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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to That's Not Metal and welcome

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to another edition here of Hyperblast. This is your weekly

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rock and metal show where we let you know everything's

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been going on in the past seven days. My name

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is Parrin Haiish. I'm here to do all that with

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you at this exact moment. I am here on my

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own doing the deed of I'm gonna let you know

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what again, the releases and so on, and that we've

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got coming up as well, let you know what we've

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got cooking here in tnm land. Relievingly after last week

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and everything that had to be said about Bob Villain

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and Glastonbury and Radar and all the rest of it,

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let alone Dennis stuff. There's not really been much news

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this week, aside from obviously everybody's been talking about the

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Black Sabbath back to the beginning show. Lots of people

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watched it, and there's been lots of conversation continuing in

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the aftermath of it, as I guess you would expect

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for such a huge hyped event. As well, I'm recording

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this a day earlier than usual as well, so next

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week we'll have a proper new segment with anything that happens.

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But I did earlier in the week when we had

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the chance sit down with Sam and Elliott to talk

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about our impressions of the Black Sabbath event of again

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just what we kind of observed took in by osmosis

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ha ha around that, and actual in person reports as

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well from the two of them about the two Slayer

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shows that they did in the UK around their appearance

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at the Sabbath show. So I'm gonna hand over to

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past me and I'm gonna put that chat here. Okay,

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So I've got Sam and Elliott here and we are

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gonna round off what we have regularly basically every single

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week on a hyperbastm the new show termed the busiest

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summer on record in the UK for not just shows

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because show's always happened, but big event shows, right, And

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obviously the buck doesn't stop here. There are more things coming. Sam,

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You're off the two thousand Trees very soon, and you know,

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the usual summer events occur, But that little period that

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we have been talking about did feel like it was

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building to essentially the Mammoth occasion, which is what collectively

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I suppose we could say has happened this past weekend

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with most obviously the Black Sabbath Back to the Beginning show,

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but also some bands who are around and involved with

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that show, most notably Slayer and some of the bands

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who went along with them also making appearances in the UK.

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And so we're going to round off that little period

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right now, the Black Sabbath Back to the Beginning show. Unfortunately,

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none of us were actually at in We were not

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in the you know, the Villa Park Stadium in Birmingham.

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I know people who were. I know obviously anyone who

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wants to look like there anyone was going to Villa

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Park and watching that show. But I think everyone on

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the internet has you know, been involved with that show

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to some degree or another. Maybe they watched the entire

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you know stream that you could pay for. Maybe it's

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just by osmosis absorbing every clip that they can find

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of what obviously, as we knew it would be, but

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certainly turned out to be a enormous, star studded, highlight

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a minute sort of occasion. And so while we're not

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gonna give it a full show review because none of

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us are actually there, it was obviously the biggest event

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in rock music this year, so we could just sort

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of talk about roughly what we felt and emanating towards

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us as people who weren't actually attending, but what the

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vibes were like and what impressions we got from it. Elliott,

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you were probably the best equipped to it is because

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you did actually watch the entire like stream you know

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that you could pay to do. I didn't do that

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because I mainly I didn't want to pay twenty five

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pounds for Sharon Osborne to show me David Draymond. But

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you know you I understand as part of a big

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family they get together, which would absolutely be the way

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to do it. Did watch the entire ten eleven hour

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whatever it turned out to be, just roughly vibes in

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terms of again what we've heard from people who were there,

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and you know, what we've absorbed through the Internet and

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so on. The momentousness of the occasion and certainly the

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cynicism that was maybe around it when it was announced,

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I do feel like has largely dissipated into the general

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like joyous after glow of what a particular event like

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that is. And that's again, there are pros, there are

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cons to every bit along the way of what this

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event might be, but that is the general vibe that

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Speaker 2: Do you share that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I to be honest, I had no

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truck for this cynicism when it came out the first time,

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when people saying like they've already retired, it's you know,

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it's money fleecing, it's a cash grab. They're just trying

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to milk the fans and they think you're stupid or

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whatever is I always found that a slightly, to be honest,

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a slightly miserable point view, because to take away the

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whole aspect of it being for charity, which is a

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major thing to take away when you look at just

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how much money for totally deserving charities that this event

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has raised, even just in the live stream numbers like

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the estimates of like one hundred and forty to one

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hundred and sixty million quid, It's like, that's that's an

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incredible contribution. But even discounting that, if we need to do,

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that is just one of the most spectacular things that's

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ever happened in heavy metal. And I think if you

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like Black Sabbath and you like Ozzy Osbourne, which if

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you like heavy metal, you'll most certainly do, this is

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the kind of event that would feel befitting of that,

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because Sabbath did a big farewell tour the first time

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or the third time, and it was cool, like people

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saw it, it was popular. People seem to think they

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want good form, especially at the last show, but I

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don't know that. It's kind of hard to come up

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with a thing that of appropriate size for band like

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Sabbath with their reach, and then Ozzie, you know, having

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his thoughts canceled time and time again, becoming more and

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more unwell, and then just kind of having to quietly

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retire a guy with that career that doesn't seem like

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the appropriate send off either. So getting to almost correct

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those two things, where it's the original Sabbath lineup playing

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together for the last time, Ozzie getting one last show,

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and it being a true spectacle that's appropriate to his

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size and his influence, and pretty much who's who of

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metal bands who are available to play it, getting all

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them to come and putting their egos aside. Playing the hits,

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playing the Sabbath cover is paying tribute. It's just I

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can't get myself in the headspace of someone who isn't

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thrilled by that or doesn't think this is a wholly

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brilliant moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, particularly when you think about what clearly

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visually meant to Ozzie right. Of yeah, as you say, like,

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he hasn't been on stage in what like six years

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or something like that, and he's clearly not going to

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get out on stage for extended tours or anything like that. Ever, again,

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you know, those days are are gone. He clearly wanted

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an opportunity to bowl, right and to see you know,

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the fans who have made his life what it is

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for the last time in that kind of environment, and

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that having that whole you know, essentially the entire eight

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hour day or whatever leaving up to that point was

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basically just the elaborate retiring party and having all of

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his friends and all of his matrough all these bands right,

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you know, it's a fun time. But that moment of

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Ossie coming out doing his solo set and then getting

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the guys he started it with in Black Sabbath before

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it as well, just for him, that is clearly the

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final moment on stage that I think he could be

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happy with, and that ultimately, I think is the be

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all and end or of whether that moment is a

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good thing. Or not. You can then factor in what

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after you know, he hasn't played with South for twenty years,

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getting the moment to bow out with the rest of them,

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which he did not get the last time, and then

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of charity money or whatever this kind of contributed, it's

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it is hard to kind of really fold your arms

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about it. And I think when you see what this

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day as well, like the amount of like genuinely super

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sincere after the show messages that bands or musicians whatever

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of Axl Rose and Aussie like you know, shaking hands

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or whatever, like everyone clearly knew what the moment was

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and the fact that you get, you know, in their

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own rights. Stadium headlining actually bigger than Black Sabbath bands

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like Guns n' Roses or Metallica turning up and absolutely

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like yeah, we'll go on at six pm and will

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play four songs because this is your moment and we

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would not be here without you. And everyone clearly was

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so honored by the occasion. Even though we can bitch

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and we do have valid complaints about maybe some of

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the people who were or weren't involved or whatever, that

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pure message I think has just overrided the majority of

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what else has been kind of put out there this weekend.

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by beat review of the entire show, because that would

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be very, very long, and none of us are actually there,

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so that we're pouring and a bit rich to pretend

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like we were, But just some of the impressions and

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were the moments that you like popped for when they arrived,

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that you were like, oh, so that's what that turned

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Speaker 3: Well, so initially that the family event was meant to

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be a barbecue. I will have this going in the background.

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whole eleven hour stretch, because when were you going to leave? Like,

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the first thing that clocked was basically every band. I

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don't know if they were told to do this or

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if they decided this is like our live aid moment,

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like let's go out and just pack it as densely

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as possible. Pretty Much every band did their biggest songs,

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and in that sort of setting, it's kind of hard

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to capture the excitement that that creates, where you know

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that every band's going to go out in front of

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forty two thousand people, and however many million are watching

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at home and get their moment to go work. Look

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Tongue and Blood and Thunder, do you know what I mean?

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It's just that sort of thing where like I said,

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Ego has put aside, there's no worry about like, oh on,

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this album got a promote. They's got a promot that

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have your time on the biggest stage of all, at

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the biggest heavy male ven there is, and just do that.

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engaged and out in front of the TV was the

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promise of every band doing a Black Sabbath cover. Yeah,

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and that thing of going who's gonna do what? Because

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really you start thinking about it, you go like almost

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anyone could do anything, and pretty quickly you realized there

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was no point predicting it because obviously you thought, well,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my cynicism evaporated.

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Speaker 1: They're they're, they're they're the only band so far who

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have released a studio version of their cover. Basically immediately,

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it'd be interesting to see if any more of those

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Speaker 2: But yeah, fun or like not.

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kind of sets you go like, oh really, it's it's

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you know what's it called? First Come, First Servant Away

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was Anthrax doing Into the Void, which I could have

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sworn was going to be one of the songs that

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Sauth did or one of the later bands, And we'll

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get to it later, but some of the later bands

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moments when they start doing the supergroups and cycling people

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in and out again. Some people you kind of go like,

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why are they here? Some people maybe aren't that great.

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the Most bark at the Moon, and Travis Barker from

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Blink on It two is behind him, and then Nuno

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from Extreme is doing the solo. You just like, what

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Speaker 3: It's properly mad and it worked amazingly. It was so good.

