the best, win but you gotta
start look to him much as, given much as required
to go. SPIRIT i can't give you a big, Thing,
ben same thing you taught me on the. SHOW i
can't give you a big task UNTIL i trust you
with the little.
Speaker 3: Task so this is a little.
Speaker 7: Task and WHAT i mean is they're not An. Arizona
they're not a obviously At, kansas but they are still
up there in the big. Twelve so you start tonight
getting back on track going seven and, three which is
WHAT i believe they'll. DO i think running the ball
Through richie and fring up aj is what you need to,
do because If richie's hitting shots that ALLOW ajs to
go one on, One oklahoma still likes to play man,
anyway they will. Switch they don't like to do. It
they'll follow you a. Lot SO i think that boats
well For byu And man And. Man and THEN i
Think Dominique, diamanda if he gets Inserted, BEN i think
he just needs to like light it up defensively and
be all over the boards. GLASS i don't even care
if he's, Fouling, ben just his impact of like it's
not going, away and you would like to See kiba two.
beIN i think the big issue is we haven't Seen
kiba have one of his big. Games you would like
to see him have an impact like An Iowa state
not a career performance like. That but you like to
see eight eight defensive, rebounds six. Offensive but you'd like
to see something like. That BUT i agree on a
scout on, report do not send forth to the offensive
glass because if you, Miss Oklahoma state has gone the other.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 7: Ben and if you let them get, going this is
The Big. Twelve anybody can win on any given night
you're on the. Road if you allow The cowboys to hit,
threes it's. Over so But i'm Taking byu. Out i'll
go seventy, Seven i'll go sixty. FIVE i Think bill
he wants by. Twelve AND i think the big the
break three show up and show, out AND i think
we'll see a sign of Dominique Dia.
Speaker 2: Monday, yeah triple. Combination let's. Go The cowboys are twelve
and two in home. Games by the, Way Oklahoma state
is fourth in The Big twelve score in scoring eighty
five point nine points per game, well shooting forty seven
point four percent from the. Field they could get, hot
they could get Up lustrey there in Still. Water The
cougar's have gone five and three Against big twelve, opponents
averaging eighty six point four points per game and have
outscored their opponents by fourteen points six points per. Game
hopefully they do that. Tonight the Matchup wednesday is the
first meeting of the season for the two, teams, obviously
And Anthony roy is the guy that you need to
know if you're A Byu cougar, fan shooting forty four
point four percent from beyond the arc with three v
point three made three pointers per game for the Cal
polks while averaging seventeen point five points per. Game parcelfala
is shooting fifty three point eight percent from the field
and averaging thirteen point three points over the past ten.
Games Hopefully Rob, right the third AS i, mentioned who's
averaging seventeen and a half points per game five point
two assists for The, cougars has a fantastic showing. Tonight
aj averaging twenty five points seven points per game over
the last ten, games by the, way and he had
a little bit of a dip in some of these
more formidable. Games AND i remember he had that forty
burger Versus, utah which was. Great hopefully he can tap
into that potential and that type of. Productivity so, yeah more.
PRETTY i feel like bole who gets back on the right.
TRACK i think they get into the eighties similar to
like their averages that we've been seeing thus far this.
Season that's kind of How i'm feeling about. This uh
so uh This cougar basketball team getting into the mid
EIGHTIES i think is the.
Speaker 3: Goal first.
Speaker 2: HALF i don't know IF i feel like this first
half is going to be better because there was so
much criticism like whenever K, why like like k why
went to the what went to in front of the
media and, Said i'm gonna throw up Or i'm gonna
be sick IF i have to like talk about how
good we are in the second. Half LIKE i feel
like there's something gonna change this game first. Half, defense
maybe better shot selection in the first, half and maybe
they're getting to the. Rim maybe they're they're attacking the
rim and trying to get to the foul. Line like
What i've said before is LIKE aj should be trying
to get to the rim very early. On if he,
can't you, know you're you, know because he's. Doubled you,
Know let's get him on the move a little, bit
get him some different shots that he hasn't been getting
within the the half court sets that we've been. Employing
too much isoball too MUCH nba. Schematics you can like,
like let's let's we can do that. Stuff, yes but
like in spurts or maybe you know in, uh you,
know just uh in in in minimum. Consumption let's play
great team. Basketball let's. Go let's play great team, basketball
play great, defense and have proper, good judicious shots selection
in the first half of oklhom. Sta if we do,
that all will be, well all will be. Well i'm
gonna say eighty five to seventy B yu gets the
fifteen point victory on the, road a quad one.
