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Cougar basketball BYU versus Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 3: A little Nova Faue segment.

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hotline will come in the

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voice of the Oklahoma State Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Let's go, Pokes.

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Speaker 2: David Hunt Sicker is the line, Big Dave.

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Speaker 3: How the heck are you?

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Speaker 2: Buddy?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, I've been introduced like this since my funeral,

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which hasn't happened yet. So yeah, good times.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, that's how we roll here.

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Speaker 2: We get people hyped, we get people going, and you're

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you're in what like your twenty twenty fifth, twenty sixth season?

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Now is the voice of the Oklahoma State cal Pokes.

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How has it been? How great has it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How many?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's been awesome. It's been awesome. It's been twenty

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five years and it's been fantastic because we you know,

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we had a renaissance in football and now the last

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couple of years have been bumpy. Obviously we know that,

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but I mean, gush I came in here right when

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football took off. So it was sort of the the

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grand time of Oklahoma State athletics when we went to

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a Final four in two thousand and four and and

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you know, had some good basketball teams and of course

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football with coach Gundy was awesome. So yes, I've been

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blessed for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like there's a there's a there's a

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new sheriff in town for football.

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Speaker 3: Before we get into this basketball.

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Speaker 2: Talk, what's the vibe like all the football front exciting?

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Speaker 5: Eric Morris had a news conference today and talked about

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the eighty one new players that the team will have

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this year. So that may be the most that's ever

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been brought into a program in the history of college football.

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I can't verify that, obviously, but it's exciting me. He

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just here's the deal. I love his approach. He's so

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much about team building and you know, creating an atmosphere

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of unity. I mean, and it's not just he's not

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just yaking, it's not just cliches. And I love his

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offensive system. I think he's I think he's built a

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nice roster. Doesn't mean that, you know, Oklahoma State necessary

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they win the Big Twelve. I mean it takes you know,

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have one a conference game in two years, so it's

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it's been a minute. But I think and he's got

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the fan base energize. I think he's a really really

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good coach. And his philosophy in terms of building a roster,

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spending money, team building, I absolutely love it. If I

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had a son, I'd want him to play for him

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in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Love that breakdown. Eighty one new players.

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Speaker 2: That's an insane number, maybe the biggest, biggest acquisition hall

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Speaker 5: It's stressing me out. I got to learn all these

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new guys. There's hard enough last year, so I'll be

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ready by the first game. But I've never taken the

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roster with me. When I go on walks or runs

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during the preseason. Usually I just go I know the guys,

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and you know, go to practice and get things memorized. Well,

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guys last year. I don't remember how many it was.

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Speaker 4: But that's okay.

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Speaker 3: I know you like to do your homework, and.

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Speaker 2: Let's get some homework on this Oklahoma State basketball team.

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What would you say is the identity of this Oklahoma

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State basketball team is as they're preparing to to meet

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the BYU Cougar basketball team.

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Speaker 5: Well, they want to play fast. They're fourteenth in the

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country and tempo, and that's important to them. They want

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to get out in the fast break and run. But

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once you get into conference play, that gets that gets

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limited to a large extent, or even shut down in

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some cases because you know, teams realize you want to

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run and they are not going to let you run.

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They have the ability to score in several different ways,

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whether it's Anthony Roy shooting threes he had twenty six

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the other night, or Parsafalla. Now, Parsa has been in

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a bit of a dip. You might remember him from

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Oregon State six' nine. Forward he was on a terrific

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run at the start of conference. Play, yeah, ever it's

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twenty points per game over a five game. Stretch that

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was the best run of scoring by A cowboy center

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he's had a bit of a. Dip but he's a key,

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TONIGHT i think for a number of. REASONS i, mean he,

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can he, can you, know he's just he's just been

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a little bit. OFF i don't think anybody's worried about,

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Him but if you think about the four GAMES byu has.

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damage you, Know kansas On, Saturday yukon back In, november

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and Obviously Texas, TECH. Jt top AND i don't even

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know what you call. Him he's he's a shoot, it

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go get. It he plays nerf. Hoop he just shoots

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it up there as quick as he, can and he

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goes and grabs it like he's playing on an old nerf.

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Hoop so you know he's important tonight BECAUSE i, think you,

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know Hopefully Oklahoma state can can get a big night from,

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him similar to what those other centers and power forwards have.

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Speaker 2: Done what do you think The cougar coaching staff is

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seeing on film of This Oklahoma state game right at

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the south of The Oklahoma state team right if they're

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projecting as the ortical Of state's going to.

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Speaker 3: Do what do you think they're scattered report of?

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Speaker 5: SAYING i think one thing that you know you've got

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to be. Aware you know you cannot Lose Anthony roy

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under any. CIRCUMSTANCE i, mean because he has UNLIMITED nba type.

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Range he's left. Handed that complicates things even. Further you

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have to say they are not getting out on the past,

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break absolutely. Not now what does that? Mean you know

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how many guys will Be why you send to the offensive?

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Glass that's always the magic in that. EQUATION a lot

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of teams that had sent four to the offensive glass

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on a regular basis did not do that Against Oklahoma.

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regularly sending four to the offensive glass when they Played Oklahoma.

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State most of the day they sent two and that

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was it because they had made the Decision Oklahoma state

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is not going to. Run so the interesting part of

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this to me will, be you, know by use a

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great rebounding. TEAM i, mean And saunders is a nightmare

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he can do on the offensive glass Against Oklahoma. State

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that's a little scary to. Me it's not just his,

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shooting but you know what he can do on the offensive.

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Glass but if you try to send four to the

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offensive glass and you don't get, it it's going the

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other way in a. Hurry So BYU's approach to that

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will be. Important and THEN i think FOR byu as,

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well how are The cowboys going to? Defend The cowboys

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took a very different defensive approach Against, utah in particular

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in the second, half when they really for the most

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part played the gaps as far as away from the.

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Ball was concerned something they have not done because they've

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had major struggles giving up straight line drives and consequently

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they've given up a ton of three point. Baskets so

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they made some changes to try to rectify, that and

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they Held utah to its worst three point shooting game

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of the. Year they went five for. Twenty SO i

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what exactly Will Oklahoma state do on.