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sort of thing was like that that makes perfect sense,

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understood the assignment.

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Speaker 1: The fact of the first one was mastered On doing

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super or like the first band on and they got

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that like like collective percussion circle with like Danny Carey

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and you know these other people involved with it. Yeah,

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like that makes you go immediately, Okay, you're the first

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band on mastered on. They are one of the smallest,

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most comparable to a cult band on this bill, But

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straight away you just going, yeah, star power, look at

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the party this is gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He got like four of the best drummers in the

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world all at it together. I think that would have

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set the tone really nicely.

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Speaker 3: And the other one later where you just go like,

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what am I even seeing was when it was Steven

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Tyler on stage with Tom Morello, Ronnie Wood and Chad

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Smith on drums, and I'm forgetting the other people who

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are up there, and they're just coming out and doing

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like walk this way into a whole lot of love again,

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not Ozzie or Sabbath songs, but just addressing the moment

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and going like this is the biggest rock party. Yeah,

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found them big.

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Speaker 1: Moment for Stephen Tyler actually because Aerosmith, you know, could

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have went off the road a couple years ago because

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he was having vocal issues, and by by all accounts

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he found it sounded to fucking great and killed it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Sounded like fucking I mean, I'll say as as that

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the Aerosmith hater, Yeah, he sounded fucking great, Like he.

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Speaker 2: Said, good for him.

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Speaker 3: And even moments which I thought could be really enough,

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they managed to turn it around. And I don't know

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if it was just my good will or it was

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the exciting moment. So I just think they rescued it.

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So one of the things we were doing in my

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family was this game of the I was some special guests,

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so we're all placing bets on who the special guests

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were going to be and like see who would show up,

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and a surprising number of them did. And one of

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the people I put down was Jack Black. By didn't

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know in what capacity he'd come in, and I think

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it was like, it's Scott Ian's kid, and Tom Morello's

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son came out and went like, we want to introduce

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like mister Crowley or something, and then this video starts

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playing of them two and two other very young musicians

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like ten to thirteen aged start playing mister Crowley and

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I go Tom, like, this is very nice, but at

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the biggest heavy metal show of all time, why have

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you got your kid? And his mate was also like

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the kid of another guy in a band, and got on,

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let them do mister Crowley because it is the first

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We didn't know what anyone else was gonna do it,

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and I just thought like, this is a bit of

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a wasted opportunity. And then when fucking Jack black appears

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and you go, oh my, they're doing.

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Speaker 5: School of Rock.

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Speaker 3: They're doing School of Rock back to the beginning, and

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I have an immense amount of nostalgia for that film

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that just seems to like.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was stuff like off the side of that was

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kind of extracurricular. Maybe it's a bit cheeky, a bit silly,

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but it's that was an actual a lister doing something

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kind of out in a way, out of his wheelhouse,

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something a bit off kilter, and it just felt so loving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean again, am I right in saying because

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I have a slightly different impression of because I didn't

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actually watch the whole thing. Yeah, that was like a

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video thing, right? And is that also how because they

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were actually there in the stadium. For example, when the

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poster appeared of who was there and we were like

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fred Durst, how could Fred Durst be there? That was

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like a video stream thing as well of him doing

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changes for the second time that day, right, and saying that's.

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Speaker 3: How it worked. Yeah, there were a couple of things

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like that where Jonathan Davis was on the poster. I

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kept waiting for him to show up and then he

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just came in a video and we're like, hey, like

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best of luck, Like that's not really poster worthy. Behavior

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but fine, but like fred Durst again and I was

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looking out for and then he comes on the sort

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on the street. It just took over the video. But

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presuming he was played on the screens at the stadium,

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I would think the fred that I've got to say,

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I mean, I I despise young Blood, so it's not

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that surprising. I thought his Changes cover was kind of annoying.

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Fred Durst doing changes is both the most and least

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appropriate choice possible. But like again just to go like

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the family that will sat there and people go like

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who is this guy? I was like, this is the

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guy that did break stuff and people I was like

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what they didn't know? Fred Dost had this balladeering why

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is that with the puss with a cello?

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Speaker 2: Like this is yeah, the young Blood thing.

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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people have said that

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young Blood was like did fucking incredibly unchanges, Like I

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just can't do it with that guy's voice.

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Speaker 5: The good will for the event, yeah, well young Blood

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is yeah, I reckon, he probably did do a good job.

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Speaker 1: I've seen like little bits of the clip. I just

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I can't stand his voice. And I also don't even

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like changes as a song anyway. So the combination two

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things was not really going to be for me, but

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as said, the good will of everything he put in

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a shit brilliant going through again some of the more

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rogue choices of covers, Kajira doing under the Sun is like,

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that's a that's a heavy poll, that that's cool as fuck,

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and then there's a poll later on that I don't know.

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I felt like it was for us because we did

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a Black Sabbath special at the start of this year

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focusing not on the Ozzie years, right, and obviously we

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knew there wasn't gonna be anyone coming out doing headless

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cross or fucking disturbing the priest or whatever this other

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stuff we had a whale of a time talking about.

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But we did start that special talking about like the

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final couple of the of you know, the seventies Assie

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records when they kind of go off the you know,

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the the path a bit to lead us into the

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story we're actually telling. And when we were talking about

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Nether Say Die and how mad it is and stuff

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like that, and we were like, Johnny Blade, well, bizarre

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mad little song Johnny Blade is when I saw her

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on this setlist that Metallica, the band famous for having

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Sabbath covers. They didn't even play, but they just decided

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to play Johnny fucking Blade. That was one of the

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most exciting things this whole thing for me. I was

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like Metallica Johnny Blade to a stadium of Like, however,

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many fucking thousands of people, many of whom probably don't

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know that song, so rogue and so awesome.

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Speaker 3: I could not believe my eyes and the ears because

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they came out to hold in the Sky, which already

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I was like, what Sabrika dabra, that's your Sabbath cut, Like,

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no one's done it yet, that's yours, Like that's on garage,

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everyone's gonna expect that from you. And hold of the Sky,

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like that's an interesting choice. And then three songs, lads,

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when they Johnny Blade, Hole of the Sky seems so boring.

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It seems like such a choice from metell because you're

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just like, what is and what's weird?

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Speaker 1: Blade?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? As it starts, as I thought like this, like

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and you've recogize that and you know us truth as

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we're going, what's no, surely surely not doing Johnny Blade.

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Of all fucking songs, especially mad because Guns and Roses

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just come off and done the songs off. Never say

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Die they did, Never Say Die Junior's eyes and it's

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all right. I mean, so you just go like, how

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is said I getting more representation than like Black Sabbath Black.

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Speaker 1: Sound perfectly tuneful renditions. I'm sure you'd agree from from

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Guns and Roses there, but Johnny Blade from Metallica.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Blade returning to Johnny and the cover was like,

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it was good, like it fit. It made like because

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because I as soon as it started all over that's

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a weird. Like that drum part is so bill Ward.

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I couldn't imagine any other drummer playing at all. And

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Lars Alric in like classical lars Arek fashion.

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Speaker 4: He's not any other drama.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't matter what bill Ward did. Who cares what

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the drum part is. We're going and suddenly it's a

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four on the floor like biker rock, and you're like,

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oh yeah, and you got the song is in bactor

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jam and in the hands of Metallica, it's like a

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stadium metal song, which obviously it's not.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe we're going to come back to this,

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I suppose, because this is obviously the other band we're

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majorally talking about, but the other cover on.

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Speaker 2: The list Rabben.

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Speaker 1: What is Slayer doing Wicked World? Because not only is

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that a deep poll, Slayer are the band on this bill.

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Where I maybe found it hard is to envision what

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they're doing a Sabbath couple would actually sound like, because

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Slayer don't swing, you know, like Slayer, are you know,

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Lamb of God or whatever. You may be difficult to imagine,

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but like Slayer and Sabbath, despite being two of the

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quintidential names and heavy metal do not seem to cross

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over a lot of passages. And I was like, what

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fucking Slayer songer that Saba song?

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Speaker 2: Could Slayer do?

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Speaker 1: And I certainly would have guessed a B side from

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the first album, but I guess that's you know, Kerry

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King and tom A Ray or whatever. It's like og

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Sabbath fans from back then in the same way they

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cover pre songs on their classic records, drawing on that.

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Speaker 2: But what a mad what a mad thing to do?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just started laughing because I thought it's gonna

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be hand of Doom or sense of the Universe.

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Speaker 2: Surely the universe if any of them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you think it's gonna be since in

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the universe then obviously, and Slayer they've come out and

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they've done like Disciple War Ensemble, and I think they

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might have done South of Heaven by them, it's like

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three fucking rages and then poor Boss Staff and you're like,

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you've picked like the Jet d Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the jazziest on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It's just saying like, you know, Slayer don't swing, and

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they picked the swingiest Sabbath song, like the proper barn

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dance rhythm. It's just and quite cool that in a

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way that they didn't do the whole in fact that

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they did South of Heaven afterwards, because halfway through Wicked

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World they just kind of stopped and skipped the whole

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South of Heaven intro and just went straight into that

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first Verson that's like a you know, no.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the video of them doing Wicked World

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and then building it into Before the Sea you like

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you Will both Die and ever Going, Oh, which is

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as rad I love that as a combination of things.

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And then we should, of course just got you know,

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skipped forward to actually talk about because you can talk

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about every single cover that was done you know, Tall

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doing hand of Doom sounds like a fucking cool But

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you know the reason for the season Ossie and Black Sabbath.