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metrics regarding college basketball can how the heck are?
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Speaker 4: Hey ben's doing, great doing. Great thanks having me.
Speaker 2: On always a, pleasure always a. Blessing talking some ball with,
you B yu. Basketball let's start off with These Ken
bob favors B yu and nine of their last. Ten
IF byu goes nine and one in their last ten,
games what type of seeding do you think they could
get in THE ncaa tournament.
Speaker 4: They go to nine and, one though they're looking at you,
know probably. Two, yeah it'd be an incredible. Ryn it should.
Be it should be. Noted and even though And i'm
looking at it right, Now i'm favored in eight of
their last, ten but.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, okay SO i thought it was nine out
of their last. Ten it was about a couple of days.
Ago now it's eight out their last ten that their, Favorite.
Speaker 4: Yeah The Iowa, State, yeah The iOS state game flipped
to AN. L but the POINT i want to make
is that many of those wins are by small, margins
and actually, collectively when you count for the, PROBABILITY i
have them going what six and four down the, stretch
so you, know probably a more realistic expectation of what
the future holds.
Speaker 3: Here so six and?
Speaker 2: Four is there more realistic expectation in these last ten?
Speaker 3: Games?
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean you just don't you know you're not
gonna win every game you're you're favored, by, right especially
when you're only favored by you, know, two, three four
points in some. Cases so so you know they'll be
potentially favored in eight or, Ten but the most likely
record is winning six out of.
Speaker 2: Ten if they win six out of, ten what type
of seeding do you think they get in that?
Speaker 4: Case? Probably you, know you're probably looking get a four Out, Therefore.
Speaker 2: Yeah there's no Chang do you think there's a chance
that this team ends up being a five CEED ncaa?
Tournament is there a world in which that could? Happen
Because i'm dreading that.
Speaker 4: DAY i mean it's. Possible, YEAH i mean it's certainly, like,
yeah they you, KNOW i mean there aren't there an't
any gimmes on them this schedule down the, stretch so you,
know it's certainly. Possible But i'm curious why you're why
you're dreading that.
Speaker 2: WELL i just feel like the five, TWELVES i just
don't feel good about.
Speaker 3: It this is the reason. Why and you could probably
pull up some of this data.
Speaker 2: Too but B yu has gone to THE ncaa tournament
more than any other team without seeing a final.
Speaker 3: Four the only way they get to a final four this.
Year they have great.
Speaker 2: TALENT i don't, KNOW i don't know if they'll do,
it but they got to get a proper.
Speaker 3: Seeding that's the only way they survive in.
Speaker 4: ADVANCE i, mean it certainly would, help no, question it
would help to you, know get a, four get a.
Three you, know you get that three. Seed now you're
playing you, know it's a low major team that won
their conference tournament or something like. That so at least
you have a you, know a game in the first
round with a large margin for. Air you don't have
to play your best and you should win that, game
so that certainly would, help but there's nothing that says
they can't get out of there with a five seed as.
WELL i, Mean San Diego state made we made the
title game twenty three with the five, seeds so it's slowly.
Possible BUT i think it's mainly it's less the seed
and more just like how you got to that. Seed you,
know they're gonna end up with a five seeds and
they're probably going something like five and five down the,
stratch which.
Speaker 5: You, know that's just that in The south of abode
well for trying to get to a final. Four you,
know you end up with that three, seed you're gonna
play some some pretty good ball down the, stratch and you,
know regardless of what The Sea lion says like, it
you'll kind of approven that you're A final four.
Speaker 2: Contender Ken, uh did you by chance catch the? Look
let me preface. IT i Love Ken, POM i lean
On Kin. POM i bracket. MYSELF i utilize my my
my kN palm analytics to to get the best bracket
amongst my friends and family.
Speaker 3: MEMBERS i believe In ken Pom.
Speaker 2: Uh Doug gottlieb apparently does not believe In Ken palm Roy.
Metrics did you get the did you? Did have you
heard this this tirade that he went off on regarding your.