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Speaker 2: Defense i've described The Big twelve as The universe or

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THE G league with university. Logos seeing all THESE g

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leaders come into The Big twelve makes, me, uh maybe

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rethink it because like it seems like all the all

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leaguers that are being brought. In But i'll stick to.

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It how would you describe? IT i mean your court,

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side you're watching, this how would you Describe big twelve

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Speaker 5: Play, well it's it's in the you, know the skill

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level is off the, charts but you, know right there

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hand in hand is the fact that it's a fistfight

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in this. LEAGUE i mean to, me, NOW i was

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talking to coach lets about. This the other, DAY i

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had a chance to Watch iowa And illinois in person

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At Iowa. City of, course The illinois, staff many of

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them were At Oklahoma state during Brand underwood's one season

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here and had chance to reconnect for some old friends

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while we were at Playing Iowa. State and WHAT i saw,

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was you, know The big twelve and The Big ten

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have sort of. Flipped you, know it used to be

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The Big ten with the, physical rough and tumble league

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with back to the basket centers and if you didn't

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have a seven foot or seven one guy that you,

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know wasn't capable of dominating a, game you couldn't. Compete

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but we, still you, know we have some of those

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guys now in The Big. Tulp it's not obviously a

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league full of, them but we have a lot more of.

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Foul in, fact if it's not a thirty year life sentence.

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to be. Hit and as one coaching friend of mine

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said years, ago the difference between a great player and

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an elite player is the ability to finish with contact.

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Coming you have to finish when you get, hit and

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in this, League Hugh darnwell better be able to do

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that or it's not going to be it's the outcome

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will not be, good.

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Speaker 2: Not good at. All, right talking SOME byu, Basketball Oklahoma

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state basketball here on Your YOUTAH Espn Radio network with

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the voice of The Oklahoma State, Cowboys David. Hunsinger and

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let's get into a little. Bit, hey how do you

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see this game playing out? Tonight what do you think?

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Happens i'm sure it'll be a competitive, one a close.

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One how do you feel playing?

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Speaker 4: Out you know it'll be.

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Speaker 5: Interesting this is a big game For Oklahoma state if

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they want to have a chance to make the nc doublea,

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tournament and they don't necessarily have to win, it they

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just have to be competitive because they've been blown out

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at home By baylor and By Iowa. State Iowa state

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you just need to have a good showing to show

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the committee, that, hey we are a capable. Team we

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can take the best in the country to the, wire

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may not, win but we can play them. Tough BECAUSE

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i think if you lose this game and get blown,

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out if You're Oklahoma, STATE i think YOUR NC doublea

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tournament chances are in enormous trouble because now you may

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have to pick up an extra win just to sort

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of prove to the committee that you're. Capable BUT i

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guard aj without just you can't put him on the,

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line and you've got to figure out a way to

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make his shots. Hard so you have to be able

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to close under control and make him just shoot over.

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You and that still may not work out very well

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Because Oklahoma state does not have anyone that is ideal

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to guard, Him so that's a complicating. Factor The cowboys

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are not super athletic by any means at the four

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and a five, position so that makes things a little

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bit more. Complex But Oklahoma state needs to find a

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way to get out on the fast break and get

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some easy. Baskets BUT i THINK byu leaves here with a,

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win and, probably to be, honest by double. DIGITS i

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just don't know if The cowboys can STOP byu and

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f to make it a tight. Game AND i think

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DEFENSIVELY byu does a really good job of defending without,

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fouling and The cowboys typically are a team that needs

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to get to the free throw line to.

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Speaker 2: Win you bring up a really good point about. Ajdbots

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he's looking for foul sometimes sometimes he gets. Them sometimes he,

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does and it seems like he hasn't been getting them

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in some of these high profile games them again into the,

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line maybe as much as he would deem a Fair

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how do you feel the the refs call games in

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The Big.

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Speaker 3: Twelve i'm not saying it's good or. Bad.

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Speaker 2: Right do they let guys play more often? Not is

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it a more physical physically allowance, conference you know WHAT

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i mean compared to other?

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Speaker 3: Conferences?

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Speaker 5: Oh, it it's changed. DRASTICALLY i, MEAN i mean it

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it's sort of trended this, direction but it's changed. DRASTICALLY

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i mean this year it is completely.

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Speaker 4: Different but it is.

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Speaker 5: CONSISTENT i, mean doesn't matter who you, are it's an

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equal opportunity beat the crap out of your. League but

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There vegas beat up and.

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Speaker 2: It's, funny, MAN i see the same. Thing it's, like

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you're not gonna get calls like. This we're just gonna

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beat the throat out of each. Other and then what's

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funny is you get into THE ncaa, tournament you actually

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may get some.

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Speaker 5: Calls see that concerns, me but you, know because it

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might change in THE ncublea. Tournament that is a bit

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of a worry because the league is so. Physical at

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the same, time the games can't go on too long

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in THE nc DOUBLE a tournament because it fouls up

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the television. Windows so you don't usually see a crazy

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amount of fouls called THE NC doublea tournament play just

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to keep the games from going on.

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Speaker 3: Forever, yeah, Yeah I'm.

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Speaker 2: I'M i think it's interesting that that this is such

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a physical league and even like that's so called star

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power free throw, opportunities they don't really come all that.

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Speaker 5: Often, no they. Don't and it's just it's just the

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way it, is and you just have to. Adjust and you,

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Know i'm if it's, Consistent i'm okay with. IT i,

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MEAN i don't like. It, yeah That i'm okay with.

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It the consistency is the. Thing and if everybody's going

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to foul the cred out of, people then you know,

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what JUST i, guess just let the fur, fly so to.

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Speaker 2: Speak i've had this debate with, friends with co, workers

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many people over the. Years i'm a football guy, myself

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BUT i do, love you, know physical basketball.

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Speaker 3: PLAYER i love what The big twelve does.

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Speaker 2: If you look at like how refs can determine games

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and disrupt games and disrupt.

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Speaker 3: Tempo you're a play by play.

