Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another edition of Video Games to
Speaker 1: the Max. I'm your host Seaun Grammery with me as usual,
Speaker 1: mister Mark Morrison. All right, well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: if you didn't know already, I'm sure everybody you know
Speaker 1: you heard the big commotion over this last weekend with
Speaker 1: PSN going now. So if you're was one of those
Speaker 1: that were affected, I don't know. Were you trying to
Speaker 1: play anything on your PSN?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Diablo and Infinite Nikki Anythinnite and Nikki and
Speaker 2: neither one of those worked.
Speaker 1: That's I'm sure that was frustrating for you. I couldn't
Speaker 1: play a certain game I can't talk about yet. That
Speaker 1: was really frustrating because it was like the day that
Speaker 1: I could play it because I think the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: was coming on Sunday and I couldn't. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be able to touch it. But all right, I
Speaker 1: guess I have to keep waiting. Thankfully, it came back
Speaker 1: up by the time we got to like, you know,
Speaker 1: Sunday for people, or like late Saturday if you're in
Speaker 1: the West Coast or East coast. You know, I'd also
Speaker 1: affect another We're gonna talk about the Capcom Showcase also
Speaker 1: affected Monster hutter Wild's beta, so we'll talk about that too.
Speaker 1: PlayStations also apparently taking down the spam games mark Finnished
Speaker 1: Sniper Elite relicence Resistance I got to play. I think
Speaker 1: what's probably gonna be my final run through of the
Speaker 1: most I want to get through on Tales of Iron two.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry I said the wrong name of the
Speaker 1: game last week, So I'm sorry to the devs for
Speaker 1: giving it the wrong name. But it is Tales of
Speaker 1: Iron two. I'll talk about that, and then we will
Speaker 1: talk about some other things. Nintendo gave hints at what
Speaker 1: the switch to my cost, or at least the things
Speaker 1: they're considering as to you know, what it's important to
Speaker 1: them when they're looking at the price. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: this is not this is probably like the lightest week
Speaker 1: on news we've had in a while, which is kind
Speaker 1: of interesting, but still got a few things, So let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and talk about our video games here. So
Speaker 1: you finished Snapper Elite with Resistance.
Speaker 2: Yep, finish it with the ends. It is what it is,
Speaker 2: you know, about eight missions of like fairly big areas
Speaker 2: and then the last mission is like a really stupid,
Speaker 2: very short chase that lasts a minute, you know.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: It has some annoying problems though with co op where
Speaker 2: like so collectibles are shared between me and him, so
Speaker 2: if I pick something up in my like, if I
Speaker 2: pick something up, it counts to them. Also, that's cool
Speaker 2: except for the work benches, which don't count at all,
Speaker 2: even though it says he picked him up, so he
Speaker 2: has access to all the weapons and stuff that you
Speaker 2: get from him, but not the actual like it doesn't
Speaker 2: count for the trophy, so that's kind of annoying. Like
Speaker 2: and even in like the main the the like service record,
Speaker 2: it will say like, oh, you got three other three
Speaker 2: work benches, but he didn't. He has to interact with
Speaker 2: him for that for unlock and his like for the trophy.
Speaker 2: But yep, it's still good, strip E late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's good that at least it uh
Speaker 1: works for you there, So yeah for being a yeah.
Speaker 2: And we're going to replay the levels too and get
Speaker 2: all the unlockables and crap.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The only other thing I started messing with a little
Speaker 2: is I started looking up seven rebirth mods, so that'll
Speaker 2: be fun. Well, a lot of the the ones I'm
Speaker 2: I'm interested in are like basically eliminating the crafting requirements
Speaker 2: but that I don't transmit it theater thing or like
Speaker 2: giving you good weapons like max status of the weapons
Speaker 2: as far as the materia and the ability thing.
Speaker 1: But they're the easier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are a whole host of ones that
Speaker 2: are like yep, like not nude mods per se, but
Speaker 2: like removing the skirt from like Erith's swimsuit costume, or
Speaker 2: like there was one that was like a wet skin
Speaker 2: mod for Tifa, And I said, you you people have
Speaker 2: too much time on your hands, like you need to
Speaker 2: get a girlfriend somehow, like for it or I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't know. We need
Speaker 1: just some people, you know. They just I don't understand
Speaker 1: why that's you want to play the game that way.
Speaker 1: I guess you want to put it out there for
Speaker 1: other nefarious reasons, perhaps, yeah, make it easier for the
Speaker 1: for for other things to be used for that right,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure is the the main driver of why
Speaker 1: they don't. Uh ha. Magushi said, you know, they kind
Speaker 1: of attacked him for, you know, kind of saying that
Speaker 1: he was trying to like censor people and what they do.
Speaker 1: And he's like, look, I understand the importance of ods,
Speaker 1: just kind of saying, you know, be tasteful about it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know, people are not you got those uh not
Speaker 1: going to do that. That's what they've been waiting on
Speaker 1: when it comes to the game being on PC. This happened.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like the one, the other one is like
Speaker 2: unlocking all the folio skill points and all the like.
Speaker 1: Nodes, having that at the beginning basically, so you.
Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, I don't. I don't like that system much
Speaker 2: at all actually in the game. And then yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I'm in the Golden Saucer right now and that
Speaker 2: thing I'm going through it.
Speaker 1: But Charley, Yeah, that's what, like, are you talking about
Speaker 1: the first time in the Saucer. Yeah, that's still a
Speaker 1: pretty good ways. Well, I mean you're not having to
Speaker 1: do any of the stuff that actually takes up the time,
Speaker 1: which is the side quest.
Speaker 2: And the I'm doing most of those still you're.
Speaker 1: Still doing those even though you already experienced that once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I just don't like, I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of time wasts and stuff in that game that
Speaker 2: I'm like, this could have. You need an editor somewhere
Speaker 2: in this thing, like the whole Mount Coral bullshit, Like
Speaker 2: getting to the town is fine, but like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the mine, I actually had to use a guide
Speaker 1: to get through that because I got lost. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the whole circles thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's plating up the team where like you know,
Speaker 2: Barrett and you you fee like do this whole like
Speaker 2: dumb grappling hook bullshit and go down the mine cart
Speaker 2: and it's like this, you didn't need to do this
Speaker 2: at all, like you did just like ha, gone through
Speaker 2: this directly or you know, like this wasn't an the
Speaker 2: original game. You guys made it for this so well.
Speaker 1: I mean it was all about extending it, Like I
Speaker 1: get the idea. Just yeah, it felt like like you said,
Speaker 1: they didn't they wanted it to give you as much
Speaker 1: as they possibly could and then kind of just went
Speaker 1: like let's just go crazy.
Speaker 2: All right, right, and I'm thinking about picking up a
Speaker 2: copy of Zeno Gear soon.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I never played before, but yeah, I've heard one of
Speaker 2: the better RPGs for the PS one.
Speaker 1: So all right. I was surprised. I thought you would
Speaker 1: have had that of it.
Speaker 2: No, I never played it. A lot of the square
Speaker 2: stuff can never never played back in the day, like
Speaker 2: Threads of Fate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff that I never
Speaker 1: played either.
Speaker 2: I played some of it, and I don't like, you know,
Speaker 2: I played Air Guys and the guy played that.
Speaker 1: But all right, I guess I will talk about the
Speaker 1: one game I've been playing, Tels of Iron two. It
Speaker 1: is very much a sequel to the first game, which
Speaker 1: I talked about on here too, just like discovering in
Speaker 1: that January period where I didn't have a game that
Speaker 1: I was really playing and talking about how I liked it,
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that I could perhaps review this game. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like they decided to let's make
Speaker 1: it bigger and not better for everything. I don't really
Speaker 1: understand why. For me, this is still an indie title
Speaker 1: and I don't need it to be this. They made
Speaker 1: it like twice the side. So like the first game
Speaker 1: was like eight to ten hours, this game is sixteen
Speaker 1: to twenty hours, depending on how much of the extra
Speaker 1: stuff you do. And it's just like I didn't really
Speaker 1: need that, so, you know, I would have preferred and
Speaker 1: like I didn't really need them to, oh, let me
Speaker 1: make the base and do put things into the base,
Speaker 1: and I then have to, you know, keep up keeping
Speaker 1: the smithy and the chef and all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: like the crafting got like overloaded, and I would have
Speaker 1: been fine with just you know, make the combat, do
Speaker 1: add more things to the combat, just to you know,
Speaker 1: make it to where it's not the same. You can
Speaker 1: make the world bigger if you want. There is fast travel, thankfully,
Speaker 1: which there's like signposts that you have to find throughout
Speaker 1: the world and if they're not working, you basically have
Speaker 1: to make them work and so that you can use
Speaker 1: fast travel and reverse yeah, kind of like that. Essentially
Speaker 1: you have to like rebuild it so that you can
Speaker 1: then use it. It's it works well.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The combat is was obviously a main draw from the
Speaker 1: first game, and they nailed that again here it's it's Souls,
Speaker 1: except you know there's obviously there's way more say points.
Speaker 1: It's not like Souls where you die and all your
Speaker 1: stuff is gone and you have to go back to
Speaker 1: that section. Like, it's not exactly like that. It just
Speaker 1: has like the brutal combat where you know you kind
Speaker 1: of have to know window perry and wind to dodge,
Speaker 1: and it does tell you it has a little yellow
Speaker 1: and red markers, but there's times where they don't tell
Speaker 1: you and you can obviously put it on a harder
Speaker 1: difficulty if you don't want to tell you at all
Speaker 1: and you want to like be guessing. But the first
Speaker 1: couple of bosses I had to it took me a
Speaker 1: while to figure out, like the timing window, and it's
Speaker 1: actually not it has a nice timing window. It's not
Speaker 1: a terrible It's like not that hard to figure out.
Speaker 1: It's just I figured out that it's like, okay, block
Speaker 1: is block for certain things, and it actually wants you
Speaker 1: to parry, which is you know, both of the triggers
Speaker 1: or I use the tabs because it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to do it that way. Uh, I like using you know,
Speaker 1: I'm playing on Xbox, so I like using LB and
Speaker 1: RB instead of the LT and RT, which it defaults
Speaker 1: to the triggers. Just because I've always had this thing
Speaker 1: of like I remember on was it on PlayStation, I
Speaker 1: just felt weird, like thinking the triggers are gonna fall
Speaker 1: off playing like the WW games where you're like constantly
Speaker 1: wrestling all the time. So like when it came out
Speaker 1: with the TAZ where I feel like there's more security
Speaker 1: in uh, they're not going anywhere. So I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of like, all right, I'll I'll just move into this,
Speaker 1: but the story is it's still you know, hey, we're
Speaker 1: doing Game of Thrones with rats and frogs and you know,
Speaker 1: dragons and whatever, but without obviously all that drama and stuff.