Speaker 4: ANALYTICS i, YES i many many people have brought it
to my, attention and, uh you, know it's kind of
a badge of. HONOR i mean he starts off the WHOLE.
Ti first of, all the question that was active him
had nothing to do with. Me so it's, like, yeah
he wants to launch this this tirade anyway he, could
and then he like he prefaces. It i'd, say, yeah
here's a here's a viral sound, bite and you know
he was, right like he created A u creat a
viral sound bite using my, Name SO i got in some, ways, it's,
uh you, know kind of a badge of honor THAT
i could be on the receiving into.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean like when you hear, critics, right obviously
your metric stands at the test of time in my, opinion,
uh and it continues to get. Better but when you
hear critics say, things what is? It what are they
tried to Poke? Colson what are they? Saying why are
they critiquing?
Speaker 4: It i'm not really Sure In doug's. CASE i mean, it's,
uh you, know people can go listen to is his
speel Of it's like four minutes. LONG i, MEAN i
really don't recommend, it but but.
Speaker 2: It's all over the.
Speaker 4: Place it's like he's. Criticizing you, know there's teams in
his league that played really tough non conference schedules and
apparently my system like overvalues. That but then there's also
teams Like, Miami ohio who played week non conference schedules
and apparently might just overvaluees. That and so my system
it seems like just overvalues everything that Theug otley's Team
Green bay does not. Do you. Know so, ANYWAY i
don't know Why doug is so concerned about his standing
in my. RATINGS i, mean they say are ranked two
thirty ninth as of right, now so maybe Maybe i'm underrating.
Them maybe they're like one ninety fourth or something in real.
LIFE i don't, know but they're a five hundred team
in The Horizons, league so that's where where they are.
Speaker 2: There, yeah it was just he's just ticked off at the.
Speaker 3: World.
Speaker 2: Man that's you, know, snarky you, know competitive and uh you,
know a little bit.
Speaker 3: Petty maybe that's the reason.
Speaker 2: Why but you, know this This big twelve conference right,
now let's talk about the best basketball conference in basketball
conferences right now in college? Basketball is That big twelve the,
best would you? Say or is it The Big?
Speaker 4: Ten all, right, well here we. Go this is this
is a little bit of a thorny. Issue but, uh you,
KNOW i do have conference ratings on my, site and
SO i you, KNOW i RATE i rate the conferences
by basically how good you have to be to go five,
hundred which people might think that's not usefuler or, whatever
but it does kind of value the entire. League and
in that, case THE sec still raises the number one,
league mainly because the bottom of the league is so,
Strong like obviously the top of the league is not
as strong as it as it was last, year although you,
know you Have, florida who IS i think rapidly advancing
into a national title and tender. Consideration but on that,
basis THE sec is number. One you, know if you're
looking at at the top of the of the. Leagues,
yeah it's certainly like a close call between The big
twelve and The Big. Ten might your flight edge to
The Big twelve, there although you, know The Big ten
has a case as. Well it's hard to you, know
it's really, subjective but, yeah in terms of the top,
end in terms of the number of, bids, like, yeah
those two leagues figure to have most of the storylines
when we get The.
Speaker 2: March, yeah it's it's always, intriguing, Right like we're getting
down the stretch, Here we're we're not too far away
From march. Madness some people believe it's the most wonderful
time of the. Year, Uh and, look we love it
here AT esp and the fan and it's it's remarkable to,
watch you, know The cinderella.
Speaker 3: Stories what's your way too Early.
Speaker 2: Cinderella you, know like if you were to look at
a team right now that's maybe trending in the right
direction or could trend in the right direction to based
off of the analytics that you're aware, of you, know
who could be a Potential cinderella story this?
Speaker 3: Year do you?
Speaker 4: Think, YEAH i mean the you, know it depends that
we frame you, Know cinderella right now in this modern.
Era they're obviously the mid Major cinderella has not gone,
extinct but it certainly head in that. Direction but there
is one team in that realm THAT i think stands
out and that Is Saint. Louis Saint Louis, billikens who
have lost one game this, year and it was on
one of the most unbelievable endings you'll. See Saint louis
foul filed up three sort of traditional you, know coaching,
methodology And stanford missed their, second made their, first miss
their second and hit a three off the rebound and
won the game in. Regulation and that that Was Saint
louis's only. Lost But Josh, shurson coach At Saint, louis you,
know he's probably in line for A i made your
job after this. Season just runs a beautiful. Offense people
may may remember the Name Robbie, avula who who played
with shirts In Indiana state and where's the the goggles
on the, court and not necessarily the most toned and
athletic body you'll see out, there but very effective offensive.