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Speaker 2: Guy you call, games And i'm sure you enjoy all

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the sports that you, call but do you Enjoy collein

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football a little bit more because you, know refs can't

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determine outcomes as.

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Speaker 5: Much you, Know i'll be, HONEST I i'm my favorite

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time of year is conference. Basketball and it's not quite

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as fun as it used to be because when you

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played everybody twice then it was really fun because then

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it was, About, okay what's going to happen the second? Meeting,

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yeah the team that lost come up with as a,

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counter what does the team that won do to maybe

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counter the? Counter it's really fun and so you, know

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basketball is probably my favorite at your court, Side so

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it's a lot. EASIER i think basketball's tons easier to.

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Do and there's nothing like conference. PLAY i, mean there's

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nothing like a game here. Tonight Oklahoma state is trying

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to you, know climb its way and eke its way

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back in THE Ncaa tournament, contention AND byu has a

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legitimate chance to make The final, four and they have

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a guy that's projected to be the second pick in

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THE nba. DRAFT i, mean, shoot how much more do you?

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WANT i, MEAN i, mean that's as good as it.

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Gets and we're going to sit here courtside and watch.

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That and then we Have peterson rolling in here With

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kansas in a couple of.

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Speaker 4: WEEKS i, mean good.

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Speaker 5: Grief and then the monsters From, arizona The godzillas are

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The big. Twelve we got to deal with them In

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tucson On. SATURDAY i, mean what a privilege to see

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all these great teams and players and great. COACHES i,

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mean it's it's. Awesome nothing against. FOOTBALL i, MEAN i love,

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football but conference basketball is really hard to. Top for.

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Speaker 3: ME i love.

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Speaker 2: It, NO i can understand, it no doubt about. It

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like you said we were, talking, Rest i'm, like you,

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know what do you enjoy calling? More like you, know

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kind of watching more and you know commentating on there you,

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mentioned you, know being a play by play voice for.

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Football sometimes when you're the play by play base for,

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football you're kind of you're kind of high. Up you

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may be on the fifty yard, line but you maybe

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at a slight. Angle makes things a little bit interesting

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sometimes with the play by. Play what's like the perfect like, Level,

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like is it like thirtieth row? Up if you could

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ideally have you mentioned you were like court it's great

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because your court side colum. Basketball what's the ideal level

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if you could get there as a play by play

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voice for? Football top of the first?

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Speaker 5: Deck the height to be able to see everything you

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want to just see every too high or too far? Away,

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yeah you. Do and and Ours Honestly i'm, biased but

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ours is about perfect, heightwise it's perfect and so and

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our stands go straight up and they're close to the

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field so you're not far. Away makes it a lot easier,

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football you have to have a great supporting. Cast if

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you don't have a great supporting, cast it's really hard

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to do on your. Own you have to have great

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Supporters your analyst has to be really. Good your sideline

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guy has to be really good guy or. Gal your

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spot has to be, Terrific your engineer has to be.

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Terrific everybody has to operate on the same sheet of,

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music so to. Speak and we're fortunate we have a

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bunch of guys that have been together for a, while

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and everybody cares deeply about how the games, sound and

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so it makes my life tons. EASIER i don't have

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to worry about anything BECAUSE i know everybody will cover

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everybody up and will be in good.

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Speaker 2: Shape David, hunzager the voice of The Oklahoma State, cowboys

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TALKING Byu Oklahoma state tonight real quick before we let you, Go,

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david appreciate you hopping on and discussing these.

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Speaker 3: Topics.

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Speaker 2: Obviously tonight's matchup is the eleventh all time meeting between

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the two, schools including The cougar's fourth trip To Gallagher

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Eba arena In. Stillwater billy holds a six to four

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advantage in the, series including winning the past two, games

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both of them coming inside the friendly confines of The Marriott,

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center but second year head Coach Kevin young is one

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and oh against The cowboys after picking up an eighty

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five sixty nine victory in provo last. Season BUT i

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feel like This cowboys team is a little bit different

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than last, year's isn't?

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Speaker 6: It?

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Speaker 4: Oh it.

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Speaker 5: Is they can score the ball. More last year's team

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really had to force turnovers and get out in the

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fast break to, score and they could really labor to.

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Score this team shoots the ball so much better and

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can score at different levels in a variety of different.

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Ways so it's a totally different. Team, now last year's

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team was pretty good on. Defense this team has really struggled,

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defensively so it's sort of flip.

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Speaker 3: Flopped, Well, dave good luck on your.

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Speaker 2: Call for those that want to tune into it that

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are not that you, Needed, Dave you're a season.

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Speaker 3: Professional you know what you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing but for those that are making it out to Still,

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water they want to maybe tune into your, call how

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can they do?

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Speaker 5: It they can do it On you always listen on

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the Lear Field varsity app anywhere in the. World so

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if you're driving down the road and we're the Only

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big twelve game on and you're trying to stay awake some,

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night you can always download the Lear Field varsity app

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for free and you can listen. Anywhere of course we're

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on SERIOUS, xm but the varsity apps where you can

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always catches no matter where you are in the, world

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if you have access to the, internet you can LISTEN o.

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Game so if, again if you're traveling and you know

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you're your board some, night we're the only game going,

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on give us a.

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Speaker 2: Lesson love, It, David we soludally appreciate. You thanks so

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much for hopping on for a Little no the faux.

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Speaker 5: Segment oh you're, welcome happy to do.

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Speaker 2: It there you. Go That's david Hunts, aker voice of

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The Oklahoma State cowboys B Yu Oklahoma state a big one.

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Tonight ba's got to get on the right, track get

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back to their winning. Ways they're on the. Road it'll

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be a formidable. Foe they are, favored but it's not like,

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there you. KNOW i, mean, Look david said that he's

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expecting maybe even a double digit win for The cougars

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because of the maybe the firepower that The cougar basketball.

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Speaker 3: Team is bringing in to Still.

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Speaker 2: Water BUT espn analytics giving B yus seventy six point

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seven percent chance of. Victory the spread opened at five

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and a half in favor of the cougs now sits

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at seven and a half so over. Under the total

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is one sixty seven and a half so of firepower

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heading in, there and they're expecting a high, flight high

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scoring event.