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Ozzie as we knew he'd be kind of, you know,

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wheeled out on his throne, look like he was perfectly

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comfortable their lovely stuff, doing his little solo set, and

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then Black Sabbath again arriving playing four or five songs

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whatever it would be. In some ways, I guess the

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most predictable part of the of the evening because you

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just know it's going to be those four guys peeling

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out that thunderous sound that changed the world. But yeah,

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quite something to even just a far through the internet

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or whatever observe and be like, yeah, you know, I

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know that we all thought that we had bid farewell

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to that for the last time, but now properly with

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the four of them and everything with the sense of

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I think that there is a greater sense of finality

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about this and the sense of celebration of having everyone involved,

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having basically put in, like I get a ten hour

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shift or whatever of rocking up to that point, specifically

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as the prelude to these four guys playing this handful

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of songs there is something different about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I remember, and I think part of this

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was me almost coping with the fact that bill Ward

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wasn't part of the last reunion. But everyone saying, oh,

477
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000
you know these thirteen missus, bill Ward and the toy.

478
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:12,920
It's that the guy's fine, but there's no bill Ward,

479
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,880
And I was like, yeah, but you know, you can

480
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,160
play those parts, and you know, bill Ward's kind of

481
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,519
old anyway, maybe it's good to have some fresh But

482
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:23,319
probably just me trying to console myself for the fact

483
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,200
that I was going to see the original four Sabbath

484
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,720
members and even though bill Ward very understandably is not

485
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,920
as you know, he's not the same powerhouse that he

486
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,240
was back in the day, And there were a couple

487
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,079
of slip ups along the way, Like the films were simplified,

488
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:43,000
there were moments where it him maybe slightly late, when

489
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,279
he was locked in and that swing was there, that

490
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:52,000
like irrepressible, inexplicable, that thing that makes Sabbath Sabbath. When

491
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,519
that's there, that to me alone was worth doing this

492
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:58,680
whole thing, because when it gets like that bit of

493
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,720
the end of War Pigs, or when nib is kicking off,

494
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,400
or when Iron Man's laying into that groove. That's a

495
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,240
sound I haven't heard before, because I've heard, you know,

496
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,279
Sabbath with in the twenty tens plenty, but not with

497
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,160
Bill Ward and him being there. I kind of didn't

498
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,880
quantify what a huge thing that was gonna be until

499
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,640
I was watching it, and because I kind of thought, oh,

500
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,400
you know, it's a bonus, like it's just an extra song,

501
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,400
it's a nice nale blody blah blah. It's like, Wow,

502
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200
those are the fucking the four dudes. Like so much

503
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,519
of my life has been dominated by heavy metal and

504
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,000
go into shows and listening to the music and obsessing

505
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,079
over it, and it's just those four people for one

506
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,559
last time, closing out this whole thing, and like, like

507
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,160
you say, you knew it was gonna be those four guys,

508
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,880
You probably knew what songs they were gonna do. As

509
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720
someone who loves this music, it's just so affecting to

510
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,480
see and hear that.

511
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

512
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: And then obviously for Ozzie as well, we've spoken about

513
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,000
the kind of the emotion of the occasion for him

514
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920
very very clearly, and I think the set, like there's

515
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,839
that really cute little video of Geezer Butler going off

516
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,000
stage and bringing him back like a Ossie cake, you know,

517
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,559
like everyone, it's like, yeah, those four guys are still

518
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,720
They have had their ups and fucking downs in terms

519
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,279
of contract bullshit and the cynicism of the rock industry

520
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:17,079
taking its toll and all that stuff, but there they are,

521
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,559
you know, the four of them together, and there's still

522
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,200
that connection and that's that's incredible. And you know, in terms,

523
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,400
I know, obviously the event was crazy fucking expensive. I

524
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:28,720
know that it has its elements that we have criticized,

525
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:33,119
and you know, even though it is completely historic, I'm

526
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,160
still not like, I'm not overwhelmed with this sense of fomo.

527
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,559
I wish I had, like, you know, sold my fucking

528
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,359
so all of my belongings to to be there. All

529
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,359
I've heard from people who were there was just the

530
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,720
sense of magic and joy around the occasion. And so

531
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,480
I do believe, you know, I completely believe that it

532
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,200
was one for the one for the books, and so

533
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,640
that is obviously against something that none of us were

534
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720
actually attending, but certainly demanded a little bit of conversation

535
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,559
as to you know, it's placed in the history books

536
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,039
of not just this year but overall in you know,

537
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,079
rock and metal history. Something that we can give a

538
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960
little bit more of a personal report about is involving

539
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,559
a band and maybe a handful of bands who are

540
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:21,400
all in attendance at that Sabbath show, is that you

541
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,599
could you know, it could get lost amidst the normality

542
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,319
of that Sabbath show. But as the first time that

543
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,319
Slayer have appeared this little run on in the UK

544
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,640
since they're very shocking surprise reunion from last year and

545
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,319
they either side of the biggest Sabbath show played two

546
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,880
big outdoor shows in the UK. There was one in Cardiff,

547
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,240
there was one in London. They brought along a mighty

548
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,920
mighty blockbuster support bill in their own right to those shows.

549
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,640
There has been a lot of theorizing and kind of

550
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,359
I don't know, observing of some of the business around

551
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,440
these Slayer shows, as I seem to feel like we

552
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:02,799
have having conversations about more and more and more when

553
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,559
it comes to big outdoor festival occasions or whatever because

554
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,319
of all the I don't know, the strange nebulous stuff

555
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,160
that goes in trying to flog tickets or whatever, and

556
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,720
I feel like there are a lot of people who

557
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:14,640
in the weekly up these Slayer shows basically believed that

558
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,319
forty people would be in attendance because of the ticket

559
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,160
flogging or whatever that was going on.

560
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,279
Speaker 2: But it's quite reassuring.

561
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:25,559
Speaker 1: I suppose, looking again, I was not at these shows,

562
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,640
but watching footage of them, being like, oh, there's big

563
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,319
crowds going nuts for Slayer and all of these other bands. Right,

564
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:36,440
Elliotts you you went to the Cardiff show, Sam, you

565
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:38,240
were at the London one. I know there was a

566
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,440
strange nebulus in terms of particularly set times, in difference

567
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,079
between the Cardiff and the London show.

568
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,759
Speaker 5: London was like an all day Cardiff was like a

569
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:46,640
half day.

570
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, with that, which is is fucking weird in terms

571
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000
of again, I don't know if you guys would have

572
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,039
like paid the same price for these shows and how

573
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:56,799
that works in terms of what you actually got. It's

574
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240
very strange. But you have seen the same bands, and

575
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,319
you both well, I guess we've seen roughly the same

576
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:04,759
Slayer show. So we're now going to talk a little

577
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,359
bit about the return of Slayer to the UK after

578
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,759
six years. I suppose also could be the last time.

579
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:13,759
Probably won't be the last time, but it is still momentous, nonetheless,

580
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,359
and you guys got to see fucking Slayer, so.

581
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. How was fucking Slayer guys?

582
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: I mean, I've not seen Slayer since twenty thirteen, so

583
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:27,039
I was like, wow, desperate to sort of I just

584
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,319
timings like not being at the festivals they are at

585
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,599
all the sort of things, so like missed the entire

586
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,119
farewell run, all of that sort of stuff. Didn't just

587
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,599
didn't land my way. So that's why fuck all the

588
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,880
demand about like, oh, you paid full prices this year,

589
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,559
and I was like, I've not fucking seen Slayers' twenty thirteen.

590
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: They're bringing that fucking line up. Yeah, I'll pay one hundred.

591
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: Quid for it.

592
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: Women can sing some of the other shows what they're

593
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,319
I was just going when I well they're charging, I'm like,

594
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,519
I'm getting my money's worth with this Slayer bills. While

595
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,119
I had no qualms about tickets running like that, I

596
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,440
was like, I want to fucking see Slayer. It's been

597
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,839
way too long, and I was just in the mood,

598
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,759
but just like I just want to hear fast, fucking

599
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880
fresh riffs. I want to be able to like do

600
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000
my like Angel live Deaf screams and just have a

601
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,960
good time mutching one of the greatest fresh bands ever,

602
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,359
and I just happened to watch, you know, a bunch

603
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640
of other kick ass bands beforehand, so I was just

604
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,079
fully like I had no kind of like issues going

605
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:18,319
into this.

606
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:19,839
Speaker 4: I was like, let's let's have a grand old dea

607
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,519
of heavy metal.

608
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: Yees see. I saw Slayer's last UK show a download

609
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,519
and that is one of the funnest gig memories I

610
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,480
have and will likely ever have. And it was one

611
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,079
of those things where part of me did think, I

612
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,599
do I want to go and tarnish this. I don't

613
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:35,319
mind Slayer going out and playing these shows, but do

614
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,039
I want to go and have a Slayer show after

615
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,480
that that might not live up to it. So when

616
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:41,720
it was just like, oh, it's probably just gonna be

617
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,359
the America, It's gonna be these three shows that one

618
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,799
summer last year, I thought, well, I don't really mind.

619
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,519
I'd like to see it, but I'm happy with my

620
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,200
Slayer experience. And then the moment they went on sale,

621
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,680
it was like, I'm going to Wales for this because

622
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,480
I am. I was so paranoid that it would sell

623
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,759
out in London. That I was like, well, whales won't

624
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,519
sell as much, and that was I guess turned out

625
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,319
to be true. Fine, but II the same thing where

626
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,839
I looked at the price and thought, not only is

627
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:13,279
it Slayer, but I never seen mastard on before. Whoa

628
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:13,880
was a big one.