Player it's just it's a really good and beat team
and actually leads the country in defensive effective field goal
percentage in the second in the country and offensive effective
field goal. Percentage so they're doing things right on both
ends of the. Court not necessarily you, know playing the
schedule that the high majors. Play but you, know like
tends a pretty solid, league And Saint louis gets into the,
tournament you know they'll certainly be that team that people lock.
Onto is a, potential you, know old school mid Major.
Speaker 2: Cinderella one of the METRICS i was looking at WHEN
i was pulling up SOME byu stuff, today blu's.
Speaker 3: Luck rating not too.
Speaker 2: GOOD i think they're right two hundred right. Now explain
the luck rating to our listeners and why B yu
hasn't been so lucky this.
Speaker 4: Year, yeah the luckrating just look at close game. Performance
so the theory is, that you, know teams don't have
a lot of control of their, outcomes and close games
certathing less control and close game outcomes they. Do and you,
know games that are blowouts for for obvious. Reasons and
so if you win a lot of close, games you
go up in the luck, grating and if you lose
a lot of close, games you go down on the luck.
Rating but peowas kind of in the. Middle you, know
the middle Of division one is about one, eightieth so
two hundredth and it's pretty average when it comes right
down to. It but you, know basically just you, know
b like just won some close. Games they lost in close.
Games they haven't shown any particular direction or trend in that.
Area and it's not to say that like teams don't
have skill in close games at, all but that skill
is very. Limited you, know you present a team with
ten consecutive one possession, games even the best team In,
land and you're only gonna win six or seven of those.
GAMES i should only win six or seven of the. Games,
obviously they can get lucky and win, ten or they
can get unlucky and win. Three but, yeah that's basically
the idea behind the luck.
Speaker 2: Rating, Kenpomerly kenpalm dot com getting prep getting ready for
SOME bayu BASKETBALL. Bo you're taking On Oklahoma state and
as you, mentioned you know they are favored in eight
of their last ten. Games and you're looking at the
four potential big. Losses, right these are high Level big twelve.
TEAMS i don't think a loss comes, tonight but let's
look at those four potential losses if we. Could in
the back end of This big twelve. Schedule Obviously Texas
TECH i stayed amongst them at Yule. A is. There you,
know when you look at these, games what do you
see and what do you see from these teams that
make them just so good comparative to B.
Speaker 4: Yu, well, YEAH i mean we're looking at like the
games you have. Lost it's, uh you, know the story
has really been you, know, defensively like, offensively they've been just.
Fine in, fact, uh you, know the last two games
they've put up really in terms of points for, possession
some of the best performances against Both arizona And kansas
that those teams have seen all. Year, uh you should win.
That you should win those. GAMES i, mean not put
it anymore, plainly but you, know when you're scoring as
many points, that you, know in terms of points for
possession as the teams have seen all, Year, like you,
know you don't need to play great defensive when those,
games if you you hasn't quite on the defensive end
to interior defense risen to the to the call on that.
One but but that's you, know that's kind of been
the story, lately and, uh you, know probably the story
the rest of the. Year like you, know we can
talk about you, know maybe a J De bonds are,
struggling you, know Against kansas or, whatever they really did
a great jobs shutting him, down and you're gonna see,
that you know more as the year goes. On sponsors
numbers suffered a little bit In big twelve, play but
nonetheless that is still cranking along at a at a
pretty good rate and really not the. Issue it's really
can this team defend against some of these better teams
down the. Stretch that's going to, be you, know that's
going to make the difference between you, know getting that
three seed or getting that five.
Speaker 2: Seeds why is B yu bad in the first? Half
is it just all defensive? Related is that what's? Happening,
yeah that's a good.
Speaker 4: Question you, Know i've Seen i've seen people try to
ascribe some meaning to, this AND i don't know. That you,
KNOW i did that. Myself you know it certainly early
in the season it felt like they were relying so
much On aja that you, know maybe it was just,
like you, know you're Not you're not trying as hard
in the first. Half you're not going all out in
the first half because the offense runs so much THROUGH
aj in the second half that you, know you just
you do have to pace yourself a little, bit But
i'm Not it's kind of gone On i'm not really
sure that's the. Case they haven't been relying ON aj as.