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Speaker 3: There uh in still.

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Speaker 2: Water So ronald the three Man, WEAVER i know you're

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you're still suffering from The corona. Flu that's WHAT i call.

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It at least there's a you, KNOW i don't know

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if did you get, Diagnosed do you get? Diagnosed what

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type of sickness this thing?

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Speaker 7: Is it's just a normal, flu you. Know but and

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look it's probably somewhere WITH. Covid there's a new strand

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every like six, months all these all these, strains, Right,

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LOOK i don't look at the it's like the lost

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sub section sixty FIVE, abz LIKE i, said something that's

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added into it every. Year but, yeah, NO i got

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the normal stuff that's going. Around will fight through, it,

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right you, know three four days and hopefully be back at.

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Speaker 3: It nice, Man, well let's give our score. Predictions what

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do you?

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Speaker 2: SAY i know this this game is an intriguing one to.

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You Richie, saunders coming off thirty three points in the last,

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game you wonder if The Todd king will still be getting.

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BUCKETS aj struggle a little. Bit he's getting doubled a lot,

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though which stymied his. Production we hope to see him

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get back to that twenty three twenty four to twenty

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five points per.

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Speaker 3: Game type of.

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Speaker 2: Output and Then Rob right the, third also looking to

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get back to his distribution and scoring.

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Speaker 3: Ways hope to see.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Dominicque dilmande coming off the. Bench maybe he'll get

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an opportunity versus the Cal polks. Tonight give me a

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little score. Prediction how do you see this game play?

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Out ronald the three Man? Weaver, YEAH i.

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Speaker 7: Think all the big three been get in the. Twenties

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If i'm gonna be, HONEST i know that people might

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think that sounds. CRAZY i just think with how The cowboys,

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struggle you heard it From, Dave they flip. Flop they're

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way better on. OFFENSE i do predict the game, this you,

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know in in that FOR ba you will be in the.

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SEVENTIES i would like to SEE ba you have a

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double digit. Win ben on the, road you, know AND

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i Know Oklahoma state might not be the most formidable,

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point but according to the rankings and the net, ranks

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it'd be a quad one. Win they're sixty seventh in the,

471
00:21:54,039 --> 00:21:54,519
net so this.

472
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: Be a good.

473
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 7: Win it wouldn't be the best, win but you gotta

474
00:21:57,279 --> 00:21:59,480
start look to him much as, given much as required

475
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,160
to go. SPIRIT i can't give you a big, Thing,

476
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,039
ben same thing you taught me on the. SHOW i

477
00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,119
can't give you a big task UNTIL i trust you

478
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,720
with the little.

479
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: Task so this is a little.

480
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,079
Speaker 7: Task and WHAT i mean is they're not An. Arizona

481
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,799
they're not a obviously At, kansas but they are still

482
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,640
up there in the big. Twelve so you start tonight

483
00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:16,200
getting back on track going seven and, three which is

484
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,160
WHAT i believe they'll. DO i think running the ball

485
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,200
Through richie and fring up aj is what you need to,

486
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,480
do because If richie's hitting shots that ALLOW ajs to

487
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,680
go one on, One oklahoma still likes to play man,

488
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,680
anyway they will. Switch they don't like to do. It

489
00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:31,240
they'll follow you a. Lot SO i think that boats

490
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,880
well For byu And man And. Man and THEN i

491
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,799
Think Dominique, diamanda if he gets Inserted, BEN i think

492
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,559
he just needs to like light it up defensively and

493
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,640
be all over the boards. GLASS i don't even care

494
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,240
if he's, Fouling, ben just his impact of like it's

495
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:45,640
not going, away and you would like to See kiba two.

496
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,319
beIN i think the big issue is we haven't Seen

497
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,759
kiba have one of his big. Games you would like

498
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,039
to see him have an impact like An Iowa state

499
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:54,480
not a career performance like. That but you like to

500
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,359
see eight eight defensive, rebounds six. Offensive but you'd like

501
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,359
to see something like. That BUT i agree on a

502
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,880
scout on, report do not send forth to the offensive

503
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,640
glass because if you, Miss Oklahoma state has gone the other.

504
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:05,839
Speaker 2: Way.

505
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,759
Speaker 7: Ben and if you let them get, going this is

506
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:09,759
The Big. Twelve anybody can win on any given night

507
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,839
you're on the. Road if you allow The cowboys to hit,

508
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,400
threes it's. Over so But i'm Taking byu. Out i'll

509
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680
go seventy, Seven i'll go sixty. FIVE i Think bill

510
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,880
he wants by. Twelve AND i think the big the

511
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,480
break three show up and show, out AND i think

512
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:23,759
we'll see a sign of Dominique Dia.

513
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,279
Speaker 2: Monday, yeah triple. Combination let's. Go The cowboys are twelve

514
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,079
and two in home. Games by the, Way Oklahoma state

515
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,400
is fourth in The Big twelve score in scoring eighty

516
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480
five point nine points per game, well shooting forty seven

517
00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:35,920
point four percent from the. Field they could get, hot

518
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,759
they could get Up lustrey there in Still. Water The

519
00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,079
cougar's have gone five and three Against big twelve, opponents

520
00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:43,559
averaging eighty six point four points per game and have

521
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,200
outscored their opponents by fourteen points six points per. Game

522
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,799
hopefully they do that. Tonight the Matchup wednesday is the

523
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:51,880
first meeting of the season for the two, teams, obviously

524
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,400
And Anthony roy is the guy that you need to

525
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960
know if you're A Byu cougar, fan shooting forty four

526
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,079
point four percent from beyond the arc with three v

527
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:04,400
point three made three pointers per game for the Cal

528
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,240
polks while averaging seventeen point five points per. Game parcelfala

529
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,839
is shooting fifty three point eight percent from the field

530
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,519
and averaging thirteen point three points over the past ten.