629
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:15,559
Speaker 2: Never.

630
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 3: They've always been at like festivals when I've not been there,

631
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,200
except for when I.

632
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:20,319
Speaker 4: Was read the same thing.

633
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, But I was reading in twenty sixteen when

634
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:25,440
they were playing the Rock ten off the Dinner Escape Plan.

635
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880
But me and my friends had a vote and they

636
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,519
decided that the Red Hot Chili Peppers would be a

637
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,319
better thing to go and watch, and I thought, don't worry,

638
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:35,519
I'll go see them next time. And that was nine

639
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:40,160
years ago. So mastered on a monomath. Anth Ax hate

640
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,279
reed that bill. Even if in Cardiff we did suffer

641
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,799
some shorter set times, which only dawned on me on

642
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:50,240
the day when I was like it was in the

643
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480
town over. I was saying when should I get there,

644
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,640
and I just thought, hang on, how the fuck is

645
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,599
this all gonna work? Like if I'm getting there at

646
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:02,440
like five and there's five bands Slayer, I've got to

647
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,759
be off by ten thirty so it and what transports

648
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,039
doors were at five Hatebred's one at five fifteen there

649
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,400
were twenty minutes of Hate Breed. There was Las at

650
00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,400
thirty minutes of masteredon. So part of me was like,

651
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,519
this is unfair. I've been I should have thought this through,

652
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,960
like I should have known. But in another way it

653
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,039
kind of worked in my favor because a bit like

654
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:29,160
that Sabbage show we were just talking about, all the

655
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,599
bands had to go right. Anything that even resembles fat

656
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160
shed it because every set list I saw, even if

657
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,319
the performances weren't like out of this world at least

658
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:43,440
for one of the bands, the set lists were unfuck

659
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,799
with able.

660
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well bizarre at that word.

661
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's again because yours gig was

662
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,839
on like a Wednesday or something. Wasn't it so compared

663
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:52,440
to a full weekend event, But you know they should

664
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200
have ran it, like obviously the London show worked, or

665
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,799
the death Zone show we went to the week before whatever,

666
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,720
but the same. I guess bands on the bill along

667
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,839
with us supposed to an extra opening band in London, Neckbreaker,

668
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400
who are kind of upcoming death metal band. We're gonna

669
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,240
fly through the non Slayer bands. You know, started with

670
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:10,599
neck Breaker in London and then onto Hate Breed and

671
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,279
so on throughout What does I mean even fucking the

672
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,920
full price ticket before it then became a fucking like

673
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,559
fifty quid ticket or whatever. The idea of seeing those

674
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,119
like five all all tim of heavy metal or heavy

675
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:27,000
bands together it is the you know, if the Black

676
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,440
Sabbath lineup is the most like ridiculous star studed lineup

677
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,960
of the year, this Slayer one is just the most

678
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,839
like I am here to break some fucking heads and

679
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,319
nothing else, big metal rider for the year.

680
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,559
Speaker 5: I did catch neck Breaker in London. They're the one

681
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:44,119
new band on the lineup of like say legendary I

682
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,640
want to function up metal band.

683
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: So I was like, why are they on there? Like

684
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:51,000
what have they landed? And pretty good actually kind of

685
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:52,680
like groovy death Court.

686
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,799
Speaker 5: They need to get a couple of songs going for

687
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:56,960
themselves to really stand out, but you know they've got

688
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,519
a pick going like this is the sort of thing

689
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,400
where like the crowd was as say, up for smashing

690
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,160
heads because halfway through neckbreakers first song, there's a pick going,

691
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,359
like not the biggest club, but everyone who's there early

692
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:10,799
is like right, let's fucking go and bounce it.

693
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, having a good time.

694
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that band are okay. You know, I've

695
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,519
not seen them live. I've only heard their record, and

696
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,680
I think they're okay. And for whatever reason, they seem

697
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,519
to be getting like again, of newer, younger death metal bands,

698
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:21,799
they seem to be getting a lot of these like

699
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,079
you know, pushes and slots, So they got something going

700
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,400
on with them that's, you know, drawing people to them. Like,

701
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,960
I agree with you that, I think, you know, the

702
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:31,400
music needs to advanced a little bit further.

703
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,119
Speaker 2: But that's that.

704
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 1: Onto Hate Breed, who Elliott saw, you know, fifteen to

705
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:36,720
twenty minutes off or whatever.

706
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,559
Speaker 2: But be brief with this.

707
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,799
Speaker 1: One, because I did speak about hate Breed at Mystic

708
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:42,599
Festival a few months ago, a few weeks ago, even

709
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,839
in Poland. But on that I spoke about the ridiculousness

710
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:48,039
of the particularly the opening run of what hate Breed

711
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:50,720
decided to come out and do, and Sam, you were like, oh,

712
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,839
if hate Breed do something fucking similar at London And

713
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,160
it wasn't the exact same set list, but the impression

714
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,119
I got is the same kind of oh, hate Breed

715
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:03,039
that I was certainly walking through that Polish shipyard feeling.

716
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,799
Speaker 5: I mean they open with I will be heard. I'm

717
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:06,839
hunching my friend.

718
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: I mean like the Setlers in London, I will be heard.

719
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 5: To the Fresh I'd tear it down perseverance as die

720
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,480
had as they come in Accessary Proven, this is now

721
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,400
destroy everything looking down the barrel of today. That's a

722
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:23,320
fucking hit after after hit Proven has one of top

723
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,880
five beatdowns of all time. Seeing that in a big

724
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,119
outdoor field in act they had the Balls of Death

725
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,880
come out. Great fun Hate By I'm just like something

726
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Jakes said, but oh so I think I quite kind

727
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920
of believe it. Hate We are the greatest band ever.

728
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,559
I fucking love that bad. I had the best time, Ellieah.

729
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: I needed to see much Hate Breed because of the

730
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,639
insane quan situation in Cardiff, where like I say, doors

731
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,480
are at five, they're on fifty minutes later, and they

732
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:51,519
were twenty thousand people hoping to get it. So Hate

733
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,400
Bred probably only played to a couple hundred people at

734
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,840
the at the start of their show, but I got

735
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,039
in so the last few songs you could tell there

736
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,320
was a bit of frustration from Jamie, like we're being

737
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,519
told to cut it, but you know, you guys have

738
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,559
been awesome. We'll be back again with kill Switch Engage

739
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:08,519
and all that. They they made use of their twenty minutes.

740
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,400
You could tell they kind of expended all their energy

741
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:12,280
there and then I hate Actually I'm not a huge

742
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,840
Hate Breed fan, so I wouldn't know the ins and

743
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,280
outs of the sett list, but the people there did

744
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,039
seem to go a bitter, go a bit mental for it,

745
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,320
So big, big thumbs up.

746
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mastered On.

747
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: This is also notable for them because these their first

748
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,400
shows in the UK without Brent Hines, Right, so Elliott,

749
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,000
I mean half an hour of Mastered on for a

750
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,119
first time seeing there is no time at all. But also,

751
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,679
as we're saying, you know, noteworthy for this kind of new,

752
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,320
currently slightly unknown version of what's going on with Mastered On.

753
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: How were they? Well, yes, there were a few things

754
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
that were kind of swimming in my mind before I

755
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,320
thought like, this is my first time seeing Mastered on

756
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,039
and it's gonna be a half hour set outdoors, which

757
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:53,320
I know can be notorious new guitar player, and who

758
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,559
knows if like the vocals are going to work because

759
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:58,719
sometimes even Mason when musically they're great. I've seen live

760
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
videos where the vocals don't quite hit it. Not only

761
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,519
were all those things fantastic, especially with the quick turnarounds,

762
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:07,960
the sound for all the bands was just brilliant. Mast

763
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,559
On sounded fucking crushing, Troy sounded great. The new Guy's cool,

764
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,800
good looking.

765
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: Only complaint like could be a problem.

766
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: But as far as the settlist for half an hour

767
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,519
of masted On, Crystal Skull, Black Tongue, Megalodon, more than

768
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:30,039
I could chew, Mother Puncher, Blood and Thunder, I.

769
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: Mean, like I I still left Mother Puncher in there.

770
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: That's kid. Yeah, like just especially more than I could chew.

771
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,199
They really jammed on that for a while. They were

772
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,320
kind of milk and then you could sells like right

773
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,039
when need something fast and frocious and completely fucking feral.

774
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,079
Just that felt like hate breed, like they kind of

775
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,199
suffered from, like the slow start of people getting in

776
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,000
and you know, getting a short set. Maston was like, Okay,

777
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,760
the night has begun, and like I say, one of

778
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,880
my absolute favorite ever metal bands. Six ten out of

779
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,679
ten songs, back to back to back, no messing about.

780
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:07,079
Everyone sounded great. Brand vocally sounded brilliant Troy, just like

781
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,079
he sounded fucking mad like vocally he's because because there's

782
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:13,360
that thing where like you know, he's an older guy

783
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,360
and like on hushting Grim, there's this weird effects on

784
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,599
his vocals which has taken me quite a while to

785
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,159
adjust to. And I wonder if there was gonna be

786
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:23,599
some of that live he's channeling that blood Mountain Leviathan

787
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,079
like crazed maniac thing they add on those records again.

788
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,440
I am so ready for another mass on the record

789
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:33,880
and whatever, whatever the toy is holy as far as Cardiff,

790
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,679
I can't wait for another half an hour shoft to

791
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,480
go and see the full thing.

792
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, first time's going White Whale, Holy Grail is a

793
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,960
special moment.

794
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: Special, I mean, yeah, London.