Much certainly in The kansas game they.
Speaker 3: Didn't.
Speaker 4: SO i don't. Know, yeah you, KNOW i think everybody
wants to describe some deep meaning, here but to, me
it's just sort of just a bunch of of. Randomness
we'll see what happens down the. Stretch but obviously it
doesn't Serve dyul to dig these big. Holes but also
they know going into the game it doesn't serve them,
well and so you, know they're NOT i don't think
they're doing this obviously not doing it on. Purpose and to,
me it's just like they just didn't dictimize a little
bit by, yeah starting, slow the other team starts, pass
but it's probably more dumb bad luck and than anything.
Speaker 2: Else they got one of the best tri efectives in college,
basketball no doubt about, THAT aj And ritchie And. Rob
what they don't have is a productive. Bench they don't
have productive you, know ancillary auxiliary. Player campu has been
solid doing what he, does but uh, uh you, know
you wonder who's gonna step. Up there's been buzz that
Maybe alexi could Or Dominique diomande or, uh maybe A Tyler.
Marage they got to find somebody off the. Bench who
could it, be do you, Think.
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't.
Speaker 4: Know it's pretty late in the year too uh to
find you, know somebody who's gonna be an obvious fourth.
Option but you, know it's somewhat of an. Issue but
LIKE i, said like the offense has been pretty, Good like,
yeah we, can we can criticize it and clearly like,
yeah there's a lack of depth, there like they rely
a lot on on three, guys and you, know if
something were to happen to any of those three guys help,
wise like you're going to have a serious. Issue but
assuming that doesn't, Happen i'm not too too concerned, about,
uh you, know needing that fourth option. NECESSARILY i mean
those three guys are are really, good and they compliment
each other pretty, Well like there's not a lot of
like duplication of skill, there like they all do things
a little bit. Differently and you know it's like to,
me you need you need like Kaya cata like focused
on the defensive, end SO i don't need him getting
too involved, Offensively like he's going to expend most of
his energy on the defensive end defending the. Rim that's you.
Speaker 3: Know a.
Speaker 4: Positive so uh, so, YEAH i don't think you're going
to necessarily see a fourth option suddenly developed at this
point the. Season BUT i also don't think it's a real.
Issue like the offense is humming pretty, good and it's
huming on nights when even When aj is not you,
know playing great or Or Richie Sautner's Rob wright is
is not you, know necessarily contributing up to their match like,
it it just finds a way to. Work so like to,
me the the offense for for all the things we
could complain, about has been really really, Solid.
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Speaker 8: Updates we start off with, basketball where Both delane And
gibb And Richie saunders were named to their Respective top
Ten Shooting guards of The year award, finalists And Ute
bonsa was also named as A top ten Small forward
of The year final De. Bonsa saunders and the men's
seen tip off tonight and Still, Water oklahoma against The
cowboys Of Oklahoma state and A quad one, opportunity While
gibb and the women's team had The kansas to face
The jayhawks looking for the program's first win Over kansas.
Yesterday klone's take and now four more hires to his
staff that include the following. Men the biggest name Was Tyra,
hughes who was hired as the new assistant quarterbacks, coach
Replacing Matt mitchell who left to join The Colorado state coaching.
Staff he was as a member of the church who
was born In. Utah in twenty, twenty he made the
jump from the coaching staff Of Bountiful High school to THE,
nfl where he was an assistant coach on The New England.
Patriots after three years with The, pats he was on
the staff at The university Of washington during their championship
run in twenty twenty. Three he quickly went back to The,
patriots where in twenty twenty four he was their wife receivers.
Coach after a quick pit stop on The alabama coaching
staff last, Year hughes transitions TO byu where he brings
a load of experience To Aaron rodgers' offensive. Staff Raylan
singleton was hired to Assist Bessei sataki as an assistant
wide receivers. Coach Tyas moe is an assistant linebackers. Coach
Dylan allman Aiding Justin enna as an assistant special teams.
Coach all three of those hired are promotion from within the.
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Watson all eight of these players are returning from. Mission
special teams Coordinator Justin enna also told media today the
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