531
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720
Games Hopefully Rob, right the third AS i, mentioned who's

532
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,839
averaging seventeen and a half points per game five point

533
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,640
two assists for The, cougars has a fantastic showing. Tonight

534
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,480
aj averaging twenty five points seven points per game over

535
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,480
the last ten, games by the, way and he had

536
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,799
a little bit of a dip in some of these

537
00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:32,519
more formidable. Games AND i remember he had that forty

538
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240
burger Versus, utah which was. Great hopefully he can tap

539
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:40,200
into that potential and that type of. Productivity so, yeah more.

540
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,799
PRETTY i feel like bole who gets back on the right.

541
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,519
TRACK i think they get into the eighties similar to

542
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,039
like their averages that we've been seeing thus far this.

543
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,839
Season that's kind of How i'm feeling about. This uh

544
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,880
so uh This cougar basketball team getting into the mid

545
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,039
EIGHTIES i think is the.

546
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:58,319
Speaker 3: Goal first.

547
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,799
Speaker 2: HALF i don't know IF i feel like this first

548
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,319
half is going to be better because there was so

549
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,400
much criticism like whenever K, why like like k why

550
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,920
went to the what went to in front of the

551
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,119
media and, Said i'm gonna throw up Or i'm gonna

552
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960
be sick IF i have to like talk about how

553
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,319
good we are in the second. Half LIKE i feel

554
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,839
like there's something gonna change this game first. Half, defense

555
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,440
maybe better shot selection in the first, half and maybe

556
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,559
they're getting to the. Rim maybe they're they're attacking the

557
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,519
rim and trying to get to the foul. Line like

558
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,319
What i've said before is LIKE aj should be trying

559
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,480
to get to the rim very early. On if he,

560
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,000
can't you, know you're you, know because he's. Doubled you,

561
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,599
Know let's get him on the move a little, bit

562
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,039
get him some different shots that he hasn't been getting

563
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,440
within the the half court sets that we've been. Employing

564
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,160
too much isoball too MUCH nba. Schematics you can like,

565
00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:49,359
like let's let's we can do that. Stuff, yes but

566
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:53,839
like in spurts or maybe you know in, uh you,

567
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,359
know just uh in in in minimum. Consumption let's play

568
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359
great team. Basketball let's. Go let's play great team, basketball

569
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:06,680
play great, defense and have proper, good judicious shots selection

570
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,240
in the first half of oklhom. Sta if we do,

571
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,119
that all will be, well all will be. Well i'm

572
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,119
gonna say eighty five to seventy B yu gets the

573
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720
fifteen point victory on the, road a quad one.

574
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: Win let's go to Break Cougar. Nation don't go anywhere.

575
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,759
Speaker 2: More to get to is always here on Your UTAH

576
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579
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,559
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580
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college basketball On Cougar sports With Ben.

581
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Speaker 3: Discounts let's get out to the. Hotline welcome.

607
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: In Ken pomroy Representing kenpalm dot, com the man of

608
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
metrics regarding college basketball can how the heck are?

609
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,599
Speaker 6: You?

610
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: Hey ben's doing, great doing. Great thanks having me.

611
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: On always a, pleasure always a. Blessing talking some ball with,

612
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,039
you B yu. Basketball let's start off with These Ken

613
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:15,720
bob favors B yu and nine of their last. Ten

614
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:19,000
IF byu goes nine and one in their last ten,

615
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,960
games what type of seeding do you think they could

616
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,799
get in THE ncaa tournament.

617
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: They go to nine and, one though they're looking at you,

618
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:33,599
know probably. Two, yeah it'd be an incredible. Ryn it should.

619
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,519
Be it should be. Noted and even though And i'm

620
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,880
looking at it right, Now i'm favored in eight of

621
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,960
their last, ten but.

622
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,079
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, okay SO i thought it was nine out

623
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:44,839
of their last. Ten it was about a couple of days.

624
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440
Ago now it's eight out their last ten that their, Favorite.

625
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah The Iowa, State, yeah The iOS state game flipped

626
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,160
to AN. L but the POINT i want to make

627
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,160
is that many of those wins are by small, margins

628
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,440
and actually, collectively when you count for the, PROBABILITY i

629
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,920
have them going what six and four down the, stretch

630
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,319
so you, know probably a more realistic expectation of what

631
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,079
the future holds.

632
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:11,559
Speaker 3: Here so six and?

633
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: Four is there more realistic expectation in these last ten?

634
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,799
Speaker 3: Games?

635
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:17,599
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean you just don't you know you're not

636
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240
gonna win every game you're you're favored, by, right especially

637
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,240
when you're only favored by you, know, two, three four

638
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,640
points in some. Cases so so you know they'll be

639
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,960
potentially favored in eight or, Ten but the most likely

640
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:30,799
record is winning six out of.

641
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Ten if they win six out of, ten what type

642
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,079
of seeding do you think they get in that?

643
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,759
Speaker 4: Case? Probably you, know you're probably looking get a four Out, Therefore.

644
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah there's no Chang do you think there's a chance

645
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,720
that this team ends up being a five CEED ncaa?

646
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:48,799
Tournament is there a world in which that could? Happen

647
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:49,799
Because i'm dreading that.

648
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: DAY i mean it's. Possible, YEAH i mean it's certainly, like,

649
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,920
yeah they you, KNOW i mean there aren't there an't

650
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,079
any gimmes on them this schedule down the, stretch so you,

651
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:04,279
know it's certainly. Possible But i'm curious why you're why

652
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:05,119
you're dreading that.

653
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: WELL i just feel like the five, TWELVES i just

654
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:09,799
don't feel good about.

655
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:13,039
Speaker 3: It this is the reason. Why and you could probably

656
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,000
pull up some of this data.

657
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,599
Speaker 2: Too but B yu has gone to THE ncaa tournament

658
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640
more than any other team without seeing a final.

659
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: Four the only way they get to a final four this.

660
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:21,799
Year they have great.

661
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: TALENT i don't, KNOW i don't know if they'll do,

662
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,720
it but they got to get a proper.

663
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: Seeding that's the only way they survive in.

664
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: ADVANCE i, mean it certainly would, help no, question it

665
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920
would help to you, know get a, four get a.