795
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: So we've got tread lightly, We've got the mother Load,

796
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,480
which is fucking brilliant. I will second, I've never seen

797
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,119
mass On outdoors. I've seen him a few times, but

798
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,519
I've never seen him outdoors. They've always heard you know, oh,

799
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:58,239
they they're never good at festivals. They're a bad outdoor band.

800
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,920
Fucking brilliant like they were so good. So yeah, we

801
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,840
got tread lightly, the motherload and pushing the tides before

802
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,360
then they cranked into crystals one black tongue.

803
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,519
Speaker 4: I was having the best time. We got steam breathing

804
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,679
near the end, which was really cool. Blood and Thunder

805
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,320
caused the heavens to open, which again like.

806
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,079
Speaker 5: If there are times where it's like theramatically relevant for

807
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:19,880
it to start pouring of the rain, I'll take it.

808
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,960
During Blood and Thunder Like, yeah, I thought they were great.

809
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,320
Did did they have the keyboardist for you as well?

810
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,679
When you were seeing them in Cardiff with his top

811
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,639
hat and sunglasses looking like a complete lunatic. Yeah, I

812
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,880
thought Maston were brilliant. They sounded great. The new guitarists

813
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,079
he's kind of started in and they seemed to be

814
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:40,920
having fun on stage. I was like, okay, cool that

815
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,079
there's a chemistry between the lineup right now, which again

816
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:46,280
I wasn't sure about with this new guitarist, but I

817
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,039
was like, no, that the four guys like there's a

818
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,519
chemistry between there. They're balancing off each other and they

819
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,519
see him again quite happy to be on stage, and

820
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,199
you know they were talking about yesterday was the greatest

821
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,119
metal show of all time sort of thing they were

822
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,159
on to be part of it, and you know that

823
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480
they can't wait to you know, play more songs now.

824
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 4: It was a massive win for Mastadon.

825
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

826
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:06,639
Speaker 1: I saw a video of them then did the mother

827
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Load at the London show, and I thought brand did

828
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,239
sound particularly like on point with it so great. Anthrax

829
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,039
just always basically perfect Slayer warm up music essentially. I

830
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:18,239
love Anthrax and I haven't seen them living quite a

831
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,239
long time actually, and I'd be well up for seeing them,

832
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,840
but the amount of times I have seen them in

833
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000
the exact slot of hyping me up for Slayer is great.

834
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:29,039
And you know, I'm sure that there's nothing particularly special

835
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,039
or crazy about the Anthrax show, but looking at the

836
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,239
setlist for the London one in front of me, it's

837
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,719
just all fucking like, literally nothing from my after nineteen ninety,

838
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,639
just all classics. It's hard to complain about among the

839
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,800
living caught in a marsh madhouse, fucking you know.

840
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: Last time I saw Slayer, am Frax were main support

841
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,679
and they did pretty much the exact same set.

842
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,039
Speaker 4: Am Fraks are the perfect forty minute festival band, like

843
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:55,920
they're very good at it. It like come out.

844
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 5: Among the living court and a marsh madhouse, melfrashing mad,

845
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,960
I'm the Law, and Social got the Time, Indians. I

846
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:03,760
was amaze, and we were always quite too hardcore. And

847
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,960
when in our space with the back, when I Am

848
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,760
the Lord came on, we were doing our silly bit

849
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,280
walks and like all of that, because like a Facts

850
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,440
are a fucking hardcre band. Scott Ian is two stepping

851
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,400
on stage right now. You can't tell me that hardcore isn't.

852
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: In this band's DNA. Jerry bella donna act young good

853
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,880
for my fault.

854
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 3: He was really up for it.

855
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,599
Speaker 5: He was having fun, sounded surprisingly good. I had great

856
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,840
fun watching Anthrax. I don't know how they weren't kind

857
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,360
of but it was just it was such a feel

858
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,639
good forty minutes in London.

859
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's similarly the only quibble I have is that

860
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,199
because with the Abridge sets we got like we got

861
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,159
just the among the living intro caught in a marsh, Anti,

862
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Social got the Life and Indians and that was it

863
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,599
so kind of four songs really like if you don't,

864
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:51,280
if you don't consider the intro living a full song. Yeah,

865
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,599
Anthrax are just they were a remarkably undemanding band to

866
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:56,840
go and see, like you don't have to stand there

867
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,679
guessing what they're gonna play like that. The songs aren't

868
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:05,079
ferociously heavy or ferocially fast. They're just happy, upbeat, cheery,

869
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,239
thrash songs that they said they get you in the middle,

870
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960
like Slayer is going to be the assault later Anthx,

871
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,800
it's just like the sun's starting to go down, classic

872
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,599
metal tunes, nothing like you say past nineteen ninety or

873
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,360
even I think nineteen eighty eight in our case. Yeah,

874
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,079
like probably of the bands I saw the weakest of

875
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,920
the bunch, but is a competitive class. Just a nice

876
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,760
time and like you say that, they are in good form.

877
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 4: So I think in London they were like the surprise

878
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,239
hit of the day for me. While I was I

879
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,480
was like, arak'sill be fine?

880
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:34,599
Speaker 5: And then I don't think it's because it was with

881
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,119
my friends or because of just like when we're getting

882
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:38,679
like got the time and all of that, and it

883
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,480
was just jing us up and we were again war dance.

884
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,880
We were like throwing fists in our little corner of

885
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,239
the stage, Like it really was a surprise for me

886
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,599
for like I've seen An Franks do that exact scept

887
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,440
for but right place, right time.

888
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: I was just joyous.

889
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're in the field and you're

890
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,840
in the like you're in the mood for just hearing

891
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,440
a bunch of that kind of heavy metal, and then

892
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,599
Anthrax come out and deliver It's there is something quite

893
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:03,960
wonderful about that. I thought it said a lot about

894
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,880
actually the position that a Mono Math are in now

895
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,880
as a band, that they would be big logo, main

896
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,960
support slot under Slayer over you know what a Slayer's

897
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
peers in Anthrax, one of the great metal bands of

898
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,199
the twenty first century and mastered on I think the

899
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360
fact that they are now so clearly like that, you know,

900
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,559
we are the band who play before Slayer, big metal

901
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,760
draw with the stage show and everything to go with it.

902
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,880
I thought that was just a great testament to what

903
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,320
one of Mauth kind of you know, where they live

904
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,119
these days and what they've kind of grown to and achieved.

905
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I really like them on a math

906
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,280
and have them for a long time, But the two

907
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,280
times I've seen them previously, I've always thought that was fun,

908
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,840
like cool band, et cetera, et cetera. I was pretty

909
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,639
stunned by what I saw on Thursday. It was my

910
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,880
first time seeing them in about six or seven years,

911
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,840
and even though I think they lightly released one record

912
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000
in that time and maybe a couple of singles, they've

913
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:57,039
just established a set list of unfuck with able, big

914
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,360
stage metal tunes where you look at that set and

915
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,639
just off the top of my head, it's like Guardians

916
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,760
of Ours, God Shield Wall, put your Back into the Ore,

917
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,760
find a Way, God Kill Yeap, like Crack the Sky, Twilight,

918
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,320
the thunder God, and a lot of pretty much everything

919
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,360
was like twenty thirteen onwards, with the exception Nobody Kings.

920
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,760
That's surprising, Yeah, yeah there was. There was some major

921
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,639
ones I was expecting that didn't make make an appearance

922
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:27,960
in the set. But they are, for me now like

923
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,840
one of the ultimate populist metal bands of right now.

924
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,239
Where you go see them and there's gonna be very

925
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,039
few surprises other than maybe like a couple of song choices,

926
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,199
but like the sound of each song is big made

927
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:44,280
and guitar melodies, huge hulking riff. Now they've got like

928
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,679
you know, I've always seen people do the rowing action

929
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,480
I'm on the Marsters, but now they have a song

930
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:50,360
which calls for it's like they're jump the fuck up

931
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,440
moment where like that starts playing and everyone starts getting

932
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,039
down to do the row like they know what they're doing.

933
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,039
They're not daft. It's so cooled to see a band

934
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,360
like I get their flowers so late in the where

935
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480
they've been around for like thirty plus years, and like

936
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:04,920
in the last five they've just become this this bad

937
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,199
which can be main support as a slayer. And you

938
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
just felt the vibe in the field that day, like

939
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,199
people were so fucking up for it, and again maybe

940
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,599
a slightly sure set and they got in London, I

941
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,840
would imagine even tighter on the on the bang of front.

942
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: I enjoyed them on a malf.

943
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: The last time I saw them was when they headlined Bloodstock,

944
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,679
and they were fucking unbelievable that night, and I think,

945
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:27,920
I don't know if I was kind of like, oh,

946
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,199
you know, they've only bought like half of what they

947
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,119
can bring into the stage.

948
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: They still fire, they still have you know, those songs.

949
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,639
I thought they were good.

950
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: I was kind of hoping to be blown away by

951
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,800
a mono math on this day with open my Guardians

952
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,239
of az God.

953
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, the crowd could have got going

954
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,480
of back and then the energy did.

955
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 5: This was the only set of the day where the

956
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,239
energy in the crowd kind of had some lulls in

957
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,079
it where people were kind of like, yeah, cool.

958
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: That's good.

959
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,679
Speaker 4: It's the one band I will allow it for.

960
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: But I still kind of recoiled in discuss that a

961
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,639
rowing pit and was like, don't two foo them, Sam, don't.

962
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,679
Speaker 2: You get kid out of you? This is their moment

963
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,599
that I was like, this is their moment.