Speaker 1: It has sort of a setting and it is a
Speaker 1: different character this time than the first game, so they're
Speaker 1: not really they're not continuing it that way. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of similar things. And again the world's bigger and
Speaker 1: more bosses, more side quests, more stuff. So have you
Speaker 1: liked the first game? This is twenty bucks twenty yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty bucks. Again, I think if you loved the first game,
Speaker 1: I definitely would give this a shot. You're gonna like
Speaker 1: this one unless you just don't like any of the
Speaker 1: stuff that they added, which again I think I still
Speaker 1: think for getting what you loved about that game, for
Speaker 1: the most part, I still think it's worth what it is.
Speaker 1: And if you like the hard combat games, this is
Speaker 1: definitely one for you. And it's it's been fun to
Speaker 1: like kind of play a game that I normally play
Speaker 1: that much. Ever so it's like challenging myself to do
Speaker 1: to play something different, which is it's good. Obviously, probably
Speaker 1: not a great decision to do it when you're like
Speaker 1: in a timing window with reviews, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that I didn't have to like beat embargo for
Speaker 1: this because that probably wouldn't have been great for me
Speaker 1: frustration wise. But still it's I think even if you're
Speaker 1: not like the biggest Souls fan, if the world and
Speaker 1: the all the other stuff I intrigue you, this might
Speaker 1: be one to kind of check out and maybe ease
Speaker 1: you in to how that combat works or whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely worth checking out for those that like the first
Speaker 1: game or might be in my indie games and definitely
Speaker 1: want to do that. I think next week. Technically the
Speaker 1: embargos after next week, so I have to look and
Speaker 1: see if I can actually talk about it next week.
Speaker 1: The embarger for the game I can't talk about it's
Speaker 1: like the twentieth, so it maybe a few weeks until
Speaker 1: I can talk about that game per se. But it's
Speaker 1: definitely one we have both said that we're looking forward to.
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. So, yeah, that's it for
Speaker 1: the games we're playing here. Let's go ahead and get
Speaker 1: into the news. Talking about news here we mentioned it.
Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot from Sony's end about why
Speaker 1: Playsession Network went down, and then also like why it
Speaker 1: was down for that long except for what I'm saying, it
Speaker 1: was an operational issue and that's it, right, eighteen hours.
Speaker 1: It's not the what was it three months that time?
Speaker 1: And like way back in the day they did it
Speaker 1: went down. Yes, yeah, it wasn't that, but it also
Speaker 1: wasn't a few hours either. It was definitely felt by people, right,
Speaker 1: lots of anger online.
Speaker 2: And gamers being anger. Now you're just fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh. That's the time where I was like people complaining,
Speaker 1: maybe we do need to touch grass because you know, hey,
Speaker 1: go outside, do something, go find things to do. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Uh see, y'all folks that
Speaker 1: that that have multiple games are multiple systems, like me,
Speaker 1: you could just go play your Xbox instead, or play
Speaker 1: your Switch or whatever. And so then obviously if you're
Speaker 1: wanting to play that Mold Monster Hunter Wild's beta, that
Speaker 1: definitely affected you. So you know, I'm sorry for those
Speaker 1: that that had to deal with not being able to
Speaker 1: play your with your friends on that because considering what
Speaker 1: we can we're in or we're in. Uh probably maybe
Speaker 1: perhaps a lot of your friends were watching the super
Speaker 1: Bowl on Sunday and you weren't going to have that
Speaker 1: opportunity on Sunday to play or hang out, but they
Speaker 1: are extending that beta due to the PSN being down,
Speaker 1: So that's good on Capcom's part. I know you said
Speaker 1: you were trying to play a game during this. Did
Speaker 1: you see any of the the crazy upset people online?
Speaker 2: No? I just kind of like log in and then
Speaker 2: both games kind of bombed out. And then I was
Speaker 2: like I looked online and I was like okay, and
Speaker 2: like I personally I could like I could go online,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't actually do anything like might you know
Speaker 2: the little said it was like appearing offline and then
Speaker 2: I flipped it to online. I was like, I didn't
Speaker 2: set that, and then like it would be like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're online, but I just, you know, it's just like okay.
Speaker 2: But like I try to like play Assassin Speed Valhalla
Speaker 2: like an online part of that kind of and it
Speaker 2: would be like, yeah, there's no server or like online,
Speaker 2: you know, there's something wrong, And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 1: I can just come back to it later. Like it
Speaker 1: ain't a huge deal. Yeah, I mean the problem is
Speaker 1: that you know, unfortunately, unfortunately, uh, we're like having to
Speaker 1: deal with this stuff just suddenly happening, you know, right,
Speaker 1: and so it's one of those things where like you
Speaker 1: can't really do anything about it. You just kind of
Speaker 1: gotta like keep dealing with it, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it keeps going longer and longer. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: did they get hit by a d D S D
Speaker 1: d OS attack like before? And nobody's doing anything about
Speaker 1: it or saying anything about it, you know.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you saw the MVG put
Speaker 2: up a video about like this is a problem with
Speaker 2: digital only consoles or you know, like the whole because
Speaker 2: like you do you even have a PS high with
Speaker 2: a discrive?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine has the discribe.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean you do, but young here's a PS
Speaker 2: five pro and he doesn't.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh he didn't get the disc no
Speaker 1: with okay.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, what does he do because like,
Speaker 2: technically I'm signed into it, like technically my PS five
Speaker 2: like I sai, is it the primary one? Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: So he couldn't, like I don't know if he did, thankfully,
Speaker 2: but even if he wanted to, he couldn't play any games.
Speaker 1: So wasn't that the fix though that apparently if you're
Speaker 1: signed in as the primary, oh, because you don't own
Speaker 1: the game, so you couldn't, right, yeah, but if you
Speaker 1: would be, you would have been able to play anything
Speaker 1: you owned as long as it was the primary. That
Speaker 1: was the problem with Sony. People don't know that you
Speaker 1: have to make your console the primary order.
Speaker 2: But like he couldn't, like even if he wanted to,
Speaker 2: he couldn't make his PS five back to the primary.
Speaker 1: One, Like right, yeah, yeah, he can't because you have
Speaker 1: to be online to do that, right, So.
Speaker 2: He was I mean he didn't do it, or he
Speaker 2: didn't complain or anything, but he had have been screwed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like one of those things where what
Speaker 1: can you really do outside of just okay, now we're stuck.
Speaker 1: And I kind of understand people's frustation, but this is
Speaker 1: CASSO kind of like when your power goes out, not
Speaker 1: a whole lot you can do. You got to keep waiting.
Speaker 1: And then the people that are like so entitled that
Speaker 1: they think that you know, Sony owes them a whole
Speaker 1: month or a whole year of PSN for free, because I.
Speaker 2: Mean they're given five days. I mean, if they wanted
Speaker 2: you they could give like everyone affected, like you know,
Speaker 2: five bucks in PSN credit or ten bucks or whatever
Speaker 2: like other than that, screw yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing, Like, okay, they give you
Speaker 1: credit for the day they lost whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Five is kind of generous for them. So I was
Speaker 2: kind of surprised by that.
Speaker 1: Exactly because they really just owed them a day because
Speaker 1: that's all it was. You know, look, not not defending
Speaker 1: corporations or whatever, but it's like if this was a look,
Speaker 1: we don't they're not going to come out and say
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, right, somebody goof and the certificate.
Speaker 2: No, Bob pulled the cord out accidentally when he left
Speaker 2: for the day in the office.
Speaker 1: Like you know what happened there. Just it's one of
Speaker 1: those like weird things that you're going, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: why maybe you don't need to push the PlayStation Network
Speaker 1: signing thing on the PC games because imagine if all
Speaker 1: those other PC games that have it taken off now
Speaker 1: you're still having to sign in, you wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to use the game.
Speaker 2: All right, I think you can still use it technically,
Speaker 2: just can't like it.
Speaker 1: But but that was the point was why they couldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the problem with held Diversary was people got mad because
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they can't they can't use it right.
Speaker 1: For me, it's just I know people are going to say, well, X,
Speaker 1: we didn't have this problem. It's like, well, you never know,
Speaker 1: but it does make you worry about that all digital
Speaker 1: future that we keep running to. And of course the
Speaker 1: physical only people were just absolutely letting everyone else have
Speaker 1: it during this of like, hey, this is why you
Speaker 1: buy a physical this by physically.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's some shitty game stop like their Twitter
Speaker 2: put up the post like oh this is what Yeah,
Speaker 2: but wait, this is why I bet physical games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you're wanting physical games now, and.
Speaker 2: Then finding back with the picture of the game stop
Speaker 2: full of funk upops, It's like, what you mean like
Speaker 2: these like yeah, I mean games barely sells games anymore
Speaker 2: as it is.
Speaker 1: So exactly. They really shouldn't be poking the bear on
Speaker 1: that because they're the ones that look bad. I know
Speaker 1: that the individual stores don't control you know, the gamestock
Speaker 1: corporate told them what to put in the sore, but still,
Speaker 1: I mean that's you. You aren't doing yourself any favors
Speaker 1: there you're just waiting. You're you're essentially just waiting to
Speaker 1: get attacked. Yeah, on that, But hopefully this doesn't happen again,
Speaker 1: That's all we can say, and hopefully those that did
Speaker 1: go through it now, No, go make your ps. I'm
Speaker 1: actually got to think about that now of like go
Speaker 1: make up PlayStation in the primary, even though I don't need.
Speaker 1: I think that's the main problem too, is most people
Speaker 1: that's the only PlayStation they have, so you don't think
Speaker 1: about needing to do that at all. You just hey,
Speaker 1: I just turn it on. It's the only one I got.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. And then it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I have to actually go and do this in order
Speaker 1: so it doesn't have to read the licenses or whatever.
Speaker 1: And that is really annoying because I mean that makes
Speaker 1: it to where again, this this thing we keep rushing
Speaker 1: to of like at any moment, they can trigger that
Speaker 1: and then you're not you can't use your games that
Speaker 1: you bought. So that's that's frustrating. But hey, at least
Speaker 1: you know Tony is being nice about I guess this
Speaker 1: would be yeah to both consumers and devs who've been
Speaker 1: complaining about this for a while and Nintendo's well, but
Speaker 1: we don't know anything about like whether Nintendo's been doing this,
Speaker 1: But there have been a lot of spam games, a
Speaker 1: lot of AIG rated games, a lot of copycat games,
Speaker 1: especially if a game gets popular like on Steam, like
Speaker 1: that the one that Randy and I played a lot
Speaker 1: last year, the Supermarket Simulator. All of a sudden, there
Speaker 1: was this Supermarket simulator that was like, not the same one,
Speaker 1: but it had a similar name, and all of a sudden, oh,
Speaker 1: that's on here, and it's like, oh, that's not the
Speaker 1: one that you're supposed to be playing, and it has
Speaker 1: almost the same name and everything, and it's like that's
Speaker 1: taking away from there's people prevordering this game thinking it's
Speaker 1: the same one and it's not the same. Thing happened
Speaker 1: with that Trading Guard simulator game when it got popular,
Speaker 1: and there was like three or four of those that
Speaker 1: showed up on PSN. And there's a bunch of other
Speaker 1: AI generated games that keep getting like it takes them
Speaker 1: nothing to make it, but they make money because people
Speaker 1: have no idea that it's a copycat, right or or
Speaker 1: a fake essentially, like a fake game, and they're spending
Speaker 1: money on that, right, and dev started complaining and consumers
Speaker 1: are complaining, and finally because IGN did some kind of
Speaker 1: investigation on how Nintendo and Sony do their digital stores
Speaker 1: and that they're basically like working with very low QA
Speaker 1: for that they are underpowered, undermanned, and suffering because of it.