666
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,599
Three you, know you get that three. Seed now you're

667
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,680
playing you, know it's a low major team that won

668
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680
their conference tournament or something like. That so at least

669
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,039
you have a you, know a game in the first

670
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,559
round with a large margin for. Air you don't have

671
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,160
to play your best and you should win that, game

672
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,519
so that certainly would, help but there's nothing that says

673
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,759
they can't get out of there with a five seed as.

674
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:58,960
WELL i, Mean San Diego state made we made the

675
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:05,160
title game twenty three with the five, seeds so it's slowly.

676
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,079
Possible BUT i think it's mainly it's less the seed

677
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,119
and more just like how you got to that. Seed you,

678
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,880
know they're gonna end up with a five seeds and

679
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,680
they're probably going something like five and five down the,

680
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,519
stratch which.

681
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:16,839
Speaker 5: You, know that's just that in The south of abode

682
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:19,079
well for trying to get to a final. Four you,

683
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,079
know you end up with that three, seed you're gonna

684
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:24,359
play some some pretty good ball down the, stratch and you,

685
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,599
know regardless of what The Sea lion says like, it

686
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,920
you'll kind of approven that you're A final four.

687
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: Contender Ken, uh did you by chance catch the? Look

688
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:39,160
let me preface. IT i Love Ken, POM i lean

689
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:45,079
On Kin. POM i bracket. MYSELF i utilize my my

690
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,799
my kN palm analytics to to get the best bracket

691
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:49,119
amongst my friends and family.

692
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,319
Speaker 3: MEMBERS i believe In ken Pom.

693
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Uh Doug gottlieb apparently does not believe In Ken palm Roy.

694
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Metrics did you get the did you? Did have you

695
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:02,359
heard this this tirade that he went off on regarding your.

696
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: ANALYTICS i, YES i many many people have brought it

697
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,359
to my, attention and, uh you, know it's kind of

698
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,279
a badge of. HONOR i mean he starts off the WHOLE.

699
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,559
Ti first of, all the question that was active him

700
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,680
had nothing to do with. Me so it's, like, yeah

701
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,400
he wants to launch this this tirade anyway he, could

702
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,599
and then he like he prefaces. It i'd, say, yeah

703
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,599
here's a here's a viral sound, bite and you know

704
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440
he was, right like he created A u creat a

705
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,079
viral sound bite using my, Name SO i got in some, ways, it's,

706
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,039
uh you, know kind of a badge of honor THAT

707
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:34,160
i could be on the receiving into.

708
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: That.

709
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean like when you hear, critics, right obviously

710
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,400
your metric stands at the test of time in my, opinion,

711
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200
uh and it continues to get. Better but when you

712
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240
hear critics say, things what is? It what are they

713
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,000
tried to Poke? Colson what are they? Saying why are

714
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:49,640
they critiquing?

715
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: It i'm not really Sure In doug's. CASE i mean, it's,

716
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:59,400
uh you, know people can go listen to is his

717
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,519
speel Of it's like four minutes. LONG i, MEAN i

718
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,839
really don't recommend, it but but.

719
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:05,359
Speaker 2: It's all over the.

720
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,799
Speaker 4: Place it's like he's. Criticizing you, know there's teams in

721
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,400
his league that played really tough non conference schedules and

722
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,440
apparently my system like overvalues. That but then there's also

723
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,839
teams Like, Miami ohio who played week non conference schedules

724
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880
and apparently might just overvaluees. That and so my system

725
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:29,440
it seems like just overvalues everything that Theug otley's Team

726
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,519
Green bay does not. Do you. Know so, ANYWAY i

727
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:40,759
don't know Why doug is so concerned about his standing

728
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,519
in my. RATINGS i, mean they say are ranked two

729
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,400
thirty ninth as of right, now so maybe Maybe i'm underrating.

730
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Them maybe they're like one ninety fourth or something in real.

731
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,319
LIFE i don't, know but they're a five hundred team

732
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,680
in The Horizons, league so that's where where they are.

733
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: There, yeah it was just he's just ticked off at the.

734
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: World.

735
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:03,319
Speaker 2: Man that's you, know, snarky you, know competitive and uh you,

736
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:03,880
know a little bit.

737
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Petty maybe that's the reason.

738
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: Why but you, know this This big twelve conference right,

739
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,760
now let's talk about the best basketball conference in basketball

740
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,599
conferences right now in college? Basketball is That big twelve the,

741
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,280
best would you? Say or is it The Big?

742
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,679
Speaker 4: Ten all, right, well here we. Go this is this

743
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480
is a little bit of a thorny. Issue but, uh you,

744
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,480
KNOW i do have conference ratings on my, site and

745
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,079
SO i you, KNOW i RATE i rate the conferences

746
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,000
by basically how good you have to be to go five,

747
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,280
hundred which people might think that's not usefuler or, whatever

748
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,239
but it does kind of value the entire. League and

749
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,239
in that, case THE sec still raises the number one,

750
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,559
league mainly because the bottom of the league is so,

751
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,280
Strong like obviously the top of the league is not

752
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,280
as strong as it as it was last, year although you,

753
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,440
know you Have, florida who IS i think rapidly advancing

754
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,760
into a national title and tender. Consideration but on that,

755
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,719
basis THE sec is number. One you, know if you're

756
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,039
looking at at the top of the of the. Leagues,

757
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,719
yeah it's certainly like a close call between The big

758
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,880
twelve and The Big. Ten might your flight edge to

759
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,440
The Big twelve, there although you, know The Big ten

760
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,840
has a case as. Well it's hard to you, know

761
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,199
it's really, subjective but, yeah in terms of the top,

762
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,880
end in terms of the number of, bids, like, yeah

763
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,400
those two leagues figure to have most of the storylines

764
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,880
when we get The.

765
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,599
Speaker 2: March, yeah it's it's always, intriguing, Right like we're getting

766
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:30,199
down the stretch, Here we're we're not too far away

767
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,440
From march. Madness some people believe it's the most wonderful

768
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,760
time of the. Year, Uh and, look we love it

769
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,079
here AT esp and the fan and it's it's remarkable to,

770
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,719
watch you, know The cinderella.

771
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,639
Speaker 3: Stories what's your way too Early.