964
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,159
Speaker 5: I was like, recreate that drain video, Like develenadis almost

965
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:09,400
want to.

966
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: Be like, recreate that drain video. No, they're allowed to

967
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,639
do it, Sam, let them be cringe.

968
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 5: But then you know Twilet of the thunder God to

969
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,360
end the set, like when he's coming out with the

970
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,039
hammer bam on the stage, piro as that riff gets going,

971
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,920
like you can't fuck with that. That's pretty fucking amazing.

972
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,760
I like to say I've got a monomuth for good.

973
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,239
I was just I don't think it was my expectations

974
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,960
or if it was just kind of the energy wasn't

975
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:34,639
as up for it. I would say I was hoping

976
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,000
for more, but it was still a very sort of

977
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,360
fun warm up for Slayer.

978
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, ultimately the day wasn't about them. Right because

979
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800
it was about Slayer, who maybe, again I don't know,

980
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,159
is that if there was set this difference between the

981
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:47,360
two of you. But I imagine this is maybe where

982
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,320
your day's kind of evened out in terms of what

983
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,920
was really really going on Slayer. It's different actually because

984
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,559
asking what was Slayer like? Right, asking that about Masterdon

985
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:59,360
when they've had the lineup change they've had is more

986
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,480
of a question. I imagine Slayer were basically like the

987
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:05,239
last time that Slayer were around than in this country, right.

988
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,199
I don't think they'll have changed very much. Maybe Tom

989
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,000
will be I don't know, like he's had a big

990
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,840
sleep and he will have slightly more jolliness about him

991
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,440
or whatever. But I can't imagine Slayer deviating much from

992
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000
the Slayer that I know and love and saw quite

993
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,119
a few times throughout the twenty tens. But I can ask,

994
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,639
did you guys have a fucking great time? And looking

995
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:29,239
at the setlist I have in front of me, it's

996
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,800
hard to imagine the arts of being anything but fuck yeah.

997
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, ah the best time.

998
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 5: Again, I haven't seen slav fucking ages. This did feel

999
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,039
like very much like this is twenty ten Slayer like

1000
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,519
or twenty twenty sort of slayer. Tom actually seems quite

1001
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:47,440
jolly at points. He was he was smiling, he was

1002
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,519
having fun. Obviously, his move on stage is always like

1003
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,239
for for how many like fifteen or I come in

1004
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,000
the exact a man time.

1005
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: He's had the surgery but been limited.

1006
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,559
Speaker 5: But you know, I will say in London they had

1007
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,360
a bit of a malfunction before the set started where

1008
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,159
the curtain that they had that was meant to be

1009
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,239
in front of the stage of this Slayer, when they

1010
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,079
dropped it, it got all tangled and wrapped up, so

1011
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:10,599
they had to kind of like abandon that, and then

1012
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:12,119
they just had the videos playing on the side of

1013
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,079
the screen, and then they just kind of walked on

1014
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,920
and then was like here's South of Heaven, which I

1015
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:18,840
was just like, fuck it, here's South of Heaven.

1016
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: Let's fucking go south of Heaven.

1017
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Into Repentless Into Disciple Disciple when they

1018
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,519
had them, I'm sure they had you know, the metric

1019
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:35,280
ship Ton of Pyro when you saw them last, you know,

1020
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:38,960
the giant inverted marshal lamp crosses, which are the coolest

1021
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,639
thing I think I've ever seen. The other thing of

1022
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,239
the Disciple was they had like pirate that would shoot

1023
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:45,760
up and then out like and then across that would

1024
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,599
make an inverted cross a flame in the middle of

1025
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:48,599
the stage that would just kind.

1026
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: Of like horror horror says.

1027
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,079
Speaker 5: I was like, that's the coolest piral I've ever seen.

1028
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:55,760
It's an inverted cross made purely out of fire. The

1029
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,599
Slayer or the coolest band in the world. When you're

1030
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,440
getting that, I was like, yeah, you know what. You

1031
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440
can have your quibbles about the Slayer of Reunion, but

1032
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:06,119
I'm watching some of the best fresh songs ever. Even

1033
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:09,320
you know, I'm not a Show No Mercy fan died

1034
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,760
by the sword fucking went off. Can imagine anyone who

1035
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960
likes metal not having the best time in these Slayer shows,

1036
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:17,280
Like I.

1037
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 3: Think I've just got some gray hairs here. You don't

1038
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:20,119
like Show No Mercy.

1039
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: It was just it's been a whole discussion. It's it's

1040
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,840
I think it's another worst Player album, Like that's not.

1041
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, the musical, like it's one of the that

1042
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:35,199
is that's Poser talks leave the hole to quote, Player

1043
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,039
gets amazing.

1044
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a bit of a ropie debut.

1045
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:40,400
It's a whole other conversation. But die by the loser?

1046
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,519
Can we not just celebrate Slayer here about pose you

1047
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,320
started it?

1048
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: We weren't saying died by the sword.

1049
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: I was saying mercy actually has.

1050
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,039
Speaker 3: Like not hard mercy.

1051
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,039
Speaker 2: You pray die by the sword, like it's a weird

1052
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,159
novel thing to do.

1053
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: It rips Elliott it that's rip they have.

1054
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: Like Sam was saying, they have turned into basically the

1055
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,599
band who turn up and for a long time, and

1056
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,360
they turned up and they deliver a comical amount of

1057
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,519
fire and brimstone. And there will be people out there

1058
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,480
who tell you that Slayer Alive aren't the same as

1059
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,920
they were in nineteen eighty six or even nineteen ninety

1060
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,840
four or whatever. And I'm sure to some degree that's true.

1061
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,800
But fucking inverted Crosses made the fire and they're playing

1062
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:25,000
disciple into jihad and whatever else.

1063
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just a fucking killing machine. And more so,

1064
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,599
like you know, because judas Priest jo Seamen, You're like,

1065
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:32,880
this is still brilliant, this is still fun. These guys

1066
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
are like some of they're pushing seventy, they're over seventy,

1067
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:37,639
and they're they're crushing iron mane like hearing the reports

1068
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:39,800
back from the run for your live stores, that just

1069
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,480
sounds like the best time Slayer. They are like the

1070
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:48,440
oldest band that I can think of who are still

1071
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,280
like frightening when they get into their violent and some

1072
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,280
of it is that kind of cartoonish heavy metal thing

1073
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,159
where you're like, Marshall Stacks are Raisings who inverted crossed

1074
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,840
the perst into Flames. Yeah, please, Like, I don't care

1075
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,079
if you think that's silly. You look at that set

1076
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:05,760
list which I have up in front of me now,

1077
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,239
opening with South of Heaven, as you already said, Baller Move,

1078
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,519
Repentless Disciple, Died by the Sword g had one of

1079
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:16,400
my favorite things that became a stable Slayer shows. But

1080
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:18,679
the way he introduces it every single time is it's

1081
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:20,320
the first time Tom speaks to the crowd, is a

1082
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,840
smile on his face. He just discarded and goes like,

1083
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,159
it's so good to be here, Like you know.

1084
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,079
Speaker 4: It's Santa's bring any of the presence two.

1085
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:33,519
Speaker 3: Second pause, what somber when that clicks in and it's

1086
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:38,280
just another run and you just like that. It's war Ensemble,

1087
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,360
chemical warfare.

1088
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: Look at the settle.

1089
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,559
Speaker 1: As I can say, I always used to think of

1090
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:44,960
the Slayer shows ending with a certain run of hits

1091
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,840
that they have largely maintained, some of them moved around obviously.

1092
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Here they've got a fucking Wicked World cover at one

1093
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,599
point in the ending run, and like two, one, three

1094
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:55,559
and some other like weird pools going in there. But

1095
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:59,360
Slayer B and that band who have those songs where

1096
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,280
they can go, yeah Disciples near the very fucking beginning. Yeah,

1097
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,159
just a little bit of the way into the set

1098
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:08,800
is where you're getting war ensemble into chemical warfare. There

1099
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,039
will never be another Slayer. It's just special, isn't it.

1100
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like the songs they could throw out where

1101
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,480
you know, it's their first shows back in the UK

1102
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,360
and six years they could just do the same settluser

1103
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,440
as last year. And then we got the first Spirit

1104
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,320
in Black performance in nearly ten years and the way

1105
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,719
that pops off, and we didn't get the Wicked World thing,

1106
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,519
which is why it was such a surprise at the

1107
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,880
Sabbath show. I think we got black magic instead. I've

1108
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,000
seen that three times already. I don't care, I don't

1109
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,119
I wouldn't swap it for anything in the world.

1110
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: And from ten out of ten heavy metal debut.

1111
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: Literally, yes, a perfect song on a perfect album, the

1112
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:47,039
second best Slayer album.

1113
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 5: But album, let's not fights, there's no I'm sorry, So

1114
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,960
what are you are you having overseasons in the Abyss? Yeah,

1115
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,039
obviously insane, the.

1116
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,559
Speaker 4: Unbelievable insane behavior.

1117
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 3: We'll I have this, we can have this discussion and

1118
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,920
your your education will come another day.

1119
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: But the best Layer album.