Speaker 1: That all of a sudden, one of the company's random
Speaker 1: spin games that's been making a lot of these games,
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of their games taken down, thankfully,
Speaker 1: So it looks like Sony's paying attention to that, saving
Speaker 1: people money in buying games that that are most likely suck.
Speaker 1: But hopefully they will do a bigger run through on that.
Speaker 1: Have you bought a.
Speaker 2: No, I always kind of check look before I buy,
Speaker 2: and then I don't really take a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: on steeming these days anyway. Or you know, the Switch,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm I.
Speaker 1: Feel like Steam it's you know, you.
Speaker 2: Get yeah, just because so much crap comes on and
Speaker 2: Steam every.
Speaker 1: Every damn day, right exactly.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, the Switch is also pretty bad at that,
Speaker 2: like the tso Sony and Xbox kind of had that
Speaker 2: problem also, but it's a little it's a little better, Yeah,
Speaker 2: some some modicum of q A or you know, but
Speaker 2: stuff like that like Mario Tennis, or I think ripoff
Speaker 2: on like PSN recently.
Speaker 1: Like Nintendo has a Last of Us rip off a
Speaker 1: really bad that's there and it's like really.
Speaker 2: Coma, you know, no Nintendo seal quality on that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and they're missing that for sure. One Thankfully,
Speaker 1: it's it's not all not all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: For Sony, there is one interesting one very similar to
Speaker 1: like you know how you see it. Did a interview
Speaker 1: with kind of funny after he are tired and left Sony.
Speaker 1: Ted Price did the same thing and he actually revealed
Speaker 1: a kind of cool nuggative information that at one point
Speaker 1: they had pitched a resistance for and Sony said no.
Speaker 1: And he said that they a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the studio had right feelings about like continuing it, and
Speaker 1: Sony just shot it down. At that point they were
Speaker 1: going in a different direction. I wonder if they would
Speaker 1: feel any different now when they have no shooter franchises
Speaker 1: and wish they did well they got Destiny, well, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's still existing.
Speaker 2: But it's not that's not like a single player game
Speaker 2: or you know, right, I don't know they should. I mean,
Speaker 2: but I think at the time, like that was a
Speaker 2: switch from basically PS three to PS four. Look how
Speaker 2: well that kills any thing?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 2: Like that wasn't great? Right, So I can kind of
Speaker 2: see there were reluctance to fund something or you know,
Speaker 2: okay that we don't like this is down old franchise or.
Speaker 1: Well I think when you got to the last game
Speaker 1: the there was a lot of diminishing returns at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There the other thing is like Resistance strett except the
Speaker 2: World on Fire either.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's but it makes sense from that perspective
Speaker 1: of why they shot it down. But it makes you
Speaker 1: like kind of go back in hindsight and go, well,
Speaker 1: what if they still had the Resistance and what if
Speaker 1: they were able to I mean, would they have had
Speaker 1: Gorilla or would they have had Horizon if they still
Speaker 1: have Resistance, you know, or I'm sorry that's cil Zone.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Would they have you know, had two different
Speaker 1: versions of of Insania, like have the team that works
Speaker 1: on Resistance and then have another team that does Spider
Speaker 1: Man and all that. Right, how would the studio have
Speaker 1: changed or been different at all if they would have
Speaker 1: kept it around? But you never know, right, like could
Speaker 1: it have been its own franchise where it's like loved,
Speaker 1: kind of like Doom where you have the okay, we
Speaker 1: lack the story stuff, but there's also the multiplayer to
Speaker 1: go play or Call of Duty, right, same kind of
Speaker 1: vein where people play for the single player, but then
Speaker 1: you're obviously staying there for the zombies and multiplayers. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's a It's one of those things like
Speaker 1: it would have been cool if Tim Price got his wish,
Speaker 1: but he says like, that's the one game that I
Speaker 1: think he said he wanted to work on before he
Speaker 1: retired again one more time, and they didn't honor. That
Speaker 1: looks like right, so but hey, he got to work
Speaker 1: on a ton of other great games, so it's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have an amazing career as far
Speaker 1: as that goes. Did you watch that Capcom showcase thing?
Speaker 2: No know what's going on?
Speaker 1: Really? I mean, yeah, they had the Monster Hunter thing separate. Honestly,
Speaker 1: the the biggest information was about the new on Musha game,
Speaker 1: and also that Ani Musha two is getting a remaster
Speaker 1: and it's everyone's favorite. Yeah, so it looks it looks
Speaker 1: cool like they showed more gameplay for it if they
Speaker 1: said they're not going to focus on it being like
Speaker 1: brutally difficult. Uh it's so that's you know, we don't
Speaker 1: need it's not going to all of a sudden be
Speaker 1: likes becoming dark Souls, right, It's it's more about just
Speaker 1: we're still going to have the action combat and that's
Speaker 1: the important question. Thank god they're not, it seems, of course.
Speaker 1: Is for Ani Musha where the sword should have mentioned. Uh,
Speaker 1: the they kind of revealed sort of the like story
Speaker 1: stuff of why he's he has the sword and how
Speaker 1: he's able to control it and everything else, which is
Speaker 1: it was neat. I guess we'll kind of have to
Speaker 1: find out more is I'm sure when they reveal more
Speaker 1: of it later. But at least for like the five
Speaker 1: minutes or whatever they showed it was it was pretty interesting,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like the one sort of
Speaker 1: big thing to kind of take from it because everything
Speaker 1: else was, oh, hey remember this game or that game.
Speaker 1: You know you can go buy it on a sale
Speaker 1: right now, yeah, and you know this game's still coming.
Speaker 1: There was no like big reveal. It's not like they
Speaker 1: had some surprise game that they didn't tell you that
Speaker 1: was going to be on there. It was still kind
Speaker 1: of they elongated it with these like constant sales telling
Speaker 1: you that these games are out there that you can buy.
Speaker 2: It felt like, yeah, it's called an infomercial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just honestly felt like we were I'm having
Speaker 1: to sit through this infomercial for that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why they didn't just do it once.
Speaker 1: It was like two or three times, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like what, but but why is like mostly we're gonna
Speaker 1: watch this on demand later. They're not gonna watch that live,
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean, I guess, you know, you
Speaker 1: could have possibly had people that were there for the
Speaker 1: Monster Hunter of it all and then they're they kind
Speaker 1: of check in for this stuff. But honestly, yeah, at
Speaker 1: least they they gave you more on this one game
Speaker 1: that they announced at the Game Awards that we didn't
Speaker 1: know it was going to be there, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: about that. I was kind of a little bit of
Speaker 1: Onisha fans. Just the tank controls obviously kind of pushed
Speaker 1: you out of it.
Speaker 2: I really like the third one. Actually I played the
Speaker 2: first one on the Xbox that Jen Mattini Musha, so
Speaker 2: that wasn't like the greatest version, but I stild, I
Speaker 2: got beat it at least played a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I really like three, two and four sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting that they're like remastered too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't get They cannot remaster you only three
Speaker 2: because they can't get that hot genre no license.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, that's money. Yeah yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Did you ever hear of the Soul controller? No, okay,
Speaker 2: it only came. I never used it. I didn't see
Speaker 2: in the store a few times. So it was a
Speaker 2: motion controlled katana for only Musha three.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because it was during the time where like
Speaker 1: everybody was doing the motion control.
Speaker 2: We know that there's like PS two though, okay crazy,
Speaker 2: Remember like the chainsaw controller for as an.
Speaker 1: Evil for yes, okay, I remember that.
Speaker 2: It basically the same thing except you swung this thing around,
Speaker 2: you know, ah to like attack demons and crap.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, But it's also expensive and like, you know,
Speaker 2: like most most utiful stuff back then, barely worked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Detect didn't get better until, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: essentially that's kind of the main draw of it. So
Speaker 1: if you want to go back and watch that, or
Speaker 1: you really care about Monster Hunter, you want to know
Speaker 1: the different things that are kind of new about it,
Speaker 1: you know, you might as well just go. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: sure anybody that's hike excited a monster hunter, you're already
Speaker 1: going to be trying out that beta. Yo, do you
Speaker 1: hunt monsters?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly. But sticking with Capcom for a little bit too,
Speaker 1: Resident Evil things here. One is that Resident Evil. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know this thing was still on, Like I
Speaker 1: thought they would have shut this down a while ago.
Speaker 1: But Reside Evil Reverse is going to be shut down
Speaker 1: March third and delisted. So therefore, if you bought the
Speaker 1: game and the DC or you bought it, you got
Speaker 1: it with a village and you've been playing it, just
Speaker 1: get ready to know that that is going to be gone. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: did you you never tried it out or anything?
Speaker 2: No, every every online resident with him they tried to
Speaker 2: do has been bad. Yeah, people have fondness for that
Speaker 2: reallyable too thing on PS two what Revelation whatever the
Speaker 2: Bractee thing was, But like, yeah, at the time it
Speaker 2: was kind of passable, but like even then, not really.
Speaker 2: It's so limited by it being on this console that
Speaker 2: like doesn't have built in voice support or like good functionality,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Uh, if you want to enjoy co
Speaker 1: op though you got Resident five and six.
Speaker 2: Or I got like Left for Dead, or you know
Speaker 2: something that you've built for it, like not some half
Speaker 2: half thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the whole point of this is that
Speaker 1: before it was Resident six apparently had gotten an SRB
Speaker 1: rating for threes X and s like I want to say,
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: somebody found that residuebul five now has a rating as well,
Speaker 1: So I guess those games are coming great.
Speaker 2: Play that with the ends again.
Speaker 1: And also that does not mean that those games will
Speaker 1: not get remade, because that happened with four. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they still remade four. So it just means that
Speaker 1: they're making the original games available, which that's good on
Speaker 1: Capcom's part, the original games available on modern consoles, and
Speaker 1: then we'll see the rumor now is the last one
Speaker 1: that I saw was that they're remaking Residueble zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I mentioned that last time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm not a huge fan of but you know, sure,
Speaker 1: I guess I think it's cool that you can complete
Speaker 1: the series, I guess, from zero to four, and then
Speaker 1: if they make the story connect more, which they've been
Speaker 1: doing with the other ones. Then it's cool.