772
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Cinderella you, know like if you were to look at

773
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,280
a team right now that's maybe trending in the right

774
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,519
direction or could trend in the right direction to based

775
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:55,920
off of the analytics that you're aware, of you, know

776
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,159
who could be a Potential cinderella story this?

777
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: Year do you?

778
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: Think, YEAH i mean the you, know it depends that

779
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:07,039
we frame you, Know cinderella right now in this modern.

780
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,800
Era they're obviously the mid Major cinderella has not gone,

781
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,519
extinct but it certainly head in that. Direction but there

782
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,280
is one team in that realm THAT i think stands

783
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,400
out and that Is Saint. Louis Saint Louis, billikens who

784
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,679
have lost one game this, year and it was on

785
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,039
one of the most unbelievable endings you'll. See Saint louis

786
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:36,280
foul filed up three sort of traditional you, know coaching,

787
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,239
methodology And stanford missed their, second made their, first miss

788
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,039
their second and hit a three off the rebound and

789
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,559
won the game in. Regulation and that that Was Saint

790
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:50,320
louis's only. Lost But Josh, shurson coach At Saint, louis you,

791
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,519
know he's probably in line for A i made your

792
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:57,199
job after this. Season just runs a beautiful. Offense people

793
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,320
may may remember the Name Robbie, avula who who played

794
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,840
with shirts In Indiana state and where's the the goggles

795
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,559
on the, court and not necessarily the most toned and

796
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:14,079
athletic body you'll see out, there but very effective offensive.

797
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,920
Player it's just it's a really good and beat team

798
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,679
and actually leads the country in defensive effective field goal

799
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,039
percentage in the second in the country and offensive effective

800
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,800
field goal. Percentage so they're doing things right on both

801
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,920
ends of the. Court not necessarily you, know playing the

802
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,880
schedule that the high majors. Play but you, know like

803
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,639
tends a pretty solid, league And Saint louis gets into the,

804
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,880
tournament you know they'll certainly be that team that people lock.

805
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,360
Onto is a, potential you, know old school mid Major.

806
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: Cinderella one of the METRICS i was looking at WHEN

807
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,960
i was pulling up SOME byu stuff, today blu's.

808
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: Luck rating not too.

809
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: GOOD i think they're right two hundred right. Now explain

810
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,800
the luck rating to our listeners and why B yu

811
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,199
hasn't been so lucky this.

812
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 4: Year, yeah the luckrating just look at close game. Performance

813
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,880
so the theory is, that you, know teams don't have

814
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,360
a lot of control of their, outcomes and close games

815
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,119
certathing less control and close game outcomes they. Do and you,

816
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:19,800
know games that are blowouts for for obvious. Reasons and

817
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:25,079
so if you win a lot of close, games you

818
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:26,679
go up in the luck, grating and if you lose

819
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,199
a lot of close, games you go down on the luck.

820
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,639
Rating but peowas kind of in the. Middle you, know

821
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,679
the middle Of division one is about one, eightieth so

822
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,360
two hundredth and it's pretty average when it comes right

823
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880
down to. It but you, know basically just you, know

824
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960
b like just won some close. Games they lost in close.

825
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:47,440
Games they haven't shown any particular direction or trend in that.

826
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,920
Area and it's not to say that like teams don't

827
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,400
have skill in close games at, all but that skill

828
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,320
is very. Limited you, know you present a team with

829
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920
ten consecutive one possession, games even the best team In,

830
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,239
land and you're only gonna win six or seven of those.

831
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,079
GAMES i should only win six or seven of the. Games,

832
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,599
obviously they can get lucky and win, ten or they

833
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:10,519
can get unlucky and win. Three but, yeah that's basically

834
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:11,440
the idea behind the luck.

835
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Rating, Kenpomerly kenpalm dot com getting prep getting ready for

836
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,400
SOME bayu BASKETBALL. Bo you're taking On Oklahoma state and

837
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,800
as you, mentioned you know they are favored in eight

838
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,719
of their last ten. Games and you're looking at the

839
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,960
four potential big. Losses, right these are high Level big twelve.

840
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,280
TEAMS i don't think a loss comes, tonight but let's

841
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:39,079
look at those four potential losses if we. Could in

842
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,199
the back end of This big twelve. Schedule Obviously Texas

843
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:50,239
TECH i stayed amongst them at Yule. A is. There you,

844
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,360
know when you look at these, games what do you

845
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,559
see and what do you see from these teams that

846
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,159
make them just so good comparative to B.

847
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,599
Speaker 4: Yu, well, YEAH i mean we're looking at like the

848
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,840
games you have. Lost it's, uh you, know the story

849
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,400
has really been you, know, defensively like, offensively they've been just.

850
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,239
Fine in, fact, uh you, know the last two games

851
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,239
they've put up really in terms of points for, possession

852
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,679
some of the best performances against Both arizona And kansas

853
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,800
that those teams have seen all. Year, uh you should win.

854
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,480
That you should win those. GAMES i, mean not put

855
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:26,920
it anymore, plainly but you, know when you're scoring as

856
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,880
many points, that you, know in terms of points for

857
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,760
possession as the teams have seen all, Year, like you,

858
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,440
know you don't need to play great defensive when those,

859
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840
games if you you hasn't quite on the defensive end

860
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,360
to interior defense risen to the to the call on that.

861
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,920
One but but that's you, know that's kind of been

862
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,840
the story, lately and, uh you, know probably the story

863
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,679
the rest of the. Year like you, know we can

864
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,039
talk about you, know maybe a J De bonds are,

865
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,320
struggling you, know Against kansas or, whatever they really did

866
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,119
a great jobs shutting him, down and you're gonna see,

867
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:59,280
that you know more as the year goes. On sponsors

868
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,119
numbers suffered a little bit In big twelve, play but

869
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:05,400
nonetheless that is still cranking along at a at a

870
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,519
pretty good rate and really not the. Issue it's really

871
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,039
can this team defend against some of these better teams

872
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:14,159
down the. Stretch that's going to, be you, know that's

873
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,639
going to make the difference between you, know getting that

874
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:18,239
three seed or getting that five.