1120
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: But the thing is you're saying, like all the run

1121
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,559
at the end, like dead skin Mask hours moved way up,

1122
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,119
and that's in the middle Mandatory Suit, like Chemical Warfare

1123
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:23,079
that was like song seven, and then in between that

1124
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,639
and many Suicide is Reborn. You're like, what the fuck

1125
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,599
am I even seeing right now? And then even the

1126
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:29,360
last season in the abys is always a bit where

1127
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,199
you go right entering business end. Yeah, you know it's

1128
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:36,880
going to be hell awaits postwar, some raining blood, all

1129
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,159
of those songs. And even then, just when you're like

1130
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,320
getting into the groove of I kind of know what

1131
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,519
songs are coming, they throw out a two to one

1132
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,400
three and I was like, I don't think, I don't

1133
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,719
know if I've seen Slayer do that song. So like,

1134
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:49,800
as much as this is the oh, you know, they're

1135
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,559
just trusting out as an exhibition show. They're still making

1136
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,880
the efforts to give you songs which are going to

1137
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,960
kind of knock you off your heels.

1138
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 5: Because that was one of the things that made me

1139
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,280
want to go to this is when I saw those

1140
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:01,519
setless from that US one and so they were pulling

1141
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:04,440
out like deeper cuts. I was like, do you know

1142
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:06,920
what that's justified this Slay reunion for me already? If

1143
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,880
they if they're you know, making it more interesting. And then,

1144
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,360
like I say, in London, when they've done that Runner

1145
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,800
song and then when that Wicked World cover side, I

1146
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:16,400
genuinely didn't know what was going on for a second,

1147
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,159
so I was like, why is there doing the jazz solo?

1148
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:20,599
Speaker 4: And I was like, fucking Sabbath.

1149
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker 5: Of course, when the song actually started, I was like

1150
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,639
that makes so much sense now. And then doing that

1151
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,039
into post mortem, I was like, I was like, well, okay,

1152
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,360
we're going into rain and Blood now.

1153
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,039
Speaker 1: And I love that they decided to do it again,

1154
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:33,559
like I love that they clear it well, we've taken

1155
00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:35,639
so much, We've got so much work into working out

1156
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,000
on Sabber cover. We're not going to only play at

1157
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,639
the Sabbath day. We're going to subject these people who've

1158
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:41,480
just come to see us.

1159
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,519
Speaker 4: It was really cool though, Yeah, Like.

1160
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 5: I was so ready for Dundon Dunn after Post one

1161
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:50,880
finished and then we got the rest of the Wicked one.

1162
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 4: I was like, fine, and then we've got d.

1163
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: It was it was such like it was It was

1164
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,880
a jenne, a moment of like levity in a s

1165
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,159
where you know, they'd been playing dead skin masks and

1166
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,039
the screens were just serial killers yeah and shit like that,

1167
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,079
and like all just like war imagery and like blasphemous

1168
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:12,760
shit all over the screens all the whole set. And

1169
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
then for Wicked World cover it was like funky green

1170
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,360
and orange lights and everyone was getting a bit spacey.

1171
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,400
And then Raining Blood were just the most fire ever,

1172
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,920
the screens, you know, dyed red with Raining Blood red

1173
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,239
fireworks dropping off the top of the stage, like just

1174
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,840
the most metal shit ever.

1175
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 4: And then what they even do the solo for Raining Blood.

1176
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,119
It's just like into Angel of Death.

1177
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, so we're not getting the

1178
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,760
crazy solo in the Rain and Blood, but just seamlessly

1179
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,920
locking into that riffed Angel of Death.

1180
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, can't fuck with Slayer. They are

1181
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:46,800
the greatest.

1182
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: Angel of Death coming in was the weirdest feeling because

1183
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:51,280
when I had it last time, it was like, this

1184
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,360
is the last Slayer song I'm ever going to see,

1185
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:55,280
and the last one I'm going to see this song

1186
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,679
in particularly played live, and this was the weird thing.

1187
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,079
While I was going this is the first time I've

1188
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:01,000
heard it played in six years, and it also might

1189
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:03,920
be the last time, so I was almost even more

1190
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:07,159
frenzied at it. And it got to the second arm,

1191
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,079
I was like, I can't go to my grave having

1192
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:13,639
not crowdsurfed to Angel of Death. So I was like,

1193
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,119
has to happen. So I get up and I'm going

1194
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:20,920
over and the security I'm not gonna blame them, but

1195
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:24,760
it is their fault. They they sort of caught me

1196
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,679
a bit funny and I landed. I went over my

1197
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,480
ankle and Jesus wept the paint, but it meant I

1198
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:33,480
got to sit on the ground for ten seconds before

1199
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:37,119
I got escorted up and just look I had. Basically,

1200
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:39,599
I was side stage wankering the Slayer show because my

1201
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:43,400
ankle hurt, and in many ways it felt like the

1202
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:45,480
right thing to happen because it meant I could slowly

1203
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,599
limp out of the front bit, but I did it

1204
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:50,400
backwards so I could just get a real close view

1205
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:56,639
of Slayer and man maybe like in terms of the

1206
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,159
greatest metal songs ever, obviously it doesn't need saying like

1207
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,440
it's in the absolute top top top echelon and it's

1208
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,719
still played with an outrageous amount of power. I mean,

1209
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,280
Tom Royce, is he sixty four or sixty five or

1210
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:16,360
something like? Slayer are old guys now, and it just

1211
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,440
it still sounds like a fucking eruption going off in

1212
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:20,880
your face.

1213
00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 5: Kerry King's a fucking machine, like he is like imposing

1214
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:27,480
on that stage, and when you're doing that like full

1215
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,199
body sort of head bangs or twizz with his guitar,

1216
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,440
like like he is trying to like head butter war

1217
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:34,159
and destroy it.

1218
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's fucking Slayer.

1219
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 5: I know they might hate each of an hour apparently

1220
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,880
maybe allegedly, but they were on stage being that fucking

1221
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,679
band for like ninety minutes and I was like, yeah,

1222
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,800
I can ignore the behind the scenes bullshit.

1223
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:50,039
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me. I don't need Slayer to like

1224
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:53,239
each other. I need those four guys to know to

1225
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,960
destroy Yeah, to destroy to know, they need each other

1226
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,119
to come out and do just that, and if they

1227
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,360
want to do it again, they can have another hundred

1228
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,039
quid forever.

1229
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1230
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:05,559
Speaker 1: For the record, show No Mercy is not a on

1231
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,320
the podium Slayer album, but it is one of their complete,

1232
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:14,920
unassailable classics, and arguing that it is for the same

1233
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,039
losers who don't think kill them all as real Metallica.

1234
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:21,519
Back to the present episode, So that was Samon Elliott

1235
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:24,039
talking about all things Slayer as well as a bit

1236
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:26,199
of Sabbath. I am a little bit jealous of them

1237
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,440
for the big Slayer occasion. And you know, obviously anybody

1238
00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:32,360
out there who is listening who actually was in person

1239
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,280
attending the Sabbath show, I know I said that I

1240
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,760
wasn't like overwhelmingly bursting with a sense of regret for

1241
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,000
not shelling out for whatever that price ticket was or whatever.

1242
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:46,480
But I do as I was saying, I trust everybody

1243
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,679
had an absolutely incredib occasion. It is genuinely heavy metal

1244
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,880
history and genuine memory for life shit. So yeah, everybody,

1245
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,039
he went, I hope it was fucking great. I'm sure

1246
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,800
it was. I'm sure that everybody did feel that way

1247
00:57:58,039 --> 00:57:59,960
about it. I am back here on the other side

1248
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,320
of that to close out this hyperblast with the weekly

1249
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,039
releases that everybody comes here for. But before I do that,

1250
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,360
I do want to let everybody know what's been going

1251
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,159
on on the that's not Patreon this week and in

1252
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:13,320
the past week and in the upcoming week as well,

1253
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,920
because it has been considering what we were just saying

1254
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,559
at the start of that chat there, and as we

1255
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:21,199
have said, for the past few weeks, one of the

1256
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,119
most unbelievably absurd busy. I mean June alone, I think

1257
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:27,760
was one of the busiest months of my life in

1258
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,639
terms of traveling and going just for like big events

1259
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,480
and stuff like that. So it has been again completely

1260
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:36,239
carston on the table. It has been quite hard actually

1261
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,360
getting for three of us who do the specials and

1262
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,880
so on together in the same place. So we've not

1263
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,360
been quite as like fully productive as I would hope. Butts,

1264
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,360
we are going to try and very much climb back

1265
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,960
atop that horse. And the first thing that we did

1266
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,960
to address that was getting out the Adam Club pack

1267
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,960
that we promised that we were going to get out there.

1268
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,400
We recorded that when we recorded that little bit of

1269
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,599
chat there on the Slayer and Sabbath shows, and so

1270
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,119
what you're hearing there is the aftermath of us having

1271
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:07,280
absolutely exhausted our mind capabilities by talking about the four

1272
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,000
album clubs that we had laid out there, where the

1273
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:11,559
first one I think certainly did a lot of the

1274
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:15,280
heavy lifting in that regard. It was a long coming chat.

1275
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,840
I think about twenty one Pilots and their twenty fifteen

1276
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,719
album Blurry Face, which, if you were following the face

1277
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,760
of what was being made out to me the face

1278
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,559
of alternative music in the mid twenty tens and in

1279
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:33,280
twenty fifteen, that is an album and a band that

1280
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,480
I think they very much divide opinion. I'm sure that

1281
00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:39,480
a lot of people listening have feelings about them, whether

1282
00:59:39,559 --> 00:59:42,000
they be positive or I know in a lot of

1283
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:47,000
cases negative as well. And going back to essentially like

1284
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,639
ragga pop album like Oh my God, there is so

1285
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,760
much reggae. It is the most reggae without us going

1286
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,679
and doing a Bad Brains album where they just have

1287
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,079
lots of actual reggae bits in it, it's the most

1288
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:03,880
reggae talking about on album club and it's it's insane

1289
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:05,719
how much we had to talk about reggie on there.