Speaker 2: The problem is zerally sucked and some like bad prequel.
Speaker 2: So people want coach Ronica, but at least because at
Speaker 2: least it continued the story.
Speaker 1: But what if they take out some of the things
Speaker 1: that sucked, right, Like, maybe not what they did, like
Speaker 1: they lichered three, but like Billy ye take out him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll take out the whole character.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, right, you know, well, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll make some additions, knowing that they know that it
Speaker 1: wasn't that fondly received either. But yeah, credit to them
Speaker 1: again for even though it was not the.
Speaker 2: Best, you can't pull it off. But again it's just
Speaker 2: like like the more like the really unnecessary one, you know,
Speaker 2: because coach Ronica is still like older than that and
Speaker 2: more deserving of that as well.
Speaker 1: So right, well, people probably want to play that because
Speaker 1: of the characters that are involved in it as well,
Speaker 1: the characters they know instead of uh, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of starting with the ones that you do in zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rebecca and Billy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know a lot of people don't do that, right,
Speaker 1: like we saw it with Silent Hill, they started with two.
Speaker 1: They didn't just say, Okay, let's try to do this, because,
Speaker 1: to be fair to them, they didn't know blueber Team
Speaker 1: was going to knock it out of the park, right
Speaker 1: they It's like, okay, let's give them the one that
Speaker 1: stand alone that you don't need other stuff to play whatever.
Speaker 1: And if they don't do well with this, then okay,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have to revisit this again. But
Speaker 1: they did, and maybe this will open the door. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna Komo's going to open that
Speaker 1: door or not, but I guess we'll see. We know
Speaker 1: that Blue Routine's working under stuff, so that's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be down the line. But Cavcom seems to understand the
Speaker 1: assignment and that they want to kind of like it
Speaker 1: seems like retell or conjoin the story more between the games.
Speaker 1: Maybe that does mean they we're going to get five
Speaker 1: and six eventually remade.
Speaker 2: I pretty much assume so. But just imagine, you know,
Speaker 2: the Pima red and Evel nine next, and then oh
Speaker 2: yeah for sure, then go back to the remake well,
Speaker 2: and then ten and then another remake.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, they love those remakes. They're even going
Speaker 1: back to the you know, as we talked about those
Speaker 1: old franchises to do them so and you get to
Speaker 1: play football. Yeah, game Pass obviously it's that first part
Speaker 1: of the month, so they got to reveal Xbox and
Speaker 1: Microsoft do the games that are coming. We do know
Speaker 1: that a Vowed is coming on February eighteenth. That's the
Speaker 1: big first party game. So it's kind of light as
Speaker 1: far as new games or new old games really far
Speaker 1: cry New Dawns is the one that's around right now.
Speaker 1: Mad NFL twenty five not surprising. Basically they always do
Speaker 1: this the week of the Super Bowl. They put this
Speaker 1: out on game Pass goes of course, you know, gotta
Speaker 1: gotta try to make that money as much as possible,
Speaker 1: and then everything else is kind of like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is now on game Pass Standard. Also, so like i
Speaker 1: Uning Chronicle one hundred Heroes now on standard, and now
Speaker 1: there's Crabs Treasure, which is a great souls like indies
Speaker 1: souls like their that's on standard. Now did you see
Speaker 1: the kind of out of nowhere they announced DLC for
Speaker 1: Iuding Chronicles Heroes. So yeah, there's like I think three
Speaker 1: story DLCs or whatever that they're going to add. So
Speaker 1: phudos to them because that came kind of came out,
Speaker 1: people were excited about it sort of and then it
Speaker 1: didn't well yeah, it did kind of like it was
Speaker 1: like there with a whimper. It was. It was kind
Speaker 1: of like it was a year of so many great
Speaker 1: rp you know, especially the dues of the j that
Speaker 1: it's like, and then kind of came out.
Speaker 2: And also their reviews were a little shaky, like it
Speaker 2: wasn't like it wasn't like Mighty number nine terrible, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't like you know, blood Stainards for the Night either,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so it's kind of just average or
Speaker 2: you know, decent, but nothing nothing like too great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely. Also, speaking of RPGs, if you haven't
Speaker 1: played Tales of a Rise yet, you might want to
Speaker 1: get on that, even though you won't finish it before
Speaker 1: it gets out of game passed on the fifteenth because
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Is long, right but kind of Marathona.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, take advantage of that discount if you
Speaker 1: haven't already. And I would pick it up, man, because
Speaker 1: Testual Rise is great, right for sure? So uh, speaking
Speaker 1: of more, you know, last week we talked about Force
Speaker 1: Horizon five coming to PS five. Well, more games from
Speaker 1: the Xbox library kind to PS five. Not that's surprising
Speaker 1: really at this point, but the kind of two lesser ones.
Speaker 1: I always give Microsoft credit for like really keeping that
Speaker 1: strategy game genre, like going uh, and they are going
Speaker 1: to bring two of two of those two two of
Speaker 1: their like stalwart ones you know from back in the
Speaker 1: day to PlayStation five Mythology retold, which that's kind of newer,
Speaker 1: that was from last year, and then they're like definitive
Speaker 1: edition like remaster range of Empires too, also coming to
Speaker 1: PS five. If you love those kind of games, you
Speaker 1: can go pay for them on PlayStation five.
Speaker 2: Yes, console or games are always are always cool.
Speaker 1: They either work or they don't. But you know, these
Speaker 1: are pretty well received obviously, I'm sure most people played
Speaker 1: them on PC where they were where they're originally, but uh,
Speaker 1: this one was interesting, uh to give to you, uh,
Speaker 1: since you play these games, I don't really David Rewick,
Speaker 1: who obviously lead designer on Diablo Too, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: was a Blizzard for a while. Obviously now with Microsoft
Speaker 1: now it is not. Yeah, no it's not, but I
Speaker 1: mean he left what after even in the middle of
Speaker 1: three If I remember reading, yeah, Jason Starr's book so
Speaker 1: he his main thing is that you know, he was taught.
Speaker 1: He didn't agree with that video gamer where he talks
Speaker 1: about action RPGs reward gamers too quickly and then cheapens
Speaker 1: the experience. Obviously. You know Diablo two had a you know,
Speaker 1: you had to go a while before you leveled up.
Speaker 1: You usually replayed that game quite a bit to get
Speaker 1: to where you wanted to be. Right, where do you
Speaker 1: sit with that? Do you think that it should take
Speaker 1: longer for you to level up because you get to
Speaker 1: like level sixty or seventy two quick within like three
Speaker 1: or four days, and then there's not a lot for you.
Speaker 2: To do or well as far as like Diablo goes,
Speaker 2: like I'm still gaining like paraon levels and I'm like
Speaker 2: two sixty like three hundred, and that'll be how it
Speaker 2: take me like a like a few more months to
Speaker 2: do if I want to get all the way maxed out.
Speaker 2: And there are people like already there, like they were
Speaker 2: there like months ago.
Speaker 1: But right, but that's because that's like the only game
Speaker 1: they play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're crazy, so they don't count. I think it's
Speaker 2: I don't mind a level level cap per se, but
Speaker 2: it's more for me. It's a matter of like especially
Speaker 2: with Diapolo, like gear abundance, or I get too much
Speaker 2: crappy gear, like if I kill one of the world
Speaker 2: bosses or you know, one of the like uh not
Speaker 2: tear but uh hate like I forget the name of it.
Speaker 2: But basically one of like the dungeon bosses, I get
Speaker 2: between like ten and fifteen pieces of gear, and between
Speaker 2: ten and fifteen pieces of gear are worthless to me
Speaker 2: because not it's not an upgrade at all, So I'm
Speaker 2: just selling or trashing most of this crap, so it
Speaker 2: becomes very pointless, or it becomes just like this huge
Speaker 2: grind's like oh my, my two hundredth run of this dungeon,
Speaker 2: I finally got something that's like five more dexter dexterity
Speaker 2: points for me or something. But with what be like
Speaker 2: there's not still not enough like reforaging or changing of
Speaker 2: the attributes or to something, or like there are these
Speaker 2: uh what is it, like basically keys the keystones you
Speaker 2: can use to like unlock this dungeon. I have eight hundred,
Speaker 2: Like that's a lot, Like that is more than you
Speaker 2: would ever need in that thing, and I can't combine
Speaker 2: them or I can't make a better one, so there's
Speaker 2: like rotten inventory forever until I eventually throw them away
Speaker 2: like Diago for specifically needs more like combining of stuff.
Speaker 2: But that's a problem like most of these, you know,
Speaker 2: ar action RPGs, like you get to the end content
Speaker 2: and then you just kind of hit a wall because
Speaker 2: they don't have enough and content for you to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a players a fraternity two kind
Speaker 1: of hits is hitting the sweet spot for people you have.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, it's the same same initials, and I
Speaker 1: can't think of also because avowed is apparently somehow in
Speaker 1: the philip eraternities, but they don't really explain how.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they said that. It's just like okay,
Speaker 1: I guess right, but.
Speaker 2: No one cares much about Pillows of Eternity, so it's like, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's like how Vagrant Story in Front of Fantasy twelve
Speaker 2: are in the same universe technically, but it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: who cares.
Speaker 1: Vagrant Story is actually well loved and people would love
Speaker 1: that to play that game right now on modern consoles,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, Square if even even just let people
Speaker 1: play it on the the PS plus thing would be great,
Speaker 1: that'd be nice, like give us that surprise, you know,
Speaker 1: And maybe that's gonna be a drop there, And I
Speaker 1: doubt I'm just joking, but you know, that could be
Speaker 1: a drop on the upcoming state of play. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but I do think that there's something to
Speaker 1: what he's saying right of when you're if you're if
Speaker 1: people are maxing out at like in three to four
Speaker 1: days and that's all they wanted to do, and they're
Speaker 1: beating the story and there's not really a whole lot
Speaker 1: reason for them to go back and play it again,
Speaker 1: then I mean, I guess if you played it on
Speaker 1: game Best, no big deal for you. But if you
Speaker 1: actually spent money on buying the game, the whole point
Speaker 1: of playing Diablo is to play it over and over,
Speaker 1: or any action rpg like that. Yeah, Obviously there's other
Speaker 1: action RPGs that are not in that vein that they're
Speaker 1: more like actual traditional RPGs. So them leveling you up
Speaker 1: quickly isn't really a big deal because that story is
Speaker 1: much much longer, right and it has consequence, So you know,
Speaker 1: but in the ones that he's talking about, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that are of that ILK. I can kind of see
Speaker 1: his point a little bit. But that's also where it's like,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's kind of okay. You know, you
Speaker 1: probably think that the content you have coming down the
Speaker 1: pipeline is going to get people to go back to
Speaker 1: the game, similar to like how you do with Wow
Speaker 1: every year or whatever. And for Diablo four at least,
Speaker 1: it seems like that's not happening.
Speaker 2: Well like seasons and stuff. But yeah, I still don't
Speaker 2: like the mentality. It's like, oh, play this new content,
Speaker 2: create this new character.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's but then you said they just say, well,
Speaker 1: didn't they like make it to where you don't have
Speaker 1: to do that or it's mandatory it's mandatory. Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean I think for like one season that wasn't mandatory.
Speaker 2: I think like season five or something, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a whole new like which season I think
Speaker 2: it's called season the or something where they go like
Speaker 2: witch Gens and all the other stupid crap and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to play that, you have to create a
Speaker 2: new character and said, yo, I spent the past six
Speaker 2: months built like creating this godlite character.
Speaker 1: Already, Like I don't want to do that again.
Speaker 2: Like but it's their way of like keeping the loop
Speaker 2: going forever, or you know, keeping that mouse feels spinning.
Speaker 1: But didn't you have the mouth still spinning before without
Speaker 1: having to do that? I mean, I don't understand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like why they couldn't figure that out again, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like they were so worried about the end
Speaker 1: game not being good enough that they had to use
Speaker 1: that crutch in order to be like, well, now you
Speaker 1: have to play it for this long in order to
Speaker 1: get to your character maxed out again. And it's like
Speaker 1: kind of there's a word for it that I can't
Speaker 1: think of right now, but you're like, yeah, you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of like forcing the repetition on people and it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like they should want to go back to
Speaker 1: your game, right, And it's yeah, not great. It leaves
Speaker 1: a bad taste in the mouth of people. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have probably done what's been happening,
Speaker 1: which is they just choose not to go back to
Speaker 1: it at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you'd hear a YenS complain about Diablo before,
Speaker 2: like he hates it. Yeah, that's not you know, do
Speaker 2: being heard to him partially he played a bad character class.
Speaker 2: That's like, well, that's kind of on you, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You told him and he could have
Speaker 1: gone back, but he yeah, well all right. Moving on
Speaker 1: to Nintendo here for a little bit, Nintendo had their
Speaker 1: everybody had their sales thing. But you know, we did
Speaker 1: xboxes last week and Nintendo kind of had theirs within
Speaker 1: the they would fall in this week, and obviously Switch
Speaker 1: one sales have taken a nose dive because that console
Speaker 1: is freaking super old and it's not like they had
Speaker 1: amazing killer apps come out last year. It's also amazing
Speaker 1: that like people want to talk about these remakes all
Speaker 1: the time, and it just goes to show that the
Speaker 1: RPG's are still like very much in this genre, because
Speaker 1: I think an amazing game like Mario thousand Year Door
Speaker 1: only had two million sales. Uh, And then you put
Speaker 1: it against like almost anything else I think, aside from
Speaker 1: Princess Peach of their like big releases and everything else.
Speaker 1: I sold it by a bunch, included to Mario Party Jamboree,
Speaker 1: which sold six point step one seven million, which is
Speaker 1: the highest of the three now and each one of
Speaker 1: them sold over five million, which is still ridiculous. Shows
Speaker 1: the power of the Switch. But also I think like, uh,
Speaker 1: not great numbers for Echos of Wisdom. That only sold
Speaker 1: like four million, which is pretty low for a Zelda.
Speaker 2: Game maybe, but like it's a really awesome Zelda game,
Speaker 2: So it's not hugely surprising.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and I think people are there's still a
Speaker 1: lot of people that they have now become used to
Speaker 1: Zelda is Breath of the Wall and Tiers of the Kingdom.
Speaker 1: It's not to Zelda for them. Yeah, so games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not playing link. It's not traditional combat even
Speaker 2: like the old combat. You know, it's just like kind
Speaker 2: of weird puzzle things. It's not that surprising, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, it's different. It's different combat. I
Speaker 1: mean they try to kind of bridge the gap between
Speaker 1: the Tiers of the Kingdom, like you can create things
Speaker 1: with the traditional Zelda stuff. But then it's also like
Speaker 1: you're not controlling a lot of the combat because that's
Speaker 1: being done by the the little monsters that you can
Speaker 1: take over or whatever. And and I think that probably
Speaker 1: threw some people off as well. Not to mention the
Speaker 1: like solving a re dungeon with the bed for a while, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: a thing, but the main thing from Nintendo this week
Speaker 1: is obviously they kind of have to like keep drip
Speaker 1: feeding the news until we get to April. Second. So
Speaker 1: Nintendo's president for Krower, was asked, you know, especially because
Speaker 1: of all the stuff that had already come out about
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with these tariffs and all this other
Speaker 1: stuff and the Japanese yen and exchange rate all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He's like, they asked him, you know what about the
Speaker 1: switch price, the Switch two price, and he says, well,
Speaker 1: there's multiple factors they are considering that they they know
Speaker 1: that it has to be affordable, that people have known
Speaker 1: Nintendo to be an affordable company when it comes to
Speaker 1: their products, and they have to take all this stuff
Speaker 1: into a you know account. I think I saw that
Speaker 1: most of the Switch two parts are made in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: so the tariffs wouldn't affect the switch to but that
Speaker 1: there is the still the exchange rate and the bad
Speaker 1: stuff going on with the end right now? Do you
Speaker 1: think that where where did you end up landing when
Speaker 1: we talked about the press, when we did the prediction
Speaker 1: at the beginning, I think sixty you still think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be three to fifty yetter all that, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's kind of getting us ready for a little higher.
Speaker 2: I could see four hundred, and there are some Costco
Speaker 2: Canada leak or like very temporary thing that headed for
Speaker 2: five hundred Canadian which would be basically four hundred USD.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see. I could see four hundred
Speaker 1: by itself a one leap for the console with what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to have inside. And then also you know
Speaker 1: the promise of Switch two games and still being able
Speaker 1: to play Switch one games. I think that's enough too.
Speaker 1: And then you know whatever the DLSS technology is going
Speaker 1: to be able to do when you put it on
Speaker 1: your TV, because supposedly the doc is going to actually
Speaker 1: have power this time. It's not going to just be
Speaker 1: you put the thing in through. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be a pass through where an ups. It's actually supposed
Speaker 1: to be providing power because it has to right provide
Speaker 1: that four K image. I definitely could see four hundred,
Speaker 1: and then you more your part nine you pay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think if it's a bundle with
Speaker 2: a game, that'll be four fifty, but it's yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I probably just get the regular game, get the regular
Speaker 2: bundle or the regular system couldn't necessarily need Mark RT
Speaker 2: nine even though it'll be like the number one selling thing.
Speaker 1: I'd see a lot of people saying that, like we
Speaker 1: should get ready for like five hundred, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I still can't see them going route because it's it's
Speaker 1: still a switch like, you know, even if you tell
Speaker 1: me that.
Speaker 2: Like it's approaching five hundred, that's like almost steam Deck money.
Speaker 1: And I'd probably to get one of those.
Speaker 2: If I was going to get something in that form
Speaker 2: factor or you know, like that specific I'm going to
Speaker 2: spend the price. I'd rather spend the twenty or thirty
Speaker 2: extra bucks in the steam Deck. And it's say screwed.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's are going to sell like crazy.
Speaker 1: Let's let's not hit ourselves. We know for sure it
Speaker 1: will regardless of whether they priced it at five hundred,
Speaker 1: four fifty, four hundred and three fifty whatever. Obviously, when
Speaker 1: you start getting closer to five hundred, that's when people
Speaker 1: start going, I don't know, you know, do I need
Speaker 1: it right now? It's still plays Switch one games. We
Speaker 1: know two of the biggest games that people are gonna
Speaker 1: care about or Switch one Games, which is Pokemon ZA
Speaker 1: and Detroit Prime four beyond, especially the Pokemon side of things.
Speaker 1: So unless they announce a switch to exclusive Pokemon game,
Speaker 1: there's not really a reason for the Pokemon fans to
Speaker 1: go out and rush, and which they could. They could
Speaker 1: announce the next gen of Pokemon A two. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think we're definitely gonna get whatever. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what gen we're on at this point. The successor
Speaker 1: to Scarlet and Violet could definitely be announced at that
Speaker 1: April second thing, even if they announced it just like
Speaker 1: they did ZA, where it's just like letterhead, name plate,
Speaker 1: it's coming whatever, you know, not this year, but next year's.
Speaker 1: Especially the way that the Game Awards and even Capcom
Speaker 1: with Animusha made it okay for you to be able
Speaker 1: to put twenty twenty six on a thing at the end,
Speaker 1: I could see Nintendo putting out a bunch of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six stuff and going, okay, you know, get ready, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's some cool things coming this year, but next year
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna have a blowout. You know this is coming,
Speaker 1: This is coming, this is coming. So I could see it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I think like once you get
Speaker 1: past you're gonna tell me that it's five hundred and
Speaker 1: then five point fifty with a game for the switch too,
Speaker 1: and they're still gonna support the I think you're they're
Speaker 1: talking about. Switch one is gonna be supported as long
Speaker 1: as people demand it. The higher you make that price
Speaker 1: at the beginning, the more demand there's gonna be for
Speaker 1: supporting Switch one for a long time.
Speaker 2: So but the problem is you can't do what Sony
Speaker 2: and Microsoft did because there's gonna be a bigger golf
Speaker 2: between the Switch one and switch to than like PS
Speaker 2: four and PS five or the you know the xboxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean definitely. You know this year there's gonna
Speaker 1: be switch one support, so there's no run you don't
Speaker 1: really need to buy the switch to until.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the year in four years you didn't,
Speaker 2: they'll be Switched one support. No way, like even games
Speaker 2: nowadays like they don't run that particularly well in.
Speaker 1: The well, there are so many games that can't run
Speaker 1: on Switch one that will now be able to run
Speaker 1: on switch to, right, because even I mean seven if
Speaker 1: runs on Switch one. But I bet Borderlines two is
Speaker 1: not gonna be on switch but it probably will be
Speaker 1: on switch to. So Borderlines four I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're hinting at are they gonna try to get Grand
Speaker 1: Theft Attle six to run on switch too? Definitely not gonna.
Speaker 1: Uh so uh they did, you know, stress Seonic kind
Speaker 1: of reiterated they are going to support Nintendo's but I
Speaker 1: better Grand Theft Tottle six lands on that thing. It
Speaker 1: is going to sell even more crazy numbers. So I
Speaker 1: bet I think we'll try to make it work as
Speaker 1: much as possible. And I'm sure Nintendo is trying to
Speaker 1: avoid the whole like those Cloud only things did not work,
Speaker 1: so let's avoid that as much as possible. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what it ends up costume. But I'm I
Speaker 1: see people putting out that four to fifty five hundred price.
Speaker 1: I'm dislike. I can't say, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think four hundred for the basic Basic one and then
Speaker 2: four to fifty for a game.
Speaker 1: I could see five hundred if you're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: that it either includes the pro controller or another set
Speaker 1: of joy Con but it has to have other things.
Speaker 1: So but you know those those plays is that love
Speaker 1: to do that, like GameStop and all those weird shops,
Speaker 1: that that's the only way they would sell the PS
Speaker 1: five was with the game and something else to like
Speaker 1: jack up the price, so I wouldn't be surprised. We
Speaker 1: see that also, but we'll see well when we get there.
Speaker 1: We still got plenty of time for April, like two months,
Speaker 1: barely a little bit less than two months at this
Speaker 1: I think the rest of this stuff, Uh, now, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. Did you see the thing
Speaker 1: with uh it feels like every week we got to
Speaker 1: talk about by Away and dragon Age. Did you see
Speaker 1: the thing with Mike Andrew Wilson where he said that
Speaker 1: the reason why Vailguard failed is because people are used to,
Speaker 1: uh basically playing live service games, and so therefore they
Speaker 1: would have kept the games of live service like it
Speaker 1: was originally intended, it would have done better.
Speaker 2: Partially, I think there's just again, I should have he
Speaker 2: just said, like I should have been live service.
Speaker 1: But how does that again? How does that work?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Well, he says, to break beyond the core audience of games,
Speaker 1: you need to directly connect the evolving demands of players
Speaker 1: here increase. He seeks shureed world features and deeper engagement,
Speaker 1: alongsie high quality and errators, which obviously this was not
Speaker 1: a high quality narrative. Uh, he nailed it on that
Speaker 1: this wasn't a high quality narrative. But then Mike Laidlaw
Speaker 1: came out on Blue Sky and he said, look, I'm
Speaker 1: not a FANTASYEO guy, but if someone said to me
Speaker 1: the key to the successful single player IP successes to
Speaker 1: make it a purely multiplayer game, no, not a spinoff,
Speaker 1: fundamentally changed the DNA what people loved about the core game.
Speaker 1: To me, I'd probably like quit that job or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like, what's the mentality for that for
Speaker 2: like Balder's Gate three, Like that's not a live service game,
Speaker 2: and that was one of the most popular games of
Speaker 2: last year or two years ago.
Speaker 1: It's because he hasn't ingrained in them that everything has
Speaker 1: to be live service, right. It's like they don't know
Speaker 1: how to do unless it's something like you know, the
Speaker 1: us A fair stuff where it's like, okay, that's indie.
Speaker 1: It's okay for it to be it's to US co op,
Speaker 1: but it's okay for it not to be live service,
Speaker 1: you know. Whereas it's like anything that they spend a
Speaker 1: lot of money on has to have some kind of
Speaker 1: and it's like, holy crap, I'm worried about mass effect five.
Speaker 1: Now you're going to try to pigeonhole some kind of
Speaker 1: live service thing into that. Y, yes they are.
Speaker 2: There are some game spot thing like there's an EA
Speaker 2: thing about like, what do you want to see about
Speaker 2: plans for Zombies three? And my response is make it
Speaker 2: a twenty dollars game where there's no white sort of
Speaker 2: bullshit inside of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I just feel like that's that's another
Speaker 1: thing too. It's just like, look, we're seeing so many
Speaker 1: of these things bomb, how many of these have to
Speaker 1: happen to where you kind of understand that. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: the more and more you keep driving this up a wall,
Speaker 1: the more non people are going to reject it, right,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have more multi versus and more concords
Speaker 1: and insert failed live service game here, and and you're
Speaker 1: not going to be that success. Like it's like you
Speaker 1: already kind of teeter on the brink with your sports
Speaker 1: games that you're like driving the monetization and two K
Speaker 1: does this as well with the NBA two K, where
Speaker 1: it's like, how do we get that VC money? Constantly
Speaker 1: It's like yo, I mean you try to do this
Speaker 1: with other games and it's it's just not happening. So
Speaker 1: how we don't do that?
Speaker 2: It's desperation. And also it's also like market like greed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely agreed.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just like how can you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: how can we extract more and more blood out of
Speaker 2: the stone.
Speaker 1: The number must go up constantly. Number cannot go down. Ever,
Speaker 1: It's like, y'all, some point the number's gotta go down.
Speaker 1: It cannot go up infinitely. Y'all really need to understand that,
Speaker 1: like start going spending less money on the upkeep of
Speaker 1: all this and and start going back to ground zero.
Speaker 2: I mean it's telling when he was cranking out needs
Speaker 2: for speed games for the past decade and a half,
Speaker 2: how like the only one that did actually well was
Speaker 2: Hot Pursuit. Mm hmmm, I think that's what it was,
Speaker 2: thee with Tops and Robbers. Yeah, yes, that was a
Speaker 2: mainly single player game, like you could like race against
Speaker 2: your friends times, but like they need to and also
Speaker 2: like it was like that wasn't a a the core
Speaker 2: feature of the game. All the other ones like they
Speaker 2: try to have this like live city cluster fastic race
Speaker 2: against your friends or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, race against your friends with scores because it's not
Speaker 1: like you had you could actually race against them. It's
Speaker 1: like you put your score out there and they try
Speaker 1: to beat you. Yeah, okay, that's nowhere nearest fun but thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Look, it's just it feels like every time
Speaker 1: we talked about them, like they postponed Need for Speed
Speaker 1: last week, and then they're gonna work on Battlefield and
Speaker 1: it's just like you keep putting out Dragon Age to
Speaker 1: sit there and tell them how badly it did, and
Speaker 1: even EAFC to a certain point, it's just like, God,
Speaker 1: I'll be glad when they get past this, and let's
Speaker 1: be happy about split fiction, because man, everything about a
Speaker 1: EA right now is nowhere near as bad as Warner Brothers, though,
Speaker 1: who continue to just I guess it's good news, but
Speaker 1: just shows their strategy was absolutely terrible. I guess they
Speaker 1: tried to figure out some kind of live service thing
Speaker 1: for Wonder Woman or they couldn't figure out what they
Speaker 1: wanted the Wonder Woman game to be, and apparently it
Speaker 1: was rebooted secretly. It's already cost more than a hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars. Crazy, and aside from also like we knew,
Speaker 1: they're pretty much failed because not only do they put
Speaker 1: it in patient plus and it felt like it made
Speaker 1: no waves. But you know, Harry Potters Putish Champions did nothing.
Speaker 1: And then it's like one of them was supposed to
Speaker 1: be one of their big games because it uses the
Speaker 1: nemesis system that we haven't seen since the second yeah,
Speaker 1: or set of War. And then yeah, it's just going
Speaker 1: back to the ring board. So we'll see when he
Speaker 1: gets put out.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you two things about Wonder Woman. A
Speaker 2: does she fly or now?
Speaker 1: Uh? I bet they will try to make her no.
Speaker 2: I mean the character itself.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen in some of the cartoons
Speaker 1: that she.
Speaker 2: Did yeah, because it's funny because I mean, Jen is
Speaker 2: a huge Wonder Woman fan, which is like the wildering
Speaker 2: to me kind of because she's kind of a blind character,
Speaker 2: I think personally. And then I asked him like, well
Speaker 2: didn't you fly in this one? And he's like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean fly? And I was like, she can fly, yeah,
Speaker 2: And then he was like what about the invisible jet?
Speaker 2: And I was like, she has that also, Like that's
Speaker 2: also you know, so she didn't have.
Speaker 1: The ability to fly until not to get until the
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four, no.
Speaker 2: She's had a built well no, like you've been able
Speaker 2: to fly the comics for like decades.
Speaker 1: Right, but he was like gifted to her by Athena.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, but they and then whatever.
Speaker 2: That was like the funny Wonder Woman discussion we had
Speaker 2: because yeah, she fights in the cartoons, like, right, no problem.
Speaker 2: But I read that article and I was like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean, Like this Nemesis system is turned into
Speaker 2: like this friendship bullshit, Like how do you do that?
Speaker 2: I was like just bewildered by that. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: do you become friends with your enemies? You know you're Nemesiss.
Speaker 2: You give him a chocolate cake and the beef is over?
Speaker 2: Like it's like, no, wonder that part of the game
Speaker 2: failed or like you know, is meandering about because you
Speaker 2: can't build a game on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, she has plenty of She has enough Nemesiss
Speaker 1: to where it's like.
Speaker 2: Well, no, because the whole thing with Shadow War, Shadow
Speaker 2: Mortor is just faceless orcs. Yeah, it's not like, oh
Speaker 2: this one orc is somehow story relevant.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: No, just they have some you know, uh, rudimentary system
Speaker 2: that you can just generate infinite orcs, Right, like and
Speaker 2: that's the problem of Wonder Woman also is like she
Speaker 2: doesn't have like a good uh.
Speaker 1: Arch enemy, yeah, other than like the cheetah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh cheetahs, the arch edimen. It's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: Like even if you even if you eliminated a joker
Speaker 2: from Batman mythology, he still has oh god, dozens of
Speaker 2: dozens of other bad guys to contend with, or you
Speaker 2: know Superman, say with like Lex Luthor. It's like, but like,
Speaker 2: how do you do the Nemesis system with like random goons?
Speaker 2: With Wonder Woman fights like, oh, this one's somehow I'm
Speaker 2: immune to her lasso or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's also like because in Shadow Mortor, it's kind
Speaker 1: of believable that that orc could also like whoop your ass,
Speaker 1: yeah right, whereas like the the goon that you're gonna fight,
Speaker 1: where one woman obviously has better powers than that goon.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, that's that's also the whole problem with
Speaker 2: Superman or Superman game. It's like, how do you believably
Speaker 2: put Superman in danger? It's like you can't.
Speaker 1: Would you have to pull like enemies from the Justice
Speaker 1: League or whatever to even fill that out For Wonder
Speaker 1: Woman to like make that believable to where uh you
Speaker 1: know she has enough nemesiss to use that system. Like
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing, is Ye, that's what I think.
Speaker 2: So because a nemicis system is just like there is
Speaker 2: an in game or in universe reason at least in
Speaker 2: Shadow mortor for like, oh, Surron is creating tougher orcs
Speaker 2: theoretically you know, their immune to poison or their immune
Speaker 2: to whatever. Like you can't do that. It's like justice
Speaker 2: like or a Wonder Woman because oh this yeah, this
Speaker 2: goon is not immune to your weapon or your sword
Speaker 2: or you know, like you're like I said, lasso or something.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think like it's it's a very
Speaker 2: hard thing to like pull off, unlike with like Batman
Speaker 2: or like even a lot of like X Men or
Speaker 2: not Marvel characters who are like functionally at least mortal,
Speaker 2: like Spider Man gets hurt or Iron Man gets sucked up,
Speaker 2: like you don't really see Wonder Woman doing that, or
Speaker 2: like Superman because they are basically immortal. Like yeah, I
Speaker 2: remember Superman sixty four, Like the reason was, like the
Speaker 2: reason you could get hurt in that game was like,
Speaker 2: oh there's kryptonic gas everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeahs terrible man.
Speaker 2: It's general, you know, but at least like they tried
Speaker 2: to provide an in universe reason for why he was
Speaker 2: like weakened, right, but just dumb.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, at least we know there's a single player
Speaker 1: of Batman game happening at the remnants of whatever's left
Speaker 1: the rock study, right and whatever. Whenever it is that
Speaker 1: we'll see that game. It's probably like at least three
Speaker 1: years away.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say four, but three, yeah, ah. Do
Speaker 2: you think it will come out or do you think
Speaker 2: they'll actually be able to finish it?
Speaker 1: With them talking about there was like tumultous behind the
Speaker 1: scenes problems with why Wonder Woman it got rebooted, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just don't have faith that Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers will still have a functional game division in that.
Speaker 2: Honestly, they should shut everything for another room and be like,
Speaker 2: you know, here's the money for Mortal Kombat. If you
Speaker 2: can squeeze out another game on the off here, like
Speaker 2: I can bring.
Speaker 3: Back DC whatever the hell that thing was called, uh,
Speaker 3: Injustice or Injustice Yeah yeah, if you can throw that off,
Speaker 3: cool everything We're gonna shut down yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really, I'd really be It wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: at all if like Mortal Koma's the only thing left standing.
Speaker 2: After what I can see, I don't going to come
Speaker 2: out that Batman game has come out, but I think
Speaker 2: it does. It'll be so far removed from what Rocktery
Speaker 2: did or from what people want, it might even be
Speaker 2: a bigger disaster than Justice League Suicide Squad.
Speaker 1: I will say that if they can get you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's reports out that they're making an expansion
Speaker 1: to Harry Potter and Harry Potter too. If that does
Speaker 1: well right and continues to be the grossing, the big
Speaker 1: grosser for them, that it you know, the first game
Speaker 1: was right, and Mortal Combat kind of keeps going along.
Speaker 1: I'm sure when the second movie comes out, that might
Speaker 1: reinvigorate people to go play Mortal Kombat again. And let's see,
Speaker 1: if these DC movies do well, what are people going
Speaker 1: to be looking for, you know, other kinds of like
Speaker 1: we saw it Fallout and all that. When you have
Speaker 1: a good trans media property, people look for those games, right.
Speaker 1: So if James Gunn can bring back the DC movies
Speaker 1: to be something good, and you know, we already know.
Speaker 1: He did the great job with Peacemaker. I think that
Speaker 1: can kind of be the thing that all of that
Speaker 1: together could keep it around long enough. And if Wonder
Speaker 1: Woman can can somehow come back from all this and
Speaker 1: be good, that'll keep it around long enough for Rock
Speaker 1: Study to be all right and Batman, you know, to
Speaker 1: still exist. It just I don't know if another Batman
Speaker 1: movie will also come out before then, too. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Matt Reeves is doing, or are they actually
Speaker 1: doing that Batman two movie or whatever's going on with that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Joker Too sucked, right. I finally watched it when
Speaker 1: it was on HBO Max like last week, and I
Speaker 1: was like, we turned it off halfway through because I
Speaker 1: don't mind musicals, but it just, my god, it was
Speaker 1: just so not working for that movie, right, yo, come on,
Speaker 1: even my my you know, my girlfriend's dad, who loved
Speaker 1: the first Joker, he just got up and he's like,
Speaker 1: why is there singing? Yeah? I don't want this in
Speaker 1: my movie, Like they just ruined the movie for me,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm sorry. You know, I'm only
Speaker 1: watching it because it's on HBO Max and I don't
Speaker 1: have to pay for it. I kind of wanted to
Speaker 1: see how bad it was, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. I watched that wilfare Reese Witherspoon movie
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime and said, and actually that was that's
Speaker 1: actually pretty But you know, look, I just I hope
Speaker 1: that all of this stuff could be good, because it's
Speaker 1: it's better for everyone if those movies and those ips
Speaker 1: are doing well. It just I hate it. I hope
Speaker 1: that Rock City can still be around long enough to
Speaker 1: like redeem themselves because for all intensive purposes that whoever
Speaker 1: made that Arkham VR game it's actually pretty good. So yeah,
Speaker 1: people want that still if you can do it right right,
Speaker 1: all right, So now the rest of this stuff is
Speaker 1: really just like, let's hit this out quick, so let
Speaker 1: me go. Uh Sonic X Generation sold two million cool
Speaker 1: glad to sell movie out, you know, yeah, exactly. GBA's
Speaker 1: water Land Force coming to Switch Online. It should have
Speaker 1: also mentioned last Segrigerator sixty four is also coming is
Speaker 1: already out and Switch Online this is coming on Valentine's Day. Cool.
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to see more games that I actually
Speaker 1: know hitting switch online, not the random nes stuff. Then
Speaker 1: Nintendo puts out that I'm just like okay, no, like whatever.
Speaker 1: Neither one of us will he played this, but just
Speaker 1: wanted to mention it because it's been like a thing.
Speaker 1: Football Managers twenty five has been delayed twice. It's supposed
Speaker 1: to come out in March. Apparently it's not going to
Speaker 1: hit that and they just decided to cancel it and
Speaker 1: they're going to focus on Football Managers twenty six. So
Speaker 1: if you're a big Football Manager guy, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are huge on Football Manager,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're disappointed and they're not going to get
Speaker 1: to play the newest version. But canceling it exactly not
Speaker 1: for forcing it, because they did mention we could have
Speaker 1: put it out and just kept updating it, and we
Speaker 1: felt that it was it would have been terrible to
Speaker 1: do that, so we just canceled it right. Good on them,
Speaker 1: Happy to see people having the gumption to do that.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 1: Kingdom Cum Deliverance Too, which was the big game release
Speaker 1: of last week, hit one million sales out of the
Speaker 1: first day, so it's already made the money back that
Speaker 1: they spent on it. Apparently, according to UH forgot the
Speaker 1: like main director, but it's now the Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: Another game me and YenS we're talking about, compared it
Speaker 2: to what a Dragon Age Vail Guard. Like people want
Speaker 2: unique games or very specific game and Gilgard tried like
Speaker 2: the whole like appealing to everyone approach, which didn't work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: almost never works, you know.
Speaker 1: And Kingdom Cuming Deliverance has two has great reviews. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't a game for you, and I no,
Speaker 2: it is for the people that want it and it's
Speaker 2: you know, specifically made for them, and it's good at
Speaker 2: what it does. So trying to like appeal to everyone, like.
Speaker 1: No, there was a little bit of that reviewer controversy
Speaker 1: because the director brought up that I can't remember the
Speaker 1: outlet now. They gave it like a five and they
Speaker 1: took it off the ninety minute critic uh, and he
Speaker 1: was pissed about that. Hey, he decided to just go
Speaker 1: on social media talk about it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, that's not good, because let's start that war again.
Speaker 1: We really don't need that anymore. I'm just so tired
Speaker 1: of it, Like, let's let's not have game Jittalist get
Speaker 1: attacked because a lot of people don't understand the game
Speaker 1: that video games takes so long to play. That. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more personal bias comes into those
Speaker 1: reviews than when you watch a two hour movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if the game is purely broken, that's
Speaker 2: one thing, right. You know, all reviews are subjective to
Speaker 2: a certain extent, but.
Speaker 1: There's people that just they bring a lot more of
Speaker 1: their personal I didn't jibe with this game, so it
Speaker 1: is a five, Right, They don't look at it like
Speaker 1: objectively and go, it's a well made game. It's still
Speaker 1: a seven. Like, Okay, I did that with Big Helme
Speaker 1: of Heroes, Right, I gave it a seven. Probably for
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you look at the jank that's
Speaker 1: in there and they probably go, oh, that should have
Speaker 1: been a six or a five something, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I could still see the other qualities of this game
Speaker 1: for me, kind of outweigh some of the jink that
Speaker 1: I had to deal with. For some people, when you
Speaker 1: it's like I don't like this part of the game.
Speaker 1: I don't like that it forces me to do this,
Speaker 1: It's like, well, the game, that is what the game is.
Speaker 1: You didn't appreciate it for that, perhaps you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been the one reviewing it, and therefore, now you gave
Speaker 1: this game A five and it does affect me unfortunately
Speaker 1: Metacritic and Open Critics scores and still tied the people's
Speaker 1: bonuses and stuff like that for a lot of places. Unfortunately, stupid.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that way, but it is. And you know,
Speaker 1: just maybe maybe think about like I'm not saying we
Speaker 1: need to think about those people when we're doing These
Speaker 1: are reasons, but it's like, just don't don't take so
Speaker 1: much personal bias into it that it's like it almost
Speaker 1: feels like you're hating now instead of actually re viewing
Speaker 1: the USA who you know, they used to run E
Speaker 1: three are now doing a networking event called Icon with
Speaker 1: two Eyes. Everybody, the big players are all in on this.
Speaker 1: It's gonna hit Las Vegas April twenty seven to April thirtieth.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have visionary knots engaging discussions at workshops and
Speaker 1: elite networking opportunities. Obviously, we talked about last week that,
Speaker 1: you know, the Summer Game Fest now has their own
Speaker 1: little business summit thing that they're doing. Yeah, you think
Speaker 1: this is gonna you know, obviously this is not supposed
Speaker 1: to be. It's not meant to be that it's kind
Speaker 1: of a going back to what E three kind of
Speaker 1: used to be, like where it's supposed to be more
Speaker 1: like a trade show, more like a this is the
Speaker 1: business thing. Yeah, you think this will actually like we
Speaker 1: got all the big players. You think this will be
Speaker 1: a big hit something.
Speaker 2: Be like pretty half assed, or they might do it
Speaker 2: for a year and then they won't get their money
Speaker 2: back and then that'll be it.
Speaker 1: I think this is an event. This is essentially just
Speaker 1: the business version of GDC uh, and it will be
Speaker 1: something that like, oh, in the industry, we kind of
Speaker 1: you talk about it and whatever, but it's not this
Speaker 1: thing that you like make a big deal about outside
Speaker 1: of that. And if some game gets made because some
Speaker 1: people got to meet up at this, we might find
Speaker 1: out the cool backstory behind it when no clip does documentary.
Speaker 1: But I think that's kind of be the extent of
Speaker 1: it for the most part.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Steam is not going to offer a warning for early
Speaker 1: access games that don't get updated after a year. I
Speaker 1: feel like this should have been there for like day
Speaker 1: one with early access. I don't think anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't even necessarily thoughts of people that companies or
Speaker 2: developers would like just you know, abandon ship you know like, well, I.
Speaker 1: Think they also didn't know that early access was going
Speaker 1: to take off the way it did. Like so many
Speaker 1: games is come in and come on in early access
Speaker 1: and then they sometimes they're there for many years, not
Speaker 1: just one, and you know they end up being great successes,
Speaker 1: right like we've seen a lot of games do or
Speaker 1: they do abandon it.
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. The other Steam thing. Do
Speaker 2: you see that's it?
Speaker 1: No? Not today?
Speaker 2: It was Steam is putting the kaibas on games ahead
Speaker 2: in game advertising.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's great.
Speaker 2: Ah and like you guys for like they're telling girls
Speaker 2: versus if you had the starts, you have to remove it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good they should have.
Speaker 2: They can come to mobile. Oh.
Speaker 1: Also, I'm from I don't think i've seen this really
Speaker 1: report that much. I saw some sites posting it, but
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a rumor right now.
Speaker 1: It's not a but there's uh some hub above about
Speaker 1: Steam is gonna maybe try Steam Console version two. What
Speaker 1: do you think about that? You think that could actually work?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I think I think the the the market
Speaker 2: not the marketplace, but the ecosystem for a PC gaming
Speaker 2: is too varied and too like hyper competitive and I
Speaker 2: think the reason the Steam Steam Deck works to an
Speaker 2: extent is because they're targeting lower specs for both the
Speaker 2: game and the machine, and you.
Speaker 1: Don't have that alternative to the switch until they came out,
Speaker 1: until Steam they came on and gave you the alternative
Speaker 1: to the switch. And then obviously now there's other affordable
Speaker 1: PC gaming things out there.
Speaker 2: It'll just do people go people if they buy like
Speaker 2: a Steam machine too, or from the most sort of
Speaker 2: bitching about how it doesn't have a five nine or
Speaker 2: fifteen ninety in it, or you know, is yeah loading
Speaker 2: edge of technology, or.
Speaker 1: It's not going to erase the Xbox or the PS
Speaker 1: five or even take out PCs for that matter. I
Speaker 1: think it's if it does come out and they're just
Speaker 1: going to have it be you know, the big picture
Speaker 1: mode version of the Steam Deck, where it's like literally
Speaker 1: we're just selling it on the vow on the Steam Store,
Speaker 1: and we don't plan on having this in stores at all,
Speaker 1: then I guess fine, right, because they're not spending they're
Speaker 1: not making all these deals with all these other PC
Speaker 1: companies like they were with Alienware and all that, and
Speaker 1: then Alienware cooking to sell. If it's just Valve doing
Speaker 1: it because they want to give you the alternative. I
Speaker 1: also don't think that that prohibits Xbox or if Sony
Speaker 1: wants to do it, but I don't think they will
Speaker 1: because I still do if if Sony eventually adopts the
Speaker 1: Microsoft strategy of let's be open, they're not gonna to
Speaker 1: do it for question six. They might do it for
Speaker 1: something beyond that. Uh, they're still gonna be Sony for
Speaker 1: postation sick. So let's say Xbox, that's that's the uh.
Speaker 1: To me, it's really the only push that they could
Speaker 1: possibly do that makes that console innovative is we you
Speaker 1: can literally open up any other PC store on the
Speaker 1: Xbox and play those games. That doesn't prohibit that from
Speaker 1: happening because THEMOS is already available on Lenovo. So if
Speaker 1: Microsoft offers Valve enough money, I don't think Valve is
Speaker 1: gonna say no. It also doesn't stop the Steam Deck
Speaker 1: from existing or this console or whatever. I just don't
Speaker 1: think Valve is expecting these things to sell ridiculous numbers.
Speaker 1: They're just there for people that want them, and if
Speaker 1: they just don't sell at all, I guess they just
Speaker 1: don't make them anymore. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: The valve, the steam box in the steam, the deck,
Speaker 2: but the stupid brick thing I had for like six months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly with those term controllers. Yeah, the steam Uh,
Speaker 1: just really quickly because we always have to talk about
Speaker 1: these things. Unfortunately, Iron Galaxy laid out six or six employees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame because I like Iron Galaxy. I mean,
Speaker 2: they don't make the best games always, but.
Speaker 1: They got art. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is like the marketplace is so fractured,
Speaker 2: Like there's not a place like the B tier type
Speaker 2: types of games, right exactly, like like bio mutant or
Speaker 2: you know, killer instinct that.
Speaker 1: Exists with some places, but it's like very rare, like
Speaker 1: I kind of have to they have to accept it
Speaker 1: has to be unknown, like you know, like thatless stuff, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of double a ish, but it's persona.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's summacammtens like those are beloved franchises,
Speaker 1: people a very established brand, like a Dragon as well.
Speaker 1: Like that's especially the spinoffs, like, uh, those are beloved
Speaker 1: as well. So it's like there's gonna be acceptance for them.
Speaker 1: But you try to bring in a new ip double
Speaker 1: a and it's like, unless it just really hits with people,
Speaker 1: it seems like they try to go way too far
Speaker 1: in the other direction, like the I'm gonna kill myself
Speaker 1: not killing, but I'm gonna hate myself first, constantly saying this.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned it last week. It's like the
Speaker 1: bean On Namco game that they tried to make it
Speaker 1: trans media before it even came out, and the Operation
Speaker 1: nine or whatever it is, and it it just bombed. Right.
Speaker 1: So also speaking of ban On Mco, because I want
Speaker 1: to bring this up, one hundred and seventeen nine. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Sorry, it's a memorable title, So
Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't help either. But I think we're
Speaker 1: thinking of like District nine and all that other stuff too.
Speaker 1: Ben I Namco has laid off one hundred and seventeen employees,
Speaker 1: not laid off in the same sense that we think
Speaker 1: of an American you know, when we were talking about
Speaker 1: that they did that whole thing where they stuck people
Speaker 1: in a room and they said they weren't doing that,
Speaker 1: but they were. Apparently they have lost one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventeen employees because they were doing things like that. Interesting
Speaker 1: that they were doing that when Dragon Ball Sparking zero
Speaker 1: sold five million copies, which is ridiculous for that franchise. Also,
Speaker 1: especially that version of the dragon Ball games that you
Speaker 1: know you're not a big fan of, but hey, kudos
Speaker 1: to them. Again. Helps when you have another property that
Speaker 1: is doing well in the Dragon Ball Dima and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and knowing that this is one of the
Speaker 1: few last things that Toyama himself has some kind of
Speaker 1: involvement in, because now we know that anything beyond Sparking
Speaker 1: zero and Tima, that will be other people working on
Speaker 1: those I think, which Ugi Horri did mention the Dragon
Speaker 1: Quest twelve is progressing. Uh, that probably would have been
Speaker 1: the last thing that Tama might have had some involvement in, right.
Speaker 2: Which was like the art page and was like all right,
Speaker 2: yeah that's the way.
Speaker 1: So sucks again a legend, legend of of all that media,
Speaker 1: but you know, all that has a thing together to
Speaker 1: kind of affect the sale of that game doing well.
Speaker 1: Obviously think it's a good game as well.
Speaker 2: You know, I like to say it, but that'll be
Speaker 2: like when Moto finally passes away.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about that day. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be a sad.
Speaker 2: And it won't be the same as when not no
Speaker 2: Murra but the guy the guy made to Fantasy. Oh
Speaker 2: so yeah, he's been very disforced.
Speaker 1: In that for a while. Now he came back now, right,
Speaker 1: but like you know, for twenty years. It's kind of
Speaker 1: I think if you makes that one last game that
Speaker 1: he says he wants to make one last like big
Speaker 1: RPG right in the vein of Fall Fantasy six or whatever,
Speaker 1: if he does make it and it has Square Enix
Speaker 1: published on the box or on the on the cover,
Speaker 1: I think that would change a lot of things, you know,
Speaker 1: where he kind of really did finally come full circle
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. You know. Yeah, but all right,
Speaker 1: that's that's it for the show this week. Talking about
Speaker 1: games that are coming out in the next week or so. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: coming out in this Valentine's week, you know, hopefully for
Speaker 1: all of y'all that have someone to celebrate with. If
Speaker 1: you watch the video version, you saw my girlfriend about
Speaker 1: three or four times. She's normally not here. It's just
Speaker 1: that she had my daughter. She went to pick up
Speaker 1: my daughter from school, and then she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to like bring her in
Speaker 1: and come back again. So yeah, she just stayed here. Instead,
Speaker 1: we do have said Mere Civilization seven, which will be
Speaker 1: the Biger really said Meyer, sorry, release of this uh
Speaker 1: this week coming on everything. I know you're waiting on
Speaker 1: that code. Still, hopefully you do get it so we
Speaker 1: can talk about it next week. But you know, also
Speaker 1: there's that they did have the special edition you could
Speaker 1: buy to play early, which I sawesome people that I playing.
Speaker 1: People are happy, Yeah, definitely not because it was the
Speaker 1: day that the PSN went down, so if you had
Speaker 1: it on PlayStation they can either.
Speaker 2: People are pissed.
Speaker 1: So we'll get into that, I guess once it actually
Speaker 1: releases another legacy game. Those games are still coming out.
Speaker 1: Steal In Sorcery comes out in the twelfth. Alien Rogue
Speaker 1: Incursion also releases on the thirteenth, probably twenty five if
Speaker 1: you wanted to get your Rugby fix problem with that
Speaker 1: on the thirteenth. Slam Heroes comes down on the thirteenth
Speaker 1: as well, a game I've been looking forward to, but
Speaker 1: I didn't try to go get the review code because
Speaker 1: I can't. It's just there's too many games coming out.
Speaker 1: After Love EP, which is the final game from the
Speaker 1: creator of Oh My Gosh, I can't think of the
Speaker 1: name the Coffee Coffee Talk Games because then he passed away.
Speaker 1: This is the last one, so I'm kind of been
Speaker 1: looking forward to And this one also has like a
Speaker 1: guitar hero kind of tinge a little bit to it too,
Speaker 1: has the rhythm games based gameplay when they have to
Speaker 1: do like songs and stuff like that. Also, Legend of
Speaker 1: Heroes Trails Today, Big True, which Scott Ciscott over there
Speaker 1: he's been on the show before reviewed over there for
Speaker 1: auer Haven he liked it a lot. And a tomb
Speaker 1: Raider four through six remastered also comes out on Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day as well. Sow Things. Yeah, exactly, you wanted to
Speaker 1: have that game to play with, you know, the the
Speaker 1: original one of the original girl games, right when when
Speaker 1: girl when girl gamers had to play things with only
Speaker 1: female leads or something, you know of that variety or
Speaker 1: the reason that a lot of guys played because Little
Speaker 1: Croft and all that stuff. You can go play those
Speaker 1: with your girlfriend. I guess back then, maybe after LEVP
Speaker 1: is the more the romantic one. But all right, that's
Speaker 1: it for this week's episode. Go like, subscribe, follow all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Thank you so much for watching listening whatever,
Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Everybody