875
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,079
Speaker 2: Seeds why is B yu bad in the first? Half

876
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,119
is it just all defensive? Related is that what's? Happening,

877
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,000
yeah that's a good.

878
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:30,119
Speaker 4: Question you, Know i've Seen i've seen people try to

879
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,960
ascribe some meaning to, this AND i don't know. That you,

880
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
KNOW i did that. Myself you know it certainly early

881
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:41,199
in the season it felt like they were relying so

882
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,599
much On aja that you, know maybe it was just,

883
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:47,880
like you, know you're Not you're not trying as hard

884
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,679
in the first. Half you're not going all out in

885
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,079
the first half because the offense runs so much THROUGH

886
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,199
aj in the second half that you, know you just

887
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400
you do have to pace yourself a little, bit But

888
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,400
i'm Not it's kind of gone On i'm not really

889
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,760
sure that's the. Case they haven't been relying ON aj as.

890
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,920
Much certainly in The kansas game they.

891
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: Didn't.

892
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,519
Speaker 4: SO i don't. Know, yeah you, KNOW i think everybody

893
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,920
wants to describe some deep meaning, here but to, me

894
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:19,000
it's just sort of just a bunch of of. Randomness

895
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,639
we'll see what happens down the. Stretch but obviously it

896
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:26,320
doesn't Serve dyul to dig these big. Holes but also

897
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,199
they know going into the game it doesn't serve them,

898
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:30,880
well and so you, know they're NOT i don't think

899
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
they're doing this obviously not doing it on. Purpose and to,

900
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,559
me it's just like they just didn't dictimize a little

901
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,840
bit by, yeah starting, slow the other team starts, pass

902
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:45,280
but it's probably more dumb bad luck and than anything.

903
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Else they got one of the best tri efectives in college,

904
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,920
basketball no doubt about, THAT aj And ritchie And. Rob

905
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,400
what they don't have is a productive. Bench they don't

906
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,199
have productive you, know ancillary auxiliary. Player campu has been

907
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,920
solid doing what he, does but uh, uh you, know

908
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,960
you wonder who's gonna step. Up there's been buzz that

909
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:13,880
Maybe alexi could Or Dominique diomande or, uh maybe A Tyler.

910
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,079
Marage they got to find somebody off the. Bench who

911
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:18,320
could it, be do you, Think.

912
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't.

913
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: Know it's pretty late in the year too uh to

914
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,960
find you, know somebody who's gonna be an obvious fourth.

915
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,159
Option but you, know it's somewhat of an. Issue but

916
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:33,159
LIKE i, said like the offense has been pretty, Good like,

917
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,960
yeah we, can we can criticize it and clearly like,

918
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,039
yeah there's a lack of depth, there like they rely

919
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,400
a lot on on three, guys and you, know if

920
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,760
something were to happen to any of those three guys help,

921
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,679
wise like you're going to have a serious. Issue but

922
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:55,960
assuming that doesn't, Happen i'm not too too concerned, about,

923
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,159
uh you, know needing that fourth option. NECESSARILY i mean

924
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,679
those three guys are are really, good and they compliment

925
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,920
each other pretty, Well like there's not a lot of

926
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,079
like duplication of skill, there like they all do things

927
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:13,119
a little bit. Differently and you know it's like to,

928
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:17,360
me you need you need like Kaya cata like focused

929
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,000
on the defensive, end SO i don't need him getting

930
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,840
too involved, Offensively like he's going to expend most of

931
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,159
his energy on the defensive end defending the. Rim that's you.

932
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: Know a.

933
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: Positive so uh, so, YEAH i don't think you're going

934
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,719
to necessarily see a fourth option suddenly developed at this

935
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point the. Season BUT i also don't think it's a real.

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Issue like the offense is humming pretty, good and it's

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huming on nights when even When aj is not you,

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know playing great or Or Richie Sautner's Rob wright is

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is not you, know necessarily contributing up to their match like,

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it it just finds a way to. Work so like to,

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me the the offense for for all the things we

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could complain, about has been really really, Solid.

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Speaker 3: Ken Bomb, ROY i salute. YOU i appreciate.

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Speaker 1: K this is a one oh, three nine and ninety

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Speaker 8: Updates we start off with, basketball where Both delane And

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gibb And Richie saunders were named to their Respective top

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Ten Shooting guards of The year award, finalists And Ute

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bonsa was also named as A top ten Small forward

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of The year final De. Bonsa saunders and the men's

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seen tip off tonight and Still, Water oklahoma against The

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cowboys Of Oklahoma state and A quad one, opportunity While

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gibb and the women's team had The kansas to face

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The jayhawks looking for the program's first win Over kansas.

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Yesterday klone's take and now four more hires to his

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staff that include the following. Men the biggest name Was Tyra,

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hughes who was hired as the new assistant quarterbacks, coach

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Replacing Matt mitchell who left to join The Colorado state coaching.

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Staff he was as a member of the church who

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was born In. Utah in twenty, twenty he made the

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jump from the coaching staff Of Bountiful High school to THE,

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nfl where he was an assistant coach on The New England.

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Patriots after three years with The, pats he was on

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the staff at The university Of washington during their championship

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run in twenty twenty. Three he quickly went back to The,

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patriots where in twenty twenty four he was their wife receivers.

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Coach after a quick pit stop on The alabama coaching

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staff last, Year hughes transitions TO byu where he brings

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a load of experience To Aaron rodgers' offensive. Staff Raylan

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singleton was hired to Assist Bessei sataki as an assistant

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wide receivers. Coach Tyas moe is an assistant linebackers. Coach

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Dylan allman Aiding Justin enna as an assistant special teams.

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Coach all three of those hired are promotion from within the.

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Staff DATA Doa Football team announced eight editions from past signing.

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Classes Linebacker Owen, borg tight End Matthew, frederick Linebacker Blake,

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low wide Receiver Jet, nelson offensive Lineman Tweedy, putatao defensive

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End Adney, reid defensive Tackle david Tong, yulanu and Quarterback Enick.

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Watson all eight of these players are returning from. Mission

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special teams Coordinator Justin enna also told media today the

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Kicker Brody laga is expected to join the team In

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april when he returns from his. Mission I'm Cameron clark

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