1290
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,360
But we did, and Sam, I know, had a lot

1291
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,840
of turmoil actually going through and just revisiting that time.

1292
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,599
So hopefully it was worth it for Sam. Hopefully we

1293
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:18,039
can make it all worth it by putting that chat

1294
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:19,960
out there for you, and I hope that everybody appreciates

1295
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:22,960
a blast from the past in that kind of way.

1296
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:25,639
We then continued on my attempt to man O War

1297
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:28,599
pill everyone, particularly maybe again Sam off the back of

1298
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:32,519
that by talking about their debut album, Battle Hymns, which

1299
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,400
I start that chat by talking about how the word

1300
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:39,079
man O War absolutely conjures a kind of gut reaction

1301
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,840
in people, whether they're again similar to twenty More Pilots

1302
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,840
in some ways, whether they love them or hate them,

1303
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,960
or even know very little about them. But if you

1304
01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:49,599
are someone who knows very little about them, this I

1305
01:00:49,679 --> 01:00:52,440
think is the chat for you, because I think conveying

1306
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,760
the man O ar ethos from their first album where

1307
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,679
they start out where they're not necessarily full man O

1308
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:00,599
War as we know them, but we can see the

1309
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,440
through line of how they become that, and it involves

1310
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,840
some absolutely incredible metal songs and some baffling how did

1311
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,400
they even get this or have access to that Guy

1312
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:17,800
on their debut album Stuff. Then we spoke about Turnover's

1313
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,719
Peripheral Vision, which is probably my favorite of that kind

1314
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,280
of emo boom of the early to mid twenty ten,

1315
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,679
certainly the ones who went in the dream pop shoegazy direction.

1316
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,760
We spoke about all the things that they get right

1317
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,639
to exemplify how in that time period of bands kind

1318
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:38,760
of following that trend and going for the shoegazy email

1319
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:41,159
e rock thing, many of them making people roll their

1320
01:01:41,159 --> 01:01:42,760
eyes and go, oh, I wish you weren't doing this.

1321
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,440
You were more interesting when you weren't just a reverby Mushball.

1322
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:48,599
How did Turnover get it's so right to make an

1323
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:51,320
album that, as we say in the chat, has never

1324
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,039
actually gone away. This tenth anniversary thing they're doing isn't

1325
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:56,760
really nostalgia to the same degree. It's just people have

1326
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,599
never stopped listening or loving that album. We go into that,

1327
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,800
and then we closed by speaking about an album.

1328
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: That I I of the Lot.

1329
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously I want everyone to go and

1330
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:09,760
become completely manner war obsessed, But of the Lot, this

1331
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,440
is the one that I really want to like make

1332
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:13,679
new fans out of because it's by far the smallest

1333
01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:15,760
record of the bunch, but it's by one of my

1334
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,320
favorite rock bands, not metal band, I would be pained

1335
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,840
even to kind of point out, but one of my

1336
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,760
favorite rock bands ever, certainly in the twenty first century,

1337
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,360
The Devil's Blood and what made their record Time of

1338
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,519
No Time Anymore a record that helped really establish and

1339
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,960
initiate the kind of retro occult rock thing. But we

1340
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,840
speak about how kind of above and beyond that, you know,

1341
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,079
simple terminology the Devil Blood really were and how special

1342
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:46,280
they were in the impact that they had on musicians

1343
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,519
who you likely will know and have a relationship with.

1344
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,320
So those are the album clubs that we went in

1345
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,239
depth about. I think it was a really fine episode

1346
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,960
to two there and following that, hot on the heels

1347
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:02,199
of it, this up coming we are going to be

1348
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,840
reviving something that I think we missed last year for

1349
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,320
whatever reason, we didn't have the window for it, but

1350
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,199
we absolutely have the window for it right now. We

1351
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:13,039
are going to be reviving the summer album Roulette because

1352
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,519
Sam right now is at two thousand Trees Festival. Sam

1353
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:19,039
will have a report from two thousand Trees Festival next week.

1354
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:22,519
But while Sam is a way that the kids will play,

1355
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:25,239
because me, Mark and Elliott are going to be taking

1356
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:28,280
to the summer and roulette this time around.

1357
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,239
Speaker 2: Talking about the.

1358
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,599
Speaker 1: Record that soundtrack are sweltering. I know the weather has

1359
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:34,199
been up and then down and then up again. I

1360
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,840
think we might be on the up again, so this

1361
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,760
will be the perfect time to do it, and that

1362
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,320
is going to be coming this weekend. While two thousand

1363
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,679
trees it is happening. We have in that selection classic

1364
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:48,760
English punk, some of the most quintessential sunny day music.

1365
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,119
Maybe in that regard, we have sun Bake made even

1366
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,840
sunburned metal for you for all the people want that

1367
01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:59,760
metal summer. And we have a couple of conversations long

1368
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,239
in the making about maybe the best classic rock to

1369
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,719
grill to, dependent on what you ask, featuring the return

1370
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:11,800
of a certain mister Universe and a twenty twenty five

1371
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,920
T and M special coverage favorite as well. So that

1372
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:18,440
is going to be coming this weekend, right after you

1373
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,519
are hearing this Hyperblast episode. So if you want to

1374
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:25,280
hear those episodes and just such fun we're having discussed

1375
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,880
and all those records, Patreon dot com slash that's no

1376
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,719
matter that the place to be that is the place

1377
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,519
where essentially TNM gets its life blood and it's forced

1378
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:37,800
to continue on from the generosity of everyone who supports

1379
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,360
us and keeps us afloat. If you want to support

1380
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,320
us another way, then, as I have mentioned on some episodes,

1381
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,960
just going out and giving us a rating on your

1382
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:49,440
podcast listening the platform of choice, or preferably a review

1383
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:51,760
as well would be fantastic because that helps us tap

1384
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,639
into the algorithms and get put in front of new listeners.

1385
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,079
So cheers everybody who does that. Let's just finish this

1386
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,159
episode by giving you the handl of releases that are

1387
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:05,599
coming out this Friday, the eleventh of July July. As

1388
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:07,480
I said last week, it tends to be a sort

1389
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,639
of down a period, so there's not the most high

1390
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:12,039
profile releases, but there are a few that I've sought

1391
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:14,360
out and found for you here. So first of all,

1392
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,199
there is Split Chain, who are one of those kind

1393
01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:21,119
of upcoming alternative rock adjacent to hardcore, but basically it's

1394
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:24,599
you know, death tones e nineties alternative rock, as that

1395
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,079
tends to be the trend right now. They've got a

1396
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:28,719
record out called Motion Blur. Then there is an Act

1397
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:30,639
to I'm not very familiar with. But someone called Calva

1398
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,159
Louise with a record called Edge of the Abyss, and

1399
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,800
this I think is it's almost coming from that alt

1400
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,840
pop thing, but there's a bit more industrial I think

1401
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,719
I can from what I can tell and kind of gather.

1402
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,079
The track I listened to even had a little bit

1403
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:43,719
of a synth wavy flavor to it, So that record

1404
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,280
is out.

1405
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: There for you.

1406
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:48,159
Speaker 1: Then there is a metalcore band, a new medical band

1407
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,800
called Dead seven, which maybe are not helping themselves. They

1408
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,719
probably aren't aware of this, but their name rhymes with

1409
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,400
shed seven, which does not have I don't know a

1410
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,000
lot of metal core points attached to it, but they

1411
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:00,400
have a very very long album title called what you

1412
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,800
Can While You've Still Got Something Left to Love. Then

1413
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:07,079
out on Earache Records, there is a band called Ward sixteen.

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I think that's the Roman numeral there with a record

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called Identity where they're three where the E is and

1416
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,840
this is spooky clown metal. I guess I'm just gonna

1417
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describe it like that and then move on. But they

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are out there.

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Speaker 2: Then the tech death.

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Speaker 1: Core band I guess if that's what they are still

1421
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:26,639
kind of plugging these days, Born of a Cyrus back

1422
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,159
with a record called Through Shadows Again, while just like

1423
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:33,159
peeking around finding releases for this week, there's a UK

1424
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:37,440
stoner rock band called Margarita, which cult called strung it

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01:06:37,519 --> 01:06:39,400
in Hell. I don't know if they are meaning the

1426
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,840
cocktails or the pizza, but I'm sure the witches are

1427
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having a great time either way. And then finally coming

1428
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,960
out of the undergrounds of death metal. This is a

1429
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:49,000
kind of interesting palette of a record that I'm going

1430
01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:51,119
to investigate a little bit further, which from a band

1431
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called Floating Who. I think I've had them on Hypoblast before,

1432
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,639
but their record, Hesitating Lights, seems to be exploring further

1433
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,760
into a crossover of kind of like underground progressive death

1434
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,039
metal with some post punk flavor in there as well,

1435
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:06,400
which is not a combination you might, you know, expect

1436
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to hear too often. So I think that's an interesting

1437
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:09,480
one to check out this weekend.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening, Thank you for joining us

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for the again the Slayer and Sabbath chats. Thank you

1441
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:16,800
for joining us if you are looking to do so

1442
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:20,679
on our Patreon conversation about those album clubs. The upcoming

1443
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one we will have this week about the summer album Roulette,

1444
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,320
and we will be back here next week in the

1445
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aftermath of two Thousand Trees, and then following that we

1446
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:33,119
will have more reviews for you, going really in depth

1447
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:36,599
on what records we decided to pull together from recent

1448
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:39,199
weeks to really kind of go in there on. So

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cheers everybody for being with us. We'll see you there

1450
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:42,559
for all of that.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye